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[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2957767]So my week here came to an end and while I got lucky with my Scan Model girl I stick to my original evaluation: SP is a fun place to be and it is easy to score in pretty much all price classes from say 150 Reais for half an hour at a bottom end Clinica to whatever the scan ladies can suck out of you. But I found nothing of the passionate LatAm sex I was expecting and had experienced in the past outside Brasil. Only limited kissing, mostly passive, BJs a rarity and lots of trying to get away with as little as possible. And there was little difference between Clinica's and Scandallo. Add to this the prices and the danger of being in SP I think one should be there once but for me no comparison to Thailand, China as it used to be, the Philippines etc. There are tons of girls who enjoy there job and try to please not make as much with as little effort as possible. Even in the declining German FKK scene I get regularly better service. It may sound harsh but that is my conclusion (and yes fckin a 23 year old model that is new to the job BB is fun and was just unbelievable but even there was a lot of convincement needed like I do not suck or let guys suck me. And she gets 2 k out of guys for a little HJ and 5 minutes sex). So it is unlikely I will be back as there are simply much better and cheaper options for me.
FA.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the candid assessment. I know sometimes expectations can mess up our experience, but for me Brazil has been the opposite of your observation. The only place I have "fallen in love" with a hooker, at least for a day. Did you ever use gpguia? I find intel on the forum to be extremely valuable, improving the odds of getting what I am looking for by close to 90%.
Never been to S. E. Asia, so can't compare notes, but China and Japan (especially Japan for me) are up there with the best of them.
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[QUOTE=Bearsi;2957746]Writing my report on Sao paulo from my trip last month and I've done a few 2 k 2-4 HR sessions at my place.
She actually went out with a gringo the night I met her at scan (I was trying to set up a threesome with her and the 1st girl who loved to talk that same night at my place) and she charged this guy 5 K reais to go out with him to a swing club with her for the night. Turns out buddy didn't specify anything else so when he went back home with her and was trying to fuck since he just wanted to see the swing club scene in SP, she told him it would be another 2 K since he didn't mentioned having sex at all and just talked about going to swing clubs and spending the night. Cold hearted and the guy slept with blue balls!
[/QUOTE]Mongering Ain't Eazy!
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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2957498]Vagabundo, I have met and done a handful of Japanese Brazilian girls in Scandallo, Bomboa, and the Palms clinica. (All very pricey venues.) The sex with my sample of Japanese, Brazilian girls was good, but nothing extraordinary or to write home about. So, IMHO, Sao Paulo Brazilian gals do not compare with the Japanese, Japanese girls I have met and done in Yokohama, HKG and Macau. The latter were special! Why?
1st, the body type is totally different. Japanese, Japanese girls are generally slender and very soft to the touch. Brazilian Japanese girls have bodies similar to other Brazilian girls due to the local diet and their weekly exercise routine.
2nd, Japanese, Japanese girls personality wise are unbelievably and uniquely demure in the bedroom. All punters should experience this "Geisha" style performance at least one in their sporting life. My suggestion is: go to Yokohama, enjoy the food, and the girls. Japanese, Brazilian girls have nice personalities, but their personalities are more or less the same as most other Brazilian girls.
As a result, I put no special emphasis on doing Japanese, Brazilian girls. If I spot an attractive one in Scandallo or Bomboa, I might buy her a drink and give her an interview or I might just keep looking. They are no big deal.[/QUOTE]I had picked up one as icing on the cake one night. In one of my countless sorties at Scandallo as I was heading out with my pick for the late night boa noite, saw this young maybe 20 or something Japanese girl all dolled up in that special Japanese outfit, standing at the outside bar with her friend, so as I went by asked if she wants to join us for the night? She said okay and off we went. My next trip I ran into her again this time in the afternoon at Scandallo my normal modus operandi on the day I leave. She was seriously considering moving to Australia to do a massage Job stint. I discouraged her on that but anyways she stayed with me till dropping off at the airport.
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Not subpar
[QUOTE=TheCane;2957770]Sorry you had such a subpar experience. What you describe is nothing like the Brazil I know and love. For me it's the best mongering destination in the entire world, especially if you like anal. Those little flat ass, no titties Asian girls can't compete as far as I'm concerned. I'm not trying to be provocative here, but could it have been you, and not the place? I say this because one thing I have found is that a lot of guys who are crazy about Asia don't like the Brazilian scene. It's just not for them how Asia isn't for me when it comes to mongering. But the food is good LOL![/QUOTE]Well there was no anal available too but yes the asses are absolutely great (even on my otherwise thin and barely A cup model). And yes, there are tons of super hot women, no doubt, even in the clinicas (well not tons but I always found someone to my liking). I am not saying Brasil is bad in any way. I banged 8 young, beautiful girls and had fun with only one bad experience out of 8 so that is in the current world a good ratio, given how fast P2 P is declining. The food was great too. I just describe my experiences and it might be a combination of (too?) high expectations and my much better understanding of Asian culture, where also there is much less of Latina drama girl stuff happening. I see the forum as exchanges of experiences and information not absolute truth. Not trying to impose my point of view on anyone. What I tell is how I felt. Luckily we all have different desires.
2 more things to add; is was surprised about the vaginal tightness of many girls, especially the younger ones which kind of seems not in line with the in principal fuller frames and lastly Bomboa in the afternoon is deserted, about 10 girls, not bad looking but also nothing that really stood out. Could not sample though as my model surprisingly announced she wanted to come (which then happened of course 3 hours too late LOL). Well she made up for it so there is always two sides of things!
Keep the reports flowing.
FA.
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Forget China
[QUOTE=Kib123;2957779]Thanks for the candid assessment. I know sometimes expectations can mess up our experience, but for me Brazil has been the opposite of your observation. The only place I have "fallen in love" with a hooker, at least for a day. Did you ever use gpguia? I find intel on the forum to be extremely valuable, improving the odds of getting what I am looking for by close to 90%.
Never been to S. E. Asia, so can't compare notes, but China and Japan (especially Japan for me) are up there with the best of them.[/QUOTE]China is done under current policies and Japan is extremely difficult for foreigners, especially non Japanese speaking. Yes gpguia is a very valuable resource but the ladies move around a lot and change names but it is a great source of info for the clinicas. And I am deeply in love with my Scandallo model but am actually happy I paid her to leave. And pretty sure will never see her again though there are countless of te amo WhatsApp exchanges. Find them, f. Them and forget them but keep the memories!
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No?
[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2957767]But I found nothing of the passionate LatAm sex I was expecting and had experienced in the past outside Brasil. Only limited kissing, mostly passive, BJs a rarity and lots of trying to get away with as little as possible. And there was little difference between Clinica's and Scandallo. Add to this the prices and the danger of being in SP I think one should be there once but for me no comparison to Thailand, China as it used to be, the Philippines etc. Even in the declining German FKK scene I get regularly better service. So it is unlikely I will be back as there are simply much better and cheaper options for me..[/QUOTE]Not subpar? Well it sure reads like it. If that happened to me and those were my conclusions, then no question that didn't meet satisfactory standards = subpar. The overwhelming number of posters in this thread love the place, and some have moved there. I will be heading back for a massive celebratory, blowout vacation early next year. BTW the German FKK scene has been my second favorite in the world after Brazil for a long time. Well, some love Asia. Some love Latin America. Some love both. Carry forth, and keep on fucking!
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GP-guia
In spite of speaking Portuguese I never found GP-Guia easy to use.
Generally one thing I dislike about such websites is that if a girl has been getting raving reviews, how easy do you think it will be to get hold of her? If you get hold of her, how many men will have been there before you on the same day?
Anyway, the straw that broke the camel's back was when I heard punters got discounts from girls or venues if they left good reviews in GP-Guia. Girls even complain about being put under pressure by men who threaten with bad reviews.
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Review forums
[QUOTE=XXL;2957976]In spite of speaking Portuguese I never found GP-Guia easy to use.
Generally one thing I dislike about such websites is that if a girl has been getting raving reviews, how easy do you think it will be to get hold of her? If you get hold of her, how many men will have been there before you on the same day?
Anyway, the straw that broke the camel's back was when I heard punters got discounts from girls or venues if they left good reviews in GP-Guia. Girls even complain about being put under pressure by men who threaten with bad reviews.[/QUOTE]True, but you got to read between the lines and with experience the odds improve in your favor by a lot.
Also, would you prefer a popular provider with great service or unpopular one (does not equate to low volume) with a high chance for shitty service?
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As someone who does not speak Portu, Gpguia has been quite helpful actually! With my trip down to sao paulo coming up later this month, I wanted to find the best way to go about seeing a garota. While the auto translation from google chrome hasnt been 100% accurate, it's done well enough to allow me to understand things. Not sure if maybe its because I've used forums before for reviews and such in the past, but for the most part pretty straight forward!
As kibby said, I'd rather a provider that has had a few reviews than going into it blind and getting shittier service than expected.
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Agree gp-guia forista reviews
[QUOTE=Kib123;2958002]True, but you got to read between the lines and with experience the odds improve in your favor by a lot.
Also, would you prefer a popular provider with great service or unpopular one (does not equate to low volume) with a high chance for shitty service?[/QUOTE]Agree on gp-guia for reviews.
I like gp-guia for the discounts. It's awesome to get the Forista discounts on Duplo sessions for writing a review.
Sometimes garotas or the receptionists will offer a different opinion when a guy writes about a service. There is a good one about a dude with serious bad breath, and terrible hygiene wanting to deep-french kiss gartoas. He went to a clinic in smelly gym clothes, with hygiene problems. They responded quick.
Some positive reviews have been on there for years about the same Garota, famous Karen in the prime clinic.
There are Other useful posts about the boates, blackmailers faction, privacy, pricing, wassap number & address of the clinicas, swing clubs reviews, finding that ex-prime ex-Tangara ex-miruna Garota now at different Clinica with a different name. With gp-guia, I can match Garota's name, wasssp photo, with her review to try out for threesome visits.
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2 photos
Look what the GP dragged in
This time my schedule did not match with the GP Interlagos days. I wish I could. Maybe this slim beauty is paving the main clubs these days in SP or ficha rosa lists.
Brunette, slim with curves, long straight hair, classy, beautiful face, very distinctive and discrete tattoos. Mid height but If she was taller definetely an intl. Runway model, so a solid 10, but she rather prefers to high end escort who earns every drop and penny.
These are the kind of beauties I pay R2500 zero regrets no thinking. My blessings to the one who can f**k her. A bocatto di cardinale.
The threesome BJ screenshots is aparently a video leaked by a client.
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[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2958830]This time my schedule did not match with the GP Interlagos days. I wish I could. Maybe this slim beauty is paving the main clubs these days in SP or ficha rosa lists.
Brunette, slim with curves, long straight hair, classy, beautiful face, very distinctive and discrete tattoos. Mid height but If she was taller definetely an intl. Runway model, so a solid 10, but she rather prefers to high end escort who earns every drop and penny.
These are the kind of beauties I pay R2500 zero regrets no thinking. My blessings to the one who can f**k her. A bocatto di cardinale.
The threesome BJ screenshots is aparently a video leaked by a client.[/QUOTE]Those girls look nice. My guess is the R2500 is per hour. Is it or is it per night / day?
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Yeah, for one hour+ in the club.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2958844]Those girls look nice. My guess is the R2500 is per hour. Is it or is it per night / day?[/QUOTE]
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Brasilian porno actriz
I will drop a review on gpguia to get the hour discount with the porno actriz Gih Spanic. It was $275 reais for a one-hour session with porno actriz gih spanic at 57 chanes 57 friends. Always good to see the fabulous Julie at reception. She is a doll. A national treasure.
Gih spanc does brasilian gangbang, anal videos, three way gang, double and triple anal. Her videos proliferate on all the porno sites. In person- she's short, skinny, and ready for deep anal for bros into that. Her face & body are nothing special. Her body size is exactly the same as Larhina Smalls the other moah clinica porno actriz. Though some brobknocked her up, she is 6+ months pregnant still doing clinica sessions for mofos into weirdo stuff.
I told her ass to quit smoking, drinking anbdbbanging fellas while pregnant.
The session with Gia was alright—nuthin to write home about or brag about. Unlike other Brasilian porno queens, she is a pretty average performer. She looks older in person too. Her sexy wassp photos are on Julia's daily fotos.
YMMV your experience banging brasilian porno queens for $275 reais will be different from mine. Tomite was white langerie night at 57 friends.
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57 Friends Shout Out
So Scandallo still rules for most hot girls per square meter in the world. And sooooo much fun. But for a daytime experience at value I don't think you can beat 57 Friends. Unlike most daytime options (clinicas) it's not a point and shoot atmosphere. It's a narrow bar with a pool table where you can hang out and enjoy time w the girls.
There isn't a huge crowd of girls there in the afternoon but of the 5-7 sprinkled around they are almost all slim and pretty. Fucked two really nice girls there after enjoying some beers and pool. Both were 300 R. And solid GFE in bed. Larissa was a real surprise. Really nice body when naked with a classic brasileira butt. And great skills and surprisingly tight pussy. Really enjoyed her. Carole was quite good too.
Def high recommend on 57 as long as you know going in it ain't Scandallo. But what is? It's great to go to 57 and then later to Scandallo. It's a super combo.
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Clubs
[QUOTE=Nounce;2918333]...[/QUOTE]Hey Nounce and anyone else that knows. I'm going to São Paulo in December for a couple weeks and want to squeeze in a trip to Buenos Aires.
I recall pages deep in this thread you mentioned that Buenos Aires had a couple clubs with working girls. Could you please let me know of any clubs in Buenos Aires that have some working girls?
TIA!
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[QUOTE=Tochka;2959138]It was $275 reais for a one-hour session with porno actriz gih spanic at 57 chanes 57 friends. Always good to see the fabulous Julie at reception. She is a doll. A national treasure.
Gih spanc does brasilian gangbang, anal videos, three way gang, double and triple anal. Her videos proliferate on all the porno sites. In person- she's short, skinny, and ready for deep anal for bros into that. Her face & body are nothing special. Her body size is exactly the same as Larhina Smalls the other moah clinica porno actriz. Though some brobknocked her up, she is 6+ months pregnant still doing clinica sessions for mofos into weirdo stuff.
I told her ass to quit smoking, drinking anbdbbanging fellas while pregnant.
The session with Gia was alrightnuthin to write home about or brag about. Unlike other Brasilian porno queens, she is a pretty average performer.
[/QUOTE]I remember Larinha Small while she was at Prime, had a decent session with her. The porn star who left me with permanent memories for top shelf no holds barred, high energy GFE / PSE was Ariella Ferraz, also met at Prime. She was a very consistent performer, just like the famous Karen. I love Brazil!
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Uber fraud
Not exactly on topic but still: used Uber a lot and got cheated twice paying cash. Both times the drivers just claimed they did not get paid. Uber cares shit and makes you pay twice. Sad that this is their policy. Using bank cards in Brasil is something I am sceptical about. Ironically my visa was hacked while I was in Brasil even I never used it. And guess what the fraud charges were labelled? Uber (but not Uber Brasil).
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Mostly happens when driver is delayed, you cancel and order another one. It also happened to me, so now I try to book in advance.
[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2960491]Not exactly on topic but still: used Uber a lot and got cheated twice paying cash. Both times the drivers just claimed they did not get paid. Uber cares shit and makes you pay twice. Sad that this is their policy. Using bank cards in Brasil is something I am sceptical about. Ironically my visa was hacked while I was in Brasil even I never used it. And guess what the fraud charges were labelled? Uber (but not Uber Brasil).[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=GringoTrooper1;2960188]Hey Nounce and anyone else that knows. I'm going to So Paulo in December for a couple weeks and want to squeeze in a trip to Buenos Aires.
I recall pages deep in this thread you mentioned that Buenos Aires had a couple clubs with working girls. Could you please let me know of any clubs in Buenos Aires that have some working girls?
TIA![/QUOTE]I was there about a month ago.
Delirios was closed down unfortunately.
Cocodrillo was the only club open. I had a good time there, tho Brazil is a gazillion times better!
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[QUOTE=GringoTrooper1;2960188]Hey Nounce and anyone else that knows. I'm going to So Paulo in December for a couple weeks and want to squeeze in a trip to Buenos Aires.
I recall pages deep in this thread you mentioned that Buenos Aires had a couple clubs with working girls. Could you please let me know of any clubs in Buenos Aires that have some working girls?
TIA![/QUOTE]Just like So Paulo is heaven for clubs and face-to-face buffet, Buenos Aires is heaven for Seeking. Had an absolute blast there with some real friendly and gorgeous hotties for about 100-150 USD.
I have to concur with Steve9696. Scandallo is probably the best place on earth. The luxe interiors, social vibes and the ambiance of high class debauchery in the air is really something to behold. Sushi was one of the best I've ever had. Was there earlier this month and it was absolutely heaving, due to some "transport fair". Had to wait an hour in line for a room at 4 am. Crazy to fathom the amount of money being spent here, although I think this night was an outlier.
My first time at Scandallo I saw too much of the silicon, plastic pros, however this time was a lot more GND, youthful beauties present. Even on a busy night, was quoted 1500 mostly, zero negotiation, just showed 1000 on my phone and they all agreed, so 1000 seems like the going rate. Had a threesome with two random girls I picked, they didn't even know each other, but so enthusiastic in bed and great chemistry. Got their IG's and they're both influencers types, with 80 k followers each. Crazy. Not a fan of So Paulo as a city at all, but Scandallo will definitely keep me coming back.
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[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2960491]Not exactly on topic but still: used Uber a lot and got cheated twice paying cash. Both times the drivers just claimed they did not get paid. Uber cares shit and makes you pay twice. Sad that this is their policy. Using bank cards in Brasil is something I am sceptical about. Ironically my visa was hacked while I was in Brasil even I never used it. And guess what the fraud charges were labelled? Uber (but not Uber Brasil).[/QUOTE]They claimed they did not get the cash and Uber believed them? Then I'd say one more reason to pay by card. Knowing where and how a card was hacked is difficult. From what I've read a card may get hacked unbeknownst to the business where you use the card. It's just that the business's security set-up was leaky. If you walk around with just one credit card (instead of at least 2) it is recommended to keep it wrapped in aluminium foil.
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[QUOTE=GringoTrooper1;2960188]Hey Nounce and anyone else that knows. I'm going to So Paulo in December for a couple weeks and want to squeeze in a trip to Buenos Aires.
I recall pages deep in this thread you mentioned that Buenos Aires had a couple clubs with working girls. Could you please let me know of any clubs in Buenos Aires that have some working girls?
TIA![/QUOTE]Balboa has replied. Cover is about 14 USD with one drink. Most girls will ask for 100, some will ask more. It starts late after the show on the first floor, after around 1 AM the last time I went recently. The majority are not attractive to me. There are plenty of working girls one can find all over the city so it is not really dead but it is not obvious. It probably is not worth it to fly to BA for mongering unless you just want to check it off your list.
BA is now probably the most expensive city in South America to visit after the changes made by the president this year. Airbnb is still reasonable.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2960601]They claimed they did not get the cash and Uber believed them? ..[/QUOTE]This is not uncommon for anything that is paid with cash. Even food delivery is the same. So it is important to see them complete the transaction on their app. Once I got out of the car without paying because I was used to paying by credit card. I tried to contact the driver to pay him but got no response back.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2960601]They claimed they did not get the cash and Uber believed them? Then I'd say one more reason to pay by card. Knowing where and how a card was hacked is difficult. From what I've read a card may get hacked unbeknownst to the business where you use the card. It's just that the business's security set-up was leaky. If you walk around with just one credit card (instead of at least 2) it is recommended to keep it wrapped in aluminium foil.[/QUOTE]Exactly still my trust in Uber is really down. The two card trick is actually worthwhile, there is just a slight problem with the hacked card. It had no contactless pay function.
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Nope
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2960499]Mostly happens when driver is delayed, you cancel and order another one. It also happened to me, so now I try to book in advance.[/QUOTE]Both times took the trip and paid with a tip. That is why I am so mad.
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Brasilian porno queens
[QUOTE=Kib123;2960279]I remember Larinha Small while she was at Prime, had a decent session with her. The porn star who left me with permanent memories for top shelf no holds barred, high energy GFE / PSE was Ariella Ferraz, also met at Prime. She was a very consistent performer, just like the famous Karen. I love Brazil![/QUOTE]Yeah true that porno star Ariella & Karen. Dayum! Nadia in prime is the next Karen. With Nadia, nothing is held back. It blew my mind to have two brasilian porno garotas while only paying the four-hands promotion rate plus forista discount. Luv brasil. Years ago, After a session, I went down the bucket list rabbit hole of searching and finding brasilian porno gals in clinicas and prives. Of course, the porn gals have a wassap network of other porno garotas in the business. My Brasilian girlfriend and I would privately meet them for a crazy ass threesome in motels throughout Sao Paulo.
This is how I learned to order and book the double ubers. Uber Pickups the garota, same time uber pickup me and my gal. I track everybody to arrive on fvcking time to the motel. Works like a charm.
Sheeeeeet I had to stop myself though with all the porno gals. It was getting too fvcking wild. Hey wear a mask, join in a [URL]privacy.com[/URL] or only fans session. Nah why'all go ahead.
Still, I ask the garotas in clinicas to show me the private porno videos they keep on their phones never to be published.
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Bargain locations all closed?
I arrived in SP today and am disappointed to find all my bargain sites, buildings 134,69 and 11 Santa Ifigenia shut. The first 2 are bricked up, 11 has a cement barrier in front of the entrance. There were a lot of WGs working out of those locations as recently as a year ago. Does anyone know any alternatives they may have moved to?
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You looking for street walkers? Not on my menu but I always see them near the butanta/Universidade de sao paulo area.
[QUOTE=YankeeFan;2961013]I arrived in SP today and am disappointed to find all my bargain sites, buildings 134,69 and 11 Santa Ifigenia shut. The first 2 are bricked up, 11 has a cement barrier in front of the entrance. There were a lot of WGs working out of those locations as recently as a year ago. Does anyone know any alternatives they may have moved to?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2961163]You looking for street walkers? Not on my menu but I always see them near the butanta/Universidade de sao paulo area.[/QUOTE]I stayed in Butanta and would always see tranny sw during late night ubers.
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Is it possible to manage with english
[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2960491]Not exactly on topic but still: used Uber a lot and got cheated twice paying cash. Both times the drivers just claimed they did not get paid. Uber cares shit and makes you pay twice. Sad that this is their policy. Using bank cards in Brasil is something I am sceptical about. Ironically my visa was hacked while I was in Brasil even I never used it. And guess what the fraud charges were labelled? Uber (but not Uber Brasil).[/QUOTE]Is it possible to manage with english in sao Paulo.
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[QUOTE=AjayLost;2961226]Is it possible to manage with english in sao Paulo.[/QUOTE]Yes. With google translate you will be just fine. Remember to download the offline version to your phone.
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Brazil Report Out
Just putting the finishing touches on the report for my 7 day 15 girl extravaganza spread across So Paulo and Rio. A few key takeaways for the curious.
Scandallo remains best club on planet earth. Incredibly luxe. Amazing girl selection. Band and DJs are world class. Food is even very very good. It is stunning in all respects. And you can easily get a great girl for 1000-1200 R for an hour. I promise.
57 Friends is an undiscovered gem if you don't like the clinica scene. It’s a chill bar with a pool table and onsite rooms. Yes it's tiny. Yes there are only 5-7 girls. But they are all friendly and slim and very doable. It's a great place for some daytime fun. Probably not your only activity but I hit it twice during the week before going to pricey Scandallo. Girls here are 300 R / HR. Yes. $52 usd.
Casarao remains a great late night pick. From midnight onwards. Tons of girls. Many arguably as pretty as Scandallo but just a regular bar atmosphere of mostly locals. And at 500-600 R half the price. So def a great option as your main go to if funds restricted or as the late night option after Scan.
A helicopter ride with your girl in Rio is a must do at a modest $350 usd. Stunning and she will be forever smitten.
The Caipirinha remains an amazing drink. But only in Brasil. Have elsewhere at your own peril as they suck. But in Brazil they are great. You really must have one (but they are strong so beware).
Full report upcoming. I will post in three parts as I made a sandwich of Boate time, Girlfriend time, and Boate time.
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Scandallo Pricing
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2961320]Just putting the finishing touches on the report for my 7 day 15 girl extravaganza spread across So Paulo and Rio. A few key takeaways for the curious.
Scandallo remains best club on planet earth. Incredibly luxe. Amazing girl selection. Band and DJs are world class. Food is even very very good. It is stunning in all respects. And you can easily get a great girl for 1000-1200 R for an hour. I promise.
57 Friends is an undiscovered gem if you don't like the clinica scene. Its a chill bar with a pool table and onsite rooms. Yes it's tiny. Yes there are only 5-7 girls. But they are all friendly and slim and very doable. It's a great place for some daytime fun. Probably not your only activity but I hit it twice during the week before going to pricey Scandallo. Girls here are 300 R / HR. Yes. $52 usd.
Casarao remains a great late night pick. From midnight onwards. Tons of girls. Many arguably as pretty as Scandallo but just a regular bar atmosphere of mostly locals. And at 500-600 R half the price. So def a great option as your main go to if funds restricted or as the late night option after Scan.[/QUOTE]How much were Scandallo girls asking for an hour in-house? And what were they accepting? Did you try to negotiate at all?
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Banana Cafe
I haven't gone any places yet but a regular of mine was here today. She gave me some intel that could be useful if you stay in Itaim. Banana Cafe is apparently a well-known pick-up place. My girl was adamant ALL the girls late in the day (as from dinner-time) on weekdays are on the game. The only exception is Sundays, when girls come for lunch. The Sunday lunch there is known in Portuguese as "hooker's lunch". Banana Cafe's website gives no clue whatsoever.
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First Leg of Trip - 57 Friends Scandallo Casarao
Spent the last two days (seems like a week) in São Paulo fucking like a madman. Five girls in the rearview, three of which were great, one stupendous and one which was only ok — great optics tho so still a win.
Arrived SP in the AM so took a nap to catch up on sleep and ready myself for the onslaught. Didn't really want to wait till nighttime and don't love the clinica scene so decided to try 57 Friends and meetup with a fellow forum member we'll call T.
T and I hadn't met and he's not on ISG much but a great guy and we hung out together a lot. Though only a handful of girls at 57 they were all slim and pretty. It's a totally chill vibe. It's a narrow place of two connected rooms and we notice there is a pool table in the back. So we head back there to see about a game.
There's a couple older guys playing but they quickly offer it up so T and I grab two girls to play teams. Larissa and Bia. It's the real deal snooker style table with narrow pockets and impossibly small cue tips. Very little good pool is played, but we have great fun for several hours.
After a few hours, Larissa has to go to meet a prescheduled guy and hands me over to Carol. No problem. Carol is a tiny spinner with a very pretty face. We continue on with pool for a bit but then hit the room, me with Carol and T with Bia.
Carol is great in bed. A classic complete Brasileira with passionate kissing and BBBJ. A tiny little dynamo. Details escape me at this point but a really good session. I love Brasileiras and their attitude towards kissing and sex. And 57 Friends has become a new favorite for afternoon fun.
Of course the plan for the evening is the legendary Scandallo. We arrive around 830 and there are plenty of pretty girls but of course it's light by Scandallo standards this early. We are in no hurry, having already scratched the itch.
After cruising for while we get a bottle and a table. This is def the way to roll because not only are you king of the world but it's also cheaper than having drinks 1 by 1. They will hold your bottle for up to 6 months so it won't go to waste if you are a repeat customer or with buddies. A little later, forum member Axel joins us and we have a good time getting to know each other. Great guy.
Axel and a girl quickly lock up and look like long lost lovers. So it isn't long before they adjourn to the room. But T and I take it super slow and just enjoy the vibe and the girl parade as it fills up. Just two kings of the world. The band is stunningly good.
Eventually I do take a girl. 1200/ HR. Super pretty. Little bit of a disappointment in the room as she does that fake sorta kinda a blowjob sorta with her hand. But the optics and fucking are good.
After hanging some more at Scandallo I decide to head over to Casarao which can be fun. It's def a late night club and packed body to body at 1 AM. There are a surprising number of hot girls there though I confess my beer goggles are top notch at 2 in the morning. And who doesn't love a good trifecta so let's find that third girl of the day!
It rather takes me a while but I eventually find my hottie Stephanie. And the pics the next morning don't lie. She really was hot. And she was a truly hard worker too. After two fucks earlier, I am not going to finish but that doesn't keep her from trying!
We go at it nonstop for 1. 5 hours and she literally blows me almost the whole time. We just went on and on. But no dice. Since we extended the room she has to go out in a towel and grab a guy who swipes my card for another half hour. $8. 60! Luv Casarao pricing after Scandallo. Great time and roll home at 4:30 AM.
Strangely I feel pretty rested after 5 hours sleep and will be ready to start the party again shortly. As I wasn't able to finish with the last two girls of the night I had a bit of pent up demand, so I headed to 57 Friends for a quickie.
Larissa was there and of course delighted to see me. I was hooking up again with T right after so I didn't waste time. We bought two drinks and chatted a bit but we were quickly off to the room. The rooms at 57 are modest but the baths remodeled and really clean and adequate for an hour.
Larissa is quite a nice surprise. She's a medium build black girl with long braids. But she's hiding a pretty great body under wraps. She has the perfect Brasileira ass connected to a small waist and great tits. And her BJ is on point. Really good. So much so that after 20 minutes of BJ and a couple positions I drop one in doggie in the condom which is rare. She just felt tooo good. (She is shockingly tight and had to ease onto me over a several second period — only time all week).
T and I have some Picanha and a couple chopps (what they call draft beer) at nearby Bar do Juarez. Recommend. And then it's off to the races again.
(I am writing this next part belatedly so some detail is fuzzy.).
We head to Scandallo, but T and I don't like to pick too soon. Shopping the buffet as king of the world is at least half as much fun as the sex so we make sure to savor it and not pull the trigger too quickly.
I only vaguely remember meeting Michelle. Main thing I recall is we are face to face in the club and after bit she is lightly stroking my dick between us. I love when girls do that. So bold. And it feels great. With all my girls I've been doing preview DFK in the club. If they aren't up for some passion in the club then they may not be for me. And Michelle and I have great DFK and overall chemistry.
She is absolutely wonderful in the room. It pains me to say, but with ten girls since her I have lost a bit of the detail. But I remember she was great and Axel confirmed he'the had her before and thumbs up.
Of course it's late again when I finish with Michelle and I have a flight to Rio tomorrow so I don't attempt the trifecta and roll on home in the wee hours.
Now, you might think "Damn, that was a fine trip. Really hit it hard. " All true. But that was just the first part of the three part adventure. For this trip I've created what I call the girlfriend sandwich. That is, dine at the girl buffet, then spend a few days locked up with a girlfriend, then dine at the buffet again.
And the girlfriend in the middle of this sandwich is Seeking Arrangements girl Manu who lives in Rio. Met her a year ago in Rio and had an amazing time and have since flown her to São Paulo and Barcelona. Just an amazing girl and so affectionate. The consummate GF. So it's off to Rio I go! I will post the Rio part over there and link back here.
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SP is calling.
Thanks for the report, I have not been to Sao Paulo before and this report reminds me I need to make a trip. I am more experienced in Europe with Globe as my favorite club, but now I'm thinking SP may be the right place for me. It really sounds like Scandallo is my kind of place, maybe a little like Globe but with more open-minded latinas and better food / drinks, and a more high-end environment (but also slightly lower prices for the girls).
I am wanting to take a trip between Christmas and New Years Day and I was considering trying Medellin or going back to Switzerland for Globe, but this report reminds me I need to take a trip to Brazil. I see some debate below on whether the clubs in Sao Paulo will be open, and it sounds like Scandallo is saying they'll be open but it's also likely to be a slow week in general, so Scandallo may not be as full of girls with their usual high standards. I know that Globe operates that week and I've been there during this period and had a good time, so I think this is tipping the scales for me to go to Globe this time around. It's not easy for me to go to Brazil often, so I wonder if it's a bad idea to go during that week, for my first taste of it.
Has anyone been to Globe and Sao Paulo (specifically Scandallo) during the holiday period, and has a perspective on whether it's worth taking a trip to Brazil during that last week of December, or is it better to save that for later and go with trusty Globe for that week?
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2961360]Spent the last two days (seems like a week) in So Paulo fucking like a madman. Five girls in the rearview, three of which were great, one stupendous and one which was only ok great optics tho so still a win.
Arrived SP in the AM so took a nap to catch up on sleep and ready myself for the onslaught. Didn't really want to wait till nighttime and don't love the clinica scene so decided to try 57 Friends and meetup with a fellow forum member we'll call T.
T and I hadn't met and he's not on ISG much but a great guy and we hung out together a lot. Though only a handful of girls at 57 they were all slim and pretty. It's a totally chill vibe. It's a narrow place of two connected rooms and we notice there is a pool table in the back. So we head back there to see about a game.
There's a couple older guys playing but they quickly offer it up so T and I grab two girls to play teams. Larissa and Bia. It's the real deal snooker style table with narrow pockets and impossibly small cue tips. Very little good pool is played, but we have great fun for several hours.
After a few hours, Larissa has to go to meet a prescheduled guy and hands me over to Carol. No problem. Carol is a tiny spinner with a very pretty face. We continue on with pool for a bit but then hit the room, me with Carol and T with Bia.
Carol is great in bed. A classic complete Brasileira with passionate kissing and BBBJ. A tiny little dynamo. Details escape me at this point but a really good session. I love Brasileiras and their attitude towards kissing and sex. And 57 Friends has become a new favorite for afternoon fun.
Of course the plan for the evening is the legendary Scandallo. We arrive around 830 and there are plenty of pretty girls but of course it's light by Scandallo standards this early. We are in no hurry, having already scratched the itch.
After cruising for while we get a bottle and a table. This is def the way to roll because not only are you king of the world but it's also cheaper than having drinks 1 by 1. They will hold your bottle for up to 6 months so it won't go to waste if you are a repeat customer or with buddies. A little later, forum member Axel joins us and we have a good time getting to know each other. Great guy.
Axel and a girl quickly lock up and look like long lost lovers. So it isn't long before they adjourn to the room. But T and I take it super slow and just enjoy the vibe and the girl parade as it fills up. Just two kings of the world. The band is stunningly good.
Eventually I do take a girl. 1200/ HR. Super pretty. Little bit of a disappointment in the room as she does that fake sorta kinda a blowjob sorta with her hand. But the optics and fucking are good.
After hanging some more at Scandallo I decide to head over to Casarao which can be fun. It's def a late night club and packed body to body at 1 AM. There are a surprising number of hot girls there though I confess my beer goggles are top notch at 2 in the morning. And who doesn't love a good trifecta so let's find that third girl of the day!
It rather takes me a while but I eventually find my hottie Stephanie. And the pics the next morning don't lie. She really was hot. And she was a truly hard worker too. After two fucks earlier, I am not going to finish but that doesn't keep her from trying!
We go at it nonstop for 1. 5 hours and she literally blows me almost the whole time. We just went on and on. But no dice. Since we extended the room she has to go out in a towel and grab a guy who swipes my card for another half hour. $8. 60! Luv Casarao pricing after Scandallo. Great time and roll home at 4:30 AM.
Strangely I feel pretty rested after 5 hours sleep and will be ready to start the party again shortly. As I wasn't able to finish with the last two girls of the night I had a bit of pent up demand, so I headed to 57 Friends for a quickie.
Larissa was there and of course delighted to see me. I was hooking up again with T right after so I didn't waste time. We bought two drinks and chatted a bit but we were quickly off to the room. The rooms at 57 are modest but the baths remodeled and really clean and adequate for an hour.
Larissa is quite a nice surprise. She's a medium build black girl with long braids. But she's hiding a pretty great body under wraps. She has the perfect Brasileira ass connected to a small waist and great tits. And her BJ is on point. Really good. So much so that after 20 minutes of BJ and a couple positions I drop one in doggie in the condom which is rare. She just felt tooo good. (She is shockingly tight and had to ease onto me over a several second period only time all week).
T and I have some Picanha and a couple chopps (what they call draft beer) at nearby Bar do Juarez. Recommend. And then it's off to the races again.
(I am writing this next part belatedly so some detail is fuzzy.).
We head to Scandallo, but T and I don't like to pick too soon. Shopping the buffet as king of the world is at least half as much fun as the sex so we make sure to savor it and not pull the trigger too quickly.
I only vaguely remember meeting Michelle. Main thing I recall is we are face to face in the club and after bit she is lightly stroking my dick between us. I love when girls do that. So bold. And it feels great. With all my girls I've been doing preview DFK in the club. If they aren't up for some passion in the club then they may not be for me. And Michelle and I have great DFK and overall chemistry.
She is absolutely wonderful in the room. It pains me to say, but with ten girls since her I have lost a bit of the detail. But I remember she was great and Axel confirmed he'the had her before and thumbs up.
Of course it's late again when I finish with Michelle and I have a flight to Rio tomorrow so I don't attempt the trifecta and roll on home in the wee hours.
Now, you might think "Damn, that was a fine trip. Really hit it hard. " All true. But that was just the first part of the three part adventure. For this trip I've created what I call the girlfriend sandwich. That is, dine at the girl buffet, then spend a few days locked up with a girlfriend, then dine at the buffet again.
And the girlfriend in the middle of this sandwich is Seeking Arrangements girl Manu who lives in Rio. Met her a year ago in Rio and had an amazing time and have since flown her to So Paulo and Barcelona. Just an amazing girl and so affectionate. The consummate GF. So it's off to Rio I go! I will post the Rio part over there and link back here.[/QUOTE]
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Similar Experience
[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2957002]Made it today and have mixed feelings.
All in all I was not overwhelmed by the girl quality. Lots of silicon, revealing or almost no clothes and too much make up and a few real stunners. But the majority was not that different from the clinic girls I saw. Just better dressed and made up. But comparing the 200 versus the minimum 1300 in cost there is no real argument why one should go there. Especially if there is such a high risk for terrible performance and you have no possibility to launch a complaint.
A little bit like the good old Maggies when it was blooming: overhyped but too much average but the prices were 100 bucks. For the whole night. Brix is way better in looks and service wise even OT beats Scandallo by a huge margin.
So far I had a good time in Brasil but honestly I do nOt understand where the hype comes from. Brazilian passion? Nowhere to be found so far. And really expensive. WIR? Unlikely for both Scandallo and Brazil. Not worth it for me.[/QUOTE]Sorry I don't check the forum frequently so I missed your initial question, but it seems we had a similar experience. Must have been a terrible week at Scandalo because I also failed to see what everyone raves about it. I had a much more fun threesome with 2 cuties at Casarao for 800 BRL total and an extra $19 USD for a room. I recommend everyone save their money and go there. I think we are all experienced enough to know that an expensive session will not automatically mean good service.
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Comparing Globe and Scandallo
[QUOTE=NF4591;2961379]Thanks for the report, I have not been to Sao Paulo before and this report reminds me I need to make a trip. I am more experienced in Europe with Globe as my favorite club, but now I'm thinking SP may be the right place for me. It really sounds like Scandallo is my kind of place, maybe a little like Globe but with more open-minded latinas and better food / drinks, and a more high-end environment (but also slightly lower prices for the girls).
I am wanting to take a trip between Christmas and New Years Day and I was considering trying Medellin or going back to Switzerland for Globe, but this report reminds me I need to take a trip to Brazil. I see some debate below on whether the clubs in Sao Paulo will be open, and it sounds like Scandallo is saying they'll be open but it's also likely to be a slow week in general, so Scandallo may not be as full of girls with their usual high standards. I know that Globe operates that week and I've been there during this period and had a good time, so I think this is tipping the scales for me to go to Globe this time around. It's not easy for me to go to Brazil often, so I wonder if it's a bad idea to go during that week, for my first taste of it.
Has anyone been to Globe and Sao Paulo (specifically Scandallo) during the holiday period, and has a perspective on whether it's worth taking a trip to Brazil during that last week of December, or is it better to save that for later and go with trusty Globe for that week?[/QUOTE]I can't speak to the holidays timing issue but I can definitely add value comparing the two. They are probably my two favorite clubs in the world but for completely different reasons. They are really nothing alike.
Of course Globe is an FKK and a nice mid range in terms of facilities. The girls are generally pretty but often a bit overdone. The main thing to love about Globe is guaranteed good service. There is no other place I know on the planet where the service is 100% going to be good no matter who you pick. But for facilities and number of girls and overall experience quality is is far below Scandallo as is everywhere else worldwide IMO.
First imagine the nicest night club you have ever been to. With ann amazing live cover band or top DJ. And a top fine dining restaurant. And a beautiful bar and patio environment. Add all that together and throw in two hundred girls. Not 50 like Globe says it has. Not 10-15 like are possibly available at any one time like Globe. But 200 gorgeous girls all packed in and looking for love.
Def go to Globe if the best sexual experience is your sole goal. But if you want to feel for one or more nights like the king of the world with 200+ hot girls in a luxe environment, there is no other. Like Scandallo.
As to the other posters mentioning Casarao, there is nothing wrong with that and far better bang for the buck. I highly recommend BOTH. One is the nicest with the widest girl selection. The other is perfectly fine and much cheaper and u are bound to find a gem. I would say on balance its true Casarao is much better bang for ur buck. But if u have the coin, the atmosphere at Scandallo is second to none IMO.
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Sugar Site Prices
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2957543]Howdy everyone,
1) generally what's the price range of girls on seeking.
[/QUOTE]Ranges from 500-1,000 Brazilian Reales. I averaged about 700 BRL per date. Beware, they will rinse you for dinner and other things.
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Comparing Globe and Scandallo
[QUOTE=NF4591;2961379]Thanks for the report, I have not been to Sao Paulo before and this report reminds me I need to make a trip. I am more experienced in Europe with Globe as my favorite club, but now I'm thinking SP may be the right place for me. It really sounds like Scandallo is my kind of place, maybe a little like Globe but with more open-minded latinas and better food / drinks, and a more high-end environment (but also slightly lower prices for the girls).
I am wanting to take a trip between Christmas and New Years Day and I was considering trying Medellin or going back to Switzerland for Globe, but this report reminds me I need to take a trip to Brazil. I see some debate below on whether the clubs in Sao Paulo will be open, and it sounds like Scandallo is saying they'll be open but it's also likely to be a slow week in general, so Scandallo may not be as full of girls with their usual high standards. I know that Globe operates that week and I've been there during this period and had a good time, so I think this is tipping the scales for me to go to Globe this time around. It's not easy for me to go to Brazil often, so I wonder if it's a bad idea to go during that week, for my first taste of it.
Has anyone been to Globe and Sao Paulo (specifically Scandallo) during the holiday period, and has a perspective on whether it's worth taking a trip to Brazil during that last week of December, or is it better to save that for later and go with trusty Globe for that week?[/QUOTE]I can't speak to the holidays timing issue but I can definitely add value comparing the two. They are probably my two favorite clubs in the world but for completely different reasons. They are really nothing alike.
Of course Globe is an FKK and a nice mid range in terms of facilities. The girls are generally pretty but often a bit overdone. The main thing to love about Globe is guaranteed good service. There is no other place I know on the planet where the service is 100% going to be good no matter who you pick. But for facilities and number of girls and overall experience quality is is far below Scandallo — as is everywhere else worldwide IMO.
First imagine the nicest night club you have ever been to. With ann amazing live cover band or top DJ. And a top fine dining restaurant. And a beautiful bar and patio environment. Add all that together and throw in two hundred girls. Not 50 like Globe says it has. Not 10-15 like are possibly available at any one time like Globe. But 200 gorgeous girls all packed in and looking for love.
Def go to Globe if the best sexual experience is your sole goal. But if you want to feel for one or more nights like the king of the world with 200+ hot girls in a luxe environment, there is no other.
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Credit Card Apps
[QUOTE=XXL;2960601]They claimed they did not get the cash and Uber believed them? Then I'd say one more reason to pay by card. Knowing where and how a card was hacked is difficult. From what I've read a card may get hacked unbeknownst to the business where you use the card. It's just that the business's security set-up was leaky. If you walk around with just one credit card (instead of at least 2) it is recommended to keep it wrapped in aluminium foil.[/QUOTE]There is an application Brazilians have called Infinite Pay, may be available in the US too, and it allows people to just tap the card on their phone and charge you pretty quickly. Be wary of this and your belongings and turn on push notifications on your phone so you see transactions in real time.
I recommend paying for everything with credit cards and carrying them around as it is much more likely to not be held responsible for fraudulent transactions as opposed to your debit cards in the event you're pick pocketed, scanned, or robbed.
My friend had a girl over and she swiped some of our things while I wasn't home and this happened where she just paid herself with the app. Back to back charges in real time. Crazy shit.
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1000 to 1200
[QUOTE=TheCane;2961330]How much were Scandallo girls asking for an hour in-house? And what were they accepting? Did you try to negotiate at all?[/QUOTE]He wrote 1000 to 1200 and that is what most girls will accept these days.
FA.
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Brasilian Garota's not in Brazil
The mystery continues. In Europe at the moment and at a rather mediocre Czech brothel met the most gorgeous Brazilian I have seen in ages. 100 Euro for an hour of full GFE fun (there was an extra charge for CBJ but that is the norm there).
So why can I not get that in São Paulo?
Sigh.
FA.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2961320]Just putting the finishing touches on the report for my 7 day 15 girl extravaganza spread across So Paulo and Rio. A few key takeaways for the curious.
Scandallo remains best club on planet earth. Incredibly luxe. Amazing girl selection. Band and DJs are world class. Food is even very very good. It is stunning in all respects. And you can easily get a great girl for 1000-1200 R for an hour. I promise.
57 Friends is an undiscovered gem if you don't like the clinica scene. Its a chill bar with a pool table and onsite rooms. Yes it's tiny. Yes there are only 5-7 girls. But they are all friendly and slim and very doable. It's a great place for some daytime fun. Probably not your only activity but I hit it twice during the week before going to pricey Scandallo. Girls here are 300 R / HR. Yes. $52 usd.
Casarao remains a great late night pick. From midnight onwards. Tons of girls. Many arguably as pretty as Scandallo but just a regular bar atmosphere of mostly locals. And at 500-600 R half the price. So def a great option as your main go to if funds restricted or as the late night option after Scan.
A helicopter ride with your girl in Rio is a must do at a modest $350 usd. Stunning and she will be forever smitten.
The Caipirinha remains an amazing drink. But only in Brasil. Have elsewhere at your own peril as they suck. But in Brazil they are great. You really must have one (but they are strong so beware).
Full report upcoming. I will post in three parts as I made a sandwich of Boate time, Girlfriend time, and Boate time.[/QUOTE]Helicopter ride sounds awesome. Respect your style Steve. How long is the ride? Think you could "party" on the ride without the pilot noticing? Rio is on my list after my SP trip this December.
Also anyone have any experience renting a limo in Sao Paulo? From what I understand Scandallo is like 30 minutes from my hotel near the Ibeapuera Park, was thinking of maybe taking a girl out of Scandallo one night and having a limo take us back and obviously engaging in debacherous behavior in the limo.
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Just sharing my opinion. Better not reading if you don't want to get upset.
Since Altobomgosto left us I never spent more than one minute updating on the Sao Paulo thread. To me it seems like reading a thread from another country. All these short-time travellerers spending big money telling how they got fantastic sex and BBBJ from a girl at Scandallo at a cost of 1-2 months salaries. I don't mind as every one spending their money as they want. On the opposite, lets put all the big spenders, who save up for their short holiday, in one place without ruining the game for other mongers.
I understand these newbies big spenders way of thinking. They pay an absurd amount of money and think they get the best quality. However when buying pussy in Brazil, price isn't equal to quality. That's awful to hear, isn't it? Spending all that absurd money and listen to somebody telling that they are throwing away their money. Not to forget, the few photos of Scandallo girls that have been posted are nothing remarkable.
My remarks has nothing to do with budgets. Most of us could spend big box on pussy, but I would feel like an *diot paying 2 months salaries just to stick my dick in a p*ssy.
I do enjoy go clubbing in high-end clubs, but not with h**ckers. To me it's like dressings pigs in nice clothes imaging I'm getting laid because of my big charm.
Whatever, to each their own. Have fun!
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Sorry!
[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2961422]He wrote 1000 to 1200 and that is what most girls will accept these days.
FA.[/QUOTE]Yes he did. I'm busy as hell at the moment and only glanced quickly at his report. That pricing matches up with what I would consider fair. A fair price for a good fuck!
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[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2961424]The mystery continues. In Europe at the moment and at a rather mediocre Czech brothel met the most gorgeous Brazilian I have seen in ages. 100 Euro for an hour of full GFE fun (there was an extra charge for CBJ but that is the norm there).
So why can I not get that in So Paulo?
Sigh.
FA.[/QUOTE]If money is the issue and you have to be in Sampa then search your beauties in places where regular Brazilians go. There are thousands of providers and dozens of places where to look for them.
Since money is the issue for the vast majority of BM here one way or the other, then my suggestion is to be in Rio. Rio is the second agglomeration by GDP in Brazil. Economic research and my experience prove that on the price / value / availability this second area by GDP in each country in many cases is the best choice for this hobby.
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Return to São Paulo — Three More Nights
See Rio thread for the Girlfriend part of the sandwich with Manu. And quite an improvised bonus night at 4 x4 and other clubs.
But now it's back to So Paulo for the other half of the buffet. Going to be a strict diet of Scandallo and Casarao for me. By now I've connected w some other ISG guys and it's a larger crew, mixed with their regulars and new girls we are finding.
Back at Scandallo, Brenda chats me up on the patio and she's vivacious and slim and darker like I prefer. After some good chat we hit the room and have a good time. By now my bar is so high that if it's not exceptional I don't remember it. She was very good and a nice girl but others have stood out more. No regrets.
In case you haven't noticed I like to take two or three girls a night. So it's back out into the crush to find my next love. Of course I do a lot of buffet shopping but eventually settle on a model tall and pretty girl who becomes my Boate wife a bit for a couple nights.
Her name is Lua and she is super lean and fit doing ballet. And a truly nice girl. We do very well in the room together. Very passionate and romantic. I will also give her extra credit for dancing with me. I dance like a fool when lit and she joins me right in front of the stage and we have a grand time.
Next night, Lua and I want to have dinner together. Honestly logistically it's easiest to just do that there at the club and the food is excellent. It's a lovely time and the salmon is some of the best I've had in years. As can be a problem when you know multiple girls there, Maria from earlier this year is eye fucking me while I have dinner with Lua. Hahaha. Oh well another time.
Tonight one of the guys has booked an upstairs booth so we can relax above the crush but still be a part of it. My girl Lua joins me and it's nice and casual to just be partying without any pressure. But to be honest she feels more like a buddy tonight where last night we would passionately make out in the club and tonight it's just pecks. I've learned over time to deal with this type of thing head on so I do.
I key into the translator that it seems our chemistry is gone and she is not romantic with me and should we find other partners. Well that does the trick because she keys in that she wants to be with me and plants some passionate DFK on me. We have great tongue chemistry and her kisses are wonderful.
Shortly, we are at the rail overlooking the action and I am crushed up against her, dick growing hard, with hands roaming. As it should be! She keys in "Do you want to fuck now or in a little bit". Well that is hard to say no to. And she adds "I want to cum twice". Ok Sexy's back on!
In the room it's another great time (and she does cum twice!) but as much as I like her, there is a rotating buffet of hotties and I don't really want to skip that. So as we are leaving the room, I am a bit direct again and say that I know she is working and it's ok if she wants to roam and I will do the same. I feel a bit bad but heck it's the best girl buffet in the world. I find it very hard to get locked up with only one.
So I roam a bit more but run into her again. It's nice to see her and she is enjoying the DJ so much. Just totally in the moment so I join in and we really do have fun. Epic show.
I want to find another girl but Lua and I were quite close so it feels a bit awkward. So why not bounce over to Casarao with one of the crew as a wing. Casarao is packed as usual at 2 and towards the front I find myself next to two cuties who are def working as a team. Priscilla, the experienced one, positions on my right and Sabrina, just barely 20, with braces, on my left. It's Sabrina's first day and honestly it is so endearing.
Priscilla drives the negotiation and I am honestly quite wary because duos are bi polar. Awesome or suck. We agree 500 each girl and I am quite clear on expectations and off we go. We have to wait like 20 minutes for a room which is not uncommon this time of night. But then it's on and it's spectacular. They deliver the true dupla. Both girls on BJ at the same time. One on balls the other shaft. Or side by side in a coordinated BJ sandwich. Sooo good. And when it's not that, one is BJ and other is DFK. Just mind blowing when a dupla is done right.
In the course of the session I fuck them both, with a condom change in between. Honestly fucking the little bird Sabrina in mish is heavenly. Most girls close their eyes. But she is full on liquid chocolate eye contact throughout. Loooove that. Almost blow a load it's so great but don't.
To finish I put them side by side masturbating. And Jack off on my knees. I feel a little bad because Priscilla is working hard but my eyes are 100% on Sabrina. She's got what Bluemoon and I call God Pussy. Like a work of art. And she's working it hard. It's so amazing I bless her with a load on the sheets. Ahhhh. Great session.
So now it's the final day and at this point you are surely thinking. Jesus what is wrong with this man? Has he not fucked enough? Well yes. Any man should be satisfied with 13 girls in the rearview, including two trifectas and a rare quad. And indeed I am beyond satisfied. But I am also an opportunist and I can't just leave hot girls unfucked as they await me mere miles away!
So I am again meeting up with the guys tonight at Scandallo. But damn I am totally smitten with Sabrina. So after I wake around 11 I text her and see if she will have lunch with me. She responds right away and it's on!
We go to a nice Italian place nearby. And then back to the room. She's worn her slutty Boate dress and heels and looks absolutely amazing. Lunch is a tad awkward as 20 year olds are not known to be conversationalists and of course she knows no english. We make do with my Porto and bounce to the hotel.
(Side note. Mercure hotels all seem to just ignore you when you bring girls. Because this is clearly a paid girl, based on how she's dressed, and there are three crew at the desk and no one even glances over. Same at all Mercures I've been to).
She's a little shy and quite light kisses at first. But once we get to grinding and some tits work she comes alive and eats my face. She's got a hot little body and god pussy. I spend prob 20 minutes on DATY and get lots of shivers and coos and one time think I was nearly there as she starts to squirm quite a lot; but damn couldn't quite rock her world. Def tried.
Then it's onto BJ and fucking and the usual. Fucking in mish is absolutely wonderful with her and the eye contact. But no dice shooting a load in mish with the condom. Eventually on my back with her attentively on balls I shoot out a really nice shot. And she's just a sweet girl. We had a truly nice and caring date and I send her on her way.
The crew is having a big fiesta at Scandallo tonight so that will be my last hurrah. I will likely only fuck one girl as I am just about fucked out. So I hang with the guys for quite a bit but then T and I go on patrol.
In the restaurant the girls often line up against the servers bar on the right as you come in. There aren't many there so T and I co-opt it and this is the perfect place to watch girls parade in. I've clearly seen 100+ girls so far tonight but all of a sudden one lights me up that total fireworks thing. Damn. In love from minute 1.
She takes a table with a friend and we wait a bit but I don't want to move on and lose her so I go over and introduce myself. She's gorgeous in person and bubbly and she is glad I've sought her out. Her name is Nathal I and she is 100% my dream girl. We agree she will come find me in a bit so me and T return to the booth we have with the other guys in the club area.
One of the guys has a little Japa hottie he's been shacking up with and her friend Sarah is with her. They make some space for me to sit next to Sarah and it's clear she has designs on me or my wallet or both.
We honestly have the best time. She has pretty good English, a banging body and just a hair off my type. As we chat away Nathali, from the restaurant, shows at the edge of the booth and casually eye fucks me. Damn I want that girl bad; but here I am locked up with Sarah who is super sweet and def running her game.
It would be rude to ditch Sarah particularly given her full court press. Because shortly we are making out. And when just chatting she is casually rubbing my dick. I mean like constantly for a half hour. And Nathali keeps coming over and positioning and eye fucking me a bit. She's def still interested.
Eventually I take Sarah to the room and it's really good. She reminds me of Manu. Very girlfriendy. You feel like a million bucks with her so no regrets. And we BJ and fuck forever but yep the old soldier is fading. We call it at the 52 minute mark and shower up. Oh well. Was a great time and really enjoyed her.
As we are leaving the room I pop a precautionary Cialis 10 as I hadn't today and started flagging with Sarah. You just never know what might come your way!
I head back to the booth but it's deserted with the guys all in rooms or already taken a girl to their hotel. It's maybe midnight or 12:30. I hang for a bit to see if Sarah is coming back and guess who shows up a minute later. Nathali! Omfg that girl is fire! I don't want to run into Sarah so I take Nathali by the hand and go to the patio (unfortunately going right past Sarah on the way!
On the patio I confirm she is my dream girl. The chemistry is amazing. Her eyes glisten as she looks deeply into mine. He smile comes easily and is dazzling. And then of course DFK to die for. And I discover her tits are clearly gorgeous Dee cup. Finest of the trip. T had called this from afar when I first pointed her out, but I was so enamored with her face I didn't notice till now. Def my girl 💯.
Up in the room she does not disappoint. She sheds her clothes quickly and is on the bed dancing naked before I've undone a button. Then she's in Quattro with her ass facing me. Twerking her pussy at me. This girl is a fucking wildcat!
It really doesn't slow down from there. Normally I am a take it slow GFE guy but Nathali is delivering rockstar PSE and who am I to complain. It's sweaty aggressive sex and kissing and maybe that is what I needed. Because maybe only 20 minutes in I blow a load. Fucking magician. And a stunner to me. Dream girl.
And so it's Nathali that closes out the trip with a bang. 15 girls including 14 new. Repeated with 3 of them (Manu, Lua, Sabrina). Three trifectas and one quad.
Recommend 57 Friends for easygoing daytime fun alternative to the clinicas. Scandallo rules of course but at a price. And Casarao the late-night middle ground. Three very different places that all deliver in their own way. And of course Manu delivering the true and complete GFE in an overnight and activities way. Just a top notch trip!
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1x 2x 4x
[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2961422]He wrote 1000 to 1200 and that is what most girls will accept these days.
FA.[/QUOTE]It's like they have figured out the perfect price discrimination system. Economists would be proud.
57 Friends 300 = 1X.
Casarao 600 = 2X.
Scandallo 1200 = 4X.
Of course there is a bit of play upward or downward at Scan and Cas. But it's nominally as above.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2961483]See Rio thread for the Girlfriend part of the sandwich with Manu. And quite an improvised bonus night at 4 x4 and other clubs.
But now it's back to So Paulo for the other half of the buffet. Going to be a strict diet of Scandallo and Casarao for me. By now I've connected w some other ISG guys and it's a larger crew, mixed with their regulars and new girls we are finding.[/QUOTE]Good reports, looks like you had a great time. Look forward to your next adventures.
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Upset?
[QUOTE=Sperto;2961455]Just sharing my opinion. Better not reading if you don't want to get upset.
Since Altobomgosto left us I never spent more than one minute updating on the Sao Paulo thread. To me it seems like reading a thread from another country. All these short-time travellerers spending big money telling how they got fantastic sex and BBBJ from a girl at Scandallo at a cost of 1-2 months salaries. I don't mind as every one spending their money as they want. On the opposite, lets put all the big spenders, who save up for their short holiday, in one place without ruining the game for other mongers.
I understand these newbies big spenders way of thinking. They pay an absurd amount of money and think they get the best quality. However when buying pussy in Brazil, price isn't equal to quality. That's awful to hear, isn't it? Spending all that absurd money and listen to somebody telling that they are throwing away their money. Not to forget, the few photos of Scandallo girls that have been posted are nothing remarkable.
My remarks has nothing to do with budgets. Most of us could spend big box on pussy, but I would feel like an *diot paying 2 months salaries just to stick my dick in a p*ssy.
I do enjoy go clubbing in high-end clubs, but not with h**ckers. To me it's like dressings pigs in nice clothes imaging I'm getting laid because of my big charm.
Whatever, to each their own. Have fun![/QUOTE]The only one here who seems to be upset is you. You say "to each is own" only after harshly criticizing those mongers who enjoy luxe environments. You call them "newbies" even though many of them have been mongering and posting for years. There was a time when Altobomgosto was the only one who was posting in this thread. It's 1,000 times better now. Why? Because back then we were getting only one guy's opinions on Sao Paulo. One guy's biased opinions! He would always say you were overpaying if you went to the nightclubs because the girls in the clinicas looked as good. If they did then the clinicas would be first choice, but to me and many others they don't. He talked up the clinicas. Well, I went to the clinicas and was a little disappointed as the girls absolutely did not look as good. Saw one girl so fat she literally had to turn sideways to get through the door! I went to one clinica he described as nice, but I thought it was kind of dumpy. One man. One (biased) opinion!
And what do you mean two months pay? If you go to Scandallo and pay a girl 1,200 reals that's like around $200. How is that two months pay? You have to also pay for the room but adding that in still doesn't amount to two months pay. You have the consumable charge, but that isn't paid to stick your dick in some pussy. It's paid to enjoy the food and drink offered by the establishment in a luxe environment, sometimes with a live band. People who go to a place like a Scandallo (and the other nightclubs) aren't just a bunch of "overpaying newbies". They are people who have tastes different from your own, and the budgets to satisfy said tastes. If you really believed in "to each his own" then you would save your harsh criticisms and do more "live and let live". Altobomgosto's cherished clinicas have their place. The price is right, and you can find some cuties. But they're in a different kind of league. I call it the "day league", and it's certainly worth playing in. But so is the "night league" if you have the coin and the inclination.
In short, it's a good idea to play in both leagues if you can time and money wise. We should stop criticizing and condemning others for their decisions on this and how they choose to spend their own money. Focus on you and what makes you happy versus on somebody else and what makes you unhappy. This thread is so much better and far more useful than it used to be when Altobomgosto was posting because we have the benefit of many more views and opinions. Budget mongers and big spenders. The notion that somebody is "ruining the market" is bullshit! Especially in a place like Brazil where there are so many markets to operate in. I honestly say to each his own. And keep on mongering!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2961580]Well, I went to the clinicas...[/QUOTE]Sorry for making you upset. BTW, it might be time for you to travel to Brazil again to calm down. Can you tell how many years since you last came here?
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2961580]The only one here who seems to be upset is you. You say "to each is own" only after harshly criticizing those mongers who enjoy luxe environments. You call them "newbies" even though many of them have been mongering and posting for years. There was a time when Altobomgosto was the only one who was posting in this thread. It's 1,000 times better now. Why? Because back then we were getting only one guy's opinions on Sao Paulo. One guy's biased opinions! He would always say you were overpaying if you went to the nightclubs because the girls in the clinicas looked as good. If they did then the clinicas would be first choice, but to me and many others they don't. He talked up the clinicas. Well, I went to the clinicas and was a little disappointed as the girls absolutely did not look as good. Saw one girl so fat she literally had to turn sideways to get through the door! I went to one clinica he described as nice, but I thought it was kind of dumpy. One man. One (biased) opinion![/QUOTE]Some people seem to forget that Altobomgosto's made his money taking guys on clinica tours. This was where ABG could be a big, big help to newbies or guys who just liked it laid out for them. He might have also had some deal with specific clinicas.
If I remember correctly, ABG was a paid sponsor so the moderators allowed him leeway as basically a clinica spokesperson. It wasn't a big deal if you picked up on his bias. One time he got a bit aggressive arguing for the clinicas. I'm fairly certain the mod told him to dial it down.
This walk down recent memory lane has a relevant point. New members should take in a lot of opinions when deciding their itineraries. Some experienced members will be very helpful and engage with your style of travel.
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People should just accept that there are high rollers who visit P4P establishments. The mongering world does not discriminate and is available for all adult men who want to participate.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2961580]The only one here who seems to be upset is you. You say "to each is own" only after harshly criticizing those mongers who enjoy luxe environments. You call them "newbies" even though many of them have been mongering and posting for years. There was a time when Altobomgosto was the only one who was posting in this thread. It's 1,000 times better now. Why? Because back then we were getting only one guy's opinions on Sao Paulo. One guy's biased opinions! He would always say you were overpaying if you went to the nightclubs because the girls in the clinicas looked as good. If they did then the clinicas would be first choice, but to me and many others they don't. He talked up the clinicas. Well, I went to the clinicas and was a little disappointed as the girls absolutely did not look as good. Saw one girl so fat she literally had to turn sideways to get through the door! I went to one clinica he described as nice, but I thought it was kind of dumpy. One man. One (biased) opinion!
In short, it's a good idea to play in both leagues if you can time and money wise. We should stop criticizing and condemning others for their decisions on this and how they choose to spend their own money. Focus on you and what makes you happy versus on somebody else and what makes you unhappy. This thread is so much better and far more useful than it used to be when Altobomgosto was posting because we have the benefit of many more views and opinions. Budget mongers and big spenders. The notion that somebody is "ruining the market" is bullshit! Especially in a place like Brazil where there are so many markets to operate in. I honestly say to each his own. And keep on mongering![/QUOTE]I'm assuming that Sperto lives in or spends a large portion of the year in Brasil. It's a completely different dynamic for someone like him that has lots of time on the ground. They are going to make connections with women that the typical hobbyist can't. They likely will have no need to spend a lot of money at spots like Scandallo because they already know tons of attractive local women.
But for the guy who is in town for a week or two a year, the convenience/quality of experience at Scandallo, Casarao, Bomboa et al is hard to beat. As are the Clinicas during the day.
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Muddy Waters
[QUOTE=Sperto;2961626]Sorry for making you upset. BTW, it might be time for you to travel to Brazil again to calm down. Can you tell how many years since you last came here?[/QUOTE]I'm not upset. I'm just telling it like it is. And you're so predictable. By the way you yourself have had long bouts when you weren't in Brazil. But I guess that's OK if it's you? I have had a very busy and diverse travel schedule. Fifty countries on 5 continents. People should have learned by now not to underestimate me. I have big stuff coming. Big! I'll let my actions speak for themselves. Watch and wait and see.
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Scandallo negotiation
Don't wait for the girl to give you the price because we know she is likely going to try to scam you first. Instead, offer them 600 to scam them first, and act surprised when they counter with a significantly higher price. Then, settle on a price around 800. You can also mention that you paid 600 last time you visited the club. LOL. Remember, you can always turn a direct negotiation into an indirect one and make it not like a negation. This strategy and numbers worked last week, but I only have one sample. Haha. Having said that, my approach is inspired by another Scandallo regular who posted that he just made an offer of 750 and let every girls know. Sorry that I forgot his name but it is not hard to look him up here.
Scandallo has a premium and it is not dependent on girls. When I went to clubs in other states, the girls that have been to Scandallo are more likely to quote higher price than the much better looking girls at the same club because she has a stereotype of Scandallo customers.
However, don't let the higher price quoted here to condition you to be used to the higher price. If you do, the price will only go even higher faster. LOL. That's the key. You don't have to strictly follow the 600 and 800 numbers mentioned in my post. Adjust the price to whatever you're comfortable with. If it's someone you absolutely must have, ensure they provide everything you desire and go for it. LOL.
Some Scandallo customers have a different calculation. The are ones that travel is supported by business expense. You need to read between the lines and see if your situation aligns with theirs. Then there are some that make 400 K+ annually, they are going to have more disposable income after 6 trips a year then those with 200 K income. Know your limit and spend wisely.
If you value your money, then what you can do is visit the lower price places first to know the merchandise. When you are at Scandallo, take only those that you can't buy elsewhere. Haha.
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[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2961163]You looking for street walkers? Not on my menu but I always see them near the butanta/Universidade de sao paulo area.[/QUOTE]He is talking about the walk up buildings that is around 40 R a session.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2961722]By the way you yourself have had long bouts when you weren't in Brazil. Fifty countries on 5 continents.[/QUOTE]I didn't know I had long bouts when I wasn't in Brazil. Except for 2021 I went every year since 1991. No need for bragging about many countries. Most europeans have travelled all over Europe in their late teens and also in Southeast Asia as well. The question remains, which you did avoid, how many years since you've been to Brazil?
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Bragging?
[QUOTE=Sperto;2961792]I didn't know I had long bouts when I wasn't in Brazil. Except for 2021 I went every year since 1991. No need for bragging about many countries. Most europeans have travelled all over Europe in their late teens and also in Southeast Asia as well. The question remains, which you did avoid, how many years since you've been to Brazil?[/QUOTE]I have not avoided anything. I don't answer to you. Where and when I go someplace is none of your business. And talk about a braggadocio LOL! I'm just speaking facts. And once again there you are now complaining in another thread about how it used to be hahaha! If you don't like people's reports then stop reading them. And if you don't like how Brazil is now then don't go. Just don't ruin the threads talking about stuff people today don't care about. You should save it!
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Another fabulous trip for the books. Arrived on Tuesday and left the next Monday — the most time I have spent in SP with an awesome group of ISG brothers — Lalabo, SocratesNY, Steve9696, T (see Steve9696 posts), Michael lSamuel and was hoping to run into Axel Heyst but we just never saw each other. It was a great time had by all and I enjoyed the week fully. It is good to be a part of friends who think alike and enjoy like activities. It gets harder as we get older to find such brothers so these get togethers mean so much.
Every night was at Scandello which covered all the bases for everyone in the group. A great place to eat, drink, fuck and have a great time overall. I finally did get around to trying a clinica and Casarao.
I went to 57 Friends one afternoon to just shoot my first load so my next ones take longer. On a pure cost basis. If I need to waste one, this is the way to do it. I am not a clinica type of person so it was just in and out for me.
Casarao — I can see the draw. Entry is cheap, drinks are cheap and the girls are cheaper than Scandello. Are the girls Scandello quality — fuck no! But that was on a Sunday night. Maybe on my next trip, I might explore it on a Thursday or Friday to really compare but I already know the answer. I did find a 19 yr who was the best looking in the club for me that I had seen online and was talking to while I was in Rio. We never met and she was in Casarao and it was a good deal. Her ad:
[URL]https://barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-sao-paulo-sp-jamily[/URL]
A new tip I picked up — on the Uber app, pick the taxi option. Only taxis are allowed to use the Omnibus lane so they can speed thru traffic jams and get to your destination faster. The price difference is fucking negligible between VIP and taxi. Black is still more expensive.
A great week and time spent hanging with the boys!! Looking forward to doing it again soon.
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An Update From Scandallo
I have no problem with Nounce's buyer's anchor negotiating tactic and I assume it works with most Scandallo girls minus the super lookers, but I will stick with my approach where I let the girls make their offer and attempt to anchor the price high. My results with 3 Scandallo girls, all very sexy / cute, super friendly, girl next door types (tier 2): the girls started out at 1500 br. I responded with an exaggerated, comedic expression and an 800 br counter and we settled on 1000 br immediately. This is up from 800 br my average price back in June with same type girls. Now if Nounce is right, I probably would have paid 800 or 900 br instead of 1000 br. But I can't confirm this. BTW I let loose 2 other girls because they were uninspiring during the audition. My 3 November Scandallo girls all performed very well with one girl outperforming the others with an unasked, but much appreciated BBFS and her wetting the sheets twice during our session. I plan to repeat with her before I leave town. And so far, not one of my new club girls or clinica girls even tried to give me CBJ.
But this has been an unusual trip for yours truly in that I spent all my nights except for 3 nights in 15 days and counting with my favorite girl that I have known since November 2021. She is a Scandallo girl and she tells me her rates in the club have gone up commensurate with all Scandallo girly rates since 2021, but not to me!. We are anchored at 900 br for extended ST (4 to 5 hours). But the extras like a bottle of quality red vino, flower (Brazilian reefer), and dinner every night do add to the cost significantly. Anyway, this solo girl thing has been an experiment on my part, and it has paid off: the sex is really intimate genuinely a GFE. I am very fond of her. Plus, I still have my afternoons free for clinica entertainment. So, have I lost my marbles? I don't think so. KKK. Is this one my GF? No, not really. Is she my mistress? Yeah, when I am in town, but I will not be renting her an apartment or sending her cash from Florida any time soon. KKK. Do I miss not hitting Scan and Bomboa more this trip? Yeah! I do. But I am glad I made the experiment this trip anyway.
Now a shout out to Steve96, Mr. T, and Socrates. As you guy know, I am lone wolf, but it was great meeting you guys at Scandallo. See you again some time soon! To Steve and Mr T: we are now sportsmen & comrades in arms. I think you know what I mean. Happy trails to you guys, you know how to have a great time.
A. H.
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[QUOTE=Anaggie;2961901]Another fabulous trip for the books. Arrived on Tuesday and left the next Monday the most time I have spent in SP with an awesome group of ISG brothers Lalabo, SocratesNY, Steve9696, T (see Steve9696 posts), Michael lSamuel and was hoping to run into Axel Heyst but we just never saw each other. It was a great time had by all and I enjoyed the week fully. It is good to be a part of friends who think alike and enjoy like activities. It gets harder as we get older to find such brothers so these get togethers mean so much.
[/QUOTE]I am sorry we (I) got our wires crossed up and did not hook up. It was entirely my fault. I think it was the night of the 14th. I was planning to go to Scandallo all day long, but at the last moment, I called an audible and went to Bomboa instead thinking you and the guys were still in RJ. It was a BIG mistake! Bomboa was not very good that night and I imagine you guys were partying up a storm in Scandallo. It's my only regret of the trip, but it won't happen next time.
A. H.
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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2961909]I am sorry we (I) got our wires crossed up and did not hook up. It was entirely my fault. I think it was the night of the 14th. I was planning to go to Scandallo all day long, but at the last moment, I called an audible and went to Bomboa instead thinking you and the guys were still in RJ. It was a BIG mistake! Bomboa was not very good that night and I imagine you guys were partying up a storm in Scandallo. It's my only regret of the trip, but it won't happen next time.
A. H.[/QUOTE]No problem. Looking forward to meeting you next time around. I'm.
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Monday afternoon scandelllo shenanigans
Got here around 230 pm to meet SocratesNY and his friends before our flights back home. Since all of us were leaving around the same time, we would just take an Uber together.
Talent started out weak but still infinitely better than Casarao on Sunday night and it just got better and better and then even better right before we were leaving. I was considering "missing" my flight. They were so many fucking hot women walking in that I don't understand how anyone can even remotely compare this to clinicas / Casarao / or any terma or boate anywhere in Brazil.
First girl is one I was flirting with the whole week and she asked me why I wouldn't take her. Told her I was saving the best for last and she was hooked. Started at 1500, agreed to 800 all holes with BBBJ with CIM. Had to get this shot out so I can recover for the next one. Went upstairs and was back down in like 45 minutes. She did a great job and took a solid pounding the ass. Pulled off the condom and made me finish in her mouth. She was a 7.5 on my scale of 10.
Second girl wasn't really the type I go for normally but she wiggled her nice tight Brazilian bunda at me and I was hooked. She was taller and had curves and I usually like skinny girls. But I have been noticing the girls with curves lately so I was like. Fuck it. Lets get on of those today. We started talking and she started at 2 k with no anal. I laughed and said no thanks. She then asked what I wanted and I told her all three holes with BBBJ (knowing that I wasn't going to cum the second time). So she said 1500 and I said no. I will do it for 1 k. She said no anal for 1 k and I said no thanks. She looked at me and gave me a look, reached between my pants, smiled and said let's go. Up in the room, she was freaking amazing and was able to get me hard twice so I got her number and will definitely be calling her next time. This one was a solid 9/9.25 on my scale.
Scandello is a place where anything can happen at any time. And there is something for everyone. Can't wait to come back again in February.
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Taxi Tip
Anaggie calls this out below but it could get lost with the rest of the report and other reports intervening and it's such a good tip.
Traffic in SP is some of the worst in the world. And when you are taking the couple mile trip to Scandallo but it's going to take an hour it's just maddening!
In the Uber app lower down there is an option for Taxi. All the regular benefits of uber but you get a taxi instead. This is important! Taxis can use the bus lane which is largely unoccupied. You can easily take 15 minutes off your trip. Plus it's sooooo satisfying to speed past everyone.
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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2961906]But this has been an unusual trip for yours truly in that I spent all my nights except for 3 nights in 15 days and counting with my favorite girl that I have known since November 2021. [/QUOTE]I think anyone interested should consider both of our perspectives and develop their own approach. Like my post mentioned, my approach is inspired by another member and has exactly one success last week.
Now, get into your new experiment. That's what I've been doing. I have been in a few similar ones, and it is also what I prefer. I don't necessarily need variety. I always choose the best experience, Or the ones that inspire me sexually, even if it's a repeat every day. It is safe to say I'm doing this at a higher frequency. I don't look at one-time cost. I look at the cost multiplied by 30. And that is a different perspective.
I've had a few birthdays with the regulars. Recently, one of them asked for an iPhone and offered free sex for 24 hours 😁. I gave her one of my old iPhones; she didn't specify new, haha, but I don't expect anything in return for a gift. I took the other one on a shopping spree and gave her a birthday party with her friends and cousins at my apartment until 6 am She insisted it was cheaper that way. Later, I found out that my card was partially blocked from the shopping. A friendly reminder, you are always going to end up spending a lot more when the merchant see the girl with a gringo or with a boyfriend.
I helped by letting them make enough money so they wouldn't suffer financially too soon when I left. However, I don't send money either, not yet anyway.
I have thought I could stay in So Paulo forever, but nowadays, I only come to So Paulo during stopovers. I feel like I'm spending stupid money here, so I decided to go to the source. I learned quite a bit more about Brazil that is not typical of the stereotypes.
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Clinica Abobbora mid-day
I found the line-up surprisingly good even at this early hour, supposing Google was right in mentioning 12 o'clock as opening time.
I picked Tais, a tallish skinny girl with rounded butt, a body type not so common in Brazil these days. Unfortunately, the session was a fiasco. I had been sick the day before and didn't have enough stamina for full intercourse. What I wanted was to sniff some pussy while getting a hand-job. To this end I told Tais she shouldn't shower. She was adamant she should. When she said "I'm accustomed to shower beforehand" I raised my voice and said "well then change your custom just this time for me!" She did as told, but just before coming on top in 69 she applied a big handful of lubricant between her legs. Her crack was dripping in lube. She managed to ruin it for me all right.
That girl was either working very close to her menses (girls who do so want to spend time in the shower in order to flush blood), or she was just pig-headed. Be warned. Tais.
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Holiday tomorrow
Will the clinicas be open since it is a holiday tomorrow?
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[QUOTE=XXL;2962144]
What I wanted was to sniff some pussy while getting a hand-job. To this end I told Tais she shouldn't shower. She was adamant she should. When she said "I'm accustomed to shower beforehand" I raised my voice and said "well then change your custom just this time for me!" She did as told, but just before coming on top in 69 she applied a big handful of lubricant between her legs. Her crack was dripping in lube. She managed to ruin it for me all right.
That girl was either working very close to her menses (girls who do so want to spend time in the shower in order to flush blood), or she was just pig-headed. Be warned. Tais.[/QUOTE]In my experience, when they insist that they need to shower, you should always let them.
They know their reasons way better than you.
I understand the need to smell the pussy and ass area. But the reality is sometimes not the way we hope.
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[QUOTE=Jbj64;2962153]Will the clinicas be open since it is a holiday tomorrow?[/QUOTE]They are open.
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Screwed again
I saw the currency conversion screen a flash of a second but the shopkeeper was quicker. She said "of course" when I said I wanted to pay in Real and there's the result. Brazil has a dual-pricing system folks, a worse one that Thailand! The only way to avoid this would be to be the one manipulating the machine. I'm fed up with this. From now on I'll withdraw more cash from the ATM and pay everything I can I in cash. A bit of a hassle but there's no other way.
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Things that make you go hmmm
[QUOTE=XXL;2962356]I saw the currency conversion screen a flash of a second but the shopkeeper was quicker. She said "of course" when I said I wanted to pay in Real and there's the result. Brazil has a dual-pricing system folks, a worse one that Thailand! The only way to avoid this would be to be the one manipulating the machine. I'm fed up with this. From now on I'll withdraw more cash from the ATM and pay everything I can I in cash. A bit of a hassle but there's no other way.[/QUOTE]Happened to me this summer as well in SP, the trick is to not use contactless and instead insert the card into the card reader then hit the red button twice. Works every time.
I was in Rio two weeks ago and could use contactless and every transaction came out in RS (every receipt read RS). Could be a SP thing?
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My favorite subject
[QUOTE=XXL;2962356]I saw the currency conversion screen a flash of a second but the shopkeeper was quicker. She said "of course" when I said I wanted to pay in Real and there's the result. Brazil has a dual-pricing system folks, a worse one that Thailand! The only way to avoid this would be to be the one manipulating the machine. I'm fed up with this. From now on I'll withdraw more cash from the ATM and pay everything I can I in cash. A bit of a hassle but there's no other way.[/QUOTE]I have document this extensively. It's a big city or SP thing, not a Brazil thing. The cashier is supposed to show you the screen and let you make a choice and that is what the terminal says. Did the cashier let you make the choice or not? You can ask them to redo it if the cashier did not let you make the choice. It is even written on the receipt. It happened to me so many times that I warned them not to press anything. LOL. Remember always the negative choice.
I was buying flight departing from SP a few days ago. It was showing one price is USD all the way until I entered my credit issuing country (this is new). Then the price jumped to a higher USD amount. I called the airline and they gave me some lame excuse.
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Last night in SP
Have a friend that is willing to go. To a swinger's club with me. Remember, there is one about that has a bus in it don't recall the.
The other option is scandalo. It is just far from my airbnb and I don't know what to do with my suitcase. I hate coming all the way back here at 2 am. Have early flight, so thinking of just staying up all night.
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[QUOTE=Jbj64;2962553]Have a friend that is willing to go. To a swinger's club with me. Remember, there is one about that has a bus in it don't recall the.
The other option is scandalo. It is just far from my airbnb and I don't know what to do with my suitcase. I hate coming all the way back here at 2 am. Have early flight, so thinking of just staying up all night.[/QUOTE]Scandallo is perfect for storing luggage and going to airport from there after having fun. I personally never done that but I have seen some of my friends do that.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2962541]
I was buying flight departing from SP a few days ago. It was showing one price is USD all the way until I entered my credit issuing country (this is new). Then the price jumped to a higher USD amount. I called the airline and they gave me some lame excuse.[/QUOTE]It happened to me too. I guess we have to pay the gringo tax😠.
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Scandallo is Perfect
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2962556]Scandallo is perfect for storing luggage and going to airport from there after having fun. I personally never done that but I have seen some of my friends do that.[/QUOTE]As L says it couldn't be any easier at Scandallo. I did it just recently. They have a full luggage check area and give you a rubber wrist band with your number. Plus Scans is not that far from GRU and no traffic at 2 AM. It was absolutely perfect!
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Scandallo on a Budget
[QUOTE=Jbj64;2962553]Have a friend that is willing to go. To a swinger's club with me. Remember, there is one about that has a bus in it don't recall the.
The other option is scandalo. It is just far from my airbnb and I don't know what to do with my suitcase. I hate coming all the way back here at 2 am. Have early flight, so thinking of just staying up all night.[/QUOTE]Of course it's the most fun not on a budget. But here are some money saving tips if you want to experience Scandallo and save a few bucks.
1. Go before 7. You do not have the 200 R cover before 7. Plan carefully tho as traffic is bad and 7:01 is after 7 no exceptions.
2. Drink beer! Coronas are like 60 R or something. This is less than half the price of a mixed drink. Same alcohol content.
3. Offer less. I did not find girl prices to be unreasonable. I had offers of 1000-1200 R. They definitely would have taken less. Tell them you can only do 800 R and you are probably good.
Two other thoughts. Exchange rate is now 5. 75 so you really are getting a deal. I was paying 800 in 2019 when it was 4:1. If you go before 7 eat in the restaurant. It's no more expensive than any nice restaurant in SP and the food is really good. The Dragon Roll and Salmon were both stunning. Best cooked salmon I've had in years.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2962584]Of course it's the most fun not on a budget. But here are some money saving tips if you want to experience Scandallo and save a few bucks.
1. Go before 7. You do not have the 200 R cover before 7. Plan carefully tho as traffic is bad and 7:01 is after 7 no exceptions.
2. Drink beer! Coronas are like 60 R or something. This is less than half the price of a mixed drink. Same alcohol content.
3. Offer less. I did not find girl prices to be unreasonable. I had offers of 1000-1200 R. They definitely would have taken less. Tell them you can only do 800 R and you are probably good.
Two other thoughts. Exchange rate is now 5. 75 so you really are getting a deal. I was paying 800 in 2019 when it was 4:1. If you go before 7 eat in the restaurant. It's no more expensive than any nice restaurant in SP and the food is really good. The Dragon Roll and Salmon were both stunning. Best cooked salmon I've had in years.[/QUOTE]1) You still have to pay the 300 Real entrance fee (consumable) entering before 7 PM.
2) Local beers are 35-40 Real.
The sushi plate is also very good and filling.
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Casarao, Friday
When I arrived at 11:00 pm Yesterday Casarao was already in full swing. As many men as women though. Not many lookers, quite a few uglies. A very thin tallish girl with the loveliest of faces, dressed up from head to foot in shiny white, stood bathing in men's stares. She had no butt though. In Thailand I would certainly have written her down as a tranny, not least because of her height.
Somehow the atmosphere in Casarao was not conducive to getting to first base. I left after forty minutes and entered Balneario next door.
There were five or six girls in Balneario. The atmosphere was friendly and unassuming. I agreed on a session with Helena for 300 Reais + 50 for the room. Balneario have improved their rooms. Still a dump though.
If Casarao cramps your style, I recommend dropping in on Balneario. Cover charge is 30 Reais.
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Outcall [URL]Skokka.com[/URL]
Hi guys, that's my first post here and I hope all is good.
Does anybody has some experience with br. [URL]skokka.com[/URL] and other websites where you can order girls to your hotel room?
What are you impressions and experiences / price?
I will travel soon and I will definitely report here.
Thanks all of you.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2963069]When I arrived at 11:00 pm Yesterday Casarao was already in full swing. As many men as women though. Not many lookers, quite a few uglies. A very thin tallish girl with the loveliest of faces, dressed up from head to foot in shiny white, stood bathing in men's stares. She had no butt though. In Thailand I would certainly have written her down as a tranny, not least because of her height.
Somehow the atmosphere in Casarao was not conducive to getting to first base. I left after forty minutes and entered Balneario next door.
If Casarao cramps your style, I recommend dropping in on Balneario. Cover charge is 30 Reais.[/QUOTE]I think that I just missed you. I was there too. 11:30 to 1 am and only saw 2 which I liked and they were 7. 5 in my book and grabbed quickly for 30 minute sessions. Overall a bit of a dissapointment.
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2 seasons
[QUOTE=XXL;2963069]When I arrived at 11:00 pm Yesterday Casarao was already in full swing. As many men as women though. Not many lookers, quite a few uglies. A very thin tallish girl with the loveliest of faces, dressed up from head to foot in shiny white, stood bathing in men's stares. She had no butt though. In Thailand I would certainly have written her down as a tranny, not least because of her height.
Somehow the atmosphere in Casarao was not conducive to getting to first base. I left after forty minutes and entered Balneario next door.
There were five or six girls in Balneario. The atmosphere was friendly and unassuming. I agreed on a session with Helena for 300 Reais + 50 for the room. Balneario have improved their rooms. Still a dump though.
If Casarao cramps your style, I recommend dropping in on Balneario. Cover charge is 30 Reais.[/QUOTE]I got there about 11:30 p also on Fri after a stop at Bahama. About Bahama first, got there about 10 pm and I was the only guy there with about 15 girls. I was approached by a couple girls but none warranted to me to be sessionsd. About a half hour later, this one garota I hadn't seen before approached and she was different in her looks, gestures and spoke a little English. After a few minutes of chat and a drink for her we went to the room. She had initially asked for 700 I offered 500, she agreed. She didn't disappoint, BBBJ, intense DFK and I love how she kept speaking Porto while being drilled.
Left there and went to Casarao and it was packed when I arrived. Honestly, it was a welcomed sight based on the talent options I just was at Bahamas. I got a beer and walked around upper and lower levels and saw a handful that were in the 7-8 range. While looking around, this one garota, long dark hair, piercing eyes and a glow to her face gives me that innocence look. Initially, she looked like a girl I had met at Scandallo the night before where we exchange numbers. Anyway, after a quick intro, she's from Salvador Bahia, I told what I want (BBBJ, CIM) we agreed at 450. In the room she didn't disappoint and delivered as promised.
Since it was only about 12:30, I made it back inside, and the lower had most of the talents. Before long, this garota, tall, Moreno, slender but with a nice romp introduced her self. We had some small talk, mostly using the translator app while my hands were working her behind. We agreed on 350 with BBBJ. Another great season but not as nasty as the first garota but well worth the price. Come to find out the first girl I sessioned and her are friends and she too is from Salvador Bahia. They are working in SP until before Christmas before going back. I told he that I will need to schedule a 3 some on Sun.
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[QUOTE=Fouche;2963241]I got there about 11:30 p also on Fri after a stop at Bahama. About Bahama first, got there about 10 pm and I was the only guy there with about 15 girls. I was approached by a couple girls but none warranted to me to be sessionsd. About a half hour later, this one garota I hadn't seen before approached and she was different in her looks, gestures and spoke a little English. After a few minutes of chat and a drink for her we went to the room. She had initially asked for 700 I offered 500, she agreed. She didn't disappoint, BBBJ, intense DFK and I love how she kept speaking Porto while being drilled.
Left there and went to Casarao and it was packed when I arrived. Honestly, it was a welcomed sight based on the talent options I just was at Bahamas. I got a beer and walked around upper and lower levels and saw a handful that were in the 7-8 range. While looking around, this one garota, long dark hair, piercing eyes and a glow to her face gives me that innocence look. Initially, she looked like a girl I had met at Scandallo the night before where we exchange numbers. Anyway, after a quick intro, she's from Salvador Bahia, I told what I want (BBBJ, CIM) we agreed at 450. In the room she didn't disappoint and delivered as promised.
Since it was only about 12:30, I made it back inside, and the lower had most of the talents. Before long, this garota, tall, Moreno, slender but with a nice romp introduced her self. We had some small talk, mostly using the translator app while my hands were working her behind. We agreed on 350 with BBBJ. Another great season but not as nasty as the first garota but well worth the price. Come to find out the first girl I sessioned and her are friends and she too is from Salvador Bahia. They are working in SP until before Christmas before going back. I told he that I will need to schedule a 3 some on Sun.[/QUOTE]Nice report.
My exact experiences at Casarao each time I go there.
Of course there are more girls at Scandallo, coupled with better ambience.
But how many beautiful girls can you session with in one night anyway.
When in Sao Paulo. I usually go to Casarao 3/4 times a week. And have two 30-minute sessions per visit.
Can't go wrong with that. And I'm usually happy with the girls and performances.
I do visit Scandallo once in a while.
But it's just for the eye candy, and to collect Whatsapp numbers.
It's cheaper in your condo, and the sex is usually better.
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[QUOTE=Fouche;2963241]I got there about 11:30 p also on Fri after a stop at Bahama. About Bahama first, got there about 10 pm and I was the only guy there with about 15 girls. I was approached by a couple girls but none warranted to me to be sessionsd. About a half hour later, this one garota I hadn't seen before approached and she was different in her looks, gestures and spoke a little English. After a few minutes of chat and a drink for her we went to the room. She had initially asked for 700 I offered 500, she agreed. She didn't disappoint, BBBJ, intense DFK and I love how she kept speaking Porto while being drilled.
Left there and went to Casarao and it was packed when I arrived. Honestly, it was a welcomed sight based on the talent options I just was at Bahamas. I got a beer and walked around upper and lower levels and saw a handful that were in the 7-8 range. While looking around, this one garota, long dark hair, piercing eyes and a glow to her face gives me that innocence look. Initially, she looked like a girl I had met at Scandallo the night before where we exchange numbers. Anyway, after a quick intro, she's from Salvador Bahia, I told what I want (BBBJ, CIM) we agreed at 450. In the room she didn't disappoint and delivered as promised.
Since it was only about 12:30, I made it back inside, and the lower had most of the talents. Before long, this garota, tall, Moreno, slender but with a nice romp introduced her self. We had some small talk, mostly using the translator app while my hands were working her behind. We agreed on 350 with BBBJ. Another great season but not as nasty as the first garota but well worth the price. Come to find out the first girl I sessioned and her are friends and she too is from Salvador Bahia. They are working in SP until before Christmas before going back. I told he that I will need to schedule a 3 some on Sun.[/QUOTE]Looks like you found some winners there. It would be helpful to know the duration of each of your sessions.
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Casarão
I am visiting today (Sunday November 24th). Any other forum members visiting?
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Duration
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2963365]Looks like you found some winners there. It would be helpful to know the duration of each of your sessions.[/QUOTE]At Bahama, about 45 minutes and the 2 sessions at Casarao 30 minutes each.
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Casarao Sunday banger!
Sunday my last night in SP. I thought of hitting one of the open clinicas during the day but didn't want to settle for what was available, so opted for Casarao late evening. I arrived about 11 p but first decided to check out Balneario next door, having read some decent stories about this joint. There were 8 girls and a couple guys and from first looks, none were serviceable. I was approached by 4 of them and politely let them know that I wasn't interested. After my 2nd consumable beer (R25 cover on entry) I skipped to Casarao about 11:30 p.
It wasn't as crowded as Friday night but talent was an upgrade from Balneario. Since it was relatively early, I gave myself an hour to assess the later arriving garotas before I would make a selection. In the midst of my browsing, I ran into the 2 girls (friends) I had sessioned on Friday. They offered R600 to take both to the room but I declined. I needed a fresh one on my last night. I made a couple rounds on both levels and spotted 2 brunettes that fit the billing, both in the range of 8+(even better than a lot I saw at scandallo on Thursday). I made my move on the one that wasn't occupied in a conversation with a punter and to my luck she spoke good English. She was all smiles and the flirtatious groping was in full effect. We agreed on R700 for a full hour, 2 shots and a massage included. She agreed on a BBBJ if my soldier passed the eye test. LOL.
In room, we started making out and she quickly started to undressed me. When she took her clothes off, I nodded and by far she was the best looks / body of 7 garotas I had already sessioned since I arrived. Needless to say, my soldier passed her eye test. She wiped him down and slowly went to work, with periodic spits and balls sucking while playing with my ahole with her other hand. This went for a good 15 minutes. She slapped on the cover and we went at it doing multiple positions for a good 20 minutes, finishing of with quatro. She laid on my chest and asked me a few questions about the escort industry in the US, if it was legal. She has interests in seeing if she can be a sugar baby and potentially get married to get her legal status.
She asks if I'm ready for round two or a massage first. I opted for the massage first and there again she was very good. I enjoyed every moment of it. By time she was done with the massage our hour was approaching, so I didn't bother to go for round 2 since I knew it would have taken me more than 20 minutes to cum. We took a shower together, a couple selfies after, some more DFK, exchanged numbers, gave her an extra R100 and I was out.
Heading to Rio for 2 wks.
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Question re "bookprivado"
Came across this site, red flag as requesting payment to view. Anybody have experience with this site?
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The block is too quiet
I woke her up around 8 am so we won't lose the breakfast in the "ultimo andar". And back to the room a very refreshing doggy style.
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[QUOTE=PGTour;2964540]Came across this site, red flag as requesting payment to view. Anybody have experience with this site?[/QUOTE]No experience, but its legitimate marketing tool on a higher end.
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[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2964601]I woke her up around 8 am so we won't lose the breakfast in the "ultimo andar". And back to the room a very refreshing doggy style.[/QUOTE]The block isn't too quiet with all the ruckus going on in your room with that nice looking lady. Hehe!
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The SP threat is too quiet
What I really ment was the Sao Paulo threat is too quiet these days. So many things must be happening now because of the devaluation of the Real, for example.
About the girl in the pics. I made this shoot back in 2012 hahahahaha. I met her in a ripoff bar named Zeus back then. The night was disapointing and the bar super expensive, but suddenly this chick was sitting in a very distant corner, alone. She was good very good in the bed, very brasileira bunda and very funny. Certain IOP if we would have spent more days together. Unfortunately never heard from her again.
Note: I have a fetiche with flannel shirts which she enjoyed a lot.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2964802]The block isn't too quiet with all the ruckus going on in your room with that nice looking lady. Hehe![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=PGTour;2964540]Came across this site, red flag as requesting payment to view. Anybody have experience with this site?[/QUOTE]I looked on gpguia and there's one thread on it. Sweetangel and bookprivado are apparently the same site with different names. Girls are real though some contacted girls didn't even now they were on the site. Maybe they collect the info from other sites? Questionable usefulness. Let us know if you try it. For now, I think I will pass.
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Anyone in SP next week?
Hey guys.
Anyone in São Paulo next week?
Planning a few nights at Scandallo, would be great to have some company there.
Cheers.
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Couple looking for excitment
We are staying in SP in hotel in Ibirapuiera, we will leave our door open to have one guy come in and fuck my wife. She is very, very sexy, 30 yo Thai girl.
Dec. 8 very early morning after we come come back from swing club, at 6 am.
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Sounds great
[QUOTE=Philcokin;2966227]We are staying in SP in hotel in Ibirapuiera, we will leave our door open to have one guy come in and fuck my wife. She is very, very sexy, 30 yo Thai girl.
Dec. 8 very early morning after we come come back from swing club, at 6 am.[/QUOTE]Are you on any swinger sites?
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[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2966263]Are you on any swinger sites?[/QUOTE]Are you in SP?
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Artemis
Hi guys,
Anyone going to Scandallo these days let me know if you come across a young lady naming herself Artemis. Skinny, light skinned small built, hair is light brown and shoulder long, barely A cups with piercings. Claims to have been a model and relatively new there.
Asking for a friend.
PM me or if not possible post here, picture can be supplied but only via PM.
Appreciated and thanks in advance.
FA.
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Verstapen in the club
Is it true, Verstappen spent a crazy night in scandallo during the GP?
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Not to mention
[QUOTE=Sperto;2961455]Just sharing my opinion. Better not reading if you don't want to get upset.
Since Altobomgosto left us I never spent more than one minute updating on the Sao Paulo thread. To me it seems like reading a thread from another country. All these short-time travellerers spending big money telling how they got fantastic sex and BBBJ from a girl at Scandallo at a cost of 1-2 months salaries. I don't mind as every one spending their money as they want. On the opposite, lets put all the big spenders, who save up for their short holiday, in one place without ruining the game for other mongers.
I understand these newbies big spenders way of thinking. They pay an absurd amount of money and think they get the best quality. However when buying pussy in Brazil, price isn't equal to quality. That's awful to hear, isn't it? Spending all that absurd money and listen to somebody telling that they are throwing away their money. Not to forget, the few photos of Scandallo girls that have been posted are nothing remarkable.
My remarks has nothing to do with budgets. Most of us could spend big box on pussy, but I would feel like an *diot paying 2 months salaries just to stick my dick in a p*ssy.
I do enjoy go clubbing in high-end clubs, but not with h**ckers. To me it's like dressings pigs in nice clothes imaging I'm getting laid because of my big charm.
Whatever, to each their own. Have fun![/QUOTE]Agree, have seen where tourist have changed the scene.
I have tried the different levels of cost and found there is no difference IMHO. The part about the low cost is if the girl pretends to have chemistry until the room, or the sex is bad, or anything else, if I have spent on the low end, I just go find another one. 5 girls in one day - 2 were amazing - 2 okay and - 1 not good. The almost girlfriends is where I prefer to spend more money. They are the long term relationships, can share more then just sex, and there is a level of trust.
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Health tests
Does Scandallo request regular Health tests from the girls under contract?
FA.
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LOL, the filling station prices in the background are in USD $ per gallon. The make of car is Honda or Toyota and not a late model. You have to really want to believe it's Verstappen in Brazil to even wonder if the image is real.
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2966876]Is it true, Verstappen spent a crazy night in scandallo during the GP?[/QUOTE]
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3 months (Sept. -Dec. '24) in SAO report
I spent 3 months in Sao Paulo, from Sep to Dec'24. I already posted reports about my previous visits and posted a report in Oct'24 after my 1st month.
So, not repeating info I already posted. Adding only additional info based on remaining 2 months (Oct. -Dec. '24).
I spent most of my time in Tangara and Yankin, as I was happy enough with sessions and there are good number of doable & repeat girls.
Every day, both has about 30 girls each, and I have seen about 80-100 girls in both places combined over 3 months I was there.
They increased the prices to 170/30 min, 230/1 HR from Nov11. (It was 170/ HR in Jan'20,190/ HR in early'23,200/ HR before 11 Nov'24. So, this is a bigger jump. I hope the prices remains the same for a longer time).
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Indulge me a brief diversion from Scandallo. I'm hoping one of you Sao Paulo veterans can provide some intel to help me understand something I've been wondering about for something like three years now. On the northbound side of Avenida Indianapolis heading from Indianapolis toward Planalto Paulista, just as the 2600 block becomes the 2700 near a yellow house on the corner I always see girls clearly on the program. Sometimes they are really nice. I've often wondered whether they are working out of the house on the corner as it seems they are and also what the rules of engagement are. Next time I am in town I plan to finally investigate and share my findings. If I can get some intel from a vet that is always helpful. You can check the image history on street view maps by searching Av. Indianapolis 2698 Sao Paulo.
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Still solid value, especially compared to some of the Moema places that are almost twice as much. The last time I was in Sao Paulo I popped into Moema Prime for the first time in a while. I was surprised to see the talent right about at Vila Mariana Tangara / Yankin level.
[QUOTE=TomDick69;2967521]I spent 3 months in Sao Paulo, from Sep to Dec'24. I already posted reports about my previous visits and posted a report in Oct'24 after my 1st month.
So, not repeating info I already posted. Adding only additional info based on remaining 2 months (Oct. -Dec. '24).
I spent most of my time in Tangara and Yankin, as I was happy enough with sessions and there are good number of doable & repeat girls.
Every day, both has about 30 girls each, and I have seen about 80-100 girls in both places combined over 3 months I was there.
They increased the prices to 170/30 min, 230/1 HR from Nov11. (It was 170/ HR in Jan'20,190/ HR in early'23,200/ HR before 11 Nov'24. So, this is a bigger jump. I hope the prices remains the same for a longer time).[/QUOTE]
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Sw
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2967745]Indulge me a brief diversion from Scandallo. I'm hoping one of you Sao Paulo veterans can provide some intel to help me understand something I've been wondering about for something like three years now. On the northbound side of Avenida Indianapolis heading from Indianapolis toward Planalto Paulista, just as the 2600 block becomes the 2700 near a yellow house on the corner I always see girls clearly on the program. Sometimes they are really nice. I've often wondered whether they are working out of the house on the corner as it seems they are and also what the rules of engagement are. Next time I am in town I plan to finally investigate and share my findings. If I can get some intel from a vet that is always helpful. You can check the image history on street view maps by searching Av. Indianapolis 2698 Sao Paulo.[/QUOTE]They are probably streetwalker. I seen them around also. Never tried. I remember there is some info on gp-guia on them. Also some YouTube channels with driving the streets.
[URL]https://youtu.be/MEXyvClfJgk?si=pDPssZ1SvVt4Bb8t[/URL]
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Indianopolis is maybe the oldest spot for Streetwalkers in SP. It's close from Moema. There is a vibe because nightlife girls in brazil are deep into heavy party.
There is a popular song to those kind of brazilian night girls. Vai vadiar by Zeca Pagodinho. A garota de Prog tambem conhecida como Vadia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFzsfe5EEaE
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2967745]...Next time I am in town I plan to finally investigate and share my findings. If I can get some intel from a vet that is always helpful. You can check the image history on street view maps by searching Av. Indianapolis 2698 Sao Paulo.[/QUOTE]
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Bbjnqns
I read a lot about CIP in various forums here, but personally I like a No-Quit-No-Spit BJ. Is this commonly available or difficult to find?
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Yea but YMMV
[QUOTE=PilotPete;2968568]I read a lot about CIP in various forums here, but personally I like a No-Quit-No-Spit BJ. Is this commonly available or difficult to find?[/QUOTE]This is def a YMMV and bear in mind my comments are for premium girls like at scandallo. I tallied my visit a year ago and 8 out of ten experiences were CIM. And of those eight half swallowed.
Surely no guarantee and YMMV but that was my experience. It wasn't discussed. It just happened.
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[QUOTE=PilotPete;2968568]I read a lot about CIP in various forums here, but personally I like a No-Quit-No-Spit BJ. Is this commonly available or difficult to find?[/QUOTE]Even so not all No-Quit-No-Spit BJs are the same. Some girls have the ability to give BBBJs that are the best sexual experiences that one can ever have. They can take you to a level of ecstasy that is unimaginable. However, they are 1 in 400. The last time I had one was over seven years ago I think. I'm still waiting for another.
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[QUOTE=PilotPete;2968568]I read a lot about CIP in various forums here, but personally I like a No-Quit-No-Spit BJ. Is this commonly available or difficult to find?[/QUOTE]There are BJ bars in Thailand and other places. Have you tried those?
I think you need to qualify what is no quit? I assume the girl can give you BJ for one hour or more. That is not easy to find. Even when they could do it, they would need to take a break here and there. That is what I call counting time and not counting times.
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Mongering in Santos?
Hi. I'll be visiting SP next month. I've been there a few times and feel very comfortable with all the different options available (clinicas, bars, clubs, etc). However, this time I'm planning on spending a few days in Santos. Anyone has any experience of where to go there? Do they have clinicas / clubs? Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2968739]There are BJ bars in Thailand and other places. Have you tried those?
I think you need to qualify what is no quit? I assume the girl can give you BJ for one hour or more. That is not easy to find. Even when they could do it, they would need to take a break here and there. That is what I call counting time and not counting times.[/QUOTE]No Quit No Spit (NQNS) refers to her continuing the blowjob as you are cumming in her mouth & not stopping until dick deflates. No spit doesn't mean she has to swallow, as she can let it drool out. So long as she doesn't quit. Is that available outside BJ bars?
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What not to do in SP
I checked out many of the places listed in past reports and did not like the cost to benefit so kept digging.
Street girls by the train station looked really strung out and a lot of guys with them. I had driven past a favela and saw what could have been streetwalkers but could not find it later to go back and check it out. I found another favela on the map and when I got close saw a police pull up on a dude finishing with some "girl" behind some cars. Do not know what happened but saw the guy and "girl" later walking up into the favela so drove around and saw a few spots that had girls sitting outside. Not my type so kept walking until a few guys came up to me but I don't speak Portugese so could not understand them. They seemed a little surpised I was "hanging" out in the area. There are women working in these areas, but pretty sure outsiders are not welcome.
Next mistake. Cine hot movie theater. It looked busy so paid the 100 to go in and check it out. 2 levels. A LOT of lady boys, maybe 2 or 3 girls. This place was more like a swingers club for ladyboys and guys who don't care what kind of hole it is.
I did find some fun near a shop called Retífica Tiago. Small engine repair. Went there a few different evenings and every time had different line up of 15- 20 girls. Girls were all sizes but did have about 4 - 20 ish short skinny girls. Price was 65 for 20 and 120 for 30. Small dirty room with no water.
Many of the other Prives listed in older reports appeared to be closed for good.
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[QUOTE=Member#3137;2968744]Hi. I'll be visiting SP next month. I've been there a few times and feel very comfortable with all the different options available (clinicas, bars, clubs, etc). However, this time I'm planning on spending a few days in Santos. Anyone has any experience of where to go there? Do they have clinicas / clubs? Thanks![/QUOTE]I was there about 5 months ago (June / July) and mainly used online sites to find girls contacts and then whatsapp to message. I think I used mainly ondate. Honestly probably not the move, a few times it was definitely a dude on the other end of the phone telling me to go through some sketch money transfer website so def stay away from those. The few girls I did actually meet with were significantly lower than those I had in the city (sp). Chunkier, less interested, etc. But ymmv.
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Visiting Brazil
I will be visiting Brazil (SP and Rio) for the first time early next year. I am interested in "dates" with escorts. Looking for a hot girl to take to dinner and then back to hotel after. She would need to speak English and be presentable at a nice restaurant. I have done some research on the internet. Is Euro Escort Girls the best source? Are there any good review sites? Any advice would be appreciated.
HK.
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Seeking Plus
[QUOTE=HardKnox;2969328]I will be visiting Brazil (SP and Rio) for the first time early next year. I am interested in "dates" with escorts. Looking for a hot girl to take to dinner and then back to hotel after. She would need to speak English and be presentable at a nice restaurant. I have done some research on the internet. Is Euro Escort Girls the best source? Are there any good review sites? Any advice would be appreciated.
HK.[/QUOTE]Saw you posted in Rio thread also and some suggested Seeking Arrangements. This is definitely your best bet for a true date like experience. It's a lot of work to sift thru the girls and find a good one. But when you do it's magical. I found a gem in Rio. We went to dinner and back to the hotel. Amazing. And not ever expensive. We really clicked. So I flew her to SP for three days the following year. And then to Barcelona. And then spent three days in Rio with her again. So a few hour date can turn into a whole lot more with the right girl. And I can pretty much see her any time I visit or fly her somewhere. Seeking can be one night or a multi year on and off affair. This won't happen w an escort.
The other approach is to go to Scandallo (u sound like you have money). There you can have a mini-date and take her to the hotel if you like. You can then do dinner dates and room time and weekends or whatever negotiated directly between yourselves. I have several friend that roll this way. You can do this at lower end clubs like Casarao also (I had a lunch date w a girl from there the next day) but much less likely to find English speakers. Scandallo is going to have the highest class girls and most English.
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Great information
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2969475]Saw you posted in Rio thread also and some suggested Seeking Arrangements. This is definitely your best bet for a true date like experience. It's a lot of work to sift thru the girls and find a good one. But when you do it's magical. I found a gem in Rio. We went to dinner and back to the hotel. Amazing. And not ever expensive. We really clicked. So I flew her to SP for three days the following year. And then to Barcelona. And then spent three days in Rio with her again. So a few hour date can turn into a whole lot more with the right girl. And I can pretty much see her any time I visit or fly her somewhere. Seeking can be one night or a multi year on and off affair. This won't happen w an escort.
The other approach is to go to Scandallo (u sound like you have money). There you can have a mini-date and take her to the hotel if you like. You can then do dinner dates and room time and weekends or whatever negotiated directly between yourselves. I have several friend that roll this way. You can do this at lower end clubs like Casarao also (I had a lunch date w a girl from there the next day) but much less likely to find English speakers. Scandallo is going to have the highest class girls and most English.[/QUOTE]Thank you for this advice! I very much appreciate everyone who has taken the time to respond to my query.
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[QUOTE=HardKnox;2969328]I will be visiting Brazil (SP and Rio) for the first time early next year. I am interested in "dates" with escorts. Looking for a hot girl to take to dinner and then back to hotel after. She would need to speak English and be presentable at a nice restaurant. I have done some research on the internet. Is Euro Escort Girls the best source? Are there any good review sites? Any advice would be appreciated.
HK.[/QUOTE]I was in sp a few months ago and used eurogirlsescort once. It was a bit pricy as you probably already know if you've spent time on the site. I will say though that the girls do seem to be much higher quality than the less expensive options (my limited experience. Ymmv.).
Found a girl on eurogirlsescort, messaged her on WhatsApp, booked her for an hour (prolly ran me 200 usd). Then went to see a footbal match, when I got back told her I was ready and then let her in when she arrived. I was staying in a nicer hotel (forget which one now but maybe the hilton or smth) so the security asked me to sign her in. Not sure how common this is but had to go to reception, give them her ID, I mighta had to give them my ID I forget but think I had to sign smth also. Anyway kinda annoying but after that was done took her up.
Paid her and then she went to the bathroom to get ready, came back in some red lingerie. Had her suck my dick for 10 minutes or so while I just laid back watching a football match on tv. Good GFE, peeled off my socks slowly and moving up. Only thing was every time I put my hands on her head / neck to fuck her throat she would move my hands so that was kinda bummer. Aside from that good BBBJ. No teeth, deepthroat, etc. Fucked for prolly 30 minutes covered ofc. Diff positions, she rode me, doggy, etc. She had a pretty good body, super tight, nothing hanging or sagging, prolly mid to late 20's. Came and then showered. Let her use my shower and extra towel and kissed her bye.
If interested I can try to find her contact as I would def recommend her. Only thing I will say: I didn't ask her about specific services ahead of time like swallowing, etc. I'm used to giving golden showers and having my fluids ingested but for this appointment didn't so just finished on the sheets pretty much. Attached a video of just the scene but didn't ask her about recording either so don't have any head videos. Cheers.
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[QUOTE=Connerak;2969311]I was there about 5 months ago (June / July) and mainly used online sites to find girls contacts and then whatsapp to message. I think I used mainly ondate. Honestly probably not the move, a few times it was definitely a dude on the other end of the phone telling me to go through some sketch money transfer website so def stay away from those. The few girls I did actually meet with were significantly lower than those I had in the city (sp). Chunkier, less interested, etc. But ymmv.[/QUOTE]Thanks man, appreciate the insight! If I do end up going to Santos, I'll report my experience here. Not 100% convinced yet, you just can't beat the quality and quantity of girls available in SP.
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[QUOTE=HardKnox;2969328]I will be visiting Brazil (SP and Rio) for the first time early next year. I am interested in "dates" with escorts. Looking for a hot girl to take to dinner and then back to hotel after. She would need to speak English and be presentable at a nice restaurant. I have done some research on the internet. Is Euro Escort Girls the best source? Are there any good review sites? Any advice would be appreciated.
HK.[/QUOTE]Seeking is probably your safest bet. I've done it multiple times in SP, experience have ranged from OK to absolutely amazing. If you find the right girl (it does take some effort, extra points if you speak a bit of Portuguese), then you're set. In the long run, it's probably cheaper than going to Scandalo if you find one you're comfortable with and see her multiple times. Be a gentleman, anticipate her needs, and they'll like spending time with you. I'm in my mid-40's and it's always surprising how many times I've heard 20 something Seeking girls complain about guys their age, not only about lack of funds / etc, but just basic stuff like opening doors, pulling out chairs, etc. She might be a working girl, but when you're together, make her feel like a princess. That's worked well for me. Good luck and enjoy! I'll be in SP next month (last week of January), counting the days to re-live those adventures again.
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Prives
[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2968919]I checked out many of the places listed in past reports and did not like the cost to benefit so kept digging.
Many of the other Prives listed in older reports appeared to be closed for good.[/QUOTE]These are prives with recent reports in Dec on the local forum. Prices range from 40 r for 20 minutes to less than 100 r for 30 mins. Enjoy!
Privê the are. Conselheiro Saraiva, 376 - Santana.
Privê the are. Astarte, 114 - Carrão.
Privê the are. Guaiaúna, 419 - Penha.
Privê the are. Pitangueiras, 95 - Praça the Árvore.
Privê the Rua Doutor Olavo Egídio, 482 (ex- are. Dr. Zuquim, 487) - Santana.
Privê the are. Carneiro the Cunha, 400 - Saúde.
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Now that is some good intel! 40 r fucks!
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2970340]These are prives with recent reports in Dec on the local forum. Prices range from 40 r for 20 minutes to less than 100 r for 30 mins. Enjoy!
Priv the are. Conselheiro Saraiva, 376 - Santana.
Priv the are. Astarte, 114 - Carro.
Priv the are. Guaiana, 419 - Penha.
Priv the are. Pitangueiras, 95 - Praa the rvore.
Priv the Rua Doutor Olavo Egdio, 482 (ex- are. Dr. Zuquim, 487) - Santana.
Priv the are. Carneiro the Cunha, 400 - Sade.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2970340]These are prives with recent reports in Dec on the local forum. Prices range from 40 r for 20 minutes to less than 100 r for 30 mins. Enjoy!
Priv the are. Conselheiro Saraiva, 376 - Santana.
Priv the are. Astarte, 114 - Carro.
Priv the are. Guaiana, 419 - Penha.
Priv the are. Pitangueiras, 95 - Praa the rvore.
Priv the Rua Doutor Olavo Egdio, 482 (ex- are. Dr. Zuquim, 487) - Santana.
Priv the are. Carneiro the Cunha, 400 - Sade.[/QUOTE]What's the quality of girls in these prives? I went to Tangara last time I was in SP (October), but didn't find any good ones. Took a look and left. Any of these is better than the others? Thanks!
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Expectations
[QUOTE=Member#3137;2970517]What's the quality of girls in these prives? I went to Tangara last time I was in SP (October), but didn't find any good ones. Took a look and left. Any of these is better than the others? Thanks![/QUOTE]You're kidding right? Youre looking for quality at $17 USD a pop? Your other posts show u have coin. I’d be wary of trolling the bottom.
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Relevant
[QUOTE=Member#3137;2970517]What's the quality of girls in these prives? I went to Tangara last time I was in SP (October), but didn't find any good ones. Took a look and left. Any of these is better than the others? Thanks![/QUOTE]That is what makes this interesting. Some guys want the 100 kg and some want the 40 kg. Expensive girls sometimes want to be treated like expensive girls and the poor ones want to be fucked hard or quickly. Maybe einstein could have come up with a formula for picking but for me, I would rather be out 17 dollars on a bad pick then 100's.
Are. Dos Gusmões, 712 - Santa Ifigênia had what I was looking for. At least 5 of the girls were short skinny 45-50 kg with fuck me eyes.
But, the rooms are bad, there is usually a wait, and the streets outside are not clean. Some drunk dude was laying on the street after being beat up.
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[QUOTE=Member#3137;2970517]What's the quality of girls in these prives? I went to Tangara last time I was in SP (October), but didn't find any good ones. Took a look and left. Any of these is better than the others? Thanks![/QUOTE]Yeah. These prives are getting to the "trash areas" of SP scene. I've only been to a few of the Santana prives once and the average girl are definitely below the Tangara / moema clinica girl. There was one slim young girl which is my preference. The rooms were not clean and most missing a bathroom. The girl service are below par to the clinica girls and the girls probably don't shower between guys given the majority of the sessions are 15-20 minutes. I personally wouldn't go again since I consider the clinicas the sweet spot in cost / benefit ratio. I was helping out the guy who was looking for cheaper sessions. I forgot the list the largest prive building with many floors with similar pricing (less than 100 r for 30 mins) and closer to the city center.
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[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2970735]
But, the rooms are bad[/QUOTE]When you say the rooms are bad, I guess in none of the places you mentioned the rooms are cleaned and have showers and air-conditioning?
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2970694]You're kidding right? Youre looking for quality at $17 USD a pop? Your other posts show u have coin. Id be wary of trolling the bottom.[/QUOTE]You never know my friend, sometimes gems are found in the most unexpected places.
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[QUOTE=TravelingJohn#2;2970735]That is what makes this interesting. Some guys want the 100 kg and some want the 40 kg. Expensive girls sometimes want to be treated like expensive girls and the poor ones want to be fucked hard or quickly. Maybe einstein could have come up with a formula for picking but for me, I would rather be out 17 dollars on a bad pick then 100's.
Are. Dos Gusmes, 712 - Santa Ifignia had what I was looking for. At least 5 of the girls were short skinny 45-50 kg with fuck me eyes.
But, the rooms are bad, there is usually a wait, and the streets outside are not clean. Some drunk dude was laying on the street after being beat up.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Seems the clinical in Moema strike a better cost / quality balance. Still, this might be an option for a day I'm feeling adventurous. Appreciate the anecdote!
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Anything like splove / mclass / clubmodel / private55 in Bogota?
Hello, for those that might be familiar with Bogota, are there any sites similar to splove / mclass / clubmodel / private55 there that features mid / high-end independents? I've found photoprepagos & mileroticos but they seem similar to photoacompanhantes here. I was wondering if there are better options. Thanks.
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15 Girl São Paulo / Rio Extravaganza
Think I posted this in pieces a bit ago, but as it's a bit quiet thought you might enjoy the whole thing. Got to meet the famous Axel Heyst as well!
Arrived SP in the AM so took a nap to catch up on sleep and ready myself for the onslaught. Didn't really want to wait till nighttime and don't love the clinica scene so decided to try 57 Friends and meetup with a fellow forum member we'll call T.
T and I hadn't met and he's not on ISG much but a great guy and we hung out together a lot. Though only a handful of girls at 57 they were all slim and pretty. It's a totally chill vibe. It's a narrow place of two connected rooms and we notice there is a pool table in the back. So we head back there to see about a game.
There's a couple older guys playing but they quickly offer it up so T and I grab two girls to play teams. Larissa and Bia. It's the real deal snooker style table with narrow pockets and impossibly small cue tips. Very little good pool is played, but we have great fun for several hours.
After a few hours, Larissa has to go to meet a prescheduled guy and hands me over to Carol. No problem. Carol is a tiny spinner with a very pretty face. We continue on with pool for a bit but then hit the room, me with Carol and T with Bia.
Carol is great in bed. A classic complete Brasileira with passionate kissing and BBBJ. A tiny little dynamo. Details escape me at this point but a really good session. I love Brasileiras and their attitude towards kissing and sex. And 57 Friends has become a new favorite for afternoon fun. And at only 300R a pop what’s not to like?
Of course the plan for the evening is the legendary Scandallo. We arrive around 830 and there are plenty of pretty girls but of course it's light by Scandallo standards this early. We are in no hurry, having already scratched the itch.
After cruising for while we get a bottle and a table. This is def the way to roll because not only are you king of the world but it's also cheaper than having drinks 1 by 1. They will hold your bottle for up to 6 months so it won't go to waste if you are a repeat customer or with buddies. A little later, forum member Axel joins us and we have a good time getting to know each other. Great guy.
Axel and a girl quickly lock up and look like long lost lovers. So it isn't long before they adjourn to the room. But T and I take it super slow and just enjoy the vibe and the girl parade as it fills up. Just two kings of the world. The band is stunningly good.
Eventually I do take a girl. 1200R/ HR. ($230 USD at the time) Super pretty. Little bit of a disappointment in the room as she does that fake sorta kinda a blowjob sorta with her hand. But the optics and fucking are good.
After hanging some more at Scandallo I decide to head over to Casarao which can be fun. It's def a late night club and packed body to body at 1 AM. There are a surprising number of hot girls there though I confess my beer goggles are top notch at 2 in the morning. And who doesn't love a good trifecta so let's find that third girl of the day!
It rather takes me a while but I eventually find my hottie Stephanie. And the pics the next morning don't lie. She really was hot. And she was a truly hard worker too. After two fucks earlier, I am not going to finish but that doesn't keep her from trying!
We go at it nonstop for 1. 5 hours and she literally blows me almost the whole time. We just went on and on. But no dice. Since we extended the room she has to go out in a towel and grab a guy who swipes my card for another half hour. $8. 60! Luv Casarao pricing after Scandallo. Great time and roll home at 4:30 AM.
Strangely I feel pretty rested after 5 hours sleep and will be ready to start the party again shortly. As I wasn't able to finish with the last two girls of the night I had a bit of pent up demand, so I headed to 57 Friends for a quickie.
Larissa was there and of course delighted to see me. I was hooking up again with T right after so I didn't waste time. We bought two drinks and chatted a bit but we were quickly off to the room. The rooms at 57 are modest but the baths remodeled and really clean and adequate for an hour.
Larissa is quite a nice surprise. She's a medium build black girl with long braids. But she's hiding a pretty great body under wraps. She has the perfect Brasileira ass connected to a small waist and great tits. And her BJ is on point. Really good. So much so that after 20 minutes of BJ and a couple positions I drop one in doggie in the condom which is rare. She just felt tooo good. (She is shockingly tight and had to ease onto me over a several second period only time all week).
T and I have some Picanha and a couple chopps (what they call draft beer) at nearby Bar do Juarez. Recommend. And then it's off to the races again.
(I am writing this next part belatedly so some detail is fuzzy.).
We head to Scandallo, but T and I don't like to pick too soon. Shopping the buffet as king of the world is at least half as much fun as the sex so we make sure to savor it and not pull the trigger too quickly.
I only vaguely remember meeting Michelle. Main thing I recall is we are face to face in the club and after bit she is lightly stroking my dick between us. I love when girls do that. So bold. And it feels great. With all my girls I've been doing preview DFK in the club. If they aren't up for some passion in the club then they may not be for me. And Michelle and I have great DFK and overall chemistry.
She is absolutely wonderful in the room. It pains me to say, but with ten girls since her I have lost a bit of the detail. But I remember she was great and Axel confirmed he'the had her before and thumbs up.
Of course it's late again when I finish with Michelle and I have a flight to Rio tomorrow so I don't attempt the trifecta and roll on home in the wee hours.
Now, you might think "Damn, that was a fine trip. Really hit it hard. " All true. But that was just the first part of the three part adventure. For this trip I've created what I call the girlfriend sandwich. That is, dine at the girl buffet, then spend a few days locked up with a girlfriend, then dine at the buffet again.
And the girlfriend in the middle of this sandwich is Seeking Arrangements girl Manu who lives in Rio. Met her a year ago in Rio and had an amazing time and have since flown her to So Paulo and Barcelona. Just an amazing girl and so affectionate. The consummate GF. So it's off to Rio I go!
I've chosen a nice five star hotel with a great rooftop pool and bar area, since Manu is joining me. Arriving at the hotel around 5, she is supposed to meet me there. And she's usually prompt for a Rio girl. But she's 2. 5 hours late! I should be pissed but when she runs in and hugs me hard enough to break my ribs and snuggles her head into my chest I melt. And it's just on 100% again.
We have absolutely the best time over the next 2. 5 days. Just straight up GF experience beyond the bedroom. We eat at great places and spend a lot of time at the pool despite the cool weather. Many beers and caipirinhas and much fucking was had. And that girl is a wizard in the bedroom. It's all bare of course which helps but her BJ is seriously on point she never fails to get the goods, even on days we double up. What a girl!
But the highlight of the trip was the helicopter ride. We took a private half hour ride ($375 US seems a steal) that includes the beaches and circling Christ the Redeemer. Omfg. Amazing. And she was over the moon. I love treating girls to experiences they would never otherwise have.
Our last night she kinda needs to get home and that works great. Because after picanha, two caipirinhas and fucking I let her go. A great girl in the rearview though I will def see her again. And this sets me up for a free extra night at the girl buffet in Rio, which was totally unplanned. And what a night of debauchery it is!
I start at 4 x4 with my wingman are. He's just finished a session and we chat for a while. Eventually I pull a beautiful girl with dirty blond hair but brown eyes and a great figure. She's a bit of a newbie in the bedroom and I get a good laugh trying to hand gesture harmonica and getting 69 instead. First world problems.
After 4 x4 we bounce to Casablanca. It doesn't have the best rep but we figure we will give it a go. Nice enough small club with lots of girls given the size. We settle in and just drink and browse a lot. Eventually I take a pretty but larger girl thinking she will be in the we-try-harder category. Nope. She under delivers big time. Only truly lame fuck of the trip. Plus they only have the one small dingy room. Least fave club of the trip.
And as if Manu (my Seeking girl) and Maite and Deborah are not enough, we rock on to Dolce Vida. It's hopping at 2 Am with lot of guys and girls drinking and considering who they going to bang. Eventually I lock into a cutie named Cebele. We have great chat and she's bubbly and fun.
I decide to take her home and bounce at 4 AM. She's a real wildcat and we have a ton of fun. I owe her a bit of money at the end and we have an adventure taxiing all over Rio at 530 trying to find an ATM. Just part of the adventure. I return to the hotel at 6:05 just as the breakfast buffet opens and walk right in. I can sleep when I'm dead.
So THAT was a wild ride with Manu all day and then the 3 boate 3 girls trifecta for dessert. Sometimes I go a bit crazy. And crazy can be very good. It was this time.
So now it's back to So Paulo for the other half of the buffet. Going to be a strict diet of Scandallo and Casarao for me. By now I've connected w some other ISG guys and it's a larger crew, mixed with their regulars and new girls we are finding.
Back at Scandallo, Brenda chats me up on the patio and she's vivacious and slim and darker like I prefer. After some good chat we hit the room and have a good time. By now my bar is so high that if it's not exceptional I don't remember it. She was very good and a nice girl but others have stood out more. No regrets.
In case you haven't noticed I like to take two or three girls a night. So it's back out into the crush to find my next love. Of course I do a lot of buffet shopping but eventually settle on a model tall and pretty girl who becomes my Boate wife a bit for a couple nights.
Her name is Lua and she is super lean and fit doing ballet. And a truly nice girl. We do very well in the room together. Very passionate and romantic. I will also give her extra credit for dancing with me. I dance like a fool when lit and she joins me right in front of the stage and we have a grand time.
Next night, Lua and I want to have dinner together. Honestly logistically it's easiest to just do that there at the club and the food is excellent. It's a lovely time and the salmon is some of the best I've had in years. As can be a problem when you know multiple girls there, Maria from earlier this year is eye fucking me while I have dinner with Lua. Hahaha. Oh well another time.
Tonight one of the guys has booked an upstairs booth so we can relax above the crush but still be a part of it. My girl Lua joins me and it's nice and casual to just be partying without any pressure. But to be honest she feels more like a buddy tonight where last night we would passionately make out in the club and tonight it's just pecks. I've learned over time to deal with this type of thing head on so I do.
I key into the translator that it seems our chemistry is gone and she is not romantic with me and should we find other partners. Well that does the trick because she keys in that she wants to be with me and plants some passionate DFK on me. We have great tongue chemistry and her kisses are wonderful.
Shortly, we are at the rail overlooking the action and I am crushed up against her, dick growing hard, with hands roaming. As it should be! She keys in "Do you want to fuck now or in a little bit". Well that is hard to say no to. And she adds "I want to cum twice". Ok Sexy's back on!
In the room it's another great time (and she does cum twice!) but as much as I like her, there is a rotating buffet of hotties and I don't really want to skip that. So as we are leaving the room, I am a bit direct again and say that I know she is working and it's ok if she wants to roam and I will do the same. I feel a bit bad but heck it's the best girl buffet in the world. I find it very hard to get locked up with only one.
So I roam a bit more but run into her again. It's nice to see her and she is enjoying the DJ so much. Just totally in the moment so I join in and we really do have fun. Epic show.
I want to find another girl but Lua and I were quite close so it feels a bit awkward. So why not bounce over to Casarao with one of the crew as a wing. Casarao is packed as usual at 2 and towards the front I find myself next to two cuties who are def working as a team. Priscilla, the experienced one, positions on my right and Sabrina, just barely 20, with braces, on my left. It's Sabrina's first day and honestly it is so endearing.
Priscilla drives the negotiation and I am honestly quite wary because duos are bi polar. Awesome or suck. We agree 500 each girl and I am quite clear on expectations and off we go. We have to wait like 20 minutes for a room which is not uncommon this time of night. But then it's on and it's spectacular. They deliver the true dupla. Both girls on BJ at the same time. One on balls the other shaft. Or side by side in a coordinated BJ sandwich. Sooo good. And when it's not that, one is BJ and other is DFK. Just mind blowing when a dupla is done right.
In the course of the session I fuck them both, with a condom change in between. Honestly fucking the little bird Sabrina in mish is heavenly. Most girls close their eyes. But she is full on liquid chocolate eye contact throughout. Loooove that. Almost blow a load it's so great but don't.
To finish I put them side by side masturbating. And Jack off on my knees. I feel a little bad because Priscilla is working hard but my eyes are 100% on Sabrina. She's got what Bluemoon and I call God Pussy. Like a work of art. And she's working it hard. It's so amazing I bless her with a load on the sheets. Ahhhh. Great session.
So now it's the final day and at this point you are surely thinking. Jesus what is wrong with this man? Has he not fucked enough? Well yes. Any man should be satisfied with 13 girls in the rearview, including two trifectas and a rare quad. And indeed I am beyond satisfied. But I am also an opportunist and I can't just leave hot girls unfucked as they await me mere miles away!
So I am again meeting up with the guys tonight at Scandallo. But damn I am totally smitten with Sabrina. So after I wake around 11 I text her and see if she will have lunch with me. She responds right away and it's on!
We go to a nice Italian place nearby. And then back to the room. She's worn her slutty Boate dress and heels and looks absolutely amazing. Lunch is a tad awkward as 20 year olds are not known to be conversationalists and of course she knows no english. We make do with my Porto and bounce to the hotel.
(Side note. Mercure hotels all seem to just ignore you when you bring girls. Because this is clearly a paid girl, based on how she's dressed, and there are three crew at the desk and no one even glances over. Same at all Mercures I've been to).
She's a little shy and quite light kisses at first. But once we get to grinding and some tits work she comes alive and eats my face. She's got a hot little body and god pussy. I spend prob 20 minutes on DATY and get lots of shivers and coos and one time think I was nearly there as she starts to squirm quite a lot; but damn couldn't quite rock her world. Def tried.
Then it's onto BJ and fucking and the usual. Fucking in mish is absolutely wonderful with her and the eye contact. But no dice shooting a load in mish with the condom. Eventually on my back with her attentively on balls I shoot out a really nice shot. And she's just a sweet girl. We had a truly nice and caring date and I send her on her way.
The crew is having a big fiesta at Scandallo tonight so that will be my last hurrah. I will likely only fuck one girl as I am just about fucked out. So I hang with the guys for quite a bit but then T and I go on patrol.
In the restaurant the girls often line up against the servers bar on the right as you come in. There aren't many there so T and I co-opt it and this is the perfect place to watch girls parade in. I've clearly seen 100+ girls so far tonight but all of a sudden one lights me up that total fireworks thing. Damn. In love from minute 1.
She takes a table with a friend and we wait a bit but I don't want to move on and lose her so I go over and introduce myself. Nathali is gorgeous in person and bubbly and she is glad I've sought her out. We agree she will come find me in a bit so me and T return to the booth we have with the other guys in the club area.
One of the guys has a little Japa hottie he's been shacking up with and her friend Sarah is with her. They make some space for me to sit next to Sarah and it's clear she has designs on me or my wallet or both.
We honestly have the best time. She has pretty good English, a banging body and just a hair off my type. As we chat away Nathali shows at the edge of the booth and casually eye fucks me. Damn I want that girl bad; but here I am locked up with Sarah who is super sweet and def running her game.
It would be rude to ditch Sarah particularly given her full court press. Because shortly we are making out. And when just chatting she is casually rubbing my dick. I mean like constantly for a half hour. And Nathali keeps coming over and positioning and eye fucking me a bit. She's def still interested.
Eventually I take Sarah to the room and it's really good. She reminds me of Manu. Very girlfriendy. You feel like a million bucks with her so no regrets. And we BJ and fuck forever but yep the old soldier is fading. We call it at the 52 minute mark and shower up. Oh well. Was a great time and really enjoyed her.
As we are leaving the room I pop a precautionary Cialis 10 as I hadn't today and started flagging with Sarah. You just never know what might come your way!
I head back to the booth but it's deserted with the guys all in rooms or already taken a girl to their hotel. It's maybe midnight or 12:30. I hang for a bit to see if Sarah is coming back and guess who shows up a minute later. Nathali! Omfg that girl is fire! I don't want to run into Sarah so I take Nathali by the hand and go to the patio (unfortunately going right past Sarah on the way!
On the patio I confirm she is my dream girl. The chemistry is amazing. Her eyes glisten as she looks deeply into mine. He smile comes easily and is dazzling. And then of course DFK to die for. And I discover her tits are clearly gorgeous Dee cup. Finest of the trip. T had called this from afar when I first pointed her out, but I was so enamored with her face I didn't notice till now. Def my girl 💯.
Up in the room she does not disappoint. She sheds her clothes quickly and is on the bed dancing naked before I've undone a button. Then she's in Quattro with her ass facing me. Twerking her pussy at me. This girl is a fucking wildcat!
It really doesn't slow down from there. Normally I am a take it slow GFE guy but Nathali is delivering rockstar PSE and who am I to complain. It's sweaty aggressive sex and kissing and maybe that is what I needed. Because maybe only 20 minutes in I blow a load. Fucking magician. And a stunner to me. Dream girl.
And so it's Nathali that closes out the trip with a bang. 15 girls including 14 new. Repeated with 3 of them (Manu, Lua, Sabrina). Three trifectas and one quad.
Recommend 57 Friends for easygoing daytime fun alternative to the clinicas. Scandallo rules of course but at a price. And Casarao the late-night middle ground. Three very different places that all deliver in their own way. And of course Manu delivering the true and complete GFE in an overnight and activities way. Just a top notch trip!
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2971446]Think I posted this in pieces a bit ago...[/QUOTE]Yes, you did post the same thing one month ago.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2971446]Think I posted this in pieces a bit ago, but as it's a bit quiet thought you might enjoy the whole thing. Got to meet the famous Axel Heyst as well!
Arrived SP in the AM so took a nap to catch up on sleep and ready myself for the onslaught. Didn't really want to wait till nighttime and don't love the clinica scene so decided to try 57 Friends and meetup with a fellow forum member we'll call T.
T and I hadn't met and he's not on ISG much but a great guy and we hung out together a lot. Though only a handful of girls at 57 they were all slim and pretty. It's a totally chill vibe. It's a narrow place of two connected rooms and we notice there is a pool table in the back. So we head back there to see about a game.
There's a couple older guys playing but they quickly offer it up so T and I grab two girls to play teams. Larissa and Bia. It's the real deal snooker style table with narrow pockets and impossibly small cue tips. Very little good pool is played, but we have great fun for several hours.
After a few hours, Larissa has to go to meet a prescheduled guy and hands me over to Carol. No problem. Carol is a tiny spinner with a very pretty face. We continue on with pool for a bit but then hit the room, me with Carol and T with Bia.
Carol is great in bed. A classic complete Brasileira with passionate kissing and BBBJ. A tiny little dynamo. Details escape me at this point but a really good session. I love Brasileiras and their attitude towards kissing and sex. And 57 Friends has become a new favorite for afternoon fun. And at only 300R a pop whats not to like?
Of course the plan for the evening is the legendary Scandallo. We arrive around 830 and there are plenty of pretty girls but of course it's light by Scandallo standards this early. We are in no hurry, having already scratched the itch.
After cruising for while we get a bottle and a table. This is def the way to roll because not only are you king of the world but it's also cheaper than having drinks 1 by 1. They will hold your bottle for up to 6 months so it won't go to waste if you are a repeat customer or with buddies. A little later, forum member Axel joins us and we have a good time getting to know each other. Great guy.
Axel and a girl quickly lock up and look like long lost lovers. So it isn't long before they adjourn to the room. But T and I take it super slow and just enjoy the vibe and the girl parade as it fills up. Just two kings of the world. The band is stunningly good.
Eventually I do take a girl. 1200R/ HR. ($230 USD at the time) Super pretty. Little bit of a disappointment in the room as she does that fake sorta kinda a blowjob sorta with her hand. But the optics and fucking are good.
After hanging some more at Scandallo I decide to head over to Casarao which can be fun. It's def a late night club and packed body to body at 1 AM. There are a surprising number of hot girls there though I confess my beer goggles are top notch at 2 in the morning. And who doesn't love a good trifecta so let's find that third girl of the day!
It rather takes me a while but I eventually find my hottie Stephanie. And the pics the next morning don't lie. She really was hot. And she was a truly hard worker too. After two fucks earlier, I am not going to finish but that doesn't keep her from trying!
We go at it nonstop for 1. 5 hours and she literally blows me almost the whole time. We just went on and on. But no dice. Since we extended the room she has to go out in a towel and grab a guy who swipes my card for another half hour. $8. 60! Luv Casarao pricing after Scandallo. Great time and roll home at 4:30 AM.
Strangely I feel pretty rested after 5 hours sleep and will be ready to start the party again shortly. As I wasn't able to finish with the last two girls of the night I had a bit of pent up demand, so I headed to 57 Friends for a quickie.
Larissa was there and of course delighted to see me. I was hooking up again with T right after so I didn't waste time. We bought two drinks and chatted a bit but we were quickly off to the room. The rooms at 57 are modest but the baths remodeled and really clean and adequate for an hour.
Larissa is quite a nice surprise. She's a medium build black girl with long braids. But she's hiding a pretty great body under wraps. She has the perfect Brasileira ass connected to a small waist and great tits. And her BJ is on point. Really good. So much so that after 20 minutes of BJ and a couple positions I drop one in doggie in the condom which is rare. She just felt tooo good. (She is shockingly tight and had to ease onto me over a several second period only time all week).
T and I have some Picanha and a couple chopps (what they call draft beer) at nearby Bar do Juarez. Recommend. And then it's off to the races again.
(I am writing this next part belatedly so some detail is fuzzy.).
We head to Scandallo, but T and I don't like to pick too soon. Shopping the buffet as king of the world is at least half as much fun as the sex so we make sure to savor it and not pull the trigger too quickly.
I only vaguely remember meeting Michelle. Main thing I recall is we are face to face in the club and after bit she is lightly stroking my dick between us. I love when girls do that. So bold. And it feels great. With all my girls I've been doing preview DFK in the club. If they aren't up for some passion in the club then they may not be for me. And Michelle and I have great DFK and overall chemistry.
She is absolutely wonderful in the room. It pains me to say, but with ten girls since her I have lost a bit of the detail. But I remember she was great and Axel confirmed he'the had her before and thumbs up.
Of course it's late again when I finish with Michelle and I have a flight to Rio tomorrow so I don't attempt the trifecta and roll on home in the wee hours.
Now, you might think "Damn, that was a fine trip. Really hit it hard. " All true. But that was just the first part of the three part adventure. For this trip I've created what I call the girlfriend sandwich. That is, dine at the girl buffet, then spend a few days locked up with a girlfriend, then dine at the buffet again.
And the girlfriend in the middle of this sandwich is Seeking Arrangements girl Manu who lives in Rio. Met her a year ago in Rio and had an amazing time and have since flown her to So Paulo and Barcelona. Just an amazing girl and so affectionate. The consummate GF. So it's off to Rio I go!
I've chosen a nice five star hotel with a great rooftop pool and bar area, since Manu is joining me. Arriving at the hotel around 5, she is supposed to meet me there. And she's usually prompt for a Rio girl. But she's 2. 5 hours late! I should be pissed but when she runs in and hugs me hard enough to break my ribs and snuggles her head into my chest I melt. And it's just on 100% again.
We have absolutely the best time over the next 2. 5 days. Just straight up GF experience beyond the bedroom. We eat at great places and spend a lot of time at the pool despite the cool weather. Many beers and caipirinhas and much fucking was had. And that girl is a wizard in the bedroom. It's all bare of course which helps but her BJ is seriously on point she never fails to get the goods, even on days we double up. What a girl!
But the highlight of the trip was the helicopter ride. We took a private half hour ride ($375 US seems a steal) that includes the beaches and circling Christ the Redeemer. Omfg. Amazing. And she was over the moon. I love treating girls to experiences they would never otherwise have.
Our last night she kinda needs to get home and that works great. Because after picanha, two caipirinhas and fucking I let her go. A great girl in the rearview though I will def see her again. And this sets me up for a free extra night at the girl buffet in Rio, which was totally unplanned. And what a night of debauchery it is!
I start at 4 x4 with my wingman are. He's just finished a session and we chat for a while. Eventually I pull a beautiful girl with dirty blond hair but brown eyes and a great figure. She's a bit of a newbie in the bedroom and I get a good laugh trying to hand gesture harmonica and getting 69 instead. First world problems.
After 4 x4 we bounce to Casablanca. It doesn't have the best rep but we figure we will give it a go. Nice enough small club with lots of girls given the size. We settle in and just drink and browse a lot. Eventually I take a pretty but larger girl thinking she will be in the we-try-harder category. Nope. She under delivers big time. Only truly lame fuck of the trip. Plus they only have the one small dingy room. Least fave club of the trip.
And as if Manu (my Seeking girl) and Maite and Deborah are not enough, we rock on to Dolce Vida. It's hopping at 2 Am with lot of guys and girls drinking and considering who they going to bang. Eventually I lock into a cutie named Cebele. We have great chat and she's bubbly and fun.
I decide to take her home and bounce at 4 AM. She's a real wildcat and we have a ton of fun. I owe her a bit of money at the end and we have an adventure taxiing all over Rio at 530 trying to find an ATM. Just part of the adventure. I return to the hotel at 6:05 just as the breakfast buffet opens and walk right in. I can sleep when I'm dead.
So THAT was a wild ride with Manu all day and then the 3 boate 3 girls trifecta for dessert. Sometimes I go a bit crazy. And crazy can be very good. It was this time.
So now it's back to So Paulo for the other half of the buffet. Going to be a strict diet of Scandallo and Casarao for me. By now I've connected w some other ISG guys and it's a larger crew, mixed with their regulars and new girls we are finding.
Back at Scandallo, Brenda chats me up on the patio and she's vivacious and slim and darker like I prefer. After some good chat we hit the room and have a good time. By now my bar is so high that if it's not exceptional I don't remember it. She was very good and a nice girl but others have stood out more. No regrets.
In case you haven't noticed I like to take two or three girls a night. So it's back out into the crush to find my next love. Of course I do a lot of buffet shopping but eventually settle on a model tall and pretty girl who becomes my Boate wife a bit for a couple nights.
Her name is Lua and she is super lean and fit doing ballet. And a truly nice girl. We do very well in the room together. Very passionate and romantic. I will also give her extra credit for dancing with me. I dance like a fool when lit and she joins me right in front of the stage and we have a grand time.
Next night, Lua and I want to have dinner together. Honestly logistically it's easiest to just do that there at the club and the food is excellent. It's a lovely time and the salmon is some of the best I've had in years. As can be a problem when you know multiple girls there, Maria from earlier this year is eye fucking me while I have dinner with Lua. Hahaha. Oh well another time.
Tonight one of the guys has booked an upstairs booth so we can relax above the crush but still be a part of it. My girl Lua joins me and it's nice and casual to just be partying without any pressure. But to be honest she feels more like a buddy tonight where last night we would passionately make out in the club and tonight it's just pecks. I've learned over time to deal with this type of thing head on so I do.
I key into the translator that it seems our chemistry is gone and she is not romantic with me and should we find other partners. Well that does the trick because she keys in that she wants to be with me and plants some passionate DFK on me. We have great tongue chemistry and her kisses are wonderful.
Shortly, we are at the rail overlooking the action and I am crushed up against her, dick growing hard, with hands roaming. As it should be! She keys in "Do you want to fuck now or in a little bit". Well that is hard to say no to. And she adds "I want to cum twice". Ok Sexy's back on!
In the room it's another great time (and she does cum twice!) but as much as I like her, there is a rotating buffet of hotties and I don't really want to skip that. So as we are leaving the room, I am a bit direct again and say that I know she is working and it's ok if she wants to roam and I will do the same. I feel a bit bad but heck it's the best girl buffet in the world. I find it very hard to get locked up with only one.
So I roam a bit more but run into her again. It's nice to see her and she is enjoying the DJ so much. Just totally in the moment so I join in and we really do have fun. Epic show.
I want to find another girl but Lua and I were quite close so it feels a bit awkward. So why not bounce over to Casarao with one of the crew as a wing. Casarao is packed as usual at 2 and towards the front I find myself next to two cuties who are def working as a team. Priscilla, the experienced one, positions on my right and Sabrina, just barely 20, with braces, on my left. It's Sabrina's first day and honestly it is so endearing.
Priscilla drives the negotiation and I am honestly quite wary because duos are bi polar. Awesome or suck. We agree 500 each girl and I am quite clear on expectations and off we go. We have to wait like 20 minutes for a room which is not uncommon this time of night. But then it's on and it's spectacular. They deliver the true dupla. Both girls on BJ at the same time. One on balls the other shaft. Or side by side in a coordinated BJ sandwich. Sooo good. And when it's not that, one is BJ and other is DFK. Just mind blowing when a dupla is done right.
In the course of the session I fuck them both, with a condom change in between. Honestly fucking the little bird Sabrina in mish is heavenly. Most girls close their eyes. But she is full on liquid chocolate eye contact throughout. Loooove that. Almost blow a load it's so great but don't.
To finish I put them side by side masturbating. And Jack off on my knees. I feel a little bad because Priscilla is working hard but my eyes are 100% on Sabrina. She's got what Bluemoon and I call God Pussy. Like a work of art. And she's working it hard. It's so amazing I bless her with a load on the sheets. Ahhhh. Great session.
So now it's the final day and at this point you are surely thinking. Jesus what is wrong with this man? Has he not fucked enough? Well yes. Any man should be satisfied with 13 girls in the rearview, including two trifectas and a rare quad. And indeed I am beyond satisfied. But I am also an opportunist and I can't just leave hot girls unfucked as they await me mere miles away!
So I am again meeting up with the guys tonight at Scandallo. But damn I am totally smitten with Sabrina. So after I wake around 11 I text her and see if she will have lunch with me. She responds right away and it's on!
We go to a nice Italian place nearby. And then back to the room. She's worn her slutty Boate dress and heels and looks absolutely amazing. Lunch is a tad awkward as 20 year olds are not known to be conversationalists and of course she knows no english. We make do with my Porto and bounce to the hotel.
(Side note. Mercure hotels all seem to just ignore you when you bring girls. Because this is clearly a paid girl, based on how she's dressed, and there are three crew at the desk and no one even glances over. Same at all Mercures I've been to).
She's a little shy and quite light kisses at first. But once we get to grinding and some tits work she comes alive and eats my face. She's got a hot little body and god pussy. I spend prob 20 minutes on DATY and get lots of shivers and coos and one time think I was nearly there as she starts to squirm quite a lot; but damn couldn't quite rock her world. Def tried.
Then it's onto BJ and fucking and the usual. Fucking in mish is absolutely wonderful with her and the eye contact. But no dice shooting a load in mish with the condom. Eventually on my back with her attentively on balls I shoot out a really nice shot. And she's just a sweet girl. We had a truly nice and caring date and I send her on her way.
The crew is having a big fiesta at Scandallo tonight so that will be my last hurrah. I will likely only fuck one girl as I am just about fucked out. So I hang with the guys for quite a bit but then T and I go on patrol.
In the restaurant the girls often line up against the servers bar on the right as you come in. There aren't many there so T and I co-opt it and this is the perfect place to watch girls parade in. I've clearly seen 100+ girls so far tonight but all of a sudden one lights me up that total fireworks thing. Damn. In love from minute 1.
She takes a table with a friend and we wait a bit but I don't want to move on and lose her so I go over and introduce myself. Nathali is gorgeous in person and bubbly and she is glad I've sought her out. We agree she will come find me in a bit so me and T return to the booth we have with the other guys in the club area.
One of the guys has a little Japa hottie he's been shacking up with and her friend Sarah is with her. They make some space for me to sit next to Sarah and it's clear she has designs on me or my wallet or both.
We honestly have the best time. She has pretty good English, a banging body and just a hair off my type. As we chat away Nathali shows at the edge of the booth and casually eye fucks me. Damn I want that girl bad; but here I am locked up with Sarah who is super sweet and def running her game.
It would be rude to ditch Sarah particularly given her full court press. Because shortly we are making out. And when just chatting she is casually rubbing my dick. I mean like constantly for a half hour. And Nathali keeps coming over and positioning and eye fucking me a bit. She's def still interested.
Eventually I take Sarah to the room and it's really good. She reminds me of Manu. Very girlfriendy. You feel like a million bucks with her so no regrets. And we BJ and fuck forever but yep the old soldier is fading. We call it at the 52 minute mark and shower up. Oh well. Was a great time and really enjoyed her.
As we are leaving the room I pop a precautionary Cialis 10 as I hadn't today and started flagging with Sarah. You just never know what might come your way!
I head back to the booth but it's deserted with the guys all in rooms or already taken a girl to their hotel. It's maybe midnight or 12:30. I hang for a bit to see if Sarah is coming back and guess who shows up a minute later. Nathali! Omfg that girl is fire! I don't want to run into Sarah so I take Nathali by the hand and go to the patio (unfortunately going right past Sarah on the way!
On the patio I confirm she is my dream girl. The chemistry is amazing. Her eyes glisten as she looks deeply into mine. He smile comes easily and is dazzling. And then of course DFK to die for. And I discover her tits are clearly gorgeous Dee cup. Finest of the trip. T had called this from afar when I first pointed her out, but I was so enamored with her face I didn't notice till now. Def my girl 💯.
Up in the room she does not disappoint. She sheds her clothes quickly and is on the bed dancing naked before I've undone a button. Then she's in Quattro with her ass facing me. Twerking her pussy at me. This girl is a fucking wildcat!
It really doesn't slow down from there. Normally I am a take it slow GFE guy but Nathali is delivering rockstar PSE and who am I to complain. It's sweaty aggressive sex and kissing and maybe that is what I needed. Because maybe only 20 minutes in I blow a load. Fucking magician. And a stunner to me. Dream girl.
And so it's Nathali that closes out the trip with a bang. 15 girls including 14 new. Repeated with 3 of them (Manu, Lua, Sabrina). Three trifectas and one quad.
Recommend 57 Friends for easygoing daytime fun alternative to the clinicas. Scandallo rules of course but at a price. And Casarao the late-night middle ground. Three very different places that all deliver in their own way. And of course Manu delivering the true and complete GFE in an overnight and activities way. Just a top notch trip![/QUOTE]
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Planned trip the Week of January 13th.
I will be visiting So Paulo during the week of January 13th and wanted to check if anyone is planning to be there that week. It would be great to connect and visit some fine establishments. Please send me a private message, and I will share my contact information.
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Pics will help
Yes, I agree. When reports sound like heaven, pics are needed to back them.
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Excellent FR Steve!
Hey Steve, just read your FR for SP and damn man I want to give you props. Tried to send a PM but your box is full. I haven't been back to SP since May 2023 and was planning on going back this March. I mostly did Casarao and online from Photoacompa. The one time I went to Scandello I got a bit overwhelmed.
Just wanted to ask what you usually were paying the girls there. I remember taking one girl for R$800 but she wouldn't do BBBJ. Another girl was asking for R$1500 and R$3000 if I wanted to take her to my hotel.
What would you say is an acceptable rate now for the girls in Scandello and did you negotiate for any extras like BBBJ or did it happen naturally? Thanks again for awesome FR.
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[QUOTE=Zeyto;2972660]Hey Steve, just read your FR for SP and damn man I want to give you props. Tried to send a PM but your box is full. I haven't been back to SP since May 2023 and was planning on going back this March. I mostly did Casarao and online from Photoacompa. The one time I went to Scandello I got a bit overwhelmed.
Just wanted to ask what you usually were paying the girls there. I remember taking one girl for R$800 but she wouldn't do BBBJ. Another girl was asking for R$1500 and R$3000 if I wanted to take her to my hotel.
What would you say is an acceptable rate now for the girls in Scandello and did you negotiate for any extras like BBBJ or did it happen naturally? Thanks again for awesome FR.[/QUOTE]My girls at Scandallo who were uniformly hot asked 1200 and 1000. I know some other guys were quoted 1500. But the girl will likely take 1200.
Yes rule of thumb for overnight is 2 x the hourly price. If you exit your girl may ask you to pay her tab which could be another 300+. Some guys just pay it. Others negotiate that up front.
Only had one Scan girl ever try to CBJ me. Rest hve always been BBBJ. Didnt even discuss up front at all this trip. Just took girls that I had a great vibe with and let it flow. If she tries to CBG you in the room then I'the wave her off. It's rare that a girl won't acquiesce if they fear their payday is in jeopardy. But of course the best girls never even try that lame scam.
Cleared my inbox if you want to private chat.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2972672]My girls at Scandallo who were uniformly hot asked 1200 and 1000. I know some other guys were quoted 1500. But the girl will likely take 1200.
Yes rule of thumb for overnight is 2 x the hourly price. If you exit your girl may ask you to pay her tab which could be another 300+. Some guys just pay it. Others negotiate that up front.
Only had one Scan girl ever try to CBJ me. Rest hve always been BBBJ. Didnt even discuss up front at all this trip. Just took girls that I had a great vibe with and let it flow. If she tries to CBG you in the room then I'the wave her off. It's rare that a girl won't acquiesce if they fear their payday is in jeopardy. But of course the best girls never even try that lame scam.
Cleared my inbox if you want to private chat.[/QUOTE]Hey Steve, thanks for the response. , will definitely help when I hit SP and Rio later in March. Will also send some PMs if I got anymore questions. About the rooms in Scandello, do you have to get a new one every time you go up with a girl or is there an option to get one there for the night?
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No Long Term Rooms
[QUOTE=Zeyto;2973940]Hey Steve, thanks for the response. , will definitely help when I hit SP and Rio later in March. Will also send some PMs if I got anymore questions. About the rooms in Scandello, do you have to get a new one every time you go up with a girl or is there an option to get one there for the night?[/QUOTE]Rooms are hourly. 250 R I think. No option for longer term discount. So just get an hour each time you take a girl.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2973952]Rooms are hourly. 250 R I think. No option for longer term discount. So just get an hour each time you take a girl.[/QUOTE]Room rates are 300 r per hour and if you go over they just charge you for the time that was extra but they don't give you a discount if you don't use the full hour. So set a timer when you enter the room.
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Long term rooms
[QUOTE=Zeyto;2973940]Hey Steve, thanks for the response. , will definitely help when I hit SP and Rio later in March. Will also send some PMs if I got anymore questions. About the rooms in Scandello, do you have to get a new one every time you go up with a girl or is there an option to get one there for the night?[/QUOTE]You can keep the room but why would you? Do what you want as long as you want then go downstairs for the next batch. The girls have their stuff in a mobile suitcase and you just need yourself and enough cash. Rooms are paid by the hour and as they have quite often room scarcity there is no incentive for any discount. Scandallo is a well oiled money making machine. If you go for a party the rooms have food delivery windows like prison cells precisely for that purpose.
FA.
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Steve the master
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2972008]Yes, I agree. When reports sound like heaven, pics are needed to back them.[/QUOTE]Steve is genuine, trust me. Learn from the master!
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Anyone in SP Jan 23 - Jan29?
I'll be doing another visit to SP between 1/23-1/29, if anyone's there at the same time, send me a message so we can share a beer and war stories.
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In search of nuru massage on photoacompanhantes: the experience
I set out to try something different for my end of year adventure. I was interested in the elusive professional nuru massage (with a full service ending), but also was into risk taking adventure of photoacompanhantes. I was prepared to get scammed if need be, for the sake of science. I prepared my list of prospects ahead of time and followed it to the letter. Out of 5 prospects, I ended up meeting 3, summary experience below. I had no prior intel on any of them. Of the ones I did not meet, one was very vague about her offerings, another looked very different from her ad after I found her phone listed elsewhere.
Amanda: [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/massagens-eroticas-mulheres/sao-paulo/vila-mariana/classy-masseuse-for-demanding-men-exotic-tantra-id-ttz9d[/URL] . Speaks decent English, photos are about 10 years old, but its her alright. Her tits have remained nicely perky with age. Efficient communication and easy scheduling. She works at a shared space in Jardins. Excellent and thorough mixed massage, maybe the best of this kind I ever had. Lasted a full 45-50 min. I actually repeated with her because of the massage. She can't take dick though, so FS was just alright. Total damage was 450/ h.
Suzy Karoline: [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/massagens-eroticas-mulheres/sao-paulo/massagista-sensual-e-carinhosa-possuo-local-id-9qzbn[/URL] ; [URL]https://euterapeuta.com.br/suzy.karoline[/URL] ; [URL]https://www.ellasmassagistas.com.br/model/suzy-massagista/[/URL] . Responded extremely fast to every inquiry, which made me suspicious, but I was determined to follow through. She works in a nice location and clean space in Brooklin area. Her quote for massage plus FS was 600, which I thought was steep, but made me hopeful (like a sucker) for an out of this world experience. Her looks really caught me off guard, she was the same person in the pics, but a good 200 lb heavier than her already full figure. Really, really fat! I though of walking away, but dreamt all that weight could perhaps work magic on my back. Massage was crap, just her rubbing her huge titties on my back and legs for 30 min, and breathing moist air on my ears every 2 min or so. Didn't do anything for me at all. On the flip, she went for a surprisingly good BJ, I was afraid little Jon wasn't going to cooperate, but God works in mysterious ways I guess. The redeeming feature about this session is that the lady has a very strong sex drive and you can do all kinds of stuff with her. I actually learned a few new moves to pleasure a a plus size woman. The sex was quite enjoyable, but the rate she charged me was way out of touch with reality.
Talita Freitas: [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/massagens-eroticas-mulheres/sao-paulo/bela-vista/voce-merece-uma-massagem-de-alto-nivel-e-com-final-feliz-id-s2g3j[/URL] ; [URL]https://x.com/guiamassagista/status/1856798957298446816?mx=2[/URL] . My lowest expectation was with this one based on her too good to be true looks, typical of scam stock photos. She was available on Christmas day, so an easy call. A very sultry lady, and the only one who actually ended up looking exactly like the pictures. She seems to work from her live-in apartment in Bela Vista, clean and organized. Also quoted 600 for all inclusive. Very good massage, but only lasted all of 10 min. On the flip, she went straight for BJ, which lasted only 1 min. I was determined to get my money's worth so set out to stretch the main event as long as I could. To her credit, she had good stamina, and was participatory and responsive. Ended up being a pretty good sensual semi-GFE session (limited DFK). She seemed to really enjoy herself and was prodding me to continue even after I emptied my tank. In any other country, this would have been a great session, but in Brazil, it was lower mid tier session.
The experiences made me appreciate the value I get from a clinica like Anavrin, where basic nuru is standard. Anavrin experience to follow.
Happy mongering!
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End of year Anavrin experience
As stated in my previous post, I had an unusual itch for nuru to accompany my shagging activities. Anavrin is the only clinica I am aware of where some nuru, or nuru-adjascent massage is standard. I did my homework on gp-guia and prepared a list of prospects based on my needs: Monique, Lauana, Luna, and Aline. I met all of them, some more than once. It was also nice that the place was open on both Christmas eve and new year's eve when most other places were closed.
Monique: Oozing sexuality everywhere, eyes, titties, ass, attitude. She was built for this. Instantly reminded me of why I travel all over, but always keep coming back to Brazil. Above average massage, high sex drive, orgasmic, excellent personality, with a decent command of basic English. I had to fight hard to resist the temptation to exchange phone #s, because it would be easy to 'fall in love' with this one and end up buying her an apartment and a car. I repeated with her, excellent both times.
Lauana; Playful lady with the looks that remind me of an old flame. Likes sex, very good performance.
Luna; The star of the show, high energy, passionate GFE, with an extreme level of sex drive and stamina. By far one of the best sessions I have had in Brazil, or anywhere. Not recommended if you have a heart condition. Outstanding service, needless to say I repeated. Speaks good English.
Aline: Tall, skinny, long legs. Met on new year's eve. This started out as a cordial, but more professional interaction, no instant fire I experienced with the others. Good massage skill, very good BJ skill. The session somehow evolved into the most sensual GFE of the trip, we ended up having one of those unscripted high level love-making connections where you forget you are in a pay for play session. Two bodies in a perfect oneness of sin, like winning the sexual mega lotto. Excellent IOP. What a way to close the year!
Damage is 350/ h, new location is much better than the old apartment building.
I love Brazil!
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Bringing girls over
I know there's a lot of posts about 'chica friendly hotels'.
But has anyone rented just like a whole apartment on airbnb and brought someone over from photoacompanhantes?
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I rented an airbnb near the metro station Moema, no problems bringing girls up, but I found the girls on seeking. It was a high rise with a front desk. Just met them out front and walked by no problem.
[QUOTE=Raul69;2974724]I know there's a lot of posts about 'chica friendly hotels'.
But has anyone rented just like a whole apartment on airbnb and brought someone over from photoacompanhantes?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Anaggie;2974122]Room rates are 300 r per hour and if you go over they just charge you for the time that was extra but they don't give you a discount if you don't use the full hour. So set a timer when you enter the room.[/QUOTE]+1. If you don't want to go over the 1 HR then you better set an timer as Anaggie suggested because the house is not going to remind you with a phone call like many places do.
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[QUOTE=Lalabo;2975154]+1. If you don't want to go over the 1 HR then you better set an timer as Anaggie suggested because the house is not going to remind you with a phone call like many places do.[/QUOTE]This must be some new hotel policy because in the past whenever I have gone into overtime with a Scandallo girl, I always received a call and on a few rare occasions I even received 2 calls, but I was never charged extra. I will keep in mind what you and Anaggie are reporting. If this over time charge happens to me, it will have an effect my preference for in-house over take away.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2972672]If you exit your girl may ask you to pay her tab which could be another 300+. Some guys just pay it. Others negotiate that up front.[/QUOTE]Before existing, you have to settle her card too if you are taking the girl out for the night. You don't have a choice on this, so you better enquire about the dues she has on her card before committing for overnight. Otherwise, you will end of paying lot more that what you thought the overnight deal was. Girls that come occasionally tend to pay 300 to get in so you going be on that hook for that plus any think she consumed in the club (some girls consume a lot hoping some sucker would pay it with overnight deal). I had a girl that had 550 reals on her card, and I renegotiated her rate by reducing it by 450. It may be too late for any renegotiation if you wait until you are at counter settling the bill.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2972672]If you exit your girl may ask you to pay her tab which could be another 300+. Some guys just pay it. Others negotiate that up front.[/QUOTE]Before existing, you have to settle her card too if you are taking the girl out for the night. You don't have a choice on this, so you better enquire about the dues she has on her card before committing for overnight. Otherwise, you will end of paying lot more that what you thought the overnight deal was. Girls that come occasionally tend to pay 300 to get in so you going be on that hook for that plus any think she consumed in the club (some girls consume a lot hoping some sucker would pay it as part of overnight deal). I had a girl that had 550 reals on her card, and I renegotiated her rate by reducing it by 450. It may be too late for any renegotiation if you wait until you are at counter settling the bill.
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So what's the pro forma financials of the average customer at scandallo?
Whats the balance sheet, and the monthly cash flow statement, and what is the legal background ie, % nationality, industry, criminal / non criminal, etc.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2975154]+1. If you don't want to go over the 1 HR then you better set an timer as Anaggie suggested because the house is not going to remind you with a phone call like many places do.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2975170]This must be some new hotel policy because in the past whenever I have gone into overtime with a Scandallo girl, I always received a call and on a few rare occasions I even received 2 calls, but I was never charged extra. I will keep in mind what you and Anaggie are reporting. If this over time charge happens to me, it will have an effect my preference for in-house over take away.[/QUOTE]I did not get any call but were charged accordingly. The overtime is a good deal any way you count it.
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[QUOTE=Zeyto;2973940] About the rooms in Scandello, do you have to get a new one every time you go up with a girl or is there an option to get one there for the night?[/QUOTE]This is my one huge gripe with Scandallo. Completely understand and appreciate the premium venue that it is etc. And you only get what you pay for, fair enough. More than happy to pay the cover charge and the rates the girls are asking there, as cream of the crop, and I see the value.
However, the room charge being 30% of the girl fee (average are $1000 p / h) seems a bit excessive. The inability to book a longer term room (for several hours or overnight) for a discount is annoying. I once took two girls up for a threesome and they charged me R600 for some reason, even though I'm still only using one room?
As I'm not in SP very often, and to maximise the experience, I enjoy going up with one, coming down feeling great, hunting for the next, and going up again. The room pricing structure at Scandallo unfortunately makes this sort of escapade prohibitively expensive.
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Room Rates
[QUOTE=Jbob084;2975552]This is my one huge gripe with Scandallo. Completely understand and appreciate the premium venue that it is etc. And you only get what you pay for, fair enough. More than happy to pay the cover charge and the rates the girls are asking there, as cream of the crop, and I see the value.
However, the room charge being 30% of the girl fee (average are $1000 p / h) seems a bit excessive. The inability to book a longer term room (for several hours or overnight) for a discount is annoying. I once took two girls up for a threesome and they charged me R600 for some reason, even though I'm still only using one room?
As I'm not in SP very often, and to maximise the experience, I enjoy going up with one, coming down feeling great, hunting for the next, and going up again. The room pricing structure at Scandallo unfortunately makes this sort of escapade prohibitively expensive.[/QUOTE]Maybe they need to call it a "barfine" and not a room charge?
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2971446]Think I posted this in pieces a bit ago, but as it's a bit quiet thought you might enjoy the whole thing. [/QUOTE]I read most of Steve's reports. In general, colorful (some other poster referred to them as sounding like heaven) reports tend to invite skepticism and Steve's reports definitely fall into that category. I recently met him in Brazil, and I am the wingman 'are' he mentioned in his report. I expected a huge discount (the amount of bullshit one has in their reports) when I met him, but to my disappointment I saw none. He is exactly same as you think he would be if you believe his reports. I know it's hard to believe, but that's my assessment of him based on mongering together with him almost for a week in Rio and SP.
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After reading few of the posters that expressed skepticism about Steve's recent report and upon bit more consideration, I too am putting back just enough skepticism to question about all the activities Steve says he partakes with the girls between closed doors. Most of his reports mention DFK, DATY, sex in all sorts of positions (he also named a position after himself. WTF), CIM and lots of other activities? How that fuck we are supposed to believe all that without porn movie style video or pictures proof? Any report with such nonsense would be met with extreme skepticism unless more or more forum members (preferably me 😁.) allowed to watch live or have it recorded and share on this forum (fuck that shit called privacy) so all the forum members would be able to watch and believe his shit. Yup! That's the standard we are going with 😉.
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Monsier lalabo.
Again, thanks for bringing me that pixel 7 a for 120 USD, that was pure genius finding it used, refurbished on amazon! I apologize again though for paying you, and then running to get a non pro prospect for which I only smoked some ganja and did not actually fuck her, and I apologize I repossessed the vasco shirt for your security because I am like Henry Miller, a cheap bastard, even though in Reiais, I am still worth like a cool half a milion, or maybe it is again several million. Since my cash flow statement is measured in the thousands of reais, I am rich, rich, where I am.
OK, now I have these comments on your post.
First, it take it from you that it is meant to be humourus, and I laughed, very understated, very bill murray or dan akroyd.
Second, I think we must allow that the post to which you are referring, and like most of the discriptions of sex here are often exagerated because when we write about sex, it is funny, and we are all liars, as someone once said of hemingway, or perhaps heminway himself in hemingway and gellhorn said in that movie, all great writers are liars.
That said, yes, video would be preferable!
Oh yeah, and again, great tip on that nice indian restaurant near metro cantagalo.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2975635]After reading few of the posters that expressed skepticism about Steve's recent report and upon bit more consideration, I too am putting back just enough skepticism to question about all the activities Steve says he partakes with the girls between closed doors. Most of his reports mention DFK, DATY, sex in all sorts of positions (he also named a position after himself. WTF), CIM and lots of other activities? How that fuck we are supposed to believe all that without porn movie style video or pictures proof? Any report with such nonsense would be met with extreme skepticism unless more or more forum members (preferably me 😁.) allowed to watch live or have it recorded and share on this forum (fuck that shit called privacy) so all the forum members would be able to watch and believe his shit. Yup! That's the standard we are going with 😉.[/QUOTE]
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Steve is the real deal
I have always enjoyed reading Steve's posts on this site and can personally attest that his recommendations prove out. Not everyone has the charisma that Steve clearly has, and I also would love to see more photographs and videos of his exploits! Lolol Keep on keeping on Steve, you are one of the good ones!
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I need a dick in sp to go creampie leticia at CLínica ceci and tell me how much and send a report especially if she will bareback and for how much.
Vagabundo like henry miller needs more negressa princesses, chapter 7 of tropic of cancer.
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SP during Christmas
The feedback I got from forum members about visiting Brazil for mongering during Christmas was negative and recommended not to visit. Some of the reasons sighted were that it is a very religious & Christian country, and most of the working girls leave to spend holidays with their families.
I initially booked flights for Europe to visit FKK clubs in Zurich & Frankfurt. The situation is not that different in Europe than Brazil during Christmas time. Most of the girls working in FKKs are from Romania, which is also very religious Christian country and most girls they do the same thing, go home to spend holidays with their families.
At the last moment I switched my travel to SP to find out for myself how bad mongering would be in Brazil during Christmas time. Worst case, I would enjoy warmer climate than freezing my ass in Switzerland and Germany. I was in SP from Dec 19-31.
I have stayed in Mercure Times Square hotel in Moema, visited clinicas in the area, Scandallo most of the days and Casarao some days.
Scandallo:
The number of girls in attendance gradually went down from Dec 19 to 23rd. Club was closed on 24th and 25th. From 26th to 29th the numbers dramatically went down to like 30 to 50 girls. Club was closed on 30th & 31st.
During rest of the year with 200+ girls in attendance, if I am lucky, I used to find 1 or 2 English speaking girls during a visit. But as it got closer to Christmas, I found more and more girls in the house were speaking English. Based on the conversations I had most of them tour international destinations like London and Dubai. It is interesting that they still chose to work while they returned home for holidays to spend time with families. Another thing that was common among these English-speaking girls were their response to the question "What are all the things they do in the bedroom?" Most of them had very similar response: I give masaaage, reeelaaaaxiiing, chemiiistry, gooood conversaaation, bit more chemissstry and some mooore maaasaaage. LOL. I usually move on when I hear such sales pitch. I wonder if most of their clients overseas lose their minds hearing such sales pitch and throw 500+ GBP / hour in London or whatever the going rate in Dubai with no expectation of any sexual activities! Mr. Vagabundo might say, just like you all Scandallo visiting fuckers that throw thousands of Reals at girls. I would agree with the money part, but I bet most of them are a demanding bunch and don't get swayed by such silly sales pitch. I bet most of them demand no-holes-barred fun from them and they usually get it.
A few of the girls I had met during previous trips some of the days and I did overnights with them. Scandallo was very disappointing from Dec 22 - 31.
Casarao:
I mostly visited it after Christmas. Club never got as crowded as it usually does. Mostly sausage fest but there were enough girls for me to find decent fuck.
For the 1st time I took couple of girls (different nights) from this club for overnight. There are lots of scammy girls in the club and I was worried about takeout but to my surprise both the girls were good. Club's takeout fee is 150.
Clinicas:
I have visited Prime, Maruna and 57 friends. They all had decent lineup most of the days. I had sessioned with few good girls including Helena from Maruna and Valentina from Prime.
Overall, the trip wasn't bad, but it wasn't great (which was expected based on the feedback) either. I will definitely consider visiting again during Christmas in future.
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Small correction
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2975854]
Scandallo:
The number of girls in attendance gradually went down from Dec 19 to 23rd. Club was closed on 24th and 25th. From 26th to 29th the numbers dramatically went down to like 30 to 50 girls. Club was closed on 30th & 31st.
[/QUOTE]Scandallo was open on 30th and I visited that day. There were about 30 girls in attendance. It was closed on 31st and 1st.
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[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2975639]Monsier lalabo.
Again, thanks for bringing me that pixel 7 a for 120 USD, that was pure genius finding it used, refurbished on amazon! I apologize again though for paying you, and then running to get a non pro prospect for which I only smoked some ganja and did not actually fuck her, and I apologize I repossessed the vasco shirt for your security because I am like Henry Miller, a cheap bastard, even though in Reiais, I am still worth like a cool half a milion, or maybe it is again several million. Since my cash flow statement is measured in the thousands of reais, I am rich, rich, where I am.
[/QUOTE]You are welcome! Our original plan was to go to Villa Mimosa especially to visit the club Mosaico. I just wanted to check the box of visiting that place and I just wanted to see for myself if lots of beautiful girls work there like many reports mentioned in Rio forum. I wasn't thrilled you bailing on me, but I understand what happens when a man starts thinking with smaller head 😉.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2975639]
OK, now I have these comments on your post.
First, it take it from you that it is meant to be humourus, and I laughed, very understated, very bill murray or dan akroyd.
Second, I think we must allow that the post to which you are referring, and like most of the discriptions of sex here are often exagerated because when we write about sex, it is funny, and we are all liars, as someone once said of hemingway, or perhaps heminway himself in hemingway and gellhorn said in that movie, all great writers are liars.
That said, yes, video would be preferable!
Oh yeah, and again, great tip on that nice indian restaurant near metro cantagalo.[/QUOTE]I am glad you saw the humor in my post. That was the intent and at the same time point out the fact it is not easy/practical to share video / pictures as a proof of info in reports.
Like you and others said, which I agree with, videos / pictures definitely help but to what extent is debatable because most of what we do is quite subjective. We all know ones 9/10 could be someone else's 2/3 and vice versa. That does give forum members a wider room to represent facts in their own way. As a result, I would never call anything here a lie especially without solid proof.
Just a heads up. I will respond to one of your recent posts to add my 2 cents on ratings and price in my own twisted humorous (if one gets it) way.
About the Indian restaurant. I was in a hurry to go to 4 x4. It was raining at the time and I already had multiple Uber cancellations, so I was trying to save sometime by picking that meeting sport which was located midway for both of us. I never ate there. I hope food was ok.
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Just arrived at Sampa. Will be Here for 10 days.
[QUOTE=Georgest;2971780]I will be visiting So Paulo during the week of January 13th and wanted to check if anyone is planning to be there that week. It would be great to connect and visit some fine establishments. Please send me a private message, and I will share my contact information.[/QUOTE]
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A couple of good finds on photoacompanhantes
Aline Linz: [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/vila-mariana/a-sua-namoradinha-ruiva-branquinha-e-cheirosa-perfeita-id-3r9uw[/URL] . Easy to schedule with. Works at a clean shared facility in Vila Mariana, no bureaucracy to get in. You pay at the reception and the lady is called to comes to get you. Looks like the photos, and posted description is dead accurate, very nice natural body, beautiful face. Speaks fluent English, which surprised me. Soft demeanor, the type you want to take home to mama. Excellent sensual GFE. Damage 300, highly recommended.
Yara Esmeralda: [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/brasil/procurar.yara.esmeralda[/URL] . Tall, lean, loud, with a bat shit crazy vibe written all over her face. Was hosting at a 3 star international chain in Moema, which I found unusual. Very high intensity passionate GFE, but will spam the shit out of you for a repeat visit. Damage 400.
Happy mongering!
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Thanks for all the information
I read about thirty pages of comments in this forum and appreciated all the comments and reports. Your wisdom and experiences proved essential for me determining not to visit. The prices in Sao Paulo rival USA pricing, especially when you consider the costs of traveling, lodging, and other expenses.
Sao Paulo would have been a first visit, but other countries cost far less for leisure activities. Stay safe.
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Loss
[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2977189]I read about thirty pages of comments in this forum and appreciated all the comments and reports. Your wisdom and experiences proved essential for me determining not to visit. The prices in Sao Paulo rival USA pricing, especially when you consider the costs of traveling, lodging, and other expenses.
Sao Paulo would have been a first visit, but other countries cost far less for leisure activities. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]All I can say is it's your loss man. If it's a matter of you can't afford it and you know it, then OK. But if you can afford it, then I would urge you to go and spend a minimum of 10 days there. Going to Brazil changed my outlook on life and what's most important (same for many, many others). If you can afford to go then by all means do go!
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[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2977189]I read about thirty pages of comments in this forum and appreciated all the comments and reports. Your wisdom and experiences proved essential for me determining not to visit. The prices in Sao Paulo rival USA pricing, especially when you consider the costs of traveling, lodging, and other expenses.
Sao Paulo would have been a first visit, but other countries cost far less for leisure activities. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]When you include traveling, lodging, and other expenses involved, most destinations end up as expensive as the US.
Yes São Paulo is generally more expensive than a lot of other destinations. It's also just about impossible to beat for quantity and quality.
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[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2977189] The prices in Sao Paulo rival USA pricing, especially when you consider the costs of traveling, lodging, and other expenses.
Sao Paulo would have been a first visit, but other countries cost far less for leisure activities. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]WM, traveling around the world costs money and the only way to avoid travel expenses is to stay home. Unfortunately, I dislike the P4 P scene in my home state of Florida so traveling outside of the USA is a fate accompli for me. I do not punt in the USA.
But I will agree with you that SP hotel rack rates are more expensive than comparable hotels in BKK, CGK, and MNL. SP restaurant costs, on the other hand seem relatively reasonable to me unless you are into Michelin star quality fare. For example, on my last visit to SP, I took my favorite Scandallo girl to a joint called Jun Sakamoto. The food was knockout, and we had a great time polishing off a bottle of Saki, but it was a very, very expensive 5-star dinner. Maybe we will do it again in a year or two.
Same same with SP girls. At the high end there are bordellos like Scandallo where a punter can easily drop 1,300 br minimum or a lot more in a couple of hours. That is pretty expensive. BUT, once you have met some Scandallo girls who are repeat worthy, you can skip the bordello and meet up at your hotel which will reduce your cost of entertainment by something around 40%. KKK. But yeah, at the high end, SP is expensive. Whether it is worth it or not is up to the individual punter. I think it is worth it because I really like these bordello girls. They are unique.
But SP also has clinicas in good neighborhoods where a punter will only pay between 200 br and 350 br per hourly session. Many of these clinica girls ARE really quite doable ie attractive and the sex is usually very good. I have a friend who only does the clinicas and he stays in relatively reasonably priced 4-star hotels for around $100 US / night. I think his quality / fun / sex / cost ratio is competitive with other "inexpensive" destinations worldwide like even Phnom Penh, for example, and he prefers Brazilian girls over Asian girls, so for him SP is a very reasonably priced punting destination.
[QUOTE=Combo;2977217] Yes So Paulo is generally more expensive than a lot of other destinations. It's also just about impossible to beat for quantity and quality.[/QUOTE]You hit the nail on the head Combo. I couldn't agree more. The quantity / quality profile is very high in SP as is the average Brazilian working girl's attitude toward her clients. I just keep coming back to SP for more. I am an addict. KKK.
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It's not a dual pricing issue
[QUOTE=XXL;2962356]I saw the currency conversion screen a flash of a second but the shopkeeper was quicker. She said "of course" when I said I wanted to pay in Real and there's the result. Brazil has a dual-pricing system folks, a worse one that Thailand! The only way to avoid this would be to be the one manipulating the machine. I'm fed up with this. From now on I'll withdraw more cash from the ATM and pay everything I can I in cash. A bit of a hassle but there's no other way.[/QUOTE]You should always pay in the local currency. Paying in your currency is the scam. When you pay in your currency, they can charge you whatever exchange rate they want. In addition to that, you are typically charged a fee for that conversion. Since your bank will STILL charge you a fee for the conversion, you are not gaining anything by doing the conversion up front.
If you are charged in your local currency, you should have them cancel the purchase and redo it, ESPECIALLY if it is something expensive like a plane ticket.
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[QUOTE=Juanjo767;2977396]You should always pay in the local currency. Paying in your currency is the scam. When you pay in your currency, they can charge you whatever exchange rate they want. In addition to that, you are typically charged a fee for that conversion. Since your bank will STILL charge you a fee for the conversion, you are not gaining anything by doing the conversion up front.
If you are charged in your local currency, you should have them cancel the purchase and redo it, ESPECIALLY if it is something expensive like a plane ticket.[/QUOTE]This is already well-known thank you. I called it dual-pricing because the scam targets only foreign credit card. Holders of Brazilian credit cards are not affected. In principle nothing would prevent them from being affected. Prices in Real could, in principle, be converted into Dollars, then back into Reais (maybe even to Euro then Dollars then back into Real with a detour into Danish Crown and Renminbi for good measure?). The fact is they aren't.
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It always amazes me.
How people spend so much time writing up a report, and then don't add basic information like addresses. Those same people are always the first to spam RTFF.
Prime.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/itbPvuvg259GT4rg9[/URL]
Miruna (Not Maruna. The amount of time lost searching for Maruna, if there is such a place).
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/4sxBrVP621ShFyf68[/URL]
Abbbora.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/n55rLKJLTS7ZCm7cA[/URL]
57 House Friends Club.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/2H27zcsvHGnJW9KCA[/URL]
Casaro Augusta.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/eZ2fKzXcH3Q6Wog17[/URL]
Scandallo Lounge.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/A659oQmcR3u3K6G57[/URL]
In preparing for a trip, these are the locations that I found.
I would appreciate it if the community at large would let me know if I have the wrong location, or have missed something.
I would love to have access to World Traveler 69's Sao Paulo map. However, I don't want the paper trail.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2977399]This is already well-known thank you. I called it dual-pricing because the scam targets only foreign credit card. Holders of Brazilian credit cards are not affected. In principle nothing would prevent them from being affected. Prices in Real could, in principle, be converted into Dollars, then back into Reais (maybe even to Euro then Dollars then back into Real with a detour into Danish Crown and Renminbi for good measure?). The fact is they aren't.[/QUOTE]Ok. You said worse than Thailand, so I figured that I would point that out since the same thing happens in Thailand.
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[QUOTE=Combo;2977217]When you include traveling, lodging, and other expenses involved, most destinations end up as expensive as the US.
Yes So Paulo is generally more expensive than a lot of other destinations. It's also just about impossible to beat for quantity and quality.[/QUOTE]I see Axel agrees with you but I have to disagree with both of you. Quality is subjective so I won't argue about the quality and performance levels of Brazilian girls. For you and many others they are the best. But quantity?? It's not even close, many destinations have many more working girls than Brazil.
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[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2977418] But quantity?? It's not even close[/QUOTE]I agree with you and I won't be the only one.
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[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2977418]I see Axel agrees with you but I have to disagree with both of you. Quality is subjective so I won't argue about the quality and performance levels of Brazilian girls. For you and many others they are the best. But quantity?? It's not even close, many destinations have many more working girls than Brazil.[/QUOTE]Ok Houston, you are right. I just reread my post, and that line, "You hit the nail on the head Combo. I couldn't agree more. " Is a little vague and over the top. What can I say? I was in a good mood when I wrote it because I had just finished texting with my favorite SP gal and I was on a long distance high. KKK.
But I will stand by my 3rd sentence in that paragraph, "the quantity / quality profile is very high in SP as is the average Brazilian working girl's attitude toward her clients".
So, getting back to the OP; I highly recommend international travel regardless of the transportation cost and seeing and doing as much as possible in the remaining great punting destinations before it all goes away or declines in quality forever! As for the highest quantity of doable working girls available, multiplicity of venues, and ease of access; no current destination in the world comes even close to the scene in BKK or Pattaya. Sao Paulo, certainly, is not at that volume level even though I can't think of any place in BKK or Pat that rivals Scandallo for quantity or quality. SP feels to me more like Jakarta, which has a great nightlife scene too, with its bordellos, nightclubs, and pick up bars that are spread-out all-over town and where everything is relatively discreet until you approach the front door.
So, I say the same thing to both camps. To my fellow punters who like to party in SE Asia, I say you got to check out Brazil and to my friends who like to party in Brazil, I say you got to check out BKK, Pat, CGK, and Phnom. Have fun, Will travel.
A. H.
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[QUOTE=Combo;2977217]When you include traveling, lodging, and other expenses involved, most destinations end up as expensive as the US.
Yes Sao Paulo is generally more expensive than a lot of other destinations. It's also just about impossible to beat for quantity and quality.[/QUOTE]I travel quite a bit around the world and last year visited Thailand, Havana, Cartagena, and Korea. From many testimonials in the Sao Paulo reports, it appears as though the cost nears $400 to $500 USD for one transaction. Some indicated a lady's drink cost $65 USD. When factoring other expenses, that could easily cost $1000 daily. While I can afford that daily price, and did so when visiting Ireland a few years ago, it seems excessive when compared to other countries like Colombia.
As time goes on, I have found traveling to the Far East isn't the best due to time constraints and other factors. Thailand was enjoyably when younger, but the allure seems to have faded with time. It has delicious food and scenery though. Korea has enjoyable food but the people seem tense. Havana proved enjoyable for visiting, and the food was great, it felt very safe, but I felt as though others were watching and avoided mongering. I formerly visited the Dominican Republic but the North coast doesn't offer a pleasant atmosphere.
Right now I am considering revisiting Colombia, but perhaps somewhere other than Cartagena. I liked it there for many reasons, but would like to expand. I am also reading about Costa Rica though there seem to be mixed reviews.
I like Hispanic women. What makes Brazilian women so special they seem to have so many men in here under their spells?
As always, thanks to everyone for their assistance. It's greatly appreciated.
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Costs
[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2977907]I travel quite a bit around the world and last year visited Thailand, Havana, Cartagena, and Korea. From many testimonials in the Sao Paulo reports, it appears as though the cost nears $400 to $500 USD for one transaction. Some indicated a lady's drink cost $65 USD. When factoring other expenses, that could easily cost $1000 daily. While I can afford that daily price, and did so when visiting Ireland a few years ago, it seems excessive when compared to other countries like Colombia.
As time goes on, I have found traveling to the Far East isn't the best due to time constraints and other factors. Thailand was enjoyably when younger, but the allure seems to have faded with time. It has delicious food and scenery though. Korea has enjoyable food but the people seem tense. Havana proved enjoyable for visiting, and the food was great, it felt very safe, but I felt as though others were watching and avoided mongering. I formerly visited the Dominican Republic but the North coast doesn't offer a pleasant atmosphere.
Right now I am considering revisiting Colombia, but perhaps somewhere other than Cartagena. I liked it there for many reasons, but would like to expand. I am also reading about Costa Rica though there seem to be mixed reviews.
I like Hispanic women. What makes Brazilian women so special they seem to have so many men in here under their spells?
As always, thanks to everyone for their assistance. It's greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]I don't know where you're getting your pricing from. Definitely not from me because I have never bought a $65 lady drink in Brazil. In fact, rarely have I ever bought a lady drink at all in Brazil! Not because I'm cheap (I travel with big mongering budgets) but because that's not an integral part of the scene in Brazil, say like in Thailand or other parts of Asia as example. Also, don't know how in the world you're tallying the average transaction at $400 to $500 bucks. That's not true as you can do much, much better than that. Brazil has many market segments you can tap, some being quite reasonable, like the clinicas in Sampa and the prives in Rio. Again, not going is your loss bro!
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[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2977907]I travel quite a bit around the world and last year visited Thailand, Havana, Cartagena, and Korea. From many testimonials in the Sao Paulo reports, it appears as though the cost nears $400 to $500 USD for one transaction. Some indicated a lady's drink cost $65 USD. When factoring other expenses, that could easily cost $1000 daily.[/QUOTE]It's interesting that guys selectively read these posts and think entire São Paulo scene is scandallo. Admittedly it's probably best mongering venue in the world with a price to match. It would crazy to go SP and not visit scandallo at least once. But they ignore all of the other posts of the $12 to $50 per session venues which is comparable or even cheaper than the other cities. Prives are $12 to $20. Clinicas are $20 to $50. High end clinicas are $100 to $140. Other boates besides scandallo are $100 and up.
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[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2977907]I travel quite a bit around the world and last year visited Thailand, Havana, Cartagena, and Korea. From many testimonials in the Sao Paulo reports, it appears as though the cost nears $400 to $500 USD for one transaction. Some indicated a lady's drink cost $65 USD. When factoring other expenses, that could easily cost $1000 daily. While I can afford that daily price, and did so when visiting Ireland a few years ago, it seems excessive when compared to other countries like Colombia.
As time goes on, I have found traveling to the Far East isn't the best due to time constraints and other factors. Thailand was enjoyably when younger, but the allure seems to have faded with time. It has delicious food and scenery though. Korea has enjoyable food but the people seem tense. Havana proved enjoyable for visiting, and the food was great, it felt very safe, but I felt as though others were watching and avoided mongering. I formerly visited the Dominican Republic but the North coast doesn't offer a pleasant atmosphere..[/QUOTE]Those numbers are not representative of the reality here. I'm in Sao Paulo right now, having a great time. These prices are accurate as of late January 2025:
- High end clinica (Sharon, Palms, etc) - BRL700 all in ( USD115). High quality talent, 1 HR session, great locations.
- Seeking Arrangement. This varies, but on average BRL800-1000 (USD135-170) for very high quality semi-pros from anywhere ranging between 3 hours to overnight. Never paid more than BRL1000 for an overnight here. These are more often than not university students, Instagram influencers, etc. Just last night I had a 25 y / o gym girl that was fucking amazing, stayed overnight and fucked like a champ. Plus, kissing and BBBJ.
- Scandallo, still haven't made my way there on this trip but planning to do so on Monday. IIRC, going before 7 pm the entry was cheaper and all consumable. Girl prices range quite a bit. They'll quote you BRL2000 but that really means they'll do BRL800-1000 and they're just trying to get more money because you look like a tourist. Negotiate. Negotiate hard. Scandallo is a buyer's market, take advantage of that. If she won't budge, there are probably 5 others who are willing to entertain your price. These prices are reasonable for what I consider the best mongering space in the world. I've never seen any other place like it.
Well, hope this helps friend. Do not be afraid to come to Brazil, prices are not scandalous and the quality you get is unbelievable, specially if you like Latin women. Plus, good food, nice atmosphere, friendly locals and great steak. Brazil is always a good idea.
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[QUOTE=Combo;2977217]When you include traveling, lodging, and other expenses involved, most destinations end up as expensive as the US......[/QUOTE]That's so for short trips where you bonk say four or five women. It would have been cheaper to do that at home. However, for longer trips where you have fun with 30 or 40 babes its cheaper abroad overall.
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[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2977938]It's interesting that guys selectively read these posts and think entire So Paulo scene is scandallo. Admittedly it's probably best mongering venue in the world with a price to match. It would crazy to go SP and not visit scandallo at least once. But they ignore all of the other posts of the $12 to $50 per session venues which is comparable or even cheaper than the other cities. Prives are $12 to $20. Clinicas are $20 to $50. High end clinicas are $100 to $140. Other boates besides scandallo are $100 and up.[/QUOTE]Yeah not sure where the OP is getting his info. There are some reports where the $ and Reais are get confused so maybe 500 R not 500 $.
To state the facts of my recent visit. The girl price specifically in USD (and you guys know there are lower than this):
Scandallo - $180-200.
Casarao - $85.
Friends 57 - $50.
All these girls were comparable in looks. 7+. (Tho def a couple nines at Scandallo).
It is nearly impossible to spend $1000 a night in So Paulo. Came close but that included 2 girls, 2 rooms, a bottle of gin, cigars and 8 hours of partying. Obv you don't need to do that and it's not an apples to apples comparison. There is nothing like Scandallo in any of the countries the OP mentioned.
Oh and as to why there are so many Brasileira fans. I too have traveled all over and find Brasileiras unique. One poster uses the term IOP illusion of passion for a girl making it feel like true GFE. I personally believe that with a lot of Brazilian girls its not an illusion that they commit 100% to the moment. I cant think of the last time a Brazilian girl had to use lube cuz she wasnt naturally wet. Or didnt DFK like a beast. I think they teach kissing in middle school. 😜 Cuz almost all Brazilian girls love to kiss and kiss like the devil and angel all in one.
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[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2977938]It's interesting that guys selectively read these posts and think entire So Paulo scene is scandallo. Admittedly it's probably best mongering venue in the world with a price to match. It would crazy to go SP and not visit scandallo at least once. But they ignore all of the other posts of the $12 to $50 per session venues which is comparable or even cheaper than the other cities. Prives are $12 to $20. Clinicas are $20 to $50. High end clinicas are $100 to $140. Other boates besides scandallo are $100 and up.[/QUOTE]Yeah, WanderingMan's numbers are exaggerated. Even if Scandallo (the most expensive venue), you don't need to pay nearly the numbers he references.
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[QUOTE=Member#3137;2977993]- Scandallo, still haven't made my way there on this trip but planning to do so on Monday. IIRC, going before 7 pm the entry was cheaper and all consumable. Girl prices range quite a bit. They'll quote you BRL2000 but that really means they'll do BRL800-1000 [/QUOTE]BRL 800-1000 at scandallo: is it an average reasonable price for ST or LT?
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Not Average. But Maybe
[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2978047]BRL 800-1000 at scandallo: is it an average reasonable price for ST or LT?[/QUOTE]I would def not say 800-1000 is average. Esp 800. Thats going to take some expert negotiating or willing to settle. Hard for a newbie. That said all the girls I went with were 1000-1200 right out the gate and I didn't try to push them down. I'the figure between 1000-1500 esp if a newbie. I wouldn't pay more than that. This is the HOUR price at the hotel there. Figure double that approx for taking her overnight to your place.
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Pay what you are comftable with!
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2978059]I would def not say 800-1000 is average. Esp 800. Thats going to take some expert negotiating or willing to settle. Hard for a newbie. That said all the girls I went with were 1000-1200 right out the gate and I didn't try to push them down. I'the figure between 1000-1500 esp if a newbie. I wouldn't pay more than that. This is the HOUR price at the hotel there. Figure double that approx for taking her overnight to your place.[/QUOTE]You always pay what you are comftable with so don't overthink it. If you are not comftable to pay 1000 than skip Scandallo and go to Casarao or similar places. The thing with scandallo is the whole experiece, nice and clean place, posh girls who dress and smell nice, a variety difficult to find anywhere else in the world. Its like going to a nice restaurant and a regular restaurant. Both fill your stomach but feel different. You feel robbed if you don't apreciate what the nice place offers you extra but don't want to miss it when you put value to nice presentation, lighting, dejoration level of service and so on.
You can enjoy both worlds and still apreciate both. I had some nice nights with dancing, drinking laughing at scandallo but also fun with gems I met at massage parlors for 300 Brl. Offer her what you think she should feel good with but without feeling robbed. If she says no then skip it, there are sooooo many girls who will.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2978026]I can't think of the last time a Brazilian girl had to use lube cuz she wasn't naturally wet. Or didn't DFK like a beast. I think they teach kissing in middle school. Cuz almost all Brazilian girls love to kiss and kiss like the devil and angel all in one.[/QUOTE]I know that's right! This branca DFK'd me something fierce to the point that I ended up with a "hickey of the tongue". Never before or since! I'll always remember my session with her because of that. That shit hurt the next day too. Branca put something on me! [B]And[/B] she had a really pretty face with a plump, round, Brazilian, branca bunda just how I like too LOL!
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Fine Amigos. Thanks for these valuable infos.
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[QUOTE=NamasteParis;2978108]Fine Amigos. Thanks for these valuable infos.[/QUOTE]This is the price estimate for Scandallo after 7 PM. 500 entry + 300 room + 800 girl.
The girl are free to ask what they want. You may pay less or a lot more. You don't have to buy drink for girls at Scandllo to talk to them. I don't buy drink unless I have already decided to take the girl or to some girls that I already know. You don't have to do either. The best thing about Scandallo is service is more reliable assume you are not shy and know what you are doing. It will be better if you like club and enjoy talking to girls before sex. Otherwise, you probably won't see much value in it.
Casarao's price, 60 entrada, room 100/hr, 50/30 minutes, girl 500/hr, 350/30 minutes. It's about 660 for one hour. It could be more or less for the girl. The environment is not suited for prolong conversation, especially if you don't speak the language. The girls may ask for drink. The general advice is don't buy drink because it is not cheap relatively speaking.
High-end clinicas are about 800 for one hour. My guess is that you have about 2/3 chance to get similar average girl as Scandallo. The service is not guaranteed because the selection is made from a tablet and there are some limits restricting you talking to girl. The rooms generally are very good, some better than Scandallo.
Clinicas range from 220 to 340 for one hour. There is also a 30 minutes option to make it cheaper. You can talk to girl so you are likely to have better service.
The other low end options in Centro are all closed or farther away. I hope this clears up the pricing. There are some more nuances that I am sure others will chime in but I am keeping it short.
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Big Ups!
[QUOTE=Nounce;2978283]This is the price estimate for Scandallo after 7 PM. 500 entry + 300 room + 800 girl.
The girl are free to ask what they want. You may pay less or a lot more. You don't have to buy drink for girls at Scandllo to talk to them. I don't buy drink unless I have already decided to take the girl or to some girls that I already know. You don't have to do either. The best thing about Scandallo is service is more reliable assume you are not shy and know what you are doing. It will be better if you like club and enjoy talking to girls before sex. Otherwise, you probably won't see much value in it.
Casarao's price, 60 entrada, room 100/hr, 50/30 minutes, girl 500/hr, 350/30 minutes. It's about 660 for one hour. It could be more or less for the girl. The environment is not suited for prolong conversation, especially if you don't speak the language. The girls may ask for drink. The general advice is don't buy drink because it is not cheap relatively speaking.
High-end clinicas are about 800 for one hour. My guess is that you have about 2/3 chance to get similar average girl as Scandallo. The service is not guaranteed because the selection is made from a tablet and there are some limits restricting you talking to girl. The rooms generally are very good, some better than Scandallo.
Clinicas range from 220 to 340 for one hour. There is also a 30 minutes option to make it cheaper. You can talk to girl so you are likely to have better service.
The other low end options in Centro are all closed or farther away. I hope this clears up the pricing. There are some more nuances that I am sure others will chime in but I am keeping it short.[/QUOTE]I really wish we her able to save posts to keep as a reference. This will definitely help me when I go back to SP in April. I never did the rooms at Casarao, I would also just pick one I liked every night and bring them back to my hotel. But I guess for this trip I'll get the room for an hour and just take the ones I had a real good time with to my hotel. I take it that its 2 pops in the hour correct or is that something between you and the garota?
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Nounce is spot on!
I did a quick visit to Scandallo on a slow night Saturday.
Half the place was closed off. I talked to a cute Morena have been chasing for a few months. She is a Megan Markle hottie always quoted 1 mil to 1. 5 million reais. Saturday night I offered my standard anchor opening offer of 700 reais. She accepted -bingo.
We went upstairs to the DJ booth to drink, dance, and celebrate. From the balcony, she spied her blonde Branca girlfriend. She is one of this sexy ass blonde Instagram models, always posing in front of luxury items.
Told Morena I wanted a duplo session with her and her blonde Branca friend. Now this is the important part I learned the hard way. Better to give each garota the same amount 700 reais not different deals in the bedroom. They compare notes, about money.
I scored a threesome for 700 reais each. Again it was a slow freaking night at Scandallo, Saturday night and I knew one of the garotas for a while.
Sunday night went to the Bahamas hotel. I remember it sucks but didn't remember why. 500 or 600 reais entry consumables. The very average-looking garotas you typically see in the supermercado were asking for 1 mil to 1. 5 mil, not budging WTF. Two twenty-year university students agreed to 750 reais. I bailed on their offer. Because their looks were average, the be team.
I immediately took an Uber directly to Casaro Augusta. It's Sunday night at midnight. Half the back bar is closed off. Slow night. It was a much better experience to chat and talk with the garotas. There was plenty of space to chat up garota both upstairs and downstairs bar. I did not need an anchor offer. Each garota I met said 300 reais to 350 reais for an hour. Nope didn't buy them a drink neither. On Sunday night there was no long ass line waiting for the hotel rooms.
I enjoyed the time and space to have leisure conversations with the garotas, agreeing to performance plus incentives before heading next door to the room. Upfront payment was expected. The Pix incentives I offered to give at the end of the session works well for me.
Of course this slow night with good spacing made it easier for ME to be the target of opportunity for garotas looking for take way meal too. I wasn't drunk enough to accept the really lowball offers from gordita garotas coming up to me with sexy intentions.
The casarao garotas I sessioned with shared their wassap numbers and Instagram page. Nearly all agreed to meet at the convenient located Hotel For Lover the next day for a longer time two to three hours and lesser price point.
I use Hotel for Lovers as a go to spot for quickie afternoon trysts. It's a 45 second walk from the Jabaquara metro.
For the garotas, it's easier place to meet mid- afternoons, no paying for uber, not stuck in traffic during the rain downpours and it's economical. Garotas can hop on metro or onibus and be on their way back to work or home, easy peasy.
Nounce is correct on the general pricing range at each place. So save his post.
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[QUOTE=Tochka;2978813]......She is a Megan Markle hottie always quoted 1 mil to 1. 5 million reais. ......[/QUOTE]Wow, I wonder if Isabeli Fontana will charge that much. Just kidding, I know what you mean.
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Isabeli Fontana
[QUOTE=Turgid;2978824]Wow, I wonder if Isabeli Fontana will charge that much. Just kidding, I know what you mean.[/QUOTE]This beautiful Morena with sparkling green eyes, brick house, and Instagram model features with IoP. She did have a stuck-up attitude to match the first time. She is courted by those HNW high net worth guys from Europe taking her on sugar daddy vacation spots in Europe, Spain, Switzerland, and island countries. The real deal. But I knew she was going to be back in Brazil, back in Scandallo cause she is chasing the rich, young, beautiful, fitness lifestyle. Eventually got to shake that money maker to support her so-called luxury lifestyle. So I got lucky on a slow night she and her Instagram girlfriend accepted the offer. It would not happen on regular weeknights Mon-Thur.
Saying again Nounce is right about the price range in Scandallo. Get their wassap to meet at a tell motel for a longer time at a lower price point the next day. Spend whatever you are comfortable with. Or grab their number and wait to get the WhatsApp message that never fails to come. "Send me Pix" haha.
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I think it is worth a reminder that for some countries "back home" activity carries the risk of a criminal record and other inconveniences associated with breaking vice laws.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2978009]That's so for short trips where you bonk say four or five women. It would have been cheaper to do that at home. However, for longer trips where you have fun with 30 or 40 babes its cheaper abroad overall.[/QUOTE]
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When going to São Paulo does someone stay in a particular part of the city? Step one for me is booking a plane ticket. Step two is knowing where to stay and I don't know.
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2979346]When going to So Paulo does someone stay in a particular part of the city? Step one for me is booking a plane ticket. Step two is knowing where to stay and I don't know.[/QUOTE]I usually stay in Moema because it has quite a few mid-range Clinicas (Prime, Abbabora, Miruna, 57 friends, Enjoy etc.) and not that far from boetes like Scandallo, Casaro, Bamboa etc.
Another popular location folks stay is Jardim Paulista. I have stayed in the area. The area has lots of popular restaurants but terrible traffic.
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[QUOTE=Lalabo;2979361]I usually stay in Moema because it has quite a few mid-range Clinicas (Prime, Abbabora, Miruna, 57 friends, Enjoy etc.) and not that far from boetes like Scandallo, Casaro, Bamboa etc.
Another popular location folks stay is Jardim Paulista. I have stayed in the area. The area has lots of popular restaurants but terrible traffic.[/QUOTE]Thank you.
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[QUOTE=Lalabo;2979361]I usually stay in Moema because it has quite a few mid-range Clinicas (Prime, Abbabora, Miruna, 57 friends, Enjoy etc.) and not that far from boetes like Scandallo, Casaro, Bamboa etc.
Another popular location folks stay is Jardim Paulista. I have stayed in the area. The area has lots of popular restaurants but terrible traffic.[/QUOTE]Also consider vila Mariana, which I am staying now. Good local places to eat but crazy traffic. But you have Tangara and yankin Clinicas nearby. These have 20-25 girls each, double the Moema clinicas which have 10 each. Yankin is full of Asian guys, so you can assume what types of girls they have. Scandallo is also closer.
I use to stay only in Moema but I feel the quality of girls have slipped. I remember my first trip in 2021, every girl at prime was my hit list. Now just 1-2. So I decided on this trip to split my time, half VM and half Moema.
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Moema planes
[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2979346]When going to So Paulo does someone stay in a particular part of the city? Step one for me is booking a plane ticket. Step two is knowing where to stay and I don't know.[/QUOTE]I suggest checking out Moema in the Sao Paulo hotel section. The most important aspect of staying in Moema is to find a hotel or Airbnb apartment with double-pane windows to help reduce the noise from jets and planes, particularly at 6:00 AM. There are reports available that list places confirmed to provide a quiet restful sleep.
I like Moema for its convenient location, especially when it rains heavily and traffic becomes challenging. There are plenty of Waze shortcuts to help navigate the area.
I agree that there are many clinics within walking distance or a short 7-minute Uber ride, even in the rain. Just yesterday, while at the Ibirapuera Shopping Mall, I noticed a clinic I hadn't seen before called Sirius Spa, which is just one block from the mall. I've walked past that street numerous times without realizing there was a clinic there until one of my garotas in the GDP sent a message to arrange an afternoon appointment with her.
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Mobilematter eSIM
Previous discussions on the forum on the difficulty of getting a Brazilian SIM chip without a CPF. There are data eSIMs like holafly but they don't give you a Brazilian phone number for SMS and phone calls. I found Mobilematter and they do offer a 30 day tourist eSIM plan which gives a Brazilian phone number (I got a Rio area code) and 10 Gb with SMS and phone calls. For $22. There are larger data plans for slightly more money. No ID verification needed. It's a CONTEL eSIM which runs on the TIM network. I brought it in the states, easy QR code set up and can set it up before leaving. I couldn't get SMS in the states but once I landed in Brazil, everything worked once it's connected on TIM. Got SMS for WhatsApp etc. Not sure it's renewable, didn't see an option for that.
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[QUOTE=Tochka;2979699]I suggest checking out Moema in the Sao Paulo hotel section. The most important aspect of staying in Moema is to find a hotel or Airbnb apartment with double-pane windows to help reduce the noise from jets and planes, particularly at 6:00 AM. There are reports available that list places confirmed to provide a quiet restful sleep.
I like Moema for its convenient location, especially when it rains heavily and traffic becomes challenging. There are plenty of Waze shortcuts to help navigate the area.
I agree that there are many clinics within walking distance or a short 7-minute Uber ride, even in the rain. Just yesterday, while at the Ibirapuera Shopping Mall, I noticed a clinic I hadn't seen before called Sirius Spa, which is just one block from the mall. I've walked past that street numerous times without realizing there was a clinic there until one of my garotas in the GDP sent a message to arrange an afternoon appointment with her.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I found the hotel section on your suggestion.
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Carnival
I'm going to be in Sao Paulo during Carnival. Anybody know how the clinicas and sex nightclubs are in Sampa during Carnival? What's the sex scene like? Never been in Brazil during Carnival so looking forward to it! I have avoided being there during Carnival in the past, but not this time. Time to celebrate being free!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2980486]I'm going to be in Sao Paulo during Carnival. Anybody know how the clinicas and sex nightclubs are in Sampa during Carnival? What's the sex scene like? Never been in Brazil during Carnival so looking forward to it! I have avoided being there during Carnival in the past, but not this time. Time to celebrate being free![/QUOTE]Clinical are open, but slow action. Casarao is your best bet. Even some Scandallo girls can be found there during carnival. I would also try Bomboa.
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Casaro Report. Sunday. & Monday Nights.
Hit up Casaro on both Sunday and Monday nights. Monday after midnight was definitely busier than.
Sunday, with a solid lineup of sexy GND (girl next door) types. Plenty of flirty conversations with well-dressed garotas-part of the "interview process"to see if we clicked or not.
Downstairs at the bar, I locked eyes with a 22-year-old exotic-looking garota-petite, natural curves, no bolt-ONS, and those sultry green eyes that just pulled me in. Went up to chat, and before I knew it, my hands were already roaming her tight body. No underwear, no bra, just pure au naturel. She gave a sly smile-nice.
Negotiations opened at 300 BRL for half an hour or 500 BRL for the full hour, with possible Pix incentives for Great service. She agreed to an hour- I said "vamos bora".
Damn she was in to me, and I was in to her. We clicked. Ended up getting in two pops for the hour session (BTW at 57 Chanes its possible for two pops, it doable with the right garota).
I try to Set the mood with some Filipe ret Revel & Trap and flashback music Chivas whiskey, Smirnoff Ice, and a decent marola to relax between rounds or before going at again.
Before the hour ends, I ask for her wassap and, as always asks if she had a pretty girlfriend to join us for another hour threesome.
At Casaro, roll in around midnight and wrap up with a 5 AM Uber. Knowing some Brazilian Portuguese definitely helps keep the flirty vibes going. Good times.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2980486]I'm going to be in Sao Paulo during Carnival. Anybody know how the clinicas and sex nightclubs are in Sampa during Carnival? What's the sex scene like? Never been in Brazil during Carnival so looking forward to it! I have avoided being there during Carnival in the past, but not this time. Time to celebrate being free![/QUOTE]I was in SP once during carnival and had a great time. Lots of open air street parties enjoyed by everyone. There were less ladies at the clinicas than during normal times but I still had an enjoyable time with the available talent. During the actual carnival days (Monday and Tuesday) some clinicas were closed. I remember Miruna being open throughout. Someone else can chime in on the boites which I don't visit.
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Carnival Talent
[QUOTE=Turgid;2980561]I was in SP once during carnival and had a great time. Lots of open air street parties enjoyed by everyone. There were less ladies at the clinicas than during normal times but I still had an enjoyable time with the available talent. During the actual carnival days (Monday and Tuesday) some clinicas were closed. I remember Miruna being open throughout. Someone else can chime in on the boites which I don't visit.[/QUOTE]I'll be spending some time in Sampa after carnival too. As long as I get my fill of Scandallo!
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The SP Carnival is nothing like the RJ Carnival and if you ask me, that is a good thing. KKK. I was staying in SP a couple of weeks before Carnival 2023 began and a couple of weeks after it ended, and I remember how much I enjoyed and was relieved by the low-key friendly ambiance going on in the Jardim and Itaim Bibi neighborhoods while I was there during the holiday 2023.
Bomboa was packed and particularly good back then with no noticeable decline of quantity or quality of girls to choose from. They had a TV upstairs in the restaurant playing live Carnival events, but nobody seemed to care. Scandallo was pretty good too although I noticed that a few of their stunners were MIA. I did not miss them as there were still plenty of Scandallo girls to choose from. Maybe the head count of Scandallo girls was down 10-15%. I can't comment on the clinicas.
I posted a trip report after I returned home. My conclusion was that if you are not into Carnival stay in SP. You will have a great time. If you are into Carnival or want to experience it at least once in your life, go to RJ, but don't say you were not warned.
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57 friends carnival party
For those in SP right now, 57 friends is having a carnival party on Thursday's night Feb 6 after 8 p. There will be strip shows and more girls. The long time reception woman who speaks good English says that after 8 p the girl prices are also fixed. Are 400/ one hour and R300/ half hour. Obviously the environment is different from the boates, but worth to be a decent night alternative.
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[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2979659]I use to stay only in Moema but I feel the quality of girls have slipped. I remember my first trip in 2021, every girl at prime was my hit list. Now just 1-2. So I decided on this trip to split my time, half VM and half Moema.[/QUOTE]I observed the same decline in Prime lineup quality. I like 57 friends better for the least 6 months or so.
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Quality down
I agree. Quality has gone down. Seems like the 10 pieces are find other job opportunities. Dunno. 5 years ago, it was lit everywhere. Like everything else, it has its cycles, it will turn around again.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2980728]I observed the same decline in Prime lineup quality. I like 57 friends better for the least 6 months or so.[/QUOTE]
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SP Carnival
SP Carnival is a baby version of RJ. LOL I remember the ol days when Help was open during Carnival, insane! Bang a chick with a costume, at an open bar in Copa. And 4 x4 was Scandallo on steriods, horse pills, and tiger bull drink LOLs.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2980577]The SP Carnival is nothing like the RJ Carnival and if you ask me, that is a good thing. KKK. I was staying in SP a couple of weeks before Carnival 2023 began and a couple of weeks after it ended, and I remember how much I enjoyed and was relieved by the low-key friendly ambiance going on in the Jardim and Itaim Bibi neighborhoods while I was there during the holiday 2023.
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[QUOTE=RealShaun;2980746]SP Carnival is a baby version of RJ. LOL I remember the ol days when Help was open during Carnival, insane! Bang a chick with a costume, at an open bar in Copa. And 4 x4 was Scandallo on steriods, horse pills, and tiger bull drink LOLs.[/QUOTE]Sadly, I missed the Help era. It must have been something!
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Monday to Wednesday report
3 nights in São Paulo review. After 5 years I have returned to my favourite club on earth Scandallo lounge. Arrived at 10 pm to the club after 10 hours flying on a Monday night. Big Outside patio was closed and half of the night club maybe 70 girls in the club. Enjoyed my first with only one girl. 1000 for the girl and service was great as said here before between 1000-1200 reals for 95 percent of the girls. Day two back to Scandallo for a Tuesday night probably 150 girls and the full club was open and outside patio. Took a hot blonde mid twenties with nice big fake tits wearing a bikini top. Great service 5 and half inches of Deepthroat can't complain with 3/4. Decided to check out casarao club later that night. Couple decent girls there the level of rio terma is best to describe it. Had a great time with a bubbly brunette that was dancing around. 500 reals for the hour.
Wednesdayhit up Tangará at 6 15 girls there. Took Isabella for half hour think like 170 reals. 3 skinnier younger girls that were worth my time in my opinion. Rushed from there straight to Scandallo before 7 pm for the free dinner in theory. Had the chicken and the baby burgers they are delicious. Enjoyed the scenery probably 75 girls there by 7 for free dinners from guys. Had a girl the night before quote 1500 but she was as hot brunette but I said no to stand up for the team. Day two she approached me and I asked again and this time she said yes. Great service model body. Later that night a skinny but gorgeous blonde caught my eye. She started at 2000 reals and I just walked away. I'll try her again next week Before I leave. Later that night took a fitness girl which I'm attracted to you. Strong legs and abs. Service was amazing top10 fucks if my life. Deepthroat 6. 5 inches and crazy wild passionate sex. Got her number because she's a keeper.
Cutting my rio and BUZIOS trip short to go back to São Paulo! I would much rather pay $1000-1200 reals a girl plus hotel for top shelf over $800 reals for mediocre service in rio! Centaurus is the op shelf but had 2 girls only offer CBJ out of 3. Every girl in Scandallo gave me a very long BBBJ of course I say this to all eat that pussy if your good at it like me it makes them go crazy in return. Rio is good because you can pretend you're there for the beach while running to every terma. But if I had a week to live I would find myself in Scandallo for half of it!
Coming back for Saturday night! Any advice on where to watch Super Bowl this Sunday with hot girls / waitresses? Hooters style? I wish Scandallo was open!
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[QUOTE=RealShaun;2980746]SP Carnival is a baby version of RJ. LOL I remember the ol days when Help was open during Carnival, insane! Bang a chick with a costume, at an open bar in Copa. And 4 x4 was Scandallo on steriods, horse pills, and tiger bull drink LOLs.[/QUOTE]My experience during one rio carnival was yes tons of hot girls in bikinis on beach! Termas were average because girls were with friends and family. But fags from all over the world grown men dressed as butterflies covered in sparkles in banana hammocks and shit everywhere. Not my vibe. I luckily found a beach post with normal people in Leblon that straight people mostly.
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Hooters
[QUOTE=ArmnHammer69;2980765]Coming back for Saturday night! Any advice on where to watch Super Bowl this Sunday with hot girls / waitresses? Hooters style? I wish Scandallo was open![/QUOTE]How about here?
[URL]https://www.hooters.com/locations/40051-sao-paulo[/URL]
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Crack open a beer and enjoy!!
Foreword everyone mongers differently and everyone has different outcomes. We read and we don't judge 😜.
After an ordinary night with a decent looking blonde from 4 x4, I landed in SP on Wednesday afternoon. I had a special weekend planned but little did I know how special it would turn out to be.
I headed off to the Grand Hyatt where SocratesNY was staying and had booked both the Presidential suites for us using a cash+points option. I usually stay at the Renaissance but I couldn't pass this up. Checked in, dropped my stuff and went to lunch at Morumbi shopping since this is the only place nearby where you can walk around and choose your restaurants. The area isn't as walkable as Jardin Paulista and not that many restaurants within walking distance. The room is fabulous and I have a special plan this weekend so this room should be just perfect.
Our plan was get ready and head to Scandello to get in before 7 so I could get one pop out before my girl from Recife (call her Mary) would arrive around 930 pm. I had met her a few years ago at a shit boate during the pandemic and she is hot as fuck, with a smoking body and an ass to die for.
After I got my customary bottle of gin, I hit the THC Sativa vape and got a drink ready and we sat around and enjoyed the eye candy. Pretty soon I found a Japa who was interested in me and off we went. 1 k for the HR plus the room for 300 are. Always wanted to have a Japa but never could find one that was interested in me. Usually they ignore my kind for Japanese clients or gringos. Pretty good service and was able to pop one out after 40 minutes and now I am satisfied to head downstairs to eat, drink and wait for Mary to arrive. Eventually, we head inside and get a table with the sofas in the dance club and Mary arrives at Scandello around 11 pm. There are other ISG members at our table Lalabo, Chege, and Parks292 along with SocratesNY and myself. We have two bottles of gin, one tequila and one whiskey to start. This is definitely looking to be a fun night!!
Mary is a party girl who truly enjoys girls and likes to seek them out. She has worked in Scandello before but now she is a client and you could see her eyes sparkle. We haven't seen each other for 2+ years so we are holding each other, hugging and kissing. She still looks like I remember and her body is even in better shape. I tell her to start choosing what she likes and we settle on a price ceiling of 2 k per night if both of us like the girl and vice-versa. So, she has a drink and heads off to find someone while I sit and chat with the boys and tell them the story of this girl.
She comes back 15 minutes later with a sad face and says she asked a few girls and all said no. So I was like. Let's go and see what "we" can find. Sure enough. Within 2 minutes, we find a short blonde who Mary likes and she takes her back to the sofas to get to know her better. I wasn't thrilled with her choice so I chose to walk around some more and find a girl named Adrianna who says yes and we go to meet Mary. Immediately Mary and Adrianna dig other and soon they start kissing and Mary tells the other girl she isn't the right fit for me and her. Now, we have our three so we are content and happy with each other. Drinks are flowing, the girls are kissing each and me and it is around 3 am before we head out.
Mary had yet to see our room which I made sure she didn't when she dropped her off luggage earlier so I opened the door her for to show her the surprise. Her eyes lit up and she was ready to jump me right there and then. But being a sweaty after a night of dancing, we took showers one after each other and got ready in bed. I told them we need to use that shower properly and they agreed. Both girls attacked each other and for a while forgot I was there. And then they pulled me in. Mary and I had agreed to BBFSCIP and we agreed that with the other girls, it would be with a condom. But in the heat of the moment. The other girl jumped on and fucked me till I came in her. So Mary talked to her in the bathroom and the girls showed us her recent tests less than 1 month old and said she would get a rapid test at the pharmacy the next day. That settled Mary down and I was good to go.
Next morning (Thursday), we woke up around 1030 am and had breakfast delivered to the room which is a perk of the suite and the girls were in heaven. The other girl left to get clothes for the weekend and get her test. Mary and I had some private time so we had some great sex, long and slow with multiple orgasms for her. The other girl came back around 4 pm and we had to rush to get ready for an omakase reservation at 7 pm.
After an amazing dinner at Murakami with SocratesNY, Chege, myself and my two dates, we ended back up at Scandello and reunited with the rest of the group. We got our table on the outside patio and our bottles and I was talking to guys letting Mary and Adrianna do some drinking and talking to other girls. I figured I was pretty much set for the night and weekend and didn't really have to do anything else. Boy. Was I fucking wrong!!
Mary and Adrianna are talking to all the girls that stop by the table to talk to the rest of the group and pretty soon they ask me about how I feel about this girl or that girl and I brush it off by saying yes to one. No to that one. Maybe to that one. This goes on for a bit until we get to the inside dance club area and a group of girls follows up to the table. One of the girls was named Maria who I had been with on my last trip to Scandello in November and she had spent Friday-Sunday with me in the hotel. She was a bit shy and she was just chilling while her friend was talking to my friends. Mary got her a drink and they started talking. Meanwhile, I was busy talking to Adrianna and she showed me a tall slim girl who I had noticed the day before but didn't talk to her. She said that she might be good to join us for my next trip in April. So I told her to talk to her and gauge her interest. I spent my time talking to my friends and trying to hook them up for the night while the girls talked to their new friends. Eventually, I got bored of trying to hook up my friends and sat down in the middle of the four girls. Well. Adrianna grabbed me and kissed me in front of her new friend and then the new girl leaned in to kiss me and we made out for a while. We will call her Steph. Adrianna wanted her to join us for the night so I said let's see since I was still quite sober 🤣.
Mary saw me kiss this new girl and decided to introduce herself which was a full blown on kiss between the two girls. So. I was like. Fuck. This might get crazy but let's see what happens. She sat back down next to Maria and Maria wanted a kiss so they started making out and I sat in the middle waiting to see what happens next.
Next was more drinks and the girls dancing on the floor with each other and getting pretty handsy with each other while all the guys definitely enjoyed the show. More bottles were bought and I was getting more drunk. So Steph asked me if I like MD. And I was like what is that? So she types it in my phone. Which is Ecstasy. And I was like fuck yes. So she takes out a packet of it from her purse and dumps it in my hand. I taste it and it tastes like shit but she says it is good so I was like whatever. The shit tastes horrible but it starts to work in about 15-20 minutes and I get the sweats, which then changes to the chills and then I get the euphoria and that is when it feels awesome. The girls notice my change and they all start running their hands and fingernails up and down my face, my hair, my arms, over my pants and I am in heaven. At this point, I quit drinking and change to water.
Pretty much all the guys have their girls so we all decide to head out and head back to the my room. I ask my girls what's up and they want to take back the other girls. I said are they down with everything and they said yes. So I was like fuck it!! Let's go!!
Back in the room. There are three guys and six girls running around. We have alcohol in the room and girls are dancing in varying states of undress and some are showing it all. There is weed in the balcony and making out and everyone is just having a fun time. Soon enough, the other girls want to return back to the room with their respective guys and I am in the room with four girls. Well what's next? Time to play!! I start with the new girl Steph who has an a nice pair of tits to suck on. Adriana is making out with he while I suck her pussy. Mary and Maria are exploring each other and we are all tangled in one big mess of arms and legs. Steph is super turned on and wants me to fuck her. So I look at Adriana and she whispers in her ear and Steph says she has her recent tests and she is clean so off I go to town. Mary is watching me and wants me to fuck Maria while Maria is eating her out. So I oblige and it goes on like this for a couple of hours till I just pass out of exhaustion. I was just exchanging between the girls as per their request and the combination of X, Cialis and alcohol kept me hard but wasn't able to cum.
Maria wakes up early and she has to leave so I pay her and she is gone. Wasn't really interested in keeping her as she is too shy and doesn't really throw herself in the party. The other three wake up and Steph wants to stay all weekend with us so we agree to her getting a rapid test and she leaves to get her clothes and comes back in time for dinner.
Friday night we all went to dinner with the guys at Banana cafe and out to Mahume bar which was pretty dead so we called it an early night and chilled in the room with more X and drinks and sex all night long.
Sunday morning, Adriana woke me up with some playful tugging and wanted me to fuck her while the others slept. So I said sure. And in the middle she stopped and asked if I wanted to fuck her in the ass. I said. Fuck yea and she grabbed some lube and slid it into her ass. We started in doggy and finished with her on top. She took a good pounding and never complained. Then she said she prefers it in the shower so I said we will do that the next morning.
Saturday night, we had dinner at Rico Parilla which was excellent meat and service and then hit up SubAster Bar which was a total flop and then we went to VillaJK with our respective dates. More X was taken and everyone was feeling good. We ended up back at the hotel at 430 am and more of the same till about 630 am till we fell asleep.
Sunday was chill day and we just hung out recovering and got a restful night of sleep the first in four days and we all went to bed early Sunday evening.
Monday morning. I woke up and teased Adriana about her wanting to fuck in the shower so she said sure. We got in the shower and she put it in her pussy first while getting her asshole ready. Then she slid it into her ass and let me finish inside and she said that she can't wait till we see each other in April. The girls all left by Monday afternoon and I packed my bags and checked out of the suite and headed to Scandello for my last hurrah.
I spent my Monday afternoon at Scandello till my flight left to come back home at 11 pm. It was a chill Monday with drinks and taking up two different girls to the room to get my last shots out.
This trip had to be the best I have experienced in all my trips to Brazil. The combination of the room and Mary who kept all the others in line throughout the weekend helped a lot to make this work out. I don't know if I will do this again or if it will happen again with the same results.
Also. For some of the posters who need pics for proof. Here is one attached with 5 of the 6 girls on my bathroom at the Grand Hyatt. Four of the girls in the pics were mine for the night 🤣.
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[QUOTE=Anaggie;2981002]Foreword everyone mongers differently and everyone has different outcomes.[/QUOTE]A very entertaining report.
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[QUOTE=Anaggie;2981002]....... For some of the posters who need pics for proof. Here is one attached with 5 of the 6 girls on my bathroom at the Grand Hyatt. Four of the girls in the pics were mine for the night 🤣.[/QUOTE]Man, Manuel Ferrara will envy you and that pic needs to be put in the POD.
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[QUOTE=Zeyto;2978400]I really wish we her able to save posts to keep as a reference. This will definitely help me when I go back to SP in April. I never did the rooms at Casarao, I would also just pick one I liked every night and bring them back to my hotel. But I guess for this trip I'll get the room for an hour and just take the ones I had a real good time with to my hotel. I take it that its 2 pops in the hour correct or is that something between you and the garota?[/QUOTE]Scandallos seem to be pricey, compared to photoacompanhantes. You can get some stunners for about 500 R there and save yourself the entry and room fee.
I have only been to Sao Paulo once is there something that I might be missing here?
Also, What is Pix incentives?
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Do I need to say it, KKK? Great trip report, Anaggie. Obviously, I love hearing about your success with 4 or 5 lovelies. What I find particularly informative was the way you explain to others how you went about finding the right girls for your menage starting with Mary. Yep, that is how it is done!
On a minor note, I agree with you that the Hyatt does not have a great location, and its neighborhood is not very interesting for my daily walkabout. I usually Uber somewhere else to take my walk, but the Hyatt remains one of my favorite hotels in SP. The staff at the Hyatt is 1st rate and they almost always upgrade my reservation to a King BR facing the river, high floor, or when available to their 1st class, 1 bedroom suite (no balcony, however, boo ho ho). I also like and make use of their pool & garden area where us peons can have a smoke with our girls. 555.
Rock on,
A. H.
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[QUOTE=Anaggie;2981002]Also. For some of the posters who need pics for proof. Here is one attached with 5 of the 6 girls on my bathroom at the Grand Hyatt. Four of the girls in the pics were mine for the night 🤣.[/QUOTE]One picture is worth a thousand words LMAO!
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[QUOTE=Anaggie;2981002]This trip had to be the best I have experienced in all my trips to Brazil.[/QUOTE]Yes, I witnessed Anaggie taking things to insane levels I can only dream.
Early on in the evening he mentioned that he has a big plan for the night. Ok! How big it can be? I thought maybe he would open an expensive bottle or get 2 girls to do dupla etc. As the night progressed he kept adding one hottie after another to his growing harem. At some point I was quite concerned there wouldn't be any hotties left if he keeps going like that, so I rushed to the floor to find one. A couple of goratas said they are not interested because they are waiting to get Anaggie's attention so they too can join his harem. Ok. Whatever! I then approached another hot gorata. She asked me "quantas garotas eu estou levando". "apenas um", I responded. She looked at me like I am a cheap bastard and said, "minimo duas garotas". WTF. Luckily Scandallo has hundreds of girls so there wasn't any trouble finding a girl.
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[QUOTE=Lalabo;2981220]Yes, I witnessed Anaggie taking things to insane levels I can only dream.
Early on in the evening he mentioned that he has a big plan for the night. Ok! I thought maybe he would open an expensive bottle or get 2 girls to do dupla etc. As the night progressed he kept adding one hottie after another to his growing harem. At some point I was quite concerned there wouldn't be any hotties left if he keeps going like that, so I rushed to the floor to find one. A couple of goratas said they are not interested because they are waiting to get Anaggie's attention so they too can join his harem. Ok. Whatever! I then approached another hot gorata. She asked me "quantas garotas eu estou levando". "apenas um", I responded. She looked at me like I am a cheap bastard and said, "mnimo duas garotas". WTF. Luckily Scandallo has hundreds of girls so there wasn't any trouble finding a girl.[/QUOTE]
🤣 what a fun weekend it was ..going thru the Brazilian hangover right now
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Quite nice weekend. Congrats.
Your girls did not have any tattoo at all. They look civilians gone wild.
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Next was more drinks and the girls dancing on the floor with each other and getting pretty handsy with each other while all the guys definitely enjoyed the show. More bottles were bought and I was getting more drunk. So Steph asked me if I like MD. And I was like what is that? So she types it in my phone. Which is Ecstasy. And I was like fuck yes. So she takes out a packet of it from her purse and dumps it in my hand. I taste it and it tastes like shit but she says it is good so I was like whatever. The shit tastes horrible but it starts to work in about 15-20 minutes and I get the sweats, which then changes to the chills and then I get the euphoria and that is when it feels awesome. The girls notice my change and they all start running their hands and fingernails up and down my face, my hair, my arms, over my pants and I am in heaven. At this point, I quit drinking and change to water.
Pretty much all the guys have their girls so we all decide to head out and head back to the my room. I ask my girls what's up and they want to take back the other girls. I said are they down with everything and they said yes. So I was like fuck it!! Let's go!!
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[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2981251]Quite nice weekend. Congrats.
Your girls did not have any tattoo at all. They look civilians gone wild.[/QUOTE]They all had tattoos. Small and discreet.
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57 chanes & casarao
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2980608]For those in SP right now, 57 friends is having a carnival party on Thursday's night Feb 6 after 8 p. There will be strip shows and more girls. The long time reception woman who speaks good English says that after 8 p the girl prices are also fixed. Are 400/ one hour and R300/ half hour. Obviously the environment is different from the boates, but worth to be a decent night alternative.[/QUOTE]I stopped by to see the strip show. Enjoyed talking to Julia at reception. Her English is great. I have known her since and enjoy Clinica Spa and another clinic that I don't remember. It was nice to see my favorite garotas in costumes such as butterflies and angels with wings. Two or three garotas from Prime and Miruna stopped by. Occasionally Ariella Ferrarz and Larina Small the brasilera ANAL porno actriz show up to 57 Chanes on special events nights to support the amigas. Larina is knocked up eight months preggo about to pop any day. Her ass is still available for yall into preggo garotas. I think it was Indy Clinica. Had three preggos garotas on wassap.
To each his own. 57 channels is a nice hangout spot for the other garotas after the clinical work is done.
After an hour or two I bounced to Casaro. Damn, I like the place more and more. Arrived midnight. It was fvcking crowded. The back bar was open. This time I talked to Loria Branca Chicas. Same deal $500 brl reais for an hour. I ran into two morena chicas from Tangara and one from abbora. Shit, I didn't remember banging none of them. They sure as hell they remembered me. Pk. , hugs kisses, hands roaming, they were pulling on my johnson while drinking beers. BTW what the hell happened to all the blondes at Abbora? Don't know if it was an off night. The presentation lineup had 10 ten dark-haired or brown hair average garotas in a row before a couple of hot blondes showed up. Finally, I am in good with the receptionist there. The lineup during my visit was not the overwritten hot blondes in a row selection.
I took two Casarao garotas for a session, The next day we all met up for an afternoon session at the Hotel for Lovers at Jabaquara metro.
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[QUOTE=ArmnHammer69;2980765]3 nights in So Paulo review. After 5 years I have returned to my favourite club on earth Scandallo lounge. Arrived at 10 pm to the club after 10 hours flying on a Monday night. Big Outside patio was closed and half of the night club maybe 70 girls in the club. Enjoyed my first with only one girl. 1000 for the girl and service was great as said here before between 1000-1200 reals for 95 percent of the girls. Day two back to Scandallo for a Tuesday night probably 150 girls and the full club was open and outside patio. Took a hot blonde mid twenties with nice big fake tits wearing a bikini top. Great service 5 and half inches of Deepthroat can't complain with 3/4. Decided to check out casarao club later that night. Couple decent girls there the level of rio terma is best to describe it. Had a great time with a bubbly brunette that was dancing around. 500 reals for the hour.
Wednesdayhit up Tangar at 6 15 girls there. Took Isabella for half hour think like 170 reals. 3 skinnier younger girls that were worth my time in my opinion. Rushed from there straight to Scandallo before 7 pm for the free dinner in theory. Had the chicken and the baby burgers they are delicious. Enjoyed the scenery probably 75 girls there by 7 for free dinners from guys. Had a girl the night before quote 1500 but she was as hot brunette but I said no to stand up for the team. Day two she approached me and I asked again and this time she said yes. Great service model body. Later that night a skinny but gorgeous blonde caught my eye. She started at 2000 reals and I just walked away. I'll try her again next week Before I leave. Later that night took a fitness girl which I'm attracted to you. Strong legs and abs. Service was amazing top10 fucks if my life. Deepthroat 6. 5 inches and crazy wild passionate sex. Got her number because she's a keeper.
Cutting my rio and BUZIOS trip short to go back to So Paulo! I would much rather pay $1000-1200 reals a girl plus hotel for top shelf over $800 reals for mediocre service in rio! Centaurus is the op shelf but had 2 girls only offer CBJ out of 3. Every girl in Scandallo gave me a very long BBBJ of course I say this to all eat that pussy if your good at it like me it makes them go crazy in return. Rio is good because you can pretend you're there for the beach while running to every terma. But if I had a week to live I would find myself in Scandallo for half of it!
Coming back for Saturday night! Any advice on where to watch Super Bowl this Sunday with hot girls / waitresses? Hooters style? I wish Scandallo was open![/QUOTE]Also forgot that I snagged some drink menu photos from Scandallo lounge for everyone.
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Hooters
[QUOTE=ArmnHammer69;2981901]Also forgot that I snagged some drink menu photos from Scandallo lounge for everyone.[/QUOTE]Did you go to Hooters in Sao Paulo? I actually saw it the last time I was down there. Game sucked but I bet them tits and ass looked good LOL!
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I suppose the prices went up because the increase of IVA tax in Brasil to 28%.
The highest in the region.
[QUOTE=ArmnHammer69;2981901]Also forgot that I snagged some drink menu photos from Scandallo lounge for everyone.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Anaggie;2981002]Foreword everyone mongers differently and everyone has different outcomes. We read and we don't judge[/QUOTE]Awesome report, although some parts of that adventure may have been too hardcore personally.
I'm very curious about the total damage?
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[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;2982242]Where is the best place to find girls typically 18-22 ? With tight bodies and not so much plastic.[/QUOTE]I personally do not like silly cones or pumped up butts either, but beleive me, I do real good in Sao Paulo, so I think you will find plenty of SP girls that fit your preferences, but it should be noted that silicones and large bundas are everywhere. So, my advice is shop around and don't take what you don't want.
One caveat, however, is that some Brazilian working girls age remarkably well unlike Thai girls, for example, some of whom start to look like old women after 32. Short story: I once met this very attractive, slender, all-natural spinner in Scandallo. She was very attractive, friendly and great in bed, so I sessioned with her several times. I originally thought she was around 25 ish. Turned out she was actually 33! I was genuinely surprised, but I checked my reaction when she told me this and it was; I don't care. She had already proven herself to me to be a great gal and despite her age, she looked great, was in real good shape, AND she really knew how to show me a good time in and out of bed. KKK.
But, like I said, young (under 25), attractive, slender, all natural girls can be found in most venues in varying numbers. You will definitely find such creatures in the boates like Scandallo, Bomboa, Casarao Augusta, and in some clinicas as well. Enjoy the hunt!
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[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;2982242]Where is the best place to find girls typically 18-22 ? With tight bodies and not so much plastic.[/QUOTE]When I was there in 2019 both Abboboro and Enjoy had a small number of girls aged 18/19. The down side is they were inexperienced.
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Anyone in SP Jan 23 - Jan29?
Hello All,
So many infos, thanks to all members and a special mention to Steve.
Top 3 Boates: Scandallo, Friends 57, Casarao.
Top 3 Clinicas: Sharon premium, Palms and?
Top 3 swinger club: Hot bar, Code club and? (Enigma, Marrakesh, Spicy, Inner, Villa imperium?
Top 3 nightclubs to pick-up regular girl, any recommandation: Love story?
Anyone this week-end in SP? Especially Sunday and Monday night for a beer and going for fun.
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Luxurious Clinicas
My upcoming trip to Brazil is getting close. I will be spending a good deal of it in Sao Paulo, and there are so many clubs and boate opportunities that I know I just won't be able to get to and enjoy all of them the way I want to. So, I have to make some choices. When it comes to the clinicas, I decided that I definitely want to hit all of the absolute most nicest ones. Money will not be an issue. So, with that, I'm looking for some feedback on where to find the most luxe clinicas in Sampa. I have done my homework and have a long list, but some experienced guidance would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for any advice!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2982879]My upcoming trip to Brazil is getting close. I will be spending a good deal of it in Sao Paulo, and there are so many clubs and boate opportunities that I know I just won't be able to get to and enjoy all of them the way I want to. So, I have to make some choices. When it comes to the clinicas, I decided that I definitely want to hit all of the absolute most nicest ones. Money will not be an issue. So, with that, I'm looking for some feedback on where to find the most luxe clinicas in Sampa. I have done my homework and have a long list, but some experienced guidance would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for any advice![/QUOTE]High end CLínicas.
Oro, the palms, lotus, Baronesa, Bali spa, and Sharon. I'm sure there are others. Presentation by iPad, no in person. You can ask on WhatsApp for a website link of the girls photos. Only oro and the palms didn't give me. Cost are similar R700-800. Most places, you pay the girl her fee around R400 after the session and the room fee to the CLínica when you exit. Some places have fancier, bigger rooms for more money.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2982879]My upcoming trip to Brazil is getting close. I will be spending a good deal of it in Sao Paulo, and there are so many clubs and boate opportunities that I know I just won't be able to get to and enjoy all of them the way I want to. So, I have to make some choices. When it comes to the clinicas, I decided that I definitely want to hit all of the absolute most nicest ones. Money will not be an issue. So, with that, I'm looking for some feedback on where to find the most luxe clinicas in Sampa. I have done my homework and have a long list, but some experienced guidance would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for any advice![/QUOTE]Most luxurious and nicest of the high end clinicas I've been to are:
1) The Palms.
2) Oro Spa.
3) Lotus Lounge.
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Fun at casarsi
Another fun night at Casaro. I went early 11.30 pm. Met two twenty-two years old young fcking hit Branca and exotic Morena. I session with both earlier in the week. They immediately remembered me. They are fine-ass garotas that do the nasty. I buy them only energy drinks. Hedge-bull zero because they are going to perform in bed. Acrobatic tricks of the tongue and pussy. I had to be in top-notch shape to handle the explosive energy of two, horny-as-hell, twenty-two-year-olds amped on strong marula and energy drinks. Reminded me of the awesome session with an exotic nineteenth-year-old in Monte Carlis. Starting to enjoy casarao because the network of garotas there is deep. I leched on both faces. They licked it off each other not spilling a drop. Sheetz. Damage $300 reais half hour. With pix incentive to do more nasty stuff, cum snow balling -/ live. Bounced after the session. Freaking garotas were pulling out there toys to do each other. Ymmv your experience carts I enjoyed mine. Help to speak Portuguese and get a room with low number, they have stripper pole.
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High end clinica tips
[QUOTE=TheCane;2982879]My upcoming trip to Brazil is getting close. I will be spending a good deal of it in Sao Paulo, and there are so many clubs and boate opportunities that I know I just won't be able to get to and enjoy all of them the way I want to. So, I have to make some choices. When it comes to the clinicas, I decided that I definitely want to hit all of the absolute most nicest ones. Money will not be an issue. So, with that, I'm looking for some feedback on where to find the most luxe clinicas in Sampa. I have done my homework and have a long list, but some experienced guidance would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for any advice![/QUOTE]Hi Cane, happy for your trip. Sharon, Baronesas, Taj Mahal, and Lotus make it pretty easy to check their site, ask who is available via WhatsApp, and book a day in advance. Baronesas and Sharon are open earlier (10 am or 11) which helps if you want to space out sessions, early AM then late day (vs. The mid tier Clinicas that mostly get going after 1 pm). The Palms and Oro are nice but they don't have much info on their sites so it's helpful to go there when they open around 12 to see your tablet options and make an immediate plan or later day appointment. Last but not least, Anavrin isn't as high end (it's the price of Prime) but they have a great site and also make day in advance appointments easy, and are open extra early on Saturdays (9 AM), and the setup is more like a classic wood floor apartment which has a nice vibe.
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[QUOTE=Nebulousity;2983391]Hi Cane, happy for your trip. Sharon, Baronesas, Taj Mahal, and Lotus make it pretty easy to check their site, ask who is available via WhatsApp, and book a day in advance. Baronesas and Sharon are open earlier (10 am or 11) which helps if you want to space out sessions, early AM then late day (vs. The mid tier Clinicas that mostly get going after 1 pm). The Palms and Oro are nice but they don't have much info on their sites so it's helpful to go there when they open around 12 to see your tablet options and make an immediate plan or later day appointment. Last but not least, Anavrin isn't as high end (it's the price of Prime) but they have a great site and also make day in advance appointments easy, and are open extra early on Saturdays (9 AM), and the setup is more like a classic wood floor apartment which has a nice vibe.[/QUOTE]A more obvious tip for high end clinicas. When they give you the iPad, they will only show you the currently available girls. Look through the app menu and usually you can see all the girls. Sometime you have get the reception to give you accesss. They have face photos and video but they are professionally edited. Many of the girls have fixed schedules and you schedule ahead for the ones you pick.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2982879]So, with that, I'm looking for some feedback on where to find the most luxe clinicas in Sampa.[/QUOTE]Based on my experience, partly it depends on the room you got. Palms has the best room and most consistent. Others may have good room and small (bad) room. If I were assigned a bad room, then I would tell you it not good. But if I were assigned a good room, then I would tell you it's great. If you can. Find out the room types available and see if you can choose.
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Last night in Sao Paulo tonight, had a great time here over the past two weeks.
Been in Casarao almost every night as I won't pay the prices of Scandallo etc but also had a couple of night's at 57 Friends too.
I'm staying in Avenida Paulista in an Air BnB and it definitely seems safer around here now compared to my last trip, with an increased police presence. You still have to be careful of pick pockets on Rua Augusta in the early hours of the morning though.
The talent in Casarao definitely seems to have gone up a notch. The majority are average, some hideous but definitely some really cute ones with everything in between. 99% qoute you between 300-400 for 30 minutes and most will accept the 300 if they qoute you more.
Had a good range of girls there, a blonde, multiple morenas, couple of mulattas and a black girl. Everyone has delivered good to amazing service, God bless these Brazilian girls and their high sex drives. It's as if Brazilian women has the sex drives to match us mongers.
I love Sao Paulo but just wish there was one or two decent boates in the Casarao price range as going there everynight alone can get tedious but 57 friends is an adequate alternative for the odd night.
The downside of Sao Paulo to me is the constant stink of cigarette smoke from it being blown into your face everywhere you go but that is massively outweighed by the women and food.
BTW I speak very miminal Portuguese, so if you're considering going but don't speak Portuguese, please don't let this put you off going.
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Super Report!
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2983468]Last night in Sao Paulo tonight, had a great time here over the past two weeks.
Been in Casarao almost every night as I won't pay the prices of Scandallo etc but also had a couple of night's at 57 Friends too.
I'm staying in Avenida Paulista in an Air BnB and it definitely seems safer around here now compared to my last trip, with an increased police presence. You still have to be careful of pick pockets on Rua Augusta in the early hours of the morning though.
The talent in Casarao definitely seems to have gone up a notch. The majority are average, some hideous but definitely some really cute ones with everything in between. 99% qoute you between 300-400 for 30 minutes and most will accept the 300 if they qoute you more.
Had a good range of girls there, a blonde, multiple morenas, couple of mulattas and a black girl. Everyone has delivered good to amazing service, God bless these Brazilian girls and their high sex drives. It's as if Brazilian women has the sex drives to match us mongers.
I love Sao Paulo but just wish there was one or two decent boates in the Casarao price range as going there everynight alone can get tedious but 57 friends is an adequate alternative for the odd night.
The downside of Sao Paulo to me is the constant stink of cigarette smoke from it being blown into your face everywhere you go but that is massively outweighed by the women and food.
BTW I speak very miminal Portuguese, so if you're considering going but don't speak Portuguese, please don't let this put you off going.[/QUOTE]This is a super excellent report reminding us all you don't need to be a millionaire and roll at Scandallo every night! Sure it's a blast if you hve the coin. But Casarao and 57 can deliver hot girls at $50 usd and that should be in everyone's budget. Get to Brazil. You will not be sorry!
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Diversity
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2983628]This is a super excellent report reminding us all you don't need to be a millionaire and roll at Scandallo every night! Sure it's a blast if you hve the coin. But Casarao and 57 can deliver hot girls at $50 usd and that should be in everyone's budget. Get to Brazil. You will not be sorry![/QUOTE]I wouldn't roll into Scandallo every night whether I had the coin or not. There's just too many other target rich places in Sampa to see, especially when it comes to the clinicas. I guess diversity is a bad word these days huh? Well not when it comes to mongering in Sao Paulo!
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All I can say I WOW!
I will be visiting Brazil in about a month for the first time and have been doing some research. I am a senior member on the USA site. All I can say is WOW! I am blown away by all the great information the members of the Sao Paolo and Rio communities have posted. Scandallo is number one on my list. I have read this post several times because there is so much information take in. I was wondering about a few of things. I do not speak Portuguese I wonder if I can I get by with google translate? In your post you said one of the girls offered MD. Is it relatively easy to find Ecstasy in the Boates? Will It be a big deal if I ask one of the girls if it is available?
Thanks again for all your information. If anyone wants info on NYC I can supply. I will tell you though based on what I have read hear NYC sucks by comparison. The Asian spas are probably the best way to go.
HK.
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[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2983468]..............The talent in Casarao definitely seems to have gone up a notch........[/QUOTE]I'm liking what I've been reading about Casarao of late. I have an upcoming full trip to Rio, the first since Help closed. I'm thinking I should make the bus trip to SP for a bit.
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[QUOTE=HardKnox;2983683]I will be visiting Brazil in about a month for the first time and have been doing some research. I am a senior member on the USA site. All I can say is WOW! I am blown away by all the great information the members of the Sao Paolo and Rio communities have posted. Scandallo is number one on my list. I have read this post several times because there is so much information take in. I was wondering about a few of things. I do not speak Portuguese I wonder if I can I get by with google translate? In your post you said one of the girls offered MD. Is it relatively easy to find Ecstasy in the Boates? Will It be a big deal if I ask one of the girls if it is available?
Thanks again for all your information. If anyone wants info on NYC I can supply. I will tell you though based on what I have read hear NYC sucks by comparison. The Asian spas are probably the best way to go.
HK.[/QUOTE]You will be just fine with Google translate.
As for the MD ask once you trust the girl. Same like in the USA keep it on the down low. Your girl might not have it but probably knows someone who does.
Enjoy your trip !!
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[QUOTE=HardKnox;2983683]I will be visiting Brazil in about a month for the first time and have been doing some research. I am a senior member on the USA site. All I can say is WOW! I am blown away by all the great information the members of the Sao Paolo and Rio communities have posted. Scandallo is number one on my list. I have read this post several times because there is so much information take in. I was wondering about a few of things. I do not speak Portuguese I wonder if I can I get by with google translate? In your post you said one of the girls offered MD. Is it relatively easy to find Ecstasy in the Boates? Will It be a big deal if I ask one of the girls if it is available?.[/QUOTE]MD is all over the place in Sao Paulo and girls have connections. One caveat though: most of it will be MDA. Finding Molly or Eve is less easy and girls are not knowledgeable about the difference. MDA is not very empathogenic, not good for sex IMO.
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Great informatiion!
[QUOTE=XXL;2983907]MD is all over the place in Sao Paulo and girls have connections. One caveat though: most of it will be MDA. Finding Molly or Eve is less easy and girls are not knowledgeable about the difference. MDA is not very empathogenic, not good for sex IMO.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much for you response. Probably the prudent thing to do is avoid altogether.
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Blue pills
Got a question for those who take the blue pills. Noticed some of you guys go on marathons. Do you guys do multiple pills in a day? Recommendations are 1 x day but if they last 5 hrs, do you do one for your afternoon romps and then another for Scandello? Is that safe?
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[QUOTE=LvHobby;2983941]Got a question for those who take the blue pills. Noticed some of you guys go on marathons. Do you guys do multiple pills in a day? Recommendations are 1 x day but if they last 5 hrs, do you do one for your afternoon romps and then another for Scandello? Is that safe?[/QUOTE]100 MG is the maximum dose per 24 hours. Pills come in different strengths: 20 MG, 50 MG, 100 MG and possibly others. I'm an old guy and 50 MG works great and lasts about 36 hours. Viagra / Sildenafil was originally developed as a blood pressure control medication (antihypertensive) and it is very potent. It also interacts with other medications in a bad way and can cause permanant eye problems. In the USA its strictly by prescription for good reason. Its very risky to exceed the recommended dosage: many things can go terribly wrong. Someone may get away with exceeding the recommended dose, but that doesn't mean the next time they try it that they'll be ok. One pass also does not mean that the next monger that tries it will necessarily get away with it either. Cheers, A.
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[QUOTE=LvHobby;2983941]Got a question for those who take the blue pills. Noticed some of you guys go on marathons. Do you guys do multiple pills in a day? Recommendations are 1 x day but if they last 5 hrs, do you do one for your afternoon romps and then another for Scandello? Is that safe?[/QUOTE]People who need erection boosting for more than the time-span of Sildenafil usually resort to Cialis. This being said, I re-dosed on Sildenafil often enough during my partying years. I get side-effects from Cialis.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2984101]People who need erection boosting for more than the time-span of Sildenafil usually resort to Cialis. This being said, I re-dosed on Sildenafil often enough during my partying years. I get side-effects from Cialis.[/QUOTE]It is usually the other way around. Most side-effects come from Viagra (Sildenafil). Cialis (Tadalafil) is generally considered the milder although longer lasting drug, but everybody's reaction to these pharmaceuticals is different. One should consult one's doctor before taking either medication. I prefer Sildenafil 50 MG or 100 MG because it is sure fire and lasts (for me) all night long while Cialis occasionally lets me down even though Cialis is supposed to be longer lasting.
Cialis 5 MG taken once a day is very popular because most guys on it don't have to worry about timing. Cialis 5 MG daily is also prescribed for enlarged prostate (BPH) issues, so it CAN kill 2 birds with one stone.
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One more thing: on active days when I go clinica hunting in the early afternoon and go out to the boates much later at night, I might take 50 MG Viagra (a 100 MG pill split in half) about 30 minutes before I arrive in Moema usually around 1 pm and later if I decide to hit a boate I will take another 50 MG Viagra about 30 minutes before I arrive at Scandallo or some other place around 9 pm or later. This way I am not over medicating as I adjust for Viagra's shorter time effectiveness.
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[QUOTE=HardKnox;2983683]In your post you said one of the girls offered MD. Is it relatively easy to find Ecstasy in the Boates? Will It be a big deal if I ask one of the girls if it is available? [/QUOTE]I would always be wary of someone offering MDMA. Even in the US, it's not going to be real. I got some from a girl in Bogota a few years back and it felt right for the most part, but I took the risk because she was bisexual and brought a friend I had a threesome with already.
That's why I started to bring my own since last year. I test with it a kit and know it's real. I last used it aboard with a girl in Medellin in November and once she used it, she realized what she used in the past was fake because it gave her side effects she didn't feel with the real thing. Of course she loved it and was a big weed smoker, which is my favorite combination of illicit stuff.
I'm currently in SP then Rio next week, so hopefully I will meet the right person to use it with.
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Cialis and Me
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2984127]One more thing: on active days when I go clinica hunting in the early afternoon and go out to the boates much later at night, I might take 50 MG Viagra (a 100 MG pill split in half) about 30 minutes before I arrive in Moema usually around 1 pm and later if I decide to hit a boate I will take another 50 MG Viagra about 30 minutes before I arrive at Scandallo or some other place around 9 pm or later. This way I am not over medicating as I adjust for Viagra's shorter time effectiveness.[/QUOTE]I used to do Viagra and a lot like Axel. Kinda manage dosage through the day when having multiple bangs. Cialis is way better for this kind of thing because it lasts a few days. And I have almost zero side effects with Cialis.
My nominal dose is 10 MG and that should last three days and it generally does. I might do a 5 MG boost a couple days in or even 10 if it seems right. Doc cautioned about doing 10's back to back to back.
While on this topic. The Cialis def makes it harder for me to cum when drinking a lot. I'the been hesistant to back off the dosage for fear of a room failure but I have a local girl often so a fail would be no biggie. Went down to 5 MG and had no problems staying hard or cumming. It was def better in balance. Got to be a a girl who can turn you on and has great BJ. But for me it turned out less is more.
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Priapism
The other potential risk with overdosing these types of meds is priapism. A surgical emergency.
[QUOTE=LvHobby;2983941]Got a question for those who take the blue pills. Noticed some of you guys go on marathons. Do you guys do multiple pills in a day? Recommendations are 1 x day but if they last 5 hrs, do you do one for your afternoon romps and then another for Scandello? Is that safe?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Aimless;2984092] Viagra / Sildenafil was originally developed as a blood pressure control medication (antihypertensive) and it is very potent. It also interacts with other medications in a bad way and can cause permanant eye problems. In the USA its strictly prescribed for good reason. Its very risky to exceed the recommended dosage: many things can go terribly wrong. [/QUOTE]Viagra was stuffing up my nose. I either could breathe or have sex. I prefer to breathe. I switched to Cialis. It has been good for several years, but now 10 MG does not seem to help as much, especially with women I am not attracted to or women who are unaffectionate.
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Why?
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2984229]Viagra was stuffing up my nose. I either could breathe or have sex. I prefer to breathe. I switched to Cialis. It has been good for several years, but now 10 MG does not seem to help as much, especially with women I am not attracted to or women who are unaffectionate.[/QUOTE]Why would you even be trying to fuck women you're not attracted to in the first place? Totally don't get that. Maybe that's the problem. Stick to fucking who otherwise would have the capability of making your dick get hard in the first place, pills or no pills. Just don't get guys who try to fuck women who they don't even find to be attractive. And then get disappointed when they can't get a boner!
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Didn't even know there were pills that would do this. Now I am scared of taking any pills.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2984229]Viagra was stuffing up my nose. I either could breathe or have sex. I prefer to breathe. I switched to Cialis. It has been good for several years, but now 10 MG does not seem to help as much, especially with women I am not attracted to or women who are unaffectionate.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2984300]Why would you even be trying to fuck women you're not attracted to in the first place? Totally don't get that. Maybe that's the problem. Stick to fucking who otherwise would have the capability of making your dick get hard in the first place, pills or no pills. Just don't get guys who try to fuck women who they don't even find to be attractive. And then get disappointed when they can't get a boner![/QUOTE]Probably because most of the girls were below average in looks, and the few that were above average failed the interview quickly and looked to be delivering bad service. And the guy already paid for his trip expenses.
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Introduction + SP advice
Greetings fellow mongers.
My name is Tyrese. I've been mongering for around 10 years now but have never been to So Paulo or Brazil in general. Next week will be my first trip and I'm beyond excited. Currently living in Miami and have taken multiple trips to Colombia. My main hunting grounds. During my early years, I would go to Mexico often since it was convenient (short flight from Miami) but I found Colombia to be a better bang for my buck. I've been reading a lot on this forum about Brazil the past year and decided to book the ticket.
I'm not even going to bother going to Rio since I've heard many stories of people getting robbed there. I will be in So Paulo for 10 days and want to hit up all the main boates multiple times (Scandallo, Casarao, Bomboa, etc.) to get a "feel" for them. As far as clinicas, I'm not really into massages that much so might just go 2-3 times during my entire trip. I'the much rather see escorts during the day and get a love motel (side note: I had an extremely hard time finding hotels / AirBnbs that were guest friendly). I'm experienced in booking love motels (Mexico, Colombia) so it's fine with me.
I will be going solo this trip, even though to me mongering is more fun with friends. I would love to meet up with some of you during my stay there and party hard haha. To be honest, I haven't really been practicing my Portuguese that much so it's going to be a completely new experience trying to interact with the people. I am fairly decent in Spanish but wouldn't say I'm fluent by any stretch. So, I'm pretty sure that won't help me out that much in Brazil.
Anyways, I have a few questions in regards to the boates, mainly Scandallo, that I would like some advice on. I made sure to read through the reports to make sure I'm not asking the same questions again.
Here are my questions:
1. How important are looks and dressing nice? I have been seeing reports on here of some guys getting quoted BRL 1500-2000 and even more in Scandallo. Is it really common now to be quoted that much, even if you are a solid looking dude? I mean with all due respect, a lot of guys that are into mongering don't exactly look their best (LOL) but I do try to take care of my hygiene and looks. Also, is it better to pay with cash or credit card there? I plan on getting there before 7 pm to avoid the extra BRL 200 fee.
2. I have accepted that my Portuguese will be very bad going to these boates. Is it common to see the guys and girls just whipping out Google Translate to communicate? I just feel like using a translator when talking to the girls there would kill the vibe. It's hard to describe but I can't imagine their pussy getting wet from a gringo typing into a translator.
3. I have been to strip clubs in Mexico and Colombia, and I would mostly ficha the girls I wanted to fuck. Ficha as in buy them a "girl drink", negotiate, and then go to the room. I am also very touchy with those girls (grabbing their tits and ass while tipping them $1's). I'm guessing I can't do that at Scandallo or else I'll get kicked out and probably beaten up. So, how would I go about approaching them? I read on here somewhere that using some of the BRL 300 consumable to buy them a drink gives you at least 30-60 minutes to talk to them. I can't imagine my gringo ass talking that much without using Google Translate for most of the time. Also, since the place looks like a big night club, it's hard to tell which girls are occupied by other guys. I'm very respectful when it comes to other mongers so I'm not the one to cock block and steal a girl (I've had that happen a few times to me in Colombia. Pissed me off so much). I am so used to tipping girls with dollar bills and groping them that Scandallo and other boates sounds like a completely new concept to me.
4. When entering Scandallo, can I just show them my drivers license as an ID? Or do I need to bring my passport / passport card to get in? Like I said, I ain't paying BRL 500 after 7 pm so I'll make sure to leave around 6 ish. Also, I plan on downloading Wise and setting up Pix before I go. I have heard "Pix incentives" thrown around this forum often but can anyone care to explain what that means?
5. What are the best nights to check out Scandallo, Casarao, and Bomboa? For some reason, I have heard Saturdays are the worst days to go since most of the girls take off and go out with friends. This is opposite in Mexico and Colombia. The weekends are usually the busiest times in terms of talent. I just don't want these boates to end up being a sausage fest when I go because let me tell you I've experienced that one too many times. The plan is to hit up Scandallo first then end the night at either Casarao or Bomboa. Are there any other boates worth checking out?
That's enough for now. If all goes well during this trip, I could see myself coming back every year. Who knows. I will be sure to post field reports when I'm there.
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Agree on Viagra
I agree with the posts below on taking too much Sufendil. I started it in 2021 mostly to see if I could get two pops in an hour. I have no problem getting hard but after first climax it takes me about an hour to reload for a second (what's called refractory time). I can get hard again just takes about 60 minutes to climax. Major downer so I read for some guys Sufendil lower's refractory time. For me I found that was not the case. My first time on Sufendil took 60 mil first day, 40 MG second day. My vision became blurred both times and headaches. In hindsight it was way too much and I could had a heart attack. I now very seldom take it. When I do I take never more than 20 MG and never more than one day. In fact, if I do take it these days it's usually half a pill for 10 mil. I think if you take a lot it actually makes you hard but you feel less, which can majorly prolong climax. I take a while naturally so that is a no go. Also, if I drink forget it. It will make me hard but again I feel less. Plus I think mentally it can mess with your confidence, which is another reason I don't use it much anymore. Whatever your reasons definitely play it safe and don't over do it.
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[QUOTE=TigerMuskie;2985051]I agree with the posts below on taking too much Sufendil. I started it in 2021 mostly to see if I could get two pops in an hour. I have no problem getting hard but after first climax it takes me about an hour to reload for a second (what's called refractory time). I can get hard again just takes about 60 minutes to climax. Major downer so I read for some guys Sufendil lower's refractory time. For me I found that was not the case. My first time on Sufendil took 60 mil first day, 40 MG second day. My vision became blurred both times and headaches. In hindsight it was way too much and I could had a heart attack. I now very seldom take it. When I do I take never more than 20 MG and never more than one day. In fact, if I do take it these days it's usually half a pill for 10 mil. I think if you take a lot it actually makes you hard but you feel less, which can majorly prolong climax. I take a while naturally so that is a no go. Also, if I drink forget it. It will make me hard but again I feel less. Plus I think mentally it can mess with your confidence, which is another reason I don't use it much anymore. Whatever your reasons definitely play it safe and don't over do it.[/QUOTE]No wonder you had a bad experience if you took Sufendil (Sufentanil?) instead of Sildenafil.
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Some notes
[QUOTE=Tyrese1;2985020]Greetings fellow mongers.
My name is Tyrese. I've been mongering for around 10 years now but have never been to So Paulo or Brazil in general. Next week will be my first trip and I'm beyond excited. Currently living in Miami and have taken multiple trips to Colombia. My main hunting grounds. During my early years, I would go to Mexico often since it was convenient (short flight from Miami) but I found Colombia to be a better bang for my buck. I've been reading a lot on this forum about Brazil the past year and decided to book the ticket.
[/QUOTE]A few notes from your questions. The daytime clinicas aren't really about the massage. The mid tier (Prime, Miruna, Tangara) usually don't have any pretense. The high end (Lotus, Baronesas, Palms) often can start with a massage but you can opt to skip it too (they will usually ask if you want it first). So if you are interested in daytime options, the clinicas are really one of the best, easiest and greatest parts of SP. The atmosphere is chill and relaxed.
1. Dressing nice isn't essential (but feel free to do so). Your looks and friendliness will probably boost you more. 2. Brazilians can be super warm and patient when it comes to using Google translate. Portuguese speakers can often understand Spanish surprisingly well too. 3. It's common at Scandallo to sit down with someone and drink or eat together for an hour, make out etc as part of the warm up, that's one of the benefits of the venue. It's not hard at all to tell who is occupied at Scandallo. 4. Take a picture of your passport and show the picture on your burner phone has worked consistently. 5. Mid week days are great for the clubs.
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Spot on!
[QUOTE=Nebulousity;2985076]A few notes from your questions. The daytime clinicas aren't really about the massage. The mid tier (Prime, Miruna, Tangara) usually don't have any pretense. The high end (Lotus, Baronesas, Palms) often can start with a massage but you can opt to skip it too (they will usually ask if you want it first). So if you are interested in daytime options, the clinicas are really one of the best, easiest and greatest parts of SP. The atmosphere is chill and relaxed.
1. Dressing nice isn't essential (but feel free to do so). Your looks and friendliness will probably boost you more. 2. Brazilians can be super warm and patient when it comes to using Google translate. Portuguese speakers can often understand Spanish surprisingly well too. 3. It's common at Scandallo to sit down with someone and drink or eat together for an hour, make out etc as part of the warm up, that's one of the benefits of the venue. It's not hard at all to tell who is occupied at Scandallo. 4. Take a picture of your passport and show the picture on your burner phone has worked consistently. 5. Mid week days are great for the clubs.[/QUOTE]I agree with all you wrote. The only thing I will add is that I have only ever gone to Scandallo on a Friday or Saturday night and it's been great. If it's supposedly better midweek then I can only imagine!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2985080]I agree with all you wrote. The only thing I will add is that I have only ever gone to Scandallo on a Friday or Saturday night and it's been great. If it's supposedly better midweek then I can only imagine![/QUOTE]Quarta-feira, Quinta-feira and Sexta-feira are very good nights at Scandallo. Sabado and Segunda-feira nights are usually slower.
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[QUOTE=Nebulousity;2985076]1. Dressing nice isn't essential (but feel free to do so). Your looks and friendliness will probably boost you more. 2. Brazilians can be super warm and patient when it comes to using Google translate. Portuguese speakers can often understand Spanish surprisingly well too. 3. It's common at Scandallo to sit down with someone and drink or eat together for an hour, make out etc as part of the warm up, that's one of the benefits of the venue. It's not hard at all to tell who is occupied at Scandallo. 4. Take a picture of your passport and show the picture on your burner phone has worked consistently. 5. Mid week days are great for the clubs.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice! In that case, I will just download Google translate on my phone and use the voice feature. Can't see myself typing all the time. Hopefully the music at the venue isn't too loud. Forgot to ask one more question: As far as negotiations go, how freaky would say Brazilian girls are compared to their Mexican / Colombian counterparts? Like have you ever paid extra for BBBJ, or was it expected for the most part? One thing I hated about the strip clubs I went to was that most girls did CBJ. I just want to make sure I'm getting my money's worth considering it's been a while since I've paid around $200 for an hour for bedroom fun. If I can get a long passionate BBBJ and then end the session with a money shot all over their face, that would be amazing.
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[QUOTE=Tyrese1;2985020]Greetings fellow mongers.
My name is Tyrese. I've been mongering for around 10 years now but have never been to So Paulo or Brazil in general. Next week will be my first trip and I'm beyond excited. Currently living in Miami and have taken multiple trips to Colombia. My main hunting grounds. During my early years, I would go to Mexico often since it was convenient (short flight from Miami) but I found Colombia to be a better bang for my buck. I've been reading a lot on this forum about Brazil the past year and decided to book the ticket.
I'm not even going to bother going to Rio since I've heard many stories of people getting robbed there. I will be in So Paulo for 10 days and want to hit up all the main boates multiple times (Scandallo, Casarao, Bomboa, etc.) to get a "feel" for them. As far as clinicas, I'm not really into massages that much so might just go 2-3 times during my entire trip. I'the much rather see escorts during the day and get a love motel (side note: I had an extremely hard time finding hotels / AirBnbs that were guest friendly). I'm experienced in booking love motels (Mexico, Colombia) so it's fine with me..[/QUOTE]I mostly stick to Scandello so here are your answers. I don't do clinicas and don't need to go to other boates.
1) You don't need to "suit up". I wear a nice pair of jeans, a polo shirt and nice sneakers. Nice cologne and being well groomed helps. Your ability to chitchat will go a long way. Prices range from 800-2 k for an hour and 1200+ for overnight. Unless you look like Chris Helmsworth, I doubt looks will give you a decent discount. Being a gringo, you will pay a "gringo" price.
2) Use your Spanish and Google. It will work just fine. Their pussy will get wet once you make a deal 😜.
3) Buy them a drink and talk to them. Groping and kissing will depend on the girl especially if you have settled on a price. Don't tip the girls for sitting with you. Lots of girls standing around and sitting down. You will know if they are with someone.
4) I use my DL as ID and it works just fine. Getting in before 7 is a great idea. I like to get there early to relax and maybe get one round in with the available girls. Then wait for the next two shifts to roll in before I make my choice for the night. Usually the first shift comes in around 12 pm, the next one is at 6 pm and girls can't come in after 9 or 10 pm unless they pay a fee. But there are some super hot (and expensive) ones who pay the fine to come in later.
5) Best nights are Tuesday / Wed / Thurs.
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Yes and More
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2985139]I mostly stick to Scandello so here are your answers. I don't do clinicas and don't need to go to other boates.
1) You don't need to "suit up". I wear a nice pair of jeans, a polo shirt and nice sneakers. Nice cologne and being well groomed helps. Your ability to chitchat will go a long way. Prices range from 800-2 k for an hour and 1200+ for overnight. Unless you look like Chris Helmsworth, I doubt looks will give you a decent discount. Being a gringo, you will pay a "gringo" price.
2) Use your Spanish and Google. It will work just fine. Their pussy will get wet once you make a deal 😜.
3) Buy them a drink and talk to them. Groping and kissing will depend on the girl especially if you have settled on a price. Don't tip the girls for sitting with you. Lots of girls standing around and sitting down. You will know if they are with someone.
4) I use my DL as ID and it works just fine. Getting in before 7 is a great idea. I like to get there early to relax and maybe get one round in with the available girls. Then wait for the next two shifts to roll in before I make my choice for the night. Usually the first shift comes in around 12 pm, the next one is at 6 pm and girls can't come in after 9 or 10 pm unless they pay a fee. But there are some super hot (and expensive) ones who pay the fine to come in later.
5) Best nights are Tuesday / Wed / Thurs.[/QUOTE]Anaggie is a vet at this and a great guy so he's def on point. I will add the following though:
1) maybe it's my boyish good looks 😝 but I've never had any girl at Scan quote me more than 1200/hr. My last trip all girls came out of the gate at 1200 or 1000. And I just said ok since it was a fair offer to start. YMMV.
2) I don't recall buying many girls drinks. If I have a bottle they might join in but I rarely bought drinks that I recall. I'the just chat her up. Making out is standard for me and if a girl doesn't want to DFK in the club (after chatting for a while) she's prob not the girl for me. I wouldn't go squeezing tits on the floor but have had several girls rub my dick for extended periods.
3) The food is excellent. Especially the dragon roll. And salmon. And it's like any regular restaurant pricing. So if you go befor 7 you might enjoy dinner.
4) You won't be disappointed on a Saturday. Still better than any club on the planet.
5) I like to do two rounds. I always do my first at Scandallo but then bop over to Casarao at 1 or 2 for a less expensive round 2 and it's fun to change venue. I don't think I'the bounce Scandallo to Bomboa. Bomboa is more similar to Scandallo in pricing. And smaller. So I might do it as a standalone experience but think it's pointless to bounce from Scandallo unless going for cheaper and different vibe.
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[QUOTE=Tyrese1;2985020]
Here are my questions:
[/QUOTE]1. I saw one regular visitor to Scandallo wearing boxers and a few times he wore a Blazer with it. I bet no other high-end club anywhere in the world would allow that. So, you can pretty much wear whatever you want at Scandallo! Dressing nice doesn't hurt.
Girls in general are attracted to good looks, personality, attitude etc. Anywhere in the world and Brazil is no exception. Based on your description you shouldn't have a problem getting very reasonable quotes. If you do receive unreasonably high quotes, just ask for "Brad Pitt" discount😉 Based on some past report you could get it for free.
You can pay for everything with Credit card without penalty except for the girl at Scandall & Bamboa. Scandallo charges 10% fee if you choose to charge payment to the girl on the card.
2. Brazilan girls are very comfortable communicating with translator apps. Your Spanish is going to help you because lots of girls understand / speak the language.
4. Driver's license is good enough.
5. Saturday and Mondays are worse compared to other days For Scandallo (Best days: Tue-Thu). Casarao is good every day except Sun and Mon. Casarao doesn't get going until midnight, so it is very convenient to swing by after visiting other places like Scandallo / Bamboa.
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[QUOTE=Tyrese1;2985020]I'the much rather see escorts during the day and get a love motel (side note: I had an extremely hard time finding hotels / AirBnbs that were guest friendly). I'm experienced in booking love motels (Mexico, Colombia) so it's fine with me.[/QUOTE]I'll take up this question. Almost all hotels in SP are girl friendly. Like hotels in the USA, you can bring guests up to your room without any questions. Meet the girls in the lobby around take them up or walk in with them if coming from a club. Girls may have to have to stop by the reception and present their ID. Presentation of ID is very common in SP. You don't have to tell the girls this will happen, they expect it. I believe there is a SP hotel section on this forum for more info.
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[QUOTE=Tyrese1;2985118]Thanks for the advice! In that case, I will just download Google translate on my phone and use the voice feature. Can't see myself typing all the time. Hopefully the music at the venue isn't too loud. Forgot to ask one more question: As far as negotiations go, how freaky would say Brazilian girls are compared to their Mexican / Colombian counterparts? Like have you ever paid extra for BBBJ, or was it expected for the most part? One thing I hated about the strip clubs I went to was that most girls did CBJ. I just want to make sure I'm getting my money's worth considering it's been a while since I've paid around $200 for an hour for bedroom fun. If I can get a long passionate BBBJ and then end the session with a money shot all over their face, that would be amazing.[/QUOTE]1) The Google voice translate feature does not work very well in the entertainment bar area during live musical performances so girly auditions are better out in the patio bar. More privacy out in the back of patio bar too if you get my drift. KKK. It is also best to hook up to Scandallo's wifi. The waiters will help you out with this.
2) Brazilian girls give great blowjobs! I have never had anything but BBBJ's, multiple BBBJ's with my Scandallo & Bomboa girls. No need to mention it. BBFS is another matter. I don't bring the subject up during the audition and I am willing to accept a girl's preference. Sometimes BBFS just happens (wonderful), sometimes I offer a little extra $$$ for it in the room after DATY or 69, and most times I suffice with CFS. In my experience BBFS is more available with my repeat girls whom I usually invite over to my hotel (cutting the bordello out of the arrangement) on subsequent nights. But I only invite girls over to my place whom I like (duh) and want to see more of (double duh).
You are going to like Sao Paulo.
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Casarao
Sao Paulo.
Arrived Sao Paulo on a Friday and headed to the hotel' which was in Villa Mariana, a nice area of town. Last time in Sao Paulo, I was looking for a hotel near Avineda Paulista and ended booking a hotel in centro. Not a nice experience as there were a lot of homeless all around and one feared for safety.
My hotel was in Vila Mariana, a nice part of town with good restaurants, shops and some clinicas close by. Nice boutique hotel. Gym, breakfast and girl friendly. Checked in and rested a bit, then decided to hit town. Decided going to Casarao instead of Scandallo an boy was that the right choice. 11 pm I headed there. Last couple of times, I went to Casarao, took a while to get a hang of the place, the bar downstairs and upstairs and how to approach the girls, as some of them looked like they were out on dates and some even came with guys.
This time around, I was all systems go. Got there like 11 pm, paid the entry and there was a very long queue to get in. Once I got in it was the best I made. A few steps in as I walked in, I laid my eyes on a fine dime piece. A pretty Morena, with a girl next door look and an ass to die for. It rarely happens for me to step into a joint and pick the first thing I lay my eyes on, but I knew if I passed on her, I might not see her again. Walked to her and said Hi and asked ' falar ingles' and she replied yes. She spoke a bit of English and I just been doing a 3 weeks crash course in Portuguese. I asked where she was from, she replied somewhere outside Sao Paulo, asked her age, she replied 23. I asked how much and she said 550 reals and I smiled and countered with 450 reals. She looked at me and said ok. We walked out to the hotel next door and waited in line for what must have been at least 30 minutes. While waiting, I asked where she learnt English and she said it was in Holland. Apparently she was there for nearly a year.
We finally made it to room and she went to take a shower. I got in after her and the games started, she soaped my dick up and started stroking, pushed up and started french kissing. Damn she tasted good. Grabbed her ass and it soft. After playing around got the towel and we cleaned up and headed to the bed. Her head game was on point. BBBJ and deep deep throat, this was vacuum blow job with some succulent lips, she also went down on balls and sucked like she wanted to pop them out. Slapped on the condom and I had to stop her from time to time. The girl next door became a fiend in the room. Turned her on her back after sucking those titties, then went down on her honey pot. Worked on her pussy and clit and boy was she wet. Slipped the condom on and went in missionary style and a while I raised her legs and put them on my shoulders, then put a pillow under her ass and the moaning started foje papi. After that she wanted doggy style and set that ass in position, started fucking that ass doggy and the ass was soft, it was like sinking into a water bed, had to slow down and change styles. Cowgirl and then reverse cowgirl. We finally ended up in flat doggystyle and I knew I was done for. Pounding that soft ass while grabbing the titties was too much and I finally gave up the leche. We both cleaned up and she gave me her digits and we went back to Casarao, She said she could come see me at my hotel. Kissed and parted ways. I walked around Casarao and the talent was very good, much better than my previous visits, but I was done for the night and didn't want to change the after taste in my mouth. I chatted with some fine dime pieces and was not feeling anyone, just got some digits. I was extremely satisfied.
Damn it was a good day.
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Hotel
[QUOTE=Tribute15;2986017]Sao Paulo.
Arrived Sao Paulo on a Friday and headed to the hotel' which was in Villa Mariana, a nice area of town. Last time in Sao Paulo, I was looking for a hotel near Avineda Paulista and ended booking a hotel in centro. Not a nice experience as there were a lot of homeless all around and one feared for safety.
My hotel was in Vila Mariana, a nice part of town with good restaurants, shops and some clinicas close by. Nice boutique hotel. Gym, breakfast and girl friendly. Checked in and rested a bit, then decided to hit town. Decided going to Casarao instead of Scandallo an boy was that the right choice. 11 pm I headed there. Last couple of times, I went to Casarao, took a while to get a hang of the place, the bar downstairs and upstairs and how to approach the girls, as some of them looked like they were out on dates and some even came with guys.
This time around, I was all systems go. Got there like 11 pm, paid the entry and there was a very long queue to get in. Once I got in it was the best I made. A few steps in as I walked in, I laid my eyes on a fine dime piece. A pretty Morena, with a girl next door look and an ass to die for. It rarely happens for me to step into a joint and pick the first thing I lay my eyes on, but I knew if I passed on her, I might not see her again. Walked to her and said Hi and asked ' falar ingles' and she replied yes. She spoke a bit of English and I just been doing a 3 weeks crash course in Portuguese. I asked where she was from, she replied somewhere outside Sao Paulo, asked her age, she replied 23. I asked how much and she said 550 reals and I smiled and countered with 450 reals. She looked at me and said ok. We walked out to the hotel next door and waited in line for what must have been at least 30 minutes. While waiting, I asked where she learnt English and she said it was in Holland. Apparently she was there for nearly a year..[/QUOTE]What's the name of the hotel? Why leave out that important detail? We're always on the lookout for a good hotel property!
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Great and informative report.
Casarao in rua augusta Iguess is the adress?
So you found the talent there to be superior to Scandallo.
Also wondering how is the safety situation in el centro lately? You wrote a lot of homeless. Is it ok and safe enough to wander the centro historico during daytime hours.
[QUOTE=Tribute15;2986017]Sao Paulo.
Arrived Sao Paulo on a Friday and headed to the hotel' which was in Villa Mariana, a nice area of town. Last time in Sao Paulo, I was looking for a hotel near Avineda Paulista and ended booking a hotel in centro. Not a nice experience as there were a lot of homeless all around and one feared for safety.
My hotel was in Vila Mariana, a nice part of town with good restaurants, shops and some clinicas close by. Nice boutique hotel. Gym, breakfast and girl friendly. Checked in and rested a bit, then decided to hit town. Decided going to Casarao instead of Scandallo an boy was that the right choice. 11 pm I headed there. Last couple of times, I went to Casarao, took a while to get a hang of the place, the bar downstairs and upstairs and how to approach the girls, as some of them looked like they were out on dates and some even came with guys.
This time around, I was all systems go. Got there like 11 pm, paid the entry and there was a very long queue to get in. Once I got in it was the best I made. A few steps in as I walked in, I laid my eyes on a fine dime piece. A pretty Morena, with a girl next door look and an ass to die for. It rarely happens for me to step into a joint and pick the first thing I lay my eyes on, but I knew if I passed on her, I might not see her again. Walked to her and said Hi and asked ' falar ingles' and she replied yes. She spoke a bit of English and I just been doing a 3 weeks crash course in Portuguese. I asked where she was from, she replied somewhere outside Sao Paulo, asked her age, she replied 23. I asked how much and she said 550 reals and I smiled and countered with 450 reals. She looked at me and said ok. We walked out to the hotel next door and waited in line for what must have been at least 30 minutes. While waiting, I asked where she learnt English and she said it was in Holland. Apparently she was there for nearly a year.
We finally made it to room and she went to take a shower. I got in after her and the games started, she soaped my dick up and started stroking, pushed up and started french kissing. Damn she tasted good. Grabbed her ass and it soft. After playing around got the towel and we cleaned up and headed to the bed. Her head game was on point. BBBJ and deep deep throat, this was vacuum blow job with some succulent lips, she also went down on balls and sucked like she wanted to pop them out. Slapped on the condom and I had to stop her from time to time. The girl next door became a fiend in the room. Turned her on her back after sucking those titties, then went down on her honey pot. Worked on her pussy and clit and boy was she wet. Slipped the condom on and went in missionary style and a while I raised her legs and put them on my shoulders, then put a pillow under her ass and the moaning started foje papi. After that she wanted doggy style and set that ass in position, started fucking that ass doggy and the ass was soft, it was like sinking into a water bed, had to slow down and change styles. Cowgirl and then reverse cowgirl. We finally ended up in flat doggystyle and I knew I was done for. Pounding that soft ass while grabbing the titties was too much and I finally gave up the leche. We both cleaned up and she gave me her digits and we went back to Casarao, She said she could come see me at my hotel. Kissed and parted ways. I walked around Casarao and the talent was very good, much better than my previous visits, but I was done for the night and didn't want to change the after taste in my mouth. I chatted with some fine dime pieces and was not feeling anyone, just got some digits. I was extremely satisfied.
Damn it was a good day.[/QUOTE]
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Scandallo
Scandallo:
After my fun time at Casarao, I decided to go to Scandallo on Saturday. I have mixed feelings about Scandallo regarding the pricing. I find it too high and not value for money and I was proven right. The setting is fantastic and you have tonnes of girls, but 1000- 1500 reals for 1 HR. That's insane. I can a high end escort, who would come over to my hotel for half that price. You are already paying a Scandallo tax to any girl in there, whether pretty or ugly. I even saw a midget there once and she wanted 700 reals, can you believe that. Also too many girls and in a very large area makes it difficult to zone in on the hotties at a particular time versus if there weren't so much and in a smaller area. You might be at Scandallo for hours and might not see 30% of girls available. Some are in the restaurant, some in the bar area, some in the band area, some upstairs, and some occupied there are so many places they could be. It takes luck and a lot of work to get the right one. Each has its merit. But it doesn't favour the punters for me. It's like being at an all you can resort and there for a limited time.
Arrived around 10 Pm and paid the cover charge. Walked in and it crowded. There was a band playing and that area was full. The bar area was also full and people seating in the outside patio. Went to the restaurant and had dinner. On my way in I saw a white girl with a phat ass, that ass was a donkey. I hadn't seen that in a long time. I then saw her on my out of the restaurant and called her over. Started chatting and asked her name and where she was from. Maria from Sao Paulo. Asked where she got that bunda from and she laughed and said guys always asked her that question. Asked her if she was complete and she replied yes. Asked price and she said 1100 reals and I replied that's gringo price. I countered 700 and finally we agreed on 800 reals. Vamos I said, We went upstairs and I paid for 1 h.
We got to the room and off to the shower and she spent about five minutes there and I felt that's too long. Had to go see what was going on. She came to the bed and we got going. DFK, then kisses all over my body, BBBJ, balls sucking andll. She was very sensual. The sex was great. Started at CG, RCG, missionary. After missionary, told her it was time for anal, to poke that cuzinha. She got the gel out and tried to get in doggystyle and it wouldn't go in. Tried it in missionary, flat doggy all the same. It wouldn't just go in, my main of banging that bunda in anal was defeated. It was frustrating. We went back to doggystyle and finished off. We both showered and went back to make payment and I got the shocker of my life. I was charged 485 reals for the room, I asked why there was an extra 185 reals and was told it was for the extra time in the room. I was like it's 1 HR and there was no phone call or notification to that effect. They replied its not there business to notify anyone, that's its up to the client to stick to time. So I was charged for every extra minute. Unfortunately I didn't check the time when I got into room, but I knew that I didn't spend more than an hour. I insisted a manger be called and after some back and forth it was reduced to 450 reals. I paid and left, but it left a very sour taste in my mouth.
I went back downstairs and the party was in full swing. The numbers were up and looking good. There were a lot of mulatta's in the club. I walked around now to enjoy the view, since there was no pressure on me, after just shooting a load. Moved around and chatted, while collecting number. Whenever they asked me to session, I would tell them I just sessioned, but they could come the next day to my hotel. Got numbers from 3 stunners. One was a lawyer from Salvador Bahia who just started practicing. A funny incident happened, while I was chatting to one of the girls and was telling her I just shoot a load and needed to rest, the girl I just sessioned with passed by and I grabbed her and she smiled and told the other girl we just sessioned and she better makes sure she goes with me.
My plan was to get some numbers for take out, as I felt the rates at Scandallo was crazy. The following day I stated chatting the chicas and I started getting some crazy rates. 1500-2000 reals. I was like hell no. 2 of the chicas came down to 1200 reals, but wasn't good enough. One of the girls called Thianna later buzzed me around 5 pm saying she could come for 800 reals, I smiled and didn't reply. At 6:30 pm I countered with 500 reals, she asked I add something and we agreed for 600 reals. She came 1 hour and half later and boy was it a wild session. She was a firecracker and very crazy. I had to end the session after 1 HR 30 minutes, because I had a flight to catch. I finally got my score and model for Scandallo. Get numbers and meet them outside the club.
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Cozzy paraiso suites.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2986051]What's the name of the hotel? Why leave out that important detail? We're always on the lookout for a good hotel property![/QUOTE]
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The baddest puta palace on the planet!
Here's a Scandallo spot report. I went last night, and all I could think is what a great time to be alive! All these attractive women up in here, and I could be fucking pretty much any of them! I was approached by many, including the first Japanese-Brazilian girl I have ever met (I know some of you guys are into that type). I ended up having two anal sex sessions, one with a tall and blonde branca and one with a tanned and dark-haired morena. But more on that in my full report to come later. It seems that for the girls their pricing sweet spot is 1,500 reals, at least with a gringo. They may start high, at 2,000, but if they like you then you can bargain them down, even below 1,500. But I talked to one really hot branca per my tastes who was out of her mind! Said she wanted 3,000 for an hour, and in that time she would suck me off no condom but I couldn't eat her out and no anal sex. WTF? I really liked her look but no fucking way was that happening. We parted ways cordially but saw each other again and gave big smiles. She said she would drop her price to 2,000 reals and I could eat her out, but that would be a CBJ. Well, like I've said before, I've never had a covered BJ in Brazil and don't plan on having one ever! Told her still no deal, and she countered OK with a BBBJ 2,500 reals. Nope! We parted ways for the final time that night. Saw her walking around throughout the night without any business LOL! I did see where she got invited to join one of the big parties in one of the side booths. Don't know if anybody took her up on her high pricing or not. I think girls like that who know they're hot and won't come down on the price like hanging out in a place like a Scandallo, but they really don't need the money. Or, maybe her strategy is to find at least just one horny, desperate sucker to pay her high price during the night and she's done. I told a couple of other girls about the interaction and they agreed yes don't pay that high price since there are too many other girls there who are good looking and nice who will be far more reasonable. Without a doubt!
And now a few closing thoughts. The traffic in Sao Paulo scares the absolute bejesus out of me! I mean even more than in Rio. You have these motorcyclists that like to ride in traffic in between the lanes, and it's really dangerous. I saw some who had to be going at least 80 miles an hour! Just one wrong move and they are splat dead on the highway! And my Uber driver from the airport was just a maniac, but he knew what he was doing. Got me to the hotel safe and sound. On the way back from Scandallo last night a police car nearly hit the taxi I was in! I mean the cop car was clearly at fault and the taxista had to hard swerve out of the way to avoid getting hit! Speaking of taxistas, on the way to the club I had an English-speaking driver who offered to take me to the many different night clubs around town. I don't need an English-speaking taxi driver, but the guy was cool, and I'm going to take him up on his offer. He gave me his WhatsApp so that I can contact him that way to arrange for a ride. Whenever I go on any mongering trip, whether it's Brazil or wherever, I always seem to have funny or interesting encounters with the girls, and already this trip has proven to be no exception. Two garotas asked me if I liked blondes. I said yes because they have "cuzinhas rozadas" (pink assholes) and they about fell off their bar stools laughing LOLOLOL! Then one of them flashed her titties to say blondes have pink nipples too LMAO! Another time I was leaning over the bar to order a drink, and a girl sitting there said, "Oh you smell so good! You smell so, so good! I just told my girlfriend sitting here how good you smell"! I told her thanks and that I make an extra effort to smell great because I know how much the girls appreciate that. She said yes because some men smell bad and stink LOL! Good hygiene pays off with the ladies! So, what's my secret to smelling great? Well, the key is that when I shower soap and water isn't enough. I use a quality body wash as well that keeps working throughout the night. And on top of that I use a body lotion after I'm out of the shower. Sorry TinTin our secret to smelling good is out hahaha! Damn I love Brazil! As long as I am alive and able to travel, I hope never again to be away from her for so long.
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By the way
This was my first time going to Scandallo other than on a Friday or Saturday night, and I didn't notice any difference in terms of the number of girls there. It was on a Thursday night, and in fact I have been there on a Friday or Saturday when there were even more people there than last Thursday. So, I just don't get guys who keep telling newbies to avoid Scandallo on the weekends due to lower attendance. I have been on the weekends many, many times and I just have not seen that. Again, I have seen more people there on a Friday or Saturday night than what I saw last night on a Thursday. If you go on a weekend it's going to be fine! Believe me. Oh, and Tribute15 is right about it being difficult to see all the girls. You really have to work at it. I call it "mongering by walking around". That's occasionally changing my station and moving all about the club to see what booty is on duty. You need to do that to see as many of the tutes as possible.
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Scandallo VIP Bottle Service cost?
I have been looking all over this forum and still can't find how much bottle service costs at Scandallo. I have gone through the virtual tour on their website and seen all the different rooms they have. However, I couldn't find the drinks / bottles menu on there. I am guessing the price for a table + bottles depends on the location in the club. Does anyone know how much VIP bottle service costs in general? Do I have to call / text to reserve a table in advance or just show up and ask one of the waiters? I remember going to Hong Kong in Tijuana one time and the price for a table + bottle was like $500. Also, I read somewhere that if you don't finish the bottle, the club can save it for your next visit up to 6 months. That's actually pretty cool.
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[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2982949]High end CLnicas.
Oro, the palms, lotus, Baronesa, Bali spa, and Sharon. I'm sure there are others. Presentation by iPad, no in person. You can ask on WhatsApp for a website link of the girls photos. Only oro and the palms didn't give me. Cost are similar R700-800. Most places, you pay the girl her fee around R400 after the session and the room fee to the CLnica when you exit. Some places have fancier, bigger rooms for more money.[/QUOTE]Is R700-800 price per hour or per 30 minutes?
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[QUOTE=Tyrese1;2986284]I have been looking all over this forum and still can't find how much bottle service costs at Scandallo. I have gone through the virtual tour on their website and seen all the different rooms they have. However, I couldn't find the drinks / bottles menu on there. I am guessing the price for a table + bottles depends on the location in the club. Does anyone know how much VIP bottle service costs in general? Do I have to call / text to reserve a table in advance or just show up and ask one of the waiters? I remember going to Hong Kong in Tijuana one time and the price for a table + bottle was like $500. Also, I read somewhere that if you don't finish the bottle, the club can save it for your next visit up to 6 months. That's actually pretty cool.[/QUOTE]I don't know if you can call it bottle service like the USA. You just pay for a bottle and they bring it to your table. You have to pay for all the mixers and even water. The only thing they give is the glass with ice and garnishes. I always buy a bottle of Tanqueray Sevilla with a few tonics and a few Red Bull tropical for the girls. The bottle costs R750 and I think the mixers cost R20-25. I think that works out best because 99% of the girls will drink gin tropical and I will have gin and tonic. They will hold it for 6 months if you don't finish it. Just take a picture of the back side of the bottle in case you have some left so they can locate it easier the next time you come back. If you buy a bottle, the waiters will set up a table outside and even reserve a sofa on the inside as long as they aren't reserved.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2986219]Here's a Scandallo spot report. I went last night, and all I could think is what a great time to be alive! All these attractive women up in here, and I could be fucking pretty much any of them! I was approached by many, including the first Japanese-Brazilian girl I have ever met (I know some of you guys are into that type). I ended up having two anal sex sessions, one with a tall and blonde branca and one with a tanned and dark-haired morena. But more on that in my full report to come later. It seems that for the girls their pricing sweet spot is 1,500 reals, at least with a gringo. They may start high, at 2,000, but if they like you then you can bargain them down, even below 1,500. But I talked to one really hot branca per my tastes who was out of her mind! Said she wanted 3,000 for an hour, and in that time she would suck me off no condom but I couldn't eat her out and no anal sex. WTF? I really liked her look but no fucking way was that happening. We parted ways cordially but saw each other again and gave big smiles. She said she would drop her price to 2,000 reals and I could eat her out, but that would be a CBJ. Well, like I've said before, I've never had a covered BJ in Brazil and don't plan on having one ever! Told her still no deal, and she countered OK with a BBBJ 2,500 reals. Nope! We parted ways for the final time that night. Saw her walking around throughout the night without any business LOL! I did see where she got invited to join one of the big parties in one of the side booths. Don't know if anybody took her up on her high pricing or not. I think girls like that who know they're hot and won't come down on the price like hanging out in a place like a Scandallo, but they really don't need the money. Or, maybe her strategy is to find at least just one horny, desperate sucker to pay her high price during the night and she's done. I told a couple of other girls about the interaction and they agreed yes don't pay that high price since there are too many other girls there who are good looking and nice who will be far more reasonable. Without a doubt!
.[/QUOTE]The best in the world!
A tip — you can also book taxis thru the uber app and they are allowed to use the bus lanes so you can get to your destination quicker especially during rush hour or trying to get to Scandello before 7 😜.
Looking forward to your reports and can't wait for my trip in April.
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[QUOTE=Ak233;2986301]Is R700-800 price per hour or per 30 minutes?[/QUOTE]I think it is for an hour. I don't think high-end clinicas have half hour option, but I could be wrong.
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[QUOTE=Ak233;2986301]Is R700-800 price per hour or per 30 minutes?[/QUOTE]It's for one hour. I don't think there is a 30 min option for the high ends. It's also just 1 shot usually. For the regular.
Clinicas there a 30 minutes (1 shot) and 1 hour (2 shots) options.
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[QUOTE=Tyrese1;2986284]I remember going to Hong Kong in Tijuana one time and the price for a table + bottle was like $500. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2986336]I think the mixers cost R20-25. [/QUOTE]Secret is out! This is how Anaggie saves huge amounts of dough by drinking cheap Tonic water which actually cost R30 instead of Red Bulls that cost R60 😉 On average a bottle at Scandallo costs 20-30+ times over the retail price.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2986247]This was my first time going to Scandallo other than on a Friday or Saturday night, and I didn't notice any difference in terms of the number of girls there. It was on a Thursday night, and in fact I have been there on a Friday or Saturday when there were even more people there than last Thursday. So, I just don't get guys who keep telling newbies to avoid Scandallo on the weekends due to lower attendance. I have been on the weekends many, many times and I just have not seen that. Again, I have seen more people there on a Friday or Saturday night than what I saw last night on a Thursday. If you go on a weekend it's going to be fine! Believe me. Oh, and Tribute15 is right about it being difficult to see all the girls. You really have to work at it. I call it "mongering by walking around". That's occasionally changing my station and moving all about the club to see what booty is on duty. You need to do that to see as many of the tutes as possible.[/QUOTE]How about you visit the club during Friday and Saturday now and let us now if you still see no difference. I am guessing you are comparing what you saw pre-pandemic to current situation. The weekend numbers are much more noticeable pre and post pandemic for someone who visited only once pre-pandemic. Saturday's numbers now are noticeably weaker than pre-pandemic.
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Gauguin Club Spot Report
A little while ago a couple of the guys here mentioned this club as a luxe alternative to Scandallo. I had not heard of it before. I visited last night and agree it is luxe, but much smaller than Scandallo (what place isn't) with far fewer girls available. The good news is that it's a lot less expensive too (details to come in full report)! There's an upstairs that opens early, and a downstairs that opens at 9 pm, both with a stage and sometimes a band. There is also a decent restaurant menu with various dishes and snacks. I like to arrive early to check a brand new place to me out before it really gets hopping. It's more quiet and not as crowded and you can begin to sense the vibe of the place. There were a couple of cute girls, and I was approached by two (a negra and a morena), but I ended up going with "Luna", a 25 year-old, blonde branca who said she was born in Parana state but now lives in Sao Paulo where other family members also live. Luna said her relatives immigrated to Brazil from Italy two generations ago, and that she was going to school to be a flight attendant. The talent pool was small, and I didn't see too many others I liked, so around 8:45 pm I chose Luna. Or rather, she chose me. And it turned out to be a good session too. Got to mess around with her "gaucha" butt hole in the room hahaha (more to come later)! So is this place another Scandallo? Hell no, but no place in the world is, so it would not be fair to expect Gauguin to be that. But if you're looking for a lower cost alternative to Scandallo that isn't all the way across town like Connection Nightclub is, and with a more mellow vibe, then Gauguin is worth checking out to see if it's your thing. And if not, you can always head out to another club later. Until the next time my mongering brethren keep on fucking!
[URL]https://youtu.be/fbSeiWMJrSo?si=vcRkwutNI6e-XaR2[/URL]
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Casarao Spot Report
Went to Casarao last night, and after a slow start at Cafe Photo, man am I glad I did! The place was lit on a Saturday night! I went to the room with a young, wild, and crazy blonde branca going by the name of "Iris" originally from Parana state (notice a pattern LOL). I could tell by the size of her smallish ass that she probably didn't do anal, and I was right. But I liked her and wanted to fuck her anyway. Using my descriptive ass matrix, I would say that she had a "standard issue" white girl ass. And yet, just as with Luna last night, Iris' butt hole played front and center during the action in the room last night LOL (full details later). Right now I'm at 50% of my sessions including full on anal sex. This is far below my well-established Brazilian LAA (Lifetime Anal Average) of 70% of my hoors butt fucked. I'm a little bit concerned as I have a reputation to uphold as one of ISG's greatest cornholers of all time hahaha! Well, in the end I know I shouldn't worry. I have lots of time left in Brazil with lots and lots of Brasiliera butt holes to see LMAO! Until the next time my friends!
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[QUOTE=Lalabo;2986379]Secret is out! This is how Anaggie saves huge amounts of dough by drinking cheap Tonic water which actually cost R30 instead of Red Bulls that cost R60 😉 On average a bottle at Scandallo costs 20-30+ times over the retail price.[/QUOTE]All those savings in mixers go towards building my harem 😜.
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Connection Nightclub Spot Report
Last night I had what was probably my worst overall session of sex in Brazil ever! And it definitely was the worst anal sex in Brazil ever! Well, I suppose it was bound to happen one day. It's just that you know this is Brazil where that's not supposed to happen! I went with a tall German-Brazilian looking woman aged 30 who goes by the name of "Natalia". The issue is that she had too many mood killing rules, or turned her body in this way and that to prohibit full penetration and enjoyment. How about like trying to hold the condom at the base no matter what? We all hate it when women do that right? And that's just some of it (full details in my full report). I should have known right from the beginning in the room that she was going to be a pain in the ass when it wasn't enough that I showered first at the hotel, then again right there in the room. She asked me to get back into the shower so that [B]she[/B] could wash my dick with [B]her[/B] special soap that only she trusted. And it was all mostly downhill from there for me. Don't do this. Fuck me only this way. And her doing stuff I didn't like. Worst session in Brazil ever! The club itself was fine, with well-appointed public and private spaces. The main issues I see with it are that it's a long way to get to, I have never seen a lot of people there (they blamed Carnaval this time), and Natalia with all of her fucking prohibitive rules! She said she was leaving in just a few days to work in Milan, Italy. [B]Good riddance[/B] because we don't need her bullshit here in Brazil! I salvaged my night by heading over to Casarao Augusta where I had a good session with a blonde Big Booty Barbie from Belo Horizonte named "Brenda" who quickly restored my faith in the sexual prowess of the Brasiliera again (more to come about her too).
[URL]http://www.connectionvip.com.br/[/URL]
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Bahamas Hotel Club Spot Report
Sobremesa (dessert)? "I didn't order any sobremesas"! That's what I said at the front desk while settling up my bill after another night of debauchery in Sao Paulo, Brazil. Turns out that "sobremesa" was being used to refer to the two condoms that were provided, so the joke was on me LOLOLOL! Yeah, the two women at the desk laughed at my ass. Hey, I'm just a gringo. What do I know? I had not seen the word used that way before. Speaking of condoms, so far I have found that none of the girls have been willing to use my own stash of Skyn brand condoms that I prefer. Too many assholes doing things like poking holes in condoms and shit like that have ruined it for the rest of us more honorable mongers. In any event, it was a good night that more than made up for Natalia's bullshit at Connection Night Club last night. Tonight at Bahamas Hotel Club I butt fucked a cute, fair-skinned, blue-eyed, blonde branca from Sao Paulo who goes by "Jessica". She's a 24 year-old elementary school teacher who is still going to school herself (play-by-play action later). And she put out in the room the way a Brasiliera is supposed to put out! Oh man, I get to fuck so, so many pretty, blue-eyed, blonde, white girls in their tight, forbidden butt holes every single time I come to Brazil! Well, I guess they aren't that forbidden since I've sampled so many of them LOL! It's just [B]insane[/B] all of this anal cornholing of all these pretty white girls giving up their A-holes to a depraved, perverted gringo monger such as myself! The prettier they are, the more I lust to fuck them in the butt! Like I've said before, [B]if you like to fuck really attractive white girls in the ass[/B] then the country of Brazil is absolute Heaven on this earth! My God! The club itself was nicer than I remembered with talent that overall was a little better than last time. The room, although small, was clean and well-appointed. Based on tonight, I would return to the Bahamas Hotel Club again, especially if staying in Moema making it really easy to get to. Planning to have a sobremesa with dinner tomorrow night. Doing that at one of Sao Paulo's puta palaces gives that a whole new meaning LMAO! Onward and upward! Keep on (butt) fucking (whatever type you like)!
[URL]https://bahamashotelclub.com.br/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2986493]Gauguin is worth checking out[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report and I wait for your full report for pricing details. I plan to visit the club during my next trip to SP.
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"Connection Nightclub Spot Report".
[QUOTE=TheCane;2987402] Last night I had what was probably my worst overall session of sex in Brazil ever! And it definitely was the worst anal sex in Brazil ever!
I salvaged my night by heading over to Casarao Augusta where I had a good session with a blonde Big Booty Barbie from Belo Horizonte named "Brenda" who quickly restored my faith in the sexual prowess of the Brasiliera again (more to come about her too). [/QUOTE]What a drag. It sounds more like a bad night at a 2nd rate BKK soapy where the girl wipes her mouth with a tissue every time she sucks your dick for 10 seconds. KKK /555. But you prevailed by heading over to Casarao! That is the way it is done.
I have never made the trek over to Connection. Still meaning to, but what about the quality and quantity of Connection girls? How does it stack up to say Cafe Photo or even your recently reviewed Gauguin?
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Attendance
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2987522]"Connection Nightclub Spot Report".
What a drag. It sounds more like a bad night at a 2nd rate BKK soapy where the girl wipes her mouth with a tissue every time she sucks your dick for 10 seconds. KKK /555. But you prevailed by heading over to Casarao! That is the way it is done.
I have never made the trek over to Connection. Still meaning to, but what about the quality and quantity of Connection girls? How does it stack up to say Cafe Photo or even your recently reviewed Gauguin?[/QUOTE]Except for Scandallo and Casarao Augusta attendance is way down at all the clubs in terms of both girls and customers. In fact, Bomboa was closed on the night I went (will try again). Carnaval has something to do with it, and I won't come to Brazil again during Carnaval, but some of these clubs I have never seen crowded.
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Cafe slow motion
I must agree with you all that since pandemics, Cafe Photo is only the shadow of what it used to be.
However, arriving early, destiny has reserved true gems for me. The super tall brunette volleyball player style (21) and a peach bubble butt last year (27). Not cheap at all, butt two experiences to remember.
If that fails, there is always a short taxi to Casarao or a longer trip to Scandallo.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2987522]"Connection Nightclub Spot Report".
I have never made the trek over to Connection. Still meaning to, but what about the quality and quantity of Connection girls? How does it stack up to say Cafe Photo or even your recently reviewed Gauguin?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2987448]Sobremesa (dessert)? "I didn't order any sobremesas"! That's what I said at the front desk while settling up my bill after another night of debauchery in Sao Paulo, Brazil. Turns out that "sobremesa" was being used to refer to the two condoms that were provided, so the joke was on me LOLOLOL! Yeah, the two women at the desk laughed at my ass. Hey, I'm just a gringo. What do I know? I had not seen the word used that way before. Speaking of condoms, so far I have found that none of the girls have been willing to use my own stash of Skyn brand condoms that I prefer. Too many assholes doing things like poking holes in condoms and shit like that have ruined it for the rest of us more honorable mongers. In any event, it was a good night that more than made up for Natalia's bullshit at Connection Night Club last night. Tonight at Bahamas Hotel Club I butt fucked a cute, fair-skinned, blue-eyed, blonde branca from Sao Paulo who goes by "Jessica". She's a 24 year-old elementary school teacher who is still going to school herself (play-by-play action later). And she put out in the room the way a Brasiliera is supposed to put out! Oh man, I get to fuck so, so many pretty, blue-eyed, blonde, white girls in their tight, forbidden butt holes every single time I come to Brazil! Well, I guess they aren't that forbidden since I've sampled so many of them LOL! It's just [B]insane[/B] all of this anal cornholing of all these pretty white girls giving up their A-holes to a depraved, perverted gringo monger such as myself!..[/QUOTE]What's the overall cost in Bahamas? Is it similar to Casarao or Scandallo?
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Cost
[QUOTE=KCK12;2987789]What's the overall cost in Bahamas? Is it similar to Casarao or Scandallo?[/QUOTE]I plan to discuss costs in more detail when I do my full reports. Suffice it to say that they have been all over the board. At Bahamas Hotel Club it was a R200 consumo fee to enter, and that was it, putting Bahamas between Scandallo (high) and Casarao (low). And of course, if you choose a girl you negotiate directly with her for the price of the session. Plus there's the room fee. More on all this later.
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Bahamas, is now part of the recent sweet & salty reporting on SP...
[QUOTE=The Cane;2987448]Sobremesa (dessert)? "I didn't order any sobremesas"! That's what I said at the front desk while settling up my bill after another night of debauchery in Sao Paulo, Brazil. Turns out that "sobremesa" was being used to refer to the two condoms that were provided, so the joke was on me LOLOLOL! Yeah, the two women at the desk laughed at my ass. Hey, I'm just a gringo. What do I know? I had not seen the word used that way before. Speaking of condoms, ...
[URL]https://bahamashotelclub.com.br/[/URL][/QUOTE]
I'm enjoying the series of sweet & salty reporting, on the SP scene...it's a good collection for a ROD!
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2008-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction&p=2987986&viewfull=1#post2987986[/url]
Thanks! ...Keep 'em coming!
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[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2982949]High end CLnicas.
Oro, the palms, lotus, Baronesa, Bali spa, and Sharon. I'm sure there are others. Presentation by iPad, no in person. You can ask on WhatsApp for a website link of the girls photos. Only oro and the palms didn't give me. Cost are similar R700-800. Most places, you pay the girl her fee around R400 after the session and the room fee to the CLnica when you exit. Some places have fancier, bigger rooms for more money.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I contacted one of them and told me 380 R for room and 400 R for the girl / massage. My question is if that includes sex with the girl or it's just the massage. Do you have to negotiate with each girl an additional fee for playing time? Thanks in advance!
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SPONTANEOUSLY THINKING TO TRAVEL TO Brazil 3/20
If book this flight I will be traveling solo. Which I have done to 3 continents. Few questions I would like to ask. I am pretty much $100 an less person. So where in Sao Paulo I would find nice girls for this price. Or a similar area to Colombia el Centro or parque lleras. I can see myself going to scandallo to people watch but not to pay $250 for a girl. How's safety, uber, any beaches. Other than that I should be fine. Trying to travel before visa begins.
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Tons of Options
[QUOTE=Blakman;2988321]If book this flight I will be traveling solo. Which I have done to 3 continents. Few questions I would like to ask. I am pretty much $100 an less person. So where in Sao Paulo I would find nice girls for this price. Or a similar area to Colombia el Centro or parque lleras. I can see myself going to scandallo to people watch but not to pay $250 for a girl. How's safety, uber, any beaches. Other than that I should be fine. Trying to travel before visa begins.[/QUOTE]Daytime pretty much all the Clinicas are going to be sub $100 usd. Also 57 Friends which is a personal fave. Chill vibe. Pool table. Open day and night. Girls are $50. And quite hot. If you want the nightclub / bar feel then Casarao. Dont go before 11 tho. Most girls show up at midnight or later. Girls should all be $100 or less. You won't lack for choice.
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[QUOTE=Dlatin77;2988067]Thanks for the info. I contacted one of them and told me 380 R for room and 400 R for the girl / massage. My question is if that includes sex with the girl or it's just the massage. Do you have to negotiate with each girl an additional fee for playing time? Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Includes sex. No negotiation needed. These clinicas are up front with the prices, just ask them.
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Appreciate your response
Is there a prime location for air bnb closed to or centrally located to everything?
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2988379]Daytime pretty much all the Clinicas are going to be sub $100 usd. Also 57 Friends which is a personal fave. Chill vibe. Pool table. Open day and night. Girls are $50. And quite hot. If you want the nightclub / bar feel then Casarao. Dont go before 11 tho. Most girls show up at midnight or later. Girls should all be $100 or less. You won't lack for choice.[/QUOTE].
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Moema for Clinicas
[QUOTE=Blakman;2988490]Is there a prime location for air bnb closed to or centrally located to everything?
.[/QUOTE]I’d stay in Moema if you are going to do the clinicas and 57. They are all there. Just search 57 house friends club and pick something nearby. And Abbobora which is one of the better mid priced clinicas is just a 2 minute walk from 57 Friends. I can recommend the Estanplaza Ibirapuera if you go w a hotel as being very walkable. You will be 20 minutes from casarao but not big deal as traffic at 11 pm is not so bad.
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Any other means to bypass traffic
And other means to bypass traffic to get to clinicians besides car?
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2988518]Id stay in Moema if you are going to do the clinicas and 57. They are all there. Just search 57 house friends club and pick something nearby. And Abbobora which is one of the better mid priced clinicas is just a 2 minute walk from 57 Friends. I can recommend the Estanplaza Ibirapuera if you go w a hotel as being very walkable. You will be 20 minutes from casarao but not big deal as traffic at 11 pm is not so bad.[/QUOTE].
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Prime charging 240 for 30 min
I went to prime today and all of the rooms were taken but they said there was a room available for 30 min. Lucy and I went into the room. Lucy was great. Very young, tiny, very cute girl. Held her from behind and she leaned back into me and we started DFK and she turned around and put her leg around me as we went at it for a bit. Full 30 minutes was great. But then they hit me up are $240 for 30 minutes. I was flabbergasted and I kept saying only 30 minutes? And the lady at the desk said yes, 240 for 30 minutes. I ended up paying it but annoyed that she charged me for one hour when it was their fault they didn't have the room.
Anyone else have this happen to them?
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Moema
[QUOTE=Blakman;2988490]Is there a prime location for air bnb closed to or centrally located to everything?
.[/QUOTE]Agree about moema. It is walking distance of 10 clincas plus new one popping up all the time. Uber ride to casarão, scandallo and love motels to meet garotas is easy peasy. During the fcvking rain with traffic going no where moema array of clinicas is great alternative to wait out the time.
Highly recommend to read about moema in the são paulo hotel thread -- why?? Its in the direct path of CGH airport. You can stand in front of Prime or Miruna clinic, look up, grab your phone to take a foto of the airplane livery QR code painted on the bottoom. It is best to find a place in moema that you can sleep peacefully at 0600 am. Otherwise that friggin jet is prompt to take off at a screaming rate exactly 0600 and 1 sec.
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Prime charged me full hour rate for 30 min
Has anyone else experienced this? All rooms at Prime were taken and my girl (Lucy who is great BTW) was told there was a room free for 30 minutes. So we took it. At the end the desk charged me 240 and I said only 30 minutes and she said yeah, that is 240. I argued for a bit but wasn't worth it and ended up paying the 240 and then left, but that is some bullshit.
Just wondering if anyone else has experienced that.
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12 hours in Sao Paolo. Arriving 9 am on Sunday in May
Is there a good central location I can uber from airport that has a lingam (happy ending) massage and maybe a termas that is nearby? I read online that some might be open unlike Rio. I will just have my back pack. Any other advice would be great!
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Experience with IBIS SP Ibirapuera hotel?
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2988518]Id stay in Moema if you are going to do the clinicas and 57. They are all there. Just search 57 house friends club and pick something nearby. And Abbobora which is one of the better mid priced clinicas is just a 2 minute walk from 57 Friends. I can recommend the Estanplaza Ibirapuera if you go w a hotel as being very walkable. You will be 20 minutes from casarao but not big deal as traffic at 11 pm is not so bad.[/QUOTE]Hello, anyone experience with this hotel if it is ok to bring girls for an hour or overnight for massage or other fun activities?
Thanks!
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Digits?
[QUOTE=Tribute15;2986017]Sao Paulo.
Arrived Sao Paulo on a Friday and headed to the hotel' which was in Villa Mariana, a nice area of town. Last time in Sao Paulo, I was looking for a hotel near Avineda Paulista and ended booking a hotel in centro. Not a nice experience as there were a lot of homeless all around and one feared for safety.
My hotel was in Vila Mariana, a nice part of town with good restaurants, shops and some clinicas close by. Nice boutique hotel. Gym, breakfast and girl friendly. Checked in and rested a bit, then decided to hit town. Decided going to Casarao instead of Scandallo an boy was that the right choice. 11 pm I headed there. Last couple of times, I went to Casarao, took a while to get a hang of the place, the bar downstairs and upstairs and how to approach the girls, as some of them looked like they were out on dates and some even came with guys.
This time around, I was all systems go. Got there like 11 pm, paid the entry and there was a very long queue to get in. Once I got in it was the best I made. A few steps in as I walked in, I laid my eyes on a fine dime piece. A pretty Morena, with a girl next door look and an ass to die for. It rarely happens for me to step into a joint and pick the first thing I lay my eyes on, but I knew if I passed on her, I might not see her again. Walked to her and said Hi and asked ' falar ingles' and she replied yes. She spoke a bit of English and I just been doing a 3 weeks crash course in Portuguese. I asked where she was from, she replied somewhere outside Sao Paulo, asked her age, she replied 23. I asked how much and she said 550 reals and I smiled and countered with 450 reals..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info Tribute, care to share the digits of your Morena friend please?
Also, how much was the entrance? What about the fee for the hotel next door? So overall total for the girl, 450 plus?
Thanks.
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Today is the day to buy my ticket?
I came home from work determine to purchase the ticket. But decided few more questions. I don't hear much talk of tinder successes or even usage. Is that a no no. How about like a street full of girls out doors or too dangerous. No place like that? Or talking to chick's opting to bring them to your air bnb. Are the girls civil and far different than sosua girls. Reminder I am $100 or less man. Charming but no taking out for dinner or buying drinks, just straight fucking. I am in very good shape for my age. If you guys can answer these questions. I know a few of them have been answered but just want to read one more response to motivate me to buy this ticket today.
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[QUOTE=LvHobby;2988603]Has anyone else experienced this? All rooms at Prime were taken and my girl (Lucy who is great BTW) was told there was a room free for 30 minutes. So we took it. At the end the desk charged me 240 and I said only 30 minutes and she said yeah, that is 240. I argued for a bit but wasn't worth it and ended up paying the 240 and then left, but that is some bullshit.
Just wondering if anyone else has experienced that.[/QUOTE]R240 is for 30 minutes and are 330 is for an hour. Those were the prices I paid during my last trip in January.
You may get discount if you post reviews on gp-guia but I always paid full price.
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[QUOTE=JasMaster;2988639]Is there a good central location I can uber from airport that has a lingam (happy ending) massage and maybe a termas that is nearby? I read online that some might be open unlike Rio. I will just have my back pack. Any other advice would be great![/QUOTE]AFAIK there are no termas in SP. Termas are in Rio and the equivalent places in SP are Boetes. To my knowledge the terma that is open on Sundays is Casaro which is not an option for you because it opens at 10:30 pm.
I suggest taking a Uber to Moema and visit clinicas Prime & Maruna that are open by 11 am or noon on Sundays. I think Clinicas Tangara, which is not that far from Moema, is also open.
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Answers and Just Do It
[QUOTE=Blakman;2988707]I came home from work determine to purchase the ticket. But decided few more questions. I don't hear much talk of tinder successes or even usage. Is that a no no. How about like a street full of girls out doors or too dangerous. No place like that? Or talking to chick's opting to bring them to your air bnb. Are the girls civil and far different than sosua girls. Reminder I am $100 or less man. Charming but no taking out for dinner or buying drinks, just straight fucking. I am in very good shape for my age. If you guys can answer these questions. I know a few of them have been answered but just want to read one more response to motivate me to buy this ticket today.[/QUOTE]Do not fuck with Tinder or seeking or anything else in SP. Prostitution is legal and easy and there is no point wasting time with online or street girls (some online can be good but mostly bait and switch at your price point). Any girl doing street is not going to hold a candle to what you can get in a CLínica. And yes nighttime can be dangerous on the street.
As far as bringing to your airbnb that is a bit of a crap shoot. Sure you can get digits from a CLínica girl and bring her over. But some airbnb don't allow or discourage this. I wouldn't count on it. And seriously why hassle with it when you can fuck onsite for $40 (see recent complaint about being charged "so much" LOL).
Finally SP is best girls destination on the planet. Just do it.
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Yes. But Sex
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2988785]AFAIK there are no termas in SP. Termas are in Rio and the equivalent places in SP are Boetes. To my knowledge the terma that is open on Sundays is Casaro which is not an option for you because it opens at 10:30 pm.
I suggest taking a Uber to Moema and visit clinicas Prime & Maruna that are open by 11 am or noon on Sundays. I think Clinicas Tangara, which is not that far from Moema, is also open.[/QUOTE]Good advice from Lalabo. And yes Tangara opens 12 on Sunday as I recall. But don't count on lingam massage. The clinicas have little pretense of massage. You go there to get a BJ and fuck. So make that your plan and you won't be disappointed.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2987402]I went with a tall German-Brazilian looking woman aged 30 who goes by the name of "Natalia". The issue is that she had too many mood killing rules, or turned her body in this way and that to prohibit full penetration and enjoyment. How about like trying to hold the condom at the base no matter what? We all hate it when women do that right? And that's just some of it (full details in my full report). I should have known right from the beginning in the room that she was going to be a pain in the ass when it wasn't enough that I showered first at the hotel, then again right there in the room. She asked me to get back into the shower so that [B]she[/B] could wash my dick with [B]her[/B] special soap that only she trusted. And it was all mostly downhill from there for me. [/QUOTE]This club was good during pandemic because many girls from Scandallo used to visit it after Scandallo closed early at 9 pm. It went downhill after pandemic, and I didn't see the point of going all the way over there to visit this club instead of other popular clubs. I am encouraged to hear you liked the club on a Monday which tends to be the slowest day of the week.
This story reminds me of an interaction I had with a girl at Scandallo during one of my trips last year. The girl said she would do BBBJ if I am clean otherwise a CBJ. I usually consider that as a first warning sign with most girls and more rules / restrictions would follow. She then insisted on shower together and she would wash me. I had girls offering to shower together but never had a girl insist on washing me but who knows, I thought maybe that's her kink. When asked why, she said that some guys take 30 second showers and they usually don't clean themselves well. She must have exaggerated 30 seconds thing, but I get her point. I told her that I am not that desperate, and if cleanliness is her concern, then she could clean me for the whole hour if she desires. I am glad she told me about it outside the room instead of inside. Obviously, I didn't go with her.
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Need advices please
I have been Sao Paulo 3 days now, I have not seen any working girls, please advise me where I should go to meet them? I know this maybe a stupid question, but I need advice, thanks gents. I currently live in a house close to Av. Paulista. I will move to somewhere in Vila Mariana soon.
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[QUOTE=BlueMntn;2988961]I have been Sao Paulo 3 days now, I have not seen any working girls, please advise me where I should go to meet them? I know this maybe a stupid question, but I need advice, thanks gents. I currently live in a house close to Av. Paulista. I will move to somewhere in Vila Mariana soon.[/QUOTE]It would be helpful if you let us know the list of places you have been looking.
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Not expensive
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2989015]It would be helpful if you let us know the list of places you have been looking.[/QUOTE]Below 100 USD full service by girl would be great, otherwise it would not be appropriate for me. Such as private casa, massage centre, or even street girls. Appreciate for your help.
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Scandello. Dress code?
Is there a dress code here? I'm thinking more about footwear? Travelling light on a trip around South America so I'm planning on taking one pair of comfortable shoes. So are trainers (aka sneakers in the uncivilised world!) ok?
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Flight Booked. 2 weeks. What Now?
Airport means to Airbnb? Subway and uber? Transportation cost to casaro and scandallo? Most likely I will get an Airbnb that allows guests. I have seen a few. But if I can fvck at a clinicas, boates for flat $40 us dollars or in that range works. How much us dollars will cost me just to visit scandallo and chica watch. Top 5 spots for el cheapo but smooth talker like myself. Nightclubs with working chicas? Dress code casual sneakers allowed or shoes mandatory few places.
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BE there two weeks. 1st time.
Hope I don't have this problem
[QUOTE=BlueMntn;2988961]I have been Sao Paulo 3 days now, I have not seen any working girls, please advise me where I should go to meet them? I know this maybe a stupid question, but I need advice, thanks gents. I currently live in a house close to Av. Paulista. I will move to somewhere in Vila Mariana soon.[/QUOTE].
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2987827]I plan to discuss costs in more detail when I do my full reports. Suffice it to say that they have been all over the board. At Bahamas Hotel Club it was a R200 consumo fee to enter, and that was it, putting Bahamas between Scandallo (high) and Casarao (low). And of course, if you choose a girl you negotiate directly with her for the price of the session. Plus there's the room fee. More on all this later.[/QUOTE]Cane thanks for your report. I will be in SP this Saturday, thinking that I will head out to casarao at night. Only thing that I need to find is to exchange dollars. Or if the girls take dollars that would be easier.
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That cost structure is crazy, maybe ok if you're just in town for a week.
The model to follow IMHO is JimmyBoy, who likely has more actual money money as in real cash than most of these self proclaimed high rollers but who sticks to prives, writes local reviews to get discounts, finds the best girls in the prives / clinicas, and makes appointments with them to get them early in the day.
Or you could come into town once after 5 years and make a big show of spending large at all these costly places for covered sex that is hit and miss. So. Just realize that there are different ways to get in the pussy.
[QUOTE=KCK12;2989058]Cane thanks for your report. I will be in SP this Saturday, thinking that I will head out to casarao at night. Only thing that I need to find is to exchange dollars. Or if the girls take dollars that would be easier.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Blakman;2989056]Hope I don't have this problem
.[/QUOTE]You probably will if you look in the places BlueMntn had been visiting 😜 You will do fine if you visit the places most talked about in the forum like clinicas and boetes.
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[QUOTE=BlueMntn;2988961] I currently live in a house close to Av. Paulista. [/QUOTE]You are not far away from Casarao. It should fit your budget.
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[QUOTE=JB238;2989041]Is there a dress code here? I'm thinking more about footwear? Travelling light on a trip around South America so I'm planning on taking one pair of comfortable shoes. So are trainers (aka sneakers in the uncivilised world!) ok?[/QUOTE]It will be fine.
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Question. Why is the entrance so much?
What comes along free with such a costly entrance fee? In both Colombia Centro and Dominican republic Sosua. Girls from the low cost venue at night get dressed up with with cosmetics, heels and attend the higher end venues and charge sometimes double, triple their prices because the weekend high roller or guys easily willing to depart with money are in abundance. Is this what's going on? Or these girls are really the best that world has to offer?
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[QUOTE=JB238;2989041]Is there a dress code here? I'm thinking more about footwear? Travelling light on a trip around South America so I'm planning on taking one pair of comfortable shoes. So are trainers (aka sneakers in the uncivilised world!) ok?[/QUOTE]AFAIK they care very little about dress code.
They may even allow someone wearing a leaf skirt as long as the leafs are stacks of hundred dollar bills (or R200 bills). Even security would let such individual enter without a patdown.
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[QUOTE=Lalabo;2989257]AFAIK they care very little about dress code.
They may even allow someone wearing a leaf skirt as long as the leafs are stacks of hundred dollar bills (or R200 bills). Even security would let such individual enter without a patdown.[/QUOTE]Haha! Fair enough then. Thanks!
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[QUOTE=BlueMntn;2989023]Below 100 USD full service by girl would be great, otherwise it would not be appropriate for me. Such as private casa, massage centre, or even street girls. Appreciate for your help.[/QUOTE]That definitely helps understand what you are looking for. Someone else recently was looking for similar info and few forum members responses. You would be able to find those posts if you read first few pages of this forum. I will give you a big clue to make your search easy. Steve9696.
I meant to ask you which place you have visited because you said you couldn't find any girl. Would you care to share which places those are? You never know someone else might like those places.
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Have to Laugh
[QUOTE=Blakman;2989232]What comes along free with such a costly entrance fee? In both Colombia Centro and Dominican republic Sosua. Girls from the low cost venue at night get dressed up with with cosmetics, heels and attend the higher end venues and charge sometimes double, triple their prices because the weekend high roller or guys easily willing to depart with money are in abundance. Is this what's going on? Or these girls are really the best that world has to offer?[/QUOTE]I know this is an innocent question. But I literally had to laugh. The cover is so high because it can be. When you have a premium product you charge a premium price. It also keeps the clientele at a certain level.
The reason I had to laugh is mentioning centro girls and Sosua girls in the same breath as say Scandallo. These are different planets. Girls at scandallo have to pay a huge cover to get in and peddle their wares. A second or third tier girl is just going to waste their money because they aren't getting a date. So the girls are all top tier. Do some also work at lower end venues? Sure. Smart girls will maximize their earnings like Economics 101.
But yeah the high price for both guys and girls makes sure Scandallo is the best girls club on planet earth. No comparison.
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Thanks for information and advice
I am using mobile phone not the laptop to write the messages because I am travelling and have not bring my laptop to reduce the travelling bag.
Thanks gents for replying my post.
I have not visited any such places in the past few days because I was staying in a home stay that I was feeling not convenient to go out. Today I moved to a hotel in Vila Mariana area, where is closed to clinica tangara. Did a young girl who said she was 22. Shooted my first shot in Brazil. I don't speak Portuguese and she speaks very little English so we used google translator in communication. Body language can do the main thing.
Tomorrow I will reach the casarao at the night.
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Stevie I hope your right
Maybe I should have said Gusto. And if they put Gusto in medellin to shame you will make me a believer. And even with Gusto I didn't spend. Put it down on a chick so good she stayed with me 1 week for ridiculous price. That's old covid news. Hey keep the feed back coming. I am that cheap guy with decent money that I guess it's time to spend some. How about some local clubs any names you can drop. Or local strip clubs? I like to soak in all the data.
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Another visit to Casaro.
I visited Casaro on Wednesday night. Arrived around 1. 30 am. There was a deep line of guys eager to get in. It was a twenty-minute wait to get in past the security check.
As I walked through the doors the strip show was going full tilt with the garota giving a guy a BJ on stage. The male stripper grabbed a garota from the crowd. Stripped off her top exposing her natural large big tits. I was barely inside the door when two twenty-one-year-old garotas I banged the night before, ran toward me, they did a sprint to jump into my arms. Casie is a hot young Loria branca. 21 years, slender athletic body. She dropped to her knees to kiss the boys. Whoa now I am not part of the show kkkk.
Manu a delicious cute Morena looks like a young sluttier lighter Megan markle. She is a damn energizer bunny in bed. She is one of those up and coming instagram models posting her hot body wearing only dental floss.
We went straight to negotiations since they were soo damn eager to do deep throat on the spot. I didn't buy them any drinks. Barely had a chance to look around so I said 450 reais for one hour, swallow leche, and don't miss a drop otherwise I minus 50 reais plus do genuine lesbian action and cum swap my leche into each other open mouths. They both agreed immediately, no counter offer no paying upfront. No negotiation just eager to get it on with hot sex! Yes to everything I wanted. They were young fresh and eager to get the action going.
Someone asked about the dress code. Casaro is a relaxed bar puta house. Wear whatever ya want. It seems the locals wear dark black shirts & jeans type of place. I wore a white gym shirt to be different from the crowd.
The hands-on those two young garotas were roaming everywhere. Shitz two cuties draped all over me wasn't how I planned to start the night. We went to the hotel next door. Waited for 30 minutes before our number was called. The guy gave them the key to room 21. I told them heck no. He knows I like the larger rooms with the stripper poles. These are rooms 1-8. Not going to miss out on private, anything goes, Lesbie & three-way action causes the room sucks. I tipped him 10 reais to get the better room with the stripper pole. Room number 7 on the ground floor will do nicely.
I had extraordinary fun with two young 21-year-old Brazilian vixens that had no sexual inhibition. Neither was drunk or had drinks. Pure sexual horny energy fueled them both. As promised Both did everything my drunk ass could think of plus more. The brasilian IoP in sex is fvcking awesome. At the end of the sex gymnastics, all of us were spent, exhausted, gulping down bottles of rehydrating water. I gave them 450 reais each at the end of the hour nothing extra, didn't buy any drinks for them except water. A good time had by all.
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I love this post / Stay in SP or split with Rio
Very descriptive, raw, and insightful. Definitely up my freaky alley. Economical as well. I am staying about 17 days. Do I include Rio, if yes how many days. Means of transport to Rio. This question is for anyone who likes to respond.
[QUOTE=Tochka;2989466]Another visit to Casaro.
I visited Casaro on Wednesday night. Arrived around 1. 30 am. There was a deep line of guys eager to get in. It was a twenty-minute wait to get in past the security check.
As I walked through the doors the strip show was going full tilt with the garota giving a guy a BJ on stage. The male stripper grabbed a garota from the crowd. Stripped off her top exposing her natural large big tits. I was barely inside the door when two twenty-one-year-old garotas I banged the night before, ran toward me, they did a sprint to jump into my arms. Casie is a hot young Loria branca. 21 years, slender athletic body. She dropped to her knees to kiss the boys. Whoa now I am not part of the show kkkk.
Manu a delicious cute Morena looks like a young sluttier lighter Megan markle. She is a damn energizer bunny in bed. She is one of those up and coming instagram models posting her hot body wearing only dental floss.
We went straight to negotiations since they were soo damn eager to do deep throat on the spot. I didn't buy them any drinks. Barely had a chance to look around so I said 450 reais for one hour, swallow leche, and don't miss a drop otherwise I minus 50 reais plus do genuine lesbian action and cum swap my leche into each other open mouths. They both agreed immediately, no counter offer no paying upfront. No negotiation just eager to get it on with hot sex! Yes to everything I wanted..[/QUOTE]
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Great news bluemntn
Keep the posting going. In two weeks I might be following your trail LOL.
[QUOTE=BlueMntn;2989318]I am using mobile phone not the laptop to write the messages because I am travelling and have not bring my laptop to reduce the travelling bag.
Thanks gents for replying my post.
I have not visited any such places in the past few days because I was staying in a home stay that I was feeling not convenient to go out. Today I moved to a hotel in Vila Mariana area, where is closed to clinica tangara. Did a young girl who said she was 22. Shooted my first shot in Brazil. I don't speak Portuguese and she speaks very little English so we used google translator in communication. Body language can do the main thing.
Tomorrow I will reach the casarao at the night.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Tochka;2989466]Another visit to Casaro.
I had extraordinary fun with two young 21-year-old Brazilian vixens that had no sexual inhibition. Neither was drunk or had drinks. Pure sexual horny energy fueled them both. As promised Both did everything my drunk ass could think of plus more. The brasilian IoP in sex is fvcking awesome. At the end of the sex gymnastics, all of us were spent, exhausted, gulping down bottles of rehydrating water. I gave them 450 reais each at the end of the hour nothing extra, didn't buy any drinks for them except water. A good time had by all.[/QUOTE]This place and Scandello sound amazing. Can't wait to be there in about 4 weeks.
What time does the queue outside Casaro start building up? Most on here say don't arrive before 11 pm, but it seems a queue forms quite soon after this?
Seems from what I read that at Casaro you are usually looking at a 20 minute wait for a room. That's a lot of small talk and borderline awkward if you speak naff all Portuguese.
Maybe I'm overthinking it and I'm sure all will be fine!
(oh and thanks for the dress code mention. That was me asking).
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You will be fine
[QUOTE=JB238;2989514]This place and Scandello sound amazing. Can't wait to be there in about 4 weeks.
What time does the queue outside Casaro start building up? Most on here say don't arrive before 11 pm, but it seems a queue forms quite soon after this?
Seems from what I read that at Casaro you are usually looking at a 20 minute wait for a room. That's a lot of small talk and borderline awkward if you speak naff all Portuguese.
Maybe I'm overthinking it and I'm sure all will be fine!
(oh and thanks for the dress code mention. That was me asking).[/QUOTE]Yes. You are over thinking it. I've never hit a queue going in. I like to arrive 11 ish and settle in and watch the girls parade in around 12. Yes you will prob have to wait for a room. It's no big deal. Or take her back to your hotel for the night. Standard offer is 2 x hourly rate.
P.S. If you want to fit in wear a black Tshirt and sneakers. I don't give a fuck and wear a dress shirt. I'm a big white dude so I stand out anyhow. But virtually everyone else will be Brazilians in black t shirts. LOL.
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Clinicas + Boates credit card charge name?
Does anyone know the name of the charge that shows up in your bank account if you use credit card to pay at clinicas and boates? Are they discrete about it or does the name show up as "Scandallo lounge" or "Casarao"? I'm trying to avoid using my card down there as much as possible but if I run out of cash, I might have to. Someone said another option would be to use Pix so that the charges show up as a Pix transfer. I have done some research online and apparently you can send Pix via the Wise app so I might just use that. Do the clinicas and boates accept Pix as a form of payment? Also, what does the phrase "Pix incentives" mean? I've seen that phrase used quite a bit on here.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2989515]Yes. You are over thinking it. I've never hit a queue going in. I like to arrive 11 ish and settle in and watch the girls parade in around 12. Yes you will prob have to wait for a room. It's no big deal. Or take her back to your hotel for the night. Standard offer is 2 x hourly rate.
P.S. If you want to fit in wear a black Tshirt and sneakers. I don't give a fuck and wear a dress shirt. I'm a big white dude so I stand out anyhow. But virtually everyone else will be Brazilians in black t shirts. LOL.[/QUOTE]Cheers Steve. Arriving for 11 pm is my plan and pleased to hear trainers are ok. Counting down the days now.
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Early bird
[QUOTE=JB238;2989514]This place and Scandello sound amazing. Can't wait to be there in about 4 weeks.
What time does the queue outside Casaro start building up? Most on here say don't arrive before 11 pm, but it seems a queue forms quite soon after this?
Seems from what I read that at Casaro you are usually looking at a 20 minute wait for a room. That's a lot of small talk and borderline awkward if you speak naff all Portuguese.
Maybe I'm overthinking it and I'm sure all will be fine!
(oh and thanks for the dress code mention. That was me asking).[/QUOTE]Casarao. There are advantages to going early, before 11 p. It opens at 10 p. There are groups of local Asians who come early and swoop in picking up many of the young spinners. They would sit and drink for a while on the downstairs sofas and sometimes take them out for the entire night. Normally I wouldn't mind as there are plenty of girls, but these girls are exactly my type. Sometimes if I can, I would get there early and watch the girls walk in.
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Trip Note
[B]Introduction[/B]
I'm excited to share my journey as I plan my first trip to Brazil! Over the past few months, I've been diving into forums, reading trip reports, and gathering tips from experienced travelers. This note is a collection of everything I've learned so far, and I hope it can be a helpful guide for others who are new to the Brazil scene, just like me.
I want to make it clear that I haven't personally confirmed all the details in this note, and I don't take credit for the information. A huge shoutout to Mr. Tochka, Mr. Steve 9696, Mr. Anaggie, and Mr. Caneyour insights have been invaluable in helping me piece this together.
As I continue my trip planning, I'll update this note with new information and experiences. If you notice any mistakes or have additional tips, please don't hesitate to correct me or share your thoughts. Let's make this a collaborative resource for everyone exploring Brazil for the first time!
This guide includes everything you need to know for your trip to Brazil, from accommodations and entertainment to transportation, safety tips, and detailed information on escort websites and massage locations.
[B]1. Visa & Travel Documentation[/B]
EVisa Requirement: Starting April 10,2024, USA Citizens must obtain an eVisa to enter Brazil.
Cost: $40 USD.
Processing Time: 3-5 business days (apply at least 2 weeks in advance).
Essential Documents: Passport, printed / digital eVisa, government-issued ID, and travel confirmations.
Tip: Store digital backups in Google Drive or email.
[B]2. Accommodation[/B]
[B]So Paulo Moema[/B]
Noise Considerations: Moema is near Congonhas Airport (CGH), so expect constant jet noise.
[B]Hotels[/B]:
Mercure So Paulo Moema Times Square: 100130/ night. Guest-friendly, bar / restaurant downstairs. Moderate noise.
Estanplaza Ibirapuera: 100130/ night. Closer to Clinicas but no bar / restaurant. Moderate noise.
Wyndham near Ibirapuera Mall: $100/ night. Noise reduced but not eliminated.
[B]Airbnb[/B]:
Look for apartments with double-pane windows or soundproofing.
Price: 3045/ night for studios.
Tip: Email hosts to confirm soundproofing features.
Other Areas: Av. Paulista, Vila Marina, and Brooklyn are quieter but farther from Clinicas. Uber rides in the rain can be tiresome.
[B]Rio de Janeiro Copacabana[/B]
[B]Luxury Hotels[/B]: Fairmont Rio (350500/ night), Fasano Rio (400600/ night), JW Marriott (300450/ night).
[B]Mid-Range Hotels[/B]: Windsor California (150200/ night), Pestana RJ (120160/ night).
[B]Budget Option[/B]: Ibis Posto 5 (6090/ night).
[B]Airbnb Recommendation[/B]: Avenida Atlntica 2692 (225/ night, ocean view, rooftop pool, gym).
[B]3. Entertainment & Activities[/B]
[B]So Paulo[/B]
[B]Nightlife & Bars[/B]:
Casaro: Well-known entertainment venue.
Scandallo: Entry R200 (40 USD), drinks R30 R50 (610 USD).
[B]Spa & Massage[/B]: Various local spas and massage parlors.
[B]Rio de Janeiro[/B]
[B]Nightlife & Bars[/B]:
Mabs Bar (Copacabana): Free entry, drinks R20 R50 (410 USD).
Guacamole (Barra the Tijuca): Entry R50 (10 USD), drinks R25 R40 (58 USD).
[B]Termas (Spa Clubs)[/B]:
Premium: Solarium, Monte Carlo, Centaurus.
Budget-Friendly: Vila Mimosa (Centro), Blue Room (Centro).
[B]Beaches[/B]:
Praia the Reserva (Barra the Tijuca): Less crowded, natural beach.
Posto 2 (Barra the Tijuca): Best for fit girls and talent.
[B]4. Escort Websites[/B]
[B]Barra VIPS Rio[/B]: [URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com[/URL].
[B]Rio Sex Site[/B]: [URL]https://www.riosexsite.com[/URL].
[B]Fatal Model[/B]: [URL]https://fatalmodel.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-rj[/URL] (They come to you).
[B]Photo Acompanhantes[/B]: [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com[/URL].
[B]5. Massage Locations[/B]
[B]Espao Terapias[/B]: [URL]https://espacoterapias.com.br[/URL] (You go to them).
[B]Duda Massagem[/B]: Av. Rio Branco 156, Centro, Sala 3320.1 h: R200,30 min: R170.
[B]Onix Terapias[/B]: Av. Rio Branco 156, Sala 2235.1 h: R170,30 min: R140. [URL]https://onixterapias.com[/URL] (Choose VIP room).
[B]Studio Malibu[/B]: Av. Rio Branco 156, Sala 606.
[B]Belprazer[/B]: Av. Rio Branco 185, Sala 2114.1 h: R180,30 min: R140. Clean rooms with AC and shower. Highly recommended.
[B]Dark Room[/B]: Praca Olavo Bilac 28, Floor 20.1 h: R140,30 min: R100. [URL]https://www.darkroom.com.br[/URL].
[B]Espacio Terapias[/B]: Praca Olavo Bilac 28, Sala 1417.
[B]Eden Spa Copacabana[/B]: Av. Nossa Sra de Copacabana 583, Sala 401.1 h: R200,30 min: R140. [URL]https://www.edenspa.com.br[/URL].
[B]Delirio Oriental[/B]: Rua Hilario de Gouveia 66, Sala 201.1 h: R200,30 min: R150. [URL]https://deliriooriental.com.br[/URL].
[B]6. Termas & Nightclubs[/B]
[B]Termas 4x4[/B]: Rua Buenos Aires 44, Centro. Entry: R70,30 min: R350. Best time: 5-8 PM for full lineup.
[B]Centro de Lazer MV30 Club[/B]: Rua Mairink Veiga 30, Centro. Entry: R10,30 min: R150.
[B]Uphouse Nightclub[/B]: Av. Mem de S 89, Lapa. Entry: R10,30 min: R150,1 h:300.
[B]Club 502[/B]: Rua Alfandega 55, Centro. Entry: R10,30 min: R170.
[B]Dolce Vita[/B]: Av. Atlantica 1424. Not recommended.
[B]7. Transportation[/B]
[B]Uber/99[/B]: Safe and affordable.
Airport to Copacabana: R60 R120 (1225 USD).
Short trips: R15 R40 (38 USD).
[B]Metro (So Paulo)[/B]: R4. 40 (1 USD) per ride. Not 24/7.
[B]Taxis[/B]: Use only official taxis or apps like Taxi Rio. Risk of overcharging.
[B]8. Safety & Tips[/B]
Pickpockets: Common in Copacabana, Lapa, and public transport.
ATMs: Use only inside banks to avoid skimming fraud.
Guest Registration: Some hotels require guest ID registration.
Fake Uber Drivers: Always verify license plate and driver details.
[B]9. Tipping Guidelines[/B]
Not Expected: Tipping is not customary in Brazil.
Alternative: Bring small gifts like chocolates, perfume, or accessories.
If Tipping:
Bartenders / Waiters: R5 R20 (14 USD).
Hotel Staff: R10 R20 (24 USD).
[B]10. Key Reminders[/B]
Termas Best Time: 5-8 PM for full lineups.
Prives Hours: Monday-Friday (10 AM-10 PM), Saturday (10 AM6 PM), closed Sundays.
WhatsApp Bookings: Many massage spots and private clubs accept bookings via WhatsApp.
Carnival: Termas may be closed during Carnival (check ahead).
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[QUOTE=TattooedTuna;2989567][B]Introduction[/B]
I'm excited to share my journey as I plan my first trip to Brazil! Over the past few months, I've been diving into forums, reading trip reports, and gathering tips from experienced travelers. This note is a collection of everything I've learned so far, and I hope it can be a helpful guide for others who are new to the Brazil scene, just like me.
[/QUOTE]Very impressive work, TT. I reminded me of planning my 1st trip to FKK land 12+ years ago by reading the forum. The German FKK forum had enough info for me to plan a 2-week trip without asking a single question on this forum. I commend you for putting the time & effort reading through the forum instead of taking the lazy route.
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Visa requirements
[QUOTE=TattooedTuna;2989567][B]Introduction[/B]
I'm excited to share my journey as I plan my first trip to Brazil! Over the past few months, I've been diving into forums, reading trip reports, and gathering tips from experienced travelers. This note is a collection of everything I've learned so far, and I hope it can be a helpful guide for others who are new to the Brazil scene, just like me.
I want to make it clear that I haven't personally confirmed all the details in this note, and I don't take credit for the information. A huge shoutout to Mr. Tochka, Mr. Steve 9696, Mr. Anaggie, and Mr. Caneyour insights have been invaluable in helping me piece this together.
As I continue my trip planning, I'll update this note with new information and experiences. If you notice any mistakes or have additional tips, please don't hesitate to correct me or share your thoughts. Let's make this a collaborative resource for everyone exploring Brazil for the first time!
This guide includes everything you need to know for your trip to Brazil, from accommodations and entertainment to transportation, safety tips, and detailed information on escort websites and massage locations.
[B]1. Visa & Travel Documentation[/B]
EVisa Requirement: Starting April 10,2024, USA Citizens must obtain an eVisa to enter Brazil.
Cost: $40 USD.
Processing Time: 3-5 business days (apply at least 2 weeks in advance).
Essential Documents: Passport, printed / digital eVisa, government-issued ID, and travel confirmations.
Tip: Store digital backups in Google Drive or email.
[B]2. Accommodation[/B]
[B]So Paulo Moema[/B]
Noise Considerations: Moema is near Congonhas Airport (CGH), so expect constant jet noise.
[B]Hotels[/B]:
Mercure So Paulo Moema Times Square: 100130/ night. Guest-friendly, bar / restaurant downstairs. Moderate noise.
Estanplaza Ibirapuera: 100130/ night. Closer to Clinicas but no bar / restaurant. Moderate noise.
Wyndham near Ibirapuera Mall: $100/ night. Noise reduced but not eliminated.
[B]Airbnb[/B]:
Look for apartments with double-pane windows or soundproofing.
Price: 3045/ night for studios.
Tip: Email hosts to confirm soundproofing features.
Other Areas: Av. Paulista, Vila Marina, and Brooklyn are quieter but farther from Clinicas. Uber rides in the rain can be tiresome.
[B]Rio de Janeiro Copacabana[/B]
[B]Luxury Hotels[/B]: Fairmont Rio (350500/ night), Fasano Rio (400600/ night), JW Marriott (300450/ night).
[B]Mid-Range Hotels[/B]: Windsor California (150200/ night), Pestana RJ (120160/ night).
[B]Budget Option[/B]: Ibis Posto 5 (6090/ night).
[B]Airbnb Recommendation[/B]: Avenida Atlntica 2692 (225/ night, ocean view, rooftop pool, gym).
[B]3. Entertainment & Activities[/B]
[B]So Paulo[/B]
[B]Nightlife & Bars[/B]:
Casaro: Well-known entertainment venue.
Scandallo: Entry R200 (40 USD), drinks R30 R50 (610 USD).
[B]Spa & Massage[/B]: Various local spas and massage parlors.
[B]Rio de Janeiro[/B]
[B]Nightlife & Bars[/B]:
Mabs Bar (Copacabana): Free entry, drinks R20 R50 (410 USD).
Guacamole (Barra the Tijuca): Entry R50 (10 USD), drinks R25 R40 (58 USD).
[B]Termas (Spa Clubs)[/B]:
Premium: Solarium, Monte Carlo, Centaurus.
Budget-Friendly: Vila Mimosa (Centro), Blue Room (Centro).
[B]Beaches[/B]:
Praia the Reserva (Barra the Tijuca): Less crowded, natural beach.
Posto 2 (Barra the Tijuca): Best for fit girls and talent.
[B]4. Escort Websites[/B]
[B]Barra VIPS Rio[/B]: [URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com[/URL].
[B]Rio Sex Site[/B]: [URL]https://www.riosexsite.com[/URL].
[B]Fatal Model[/B]: [URL]https://fatalmodel.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-rj[/URL] (They come to you).
[B]Photo Acompanhantes[/B]: [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com[/URL].
[B]5. Massage Locations[/B]
[B]Espao Terapias[/B]: [URL]https://espacoterapias.com.br[/URL] (You go to them).
[B]Duda Massagem[/B]: Av. Rio Branco 156, Centro, Sala 3320.1 h: R200,30 min: R170.
[B]Onix Terapias[/B]: Av. Rio Branco 156, Sala 2235.1 h: R170,30 min: R140. [URL]https://onixterapias.com[/URL] (Choose VIP room).
[B]Studio Malibu[/B]: Av. Rio Branco 156, Sala 606.
[B]Belprazer[/B]: Av. Rio Branco 185, Sala 2114.1 h: R180,30 min: R140. Clean rooms with AC and shower. Highly recommended.
[B]Dark Room[/B]: Praca Olavo Bilac 28, Floor 20.1 h: R140,30 min: R100. [URL]https://www.darkroom.com.br[/URL].
[B]Espacio Terapias[/B]: Praca Olavo Bilac 28, Sala 1417.
[B]Eden Spa Copacabana[/B]: Av. Nossa Sra de Copacabana 583, Sala 401.1 h: R200,30 min: R140. [URL]https://www.edenspa.com.br[/URL].
[B]Delirio Oriental[/B]: Rua Hilario de Gouveia 66, Sala 201.1 h: R200,30 min: R150. [URL]https://deliriooriental.com.br[/URL].
[B]6. Termas & Nightclubs[/B]
[B]Termas 4x4[/B]: Rua Buenos Aires 44, Centro. Entry: R70,30 min: R350. Best time: 5-8 PM for full lineup.
[B]Centro de Lazer MV30 Club[/B]: Rua Mairink Veiga 30, Centro. Entry: R10,30 min: R150.
[B]Uphouse Nightclub[/B]: Av. Mem de S 89, Lapa. Entry: R10,30 min: R150,1 h:300.
[B]Club 502[/B]: Rua Alfandega 55, Centro. Entry: R10,30 min: R170.
[B]Dolce Vita[/B]: Av. Atlantica 1424. Not recommended.
[B]7. Transportation[/B]
[B]Uber/99[/B]: Safe and affordable.
Airport to Copacabana: R60 R120 (1225 USD).
Short trips: R15 R40 (38 USD).
[B]Metro (So Paulo)[/B]: R4. 40 (1 USD) per ride. Not 24/7.
[B]Taxis[/B]: Use only official taxis or apps like Taxi Rio. Risk of overcharging.
[B]8. Safety & Tips[/B]
Pickpockets: Common in Copacabana, Lapa, and public transport.
ATMs: Use only inside banks to avoid skimming fraud.
Guest Registration: Some hotels require guest ID registration.
Fake Uber Drivers: Always verify license plate and driver details.
[B]9. Tipping Guidelines[/B]
Not Expected: Tipping is not customary in Brazil.
Alternative: Bring small gifts like chocolates, perfume, or accessories.
If Tipping:
Bartenders / Waiters: R5 R20 (14 USD).
Hotel Staff: R10 R20 (24 USD).
[B]10. Key Reminders[/B]
Termas Best Time: 5-8 PM for full lineups.
Prives Hours: Monday-Friday (10 AM-10 PM), Saturday (10 AM6 PM), closed Sundays.
WhatsApp Bookings: Many massage spots and private clubs accept bookings via WhatsApp.
Carnival: Termas may be closed during Carnival (check ahead).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info!
Just a note, the visa requirement for US nationals starts in April 2025 according to this:
[URL]https://br.usembassy.gov/message-for-u-s-citizens-postponement-of-brazilian-visa-requirement-to-2025/[/URL]
Thanks!
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Ditto!
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2989598]Very impressive work, TT. I reminded me of planning my 1st trip to FKK land 12+ years ago by reading the forum. The German FKK forum had enough info for me to plan a 2-week trip without asking a single question on this forum. I commend you for putting the time & effort reading through the forum instead of taking the lazy route.[/QUOTE]The man has done his homework. He's going to have a great time!
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Credit card names
Yup, I saw the group of guys downstairs scooping up cuties early. My type differs from theirs. However The boss's move is to go next door to the hotel FIRST before 11 pm to watch them check in their purses. There is a double line of garotas getting security checked into the hotel to drop off their stuff and add their purses to the wall of puta bags. They use the large mirrored wall with the seated bench, to put on their makeup & change into sexy outfits, use the bathroom to change. I have seen them transform from GND to the glamorous illusion of sexy hotness in a few minutes. I scooped up fine sweet new garotas BEFORE they entered Casarao. I am sharing this in case the early birds before 11 pm dudes want to check it out. I just don't give a crap enough to go early 1 am for me works fine. And ruining the illusion of passion IoP peeking behind the curtain to see the real deal eventually sucks. It is an opportunity to see the fresh young 21 year old natural beauties or newbie GDP before everyone else.
Credit card.
In the past, I had a hard enough time trying to match the Clinica names to match the credit charges name when it showed up.
The clinicas in Moema and Scandallo, Casarao talked about here show up on my card.
This is how some boates, clinicians, and centro massage in Rio joints show up on my credit card.
King Tavern,
Matrix / Matrix Hqs.
Novo espao Morumbi.
Serv Center,
Mnc cosmetics,
Estdio servio.
Infoshopping.
W estdio,
Amanda Silva Gama.
Now figuring out which place is scandallo or prime Clinica is half the fun. NOT kkkk.
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Strategy!
[QUOTE=Tochka;2989665]Yup, I saw the group of guys downstairs scooping up cuties early. My type differs from theirs. However The boss's move is to go next door to the hotel FIRST before 11 pm to watch them check in their purses. There is a double line of garotas getting security checked into the hotel to drop off their stuff and add their purses to the wall of puta bags. They use the large mirrored wall with the seated bench, to put on their makeup & change into sexy outfits, use the bathroom to change. I have seen them transform from GND to the glamorous illusion of sexy hotness in a few minutes. I scooped up fine sweet new garotas BEFORE they entered Casarao. I am sharing this in case the early birds before 11 pm dudes want to check it out. I just don't give a crap enough to go early 1 am for me works fine. And ruining the illusion of passion IoP peeking behind the curtain to see the real deal eventually sucks. It is an opportunity to see the fresh young 21 year old natural beauties or newbie GDP before everyone else.[/QUOTE]That's a great strategy Tochka! I'm an early bird guy and don't like to wait until late to see who is on the stroll. So, you're saying it's OK to actually hang around on the hotel side without having to pay anything to be in there? If that's true then I would definitely do that and go after the ones I like before they even hit the main stroll! I wouldn't care about "losing the illusion" either. It would be a turn on for me actually to see the "girl next door" turn herself into an "anal hoor"!
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[QUOTE=Lalabo;2989598]Very impressive work, TT. I reminded me of planning my 1st trip to FKK land 12+ years ago by reading the forum. The German FKK forum had enough info for me to plan a 2-week trip without asking a single question on this forum. I commend you for putting the time & effort reading through the forum instead of taking the lazy route.[/QUOTE]Appreciate that! Doing the research has been half the fun—feels like putting together a treasure map, haha. Definitely better than asking the same questions over and over. 12+ years ago? That's some OG-level planning! Cheers!
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[QUOTE=Dlatin77;2989604]Thanks for the info!
Just a note, the visa requirement for US nationals starts in April 2025 according to this:
[URL]https://br.usembassy.gov/message-for-u-s-citizens-postponement-of-brazilian-visa-requirement-to-2025/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Haha, that was a typo! I knew it was happening this year, just didn't register that we're already in 2025. Time's flying too fast! I'll correct it in my next update. Thanks for the catch!
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What venue has the most pretas?
Each country that I have mongered in while I enjoy variety, I tend to like to see a good portion of black women to see that perfect ass in my eyes. So the question will I see this in scandallo and casarao in decent numbers or just a few. And where can I go to see in good numbers. Should I include rio in my travels or Sao Paulo is enough for two weeks and do Rio on a next trip.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2989668]That's a great strategy Tochka! I'm an early bird guy and don't like to wait until late to see who is on the stroll. So, you're saying it's OK to actually hang around on the hotel side without having to pay anything to be in there? If that's true then I would definitely do that and go after the ones I like before they even hit the main stroll! [/QUOTE]I always saw a security guard in front of the next-door hotel allowing only girls or guys accompanied by a girl to enter. So, I am bit skeptical about men alone being allowed to enter. Then again, its Tochka we are talking about! Anything is possible 😉.
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[QUOTE=Tochka;2989665]
Credit card.
In the past, I had a hard enough time trying to match the Clinica names to match the credit charges name when it showed up.
The clinicas in Moema and Scandallo, Casarao talked about here show up on my card.
[/QUOTE]I don't think the ones you have listed are from Scandallo because the charges on my CC for the last 3+ years were with a different name.
I will just say that Scandallo club charge on CC appears as a restaurant charge that doesn't identifying the club's name. The room charge appears as lodging again without identifying the name of the club.
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[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2989552]Casarao. There are advantages to going early, before 11 p. It opens at 10 p. There are groups of local Asians who come early and swoop in picking up many of the young spinners. They would sit and drink for a while on the downstairs sofas and sometimes take them out for the entire night. Normally I wouldn't mind as there are plenty of girls, but these girls are exactly my type. Sometimes if I can, I would get there early and watch the girls walk in.[/QUOTE]The Asians you mentioned are portu speaking Japanese Brazilians or folks coming straight out of China? Very different groups.
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57 friends
This is my report of the spot at 57 Friends and club at Moema near Congonhas airport. I entered on Friday 6 pm, very early. There was an old blonde lady at the reception which handles all the business there. No entrance fee was charged to me which I think was strange or it it's normal. They ask if you want to see the girls show to you. At this time there were around 9 girls. Most of them were between 22-29 with exceptions going to 35. All of them wore sexy dresses which I could see their tight young bodies. Fees ranged before 8 pm 1 hour 330 reais half hour 240. Rooms included in the service. Unfortunately I had ALOT of troubles with paying with CC. My credit card can't pass through their only point of sale which meant I either have cash or pix. Pix is impossible because of foreigner status. And here is where it comes the biggest SUPRISE FOR THE ENTIRE NIGHT. I expected to leave and gave the old woman a warm goodbye in Portuguese, I was with my friend but only I spoke Portuguese. She asked me if I had cash and I said yeah. Told her I had dollars which she honestly accepted at a great exchange rate, even better than airport currency exchanges.
Spent some time playing 8 ball at the tables near. Sadly I couldn't chose the girl I wanted because she was already booked. My friend had to leave early for return so we exited the place with no action on my behalf. Late at night 4 to 8 women come to the club to work. Early there isn't a lot of talent. This concludes my journey in SP. I was there for just one day but wished I could experience going to Casarao or Scandallo and get a fine piece for the entire night. Next trip I will aim for this.
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Sao Paulo trip report
Landed in SP and checked into the JW Marriott. It's next to Parque the Cidade so you can shop and there are decent restaurants and a food court. Wasn't in the mood for anything fancy just yet so went to the food court and headed over to Prime for the afternoon.
Walking in the little outside area, I saw Lucy sitting with Laisy. I said Hi and talked a bit and then went inside to talk to the desk lady who called for a presentation. Only 4 girls came out. It was about 2 PM. There was one branca loira with big silicone tits and a tight body, but the cutest one there was Lucy so I went back outside and started talking to her. She speaks English. She is super cute. Some tats on her face that she is getting removed. Went in for a 30. Slid behind her and she melted into me and turned back to start kissing and it was on from there. Great service. I rate her a 7. Good way to start.
I headed back to my hotel. I had scheduled with Lia before I came out so she was set to arrive at about 4 PM. She showed up right on time and I met her outside and we went up. She looks like a tiny school girl. Had short shorts, a tank top, and a backpack. If you like spinners, she is perfect. Not an ounce of fat. Pretty delicious body and big cute eyes. Good service. Delicious moans, and got a bit louder in various positions. I rate her an 7-8 as well.
Needed some rest (I don't sleep well on planes and after 17 hours of travel I needed rest). So after getting the frustration out I relaxed a bit.
The following night I had called Sophie Magnezyta. She is all over as a social media influencer with Twitter, Instagram, OF, and Privacy. I had her meet me at the shopping and we walked into the side entrace and avoided the lobby and lounge and went straight up to the room. Had a nice smooch in the elevator and then continued in the room. I ate her out and she got very wet. I said I wanted to fuck and she just looked at me and I was a bit confused so I asked if she had a cover. She didn't. She looked in her purse and didn't. She was rummaging through her phone saying we need to go to a pharmacy and I'm thinking this whole encounter is going south and I'm going to get scammed. But I'm standing behind her and she starts grinding against me and starts kissing me again and so my cock is rubbing her ass and her pussy and I just slip it in and she lets out a moan. The next 40 minutes was some of the best non-stop fucking I have had in a long time. IoP was off the charts. Sounds, tastes, she is hot as fuck, and does this little lip biting that is sexy. We went to the couch, we fucked on the desk, we went back to the bed. I was drained. Slept damn good that night.
Decided to head to Casarao. Lots of 5's and a only a few 8's. They were asking for quite a bit of money. From $650 to $1 K. I spoke to Evelyn for a bit when I first walked in but told her I wanted to walk around first. Her face iooks like Stacy Kiebler and she is really thin but still has an ample ass. After about 40 minutes, nothing good was showing up so I told her she's the best looking girl in there and I'd give her $500 for an hour. Multiple pops, DFK, BBBJ, etc. She said $650 and I walked. But she was not having any luck so whenever she went by our eyes locked. She finally said, OK, let's go. So we went. Not the best but still pretty damn good. Decent BBBJ but nearly as good as Sophie's. LFK turned into DFK but I noticed a bit of smoker's breath but it wasn't that bad. Good moans and she was game for any position and we pounded for 40 minutes straight and then she took a shower and then I took a shower because we were both sweating by then. Then we chatted for a bit and she showed me some cool places to visit and we shared whatsapp and connected via Insta.
Then shit got weird and I got myself ripped off a bit but it's OK. My phone wouldn't connect to a service and I couldn't get Uber to work. I tried turning the radio off and on. I tried rebooting. WTF. So I go across the street and hop into a taxi and I ask how much to get back to the JW? It should have been are $50-60. He wanted are $130. Fuck me. But I got no other options so I agree. Then about 5 minutes into the ride my stupid phone decides it wants to start working again. WTF. Oh well, not a big deal.
Heading to Rio tomorrow morning.
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A Present is not Payment
The former Bradesco bank across from Shopping Ibupera has been closed for several months. The Bradesco bank ATM on Av. Ibirapuera, 2220 opens late. I visited that particular Bradesco ATM lobby at 10 pm as part of an Uber stop on the way to Scandallo or on the way to meet two fine-ass garotas for a three-way rendezvous at the "colonial palace" motel. However, during the evening torrential downpours in SP, combined with the freaking traffic makes it inconvenient for a fast Uber stop. Yesterday I was inside the shopping Ibuperia mall, noticed the Santander ATM screen was slightly different than before (maybe a software upgrade?) At the mall.
I tried one of the Santander ATMs, lo and behold it worked. I successfully withdrew cash — sweet. 1000 reais. Dunno why the lower limit per transaction shrug.
Bradesco is still my goto ATM bank in São Paulo & Rio with 2500 withdrawals except on special holidays or if the machine is low on cash. Sometime the ATM churns and churns and churns and I am standing there hoping for a payout. In Rio at the corner of the military police hqs bradesco lobby is open very late hours. Sketchy homeless around at night.
The Bradesco Bank ATM on the same block as the General Quarters of the Militar Policia is open late The googl.
Are. Evaristo the Veiga, 264 - Centro, Rio de Janeiro. RJ.
Sao Paulo.
I was already in the Shopping Ibuperia mall buying Uber gift cards for $25 reais or $50 reais as small presents for various long-time girlfriends. Uber sets a stupid low limit for buying and sending Uber gift cards in the app while in Brazil. I usually buy a stack of iFood & Uber gift cards as small presents. As one longtime scandallo Garota posts on IG specific to her English speaking clients "A Present is not Payment" kkkkk.
(rant on) I learned to order Uber for garotas or give them a gift card to order the Uber so they can send me the route and arrival time. I track their Uber to know if they are really on the way or more bullshit.
(rant off).
Someone ask about costs to fly from Sao Paulo (GRU or CGH) to Rio (GIG or SDU) or Rio to São Paulo.
I booked one way ticket from CGH to SDU Sao Paulo to Rio for $75 usd if booked couple of weeks in advance. The flight is less than one hour wheels up to wheels down. There are flights leaving every fifteen or twenty minutes on this direct route and its return.
Use Google Flights to find a good price point between these four airports. I book at least two weeks in advance to get the $75 usd or less deal. Most convenient from Moema to Centro is CGH to SDU. Pay extra for the option to change the same day flight time. Unexpectedly two curvy bunda, bleached blonde garotas, are on on their knees slurping away keeping me happy in Panda motel (Rio) or Colonial Palace (São Paulo) we are drinking whiskey, smoking marola, seu Jorge & Filipe Rey on blue tooth speaker, for a couple of hours. Dann going to miss the flight as these two blonde vixens ain't letting up any time soon.
Screw it, bring up the app —boom change the flight to a later departure time —bingo change to another later one. Until last flight out. One time going Rio to São Paulo I was in centro, at Dudas with a fresh newbie. Changed the flight six fucking times, and Panda motel in botofoga changed three times because she was a nonstop sex machine from Monte Carlo.
The same route jumps to $200 usd one way buying within one week or less. The Same route becomes very expensive for last minute booking. Some guy here report to pay nearly $700 usd. Shit for that amount hire a blablacar. Between cities São Paulo and Rio or vice versa it about $100 reais to 200 reais per person, take your favorite Garota along for the ride. The GND types almost never have dinerho to travel. The top tier scandalo garotas can afford to fly back and forth whenever they want no omnibus or blablacar for them.
Now all the above is the easy part.
Using the friggin airlines mobile app to book the ticket is stupid difficult. I stick with brasilian airlines with apps easier to navigate to book and pay for flights. Sometimes flights are canceled or delayed because the incoming one is delayed, chuva in São Paulo. Use a local phone number to receive airline updates, and messages. Not all of the domestic airport and airline staff speak english, when you have some issues with them it can be a hassle to resolve without Portuguese conversation or finding a bilingual staff. Sometimes wish they would wear a pin on the label to indicate bilingual speaking airline counter staff.
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Dunno?
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2989798]I don't think the ones you have listed are from Scandallo because the charges on my CC for the last 3+ years were with a different name.
I will just say that Scandallo club charge on CC appears as a restaurant charge that doesn't identifying the club's name. The room charge appears as lodging again without identifying the name of the club.[/QUOTE]Dunno either how Scandallo is reported on your card. Please share. For my card there was Two ways I asked the cute receptioniist cashier gals what names appears? They said Matriz or Matrix. I always tell them the same stupid joke about entering the Matrix. In clinical Prime same deal ask Carol or the other gal what name they use for credit card "King tavern" . The a small sign is posted in Prime repeating the same. Also google search Matriz Scandallo comes up as the business and the name Matrix or Matriz is listed on my card.
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Card Charges
[QUOTE=Tochka;2989934]Dunno either how Scandallo is reported on your card. Please share. For my card there was Two ways I asked the cute receptioniist cashier gals what names appears? They said Matriz or Matrix. I always tell them the same stupid joke about entering the Matrix. In clinical Prime same deal ask Carol or the other gal what name they use for credit card "King tavern" . The a small sign is posted in Prime repeating the same. Also google search Matriz Scandallo comes up as the business and the name Matrix or Matriz is listed on my card.[/QUOTE]Here's how they appear on my card. Def scandallo is more discreet!
Scandallo. Matriz.
Scandallo Hotel. H M.
Casarao. Bhbaredanceteria.
Casarao Hotel. Smart Hotel Eireli.
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Discretion
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2989982]Here's how they appear on my card. Def scandallo is more discreet!
Scandallo. Matriz.
Scandallo Hotel. H M.
Casarao. Bhbaredanceteria.
Casarao Hotel. Smart Hotel Eireli.[/QUOTE]And yeah, like I noted in one report, Bahamas Club refers to condoms as "sobremesas" LMAO!
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2989982]Here's how they appear on my card. Def scandallo is more discreet!
Scandallo. Matriz.
Scandallo Hotel. H M.
Casarao. Bhbaredanceteria.
Casarao Hotel. Smart Hotel Eireli.[/QUOTE]Scandallo club charge showed up as "SCD" on my Amex & Visa cards whereas the Scandallo Hotel charge was with the same name. Are you and Tocha using Master or some other card by any chance to explain the difference?
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Interesting
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2989982]Here's how they appear on my card. Def scandallo is more discreet!
Scandallo. Matriz.
Scandallo Hotel. H M.
Casarao. Bhbaredanceteria.
Casarao Hotel. Smart Hotel Eireli.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Mine is a Mastercard. Debit card. But also checked my visa. And also Matriz and H M. Tho I def recall seeing SCD at some point. Either way I guess point is Scandallo is discreet. As we should expect from best club on the planet.
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[QUOTE=Lalabo;2990001]Scandallo club charge showed up as "SCD" on my Amex & Visa cards whereas the Scandallo Hotel charge was with the same name. Are you and Tocha using Master or some other card by any chance to explain the difference?[/QUOTE]I use MC and what Steve wrote is correct.
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Credit card machine 57 Friends
[QUOTE=KCK12;2989830]This is my report of the spot at 57 Friends and club at Moema near Congonhas airport. I entered on Friday 6 pm, very early. There was an old blonde lady at the reception which handles all the business there. No entrance fee was charged to me which I think was strange or it it's normal. They ask if you want to see the girls show to you. At this time there were around 9 girls. Most of them were between 22-29 with exceptions going to 35. All of them wore sexy dresses which I could see their tight young bodies. Fees ranged before 8 pm 1 hour 330 reais half hour 240. Rooms included in the service. Unfortunately I had ALOT of troubles with paying with CC. My credit card can't pass through their only point of sale which meant I either have cash or pix. Pix is impossible because of foreigner status. And here is where it comes the biggest SUPRISE FSpent some time playing 8 ball at the tables near. Sadly I couldn't chose the girl I wanted because she was already booked. My friend had to leave early for return so we exited the place with no action on my behalf. Late at night 4 to 8 women come to the club to work. Early there isn't a lot of talent. This concludes my journey in SP. I was there for just one day but wished I could experience going to Casarao or Scandallo and get a fine piece for the entire night. Next trip I will aim for this.[/QUOTE]That description is Julia at 57. Friends Chanes. She is a doll. Her birthday is coming up. The place is going to be rocking. She speaks very good English and is a good person too. Julia updates the 57 what's up photos to know which garota is on duty or expected to arrive. She is well regarded in gp-guia reports To get the Forista discount which is a good deal.
However, you are right the friggin credit card machine there suck raw eggs. Most places have two machines -this is normal.
They have many fvcking problems with that damn credit card scanner. My credit card works everywhere else except the machine in 57 Friends. And I carry a backup card. Didn't work either. She knows the card machine is quirky because I complained in gpguia reviews about the tap to pay, insert card and swipe card —nothing worked. By sheer coincidence one of my credit cards expired. I received a brand spanking new one, newly ordered, never used. That card worked. 🤷127997;8205;9794;65039;.
Scandal is open in the afternoon and evenings. It's Only 20 minutes Uber ride from 57 Friends to the best puta place on earth, Scandallo.
Several Brazilian porno queens show up in 57 Friends for after-work drinks & party. Threesome banging with two Brazilian porno garotas was early on my bucket list.
Those porno Garotas do the three-dicks anal stuff, weirdo toys going into all sorts of places, gagging slurping. I just want the credit card machine to work consistently.
Odd thing about so called brasilian porno queens after making a few big bucks doing a series of porno videos, some are back to slinging their "money maker" at São Paulo Clinica rates.
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[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2989808]The Asians you mentioned are portu speaking Japanese Brazilians or folks coming straight out of China? Very different groups.[/QUOTE]Local Portuguese speaking Asians, some Japanese and Chinese ethnicity. In SP, they come in group like a social gathering, maybe easier to tell the family they are hanging out with the guys. You also see them in other boates, scandallo. One thing I like about SP is that Asians blend into the local population, you are not treated as a foreigner until you open your mouth. Kkkkk.
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[QUOTE=Tochka;2990020]That description is Julia at 57. Friends Chanes. She is a doll. Her birthday is coming up. The place is going to be rocking. She speaks very good English and is a good person too. Julia updates the 57 what's up photos to know which garota is on duty or expected to arrive. She is well regarded in gp-guia reports To get the Forista discount which is a good deal.
However, you are right the friggin credit card machine there suck raw eggs. Most places have two machines -this is normal.
They have many fvcking problems with that damn credit card scanner. My credit card works everywhere else except the machine in 57 Friends. And I carry a backup card. Didn't work either. She knows the card machine is quirky because I complained in gpguia reviews about the tap to pay, insert card and swipe card nothing worked. By sheer coincidence one of my credit cards expired. I received a brand spanking new one, newly ordered, never used. That card worked. 🤷127997;8205;9794;65039;.
Scandal is open in the afternoon and evenings. It's Only 20 minutes Uber ride from 57 Friends to the best puta place on earth, Scandallo.
Several Brazilian porno queens show up in 57 Friends for after-work drinks & party. Threesome banging with two Brazilian porno garotas was early on my bucket list.
Those porno Garotas do the three-dicks anal stuff, weirdo toys going into all sorts of places, gagging slurping. I just want the credit card machine to work consistently.
Odd thing about so called brasilian porno queens after making a few big bucks doing a series of porno videos, some are back to slinging their "money maker" at So Paulo Clinica rates.[/QUOTE]Tochka thanks for the suggestions. How does one get the forista discount just by having a gpguia account and telling Julia at reception? From what I have read from various reports over here my next plan to SP was to go to Casarao and see if there was a Loira that wanted to stay overnight at my hotel / airbnb for 1000 reais. I do not know if the price is right. Scandallo entry fee is just 200 reais and from the reviews 1 hour or 2 hour fee ranges from 800 to 1800, so compared to Casarao it is a little bit pricier.
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ID document
ID and security.
I am standing with three women now at reception of Andar De Cima love motel are. Arajo, 224 - Centro Histrico de So Paulo, So Paulo. I'm with my brasilian girlfriend, a fucking hot blonde and cute ass morena we picked up along the way. We are going to wear out that morena!!hahah the reception is on the first floor. Take stairs or elevator up to reception. We were at to Love Cabaret next door to see the a cool sex circus show and then Tokio karaoke bar. At each place the garotas and I were ask to hand over their ID documents by security. They garotas gave the phones (cellular) with pictures of the CPF ID. I gave laminated copy of the passport page I carry around as ID. Never ever bring the real US passpor. The brothers at security and reception wouldn't let none of us in without producing an ID document. (shrug) the laminated page was a quick foto check. Some places are using facial recognition to enter office suites. In Andar de Clima the rooms are kinky as fuck with stripper pole. At tokio bar there was a huge long line wrapped around the block to get into tokio rooftop bar. We get a private karaoke suite to sing, dance, party and drink without having a crowd. The. Head over to andar de clima motel for a furious night of hot four way sex.
Dunno. Security was tight in each place we went. If yall have different experiences about showing ID at these place feel free to share.
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Any suggestions decent guest friendly hotels
Looking to stay at guest friendly hotel or Airbnb for at least a week in moema or vila Mariana. First time visit. Any recommendations?
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Forista discount
[QUOTE=KCK12;2990083]Tochka thanks for the suggestions. How does one get the forista discount just by having a gpguia account and telling Julia at reception? From what I have read from various reports over here my next plan to SP was to go to Casarao and see if there was a Loira that wanted to stay overnight at my hotel / airbnb for 1000 reais. I do not know if the price is right. Scandallo entry fee is just 200 reais and from the reviews 1 hour or 2 hour fee ranges from 800 to 1800, so compared to Casarao it is a little bit pricier.[/QUOTE]Many of the clinics in Moema offer a special discount if you write a report about your visit to the clinic in gpguia.
The site is in Portuguese you can google translate pages to read other guys' reviews of the place about popular garotas.
Pro-tip #1 when contributing a gpguia report always include a brief sentence about the receptionist as being helpful during your visit. Julia is 57 Friends, Carol and In Prime, Dorcas in Miruna, Moah Spa.
All of them are extremely avid readers of gpguia reports to check if you contributed to earning the forista discount or are bullshitters trying to score the discount. I usually tell them my "Nicky" nickname to find the most recent report. They light up seeing their name mentioned in the reports and are the ones to decide if you get the discount or not.
Pro-Tip #2 If you write a report for clinicas de massengen in gpguia there is a field that shows how much you should pay. Valor no tpico: are $ 240.00 you can know the price for an hour or if she does anal.
Protip #3 Casarao try before you buy. Casarao is setup nicely as a try before you buy place. I go for the 30 min 300 reais option with garotas to test run we are compatible and see her body full nude. Some garotas rules, don't touch my hair, don't CIM or deepthroat, others lack IoP or have unexpected "what the hell is that discloursation on her skin " she is hiding with tattos. Ahh oh fuvk I see that herpes pimple on her lips.
Nenem this session is over. I am bolting out of here.
Personally I salute you!! Dudes that go down, licking out, the community puta pussy.
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Ok, it is happening
Hey guys,
I'll be landing in GRU on March 21 and flying out on March 26. This is my first time in Brazil, and I'm debating whether I should stay in Sao Paulo the whole trip or squeeze in a quick round trip to Rio.
I'm open to just going all-in on Sao Paulo if it's got everything I need, but I don't want to regret skipping Rio if it's a must-see. What do you guys think? Or Save Rio for Next Time?
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Decisions, decisions!
[QUOTE=TattooedTuna;2990269]Hey guys,
I'll be landing in GRU on March 21 and flying out on March 26. This is my first time in Brazil, and I'm debating whether I should stay in Sao Paulo the whole trip or squeeze in a quick round trip to Rio.
I'm open to just going all-in on Sao Paulo if it's got everything I need, but I don't want to regret skipping Rio if it's a must-see. What do you guys think? Or Save Rio for Next Time?[/QUOTE]With that small amount of time pick one or the other. Next time stay longer so that you can properly do both.
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Budget hotel or Airbnb
I have the same question. I travel on a budget and wonder if someone can recomend a place to stay and not too far from the hunting playground.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2990142]Looking to stay at guest friendly hotel or Airbnb for at least a week in moema or vila Mariana. First time visit. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]
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Do both Rio and SP $75 USD
[QUOTE=TattooedTuna;2990269]Hey guys,
I'll be landing in GRU on March 21 and flying out on March 26. This is my first time in Brazil, and I'm debating whether I should stay in Sao Paulo the whole trip or squeeze in a quick round trip to Rio.
I'm open to just going all-in on Sao Paulo if it's got everything I need, but I don't want to regret skipping Rio if it's a must-see. What do you guys think? Or Save Rio for Next Time?[/QUOTE]Checkout the São Paulo hotel forum on places in Moema.
Someone ask about costs to fly from Sao Paulo (GRU or CGH) to Rio (GIG or SDU) or Rio to São Paulo.
I booked one way ticket from CGH to SDU Sao Paulo to Rio for $75 usd if booked couple of weeks in advance. The flight is less than one hour wheels up to wheels down. There are flights leaving every fifteen or twenty minutes on this direct route and its return.
Use Google Flights to find a good price point between these four airports. I book at least two weeks in advance to get the $75 usd or less deal. Most convenient from Moema to Centro is CGH to SDU. Pay extra for the option to change the same day flight time. Unexpectedly two curvy bunda, bleached blonde garotas, are on on their knees slurping away keeping me happy in Panda motel (Rio) or Colonial Palace (São Paulo) we are drinking whiskey, smoking marola, seu Jorge & Filipe Rey on blue tooth speaker, for a couple of hours. Dann going to miss the flight as these two blonde vixens ain't letting up any time soon.
Screw it, bring up the app —boom change the flight to a later departure time —bingo change to another later one. Until last flight out. One time going Rio to São Paulo I was in centro, at Dudas with a fresh newbie. Changed the flight six fucking times, and Panda motel in botofoga changed three times because she was a nonstop sex machine from Monte Carlo.
The same route jumps to $200 usd one way buying within one week or less. The Same route becomes very expensive for last minute booking. Some guy here report to pay nearly $700 usd. Shit for that amount hire a blablacar. Between cities São Paulo and Rio or vice versa it about $100 reais to 200 reais per person, take your favorite Garota along for the ride. The GND types almost never have dinerho to travel. The top tier scandalo garotas can afford to fly back and forth whenever they want no omnibus or blablacar for them.
Now all the above is the easy part.
Using the friggin airlines mobile app to book the ticket is stupid difficult. I stick with brasilian airlines with apps easier to navigate to book and pay for flights. Sometimes flights are canceled or delayed because the incoming one is delayed, chuva in São Paulo. Use a local phone number to receive airline updates, and messages. Not all of the domestic airport and airline staff speak english, when you have some issues with them it can be a hassle to resolve without Portuguese conversation or finding a bilingual staff. Sometimes wish they would wear a pin on the label to indicate bilingual speaking airline counter staff.
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[QUOTE=TattooedTuna;2990269]Hey guys,
I'll be landing in GRU on March 21 and flying out on March 26. This is my first time in Brazil, and I'm debating whether I should stay in Sao Paulo the whole trip or squeeze in a quick round trip to Rio.
I'm open to just going all-in on Sao Paulo if it's got everything I need, but I don't want to regret skipping Rio if it's a must-see. What do you guys think? Or Save Rio for Next Time?[/QUOTE]You can count nights and days separately. Rio is the most beautiful natural city of the South America. I would suggest don't leave GRU upon landing and fly into Rio for 2 nights. Spend day time in Rio for tourism. This way you do the nights of 21st and 22nd in Rio. Fly back on Sunday 23rd to Sampa. Your nights in Sampa will be 23 and 24 of March.
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Girls or Scenary
[QUOTE=TattooedTuna;2990269]Hey guys,
I'll be landing in GRU on March 21 and flying out on March 26. This is my first time in Brazil, and I'm debating whether I should stay in Sao Paulo the whole trip or squeeze in a quick round trip to Rio.
I'm open to just going all-in on Sao Paulo if it's got everything I need, but I don't want to regret skipping Rio if it's a must-see. What do you guys think? Or Save Rio for Next Time?[/QUOTE]That's not a ton of time. If the trip is primarily about girls and you have money then definitely don't leave SP. No point hassling w air travel for an inferior girls buffet. (No debate). But if you want to experience some of the beauty of Brazil then def get some Rio time. SP is indistinguishable from any large city. Rio is a spectacle with Sugar Loaf and Christ the Redeemer etc. So if tourism matters then do both.
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I am with Steve on this one. RJ has a lot of good things going for it, but 5 days is just not enough time to do justice to both towns. There is too much to see and do. In fact, 5 days is not enough time to cover SP. It is a big city with lots of places / bordellos / girls, & restaurants to check out. You are only going to get a taste in 5 days. So, stick to your original plan and be happy. Don't over think it. Just have a great time and if you like Brazilian girls, and I am sure you will, then come on back for a 2nd, 3rd & 4th helping. And next time you can start where you left off.
[QUOTE=TattooedTuna;2990269]Hey guys,
I'll be landing in GRU on March 21 and flying out on March 26. This is my first time in Brazil, and I'm debating whether I should stay in Sao Paulo the whole trip or squeeze in a quick round trip to Rio.
I'm open to just going all-in on Sao Paulo if it's got everything I need, but I don't want to regret skipping Rio if it's a must-see. What do you guys think? Or Save Rio for Next Time?[/QUOTE]
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Clinicas
Unfortunately, I won't be visiting any clinicas this trip. I had every intention to, but it just won't work out. I'm mainly a night owl monger, which means that I'm often out until the wee hours of the morning. And I'm finding that I just don't have the energy to run around to the clinicas in the daytime. And I've found that my sleeping pattern has changed. I can't seem to get any rest except between 8 am and Noon. I get up, throw some clothes on and have lunch. Then go do any errands like getting money or picking something up from the drugstore. Then I relax and sleep some more in the afternoon before heading out for the next night's fun! I'm really not a big clinica fan anyway. I don't like picking from a lineup or a tablet. For me social interaction with the girls is crucial for having the most fun, and the nightclub scene offers that. The best thing about the clinicas is the low price, but I have a budget that allows me to monger exclusively and comfortably within the "night league". And so it is.
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An Air Travel Tip or Two
[QUOTE=Tochka;2990280]Someone ask about costs to fly from Sao Paulo (GRU or CGH) to Rio (GIG or SDU) or Rio to So Paulo.
I booked one way ticket from CGH to SDU Sao Paulo to Rio for $75 usd if booked couple of weeks in advance. The flight is less than one hour wheels up to wheels down. There are flights leaving every fifteen or twenty minutes on this direct route and its return.
Use Google Flights to find a good price point between these four airports. [/QUOTE]All good points Tochka. But here is something else to consider and that is the total travel time from your SP hotel to your RJ hotel which is between 4 or 4 1/2 hours counting flight time as wells as uber time from and to your hotel, airport wait time & hotel check in / check out time. In addition, add another 4 1/2 hours for the return flight to SP. IMHO this is too much wasted time for short visits to Brazil. It just does not work for me.
And here is a tip on what one can do if you have 2 weeks or more to spend in Brazil and want to do both towns: book a multi city international flight trip instead of an international round trip. For example, an American Airlines "multi city" flight from MIA to GRU // GIG to MIA costs no more than the AA round trip from MIA to GRU. Just do not include the domestic CGH to SDU flight in your multi city itinerary because if you do AA will charge you a couple hundred bucks for it. Book domestic air travel separately as you suggest and fly the CGH. SDU route.
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Roll w It
[QUOTE=TheCane;2990397]Unfortunately, I won't be visiting any clinicas this trip. I had every intention to, but it just won't work out. I'm mainly a night owl monger, which means that I'm often out until the wee hours of the morning. And I'm finding that I just don't have the energy to run around to the clinicas in the daytime. And I've found that my sleeping pattern has changed. I can't seem to get any rest except between 8 am and Noon. I get up, throw some clothes on and have lunch. Then go do any errands like getting money or picking something up from the drugstore. Then I relax and sleep some more in the afternoon before heading out for the next night's fun! I'm really not a big clinica fan anyway. I don't like picking from a lineup or a tablet. For me social interaction with the girls is crucial for having the most fun, and the nightclub scene offers that. The best thing about the clinicas is the low price, but I have a budget that allows me to monger exclusively and comfortably within the "night league". And so it is.[/QUOTE]You are totally doing it like I do. Stay out till the wee hours and sleep till noon like you did on summer break in college! Make total use of the night which is the best time.
Last time in Rio I finished with my last girl at 6:10 AM and walked right into the breakfast buffet! This is how to roll.
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Wingman
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2990425]You are totally doing it like I do. Stay out till the wee hours and sleep till noon like you did on summer break in college! Make total use of the night which is the best time.
Last time in Rio I finished with my last girl at 6:10 AM and walked right into the breakfast buffet! This is how to roll.[/QUOTE]Actually Steve, I always thought you would be a great wingman. We like to go to the same kinds of places to monger, but we don't like the same kinds of girls. So, we wouldn't be perving on and wanting to fuck the same ones. You would be leaving the "pastey" brancas to me LMAO!
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Can't wait!
Thanks for the warm replies, gents! I've decided to put a pin on the Rio round trip for now and just go with the flow—weather and all. I'm really excited for this trip, and I'll be sharing my updates as I go. It feels like forever since my last monger trip to China in July 2024, so I'm definitely looking forward to it.
For money, I'm thinking of taking $1,000 in cash with me and withdrawing more from ATMs as I need it. I'll also try to use my credit card as much as possible, unless there's a fee, of course. Can't wait to share how it all goes!
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Blowjob to blowjob flight time
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2990418]All good points Tochka. But here is something else to consider and that is the total travel time from your SP hotel to your RJ hotel which is between 4 or 4 1/2 hours counting flight time as well as Uber time from and to your hotel, airport wait time & hotel check-in / check-out time. In addition, add another 4 1/2 hours for the return flight to SP. In my opinion, this is too much wasted time for short visits to Brazil. It just does not work for me.
And here is a tip on what one can do if you have 2 weeks or more to spend in Brazil and want to do both towns: book a multi-city international flight trip instead of an international round trip. For example, an American Airlines "multi-city" flight from MIA to GRU // GIG to MIA costs no more than the AA round trip from MIA to GRU. Just do not include the domestic CGH to SDU flight in your multi-city itinerary because if you do AA will charge you a couple hundred bucks for it. Book domestic air travel separately as you suggest and fly the CGH. SDU route.[/QUOTE]You make an excellent point. Guys travelling you definitely should consider these important Pro tips Axel is providing.
The way I count travel time from So Paulo to Rio or Rio to So Paulo is blowjob to blowjob travel time. At 1 pm I get a deep sloppy BJ in Clinica Prime from Nadia or Karen (both are cum swallowers) after the leche pops at 1. 55 pm. I grab an Uber for a 10-15 min ride to CGH. QR code and check-in by phone, so go directly to security and boarding gate. Less busy time early afternoon. The flight leaves at 3 pm, and my group boards at 2. 30 pm. Take off at 3 pm, and land at SDU at 3. 55 pm. Taxi on runway 10 min, doors open. Crap got to take a stupid bus to the terminal. At 4. 15 p or 4. 30 pm SDU head directly to Uber pickup. Wow, nice views in Rio. Uber X from SDU to Centro about 15 to 20 minutes. Walk to building 155 with Dudas Spa, Bel Prazer, Darkroom different spas in Centro before they close. Grab 2500 at Bradesco.
Schedule Pepe or Alexis for 5 pm by 5. 10 pm both of them are continuing from Karen & Nadai deep massage blowjob, with a CIM shared by both. Around 7 pm uber to Monte Carlo, bangaway with threesome until midnight or shift to Soloraium or Carribean / NY. Take two MC garotas or hot soloario garotas to Panda motel in Botafogo presidential suite for all night sex fueled swim, marola, orgy, drinking & party. Wake up 0800 am, uber from.
Panda to SDU arrive by 0830 am, gonstraight to security on second floor SDU, board 0930 am flight SDU to CGH. At 11 am wassap message clinicas to setup noon or 1 pm threesomes.
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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2990293]I am with Steve on this one. RJ has a lot of good things going for it, but 5 days is just not enough time to do justice to both towns. There is too much to see and do. In fact, 5 days is not enough time to cover SP. It is a big city with lots of places / bordellos / girls, & restaurants to check out. You are only going to get a taste in 5 days. So, stick to your original plan and be happy. Don't over think it. Just have a great time and if you like Brazilian girls, and I am sure you will, then come on back for a 2nd, 3rd & 4th helping. And next time you can start where you left off.[/QUOTE]5 days is not enough to do justice to either one of them. Going to Brasil for just 5 days seems ridiculous (unless you live in Argentina or Uruguay). I hope he can at least sleep on the flights each way.
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Metro card
Does anyone know if it's possible for a foreigner to get the cartao fidelidade for the Metro in SP without having CPF. My hotel is in Guarulhos which is way too far to take cheap Ubers. I would like to take the metro. They sell separate tickets but I want a card for future visits.
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Can't Wait!
Thanks for all the warm responses, gents! I'll be saving Rio for another time. Super pumped for this trip—it's been a while since my last one to China in July 2024. I'll be posting updates as I go. My plan is to bring $1,000 in cash, withdraw more if needed, and use my credit card as much as possible unless there's a fee. Any input is greatly appreciated!
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I know haha
[QUOTE=Combo;2990535]5 days is not enough to do justice to either one of them. Going to Brasil for just 5 days seems ridiculous (unless you live in Argentina or Uruguay). I hope he can at least sleep on the flights each way.[/QUOTE]I know, but this is the best I can do for nowtoo much weighing me down at the moment. At least I'll get a taste of Brazil so I can plan a longer, more prepared trip next time. Luckily, I scored in & out redeye biz class tickets with my miles, so I should be able to catch some rest on the way! Can't wait.
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Brazil WhatsApp Extortion Scam
Just looking for some feedback from ISG. The local gp guide has an active blog regarding WhatsApp extortions. Punters are reaching out to girls on escort sites like [URL]fatalmodel.com[/URL] and [URL]photoacompanhantes.com[/URL] and are then being contacted by goons claiming they did not honor a meeting or wasted a girls time without compensation. These goons leave threatening messages by text and voice and are somehow able to identify the punter by real name and occasionally home address, work address, family members or similar. They demand payment of perhaps a few hundred dollars. Most of the locals just block these call back numbers, but others have paid as they are terrified that their relatives will find out they are soliciting prostitutes.
Here are my questions: (a) have any of you foreigners visiting SP been extorted in this way through WhatsApp? (b) does anyone here use WhatsApp to contact the girls? While I realize there may be some girls on these sites who work in a prive or may be a bit of bait-and-switch, I am sure some ads are genuine. Some of the girls are appealing. (c) A lot of the clinics use WhatsApp to display their daily girls and allow punters to make an appointment. It seems WhatsApp is pretty valuable to a tourist. (d) Getting a SIM card in Brazil seems impossible without a CPF number (a local social security number). How do tourists without a CPF use phones? I absolutely want to avoid using my personal phone in Brazil. (e) any work-arounds that would keep me anonymous? A lot of the international cell plans (for a burner phone) lack call and SMS / text options.
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[QUOTE=KCK12;2990546]Does anyone know if it's possible for a foreigner to get the cartao fidelidade for the Metro in SP without having CPF. My hotel is in Guarulhos which is way too far to take cheap Ubers. I would like to take the metro. They sell separate tickets but I want a card for future visits.[/QUOTE]You only need CPF to get the card for metro but it may take some effort. The alternative method is to buy many single tickets at once.
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[QUOTE=Ak233;2990555]How do tourists without a CPF use phones?[/QUOTE]You only need passport to get a SIM card under your name. It's not that difficult and been mentioned many times and I have repeated many times as well. Many just get a burner SIM and the scammer won't be able to find your identity. It is also not difficult once you know how. Look up VB1 posts to find out how.
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[QUOTE=TattooedTuna;2990551]I know, but this is the best I can do for nowtoo much weighing me down at the moment. At least I'll get a taste of Brazil so I can plan a longer, more prepared trip next time. Luckily, I scored in & out redeye biz class tickets with my miles, so I should be able to catch some rest on the way! Can't wait.[/QUOTE]You can consider getting an open-jaw ticket by returning to your home country from Rio. Then it is very doable with short amount of time.
BTW, the visa fee is about 80 USD, not 40 as you indicated
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2990566]You can consider getting an open-jaw ticket by returning to your home country from Rio. Then it is very doable with short amount of time.
BTW, the visa fee is about 80 USD, not 40 as you indicated[/QUOTE]I was considering that, but I was limited by the availability of reward tickets and could only book in and out of São Paulo. Appreciate the correction on the visa fee, good to know! Thanks so much!
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Change of Plan, LOL
I managed to extend my Brazil trip by one more day! I was able to change my flight to depart tomorrow and now I'll be arriving on 3/20. The only dilemma is that my Amazon orders—like a sling bag, power adapter, etc. —won't arrive in time. I'm debating whether I should grab these in the USA Before leaving or if they'll be easy to find in São Paulo. I'll be staying in Moema—any recommendations on where to pick up essentials like these?
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20 pages of reports consolidated for my trip. Need help with a gut check
I went back 20 pages reading all the posts and tried to make a consolidated reference doc. I will be in SP for about 7 days and have zero experience there (though I have 15 ish in FKK, CR, DR, MDE, and other latic countries). No clue why I have never been to Brazil yet, but I'm going to set up a week long trip.
To be clear, thanks to everyone else do did all the hard work here, I just worked to consolidate it for trip. At any rate, can anyone gut check this and tell me if my numbers / lists look right?
A few points I was unclear on was the pricing in the clinicas and whether my numbers are "all-in" or if there are 2 separate fees in some cases (like the clinica, you pay the girl and then the location, which means the all in is higher).
Also, I do understand there seems to be a trade-off between spots close to the clinicas (having noise and lower prices) vs more expensive hotels that are quieter. I am a light sleeper, but I also am not a fan of spending 45 minutes in a taxi to visit a massage place.
My ideal trip is maybe 1 massage place per day and then 3-5 nights to experience each of the night clubs in the list:
[B]So Paulo[/B]
# 1. Accommodation.
# Hotels.
- [B]Bourbon So Paulo Ibirapuera Convention Hotel / Wyndham So Paulo Ibirapuera Convention Plaza Hotel[/B]:
- Location: Moema district, near Ibirapuera Shopping Mall and Congonhas Airport (CGH).
- Rooms: 600-672 soundproof rooms with free WiFi, air conditioning, cable TV, electronic safe, and mini-bar.
- Amenities: Indoor swimming pool, fitness center, steam room, sauna, business center, 16 event venues.
- Dining: Multiple options including Fenix Bar, Ipe lobby bar, and Igueira restaurant.
- Price Range: From are $265 (USD $48) per night.
- Additional Features: 24-hour front desk, room service, parking (self and valet), express check-in / out.
- [B]DoubleTree by Hilton So Paulo Itaim[/B]:
- Location: Itaim Bibi, known for its vibrant dining scene.
- Rooms: Spacious and modern, some may feel cramped.
- Features: Excellent breakfast service, quiet environment.
- Internet: Requires frequent re-registration.
- Price Range: are $425-are $640 (USD $77-USD $116) per night.
- [B]Mercure So Paulo Alamedas[/B]:
- Location: Near Avenida Paulista.
- Issues: Construction noise reported, weak WiFi signal.
- Price Range: are $500-are $750 (USD $91-USD $136) per night.
- [B]Grand Mercure So Paulo Itaim[/B]:
- Location: Itaim Bibi.
- Issues: Severe construction noise reported, weak WiFi signal.
- Price Range: are $500-are $750 (USD $91-USD $136) per night.
# Condo Hotel.
- [B]Allure Moema[/B]:
- Address: Av. Dos Imars, 508, Moema.
- Features: Modern studio apartments, double-paned glass, modern appliances.
- Price: are $300 (USD $55) per night.
- Proximity: 4-minute walk to clinics like Prime, Miruna, and Abbobhrs; 7-minute Uber to Congonhas Airport (CGH).
- Amenities: Beach tennis court, party hall, swimming pool, gym, 24-hour bilingual reception.
# Airbnb.
- Price Range: are $150-are $225 (USD $27-USD $41) per night for studios.
- Tip: Email hosts to confirm soundproofing features.
# 2. Entertainment & Activities.
# Nightlife & Bars (Boates).
- [B]Scandallo Lounge[/B]:
- Address:
- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/A659oQmcR3u3K6G57[/URL].
- Hours: Open daily from noon to early morning (Monday 12 pm-4 am, Tuesday-Friday 12 pm-5 am, Saturday 12 pm-4 am).
- Entry Fee: are $200 (USD $36) for men (includes are $100 for drinks), are $50 (USD $9) for women.
- Session Fee: are $900-1000 (USD $164-USD $182) for 1 hour.
- Best Days: Tuesday to Thursday.
- Tips: Arrive before 7 PM to avoid cover charge, dress to impress.
- [B]Casaro Augusta[/B]:
- Address:
- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/eZ2fKzXcH3Q6Wog17[/URL].
- Hours: Opens and closes late, good every day except Sunday and Monday.
- Entry Fee: are $10 (USD $1. 80), includes two drinks.
- Drink Prices: are $15 (USD $2. 70) for you, are $30-are $50 (USD $5. 45-USD $9. 10) for companions.
- Pricing: are $425 (USD $77) for 1 hour, are $300-are $400 (USD $55-USD $73) for 30 minutes, often negotiable to are $300 (USD $55).
- [B]57 House Friends Club[/B]:
- Address:
- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/2H27zcsvHGnJW9KCA[/URL].
- Hours: Open from 12 PM to late evening.
- Entry: No entrance fee reported during an early Friday visit.
- Talent: Around 9 girls present at 6 PM, mostly 22-29 years old, some up to 35.
- Pricing: are $250-330 (USD $45-USD $60) for 1 hour, are $240 (USD $44) for half an hour before 8 PM (rooms included).
# 3. Massage Locations (Clinicas).
# High-End Options.
- [B]Sharon Premium[/B]:
- Easy website booking via WhatsApp.
- Opens early (around 10 AM or 11 AM).
- [B]Baronesas[/B]:
- Website available, WhatsApp booking.
- Early opening hours (around 10 AM or 11 AM).
- [B]Taj Mahal[/B]:
- Website browsing and WhatsApp booking available.
- [B]Lotus Lounge[/B]:
- Online presence with easy booking process.
- [B]The Palms[/B]:
- Limited online information.
- Visit in person when they open (around 12 PM).
- Pricing: are $700-are $800 (USD $127-USD $145) for session, additional are $400 (USD $73) to the girl.
- [B]Oro[/B]:
- Minimal online presence.
- Visit at opening time (around 12 PM).
# Mid-Tier Options.
- [B]Anavrin[/B]:
- Price similar to Prime.
- Excellent website with easy advance booking.
- Opens at 9 AM on Saturdays.
- Classic wood floor apartment vibe.
- [B]Prime Massagem[/B]:
- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/itbPvuvg259GT4rg9[/URL].
- [B]Miruna[/B]:
- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/4sxBrVP621ShFyf68[/URL] (Not Maruna).
- [B]Abbbora[/B]:
- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/n55rLKJLTS7ZCm7cA[/URL].
- [B]Tangara[/B].
# 4. Transportation.
- Metro: are $4. 40 (USD $0. 80) per ride, not 24/7.
- Uber: Recommended for nightlife venues.
# 5. Safety & Tips.
- Be cautious of pickpockets in public transport and areas like Rua Augusta.
- Use ATMs inside banks to avoid skimming fraud.
- WhatsApp is commonly used for bookings at massage spots and private clubs.
- Tipping (optional):
- Bartenders / Waiters: are $5 (USD $0. 90) to are $20 (USD $3. 65).
- Hotel Staff: are $10 (USD $1. 80) to are $20 (USD $3. 65).
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Strategy on a budget?
[QUOTE=TheCane;2989668]That's a great strategy Tochka! I'm an early bird guy and don't like to wait until late to see who is on the stroll. So, you're saying it's OK to actually hang around on the hotel side without having to pay anything to be in there? If that's true then I would definitely do that and go after the ones I like before they even hit the main stroll! I wouldn't care about "losing the illusion" either. It would be a turn on for me actually to see the "girl next door" turn herself into an "anal hoor"![/QUOTE]Hi everyone,
So I will arrive to SP this Saturday in the afternoon, I live on Wednesday morning. However it is a work trip, so I will not have much free time and I'm on a budget. My guess is that I will only have Saturday night and Sunday afternoon / night for some fun.
From reading some of the posts here, I'm thinking I should check out Scandallo, Casarao or 57 friends (probably only one of them, on Saturday night), then I'm thinking a CLínica or finding someone to come to my hotel on Sunday. So my questions are:
1) what do you think of this plan? Any other thing I should consider?
2) Since I'm on a budget, if I decide to go to scandallo, I would need to go early (I believe there is no entrance fee if arrive before a particular time, correct?) If so what time should I arrive there? What about Casarao and 57 friends, thinking I might only be able to go to one. I'm curious about scandallo early, even if it is for to see the ladies as price seems high. Then go to Casarao for some action. Thoughts?
3) Any tips on CLínicas or places to find someone that can come to my hotel or that I can go to her place?
4) Has anyone used PaySend to pay directly to Pix? I researched and it says it works to make pix payments.
5) If I only have Us Dollars, what is the exchange rate of dealing directly with the ladies?
Thanks a lot and if anyone is in SP this weekend let me know!
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Clinicas, spas, within walking distants of each other
A week away from my flight. Can someone give me the names of clinicas, spa within walking distance of each other. Vila Olympia, vila Mariana, and moema? Or any other places in addition to.
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[QUOTE=MikeKelimir;2990810]A few points I was unclear on was the pricing in the clinicas[/QUOTE]Most numbers mentioned here are all-in but you may need to pay the girl separately in more expensive places. There is no free entry at Scandallo. You got too many numbers wrong for me to correct them.
57 is just a clinica by day and boate by night. It is owned by the same group that owns several other clinicas nearby. It does have a very friendly English speaking manager Julie. Besides that, there is nothing special about it. You get similar daytime setup at Tagara and Yankins.
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Accommodation options
Hi there.
Currently planning my first trip to Sao Paulo for June. Deciding between Mercure Moema Times Square and an Airbnb. The Airbnb is near to the Museo do Futebol further north in the city.
If I book the best room class at this hotel or I book Airbnb, price is pretty much the same. But the Airbnb is significantly nicer at least on photos. Would welcome any views on location plus Airbnb vs hotel. Normally I generally go Airbnb in other cities but I know security with guests is very high in some condos. The host has confirmed they allow 1 guest but not sure how much of a nightmare it will be trying to check in a drunk bar girl past an overzealous condo security at 3 am.
My plan is 1 x per night at one of the boates and a clinica visit each day. I prefer overnight sessions from the clubs rather than onsite. Aside from that, good restaurants is a priority.
Thanks in advance!
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Girl Friendly Airbnb
Ola bom DIA, can anyone recommend a nice airbnb in the Moema area? One where there will not be any problems bring back ladies.
Any recommendations will be appreciated. I ususlly sat in hotels but I would like to try an airbnb.
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Ibirupuera Shopping
[QUOTE=TattooedTuna;2990764]I managed to extend my Brazil trip by one more day! I was able to change my flight to depart tomorrow and now I'll be arriving on 3/20. The only dilemma is that my Amazon orderslike a sling bag, power adapter, etc. won't arrive in time. I'm debating whether I should grab these in the USA Before leaving or if they'll be easy to find in So Paulo. I'll be staying in Moema. Any recommendations on where to pick up essentials like these?[/QUOTE]You can try the Ibirupuera Shopping Center in Moema.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2990900]Most numbers mentioned here are all-in but you may need to pay the girl separately in more expensive places. There is no free entry at Scandallo. You got too many numbers wrong for me to correct them.
[/QUOTE]I will make one correction:
[QUOTE=MikeKelimir;2990810]
# 3. Massage Locations (Clinicas).
# High-End Options.
- [B]The Palms[/B]:
- Limited online information.
- Visit in person when they open (around 12 PM).
- Pricing: are $700-are $800 (USD $127-USD $145) for session, additional are $400 (USD $73) to the girl.
[/QUOTE]350 BR paid directly to the girl after the session / 400 BR (it might be 450 BR now) to the house before you leave. CC's are accepted at the front desk.
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A tip for newbies.
Clinicas and major boates are pretty straight forward with their pricings. I have never seen gringo pricing, you pay what the locals pay. Clinicas are fixed prices. Girls in the boates may have a high initial ask and you just have negotiate down to the standard range. All prices in Brazil are in Brazilian Reales. I have never used USD $ cash to pay girls or establishments. I'm not saying you can't, but it's not commonly done. I remember a recent report that 57 friends accepted USD.
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Welcomed security
[QUOTE=DonKey82;2990930]Hi there.
Currently planning my first trip to Sao Paulo for June. Deciding between Mercure Moema Times Square and an Airbnb. The Airbnb is near to the Museo do Futebol further north in the city.
If I book the best room class at this hotel or I book Airbnb, price is pretty much the same. But the Airbnb is significantly nicer at least on photos. Would welcome any views on location plus Airbnb vs hotel. Normally I generally go Airbnb in other cities but I know security with guests is very high in some condos. The host has confirmed they allow 1 guest but not sure how much of a nightmare it will be trying to check in a drunk bar girl past an overzealous condo security at 3 am.
My plan is 1 x per night at one of the boates and a clinica visit each day. I prefer overnight sessions from the clubs rather than onsite. Aside from that, good restaurants is a priority.
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]High security in condos are welcomed by the girls. Most online girls will only go to condos with security. Receptions where visitors have to submit ID, even photos and fingerprints, biometric facial scans are the norm in SP. Girls expect that and it is a sign of the quality of the condo building. The reception are employed by the condo owners, the staff tend to be very pleasant and helpful in my experience.
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While I mostly prefer to meet girls in person for no surprises, I'm still curious. What website or app is best for calling a girl from online over to my place? High or medium-end women only. If it's a women I never met, I prefer she be from a reputable website or that she has reviews / online presence.
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Scandallo confirmations
From the reports I have heard entryr is free before 7 pm. Also free meal before 7 pm. Finally after 7 pm is entry free, 200,400 or 500. It's been numerous quotes. Is there a good crowd of women before 7 pm, throughout the day, or basically majority comes after 11 pm.
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Love this report
Facial recognition thingie was freaking me out. I was wondering if it was just a deterrent, helps to be more expansive looking for airbnb. Thanks so much.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2991147]High security in condos are welcomed by the girls. Most online girls will only go to condos with security. Receptions where visitors have to submit ID, even photos and fingerprints, biometric facial scans are the norm in SP. Girls expect that and it is a sign of the quality of the condo building. The reception are employed by the condo owners, the staff tend to be very pleasant and helpful in my experience.[/QUOTE]
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Love this report
Smart man. Definitely will follow your approach. The overcharge reminds me of Colombia bar rooms when they knock on your room door 15 minutes before your time is up, but claim you used up your time. Its a planned scam.
[QUOTE=Tribute15;2986174]Scandallo:
After my fun time at Casarao, I decided to go to Scandallo on Saturday. I have mixed feelings about Scandallo regarding the pricing. I find it too high and not value for money and I was proven right. The setting is fantastic and you have tonnes of girls, but 1000- 1500 reals for 1 HR. That's insane. I can a high end escort, who would come over to my hotel for half that price. You are already paying a Scandallo tax to any girl in there, whether pretty or ugly. I even saw a midget there once and she wanted 700 reals, can you believe that. Also too many girls and in a very large area makes it difficult to zone in on the hotties at a particular time versus if there weren't so much and in a smaller area. You might be at Scandallo for hours and might not see 30% of girls available. Some are in the restaurant, some in the bar area, some in the band area, some upstairs, and some occupied there are so many places they could be. It takes luck and a lot of work to get the right one. Each has its merit. But it doesn't favour the punters for me. It's like being at an all you can resort and there for a limited time.
Arrived around 10 Pm and paid the cover charge. Walked in and it crowded. There was a band playing and that area was full. The bar area was also full and people seating in the outside patio. Went to the restaurant and had dinner. On my way in I saw a white girl with a phat ass, that ass was a donkey. I hadn't seen that in a long time. I then saw her on my out of the restaurant and called her over. Started chatting and asked her name and where she was from. Maria from Sao Paulo. Asked where she got that bunda from and she laughed and said guys always asked her that question. Asked her if she was complete and she replied yes. Asked price and she said 1100 reals and I replied that's gringo price. I countered 700 and finally we agreed on 800 reals. Vamos I said, We went upstairs and I paid for 1 h.
We got to the room and off to the shower and she spent about five minutes there and I felt that's too long. Had to go see what was going on. She came to the bed and we got going. DFK, then kisses all over my body, BBBJ, balls sucking andll. She was very sensual. The sex was great. Started at CG, RCG, missionary. After missionary, told her it was time for anal, to poke that cuzinha. She got the gel out and tried to get in doggystyle and it wouldn't go in. Tried it in missionary, flat doggy all the same. It wouldn't just go in, my main of banging that bunda in anal was defeated. It was frustrating. We went back to doggystyle and finished off. We both showered and went back to make payment and I got the shocker of my life. I was charged 485 reals for the room, I asked why there was an extra 185 reals and was told it was for the extra time in the room. I was like it's 1 HR and there was no phone call or notification to that effect. They replied its not there business to notify anyone, that's its up to the client to stick to time. So I was charged for every extra minute. Unfortunately I didn't check the time when I got into room, but I knew that I didn't spend more than an hour. I insisted a manger be called and after some back and forth it was reduced to 450 reals. I paid and left, but it left a very sour taste in my mouth.
I went back downstairs and the party was in full swing. The numbers were up and looking good. There were a lot of mulatta's in the club. I walked around now to enjoy the view, since there was no pressure on me, after just shooting a load. Moved around and chatted, while collecting number. Whenever they asked me to session, I would tell them I just sessioned, but they could come the next day to my hotel. Got numbers from 3 stunners. One was a lawyer from Salvador Bahia who just started practicing. A funny incident happened, while I was chatting to one of the girls and was telling her I just shoot a load and needed to rest, the girl I just sessioned with passed by and I grabbed her and she smiled and told the other girl we just sessioned and she better makes sure she goes with me.
My plan was to get some numbers for take out, as I felt the rates at Scandallo was crazy. The following day I stated chatting the chicas and I started getting some crazy rates. 1500-2000 reals. I was like hell no. 2 of the chicas came down to 1200 reals, but wasn't good enough. One of the girls called Thianna later buzzed me around 5 pm saying she could come for 800 reals, I smiled and didn't reply. At 6:30 pm I countered with 500 reals, she asked I add something and we agreed for 600 reals. She came 1 hour and half later and boy was it a wild session. She was a firecracker and very crazy. I had to end the session after 1 HR 30 minutes, because I had a flight to catch. I finally got my score and model for Scandallo. Get numbers and meet them outside the club.[/QUOTE].
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[QUOTE=Blakman;2991307]From the reports I have heard entryr is free before 7 pm. .... It's been numerous quotes. [/QUOTE]If I were you, I would only put weight on people that have been to Scandallo and said it is free before 7 PM. I like to see you show me one quote from those.
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Yes and no.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2991307]From the reports I have heard entryr is free before 7 pm. Also free meal before 7 pm. Finally after 7 pm is entry free, 200,400 or 500. It's been numerous quotes. Is there a good crowd of women before 7 pm, throughout the day, or basically majority comes after 11 pm.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. I think you need to read the reports again. Scandallo entry is R300 before 7 p. The 300 is all consumption. Some guys justify this cost by using it to pay for their "free dinner". You still have to pay 300 even if you don't drink or eat 300. After 7 p, it's R500 of which 300 is consumption and 200 is a cover charge. Of note, there are special event days when the entry can randomly increase by R200-300 if a famous band you never heard of plays. You only live once so enjoy.
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[QUOTE=Blakman;2991307]From the reports I have heard entryr is free before 7 pm. Also free meal before 7 pm. Finally after 7 pm is entry free, 200,400 or 500. It's been numerous quotes. Is there a good crowd of women before 7 pm, throughout the day, or basically majority comes after 11 pm.[/QUOTE]You either misread or misunderstood what others have posted.
Prices are listed in Brazilian Reals.
There is ALWAYS a MINIMUM Consumption of $300, regardless of when you go. Consumption might not be a term used in US. So call it a $300 minimum spend, whether it's food, drinks or tobacco products. If you spend less than $300, you are still charged $300.
This minimum consumption doesn't apply to what you pay the girls or the hotel fee or exit / takeout / Saida fee.
After 7:00 pm, there is a $200 cover charge, which you get nothing for.
Well, I wouldn't call it nothing. As it can save you time and be more flexible with your schedule. You can choose to arrive later at night when most of the girls are in attendance and the place is rocking, instead of arriving early and spend a few hours waiting for the place to fill up.
If you arrive before 7 pm, you can leave and return later without having to pay the $200 cover on your return later. But your initial minimum consumption doesn't carry over. Here is an example timeline:
You arrive at 4 or 5 pm and have some afternoon fun.
You decide to leave at 7 pm to meet friends for dinner.
You ALWAYS Have to close out your tab when you leave. You pay the $300 for your consumption.
You return at 10 pm. There is no $200 cover.
You leave at 1 am. You pay for whatever you consume in terms of food, drinks and tobacco products.
So to recap..
Before 7pm = $300 minimum consumption.
After 7pm = $300 minimum consumption+ $200 cover charge for a total of $500.
As to the free food / buffet. I have seen big buffet trays / stations on a few occasions during the late afternoon / early evenings. I have not tried it out so don't know much about it.
There are about 30-50 girls during the afternoon. Between 6-9pm, most of the girls arrive and swell the numbers to 150-200 depending on the day. After 9pm, another 50 or so girls come in. Also take into account the afternoon girls leave between 8 to 10pm
So between 7 to 9/10pm you will see most of the girls from both day and night shifts.
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Love this report
Brilliantly written. No misreading or misinterpreting this report. Definitely can put weight on it. Scandallo fully clarified. Thank you.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2991480]You either misread or misunderstood what others have posted.
Prices are listed in Brazilian Reals.
There is ALWAYS a MINIMUM Consumption of $300, regardless of when you go. Consumption might not be a term used in US. So call it a $300 minimum spend, whether it's food, drinks or tobacco products. If you spend less than $300, you are still charged $300.
This minimum consumption doesn't apply to what you pay the girls or the hotel fee or exit / takeout / Saida fee.
After 7:00 pm, there is a $200 cover charge, which you get nothing for.
Well, I wouldn't call it nothing. As it can save you time and be more flexible with your schedule. You can choose to arrive later at night when most of the girls are in attendance and the place is rocking, instead of arriving early and spend a few hours waiting for the place to fill up.
If you arrive before 7 pm, you can leave and return later without having to pay the $200 cover on your return later. But your initial minimum consumption doesn't carry over. Here is an example timeline:
You arrive at 4 or 5 pm and have some afternoon fun.
You decide to leave at 7 pm to meet friends for dinner.
You ALWAYS Have to close out your tab when you leave. You pay the $300 for your consumption.
You return at 10 pm. There is no $200 cover.
You leave at 1 am. You pay for whatever you consume in terms of food, drinks and tobacco products.
So to recap..
Before 7pm = $300 minimum consumption.
After 7pm = $300 minimum consumption+ $200 cover charge for a total of $500.
As to the free food / buffet. I have seen big buffet trays / stations on a few occasions during the late afternoon / early evenings. I have not tried it out so don't know much about it.
There are about 30-50 girls during the afternoon. Between 6-9pm, most of the girls arrive and swell the numbers to 150-200 depending on the day. After 9pm, another 50 or so girls come in. Also take into account the afternoon girls leave between 8 to 10pm
So between 7 to 9/10pm you will see most of the girls from both day and night shifts.[/QUOTE].
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You only live once seems to be the only sane justification
Well theres another justificationr. In the united states a party can cost 40 to 60 usa dollars with most likely only 10 percent being attractive women. Have done that quite a few times so scandallo here I come.
Go once and collect as many numbers possible LOL.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2991434]Hahaha. I think you need to read the reports again. Scandallo entry is R300 before 7 p. The 300 is all consumption. Some guys justify this cost by using it to pay for their "free dinner". You still have to pay 300 even if you don't drink or eat 300. After 7 p, it's R500 of which 300 is consumption and 200 is a cover charge. Of note, there are special event days when the entry can randomly increase by R200-300 if a famous band you never heard of plays. You only live once so enjoy.[/QUOTE].
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Airport ride into moema / changing us currency advice
Taxi, uber from airport to moema? If taxi then what is the cost. Where should I exchange currency?
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Scandallo male to female interaction
Are the women in the club handsy, hands on, physically naughty, flirtatious when interacting in the club. Any club rules to abide by?
[QUOTE=Blakman;2991495]Brilliantly written. No misreading or misinterpreting this report. Definitely can put weight on it. Scandallo fully clarified. Thank you.
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[QUOTE=Blakman;2991610]Are the women in the club handsy, hands on, physically naughty, flirtatious when interacting in the club. Any club rules to abide by?
.[/QUOTE]Based on my observation which I have reported before, there is virtually no limit as long as you both have your clothes on. There is no problem to show their breasts or pull down pants to show you their butts briefly. I saw or experienced all these on the couch right in front of the elevator.
Don't let the price mentioned here limit you. I have high expectation of you. If anyone can get price down to 500 or less which is the old price, that will be you.
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[QUOTE=Blakman;2991608]Taxi, uber from airport to moema? If taxi then what is the cost. Where should I exchange currency?[/QUOTE]Look up [b]Seattle Turismo[/b] for better money exchange rate. look up cambio if you don't care much about exchange rate. Uber cost varies widely. At least 10 USD.
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Love the humor or the believe
But yes / you know me very well. I will try to challenge the inflated prices. My way, my price, or the highway. My non stop flight to Brazil only cost me $14 so I am already working magic. Question Should I split my two weeks into second week in Rio de Janiero. I have spotted a cheap flight.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2991627]Based on my observation which I have reported before, there is virtually no limit as long as you both have your clothes on. There is no problem to show their breasts or pull down pants to show you their butts briefly. I saw or experienced all these on the couch right in front of the elevator.
Don't let the price mentioned here limit you. I have high expectation of you. If anyone can get price down to 500 or less which is the old price, that will be you.[/QUOTE].
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Headed to 57 friends. Suggestions?
Headed to 57 friends either this afternoon or tomorrow.
Any suggestions on who to look for or tips regarding this establishment?
Been to Tangara many times and am familiar with that Clinica.
Thanks in advance.
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Is anybody going in April? I will probably in Sao Paul. Rio de Janeiro at that time, it will be my first time in Brazil, mas eu falo um pouco de portugues.
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My airbnb cannot register from 9 pm to 9 am
Should I cancel this arrangement, Will it definitely impact a good time?
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[QUOTE=Blakman;2991711]Question Should I split my two weeks into second week in Rio de Janiero..[/QUOTE]If you enjoy sightseeing, then it definitely is worth spending a few days. There are many cheaper brothels in Rio. They are similar to clinica but the room is not as nice and often the room does not have a shower, or bedsheet is never changed.
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[QUOTE=Blakman;2991876]Should I cancel this arrangement, Will it definitely impact a good time?[/QUOTE]There are always love motels. The girls will know where to take you.
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Soon on my way to Sao Paolo
I'm coming to Sao Paolo in a few weeks. More precisely, April 12. I've been to Rio at least ten times and now with varied feedback about Rio from good friends, this time I'm mainly focusing on Sao Paolo. I've understood that it's a good idea to book a room in Moema and that it's relatively safe to walk to the Clinicas in the area.
But is there an overview of Clinicas with addresses and possibly websites? I've tried using Google Translate and it's challenging.
This would be incredibly useful for those of us who don't know the area and the various offers with addresses.
I'm also looking forward to Scandalo and the other somewhat more affordable nightclubs.
I like strip clubs, but seeing that there are few and with minimal information about them on the forum, I think these are hardly recommended?
I've understood that it's about 20 minutes with an Uber from Moema to Scandalo and that the traffic can be heavy. Is it an idea to book a room closer to Scandalo? If so, any suggestions?
If more people from the forum are hunting in Sao Paolo from April 12th until the end of the month, please send a suggestion for possible company if you like.
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Sao Paolo
I feel so stupid. I can not even find Prime :-)
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[QUOTE=James006;2992001] I can not even find Prime :-)[/QUOTE]It's called Moema Prime on google map.
The others are EnjoySpa, Clínica Miruna, 57 House Friends Club, Abbóbora
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Managing expectations.
In Scandallo and alike, am I going to find girls like how Sofia Vergara (yes I know she's Colombian, not Brazilian, but you get the idea) looks in this infamous cameo. ?
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVau2T_2Two[/URL]
3 weeks to go until I'm there.
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[QUOTE=James006;2992000]I'm coming to Sao Paolo in a few weeks. More precisely, April 12. I've been to Rio at least ten times and now with varied feedback about Rio from good friends, this time I'm mainly focusing on Sao Paolo. I've understood that it's a good idea to book a room in Moema and that it's relatively safe to walk to the Clinicas in the area.
But is there an overview of Clinicas with addresses and possibly websites? I've tried using Google Translate and it's challenging.
This would be incredibly useful for those of us who don't know the area and the various offers with addresses.
I'm also looking forward to Scandalo and the other somewhat more affordable nightclubs.
I like strip clubs, but seeing that there are few and with minimal information about them on the forum, I think these are hardly recommended?[/QUOTE]We can meet if I will be at Sao Paulo at that time, I also want to go to Rio, so let's see.
I can't pay membership on the forum so far, as my email account doesn't accept test email.
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There are always Love Motels
[QUOTE=Nounce;2991988]There are always love motels. The girls will know where to take you.[/QUOTE]True words have been spoken.
With Moema as a starting point.
Sao Paulo. Love motels.
Andar de Cima. Sutes. Centro, So Paulo (erotic fun suites, short Uber from Casarao, next door to Love Cabaret, suites suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service, fun party atmosphere in suites).
Motel Colonial Palace (fucking best economical deal on the budget, decent pool, excellent food, and breakfast, short Uber from Scandallo, suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service, damn uber drivers prefer pickup outside instead of meeting in suites, the religious uber drivers never come inside, only outside drop-off, or pick up or they cancel the ride).
Lush Motel (unidade Ipiranga) (pool with toys, modern suites, short Uber from Scandallo decent size pool, suitable for threesome, all night, foursome are a bit tight, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service).
Secrets Motel are. Sebastopol, 47 - Vila Inglesa, So Paulo (nice daytime midpoint place to meet garotas when they live far away, suites average, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, marola friendly, service sucks, order iFood).
Hotel For Lovers, one minute walk from Jabaqura Metro.
Are. Dos Jequitibs, 261 - Jardim Oriental, (the rooms suck, the service sucks, and the price is cheap mas barrato, order iFood, however, the location for afternoon meetup, no Uber needed. Garotas takes the metro to Jabaquara Metro, walks less than one minute to the motel, a good meet-up spot when there is rain, afternoon thunderstorms, and traffic backed up for miles, and promised to meet at 5 pm, nothing else to recommend about the place). Garotas can leave by metro or onibus, easy in easy out for them).
Swing Motel, no Morumbi, So Paulo (far from scandallo, 20 min uber from Moema, erotic fun suites, suites suitable but tight for threesome, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for more garotas, ok service, colorful suites).
In Rio.
Panda Motel Botafogo, (top end suites with fvcking large ass pool, suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service in tuxedos, short Uber from Monte Carlos).
Those are my places and why —what's yours and why?
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Yes Absolutely
[QUOTE=JB238;2992010]In Scandallo and alike, am I going to find girls like how Sofia Vergara (yes I know she's Colombian, not Brazilian, but you get the idea) looks in this infamous cameo. ?
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVau2T_2Two[/URL]
3 weeks to go until I'm there.[/QUOTE]Damn. I hadn't seen her that young. Wow. But yes absolutely you will see girls like that at Scan. Not every one obviously. It's a 7 and up crowd. But I've def seen and been with at least one 9. 5 there (only ten I've ever met was in Spain). You won't have to look far for pretty girls.
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Prives
[QUOTE=Nounce;2991987]If you enjoy sightseeing, then it definitely is worth spending a few days. There are many cheaper brothels in Rio. They are similar to clinica but the room is not as nice and often the room does not have a shower, or bedsheet is never changed.[/QUOTE]And this is what really keeps me away from the Rio brothels or "prives". I don't like mongering in dirty environs. The Sampa clinica scene is cool, but the Rio prives are not for me!
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Cancelled reservation
At an airbnb not too far from casarao. May regret my decision. But the host said just give him 20 minutes advance notice no matter what time for visitors
[QUOTE=Nounce;2991987]If you enjoy sightseeing, then it definitely is worth spending a few days. There are many cheaper brothels in Rio. They are similar to clinica but the room is not as nice and often the room does not have a shower, or bedsheet is never changed.[/QUOTE].
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There are always Love Motel Ii
[QUOTE=Nounce;2991988]There are always love motels. The girls will know where to take you.[/QUOTE]Truth has been spoken. True words have been spoken.
With Moema or Scandallo as a starting point.
I remembered a few more in Sao Paulo.
Motel Motor Inn.
Deslumbre Motor Inn motel.
Av. Atlntica, 3621 - Interlagos, So Paulo. SP.
(far from Scandallo, 30 min Uber from Moema, it is easier to meet the "live far away" Garota at this spot, some live fuvking one or two hours away. Nothing special, it is located by the water, suites are fine nothing to get excited about. Marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for more garotas, slow service, basic rooms, blue tooth doesn't work. Best to order iFood, poorly trained receptionist are too damn slow).
Motel My Flowers.
Avenida doutor Ricardo Jafet 1188 (suites with small to medium size pool, suitable for threesome, tight for foursome, just ok place, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, below average service).
Motel LE Nid.
Av. Washington Lus, 1003 - Chcara Flora, So Paulo.
It 10 min from Secrets Motel, 25 from Moema, 35 min Scandallo, nothing stands out.
Location is easier to meet the "live far away"garota daytime the ones that live one or two hours away. Nothing special, suites are fine nothing to get excited about. Marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for more garotas, average service.
I don't remember a lot.
Motel Asturias. Av. Das Naes Unidas, 7715 - Pinheiros, So Paulo. SP.
(went there but the garotas didn't want to stay. , it is an old fashioned dated place Motel Asturia has a heated pool we didn't stay don't remember why, the better suites were occupied, it is an old fashioned dated place, we bailed and went elsewhere.
Intense Motel Rua Arnaldo Magniccaro, 489 - Interlagos, So Paulo. SP, (suites with small to medium size Jazcuzxi suitable for a threesome, decent ok place, Marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, good to average service, another spot to for afternoon rendezvous with live far away garotas.)
Crush Motel. So Paulo So Paulo.
Av. Dr. Ricardo Jafet, 1862 - Vila Mariana, So Paulo. SP.
(5 min Uber from Scandallos, the exterior is lit up like Christmas, inside the rooms stuff doesn't work, the service stinks, and the price is expensive due to being near Scandallo.
The suites are suitable very tight for a threesome, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for more garotas, slow ass, and dumb service).
Prestige Motel So Paulo Prestige Motel So Paulo. Av. Dr. Ricardo Jafet, 1166.
(5 min Uber from Scandallo went there with three 3 scandals garotas, they liked the place, the higher-end suites are better, jacuzzi, pool, small romantic, erotic chocolates throughout the room, modern suites, short Uber from Scandallo decent size pool, suitable for foursome, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, solid good service).
In the love motels, they have sex toys, creams, lotions, and fun stuff, I let the garottes fantasies go wild!! Let them order sexy lingerie, and kinky stripper gstrings on the menu to boost to the level of Brazilian wild ass IoP. Favorite item is three packs of garganta profunda throat spray. Easier for a pair of young 20-year-old newbie brancas to compete in deep throat contests, swallowing down to the balls in lickable cherry, strawberry, mint, or chiclet flavors. No gagging either. Kkk.
Uber AI remembers all these fvcking addresses in Uber cache and brings them up at the most inappropriate times or sends stupid message "hey you went to Secrets motel 1 am yesterday, there are five Uber drivers nearby ready to take you to Secrets motel again in five minutes."
I found the motel guide hard to navigate.
Go. [URL]guiademoteis.com.br[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2992043]Damn. I hadn't seen her that young. Wow. But yes absolutely you will see girls like that at Scan. Not every one obviously. It's a 7 and up crowd. But I've def seen and been with at least one 9. 5 there (only ten I've ever met was in Spain). You won't have to look far for pretty girls.[/QUOTE]Thanks Steve! It's going to be a long three weeks waiting to get there.
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Just steer your expectations down for you incoming tourists for a week or 9 days and avoid overpaying.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2992043]Damn. I hadn't seen her that young. Wow. But yes absolutely you will see girls like that at Scan. Not every one obviously. It's a 7 and up crowd. But I've def seen and been with at least one 9. 5 there (only ten I've ever met was in Spain). You won't have to look far for pretty girls.[/QUOTE]
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Triple play doable first day
If I make my flight and safe landing, First day tangara, scandallo, and casarao August. Is that doable or too much for first visit, first day sao Paulo journey.
Where do I exchange money, Do they charge a fee like Colombia or even exchange?
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The Palms
I'm still on the ground here in Brazil and managed to get to one clinica The Palms. I'm glad I did as overall it was a good experience, and I would visit again for daytime action. The basic cost for a massage was 450 reals for an hour paid to the house. If you want extras, then you negotiate those directly with the girl in the room at a set price of 350 reals. So 800 reals total including whatever extras you bargain for. You choose a girl by selecting from a tablet. There were 5 girls available during my visit, and I chose the hottest one available, a morena clara with a name something like "Myisa". In the room she told me she was 26 with no kids. I was looking forward to the massage as much as anything, and she did a decent job massaging me from head to toe with some light cream. On the flip there was hugging and DFKing and Myisa seemed turned on as her nipples stiffened (and were quite suckable). Then came a good BBBJ and fucking in cowgirl and doggy. I came in mish with lots of kissing with tongue. The session went down how I expected for an establishment of this type, and again I would return. The only thing I didn't like is that the water in the shower really didn't get hot. Don't know if that is a general problem at The Palms or if it was just the room I had. A positive is that you can pay the house with a card if you choose without a surcharge for the privilege. I paid Myisa with cash. For daytime clinica action I recommend The Palms.
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Back in SP for the first time since 2022, sixth trip ever but only ever done Scandallo or Seeking. Was planning to stick with Scandallo as I have the money and on a bit of a quest to see if I can transform one of these gals into my sugar baby for the rest of the week as Seeking was looking light. Armed with a bottle of PReP, Doxy, and a test from 2 weeks ago I'm trying to find someone cute and recently tested to fill up properly after a few days of work responsibilities.
Friday Night. Scandallo: Show up at 9, eat dinner, and start scoping around 10:30. Probably the best lineup I've seen not just at Scandallo but at any brothel in the world. One thing I like about Brazil is the variety. Not just slavic hotties like in Germany or Asian girls in. Well. Asia. Got lured in by an olive skinned seasoned vet, no English, definitely not sugar baby material. 1 K.
Sunday Night. Casarao Augusta: Being close to my hotel and open on Sunday made it easy to branch out this trip. Showed up at open and slowly a lineup of 3-6's filtered in with one stand out. A young innocent looking spinner but couldn't tell if her tits were fake or if she was hiding a belly under a waist high skirt. She gets snagged as I spot her and pulled off to the hotel, maybe I missed my chance. A few of the 6's are bangable, but I was hoping to strike gold. Spinner walks back in 45 minutes later and I pull her aside. She speaks perfect English! Says she spotted me at Scandallo on Friday, and she goes to Casarao on Sunday's if she is looking to work an extra night. I give her my story about missing my sugar baby back home, and she says the magic words "maybe I can be your sugar baby this week". We head over to the hotel for an audition, I give her a little extra splitting the difference between Casarao and Scandallo pricing (750) and she passes the test with flying colors. Top comes off revealing big pillowy naturals, slim with soft curves all over on a petite frame, just perfect. Loves touching and being touched, making out, isn't scared to do a little grinding and teasing about sticking it in raw but we haven't traded papers yet so wasn't looking for more. She says she heading back home until Wednesday, but wants "to be all yours until you leave on Sunday". Got the WhatsApp, a few short notes back and forth, going to lean in tomorrow offering her the papers and seeing what she wants to come spend the night.
Monday Night. Scandallo: Show up at 6:45 to beat the cover charge and look for a competitor in case Casarao gal flakes. Most of the place is closed off, so I sit and drink for a few hours in the restaurant. Lineup obviously isn't to Friday standards, but still lots of options. I manage to stay away from what tempted me on Friday, and was eyeballing a young pale redhead with shoulder length hair and pigtails but she was probably too scrawny. An adorable petite gal walks in, not an inch above 5', and I grab her quick. Another English speaker, I'm getting lucky. Unfortunately she couldn't hold a candle to the other in the room. Cute body, but nothing going on up top and I am looking for that this trip. Great head and a good fuck but avoided being touched. Not sugar baby material. Leave around 10:30 when the main room opened up but the large outside area was still closed off. 1. 2 K.
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NICE REPORT FEW QUESTIONS. BE IN SAO Friday
First trip to Brazil. When you mention your prices. Was that girl and room. Or just the Girl. I am shock to here casarao girls go to scandallo. Don't get mad it me, and maybe Brazil will change me but if I am spending that kind of money. I am expecting overnight, sloppy toppy, toss salad, nut in the face, breakfast in the morning. Where can I find these girls.
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[QUOTE=Blakman;2992840]First trip to Brazil. When you mention your prices. Was that girl and room. Or just the Girl. I am shock to here casarao girls go to scandallo. Don't get mad it me, and maybe Brazil will change me but if I am spending that kind of money. I am expecting overnight, sloppy toppy, toss salad, nut in the face, breakfast in the morning. Where can I find these girls.[/QUOTE]Prices I posted below were girl only. +300 for room and +300/500 for entry. So yeah you are looking at almost 2 K for Scandallo. Casarao was 60 entry and 100 room but I was barely motivated to fuck any of the other girls there. Bad sex isn't worth anything, and I pay double what Scandallo charges in the states.
Not sure why you would be shocked a girl at Scandallo would slum it at Casarao for a night instead of making nothing. And she landed my dumb ass who just had her over fucking me for 4 hours straight in my hotel room for 2000. Is that too much? Yeah. Is she coming back for anal tomorrow? Goddamn right she is. Not going to haggle to save $100 on grade A service.
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[QUOTE=Blakman;2992840] I am shock to here casarao girls go to scandallo. Don't get mad it me, .... Where can I find these girls.[/QUOTE]I posted a price summary about 16 or 17 pages from here. That should be reliable for Casarao, most locals pay the average price I posted. Scandallo is closed on Sunday. Based on the average price I posted. She just need to work a little harder. She can break even in about two sessions. It appears that was what happened within 45 minutes, and it seems her home is not in SP. What would you do if it were you? If you agree with this calculation, then you must pay for her lost business when she spent the whole night with you. For the same reason, Rio or clinica will be easier to find them cheaper.
Scandallo is a place that you can have long foreplay. Casarao is much faster where the pace is more like a casa so waiting by the door will allow you to scoop them up before others.
One way to get better pricing is to buy in bulk. If my memory serves me, AN paid 3500 for 3 whole days and he is generous guy but more experienced. Just to give you some perspective, most of them are unlikely to make over 3000 a month from a regular job based on my observation.
I answered the money exchange place question when you asked the first time. You can use it to search for more detail.
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2024 Oct report
Had my 3rd visit to SP in the last 2 years. Had been busy and posting the old review before my next visit.
Was there for 7 days. As my previous visits, went to most of the clinicas in the day time and Casarao at the night.
Clinicas. Yankin and Tangara are better with english speaking attendant. Was very accommodative to take me to waiting area and see girls second time as I could not remember the names. All good experiences.
Abbobora. Very good girls.
Prime. Went once and had my 200 (along with 700) reals stolen. It was my mistake to just keep it in pocket directly and while showering it was not visible unlike other clinicas which has glass door.
Also I was usng the translator and after deed the girl was talking to someone in the phone. On hearing some notification sound, she thought I was trying to translate and immediately grabbed the phone to check. She might have told something about me. Not a nice exp! Never had this issue in my other visits.
Casarao. Did a repeat with Larissa. Around 300-400 for all of them for 30 mins.
One thing I noticed is the BBBJ coming down. I had CBJ 75% of the time and did not compel.
This time planning to go to Palms or other high end clinicas. Also planning 57 friends house and Scandello.
For 57 - is the price fixed or we need to negotiate like Casarao?
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At the airport waiting departure
Glad you didn't take offense and added more info. I actually like the scoop up plan, make them like you to spend less for the following days. I am an infamous cheapy, haggler. No shame in my game. I normally use tinder and get freebies or have a girl turn out like me. But being cheap I passed on tinder this time. So I am arriving with no girls preattached. So this is new ball game. It freaks me out how women who have so little dictates the prices and how the game is played. Well tomorrow is tangara, scandallo if all goes good. Great chance for me to see why $150-250 is aworth it.
[QUOTE=Tnttwo;2992869]Prices I posted below were girl only. +300 for room and +300/500 for entry. So yeah you are looking at almost 2 K for Scandallo. Casarao was 60 entry and 100 room but I was barely motivated to fuck any of the other girls there. Bad sex isn't worth anything, and I pay double what Scandallo charges in the states.
Not sure why you would be shocked a girl at Scandallo would slum it at Casarao for a night instead of making nothing. And she landed my dumb ass who just had her over fucking me for 4 hours straight in my hotel room for 2000. Is that too much? Yeah. Is she coming back for anal tomorrow? Goddamn right she is. Not going to haggle to save $100 on grade A service.[/QUOTE].
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Totally Doable
[QUOTE=Blakman;2992565]If I make my flight and safe landing, First day tangara, scandallo, and casarao August. Is that doable or too much for first visit, first day sao Paulo journey.
Where do I exchange money, Do they charge a fee like Colombia or even exchange?[/QUOTE]Cash will be your only constraint. Otherwise totally doable. My first trip there I did 5 girls in 24 hours. Crazy person! Scandallo. Casarao. Tangara. Online girl at hotel. Repeat with casarao girl. LOL.
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Mid March
Casarao (my first time visiting).
I went on Tuesday and Thursday.
Price paid: 1 h was 500, small room 50 (first session), big room 100 (second session). Entrance 50.
The place has a lot of average looking girls and at times it felt like dumpster diving. On Tuesday I sessioned with two Girls. The first session was just ok but the second one was really nice even though the girl complained when 45 min had passed that she wanted me to gozo gozo. I will never forget her sexy moaning. I went back on Thursday with my friend who lives 1 h outside of SP. I didn't'find anything interesting and had thought about repeating with the sexy moaner but my friend chatted up a girl and told me that I should take her back to my Airbnb. She's Venezuelan and he said that she would do 2 h for 800. It was about 04.40 am and I was drunk and thought why not. She had to pay a fee to exit which I think was 150. We meet outside and she asks for the money. I give her 800 and she follows us to a parking lot 100 m away. In the car she gets nervous and asks for the address to the Airbnb and sends it to her friend. In the car my buddy tries to get her to flash her tits but this "GND" is too prude for that. The reception at the Airbnb is empty and the security outside is patrolling between my building and another building 50 m away. I use the facial scanner to enter the building and the security guard says nothing. We go take a shower and afterwards as the BJ is about to start on the couch she unwraps a condom and I tell her "stop, wtf is this?" she says she only does CBJ. I tell her no way, this is Brazil, in Brazil BBBJ is the norm. We argue back and forth and it's about 6 am. I tell her to gtfo and give me 500 back and keep 300 but she refuses. Some more arguing but then she finally gives in and says ok. She inspects my dick for 3 seconds and then goes to work. She stops after a minute and tells me that she has never done a BBBJ before (yeah yeah whatever). I fuck her against the ceiling to floor glass windows overlooking the SP skyline (31st floor) until I finish. We rested for a while and she wanted to attempt a second round but I wasn't feeling it (it is now 7 am). She said that she could stay longer free of charge but I told her that she should go. I escorted her out since the facial scanner at the building entrance / exit wouldn't recognize her face and let her out.
Scandallo. Wednesday and Friday.
Me and my buddy arrive around 22.45 and it's a party vibe. It's his first time in Scandallo and he loved it but thought that the girl's asking price is crazy. Some of the girls told him that they offer a discounted price to locals (I didn't not ask how much). He found two white girls, a blond with wavy hair and a brunette with long straight hair. They ask for coco water and they get it. The blonde speaks English well and tells me of her "travels" around Europe. And as you suspect, she eventually hints "let's go upstairs" and hits me with 2000. I tell her 900 and she walks away. My friend told me to go after her and talk her down to 1100. Nope, she aint all that. My friend finds a girl called Bruna. She asks for 1200 I tell her 800, she says 1000 I say 800 and she says ok. This girl can ride! Afterwards my friend and I go to the restaurant and Bruna joins us shortly. She tells my friend that her pussy is burning after our session, lmao. She says she has a friend who speaks English that I should check out. Bruna goes home. Her friend Camilla finds me in the main area and we speak for a few minutes and her body looked nice in the dress so this felt like a good choice. She says let's go upstairs and that she'll do the same rate as her friend. I said OK. Before we enter the room, she tells me to set my phone timer on 50 minutes so they won't have me paying for overtime. In the room she asks for the money, I give her 800 and says honey you're short 200. I tell her no; this is what your friend got. She says really? She told me you gave her 1000. She was fine with 800 and shrugged it off. This girl talked and showered a lot, but the worst part was that her body didn't look as nice when she got naked. She also didn't have any lube on her. "I'm naturally wet". Yeah, this was the worst session of the trip.
I came back on Friday but solo since my friend had to work. It's 23.00 and the place is dead, no party vibe whatsoever. Went to the restaurant to eat and nearly all the tables were occupied. Spotted a girl with a huuuuuge ass, finally. A lot of girls tried to join me for dinner but I told them that I wanted to eat, that I wasn't feeling social. The look on their faces kkkkkkk. There was a blonde girl with big blue eyes that merited a fuck but my mind was set on the girl with the huge ass. After dinner I went looking for her and I could not find her. I was going to wait another hour and then go to Casarao if I couldn't find her. I finally found her by the outside area far away from the bar. She speaks English and has also worked in Europe. This was the best sessions of the entire trip. A sensual PSE. She asked for 1200 but settled for 900. I tried to meet her on Saturday during the day but she couldn't make it.
On the way to the airport (Saturday 5 pm) my friend drove past Thomas Edison Industrial Park, he wanted to show me SW. It was a mix of trannies and women. And of course, the hottest girl of them all was leaning against a cop car and chatting with the cops.
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WOW, MIND BLOWING, WELCOME TO Brazil
Landed in the morning. Uber $21 us. Apartment look cute. I love it. 2 minutes from casarao. Couple visits to freir conacea mall. Something like that. Walk to shopping citade to change $$ Couldn't didn't bring passport. Walked back to my apartment got my passport return back to the mall. Trying to lose my belly. Anyways told me 5. 4. Argued 5. 7 but no win. Walked back to apartment. Pouring rain. Said let me go to tangara. Longer drive than expected expected. Seen the lineup. Cool how they do it. Picked a mulatto Brazilian. Nice tits. They show me half HR price. I say one HR. We get to the room and she tongue kisses me right away. I said okay. Then tells me to shower. I get out the shower dry off and on her way to take a shower she gets down and start sucking my dick. I am like can I be this lucky. Finish takes a shower and comes back passionately kissing me. I put a pillow on the ground and tell her get on her knees. She's give me the look in the eye suck dick, the long stroke sick dick, licking the balls, I started falling in love. We did every position imaginable except fuck in the asshole. She was coming real loud, or faking it. Then the hour was expiring and she wanted me to cum. So I had her lay missionary and she looked in my eyes and played with my nipples. Kept talking dirty in Portuguese and I splashed on her face. I roared like Tony tiger. I get loud when I nut. She grabbed that dick and started licking of the cum. I was like this is what Brazil is all about. She seem very happy and she went to take a shower. I pulled out $3 us dollars to tip her. She saw it but she didn't unhappy so I said okay. She told to wait for her so we walk down together. I got her number. She said she can come to my apartment but different agreement. We walked to the main lady and then she went somewhere. I gave the lady 340 brl but she gave me 100 brl back. I was like this is the price I am use to. I gave the girl 50 brl cause her performance was unreal. I heard telling her girls he gave me $3 then gave me 50 brl. Got one more number. They told me yankin is their place as well but starts 6 pm to 4 pm. I took a uber now getting ready for scandallo. I got a knack for picking girls who love sucking dyck.
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Tuesday. Seeking Gal. Long day at the office but I did hit up the few okay looking gals I had WhatsApp numbers for from Seeking. Nearly 6' tall athletic morena was down to come play at the hotel for an hour. I got her massive clit nice and engorged and slid it all over me. Covered up and she rode me to completion. Nice way to be put down for the night. 1. 1 K.
Wednesday. Scandallo Gal "S" from Sunday is back in town, wants to come over for 3-4 hours or so before she hits up the club again. The work ethic on this lady. She arrives around 7, showers and pops out in some sexy lingerie. Says she wants to be my sugar baby for the rest of the week. I'm down. We talk about what we are into and settle on recording a lot of our playtime tonight. Lots of teasing, she seems reluctant to go without a cover, not that lubing up her pussy and grinding it hard all over me is any safer. We do some other kinky things I won't go into depth on, but long story short she leaves me very satisfied with a lot of recorded memories. We order in some sushi, talk some more, and she puts me down with another quickie before heading off to work. 2 K.
Thursday. Scandallo - Schedules aren't lining up with my new sugar baby. I'm too tired to meet her before Scandallo, so I decide to take a nap and tell her I might see her there and she can be my sexy translator but I won't be fucking my sugar baby in the club. The club is for working girls only! I get there around 9:30, intending to find someone for a quick fuck and head back to the hotel. I spot a stunning girl checking in the same time I was that set my expectations high for the evening. I see "S" around, we hang for a minute or two each time and chat about how the hunt is going. I buy her a drink to use up my consumption, and I see her land a trick eventually. I on the other hand never spot my girl from reception the entire night, and while there are a lot of girls I would fuck, no one is holding a candle to S or the reception girl. Until 1:30 and I'm sitting outside and a perfect little light skinned sweetie walks through and I snag her fast. Another English speaker who has a flawless body, 20 years old. Get her to the room, and the girl is either too drunk to give a good handjob or is just bad at it, actually painfully pulling the skin near the base off my body. She hops on with a cover and that's fine, but I realize I am going to have to take control and roll her onto her back. She makes some fun noises between pleasure and pain while telling me to go harder. I finish, and we trade details. I didn't have high hopes, but had to take a shot on following up because her body was just 10/10. Texted her the next day and she wanted 2 K at my hotel but gave a hard no to anything that would have made it fun for me so I passed.
500 entry + 300 room + 1000 lady.
Friday. S is back, our final visit. She had already seen my tests, but kept questioning other things as we started getting going. My vasectomy, my PReP. I pull out my pill box, pull up pill finder and show her what it is. Hunt for my sperm test from a few years back showing I'm good to go and, finally, she hops on and we fuck in multiple positions until I come inside her in missionary. Mission accomplished! Well, the first one, she mentioned anal in our last meeting and I'm going in for another round after chatting for a bit. Popped again in the back door and she tucked me into bed. 2 K ad she runs back off to work again, what a go-getter.
Today I am meeting up with an escort I've been seeing on every trip since 2017. She is pushing 30 now but still looks great. 1. 6 K for 2 hours before I head back home.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2993310]I pulled out $3 us dollars to tip her. She saw it but she didn't unhappy so I said okay. She told to wait for her so we walk down together.
I heard telling her girls he gave me $3 then gave me 50 brl. [/QUOTE]My Brother in Christ what is a girl in Brazil going to do with three US dollars? Brazil isn't a failed state where everyone is using USD because the local currency is awful. You can't change singles. Even when I was in Argentina during peak hyperinflation a $20 was more of a pain in the ass than a benefit to anyone not in extreme poverty. Are you fluent enough to catch the confusion and sarcasm that must have been in her voice when telling the other girls about the weirdo handing out singles like he was at the rail at a strip club?
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[QUOTE=Blakman;2993310]......We did every position imaginable except fuck in the asshole. She was coming real loud, or faking it. Then the hour was expiring and she wanted me to cum. So I had her lay missionary and she looked in my eyes and played with my nipples. Kept talking dirty in Portuguese and I splashed on her face. I roared like Tony tiger. I get loud when I nut. She grabbed that dick and started licking of the cum.......[/QUOTE]Welcum to Brazil.
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Scandallo and Casarao August
Scandallo lived up to the hype. The place is high standard and managed in that degree. The cover 200 brl is worth it cause the quality is outstanding. The 300 brl is worth it cause the food is soo good. Don't sleep on the food. They give you like a credit card and have you pay when you leave. This is clever cause they expect you not to control your spending. I saw three areas, the restaurant, the band area, and outdoor patio area. There's probably more. Upstairs where you have sex. I did not entertain. Not because I didn't want to but I refuse to be hustled. Players hustle not get hustled. Just joking LOL. Anyways girls aggressively try to get you to go up to the room. That's the bingo, grand prize. Next is to get you to pay for drinks or food. Followed by a tip for there aggressive flirting and time. That's the game in a nutshell. I didn't entertain any. Got every girl number that approach me. About 2 hrs there ready to leave. You check out. My consumption was 40 brl over. So my bill was 540 brl.
Casarao. 60 entry. Give you a card again you pay afters. No Casarao is not as glamorous as Casarao but the quality is there just a notch below. Saw a thick black girl no smiles all business LOL. She said this your first time I said yes. She said let me educate you LOL. 100 for the room, 500 for the girl you pay when you leave this meaning 60 entry fee and liquor price. I told her I need more time. Lots of hot girls. So nounce you I have to test the game. Saw a thick white princess. Quoted me 500. Nice fat soft ass. I said 350. She said yes let's go. Told her I let her know later. Too soon to take a chick. I had a problem though. I had little brl money. Just 250. I only changed $100 because chick gave me low rate of 5. 4. So I went back to my apartment to get some us $ that adds up to 350. I took a thick mulatto chick but when we got next door she said 350 is only half HR, and she only does covered blow job. So cancelled that. Go back in and find a girl I like. Abs, nice ass. She told me 350 also but now she says that also is just half HR. I explain well you led me to believe it's an HR and if you want my money then it's got to be q HR. She says 400. I go ok LOL. We pay and go in the room. The rooms so far has been very decent. She gets undress and beautiful body. I shower, she showers. We kiss, and it's true Brazil girls love kissing. She was so soft and delicate with her affection and sucking my dick. She went down deep throat style so I started forcing her head down and fucking her throat. She would come up for air and go right back sucking. Really enjoyed it. Fucked her doggy and missionary. No complaining, no rushing, her face and skin was so pretty to me. It led me to come while in the pussy which rarely happens with me. I paid her 150 brl and $40 us dollars. So it was 400 girl 1 HR, 60 entrance, 100 rm. Great night. I love Brazil now that I understand the game.
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[QUOTE=Blakman;2993310]Landed in the morning. Uber $21 us. Apartment look cute. I love it. 2 minutes from casarao. Couple visits to freir conacea mall. Something like that. Walk to shopping citade to change $$ Couldn't didn't bring passport. Walked back to my apartment got my passport return back to the mall. Trying to lose my belly. Anyways told me 5. 4. Argued 5. 7 but no win. Walked back to apartment. Pouring rain. Said let me go to tangara. Longer drive than expected expected. Seen the lineup. Cool how they do uber now getting ready for scandallo. .[/QUOTE]Welcum to Brasil. Go to Kalunga store. They will make a laminated copy of the passport page. For 20 reais. Takes 30 min. Use the laminated copy as ID in money exhange places. Leave us passport secured away never to use again until at the airport. Scandallo, casarao, love motels, office buildings, use expired drivers liscence or the laminated ID from Kalunga. Don't handover passport to any of these mofos. Hell use a vietnam, thailand Cambodia ID I know those work too 😛.
Great fun at Tanagara. I like to grab two or three at a time for one and two hour sessions. Remember Tangara is open Sunday afternoon, its a good. Spot to drink, chill and bangout a leisure Sunday afternoon. Often the weekend garotas only work weekends so good.
Move to get wassap numbers.
Scandallo. Ahh the first time the elevator doors opened and I smelled the scent of wafting perfume coming off so many loria.
Garotas. Inwas hooked.
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I think you miss the point
A good fuck gets away with paying less, she return my text on what's app afterwards. Did not seem disappointed at all. But you still my dude LOL.
[QUOTE=Tnttwo;2993453]Tuesday. Seeking Gal. Long day at the office but I did hit up the few okay looking gals I had WhatsApp numbers for from Seeking. Nearly 6' tall athletic morena was down to come play at the hotel for an hour. I got her massive clit nice and engorged and slid it all over me. Covered up and she rode me to completion. Nice way to be put down for the night. 1. 1 K.
Wednesday. Scandallo Gal "S" from Sunday is back in town, wants to come over for 3-4 hours or so before she hits up the club again. The work ethic on this lady. She arrives around 7, showers and pops out in some sexy lingerie. Says she wants to be my sugar baby for the rest of the week. I'm down. We talk about what we are into and settle on recording a lot of our playtime tonight. Lots of teasing, she seems reluctant to go without a cover, not that lubing up her pussy and grinding it hard all over me is any safer. We do some other kinky things I won't go into depth on, but long story short she leaves me very satisfied with a lot of recorded memories. We order in some sushi, talk some more, and she puts me down with another quickie before heading off to work. 2 K.
Thursday. Scandallo - Schedules aren't lining up with my new sugar baby. I'm too tired to meet her before Scandallo, so I decide to take a nap and tell her I might see her there and she can be my sexy translator but I won't be fucking my sugar baby in the club..[/QUOTE]
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Forked tongue BJ
I stopped by 57 Friends to watch Corinthians vs Palmieros.
Met a new garota from Curitiba. It was her second day there. She is s very chubby 25-year-old with heavy makeup. Very Shy quiet type. Her looks are nothing special. You see this chubby garota every day working in the shopping mall or Lojas Americana. Nothing special until I convinced her to show me her tongue. Whoosh she has a forked tongue. A split tongue. Her tongue can lick both sides of the Pau at the same time. Bingo let's go! Told Julia at a reception taking her sweet-ass tongue for an hour session and I want to discount. Kkk I also took my stand by deepthroat Morena Thalia. Duplo session two garotas, two hours. Plus drinks. The slightly larger room has an Ottoman-style bed.
When she finished showering. We sat on the chair Ibpushed her head and neck all the down to the boys. To get a throat sloppy massage. Didn't let her come up for air until 20 minutes later. With a devil forked tongue of course she does everything kinky you can imagine. Over the next two hours relentless Deepthroats from booth garotas. They were unleashed. Some drinks, music, Marcelo fun, and the promise of Pix. I ended with a day or two worth of splooge in her open mouth. Swallowed all. I heard a few gulps as almost all went down. A slight dribble in the corner of her mouth was kicked and cleaned nicely by the Morena. She wanted more than a taste but the greedy.
Curitiba garota swallowed it all.
In the end paid for the session, got a nice fat discount on all the drinks which was unusual and didn't watch one minute of the game. Nice to find newbie cum swallowing garotas. If you get a covered BJ in 57 friends you are doing it wrong.
Finally they have three different credit card machines after all the damn complaints.
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Taxis / Ubers
I just read this on a Sao Paulo escort guide website:
"Do not go to any Strip Club or Brothel with a taxi as they charge you min entry fee with no drink. The clubs have to pay TAXI DRIVERS high commission".
I was planning on taking Uber everywhere when I'm there. I'm guessing Uber drivers are fine, but may have issues with normal / local taxis?
Anyone had any issues with this?
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I could go casarao every day / few questions
Yesterday I visited Yankin. That place was not for me so I passed on it. Said fuck it let me go back to Tangara. 2nd time around wasn't feeling it so I passed on it also. Probably will not return. But it was great welcome experience. Return to apartment and hit up casarao about 12 am. That place has lots of hot girls without the outrageous price tag. There was a girl I declined previous day cause she said covered blow job. But I wanted to see her phat ass and perfect natural tits. So I went up to her and said 500 brl okay to covered blow job. She was so happy. This signals to me these girls will accept 400 brl 1 HR on a regular. Well most I think til proven wrong. She was from rio. What's also a revelation to me some of the girls wear the same outfit. I was like is that cool or not cool. I didn't have brazillian currency but she had a credit card machine. I went through the process but was nervous using my credit card. Please respond with assurance or alert. Anyways she was so nice and pleasant. We did a sexy shower together. The other girls was just separate shower. We kissed, and even with a condom the blowjob was damn good. She was really okay with me ramming her throat. I felt she would do the sucking dick forever but I didn't want to run out of time. So I had her ride on top. It was a very good ride. My first Brazilian ride. Then I f*cked doggy. She had surgery marks Above booty. Not sure why cause ass was very natural. She kept saying I am a gud girl but your bad *****. Then we switch to missionary. I looked in her eyes and she started talking Portuguese and that sent my through the roof and I nutted. Each Brazilian girl have made me nut naturally. Well First didn't but because I wanted to give her a facial.
Questions: Girl from scandallo and girl from tangara ask me if I wanted to go to hot bar. Swinger club. I decline only because I wasn't sure about the price tag going in and also if there's a price tag for the girl going with me. Like what's in it for the girl to ask me to go.
Scandallo? There was a couple girls that look like they could be men. Are they transgender women in scandallo?
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Who and who
[QUOTE=ThisOneFs1;2993040]
Clinicas. Yankin and Tangara are better with english speaking attendant.
Prime. Went once and had my 200 (along with 700) reals stolen. [/QUOTE]Can you share the names of the attendants that spoke English? And What's the name of the one that stole your money?
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Uber Táxi Pro Tip
[QUOTE=JB238;2993654]I just read this on a Sao Paulo escort guide website:
"Do not go to any Strip Club or Brothel with a taxi as they charge you min entry fee with no drink. The clubs have to pay TAXI DRIVERS high commission".
I was planning on taking Uber everywhere when I'm there. I'm guessing Uber drivers are fine, but may have issues with normal / local taxis?
Anyone had any issues with this?[/QUOTE]Uber is easiest. Just call it. It's cheap. But pro tip. In the Uber app you can call a a taxi. Do this when traffic is heavy. The taxis can use the bus lane which saves a huge amount of time when traffic is bad.
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Dude!
[QUOTE=Blakman;2993672]Yesterday I visited Yankin. That place was not for me so I passed on it. Said fuck it let me go back to Tangara. 2nd time around wasn't feeling it so I passed on it also. Probably will not return. But it was great welcome experience. Return to apartment and hit up casarao about 12 am. That place has lots of hot girls without the outrageous price tag. There was a girl I declined previous day cause she said covered blow job. But I wanted to see her phat ass and perfect natural tits. So I went up to her and said 500 brl okay to covered blow job. She was so happy. This signals to me these girls will accept 400 brl 1 HR on a regular. Well most I think til proven wrong. She was from rio. What's also a revelation to me some of the girls wear the same outfit. I was like is that cool or not cool. I didn't have Brazilian currency but she had a credit card machine. I went through the process but was nervous using my credit card. Please respond with assurance or alert. Anyways she was so nice and pleasant. We did a sexy shower together. The other girls was just separate shower. We kissed, and even with a condom the blowjob was damn good. She was really okay with me ramming her throat. I felt she would do the sucking dick forever but I didn't want to run out of time. So I had her ride on top. It was a very good ride. My first Brazilian ride. Then I f*cked doggy. She had surgery marks Above booty. Not sure why cause ass was very natural. She kept saying I am a gud girl but your bad *****. Then we switch to missionary.[/QUOTE]I have been going to Brazil for nearly a couple of decades and never had a CBJ. Don't accept a CBJ in Brazil! No need to. And you ask too many questions. Everything you ever needed to know for a trip has already been written. Stop asking so many questions and just do it!
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2993717]Uber is easiest. Just call it. It's cheap. But pro tip. In the Uber app you can call a a taxi. Do this when traffic is heavy. The taxis can use the bus lane which saves a huge amount of time when traffic is bad.[/QUOTE]Thanks Steve (again!) - so you've had no issues going to Scandello etc via taxi, then having issues with the club because the taxi driver goes in asking for his cut?
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Atm
[QUOTE=Blakman;2993672] I didn't have brazillian currency but she had a credit card machine. I went through the process but was nervous using my credit card?[/QUOTE]I'm sure you noticed by now that US dollars are not commonly used in Brazil. Most guys withdraw Reals from bank ATMs which is very safe and gets close to market exchange rates. Boates usually allow you to charge the girl cost with an extra charge of 10%. Money issues have discussed numerous times on this forum, which you can search for.
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Scandallo + Casarao Report (3/18 - 3/20)
I just got back recently from São Paulo and my first ever trip to Brazil. It was not a good trip. I definitely made some mistakes but now I know what I need to work on so that my next trip to SP is even better.
Tuesday, 3/18.
Before this day, I just spent the first few days sight seeing and checking out all the tourist spots. The food was really good too, definitely better than Colombian food that's for sure. I noticed that the people in Brazil will greet you more often than other countries I've been to. A simple "bom DIA" or "boa tarde" was heard multiple times a day. That would never happen in the States or even in Mexico. On Tuesday, I get to Scandallo at 6 pm to make sure I beat the $100 cover few after 7. I saw about 30-40 girls and the club wasn't open yet, just the restaurant and a small section of the outdoor patio. I go to the bar to order a cocktail and just chill for a bit, scope out the talent. I learned quickly that the girls aren't allowed to use their phones while working, which was refreshing to see. However, many of them were just standing around the bar / restaurant waiting for guys to approach them. I guess this may be different in Brazil but the strip clubs I've been to in Mexico and Colombia the girls pounce on you as soon as you walk in. It's whatever though. I finish my drink then order dinner. Got some fish with rice and salad, and it was very good. While I was eating, a slim brunette approached me and asked if I wanted her company. Had a cute face but I politely declined. I asked the waiter what time does the club open and he replied usually at 9-10 pm so I was chilling for a bit. Another girl approached me few minutes later asking if she could sit down. She had blonde hair and a nice big booty, I said yes please do. She spoke near perfect English and told me she had been working at Scandallo for 2 years now. About 20 minutes pass and she is asking me to go to the room. Quoted me are $2000. I wasn't expecting that high of a quote because we were definitely vibing and having a good time. Oh well, onto the next. I go to the club and notice it is starting to get packed. Kept walking and saw where the outdoor patio was located. It was packed over there so I did a quick lap to scope out the talent. I get the hype of this place now, so many beautiful women and you can fuck almost any of them whenever you want. I was a little hesitant to approach because I don't speak Portuguese at all, maybe like 50 words / phrases max. I chatted up a few girls outside with the help of my handy friend, Goog Trans. A lot of these girls were pushing me to go up to the room so fast that I was kind of turned off by it. They also quoted me are $2000 and one even said are $3000 lmao gtfo out of here. Isn't the best part of Scandallo supposed to be just chilling with a girl for 2-3 hours then fucking them after? I sensed that a few of these girls were sharks just trying to suck your money quick and move onto the next. I understand why because these girls don't make any money from drinks. Anyways, it was around 11 pm and I decided to call it early and head out to Casarao. Got there at around 1 am and the bar was packed. Some girls looked like they could work at Scandallo. I approached this brunette with a big booty that kept eye fucking me. We chatted for a bit and she told me are $400 for an hour. I was shocked because I thought she would say like are $1000 or something like that. She was one of the baddest girls at the bar too. Off we went. Great BBBJ and she let me finish in her mouth. I go home after that because I was tired.
Wednesday, 3/19.
Decided on this night to get a bottle + table at Scandallo. The place was even more packed than yesterday with dozens of girls walking past the red couch every few minutes. I invited a few girls over to my table to drink (big mistake) and chatted them up. We were all dancing and a few other guys asked if they could join in. I was fine with that because there was no way I'the be taking all of these girls to the room anyways. The waiter moved our party to the table on the side with the couches. There were 8 girls drinking with all of us but I had my eyes on 2 of them. I asked one of them how much and she said are $2000 again (LOL wtf) so I tried to negotiate her down to are $1500 and she didn't budge at all. This is where things started to get ugly. I told her to leave and she said she wanted a tip. I gave her are $50 bill and told her it was nice meeting her. She looked at me and said "baby, it's not enough. " Huh? She then said she wanted are $1000 for her and her friend spending time at my table. I said no but she refused to leave. I told one of the security guards the situation and he said to pay or else they would kick me out. What the actual fuck. I thought tipping culture wasn't that big in Brazil. Why would I give you almost $200 USD in tips just for you partying with me? The security guard said I had 5 minutes to give her the money. I just said whatever and gave them are $1000. The other girls wanted tips too but security escorted them from my table, thankfully. I had never had this happen to me before, I was disgusted by the whole situation. I went down to the reception to explain the whole situation but they said there's nothing they could do. I just paid for the are $300 consumption + bottle and got the fuck out of there. Went to Casarao and had a few nice sessions, are $500 each for an hour. I could have negotiated down to are $350 but I just wanted to fuck and get all this stress out of my system. After I was done, I went home around 4 am.
Thursday, 3/20.
After seeing what happened last night, I told myself I was only going to entertain girls that I wanted to take up to the room. My 3rd day at Scandallo and I still haven't fucked at this point. I get there again before 7 pm and saw a nice big booty girl sitting at the bar. Chatted her up for a bit, she told me it was only her 2nd day working here. Instead of asking her how much, I just told her are $1000 and let's go to the room. She said yes and off we went. She took my dick like a champ and even let me do anal for a few minutes at the end. I got her WhatsApp / Insta after to keep in touch and then went back down to the club. I saw the girls that asked me for a tip last night, we made brief eye contact, and they even tried to smile at me LOL I didn't smile back obviously. Fucking scummy bitches. Met a few girls throughout the night but something I realized is that a lot of these girls will treat you badly if they notice you are a tourist. They don't pay attention to what you're saying, they will ask you to buy them drinks every 10-20 minutes, etc. I guess the treatment is better when you speak fluent Portuguese but this part turned me off so much that I was thinking about just giving up and going home. Then, I saw this half Polish and half Brazilian girl walking by the arcade room. I stopped her and she had the biggest smile on her face. We ended up talking at the outdoor patio for a good 2 hours, she didn't ask for any drinks, and we were making out a lot. She quoted me are $1500 and when I countered with are $1000, she just got up and left LOL. Absolutely insane that you can have great chemistry one minute but then it all goes to shit once you lowball these girls even slightly lmao. I thought the going rate at Scandallo was are $1000-are $1200.am I doing something wrong? I don't think I am. I left the club at 1 am to go to Casarao one last time. I could not walk in there, it was jam packed wall to wall. I decided to go downstairs to check out the other bar + lounge area. Lots of girls to choose from. I ended up taking this black chick that looked like Rihanna with her hair. She quoted me are $700/ hour and wouldn't budge. I said ok that's fine but you let me cum on your face and swallow all of it. She happily obliged. My flight was early Friday morning so I went back at 3 am to pack for tomorrow.
For my next trip, I'm probably just going to stick to Casarao and check out some other small boates. There are too many scams at Scandallo and the vibe just isn't there. Don't get me wrong, the girls are very hot and I would love to fuck them but I won't disrespect myself by paying more than the going rate. Definitely going to focus on learning more Portuguese and plan to come back sometime around November, maybe during Formula 1 weekend who knows. I am open to any tips / tricks you guys might have for my next trip. I definitely will be back, there's no question. Can't go out like that.
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CASARAO Sunday A BUST
I guess the girls stay home on Sunday. If you are not picky then theres enough for you to have snatch something up. I am here for two and half weeks so I took a lost for a better gain today. Interesting observation. You don't need to dress up when you come to sao paulo. It's a very casual dress environment. The music sucks be prepared for that. All you need is the willingness to pay $90 or more and you are an instant star with the ladies. Since I am a boss theres more questions. Sunday options besides casarao? Does casarao pick back up on Monday?
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[QUOTE=Tyrese1;2993765]Quoted me are $2000.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I just realized the formatting for the quotes isn't right. For the numbers, it should be like "are $2000" or "2000 reais" just FYI.
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Bosses
[QUOTE=Blakman;2993846]I guess the girls stay home on Sunday. If you are not picky then theres enough for you to have snatch something up. I am here for two and half weeks so I took a lost for a better gain today. Interesting observation. You don't need to dress up when you come to sao paulo. It's a very casual dress environment. The music sucks be prepared for that. All you need is the willingness to pay $90 or more and you are an instant star with the ladies. Since I am a boss theres more questions. Sunday options besides casarao? Does casarao pick back up on Monday?[/QUOTE]They don't ask questions. They take charge.
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Newbies
[QUOTE=Tyrese1;2993765]For my next trip, I'm probably just going to stick to Casarao and check out some other small boates. There are too many scams at Scandallo and the vibe just isn't there. Don't get me wrong, the girls are very hot and I would love to fuck them but I won't disrespect myself by paying more than the going rate. Definitely going to focus on learning more Portuguese and plan to come back sometime around November, maybe during Formula 1 weekend who knows. I am open to any tips / tricks you guys might have for my next trip. I definitely will be back, there's no question. Can't go out like that.[/QUOTE]Man it's painful to read how you guys are royally fucking up and coming to the wrong conclusions. Nothing resembling a "scam" has ever happened to me at Scandallo, and I never paid a tute there a "demand tip" just because she asked for one (rare for them to ask too). And for security to be on their side? Something isn't adding up and passing the smell test here. I have not read about so many rookie fuck ups in such a short period of time since I don't know when, including trying to tip someone with $3 USD (slaps forehead). How incredibly uninformed! Anyway "scam" def is not a word I would use to describe the atmosphere at Scandallo. I don't know what it was you were doing wrong, but it was something. I've been around the world and back and know Scandallo is no place to be avoided. If one has the coin then one needs to go. Because it's the baddest puta palace on the planet!
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Nope and Nope
[QUOTE=JB238;2993739]Thanks Steve (again!) - so you've had no issues going to Scandello etc via taxi, then having issues with the club because the taxi driver goes in asking for his cut?[/QUOTE]You would never have any issue with a taxi driver if they take you where you ask.
Kickbacks happen (worldwide) when they redirect you somewhere else. Scandallo doesn't need a shady practice like this.
And when you call a taxi from Uber it's an Uber transaction. They have to be on their best behavior if they want to keep that gig.
You are def overthinking things and have nothing to worry about.
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Uber and Taxis
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2993894]You would never have any issue with a taxi driver if they take you where you ask.
Kickbacks happen (worldwide) when they redirect you somewhere else. Scandallo doesn't need a shady practice like this.
And when you call a taxi from Uber it's an Uber transaction. They have to be on their best behavior if they want to keep that gig.
You are def overthinking things and have nothing to worry about.[/QUOTE]I used Uber Black a lot during my last trip and it worked great. Reliable and inexpensive. I also used taxis as well with no problems and even had a taxi driver in Sampa who I put on retainer. Again willing to share his contact info by PM with anyone interested in a reliable, honest, English-speaking taxi driver in Sao Paulo.
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Tipping for hanging out
What tyrese1 experienced at Scandallo is disconcerting. I've never heard of anything like that happening anywhere in any country. Wondering what other people think. Is this a normal ocurrence? Or just a one off?
[QUOTE=Tyrese1;2993765]
Wednesday, 3/19.
Decided on this night to get a bottle + table at Scandallo. The place was even more packed than yesterday with dozens of girls walking past the red couch every few minutes. I invited a few girls over to my table to drink (big mistake) and chatted them up. We were all dancing and a few other guys asked if they could join in. I was fine with that because there was no way I'the be taking all of these girls to the room anyways. The waiter moved our party to the table on the side with the couches. There were 8 girls drinking with all of us but I had my eyes on 2 of them. I asked one of them how much and she said are $2000 again (LOL wtf) so I tried to negotiate her down to are $1500 and she didn't budge at all. This is where things started to get ugly. I told her to leave and she said she wanted a tip. I gave her are $50 bill and told her it was nice meeting her. She looked at me and said "baby, it's not enough. " Huh? She then said she wanted are $1000 for her and her friend spending time at my table. I said no but she refused to leave. I told one of the security guards the situation and he said to pay or else they would kick me out. What the actual fuck. I thought tipping culture wasn't that big in Brazil. Why would I give you almost $200 USD in tips just for you partying with me? The security guard said I had 5 minutes to give her the money. I just said whatever and gave them are $1000. The other girls wanted tips too but security escorted them from my table, thankfully. I had never had this happen to me before, I was disgusted by the whole situation. I went down to the reception to explain the whole situation but they said there's nothing they could do. I just paid for the are $300 consumption + bottle and got the fuck out of there. [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Tyrese1;2993765]This is where things started to get ugly. I told her to leave and she said she wanted a tip. I gave her are $50 bill and told her it was nice meeting her. She looked at me and said "baby, it's not enough. " Huh? She then said she wanted are $1000 for her and her friend spending time at my table. I said no but she refused to leave. I told one of the security guards the situation and he said to pay or else they would kick me out. What the actual fuck. I thought tipping culture wasn't that big in Brazil. Why would I give you almost $200 USD in tips just for you partying with me? The security guard said I had 5 minutes to give her the money. I just said whatever and gave them are $1000. [/QUOTE]I've been to Scandallo quite a few times and have never had this type of experience. This "security guard" that told you to pay or get kicked out was likely close friends with the girl or something. What you should've done is said "okay I'll leave" and then go to the lobby where you pay before leaving and asked to speak with an english speaking employee (they have at least a few there usually). If you explain that you never discussed paying these girls before they came and danced or partyed at your table and their now asking for 1000 then they would contact the manager on duty and explain your situation to them and manager would likely be on your side. The security guard would likely be in trouble and lose his job for this type of shakedown as well.
My last trip to Scandallo, I encountered an unfortunate situation with a girl and I asked to speak with an English speaking person as my Portugese is average at-best. They brought a security guy that speaks good english and I explained my situation to him. He then called the manager that was working at the time and explained my situation to him in Portugese and they made things right with me. Excellent customer service.
This is a business. They want you to keep coming back so they can take your money. You're far more valuable to them than the girls. As long as it's within reason, they will be on your side.
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My brother you didn't get scammed / that's the game / dynamics
I think I stated this in previous post. The game is to Get you up to the room priority #1, get you to buy drinks, food upsell for the establishment #2, have you pay for their time #3. Everything is about getting your money. Players hustle the girls, they don't get hustled. My favorite response is maybe later. The only way to catch them off guard is an amazing fuck and unique gesture. And still that's only going to last if you send money when you are back in the states.
[QUOTE=Tyrese1;2993765]I just got back recently from So Paulo and my first ever trip to Brazil. It was not a good trip. I definitely made some mistakes but now I know what I need to work on so that my next trip to SP is even better.
Tuesday, 3/18.
Before this day, I just spent the first few days sight seeing and checking out all the tourist spots. The food was really good too, definitely better than Colombian food that's for sure. I noticed that the people in Brazil will greet you more often than other countries I've been to. A simple "bom DIA" or "boa tarde" was heard multiple times a day. That would never happen in the States or even in Mexico. On Tuesday, I get to Scandallo at 6 pm to make sure I beat the $100 cover few after 7. I saw about 30-40 girls and the club wasn't open yet, just the restaurant and a small section of the outdoor patio. I go to the bar to order a cocktail and just chill for a bit, scope out the talent. I learned quickly that the girls aren't allowed to use their phones while working, which was refreshing to see. However, many of them were just standing around the bar / restaurant waiting for guys to approach them. I guess this may be different in Brazil but the strip clubs I've been to in Mexico and Colombia the girls pounce on you as soon as you walk in. It's whatever though. I finish my drink then order dinner. Got some fish with rice and salad, and it was very good..[/QUOTE]
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Reasonable Expectations
[QUOTE=Trojan22;2993916]I've been to Scandallo quite a few times and have never had this type of experience. This "security guard" that told you to pay or get kicked out was likely close friends with the girl or something. What you should've done is said "okay I'll leave" and then go to the lobby where you pay before leaving and asked to speak with an english speaking employee (they have at least a few there usually). If you explain that you never discussed paying these girls before they came and danced or partyed at your table and their now asking for 1000 then they would contact the manager on duty and explain your situation to them and manager would likely be on your side. The security guard would likely be in trouble and lose his job for this type of shakedown as well.
My last trip to Scandallo, I encountered an unfortunate situation with a girl and I asked to speak with an English speaking person as my Portugese is average at-best. They brought a security guy that speaks good english and I explained my situation to him. He then called the manager that was working at the time and explained my situation to him in Portugese and they made things right with me. Excellent customer service.
This is a business. They want you to keep coming back so they can take your money. You're far more valuable to them than the girls. As long as it's within reason, they will be on your side.[/QUOTE]This I think is good advice. And likewise I have never had a problem. Maybe it's my boyish good looks 😂 but I've also never had anything above 1200 proposed to me. I do think the "hangout for 2-3 hours" tho is unrealistic. I'the say 1/2 hour is more the norm. If they are hanging with you for two hours and you don't take them then yeah I think I'the be pissed. I suppose if they are drinking like fish from your bottle it's a more even trade. But I wouldn't expect girls to hang for a few hours only to be dismissed. (I understand it was her offer that caused you to dismiss, but still).
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Sosua many times
There's been guys who will chat and buy girls drinks at the bar for hrs and think its cool to leave the girl and moved on. Just to be surprised when that girl demands to be paid for her time. If he doesn't pay she gets loud security comes in and always choose the girls side cause she works for the establishment.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2993902]What tyrese1 experienced at Scandallo is disconcerting. I've never heard of anything like that happening anywhere in any country. Wondering what other people think. Is this a normal ocurrence? Or just a one off?[/QUOTE]
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Not a fan of atm / fees
The amount registered on my credit card account so its confirmed as safe. As you stated there was an extra 26 brl added to her amount. Will do the cambio exchange which also loses 30 brl per 100 us dollars. But thanks for the response. I have multiple options now.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2993749]I'm sure you noticed by now that US dollars are not commonly used in Brazil. Most guys withdraw Reals from bank ATMs which is very safe and gets close to market exchange rates. Boates usually allow you to charge the girl cost with an extra charge of 10%. Money issues have discussed numerous times on this forum, which you can search for.[/QUOTE]
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Experienced Knowledge
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2993929]This I think is good advice. And likewise I have never had a problem. Maybe it's my boyish good looks 😂 but I've also never had anything above 1200 proposed to me. I do think the "hangout for 2-3 hours" tho is unrealistic. I'the say 1/2 hour is more the norm. If they are hanging with you for two hours and you don't take them then yeah I think I'the be pissed. I suppose if they are drinking like fish from your bottle it's a more even trade. But I wouldn't expect girls to hang for a few hours only to be dismissed. (I understand it was her offer that caused you to dismiss, but still).[/QUOTE]During my last trip most of the girls at Scandallo were asking for 1,500. A few asked for 2,000. And one asked for a ridiculous 3,000! And yeah we have to keep in mind that [B]the girls are there to make money[/B]. This isn't like sitting around and hanging out at a "normal" club. So, if you keep their attention for a long time and then don't session, yes they're going to be annoyed at least, and rightly so. In my view, even holding a girl around for 30 minutes is too long. At the 15 minute mark max fish or cut bait. Don't hog a girl's time if you're not going to take her. At the same time, don't let a girl you don't want try to drop anchor on you either. But just remember. The girls are there to make money. They do that by fucking, not by sitting there wasting their time (time is money) gabbing and drinking with you!
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[QUOTE=Tyrese1;2993765]It was not a good trip. I definitely made some mistakes [/QUOTE]You did make mistakes according to bubba guide. When the girls invested time with you, their expectation is raised. I would only spend time with the girl I definitely would take if we can agree everything. Or I will make it clear that I won't take her to the room if she wants to stay. When girls approach me in the restaurant, I always refuse them, and sometimes I would ask their rate to get an idea of current pricing. I only asked her rate because she approached me. One gets some free passes when the girls approach. I don't approach the girl to take up her time that I have no interest taking. This applies to you inviting girl to your table. They could have invested on another guy and possible go to the room, instead of you. That is a fair ask for being compensated if this is a business. Having said that, what happened to you is unusual in the past. The owner told the girls to charge much more so I am not surprised what the security did. It's just business and they are going to take as much money from their guests when they can.
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[QUOTE=Kazeu;2993902]What tyrese1 experienced at Scandallo is disconcerting. I've never heard of anything like that happening anywhere in any country. Wondering what other people think. Is this a normal ocurrence? Or just a one off?[/QUOTE]It's on the extreme side but I am not surprised. It would get ugly if you kiss a girl or make out with her there and don't take her. That is the normal case. But if you are a known local, they don't seem to have these problems based on what I saw.
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Fee Avoidance
[QUOTE=Blakman;2993932]The amount registered on my credit card account so its confirmed as safe. As you stated there was an extra 26 brl added to her amount. Will do the cambio exchange which also loses 30 brl per 100 us dollars. But thanks for the response. I have multiple options now.[/QUOTE]I also hate ATM fees and don't pay them. As has been recommended many times, get a debit or credit card that refunds any ATM fees you incur. That will give you even more options. A Schwab checking account with debit card is a popular choice. You have to have an investment account with them as well, but I keep just a small amount of money in that account as I have my major investments elsewhere, and I make use of the debit card to pull money when I'm on an overseas trip. Schwab refunds any and all ATM fees I incur once a month at the end of the month.
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[QUOTE=Blakman;2993930]There's been guys who will chat and buy girls drinks at the bar for hrs and think its cool to leave the girl and moved on. Just to be surprised when that girl demands to be paid for her time. If he doesn't pay she gets loud security comes in and always choose the girls side cause she works for the establishment.[/QUOTE]
Nothing like that has ever happened to me and I've been quite a few places. On the other hand, I'm not a chatter really. I have more trouble getting rid of girls than getting them to stay. But if I don't tell you I'm going to pay you for something don't expect that I'm going to give you any money for it. A tip is a tip because its optional. An agreement is not optional. In tyreses case, there was no agreement. She could have said no and left at any point in time. What's to prevent the girl from saying no, 1000 isn't enough it should be 3000 for me sitting here. Nothing. What if the guy intended to take her to a room but at the end she qoutes something too high. Does he still owe her money? No. I don't owe you anything unless I say I owe you something. Best to discourage this type of behavior.
I understand that the girls make money from sex. Then go have sex. Stop sitting around drinking and partying.
I'm much more of a rules based guy. You agree to pay the cover. You agree to pay for drinks. Its explicit. I hate this, I spent this time with you, so you owe me shit. I owe you nothing. My time is 100 times more valuable than yours.
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[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2993688]Can you share the names of the attendants that spoke English? And What's the name of the one that stole your money?[/QUOTE]It's Yankin.
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Complicity
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2993946]I understand that the girls make money from sex. Then go have sex. Stop sitting around drinking and partying.[/QUOTE]This is a good point. The girls have some complicity in what's going down too. I mean nobody is holding them hostage. But I take charge of the situation to avoid these kinds of problems. If I know I'm not going to session with someone I will diplomatically let them know that sooner rather than later. I might say, "I know you're here to make money, so if you want to leave I understand". Hint, hint! If they don't get the hint I will be more blunt. Sometimes I'm a bit restless and want to walk around some. So I might say, "Well it was really nice to meet you. I think I want to walk around a little bit". And I am able to easily and graciously extricate myself from the encounter that way. Sometimes a girl just won't get it and might press on asking for a drink. I might say, "Sorry, but it's too early for me now. I just want to sit and relax and be in my thoughts". Still not working? Then use a direct, firm "no" and surely she will get the signal then LOL! I never say "maybe later" when I know there is zero chance because a persistent girl will just try again. No, if there is no chance, then you must get rid of them leaving them with no hope. In most cases you can do that nicely. I've never had a Brazilian girl ask me an angry "why", unlike some girls in Europe have. If and when that happens I get angry right back with a, "[B]Because I said so[/B]"!
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[QUOTE=Kazeu;2993946]Nothing like that has ever happened to me and I've been quite a few places. On the other hand, I'm not a chatter really. I have more trouble getting rid of girls than getting them to stay. But if I don't tell you I'm going to pay you for something don't expect that I'm going to give you any money for it. A tip is a tip because its optional. An agreement is not optional. In tyreses case, there was no agreement. She could have said no and left at any point in time. What's to prevent the girl from saying no, 1000 isn't enough it should be 3000 for me sitting here. Nothing. What if the guy intended to take her to a room but at the end she qoutes something too high. Does he still owe her money? No. I don't owe you anything unless I say I owe you something. Best to discourage this type of behavior.
I understand that the girls make money from sex. Then go have sex. Stop sitting around drinking and partying.
I'm much more of a rules based guy. You agree to pay the cover. You agree to pay for drinks. Its explicit. I hate this, I spent this time with you, so you owe me shit. I owe you nothing. My time is 100 times more valuable than yours.[/QUOTE]Thank you for saying this. Seriously, what the fuck is this bullshit they pulling? If you don't want to risk guys wasting your time by partying / drinking with you, then get off of your ass and go approach guys asking them to go to the room. I don't owe you any tip for staying with me, it's your choice if you decide to stay or not. You could have left at any time and I would have not cared. It's not my fault that you Scandallo girls don't make any money off of drinks. Maybe they should start getting a cut from drinks (literally all the clubs in Mexico and Colombia do this to avoid guys wasting the girls' time). There is some serious GPS (golden pussy syndrome) in Scandallo LOL the girls don't smile at you, they don't look very approachable, etc. Like why are you even working there if you don't want to be there? I am sure you don't need this job at all so just quit.
Also, it's laughable that these girls are charging 2000 or 3000 reais (350-$550 USD) for an hour. Those are US and European prices. Are we in the US or Europe? No. So why even bother quoting that silly number. Know your place in this world and quote a reasonable rate. Your pussy ain't that much better than US and European girls I promise you. I don't want to feel like I'm at an American strip club all over again. I come to Brazil for cheap sex. Yes, these girls are very hot but so are Mexican and Colombian escorts on the website La Boutique VIP. I can fuck those girls for around $200 USD / hour and they are just as hot as Scandallo girls. This is very poor understanding of supply / demand from the girls. The reason most of them go home without making any money is because they have the mentality they are a working girl in the US or Europe. YOU ARE NOT WORKING THERE. You are in Brazil. $200-$300 USD / hour can easily pay your bills and help you live a good life but you choose to act like a greedy brat lmao I can't, man.
But yeah going back to what I said about tips: if I choose to tip you, that should be my decision and not yours. There is a reason restaurants and other businesses leave the tip option on the bill but don't force you to tip. It's because that is bad business to ask for it. Let the client decide whether he wants to tip or not. If you don't like guys wasting your time that could be made having sex and making money, then just quit Scandallo and become an escort. Problem solved.
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[QUOTE=Tyrese1;2993765]I just got back recently from So Paulo and my first ever trip to Brazil. It was not a good trip. I definitely made some mistakes but now I know what I need to work on so that my next trip to SP is even better.
[/QUOTE]Lots of rookie mistakes but these can be fixed for your next trip.
1) Don't spend too much time with the girls if you aren't interested in them. 100% guarantee that they aren't going to go home with you for free just because you bought drinks for them.
2) don't argue with the girls or security. Talk directly to a manager. Ask the waiter to get him for you. The manager will sort it out and it is usually in your favor unless you get violent.
3) Learn to negotiate better. Always take 50% of their asking price as a counter to their offer. If she walks. She walks. If she is still hesitant, add R200 to your price and say it as a final price if you like her.
4) Talk to many girls as possible before making a decision. I always make sure to talk to at least 5-7 girls before deciding on which one unless one of them agrees to my price and what I want to do.
5) The bottle is a smart move. Make sure it is gin since almost all the girls drink gin tropical and don't share with other random guys. Only share with the girl you are talking to. If she doesn't agree to your price, she can leave without a tip since she was drinking with you. A max of 2-3 drinks per girl before you make your decision.
F1 is a crazy time to be in So Paulo and in Scandello. I wouldn't go but others enjoy the craziness.
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F1 and NFL scandallo
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2993967]Lots of rookie mistakes but these can be fixed for your next trip.
1) Don't spend too much time with the girls if you aren't interested in them. 100% guarantee that they aren't going to go home with you for free just because you bought drinks for them.
2) don't argue with the girls or security. Talk directly to a manager. Ask the waiter to get him for you
F1 is a crazy time to be in So Paulo and in Scandello. I wouldn't go but others enjoy the craziness.[/QUOTE]These are all excellent points. During F1 week the garotas prices double & triple for average garota. Last year NFL in sao Paulo, the average scandallo garotas were streaming in from all of brasil, they were asking 2. 5!mil ,3 mil and 4 mil for an hour session upstairs. Bros first time to brasil, went nuts like the old days of help or 4 x4, with no porto (except google translate) they resorted to paying like ballers. F1 week same deal, average garotas asking price 2. 5 mil to 3 mil, scandallo did a special F1 deal to open the club on Sunday. Look for F1 weekend and NFL week promotion on scandallo instagram account.
The asking price is a premium during NFL and F1 weekend. Also weird WTF moment during NFL week was a whole bunch a sistas from philly in scandallo. They were giving brothers the evil eye for hooking up with all those fine ass big bunda loria brancas. Kkkk security eventually move their asses to the back patio corner table. Security had a hard time understanding hood slang, I helped move the group the fvck out the main room, and then I went back to my threesome garotas upstairs at the DJ booth.
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Pricing Scandallo
Are you guys really paying almost 250 USD per hour for pussy in Scandallo?? That must be inflated gringo prices! I'm soon coming to Brazil and do not expect to pay that muchwhat is the normal going rate for experienced guys and did you manage to find anyone below 1000 r reais per hour. I would prefer to collect numbers and meet.
Them in my hotel later on for less. What do you normally pay them for all nighters? I read prices are much lower in the clinicas.
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Kazeu don't take this the wrong way
Your personality and thinking is the prime traits that end up the predicament being discussed. You fail to understand you are not in the states or europe where fairness is more available. You are on a different battlefield where you are the prey and source of income. They take your failure to fall back, deescalate and use that to there advantage to strip you of your money. Thats exactly what happened to this guy. Luck has been on your side but I won't say smarts.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2993946]Nothing like that has ever happened to me and I've been quite a few places. On the other hand, I'm not a chatter really. I have more trouble getting rid of girls than getting them to stay. But if I don't tell you I'm going to pay you for something don't expect that I'm going to give you any money for it. A tip is a tip because its optional. An agreement is not optional. In tyreses case, there was no agreement. She could have said no and left at any point in time. What's to prevent the girl from saying no, 1000 isn't enough it should be 3000 for me sitting here. Nothing. What if the guy intended to take her to a room but at the end she qoutes something too high. Does he still owe her money? No. I don't owe you anything unless I say I owe you something. Best to discourage this type of behavior.
I understand that the girls make money from sex. Then go have sex. Stop sitting around drinking and partying.
I'm much more of a rules based guy. You agree to pay the cover. You agree to pay for drinks. Its explicit. I hate this, I spent this time with you, so you owe me shit. I owe you nothing. My time is 100 times more valuable than yours.[/QUOTE].
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Visit to 57 house of friends
Day time about 3 pm. About 4 girls, no stars but decent girls, shape. Owner said more come later. A guy that is a fixture there it seems insisted buying me a drink and gave me scoop on a few. English speaking black girl was sweet and aggressive so I chose her. Our session was very very intense and used up the full 1 HR as it ended with the phone ringing. The girl answered and mentioned time needed to shower. Which we did and it seem she wanted more but I was focus on not being charge extra. She was all smiles and as we stepped in the hallway the clean up lady was all smiles as well. I guess she heard alot LOL. She walked me to the front desk and I was shocked to see my bill 608. Quickly I ask what made the charges so high. So the guy who insisted to buy me a drink. They tried to charge me for those drinks. The shower me and the girl took after sex. They tried to say we were in the room hour 15 minutes. I challenged each addition and the guy confirmed he ordered the drinks and the girl came to my defense and said we were only in the room 1 HR. The charge dropped to 330 brl. Gave the girl a 30 brl tip and jump in a uber. So spas. Yankin no, tangara maybe, 57 house okay.
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With no disrespect intended, let me offer my take.
[QUOTE=Tyrese1;2993765] This is where things started to get ugly. I told her to leave ... [/QUOTE]Actually telling her to leave your table -- after you yourself had invited her there -- was confrontational and humiliating to her. This is why the bouncer took her side. The right move was simply to switch your attention to another girl at the table and maybe get another bottle. The first girl would have probably left on her own -- or stayed and might have even agreed to your price later.
[QUOTE=Tyrese1;2993765] before 7 pm ... Chatted her up for a bit, she told me it was only her 2nd day working here ... I just told her are $1000 and let's go to the room [/QUOTE]Bingo -- this is one good way to do it especially if budget is a factor.
If you are acting like a high roller, getting tables and inviting half a dozen girls to join you, they reasonably expect that 2 k for upstairs would not be a problem, especially after they spent 2-3 valuable / peak hours entertaining you at your table.
It's not a regular club so you can't expect a prostitute working at Scandallo to spend two hours to entertain you for free. In Asia, men pay per drink or per hour to sit with a girl whereas in upscale boites they create an illusion that it's organic like a real club, but she still needs money to pay her rent.
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[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;2993986]Are you guys really paying almost 250 USD per hour for pussy in Scandallo?? That must be inflated gringo prices![/QUOTE]Locals pay that price too. The sudden jump in price started around 2022 and 2023 on dating site first then Scandallo. We even have a theory for it. Take this and what other have said to form a better picture. All different observations can be right at the same time. One can make an negative observation at a high end clinica because he is given a small room and girl only provide CBJ. The other makes a positive observation because he is given a large room with a girl providing everything expected. One needs to take both points into account.
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Casarao
Looks like the talent is shrinking. Anyways made a quick decision on her girl. Her ass felt very naturally soft. Which convince me to overlook the breast. 500 brl was the damage plus 100 brl for the room. This was not the same experience I have had with other Brazilian girls. The kissing and affection was not there. The head game was there. But I pussy stunk. So much I never considered eating her. Haven't had that experience in awhile. Her breast was like a rock. And she kept grabbing my hand to touch them. She would accept cum in the face. I nutted on her titties. Gave her money and got the hell out of there. I was definitely going to return to Brazil cause the girl friend experience is insane. But I am also seeing the combination of uber, girls price, hotel, cambio not matching correct rates. These cost add up.
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[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;2993986]Are you guys really paying almost 250 USD per hour for pussy in Scandallo?? That must be inflated gringo prices! I'm soon coming to Brazil and do not expect to pay that muchwhat is the normal going rate for experienced guys and did you manage to find anyone below 1000 r reais per hour. I would prefer to collect numbers and meet.[/QUOTE]On my last trip, 3 weeks ago, I found girls who did 800/900 per hour.
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[QUOTE=Blakman;2993988]Your personality and thinking is the prime traits that end up the predicament being discussed. You fail to understand you are not in the states or europe where fairness is more available. You are on a different battlefield where you are the prey and source of income. They take your failure to fall back, deescalate and use that to there advantage to strip youof your money. Thats exactly what happened to this guy. Luck has been on your side but I won't say smarts.
.[/QUOTE]No offense taken. I'm not saying I would have punched her the face. But I also would not have paid 1000 R for nothing. I would have simply let the security escort me out. Or talked with the manager. She always has the option leave. Suppose there are 5 girls at the table, you going to give them all 1000 R? That's ridiculous. This was extortion plain and simple and shouldn't be allowed and the security guard, frankly should have been fired and the girl banned. I've been to countless of places in South America as well as asia, and never had anything like this happen to me. Imagine this, you let shit like this slide, and then girls start thinking oh, I don't even need to go to the room to make money. Girls just start pricing themselves out of ever going to the room, but stick around and hang out with clients and just demanding tips. Nah, don't accept it. Its bad for clients and bad for business.
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Are you guys out of your minds?? Why the hell should you pay without receiving any pussy in return?? Never pay them only for their time, she should just leave and was free to do so. Girls will now demand 1000 reais just for talking and hanging out. Thanks a lot.
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Your thoughts are rational but
Those girls work for Scandallo thoughout the year I suppose. My first trip so I am a novice. Your visit is more often just for a week. So your rational becomes irrational for the establishment cause the girl becomes priority. They (girl & security) had more to gain by extracting this guy 1000 brl than excusing the lady from the table. Its all about money And if you don't know well this guy knows now. Lots of lessons in the foreign sex game.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2994085]No offense taken. I'm not saying I would have punched her the face. But I also would not have paid 1000 R for nothing. I would have simply let the security escort me out. Or talked with the manager. She always has the option leave. Suppose there are 5 girls at the table, you going to give them all 1000 R? That's ridiculous. This was extortion plain and simple and shouldn't be allowed and the security guard, frankly should have been fired and the girl banned. I've been to countless of places in South America as well as asia, and never had anything like this happen to me. Imagine this, you let shit like this slide, and then girls start thinking oh, I don't even need to go to the room to make money. Girls just start pricing themselves out of ever going to the room, but stick around and hang out with clients and just demanding tips. Nah, don't accept it. Its bad for clients and bad for business.[/QUOTE]
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Lets agree to disagree here.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2994110]Those girls work for Scandallo thoughout the year I suppose. My first trip so I am a novice. Your visit is more often just for a week. So your rational becomes irrational for the establishment cause the girl becomes priority. They (girl & security) had more to gain by extracting this guy 1000 brl than excusing the lady from the table. Its all about money And if you don't know well this guy knows now. Lots of lessons in the foreign sex game.[/QUOTE]People come back to places they like. They don't go to places that have bad reputations. I'm pretty sure there are a lot less guys in Brazil willing to spend 1000 to 2000 R for an hour of sex than there are women in Brazil willing to sell themselves for 1000 R to 2000 R an hour. And of course its all about money. No doubt. You can have my money, but not for nothing. Like I said before this was extortion. Don't be so easy. I'm not saying start a fight, but stick up for yourself within reason, and this is definitely within reason.
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Salvador bahia / other towns the trade is cheaper
Sao Paulo prices are outrageous. Girls seem to want more to come to your apartment than sex at the club. I exchanged $200 and it was gone after 2 girls. Other countries that's definitely 3 or 4. Africa that's probably 4 threesome LOL. El centro colombia10 girls. The most reasonable priced is the low level spas and even they out price the norm in other countries. Scandallo I met quite a few girls from Salvador Bahia. They said nice beaches. Beautiful black girls. My question if I am allowed LOL. What states in Brazil you can travel to where you can get sex under $50. If they the women can travel to get more money, I wouldn't mind doing the same to pay less money LOL.
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This is the way
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2994085]I would have simply let the security escort me out. Or talked with the manager. [/QUOTE]Stand your ground and don't pay. Worst case scenario you'll be asked to leave but I doubt it since you're a tourist who got bottle service. And if they tell you to leave then you will leave with 1000 still in your pocket.
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[QUOTE=Blakman;2994131] What states in Brazil you can travel to where you can get sex under $50. [/QUOTE]For an hour, Rio Grande do Sul and maybe Rio but I am not certain of the price nowadays. There is basically nothing in Salvador. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Blakman;2994131]Sao Paulo prices are outrageous. Girls seem to want more to come to your apartment than sex at the club. I exchanged $200 and it was gone after 2 girls. Other countries that's definitely 3 or 4. Africa that's probably 4 threesome LOL. El centro colombia10 girls. The most reasonable priced is the low level spas and even they out price the norm in other countries. Scandallo I met quite a few girls from Salvador Bahia. They said nice beaches. Beautiful black girls. My question if I am allowed LOL. What states in Brazil you can travel to where you can get sex under $50. If they the women can travel to get more money, I wouldn't mind doing the same to pay less money LOL.[/QUOTE]Rio is probably a bit cheaper than Sao Paolo. There are some very cheap option in Sao Paolo as well. In rio you can look at Vill Mimosa and the centro prives. In Sao Paolo, there are the "trash" areas which are buildings of hookers. Go to gp-guia and have a look around.
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[QUOTE=Blakman;2994131]Sao Paulo prices are outrageous. Girls seem to want more to come to your apartment than sex at the club. I exchanged $200 and it was gone after 2 girls. Other countries that's definitely 3 or 4. Africa that's probably 4 threesome LOL. El centro colombia10 girls. The most reasonable priced is the low level spas and even they out price the norm in other countries. Scandallo I met quite a few girls from Salvador Bahia. They said nice beaches. Beautiful black girls. My question if I am allowed LOL. What states in Brazil you can travel to where you can get sex under $50. If they the women can travel to get more money, I wouldn't mind doing the same to pay less money LOL.[/QUOTE]
Am I correct in assuming that the girls who want to charge more to come to your apartment than have sex at the club might be the ones from Scandello whose phone numbers you got?
$50 is possible in Sao Paulo too you just got to know where to look. It is also possible and doable all over Brazil as long as you know the language and are willing to travel to the interior.
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[QUOTE=Blakman;2994131]Sao Paulo prices are outrageous. Girls seem to want more to come to your apartment than sex at the club. I exchanged $200 and it was gone after 2 girls. [/QUOTE]There are definitely cheaper in SP. Clinicas and boates are discussed most on this forum since that's the sweet spot for most guys who travel long distance to get to SP. You can have a quick fuck for $8 in a trash prive. Search for prive on the forum. I listed a bunch of them in a post a few month ago. It depends on your comfort level. On the higher end SP is not cheap, many girls across Brazil go to SP to work since they know they are earn more money.
I never gotten a scandallo girl to come to my apt for an 1 hour session for less than it would cost in the club. For multiple hours can get a better deal. Some guys on the forum have described some very good multi days deals.
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Swinger clubs.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2993672]
Questions: Girl from scandallo and girl from tangara ask me if I wanted to go to hot bar. Swinger club. I decline only because I wasn't sure about the price tag going in and also if there's a price tag for the girl going with me. Like what's in it for the girl to ask me to go.[/QUOTE]I asked a few garotas in Tangara and Yankin what they could tell me about the Swinger club scene in SP. About 90% were very enthusiastic about going, quotes varied between R$150 per hour plus drinks for 3 hours, R$500 for one visit without specified time limit, and R$1000 for a visit, all included a partner exchange option.
I went twice, paid R$500+Uber each time, all drinks within entry fee consumption limit, once to the Hot Bar and another time to Inner Club. Even though the partner exchange in both clubs never happened, mostly because of my very limited Portuguese skills, it was a fun experience, we found some interesting places to fuck with the ones I came with. Both times had a full GFE without even specifically asking for it. I was under the impression that both garotas really enjoyed the experience.
It makes sense for garotas because they don't share profits with the clinic, and R$500 per visit is probably on par or even more than they make during the daily shift at clinics. Never asked anyone at Scandallo, as the price would probably be insane.
If you decide to go, take a LOT of wet wipes with you. Be careful of those guys who come by themselves and want to join in on the action.
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[QUOTE=Blakman;2994131] What states in Brazil you can travel to where you can get sex under $50. If they the women can travel to get more money, I wouldn't mind doing the same to pay less money LOL.[/QUOTE]Look at photoacompanhantes dot com. It's true that some ladies who charge 800 at Scandallo work for 200-400 back home.
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Thanks for the response
I had 1 year in the united states where I explored a few times so yes I know about the single guy trying to take advantage. Based on the girl at tangara explanation was not sure of the benefit for me. Maybe my comprehension is lacking. But she mentioned the plus side would be that the couple entry fee is lot less than going single. She mentioned if we had sex it would be $200. I am like wait a minute. Did she mean Brl. Anyways she said the other option is travel together uber and leave together uber. My thinking is if I am not fycking you for free why would I need to leave with you. Its something I would have to think about. In the states the club was filled with mostly old unattractive women. Is it different in Brazil.
[QUOTE=Bliadun;2994206]I asked a few garotas in Tangara and Yankin what they could tell me about the Swinger club scene in SP. About 90% were very enthusiastic about going, quotes varied between R$150 per hour plus drinks for 3 hours, R$500 for one visit without specified time limit, and R$1000 for a visit, all included a partner exchange option.
I went twice, paid R$500+Uber each time, all drinks within entry fee consumption limit, once to the Hot Bar and another time to Inner Club. Even though the partner exchange in both clubs never happened, mostly because of my very limited Portuguese skills, it was a fun experience, we found some interesting places to fuck with the ones I came with. Both times had a full GFE without even specifically asking for it. I was under the impression that both garotas really enjoyed the experience.
It makes sense for garotas because they don't share profits with the clinic, and R$500 per visit is probably on par or even more than they make during the daily shift at clinics. Never asked anyone at Scandallo, as the price would probably be insane.
If you decide to go, take a LOT of wet wipes with you. Be careful of those guys who come by themselves and want to join in on the action.[/QUOTE].
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[QUOTE=Blakman;2994131]Sao Paulo prices are outrageous. Girls seem to want more to come to your apartment than sex at the club. I exchanged $200 and it was gone after 2 girls. Other countries that's definitely 3 or 4. Africa that's probably 4 threesome LOL. El centro colombia10 girls. [/QUOTE]At the other end of the scale, the hottest Brazilian girls get 1-2,000+ USD per hour in Dubai and at a couple of places in Europe. Which is why it's nearly impossible to find them at Scandallo nowadays.
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[QUOTE=JB238;2993739]Thanks Steve (again!) - so you've had no issues going to Scandello etc via taxi, then having issues with the club because the taxi driver goes in asking for his cut?[/QUOTE]Club pays taxi drivers R30 and it is not passed on to you.
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[QUOTE=Tyrese1;2993765]I just got back recently from So Paulo and my first ever trip to Brazil. It was not a good trip. I definitely made some mistakes but now I know what I need to work on so that my next trip to SP is even better.
[/QUOTE]Appreciate you sharing your trip details. Good luck next time.
[QUOTE=Tyrese1;2993765]
Wednesday, 3/19.
Decided on this night to get a bottle + table at Scandallo. The place was even more packed than yesterday with dozens of girls walking past the red couch every few minutes. I invited a few girls over to my table to drink (big mistake) and chatted them up. We were all dancing and a few other guys asked if they could join in. I was fine with that because there was no way I'the be taking all of these girls to the room anyways. The waiter moved our party to the table on the side with the couches. There were 8 girls drinking with all of us but I had my eyes on 2 of them. I asked one of them how much and she said are $2000 again (LOL wtf) so I tried to negotiate her down to are $1500 and she didn't budge at all. This is where things started to get ugly. I told her to leave and she said she wanted a tip. I gave her are $50 bill and told her it was nice meeting her. She looked at me and said "baby, it's not enough. " Huh? She then said she wanted are $1000 for her and her friend spending time at my table. I said no but she refused to leave. I told one of the security guards the situation and he said to pay or else they would kick me out. What the actual fuck. I thought tipping culture wasn't that big in Brazil. Why would I give you almost $200 USD in tips just for you partying with me? The security guard said I had 5 minutes to give her the money. I just said whatever and gave them are $1000. The other girls wanted tips too but security escorted them from my table, thankfully. I had never had this happen to me before, I was disgusted by the whole situation. I went down to the reception to explain the whole situation but they said there's nothing they could do. I just paid for the are $300 consumption + bottle and got the fuck out of there. Went to Casarao and had a few nice sessions, are $500 each for an hour. I could have negotiated down to are $350 but I just wanted to fuck and get all this stress out of my system. After I was done, I went home around 4 am.
[/QUOTE]Something is amiss here. This is unlike the way I know Scandallo management treats their customers. I ran into issues with girls and with billing few times. Each time Scandallo crew voluntarily managed to bring an English-speaking employee to bridge the communication gap and resolved the issue fairly to my satisfaction. I am having hard time believing a girl was able to demand R1000 just for hanging out with you for some time (not sure how long). Even if some crazy bit*h asks for such sum, some Scandallo employee forcing you to pay and you ended up paying is even crazier. I personally would never pay a girl any amount as tip for social time if the request comes in the form of a demand. I am puzzled why anyone else from management got involved except the security for a non-violent issue. It is interesting that you chose to visit a place that shafted you for $200 the very next day.
Do you mind letting us know who that girl was?
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Casarao nice talent tonight
So its possible Sunday and Monday is Casarao slow nights. Tuesday had its typical plethora and variety of girls. I chose a tall Italian looking chick. She allowed me to pay her in usa dollars. She was okay with 400 and we did the conversion to $70. At first she had me worried cause I gave her the money and she said she had to go to the front desk. I was about to say not with my money when she reached into her purse and took out the money. She gave a nice quick blow job. I guess trying to speed up things in her favor. So I decided to get a little authoritative and suggest she suck some more and position her to look in my eyes. So I got more head from that. I continue directing the show. Started eating that white pyssy. The way she was acting I new I had her. So I stop licking and got on top and shove my dick in her mouth. Forcing a gradual deep throat. No resistance from her. So I directed some more and had her postion for doggy. I kept slapping her ass. Grabbed her by the throat while hitting from the back. I was in my porn mode LOL. She was loving it. I don't know Portuguese so I spoke Spanish. I said te gusta te gusta. She screamed out mucho mucho mucho. I feel girls need to pay me for sex the way how they act when I fyck them. Anyways switch to missionary. Fucked for a bit then took off the condom cause I wasn't cumming. She began jerking it off and did a great job, but my dick is more use to my hand LOL. So I began jerking off in front of her mouth and it turn me on that she had no objection so I splashed off with a loud roar. Can't helped the loudness and she laughed, we both laughed. I was pleased cause I only paid 400 and in usa dollars. 5. 7 instead of cambio 5. 4. I wentbback in casarao and wanted to bang 2 other girls. But at 60 year old don't have it anymore. Few girls I chatted up quoted 800 and 700 brl. I thought the max was 600 at casarao.
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Brazil MUSIC / DANCING
Is it just me. But the music is so bad. It's like they are stuck in the John travolta days. You rarely hear any new hot songs and the dancing is even worst. Been to few continents. Hands down the worst when it comes to music entertainment but #1 in girl friendly experience.
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Visiting SP 4/7 - 4/11
I will be in Sao Paulo starting Monday 4/7 , please message me if anyone is interested to meet at some of the fine establishments like Scandallo or Bomboa.
Thanks Georges P.
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[QUOTE=Tyrese1;2993765]I just got back recently from So Paulo and my first ever trip to Brazil. It was not a good trip. I definitely made some mistakes but now I know what I need to work on so that my next trip to SP is even better.
[/QUOTE]Really sorry to hear your trip was a bust. I've been to Scandallo several times over 2 separate trips, and having "worked" all over the world, Scandallo still remains one of my favorite satellite offices. I've personally found the both the talent and quality of experience second to none- though I haven't had the type of run-in you're describing. Perhaps it had something to do with the bottle service and how it affects the expectations from the girls? Forgive me but I've never done such a thing before outside of a more traditional experience in Vegas, so I'm curious about others' experiences in buying a bottle and posting up like so.
In my experience- and others whom I've spoken to separately- most girls will leave the club and spend the night with you for between 400-500 usd, and while on the very high end of So Paulo's offerings, it has been very well worth it. I've always thought that was one of the biggest advantages of a place like Scandallo- the fact that it is set up for you to "interview" potential employees before making an investment, rather than the European FKK system where the girls aren't really looking to spend much time talking and it's more of a crap shoot with regard to your takeaway.
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Strongly Disagree.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2994296]Is it just me. But the music is so bad. It's like they are stuck in the John travolta days. You rarely hear any new hot songs and the dancing is even worst. Been to few continents. Hands down the worst when it comes to music entertainment but #1 in girl friendly experience.[/QUOTE]When you get to learn more about Brazilian music, you'll discover more sophisticated music like Samba or Pagode. With intricate chord changes and melodies.
The thing I enjoy the most about Brazil (after the girls of course) is the music, and that I get away from hip-hop and all that soulless music from the west these days.
I suspect you've only been listening to Brazilian Funk (Or "Funky" as they pronounce it).
You should have one of your girls educate you on real Brazlian music. And have her dance for you while at it.
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Great Observation
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2994239]Appreciate you sharing your trip details. Good luck next time.
Something is amiss here. This is unlike the way I know Scandallo management treats their customers. I ran into issues with girls and with billing few times. Each time Scandallo crew voluntarily managed to bring an English-speaking employee to bridge the communication gap and resolved the issue fairly to my satisfaction. I am having hard time believing a girl was able to demand R1000 just for hanging out with you for some time (not sure how long). Even if some crazy bit*h asks for such sum, some Scandallo employee forcing you to pay and you ended up paying is even crazier. I personally would never pay a girl any amount as tip for social time if the request comes in the form of a demand. I am puzzled why anyone else from management got involved except the security for a non-violent issue. It is interesting that you chose to visit a place that shafted you for $200 the very next day.
Do you mind letting us know who that girl was?[/QUOTE]I agree something's amiss with the story.
I find it hard to believe the security staff or management would do such a thing.
The girls know the establishment would never tolerate that kind of behavior from them.
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Kevin O Chris
[QUOTE=Messiah69;2994360]When you get to learn more about Brazilian music, you'll discover more sophisticated music like Samba or Pagode. With intricate chord changes and melodies.
The thing I enjoy the most about Brazil (after the girls of course) is the music, and that I get away from hip-hop and all that soulless music from the west these days.
I suspect you've only been listening to Brazilian Funk (Or "Funky" as they pronounce it).
You should have one of your girls educate you on real Brazlian music. And have her dance for you while at it.[/QUOTE]This popular artist and his crew were on my flight from Rio to Sampa. People were all excited and stuff and shaking hands at the gate. I felt like a fucking idiot in the middle of the mix shaking hands and not knowing who the people were (they were just walking up to people shaking hands). Saw "Kevin O Chris" t-shirts so Googled the name and discovered he is a huge "funkee" star in Brazil:
[URL]https://youtu.be/AqFeBEwFFA0?si=-6Lk3c3KDHsYSLid[/URL]
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They play their music when we have sex
I have not heard anything that triggers a lap dance LOL. Nothing like reggaeton or afrobeats. I just hear older pop music. Seems like they have no interest in the latest trends. I don't know its my first time. But I have had no problem adapting to other countries music. Even the sound system seems lacking. I have only been to Casarao its not a broad assessment.
[QUOTE=Messiah69;2994360]When you get to learn more about Brazilian music, you'll discover more sophisticated music like Samba or Pagode. With intricate chord changes and melodies.
The thing I enjoy the most about Brazil (after the girls of course) is the music, and that I get away from hip-hop and all that soulless music from the west these days.
I suspect you've only been listening to Brazilian Funk (Or "Funky" as they pronounce it).
You should have one of your girls educate you on real Brazlian music. And have her dance for you while at it.[/QUOTE].
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[QUOTE=Messiah69;2994363]I agree something's amiss with the story.
I find it hard to believe the security staff or management would do such a thing.
The girls know the establishment would never tolerate that kind of behavior from them.[/QUOTE]I am siding with the poster while agreeing Scandallo a classy establishment. Its an embarrassment but he still went back the next day. He also said he learned from mistakes. Regardless if it's truth or not, his post has merit. The girls can turn to sharks instantly.
He is alright in my book because he spent time to write his experience and contributed something. I am posting just so members don't stop posting.
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Brazilian music was on fire last night
Yesterday was the first time hearing Brazilian music with some reggaeton, hip hop, dance hall flaver. And it had the casarao girls gyrating and dancing naughty. The vibe was awesome. I got seduced and found myself a second time in the nearby hotel.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2994380]I have not heard anything that triggers a lap dance LOL. Nothing like reggaeton or afrobeats. I just hear older pop music. Seems like they have no interest in the latest trends. I don't know its my first time. But I have had no problem adapting to other countries music. Even the sound system seems lacking. I have only been to Casarao its not a broad assessment..[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Blakman;2994296]Is it just me. But the music is so bad. It's like they are stuck in the John travolta days. You rarely hear any new hot songs and the dancing is even worst. Been to few continents. Hands down the worst when it comes to music entertainment but #1 in girl friendly experience.[/QUOTE]It used to be otherwise. Samba and Axe music, some of the best in the world when it came to girls dancing (enticing hip motion). Bossa Nova too. I'm not sure the new Brazilian generation cares much for genuine Brazilian music any more. Only Rio's and Salvador's carnival are keeping it alive. It's a sign Brazilian Society is changing.
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Helpful link for newnbies likr myself
[URL]https://argentinaxp.com/en/blog/guia-escorts-turismo-sexual-sao-paulo/[/URL]
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[URL]https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nYnAzFn-eQdhcfZNSADOWyVrd7cbHp3z4&si=YuZU2Iy_K5NQSwZq[/URL]
39 minutes.
You should pace yourself to fuck your fav hoars bare for all 39 minutes.
1. 5 repetitions is an hour.
[QUOTE=Blakman;2994380]I have not heard anything that triggers a lap dance LOL. Nothing like reggaeton or afrobeats. I just hear older pop music. Seems like they have no interest in the latest trends. I don't know its my first time. But I have had no problem adapting to other countries music. Even the sound system seems lacking. I have only been to Casarao its not a broad assessment.
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I think i met my wife
There has to be a god watching over. This is so crazy. I ask this chick what's her price. She says 400 half hour then I said how much for hour she says 800. I say forget it. So last night I tell this chick I only have us dollars. I say that because paying us dollars you get best return. She says its ok. We get to the receptionist at the desk and she sees me pay with my credit and gets cute. Says you pay me with credit card. I said I told you I only have us dollars. So I translate to the lady at the desk to give me the room money back. She says you can get another girl and it will be free she will remember. I go back in and give the girl that quote 800 the eyes and grabbed her hands. She gave me a very warm reception. So I said 500 oral no condom, sex condom. She said yes. She explain that card would be charged 20 brl extra. I said lets go. We were kissing before we even left casarao. I mean the chemistry and vibe was awesome. She was so affectionate. Look so much better close up. Had a dominican mix. I got a massage, excellent blow job, she tossed my salad, talk dirty to me, let me leche in her mouth and was so sweet and naughty about everything. I might just fuck her for the rest of my trip. I am still in awe.
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[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2994603][URL]https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nYnAzFn-eQdhcfZNSADOWyVrd7cbHp3z4&si=YuZU2Iy_K5NQSwZq[/URL]
39 minutes.
You should pace yourself to fuck your fav hoars bare for all 39 minutes.
1. 5 repetitions is an hour.[/QUOTE]I always practice safe anal sex haha!
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Just another day in brasil
I went to Miruna Clinica in Moema in the morning and returned in the early afternoon. At the reception, Carol and Dorcas greeted me. They made me feel welcome, and I trust their recommendations when new garotas start.
She brings me whiskey with ice while I wait for the presentation. Met two very light skin morenas Paloma and Anna. Sessions with both of them for two hours. The first hour was BBBJTCIM. Anna swallowed the leche and kissed Paloma with the leche drizzling from the sides of her mouth. Both Garota's photos are on the miruna daily lineup. Anna is new to miruna. The next hour was more fun, both took turns slobbering out one more leche of satisfaction. Got a forista discount for writing a review on gp-guia. Where are all the fvcking Loria garotas in Abbobora? 57 Friends Chanes is picking up decent talent. Shit, Julia said no more gp-guia forista discounts. Damn.
Casarao & scandallo still going strong. Some garotas wear exactly the same outfits night after night, especially in casarso. I meet the usual two twenty year old brancas, wearing braces, no underwear, both pounced on me soon as I enter the doors, barely making it past the stripper stage. They know the program, deep, slow swallowing of leche in gulps, and cum burps for an hour. No spillage. Both puterias enjoy being pretty ass cum dumps and body lickers. Just another day in brasil.
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Connection club report
100 before 7 pm all consumption, after 7 pm 100 consumption + 100 entrance fee. I went on a Wednesday at 10 pm and there were about 25 girls at most. Only 3 were 7's, the rest were 6's and below. 1 of the 7's failed the interview for lying too much, the other two 7's looked bored, they didn't even bother making eye contact with me. It seemed like the going rate was 500/ HR. I didn't pick anyone, but I think they told me the room was 150 per hour. At 11:30 or midnight there was a live band. Overall, it was disappointing.
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Casarao, scandallo. Where else has as good a turn out
I have been to casarao every night as only 2 days it disappoints. Scandallo was nice but I am not entertaining their price. So what other club populates like casarao so to have other options. What other club have a good number of black girls. Need a change in routine. Even though each night I get a hot girl. And great performance.
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Other spots
[QUOTE=Blakman;2994968]I have been to casarao every night as only 2 days it disappoints. Scandallo was nice but I am not entertaining their price. So what other club populates like casarao so to have other options. What other club have a good number of black girls. Need a change in routine. Even though each night I get a hot girl. And great performance.[/QUOTE]Take your favorite garota to Love Cabaret, see fvcking cool sex show together, then go next door to andar de cima ertico motel.
Other late night casarso type spots.
Espao Vergueiro. Relax Adulto Rua Vergueiro, 170 - Liberdade.
57 Friends Club in Moema, Julia in reception speaks great English best time is evening 5-9 pm when clinicas garotas getting off of work. That is their happy hour hangout spot.
Clinica garotas and GND scandallo garotas are there.
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Balneario Camboriu/ Dark Chocolate
Was at Casarao Saturday night but didn't chose anyone. My bright side of looking at the night I saved $107 us currency. The highest average amount my history of mongering is about $70. I know others use the comparison of what p4 p cost in the United States but I don't pay for P4P in the united states. I don't do any of the stuff here I do in the United States that's why I travel abroad to be free and uninhibited. I been thirsting for dark, brown, colored, mulatto girl and Sunday I saw a new one I had to investigate. She had height, curves, thin waste. When I went up to her she didn't look as attractive as the other girls but when I felt her ass, I was like wow. So soft with a bump. Natural shit. Ole skool booty type. I quote 500. She said 550. I said let you know. I still wasn't sure cause again she wasn't as attractive as other girls. Moments later she left with a guy. So now I am ready to push her off till tomorrow. She comes back from her session and the guy walks her in. This signal to be she got good pyssy. But its not like me to knowingly do back to back. She spotted me and came right to me. Very affectionate, openly naughty. Brazil as taught me just say fuck it and do it. I think some joker told me that in a post. Anyways off we went, no line and into room. Immediate kissing, like we couldn't wait to get it on. Even though I want to begin the sexual act I was focus on the shower. Since she just came back from the room. The water was cold, turns out she didn't understand hot left cold right. So she wanted to switch room for hot shower. But couldn't find anyone. My sosua mentality is thinking she scamming for time. So I rinse of my dick so we can get the show on the road. Throw a pillow on the ground so she can comfortably get on her knees. She was great with the blow job, combination of sucking and stroking styles was very close to making me cum. She laid on the bed for missionary. Complexion, small, waist, nice hips. Slipped on the condom put it inside her. So warm and tight. I was like yes this was the right choice. She was full with me LOL, moans, and Portuguese sex talk I guess. We then switch to doggy and she would look back at me when I was hitting it. That was sexy. The clincher was her wanting to get on top. This position I don't do often, but damn she was good. And she went for hers. I took the condom off and gave her the task of sucking my leche into her mouth. I thought she had the skills to do it, but her best effort couldn't pull it off. So I jerk it.
Off I don't know if it got in her mouth cause my eyes closes at ejaculation LOL. But it definitely got on her face. I was pretty loud at that point. We both laugh, cuddle. I fixed the simple shower problem and we got into the nice hot water. She was playing with me like she wanted more but I am self conscious of going over my hour although it seems like casarao don't care at times.
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Pricing
[QUOTE=Tochka;2995157]
Other late night casarso type spots.
Espao Vergueiro. Relax Adulto Rua Vergueiro, 170 - Liberdade.
[/QUOTE]This place looks / sounds interesting. What's pricing like here please? (entry / girls / rooms).
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Google Espaço Vergueiro gp-guia
[QUOTE=JB238;2995412]This place looks / sounds interesting. What's pricing like here please? (entry / girls / rooms).[/QUOTE]Google .
Espao Vergueiro gp-guia.
All the info is there including reviews of garotas, pricing, and wassap. They are responsive on wassap.
I went there because of a skinny ass no bunda, very white pale, ghost pale, sexy redhead Garota from Scandalo. One night she left Scandallo at 1 am, we Uber over to Espaco Verguiero. She finished working out the night & drinking until 4 am (at 1/4 price of scandallo) kkkkkk.
While there we met up with another well-known Tangara / Yankin skinny pale redhead. She uses a red hair actress as her name. If ya know you know.
There are plenty of former Tangara, Yankin, Miruna, Prime Morena garotas in Casarao and 57 Friends, after a while you see same garotas sending invites to meet up at different places and newly opened spots.
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Us dollars to brazilian dollars
Personally I found western union to be a really good option. I am sure theres other good options.
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Casarao again / tall, beautiful, sex off the chain, few flaws
This girl was the first that I felt my 60 year old fit ass physically could not handle. I mean she just would not stop. What save me was a pee break. Earlier in the day Drunk lots of water so I would not dehydrate. She did everything excellent, she was best amongst lots of great performers. Her flaws was a slight smokers breath, and few cough cough issues. So I refrained from eating her pussy and limited the kissing. I noticed her last week. Week chatted briefly but she was snatched up repeatedly. Soon as I got in the club I noticed her, she notice me so I went to and said 500 oral no condom, sex condom. But my dick is not hard so I need you to get it hard. She got off the chair and went to work. Got it more than hard. We got in the room. She put on reggaeton. I was in heaven though I am starting to like the brazilian music more and more. Took a shower together and she started sucking right away. I wanted her to get on here knees. But she directed me to the bed. I thought I was paying LOL. But she went to work so I had no complaints. She then told me stay on my back and went into cowgirl position. Riding my dick in a variety of ways. Then she turned around to the normal ride on top. Did her thing in that position. Then she let me hit it doggy. That was good. Then missionary that was good. Then I jerked it off in front of her face to nut. Soon as I came she grabbed it and put in her mouth. My I let out a good roar. I was straight for the rest of the night. She was the best. If a slight smokers breath does not put you off. She's a must experience.
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Other cheaper nightclub
I have been to Brooklin club. It's a bar with maybe 10 girls. Very hit or miss. Fixed prices though and close to moema. I remember it's 300-400 r hour. Address: Av. Santo Amaro, 3388 - Brooklin.
Two I haven't been to yet. Bigger places but much further away. Prices seem to be also 300-400 r.
Muchachos Bar.
Are. Barão do Rio Branco, 962 - Santo Amaro.
Stop Night Club.
Av. Atlântica, 4655 - Interlagos, São Paulo.
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Casarao again / stuck on repeat
I was at Casarao again. Not because I wanted to. Just not given and good options that's not going to shred my pockets. Casarao was packed. I am not sure if it was national men's day but it was packed with men. I felt like I have seen the girls too many times. So I refrained from choosing. In fact went home about 2 am to get a nice night sleep. Utilizing the gym at my apartment and having fyck like 10 days straight. I don't see an urgency to toss away $107 us currency just to record a fyck. Struck up a conversation with a guy from Salvador Bahia, who promoted the state or city. Stating its a far vibrant city than Sao Paulo, with better music, beaches, and beautiful natural African black girls. Highly recommended going during carnival and noted that sex prices was about 100 to 200 brl. This guy says he only comes to Sao Paulo for business and Casarao is a very popular legendary boates that's why volume chics men and expensive price. I will be back on the grind but this site needs more stories like this as oppose to hearing about paying ridiculous prices. I love the city of Brazil though. Apartments are cheap with nice amenities. Food is cheap, uber is cheap. Wtf happen to p4 p. Anyway its still been a good vacation. With this revelation, more researching next time, use of tinder and other dating apps, hopefully I won't be paying $107 a night for sex again in Brazil LOL.
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[QUOTE=Blakman;2995382]but I am self conscious of going over my hour although it seems like casarao don't care at times.[/QUOTE]It used to be 60/30 minutes + 10 minutes for showering. Not sure if it is still the case now.
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Good enlightenment
Good info. I like to stay in hot for some extra time.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2995886]It used to be 60/30 minutes + 10 minutes for showering. Not sure if it is still the case now.[/QUOTE].
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Oral
[QUOTE=Blakman;2994667]There has to be a god watching over. This is so crazy. I ask this chick what's her price. She says 400 half hour then I said how much for hour she says 800. I say forget it. So last night I tell this chick I only have us dollars. I say that because paying us dollars you get best return. She says its ok. We get to the receptionist at the desk and she sees me pay with my credit and gets cute. Says you pay me with credit card. I said I told you I only have us dollars. So I translate to the lady at the desk to give me the room money back. She says you can get another girl and it will be free she will remember. I go back in and give the girl that quote 800 the eyes and grabbed her hands. She gave me a very warm reception. So I said 500 oral no condom, sex condom. She said yes. She explain that card would be charged 20 brl extra. I said lets go. We were kissing before we even left casarao. I mean the chemistry and vibe was awesome. She was so affectionate. Look so much better close up. Had a dominican mix. I got a massage, excellent blow job, she tossed my salad, talk dirty to me, let me leche in her mouth and was so sweet and naughty about everything. I might just fuck her for the rest of my trip. I am still in awe.[/QUOTE]Oral no condom is the default in BR. I don't think I have ever had oral with condom.
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Oral sex no comdom response
While at Casarao, I have had 3 out of maybe 15 women tell me they do not do oral sex without a condom. So what do you want me to do. Tell them dedekeke says sucking dick without condom is default. Its there right if they say so. To avoid the surprise, disappointment in the room. I get proactive and ask first. So I canhave an option to decline or approve if I want to take her to the room. Sometimes you have to get off the macho shit. And think to counteract modern day reality to avoid problems
[QUOTE=Dekedeke328;2995969]Oral no condom is the default in BR. I don't think I have ever had oral with condom.[/QUOTE].
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[QUOTE=Dekedeke328;2995969]Oral no condom is the default in BR. I don't think I have ever had oral with condom.[/QUOTE]This has been well discussed. Simply put, It depends on the venue. It is fine to assume that for Scandallo which is near 100%, but one is going to be very frustrated to assume that in Casarao which is less than 50% if you go with the flow. In Medellin, the percentage is very low in casas but almost 100% with Facebook girls. I have posted several of my adventures dealing with it in Brazil under that assumption
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Spot On
[QUOTE=Nounce;2996214]This has been well discussed. Simply put, It depends on the venue. It is fine to assume that for Scandallo which is near 100%, but one is going to be very frustrated to assume that in Casarao which is less than 50% if you go with the flow. In Medellin, the percentage is very low in casas but almost 100% with Facebook girls. I have posted several of my adventures dealing with it in Brazil under that assumption[/QUOTE]100% spot on. Standard bare at scandallo. Condom epidemic at Casarao. Not a problem if you confirm up front but if you don't you prob getting CBJ there.
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Well said shooting down 2 years ago advice lol
Theres always a joker that offers up two year old advice or statements unable to realize that things change over time.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2996219]100% spot on. Standard bare at scandallo. Condom epidemic at Casarao. Not a problem if you confirm up front but if you don't you prob getting CBJ there.[/QUOTE].
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Casarao was on fire Friday
Not on fire literally LOL. So many girls and the quality was outstanding. Previous day I wasn't feeling it so I decided save $107 us currency go home without getting action. But Friday I saw a newbie, never saw before and I went after it to confirm she look the part. But my freaking translator couldn't work so we could not communicate. Then I remembered forcestop the app and it started working. Asked if she had kids. She said no. Her ass felt good and youthful. I said get my dick hard we go. She started kissing me passionately. That sealed the deal for 400 brl 1 HR. We had the room with a stripper pole and some other gadgets. She exceeded my expectations body and performance wise. I had the energy of a 20 year old. Immediately after she said I like you I want to see you more times. Give me your number. I didn't want to say tomorrow will be my last day cause I wanted pics with her. I was happy with her, bit disappointed that my 60 year old ass only got one nut in me. So many girls I wanted a 2nd round. Met another girl from Salvador Bahia. I tell you next trip back Rio and Salvador Bahia going to entertain. I am going to get me same quality for cheaper. I loved my time here, going to miss it, I am already feeling emotional LOL. But I am going to figure out how to pay less for great quality next trip.
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How much to pay for private sessions outside the club
Do you guys have a rule of thumb for how much to pay a garota who you're seeing outside of Scandallo? E. g. If I pay 1200 for a session in the boate, I'the expect around 2500 for overnight. But if I text her the next day to come to my hotel for more of an open ended 2-3 hour session, should I pay 1200, more / less?
I'm in town for the week, DM me if anyone wants to hit Scan together.
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Meet in Sao Paolo
Hey, I am also in town.
If someone like to meet, I would be happy with company. Please send a pm.
Zoom, I can not reach you!
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Change
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2996219]100% spot on. Standard bare at scandallo. Condom epidemic at Casarao. Not a problem if you confirm up front but if you don't you prob getting CBJ there.[/QUOTE]Never had a CBJ in Brazil in two decades and never will. Things might change. But never that much. All you got to do is ask! And if you run across that rare one that's insistent (so rare in fact that I never have) then tell her to keep it moving. Definitely her loss.
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Last dance at Casarao / end of trip
My first night I met a girl at Scandallo who quoted me at 1000 brl. I took her number. We met again at Casarao where she quoted me 700 brl. I put her off, but decide I was going to end the trip with her if she agreed to 500 oral no condom which she agreed. We went to hotel and the guy gave us room 20. If you get that room change it. The bed sucks. She was great with oral, talking, freaky expression. At one point I was close to coming. When we switch to doggy I notice at times intentional positioning so you couldn't quite pound it. Kinda took away from complete enjoyment of fucking. Anyways since she was good at sucking I just decided to let her finish me off after going through all the fucking position. She had it going on, I enjoyed but she couldn't make me cum. So I jerk it off in front of her mouth and was certain with all the oral freaky gestures she was doing she would let me squirt all over. She blocked it with her hands which took away from the nut. So this girl got a mix review and I got mixed good and bad send off.
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Hotel near Casaro
Ran into this forum while researching on Brazil and would like to thank all of you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
I have not explored much out side USA except for few trips to Tijuana MX.
I am taking a 1st trip to Brazil next week for 9 days and plan on visiting São Paulo and Rio.
I have a quick question and hoping to get some help.
Anyone has any input on Moncloa hotel next to Casaro? Considering Casaro being the late night spot, I am thinking staying close by would avoid late night uber rides.
Is there a better alternative / suggestion? I am guessing hotels close to Casaro would be visitor friendly.
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Stay in Paulista
[QUOTE=Zulutango25;2996968]Ran into this forum while researching on Brazil and would like to thank all of you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
I have not explored much out side USA except for few trips to Tijuana MX.
I am taking a 1st trip to Brazil next week for 9 days and plan on visiting So Paulo and Rio.
I have a quick question and hoping to get some help.
Anyone has any input on Moncloa hotel next to Casaro? Considering Casaro being the late night spot, I am thinking staying close by would avoid late night uber rides.
Is there a better alternative / suggestion? I am guessing hotels close to Casaro would be visitor friendly.[/QUOTE]I don't know your budget but the area around Casarao isn't exactly where you want to stay. You can stay at a nice hotel in the paulista area and it's only 5 min uber to Casarao. Even if you stay farther away you don't go to casarao till 11 Pm earliest — so traffic isn't so bad.
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Moema area
Hi all,
I am visiting SP in April 16-20th and staying in Allure Moema hotel. First time I was in SP 15 years ago just for 2 days and in the first day somebody tried to rob us 10 minutes after we arrived to the center of the city, next to the opera house. They tried it second time in 5 minutes. We got scared and went to the hotel. Next day we hired a private guide and he showed us the city.
So, I am wondering how save is Moema area, especially in the night?
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[QUOTE=ZuluTango25;2996968]Ran into this forum while researching on Brazil and would like to thank all of you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
I have not explored much out side USA except for few trips to Tijuana MX.
I am taking a 1st trip to Brazil next week for 9 days and plan on visiting So Paulo and Rio.
I have a quick question and hoping to get some help.
Anyone has any input on Moncloa hotel next to Casaro? Considering Casaro being the late night spot, I am thinking staying close by would avoid late night uber rides.
Is there a better alternative / suggestion? I am guessing hotels close to Casaro would be visitor friendly.[/QUOTE]Ckeck hotels like Mercure Alamedas, close to av. Paulista. There's no hotel a stone's throw from Casarao and if you are a 10 minutes's walk from Casarao you don't walk there at night anyway.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2997099]Ckeck hotels like Mercure Alamedas, close to av. Paulista. There's no hotel a stone's throw from Casarao and if you are a 10 minutes's walk from Casarao you don't walk there at night anyway.[/QUOTE]Moving to EZ Aclimacao.
After seeing the street views of Augusta street, I decided to cancel my reservation at Moncloa.
Thank you for you input.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2997031]I don't know your budget but the area around Casarao isn't exactly where you want to stay. You can stay at a nice hotel in the paulista area and it's only 5 min uber to Casarao. Even if you stay farther away you don't go to casarao till 11 Pm earliest so traffic isn't so bad.[/QUOTE]Thank you Steve9696. Moving to Moema area. Thank you for your input.
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Sao Paulo Hotels and List
[QUOTE=Guest19;2997092]Hi all,
I am visiting SP in April 16-20th and staying in Allure Moema hotel. First time I was in SP 15 years ago just for 2 days and in the first day somebody tried to rob us 10 minutes after we arrived to the center of the city, next to the opera house. They tried it second time in 5 minutes. We got scared and went to the hotel. Next day we hired a private guide and he showed us the city.
So, I am wondering how save is Moema area, especially in the night?[/QUOTE]Check the Sao Paulo Hotels and List thread. Moema area including Allure, Mercure, Charlie, Wyndham, Tsue Palace, various airbnbs, have been reviewed about safety, price, guest friendly, noise, traffic, Uber, etc. Just read back through the many pages there. IMHO the main consideration for Moema is the fucking screaming jets taking at off 0600 am sharp and all day long. You can see the QR code on the bottom of the livery of GOL planes landing at CGH from almost any Moema Clinica. There are at least 10 to 12 clinicas, spas.
Ten minutes walking distance or short inexpensive uber rides to tangara, Scandallo, Casarao at night.
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Noise
[QUOTE=Tochka;2997241]Check the Sao Paulo Hotels and List thread. Moema area including Allure, Mercure, Charlie, Wyndham, Tsue Palace, various airbnbs, have been reviewed about safety, price, guest friendly, noise, traffic, Uber, etc. Just read back through the many pages there. IMHO the main consideration for Moema is the fucking screaming jets taking at off 0600 am sharp and all day long. You can see the QR code on the bottom of the livery of GOL planes landing at CGH from almost any Moema Clinica. There are at least 10 to 12 clinicas, spas.
Ten minutes walking distance or short inexpensive uber rides to tangara, Scandallo, Casarao at night.[/QUOTE]You can find hotels in Moema with little to no noise. The Mercure Times Square is one such hotel. I can personally vouch for it. But don't let anyone con you into staying at the Wyndham with claims of insulated windows! I stayed there during my last visit to Sampa, and it's directly in the flight path and noisy! Very convenient but don't stay there if you're a light sleeper or if jet airplane noise just bothers you. Otherwise the actual accommodation was fine, and Moema is extremely safe.
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[QUOTE=ZuluTango25;2996968]......I am taking a 1st trip to Brazil next week for 9 days and plan on visiting So Paulo and Rio........[/QUOTE]In that order? I don't know about that. I would do Rio first. You want to be at top strength to handle those Rio garotas.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2997248]You can find hotels in Moema with little to no noise. The Mercure Times Square is one such hotel. I can personally vouch for it. But don't let anyone con you into staying at the Wyndham with claims of insulated windows! I stayed there during my last visit to Sampa, and it's directly in the flight path and noisy! Very convenient but don't stay there if you're a light sleeper or if jet airplane noise just bothers you. Otherwise the actual accommodation was fine, and Moema is extremely safe.[/QUOTE]Plus every Mercure I've stayed in (4 or 5) is girl friendly. They don't bat an eye. No registration. Just walk to the elevators and up you go!
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2997449]In that order? I don't know about that. I would do Rio first. You want to be at top strength to handle those Rio garotas.[/QUOTE]Already booked flight tickets. So I have to stick to the plan this time. May be my next trip. Thank you for your suggestion.
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[QUOTE=Tochka;2997241]Check the Sao Paulo Hotels and List thread. Moema area including Allure, Mercure, Charlie, Wyndham, Tsue Palace, various airbnbs, have been reviewed about safety, price, guest friendly, noise, traffic, Uber, etc. Just read back through the many pages there. IMHO the main consideration for Moema is the fucking screaming jets taking at off 0600 am sharp and all day long. You can see the QR code on the bottom of the livery of GOL planes landing at CGH from almost any Moema Clinica. There are at least 10 to 12 clinicas, spas.
Ten minutes walking distance or short inexpensive uber rides to tangara, Scandallo, Casarao at night.[/QUOTE]Thanks.
Checkedin in Allure this morning. Hotel is very nice, clean and furniture are modern. Rooms are much smaller when on pictures, but have everything. Unfortunately, there are no safety boxes in rooms. They have laundry in the basement. In couple days will try it. No iron and iron board in the room. Rooms are more or less soundproofed. You can hear the noise, but it not even close to the noise on the street.
Walked to the mall to get some money. Santander ATMs declined my chase debit card. I called chase and they told me there was no any declines on chase side. It is the bank. There is an exchange on a third floor, so exchanged some dollars.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2997248]You can find hotels in Moema with little to no noise. The Mercure Times Square is one such hotel. I can personally vouch for it. But don't let anyone con you into staying at the Wyndham with claims of insulated windows! I stayed there during my last visit to Sampa, and it's directly in the flight path and noisy! Very convenient but don't stay there if you're a light sleeper or if jet airplane noise just bothers you. Otherwise the actual accommodation was fine, and Moema is extremely safe.[/QUOTE]I will add my 2 cents, so folks can decide where to stay. Mercure hotels usually don't seem to have sound proofed windows and that is the case with Mercure Times Square (MTS). The windows they have are bit better than the ones in apartments. If there is a nearby construction during you stay, then you don't need an alarm to get up in the morning. Other benefit of staying in MTS when there is nearby construction is you can do clinica runs, sightseeing or some other activity during daytime because you won't be able to sleep. At night there won't be any construction and also there are not many flights going over Wyndham either. There was construction across the street (near Al Kaseem restaurant) from hotel MTS during my 1st stay. The construction noise woke me up every day by 8 am and couldn't sleep during the day because of the loud noise. Luckily there is no such loud construction during my recent stays. I would pick Wyndham over MTS if there is nearby construction. That said, under Wyndham management the hotel has gone downhill. It is now very poorly maintained and with poor management. One big advantage MTS has over Wyndham is that it is, like Steve9696 said, very girl friendly.
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Mercure Times Square
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2997542]I will add my 2 cents, so folks can decide where to stay. Mercure hotels usually don't seem to have sound proofed windows and that is the case with Mercure Times Square (MTS). The windows they have are bit better than the ones in apartments. If there is a nearby construction during you stay, then you don't need an alarm to get up in the morning. Other benefit of staying in MTS when there is nearby construction is you can do clinica runs, sightseeing or some other activity during daytime because you won't be able to sleep. At night there won't be any construction and also there are not many flights going over Wyndham either. There was construction across the street (near Al Kaseem restaurant) from hotel MTS during my 1st stay. The construction noise woke me up every day by 8 am and couldn't sleep during the day because of the loud noise. Luckily there is no such loud construction during my recent stays. I would pick Wyndham over MTS if there is nearby construction. That said, under Wyndham management the hotel has gone downhill. It is now very poorly maintained and with poor management. One big advantage MTS has over Wyndham is that it is, like Steve9696 said, very girl friendly.[/QUOTE]I stayed at this hotel at least a couple of times and there was [B]zero[/B] noise from planes flying overhead. I don't know if the windows were sound proof or not. All I know is there was no airport noise. There also was no construction going on at the time of my stays though, so I can't address that. The Wyndham is in a more convenient location, but the MTS certainly isn't inconveniently located, and the screeching overhead planes cancel out any advantages to be had from the Wyndham's location if you ask me. Advantage MTS when it comes to avoiding airport noise. Based on my direct experience. I won't stay at the Wyndham again.
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STAYING AT are AGUSTA / BIG FAN
I thought this was the best decision I made. I experienced a vibrant, diverse community closely populated by entertainment, restaurants, and shopping malls. In fact, it seemed to be a carbon copy of New York. Yes theres like 2% homeless people but no different in America with the invasion of fentanyl. Police ride up and down the roads consistently at night time. Apart from the homeless the other people roaming the streets are party goers like yourself. I loved walking to and from casarao to my apartment building, which had great security. I think the earliest I walked home was 2 am and sometimes coming in about 5 am. In my opinion Casarao was the best somewhat reasonable priced place to monger with numbers of talent so why not be as close by as possible. There was no annoying noise from flight as people posted about moema. But if you are into the spas then I would agree to be close by in the moema area.
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Walked to the mall to get some money. Santander ATMs declined my chase debit card. I called chase and they told me there was no any declines on chase side. It is the bank. There is an exchange on a third floor, so exchanged some dollars.[/QUOTE]Look for Bradesco ATM's, they're the best.
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ATMs at actual banks.
[QUOTE=Guest19;2997527]Thanks.
Walked to the mall to get some money. Santander ATMs declined my chase debit card. I called chase and they told me there was no any declines on chase side. It is the bank. There is an exchange on a third floor, so exchanged some dollars.[/QUOTE]Try the ATMs at the free standing banks. Not the ones in stores or the mall.
This is my go to bank on the same avenue and accept Chase bank card.
Banco Bradesco. Agência 0495.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/f5aTpqji5YxRs1Eu7?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy[/URL]
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Banks
[QUOTE=DasBooty;2997602]Look for Bradesco ATM's, they're the best.[/QUOTE]Bradesco is my preferred but Santander also works well with my Schwab debit card. Schwab also refunds all ATM fees (was like $60) which I greatly appreciate!
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Bradesco bank
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2997615]Try the ATMs at the free standing banks. Not the ones in stores or the mall.
This is my go to bank on the same avenue and accept Chase bank card.
Banco Bradesco. Agncia 0495.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/f5aTpqji5YxRs1Eu7?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy[/URL][/QUOTE]Agreed use Bradesco bank inside the lobby. There is a Bradesco across from Moema metro. I think the lobby closes at 8 pm. Personally my go to are the Bradesco banks with lobby open late at night until 11 pm. The Santadar ATM in Shopping Ibirapuera mall is a 50-50 deal. Sometimes works fine with credit card withdrawal other times has limits of 1000 reais max. Sometimes rejects debit card transaction with nada explanation.
Also be careful using debit card vs credit cards because some bank ATM run out of paper to print proof of withdrawal or in case of ATM malfunction or not dispensing any money. Until the damn whirring stops and money is dispensed anything can happen.
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Malfunction
[QUOTE=Tochka;2997667]Or in case of ATM malfunction or not dispensing any money. Until the damn whirring stops and money is dispensed anything can happen.[/QUOTE]This happened to me once in Brazil (Curitiba). It was at a major mall using a machine that was not specific to a particular bank (that's what I could find). Apparently the machine lost connectivity or something and didn't dispense my money. It said wait a few minutes and try again. I did, and on the second attempt I was able to withdraw the money. Afterwards I checked my Schwab checking account which showed two attempts to withdraw the money, the first unsuccessful and the second successful. I then locked my account so that no more withdrawals could take place until I myself unlocked the account. I love that feature! That along with refunds of any and all fees and great customer service (I don't hand that compliment out easily because most businesses don't deserve it) makes the Schwab debit card an excellent choice for the traveling monger. One of the best things I ever did was open that checking account with Schwab. They put $60 in ATM fees recently incurred in Brazil back into my account. Not a lot of banks are going to do that. When I'm overseas I hit the ATMs freely because I know I will get all of the fees back. The Cane does not pay fees to access my own money!
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SP Logistics
I haven't written a report in almost 1. 5 years, but still go to Brazil (mostly SP) about 6 x a year. With the abundance of reviews, feedback and questions the past few months in this forum, I feel motivated to give back and provide new insights I've gleamed in 2024 and 2025, as well as answer some questions or update on some pricing: Note: All mentions of money are in Brazilian Real, unless denoted by USD.
Accommodations:
I generally stay at higher end hotels and have found all the mid to high end hotels in SP and RJ to be guest friendly. You should ALWAYS book for 2 or maximum allowable guests for that room category. (3+ for suites, etc.). Some hotels, especially the night staff, will try to charge you a guest fee if you only book for 1 guest. Sometimes they will try even if you book for 2+. In those situations, you just need to politely push back and point out you booked for 2+ guests.
Something new I've experienced is that some hotels will try to differentiate a "visitor" vs. A "guest". They consider a visitor as temporary visitor. They consider a guest as someone who can get a keycard and make room charges, etc. I had one instance where a hotel tried to register a girl as a "visitor" and ask me pay a visitor fee. I told them I booked for 2 persons, and they warned me that to avoid the "visitor" fee, I had to register her as a "guest" so I did so. I simply unregistered her once she left in the afternoon.
I have stayed at the following hotels found them to be guest friendly:
Rosewood (Best hotel in SP IMHO, luxurious and modern, conveniently located, expensive).
Emiliano (luxury hotel with a modern Brazilian flair, conveniently located, expensive).
Fasano (both locations) (Old school Brazilian luxury hotel, conveniently located, expensive).
Hotel Unique (Not a fan, small rooms ok location, expensive).
Tivoli (Nice luxury hotel, conveniently located, expensive).
Renaissance (Best Marriott hotel location wise. A bit dated, good service).
Grand Hyatt (Amazing service, typical Grand Hyatt, far from the action).
JW Marriott (Newly renovated luxury Marriott hotel, far from action).
W Sao Paulo (Newlly built great service, good location amd modern luxury).
Intercontinental (A bit dated, good location).
My friends found the following hotels to be guest friendly:
Palacio Tangara (Super luxurious, far away from action, expensive).
Hilton (Far away from action).
Sheraton (Far away from action).
Marriott Apartments (Close to Bomboa and Caf Photo.
Pullman Sao Paulo (both locations).
Grand Mercure and Mercure (various locations).
Wyndham SP Ibrapuera (formerly known as the Bourbon) in Moema (Beware of airplane noise).
Friends who have stayed at Airbnb have had little trouble finding guest friendly options in both SP and RJ, although they did have to do their due diligence and ask about the host's guest policy.
Transportation:
Uber is the way to go, as it's cheap and convenient. I generally use Uber Black as many drivers cancel UberX so you might have to wait longer to save a little coin. Uber Black also usually isn't much more than UberX and a few times, it's even cheaper! A new option I noticed in 2024 is Uber Taxi, which can be quite useful in avoiding traffic. Uber Taxi usually is similar to UberX in pricing (and often times run promos which cost less than Uberx). Taxis can use special lanes for only Taxis and Buses to avoid traffic during rush hour. Occasionally, I would use regular Taxis when leaving Scandallo or my hotel if it's right there waiting for a passenger. For short and medium distance journeys, their pricing is comparable to Uber. It is usually the long distances rides and trips from / to airports that they become significantly more costly than Uber.
Crime:
Most of the crime in Sao Paulo are crimes of opportunity against the weak (women, elderly, solo unaware gringos, etc.). Snatch and grab make up most of the crime I've heard about from friends, colleagues, girls and others. Try not to walk around the city with your full attention on your phone. When you do need to use your phone out in the street, try to stay away from the curb, where guys on bikes can do a snatch and grab. I usually walk inside a store if I need to use my phone. When calling for an Uber, try to do so and wait inside an establishment, whether it's a clinica, bank, restaurant, bar, etc. And exit when the Uber arrives. The neighborhood you are in also plays a big part on how cautious and aware you need to be. Centro, Republica and north of Av. Paulista at night can be especially shady. Even tourist hotspots near Av. Paulista, Liberdade, etc. Need extra awareness at night. The areas I've found to be safest at night were Itaim Bibi, Vila Olimpia and Jardim Paulista. I also found Moema to be relatively safe both during the day and at night, as it has a Bohemian vibe. You can also get a wrist cord or neck lanyard for your phone. It has saved my friends from a few attempts at snatch and grabs.
Banking / FX and Credit Cards:
I mainly use ATMs for most of my FX / cash needs. You get an exchange rate very close to the current rate with Santander and Bradesco. I try to use ATMs inside bank branches. In branches near busy and more affluent, touristy or commercial areas (Jardim Paulista, Itaim Bibi, etc.) and in shopping malls, I usually can withdraw $2,500 per transaction up to your local bank's daily withdrawal limits (so probably $5,000 per day in 2 transactions). I have 2 ATM cards with me so I can withdraw up to $10,000 per day. 1 to 2 visits to the ATMs usually satisfy my cash needs for the trip.
Using a debit card that refunds ATM fees is suggested. Schwab and Fidelity have online accounts that are easy to use and returns ATM fees. Higher tier bank checking accounts at big western financial institutions will refund your ATM fees. I carry 2 of these cards with me when I travel (Schwab and my main bank card).
I also supplement that by brining around $1,000 USD for emergency funds. Many girls will take USD in lieu of Reals. You can also go to a cambio if you want to exchange. Two that I have used and can recommend are: 1) Seattle Turismo in Jardim Paulist and 2) Casa de Cambio in Morumbi Shopping.
For most of my expenses in Brazil, I use a credit card with no foreign transaction fees and high point reward bonuses for restaurants and travel. I use my credit cards at hotels, restaurants, super markets, pharmacies, tourist attractions, boates (Scandallo, Bamboa, etc.) and even some clinicas and Termas (in RJ) where there is no surcharge or fees for using a credit card. I mostly use cash when paying the girls or when visiting clinicas that don't take credit card or charge a surcharge for its usage.
I usually only take with me 1 or 2 CCs and 1 debit card with me when I am out. I also only take what I expect to use in cash that day / evening. As I usually do overnights with girls and usually visit boates, I leave most of my cash in the hotel, as I only pay the girl when they leave in the morning / afternoon. I also leave my passport and most of my IDs and CCs, etc. In the hotel safe. I carry with me my PADI ID and a paper copy of my passport. I've used my PADI ID at all the boates, bars, clubs, etc. Without issue. I am sure an expired license or any local ID you use would suffice if they would accept my scuba diving ID. My paper copy of my passport was also accepted by cambios I've used for USD to BRL cash exchange. They usually will also take a photo of your passport from your phone. I also take with me a burner phone, which basically is the last phone I used before I upgraded to my current phone. I do the above to minimize risk when out about town.
Cellular Communications:
I have no experience getting local SIM or international eSIM cards, as I have used 3 plans the last 5 years in Brazil that worked great. Google Fi has unlimited talk, text and data and is great for international use. T-Mobile has 5 Gig of monthly data for international use. AT&T has unlimited talk, text and data in South America (including Brazil). However, GRU and GIG airports have free wifi if you need access to internet and to grab an Uber when you land without cellular internet.
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SP Boates and Clinicas
Hobbying:
With some of the recent discussions devolving into subtle or not subtle jabs as to the right way to hobby, I want to put the following disclaimer.
I believe is NO RIGHT WAY to hobby! Everyone has different tastes, budgets, approaches, goals, etc. You can go visit as many different venues as you want or stick to a select few that you repeat often. Spend as little or as much as your budget allows or your heart desires! Fuck as much or little as you want!
Here are my personal experiences and YMMV.
I generally come to Brazil for 1 week every 2 months. Therefore, time is my most valuable resource. I also am fortunate enough that I have a high enough budget that I can afford to go to the more high-end venues frequently and often. My work schedule also generally leaves me little time for afternoon excursions. I personally prefer the environment of a boate like Scandallo, where I get the chance to see the girl in person, get a chance to chat her up and see if we have good chemistry and see if we vibe, as opposed to a point and shoot option of clinicas or online outcalls / incalls.
Boates:
Scandallo:
Based on the above, it's no wonder Scandallo is my favorite place to visit in Brazil. It's a luxurious venue with good food and good drinks and they bring 100-250 girls together for me to chat up, size up and select for an overnight date. Saves me so much time and legwork as opposed to other venues like clinicas or online options (escorts or Seeking or its Brazilian version MP), which would take multiple visits and still might not get the same results or quality. It's almost like speed dating version of Seeking / freelancers, but you can choose who to approach and go at it at your own pace.
Scandallo Lounge is divided into mainly3 areas, an outdoor terrace (small one by day and then a large one later at night), a restaurant and a disco / club area. You can talk to girls in a quieter setting of the terrace or restaurant (but has darker lighting) or dance and party in the disco.
The average quality of the girls who work there are, in my experience and opinion, unrivalled anywhere in Brazil (some would say all of the Americas or even the world) in terms of looks, charisma, style, intelligence, etc. I've met many professionals and talented artists who worked there from lawyers, doctors, engineers, teachers, nurses. Etc. And of course, many students, models, artists, dancers, etc. For a girl to work in Scandallo, it isn't as simple as showing up and paying their entry fee, which isn't cheap. They have to submit photos of themselves and go for an interview. I've had a few girls I've met at other boates, who I thought had the looks for working at Scandallo get turned down. They were told they either weren't put together enough or should get more experience working at other higher end boates like Connections (sister club of Scandallo) or Bamboa before they reapply again. I am sure the months / seasons of the year also has something to do with their rejection. During the quieter months in the summer, when many of the girls are traveling abroad (or Brazilian winter), they probably would have gotten accepted.
Once they get accepted, they have to pay an initial entrance fee of $300 for their first day working at the club. Although I've heard some girls get that waved as they are so hot or refined / elegant and the club management want them to come to attract clients. If they work 8 hours or if a client takes them out of the club for a "saida", they will get a free invitation back the next business day. They are expected to work 5 days a week if they want to get continuous free invitations. They can elect to take Saturday or Mondays off (on top of Sundays). They can change their day off each week when they submit their schedule. Once they skip a work day, they will have to restart the first day $300 admission process all over again.
Therefore, a girl who isn't hot enough or have a shitty or sharky personality or don't have whatever clients look for, they will have a sunk cost of $300 plus whatever they consume in terms of food and drinks that clients don't pay for. That weeds out the lower end girls as they have to compete with other young and hot girls who might be intelligent, stylish, elegant, sexy, etc. And they have to PAY to compete, or on subsequent working days invest their time to compete.
Some of the best girls can show up late or whenever they want as they can get a client whenever they show up.
For guys, their cost is $300 before 7:00 pm (All count toward consumption) and $500 after 7:00 pm ($300 toward consumption). What that basically means is that there is a $200 cover charge after 7:00 pm, and you are expected to spend a minimum of $300 on drinks, food, tobacco products, etc. I find it pretty easy to spend $300 per visit and rarely go under that, unless it's a quick visit on the way to the airport.
If you plan to visit Scandallo more than 1 or 2 x within a 6-month period and / or are going with friends, it's is good advice to get a bottle of your favorite hard liquor. You pay less per drink and the bottle is held for 6 months. The bottle also acts as a placeholder on any table you are sitting at should you go walk around. I usually get a bottle of gin as that's what the girls usually drinks. Some will also drink vodka, tequila and champagne. I find both good and bad whiskey wasted on the girls. If you are going with friends, you can even split the cost of a bottle as everyone would have $300 consumption anyway.
Most of the girls I've spoken to recently have been asking anywhere between $1,000 to $3,000 for a short time romp in the adjacent hotel. Time can range from 60 to 120 minutes depending on how you negotiate. It is generally just an opening ask, and they will usually take $700 to $1,200. A few girls will only come down to $1,500 to $2,000. How far down they will go will depends on many factors. While you are sizing them up, they are also reading you. If they like you, whether it's your looks, hygiene, personality, etc. Can be a factor. Whether they think you are a newbie or a rich gringo sometimes can be a factor. The time and day of the week also matters, as they will take less during quieter times of the day (afternoon or early evenings) or less busy days of the week (Mondays and Saturdays).
Suffice it so say, with so many hot women to suit all tastes, all my friends and I have had no issue getting girls for $1,000 to $1,200, and even with some of my friends who like to haggle and play hard to get netting girls regularly for $700-900 for ST (Short Time).
I personally do not enjoy haggling and don't negotiate too hard so usually just make 1 counter offer that I feel is fair based on what my friends, colleagues and other local friends have been paying ($1,000 to $1,200) and move on. Even then, my successful rate is probably 90-95%.
For ST visits in the hotel next door, Scandallo now charges $300 per hour, which is the same as the takeout "saida" fee. Time starts when the girl opens the door with the keycard to the room. Any time over one hour is charged at a prorated rate.
Short time trysts probably only make up 5-10% of my encounters in Scandallo. I almost always take a girl out of the club at the end of the night for an overnight / pernoite date until the morning. For LT (Long time) dates, I generally pay $1,500 to $2,000. Occasionally, I've paid $2,500 for a girl I really want and once in a blue moon, I've paid $3,000 for a unicorn that I just had to have.
I also make sure to discuss what I want in terms of service and time. For me that's at minimum, BBBJ, DFK, have stamina in both oral and intercourse, as I can last awhile. I also make sure we agree on when they will leave, as I always want a girl to stay until at least late morning for morning sex and then breakfast in bed. If they need to leave earlier, then I either move on or negotiate a lower "gift" for less time.
You can fill in your own requirements in terms of acronyms or requirements. These girls aren't shy and have heard it all, whether you ask for CIM, anal, BBFS, reverse gangbang, 2 guys tag teaming her, BDSM, eating sushi off of them, pegging, waterworks, visiting swing clubs, going to a love model with a pole for a private strip show, etc. Just be direct, but also tactful or smooth in asking for what you want. Nothing worse than being vague and then being disappointed if you didn't get something that you "must" have or presume is included or they leave earlier than you expect.
Generally, GFE (BBBJ, Kissing, DATY) is included, but after 1 instance (thankfully out of 100+) of a girl wanting to do CBJ, I've started making sure even on GFE. I've found the average IOP and service level of the girls at Scandallo to be higher than other boates or venues. It's a by-product of the more relaxing and luxurious environment, vetting process by management, ability of clients to size up the girl, the girl generally being smart enough to want a loyal repeat client, clients who are usually more demanding and not settle for shitty service, girls who are usually more refined and forward thinking, and the ability of clients to complain about a girl to management.
Some of my friends and colleagues (as well as many of the locals) go to Scandallo just to socialize and get numbers for a future meet up. Many locals (which makes up probably 90% of the client base) also go just to drink and party, whether with clients or just with the girls or to get cheap feels.
After reading about an instance of a poster being extorted / scammed into paying a girl to spend time with her, I have to chime in. YOU DO NOT NEED TO PAY A GIRL FOR SPENDING TIME WITH YOU! They can ask for a tip when she leaves you. Heck, she can ask for drinks, food, etc. It is your right to say yes or no. I've had less than a handful of girls ask for a tip when we couldn't come to an agreement after she spent some social time with me. I've also politely declined each time and they just shrugged and went on their way. Tipping isn't a cultural thing in Brazil and they usually only ask that of gringos.
They will NOT kick you out simply for spending social time with a girl and not compensating her for social time. If a girl or any security guard makes that demand or threat, ask to speak to management. I've asked a few managers and head waiters at the club about this and they all said it's BS and they would ban the girl and fire the security guard on the spot of it was brought to their attention.
To recap for pricing:
$300 minimum consumption (All times) + $200 cover charge after 7:00 PM.
$300ST hotel for 1 hour or $300 take out "Saida" fee.
ST: Generally $900 to $1,200 with a select few at $7-800 or $1,500 to $2,000.
LT: Generally $1,500 to $2,000, with a select few at $2,500 to $3,000.
Bomboa.
A smaller boate with a family restaurant feel. The club is centrally located, which might be its best attribute. I've visited on numerous occasions for a change of pace and at least half the time, I left and went to Scandallo afterwards, as I didn't find any girl to my liking that were available. The number of girls varies from 25 to 50 depending on the night. I almost always see a girl I like, but often times they are occupied. Overall, I like the service and more relaxed vibe, but the limited amount of girls at times make it hit or miss for me.
The pricing is very similar to Scandallo as my last visit in 2024 was $350 all consumption. They also tack on a 15% service charge. They also have a happy hour / executive lunch special during the day at about the consumption.
The girls ask a little less than Scandallo and you can get them for $600-1,000 for ST and $1,000 to $1,500 for LT.
Caf Photo:
Also centrally located and near Bomboa. It's a luxurious smaller version of Scandallo and I've had so good pulls in the past before they finished building the hotel. However, my last few visits (and those of my friends) have been mediocre at best. The quantity and quality of the girls have gone downhill the past 12-18 months.
Pricing is also similar to Scandallo as it was $350 with $200 being consumption. They also tack on a 15% service charge.
The girls ask a little less than Scandallo and you can get them for $800-1,000 for ST and $1,000 to $1,500 for LT.
Gauguin Club:
Located by WTC so lots of businessmen and gringo visitors. Went there for first time earlier this year and did like the setup. It's a bit like Caf Photo, but with better talent (similar to Bomboa) I forgot the entry, but I think we took the $200 option with less consumption.
Girls were asking prices similar to Scandallo.
It's an okay boate to check out if you are in the area.
Clinicas:
I generally separate them into 3 tiers. High-end, regular and budget.
My favorite high end ones are:
The Palms (Tropical theme, Ipad selection, good service) $800 for 60 min.
Oro Spa (Modern Spa look, ipad selection, good service) $750 for 60 min.
Lotus Lounge (Modern Spa look, ipad selection, good service) $750 for 60 min.
Regular Clinicas (I've mostly gone to the ones in Moeama area):
Moema Prime: (good roster, good selection of girls, good to amazing service) $330 for 60 min.
Miruna (moderate roster, okay selection of girls, good service) $330 for 60 min.
Abbobora (Biggest roster, usually hotter selection of girls, but service is hit or miss): $400 for 60 min.
57 Friends (moderate roster, okay selection of girls, good to amazing service) $330 for 60 min. Turns into a boate after 8 or 9 pm.
Enjoy (moderate roster, okay selection of girls, good service) $330 for 60 min.
Budget:
Tangara (huge roster, good selection of girls, okay to great service) $240 for 60 min.
Yankin (large roster, good selection of girls, okay to great service) $240 for 60 min.
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[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2997729]
Sheraton (Far away from action).
[/QUOTE]Completely agree about being far away for the action, except it's next door to the Gauguin Club. I wouldn't stay there for that reason, but I would definitely visit the Gauguin Club if you're staying at the Sheraton.
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Great report. Very useful for the first timer like me.
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Here are my personal experiences and YMMV.
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[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2997729]........Wyndham SP Ibrapuera (formerly known as the Bourbon) in Moema (Beware of airplane noise)............[/QUOTE]I mostly stayed at the Bourbon in my trips to SP (last one being 2019). Now made aware of the name change. I was always given a room with sound proof windows so had no problem with noise in the room despite its proximity to the airport.
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[QUOTE=Blakman;2997587]I thought this was the best decision I made. I experienced a vibrant, diverse community closely populated by entertainment, restaurants, and shopping malls. In fact, it seemed to be a carbon copy of New York. [/QUOTE]You get it and I think you are only scratching the surface based on your report. I do not like Casarao like you so I like this area even without it. In Rio, Lapa is similar but smaller and lesser in scale.
The main thing to watch out for is the people on bicycle. They will try to snatch something from you, even from your pockets. The only place that is safe from them is a place that their bikes can't get to.
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[QUOTE=ZuluTango25;2997526]Already booked flight tickets. So I have to stick to the plan this time. May be my next trip. Thank you for your suggestion.[/QUOTE]Don't sweat it. I've done it both ways and there are pros and cons to both.
I think I slightly prefer SP first and then RJ, especially if it's been raining a lot in SP. One of my trips earlier this year, I spent 7 days in SP and it rained every day. I decided to extend my stay and head to RJ where the weather was gorgeous. It was a great relaxing way to end the trip.
It just depends on whether you prefer the more chill and relaxing part of your trip to be in the front or back end.
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Hey Socrates
[QUOTE=Pk099;2997792]Great report. Very useful for the first timer like me.[/QUOTE]Yes excellent info. Someday soon I will get to Brazil but living in San Diego it is so much easier and cheaper to get to Mexico and Colombia. I fly first class so its a lot to SP. I'm in Tijuana almost every week with a chica and never in the zona. Would I be OK with English and intermediate Spanish in Brazil? Would I be able to communicate well with the girls? Do you speak Portugese?
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[QUOTE=Pk099;2997792]Great report. Very useful for the first timer like me.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lor Socrates! Outstanding job. I will be in SP the First week of June a report Will follow, also First week of December.
In your experience is there a month / s when you don't recommend Scandallo or to make It easier when its absolutely most recommended during the year? Of course weather can be a factor?
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Is there a way to get the write ups below by Socrates to be put on the top of this thread as a sticky that newbies can refer to without looking for this information?
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Yes
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2997888]Would I be OK with English and intermediate Spanish in Brazil? Would I be able to communicate well with the girls? Do you speak Portugese?[/QUOTE]And yes and no (I don't speak good Portuguese but maybe he does). And if all else fails it's not uncommon to see people communicating with a smart phone translator app.
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Scandallo vs Casarao
On my first day in SP, on Wednesday, I went to Scandallo. Everything was as described in forum. I never imagined so many beautiful girls in one place. The girl I took to the hotel, show me nice non-alcoholic drink. It's called something like "tea from Fazenda". Similar to Thai ice tea, tea with milk, lemon and ginger. Very nice non-alcoholic alternative to soda.
Yesterday, I went to Casarao. Its like medium-level nightclub full of all sorts of girls. I was from11:30 till 12:30 and ratio of girls to men was 2-3:1. Girls are not groomed as Scandallo girls, but in some sende more natural. The worst part of Casarao is hotel. I was in are $100 room. I know there are are $50 rooms, bit I do not know how to make it smaller. Also, a window in the shower to the corridor looks very strange.
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Distinction
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2997906]Is there a way to get the write ups below by Socrates to be put on the top of this thread as a sticky that newbies can refer to without looking for this information?[/QUOTE]They're in the Reports of Distinction, which is where I was going to put them, but Lalabo beat me to it. I think the RODs is good enough. That's where all newbies should go first before asking a bunch of endless questions, the answers to which usually have already been answered time and time again. Thoroughly educate yourself first, then ask informed questions, and people will be happy to help you.
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[QUOTE=Anaggie;2997906]Is there a way to get the write ups below by Socrates to be put on the top of this thread as a sticky that newbies can refer to without looking for this information?[/QUOTE]I was going to add it but Lalabo already did.
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I suspect those prices are in Brazilian reals?
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2997731]Hobbying:
With some of the recent discussions devolving into subtle or not subtle jabs as to the right way to hobby, I want to put the following disclaimer.
I believe is NO RIGHT WAY to hobby! Everyone has different tastes, budgets, approaches, goals, etc. You can go visit as many different venues as you want or stick to a select few that you repeat often. Spend as little or as much as your budget allows or your heart desires! Fuck as much or little as you want!.[/QUOTE]
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What gives mates?
I don't see any recent posts about the new Visa requirements from USA so I am trying but it won't let me upload my passport WTF.
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[QUOTE=Anaggie;2997906]Is there a way to get the write ups below by Socrates to be put on the top of this thread as a sticky that newbies can refer to without looking for this information?[/QUOTE]AFAIK this site doesn't support stickies or pinning posts at the top of the thread like some forums do. One option is to highlight useful reports by adding it to "Reports of Distinction" (ROD). Reading RODs is the easiest and faster way to find most important and useful reports without reading through tons of pages.
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[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2997915]I suspect those prices are in brasilian reals?[/QUOTE]I know I wrote a lot. But the FIRST paragraph of my FIRST post (of 2) states.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2997729]Note: All mentions of money are in Brazilian Real, unless denoted by USD. [/QUOTE]It is also best to not quote ALL of a long post during a reply, but just the relevant parts.
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Arriving with two girls to a republica
Hello comrades,
I have already mentioned before I use to rent rooms for long stays in shared houses called "republicas". Not the ones in downtown but very close to universities. It's a fantastic cultural experience as you may imagine because you can interact with locals, mostly civilian workers, students, cops, escorts, teachers, etc. In their daily lives. The rooms have a monthly reasonable price. I paid are R2000 for the month with private bathroom they call "suite" hahaha very funny.
Well, most of the houses will let you bring visits but you have to announce them with the owner of the house. The last time I stayed almost one month in a Republica and behaved very well, until the very last night I decided to break the rules hehehehe.
So, I arrenged with two gorgeous brunettes, one of them I met in Bomboa and we had very good chemestry. In order not to bring too much attention we scheluded our encounter very late a Wednesday night, around midnight. The girls arrived in the car of the brunette from Bomboa, we talked a few minutes inside the car where she introduced me to her friend. We kissed in the back seat while I was checking the merch my friend was bringin for me. It was good flesh and dick went inmediately hard. Then I checked the lights of the house to be turned off in most of the rooms. Everything looked safe and sound so we entered the house walking like cats trying not to make any noise.
To get to my room we first must walk through a patio where there are chairs and tables where people of the house talk, smoke, make barbecues or do their stuff. A shared area. When I went to receive the girls there was nobody in this patio, but when walking back ten minutes later, hand in hand with two girls in high heels and very tight jeans, dressed not too bitchy fortunately, there are 3 young guys talking and drinking beers in one of the tables. Those guys were policemen hahahaha already in civilian clothes, shorts and flip flops (havaianas).
You can imagine how those guys looked at us and all the things they said when they saw us walking the long corridor of rooms till the end and finally turning to the left. They were cheering like it was a soccer game! The girls were laughing of course. Brazilians are just like that, nice people (gente boa).
It was an awesome threesome in my room. I paid each girl $R1500 and invited a sandwich after our little party (festinha). As a matter of fact, they call it festinha when you make a threesome or an orgy. I paid a bit more because I made them wear toys and customs I purchased. You can see one of the girls with a clown nose. I'm a fetish guy hehehehe and girls love it! one of them had such a powerful orgasm while wearing that mask.
I left Sao Paulo the day after and I didn't have to share the kitchen this time. I'm sure everyone would have mentioned that I brought two expensive GPS (garotas de programa) to the house. I spent more with the two girls than the monthly rent of the room. And the policemen knew it.
The owner of the house didn't say a thing, because I'm sure he watched everything in the recorded video from security cams hahahaha those houses have cams in every shared area.
I'll be back of course.
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[QUOTE=AdamCki;2997898]In your experience is there a month / s when you don't recommend Scandallo or to make It easier when its absolutely most recommended during the year? Of course weather can be a factor?[/QUOTE]It depends on what your preferences are. Some prefer a less crazy or crowded time, while others prefer it.
Generally, there are more girls and hotter girls from September / October to / May / June.
The reason is mainly two fold. 1) Summer time in the US and Europe is Brazilian winter so it's colder in Brazil 2) Many of the hotter girls travel between May and September to Europe where weather is nicer. It can be on their own dime or as arm candy for rich clients. Other girls choose this time to work overseas as more tourists are traveling to Europe, ME or Asia during US summer months.
Also it's wild at Scandallo during F1 week in November as well as NFL week in September.
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[QUOTE=CatBert55;2997756]Completely agree about being far away for the action, except it's next door to the Gauguin Club. I wouldn't stay there for that reason, but I would definitely visit the Gauguin Club if you're staying at the Sheraton.[/QUOTE]I was staying at the Grand Hyatt, which is also very close to Gaughin and the main reason my friends and I stopped by. We spent about an hour there and decided to head over to Scandallo and the talent level was night and day. As it was Wednesday night.
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[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2997941]Not the ones in downtown but very close to universities. It's a fantastic cultural experience as you may imagine because you can interact with locals, mostly civilian workers, students, cops, escorts, teachers, etc. In their daily lives. The rooms have a monthly reasonable price. [/QUOTE]This post has little to do with sex. I was trekking in Patagonia recently. I met 3 different brazileiras on different occasions. One is born in Northern Europe and we stayed in the same room in a hostel right near the trail head. At that time, I did not know her mother is Brazilian. In the evening she came up to me like a kid telling me "We set our alarm clock at 2 AM" to go hiking at 3 AM. They were 2 of them in my room. She then invited me to go with them. I did not eat dinner and just went to bed like them so I can get enough sleep. It turned out to be a trip of the lifetime. I can only tell you what my friend told me after seeing the photos I took is that we arrived at the golden hour. Brazillians can be extremely warm even to strangers. The other two girls I met were similarly friendly. She asked about my travel plan and that was when she told me her mother is from Brazil when I mentioned Brazil. I thought that explains why she was so friendly.
I cropped out the million dollar view on purpose. Haha.
Before I went to Patagonia, I met this one on the street. She claimed to be a college student needing money. She said she would do anything I want but then told me the sex would be covered later or just the first time. I did not like the lie. She behaved somewhat like a working girl but I think she is not because where could she find work? We were oing to have sex once before but she brough a friend and her friend would hide in my bathroom so she won't interfere. I refused. This used to happen regularly in the city where I live in US. Many college students would come to work during weekend to make money or to experience life and they would share a hotel room.
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[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2997888] Would I be OK with English and intermediate Spanish in Brazil? Would I be able to communicate well with the girls? Do you speak Portugese?[/QUOTE]I speak beginner Portuguese. I really should be more fluent considering how many times and days I've been in Brazil the past 5 yesrs. But I don't practice much when at home as I am too busy. I am also spoiled as all my co workers speak English and they act as translators when needed.
I can understand more than I can speak and I get by with speaking Portuanol. Half Spanish and half Portuguese.
But the first few years, I used mostly translator in Scandallo. The girls I met are usually patient and familiar with its usage.
Some guys don't want to put the effort into using it or find it awkward or felt shame using it. I didn't. It just depends on how much effort you put forward.
I've spent 24-48 hours with countless girls where 80% of our conversation was with Google translate. We would go out to dinner, clubbing, do tourist stuff etc.
Google translate conversation mode is especially powerful in a quiet environment like your hotel room. You can just leave it on auto and carry a pretty fluid conversation. As long as both parties don't speak too much at once and they wait for the translation to finish and speak after the beep.
With that said, does it help if you speak fluent Portuguese? Of course. In many cases, they are more relaxed and comfortable. But you can get them into that mood if you are charismatic, treat them with respect, etc.
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[QUOTE=AdamCki;2997898]Thanks a lor Socrates! Outstanding job. I will be in SP the First week of June a report Will follow, also First week of December.
In your experience is there a month / s when you don't recommend Scandallo or to make It easier when its absolutely most recommended during the year? Of course weather can be a factor?[/QUOTE]June might be a bit slower at Scandallo as it's Brazilian winter. Some of the girls will be traveling.
1st week of December should be normal or rocking as girls want to make that holiday paper.
But SP and Scandallo in particular is so big, that even at its "low", it's incredible.
I recall when my boys and I first visited during the pandemic. There was a 9 pm curfew and the disco and big outdoor terrace wasn't even open. The first impression we had was still WOW! And we are all experienced hobbyist having mongered all over the world. If Scandallo at 30-40% strength was that good. Imagine how it is now at 80%. I say 80%, as colleagues and locals say it was even better pre pandemic.
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Thanks a lot for some great reports! Very useful as I will soon travel to Braz for the first time. Will definitely check out Scandallo. How is talent in May? Will try collect numbers.
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Have anyone mongered in Santos? Any tips to share from that place?
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Santos
Very nice beach spot Guaruja-Santos, perfect transportation. There is a metro station in SP Jabaquara that connects the bus terminal.
I haven't mongered there, but when I got to Santos a Sunday morning around 10 am, there was a very broad street with lots of bars and people still in heavy party at 10 am. So debauchery is assured.
The beauty on the beach was interesting. Paulistans arriving at the beach to enjoy a weekend, warm sea, being a winter morning. Brazil.
If anyone interested on my videos / pics of spots and more, feel free to drop me a pm. As you can see I have a solid photo / video archive dating from the early 2000's.
[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;2998471]Have anyone mongered in Santos? Any tips to share from that place?[/QUOTE]
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Finally getting around to writing this after a busy month dealing with personal matters. I won't repeat what's already covered extensively on the forums—just sharing some key takeaways as a first-timer.
Accommodations.
I stayed in Moema & Vila Mariana, trying three hotels:
Wyndham Ibirapuera Convention Plaza Hotel.
Mercure São Paulo Moema Times Square.
Mercure São Paulo Grand Plaza Paulista.
All were GF-friendly and well-located, but airport noise in Moema is no joke. Compared to the Wyndham, the Mercure Moema Times Square was the better choice.
Clinicas.
The Palms.
The girl insisted on CBJ (the only one I got all trip), which was odd, but she was hot. Upon arrival, the front desk hands you an iPad to browse available girls—you can pick three for a live presentation. They also have TS options if that's your thing.
Moema Prime / 57 Friends.
Girls are presented in person, but nothing caught my eye, so I didn't session.
Miruna.
You sit on a couch, and each girl introduces herself with a name and a cheek kiss. After the lineup, the receptionist asks who you'd like. Quality was solid.
Clubs.
Casarão.
Enter through the right-side door—bouncer pats you down and checks ID. Inside, present your credit card, get a drink ticket, and proceed into the main area. Spot a girl you like? Smile or wave her over to negotiate. Sessions happen at the adjacent hotel, but you can return for more fun afterward. I took one girl overnight to my hotel for are $700, and she was amazing.
Scandallo Lounge.
Similar setup to Casarão but far more upscale—better ambiance, hotter girls, and higher prices. The big difference? The hotel rooms are inside the building, so everything happens on-site.
Pro Tip: Save Scandallo for the end of your trip. If you go too early, other places might feel underwhelming afterward.
SIM Card.
Got an eSIM from TIM at Ibirapuera Shopping Center (3rd floor) with just my passport. Important: Ask them to disable autopay to avoid next-month charges.
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[QUOTE=TattooedTuna;3000439]The Palms.
The girl insisted on CBJ (the only one I got all trip), which was odd, but she was hot. Upon arrival, the front desk hands you an iPad to browse available girlsyou can pick three for a live presentation. They also have TS options if that's your thing.[/QUOTE]Unless things have changed, it sounds like Sharon because you get to pick 3 and the ts option. The live presentation is giving you a chance to interview the girl. You could avoid the CBJ if you wanted.
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Scandello still the best!!
Four visits during my time here. Had a great time partying at night on Wednesday and Thursday night with SocratesNY and my harem from the last trip. Ended up taking two new ones for the first two nights and the just kept two till Sunday so I could have variety in demand 😜.
Came in Monday afternoon before my flight and SocratesNY convinced me to change my flight so we could party one more night (wasn't very hard to at that point of the day high as fuck and slightly drunk) and party we did 🤣. Back again on Tuesday as I write this but going to take it easy tonight.
Prices are staying the same 800-1000 R for an hour here and 2000 R for an overnight. I don't negotiate hard anymore. I just tell them what I am willing to pay and that is that. The girls know we are regular gringos and they have seen us a few times around plus we know all the waiters and bouncers so that helps in the negotiations. Again, YMMY.
Really no point in getting numbers and trying to get them outside the club. They aren't going to come out for cheaper and they know what you're trying to pull. Just like all the other fucking Brazilians trying the same thing. Enjoy your time in the club with its awesome laid back luxury atmosphere, tons of hot women dressed elegantly and a party waiting to happen if you are willing to let it flow!
Sunday night we hit up Casarao and it was the same as the last time I went. Much lower quality of girls and the overall venue. Did take one home for an overnight who was cute but nothing great.
Stayed at my regular hotel — Renaissance and it worked out well .. like the area and it is walkable to many restaurants and bars. Suite upgrades cleared beforehand and we had a nice suite with a total of three guests allowed. One night they checked the registrations of the girls and I had to add the third girl to SocratesNY’s room but after that, they didn’t say anything. They do charge a $45 per day extra guest fee.
Can't wait for my return trip!!
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Not so easy to find the girls without paying in advance here in Sao Paulo
I am vacationing in Sao Paulo right now. I have a very hard time getting the girls to come to my hotel room because all of them that I talked to want me to send them the security deposit in advance first before they can come to my hotel. There is no way in hell I would send my money to anyone I don't know. What if I got scammed? What if the person that I sent the money to took the money and ran away? There is nothing protecting my money when it's out of my hand. That's how people get scammed by making that mistake. I wouldn't want to be one of the victims of such fraud. But if I don't do it, how am I supposed to get any of them to come to my room? I even suggested to show them the prove of my hotel reservation along with the room number I am staying in to prove that I am legit but that won't work either. They won't take that as an alternative. It's either their way or no way. Some of them even gave me an attitude when I denied their request by telling them I don't trust them with my money. What the hell is going on here? What are they afraid of to the point that they have to ask you to send them the money in advance? I understand that they don't have anything to lose should the clients stood them up or they could just take the money and run if they really want to piss them off. But on the other hand, there is nothing protecting the clients from losing their money when it's out of their hands. That's not fair, isn't it? Anyway, it doesn't matter. I am still going to stand my ground by not sending my money to anyone I don't know in advance not knowing what's going to happen to it. These girls have their own phone number that they advertised their ads on the websites like.
[URL]www.splove.com.br[/URL]
[URL]https://clubmodel.com.br[/URL]
[URL]www.fatalmodel.com[/URL]
[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo[/URL]
There is also a website called [URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/viewforum.php?f=276[/URL] which is the website where the locals use for the info on how to find the escorts and reporting the feedback about the experience with them. Let me know if anyone knows of any good escort agency websites in Sao Paulo where there is no advance payment required.
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[QUOTE=Anaggie;3000481]
Really no point in getting numbers and trying to get them outside the club. They aren't going to come out for cheaper and they know what you're trying to pull. Just like all the other fucking Brazilians trying the same thing. Enjoy your time in the club with its awesome laid back luxury atmosphere, tons of hot women dressed elegantly and a party waiting to happen if you are willing to let it flow!
[/QUOTE]Not cheaper but it can work both way. I am going to give an example, and let's call it an exception. A college girl who can only work one day a week. You took her number and pay her fair club rate, would she come? I bet she would because she does not have to pay the club and the man does not have to pay for the room. This also works to her favor timewise because she actually gets paid.
Or get her to come at a fair price before she goes club to work , so you do her first at a lower total cost. This way she has money in the bag, and can drive a harder bargain to make man pay more. LOL
If you are a weekend warrior then there is not much point doing so but if you stay for substantial amount of time. You can session in the club and get numbers. Why not go and do 1 or 2 in the club one night and get enough numbers so you can have one for each night the rest of the week at a fair price to the girl. The other way is go to pay the club (entrada+ takeout) each night to bring the girl back to your place so it depends on how you value your money or if you go there for the club or the girl
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Do the Clubs?
[QUOTE=Pneumoniall;3000756]I am vacationing in Sao Paulo right now. I have a very hard time getting the girls to come to my hotel room because all of them that I talked to want me to send them the security deposit in advance first before they can come to my hotel. There is no way in hell I would send my money to anyone I don't know. What if I got scammed? What if the person that I sent the money to took the money and ran away? There is nothing protecting my money when it's out of my hand. That's how people get scammed by making that mistake. I wouldn't want to be one of the victims of such fraud. But if I don't do it, how am I supposed to get any of them to come to my room? I even suggested to show them the prove of my hotel reservation along with the room number I am staying in to prove that I am legit but that won't work either. They won't take that as an alternative. It's either their way or no way. Some of them even gave me an attitude when I denied their request by telling them I don't trust them with my money. What the hell is going on here? What are they afraid of to the point that they have to ask you to send them the money in advance? I understand that they don't have anything to lose should the clients stood them up or they could just take the money and run if they really want to piss them off. But on the other hand, there is nothing protecting the clients from losing their money when it's out of their hands. That's not fair, isn't it? Anyway, it doesn't matter. I am still going to stand my ground by not sending my money to anyone I don't know in advance not knowing what's going to happen to it. These girls have their own phone number that they advertised their ads on the websites like.
[URL]www.splove.com.br[/URL]
[URL]https://clubmodel.com.br[/URL]
[URL]www.fatalmodel.com[/URL]
[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo[/URL]
There is also a website called [URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/viewforum.php?f=276[/URL] which is the website where the locals use for the info on how to find the escorts and reporting the feedback about the experience with them. Let me know if anyone knows of any good escort agency websites in Sao Paulo where there is no advance payment required.[/QUOTE]I guess my question is why are you doing outcall? Go to the clubs. Scandallo. Casarao. Meet the girl in person. Check the chemistry. Fuck on site. Or bring her back to your room. You are in the best club scene on planet earth. Skip the web and prepayment. Go get a girl in person. There is no better city to do so and if you don't take advantage you will wish later you had.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;3000896]I guess my question is why are you doing outcall? Go to the clubs. Scandallo. Casarao. Meet the girl in person. Check the chemistry. Fuck on site. Or bring her back to your room. You are in the best club scene on planet earth. Skip the web and prepayment. Go get a girl in person. There is no better city to do so and if you don't take advantage you will wish later you had.[/QUOTE]Do I have to pay the bar fine before I can take the girl to my room?
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Sao paulo is a pay first city
The first time a girl ask me to pay first got my wtf reaction. I soon learn that club scene you have to pay first, spas the two I went to you pay afterwards. Getting them to come to your place was a double headache. For one most airbnb wants you to get a pic of their ID document and have you send it to them for them to send to security to let them in. And most girls give you a hard time on this process in addition want to charge you more. Also if they are in a club you have to pay for them to leave. This scenario I hated about Sao Paulo and I am anxious to find away around it. But the sex will be great no matter where you have it with them. Thats 99% charles barkley guranteed.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3000896]I guess my question is why are you doing outcall? Go to the clubs. Scandallo. Casarao. Meet the girl in person. Check the chemistry. Fuck on site. Or bring her back to your room. You are in the best club scene on planet earth. Skip the web and prepayment. Go get a girl in person. There is no better city to do so and if you don't take advantage you will wish later you had.[/QUOTE].
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Outside the clun
[QUOTE=Anaggie;3000481]Four visits during my time here. Had a great time partying at night on Wednesday and Thursday night with SocratesNY and my harem from the last trip. Ended up taking two new ones for the first two nights and the just kept two till Sunday so I could have variety in demand 😜.
Came in Monday afternoon before my flight and SocratesNY convinced me to change my flight so we could party one more night (wasn't very hard to at that point of the day high as fuck and slightly drunk) and party we did 🤣. Back again on Tuesday as I write this but going to take it easy tonight.
Prices are staying the same 800-1000 R for an hour here and 2000 R for an overnight. I don't negotiate hard anymore. I just tell them what I am willing to pay and that is that. The girls know we are regular gringos and they have seen us a few times around plus we know all the waiters and bouncers so that helps in the negotiations. Again, YMMY.
Really no point in getting numbers and trying to get them outside the club. They aren't going to come out for cheaper and they know what you're trying to pull. Just like all the other fucking Brazilians trying the same thing. Enjoy your time in the club with its awesome laid back luxury atmosphere, tons of hot women dressed elegantly and a party waiting to happen if you are willing to let it flow!
Sunday night we hit up Casarao and it was the same as the last time I went. Much lower quality of girls and the overall venue. Did take one home for an overnight who was cute but nothing great.
Stayed at my regular hotel Renaissance and it worked out well .. like the area and it is walkable to many restaurants and bars. Suite upgrades cleared beforehand and we had a nice suite with a total of three guests allowed. One night they checked the registrations of the girls and I had to add the third girl to SocratesNYs room but after that, they didnt say anything. They do charge a $45 per day extra guest fee.
Can't wait for my return trip!![/QUOTE]It has worked for me before and stated it in my last report. I tool a couple of numbers and I met one of the chicas at my hotel for less than 600 reals. You have to be patient and not be in a rush. In my last trip, I met a girl at who works both at Casarao and Scandallo. On my way out from Casarao stopped to talk to her as I noticed she had been 2 guys in quick sucsession. I told her she must an expert as she had 2 guys done so quickly, she replied itwasnt 2 guys, but three guys. I asked for her number and told her I would see her tommorow at Casarao and she replied She wouldn't be available as She would be working at Scandallo. Same girl Casarao 500 reals, Scandallo 1000 reals. You know which option I chose. She came to my hotel for 500 reals. No harm in trying.
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Never in advance
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3000896]I guess my question is why are you doing outcall? Go to the clubs. Scandallo. Casarao. Meet the girl in person. Check the chemistry. Fuck on site. Or bring her back to your room. You are in the best club scene on planet earth. Skip the web and prepayment. Go get a girl in person. There is no better city to do so and if you don't take advantage you will wish later you had.[/QUOTE]Never pay in advance. There are tonnes of girls available. Photoacompahantes, com, [URL]fatalmodel.com[/URL], [URL]gpguia.net[/URL], [URL]gparena.net[/URL] and so many other websites. The last two are Brazilian forums with reports and reviews. Also go to the prives and clinicas, clubs and massage parlours. See them live and take numbers. A lot of the pictures on websites are either photoshopped or old. What you order, might not be what you get. Do some research and be patient.
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[QUOTE=TattooedTuna;3000439]Finally getting around to writing this after a busy month dealing with personal matters. I won't repeat what's already covered extensively on the forumsjust sharing some key takeaways as a first-timer.
Accommodations.
I stayed in Moema & Vila Mariana, trying three hotels:
Wyndham Ibirapuera Convention Plaza Hotel.
Mercure So Paulo Moema Times Square.
Mercure So Paulo Grand Plaza Paulista.
All were GF-friendly and well-located, but airport noise in Moema is no joke. Compared to the Wyndham, the Mercure Moema Times Square was the better choice..[/QUOTE]The overnight girl was 700 R, typo.
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Yes Exit Fee
[QUOTE=Pneumoniall;3000947]Do I have to pay the bar fine before I can take the girl to my room?[/QUOTE]Yes the clubs have an exit fee if you take the girl out. It's not high. Scandallo is the highest and for good reason. It's $50 usd. Casarao is prob like $15/20.
They are a bit different arrangement. Casarao is def more a freelancers environment so more ymmv. Scandallo is technically all freelancers. But if you want to work there you better be top looks and top service or you won't last a week. Not saying you can't have a dud but its rare. For my money Globe in Switzerland is the only place worldwide where I feel 100%!guaranteed good service. But I'm going to say Scandallo is 90+%. As always ymmv.
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Guest friendly hotel
I am currently staying at Wyndham Sao Paulo Paulista near the shopping district on Avenida Paulista. It's a nice hotel for the price.
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Visit Scandallo
Went to Scandallo yesterday. Wow what a place! Probably the most beautiful women I've seen in one place, insanely many stunners. The club, personell and food was also nice.
I'm fully aware of that this is a luxury club, however I found the prices to be exceptionally high. With entry at 300 and 300 to rent a room to bring the girl. You've technically spent almost the price of a girl other places. Spoke with like 6-10 girls. Most of them demanded or started off with 2 k reais for one hour. And 3-5 k reais for saidas / outcalls. Ended up with one who accepted 1 k reais. Which was my absolute maximum, and I think this should be more than enough. Most of them ended up on 1.5.
All girls I spoke to said it was a slow evening night with not so many guys but many girls.
So beware to come her before 7 pm for a small reduction in price. 500 is way to much, not worth it is my personal opinion!
Anyone with inputs on pricing and girls in Scandallo? Anything below 1 k reais seemed difficult to impossible. Collected a couple of numbers.
Think I will go for som clinicas where I don't have to spent 600 before getting laid.
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Casarao every day is best bet
Tangara and 57 house is okay for a spa I guess. I did those 2 but never went back. Well I did go back to tangara but didn't select anyone. I did casarao virtually every night. Finding only Sunday and Monday slow. 400-700 for girl based on 1 HR, but 100 for the room. Entrance is 60 but you get 2 free beers so just say entrance is free.
[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;3001264]Went to Scandallo yesterday. Wow what a place! Probably the most beautiful women I've seen in one place, insanely many stunners. The club, personell and food was also nice.
I'm fully aware of that this is a luxury club, however I found the prices to be exceptionally high. With entry at 300 and 300 to rent a room to bring the girl. You've technically spent almost the price of a girl other places. Spoke with like 6-10 girls. Most of them demanded or started off with 2 k reais for one hour. And 3-5 k reais for saidas / outcalls. Ended up with one who accepted 1 k reais. Which was my absolute maximum, and I think this should be more than enough. Most of them ended up on 1.5.
All girls I spoke to said it was a slow evening night with not so many guys but many girls.
So beware to come her before 7 pm for a small reduction in price. 500 is way to much, not worth it is my personal opinion!
Anyone with inputs on pricing and girls in Scandallo? Anything below 1 k reais seemed difficult to impossible. Collected a couple of numbers.
Think I will go for som clinicas where I don't have to spent 600 before getting laid.[/QUOTE].
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Seconded
[QUOTE=Blakman;3001371]Tangara and 57 house is okay for a spa I guess. I did those 2 but never went back. Well I did go back to tangara but didn't select anyone. I did casarao virtually every night. Finding only Sunday and Monday slow. 400-700 for girl based on 1 HR, but 100 for the room. Entrance is 60 but you get 2 free beers so just say entrance is free.
.[/QUOTE]I went to Casarao and the quality was much better than previous trip and was consistent for 3 nights straight. All shapes and sizes and decent price. I went to Scandallo spent a few hours and left. Very ordinary looking girls and a few good looking ones. It was back to Casarao and left fulfilled. 600 reals versus 1600 reals. No brainer.
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Thanks for the very valuable tips my man! Would check out later, how's Sunday nights? Any girls below 20 years old. Naturan looking or a lot of sillycones like in Scandallo.
Loved that place (Scandallo) but to pay 300 to rent the room was hard for me to accept. Its like one night in a hotel.
[QUOTE=Tribute15;3001482]I went to Casarao and the quality was much better than previous trip and was consistent for 3 nights straight. All shapes and sizes and decent price. I went to Scandallo spent a few hours and left. Very ordinary looking girls and a few good looking ones. It was back to Casarao and left fulfilled. 600 reals versus 1600 reals. No brainer.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Pneumoniall;3001166]I am currently staying at Wyndham Sao Paulo Paulista near the shopping district on Avenida Paulista. It's a nice hotel for the price.[/QUOTE]How good is wifi in the room?
Do they have a laundry in the hotel?
Last time I stayed in Allure Moema. Hotel was good, wifi was very good (180 MB / s download, 120 MB / s upload), and they have laundry in the basement.
Unfortunately, airport noise make it impossible to work during daytime.
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Self service laundromat
[QUOTE=Guest19;3001602]How good is wifi in the room?
Do they have a laundry in the hotel?
Last time I stayed in Allure Moema. Hotel was good, wifi was very good (180 MB / s download, 120 MB / s upload), and they have laundry in the basement.
Unfortunately, airport noise make it impossible to work during daytime.[/QUOTE]It doesn't have a laundry machine in the guestroom but you can put all your clothes in the laundry bag and leave it in your room for the housekeeper to take care of it for you. I didn't utilize that service because it was quite expensive. I brought my clothes to the laundromat called Lavateria and do it myself instead. That's the closest one and the most convenience one I went to. It is located on the first floor at Fast Shopping Center 3. You have to pay with card to use the washer and the dryer. No laundry detergent needed because it comes with it and the instruction on how to use the machines is written in both English and Portuguese. This is the website [URL]https://instabio.cc/4061219zFINNV[/URL] If you come to Sao Paulo, I suggest you stay at the hotel near Avenida Paulista because it is a shopping center and a tourist attraction with lots of hotels, fancy restaurants, and luxurious shopping malls all located within walking distance. Avenida Paulista will be temporary closed to car traffic every Sunday for people to come out to walk, jog, ride a bike, rollerblade, skateboard, or scooter, get together, and check out the local vender booths along the street. This is the website of the hotel I am staying at [URL]https://www.wyndhamhotels.com/pt-br/wyndham/sao-paulo-brazil/wyndham-sao-paulo-paulista/overview[/URL]
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Scandallo question
I believe I ask this question before but no one addressed it. I went to scandallo just one time. It was a slow night confirmed very attractive ladies. But there were a few that approached me that I speculated where maybe men / transexual. So that's my question. Does Scandallo allow transexual women in their premises.
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Sao Paulo escort agency website
Has anyone hired an escort through this website? [URL]https://callgirlsinsaopaulo.com.br/[/URL]
If so, how did it go?
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Found the lineup to be good on Sunday night. Saw quite a few stunners. Outside street / Area around is shady though.
Totally a no brainer over Scandallo for me as well.
Both girl really beautiful. First one was a young 24 year old natural girl with a slim body with a really nice ass. Other one was close to 30, sillycones.
In the club she would do anything but anal as I understood it. When we came to my hotel she said no to pussylicking / rimming on her and fingering. She did owo and intense kissing with tongue. Girl was beautiful, but found her service to be rushed and not worth what I paid her. And yes I paid up front. What do you guys usually do when you do saidas from Casarao? She promised from 0130 to at least 04. When in the room she said one nut only and started to pack her things just before 03. Very disappointing to be honest, I shouldve made a scene out of it but its too late now. Would not recommend. The club itself is a really nice spot to visit for some fun in Sampa. Just my poor judging.
Sessioned with two girls one 1/2 session and one takeout.
400 for the first one and 1000 plus 150 in saida fee to the reception.
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[QUOTE=Pneumoniall;3001779]It doesn't have a laundry machine in the guestroom but you can put all your clothes in the laundry bag and leave it in your room for the housekeeper to take care of it for you. I didn't utilize that service because it was quite expensive. I brought my clothes to the laundromat called Lavateria and do it myself instead. That's the closest one and the most convenience one I went to. It is located on the first floor at Fast Shopping Center 3. You have to pay with card to use the washer and the dryer. No laundry detergent needed because it comes with it and the instruction on how to use the machines is written in both English and Portuguese. This is the website [URL]https://instabio.cc/4061219zFINNV[/URL] [/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply.
What about quality of wifi connection in the room?
If internet is not reliable in the room, I just cannot stay.
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Local SIM and Public WiFi
[URL]cpfgenerator.net[/URL]
Will make my first trip to SP soon, and wanted to get more clarity on the local SIM card situation. Having read many of the posts, Knowledge had posted this CPF generator that will provide a number to activate a SIM card and allow the use of public WiFi in places like shopping malls, etc. I've also read that you can go to a TIM store with your passport and they'll be able to fix you up.
Is it best and easiest to get a SIM at GRU? I usually do this at most international airports in the world without a problem, but I ran into problems in Rio a few years ago. I forgot to get set at the airport, and then went to Rio Sul mall after getting settled. The three cell stores I went to told me they couldn't help me since I wasn't a native or something. Very frustrating as none of them spoke English and they turned away and ignored me. Someone back at my hotel told me to go to one of the kiosks and they could fix me up. The kiosk guy had a friend there who spoke English, and they got me set up for cheap after 15 minutes or so.
So, the easiest way to avoid hassles and get set with a local SIM is to use a cell place at GRU and use a CPF generated number? Just trying to get this straight so I can use Uber and Google Maps right away and not feel hassled wasting time and energy. Other newbies are probably curious too. Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=Wanderer1000;3001880][URL]cpfgenerator.net[/URL]
Will make my first trip to SP soon, and wanted to get more clarity on the local SIM card situation. Having read many of the posts, Knowledge had posted this CPF generator that will provide a number to activate a SIM card and allow the use of public WiFi in places like shopping malls, etc. I've also read that you can go to a TIM store with your passport and they'll be able to fix you up.
Is it best and easiest to get a SIM at GRU? I usually do this at most international airports in the world without a problem, but I ran into problems in Rio a few years ago. I forgot to get set at the airport, and then went to Rio Sul mall after getting settled. The three cell stores I went to told me they couldn't help me since I wasn't a native or something. Very frustrating as none of them spoke English and they turned away and ignored me. Someone back at my hotel told me to go to one of the kiosks and they could fix me up. The kiosk guy had a friend there who spoke English, and they got me set up for cheap after 15 minutes or so.
So, the easiest way to avoid hassles and get set with a local SIM is to use a cell place at GRU and use a CPF generated number? Just trying to get this straight so I can use Uber and Google Maps right away and not feel hassled wasting time and energy. Other newbies are probably curious too. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Sometime ago, somebody recommended esim service.
[URL]https://www.airalo.com/brazil-esim[/URL]
Looks like it is little bit cheaper then t-mobile international plan.
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[QUOTE=Wanderer1000;3001880][URL]cpfgenerator.net[/URL]
Will make my first trip to SP soon, and wanted to get more clarity on the local SIM card situation. Having read many of the posts, Knowledge had posted this CPF generator that will provide a number to activate a SIM card and allow the use of public WiFi in places like shopping malls, etc. I've also read that you can go to a TIM store with your passport and they'll be able to fix you up.
Is it best and easiest to get a SIM at GRU? I usually do this at most international airports in the world without a problem, but I ran into problems in Rio a few years ago. I forgot to get set at the airport, and then went to Rio Sul mall after getting settled. The three cell stores I went to told me they couldn't help me since I wasn't a native or something. Very frustrating as none of them spoke English and they turned away and ignored me. Someone back at my hotel told me to go to one of the kiosks and they could fix me up. The kiosk guy had a friend there who spoke English, and they got me set up for cheap after 15 minutes or so.
So, the easiest way to avoid hassles and get set with a local SIM is to use a cell place at GRU and use a CPF generated number? Just trying to get this straight so I can use Uber and Google Maps right away and not feel hassled wasting time and energy. Other newbies are probably curious too. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]For TIM, you don't need a CPF, you could just buy it and activate it over the phone with your passport.
[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/Brazil/comments/188mc4r/comment/kbmn0by/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button[/URL]
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T-Mobile International Data Pass
I was looking to go with the T-Mobile International Data Pass. I haven't used it before, but I was told it's $50 for a month of Unlimited Calls & Texts to anywhere in the world, and 15 GB of high speed data.
The Brazil Airalo is $47 a month for 200 minutes talk, 200 texts, and 20 GB of Data. Not sure if the call minutes include international calls. Now that Skype is gone, I wanted a convenient service to call anywhere in the world when I'm in another country. Seems like the T-Mobile option may be better.
I'd like a local number in Brazil and a second phone, so maybe I'll do both. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Guest19;3001894]Sometime ago, somebody recommended esim service.
[URL]https://www.airalo.com/brazil-esim[/URL]
Looks like it is little bit cheaper then t-mobile international plan.[/QUOTE]
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No
[QUOTE=Pneumoniall;3001810]Has anyone hired an escort through this website? [URL]https://callgirlsinsaopaulo.com.br/[/URL]
If so, how did it go?[/QUOTE]I would stick with the most used and known sites.
Splove.
Private55.
Fatalmodels.
Never had a switch and bait with those.
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WiFi signal quality
[QUOTE=Guest19;3001866]Thanks for the reply.
What about quality of wifi connection in the room?
If internet is not reliable in the room, I just cannot stay.[/QUOTE]The WiFi is quite fast and reliable at this hotel too.
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[QUOTE=Wanderer1000;3001907]I was looking to go with the T-Mobile International Data Pass. I haven't used it before, but I was told it's $50 for a month of Unlimited Calls & Texts to anywhere in the world, and 15 GB of high speed data.[/QUOTE]There are two t-mobile plans: $35 for 10 days, 5 GB, and $50 for 30 days, 15 GB.
I used it in SP. It works fine.
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No Effin Way
[QUOTE=Blakman;3001808]I believe I ask this question before but no one addressed it. I went to scandallo just one time. It was a slow night confirmed very attractive ladies. But there were a few that approached me that I speculated where maybe men / transexual. So that's my question. Does Scandallo allow transexual women in their premises.[/QUOTE]There is no way there are trans women at Scandallo. Thought never crossed my mind.
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Day 1 thru 4 Casarao and 57 Friends
Day 1 Casarao (Friday).
60 consumption. Three stories of small real estate which could otherwise be a very large townhome on the east coast (US). Upstairs closed, bars on the main floor and downstairs, smoking area, packed, mostly nowhere to sit. Time is spent standing in a crowded room. Met someone, settled up, wristband to re-enter, exit the building to the hotel next door.
Blonde, petite, short, pretty but not preferably as thin, affectionate and fun. 50 for the room, 500 for her. Small room with a bathroom and shower. Clean and comfortable. There's a mirror on the ceiling. Starts with a long blowjob, she would have gone forever, rides me, flipped her on her back, she moves me to the edge of the bed to ride me reverse, wants me to see her from a mirror. Proceeded to blow me for the rest of the hour before needing to cleanup before the knock.
Long dark brown hair, tall, skinny, beautiful, cold in conversation but enthusiastic later. 100 for the room, 600 for her. Blows me for an eternity, rides me briefly but it's late and so I don't mind taking it easy, she decides to blow me again and doesn't stop for another eternity until our time is up. The mirrored ceiling.
Dark hair, speaks English, educated in London. We only talk. We're meeting for lunch this Thursday. Just lunch.
Day 2 and 3 Tourist.
Neighborhoods. Vila Madalena is just an area filled with crowded bars. I return to Moema for dinner. I'm a repeat visitor at an elegant restaurant a few blocks from my airbnb. They stay open late and empty the last two nights. Two bartenders cater to me personally while I have dinner, pour from a bottle, keep to myself, read.
At closing, the bartender, whom I've only communicated only through an app, puts her number in my phone if I have questions about the neighborhood. She then tells me she's off in 20 if I would like company as long as I take care of her uber home. I wait outside for air. The other bartender comes out to wait with me but to also let me know she's joining. I wait another minute, tell her this is complicated, leave.
Day 4 57 Friends.
It's 7, I've decided to revisit Casarao. It's slow so I head to 57 friends. From research, it transitions into a club around this time and so a seemingly good place to pass time. Check-in, no cover, offered a lineup or relax. I choose the latter. It's pleasantly empty. Me, two other dudes, one on his phone, another chatting a girl. Smaller area in the front with a bar and large area in the rear filled with seating, pool table, outdoor smoking area. Order a glass if wine and It's a very generous pour.
Short, petite, slim, jet black hair, kind and friendly. Introduces herself with a kiss on the cheek. She smells remarkable which isn't personally important but couldn't help but notice. She leaves to sit in a corner by herself. I join her after my first glass. We only communicate through an app. We're having fun. I offer her a drink but she declines. I never make it to Casarao.
1000 for her for the night and an exit fee which was some incidental amount I don't remember. She leads us to a restaurant a few blocks away for appetizers and drinks. She calls an uber. We're back at my place by 10 and immediately leads us to the shower. She keeps me up until 3 am for continuous fun including exploring every inch of the bed. We sleep. At 6 am, she wakes me. She wants more. Insatiable. After, as the sun had come up, wants to know if I would prefer her to leave so I can rest. We sleep more and she calls herself an uber at 10 am.
Day 5.
I'm in the courtyard of my property and meet the host. Her father, whom I had also met, wants to give me a tour of the city. I have plans tomorrow. I'm also invited to an afternoon home cooked Sunday afternoon family meal. I now have plans this Sunday. Headed to 57 later not because I expect to find another unicorn. Just a place to relax and adamant to make it to Casarao.
Clinic.
Subscribe to Tangara, 57, Yankin, Morumbi Lux for WhatsApp status. Miruna, Abbobora, others insist only after the first visit which I have not done.
Data.
Claro, picked up an activated SIM from the Ibirapuera mall, 1st floor. Sim was 10 and "top-up" available from Claro or any pharmacy. 40 for 12 GB. I've been using 1 GB per day. Will need to top-up once more for another 40. My US cell plan texted an offer for $10 USD daily or 1085 real for the entire trip.
International adapter.
City Coisas in the Ibirapuera mall, 2nd floor.
Lodging.
Airbnb in Moema. It's quiet and peaceful. Windows are not double pane. Inside, I can't hear the airplanes above.
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Yes there are
I've seen trans women in Scandallo, twice in the last 12 years. Remember discrimination is a serious crime in Brazil, so maybe they don't want to risk a super expensive lawsuit.
The one I remember and I can tell from direct contact was 2013 one year before the soccer world championship and there were qualifiying games on the LCDs. I ended a session with a slim brown hair beauty from southern Brazil in one of the rooms of Scandallo, we went back together to outdoor bar and we were talking of going up again. Yes, we were drinking together at the same beat, and there was chemistry.
Then I see this impressive, tall, super athletic trans, yes, she was truly impressive, with ultra high heels and miniskirt and I have no shame to say it because of the feminine touch she had. I'm a visual producer and I love exotic beauty. I immediately thought on a fashion portrait ... i know agents who love those faces and looks.
So I dismissed the girl from Porto Alegre, she didn't complain at all and she had the kindness to bring this sculpture to my table and left us alone. And of course, the strong voice of a man is what I heard when she sat and crossed her legs. I invited her / him a drink and spent maybe 20 minutes talking. I gave her a R100 tip and she gave me her personal card because I offered her a photoshoot. She / he was a kind person.
From the countless times I've been to scandallo I saw trans twice, the second time it was not so impressive so I didn't have this visual attraction.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;3002063]There is no way there are trans women at Scandallo. Thought never crossed my mind.[/QUOTE]Agree, dude garotas that works in Scandallo need to pass the interview with managers plus fotos, checks of beauty, hottie or not. Etc. Some garotas when speaking Portuguese the pronunciation can sound more masculine than femine to US ears. Plus Tons of scandallo garotas do heavy duty muscular workouts you can follow them on instagram to see their body sculpture regime.
Shit I had to leave a hot threesome near the DJ booth to go downstairs to the lobby to vouch for a damn fine cutie to enter the place. Her uber pickup was late.
There is no upside for bait and switch of gender there.
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I don't doubt your encounter back in 2013, but currently only "real" biological women are allowed to work in Scandallo. I reached out to 2 different managers and the head waiter at the club and they all told me the same. Only biological women are allowed to work in Scandallo.
Girls go through a pretty thorough interview process before they are allowed to work there and not all girls make the cut. I knew this really pretty spinner with an amazing body from another boate that would totally kill at Scandallo looks wise. She was also super sweet and had a great personality. She went for an interview and they rejected her as she wasn't refined or put together enough or too inexperienced. They offered to have her start at their sister club Connections first before graduating to Scandallo.
Could a girl sneak in and work there with a fake ID? Of course! I know of at least 3-4 girls who started working at Scandallo in the mid to late 2010's when they were just 16-17 years old ith fake IDs. The same logic can apply to faking their biological "sex" on a fake ID.
Brazil does have strong discrimination laws and is very LGBT+ friendly, but a club like Scandallo have enough connections and powerful clients visiting that they don't really worry about these kind of lawsuits much. Civilian girls of all types who want to visit the club as just regular clients just to "check it out" are denied entry all the time.
I did meet a few trans girls at Casarao back in late 2023 or early 2024. They were a group of 3 hanging out at the downstairs area between the end of the bar and the start of the couches. Directly in front of the entrance to the smoking room. 2 were obviously LGBT, but the 3rd was a super cute and very feminine looking spinner. I figured she was probably just a leabian. When I tried to strike up a conversation with her she held up her hand and tried to warn me by saying "Sweetchy", which is how they pronounce the word "Switch". I had no idea what she meant, so she had to elaborate that she was a transexual! Got to love the cute Portuguese slangs and how they add an extra syllable to many words!
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Scandallo trans
I believe from a month stay in pattaya and 8 month in medellin. I know a trans when I see one. And I believe while I was enjoying my steak dinner at least 2 said Hello, in which I quickly dismissed after a thorough look. I won't say it was obvious because I was looking kinda hard to be convinced he wasnt a she. But I could not be convinced. No big deal. Just not my thing along with scandallo prices. But I will return just to eat and women watch.
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Complete newbie for Brazil / Sao Paulo
I read this thread, there are some details. However I cannot find a write-up that has initiation information. I have a lot of experience in Tijuana and Mexico in general, Africa and Thailand. I did travel to South East Asia extensively for work matters and lived in Japan for some time.
My question is.
What is visiting Brazil like, as a sex tourist?
Can one survive with good Spanish knowledge but 0 ability in Brazilian / Portuguese?
What are the people like, specially those you encounter in the mongering areas, in clubs, etc.
Are they nicely out going and bubbly and welcoming like Mexicans, or proud and distant like the Japanese?
Are they judgmental or inviting specially to foreigners who are there to fack their women for money?
Do they like you fun outgoing while being opinionated or be quiet and polite?
Is tipping customary and is it much appreciated like it is in Mexico?
What is a good amount of tip, to a bar tender, to a door man, to a food server, to a hotel room clean up person?
What are the things frowned upon, e. G alcohol in public and seen too close to drug dealers, / These are issues one has to watch for in Tijuana.
How safe is the mongering areas? I read about gang related violence in Sao Paulo.
Is the mongering activity concentrated around a specific area, or strewn all around town?
Are there specific music / dance / strip clubs known to have women who cater to mongers openly like we have in Thailand and Mexico?
Do these clubs, if they exist, have attached Hotel to take the women up, as conveniently customary in Thai and Mexico's Red light zones?
Are there massage parlous like we have in Colombia which are actually preferred by many mongers who go there, specially now a days.
Is cheating a problem, like giving you a wrong change at Hotel counters and Bars like we have in Tijuana.
Are the Hotels trust worthy, meaning if you reserve it online say Expedia, would they honor that?
I am not going to ask about the women, as I believe they are the same everywhere.
In any case these are the things I wanted to know, initially, as I continue the research about Brazil as a destination.
Regards.
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Bruh
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;3002400]I read this thread, there are some details. However I cannot find a write-up that has initiation information. I have a lot of experience in Tijuana and Mexico in general, Africa and Thailand. I did travel to South East Asia extensively for work matters and lived in Japan for some time.
My question is.
What is visiting Brazil like, as a sex tourist?
Can one survive with good Spanish knowledge but 0 ability in Brazilian / Portuguese /?
What are the people like, specially those you encounter in the mongering areas, in clubs, etc.
Are they nicely out going and bubbly and welcoming like Mexicans, or proud and distant like the Japanese?
Are they judgemental or inviting specially to foreigners who are there to fack their women for money?
Do they like you fun outgoing while being opinionated or be quiet and polite?
Is tipping customary and is it much appreciated like it is in Mexico?
What is a good amount of tip, to a bar tender, to a door man, to a food server, to a hotel room clean up person?.[/QUOTE]You clearly have not RTFF well enough! These kinds of questions have been answered time and again in the Brazil threads. Suggest you read the Reports of Distinction in-depth and come back asking informed, targeted questions versus producing a laundry list of questions like this and then just sitting back and watching expecting other people to do all the work for you.
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[QUOTE=Blakman;3002366] I won't say it was obvious because I was looking kinda hard to be convinced he wasnt a she. But I could not be convinced.[/QUOTE]I think it is unlikely you will see two there in one night. Besides most are not passable like In Thailand.
There are some girls just not very attractive, anyway you look at it and you can still get them at 500 if you see them. So the interview means not much. Then there are friends of the working girls and they don't seem to need interview to work there one or two nights. There are girls sent by agency. There are just what I have been told by the girls I met. There seems to be some exception to the rules.
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[QUOTE=Blakman;3002366]I believe from a month stay in pattaya and 8 month in medellin. I know a trans when I see one. And I believe while I was enjoying my steak dinner at least 2 said Hello, in which I quickly dismissed after a thorough look. I won't say it was obvious because I was looking kinda hard to be convinced he wasnt a she. But I could not be convinced. No big deal. Just not my thing along with scandallo prices. But I will return just to eat and women watch.[/QUOTE]I can pretty much assure you that they weren't trans. I know that there are some women in Scandello who are into the muscular bodybuilding and they might be taking testosterone so that might change their voice and their look slightly. I steer away from them as that is not my vibe. I will usually see a few that are super built and defined and when I walk by and hear their voice, it is definitely deeper than the girls I talk to.
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São Paulo Day 1
I'm a week in to my Brazil trip and going to try to recount it all. But man there is so much. Think I fucked 8 girls so far but we will see when I finish the account here. I am traveling with my wingman Mark and that turned out to be a great call.
Our first day we had a free afternoon before Mark was meeting his first regular girl and. Started at 57 Friends house for some pool and perhaps daytime action. Well there was some magnificent pool played but there was only o e girl — slightly thick and we didn't partake.
We hadn't done the day scene at Scan but how bad can it be at the best girls club on the planet. The answer is not bad at all! Not nearly the scale of the nighttime scene but plenty of choice. We mostly chilled but eventually two girls chatted us up that we were interested in.
Mark took a buxom blonde and reported she was great in the room. I took a slim brunette and that turned out to be a mistake. I never both discussing condom because it's Scan but she was a total biatch in the room insisting CBJ "for both our safety". I went to leave -said I'the give her 500 and just bag it — but I guess she wanted the whole thing. She acquiesced but the entire mood was ruined. Managed to wank one out. Boo. False start.
It got much better from here. Mark had to leave for his date. But I've navigated Acan alone many times. I bought myself a bottle of Tanquery and Red Bull and tonic mixers and prepared for my own party. I socialized with several girls but settled in with fit pixie Iara on the big patio. We musta just drank and smoked cigars for over an hour. What a great girl. And soooo fit. With a tight little tummy.
Eventually we went to the room and it was very very good. BBBJ as it should be and plenty of good fucking. I could t cum and we ran over the hour but brownie points for trying.
I am drinking like a fish and quite lit when Mark returns post-date at maybe 1 am? We have moved to the dance floor area and have a great time. Just taking in the scene and talking g to various girls. As the clock strikes 4 am Mark and I both grab a girl. My girl Bianca has great tits and good room action. And I manage to blow my stack around the 5 Am mark.
So we arrived Scan at 2 pm and shut her down at 5 am! Fifteen hours of debauchery. Think that's a new record. And three girls. The next night we both bagged three girls as well. But with a real unique spin. Stay tuned!
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;3002569]We hadn't done the day scene at Scan but how bad can it be at the best girls club on the planet. The answer is not bad at all! Not nearly the scale of the nighttime scene but plenty of choice. We mostly chilled but eventually two girls chatted us up that we were interested in.
Mark took a buxom blonde and reported she was great in the room. I took a slim brunette and that turned out to be a mistake. I never both discussing condom because it's Scan but she was a total biatch in the room insisting CBJ "for both our safety". I went to leave -said I'the give her 500 and just bag it but I guess she wanted the whole thing. She acquiesced but the entire mood was ruined. Managed to wank one out. Boo. False start.
It got much better from here. Mark had to leave for his date. But I've navigated Acan alone many times. I bought myself a bottle of Tanquery and Red Bull and tonic mixers and prepared for my own party. I socialized with several girls but settled in with fit pixie Iara on the big patio. We musta just drank and smoked cigars for over an hour. What a great girl. And soooo fit. With a tight little tummy.
Eventually we went to the room and it was very very good. BBBJ as it should be and plenty of good fucking. I could t cum and we ran over the hour but brownie points for trying.
I am drinking like a fish and quite lit when Mark returns post-date at maybe 1 am? We have moved to the dance floor area and have a great time. Just taking in the scene and talking g to various girls. As the clock strikes 4 am Mark and I both grab a girl. My girl Bianca has great tits and good room action. And I manage to blow my stack around the 5 Am mark.
So we arrived Scan at 2 pm and shut her down at 5 am! Fifteen hours of debauchery. Think that's a new record. And three girls. The next night we both bagged three girls as well. But with a real unique spin. Stay tuned![/QUOTE]I don't really follow the Sao Paulo thread, but I've understood that Scandallo is a must for the US newbie mongers. More or less like Love story back in the days. 500 reais for a CBJ seems strange to me, but never mind. Three girls at "Scan" sounds great. However, you didn't mention the cost. My only question why you mixed Tanqueray with Red Bull?
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Casarao trans friendly
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;3002364]I don't doubt your encounter back in 2013, but currently only "real" biological women are allowed to work in Scandallo. I reached out to 2 different managers and the head waiter at the club and they all told me the same. Only biological women are allowed to work in Scandallo.
I did meet a few trans girls at Casarao back in late 2023 or early 2024. They were a group of 3 hanging out at the downstairs area between the end of the bar and the start of the couches. Directly in front of the entrance to the smoking room. 2 were obviously LGBT, but the 3rd was a super cute and very feminine looking spinner. I figured she was probably just a leabian. When I tried to strike up a conversation with her she held up her hand and tried to warn me by saying "Sweetchy", which is how they pronounce the word "Switch". I had no idea what she meant, so she had to elaborate that she was a transexual! Got to love the cute Portuguese slangs and how they add an extra syllable to many words![/QUOTE]Damn I remembered the same. Casarao is trans friendly for sure. Yup there is / was a group of three that hang out in the downstairs back bar. I overheard them saying switchee switchee, filed it away as the augusta area is switchee friendly. I was more worried when couple of moema clinica garotas and I went to swingy club. Saw bunch of naked people doing an orgy in an omnibus. Too dark to know for sure but I am not on the investigation committee kkkkk.
Bolted after a quick tour. Not my type of spot.
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Vagabundo went to casarao with a prive / clinca girl in Nov. 2019. She wanted to compare herself with the more upscale talent.
Thanks for the warning. Lots of trans work at mabs in copa in rio too, one of which hit on a ISG er successfully to the extent that he almost did a program, but a black girl, fanny, a 4 x4 girl and passista I have known forever warned him off, for which he gave her a nice tip which made her happy, she like danced, her big natural tits swinging about, a nice thought. I fucked fanny back in November 2019 too.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3002594]Damn I remembered the same. Casarao is trans friendly for sure. Yup there is / was a group of three that hang out in the downstairs back bar. I overheard them saying switchee switchee, filed it away as the augusta area is switchee friendly. I was more worried when couple of moema clinica garotas and I went to swingy club. Saw bunch of naked people doing an orgy in an omnibus. Too dark to know for sure but I am not on the investigation committee kkkkk.
Bolted after a quick tour. Not my type of spot.[/QUOTE]
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Sure, 2 trans in 12 years and having been there much more than 50 times. They are very rare exceptions in Scandallo. A glitch in the security, in the matrix.
Newbies shouldn't be afraid of bait and switchy hahahaha.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;3002364]I don't doubt your encounter back in 2013, but currently only "real" biological women are allowed to work in Scandallo. I reached out to 2 different managers and the head waiter at the club and they all told me the same. Only biological women are allowed to work in Scandallo...[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;3002569]I took a slim brunette and that turned out to be a mistake. I never both discussing condom because it's Scan but she was a total biatch in the room insisting CBJ "for both our safety". I went to leave -said I'the give her 500 and just bag it but I guess she wanted the whole thing. She acquiesced but the entire mood was ruined. Managed to wank one out. Boo. False start.
[/QUOTE]Picking duds tend to happen often for 1st pop of the trip with small head in full control of thinking. I think sharing her details would help others avoid her.
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I try to keep an open mind but this situation makes me appreciate being a bottom feeding practitioner. Full disclosure, I haven't been to Scandallo more than two or three times since the 2010's when co workers would drag me there during pretty frequent business trips. Back in those days I don't think I ever saw a trans. In the many more visits I've payed to mid and low tier clinicas and prives around town, I still haven't seen a trans. I don't consider myself homophobic. I just don't want to have sex with men or trans women.
[QUOTE=Blakman;3002366]I believe from a month stay in pattaya and 8 month in medellin. I know a trans when I see one. And I believe while I was enjoying my steak dinner at least 2 said Hello, in which I quickly dismissed after a thorough look. I won't say it was obvious because I was looking kinda hard to be convinced he wasnt a she. But I could not be convinced. No big deal. Just not my thing along with scandallo prices. But I will return just to eat and women watch.[/QUOTE]
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Off the Hook Sunday
Although it's common knowledge that Sundays suck in Brasil, and it's best to have a date. But Casarao is open and if you go late it is a rockin good time. Or do a date THEN Casarao. That's what we did. Possibly most epic night of my girls life. Here's how it went down.
Even though the club scene in SP is the best worldwide, I enjoy a "real" date, so I had been scanning Seeking for several weeks. It always takes a while to find the winners but I found two that I thought fit the bill and set one for Sun and one for Monday.
Mark and I planned a double date for Sunday night. Him with a regular of his and me with my Seeking number 1 pick. Very pretty girl just like her pics. I was not disappointed.
Had dinner around 8 and it was so fun. Marks girl speaks outstanding English and my girl almost none. So having Marks girl there really made dinner enjoyable with a lot more lively conversation. Our dates got in like a house on fire.
Started slow chemistry but eventually we were eye gazing and holding hands across the table. Lots of laughter. It was clear it was on. (As Seeking girls can decline after dinner).
The room time was great. Small girl but she has a great body, with an augmented chest but very natural. And OMG that Brasileira bunda. Nothing like it anywhere but here. She's quite a pro in the room (in a good way) and we have a great time. She's a bit over the top in the vocals, some of which are clearly fake so I prob won't repeat. This just goes to show how high the bar is in SP. Any other place I'the say she was a solid triple and would repeat. But not in São Paulo.
We wrapped up about 11:30 and Mark wrapped his as well. So we went to sleep. Not! We headed to Casarao where the party is just starting at that time. We are meeting Socrates and one of the waiters from Scandallo there. Both are great guys.
As usual it's very slow to start but then gets hopping. By 1 AM on a Sunday it's indistinguishable from any other day of the week. Absolutely packed. We chatted up a few girls that I don't remember much. But at some point I head downstairs and am lightning struck by another pixie. Tiny little girl but with a smile and energy that will rock your world.
OMG we had so much fun. Pounding drinks. Smoking vape. Cigarettes on the patio. Dancing like two fools. Just the best time. I loooove it when you hit the vibe with a girl and there was no question here. And she is just like me. Couldn't give one single fuck what anyone thinks. Dancing like maniacs without a care in the world.
At some point the rest of the guys come down and we all hang out and somewhere along the way Mark snags a girl. Even more petite than mine. 4-11 on a good day. And Mark is 6-3. So they are quite the couple.
After a bit more fun in the club, me and Mark grab our girls and head back to the hotel. 1000 R each girl. In a stroke of absolute fucking genius, as we exit the cab I say "should we go to two rooms or just one" and surprisingly everyone says one is fine. So our first MMFF Quadra is on!
In a bit of backstory, neither Mark nor I had done a true MMFF session before. We had come perilously close to a MMF with a Seeking girl in Mexico (great story — see that thread) but it didn't happen. But we had discussed how it's just like close up porn — we're not going to cross swords. So we are all four down!
Holy fuck. It is perhaps the most fun I've ever had fucking. And that's saying something! I surely don't remember it all but there are some highlights. My girl K is wearing a form fitting dress with no panties. And in no time she is dancing naked. And before long we are all naked and making out. It starts out with each guy staying with his girl but that's going to change.
K blows me super nice and then we start fucking with a condom. I have a clean STD and a vasectomy but she's having none of it and insists on condom. Mark is the DATY master and has his girl going, so I am all over that as well and that musta done the trick. Because a few moments later as Marks tiny pixie fucks the bejesus out of him BBFS, my girl acquiesced to bareback and I slide in. Wow.
The lack of condoms anywhere in sight proves to be pivotal in the encounter as we end up swapping partners several times. My girl K is the life of the party and has a perfect spinner body and to die for firm bee cups. And of course the Brasileira bunda! Marks girl see is even more petite but really beautiful. The fact that she can take Mark with her tiny frame is absolutely logic defying. But man she is a fucking trooper.
I remember both me and Mark sitting at end of the bed and each getting blown by their girl on her knees. Then there is a switch. Both are good but see is outstanding. Later we have the doggie duo. Both girls in doggie on the bed facing each other and Mark and me standing behind each pounding away. An air high five is exchanged and then the signal to swap. And we do!
It is mind blowing to swap and feel the difference in BJ and pussy and just the wild decadence of it all. After maybe 1. 5 hours of non stop action, K throws in the towel She has literally been fucked into a coma. But see rocks on. She's totally exhausted but refuses to leave her men hanging.
Mark is doing her DATY on his knees at the edge of the bed and I am softly wanking just watching her get off. He's very good at it and before long she is having a strong O and backstroking up the bed to escape the sensory overload. But Mark is having none of it and has his arms around her legs forcing her to go through the waves!
She's making some progress on the backstroke, so good wingman that I am, I pin her to the bed by puttting my cock in her mouth! She gladly obliged and starts an epic BJ while getting eaten. You can tell this is just absolutely heightening the experience and her mind blown!
In the end, I get my nut as K is face down completely spent but Mark is aggressively finger fucking her from behind. It's goddamn sexy as fuck and her brasileira bunda bouncing furiously. I wank one out on her shoulder, taking care to move her hair before impact. I am such a nice guy!
We all four collapse in the bed and I get the lucky sandwich spot between see and K and sleep the sleep of the dead. No lie. Wow. That was an experience of a lifetime.
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Is there anything else in SF aside from Scandalo?
Most of us are not rich and will probably skip Scandalo and their high prices. Is there anything in Sao Paolo comparable to Casa New Life in Medellin where you can bang a top beauty for $20? Much appreciated.
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Sao Paolo or Rio
For those wondering about traveling to Sao Paolo or Rio, I will confirm that there is a much higher level in Sao Paolo if it is primarily the ladies that attract you.
4 X4, Montecarlo and Solarium in Rio were a tragedy compared to what I remember from a few years ago. I didn't have time to try Santaurus, but it is probably still the best.
I had my glory days at Help disco and Scandalo in Sao Paolo can't compare to the sexy atmosphere that was there even though Scandalo is definitely the best now. I missed sitting at an outdoor restaurant watching the lovely ladies sit around and start negotiating with horny like-minded people.
I tried Copa Cobana below the Hilton. Here there were lots of hot ladies ready for action before. Now there was nothing to pick up.
Is there no action at the beach anymore?
And aren't there any cool cafes where the ladies operate?
I was going to try Friends in Sao Paolo and it was closed. The security guard told me about a place nearby called Zeus Bar Show. [URL]www.zeusbar.com.br[/URL].
I took a taxi 2 minutes and the place is a disaster. Not a single fuckable babe.
Steer clear!
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Closed places
[QUOTE=James006;3003407]For those wondering about traveling to Sao Paolo or Rio, I will confirm that there is a much higher level in Sao Paolo if it is primarily the ladies that attract you.
I was going to try Friends in Sao Paolo and it was closed. The security guard told me about a place nearby called Zeus Bar Show. [URL]www.zeusbar.com.br[/URL].
I took a taxi 2 minutes and the place is a disaster. Not a single fuckable babe.
Steer clear![/QUOTE]When arriving to find a place closed, hop on to gp-guia to find late night alternatives open to 5 am with recommendations.
Those gpgpua recommendations tend to be slightly more reliable because dudes are write reports when the place sucks (zeus) or discovering a different late night spot (espaco vergueiro).
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Guarulhos recommendations
Hey guys, I love all the posts and activity!
Does anyone have any recommendations for a place to go or girls close to GRU tomorrow? I was hoping to make it down to Scandallo, but that's not going to happen.
Still, with all the traffic around the GRU airport, it seems reasonable that there would be some options around there. Replies or DMs welcome.
As a side note, I'll have a good report on Curitiba coming soon!
Thanks!
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Amazing GFE w Nat
At the end of my trip in November I was smitten by my very last girl of the trip, Nat. I saw her in the restaurant at Scandallo and lightning struck. I don't know how you can see 200 girls that night and yet one just lights you up. Her eyes. Her smile. Perfection.
I told her I liked her and wanted to see her after her dinner but I got entangled with another girl and Nat had to stalk me for like two hours but eventually it was on and amazing. Dancing naked on the bed. Twerking. Energy off the charts. Just a force of nature. Amazing PSE GFE combo. Got her number for follow up.
The last few months we chatted a lot and I even almost flew her to Europe but she couldn't get her passport in time. So this visit even tho I had Seeking girls lined up and Scan and Casarao to visit I was determined to squeeze her in. LOL.
In a flash of brilliance I figure out I can schedule her for a lunch date and go to Scandallo afterwards! What a fucking horn dog. But clearly a great plan.
Well in true Brasileira fashion it's more like 4 pm when she's able to come for lunch. We meet at a restaurant just around the corner from my hotel. OMFG. When she prances up in her high heels and tight red dress it's boner central.
We have drinks and snacks and reconnect like a house on fire. Lots of eye gazing and hand holding and fuck the chemistry is electric. At some point I have the amazing idea that we could repeat the double date concept at Seen (BTW if you have never been to Seen the combo of food and view is stunning). So I text Mark and see if he and his girl are down and then ask Nat and she's all in!
We head back to the hotel to kill some time and the chemistry takes over immediately. Clothes are shed and I am soon viewing one of the most spectacular bodies on earth. Perfectly toned stomach and legs. Perfect brasileira bunda and amazing natural D cups. You do not see this combo often. Her smile is too stunning for words as well.
The sex is hot and amazing. All the usual trimmings, including oral both ways, the Steve and more. Despite 7 girls in the rearview she manages to coax a nice shot. And then it's off to dinner at Seen.
You can tell she's never been to a place like this before. She's all girlish giggles taking a picture of the Seen sign at the entry and even a video of the bathroom that she posts on her insta! Hahaha.
Dinner is great and comfortable. Mark and I try to pretend we weren't just there two nights ago with two different girls! But Nat is the winner by far and my new 100% crush despite being blessed with many awesome girls worldwide.
After lots of drinks and dinner we are back at the room for round two. I'll spare you the details except to say she got a second shot from me, despite many girls unable to get a single one. Goddess!
She also has a great girlfriendy vibe, drawing a tub afterwards and encouraging me to join her. The post sex vibe in the tub is the stuff dreams are made of.
We make plans to see each other again Thursday my only free night. I was saving it for Scan but she slays me sufficiently that I'the skip Scan for her. Oddly I don't have to as you will see shortly.
Next day Mark and I are repeating our MMFF with see and K. And it's prob no spoiler alert to tell you it was fucking fantastic. K is equally bubbly as before and dancing naked in no time. See goes to take a shower and K is left with me and Mark.
She pushes Mark on his back and starts sucking his dick. Her amazing ass in the air just two feet from me and pussy beckoning. So I lose my undies and slide in standing while she blows Mark. OMG. It is the sexiest thing.
Eventually see emerges from the bath to find us 100% fucking up a storm without her! I think she was a bit surprised but doesn't miss a beat before joining the action. I honestly don't remember it all this time except there are some videos that should never see the light of day!
We all aren't quite as lit as the first time so it's only 90% as good. But that's better than almost every other sexual experience. Highly recommend you get over any homophobia and bang out an MMFF with your best friend!
Of course sexual deviants that we are, we tell the girls we are very tired and send them on their way and head to Scandallo! This is great because I can pick up the Scan night I forewent for Nat.
We arrive pretty late. Maybe 12 or later. It's hopping busy with tons of girls and guys and a DJ. I had bought a bottle Saturday and still had a half which they hold, so we call for that.
It's the best getting a bottle. The waiter is suddenly like an offensive linesman, clearing the way, alert and on the prowl and eventually secures a table that a couple of low brow beer drinkers were squatting on. Hahahah. It's good to be the King.
We are at our table maybe 30 minutes when who bops by? Nat of course. And wearing the short leather skirt and tight crop top that she was wearing when she left me that morning. Kkkk. She looks AMAZING.
Now if either you or your girl are non pro this could be awkward. For us it's an amazing serendipity. We are both thrilled to see each other and make the most of it. We spend the next 2 hours just dancing and grinding like maniacs. The energy is off the charts.
We grab a room and fuck like bunnies. But with full sized junk. Obviously it's a super comfy vibe at this point and we have a great time.
We had already planned another date the next day and we are still going to do that. We are still in that honeymoon phase where we can't get enough time together.
Pregaming with Mark at the hotel bar, while we are drinking I have an epiphany. He's going out with his girl and me with mine. Why not double date again (no it doesn't turn into a foursome but next time it might. His girl is naughty as fuck).
We go to Dinhos which is high end steak. OMG. Def go there. Even the veggies are fucking fantastic. But the Picanha and esp their special cut is amazing. Everyone has a blast.
Back in the room more of the same. Including the bubble bath finish. There is also a part where she is washing my back that is so sub and girlfriendy that I just love it.
She stays thru lunch the next day, with another round of great morning sex, but alas I must get my flight. Wow that girl. Mega crush. I will def try to travel her once her passport clears.
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5 days to go
Before arriving, I wondered if Brazilian women resembled the pictures I found online. Bursting at the seams, able to deadlift a Buick. To the contrary, all I've spent time with have been slim, beautiful.
Casarao.
Visited most nights apart from a few evenings in between without partying and one night at 57 friends where I met someone who left with me by 9 to stay the night. Seems understood an hour is 500 and / or 1000 to leave and stay the night. The rooms are 50 or 100 and can only guess it's based on availability. But really, it's an incidental difference.
Overnight can be 6 am or late morning. Ask what they mean by overnight. 6 am may be preferable. Late morning sometimes works as well, depending. In other words:
10:00 open, 11:00 still an empty wasteland, 11:30 you may meet someone to find a room, 12:00 acquainted, settle on logistics to head to the room. Look up and it's a different club filled with women but you've already committed. 01:30 back from the room.
If you see where this is going, either you find someone immediately and it's midnight or 3 am by the time you're back at your place and they may already plan to leave by 6. One evening, I did run into someone 11. I thoroughly enjoyed her company and she stayed over until after midnight the next day.
Clinics.
Miruna, Yankin, Palms, Lotus, Oro, Moema, Lakshmi, Abbobora. Spent a day touring all and was a disappointment and did not stay based on lineups and iPad presentations. Opted out. Wandered to a bar for craft beer before heading to dinner.
Online.
Do not bother. I made an appointment, she even sent additional pictures to confirm. Door opened and it was a different person who looked like she swallowed the person I was supposed to meet. I do not doubt others have been more fortunate but I didn't care for the gamble when you can just meet them in person.
Headed to the beach for five days with my favorite from this trip before flying back home.
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You can get an eSIM online (saily and others). It's convenient an you don't need to deal with it at the airport after a long flight.
[QUOTE=Wanderer1000;3001880][URL]cpfgenerator.net[/URL]
Will make my first trip to SP soon, and wanted to get more clarity on the local SIM card situation. Having read many of the posts, Knowledge had posted this CPF generator that will provide a number to activate a SIM card and allow the use of public WiFi in places like shopping malls, etc. I've also read that you can go to a TIM store with your passport and they'll be able to fix you up.
Is it best and easiest to get a SIM at GRU? I usually do this at most international airports in the world without a problem, but I ran into problems in Rio a few years ago. I forgot to get set at the airport, and then went to Rio Sul mall after getting settled. The three cell stores I went to told me they couldn't help me since I wasn't a native or something. Very frustrating as none of them spoke English and they turned away and ignored me. Someone back at my hotel told me to go to one of the kiosks and they could fix me up. The kiosk guy had a friend there who spoke English, and they got me set up for cheap after 15 minutes or so.
So, the easiest way to avoid hassles and get set with a local SIM is to use a cell place at GRU and use a CPF generated number? Just trying to get this straight so I can use Uber and Google Maps right away and not feel hassled wasting time and energy. Other newbies are probably curious too. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
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Good experience in Guarulhos with Larissa from Fatal Models
Just a quick review about a fun time I had with Larissa from Fatal Models. On my way out of town, I had a free evening around the GRU airport. Without many options handy (Apice closed at 8 PM), I decided to roll the dice with an escort. After checking out a few options on Fatal Model, I settled on Larissa ([URL]https://fatalmodel.com/acompanhante/972332/larissa-prado-972332[/URL]). 31 years old with perky natural breaks, light skin, and an expertise in massage. For 400 BRL plus Ubers she was at my hotel. Gave a great nuru massage and finished well. Definitely recommended if you're looking for something to do before your flight.
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CHATGPT can answer your questions better than us.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;3002400]I read this thread, there are some details. However I cannot find a write-up that has initiation information. I have a lot of experience in Tijuana and Mexico in general, Africa and Thailand. I did travel to South East Asia extensively for work matters and lived in Japan for some time.
My question is.
What is visiting Brazil like, as a sex tourist?
Can one survive with good Spanish knowledge but 0 ability in Brazilian / Portuguese?
What are the people like, specially those you encounter in the mongering areas, in clubs, etc.
Are they nicely out going and bubbly and welcoming like Mexicans, or proud and distant like the Japanese?
Are they judgmental or inviting specially to foreigners who are there to fack their women for money?
Do they like you fun outgoing while being opinionated or be quiet and polite?
Is tipping customary and is it much appreciated like it is in Mexico?
What is a good amount of tip, to a bar tender, to a door man, to a food server, to a hotel room clean up person?
What are the things frowned upon, e. G alcohol in public and seen too close to drug dealers, / These are issues one has to watch for in Tijuana.
How safe is the mongering areas? I read about gang related violence in Sao Paulo.
Is the mongering activity concentrated around a specific area, or strewn all around town?
Are there specific music / dance / strip clubs known to have women who cater to mongers openly like we have in Thailand and Mexico?
Do these clubs, if they exist, have attached Hotel to take the women up, as conveniently customary in Thai and Mexico's Red light zones?
Are there massage parlous like we have in Colombia which are actually preferred by many mongers who go there, specially now a days.
Is cheating a problem, like giving you a wrong change at Hotel counters and Bars like we have in Tijuana.
Are the Hotels trust worthy, meaning if you reserve it online say Expedia, would they honor that?
I am not going to ask about the women, as I believe they are the same everywhere.
In any case these are the things I wanted to know, initially, as I continue the research about Brazil as a destination.
Regards.[/QUOTE]
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Dennis Rodman?
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;3002146]
Then I see this impressive, tall, super athletic trans, yes, she was truly impressive, with ultra high heels and miniskirt and I have no shame to say it because of the feminine touch she had. I'm a visual producer and I love exotic beauty. I immediately thought on a fashion portrait ... i know agents who love those faces and looks.
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Transamerica Prime International Plaza
Does anybody stayed in Transamerica Prime International Plaza near ave Paulista?
How was wifi in the hotel?
Also, I found several airbnb apartments in the hotel. Looks like they sell some rooms to private investors.
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Search on Booking
[QUOTE=Guest19;3003835]Does anybody stayed in Transamerica Prime International Plaza near ave Paulista?
How was wifi in the hotel?
Also, I found several airbnb apartments in the hotel. Looks like they sell some rooms to private investors.[/QUOTE]Go to [URL]Booking.com[/URL] and find that hotel. Then go to the hotel in question and go to the reviews page. There is a WiFi overall rating but you can also Search on WiFi to get specific comments (like was hard to connect to vs weak signal). I've def eliminated some hotels this way.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;3003929]Go to [URL]Booking.com[/URL] and find that hotel. Then go to the hotel in question and go to the reviews page. There is a WiFi overall rating but you can also Search on WiFi to get specific comments (like was hard to connect to vs weak signal). I've def eliminated some hotels this way.[/QUOTE]I am always doing exactly what you suggested. Results:
- The internet was not very strong in guest rooms, so working from the room was difficult.
- Location was very good. WIFI worked fine.
- Great WiFi. - no issues at all.
- The WIFI was quiet poor and we found it hard to work from the room. We tried moving around the hotel for a better signal, but to no avail.
- Wifi was slow at times.
- Internet is very bad. The only bad thing there.
This is why I am asking for the experience from the real people who stayed in the hotel in this forum.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;3003589] At some point I have the amazing idea that we could repeat the double date concept at Seen (BTW if you have never been to Seen the combo of food and view is stunning). So I text Mark and see if he and his girl are down and then ask Nat and she's all in![/QUOTE]Curious about your experience at Seen. Did you stay at the Tivoli? I was reading some reviews of the hotel and some of the guests were complaining that it was filled with prostitutes in the evening, LOL. Like oh no that's terrible, what days and times was it so I know when to not be there!
But I wonder if that's what you saw, if that's what the vibe is. Sounds fun to me!
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I Don't Agree
[QUOTE=James006;3003407]For those wondering about traveling to Sao Paolo or Rio, I will confirm that there is a much higher level in Sao Paolo if it is primarily the ladies that attract you.
4 X4, Montecarlo and Solarium in Rio were a tragedy compared to what I remember from a few years ago. I didn't have time to try Santaurus, but it is probably still the best.
I had my glory days at Help disco and Scandalo in Sao Paolo can't compare to the sexy atmosphere that was there even though Scandalo is definitely the best now. I missed sitting at an outdoor restaurant watching the lovely ladies sit around and start negotiating with horny like-minded people.
I tried Copa Cobana below the Hilton. Here there were lots of hot ladies ready for action before. Now there was nothing to pick up.
Is there no action at the beach anymore?
And aren't there any cool cafes where the ladies operate?
I was going to try Friends in Sao Paolo and it was closed. The security guard told me about a place nearby called Zeus Bar Show. [URL]www.zeusbar.com.br[/URL].[/QUOTE]Been to both Rio and Sao Paulo 4 times in 2 years and it's Rio by a long stretch. SP is too expensive and not enough quality and quantity for me. You can't compare SP's vibe to Rio vibe. From the Prives, Casa's, massage clinics, Termas. Beaches. Rio wins by a mile. I don't know where you went and when you went there, but I had the blast of my life. Casarao is currently the only bright spark in SP.
I went to Miruna, Abbobora, Klin and others and was disappointed by the quality and price. Scandallo price doesn't make sense to me. To each his own. I left Scandallo to got to Casarao.
YMMV.
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Dunno
[QUOTE=KnightCrawller;3003991]Curious about your experience at Seen. Did you stay at the Tivoli? I was reading some reviews of the hotel and some of the guests were complaining that it was filled with prostitutes in the evening, LOL. Like oh no that's terrible, what days and times was it so I know when to not be there!
But I wonder if that's what you saw, if that's what the vibe is. Sounds fun to me![/QUOTE]I think Socrates was saying he sees freelancers there. But both times I went were early — like 7 or 8 and the scene was just couples and groups having dinner. It's laid out as a restaurant so not a lot of ways to approach. I suppose there could be some single ladies at the bar. But since I had the hottest girls in the room w me I wasn't paying attention. Hahaha. I def wouldn't suggest it for finding action but maybe late night you might get lucky. Socrates may weigh in as he recommended it to me. Great place to take a date if you want to impress her.
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I Disagree
[QUOTE=Tribute15;3003992]Been to both Rio and Sao Paulo 4 times in 2 years and it's Rio by a long stretch. SP is too expensive and not enough quality and quantity for me. You can't compare SP's vibe to Rio vibe. From the Prives, Casa's, massage clinics, Termas. Beaches. Rio wins by a mile. I don't know where you went and when you went there, but I had the blast of my life. Casarao is currently the only bright spark in SP.
I went to Miruna, Abbobora, Klin and others and was disappointed by the quality and price. Scandallo price doesn't make sense to me. To each his own. I left Scandallo to got to Casarao.
YMMV.[/QUOTE]At least with respect to this year. Was in Brazil last February and March, and never saw so many fat and uglies in Rio! Very disappointing! Sao Paulo won by a mile! But overall both were disappointing compared to prior trips. Still owe two final reports. I hope by next week!
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[QUOTE=KnightCrawller;3003991]Curious about your experience at Seen. Did you stay at the Tivoli? I was reading some reviews of the hotel and some of the guests were complaining that it was filled with prostitutes in the evening, LOL. Like oh no that's terrible, what days and times was it so I know when to not be there!
But I wonder if that's what you saw, if that's what the vibe is. Sounds fun to me![/QUOTE]During the 5-6 visits I've been to Seen, I was always with a date or group of friend or colleagues so never tried to chat up the obvious working girls that was there.
The ones I noticed that were available were all in the bar area. They were generally elegantly dressed and solo or working in pairs. Most of the ones I saw weren't really my type as they were usually in the late 20's or older and had obvious work done.
I would also presume their asking price wouldn't be cheap, as Seen is in a luxury 5 star hotel with lots of businessmen and rich guests.
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[QUOTE=Tribute15;3003992]Been to both Rio and Sao Paulo 4 times in 2 years and it's Rio by a long stretch. SP is too expensive and not enough quality and quantity for me. You can't compare SP's vibe to Rio vibe. From the Prives, Casa's, massage clinics, Termas. Beaches. Rio wins by a mile. I don't know where you went and when you went there, but I had the blast of my life. Casarao is currently the only bright spark in SP.
I went to Miruna, Abbobora, Klin and others and was disappointed by the quality and price. Scandallo price doesn't make sense to me. To each his own. I left Scandallo to got to Casarao.
YMMV.[/QUOTE]Good report! It's nice to read a different report about Sao Paulo. When I arrive in Rio and travels from the airport I feel alive and bursting from energy when passing by the favelas, morros, tunnels and the beaches. When I arrive in Sao Paulo and travels from the airport to centro I feel sad as I like I arrived in a giant flat and ugly city without energy. Well, that's my opinion.
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Both Work
[QUOTE=Sperto;3004043]Good report! It's nice to read a different report about Sao Paulo. When I arrive in Rio and travels from the airport I feel alive and bursting from energy when passing by the favelas, morros, tunnels and the beaches. When I arrive in Sao Paulo and travels from the airport to centro I feel sad as I like I arrived in a giant flat and ugly city without energy. Well, that's my opinion.[/QUOTE]My last couple visits I've done both Rio and SP and I think I will stick with that. With only an hour flight and $149 you are good to go.
No question Rio is a fun and vibrant city and of course the beach and all. And SP is nothing special just a big city. The big draw of SP is the club scene. The Boate's. Scandallo and Casarao simply don't exist in Rio. Yes there are some girls bars like Dolce Vita and Casablanca. But you are talking 1/5 the girls of casarao and 1/10 the girls of Scandallo.
My advice to others is as follows:
If you enjoy the nightclub scene then SP wins hands down. If that doesn't matter than definitely Rio.
As far as Scandallo goes, if $1000 is a lot of money to you then it's probably not for you. You will find it a "bad value". But if $1000 is neither here nor there for you then its hard to suggest a more fun place on planet earth IMO.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;3004169] And SP is nothing special just a big city. [/QUOTE]It's a diverse city with many different cultures from different countries, more vibrant than rio, IMO. I prefer SP by a mile but you have to live here to experience it.
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[QUOTE=Tribute15;3003992]Been to both Rio and Sao Paulo 4 times in 2 years and it's Rio by a long stretch. SP is too expensive ...
YMMV.[/QUOTE]I think your main limiting factor is price. Rio does have more low price options concentrated in a smaller area.
One day I woke up and realize that I am spending stupid money with the girls from Scandallo. I mean like meeting them every day living here. LOL. Especially when I can have quality in another country that is top or better than most Scandallo girls for my taste for a fraction of the cost. The one came at 7:30 last night asked for my permission to leave at 10 PM and do everything that I asked. Sex is as good or better for my taste and style. LOL. I didn't control her when she wanted to check her cell. While she went thru her WhatsApp, I asked about the girls she was chatting with. Each one sent picture via WhatsApp so I could see what they look like, and age ranged from too young to 20. I choose and picked who I wanted her to bring for the same price and service without negotiation. hahaha. Of course, this requires a lot of time and investment (this one I met no less than 5 times and it was a dud the first time we met but I have patience. ) so it is not turn-key.
I preferred girls that are not tainted by money yet. Usually these don't deal with foreigners. This is also one of the reasons that I started to travel thru Brazil. I am thankful for Sperto's report. He showed me the way.
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Final Hurrah. Duo at Lush
I had set my plans so that I could have the girl buffet in São Paulo at Scandallo and Casarao and then some GF time in Rio and then back to Scandallo for 7 hours on my layover in SP headed back to the states. This ended up being about 80% what happened but I went with the flow in some areas and going with the flow usually pays off.
First in São Paulo I had planned a bit more club time. But when I squeezed Nat in for a lunch date that turned into a three day shack up, this was def a great change in plans. That girl is fire! And for someone as spectacularly hot as she is, she's an absolute great GF in the room — very sweet and attentive. So that was first great go with the flow decision.
The second was when Cebele and I had that falling out for my first few days in Rio and I went on the termas crawl instead. Somehow managing four duos in one night. That was def one of the most debauched nights of my life.
And then picking up Sol on Mother's Day when Manu bagged. And later sending Manu home and ending up with a Boate crawl and dancing w my girl at Dolce Vita before hitting the hotel. Just great flow and adjustments all around.
Perhaps my best game-time decision tho was on the last day. As I said, I was flying into SP from Rio and had a 9 hour layover to work with. The plan from day 1 was to spend it at Scan. But on the plane I started to have a wonderful idea. A wonderful, awful idea! (Grinch anyone?
I was thinking back to the MMFF with Mark and how great those girls were. And somehow I pieced in the notion of Lush love motel that Socrates had told me about and a plan was born! Why not duo those two girls at Lush?
First, a shoutout to Lush motel. OMFG this place is fire! 🔥 They have 3, 6, and 12 hour blocks and you can book same day. But the key is how off the hook it is, especially for the price. I booked their Lush Spa Splash for 12 hours for $130 And boy is it worth it.
The suite is over 700 sq ft. And INSIDE the suite is a jacuzzi, sauna, and 10 x20 pool! Wtf! It is epic! There is this magic cabinet where when you order food and drinks, a bell rings and the shit shows up in the cabinet. No answering the door or having some dude deliver stuff. Just food and drinks at the beckon and it magically appears. Prices weren't bad either. You should def go to Lush, preferably with a duo which makes it even more fun.
[URL]https://lushmotel.com.br[/URL]
And thus the wonderful, awful plan was born — take the two girls from the MMFF and have them all to myself at Lush. I started texting with K mid flight (love that on Latam) and we locked up plans by touchdown to meet around 3 or 4.
I had planned to nap, but by the time I got lunch and money and settled in it was nearly 3 and the girls arrived around 4 — first K and then Cee. I had ordered them each an Uber which is not only classy but also expedient because you know exactly when they will arrive. A huge bonus when working with Brasileiras.
K arrrived about a half hour earlier than Cee and was absolutely beside herself about the suite. You know how these 20 year old gen z girls are. Pictures and videos galore and honestly I am loving every minute of seeing her prance around in her bikini. (Both girls knew there was a pool and brought bikinis for insta tho we have tons of naked vids also just for ourselves.).
Cee arrived about a half hour later and was equally smitten. They were both like kids on Christmas morning all girlish giggling and so taken with the luxe suite. Got to say best $130 ever in that regard.
Now as you might imagine, my mind is in sex and theirs is on swimming. LOL. Fortunately it's not my first rodeo. So as they are getting all excited to go for a swim I say that we will get to that but let's start in the bedroom. Since they are paid girls and not a GF they comply easily.
As before, K is a bit lazy compared to Cee, but K is such a spitfire bubbly girl you can't help but love her. So when the sex is about to start she excuses herself to the bathroom for quite some time. Cee and I get going tho no problem!
Cee gives an amazing BJ and has me hard as a brick. I return the favor and give her some amazing DATY. This girl is def turned on sexually because when my tongue hits her clit for the first time she jumps like a bolt of lightning struck! I give her a roaring good time, taking some tips from Mark and locking my arms around her legs to keep her from backstroking up the bed when it gets too intense. I make her feel every sensation.
Before long we are fucking, first in the Steve and then in Mish. She's got a nice tight pussy and it all feels very real, esp when she orgasms and her pussy clamps and pushes me out. I love it when it's real and not just a girl doing her job and with Cee it's def real.
Eventually K emerges from the bathroom and we get the full duo experience going. Lots of double BJ tho it's clear this is new for them. We start with one on balls and one on shaft. But at some point I teach them the sandwich. I put two pillows on the floor and have them face each other like they are going to kiss and insert my dick in between their poised lips. It took a second for them to get the hang of it. But once they got going, oh my! Nothing better.
The prior night, neither Manu nor Valentina could coax a shot — not for lack of trying. And so I have pent up demand but am still perilously hard to finish after fucking 20 times in ten days. K kinda gives up again an hour or so in but Cee soldiers on. She has some great lube in her purse (didn't need for sex, she was wet after BJ) and she goes for the two hand HJ. This actually feels amazing. I needed a new sensation after all the usual and I start to feel the build!
I move her to just ball work and take matters into my own hand for the finish and it's epic. I normally shoot about 1-2 inches at my age. LOL. Maybe 8" on a good day. Well today was a VERY good day. I hit Cee straight in the chest with a 16" first shot and then again lower with a second 12" shot. Damn that was a fine finish!
OK now it's playtime. We all shower up and head to the pool. There is a blowup round float and a big flamingo! Even tho you am having passionate sex with these young women they are still girls at heart and they have sooooo much fun. Giggling and splashing, they have the time of their lives.
We've brought our drinks with us and are good and lit by this time so the girls are super affectionate. Every couple of minutes one or the other comes to me and plants an amazing DFK on me and wraps her legs around me like a GF would. Sooooo good. And then a few minutes later, the other one does the same thing. My two girls and all mine! (They love it when I say they are my girls).
After we dry off we order more drinks and some dinner. We dance like naked fools and couldn't give one fuck. K esp loves to dance and is a free spirit. No trepidation at all about fully naked pussy out videos. In fact she started that back at the MMFF. The food arrives in the magic cabinet and we enjoy it lounging around fully naked.
I'm sure the girls just want to play but it's my suite and my $$ so I key in that I won't be able to cum but I want to go again. You can tell they are a bit like "really?" But again Cee puts on her game face and gets in her knees.
Fuck I didn't even know if I could get hard again but her excellent BJ has me hard as a brick in no time. She BJs for a good long time and I get the urge to fuck her. I tell her so but she turns to K and says "your turn". K as I said is a bit lazy but jumps on the bed in doggie and I slide in. Her pussy feels amazing and I fuck her for a good long time as she twerks that magic Brasileira bunda.
Eventually we pack it in, eat some more, dance some more, kiss some more and wrap things up. Both are so enthused about the time we spent together and we all promise to repeat. Off we go in our respective Ubers and back to real life. Sigh. But the memories are forever.
P.S. Final Lush bill was $270 including room, extra person charge, and a TON of food and drinks. Can't think of money better spent on recent years. Lush is a high recommend!
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Just curious
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3004220]I had set my plans so that I could have the girl buffet in So Paulo at Scandallo and Casarao and then some GF time in Rio and then back to Scandallo for 7 hours on my layover in SP headed back to the states. This ended up being about 80% what happened but I went with the flow in some areas and going with the flow usually pays off.
First in So Paulo I had planned a bit more club time. But when I squeezed Nat in for a lunch date that turned into a three day shack up, this was def a great change in plans. That girl is fire! And for someone as spectacularly hot as she is, she's an absolute great GF in the room very sweet and attentive. So that was first great go with the flow decision.
The second was when Cebele and I had that falling out for my first few days in Rio and I went on the termas crawl instead. Somehow managing four duos in one night. That was def one of the most debauched nights of my life.
And then picking up Sol on Mother's Day when Manu bagged. And later sending Manu home and ending up with a Boate crawl and dancing w my girl at Dolce Vita before hitting the hotel. Just great flow and adjustments all around.
Perhaps my best game-time decision tho was on the last day. As I said, I was flying into SP from Rio and had a 9 hour layover to work with. The plan from day 1 was to spend it at Scan. But on the plane I started to have a wonderful idea. A wonderful, awful idea! (Grinch anyone?
I was thinking back to the MMFF with Mark and how great those girls were. And somehow I pieced in the notion of Lush love motel that Socrates had told me about and a plan was born! Why not duo those two girls at Lush?
First, a shoutout to Lush motel. OMFG this place is fire! 🔥 They have 3, 6, and 12 hour blocks and you can book same day. But the key is how off the hook it is, especially for the price. I booked their Lush Spa Splash for 12 hours for $130 And boy is it worth it.
The suite is over 700 sq ft. And INSIDE the suite is a jacuzzi, sauna, and 10 x20 pool! Wtf! It is epic! There is this magic cabinet where when you order food and drinks, a bell rings and the shit shows up in the cabinet. No answering the door or having some dude deliver stuff. Just food and drinks at the beckon and it magically appears. Prices weren't bad either. You should def go to Lush, preferably with a duo which makes it even more fun.
[URL]https://lushmotel.com.br[/URL]
P.S. Final Lush bill was $270 including room, extra person charge, and a TON of food and drinks. Can't think of money better spent on recent years. Lush is a high recommend![/QUOTE]Good report, going with the flow. Lush pool with swans and toys is a guarantees fun time. There is a write up of Lush and other places in São Paulo with a similar setup. Lush has option of ordering sexy costumes and crazy sex stuff on the menu to AMP things up to the next level.
Just curious I saw a cute pie casarao morena garotas very recent bikini photos from Lush pool and the distinctive orange red swan.
Kkkkk hot selfie bikini shots everywhere.
Sounds like you had a blast.
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Hahaha Likely K
[QUOTE=Tochka;3004258]Good report, going with the flow. Lush pool with swans and toys is a guarantees fun time. There is a write up of Lush and other places in So Paulo with a similar setup. Lush has option of ordering sexy costumes and crazy sex stuff on the menu to AMP things up to the next level.
Just curious I saw a cute pie casarao morena garotas very recent bikini photos from Lush pool and the distinctive orange red swan.
Kkkkk hot selfie bikini shots everywhere.
Sounds like you had a blast.[/QUOTE]That describes K to a tee. Cutie pie. Love me a Morena. Rocking a green bikini with her perfect be / see cups. Cee had a magenta one but she wasn't burning up the social media as much as K. Yeah bet that's her. You may already know her if you see her social media but she's a rocking good time.
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STD tests
I know in some spots in Colombia (shocker! Chicas must submit negative STD tests to be allowed to work.
Is it the same in SP? I am mainly referring to clinicas. Thanks.
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Anyone going to be in SP Mid-June to early July? Looking to grab a drink and show me around. My first time in SP! Thanks.
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Zeus and 57 less Friends
Zeus bar show. This review is for those who have spent at least six to nine months in So Paulo or Rio.
Last night I visited scandallo. The place was hopping with beautiful women, asking for 1200 brl and up. Always, gems are available for 800 brl. Unfortunately, I was a little bored seeing the same women every month. The hunt was on to find fresh new faces. I came across a few. Got their WhatsApp number to connect later for a lower rate at a local motel. Uber over to Casarao. Same deal. A few more newbies, but many repeats week after week. Bounced to Moema. Gave Bahamas a try. 200 brl entry. The garotas were average and older, asking 1000 brl. Nope, not pulling the trigger on that when I know in a week or two she will send a request for pix to pay for rent or kids' school fees. Don't know about you guys, but I get those needy Pix messages all the time. I sent a WhatsApp meme that says, "Your message was read and successfully ignored. " Kkkk.
Left Bahamas, walked to 57 Friends. There is a new fresh roster. I enjoyed Beth, part morena part japa, 19 year old standing 4 feet 10. No kids. Tiny short firecracker. Goddamn pixie vixen. Better grap her quick when Julia posts her fotos on wassap. Lately 57 friends has started to charge a bit more, or not returning change paying in brl reais cash. There seemed to be more English speaking east coast gringos showing up 57 friends lately. Walked over to Zeus bar, nice, that is my type of place. Yup its a fvcking clip joint, yes gringos will get overcharged. The garotas were average to slightly below. The entry is 200 brl, the hotel Hermes next door is 150 brl for the one-hour room. I met a mildly interesting mature Carioca, she said 28 or 29. Ya know it means early 30+ We hit it off right away. It was 2 am, so all the garotas in the place were pouncing on any mofos walking through the door. At first she said 500 brl (gringo pricing) I respond hell no 300 brl plus I choose your drink to take in the room. No effing lady drinks. She agreed to 300 brl for a one-hour session. Next door. Zeus is a Good price point for guys that can return week after week to find a few gems. If you know the game, speak some porto, and know going in its a clip joint, think and decide with the big head. Its a fine place for 300 brl night tour.
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Zeus
[QUOTE=Tochka;3005024]Zeus bar show. This review is for those who have spent at least six to nine months in So Paulo or Rio.
Last night I visited scandallo. The place was hopping with beautiful women, asking for 1200 brl and up. Always, gems are available for 800 brl. Unfortunately, I was a little bored seeing the same women every month. The hunt was on to find fresh new faces. I came across a few. Got their WhatsApp number to connect later for a lower rate at a local motel. Uber over to Casarao. Same deal. A few more newbies, but many repeats week after week. Bounced to Moema. Gave Bahamas a try. 200 brl entry. The garotas were average and older, asking 1000 brl. Nope, not pulling the trigger on that when I know in a week or two she will send a request for pix to pay for rent or kids' school fees. Don't know about you guys, but I get those needy Pix messages all the time. I sent a WhatsApp meme that says, "Your message was read and successfully ignored. " Kkkk.
Left Bahamas, walked to 57 Friends. There is a new fresh roster. I enjoyed Beth, part morena part japa, 19 year old standing 4 feet 10. No kids. Tiny short firecracker. Goddamn pixie vixen. Better grap her quick when Julia posts her fotos on wassap. Lately 57 friends has started to charge a bit more, or not returning change paying in brl reais cash. There seemed to be more English speaking east coast gringos showing up 57 friends lately. Walked over to Zeus bar, nice, that is my type of place. Yup its a fvcking clip joint, yes gringos will get overcharged..[/QUOTE]A taxi driver tried to convince me to go to Zeus. Looked interesting but glad I passed.
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Hi All,
I will be in São Paulo next week from Monday to Friday. This is my second visit. I was in SP last year in Sept and had a great time. I stayed at Renaissance and visited Bomboa two nights and Scandallo two nights. Bomboa got busier earlier in the night than scandalo. I also visited Taj Mahal which was mediocre. I also did an outcall with Ana Lu from club model which was fantastic. I wrote a long report after my visit but my session timed out and then I never got back to posting the report.
Next week I will be in SP from Monday to Friday and will be staying at Marrio exec appts. Would love to meet you if you are in SP and available. This time I am going to try Palms, lotus, Bomboa and Scandallo (thanks SocratesNY) Any recommendations for Monday night? I hear Mondays suck from the reports but any pointers where to go? Casarao?
Big thanks to this forum for all the info.
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[QUOTE=VascoDagama;3005052]Hi All,
I will be in So Paulo next week from Monday to Friday. This is my second visit. I was in SP last year in Sept and had a great time. I stayed at Renaissance and visited Bomboa two nights and Scandallo two nights. Bomboa got busier earlier in the night than scandalo. I also visited Taj Mahal which was mediocre. I also did an outcall with Ana Lu from club model which was fantastic. I wrote a long report after my visit but my session timed out and then I never got back to posting the report.
Next week I will be in SP from Monday to Friday and will be staying at Marrio exec appts. Would love to meet you if you are in SP and available. This time I am going to try Palms, lotus, Bomboa and Scandallo (thanks SocratesNY) Any recommendations for Monday night? I hear Mondays suck from the reports but any pointers where to go? Casarao?
Big thanks to this forum for all the info.[/QUOTE]The boate action on Saturday, Sunday (Casarao), and Monday nights is generally slower than other nights which is why I nearly always spend these nights with my favorite repeat girls at my hotel. That said, I have been to Scandallo and Bomboa plenty of Monday & Saturday nights and always found what I was looking for, more or less, despite there being far fewer girls available than on other nights. KKK.
The best Monday alternative is a) a date with your favorite repeat girls or b) go to Scandallo of Bomboa anyway, or c) do a Clinica hop. IMHO Palms is the best high end clinica (expensive) and Abboboro is the best regular clinica. There is plenty of action at the clinicas on Mondays.
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Scan and Cas Will be Fine
[QUOTE=VascoDagama;3005052]Hi All,
I will be in So Paulo next week from Monday to Friday. This is my second visit. I was in SP last year in Sept and had a great time. I stayed at Renaissance and visited Bomboa two nights and Scandallo two nights. Bomboa got busier earlier in the night than scandalo. I also visited Taj Mahal which was mediocre. I also did an outcall with Ana Lu from club model which was fantastic. I wrote a long report after my visit but my session timed out and then I never got back to posting the report.
Next week I will be in SP from Monday to Friday and will be staying at Marrio exec appts. Would love to meet you if you are in SP and available. This time I am going to try Palms, lotus, Bomboa and Scandallo (thanks SocratesNY) Any recommendations for Monday night? I hear Mondays suck from the reports but any pointers where to go? Casarao?
Big thanks to this forum for all the info.[/QUOTE]You won't have any probs. As Axel says, fewer girls, but no problem finding something.
Casarao is a late night club. But to me, 2 AM Sunday night (Monday morning) was indistinguishable from any other day. Packed. Monday might be lighter because other clubs are open but surely plenty of hot talent.
I met Socrates for a few drinks on a Monday daytime at Scan and yeah prob only 30 girls. But plenty of fine options. No issue.
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Club Model
"I also did an outcall with Ana Lu from club model which was fantastic. ".
A lot of guys say to avoid the outcall in SP for various reasons. Pictures don't match the girl, she wants money sent upfront, etc. Club Model advertises on the gp forum all the time, front and center. How much did your girl charge you and did she look like her pictures?
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Um, kegels much?
Is it just me or does it seem like women here practice kegels professionally. I'm moderate but nothing extraordinary and very much struggled to fit into most women. Most of my past girlfriends have been petite 100 lbs but I've never experienced anything like this. I don't mean this in a good way. It felt like being gripped tightly by a fist.
Apart from that, it also seemed like every girl I met attended head game school where the education was excellent.
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Very true
[QUOTE=Wanderer1000;3005274]
Pictures don't match the girl
[/QUOTE]Tried this once, even had her send additional images to confirm, wasn't ready when I arrived, went to the cafe across the street for espresso. Received continuous texts over an hour apologizing but assumed it was a lost cause. Received a text to come up as I finished my second coffee. Went up to the door and was greeted by a different monster. What a waste of time.
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Ok K more.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3004260]That describes K to a tee. Cutie pie. Love me a Morena. Rocking a green bikini with her perfect be / see cups. Cee had a magenta one but she wasn't burning up the social media as much as K. Yeah bet that's her. You may already know her if you see her social media but she's a rocking good time.[/QUOTE]K has a real life sister that is slightly younger, more cute, slightly lighter, bubbly and same features around the eyes. Definitely hitting up her sister. Kkkk.
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Club Model
[QUOTE=Wanderer1000;3005274]"I also did an outcall with Ana Lu from club model which was fantastic. ".
A lot of guys say to avoid the outcall in SP for various reasons. Pictures don't match the girl, she wants money sent upfront, etc. Club Model advertises on the gp forum all the time, front and center. How much did your girl charge you and did she look like her pictures?[/QUOTE]I read her positive reviews on GP before contacting and was not disappointed with her attitude and service. Her body is exactly like her pics but her ad that time hid / blurred the face. She responded promptly to me in a friendly yet professional way detailing her service and cost 1 k / HR to come to my hotel or 600 for me to visit her. She asked for 100 pix / advance to come to my hotel and sent me instructions on how to send it knowing I am not local. I wanted to try this so I went with it. She was 30 minutes late due to traffic and sent me her Watsapp location for me to track. I was in the lobby and I see in WhatsApp that she's arrived, a a gorgeous girl dressed in a mini dress walks in gives me a glance and walks towards the elevator. I am thinking damn I am lucky and follow her only to find out that she's not the one. LOL because she just went past the elevator and into the restaurant while on the phone with someone. A few minutes later I see her and I was surprised (negatively) to see her face. Not ugly but not that young and beautiful as you would imagine. Anyways I took her up and was more than happy with her attitude and service. She stayed for 2 hrs, did all the acronyms and 2 great rounds. Again her body is out of the world. Language was an issue but I use translation earbuds (time kettle) which worked.
Verdict. Cost 1 k to come to my hotel and not a clock watcher at all.
Face 6/7 does not look that young.
Body 9/10.
Service 10/10.
Based on my experience and many reports here and on GP I agree it's not worth booking through these sites. Bait and switch possibility and price is high while there a lots of day and night time venues to pick from the selection. My session with Ana Lu was great even with a slight disappointment in appearance in the beginning.
Steve and Axel thanks for the responses.
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[QUOTE=Hanzonamura;3005418]...... It felt like being gripped tightly by a fist.
Apart from that, it also seemed like every girl I met attended head game school where the education was excellent.[/QUOTE]Ha ha ha, welcome to Brazil.
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300 brl reais, Casarao, Zeus, Espaço Vergueiro
Saturday night, midnight I went to Zeus to try my luck. Interviewed four garotas. None agreed to my price point of 300 brl reais an hour. There was a fine-ass 22-year-old with huge fvcking boobs. After negotiations, she finally decided to 350 brl plus CIM. But I lost interest in fake biggies and bounced. Went to Espaço Vergueiro, a dive boate bar in Liberdade. Sometimes tangara garotas go there after tangara closes. It is definitely more of a local place for guys spending time with garotas at lower prices. I could not stay long. There was an angry fight at the door entrance. Two mofo drunk guys arguing. They finally kicked one guy out. Of course, he was hanging out front looking to settle the score. My Uber showed up. I left the scene. Arrived at 2 am Casarao. The strip show was in full effect on stage. I pushed past the throngs of dudes watching the strip show. My routine is to hit the downstairs bar first, then walk up the stairs to the back bar, and eventually circulate to the stage and return to downstairs bar using the other stairs. What's your casarao route? Kkk.
On the way down and up to the back bar eyed two very sexy morena. Damn, that Garota had a naturally big tight ass. She was showing it off in a tight, fitting one-piece body suit. I could Bounce fvcking quarters off that Brasilia bunda. She reached out to massage my shoulders as I walked past. I think in Casarano random garotas reach out and touch, a little more than in scandallos or other spots. I you-turned. We chatted. She and her girlfriend was interested I and agreed to the offer of a duplo session, two garota for 300 bro reais each (three hundred reais) each, doing everything I wanted for an hour-long session. Made them both repeat back the offer of 300 brl and all the kinky stuff we are going to do for an hour. And no extra pix or tips. Bingo they both agreed. Off we went next door hotel room. There was no line, no one waiting for rooms, Saturday night at 3 am. Shit, that's great for me. Paid for the larger room with a stripper pole. We had fun. Two fine-ass garotas for 300 reais each was a good deal. . We connected on Instagram. To have a repeat hookup session in the future.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;3005171]You won't have any probs. As Axel says, fewer girls, but no problem finding something.
Casarao is a late night club. But to me, 2 AM Sunday night (Monday morning) was indistinguishable from any other day. Packed. Monday might be lighter because other clubs are open but surely plenty of hot talent.
I met Socrates for a few drinks on a Monday daytime at Scan and yeah prob only 30 girls. But plenty of fine options. No issue.[/QUOTE]I usually get to Casarao early. Between 1030 pm to 11 pm.
Sit and have a drink, watch them all come in.
I usually find an early girl I like, relax with her a bit, then have the rest of the night to find number 2.
As you know, the place can get very crowded with dudes after 1 am.
I'm usually out by 2 am to 3 am the latest.
Plus I hate the long line for a room which usually forms at about 1 am ish.
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Transamerica Prime hotel
I am staying in Transamerica Prime hotel next to the Ave Paulista. [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/YrgRRwkm9ZVUPqy96[/URL].
Hotel itself is not a 4-start, but solid 3+. Very quiet, no any construction around.
Breakfast is good, with some guy making custom omelets and pancakes.
Not sure about "guests friendly", but looks like it should be OK, especially if 2 guests are registered.
Location is very nice, just 17 minutes drive to Scandallo, and 10 minutes to Casarao.
There are a lots of restaurants, shops, and supermarkets around.
There is a currency exchange next block, and self-service laundry in 10 minutes walk.
Situation with wifi a little bit strange. I think it is the same for almost all 3-4 stars hotels in SP.
When I measure speed by Ookla website to some local SP servers, it gives me 60/80 MB.
But, if I change destination server to Spectrum NY, it drops to 2-3 MB download and 5 upload.
When I connect it trough my travel router with VPN to Brazil, it gives me 5-6 MB to NYC destination.
I think this is why half people leave a review, that wifi is good, and another half, that it is not possible to work remotely.
Seems, there is a weak link between connection from wifi provider and other countries.
Some rooms can be rented on Airbnb and looking into available wifi networks, seems many of them have private connection.
It is better, and give me 6 MB download and 15 upload to NY servers.
Just returned from Scandallo. Everything was fine. For some reason, half of males in the club where Chinese.
On Saturday, it was 70 percent.
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I just arrived, staying in Itaim Bibi at the Staybridge suites.
Anyone going to Scandallo, or any other lounges over the weekend?
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Buenos Aires and Sao Paulo 2025
Hello folks, just arrived from a two week trip to SP and BsAs.
Very interesting information available. Will post it meanwhile the forum is online.
Both screens are BsAs.
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Br? Or USD
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3004169]As far as Scandallo goes, if $1000 is a lot of money to you then it's probably not for you. You will find it a "bad value". But if $1000 is neither here nor there for you then its hard to suggest a more fun place on planet earth IMO.[/QUOTE]This is BR? Or USD 1000?
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Just a Reference Point
[QUOTE=BenjiGold1999;3006255]This is BR? Or USD 1000?[/QUOTE]I was referring to $1000 USD. Not in the sense that you must spend that much in Scandallo but just in terms of your financial situation and general mindset towards money as a result.
You can definitely go to Scandallo, have a few beers, try to keep your tab low and take one girl and get out for $300 USD. And you will probably conclude it was interesting but over priced. This is because $300 is a lot of money to some people.
But if $1000 USD is not a lot of money to you, you can go and get $120 bottle of gin and a table and take two or three girls to the room over a period of several hours. Maybe smoke a $50 cigar. And close out the night at $800.
For the second guy, he will love Scandallo because he wasn't thinking about saving money and the price per fuck. He was just enjoying being king of the world.
So it was just a reference to say how you feel about Scandallo totally depends on your monetary position. If $1000 USD is a lot of money then you will probably conclude it’s not worth it. And if u have plenty of cash then its a blast. It's all about perspective.
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Newbie in SP
Just a little information after my first day in SP that may be helpful to other newbies.
At the airport (GRU), if you want a secure taxi and don't have an Uber app or a prearranged pickup from the hotel, use the secure taxi stand on the right as you exit the departure door. You walk about 50 yards to an outside kiosk with a few friendly ladies there. You pay a lady at the kiosk if you are paying by credit card, or pay cash directly to the driver. They print out a receipt for you, and a paper to give the driver. The address is on there with the exact price. I don't know if I'd save much by calling an Uber or taxi through the Uber app, but I like to feel as secure as possible when I'm traveling to and from an airport with all my stuff with me. It was about R34 to Vila Mariana near the SE end of Paulista Avenue.
I went to two different casa de cambios on Paulista Avenue today, and they were both offering to buy my $100 bills for 5. 25. The official exchange today was 5. 7. I declined and decided to go to a Bradesco bank (recommended on here as one of the best banks for ATM) to use my Charles Schwab Debit card. Couldn't believe it. They said R4. 94 per dollar exchange rate. In most countries I've traveled to, the ATM rate is the best you can find and very near the official exchange rate.
I went to have lunch at a restaurant my friend recommended in Republica. The waiter was a great guy who spoke English. Toward the end of my meal I mentioned the exchange rate problems I was having, and he told me about a place around the corner that gave him R5. 6 for his dollars the other day. I went to the place he told me, and I never would have found it on my own. It's in a little mall area that's very quiet. It is a small travel agency office that doesn't look like they do much travel business. I walked in and nobody was there. A guy in a back room made some noise since he probably saw me come in on a camera. I walked back and there's this friendly looking fat guy behind a security window. I asked if he could change dollars to Reals. He put 5. 6 in his calculator. I gave him ten $100 bills, and he gave me R5,600. His card says Grupo Moema Interpax, Praca the Republica, 177, Loja 13, Republica, SP.
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[QUOTE=Wanderer1000;3006492]Just a little information after my first day in SP that may be helpful to other newbies.
I went to two different casa de cambios on Paulista Avenue today, and they were both offering to buy my $100 bills for 5. 25. The official exchange today was 5. 7. [/QUOTE]Yesterday, I was in RRCambio on Ave Paulista and exchange rate was 5. 5.
They are located on the 7th floor of the building. There is a door without any signs, just a small rug with "RR" sign.
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You don't take the rate the ATM offers, you decline that and just withdraw the money. Schwab gives you the rate on your statement which is usually the official exchange rate. Letting the ATM do the conversion is ALWAYS a rip-off.
[QUOTE=Wanderer1000;3006492]Just a little information after my first day in SP that may be helpful to other newbies.
At the airport (GRU), if you want a secure taxi and don't have an Uber app or a prearranged pickup from the hotel, use the secure taxi stand on the right as you exit the departure door. You walk about 50 yards to an outside kiosk with a few friendly ladies there. You pay a lady at the kiosk if you are paying by credit card, or pay cash directly to the driver. They print out a receipt for you, and a paper to give the driver. The address is on there with the exact price. I don't know if I'd save much by calling an Uber or taxi through the Uber app, but I like to feel as secure as possible when I'm traveling to and from an airport with all my stuff with me. It was about R34 to Vila Mariana near the SE end of Paulista Avenue.
I went to two different casa de cambios on Paulista Avenue today, and they were both offering to buy my $100 bills for 5. 25. The official exchange today was 5. 7. I declined and decided to go to a Bradesco bank (recommended on here as one of the best banks for ATM) to use my Charles Schwab Debit card. Couldn't believe it. They said R4. 94 per dollar exchange rate. In most countries I've traveled to, the ATM rate is the best you can find and very near the official exchange rate.
I went to have lunch at a restaurant my friend recommended in Republica. The waiter was a great guy who spoke English. Toward the end of my meal I mentioned the exchange rate problems I was having, and he told me about a place around the corner that gave him R5. 6 for his dollars the other day. I went to the place he told me, and I never would have found it on my own. It's in a little mall area that's very quiet. It is a small travel agency office that doesn't look like they do much travel business. I walked in and nobody was there. A guy in a back room made some noise since he probably saw me come in on a camera. I walked back and there's this friendly looking fat guy behind a security window. I asked if he could change dollars to Reals. He put 5. 6 in his calculator. I gave him ten $100 bills, and he gave me R5,600. His card says Grupo Moema Interpax, Praca the Republica, 177, Loja 13, Republica, SP.[/QUOTE]
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Rookie ATM Mistake
[QUOTE=Wanderer1000;3006492]Just a little information after my first day in SP that may be helpful to other newbies.
At the airport (GRU), if you want a secure taxi and don't have an Uber app or a prearranged pickup from the hotel, use the secure taxi stand on the right as you exit the departure door. You walk about 50 yards to an outside kiosk with a few friendly ladies there. You pay a lady at the kiosk if you are paying by credit card, or pay cash directly to the driver. They print out a receipt for you, and a paper to give the driver. The address is on there with the exact price. I don't know if I'd save much by calling an Uber or taxi through the Uber app, but I like to feel as secure as possible when I'm traveling to and from an airport with all my stuff with me. It was about R34 to Vila Mariana near the SE end of Paulista Avenue.
I went to two different casa de cambios on Paulista Avenue today, and they were both offering to buy my $100 bills for 5. 25. The official exchange today was 5. 7. I declined and decided to go to a Bradesco bank (recommended on here as one of the best banks for ATM) to use my Charles Schwab Debit card. Couldn't believe it. They said R4. 94 per dollar exchange rate. In most countries I've traveled to, the ATM rate is the best you can find and very near the official exchange rate.
I went to have lunch at a restaurant my friend recommended in Republica. The waiter was a great guy who spoke English. Toward the end of my meal I mentioned the exchange rate problems I was having, and he told me about a place around the corner that gave him R5. 6 for his dollars the other day. I went to the place he told me, and I never would have found it on my own. It's in a little mall area that's very quiet. It is a small travel agency office that doesn't look like they do much travel business. I walked in and nobody was there. A guy in a back room made some noise since he probably saw me come in on a camera. I walked back and there's this friendly looking fat guy behind a security window. I asked if he could change dollars to Reals. He put 5. 6 in his calculator. I gave him ten $100 bills, and he gave me R5,600. His card says Grupo Moema Interpax, Praca the Republica, 177, Loja 13, Republica, SP.[/QUOTE]Glad you found a good exchange place. But rate at ATM is even better. You just have to choose the right option! The option for "conversion" is horrible and highway robbery. They try to make you think it's the only option. On the left there will be a button that says "decline conversion" or even "cancel conversion" and that makes you think you shouldn't choose that. But you should!! Always choose cancel / decline conversion. You will still get Reis but the conversionnisbdone by your home bank at spot rate. I was getting 5. 7 just a few weeks back.
I suppose its all good you found a good cambio but the "cancel conversion" play works worldwide at all ATMs.
P.S. Card skimming is a real thing in Brasil. I used an off brand machine at the airport (not advised!) and sure enough I had two charges at a Miami Walmart the following week! Stick to well known machines like Banco 24 hrs or preferably Bradesco.
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Western union
5. 7, 5. 8
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3006381]I was referring to $1000 USD. Not in the sense that you must spend that much in Scandallo but just in terms of your financial situation and general mindset towards money as a result.
You can definitely go to Scandallo, have a few beers, try to keep your tab low and take one girl and get out for $300 USD. And you will probably conclude it was interesting but over priced. This is because $300 is a lot of money to some people.
But if $1000 USD is not a lot of money to you, you can go and get $120 bottle of gin and a table and take two or three girls to the room over a period of several hours. Maybe smoke a $50 cigar. And close out the night at $800.
For the second guy, he will love Scandallo because he wasn't thinking about saving money and the price per fuck. He was just enjoying being king of the world.
So it was just a reference to say how you feel about Scandallo totally depends on your monetary position. If $1000 USD is a lot of money then you will probably conclude its not worth it. And if u have plenty of cash then its a blast. It's all about perspective.[/QUOTE].
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ATMs at GRU
The only safe ATM at GRU is the one in the baggage claim prior to exiting Customs. Never use an ATM at GRU that is outside security, I. E. , land side. Assume that all the land side ATMs at GRU have skimmers. Before I learned my lesson, I had a couple of cards shut down because of fraud. I didn't lose any money, but worse, I could have lost my access to cash while in the promised land. Luckily, both times the fraud charges happened just as I was leaving Brazil.
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Claude Monet in MASP
BTW, there is nice Claude Monet exhibition in MASP museum on Ave Paulista.
On the second floor, there are several interesting impressionists paintings and.
Hieronymus Bosch painting in the back.
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[QUOTE=CatBert55;3006558]The only safe ATM at GRU is the one in the baggage claim prior to exiting Customs. .[/QUOTE]The Bradesco ATMs between T2 and T3 are fine. I have used it for many years.
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[QUOTE=Guest19;3006924]BTW, there is nice Claude Monet exhibition in MASP museum on Ave Paulista.
On the second floor, there are several interesting impressionists paintings and.
Hieronymus Bosch painting in the back.[/QUOTE]Thanks. São Paulo has a lot to offer beyond the most beautiful women in the World.
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Sunday Options
Planning for my first visit to Sao Paulo.
I will be staying at hilton sao paulo morumbi. Reading this thread. It looks like the clubs are closed on Sunday except Casarao.
Any other options with nice young talent for Sunday afternoon / evening near Morumbi?
Thank you brothers!
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I also went to Casarao on a Sunday.
Several weeks ago, I must say it was freaking awesome! Area around is sketchy so beware of that.
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[QUOTE=Combo;3007366]Thanks. So Paulo has a lot to offer beyond the most beautiful women in the World.[/QUOTE]The most beautiful women in the world where P4P is readily available. There are other countries with more beautiful women, Italy and Sweden are examples, but their P4P sucks.
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[QUOTE=Guest19;3006924]BTW, there is nice Claude Monet exhibition in MASP museum on Ave Paulista.
On the second floor, there are several interesting impressionists paintings and.
Hieronymus Bosch painting in the back.[/QUOTE]Thank you fellow man of culture.
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Visiting next week. A couple questions
Hi everyone, Visiting SP next week for the first time next week.
Two random questions.
1. Ice at bars. Avoid? Like my whiskey on the rocks although want to avoid stomach issues. Any other tips on food to avoid?
2. Is it weird to stay overnight at those "Love Motels" I'll be staying at a couple of the nice Marriott's but might want to try one of those spots one night.
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Sunday afternoon options
[QUOTE=LoveStallion;3007759]Planning for my first visit to Sao Paulo.
I will be staying at hilton sao paulo morumbi. Reading this thread. It looks like the clubs are closed on Sunday except Casarao.
Any other options with nice young talent for Sunday afternoon / evening near Morumbi?
Thank you brothers![/QUOTE]On Sunday afternoons my go-to places are in Moema Tangara, Prime, Miruna, Indy, Enjoy. It is best to check the wassap status on Sunday mornings around 11 am or before noon to see which garotas are on duty. Tangara has a nice bar downstairs with food, barbecue, lunch to hang out, talk with the friendly garotas, or watch on the big tv screen Corinthians vs Palmeiras and make a comment on either team to get an instant brasilian reaction kkkk go botafogo!! Haha.
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Those are solid Sunday options. I would add Yankin to the list since it's not so far from Tangara.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3008177]On Sunday afternoons my go-to places are in Moema Tangara, Prime, Miruna, Indy, Enjoy. It is best to check the wassap status on Sunday mornings around 11 am or before noon to see which garotas are on duty. Tangara has a nice bar downstairs with food, barbecue, lunch to hang out, talk with the friendly garotas, or watch on the big tv screen Corinthians vs Palmeiras and make a comment on either team to get an instant brasilian reaction kkkk go botafogo!! Haha.[/QUOTE]
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Love motels
[QUOTE=DSB4891;3008165]Hi everyone, Visiting SP next week for the first time next week.
Two random questions.
1. Ice at bars. Avoid? Like my whiskey on the rocks although want to avoid stomach issues. Any other tips on food to avoid?
2. Is it weird to stay overnight at those "Love Motels" I'll be staying at a couple of the nice Marriott's but might want to try one of those spots one night.[/QUOTE]This is my list of love motels. All night is no problem it is called "Periodo" stay from time you arrive at night until noon. Great to have café de manhã with two or three garotas in the morning. Get a room with pool, sauna, presidential suite, good food, whiskey, sex toys, sexy lingerie can be ordered from the menu. Most places charge extra for each additional garota. Mini bar is convenient but keep track cause the garotas like to use it without asking. Order ifood for off menu items, the motoboy can bring good 520 marola to the room, bluetooth speakers for music, or bluetooth speakers available via room service, extra towels, bathrobes all available.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2992023&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2992023.
If garota needs to leave early, by uber, the front desk receptionist calls you to verify everything is ok before she can leave or exit the love motel.
You pay up front for room, and any extra garotas. Pay again before you can exit anything consumed in minibar & menu items, checkout can be damn slow. They send someone manually verify items consumed. Including that chocolate bars the garotas was quietly eating in the banheiro. Kkkk.
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Love motels
[QUOTE=DSB4891;3008165]Hi everyone, Visiting SP next week for the first time next week.
Two random questions.
1. Ice at bars. Avoid? Like my whiskey on the rocks although want to avoid stomach issues. Any other tips on food to avoid?
2. Is it weird to stay overnight at those "Love Motels" I'll be staying at a couple of the nice Marriott's but might want to try one of those spots one night.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DSB4891;3008165]Hi everyone, Visiting SP next week for the first time next week.
Two random questions.
1. Ice at bars. Avoid? Like my whiskey on the rocks although want to avoid stomach issues. Any other tips on food to avoid?
2. Is it weird to stay overnight at those "Love Motels" I'll be staying at a couple of the nice Marriott's but might want to try one of those spots one night.[/QUOTE]This is my list of love motels. All night is no problem it is called "Periodo" stay from time you arrive at night until noon. Great to have café de manhã with two or three garotas in the morning. Get a room with pool, sauna, presidential suite, good food, whiskey, sex toys, sexy lingerie can be ordered from the menu. Most places charge extra for each additional garota. Mini bar is convenient but keep track cause the garotas like to use it without asking. Order ifood for off menu items, the motoboy can bring good 520 marola to the room, bluetooth speakers for music, or bluetooth speakers available via room service, extra towels, bathrobes all available.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2992023&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2992023.
If garota needs to leave early, by uber, the front desk receptionist calls you to verify everything is ok before she can leave or exit the love motel.
You pay up front for room, and any extra garotas. Pay again before you can exit anything consumed in minibar & menu items, checkout can be damn slow. They send someone manually verify items consumed. Including that chocolate bars the garotas was quietly eating in the banheiro. Kkkk.
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[QUOTE=DSB4891;3008165]Hi everyone, Visiting SP next week for the first time next week.
Two random questions.
1. Ice at bars. Avoid? Like my whiskey on the rocks although want to avoid stomach issues. Any other tips on food to avoid?
2. Is it weird to stay overnight at those "Love Motels" I'll be staying at a couple of the nice Marriott's but might want to try one of those spots one night.[/QUOTE]Ice is perfectly fine at the bars and restaurants. Never had a stomach issue in Brazil. I eat my breakfast at the hotel, lunch and dinners are at restaurants. Brazil doesn't really have a street food scene like Asia so nothing to worry about. On Sundays on Av. Paulista, there are some food trucks and I have eaten from them and it is fine.
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Brazil is Fine
[QUOTE=Anaggie;3008414]Ice is perfectly fine at the bars and restaurants. Never had a stomach issue in Brazil. I eat my breakfast at the hotel, lunch and dinners are at restaurants. Brazil doesn't really have a street food scene like Asia so nothing to worry about. On Sundays on Av. Paulista, there are some food trucks and I have eaten from them and it is fine.[/QUOTE]+1.
Of course who knows in the outlying areas but So Paulo and Rio you are good to go. Never had any issues, including drinking out of the tap a few swallows. In both Mexico and India I've been bit. Even when super careful. But Brazil no issue.
As far as Love Motels seems well covered below. I will simply add that Lush was AMAZING. Got the room with sauna and pool IN THE ROOM for 12 hours and it was epic. They even have a magic cabinet where u order food and drink and a bell rings and there it is in the cabinet! It was really top notch.
Bear in mind nearly impossible to reserve ahead if u are a gringo. U need a CPF and Brazilian phone number. But I just Ubered over and walked up and checked in no problem.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;3008563] As far as Love Motels seems well covered below. I will simply add that Lush was AMAZING. Got the room with sauna and pool IN THE ROOM for 12 hours and it was epic. They even have a magic cabinet where u order food and drink and a bell rings and there it is in the cabinet! It was really top notch.
Bear in mind nearly impossible to reserve ahead if u are a gringo. U need a CPF and Brazilian phone number. But I just Ubered over and walked up and checked in no problem. [/QUOTE]Coincidentally, my favorite SP girl spoke well of a certain Love Motel too, the last time I was in Sao Paulo with her. She said the rooms were really nice and we could have a lot of fun there, so I guess we will have to try it out sometime. KKK. And no problem making a reservation using her CPF card and cell phone. We do the same CPF thing when we want to order some Flower delivered.
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Asking thoughts on other destinations
I need to visit Brazil soon. On the way from the US east to Sao Paulo and on the way back, I want to visit a few cities in central / southern America.
I had Medellin and Bogota in mind but I want to change the plan due to the current status in Colombia.
Brazil is the only central / southern American country that I have been. I am familiar with the Brazilian mongering system and I like it.
I know that Brazil is one of the best mongering spots considering the system and girls' attitudes. *.
So my expectations are a bit lower for other destinations,*but still want to try other countries with different atmosphere.
If I want to spend in a few cities (2 to 3 nights at each city) before and after my visit to Brazil, where can be good options?
San Jose, Costa Rica?*Lima, Peru?*Santo Domingo, Dominican Rep?
Thanks,
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For SP, the best place to stay is near casarao maybe rua augusta Airbnb or sex motel, see [URL]guiadomodels.com.br[/URL].
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[QUOTE=Sp1000;3008638]I need to visit Brazil soon. On the way from the US east to Sao Paulo and on the way back, I want to visit a few cities in central / southern America.
I had Medellin and Bogota in mind but I want to change the plan due to the current status in Colombia.
Brazil is the only central / southern American country that I have been. I am familiar with the Brazilian mongering system and I like it.
I know that Brazil is one of the best mongering spots considering the system and girls' attitudes. *.
So my expectations are a bit lower for other destinations,*but still want to try other countries with different atmosphere.
If I want to spend in a few cities (2 to 3 nights at each city) before and after my visit to Brazil, where can be good options?
San Jose, Costa Rica?*Lima, Peru?*Santo Domingo, Dominican Rep?
Thanks,[/QUOTE]I have been to San Jose, CR and Sosua, DR multiple times before. I have only been to Rio once, but planning a trip to SP soon. I have to say the scene is better is Brazil, but I did have fun staying at the Sportsman's lodge in San Jose. I liked staying in the courtyard rooms, right by the bar. I could easily get a chica in my room and not even have to put on pants. But Sousa, DR is cheaper and more in line with the costs of Brazil. But it is fun to go explore all of them and figure out what is fun for you as everyone is different.
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The best punting destination in the Americas by far, IMHO, is Brazil (SP, RJ), then followed somewhat distantly by Bogota, Medellin, Cartagena, and finally San Jose. Now don't get me wrong, you can have a fun time in any of these towns, but SP & RJ are better at provided both the high end and the not so high end experience. KKK.
As an alternative to the countries mentioned: you might also want to check out some other cities and towns in Brazil or even hop down to BA and see what is going on down there if Colombia turns you off.
[QUOTE=Sp1000;3008638]I need to visit Brazil soon. On the way from the US east to Sao Paulo and on the way back, I want to visit a few cities in central / southern America.
I had Medellin and Bogota in mind but I want to change the plan due to the current status in Colombia.
Brazil is the only central / southern American country that I have been. I am familiar with the Brazilian mongering system and I like it.
I know that Brazil is one of the best mongering spots considering the system and girls' attitudes. *.
So my expectations are a bit lower for other destinations,*but still want to try other countries with different atmosphere.[/QUOTE]
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Thanks for your thoughts.
To Axel Heyst,
BA means Buenos Aires? Do you have any suggestion on where to visit?
The Argentina forum seems to be outdated and organized in a different way from here.
[QUOTE=WillieDave;3008683]I have been to San Jose, CR and Sosua, DR multiple times before. I have only been to Rio once, but planning a trip to SP soon. I have to say the scene is better is Brazil, but I did have fun staying at the Sportsman's lodge in San Jose. I liked staying in the courtyard rooms, right by the bar. I could easily get a chica in my room and not even have to put on pants. But Sousa, DR is cheaper and more in line with the costs of Brazil. But it is fun to go explore all of them and figure out what is fun for you as everyone is different.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3008760]The best punting destination in the Americas by far, IMHO, is Brazil (SP, RJ), then followed somewhat distantly by Bogota, Medellin, Cartagena, and finally San Jose. Now don't get me wrong, you can have a fun time in any of these towns, but SP & RJ are better at provided both the high end and the not so high end experience. KKK.
As an alternative to the countries mentioned: you might also want to check out some other cities and towns in Brazil or even hop down to BA and see what is going on down there if Colombia turns you off.[/QUOTE]
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Where to stay for a monthly rental?
So just paid for visa application and I am booking flight and room once approved. I plan on staying two months in Brazil, One month in Sao Paulo and one month in Rio. What is the best option for a monthly rental in each city? I am guessing Airbnb? Looking for a decent place where price matches quality meaning not a budget motel but also not a 5 star hotel. I am thinking Sao Paulo first and finish in Rio. Any suggestions? Areas to stay?
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Prime plus Miruna equals 57
Prime plus Miruna equals 57 friends.
Damn, that was fun! Best time ever. I went to 57 Friends to see one or two new gals. The session was okay nothing special. It was cold as fvck in the bar. I asked Julia to turn up the heat. I walked into the back room with the pool table, music, and other. All of a sudden I hear five meninas scream my name. WTF is going on. Three garotas from Miruna and two garotas from Prime were having an after-work party.
I joined in the fun. Hugs kisses, sexy dancing on the strip pole. It was a blast. I never thought about it before but of course, garotas from different clinics know each other. Sheetz, miruna, and prime gals in the same spot as 57 friends garotas was damn fun as hell.
Drinking, dancing, touching everywhere, lesbo kissing, we controlled the music so played my Spotify playlist for the entire bar. We ate some pastels, finger food, and more dirty dancing. Each of the five garota whispered in my ear they wanted me to bang them right now. In the club. Don't know how they could still be horny as hell. These garotas were using the same names as in the Miruna and Prime presentation lineup. Their real names were different of course. Four out of five kept stroking and feeling me up to get aroused. It damn worked. Had to have them now. Since 57 Friends is a freelance joint, I took two of them upstairs to the room. The larger rooms are #1 and 2, they have a nice couch across from the bed. I selected one from Prime, and one from Miruna to mix and match. They were drinking, smoking Marola, lesbi kissing and doing everything I wanted for an hour. It was convenient to use the rooms in 57 to bang out visiting clinicas garotas. K.
A memorable night when the garotas choose to party with you because they like having fun too. Forista discount for a one hour session is 300 reais before 8 pm, 400 or 450 reais after 8 pm. They read the gpguia reviews to verify foristas.
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Advice
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3008864]So just paid for the visa application and I am booking the flight and room once approved. I plan on staying two months in Brazil, One month in Sao Paulo, and one month in Rio. What is the best option for a monthly rental in each city? I am guessing Airbnb? Looking for a decent place where price matches quality meaning not a budget motel but also not a 5-star hotel. I am thinking of Sao Paulo first and finishing in Rio. Any suggestions? Areas to stay?[/QUOTE]In São Paulo book Airbnb for a week or five days first. After you arrive it is easier to figure out if the Airbnb place works for you or sucks. The wifi, water pressure, noisy street, noisy planes, sketchy neighborhood at night vs daytime (in Rio Centro at night is fvcking deserted) the elevator is broken, or Damn loud construction noise at 0600 am, too far from restaurants or supermarket to walk, not *really* garota and marola friendly, air-con or heat doesn't work, nosy ass owner lives next door old lady wants to keep an "eye" on your place, worse —they are not responsive on wassap to fixing things. The security code stops working for no reason at 2 am. Stuff in the apartment breaks in a month. It's a damn pain in the ass to get a month's refund if the place doesn't live up to expectations. Easy to visit other Airbnb spots if there is a problem with the one you booked. If happy & everything works out offer to pay outside the app, via Stripe, and ask for a discount lower than [URL]booking.com[/URL] or Airbnb rate. Speaking some Portuguese helps in the communication.
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[QUOTE=Tochka;3008941]...... not *really* garota ... friendly......[/QUOTE]Now that's the deal breaker.
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[QUOTE=Tochka;3008941]In So Paulo book Airbnb for a week or five days first. After you arrive it is easier to figure out if the Airbnb place works for you or sucks. The wifi, water pressure, noisy street, noisy planes, sketchy neighborhood at night vs daytime (in Rio Centro at night is fvcking deserted) the elevator is broken, or Damn loud construction noise at 0600 am, too far from restaurants or supermarket to walk, not *really* garota and marola friendly, air-con or heat doesn't work, nosy ass owner lives next door old lady wants to keep an "eye" on your place, worse they are not responsive on wassap to fixing things. The security code stops working for no reason at 2 am. Stuff in the apartment breaks in a month. It's a damn pain in the ass to get a month's refund if the place doesn't live up to expectations. Easy to visit other Airbnb spots if there is a problem with the one you booked. If happy & everything works out offer to pay outside the app, via Stripe, and ask for a discount lower than [URL]booking.com[/URL] or Airbnb rate. Speaking some Portuguese helps in the communication.[/QUOTE]I was trying to save some money by booking by the month, but surprising I am getting good price for the hotels in Copacabana. Looks like I can get a really nice place for around 85 bucks a night which is doable for me. Are the hotels garota friendly? Am I getting price gouged at 85 a night or is that normal? Same for Sao paulo, are the hotels in Moema garota friendly or are these airbnb cities?
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São Paulo hotel thread
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3008980]I was trying to save some money by booking by the month, but surprising I am getting good price for the hotels in Copacabana. Looks like I can get a really nice place for around 85 bucks a night which is doable for me. Are the hotels garota friendly? Am I getting price gouged at 85 a night or is that normal? Same for Sao paulo, are the hotels in Moema garota friendly or are these airbnb cities?[/QUOTE]Recommend to read through a dozen or so pages of the So Paulo hotel thread.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4069-Sao-Paulo-Hotels-and-List[/URL]
Guys have shared their experiences in So Paulo hotel, Airbnb, GF etc. It also explains why dudes are not likely to share their favorite girlfriendly Airbnb spots.
I pay $32 usd a night low season up to $44 usd carnival time for the apartment .YMMV
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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3008980]I was trying to save some money by booking by the month, but surprising I am getting good price for the hotels in Copacabana. Looks like I can get a really nice place for around 85 bucks a night which is doable for me. Are the hotels garota friendly? Am I getting price gouged at 85 a night or is that normal? Same for Sao paulo, are the hotels in Moema garota friendly or are these airbnb cities?[/QUOTE]Most of the hotels in Copacabana are not girlfriendly, so you may have to talk to the hotel management you had booked with about guest policy.
I had stayed at Moema hotels Wyndham Ibirapuera Convention Plaza, Mercure times square and Mercure Privilege. All those hotels are girl friendly (up to the number of guests you have booked the room for).
Dealing with Airbnb apartments security every time I bring a guest is a hassle for me, so I prefer staying at reasonably priced hotels even if they are bit more expensive than Airbnbs.
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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3008980]I was trying to save some money by booking by the month, but surprising I am getting good price for the hotels in Copacabana. Looks like I can get a really nice place for around 85 bucks a night which is doable for me. Are the hotels garota friendly? Am I getting price gouged at 85 a night or is that normal? Same for Sao paulo, are the hotels in Moema garota friendly or are these airbnb cities?[/QUOTE]I stayed in Transamerica Prime International Plaza near Ave Paulista. It is 3+ stars hotel, but I rented it through Airbnb. Looks like some rooms are private and rented out on Airbnb. Just search Airbnb on that location. Price was 80+. This is hotel, so breakfast is available for are $62 and you can ask for free room service at any time. Wifi is good, but has some issues (I already reviewed it before). There are no any construction around, so it is quiet. Location is very good, in the center of everything. There is a self-service laundry in 10 minutes walk. Not sure about "guest friendliness", but looks like it should be OK, if you registered two guests.
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Mixed Copa
[QUOTE=Lalabo;3009085]Most of the hotels in Copacabana are not girlfriendly, so you may have to talk to the hotel management you had booked with about guest policy.
I had stayed at Moema hotels Wyndham Ibirapuera Convention Plaza, Mercure times square and Mercure Privilege. All those hotels are girl friendly (up to the number of guests you have booked the room for).
Dealing with Airbnb apartments security every time I bring a guest is a hassle for me, so I prefer staying at reasonably priced hotels even if they are bit more expensive than Airbnbs.[/QUOTE]I have had mixed experiences at Copa hotels.
Arena Leme (way east end) we went right in at 9:30 pm no questions.
Miramar Windsor (way west end) no prob registering my girl for a three day visit. Did get a little hassle at 4:30 AM when I brought a different girl. They made me unregister first girl and register second. No issue with extra fees.
Hilton (mid beach). Very mixed. Registered my GF for three days. Brought a different girl at 10 pm and walked right upstairs. Brought a different girl another day at 4 AM and they stopped me and wouldn't let me unregister reregister. Had to add her as a guest for extra fee.
So I guess YMMV tho it consistently wasn’t an issue in the evening but was in the wee hours. I just roll the dice. No nice hotel is like a hard stop on girls. I can't comment on Airbnb.
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[QUOTE=Tochka;3009070]Recommend to read through a dozen or so pages of the So Paulo hotel thread.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4069-Sao-Paulo-Hotels-and-List[/URL]
Guys have shared their experiences in So Paulo hotel, Airbnb, GF etc. It also explains why dudes are not likely to share their favorite girlfriendly Airbnb spots.
I pay $32 usd a night low season up to $44 usd carnival time for the apartment .YMMV[/QUOTE]Thanks for tip.
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Ola amigos
I realized I have some flight credits that expire pretty soon for AA and I don't want to lose them.
So I applied for a Visa last night, but have a question for anyone that could help I would be really grateful.
At my age my pecker needs Viagra to work and condoms are absolutely out of the question.
Are there any venues that they are negotiable for BBFS, I think Praca de Republica has some street action.
Also cheap casas / brothels in that area. Are there are other streetwalker scenes or casas / brothels where BBFS may be negotiable for an upcharge.
Like it is in most scenes around the world (but not all, like FKKs are pretty tough).
I've heard there are some brothels in Centro Rio, I may check them out.
But I want to see SP and I will certainly try to get some BBFS at Scandallo, and let you all know my results.
Although the idea of overpaying for possy is not my idea of a good time.
If I go in there and see a beautiful 18 yr old ballerina Goddess that wants my sperm and the money.
In my pocket I'm willing to splurge, but from what I've ever read about the place, it sounds like many other "upscale" hustles.
Where they have Pros usually 30+ MILFs that have been around the block more than once and are more mercenary than most that.
Find the venue that encourages their avarice, and they usually don't appreciate competition from hot fresh meat.
I'm flexible high end, low end and anything in between, my budget is very fluid.
My requirements are not, I need BBFS or nothing at all, and I don't like MILFs.
Give me a crack head off the street before some MILF in a dress w / 2 kids.
Many TIA to anyone that can help out the old pecker.
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Oh Boy
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3009240]I realized I have some flight credits that expire pretty soon for AA and I don't want to lose them.
So I applied for a Visa last night, but have a question for anyone that could help I would be really grateful.
At my age my pecker needs Viagra to work and condoms are absolutely out of the question.
Are there any venues that they are negotiable for BBFS, I think Praca de Republica has some street action.
Also cheap casas / brothels in that area. Are there are other streetwalker scenes or casas / brothels where BBFS may be negotiable for an upcharge.
Like it is in most scenes around the world (but not all, like FKKs are pretty tough).
I've heard there are some brothels in Centro Rio, I may check them out.
But I want to see SP and I will certainly try to get some BBFS at Scandallo, and let you all know my results.
Although the idea of overpaying for possy is not my idea of a good time.
If I go in there and see a beautiful 18 yr old ballerina Goddess that wants my sperm and the money.
In my pocket I'm willing to splurge, but from what I've ever read about the place, it sounds like many other "upscale" hustles.
Where they have Pros usually 30+ MILFs that have been around the block more than once and are more mercenary than most that.
Find the venue that encourages their avarice, and they usually don't appreciate competition from hot fresh meat.
I'm flexible high end, low end and anything in between, my budget is very fluid.
My requirements are not, I need BBFS or nothing at all, and I don't like MILFs.
Give me a crack head off the street before some MILF in a dress w / 2 kids.
Many TIA to anyone that can help out the old pecker.[/QUOTE]The silence is deafening, say it ain't so, it can't possibly be that lame.
Is it true that Brazil is the Milfs w / condoms capital of the Mongering World.
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[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3009609]
Is it true that Brazil is the Milfs w / condoms capital of the Mongering World.[/QUOTE]It most definitely is. I would recommend some other parts of the world.
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[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3009609]The silence is deafening, say it ain't so, it can't possibly be that lame.
Is it true that Brazil is the Milfs w / condoms capital of the Mongering World.[/QUOTE]For vaginal sex, Brazilian women are religious about using condoms on a first encounter. However, if you go with the same one 2-3 times, that frequently changes.
In contrast, for oral, they will almost always do it BB.
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Another trip
Day 1 plus Day 5, 12,13, 14.
Decided to try the infamous Scandallo. I had been avoiding Scandallo because I suspected it would ruin all other experiences.
It's a wide open and luxurious space. It reminds me of a sophisticated manhattan cocktail bar scaled to warehouse proportions with a restaurant, club size bar area with live music, another smaller bar, game room, outdoor atrium, and another smaller outdoor area. It's amazing.
I was overwhelmed. Not only by the space but the sea of elegant women. It was so overwhelming I actually wanted to leave within a few minutes. That said, by elegant, I don't necessarily mean physically attractive. Instead, hair, makeup, gorgeous cocktail dresses. I passed one person, a blonde, I thought looked attractive but continued visiting rest of the space. I didn't see anyone I found attractive. It seemed like I was searching for a unicorn. I was still thinking of the blonde. I find her still sitting alone and walk up. Now that I'm close, I realize she's in her younger 20's, instagram curvy. Still thin with be cups. Beautiful face and later discover her micro bikini tan likes. Like, I said, Instagram hot. Found the unicorn.
I ask her to spend the night because I want to leave the noise immediately. I propose R2 K, she counters at 3 k, I counter at 2 K, she agrees. I later learn she's studying to become an attorney but we'll see with this merciless negotiation strategy.
She turns out to be insatiable. Not too small, not too big, I can still stretch her without hurting her. Two sessions before midnight and another before 4 am. She stays the next day. Gets out of bed and the a shower around noon. Pulls me immediately from the kitchen back to bed for another two hours. We end up meeting again the following Tuesday for the night. She stays until 5 pm after she's finally satisfied. A week later, she wants to meet again but I'm tired and literally sore. I tell her another night but we end up spending another two nights together where she offered herself over both nights for R1000 because she misses "it. ".
Day 2.
Head back to Scandallo. Stayed for four hours until just after 11 pm and didn't see anyone so headed to Casarao. Found a morena. Busty, big butt, a bit older, mid 30's. Usually not for me but the way everything pushed out of her dress I thought I needed to try. She turns out to be the kinkiest I've ever met. Did things to me I've never experienced and lived to drinki cum. So, that was a worthwhile experience for R1500 because it was unique.
Day 3.
Back to Casarao. I run into my regular, a 27 year old morena but so petite she looks like a college freshman. I want to take her home but she asks to meet the next day so she can make cash since she doesn't charge me anything. So, I try to give her money but she refuses. The confusion is awkward because I would just give her the cash to cover her night but the discussion is a dead-end. I walk off but only five steps later I see a 5'5 thin morena with a thin almost Egyptian face.
15 minutes later, we're headed to my place for R1000. On the way, she asked me about my work. I described my profession and how I switched into it in 2005. I learn she was born in 2006. So, we're back at my place at midnight, looks even better without her dress, and also turns out to be insatiable. We spend over an hour in bed immediately after arriving. Spent an hour having wine and then she pulled me back to bed for the next two hours. We finally sleep between 4 and 5 am. I wake up to her at 10 blowing me and we don't finish until noon when she promptly dresses, fixes her hair, and calls an Uber home.
We meet again a week later for the same R1000 but 8 pm to midnight.
Day 5.
Like I said above, the Scandallo blonde. R2000 for the night.
Day 7 thru Day 10. Thursday through Sunday, June 12th.
My regular wants to come over. The ultra petite morena. She brings weed and we relax and catch up until 5 am. She starfishes in bed. It's nice to not use a condom but laying with a dead fish isn't life changing. I get bored and fall sleep within 15 minutes. The next afternoon she exclaims she can stay until Sunday. Great. She starfishes again that night, blows me for a bit, but then dead fish again. I put myself to sleep within 15 minutes. She leaves the next day but it was a wasted weekend.
Day 11.
I head back to Casarao. There by 10:30. By midnight, I spot a 5'7" iight morena in heels. She's probably thirty, thin, still curvy. She's immediately affectionate and we're next door in 15 minutes. She sucked and fucked for over an hour. There was screaming.
Day 12,13, 14.
Scandallo blonde again. Two sessions by 11 pm. I spend an hour in the hot tub. I get out and she pulls me to the hard couch and climbs me. Turned her over and pounded her bracing my weight with the floor on the side of the couch. This goes over the entire stay.
Day 14.
Scandallo blonde leaves. I couldn't cum the first night with her. I came twice the second. The last two nights. No joy.
I head to Clinica Yankin after she leaves just after 2 pm. Unlike my scandallo instagram model, I find a petite 20 yr old college student. She's tan, thin, beautiful, 5' nothing, couldn't be 100 lbs. She wants me to cum in her mouth. I don't refuse. Back at my place by 5 pm feeling absolutely centered.
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An interesting writing style, what country are you from
[QUOTE=Hanzonamura;3010010]Day 1 plus Day 5, 12,13, 14.
Decided to try the infamous Scandallo. I had been avoiding Scandallo because I suspected it would ruin all other experiences.
It's a wide open and luxurious space. It reminds me of a sophisticated manhattan cocktail bar scaled to warehouse proportions with a restaurant, club size bar area with live music, another smaller bar, game room, outdoor atrium, and another smaller outdoor area. It's amazing.
I was overwhelmed. Not only by the space but the sea of elegant women. It was so overwhelming I actually wanted to leave within a few minutes. That said, by elegant, I don't necessarily mean physically attractive. Instead, hair, makeup, gorgeous cocktail dresses. I passed one person, a blonde, I thought looked attractive but continued visiting rest of the space. I didn't see anyone I found attractive. It seemed like I was searching for a unicorn. I was still thinking of the blonde. I find her still sitting alone and walk up. Now that I'm close, I realize she's in her younger 20's, instagram curvy. Still thin with be cups. Beautiful face and later discover her micro bikini tan likes. Like, I said, Instagram hot. Found the unicorn.
I ask her to spend the night because I want to leave the noise immediately. I propose R2 K, she counters at 3 k, I counter at 2 K, she agrees. I later learn she's studying to become an attorney but we'll see with this merciless negotiation strategy.
She turns out to be insatiable. Not too small, not too big, I can still stretch her without hurting her. Two sessions before midnight and another before 4 am. She stays the next day. Gets out of bed and the a shower around noon. Pulls me immediately from the kitchen back to bed for another two hours. We end up meeting again the following Tuesday for the night. She stays until 5 pm after she's finally satisfied. A week later, she wants to meet again but I'm tired and literally sore. I tell her another night but we end up spending another two nights together where she offered herself over both nights for R1000 because she misses "it. ".
Day 2.
Head back to Scandallo. Stayed for four hours until just after 11 pm and didn't see anyone so headed to Casarao. Found a morena. Busty, big butt, a bit older, mid 30's. Usually not for me but the way everything pushed out of her dress I thought I needed to try. She turns out to be the kinkiest I've ever met. Did things to me I've never experienced and lived to drinki cum. So, that was a worthwhile experience for R1500 because it was unique.
Day 3.
Back to Casarao. I run into my regular, a 27 year old morena but so petite she looks like a college freshman. I want to take her home but she asks to meet the next day so she can make cash since she doesn't charge me anything. So, I try to give her money but she refuses. The confusion is awkward because I would just give her the cash to cover her night but the discussion is a dead-end. I walk off but only five steps later I see a 5'5 thin morena with a thin almost Egyptian face.
15 minutes later, we're headed to my place for R1000. On the way, she asked me about my work. I described my profession and how I switched into it in 2005. I learn she was born in 2006. So, we're back at my place at midnight, looks even better without her dress, and also turns out to be insatiable. We spend over an hour in bed immediately after arriving. Spent an hour having wine and then she pulled me back to bed for the next two hours. We finally sleep between 4 and 5 am. I wake up to her at 10 blowing me and we don't finish until noon when she promptly dresses, fixes her hair, and calls an Uber home.
We meet again a week later for the same R1000 but 8 pm to midnight.
Day 5.
Like I said above, the Scandallo blonde. R2000 for the night.
Day 7 thru Day 10. Thursday through Sunday, June 12th.
My regular wants to come over. The ultra petite morena. She brings weed and we relax and catch up until 5 am. She starfishes in bed. It's nice to not use a condom but laying with a dead fish isn't life changing. I get bored and fall sleep within 15 minutes. The next afternoon she exclaims she can stay until Sunday. Great. She starfishes again that night, blows me for a bit, but then dead fish again. I put myself to sleep within 15 minutes. She leaves the next day but it was a wasted weekend.
Day 11.
I head back to Casarao. There by 10:30. By midnight, I spot a 5'7" iight morena in heels. She's probably thirty, thin, still curvy. She's immediately affectionate and we're next door in 15 minutes. She sucked and fucked for over an hour. There was screaming.
Day 12,13, 14.
Scandallo blonde again. Two sessions by 11 pm. I spend an hour in the hot tub. I get out and she pulls me to the hard couch and climbs me. Turned her over and pounded her bracing my weight with the floor on the side of the couch. This goes over the entire stay.
Day 14.
Scandallo blonde leaves. I couldn't cum the first night with her. I came twice the second. The last two nights. No joy.
I head to Clinica Yankin after she leaves just after 2 pm. Unlike my scandallo instagram model, I find a petite 20 yr old college student. She's tan, thin, beautiful, 5' nothing, couldn't be 100 lbs. She wants me to cum in her mouth. I don't refuse. Back at my place by 5 pm feeling absolutely centered.[/QUOTE]Is it possible to ask for a break down of how vaginal and / or anal sex transpired with or without Glad bags.
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[QUOTE=Hanzonamura;3010010]Day 1 plus Day 5, 12,13, 14.
I was overwhelmed. Not only by the space but the sea of elegant women. It was so overwhelming I actually wanted to leave within a few minutes. That said, by elegant, I don't necessarily mean physically attractive. Instead, hair, makeup, gorgeous cocktail dresses. I passed one person, a blonde, I thought looked attractive but continued visiting rest of the space. I didn't see anyone I found attractive. It seemed like I was searching for a unicorn. [/QUOTE]This is exactly what I feel. There are hundreds of beautiful, well groomed woman around, but I have to spend hours trying to find somebody, with whom I wanted to have sex.
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Re: An interesting writing style, what country are you from
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3010027]Is it possible to ask for a break down of how vaginal and / or anal sex transpired with or without Glad bags.[/QUOTE]Born in Korea, grep up in the US, east coast near DC.
There was only one who offered anal. I met her during my last trip. Early 20's, mostly thin, short. She wanted to come by and spend the night but the regular person I mentioned was squatting at my place. This didn't bother me.
My instagram has me play with her ass but I don't go for it. I never try anal because it's typically inconvenient. It's either the beginning of the end or shower in the middle to go back to anything else. The only time I enjoyed was with a previous GF who liked it in the morning. She would lube herself up as we woke up and push herself against me and we would lie their lazily until I finished.
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Clinics
I'm staying in Vila Olimpia. A week ago, I decided to tour clinics for an afternoon as an alternative to late evenings in a club.
Planned nicer clinics first, Palms, Ora, Lotus, hoping I'd find someone without investing the effort of running all over town across the abundance of clinics because life in Brazil has made me lethargic like I need a machine operated mattress to lift me in bed before demanding head.
I had stopped at Palms once before and didn't find anyone interesting from the ipad menu. This time was no different. Same experience at Ora. I like to think I'm not excessively selective but, instead, this problem stemming from ipad photos. The photos portrayed women who competitively dead lifted Buicks. They're likely far more attractive in-person. Also note: the Palms waiting area was empty and, while unintended, felt private. Ora was packed with over a dozen dudes, business casual, taking last minute meetings and responding to emails like an airport lounge before a flight. Skipped over Lotus.
While I was most interested in Yankin, I took advantage of the concentration of clinics in Moema and ordered an Uber.
Moema Prime, Lakshmi, Miruna, Abbobora. Each parade mostly involved women from frightening old to others who still had meat sweats from a brazilian steak house. In each lineup, there were often one or two young and thin. Unfortunately, none were pretty. I found myself tempted but only if I could mentally convince myself they weren't suffering from an eating disorder or discovered crack addiction. I pass on each clinic.
This tour was a repeat experience with the same result. Similar to the last, the tour took less than two hours, a few Uber rides $2 to $4 USD each, both ending at the bar at 57 friends. Just two unlucky days.
So, I will try again but plan on stopping by Yankin first since that was the only place I found someone. On Yankin, there were a half dozen men in the waiting area. Mostly older asian. One who laid on the couch with his bare feet. I was taken to another room which appeared to be a bar and smoking area. Opened the door and there must have been a dozen, maybe 18 men, filling all the tables, drinking, burning tobacco. When I sat through the lineup, no one else seemed interested and wondered why everyone was there like bored extras in a movie.
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If you can remember the condom requirements for your previous post
[QUOTE=Hanzonamura;3010174]Born in Korea, grep up in the US, east coast near DC.
There was only one who offered anal. I met her during my last trip. Early 20's, mostly thin, short. She wanted to come by and spend the night but the regular person I mentioned was squatting at my place. This didn't bother me.
My instagram has me play with her ass but I don't go for it. I never try anal because it's typically inconvenient. It's either the beginning of the end or shower in the middle to go back to anything else. The only time I enjoyed was with a previous GF who liked it in the morning. She would lube herself up as we woke up and push herself against me and we would lie their lazily until I finished.[/QUOTE]Can you please share with us.
TIA.
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[QUOTE=Hanzonamura;3010177]I'm staying in Vila Olimpia. A week ago, I decided to tour clinics for an afternoon as an alternative to late evenings in a club.....
I had stopped at Palms once before and didn't find anyone interesting from the ipad menu...
Moema Prime, Lakshmi, Miruna, Abbobora. Each parade mostly involved women from frightening old to others who still had meat sweats from a brazilian steak house....
.[/QUOTE]That's crazy that you didn't find anyone in Sao Paul, Brazil of all places. Is it that you're just into very petite and thin women? I love the Brazilians and Colombians, but I was in Thailand in January and found myself hard pressed to find a girl I was interested in because of their body type.
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[QUOTE=Hanzonamura;3010174]
My instagram has me play with her ass but I don't go for it. I never try anal because it's typically inconvenient. It's either the beginning of the end or shower in the middle to go back to anything else. The only time I enjoyed was with a previous GF who liked it in the morning. She would lube herself up as we woke up and push herself against me and we would lie their lazily until I finished.....[/QUOTE]Interesting. My last Brasiliera girlfriend was the same way. I never pushed for anal, but after we'd been together for about 2 weeks she instigated it in the morning. It kind of became a regular thing from there. Maybe a Brazil thing?
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[QUOTE=Hanzonamura;3010010]Day 1 plus Day 5, 12,13, 14.
......Day 11.
I head back to Casarao. There by 10:30. By midnight, I spot a 5'7" iight morena in heels. ....She sucked and fucked for over an hour. There was screaming....
[/QUOTE]We've all been there. Love it LOL!
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Re: Maybe a Brazil thing?
[QUOTE=Chicago85;3010341]Interesting. My last Brasiliera girlfriend was the same way. I never pushed for anal, but after we'd been together for about 2 weeks she instigated it in the morning. It kind of became a regular thing from there. Maybe a Brazil thing?[/QUOTE]This was a shot girl I met at Cheerleaders when I lived in Philly. We casually dated between relationships for about five years. 5'5 dark black, thin, perfect apple bottom.
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Re: Is it that you're just into very petite and thin women?
[QUOTE=Chicago85;3010339]That's crazy that you didn't find anyone in Sao Paul, Brazil of all places. Is it that you're just into very petite and thin women? I love the Brazilians and Colombians, but I was in Thailand in January and found myself hard pressed to find a girl I was interested in because of their body type.[/QUOTE]I was for a time because I was married to someone who resembled the typical playboy model and was drawn to something different. Growing up in the 80's, I was with and married to someone because it's all I saw in magazines. After, I wanted petite, thin, and short but discovered it isn't fun. They're too small everywhere, there isn't enough to hold, things don't fit, it's sometimes mutually painful.
I prefer 5'5 or taller, still thin, curves. The Scandallo instagram girl I've been spending time with and the Casarao light morena are the best examples. The IG person would resemble a young Megan Fox if she dyed her hair from blonde. I learned today she's exactly half my age, 24, after checking a copy of her photo ID into my next property. The 30 yr old Casarao morena looks and dresses like a hot executive secretary. She's impossible to miss. Her name is Luiza. It wouldn't be a bad idea to look for her at the club.
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[QUOTE=Chicago85;3010343]We've all been there. Love it LOL![/QUOTE]Luiza. The hotel buzzed the door for the next 30 minutes after the hour. I mention this to note they didn't charge for the extra room time.
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Re: If you can remember the condom requirements for your previous pos
[QUOTE=FFlintstone69;3010315]Can you please share with us..[/QUOTE]All require condoms for sex initially and almost all prefer without for oral. I normally don't mind condoms during sex. I suppose it's because it still feels new after so many long-term relationships. For oral, it's imperative to ask. With my luck, the only two times I didn't ask while laying plans later required a condom in the room for oral. This happened once in the hotel by Casarao during my last trip and the second time at my place with a girl from Casarao, dyed blonde, dark roots, taller, ultra lazy in bed, her name is Vivi.
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Trip continued
Day 15.
Back at Casarao looking for someone voluptuous. It's 11 pm and find what appeared to be a thin black girl, 5'5, with see / the cups, and something to hold onto from behind. As she gathers her purse, she removes her heels, and, suddenly, she's only 5'. She seems short and mildly stocky as a result she's rubbing her ass against me and grabbing through my pants so I stupidly decide to stick to the plan. She has a car and drives us back to my place. She did aim to please in the shower, in the bed, on the couch, back in bed, but I couldn't get into it and leaves by 3 am. I didn't mind sleeping in Saturday to a quiet room without concerning myself with making breakfast for someone.
Day 16.
Rest, fast, two bottles of wine.
Day 17.
Plans with Instagram girl. Our plans involve rope.
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Oh no not another strike against Brazil
[QUOTE=Chicago85;3010339]That's crazy that you didn't find anyone in Sao Paul, Brazil of all places. Is it that you're just into very petite and thin women? I love the Brazilians and Colombians, but I was in Thailand in January and found myself hard pressed to find a girl I was interested in because of their body type.[/QUOTE]Body type, your comment may suggest they are the exact opposite of what most guys prefer, thin and petite.
Can I paint a hypothetical and you tell me if I'm wrong, a Sofia Vergara types with ink and favela attitudes? (over 25 yrs old is over the hill for hooking IMHO).
In my experience the higher a WGs BMI the risk of more masculine personas increases, smokers that like to drink etc etc etc.
I like the more petite college freshman gymnast types, no ink, no smokers, no implants, no kids, low BMI.
I'm generalizing a bit but when they smoke, drink, curse like sailors and have tattoos I detect they are trying to emulate men.
Does anyone know Veronica Rodriguez from porn, that's my target.
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I not only agree I think the way you ordered the list was spot on.
DR too which is dead last IMO.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3008760]The best punting destination in the Americas by far, IMHO, is Brazil (SP, RJ), then followed somewhat distantly by Bogota, Medellin, Cartagena, and finally San Jose. Now don't get me wrong, you can have a fun time in any of these towns, but SP & RJ are better at provided both the high end and the not so high end experience. KKK.
As an alternative to the countries mentioned: you might also want to check out some other cities and towns in Brazil or even hop down to BA and see what is going on down there if Colombia turns you off.[/QUOTE]
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Tour de Clinicas
Thank you bros for all the information on this thread. Special thanks to Tochka and Knowledge for tips on Sunday options.
I arrived on a Sunday afternoon and went to check out Yankin. There I had a great time with 21-year old Bruna. A sumptuous start for my week here! I contemplated going to Casarao in the night but had work meetings in the morning next day. I am not really a club / bar kind of a guy and based on my first SP clinica experience I wanted to try more.
Over the course of the week I found opportunities to sneak out (travelling here with co-workers) to visit Red Massagem and Tangara and had delightful experiences with various body types and colors. Nevertheless Yankin was my favorite. Less fuss, less crowded.
I missed out on going to Casarao and Scandallo. Perhaps someday I will be back for it. I do appreciate how girls are dressed at these clinicas for the presentation (revealing, sometimes next to nothing). I found in the clubs in Dubai all the makeup and fancy dresses can hide some underwhelming goods underneath.
While this was not the biggest motivator, it was a pleasant surprise that after I totaled what I paid for the 5 visits to clinicas with these beautiful girls, it was about the same as one AMP visit in the USA!
Stay thirty bros!
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Hotel bars
I stayed at Hilton Sao Paolo Morumbi. I love to explore local cuisine and restaurants so hardly ever eat / drink in the hotel but on this one night it was late (10 PM) and I decided to go to the Compass bar on first floor in the hotel. I noticed a brown beauty with curly blonde hair at the bar so of course I found a seat close to her. Soon she makes eye contact and smiles. We are chatting about all kinds of things. She tells me she lived in Cologne working as a German fitness model and shows me her modeling photos. Offers to show me some ab exercises if we go to my room. Soon a friend of hers arrives at the bar and inserts herself in the conversation telling me that she is a student learning Java programming blah blah. After about 1 hour of this they both aggressively start pitching going to the room in relation to any topic of discussion. 2 K for all night or 1 K for 1 hour.
Sharing here as an interesting option, if you are not in the mood or don't have the time to go to the club. Worth checking your hotel bar for options. My suspicion is that some girls make this stop for an early win before heading to Scandallo or Casarao.
As for me, my balls were dry that night. Sucked off after 2 clinica visits earlier in the day. So I enjoyed the flirting but declined their offer and headed back to my room to sleep.
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[QUOTE=LoveStallion;3010459]........While this was not the biggest motivator, it was a pleasant surprise that after I totaled what I paid for the 5 visits to clinicas with these beautiful girls, it was about the same as one AMP visit in the USA!
Stay thirty bros![/QUOTE]US AMPS are generally more expensive than Brazilian clinicas but methinks you do pay too much for the AMPs. If I had stayed thirty I'd be totally broke from all the paid sex over the past forty years.😊
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While looking up some info on a clinica I came across the following map of SP listing a bunch of the clinicas:
[URL]https://mapagp.com/[/URL]
I don't know how accurate the price listing is, but the locations look to be correct on the map. I hope this helps others out.
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[QUOTE=WillieDave;3010544]While looking up some info on a clinica I came across the following map of SP listing a bunch of the clinicas:
[URL]https://mapagp.com/[/URL]
I don't know how accurate the price listing is, but the locations look to be correct on the map. I hope this helps others out.[/QUOTE]Nice find. Thanks.
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Took about five weeks
I wondered how long it would take to be satiated. This lifestyle of discretionary instant intimacy with virtually any woman is its own relationship type. Is there a honeymoon period which could, god forbid, last six months or more?
Well, I've discovered, personally, the honeymoon period is about five weeks. Five weeks of actively visiting clubs, spending nights with regulars, and one daytime detour to a clinica.
Just spent another night with my Scandallo girl until 3 pm. She'd like to meet again along with another who's a better version of "Samy Sun7. " I have a week left out of two back-to-back three week trips. I could meet both and make time to find one or two others at Scandallo or Casarao. However, I'm very much ready to return to my common American life.
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Places to stay
I've now stayed in Moema, Itaim Bibi, and Vila Olimpia. There was also a side trip to a beach home in Guajara with a half acre in the rear with an outdoor pool partially extending into an indoor pool house with sauna and showers, two hot tubs, six other bedrooms and a theatre we never used. That aside.
We each have our preferences. Mine has become Vila Olimpia high rises. The first was a modern two bedroom with a private balcony including hot tub. The second is not as modern, a studio, but well-appointed with a living room, office, full kitchen, two bathrooms, and floor to ceiling sliding glass doors to the balcony running lengthwise along the entire unit. I most appreciate the security staff, housekeeping, and access via face recognition. Other benefits being markets, restaurants, mall including Claro, 24 x7 access to indoor ATMs at a Santander bank. The first 200 a night and the second 140.
The second property prohibited guests who weren't registered by check-in. I did register my regular beforehand. When bringing her into the lobby, I looked to the security desk offer her ID and they dismissively waved us towards the elevators. She was very much made up and dressed like a high end prostitute.
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Great Find!
[QUOTE=WillieDave;3010544]While looking up some info on a clinica I came across the following map of SP listing a bunch of the clinicas:
[URL]https://mapagp.com/[/URL]
I don't know how accurate the price listing is, but the locations look to be correct on the map. I hope this helps others out.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing!
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[QUOTE=Hanzonamura;3010692]I wondered how long it would take to be satiated. This lifestyle of discretionary instant intimacy with virtually any woman is its own relationship type. Is there a honeymoon period which could, god forbid, last six months or more?
Well, I've discovered, personally, the honeymoon period is about five weeks. Five weeks of actively visiting clubs, spending nights with regulars, and one daytime detour to a clinica.
Just spent another night with my Scandallo girl until 3 pm. She'd like to meet again along with another who's a better version of "Samy Sun7. " I have a week left out of two back-to-back three week trips. I could meet both and make time to find one or two others at Scandallo or Casarao. However, I'm very much ready to return to my common American life.[/QUOTE]Hey are you still in SP? Would love to meet up and share some of your insights over some drinks. I'm here for the next 3 weeks.
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Casarao visit
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3004260]That describes K to a tee. Cutie pie. Love me a Morena. Rocking a green bikini with her perfect be / see cups. Cee had a magenta one but she wasn't burning up the social media as much as K. Yeah bet that's her. You may already know her if you see her social media but she's a rocking good time.[/QUOTE]Yeah K hit me up on wassap. She was bringing a hot young 19 year old beauty to casarao for a Duplo session. Dann lot of fun with her new girlfriend. She also didn't like when I found another garota for round two. I had to delete those shitty jealous messages to not ruin our karma. Brasilian women attitudes turn on a dime.
Her sister agreed to travel to São Paulo this weekend. Cannot wait to try double trouble in the pool. She has a new blue bikini to go with her green one.
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[QUOTE=Hanzonamura;3010692]I wondered how long it would take to be satiated. This lifestyle of discretionary instant intimacy with virtually any woman is its own relationship type. Is there a honeymoon period which could, god forbid, last six months or more?
Well, I've discovered, personally, the honeymoon period is about five weeks. Five weeks of actively visiting clubs, spending nights with regulars, and one daytime detour to a clinica.......[/QUOTE]Satiated you say? Then just five days after getting back home you want to return.
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Love Motel. Motel Asturias
Perhaps this should go in a different thread, but I figured it comes up enough to put in the main SP one.
Last night I was in a familiar scenario where I didn't want to add another guest to my airbnb and needed an option. I'm staying in Moema and did not want to travel far and went to Motel Asturias (Pinheiro) on a friends suggestion. It turned out to be a great spot if you're with a first time girl who may be sketchy or if you just want to have a solid sport fucking session with a garota or two. It's 400 R for the base suite, but this is two floors, probably 1000 sq ft and includes a jacuzzi as well as sauna (plus queen bed). The Presidential suite is 650 R and includes a pool. In my case it was a hell of a lot of fun fucking the girl all over the suite (jacuzzi, bed, on stairs, shower, etc.). I even got a last rushed one in at her request as her Uber was on the way. So much pressure gentleman!!
The reservations are generally for 5 hours or all night. It's set up for you to arrive in your own car, so if you arrive by Uber it can be a bit confusing. They have a full menu of drinks, food, sex toys (ha ha), but probably best to bring your own as prices are understandably inflated. Lastly, they call you when the girl arrives and when she leaves, so you have an extra level of protection. On the down side, no ice for drinks and needed to call for drink glasses, but small issue.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;3011322]Satiated you say? Then just five days after getting back home you want to return.[/QUOTE]I'm wrapping two three week trips. I left dissatisfied after my first trip. Returned to São Paulo for work after a brief hiatus. Two weeks into the second trip I felt content. Unsure if you're proposing a math challenge but that's the calculus.
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Fiesta Junina in scandallo
For Festa Junina my Brazilian girlfriend and I went to Scandallo Friday night. We wanted to find young pretty, fit garotas for a threesome night at a love motel. Scandallo is a great place for couples to find sexy Instagram garotas without worrying about Instagram scammers or fake profiles.
The food, dancing, drinks, dinner, and music is a fun night out. We had a blast. We chose to sit at the table up front near the band. We were dancing like crazy to retro classics played by the local band Rednova. My girl was interviewing different hot garotas. Then I would interview and negotiate the price. Damn, I didn't realize the huge price jump. At 10 pm or 11 pm garotas we met were firm on 1500 brl to go up to the room or more to exit. I said heck no. Instead Give me your Insta profile and WhatsApp number. We can message to hook up later (and at a much lower price).
Around 2 am found a pretty blonde tall fit Instagram model. That blonde ass Branca has a firm bunda from going to the "academia". She started deep French kissing my gal right from the jump. I joined in the kissing too!. We didn't give a crap who was staring at us doing a mini-passionate kissing threesome at our table.
We were all super attracted to each other and horny as hell.
Finally time for negotiations. I offered 800 brl for a couple's threesome session upstairs in the hotel. She needed a smoke break to think about the offer. My girlfriend went with her. When they came back she agreed on 800 brl for a session.
It's been a very long time since I was in the hotel upstairs. It's expensive compared to going out to a love motel nearby. I did a report on the many local love motels options around scandallos.
In the room, We had erotic threesome session experience with the young blonde fitness model. Smoked some Good marola 520, whiskey, drinks, music. I still prefer love motels for the price, pool, jacuzzi, room service, and privacy.
Nope I don't remember how long our time together was, definitely closer to an hour and a half or two hours. I didn't check the time. I gave her 800 brl as agreed. We already made plans to hook up again this week at a less expensive place and half the scandalous price point.
BTW there will be a 520 marola conference and fair in the fall. Already got my NFL Sao Paulo tickets and marola tickets too. Kkkk.
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FKK Veteran's first visit to Scandallo, is it worth it?
Hello folks,
I'm planning a trip to visit Brazil for the first time for the famous Scandallo. Money is not an issue.
My expectations are a bit high from all the reviews on Scandallo - 200 girls, Amazing service, model like quality.
TBH, I'm not even going to bother visiting other options available in Brazil like Termas in Rio 4 x 4, Centaurus, Clinicas, Casarao etc, I'm just interested in Scandallo. The top most quality place and I'm going to assume everything else is down a notch or like something else I've already seen.
I've been to quite a lot of FKKs in Germany, done 100+ rooms at FKK Sharks alone. I haven't contributed on ISG but I have contributed a lot of info on subreddit FKK Sharks, it's the same username, feel free to DM me on reddit for proof.
I've been chasing Caucasian women around the world but nothing seems to satisfy. Sometimes I find quality but not quantity like a few diamonds in the rough young, college type, blonde hair, blue eyes in Luxury brothels in Sydney, Escort agencies in. Montreal, Lisbon, Athens, Nightclubs in Dubai but if I need a larger quantity doing room after room, I have to work with Romanians in the FKK like Sharks.
My questions are -.
1. How's the girl quality / LU in scandallo currently? With FKKs lately the quality is on the decline I'm seeing a lot of ugly typical low quality street walker type hookers. Older, lot of botox in lips, silicon boobs, trashy tattoos, fat, ugly, smokers. Is Scandallo quality level similar or more classy, younger, model looking types?
2. What percent of the girls are Caucasian? I know FKKs are 90% Romanians many of them darker typically Gypsy looking. I don't want to go to Scandallo just to find out it's another FKK with majority of the girls are not my type. And I'm stuck with chasing 1 popular girl that everyone else is crowding. I need quality and quantity.
3. Is Scandallo really worth it?
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Scandallo Way Better
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3012634]Hello folks,
I'm planning a trip to visit Brazil for the first time for the famous Scandallo. Money is not an issue.
My expectations are a bit high from all the reviews on Scandallo - 200 girls, Amazing service, model like quality.
TBH, I'm not even going to bother visiting other options available in Brazil like Termas in Rio 4 x 4, Centaurus, Clinicas, Casarao etc, I'm just interested in Scandallo. The top most quality place and I'm going to assume everything else is down a notch or like something else I've already seen.
I've been to quite a lot of FKKs in Germany, done 100+ rooms at FKK Sharks alone. I haven't contributed on ISG but I have contributed a lot of info on subreddit FKK Sharks, it's the same username, feel free to DM me on reddit for proof.
I've been chasing Caucasian women around the world but nothing seems to satisfy. Sometimes I find quality but not quantity like a few diamonds in the rough young, college type, blonde hair, blue eyes in Luxury brothels in Sydney, Escort agencies in. Montreal, Lisbon, Athens, Nightclubs in Dubai but if I need a larger quantity doing room after room, I have to work with Romanians in the FKK like Sharks.
My questions are -.
1. How's the girl quality / LU in scandallo currently? With FKKs lately the quality is on the decline I'm seeing a lot of ugly typical low quality street walker type hookers. Older, lot of botox in lips, silicon boobs, trashy tattoos, fat, ugly, smokers. Is Scandallo quality level similar or more classy, younger, model looking types?
2. What percent of the girls are Caucasian? I know FKKs are 90% Romanians many of them darker typically Gypsy looking. I don't want to go to Scandallo just to find out it's another FKK with majority of the girls are not my type. And I'm stuck with chasing 1 popular girl that everyone else is crowding. I need quality and quantity.
3. Is Scandallo really worth it?[/QUOTE]Yes I am biased towards Latinas and morena color girls but I try my best to be objective on this forum knowing tastes are not the same.
That said, Scandallo absolutely slays Sharks. There are more hot girls per square meter than any other place I know of. And yes I've been to Sharks recently. True it's prob 80% more brunettes and such, but def 10-20% blonds or red heads or more fair skinned types. That doesn't sound like a lot but at the number of girls there it's plenty. And don't discount the environment either. Its nothing like FKK and girls instantly wanting to bag you and take you to the room. If you find someone I like invite her to drink with you. Don't waste her time but no problem spending a half hour or more just drinking dancing and making out. And yes you should absolutely make out with your girl right there in the club. It's Brazil.
Do yourself a favor and get a bottle and a table if $$ is not an issue. King of the world. Invite a girl or two to share your bottle and mixers. Listen to the band. Make out. Dance. Then go to the room. It's really a once in a lifetime experience and absolutely slays Sharks IMO.
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[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3012634]
My questions are -.
1. How's the girl quality / LU in scandallo currently? With FKKs lately the quality is on the decline I'm seeing a lot of ugly typical low quality street walker type hookers. Older, lot of botox in lips, silicon boobs, trashy tattoos, fat, ugly, smokers. Is Scandallo quality level similar or more classy, younger, model looking types?
2. What percent of the girls are Caucasian? I know FKKs are 90% Romanians many of them darker typically Gypsy looking. I don't want to go to Scandallo just to find out it's another FKK with majority of the girls are not my type. And I'm stuck with chasing 1 popular girl that everyone else is crowding. I need quality and quantity.
3. Is Scandallo really worth it?[/QUOTE]I last visited Scandallo on April 29, when I met up with a couple of esteemed punters. I had been in SP for 3 weeks. My friends had just arrived in town. It was a Tuesday night. The night started out a little slow, but by 10 pm I had found a very attractive, friendly, tall & slender blond who was a former stewardess for Azul Airline. She passed the audition with flying colors, and we clicked in the room where she gave me BBFS after I went down on her.
Around midnight, I was back in the entertainment bar area where I hooked up with one of my friends again. We walked around the place and we could not help but notice how packed Scan had become. It was almost wall to wall girls with a large number of lookers. I started to think about taking another girl upstairs, but you know how it is in SP sometimes, KKK, earlier in the afternoon I had my favorite girl come by my hotel for boom boom, lunch, and a few refers by the pool. So, Valeria and the stewardess made it a 10* day.
So it was around 1 am when my friend and I decided to call it a night. As we descended to the front desk to pay our respective tabs, we both noticed that more hotties were still arriving! It was fucking amazing. !am! So yeah, Scandallo has the quality and IMHO is worth every BR.
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Brancas
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3012634] What percent of the girls are Caucasian? I know FKKs are 90% Romanians many of them darker typically Gypsy looking. I don't want to go to Scandallo just to find out it's another FKK with majority of the girls are not my type. And I'm stuck with chasing 1 popular girl that everyone else is crowding. I need quality and quantity. Is Scandallo really worth it?[/QUOTE]I'm into the "brancas" or white girls just like you. I have been going to Brazil off and on for over a couple of decades now, and was there last earlier this year for a 30-day stretch. In that time, I mongered in Sao Paulo, Rio, Curitiba, and Florianopilis. And I can honestly say that it was the poorest showing of hot white girls on the stroll that I have ever experienced in Brazil. So much so that I said so in my reports, and asked out loud on the open board what the deal was. Surely, the fact that I was there in Sampa during carnivale had something to do with it. I'm talking lots of poorly attended, low energy clubs with far too many uglies and fatties. I'll never got to Brazil to monger during carnivale ever again! But even after landing in Rio shortly after carnivale it was a lot of the same thing (carnivale hangover maybe).
Sure, I found some jewels here and there, including in Curitiba and Florianopolis. In fact, I think the one club I attended that had the single highest concentration of brancas was Class Lounge in Curitiba. But my last trip was nothing like those several early trips I took to Rio (wasn't going to Sao Paulo in the beginning) where I was finding hot brancas in the termas left and right! More than enough to be totally satisfied (peruse some of my old pics in the "Anal Connoiseurs" thread to see picture proof). I think that the aftermath of COVID has something to do with it as well. Tutes discovered that like everybody else they could do more work from home versus sitting around in a dark, noisy club waiting for tricks with deep pockets to show up. Another senior monger here who lives in Rio and knows what he's talking about surmised that the hot ones are being snatched up by wealthy Brazilians before they can even hit the public circuit.
Now all this said, Scandallo and Brazil are absolutely worth it! There's no way I'm going to discard my favorite place in the world to monger after one subpar trip after all of these years (Germany is a strong number 2). You're not going during or slightly after carnivale, so that's going to work in your favor. And I can honestly say that Scandallo was one of true exceptions when it came to bringing the energy. It was full and well attended with girls of all types, even on a Monday (but the branca count was down). The other thing I will tell you is don't skip Casarao! It was also packed late everytime I went with more hot white girls than Scandallo last trip and much, much better pricing! No, it's not as nice as Scandallo. After all, Scandallo is the baddest puta palace on the planet! But it meets minimum standards, throws off a more casual vibe, is more affordable, and had lots of brancas that interested me last time (again more than Scandallo). I hooked up with and fucked a few. My number 1 type is blonde hair, pale skin with some pink in it, pretty face, any color eyes but blue is nice, narrow hips with a flat tummy, and a round bubble butt. Casarao had this. You send those "pasty white girls" to me Steve you hear, especially if they do anal! LOLOLOL!
So look man. If it's somebody's first time going to Brazil, I always advise that they do both Sampa and Rio if they can. Both are great destinations for mongering and more. But if you can only do one, and if mongering is your aim, then I would say choose Sampa. This is a huge change in my general advice giving, but I finally have to agree with others that Rio has slipped enough that Sampa has now surpassed the Marvelous City for mongering. This is based on my personal preferences, and many, many here will agree. But of course not all. And if you go to Sampa? Yes you must go to Scandallo! But don't skip out on Casarao either as a viable second option. And if you can expand it some, you should hit other boates as well. For example, I had sessions (including some with anal) with attractive brancas at other clubs like Bomboa and Gaugin. Good luck, and write us a report!
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Thanks for all your info, looks like your inbox is full
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3012682]Yes I am biased towards Latinas and morena color girls but I try my best to be objective on this forum knowing tastes are not the same.
That said, Scandallo absolutely slays Sharks. There are more hot girls per square meter than any other place I know of. And yes I've been to Sharks recently. True it's prob 80% more brunettes and such, but def 10-20% blonds or red heads or more fair skinned types. That doesn't sound like a lot but at the number of girls there it's plenty. And don't discount the environment either. Its nothing like FKK and girls instantly wanting to bag you and take you to the room. If you find someone I like invite her to drink with you. Don't waste her time but no problem spending a half hour or more just drinking dancing and making out. And yes you should absolutely make out with your girl right there in the club. It's Brazil.
Do yourself a favor and get a bottle and a table if $$ is not an issue. King of the world. Invite a girl or two to share your bottle and mixers. Listen to the band. Make out. Dance. Then go to the room. It's really a once in a lifetime experience and absolutely slays Sharks IMO.[/QUOTE].
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White girls, brancas, blaquitas
The Cane;3012693]I'm into the "brancas" or white girls just like you.
Great read, and I agree. Its been about 4 years since my last trip to Brazil, as I now live in Medellin, but I am hoping to get back to Brazil this year for a return trip.
Brazil offers a great diversity of looks and types of girls to satisfy the preferences of everyone, and I still dream of a brazilian redhead lookalike to pornstar RedFox, that I found in Scandello that fuels my desire to return to Sao Paolo. Had a redhead here in medellin about 5 years ago too, who disappeared, but the hunt for fresh new girls makes the hobby exciting.
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Ruivas
[QUOTE=MaxLee88;3012806]The Cane;3012693]Great read, and I agree. Its been about 4 years since my last trip to Brazil, as I now live in Medellin, but I am hoping to get back to Brazil this year for a return trip. Brazil offers a great diversity of looks and types of girls to satisfy the preferences of everyone, and I still dream of a brazilian redhead lookalike to pornstar RedFox, that I found in Scandello that fuels my desire to return to Sao Paolo. Had a redhead here in medellin about 5 years ago too, who disappeared, but the hunt for fresh new girls makes the hobby exciting.[/QUOTE]I've had my share of attractive Brazilian "ruivas" or redheads too! Posted some photos over the years in the picture thread as evidence.
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Thanks for the info, some more questions
[QUOTE=TheCane;3012693]
Now all this said, Scandallo and Brazil are absolutely worth it!
But don't skip out on Casarao either as a viable second option.
other clubs like Bomboa and Gaugin.
Good luck, and write us a report![/QUOTE]Thanks for the info appreciate your detailed account of Brazil. I was on a civilian trip to Barcelona last year and didn't fuck anything because I looked at the websites of their luxury brothels LaSuite and Felina and decided these brown silicon bimbo, old latina women are not for me. But then I visited Portugal and actually liked what I fucked, some really good looking, young, branca, slim, college type garotas (Gabriela Fontes from escortprivada). So then I thought maybe Brazil is for me.
According to my imagination, I'm assuming Termas in Rio look like a run down ghetto FKK like Acapulco Gold. And I'm imagining Casarao to be like those latina strip clubs full of Cuban girls in USA (Chicas Locas Houston).
I'm sorry if I'm being extra cautious because after a few terrible experiences in Thailand, I'm very particular about cleanliness and hygiene especially in third world countries like Brazil. I'd rather miss an amazing experience with a girl instead of being mentally scarred from seeing something awful that I can't unsee. After many mistakes, I've raised the standard to only go into clean incall apartments in Canada or clean FKKs in Germany or cleaner luxury brothels in Australia, New Zealand and other developed countries.
How's the cleanliness and the condition of the club at Casarao? Man if it's anything like those sleazy cuban strip clubs in USA, smell of sweat, mixed with a lot of deodorant and smell of girls vape on top of it creating a strong aroma, full of smoke and smells like sewer, I'd rather just stay at home. I know I'll bring the girl to my hotel from Casarao so I control the sex environment but she needs to be clean, showered, smell nice, otherwise sex would be physically possible.
Casarao is cheaper so what kind of customers at which price point are they targeting? Money isn't an issue and I'm not a budget monger, so I'd like to stay away from places that are meant for those audiences no offense. And I know money doesn't buy quality sex in the mongering world. But I also believe you get what you pay for.
I'll be sure to post a report for my Scandallo trip but I don't think this forum needs it as desperately as the FKK forums LOL because 90% Brazilian Garotas give good service I assume. Unlike FKKSharks reddit, here there isn't a lot of bitching about this girl is bad, that girl gave bad service, this girl cheated on time, this girl promised me multiple shots but left after 1, this girl gave CBJ even after promising BBBJ, that girl didn't kiss me, the room was a disaster LOL.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3012691]former stewardess for Azul Airline. She passed the audition with flying colors.
So yeah, Scandallo has the quality and IMHO is worth every BR.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your opinion. This impresses me and gives an idea about quality at Scandallo, I read some reports around how professors, airhostesses and other every day normal job working girls do part time at Scandallo, someone also mentioned that the club has higher standards of recruitment that was interesting. I guess the money they earn in Scandallo goes quite further that motivates them to continue this job, unlike Germany where only impoverished immigrant Romanians are travelling to work due to the differences in cost of living index and any girl who pays entry fee is allowed to work.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3012682]Its nothing like FKK and girls instantly wanting to bag you and take you to the room.
And yes you should absolutely make out with your girl right there in the club. It's Brazil.
It's really a once in a lifetime experience and absolutely slays Sharks IMO.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your opinion. I am very interested in this prolonged couch experience, unlike FKKs which are like Hi, Hello, we go in the room which sort of creates an environment where girls are just smoking waiting for a guy to pick them up to a room, like a streetwalker.
Ofc I know not to waste their time, not my first rodeo.
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[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3012634]Hello folks, I'm planning a trip to visit Brazil for the first time for the famous Scandallo. Money is not an issue. My expectations are a bit high from all the reviews on Scandallo - 200 girls, Amazing service, model like quality. TBH, I'm not even going to bother visiting other options available in Brazil like Termas in Rio 4 x 4, Centaurus, Clinicas, Casarao etc, I'm just interested in Scandallo. The top most quality place and I'm going to assume everything else is down a notch or like something else I've already seen.[/QUOTE]If you go to Brazil expecting that all your needs are going to be met at Scandallo, then I'm afraid you're likely going to be greatly disappointed. In my view, Scandallo is the best of the best for sure, but it isn't the only good place with all the best talent. Line up quality rises and falls all around the city. The place that was hot last time is not this time. And vice versa. Even Scandallo quality and quantity fluctuates over time. So, you have to get around town and go to other places to make sure you "get your fill". As good as Scandallo can be for us "branca hunters", if you don't cast a wide net then you're going to miss out. You might find your best fuck at Scandallo. But then again, you might find that branca somewhere else too. Don't put all your eggs in one basket lest ye be disappointed! Even if that basket is named "Scandallo". Take it from a seasoned branca hunter who knows. If you're going to travel all that way you may as well see what else is out there. You at least [B]got[/B] to go to Casarao. As always keeping it real!
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[QUOTE=RemotePC;3012711]Thanks for all your info, looks like your inbox is full
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Thanks for the info, some more questions about Casarao
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3012682]True it's prob 80% more brunettes and such, but def 10-20% blonds or red heads or more fair skinned types.
And don't discount the environment either.
Don't waste her time
And yes you should absolutely make out with your girl right there in the club. It's Brazil.
It's really a once in a lifetime experience and absolutely slays Sharks IMO.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your honest opinion, this is helpful. I'm really excited about the environment with extended couch experience, very different from the transactional environment of FKKs where it's like Hi, Hello, we go in the room, later, bye.
Ofc I know not to waste their time, not my first rodeo. Once in a lifetime experience, so definitely excited.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3012691]very attractive, friendly, tall & slender blond who was a former stewardess for Azul Airline.
she gave me BBFS after I went down on her.
how packed Scan had become. It was almost wall to wall girls with a large number of lookers.
So yeah, Scandallo has the quality and IMHO is worth every BR.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your opinion. This is a unique experience where normal professional girls like Professors, Stewardesses etc are working at Scandallo, instead of those typical high mileage hookers in other places. I read that Scandallo has some standards of beauty allowing only cream of the crop to work. In FKK Sharks, any girl who pays the entry fee is allowed to work in the club, and that's the same in many other places because they have trouble recruiting talent who would do a job society frowns upon. FKK globe does enforce a standard of service but not standard of beauty. Scandallo will have high quality of girls I assume. I think because that amount of money in high end places like Scandallo goes a long way for Brazilians, which sort of motivates them. Unlike Germany where local German girls don't work this job but impoverished immigrant Romanians do because it's a lot of money in their country due to cost of living differences.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3012693]I'm into the "brancas" or white girls just like you.
Sure, I found some jewels here and there, including in Curitiba and Florianopolis.
Now all this said, Scandallo and Brazil are absolutely worth it!
And I can honestly say that Scandallo was one of true exceptions when it came to bringing the energy. It was full and well attended with girls of all types,
The other thing I will tell you is don't skip Casarao! It was also packed late everytime I went with more hot white girls than Scandallo last trip and much, much better pricing! No, it's not as nice as Scandallo. After all, Scandallo is the baddest puta palace on the planet! But it meets minimum standards, throws off a more casual vibe, is more affordable, and had lots of brancas
So look man. If it's somebody's first time going to Brazil, I always advise that they do both Sampa and Rio if they can.
But if you can only do one, and if mongering is your aim, then I would say choose Sampa.
Yes you must go to Scandallo! But don't skip out on Casarao either as a viable second option. And if you can expand it some, you should hit other boates as wel
clubs like Bomboa and Gaugin.
Good luck, and write us a report![/QUOTE]Thanks for your detailed account on Brazil. I was on a Civilian trip to Barcelona and didn't fuck anything because when I looked at the websites for their "luxury" brothels. LaSuite and Felina, the girls were ugly, old, brown, silicon tits, bimbo looking latinas and I thought Latin America isn't for me but then I visited Portugal and I liked what I fucked. Cute, young, white, college going type garotas, natural brancas (Gabriela Fontes from escortprivada), and then thought maybe Brazil is for me.
I'm sorry if I'm being extra cautious, I've had some terrible experiences in Thailand with the quality of the place and hence I'm extra cautious with third world countries like Brazil. I've raised my standards to only visiting developed countries like German FKKs, clean incall apartments in Canada or Portugal, clean luxury brothels in Australia and New Zealand.
My FKK friends told me go to Athens, Greece on Filis street they have 10 minutes suck and fuck for 20 EUR, I saw a google street view and it was run down, the girls had a sink for a shower, and they didn't clean in between sessions, and I'm like no that's not for me and instead I booked a well reviewed girl (thanks to ISG) from an escort agency who sent a nice clean girl, wearing a cocktail dress (like she's ready to go to a michelin star restaurant) to my hotel room, and I had a great time.
Different mongers have different tastes so I just wanted to give my background.
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1. How's the club quality / girl quality at Casarao? My imagination is Casarao is like those sleazy Latina strip clubs in USA full of Cuban girls (Chicas Locas Houston) which smell like sweat mixed with a lot of deodorant, with girls vaping and smoke fills the room, smell like Sewer. I know I'd bring girl from Casarao to my hotel whose environment I control but still I need the girl to be clean, showered, smell nice, dress nice otherwise sex is physically impossible.
2. What kind of customers is Casarao targeting and what quality of girls with a cheaper price point? I know money doesn't buy quality sex in the mongering world but I also believe you get what you pay for. But if the club is meant for local Brazilians with a tight budget, I'd rather just skip it. Money is less important for me but more important is that the girl respects her body and mine, touches my body delicately and carefully instead of being rough. Countless number of times in FKKs where I've walked out of the room and paid full price for just 5 minutes when the girl starts pulling on my dick with her lips so hard to make it erect, stretching it out like a rubber band, I stop it instantly because I value my body more that 100 EURs.
I'll be sure to post a report on Scandallo, my FKK friends are also begging for that review, but reading this forum, I feel like you guys need it a lot less that the FKK forums because unlike FKKs I don't see a lot of bitching here like this girl is bad, that girl gives bad service, this girl didn't kiss me, that girl promised BBBJ and gave CBJ, this girl cheated me on time. And mongers building their good service girls list and bad girls avoid list from those reports. I assume 90% of Brazilian Garotas are passionate and enjoy sex and give good service.
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[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3012634]3. Is Scandallo really worth it?[/QUOTE]It probably is in your case because budget is not an issue.
Having said that, I am going to temper your expectation.
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3012634]My expectations are a bit high from all the reviews on Scandallo - 200 girls, Amazing service, model like quality.[/QUOTE]I have gone to Scandallo Tuesday to Friday every night in the same week with the purpose of finding out what is the best night. I counted the number of girls every night, multiple times. I don't remember the number is even close to 200 when I was there. It's YMMV
You may find some model like quality but it is very limited. It has the hottest girls on average but they don't have the hottest looking girls available night in and night out.
To judge for yourself. Go to browse the club model web site, and just assume the photoshopped photos are not photoshopped. I think the Scandallo girls are not better than what you will see on the site. That should give you an idea.
The reason I am posting this is because I was underwhelmed in my first visit based on the info from ISG. It is safe to say I am not the only one. It is the posts here tend to be one-sided when it comes to Scandallo. I am not trying to refute others, but you need to take what all of us said into consideration before you can experience it in person.
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[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3012634]Hello folks,
I'm planning a trip to visit Brazil for the first time for the famous Scandallo. Money is not an issue.
My expectations are a bit high from all the reviews on Scandallo - 200 girls, Amazing service, model like quality.
1. How's the girl quality / LU in scandallo currently? With FKKs lately the quality is on the decline I'm seeing a lot of ugly typical low quality street walker type hookers. Older, lot of botox in lips, silicon boobs, trashy tattoos, fat, ugly, smokers. Is Scandallo quality level similar or more classy, younger, model looking types?
2. What percent of the girls are Caucasian? I know FKKs are 90% Romanians many of them darker typically Gypsy looking. I don't want to go to Scandallo just to find out it's another FKK with majority of the girls are not my type. And I'm stuck with chasing 1 popular girl that everyone else is crowding. I need quality and quantity.
3. Is Scandallo really worth it?[/QUOTE]I'll add my 2-3 cents.
1. I think it's still the best that you'll find in the Americas, with the best nights being Tuesday to Thursday. Look on the site to see if there's a live band as those tend to be the busiest nights. Those nights might have 200+ girls and 100+ guys at 12am. Alternatively I've been there on Fridays or Saturdays when there were only 60-75 girls and 50 guys. Also read the reports from SocratesNYC. I do see more naturally beautiful girls there, although many have enhanced breasts (fine by me, I just don't like extensive face work).
2. It depends a bit on how you define 'Caucasian,' but probably 50-75% and 10-15% blondes overall. Sao Paulo has many fewer mulattas than Sao Paulo or further north. It's mostly Italian and Portuguese looking with a bit of mixed indigenous blood. Very, very few natural blondes. You need to go south for that. That noted, I was at Abbobora Clinica on Saturday around 6 pm and 4 of the 10 girls in the line up were tall blondes. Must have come up from Rio Grande do Sur.
3. Yes, definitely worth it at lease a couple times and based on the way you describe yourself. If money is not an issue then it's the most convenient place to go and there are usually plenty of girls to go around as the local Brazilian men do a lot of 'shopping,' and little 'buying.' I only suggest that you take care if you do LT / overnight, especially if first time with the girl. The hotter girls will often want 2500, and then you have 400 exit plus if she got drinks on her card earlier. It can easily be 3000 r. Then then you don't know if there will be issues at the hotel or if she'll cut out early. Better to do inhouse upstairs I think. But that's just personal preference.
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Additional
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3012939]Thanks for your detailed account on Brazil. I thought Latin America isn't for me but then I visited Portugal and I liked what I fucked. Cute, young, white, college going type garotas, natural brancas (Gabriela Fontes from escortprivada), and then thought maybe Brazil is for me. I'm sorry if I'm being extra cautious, I've had some terrible experiences in Thailand with the quality of the place and hence I'm extra cautious with third world countries like Brazil. I've raised my standards to only visiting developed countries like German FKKs, clean incall apartments in Canada or Portugal, clean luxury brothels in Australia and New Zealand. About Casarao. how's the club quality / girl quality at Casarao? What kind of customers is Casarao targeting and what quality of girls with a cheaper price point? I know money doesn't buy quality sex in the mongering world but I also believe you get what you pay for. But if the club is meant for local Brazilians with a tight budget, I'd rather just skip it.[/QUOTE]No problem, your questions seemed informed, but I think you're drawing some incorrect conclusions. By the way, what you wrote about Portugal is encouraging to me as I have decided to visit both that country and Brazil next year. It will be an excellent chance for me to put my new Portuguese language skills to use as well as monger. I'm coming along well working with my private tutor. I don't know how much I will actually monger in Portugal though since the action there seems to primarily spin around escorts versus a club scene, and I strongly prefer the latter. Can you recommend any top-notch escort agencies in Portugal (if so please post in the Portugal threads)? And then in 2027, I'm looking at Australia and New Zealand. I have asked some questions in the threads for those two destinations, and I would appreciate it if you can check those out and return the favor.
But getting back to Brazil, let me say this. First, I'm also not a budget monger. I fly in premium cabins, stay in 3 to 4 star hotels, and have an extremely large amount of cash on hand for every trip. I say this so that you know you're hearing it from a guy like the one you say you are. And second, I don't like to have sex in dirty, stinky, rundown environs either. If Casarao was that kind of place, then I would neither go there nor recommend it to anybody else. I said that it met my "minimum" standards, meaning that it could be better, but it's far from being a no-go zone. I would say that the target clientele is probably towards middle to lower middle class, whereas Scandallo is def upper middle to upper class. The place in Brazil I have been that was def lower class for people in a tight pinch for pussy was Vila Mimosa in Rio. Dirty, stinky smell of the sewer with lots of fat ass uglies (and some drugged out skinnies too). I went to VM just to say I had finally done it. Never again! Now, Casarao is [B]nothing[/B] like that. Not even close!
So again, I'll bluntly tell you. If you get down there and only go to Scandallo, then you're going to be making a huge, huge mistake for all the reasons already mentioned. Go to Casarao. Do a session and check out the state of a room to get an idea. Or, if you just don't want to do that, then at least go and pick a girl and take her back to your hotel. Live a little bro! My contacts list is [B]full[/B] of brancas I have met at clubs all over Brazil. Far more than I ever pulled from Scandallo when you add it all up. And they're all waiting to be my "branquita" upon my return to Brazil. Don't blow it by sticking only to Scandallo! I'm telling you. You've been warned bro. Don't do it!
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Alright alright I'll go to Casarao
[QUOTE=TheCane;3012990]Can you recommend any top-notch escort agencies in Portugal (if so please post in the Portugal threads)? And then in 2027, I'm looking at Australia and New Zealand. I have asked some questions in the threads for those two destinations, and I would appreciate it if you can check those out and return the favor.
If you get down there and only go to Scandallo, then you're going to be making a huge, huge mistake for all the reasons already mentioned. Go to Casarao. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I created a couple of reports in Lisbon, Portugal thread and New Zealand thread so as to not derail the conversation from Brazil here.
I'll def checkout Casarao, thanks for describing the quality of the club and LU.
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Be quick, early or fast
Sorry, my brothers, ya got to be quick and early next time. !
Saw you guys get out of the taxi across from the clinic. I entered first. Already scheduled two Morena gaoritas in advance. Wassap. The two hottest, sexiest morena garotas in the Sunday afternoon clinca.
I was drinking whiskey in front of the receptionist. Known her and the staff for a few years.
For some reason, the two morena garotas I scheduled were included in the presentation lineup even though I was standing there waiting for them both. 🤷127997;8205;9794;65039;Of course why'all selected them too from the lineup. Only to hear from reception they ain't available for two hours. Your faces were crestfallen like, wtf why present garotas not available to the session now.
Brazilian Clinica logic🤷127997;8205;9794;65039; .
Anyhow I had fun with both for the next hour and a half, hope your brothers found other Garotas and didn't wait around for an hour or two.
In clinicas whichever garota fotos you like in the lineup other bros like them too, move quick and early on Sundays.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;3012990]
So again, I'll bluntly tell you. If you get down there and only go to Scandallo, then you're going to be making a huge, huge mistake for all the reasons already mentioned. Go to Casarao. Do a session and check out the state of a room to get an idea. Or, if you just don't want to do that, then at least go and pick a girl and take her back to your hotel. Live a little bro! My contacts list is [B]full[/B] of brancas I have met at clubs all over Brazil. Far more than I ever pulled from Scandallo when you add it all up. And they're all waiting to be my "branquita" upon my return to Brazil. Don't blow it by sticking only to Scandallo! I'm telling you. You've been warned bro. Don't do it![/QUOTE]I am going to SP for couple of weeks in the beginning of Aug and wondering, is there some place with the middle in price and quality between Scandallo and Casarao?
I heard something about Bomboa, but it was just briefly mentioned.
Also, I do not find any info on striptease clubs in SP. With lap dances, etc. I saw, so called "striptease" in Casarao once, but it was not a real striptease, just some strange show.
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[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3012939]I read that Scandallo has some standards of beauty allowing only cream of the crop to work. [/QUOTE]I think it is more like dress code, more clean up. There are all types, some are below average in raw appearance. The qualification required to become certain profession are much lower In South America so many titles don't mean anything. I doubt you would find professor who teach in University there but you can find college students there.
You have to ask the girl about the service at Casarao, otherwise you are likely to end up with everything covered. Search for Blakman's posts about Casarao. You have to value reports based on how your personality or interest align with the ones who wrote the reports. Some like these clubs and some don't.
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It's a Relative Thing
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3013041]Thanks for the info. I created a couple of reports in Lisbon, Portugal thread and New Zealand thread so as to not derail the conversation from Brazil here.
I'll def checkout Casarao, thanks for describing the quality of the club and LU.[/QUOTE]Yes factual more consistent quality garotas at Scandallo. That and the luxe atmosphere are why guys go. That said, as others pointed out Casarao is no dive. Yes, there is a much greater mix of fatter or less desirable chicks but you can definitely find a gem there. It's a nice clean club like any nice bar one might go to. I have never failed to pull there. I even once pulled a TEN — only second ever lifetime. So it's def worth mining for gems!
It doesn't start till 12 earliest so my approach is go to scandallo from 7-12. Fuck one hottie there. Absorb the vibe and show. Bop to Casarao at 12 or 1 and find that gem. Pack it in at four or so. Rinse repeat.
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The Branca Hunter
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3013041]Thanks for the info. I'll def checkout Casarao, thanks for describing the quality of the club and LU.[/QUOTE]I don't know how much time you will have, but since it will be your first visit, I recommend that you try as many clubs as you possibly can. Not just Scandallo and Casarao. You will get the best feel for the "night league" that way, and you will have a chance to discover the most brancas working in the top clubs around Sao Paulo. This is how I do. The Cane. [B]The Branca Hunter[/B]. I've been all over Brazil looking for and fucking attractive brancas. Rio, Sampa, Porto, Curitiba, and Floripa. And I'm not finished yet! Yes sir!
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A longer stay meant more experiences!!
This is a bit of a long read and I hope you enjoy it. Again, there is no right or wrong way to monger. We each have our likes and dislikes. We read and we don't judge😜.
A few ISG friends and I had planned this trip in January so we could spend some time together in Rio and SP for approx 12-15 days. Flights and hotels were booked so we would be at the same hotel and take the same flight from Rio to SP. Our stay was at the Grand Hyatt and we had booked four rooms. This trip was going to be great and great it was. We covered all the normal stuff that everyone on this forum usually covers and I tried some new things for me which I will summarize.
I have been trying to set small challenges for myself since just getting one girl or two just doesn't seem to be so exciting. This trip I decided that I would use my regular girl who works at Scandello to help me complete what I call the "Skittles" harem challenge. Like a pack of skittles, I would have a blonde, a redhead, and / or a brunette / black hair in my harem that would allow BBFSCIP with all of them and of course allow going back and forth between them. I didn't let her know about it and figured I would try to find random girls at Scandello to see if I could pull this off just something to keep the nights interesting.
We stayed in the Grand Hyatt and the picture below of the "skittles" is from the same room as my last write up from January. The presidential suite was to be used as the main party room and we had stocked it up with alcohol, mixers and the such.
Our first night was on a Tuesday and after dinner at the two Michelin star restaurant Tuju, we made our way to Scandello. We had called our waiter we knew earlier and reserved a booth for us. Met my girl from the last time and told her about my challenge. She looked at me with a wicked smile and was like FUCK YES and the hunt was on.
She bought some of her friends over that she knew in the club and things didn't click with me. Plus, I am vary of girls bringing their friends over because they are comfortable with each other and then they get lazy. I continued walking around to check out what was available. It was pretty packed as the night went on and we all kept drinking and smoking weed vapes in the club.
On another round thru the club, I saw a girl with bright pink hair and she was a cutie. She had a simple look but she looked like she would be fun. So I pointed her out to my girl and she went to go talk to her. Bought her back to the sofa and we talked for a bit. She was down for everything and she liked to have a good time. When I explained to her my challenge, she laughed and told me she had roommates. She went to get them and we all sat around and talked. All her roommates are bi and were all good to go. I told her the first night would be just the three of us and the upcoming nights I would take her roommates also. With everything settled, the partying continued and my friends were getting their girls closed up and we went back to the hotel to keep the party going.
Back in the room, the alcohol flowed and we all drank and smoked weed. Soon enough, the guys were taking their girls to their rooms and it was time to get the fun going for my threesome. After showering together, the three of us got into bed and the girls started exploring each other with me just hopping in and out. Kissing, sucking on nipples and eating them out. Ultimately, the new girl wanted my dick and hopped on while the other girl made out with me and gave me her pussy. After a bit, we switched and the new girl sat on my face while the other rode me. I wanted to finish in then new girl, so we switched and I ended up finishing in the new girl. Cleaned up and we got ready to sleep. Since I slept next to main girl, she woke me up in the morning with a BJ and the new girl also hopped over and got in on the action till I finished in my regular girl. I knew I had made the right choice with this new girl.
The next day was back in Scandello and I got to know her friends a bit better. The brunette was quiet but she kept looking at me with "fuck me" eyes and I was sure she would be a freak in bed and she sure was. Another evening of drinking and partying and back to the party room leads to a late night session of having four girls in the same bed and pussy juice everywhere. The best part was the "fuck me" girl who wanted me to fuck her rough and cum in her which I did happily. She is definitely going to be a repeat on my next trip to So Paulo. My skittles challenge was complete. See pic attached below.
We did Scandello three nights in the first week and three nights in the second week. It was packed almost all the nights and the selection was superb.
Note — we did have an issue with a girl from Scandello one night chose by a friend. She was demanding and entitled in the club but my friend was enamored so he accepted it. In the room, she was a total shitshow and the next day we told one of the waiters who we know very well. He told us to send her name that she uses, a message explaining the problems and a picture of her or IG link. Since we had the IG link, he was able to send the message to the manager and within a few hours she was blocked. According to other girls who know of her, she picks gringos because she can speak English and probably does this to them since they won't complain to management. To all mongers, if you have an issue with a girl in your hotel room, make sure you get a picture of her so you can complain to management. We didn't ask for any compensation but I think they will refund your money if you use the rooms in house.
We also did Ganguin on a Monday night and I hooked up with a super hot model quality girl but her sex was terrible. Just not enough experience and it was cheaper than Scandello for an overnight even though she didn't know what to do. 80 are entry and 1300 for the girl overnight with Uber.
I went to Bomboa once during lunchtime for their lunch special since it was close to the hotel. The girls were all older women on the fuller side. The club was small and I doubt I would return again. I don't remember the cost to get in and what I paid at the end. I did talk to one girl who was tall and skinny and she was asking Scandello price for the hour 1500 to which I said no thanks.
I did try a clinica run this time and found someone at Aborra (spelled wrong?) but the whole thing was too robotic. I don't like clinicas and the robotic part of it is the reason. We walked to all of them and the girl choice was slim at all the other ones except at the one I sessioned at. Scandello quality no. Can you find someone who is pretty cute? Sure. But the automatic feeling is what keeps me away.
I also met Chicago85 and Lalabo this trip and we all hung out at Scandello together one night. This trip was a great fucking time.
After the trip, I went for a weekend to BA and it was a total shitshow. Mongering was terrible and we should be super glad that we have So Paulo for these experiences.
Counting down the days till my next trip in September.
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[QUOTE=LoveStallion;3010459]Thank you bros for all the information on this thread. Special thanks to Tochka and Knowledge for tips on Sunday options.
I arrived on a Sunday afternoon and went to check out Yankin. There I had a great time with 21-year old Bruna. A sumptuous start for my week here! I contemplated going to Casarao in the night but had work meetings in the morning next day. I am not really a club / bar kind of a guy and based on my first SP clinica experience I wanted to try more.
Over the course of the week I found opportunities to sneak out (travelling here with co-workers) to visit Red Massagem and Tangara and had delightful experiences with various body types and colors. Nevertheless Yankin was my favorite. Less fuss, less crowded.
I missed out on going to Casarao and Scandallo. Perhaps someday I will be back for it. I do appreciate how girls are dressed at these clinicas for the presentation (revealing, sometimes next to nothing). I found in the clubs in Dubai all the makeup and fancy dresses can hide some underwhelming goods underneath.
While this was not the biggest motivator, it was a pleasant surprise that after I totaled what I paid for the 5 visits to clinicas with these beautiful girls, it was about the same as one AMP visit in the USA!
Stay thirty bros![/QUOTE]Can you help me? Will be in sao paulo in September mostly at the wold trade center area, but would love to go to many clinicas as I could.
Would you please tell me the prices? The best? Any of these places nearby? I am a bit resistant of going far since I'm travelling alone and crime scares me a bit.
Thank you.
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[QUOTE=MexiMonger;3013297]Can you help me? Will be in sao paulo in September mostly at the wold trade center area, but would love to go to many clinicas as I could.
Would you please tell me the prices? The best? Any of these places nearby? I am a bit resistant of going far since I'm travelling alone and crime scares me a bit.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]Please read the forum (RTFF). Either search for SocratesNYC's posts or go back 10-15 pages and read from there to here. The 'best' depends on a number of things including your willingness to pay, what type of girls you like, etc. Also, many of these are on Google Maps, just look up adult entertainment or erotic massage.
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Sao Paulo (June 24 - July 7)
I normally split my trips between SP (3-4 days) and Rio (7-8), but figured that I'd give SP my full attention this time around. I'm perhaps a little unique in that I don't have a set mongering style and enjoy a bit of everything (I. E. Clubs, clinicas, mobile apps, Seeking). I speak conversational Portuguese and that helped a lot with the garotas.
I arrived on a Tuesday, stayed at the WTC Sheraton, and went to Gauguin (literally half a block) that night. It's like a small version of Scandallo, and of note I saw a few girls there that I saw at Scandallo later. I did the 290 r entry, of which I think 150 r was consumption. ST in house was 800-1000 for most girls, plus room which is 200 if memory serves. I ended up negotiating 1200 LT until 'mid morning' with a girl at 12 am. And this is where some trouble starts. We get back, do two rounds and go to bed. She wakes me up at 6 am, says it's 'mid-morning' and tells me that I owe her 2500 or she'll call the cops. I show her screenshots of our convo and say go ahead. She frowns and leaves without further issue. Of note, I've had issues with the 3 Gauguin girls I've done overnight so I suggest doing it in house. It may be me, but I think they like to take advantage of gringos (we're very common in area given proximity to business and WTC).
The next two nights I spent at Scandallo with Annagie and SocratesNY. Big shout out to them for how welcoming they were as well as a couple other lesser known ISGers that I met. Overall good times at Scandallo. The first night I arrived after 7 pm and they had a band, I believe I paid 800 r (more for band nights), of which 500 r was consumption. There were easily 200+ girls and maybe 100 guys. I had a bit of analysis paralysis, but eventually settled down and started negotiations. Me being myself, I only went for the classic blonde beauties and none would go lower than 1500 for ST. I got a few numbers, but pride took over and I went home empty handed that night (stuck to 1200 ceiling). The next night I arrived before 7 pm, which is 300 r (as I recall) all consumable. Of note, I had bought a bottle the prior night ( 780 r) and they retried it for me). I continued to party with the others and found a nice light mulatta for which I agreed 2500 r all night, all holes (she offered LOL). Her exit fee was an additional 400 r. I ran into a little issue at the exit as she at first wanted me to pay her upfront at Scandallo via CC (would be 2750), I of course wanted to pay via cash afterwards (10% less). This became a bigger issue in the apartment as she insisted that I pay her upfront and wouldn't even agree to 1/2 before and 1/2 after. Started crying and everything (of note, I've never had a prepago cry with me and that sucked). We eventually reconcile and have decent sex although it was a serious libido killer. She says she'll make it up to me in the future.
The next couple nights I did a mix of clinica hopping with ISGer WorldJockey (Abboborra had the most talent per my view. 150 r for room and 250 r girl) and Seeking (girls 600-1400 for 3-5 hours) which had some real stunners. I dressed up and did nice dinners with a couple of them which really set them off. Generally speaking I got 2 rounds with each girl and all were BBBJ, covered FS (my preference), and CIM (they just did). I saw 3 of them again and they all were willing to try anal (only kinda worked with 1). The girls apparently take a drug or cocaine in their ass to numb it (or so they told me).
I saw the Scandallo girl that Saturday and we had a nice seafood dinner. We agreed to 1500 all night (1000 her and 500 Scandallo fine for missing the night). She was much better behaved this time and all the holes open.
The remaining time was a mix of new / repeat Seeking girls, a new Tinder girl, a high end clinica (Lotus Lounge for ~800 total, iPad selection, classic hot girls, make a reservation!) And an attempt at PhotoAcompanaes (I do not recommend, classic bait and switch. Girl did not even the same hair color LOL). My style is generally 2 girls a day.
The Seeking girls were probably 65% straight up ST prepagos, 20% soft pull older women trying it out (want gifts, travel), and 15% young and naive girls that think you'll buy them stuff without promise of reciprocal intimacy.
The last weekend I spend some time hitting up Vila Madelena bars with Brazilian friends. Palmeiras was playing Chelsea in the FIFA Club Cub and it was a lively environment. I had several very flirty conversations with 20-something garotas (I'm a younger looking 45) and think I could have had luck if given more time.
For restaurants I went to and recommend Sushi Vaz (Pinheiros), Sushi Nami (Moema / Indianapolis), A Figueira Rubaiya (Steak). For drinks I liked rooftops and L40 (W Hotel rooftop) and Baleia in particular.
Overall a solid trip. I would love to explore civilians and semi-pros more on my next trip as the hottest girls I saw were in my hotel for breakfast, SmartFit, and the rooftop bars. I'm not sure if they'd be receptive, but I do believe I caught several looking my way.
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Thanks for taking the time to write this. It looks like you had a lot of fun. Just today this is the second troubling report of Scandallo and Gauguin girls getting into take out mischief. I guess this is their way of taking advantage of the change in power dynamics once they are in your hotel or apartment. Their success rate is probably not bad if they make enough of a ruckus that business travelers decide it's better to get fleeced than deal with the authorities. I feel like not dealing with that old school bullshit should be part of the value of paying top dollar at the uber boates. After reading these reports I think I'm naive about that. Personally, my biggest problem with the boate scene is I don't like staying up all night and I really don't like having smoke blown up my ass to try to convince me I'm seducing some girl I'm about to pay Scandallo money. When I used to go there with co-workers I could ignore it because we would enjoy having drinks and debriefing the work day before going off with our girls. Nowadays when I go there with a personal friend or fly solo it feels more like a money grab for stuff that is no longer important to me. So I guess the point is the places are much more fun with running buddies and I don't go as often because I fly solo more often these days.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;3013285]This is a bit of a long read and I hope you enjoy it. Again, there is no right or wrong way to monger. We each have our likes and dislikes. We read and we don't judge😜.
A few ISG friends and I had planned this trip in January so we could spend some time together in Rio and SP for approx 12-15 days. Flights and hotels were booked so we would be at the same hotel and take the same flight from Rio to SP. Our stay was at the Grand Hyatt and we had booked four rooms. This trip was going to be great and great it was. We covered all the normal stuff that everyone on this forum usually covers and I tried some new things for me which I will summarize.
I have been trying to set small challenges for myself since just getting one girl or two just doesn't seem to be so exciting. This trip I decided that I would use my regular girl who works at Scandello to help me complete what I call the "Skittles" harem challenge. Like a pack of skittles, I would have a blonde, a redhead, and / or a brunette / black hair in my harem that would allow BBFSCIP with all of them and of course allow going back and forth between them. I didn't let her know about it and figured I would try to find random girls at Scandello to see if I could pull this off just something to keep the nights interesting.
We stayed in the Grand Hyatt and the picture below of the "skittles" is from the same room as my last write up from January. The presidential suite was to be used as the main party room and we had stocked it up with alcohol, mixers and the such..[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Knowledge;3013364]Thanks for taking the time to write this. It looks like you had a lot of fun. Just today this is the second troubling report of Scandallo and Gauguin girls getting into take out mischief. I guess this is their way of taking advantage of the change in power dynamics once they are in your hotel or apartment. Their success rate is probably not bad if they make enough of a ruckus that business travelers decide it's better to get fleeced than deal with the authorities. I feel like not dealing with that old school bullshit should be part of the value of paying top dollar at the uber boates. After reading these reports I think I'm naive about that. Personally, my biggest problem with the boate scene is I don't like staying up all night and I really don't like having smoke blown up my ass to try to convince me I'm seducing some girl I'm about to pay Scandallo money. When I used to go there with co-workers I could ignore it because we would enjoy having drinks and debriefing the work day before going off with our girls. Nowadays when I go there with a personal friend or fly solo it feels more like a money grab for stuff that is no longer important to me. So I guess the point is the places are much more fun with running buddies and I don't go as often because I fly solo more often these days.[/QUOTE]I haven't had issues with girls trying to run some scam on me from these places. The girl from Ganguin I think was just genuinely terrible at sex but she is drop dead gorgeous. She might be new to the game and doesn't have the experience. I was telling my friends that she would be an amazing girl to have on your arm as eye candy but she would need some help in the bedroom. I just wasn't in the mood to do the coaching but she was definitely trying to do a good job. She didn’t ask for payment upfront or create a scene or even ask or more money at the end.
I agree that buyers shouldn't have to deal with bullshit from those places but there are always some bad apples just as you expect in clinicas or termas or any other place. It is down to the buyer to spot red flags and walk away. Very rarely have I gotten red flags from girls at Scan but when I do, I immediately lose interest and they move on.
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Abbobora, young Loria brancas
Visited Abbobora; it was the receptionist's birthday. They made the introductions presentations. First up was Sasha, a tall, sexy blonde who had just turned 20. No kids. She is top shelf pre-SCANDALLO garota before going the scandallo route. Natural booobs. . I quickly told the receptionist he wanted her first. I made sure to get her before other mofos came looking for sexy young talent.
Damn, had to double-check cute hair, blonde top and blonde bottom, blue eyes, and pretty face weren't Ukrainian or Russian. And not fake blonde. From the salon.
I invited her and another girl for a double session. Young, athletic blondes are fun once in a while.
We had an hour-long session.
Incredible performance in bed. Sport fcking lots of energy.
Repeat.
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Odd process
[QUOTE=Tochka;3013646]Visited Abbobora; it was the receptionist's birthday. They made the introductions and presentations. First up was Sasha, a tall, sexy blonde who had just turned 20. No kids. She is top-shelf pre-SCANDALLO garota before going the scandallo route. Natural booobs. I quickly told the receptionist he wanted her first. I made sure to get her before other mofos came looking for sexy young talent.
Damn, had to double-check cute hair, blonde top and blonde bottom, blue eyes, and pretty face weren't Ukrainian or Russian. And not fake blonde. From the salon.
I invited her and another girl for a double session. Young, athletic blondes are fun once in a while.
We had an hour-long session.
Incredible performance in bed. Sport fcking lots of energy.
Repeat.[/QUOTE]One odd process. I went to the hotel room next door to Abbobara pay for the room & the girls. After paying the forista rate via credit card.
The receptionist gave me $250 reais in cash to give each garota. She placed $500 brl on the counter in cash, $250 in each stack with the expectation.
For me To give the dinheiro directly to each garota in the room. Hmm I don't remember this paying garota directly using dinheiro from receptionist.
Well of course I got their Wassap to meet up later and cut out the middleman and overhead.
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Scandallo increased its entry price by 100 reais? That's pretty much bullshit. Sure $20 USD isn't going to bankrupt any of us but at the same time they're fucking increasing these prices rapidly. Just from 2021 to now this must be at least their 3rd or 4th price increase.
Wonder if the entry fee for the working girls is also increased as well.
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[QUOTE=Chicago85;3013301]
The next two nights I spent at Scandallo with Annagie and SocratesNY. Big shout out to them for how welcoming they were as well as a couple other lesser known ISGers that I met. Overall good times at Scandallo. The first night I arrived after 7 pm and they had a band, I believe I paid 800 r (more for band nights), of which 500 r was consumption. There were easily 200+ girls and maybe 100 guys. I had a bit of analysis paralysis, but eventually settled down and started negotiations. Me being myself, I only went for the classic blonde beauties and none would go lower than 1500 for ST. I got a few numbers, but pride took over and I went home empty handed that night (stuck to 1200 ceiling). The next night I arrived before 7 pm, which is 300 r (as I recall) all consumable. Of note, I had bought a bottle the prior night ( 780 r) and they retried it for me). I continued to party with the others and found a nice light mulatta for which I agreed 2500 r all night, all holes (she offered LOL). Her exit fee was an additional 400 r. I ran into a little issue at the exit as she at first wanted me to pay her upfront at Scandallo via CC (would be 2750), I of course wanted to pay via cash afterwards (10% less). This became a bigger issue in the apartment as she insisted that I pay her upfront and wouldn't even agree to 1/2 before and 1/2 after. Started crying and everything (of note, I've never had a prepago cry with me and that sucked). We eventually reconcile and have decent sex although it was a serious libido killer. She says she'll make it up to me in the future.
[/QUOTE]It was nice meeting you. I was one of those lesser known ISGers 😉.
Event days usually are very crowded and with expensive entry, so I tend to avoid those days unless I am meeting friends.
Your pre-payment story reminds me of my recent experience with Scan girl Tatiyana during my trip end of May.
None of the Scan girls asked me for prepayment except Tatiyana. The only question every other girl I took out from Scan or the person settled the bill asked me was 'How I would pay the girl? 'dinero' was always my response and that usually was the end of the conversation about the topic. I am always prepared to cancel the takeout if the girl insists on pre-payment. Tatiyana asked for prepayment while the bill was being settled. I told the person settling the bill that I would pay in cash when she leaves next morning at the agreed upon time and I would cancel the takeout if she insists of prepayment. Tatiyana quickly agreed to receive payment after, and we went off to my hotel in Moema.
The moment we walk into my hotel she asked for payment. I reminded her that she agreed for payment afterwards and she could leave if she insists of pre-payment. She asked me if I really want her to leave. I replied yes. She asks me 2 more times with a sad face. I told her that I would give her are $500 before and rest after for which she agreed with big smile. I don't get it, this prepayment insisting hoes get a kick out of getting some payment, I guess. Everything went well after that, but I don't think I am interested in seeing her again based on her behavior.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;3013301]I've had issues with the 3 Gauguin girls I've done overnight so I suggest doing it in house. It may be me, but I think they like to take advantage of gringos (we're very common in area given proximity to business and WTC).
[/QUOTE]Looks like Gauguin is full of scammers. I am guessing the Gauguin management don't give a shit about customers being scammed by the girls work there. This sort of shenanigans wouldn't fly at Scan and that is why the most girls there don't pull this kind of shit. Gauguin is on my list of places to visit, but I am reconsidering after reading your experience.
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[QUOTE=Trojan22;3013688]Scandallo increased its entry price by 100 reais? That's pretty much bullshit. Sure $20 USD isn't going to bankrupt any of us but at the same time they're fucking increasing these prices rapidly. Just from 2021 to now this must be at least their 3rd or 4th price increase.
[/QUOTE]Yes, the entry fee has been increased to are $400 from last week of June, which is all consumable, if you arrive before 7 pm and are $200 if you arrive after 7 pm.
Exit fee is now $400 and the room fee is now $350 (increased by are $50. I was told).
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Wonder if the entry fee for the working girls is also increased as well.[/QUOTE]Probably. Most girls avoid paying that fee by working 5 days a week.
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[QUOTE=Lalabo;3013693]Yes, the entry fee has been increased to are $400 from last week of June, which is all consumable, if you arrive before 7 pm and are $200 if you arrive after 7 pm.
Exit fee is now $400 and the room fee is now $350 (increased by are $50. I was told).
Probably. Most girls avoid paying that fee by working 5 days a week.[/QUOTE]The entry fee is now 600 reais with 400 reais consumable if you arrive after 7 pm. So that's basically $110 USD cover. Granted sure you can have your dinner and drinks with the 400 consumable and all but still.
And wow the room fee was 250 reais the last time I session'd at Scandallo which hasn't been more than a year away. And the room fee and exit fee used to be the same amount, I thought that was the whole point of it.
I think the greed of the owners will eventually lead to the demise of this otherwise great establishment. Hopefully some other boate takes advantage and offers more fair entry pricing and room / exit fee and such. I'll deal with the expensive drink prices and expensive food prices (which is so pricey that you can easily surpass the consumable after buying just a very few drinks for chicks) but them raising the entry fee and exit fee and all like this is just crazy to me. $110 usd is the price of a session with a high caliber chica in many places around the world (Colombia, Mexico etc). I prefer Brazil but still. Hell that's basically 3 sessions at a clinica in Moema. I wonder if we will see 1000 reais entry fee at Scandallo in maybe 2-3 years.
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NFL and F1 season
[QUOTE=Trojan22;3013704]The entry fee is now 600 reais with 400 reais consumable if you arrive after 7 pm. So that's basically $110 USD cover. Granted sure you can have your dinner and drinks with the 400 consumable and all but still.
And wow the room fee was 250 reais the last time I session'd at Scandallo which hasn't been more than a year away. And the room fee and exit fee used to be the same amount, I thought that was the whole point of it.
I think the greed of the owners will eventually lead to the demise of this otherwise great establishment. Hopefully some other boate takes advantage and offers more fair entry pricing and room / exit fee and such. I'll deal with the expensive drink prices and expensive food prices (which is so pricey that you can easily surpass the consumable after buying just a very few drinks for chicks) but them raising the entry fee and exit fee and all like this is just crazy to me. $110 usd is the price of a session with a high caliber chica in many places around the world (Colombia, Mexico etc). I prefer Brazil but still. Hell that's basically 3 sessions at a clinica in Moema. I wonder if we will see 1000 reais entry fee at Scandallo in maybe 2-3 years.[/QUOTE]If last year's NFL and F1 season at Scandallo is any indication expect prices to jump. Bros coming to São Paulo first time, no porto, English only, were agreeing to 3 mil & 4 mil an hour session. They were losing their fvcking minds as garotas from all over Brasil came in for NFL and F1 week. Shit Scandallo opened on Sunday to accommodate the rain of money from bros that didn't know or care about 3 mil 4 mil one hour session with the hottest garotas flooding in from the entire country trying to get a baller.
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[QUOTE=Trojan22;3013704]The entry fee is now 600 reais with 400 reais consumable if you arrive after 7 pm. So that's basically $110 USD cover. Granted sure you can have your dinner and drinks with the 400 consumable and all but still.
And wow the room fee was 250 reais the last time I session'd at Scandallo which hasn't been more than a year away. And the room fee and exit fee used to be the same amount, I thought that was the whole point of it.
I think the greed of the owners will eventually lead to the demise of this otherwise great establishment. Hopefully some other boate takes advantage and offers more fair entry pricing and room / exit fee and such. I'll deal with the expensive drink prices and expensive food prices (which is so pricey that you can easily surpass the consumable after buying just a very few drinks for chicks) but them raising the entry fee and exit fee and all like this is just crazy to me. $110 usd is the price of a session with a high caliber chica in many places around the world (Colombia, Mexico etc). I prefer Brazil but still. Hell that's basically 3 sessions at a clinica in Moema. I wonder if we will see 1000 reais entry fee at Scandallo in maybe 2-3 years.[/QUOTE]That's my biggest gripe with the popular clubs (not just in Brazil): the prices keep going up every year while the quality doesn't. If you're new to a city, it's worth a visit once, but you can find better and cheaper options elsewhere.
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[QUOTE=Tochka;3013718]If last year's NFL and F1 season at Scandallo is any indication expect prices to jump. Bros coming to So Paulo first time, no porto, English only, were agreeing to 3 mil & 4 mil an hour session. They were losing their fvcking minds as garotas from all over Brasil came in for NFL and F1 week. Shit Scandallo opened on Sunday to accommodate the rain of money from bros that didn't know or care about 3 mil 4 mil one hour session with the hottest garotas flooding in from the entire country trying to get a baller.[/QUOTE]There's too many stupid people with money if people were paying 3 and 4 mil an hour for sessions in Brazil. You can get top notch girls in the hobbying scene in LOS Angeles, New York, Miami etc for that price. Why even fly all the way out to Brazil for that? Like I said, there's unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it) too many people with money these days. Perhaps lot of crypto bros that became rich overnight and don't really know what to do with their gains. Unless the ones paying these prices are just all families of NFL players or the players themselves who make $10-20 M / yr doing this, then sure all bets are off.
I know this happens though and that's why I've always avoided F1 week. But now I know that the NFL game week is like that too so will avoid that as well.
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[QUOTE=Trojan22;3013704]The entry fee is now 600 reais with 400 reais consumable if you arrive after 7 pm. So that's basically $110 USD cover. Granted sure you can have your dinner and drinks with the 400 consumable and all but still.
And wow the room fee was 250 reais the last time I session'd at Scandallo which hasn't been more than a year away. And the room fee and exit fee used to be the same amount, I thought that was the whole point of it.
I think the greed of the owners will eventually lead to the demise of this otherwise great establishment. Hopefully some other boate takes advantage and offers more fair entry pricing and room / exit fee and such. I'll deal with the expensive drink prices and expensive food prices (which is so pricey that you can easily surpass the consumable after buying just a very few drinks for chicks) but them raising the entry fee and exit fee and all like this is just crazy to me. $110 usd is the price of a session with a high caliber chica in many places around the world (Colombia, Mexico etc). I prefer Brazil but still. Hell that's basically 3 sessions at a clinica in Moema. I wonder if we will see 1000 reais entry fee at Scandallo in maybe 2-3 years.[/QUOTE]It is definitely getting pricy. Entry for event days might hit that 1 K mark soon, if not already.
The prices Scan girls are asking have steadily gone up and probably will go up further after this entry fee increase. This will increase the number of men that visit the place just to handout with friends, eat, drink and go somewhere else to find pussy. Which translates to more and more Scan girls going empty handed.
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[QUOTE=Lalabo;3013775]It is definitely getting pricy. Entry for event days might hit that 1 K mark soon, if not already.
The prices Scan girls are asking have steadily gone up and probably will go up further after this entry fee increase. This will increase the number of men that visit the place just to handout with friends, eat, drink and go somewhere else to find pussy. Which translates to more and more Scan girls going empty handed.[/QUOTE]The way I see it for about ten years between 2002 and around 2012 I fucked the hottest girls on the planet in German FKKs for EUR 100 per hour so I've been there done that. No need for me to go chasing the hottest girls around now spending hundreds of dollars overseas on a session with girls who are no where near the looks of girls I have banged in the past. From my experience after around 2012 looks of hookers began to decline worldwide.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;3013784]The way I see it for about ten years between 2002 and around 2012 I fucked the hottest girls on the planet in German FKKs for EUR 100 per hour so I've been there done that. No need for me to go chasing the hottest girls around now spending hundreds of dollars overseas on a session with girls who are no where near the looks of girls I have banged in the past. From my experience after around 2012 looks of hookers began to decline worldwide.[/QUOTE]I started visited FKKs in 2012 as it stared declining because lot of German / Duch / Polish / Russian girls complaining about Romanian girls flooding the clubs which kept the price at 50 Euro for a long time and eventually stop working in the clubs. At Goldentime the 1st hour was 75 Euro and the subsequent hours are just 50 Euros. Those were unbelievable prices for amazing service girls provided then. Now German FKKs have become shit with girls demanding 200+ Euros per hour for provide mediocre service. You could upgrade to average service for 100 Euro upcharge 😔.
Like with FKKs, I guess, I caught the tail end of Brazil scene when I started visiting in 2019. Since then, the prices have gone up considerably and the quality of the girls gone down.
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[QUOTE=Lalabo;3013801]I started visited FKKs in 2012 as it stared declining because lot of German / Duch / Polish / Russian girls complaining about Romanian girls flooding the clubs which kept the price at 50 Euro for a long time and eventually stop working in the clubs. At Goldentime the 1st hour was 75 Euro and the subsequent hours are just 50 Euros. Those were unbelievable prices for amazing service girls provided then. Now German FKKs have become shit with girls demanding 200+ Euros per hour for provide mediocre service. You could upgrade to average service for 100 Euro upcharge 😔.
Like with FKKs, I guess, I caught the tail end of Brazil scene when I started visiting in 2019. Since then, the prices have gone up considerably and the quality of the girls gone down.[/QUOTE]I don't think there is a market in the world where the price has not gone up.
Do I wish I could get primo pussy for less than 100 USD? Sure. Did that exist somewhere in the 2010's? Or the 2000's? Maybe in the 90's? Sure.
But complaining about inflation, or geo-economics, sex laws, or onlyfans or whatever scapegoat we want to blame is really fruitless.
The best one can do it keep their ear to the ground. Read these forums. And follow-your nose.
Soa Paulo and the FKK-lands still represent some of the best hunting grounds on the planet.
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Consumable vs Rest
I honestly don't have a big problem with consumable going up. This is just saying don't come in here and not spend money. And since I do spend money it's fine for me. I cant recall exiting Scandallo with less than 1000 R bar tab. And for others it encourages use of the restaurant to eat the consumables. And frankly the food is really good.
But yeah I hope they aren't taxing the garotas. There is a strip club where I live that was bought by Ricks. They raised single song lap dances to $40. Wtf? No one is paying that. We go there often for drinks and ogling but no fucking way I'm taking a girl and I'm a high roller. It's just fucking wrong. So the club makes drink money and the girls starve because no one will buy a dance. Really sucks. Will definitely cause club failure in the next couple years as girls will stay away.
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NFL week
[QUOTE=Trojan22;3013774] There are too many stupid people with money if people were paying 3 and 4 mil an hour for sessions in Brazil. You can get top-notch girls in the hobbying scene in LOS Angeles, New York, Miami, etc for that price. Why even fly all the way out to Brazil for that? Like I said, there are unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it) too many people with money these days. Perhaps a lot of crypto bros who became rich overnight don't know what to do with their gains. Unless the ones paying these prices are just all families of NFL players or the players themselves who make $10-20 M / yr doing this, then sure all bets are off.
I know this happens though and that's why I've always avoided F1 week. But now I know that the NFL game week is like that too so I will avoid that as well.[/QUOTE]Yeah, last year NFL week was everywhere. Ads in CGH airports, boats, bars all looking for those Philly NFL ballers and fans. They figure if you can pay $1 mil brl to $2 mil brl to buy a ticket for an NFL away game, plus airfare, travel 9+ hours to Sao Paulo, BTW watch hotel & Airbnb rates bump up too. Then bros paying $3 mil brl $4 mil brl a session is a reason enough for top of the market Scandallo to raise entry prices, raining money for them. I watched from near the DJ booth upstairs in Scandallo, all the Google Translate deals going on. I just shook my head, bounced after the game was over on the big screen, and hoped like hell the pricing would revert to "normal" the following month.
Its been mentioned before but many guys can be a one time baller for a weekend or week in scandallo.
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American Strip Clubs
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3013807]I honestly don't have a big problem with consumable going up. This is just saying don't come in here and not spend money. And since I do spend money it's fine for me. I cant recall exiting Scandallo with less than 1000 R bar tab. And for others it encourages use of the restaurant to eat the consumables. And frankly the food is really good.
But yeah I hope they aren't taxing the garotas. There is a strip club where I live that was bought by Ricks. They raised single song lap dances to $40. Wtf? No one is paying that. We go there often for drinks and ogling but no fucking way I'm taking a girl and I'm a high roller. It's just fucking wrong. So the club makes drink money and the girls starve because no one will buy a dance. Really sucks. Will definitely cause club failure in the next couple years as girls will stay away.[/QUOTE]They raised it to $40 a dance at least two decades ago in the town I used to live in. So, my question would be WTH took so long? And bozos were paying it too! No telling what it is now. And they don't even play full songs per dance. Like half a song! I just can't bring myself to patronize an American strip club anymore. It's such a rip off where you're not supposed to touch and "PC" girls get ticked off if you pop a boner while they grind on you! What a fucking joke! Have passport. Will travel!
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[QUOTE=Lalabo;3013690]It was nice meeting you. I was one of those lesser known ISGers 😉....
Your pre-payment story reminds me of my recent experience with Scan girl Tatiyana during my trip end of May.
None of the Scan girls asked me for prepayment except Tatiyana.....
The moment we walk into my hotel she asked for payment. I reminded her that she agreed for payment afterwards and she could leave if she insists of pre-payment....
....Looks like Gauguin is full of scammers. I am guessing the Gauguin management don't give a shit about customers being scammed by the girls work there. [/QUOTE]Yes, I should have cancelled at the exit, but she said that she'd been working at Scandallo for 6 months and everyone she'd been with paid by CC prior. It was my first time taking a Scandallo girl LT, but so against my normal procedure that I wasn't sure what to think!
At the apartment she again asked for it upfront and then pulled the crying card stating that she'd been called a lot of things, but wasn't a liar.
I think Gauguin is for the girls that can't hack it at Scandallo or handle it one way or the other. I think you have a good number of girls who are just looking for some quick cash. The bartenders seemed ok, but the front desk gave pretty poor service. They didn't speak any English and refused to slow down their Porto cadence so that I could understand when I asked about a couple items on the bill. They wouldn't do google translate either. It did turn out that all charges were correct during my visits, but was annoying that they wouldn't explain.
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[QUOTE=Trojan22;3013774]There's too many stupid people with money if people were paying 3 and 4 mil an hour for sessions in Brazil. You can get top notch girls in the hobbying scene in LOS Angeles, New York, Miami etc for that price. Why even fly all the way out to Brazil for that? Like I said, there's unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it) too many people with money these days. Perhaps lot of crypto bros that became rich overnight and don't really know what to do with their gains. Unless the ones paying these prices are just all families of NFL players or the players themselves who make $10-20 M / yr doing this, then sure all bets are off.
I know this happens though and that's why I've always avoided F1 week. But now I know that the NFL game week is like that too so will avoid that as well.[/QUOTE]I was at 57 Friends last year during NFL Week and a guy told me that he budgeted $800 / day for the week beyond his accommodation (for food, drinks, girls). He later shared that he was a Costco warehouse worker. No shade on those hard working people, but I was like damn. He can't have that much money and is probably spending all of his savings from the past year in a week!
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;3013807]I honestly don't have a big problem with consumable going up. This is just saying don't come in here and not spend money. And since I do spend money it's fine for me. I cant recall exiting Scandallo with less than 1000 R bar tab. And for others it encourages use of the restaurant to eat the consumables. And frankly the food is really good.
But yeah I hope they aren't taxing the garotas. There is a strip club where I live that was bought by Ricks. They raised single song lap dances to $40. Wtf? No one is paying that. We go there often for drinks and ogling but no fucking way I'm taking a girl and I'm a high roller. It's just fucking wrong. So the club makes drink money and the girls starve because no one will buy a dance. Really sucks. Will definitely cause club failure in the next couple years as girls will stay away.[/QUOTE]Same here. I don't have an issue with the consumable going up since I was going to spend the money anyway. A bottle of gin is 750 are and dinner for myself is close to 300 are and then you have add in the mixers. So easily 1200 without any effort. I don't live in a big city so I don't know how much it costs to go out in NYC / MIA / LA or Las Vegas but I am pretty sure it is pretty similar. This club wants spenders and does its part to attract them. If you aren't a spender, the club doesn't really want people like you. So they price it higher to keep the riff raff out. People in this forum need to understand that we are a very tiny percentage of the clients the club attracts so if we don't go, it doesn't even make a slight dent in the bottom line of the club.
Unfortunately, the girl entry price went up to 400 as did the "saida". Again, I ain't going to * about the 100 are extra and I am pretty sure neither are the regular clients of the club. Just the cost of doing business. If girls don't want to pay the 400, they can work 5 days a week to avoid it. Just like my employee has to work 5 days a week to keep his job. If they have the ability to make more than normal, they can pay the fine. Really makes no difference in my book. I am sure there would be an amount where I would think twice about paying the "saida" and thankfully I haven't reached that yet.
After this past trip, I can now state that the quality and quantity of girls at Scandello just doesn't compare. I usually never hit the other clubs or clinicas since I don't spend too many days in SP but this time I did. Let's stop throwing the bullshit that the girls are of similar quality no they are fucking not. The good thing about SP is that there is something for everyone from the super high class girls who don't even work at Scandello to the skinny crack working girls working the streets at crackolandia. Just figure out where you want to be and do that.
Talking about F1 and NFL, what can you expect when you bring world class events to a city that has serious cash and big players? Of course, prices are going up and people want to earn as much as possible. Nothing wrong in that. I was there last year during NFL weekend and was annoyed that my upgrade didn't clear but the hotel was fully booked so I didn't expect an upgrade. So guess what I did this year. I just moved my reservation back one week for both September and November. Now I don't have to deal with that bullshit and will pay normal rates. Simple. If I wanted to see the game or partake in the activities, then I would just have to pay more. I did that during World Cup in Brazil and would probably never do it again.
We all need to be grateful that we have access to the girls of Brazil especially So Paulo because after a total shitshow of talent in BA, I definitly am grateful for the wonderful country of Brazil!!
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[QUOTE=Chicago85;3013301]
The next two nights I spent at Scandallo with Annagie and SocratesNY. Big shout out to them for how welcoming they were as well as a couple other lesser known ISGers that I met. Overall good times at Scandallo. The first night I arrived after 7 pm and they had a band, I believe I paid 800 r (more for band nights), of which 500 r was consumption. There were easily 200+ girls and maybe 100 guys. I had a bit of analysis paralysis, but eventually settled down and started negotiations. Me being myself, I only went for the classic blonde beauties and none would go lower than 1500 for ST. I got a few numbers, but pride took over and I went home empty handed that night (stuck to 1200 ceiling). The next night I arrived before 7 pm, which is 300 r (as I recall) all consumable. Of note, I had bought a bottle the prior night ( 780 r) and they retried it for me). I continued to party with the others and found a nice light mulatta for which I agreed 2500 r all night, all holes (she offered LOL). Her exit fee was an additional 400 r. I ran into a little issue at the exit as she at first wanted me to pay her upfront at Scandallo via CC (would be 2750), I of course wanted to pay via cash afterwards (10% less). This became a bigger issue in the apartment as she insisted that I pay her upfront and wouldn't even agree to 1/2 before and 1/2 after. Started crying and everything (of note, I've never had a prepago cry with me and that sucked). We eventually reconcile and have decent sex although it was a serious libido killer. She says she'll make it up to me in the future.
-Chicago.[/QUOTE]Wow, 2500 R for over night. Thats crazy. Thats way over price.
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[QUOTE=Rahsta;3013868]Wow, 2500 R for over night. Thats crazy. Thats way over price.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I think 1500-2000 used to be normal for LT and 800-1000 for ST, but prices have gone up considerably. For what it's worth it was all holes and the 4 ISGers with me said she was smoking' and worth it when I vacillated.
What have you paid recently from Scandallo LT? You seem like someone who must go a lot to have a strong opinion. For non-Scandallo I pay anywhere from 800 to 1500 for LT, but usually do ST.
You can't compare Sao Paulo prices to Sosua, Medellin, or Pattaya, that's for sure!
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[QUOTE=FakeIt;3013803]I don't think there is a market in the world where the price has not gone up.
Do I wish I could get primo pussy for less than 100 USD? Sure. Did that exist somewhere in the 2010's? Or the 2000's? Maybe in the 90's? Sure.
But complaining about inflation, or geo-economics, sex laws, or onlyfans or whatever scapegoat we want to blame is really fruitless.
The best one can do it keep their ear to the ground. Read these forums. And follow-your nose.
Soa Paulo and the FKK-lands still represent some of the best hunting grounds on the planet.[/QUOTE]What part of my post was complaint? Maybe you and some of the forum members should try to distinguish between someone complaining and someone sharing information, facts and observations.
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[QUOTE=Chicago85;3013869]Agreed. I think 1500-2000 used to be normal for LT and 800-1000 for ST, but prices have gone up considerably. For what it's worth it was all holes and the 4 ISGers with me said she was smoking' and worth it when I vacillated.
What have you paid recently from Scandallo LT? You seem like someone who must go a lot to have a strong opinion. For non-Scandallo I pay anywhere from 800 to 1500 for LT, but usually do ST.
You can't compare Sao Paulo prices to Sosua, Medellin, or Pattaya, that's for sure![/QUOTE]The last 2 trips to Sao Paola, I went to Scandolla but did not take any thing up. We will always go to Casera after Scandola. I usually take a girl in Casera. I like darker and thicker females. I rarely see any in Scandolla. I like drinking and hanging out in Scandolla. I'm going to Sao Paulo in September. The most I'm willing to pay is 1000 R ST.
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[QUOTE=Rahsta;3013874]The last 2 trips to Sao Paola, I went to Scandolla but did not take any thing up. We will always go to Casera after Scandola. I usually take a girl in Casera. I like darker and thicker females. I rarely see any in Scandolla. I like drinking and hanging out in Scandolla. I'm going to Sao Paulo in September. The most I'm willing to pay is 1000 R ST.[/QUOTE]Yes, that makes sense for ST. My limit is generally 1200, but the conventional hot blonde ones all started at 2500-3000 before settling at 1500. I went home with my dick in hand the one night as I didn't lower. Hopefully you have better luck.
The 2500 was LT from 12 am to 9 am. Still a lot I think, but not comparable at all to your 1000ST. At Casarao I've never paid more than 600 r for ST. I just hate that it starts so late. And as most of us know, the darker and thick women are much cheaper than the thinner and lighter ones.
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[QUOTE=Chicago85;3013869] What have you paid recently from Scandallo LT?[/QUOTE]1500 to 2000 overnight until mid-morning to late afternoon. Actually, exactly 1500 or 2000.
For other clubs, consistently 1000 and on two occasions, 1200. At the other clubs, there seemed to be a tendency to leave earlier in the morning.
I'll add, this isn't based on grinding away with negotiations. I pick someone and the amount was always in the range, with one exception, as of the last two months. In the one case, she instantly agreed when I countered to the original offer. She was lovely. We spent many nights together.
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[QUOTE=Hanzonamura;3013880]1500 to 2000 overnight until mid-morning to late afternoon. Actually, exactly 1500 or 2000.
For other clubs, consistently 1000 and on two occasions, 1200. At the other clubs, there seemed to be a tendency to leave earlier in the morning.
I'll add, this isn't based on grinding away with negotiations. I pick someone and the amount was always in the range, with one exception, as of the last two months. In the one case, she instantly agreed when I countered to the original offer. She was lovely. We spent many nights together.[/QUOTE]Got it. My prices aren't too far off with more recent inflation. I rarely do more than one counter offer as extended negotiations are a turnoff for both parties. One of the girls (young blonde from Curitiba) wouldn't go lower than 1700 for ST and when I jokingly threw out 1500, said 'only 30 minutes. ; I was like WTF. I didn't even know that was an option LOL.
Despite speaking some decent Portuguese and being a tall / fit mid 40's, I find that I pay more than many guys for some reason. I can only venture that I have the look of a classic 'rich' gringo and am too nice to the girls. (i. e. Someone to be exploited kkk.) I also tend to pull earlier around 11:30 pm / 12 am. This 2 am stuff isn't for me. I do regularly get much better rates on future meet ups (Scandallo girl did 1500 the second time for 8pm-8am) and the occasional freebies with girls looking to lock me down as a BF. OF course this is usually tied to a nicer restaurant date.
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[QUOTE=Rahsta;3013874]...... I like darker and thicker females......[/QUOTE]You must be very happy in today's mongering world.
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[QUOTE=Chicago85;3013955]One of the girls (young blonde from Curitiba) wouldn't go lower than 1700 for ST and when I jokingly threw out 1500, said 'only 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]I stayed in Curitiba last year. The best looking girl who is a real blonde with blue eyes in the boate asked for 700 or 800 that is basically the standard pricing. There was one girl who has worked in Scandello and wasn't even that attractive asked for 100 more. Because Curitiba is so small so I got to know most of the places and many girls. Some work in casa charging less than 200 an hour. Some work in the boate or high end clinica charging around 700 to 800. Some would go to the freelancer clubs after work and charging more or less the same. It was about 500 when I was there if I remember the number correctly. I talked to the manager and he confirmed the number to me as well.
I also dated a SB in Sao Paulo last year who was also from Curitiba. She speaks 4 languages fluently. She made 2500 a month and the job was in an abusive environment so she quitted her job to try to become an actress or model.
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[QUOTE=FakeIt;3013803]I don't think there is a market in the world where the price has not gone up..[/QUOTE]It depends on market segment. In Bangkok, go go has gone up. I went to a gogo, and they want to charge me for asking the girl to sit with me. LOL. Thermae or the street girls do not seem to have changed much. I even met a girl from Georgia (Europe) on soi 11 wanting only 3000. The viets are charging 2500 or less. KTVs in Vietnam have gone up. Do you see the common theme here? You are not going to see the type of prices mentioned here if you go to less popular cities in Brazil.
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Other Areas
[QUOTE=Nounce;3014057]I stayed in Curitiba last year. The best looking girl who is a real blonde with blue eyes in the boate asked for 700 or 800 that is basically the standard pricing. There was one girl who has worked in Scandello and wasn't even that attractive asked for 100 more. Because Curitiba is so small so I got to know most of the places and many girls. Some work in casa charging less than 200 an hour. Some work in the boate or high end clinica charging around 700 to 800. Some would go to the freelancer clubs after work and charging more or less the same. It was about 500 when I was there if I remember the number correctly. I talked to the manager and he confirmed the number to me as well. I also dated a SB in Sao Paulo last year who was also from Curitiba. She speaks 4 languages fluently. She made 2500 a month and the job was in an abusive environment so she quitted her job to try to become an actress or model.[/QUOTE]In Curitiba earlier this year, I found that from around 600 to 800 reals depending would get the deal done for an hour session in most cases at the more popular boates.
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[QUOTE=Chicago85;3013879]Yes, that makes sense for ST. My limit is generally 1200, but the conventional hot blonde ones all started at 2500-3000 before settling at 1500. I went home with my dick in hand the one night as I didn't lower. Hopefully you have better luck.
The 2500 was LT from 12 am to 9 am. Still a lot I think, but not comparable at all to your 1000ST. At Casarao I've never paid more than 600 r for ST. I just hate that it starts so late. And as most of us know, the darker and thick women are much cheaper than the thinner and lighter ones.[/QUOTE]Wow, 600 for a girl at Casarao. The most I ever paid was 300. Never knew those thinner and lighter chicks where charging that much.
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[URL]https://garotacomlocal.com/acompanhante/rebeca-villar/[/URL] anyone fucked her in SP? Tell her that Vagabundo Felipe Ret Bengala in Rio wants her to come to Rio de Janeiro, Barra Posto 7 or soon Posto 2. Reports appreciated. 300 r for vaginal (with condom! Haha).
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[QUOTE=Rahsta;3014085]Wow, 600 for a girl at Casarao. The most I ever paid was 300. Never knew those thinner and lighter chicks where charging that much.[/QUOTE]I'd love to see these beautiful girls that you are paying (at most) 300 r from Casarao. So you normally pay like 200 r? That's < $40. Is this for only 30 minutes?? I've never heard of such things to be honest and never paid less than 400 r myself for 60 minutes (I never do less).
Others can chime in, but I think 500-600 r is pretty standard at Casarao these days for 60 minutes, particularly when I'd pull at 12-1 am, and also for the talent that I go for. I usually only find 4-5 that I'm attracted to and need to act fast before they're pulled by someone else. Again, I speak pretty decent Porto and chat them up as well. You must be a Casanova for 200-300 r.
At any rate, to each their own. I see that we fish in very different parts of the ocean, but both have a great time. Enjoy!
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[QUOTE=Nounce;3014057] .... I also dated a SB in Sao Paulo last year who was also from Curitiba. She speaks 4 languages fluently. She made 2500 a month and the job was in an abusive environment so she quitted her job to try to become an actress or model.....[/QUOTE]I found a surprising number of the girls on those sites to be former models. Many are well travelled and quite sharp, particularly those in the upper 20's. For what it's worth, when I was learning Portuguese I had an online teacher / tutor from PrePly. I started off paying her $12/ HR, before eventually getting to $18/ HR. She wasn't the best teacher, but VERY attractive and spoke decently fluent American English. I asked her story. Turns out that she was a model in L. A. For 7 years (verified with website), and then aged out around 26-27. She lost her USA Visa and had moved back in with her parents (lived on one of the Barra the Tijuca golf courses). Basically needed to start all over once the modeling thing didn't work out long term. They also don't pay the low-level models much so they need side $$.
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[QUOTE=Chicago85;3014150]I found a surprising number of the girls on those sites to be former models. Many are well travelled and quite sharp, particularly those in the upper 20's. For what it's worth, when I was learning Portuguese I had an online teacher / tutor from PrePly. I started off paying her $12/ HR, before eventually getting to $18/ HR. She wasn't the best teacher, but VERY attractive and spoke decently fluent American English. I asked her story. Turns out that she was a model in L. A. For 7 years (verified with website), and then aged out around 26-27. She lost her USA Visa and had moved back in with her parents (lived on one of the Barra the Tijuca golf courses). Basically needed to start all over once the modeling thing didn't work out long term. They also don't pay the low-level models much so they need side $$.[/QUOTE]I don't know how long I would stick to learning Portuguese without trying to get into her panties.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;3014061]In Curitiba earlier this year, I found that from around 600 to 800 reals depending would get the deal done for an hour session in most cases at the more popular boates.[/QUOTE]What I am trying to say with this example is that the pricing is location dependent. The girls are going to charge the going rate of the location and not based on where the other job pays. Because everything is so close together in Curitiba and most other places close early so girls from different locations with different pricing would go to the same freelancer club like Metro or Class to charge the same price.
The Scandello girl has been influenced by big city so she wanted more, but still much less than what typically mentioned here for Scandello.
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[QUOTE=Chicago85;3014150]I found a surprising number of the girls on those sites to be former models. [/QUOTE]I think there are different types of models. I had a tutor who was a model too. She belongs to a modeling agency and I can see her profile on the agency website. She travelled with other models in the agency and shared room with them, and they often ate instant noodle as meals. They travel for work and would stay in a city until the next assignment comes. She is very discrete and more inline of the regular Brazilian women that I know. I met her during COVID lockdown.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;3014152]I don't know how long I would stick to learning Portuguese without trying to get into her panties.[/QUOTE]Ha, I tried! After about a month of lessons I was in Rio and hit her up. We went to the beach in Barra, but I couldn't get any further with her. She had a more age appropriate on again, off again, American boyfriend who was a banker in L. A.
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[QUOTE=Chicago85;3014146]I'd love to see these beautiful girls that you are paying (at most) 300 r from Casarao. So you normally pay like 200 r? That's < $40. Is this for only 30 minutes?? I've never heard of such things to be honest and never paid less than 400 r myself for 60 minutes (I never do less).
Others can chime in, but I think 500-600 r is pretty standard at Casarao these days for 60 minutes, particularly when I'd pull at 12-1 am, and also for the talent that I go for. I usually only find 4-5 that I'm attracted to and need to act fast before they're pulled by someone else. Again, I speak pretty decent Porto and chat them up as well. You must be a Casanova for 200-300 r.
At any rate, to each their own. I see that we fish in very different parts of the ocean, but both have a great time. Enjoy![/QUOTE]I think the poster you're replying to is likely referring to the short term rate in Casarao which yeah is like 30 or 40 minutes for 300 reais I think. Girls can set their own rate but that's usually about the standard there.
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[QUOTE=Chicago85;3014146]I'd love to see these beautiful girls that you are paying (at most) 300 r from Casarao. So you normally pay like 200 r? That's < $40. Is this for only 30 minutes?? I've never heard of such things to be honest and never paid less than 400 r myself for 60 minutes (I never do less).
Others can chime in, but I think 500-600 r is pretty standard at Casarao these days for 60 minutes, particularly when I'd pull at 12-1 am, and also for the talent that I go for. I usually only find 4-5 that I'm attracted to and need to act fast before they're pulled by someone else. Again, I speak pretty decent Porto and chat them up as well. You must be a Casanova for 200-300 r.
At any rate, to each their own. I see that we fish in very different parts of the ocean, but both have a great time. Enjoy![/QUOTE]
The last time I was in Sao Paulo was in September, I paid $R300. I just asked a friend and he says he pays $R400 to $500 for an hour. I will be in Sao Paulo in September again this year. I guess prices have went up.
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[QUOTE=Trojan22;3014203]I think the poster you're replying to is likely referring to the short term rate in Casarao which yeah is like 30 or 40 minutes for 300 reais I think. Girls can set their own rate but that's usually about the standard there.[/QUOTE]Its usually one pop. I'm good with that. A few times the phone rang and we where just finish getting dress. So it usually 40 min to 1 hour.
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Instagramma
[QUOTE=Chicago85;3014146]I'd love to see these beautiful girls that you are paying (at most) 300 r from Casarao.
At any rate, to each their own. I see that we fish in very different parts of the ocean, but both have a great time. Enjoy![/QUOTE]In casarao & scandallo I ask for their instagramma account to follow each other. They love posting bikini shots in love motels --Lush, green bikini cutie and her sister.
Easier to remember them days later, and always ask about inviting their sexy girlfriends vis instagram messages.
On wassap they post photos about their food (I don't care they are eating at outback stakehouse) silky kids doing silly things, and dumb morning messages.
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[QUOTE=Rahsta;3014229]Its usually one pop. I'm good with that. A few times the phone rang and we where just finish getting dress. So it usually 40 min to 1 hour.[/QUOTE]The rooms at Casarao usually are busy especially after 2 am. The were times I had to wait more than half hour for a room and don't think management would let me stay for than few minute more than I paid for. After hearing how successful you are getting girls for are $200 or so, I shouldn't be surprised to learn Casarao management lets you stay in the room for up to an hour when you paid for half hour. I hope you continue have such great success.
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First time in Sao Paulo
Hello friends. Hope you can help guide me on my first trip to Sao paulo. Planning to be there in mid August for a week, with the solo purpose of mongering. I have mongered across Medellin, San Jose (Costa Rica), Dubai, Bangkok. Medellin by far has remained my most favorite until now, followed by dubai (russians! But too far to go to dubai from US. Have been to Medellin 4-5 times already, and looking to switch things up. Sao Paulo seems to be my next goal.
A bit about me: I don't like to be cheap, especially when I am doing a s*x vacation. Don't mind splurging on best looking girls. Hence, planning to hit Scandallo every night (seems like closed on Sunday though). Is Scandallo open during afternoons as well, and has some girls then? Also planning to explore Bomboa, Casarao. During day time, I also plan to hit some of the clinicas (the luxury ones seem to be The Palms and Lushness).
My game plan: I usually try to get 3-4 shots in a 24 hour period. So, planning for 1 at a clinica in the morning / afternoon; 1 in early evening at Scandallo / Bomboa / Casarao, and 1-2 with a girl overnight at my hotel (or a love motel. See below) that I pick up from Scandallo.
I am most confused about hotel: Usually when I go to Dubai, I will stay at Double Tree Hilton M Square. If some of you have gone there, you would know, it is a pretty nice 5 star, not crazy expensive (about 200-350 USD per night), and super girl visitor friendly. What could be a good equivalent in Sao paulo? I have RTFF and seems like Moema neighborhood is a good choice, but seems a bit far from Scandallo. However, has the I checked out Rosewood, but seems very expensive for a week long stay ($500-$600 USD per night). What will you recommend as a solid 5 star hotel in the 200-350 USD per night range? I also got intrigued by the concept of Love motels (e. G. , Lush motel looks very nice! Should I just stay at a love motel for 7 nights? Or is it only for a few hour trips you would recommend I. E. Pick a girl from Scandallo and spend the night with her at Lush motel and then come back to my home base hotel?
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Great tip!
[QUOTE=Tochka;3014240]In casarao & scandallo I ask for their instagramma account to follow each other. They love posting bikini shots in love motels --Lush, green bikini cutie and her sister. Easier to remember them days later and always ask about inviting their sexy girlfriends vis instagram messages.
On wassap they post photos about their food (I don't care they are eating at outback stakehouse) silky kids doing silly things, and dumb morning messages.[/QUOTE]I try to take my own shots of the girls and I find that most boate girls are fine with it. Some are extrovert and will pose, others will only allow face shots or selfies of the 2 of us. Most girls will loosen as they become more comfortable with me after a couple of repeat sessions back at the hotel. But I find that clinca girls are more reluctant to pose. Usually, the most they will give me are head shots, but some clinica girls are opposed to even that. That is where your instagram tip can really help out.
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[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;3014284]Hello friends. Hope you can help guide me on my first trip to Sao paulo. Planning to be there in mid August for a week, with the solo purpose of mongering. I have mongered across Medellin, San Jose (Costa Rica), Dubai, Bangkok. Medellin by far has remained my most favorite until now, followed by dubai (russians! But too far to go to dubai from US. Have been to Medellin 4-5 times already, and looking to switch things up. Sao Paulo seems to be my next goal.
A bit about me: I don't like to be cheap, especially when I am doing a s*x vacation. Don't mind splurging on best looking girls. Hence, planning to hit Scandallo every night (seems like closed on Sunday though). Is Scandallo open during afternoons as well, and has some girls then? Also planning to explore Bomboa, Casarao. During day time, I also plan to hit some of the clinicas (the luxury ones seem to be The Palms and Lushness).
My game plan: I usually try to get 3-4 shots in a 24 hour period. So, planning for 1 at a clinica in the morning / afternoon; 1 in early evening at Scandallo / Bomboa / Casarao, and 1-2 with a girl overnight at my hotel (or a love motel. See below) that I pick up from Scandallo.
[/QUOTE]Sounds like a fun plan. Can it done? Yes but I wouldn't recommend it. São Paulo has horrible traffic so you will spend a lot of time going back and forth. If you want to hit the clinicas, then your afternoon will be busy in that. You will have to check out a few before you find something you like and most of them don't start till 1 pm. Scandello and Bomboa open at 12 pm. Casarao doesn't get started till late night like 1 am.
You could hit the clinicas in the afternoon, get 1-2 shots in, go back to your hotel and rest till evening, then head to Scandello before 7 pm to avoid pay the full entry, take one up to the room and then head out to Casarao around 1 am and find something there and use the hotel next door. This could be done but it will depend on your age and energy levels.
As per the hotel, I usually stay at the Renaissance in Jardim Paulista which is a very nice safe area with lots of shopping and restaurants in case you get bored of all the fucking.
Enjoy your stay!
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[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;3014284]Hello friends. Hope you can help guide me on my first trip to Sao paulo. Planning to be there in mid August for a week, with the solo purpose of mongering......
A bit about me: I don't like to be cheap, especially when I am doing a s*x vacation. Don't mind splurging on best looking girls. Hence, planning to hit Scandallo every night (seems like closed on Sunday though). Is Scandallo open during afternoons as well, and has some girls then? Also planning to explore Bomboa, Casarao. During day time, I also plan to hit some of the clinicas (the luxury ones seem to be The Palms and Lushness).
My game plan: I usually try to get 3-4 shots in a 24 hour period. So, planning for 1 at a clinica in the morning / afternoon; 1 in early evening at Scandallo / Bomboa / Casarao, and 1-2 with a girl overnight at my hotel (or a love motel. See below) that I pick up from Scandallo.
I am most confused about hotel: ..... I have RTFF and seems like Moema neighborhood is a good choice, but seems a bit far from Scandallo. However, has the I checked out Rosewood, but seems very expensive for a week long stay ($500-$600 USD per night). What will you recommend as a solid 5 star hotel in the 200-350 USD per night range? I also got intrigued by the concept of Love motels (e. G. , Lush motel looks very nice! Should I just stay at a love motel for 7 nights? Or is it only for a few hour trips you would recommend I. E. Pick a girl from Scandallo and spend the night with her at Lush motel and then come back to my home base hotel?[/QUOTE]I agree with Anaggie comments. Here are a couple reports from SocratesNY that should be read if you missed.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2997731&viewfull=1#post2997731
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2997729&viewfull=1#post2997729
The luxury hotels will be girl friendly, but I have not found the mid-range Moema hotels and Airbnbs to NOT be very girl friendly. Sometimes you can unregister a person and add another the next night, but many are stricter and security often like to flex their power. A good number are women as well, so harder to give a tip with a wink like the male porteros in Medellin. For luxury I have stayed at the Grand Hyatt, JW Marriott, and W Hotel. All have been quite girl friendly.
If you do stay in Moema, you can get a love motel as you need it. I like Asturias which is 400 r / nt, so $70, and works well if your hotel is picky. They may charge a little bit more for additional girls, but unsure. There are other love motels for even cheaper if you search. I do not believe you can stay there 24-7. Usually you rent for 6 or 12 hours. They do have food and drink menus for convenience.
In regards to traffic, YES it is bad during the day, but I have not found it that bad when I was going to Scandallo from Moema (7-10 pm) or returning (12-1 am) usually.
Lastly, you're a high roller, which is good. Just be prepared to shell out some decent coin for Scandallo. I haven't been to Dubai, but guessing that prices are on par with that. Definitely more than Costa Rica or Germany, and much more than Colombia. The clinicas on the other hand are quite equitable and 350-450 r a pop.
Practice your Portuguese and Enjoy!
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Identity Theft and Staying Anonymous
What is the policy of massage clinics, private houses, nightclubs, swing houses, love motels, and similar businesses when it comes to providing identification? In all of my prior travels in Germany and Europe I have never had to show identification. My concern is that the ID will be stolen (rare, I am sure) or copied, and then later used for fraud or (worse) extortion. I might expect a love motel to want to see my ID, but what about all these variations on brothels? I like to use a nickname and prefer a clinic or house not to know my given name and country.
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[QUOTE=Lalabo;3014246]The rooms at Casarao usually are busy especially after 2 am. The were times I had to wait more than half hour for a room and don't think management would let me stay for than few minute more than I paid for. After hearing how successful you are getting girls for are $200 or so, I shouldn't be surprised to learn Casarao management lets you stay in the room for up to an hour when you paid for half hour. I hope you continue have such great success.[/QUOTE]LOL, management has no clue how much one negotiated for with a girl. The room cost is the same regardless. If it's not busy, no line for the rooms, they'll let the time run over a bit, especially if they like you.
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Selfies
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3014315]Great tip!
I try to take my own shots of the girls and I find that most boate girls are fine with it. Some are extrovert and will pose, others will only allow face shots or selfies of the 2 of us. Most girls will loosen as they become more comfortable with me after a couple of repeat sessions back at the hotel. But I find that clinca girls are more reluctant to pose. Usually, the most they will give me are head shots, but some clinica girls are opposed to even that. That is where your instagram tip can really help out.[/QUOTE]Yup same experience--though Asian garotas in clinicas and boates were super protective of their privacy. When meeting garotas first time I got tired of the wassap numbers changing or the garotas moving friom clinica to clinica changing haircolor, makeup, and different names, some bouncing back and forth from Rio to SP via blablacar. Or cheap $45 usd one way flight, they change hairstyles color. , cellular. Some have personal and a professional instagram accounts to keep the circles separate. But as you say after a couple of meetups there is a comfort level.
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[QUOTE=Chicago85;3014351]I have not found the mid-range Moema hotels and Airbnbs to NOT be very girl friendly. Sometimes you can unregister a person and add another the next night, but many are stricter and security often like to flex their power[/QUOTE]After reserving my last AirBnb, I received broader house rules adding all visitors must be pre-registered with language including non-registered guests would be absolutely prohibited So, I registered someone prior to check-in. On the 2nd night of my stay, late evening, she arrived in a revealing, short, tight black dress, heels. Turned towards reception but before I took two steps, security waved me away with very enthusiastic smiles. Continued with other guests for the rest of the day.
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Love Motels SP
Compiled list of Love Motels frequently mentioned in posts with a review.
With Moema as a starting point.
Sao Paulo. Love motels.
Andar de Cima. Sutes. Centro, So Paulo (erotic fun suites, short Uber from Casarao, next door to Love Cabaret, suites suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service, fun party atmosphere in suites).
Motel Colonial Palace (fucking best economical deal on the budget, decent pool, excellent food, and breakfast, short Uber from Scandallo, suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service, damn uber drivers prefer pickup outside instead of meeting in suites, the religious uber drivers never come inside, only outside drop-off, or pick up or they cancel the ride).
Lush Motel (unidade Ipiranga) (pool with toys, modern suites, short Uber from Scandallo decent size pool, suitable for threesome, all night, foursome are a bit tight, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service).
Secrets Motel are. Sebastopol, 47 - Vila Inglesa, So Paulo (nice daytime midpoint place to meet garotas when they live far away, suites average, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, marola friendly, service sucks, order iFood).
Hotel For Lovers, one minute walk from Jabaqura Metro.
Are. Dos Jequitibs, 261 - Jardim Oriental, (the rooms suck, the service sucks, and the price is cheap mas barrato, order iFood, however, the location for afternoon meetup, no Uber needed. Garotas takes the metro to Jabaquara Metro, walks less than one minute to the motel, a good meet-up spot when there is rain, afternoon thunderstorms, and traffic backed up for miles, and promised to meet at 5 pm, nothing else to recommend about the place). Garotas can leave by metro or onibus, easy in easy out for them).
Swing Motel, no Morumbi, So Paulo (far from scandallo, 20 min uber from Moema, erotic fun suites, suites suitable but tight for threesome, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for more garotas, ok service, colorful suites).
Chicago85.
Love Motel. Motel Asturias.
Perhaps this should go in a different thread, but I figured it comes up enough to put in the main SP one.
Last night I was in a familiar scenario where I didn't want to add another guest to my airbnb and needed an option. I'm staying in Moema and did not want to travel far and went to Motel Asturias (Pinheiro) on a friends suggestion. It turned out to be a great spot if you're with a first time girl who may be sketchy or if you just want to have a solid sport fucking session with a garota or two. It's 400 are for the base suite, but this is two floors, probably 1000 sq ft and includes a jacuzzi as well as sauna (plus queen bed). The Presidential suite is 650 are and includes a pool. In my case it was a hell of a lot of fun fucking the girl all over the suite (jacuzzi, bed, on stairs, shower, etc.). I even got a last rushed one in at her request as her Uber was on the way.
Chicago85.
If you do stay in Moema, you can get a love motel as you need it. I like Asturias which is 400 are / nt, so $70, and works well if your hotel is picky. They may charge a little bit more for additional girls, but unsure. There are other love motels for even cheaper if you search. I do not believe you can stay there 24-7. Usually you rent for 6 or 12 hours. They do have food and drink menus for convenience.
Steve 9696.
First, a shoutout to Lush motel. OMFG this place is fire! 🔥 They have 3, 6, and 12 hour blocks and you can book same day. But the key is how off the hook it is, especially for the price. I booked their Lush Spa Splash for 12 hours for $130 And boy is it worth it.
The suite is over 700 sq ft. And INSIDE the suite is a jacuzzi, sauna, and 10 x20 pool! Wtf! It is epic! There is this magic cabinet where when you order food and drinks, a bell rings and the shit shows up in the cabinet. No answering the door or having some dude deliver stuff. Just food and drinks at the beckon and it magically appears. Prices weren't bad either. You should def go to Lush, preferably with a duo which makes it even more fun.
[URL]https://lushmotel.com.br[/URL]
In Rio.
Panda Motel Botafogo, (top end suites with fvcking large ass pool, suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service in tuxedos, short Uber from Monte Carlos).
Mr Enternational.
Actually the love motels in Brazil are some of the most extravagant in the world. If you look at some of the porno movies, they film a lot of them there. They have pools and waterfalls and shit. Just search "moteis (plural of motel) rio de janeiro".
[URL]https://bambinahotel.com.br/[/URL]
[URL]https://corintohotel.com.br/[/URL]
[URL]https://demaiohotel.com.br/[/URL]
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Don't Worry
[QUOTE=Ak233;3014373]What is the policy of massage clinics, private houses, nightclubs, swing houses, love motels, and similar businesses when it comes to providing identification? In all of my prior travels in Germany and Europe I have never had to show identification. My concern is that the ID will be stolen (rare, I am sure) or copied, and then later used for fraud or (worse) extortion. I might expect a love motel to want to see my ID, but what about all these variations on brothels? I like to use a nickname and prefer a clinic or house not to know my given name and country.[/QUOTE]You are being overly paranoid. Yes you have to give ID at most places. Scandallo and Casarao for sure. But don't sweat it. No one is going to blackmail you. They hardly speak English. Much easier to blackmail a rich local. Not that that will happen either. These places live or die on discretion. Even credit card charges are obfuscated under some innocuous name. It never says Joes Blowjob Emporium.
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Discretion
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3014386]You are being overly paranoid. Yes you have to give ID at most places. Scandallo and Casarao for sure. But don't sweat it. No one is going to blackmail you. They hardly speak English. Much easier to blackmail a rich local. Not that that will happen either. These places live or die on discretion. Even credit card charges are obfuscated under some innocuous name. It never says Joes Blowjob Emporium.[/QUOTE]Yeah, my last trip I was settling the bill at a club (forget which one) and saw a charge for two "desserts" on there. I said I had not ordered any desserts. They told me that was code for a couple of condoms LOL! I typically like to use my own but don't always get to. But yes, discretion is very important and maintained at these establishments.
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[QUOTE=Ak233;3014373]What is the policy of massage clinics, private houses, nightclubs, swing houses, love motels, and similar businesses when it comes to providing identification? In all of my prior travels in Germany and Europe I have never had to show identification. My concern is that the ID will be stolen (rare, I am sure) or copied, and then later used for fraud or (worse) extortion. I might expect a love motel to want to see my ID, but what about all these variations on brothels? I like to use a nickname and prefer a clinic or house not to know my given name and country.[/QUOTE]I used my old driver license. They do not care what kind of document you show, until it has picture, name, and dob.
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[QUOTE=Ak233;3014373]What is the policy of massage clinics, private houses, nightclubs, swing houses, love motels, and similar businesses when it comes to providing identification? In all of my prior travels in Germany and Europe I have never had to show identification. My concern is that the ID will be stolen (rare, I am sure) or copied, and then later used for fraud or (worse) extortion. I might expect a love motel to want to see my ID, but what about all these variations on brothels? I like to use a nickname and prefer a clinic or house not to know my given name and country.[/QUOTE]I understand some of the concern, but as the other commenter noted, these places operate on discretion as well as loyalty, and one bad review could sink them.
In my experience in SP. Clinicas (no ID), love motels (ID), nightclubs including Scandallo-Casarao-Gauguin-Bomboa (ID).
In Rio. Clinicas (no ID), Termas (usually ID), love motels (no ID), nightclubs (50-50 on ID).
FWIW, I just carry my passport card or an expired military ID. Something that doesn't have any additional details like address to be used. I have known more paranoid guys to use fake IDs for running around as well, just be sure you don't get caught coming back to the USA With it.
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[QUOTE=Lalabo;3014246]The rooms at Casarao usually are busy especially after 2 am. The were times I had to wait more than half hour for a room and don't think management would let me stay for than few minute more than I paid for. After hearing how successful you are getting girls for are $200 or so, I shouldn't be surprised to learn Casarao management lets you stay in the room for up to an hour when you paid for half hour. I hope you continue have such great success.[/QUOTE]I always paid for an hour. I thought the rooms where hourly. LOL, It like the old butcher shops, when you took an number and waited for your number to come up.
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Clinicas vs Boates
Could someone describe to me what are clinical and boates? I have been only in Belo Horizonte and visited motels near the bust terminal in the north so I'm not all that Brazil experienced but will get there hopefully soon. Also is anyone could provide any addresses in Rio and São Paulo. Thanks in Advance.
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[QUOTE=CaliTraveler;3014478]Could someone describe to me what are clinical and boates? I have been only in Belo Horizonte and visited motels near the bust terminal in the north so I'm not all that Brazil experienced but will get there hopefully soon. Also is anyone could provide any addresses in Rio and So Paulo. Thanks in Advance.[/QUOTE]A clinica is a brothel with a set price that you select a girl and have sex. A boate is in a club setting with freelancers. Most of the clubs have room on site. You can mingle with girls in some clinicas like in a club but usually no foreplay that is common clubs like Scandello.
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[QUOTE=Rahsta;3014419]I always paid for an hour. I thought the rooms where hourly. LOL, It like the old butcher shops, when you took an number and waited for your number to come up.[/QUOTE]I think others assume it was half hour because of how much you paid the girl.
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[QUOTE=Tochka;3014378] But as you say after a couple of meetups there is a comfort level.[/QUOTE]I gave the girl the phone to take picture and let them decide what is comfortable for them. One girl would not use my phone and she has to use her phone. The difference is that she has the filter always on, not sure how she did it.
I have been playing with the giimbal to remote control it with my watch. The girl knew it's there but she has no idea how I control it. LOL.
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[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;3014284]I am most confused about hotel: Usually when I go to Dubai, I will stay at Double Tree Hilton M Square. If some of you have gone there, you would know, it is a pretty nice 5 star, not crazy expensive (about 200-350 USD per night), and super girl visitor friendly. What could be a good equivalent in Sao paulo? I have RTFF and seems like Moema neighborhood is a good choice, but seems a bit far from Scandallo. However, has the I checked out Rosewood, but seems very expensive for a week long stay ($500-$600 USD per night). What will you recommend as a solid 5 star hotel in the 200-350 USD per night range? I also got intrigued by the concept of Love motels (e. G. , Lush motel looks very nice! Should I just stay at a love motel for 7 nights? Or is it only for a few hour trips you would recommend I. E. Pick a girl from Scandallo and spend the night with her at Lush motel and then come back to my home base hotel?[/QUOTE]The Renaissance is a nice hotel and not only is it girl friendly, there are usually garotas working at the lobby bar. I don't recommend that you session with any of them, but that should give you an idea of how laid back the management is. It's a little closer to Scandellos than the JW, and very convenient if you want to try Casarao.
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You plan is solid, just remember, all plans go out the window upon arrival as you start meeting the girls andget tinto the action. KKK! Enjoy!
As to hotels: There are lots of good 4. 5 to 5* GF choices. Here are a few that I have stayed at and can recommend for various reasons: I like the Rennaissance & the Intercontinental in Jardim. The Grand Mercure Itaim Bibi, the Marriott Exec Apt in Itaim Bibi, my favorite neighborhood to stay, and the nearby W (a new Marriott that I have not been to before, but have an upcoming reservation for on my next trip. And lastly there is the JW, the Hyatt, the Hilton, the Sheraton, and the Gran Estanplaza Berrini over by the river in Morumbi, more or less. Plus, since you like Hilton, they have 2 additional hotels to consider: the Qoya Hotel Sao Paulo (Paulista Ave) and the DoubleTree (Itaim Bibi). Read more in the hotel thread and choose your poison.
A. H.
[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;3014284]Hello friends. Hope you can help guide me on my first trip to Sao paulo. Planning to be there in mid August for a week, with the solo purpose of mongering. I have mongered across Medellin, San Jose (Costa Rica), Dubai, Bangkok. Medellin by far has remained my most favorite until now, followed by dubai (russians! But too far to go to dubai from US. Have been to Medellin 4-5 times already, and looking to switch things up. Sao Paulo seems to be my next goal.
A bit about me: I don't like to be cheap, especially when I am doing a s*x vacation. Don't mind splurging on best looking girls. Hence, planning to hit Scandallo every night (seems like closed on Sunday though). Is Scandallo open during afternoons as well, and has some girls then? Also planning to explore Bomboa, Casarao. During day time, I also plan to hit some of the clinicas (the luxury ones seem to be The Palms and Lushness).
My game plan: I usually try to get 3-4 shots in a 24 hour period. So, planning for 1 at a clinica in the morning / afternoon; 1 in early evening at Scandallo / Bomboa / Casarao, and 1-2 with a girl overnight at my hotel (or a love motel. See below) that I pick up from Scandallo.
I am most confused about hotel: Usually when I go to Dubai, I will stay at Double Tree Hilton M Square. If some of you have gone there, you would know, it is a pretty nice 5 star, not crazy expensive (about 200-350 USD per night), and super girl visitor friendly. What could be a good equivalent in Sao paulo? I have RTFF and seems like Moema neighborhood is a good choice, but seems a bit far from Scandallo. However, has the I checked out Rosewood, but seems very expensive for a week long stay ($500-$600 USD per night). What will you recommend as a solid 5 star hotel in the 200-350 USD per night range? I also got intrigued by the concept of Love motels (e. G. , Lush motel looks very nice! Should I just stay at a love motel for 7 nights? Or is it only for a few hour trips you would recommend I. E. Pick a girl from Scandallo and spend the night with her at Lush motel and then come back to my home base hotel?[/QUOTE]
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Uber cache
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3014386]You are being overly paranoid. Yes, you have to give ID at most places. Scandallo and Casarao for sure. But don't sweat it. No one is going to blackmail you. They hardly speak English. Much easier to blackmail a rich local. Not that that will happen either. These places live or die on discretion. Even credit card charges are obfuscated under some innocuous name. It never says Joes Blowjob Emporium.[/QUOTE]All the advice given is spot on, in scandallo you can ask them to put your nickname in the system instead of the ID info. And they REALLY don't care about your name.
You can walk to 10 or 15 clinicas around Moema. Pay cash, use the name in gpguia profile to get the forista discount.
On my iphone Uber cache does keep track of places I have been. Random stupid uber messages are the worst!!
Uber on iPhone sends these types of random message throughout the entire day "bro you are 15 minutes from Scandallo and Secrets Sex motel. We have a Taxi promo going on right now for Uber One! You can visit Secrets sex motel & Scandallo again. Ready to go now?
Or in the list of suggested places to go, the immediate top three listed places Scandallo, Casarao, Secrets, Lush.
Those mofos should have a clear the Uber cache option for iPhones. Using the "hide the ride" button is not enough. Hot tempered, jealous, Brasilian girlfriend (s) can figure shit out just with a single glance at Uber's history or stupid Uber messages at random time. Yes I use dark protective covering for the cellular to make it less easier for Garotas to read the screen.
Kkklk.
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[QUOTE=Tochka;3014592]All the advice given is spot on ......On my iphone Uber cache does keep track of places I have been. Random stupid uber messages are the worst!!
Or in the list of suggested places to go, the immediate top three listed places Scandallo, Casarao, Secrets, Lush.
Those mofos should have a clear the Uber cache option for iPhones. Using the "hide the ride" button is not enough. Hot tempered, jealous, Brasilian girlfriend (s) can figure shit out just with a single glance at Uber's history or stupid Uber messages at random time. Yes I use dark protective covering for the cellular to make it less easier for Garotas to read the screen...[/QUOTE]LOL. I had this exact scenario happen to me 2 x on my last trip when the girl asked me to call her an Uber! Of course it being post coitus, and me being a gentleman, I obliged. And when the respective girls looked at my phone to verify their addresses saw Scandallo (OMG!) Ha ha. Both girls went wide eyed, gave me the side glance, and made comments, but honestly I think it just turned them on a bit more as they thought I was a high roller or something.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;3014531]I think others assume it was half hour because of how much you paid the girl.[/QUOTE]I never paid no more than $300 R. I'm going to Sao Paulo in Sept. Lets see how much they charge me in Casaera.
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[QUOTE=Tochka;3014592]All the advice given is spot on, in scandallo you can ask them to put your nickname in the system instead of the ID info. And they REALLY don't care about your name.
You can walk to 10 or 15 clinicas around Moema. Pay cash, use the name in gpguia profile to get the forista discount.
Kkklk.[/QUOTE]Thanks for all of the feedback. I have a gpguia profile and hope to get the discount!
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Real Massage Places?
I have done a lot of reading about the massage clinics, but do any of you have recommendations for places with real massage? It seems that a real massage is more expensive than having sex in a clinic (300-400 are / hour massage vs 250 are / hour sex in some clinics). Go figure. I wouldn't mind taking a break from the sex to just relax with a sensitive therapeutic massage. Any suggestions?
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Cash
[QUOTE=Nounce;3014531]I think others assume it was half hour because of how much you paid the girl.[/QUOTE]By the way, I still have yet to be anywhere in the world as a tourist where I have been told I could not use cash and had to use a credit card. I told you I would tell you when it happened, if ever, and it still has not to me in all my travels (started traveling internationally again last year). Not at any restaurant, bar, nightclub, grocery store, gift shop, nowhere. Cash or credit welcome! Again, if it's one that's been refused overseas it's been the credit card in favor of cash money. So, still waiting for someone to tell me credit card only. Nobody has ever refused to take this tourist's cash in over 50 countries. Cash remains a king! Especially when it comes to paying the tutes haha! Credit cards also are a king, but people are still taking that cash! Do they prefer one over the other? I don't know and don't care as along as I can use whichever I choose to in the moment.
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Different Venues for Different Tastes and Different Wallets
[QUOTE=CaliTraveler;3014478]Could someone describe to me what are clinical and boates? I have been only in Belo Horizonte and visited motels near the bust terminal in the north so I'm not all that Brazil experienced but will get there hopefully soon. Also is anyone could provide any addresses in Rio and So Paulo. Thanks in Advance.[/QUOTE]Think of it this way; an SP clinica is like a BKK oily massage parlor with set prices and the girls work for the house. A SP boate is a nightclub full of FL, independant, working girls whom punters can audition, wine & dine if they want, and ultimately take upstairs or back home. Clinicas are mainly set up for afternoon & early evening diversions. Boates are generally set up for nighttime entertainment although there are exceptions (afternoon openings).
SP has clincas & boates. RJ has prives & termas. The prives are are cheaper than clinicas, but Prive talent and environment is not as good as the clinicas if you ask me. RJ termas remind me of Pattaya Gentlemen Clubs and there are some good termas in RJ. Terma girls work for the house (set prices) but are quite gregarious and punters can test drive them in the bar / lounge area them before deciding whether to ask them upstairs. Takeout is PROHIBITIVELY expensive. Lastly, RJ does not have any boates worth mentioning (so sad).
P.S. Look up the addresses yourself!
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Does the Brazillian e-visa need to be printed in color or would black and white suffice? Searched for this online but didn't get any hits. Can someone who's traveled after the visa requirement confirm?
I think it's stupid that an "e-visa" needs to even be printed at all but I see it mentions that two printed copies are necessary for entry.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;3014690]By the way, I still have yet to be anywhere in the world as a tourist where I have been told I could not use cash and had to use a credit card. ... Do they prefer one over the other?.[/QUOTE]I told you one example before already. Haha. Many places will prefer cash for tax reasons and you can easily get a discount with cash payment.
Here is a not entirely related example. Many places, especially the high end ones, that you pay the girl separately. If you put on a card, there is an extra charge. That charge is because the girl need to put tax on them.
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Black and White
[QUOTE=Trojan22;3014714]Does the Brazillian e-visa need to be printed in color or would black and white suffice? Searched for this online but didn't get any hits. Can someone who's traveled after the visa requirement confirm?
I think it's stupid that an "e-visa" needs to even be printed at all but I see it mentions that two printed copies are necessary for entry.[/QUOTE]Yeah black and white is fine. Worked for me.
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A Couple Adds
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3014692]Think of it this way; an SP clinica is like a BKK oily massage parlor with set prices and the girls work for the house. A SP boate is a nightclub full of FL, independant, working girls whom punters can audition, wine & dine if they want, and ultimately take upstairs or back home. Clinicas are mainly set up for afternoon & early evening diversions. Boates are generally set up for nighttime entertainment although there are exceptions (afternoon openings).
SP has clincas & boates. RJ has prives & termas. The prives are are cheaper than clinicas, but Prive talent and environment is not as good as the clinicas if you ask me. RJ termas remind me of Pattaya Gentlemen Clubs and there are some good termas in RJ. Terma girls work for the house (set prices) but are quite gregarious and punters can test drive them in the bar / lounge area them before deciding whether to ask them upstairs. Takeout is PROHIBITIVELY expensive. Lastly, RJ does not have any boates worth mentioning (so sad).
P.S. Look up the addresses yourself![/QUOTE]As usual Axel is on point. A couple adds tho. In terms of the RJ terma test drive you can of course French kiss a girl that is open to but also many will slip their hand under your robe and play with your dick. Experienced this at both Monte Carlo and Centaurus. Beware tho esp at Centaurus where the girls are first class sharks it's hard to skip the room after ten minutes of handy work!
Also I would say that Dolce Vita qualifies as a worthy RJ boate after 1 AM. Not nearly as good as SPs Scandallo or Casarao but you can def find a hottie for takeout. Casa Blanca would be another option but last time I was there they had a steep 600 R takeout fee. In my case it was a gem and I was not unhappy but def know it's steep going in!
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[QUOTE=Ak233;3014604]do any of you have recommendations for places with real massage?[/QUOTE]Buddha Spa was excellent. Didn't have the impression the pricing was unfair or prohibitive.
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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3014692]Think of it this way; an SP clinica is like a BKK oily massage parlor with set prices and the girls work for the house. A SP boate is a nightclub full of FL, independant, working girls whom punters can audition, wine & dine if they want, and ultimately take upstairs or back home. Clinicas are mainly set up for afternoon & early evening diversions. Boates are generally set up for nighttime entertainment although there are exceptions (afternoon openings).
SP has clincas & boates. RJ has prives & termas. The prives are are cheaper than clinicas, but Prive talent and environment is not as good as the clinicas if you ask me. RJ termas remind me of Pattaya Gentlemen Clubs and there are some good termas in RJ. Terma girls work for the house (set prices) but are quite gregarious and punters can test drive them in the bar / lounge area them before deciding whether to ask them upstairs. Takeout is PROHIBITIVELY expensive. Lastly, RJ does not have any boates worth mentioning (so sad).
P.S. Look up the addresses yourself![/QUOTE]This is great info. In general, are clinicas and boates in SP and also prives and termas in RJ in different class neighbourhoods which in turn kind of determine what they are, ie. , boates and termas are in higher end locations while clinicas and prives are in lower end areas?
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No Correlation
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3014830]This is great info. In general, are clinicas and boates in SP and also prives and termas in RJ in different class neighbourhoods which in turn kind of determine what they are, ie. , boates and termas are in higher end locations while clinicas and prives are in lower end areas?[/QUOTE]Definitely not. For example almost all the clinicas in SP are in Moema, which on balance is a nice residential area. Casarao is in a rougher location. Scan somewhere in the middle.
4 x4 is downtown and dicey area. Monte Carlo and the Boate's are all in Copa which, while you need to be careful at night is the big tourist Mecca.
So I see very little correlation between hours / type of venue and location.
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[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3014833]Great info here as well! I am a bit confused though. If these venues are generally bars and clubs that have a lot of FLs, then why would there be a take out fee? I can understand if the girl works for the bar much like those in Thailand where there is a bar fine. But if the girls are FLs, how is this tied to a takeout fee? If FLs can come and go as they please, what's stopping them from meeting with you outside the club to bypass such a takeout fee? I guess what I'm saying is that I'm equating take out fee to a bar fine in Thailand and don't understand the rationale if the girls are FLs who are not really working for the bar.[/QUOTE]This question more appropriately belongs in the Sap Paulo thread, so I will answer it here accordingly.
Many attractive, FL girls want to work in a boate because that is where they will find a lot of men with money in their wallets. Yes, boate girls are independent contractors, FLs, but this fact does not prevent a boate from imposing certain work requirements on the girls if they want to work in that particular boate and thus gain access to the bordello's well off customer base.
Scandallo, for example, with the largest customer base in Brazil, will charge girls an entry fee unless they sign up for specific weekly scheduling assignments. Scan has 2 shifts: an afternoon shift and the evening shift (10 pm to closing). Girls can choose either shift they prefer, but the club will assign specific, required nights for them to be there. If a girl does not comply with the scheduling, she will have to pay the entry fee. Most girls comply because they are working girls and not superstars, but I always see a few model quality girls arriving late at night. They seem to come and go as they like because they can afford to pay the entry fee since their ask is so high. KKK. There is also an exit fee (equal to the hotel fee) which keeps most girls in the club unless they find a customer that wants to pay the fee and take them out.
I and other BM's have posted many times about meeting boate girls outside of the club. This is very doable because a girl can just call the club and tell them she isn't feeling well. This excuse will work for a few days in a row, but eventually the club will take her off schedule and she will have to start paying the entry fee again when she wants to return. My favorite boate girl falls into this category. When I am in town, for 3 to 6 weeks, she takes leave of Scandallo, and effectively becomes, my mistress while I am in town. Then after I leave SP, she gets back on Scan's schedule. BTW, she dislikes having to be there until closing time. She says it gets real boring around 3 am.
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Location
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3014914]Definitely not. For example almost all the clinicas in SP are in Moema, which on balance is a nice residential area. Casarao is in a rougher location. Scan somewhere in the middle. 4 x4 is downtown and dicey area. Monte Carlo and the Boate's are all in Copa which, while you need to be careful at night is the big tourist Mecca. So I see very little correlation between hours / type of venue and location.[/QUOTE]True Steve, but remember there are some clubs way out in Barra (absolute nicest, most upscale part of Rio). And then Solarium is in Lagoa, another more upscale part of the city which is also a bit of a haul from Copa, but not nearly as far as Barra. In my view, Solarium is a "must-see" terma. Perola Negra was also good with strong talent last time I was in Rio, but it's a [B]long[/B] way from Copa man, which as you say, is where the majority of the action is. This is why I will never choose Barra as "headquarters". But Perola Negra was worth at least one visit during my last stay. And I will return!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;3014922]In my view, Solarium is a "must-see" terma.[/QUOTE]
Solarium used to be "must-see" for me. However, the last few times I've gone there, it's been a total sausage fest in there. There's like 30 guys all sitting right next to each other shoulders touching and everything with like 20-25 girls around. And the talent level there isn't as nice as it once was either.
The place is just way too small overall. It's significantly smaller than Monte Carlo and Centaurus and probably slightly smaller than 4 x4 however 4 x4 has different floors and different stuff going on each floor so it seems more spread out at least.
Theres better places to go to than waste time at Solarium imo.
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Thanks everyone on the guidance / ideas!
I checked out some of the 5* hotels for my dates (8/9 to 8/16) next month. The prices seem a bit too high. No? Most of these (renaissance / jw / hyatt etc.) seem to be easily $300-$400 per night plus taxes. I usually like to have a suite with a seating area just to relax with the girls / drink there before heading to the bed. The suites seem insane at $500-$600 per night or above. Is Sao Paulo supposed to be this expensive, or is it just the month of August that it becomes expensive / tourist visits?
Ended up booking the Marriott Executive apartment as it has that small apartment feel with a seating area. Though it is not high end / flashy. I might be ok with that, as I am thinking of going to some fancy motels (Lush, Asturia, or some of the other ones mentioned here in the forum) as they seem to be a nice deal I think for $100-$150 for some of the nicer suites with pools etc. Will love to take the girls there may be and then come back to my apartment and sleep. Couple of questions:
1. I think Marriott Executive apartments is supposed to be totally girl friendly and no upcharges? Seems like few reports mentioned that.
2. How do we usually book some of these love motels (lush / asturia)? Do I have to book in advance or I can just pick a girl from scandallo and take her to one and book it on the spot? I have heard that I can just show up in the driveway and choose on the computer what is available. Is that how it works?
3. What time does Scandallo close? I see on google it says 5 AM on most nights. If I am unable to pick up a girl by 4 AM in Dubai clubs, they just mostly disperse and sometimes I have to go back alone to my room (sucks! If I want to pick a girl late in the early morning I. E. Around 5 AM or even 6 AM, do girls hang out at scandallo? Any other spots you would recommend?
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3014583]You plan is solid, just remember, all plans go out the window upon arrival as you start meeting the girls andget tinto the action. KKK! Enjoy!
As to hotels: There are lots of good 4. 5 to 5* GF choices. Here are a few that I have stayed at and can recommend for various reasons: I like the Rennaissance & the Intercontinental in Jardim. The Grand Mercure Itaim Bibi, the Marriott Exec Apt in Itaim Bibi, my favorite neighborhood to stay, and the nearby W (a new Marriott that I have not been to before, but have an upcoming reservation for on my next trip. And lastly there is the JW, the Hyatt, the Hilton, the Sheraton, and the Gran Estanplaza Berrini over by the river in Morumbi, more or less. Plus, since you like Hilton, they have 2 additional hotels to consider: the Qoya Hotel Sao Paulo (Paulista Ave) and the DoubleTree (Itaim Bibi). Read more in the hotel thread and choose your poison.
A. H.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;3015029]Thanks everyone on the guidance / ideas!
I checked out some of the 5* hotels for my dates (8/9 to 8/16) next month. The prices seem a bit too high. No? Most of these (renaissance / jw / hyatt etc.) seem to be easily $300-$400 per night plus taxes. I usually like to have a suite with a seating area just to relax with the girls / drink there before heading to the bed. The suites seem insane at $500-$600 per night or above. Is Sao Paulo supposed to be this expensive, or is it just the month of August that it becomes expensive / tourist visits?
Ended up booking the Marriott Executive apartment as it has that small apartment feel with a seating area. Though it is not high end / flashy. I might be ok with that, as I am thinking of going to some fancy motels (Lush, Asturia, or some of the other ones mentioned here in the forum) as they seem to be a nice deal I think for $100-$150 for some of the nicer suites with pools etc. Will love to take the girls there may be and then come back to my apartment and sleep. Couple of questions:
1. I think Marriott Executive apartments is supposed to be totally girl friendly and no upcharges? Seems like few reports mentioned that. [/QUOTE]SP 5-star hotel prices are in the stratosphere. I don't know anyone who pays the rack rate. But room rates fluctuate, almost weekly, and sometimes the chains offer weekend discounts or 3-to-5-night discount bookings that are much more reasonable. The main way I get around these huge rack rates is by using hotel points and annual voucher nights that I accumulate over time from various hotel chain credit cards like the Chase Marriott & Chase Hyatt. Having membership standing with these hotels can get you room upgrades at no additional cost when available. For example. On my last April visit the Intercontinental upgraded my reservation from their king bedroom to their largest 1 br suite facing the front of the hotel. I paid in points and vouchers for my 5-night stay. It was grand! And on the same trip, the Hyatt, while undergoing extensive lobby renovations, upgraded my queen bedroom reso to their 1 br suite facing the river. Again, I paid in points and vouchers for my 5-night stay. The Hyatt is my favorite hotel in SP despite the fact that the surrounding neighborhood is completely uninteresting and a touch out of the way.
That said, I like the Marriot Exec hotel. It ain't 5 star, but it is comfortable, it is girl friendly, and the location is GREAT. Unfortunately, Marriot does not accept hotel points for this property. It is cash only at all of their exec apartment hotels worldwide. I have stayed at 2 different Marriott Exec Apart Hotels in BKK and liked them both.
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[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;3015029]Thanks everyone on the guidance / ideas!
I checked out some of the 5* hotels for my dates (8/9 to 8/16) next month. The prices seem a bit too high. No? Most of these (renaissance / jw / hyatt etc.) seem to be easily $300-$400 per night plus taxes. I usually like to have a suite with a seating area just to relax with the girls / drink there before heading to the bed. The suites seem insane at $500-$600 per night or above. Is Sao Paulo supposed to be this expensive, or is it just the month of August that it becomes expensive / tourist visits?[/QUOTE]It's winter in Brazil, so this isn't the tourist season. That would be December to March when the prices are highest. In late February during Carnival, you'll see prices spike the most.
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[QUOTE=Trojan22;3014991]Solarium used to be "must-see" for me. However, the last few times I've gone there, it's been a total sausage fest in there. There's like 30 guys all sitting right next to each other shoulders touching and everything with like 20-25 girls around. And the talent level there isn't as nice as it once was either.
The place is just way too small overall. It's significantly smaller than Monte Carlo and Centaurus and probably slightly smaller than 4 x4 however 4 x4 has different floors and different stuff going on each floor so it seems more spread out at least.
Theres better places to go to than waste time at Solarium imo.[/QUOTE]In my visit to Rio earlier this year Solarium clearly had the best talent of all the termas. The talent was decent enough. Only 4 X4 had more clients. 4 X4 is much cheaper and I suppose more customers go to Solarium because the women are hotter.
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Other Questions
To answer Rahuls other two questions.
Yes you can def do walk up checkin at Lush. In fact it's really the only way. Their online is good and sophisticated but requires a CPF (like a Brazilian tax payer number) and Brazilian phone number. So not really practical. But me and my bud (separate times) didn't have any problem booking at the gate and girls arriving a bit later.
And Scan closes at 5. If you can't score a girl by then something is seriously wrong and you should retire from the game. 😝 Seriously. The likelihood of finding nothing is basically zero. And if that's the case it's your issue. Really.
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Solarium
[QUOTE=Turgid;3015155]In my visit to Rio earlier this year Solarium clearly had the best talent of all the termas. The talent was decent enough. Only 4 X4 had more clients. 4 X4 is much cheaper and I suppose more customers go to Solarium because the women are hotter.[/QUOTE]We were in Rio around the same time earlier this year. I think I was about halfway through my trip when you arrived, so we were seeing the same thing at Solarium. It wasn't the best talent I've ever seen there. But not nearly the worst either. When in Rio I always have to stop in on Solarium at least once to see what's cooking. But this is the Sao Paulo thread, so best to turn it back to that.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;3015168]To answer Rahuls other two questions.
And Scan closes at 5. If you can't score a girl by then something is seriously wrong and you should retire from the game. 😝 Seriously. The likelihood of finding nothing is basically zero. And if that's the case it's your issue. Really.[/QUOTE]I was just about to write something similar. If you can't score something by 5 am in Scandello, then it is time for some serious introspection.
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And learn some brasilian portuguese
[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;3015029]Thanks everyone on the guidance /
1. I think Marriott Executive apartments is supposed to be totally girl friendly and no upcharges? Seems like few reports mentioned that.
2. How do we usually book some of these love motels (lush / asturia)? Do I have to book in advance or I can just pick a girl from scandallo and take her to one and book it on the spot? I have heard that I can just show up in the driveway and choose on the computer what is available. Is that how it works?
3. What time does Scandallo close? I see on google it says 5 AM on most nights. If I am unable to pick up a girl by 4 AM in Dubai clubs, they just mostly disperse and sometimes I have to go back alone to my room (sucks! If I want to pick a girl late in the early morning I. E. Around 5 AM or even 6 AM, do girls hang out at scandallo? Any other spots you would recommend?[/QUOTE]4. advice: learn some basic brasilian Portuguese. In scandallo you don't want be limited to only the english speaking garotas, yes google translate works for basic communication with garotas in scandallo, casarao & clinicas. They all know how to figure out a session without ingles but there are so many small, language hassles or silly miscommunication if limites to only using google translate. Your experience will be enhanced with a few basic phrases or having a brasilian spotify playlist handy to play music in the love motels.
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So true
[QUOTE=Anaggie;3015181]I was just about to write something similar. If you can't score something by 5 am in Scandello, then it is time for some serious introspection.[/QUOTE]Hell, soon as the elevator doors open, take two steps toward the coffee bar on the right side. Stay silent, Smile and point your finger in the air upwards. Watch the line of garotas recognize the bat signal and approach you. Kkklk.
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Haha!
Sorry I forgot to clarify. Sometimes I pick a girl around midnight for a couple of hours (that's usually the standard unit of engagement in Dubai clubs. Haha), and by the time I am done by around 2 am, I am exhausted or too tired. But around 3/4 am I realize that I should see someone else as well, so I make my way back to the club and miss out on the opportunity as they close down sharp at 4 am, and I am not a quick decision maker unfortunately. And then Dubai pretty dry during the day time (few online options).
But, seems like I should not have that problem in Sao Paulo. Thanks for clarifying on the love motels way of booking. I will just try to do that.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3015168]To answer Rahuls other two questions.
Yes you can def do walk up checkin at Lush. In fact it's really the only way. Their online is good and sophisticated but requires a CPF (like a Brazilian tax payer number) and Brazilian phone number. So not really practical. But me and my bud (separate times) didn't have any problem booking at the gate and girls arriving a bit later.
And Scan closes at 5. If you can't score a girl by then something is seriously wrong and you should retire from the game. 😝 Seriously. The likelihood of finding nothing is basically zero. And if that's the case it's your issue. Really.[/QUOTE]
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I will try my best to pick some basic Brazilian Portuguese. I have working knowledge of Spanish, but realize that won't be useful in Brazil.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3015187]4. advice: learn some basic brasilian Portuguese. In scandallo you don't want be limited to only the english speaking garotas, yes google translate works for basic communication with garotas in scandallo, casarao & clinicas. They all know how to figure out a session without ingles but there are so many small, language hassles or silly miscommunication if limites to only using google translate. Your experience will be enhanced with a few basic phrases or having a brasilian spotify playlist handy to play music in the love motels.[/QUOTE]
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Spanish
[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;3015231]I will try my best to pick some basic Brazilian Portuguese. I have working knowledge of Spanish, but realize that won't be useful in Brazil.[/QUOTE]Actually, having Spanish is quite useful. There are enough similarities that if you speak it well enough and slowly enough many Brazilians will get what you are saying. But, you won't understand them! But trust me. English plus Spanish plus a good translator app will take you a long way. I'm already a Spanish speaker and have been studying Brazilian Portuguese for a few months now, and I have good conversational Portuguese already. My command of Spanish has made the learning easy. By the time I return I'm going to be golden!
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Shop around
[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;3015230]But around 3/4 am I realize that I should see someone else as well[/QUOTE]For various reasons, one can leave empty handed. But in your case, if budget is not a problem, then you should not unless it is a bad night. That may happen but rarely.
I suggest you to go to Casarao after midnight if you don't find anyone. The reason being that the same or the same type of girl that charges 1000 in Scandallo which may be considered overpriced would charge 500 at Casarao which could be considered a steal. I would only go to Casarao to find something cheaper, not something better, relatively speaking.
I suspect that you may not like Casarao. I spent a many nights there because I stayed near by and I don't like it. I am a slow guy, and Casarao is fast-paced
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[QUOTE=TheCane;3015311]By the time I return I'm going to be golden![/QUOTE]What took you so long to start?
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Work
[QUOTE=Nounce;3015331]What took you so long to start?[/QUOTE]My career. I just never had the time! But now I can say I speak three languages. English, Spanish, and Portuguese. But, I will still use a translator app for the Portuguese until I really have my confidence with it like I do with Spanish.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;3015180]We were in Rio around the same time earlier this year. I think I was about halfway through my trip when you arrived, so we were seeing the same thing at Solarium. It wasn't the best talent I've ever seen there. But not nearly the worst either. When in Rio I always have to stop in on Solarium at least once to see what's cooking. But this is the Sao Paulo thread, so best to turn it back to that.[/QUOTE]It was only in my visit earlier this year that Solarium had the best talent. In my earliest trips to Rio decades ago Centaurus had the best talent for me. Second and third would be L'uomo then Monte Carlo. But in those days I mostly sessioned Help garotas. When Help closed I stopped going to Rio then shifted to Sao Paulo which had very hot girls but the service was not as good as Rio; no place in the world has girls who give as good service as cariocas.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;3015311]Actually, having Spanish is quite useful. There are enough similarities that if you speak it well enough and slowly enough many Brazilians will get what you are saying. But, you won't understand them! But trust me. English plus Spanish plus a good translator app will take you a long way. I'm already a Spanish speaker and have been studying Brazilian Portuguese for a few months now, and I have good conversational Portuguese already. My command of Spanish has made the learning easy. By the time I return I'm going to be golden![/QUOTE]But be careful when speaking Spanish to a Brazilian. Make sure they know you understand Portuguese is their language but maybe they can understand your Spanish.
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Yes
[QUOTE=CatBert55;3015360]But be careful when speaking Spanish to a Brazilian. Make sure they know you understand Portuguese is their language but maybe they can understand your Spanish.[/QUOTE]You shouldn't just go blabbering away in Spanish like assuming a Brazilian understands. Very rude. What I do is ask if they understand some Spanish first. But even if they say no, I have found that if you speak slowly many actually will understand you. But less of an issue for me now. Because I speak basic, conversational Portuguese thanks to my recent studies!
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Spanish?
Even lusitanian Portuguese poses some difficulty for Brazilians to understand if they don't hail from the more educated classes. Expecting Spanish to be very helpful is naive, though it is useful as a background from which to learn Portuguese.
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Naive?
[QUOTE=XXL;3015462]Even lusitanian Portuguese poses some difficulty for Brazilians to understand if they don't hail from the more educated classes. Expecting Spanish to be very helpful is naive, though it is useful as a background from which to learn Portuguese.[/QUOTE]There's nothing naive about it at all. I've been going to Brazil for a couple of decades with just English and Spanish and a little bit Portuguese, and having a blast! Then when smartphones and translator apps came along that took it to a whole new level. I'm a seasoned Brazil traveler who knows what I'm talking about. [B]Simple[/B] Spanish used in the right way can be helpful when trying to communicate in Brazil. Even with uneducated prostitutes and doormen! I know because I have successfully used it over the years and won't let anyone deny me of my own lived experience. But for me it's all irrelevant now. I speak conversational Portuguese (and could always read simple Portuguese due to my Spanish). And I'm getting better every day!
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[QUOTE=Turgid;3015336]It was only in my visit earlier this year that Solarium had the best talent. In my earliest trips to Rio decades ago Centaurus had the best talent for me. Second and third would be L'uomo then Monte Carlo. But in those days I mostly sessioned Help garotas. When Help closed I stopped going to Rio then shifted to Sao Paulo which had very hot girls but the service was not as good as Rio; no place in the world has girls who give as good service as cariocas.[/QUOTE]I thought I was one of the few who thought that Cariocas naturally provide a GFE service. It is almost like they put themselves in a movie while at it. I haven't come across this type of service elsewhere.
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[QUOTE=XXL;3015462]Even lusitanian Portuguese poses some difficulty for Brazilians to understand if they don't hail from the more educated classes. Expecting Spanish to be very helpful is naive, though it is useful as a background from which to learn Portuguese.[/QUOTE]I find that my gringo Spanish is often times an impediment to my understanding Portuguese when spoken by ordinary Brazilians. The words on paper are similar, but the pronunciation gets me almost every time. KKK! I am still learning.
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Slang too
[QUOTE=TheCane;3015471]There's nothing naive about it at all. I've been going to Brazil for a couple of decades with just English and Spanish and a little bit Portuguese, and having a blast! Then when smartphones and translator apps came along that took it to a whole new level. I'm a seasoned Brazil traveler who knows what I'm talking about. [B]Simple[/B] Spanish used in the right way can be helpful when trying to communicate in Brazil. Even with uneducated prostitutes and doormen! I know because I have successfully used it over the years and won't let anyone deny me of my own lived experience. But for me it's all irrelevant now. I speak conversational Portuguese (and could always read simple Portuguese due to my Spanish). And I'm getting better every day![/QUOTE]Yeah kkk I get old women, elderly men, stupid kids mistaking me for the security guy, doorman, department store manager, all the fvcking time when they are looking for help in a department store or supermercado. It took a half a beat to understand why they are all calling "moco". My girl and I , we are busy buying men clothes in rachelo, 25 de marco, or the tailored shops in bras ,she wants me to dress "chave demais" because I have some " drip" about me. Fine. So we are in loja C & A , Rachelo ,half dozen random people coming up to me in conversations starting with "moco ajudar" or tio tio. Kkk. i like the translate app that can handle slang or local expressions . now no problem speaking porto.
Same thing in the clubs its just easier for conversations to flow. Plus a great spotify list of Ax,Baile Funk, Sertanej and urbano / trap music gets those garotos going and some porto.
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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3015512]I find that my gringo Spanish is often times an impediment to my understanding Portuguese when spoken by ordinary Brazilians. The words on paper are similar, but the pronunciation gets me almost every time. KKK! I am still learning.[/QUOTE]Agreed, particularly in Rio with the heavy 'ggjjuuuhhh' sound. I'm not sure how to best write LOL. While basic Spanish is helpful, many words that you'd think are the same are completely different, for example gym (En) - gimnasio (Sp) - academnia (Po) or birthday (En) - cumpleanos (Sp) - anniversario (Po) or thank you (En) - gracias (Sp) - obrigado (Po). Also querer (I want) in Spanish, translates more so as I love in Portuguese. This is just a small number. I need to consciously switch my brain around a little. Porto is easier in some ways because verb conjugation of he / she / you (informal) is basically the same, however there are 12 different tenses.
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Querer
[QUOTE=Chicago85;3015596]Agreed, particularly in Rio with the heavy 'ggjjuuuhhh' sound. I'm not sure how to best write LOL. While basic Spanish is helpful, many words that you'd think are the same are completely different, for example gym (En) - gimnasio (Sp) - academnia (Po) or birthday (En) - cumpleanos (Sp) - anniversario (Po) or thank you (En) - gracias (Sp) - obrigado (Po). Also querer (I want) in Spanish, translates more so as I love in Portuguese. This is just a small number. I need to consciously switch my brain around a little. Porto is easier in some ways because verb conjugation of he / she / you (informal) is basically the same, however there are 12 different tenses.[/QUOTE]The verb "querer" is used in the exact same way in Spanish. Yes, it means "to want". But, it's also very commonly used to express love and affection for another. Examples are "quiero mi mama" and "quiero mi esposa (wife)".
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[QUOTE=TheCane;3015600]The verb "querer" is used in the exact same way in Spanish. Yes, it means "to want". But, it's also very commonly used to express love and affection for another. Examples are "quiero mi mama" and "quiero mi esposa (wife)".[/QUOTE]Ah-ah you fell into you own trap here. The correct form is "quiero a mi esposa" and "quiero a mi mama". Direct object with respect to a living being are preceded by preposition "a".
Portuguese is considered somewhat more difficult than Spanish, not only on account of its richer pronounciation. For example gender is less predictable in Portuguese, and does not always tally with the same words in Spanish (ex. El viage / a viagem; la samba / o samba etc.). Portuguese still has a future subjunctive tense which is obsolete in Spanish, as well as a "personal infinitive" tense which is quite an oddity since an infinitive is per definition a tenseless form. On the plus side, in Brazilian Portuguese you don't have to worry about the second person (Spanish: tu / vosotros).
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Nope!
[QUOTE=XXL;3015703]Ah-ah you fell into you own trap here. The correct form is "quiero a mi esposa" and "quiero a mi mama". Direct object with respect to a living being are preceded by preposition "a".
Portuguese is considered somewhat more difficult than Spanish, not only on account of its richer pronounciation. For example gender is less predictable in Portuguese, and does not always tally with the same words in Spanish (ex. El viage / a viagem; la samba / o samba etc.). Portuguese still has a future subjunctive tense which is obsolete in Spanish, as well as a "personal infinitive" tense which is quite an oddity since an infinitive is per definition a tenseless form. On the plus side, in Brazilian Portuguese you don't have to worry about the second person (Spanish: tu / vosotros).[/QUOTE]I lived in Latin America for four years in two different countries, and the people said it exactly how I wrote it. It may not be technically correct in some respects, but that's how people spoke in everyday life, and that's how I say it too. Because it's every day communication with the "gente" that I care about. I'm not trying to give a speech to an educated audience on a complex subject or be a polished presenter on television. I'm just trying to communicate with ordinary people. When you learn a language, if you are being taught by someone who is a skilled instructor, they are going to teach you all the “correct” rules. But then when you get out there and start talking to real people, you find out how people actually speak, especially when it comes to slang. People do not follow all the “right” rules. Same thing with English speakers. As to Portuguese yes, I think most people agree that it's more challenging to learn. But already having Spanish makes it much easier to pick up. This is my lived experience. And I'm sticking to it!
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MeuPatricinio or Seeking or Facebook or something else?
Hey guys, Am preparing for my upcoming first Sao Paulo trip, and I know most of you will say that I don't need to go this route of trying to line up girls online, but I like to do that usually for most of my trips. E. g. , for Medellin, I love to connect with a girl on Seeking or Facebook before I get there. Not only do I find these girls to be more 'non-pro' (haha, not sure what a better word would be, may be more girl friend like), but also given my poor command of Spanish / Portuguese, I can at least be upfront in terms of discussing things with them online before getting there physically. Also, helps me connect with the girl (and her to connect with me) emotionally before meeting in person I. E. We exchange notes on what we like / dislike etc. I like this route of connecting with someone online.
Now, I am sure for Sao Paulo, Scandallo will overwhelm me (based on what I read here. Haha). But, if I want to line up few girls, what's the best way to go about it? I checked seeking in Sao Paulo, and don't find more than 30-40 girls active (I. E. Logged in to the platform) in the last 2-3 days. Its very thin, compared to Medellin.
I see a lot of girls with 'green' active button on the MeuPatrocinio, so am guessing they are active on it or logged in recently. I don't mind paying the fees to join, but don't want to run into scams there. Any feedback on that platform?
Or would you recommend any other path to go about lining up girls online? Facebook? Something else?
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[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;3015718]Hey guys, Am preparing for my upcoming first Sao Paulo trip, and I know most of you will say that I don't need to go this route of trying to line up girls online, but I like to do that usually for most of my trips. E. g. , for Medellin, I love to connect with a girl on Seeking or Facebook before I get there. Not only do I find these girls to be more 'non-pro' (haha, not sure what a better word would be, may be more girl friend like), but also given my poor command of Spanish / Portuguese, I can at least be upfront in terms of discussing things with them online before getting there physically. Also, helps me connect with the girl (and her to connect with me) emotionally before meeting in person I. E. We exchange notes on what we like / dislike etc. I like this route of connecting with someone online.
Now, I am sure for Sao Paulo, Scandallo will overwhelm me (based on what I read here. Haha). But, if I want to line up few girls, what's the best way to go about it? I checked seeking in Sao Paulo, and don't find more than 30-40 girls active (I. E. Logged in to the platform) in the last 2-3 days. Its very thin, compared to Medellin.
I see a lot of girls with 'green' active button on the MeuPatrocinio, so am guessing they are active on it or logged in recently. I don't mind paying the fees to join, but don't want to run into scams there. Any feedback on that platform?
Or would you recommend any other path to go about lining up girls online? Facebook? Something else?[/QUOTE]No reason whatsoever to do this in SP. I can assure you that unless you are complete tool, you will enjoy meeting the girls in Scandello. The girls are used to using Google Translate and all my experiences at Scandello and other places have been full on GFE. I like talking to girl and getting to know them because that is something that I truly enjoy. And I have never been disappointed in São Paulo. Can't say the same with other countries where a lot of the girls are very business like. Brazilian girls are just different!!
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[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;3015718]Hey guys, Am preparing for my upcoming first Sao Paulo trip, and I know most of you will say that I don't need to go this route of trying to line up girls online, but I like to do that usually for most of my trips. E. g. , for Medellin, I love to connect with a girl on Seeking or Facebook before I get there. Not only do I find these girls to be more 'non-pro' (haha, not sure what a better word would be, may be more girl friend like), but also given my poor command of Spanish / Portuguese, I can at least be upfront in terms of discussing things with them online before getting there physically. Also, helps me connect with the girl (and her to connect with me) emotionally before meeting in person I. E. We exchange notes on what we like / dislike etc. I like this route of connecting with someone online.
Now, I am sure for Sao Paulo, Scandallo will overwhelm me (based on what I read here. Haha). But, if I want to line up few girls, what's the best way to go about it? I checked seeking in Sao Paulo, and don't find more than 30-40 girls active (I. E. Logged in to the platform) in the last 2-3 days. Its very thin, compared to Medellin.
I see a lot of girls with 'green' active button on the MeuPatrocinio, so am guessing they are active on it or logged in recently. I don't mind paying the fees to join, but don't want to run into scams there. Any feedback on that platform?
Or would you recommend any other path to go about lining up girls online? Facebook? Something else?[/QUOTE]Skip the online if you are not there. It is more like a 50-50 because they use tons of filter. Whatever you do online, make sure you do a video call to make sure it is what you want / like.
I have had girls line up for other trips to other countries, and most of the time I either drop them, or end up with buyers remorse as I find hotter ones while hunting on site.
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Facebook or seeking is best. MP is full of scammers
[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;3015718]Hey guys, Am preparing for my upcoming first Sao Paulo trip, and I know most of you will say that I don't need to go this route of trying to line up girls online, but I like to do that usually for most of my trips. E. g. , for Medellin, I love to connect with a girl on Seeking or Facebook before I get there. Not only do I find these girls to be more 'non-pro' (haha, not sure what a better word would be, may be more girl friend like), but also given my poor command of Spanish / Portuguese, I can at least be upfront in terms of discussing things with them online before getting there physically. Also, helps me connect with the girl (and her to connect with me) emotionally before meeting in person I. E. We exchange notes on what we like / dislike etc. I like this route of connecting with someone online.
Now, I am sure for Sao Paulo, Scandallo will overwhelm me (based on what I read here. Haha). But, if I want to line up few girls, what's the best way to go about it? I checked seeking in Sao Paulo, and don't find more than 30-40 girls active (I. E. Logged in to the platform) in the last 2-3 days. Its very thin, compared to Medellin.[/QUOTE]Facebook or seeking is best. MP is full of scammers.
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[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;3015821]Facebook or seeking is best. MP is full of scammers.[/QUOTE]I don't think Seeking is worth it for Brazil. I was surprised how little women were on the site for a country with so many people. I did connect with a few on my first trip, but didn't bother on my second.
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Marriott Executive Apts
Currently considering Marriott Executive Apartments for an upcoming stay among others. Why do you say the location is so great. From a quick glance, it seems to be close to nothing of mongering interest. Please correct me.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3015133]
That said, I like the Marriot Exec hotel. It ain't 5 star, but it is comfortable, it is girl friendly, and the location is GREAT. Unfortunately, Marriot does not accept hotel points for this property. It is cash only at all of their exec apartment hotels worldwide. I have stayed at 2 different Marriott Exec Apart Hotels in BKK and liked them both.[/QUOTE]
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Location, Location, Location
[QUOTE=Kazeu;3016141]Currently considering Marriott Executive Apartments for an upcoming stay among others. Why do you say the location is so great. From a quick glance, it seems to be close to nothing of mongering interest. Please correct me.[/QUOTE]I like the location for a variety of reasons: 1) the neighborhood is a pleasant mix of upscale condos, standalone homes, and boutique shops where I discovered a Michelline star sushi restaurant, and a pretty good medium priced steak house.
2) The hotel is located 4 blocks from Ibirapuera Park.
3) The hotel's central location is halfway between the Molema clincias and Scandallo which IMO is a good transportation compromise if you like both venues like I do.
4) Bomboa is 2 blocks away. Bomboa is my 2nd favorite boate in SP.
5) There is an ATM machine in the hotel lobby!
The only downside of this hotel is no hotel room service at night so my girls and I must either order delivery or go out for dinner. This is not a big deal, but sometimes we want to just relax, stream a little TV, and order room service in between boom boom.
Another big hotel plus is every room has a balcony, a refrigerator / freezer, and a dishwasher making the apartment very entertainment friendly. Unfortunately, the rooms do not have a stand-alone shower with a separate jacuzzi tub like all my favorite 5-star hotels feature. Oh well, you can't have everything at this price point.
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I wish you could use Facebook to meet girls in Brazil. I've never heard of anyone successfully meeting a random girl off facebook for P2 P in Brazil. There is no place in the world quite like Medellin with its facebook P2 P culture. Even in other cities in Colombia, the "Facebook scene" is non existent. For Brazil, MP has more girls, there are scams everywhere, got to be careful, doesn't matter the platform.
[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;3015718]Hey guys, Am preparing for my upcoming first Sao Paulo trip, and I know most of you will say that I don't need to go this route of trying to line up girls online, but I like to do that usually for most of my trips. E. g. , for Medellin, I love to connect with a girl on Seeking or Facebook before I get there. Not only do I find these girls to be more 'non-pro' (haha, not sure what a better word would be, may be more girl friend like), but also given my poor command of Spanish / Portuguese, I can at least be upfront in terms of discussing things with them online before getting there physically. Also, helps me connect with the girl (and her to connect with me) emotionally before meeting in person I. E. We exchange notes on what we like / dislike etc. I like this route of connecting with someone online.
Now, I am sure for Sao Paulo, Scandallo will overwhelm me (based on what I read here. Haha). But, if I want to line up few girls, what's the best way to go about it? I checked seeking in Sao Paulo, and don't find more than 30-40 girls active (I. E. Logged in to the platform) in the last 2-3 days. Its very thin, compared to Medellin.
I see a lot of girls with 'green' active button on the MeuPatrocinio, so am guessing they are active on it or logged in recently. I don't mind paying the fees to join, but don't want to run into scams there. Any feedback on that platform?
Or would you recommend any other path to go about lining up girls online? Facebook? Something else?[/QUOTE]
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Close to Girls
[QUOTE=Kazeu;3016141]Currently considering Marriott Executive Apartments for an upcoming stay among others. Why do you say the location is so great. From a quick glance, it seems to be close to nothing of mongering interest. Please correct me.[/QUOTE]There is really no such thing as close to girl venues unless you only like a specific venue like clinicas. Then stay in Moema. But scandallo casarao and the clinicas form like an equilateral triangle 20 minutes apart. My choice is Transamerica Executive Paulista as kinda in the center of that. And a great location. Only downside is no pool. Otherwise a great choice.
Although Marriott Exec is 4 minute walk from Bomboa so that wouldnt suck.
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Great 4th visit to SP
Visited SP again around June 2nd week.
Had great 2 visits to Yankin and Miruna. Ended up tipping 50 extra to all 4 girls as I really enjoyed the BBBJ and GFE. All were in 25 to 32 age range and 5-7 range only in my opinion.
Was disappointed in Tangara as the English speaking lady was not there and the line up girls show up randomly and go to regulars. The girl I took had bad attitude.
4 visits to Casarao and all great experiences but 2 didn't budge BBBJ. All were in 300-400 range for 30 minutes. There were many hotties but I went with the ones who did eye contact.
Sorry I don't remember the names of any of them now as I am not native.
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Girls prices in SP during NFL
Hallo everyone, I am planning my travel to SP in / around 20th August. Prior booking I have one query.
As I have read in earlier post that Prices of girls go very high during NFL and F1. I believe NFL will start 5th Sept and F1 will be scheduled later in November. Any update on Hotel prices during that period? Is it advisable to travel during August for mongering considering NFL will be held next month September? Will wait for your valuable inputs. Thanks.
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NFL week
[QUOTE=Jackob54;3016309]Hallo everyone, I am planning my travel to SP in / around 20th August. Prior booking I have one query.
As I have read in earlier post that Prices of girls go very high during NFL and F1. I believe NFL will start 5th Sept and F1 will be scheduled later in November. Any update on Hotel prices during that period? Is it advisable to travel during August for mongering considering NFL will be held next month September? Will wait for your valuable inputs. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Don't know about hotels prices during the NFL and F1 week. I stay in an Airbnb apartment. Last year the Philly brothers showed up in force in SCANDALLO and the garotas were double or triple in force. The Philly weekend ballers were paying garotas 3 mil and 4 mil a session. Scandallo opened on Sunday to accommodate the big spending weekend ballers. Super Hot fantasy garotas from all across Brasil came to Scandallos to make coin, and a chance to meet some NFL ballers or the Philly fans. It was cool to see the game on the big screen, from upstairs near the DJ booth. Puzzling, don't know why a bunch of sistas showed up Scandallo?? All they did was give bros dirty looks as everyone ignored them. Kkk Security eventually moved they ass to a less visible spot, outside in the patio. On the sofa. ,kkkk. A few garotas I know asked to translate the meaning of some Philly hood phrases. Hey sweetie Scandallo is boomin, ya feel me. Hey dawg, I going to slide with her upstairs. Aight I ma get with you later, princess.
Weekend Ballers were paying top dollar last year. So I expect the same this year.
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[QUOTE=Tochka;3016475] Weekend Ballers were paying top dollar last year. So I expect the same this year.[/QUOTE]I was in Chanel / Friends 57 in Moema the night after the game helping translate for a guy. I told him that she wanted 300 (as I recall) and he started taking out USD LOL.
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Help me decide: Grand Hyatt vs. Marriott Executive apartments vs. Bourbon
Hey guys. I am nearly finalized for my first trip to Sao Paulo next week. Will be there for about a week. I am a bit of a high baller when it comes to experience when on vacation (sorry don't give me sh*t for that). I prefer to stay in high end hotels in other cities (Dubai / Medellin / Bangkok etc.) and bring the girls back for an overnight. I have a strong preference for suites, so that I can get some space to stay there comfortably for 8-10 days, have a sofa area to hang out with the girls before heading to bedroom.
I am looking at some of the 5 star hotels in SP for next week and following week, but it is looking insanely high prices. Even normal King bed rooms will be like 400 + USD per night, and suite will be like 600 USD per night, which will be north of $4500 for my 8-10 day stay. Haha. That's a lot! And I feel likeI might give the Love motels a try as well (they look really nice and fancy to stay overnight with the girls). So, I am in a bit of a weird situation now.
I can get a presidential suite at Grand Hyatt through my points (Not that expensive with the points it seems), OR pay for Marriott executive apartments OR stay at the Presidential suite at Bourbon / Wyndham in Ibirapuera.
I am liking the Grand Hyatt the most based on online pictures of the Presidential suite. But, it seems TOO FAR from scandallo (the place where I can see myself spending most time in the evenings). Is the traffic too bad in evening time? My directional plan is to have 1-2 sessions in Scandallo itself (seems like they have attached hotel -- how good is it? And then pick a girl for overnight around midnight and bring back to Hyatt. But, worry that it is too far from the action and might end up spending an hour in traffic!
Marriott seems like a decent compromise, though not luxurious at all. Its just decently fine.
Wyndham Ibirapuera seems good as well. Especially their Presidential suite, but worried about some of the complaints here on the airplane noise level / construction noise. Though they advertise the suites as "Soundproofed". Any experience in those suites?
Lush love motel seems to have an amazing room with a Pool in it! So, might give that a try. Any others you would recommend? I. e. Which is super luxurious in feeling and closer to Scandallo?
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Any nuru massage places in SP?
Hey guys. Really have an itch to try nuru massage style (body to body with oily / nuru gel). Is that a thing in SP clinicas? I saw it listed as an option on few clinicas (e. G. , Indra spa). Any recos?
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[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;3016528]
I am liking the Grand Hyatt the most based on online pictures of the Presidential suite. But, it seems TOO FAR from scandallo (the place where I can see myself spending most time in the evenings). Is the traffic too bad in evening time? My directional plan is to have 1-2 sessions in Scandallo itself (seems like they have attached hotel -- how good is it? And then pick a girl for overnight around midnight and bring back to Hyatt. But, worry that it is too far from the action and might end up spending an hour in traffic!
[/QUOTE]It is NOT that far away. Probably, you care about Scandallo - Hotel trip. Around midnight it will take 30-40 minutes, half of them spend on the small hillside streets around Scandallo.
Hotel inside is OK. Clean, but very simple. With very slippery floor. I am always afraid to fall once.
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[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;3016528]
I can get a presidential suite at Grand Hyatt through my points (Not that expensive with the points it seems), OR pay for Marriott executive apartments OR stay at the Presidential suite at Bourbon / Wyndham in Ibirapuera.
I am liking the Grand Hyatt the most based on online pictures of the Presidential suite. But, it seems TOO FAR from scandallo (the place where I can see myself spending most time in the evenings). Is the traffic too bad in evening time? My directional plan is to have 1-2 sessions in Scandallo itself (seems like they have attached hotel -- how good is it? And then pick a girl for overnight around midnight and bring back to Hyatt. But, worry that it is too far from the action and might end up spending an hour in traffic!
?[/QUOTE]We stayed at the Grand Hyatt on our last trip and here are my thoughts on it:
1) it is far from Scandello but nothing crazy. If you want to get there by 7 pm for cheaper entry, you need to leave no later than 545 pm and choose the TAXI option on your uber app. Taxis are allowed to use the omnibus lane to fly thru traffic and Ubers are not allowed to.
2) On the way back home, it is about 30-40 minutes since there is zero traffic and the drivers drive pretty fast.
3) the room is awesome and it does create a feeling with the girls to try to charge you more so be careful especially since you don't speak Portuguese.
4) the area around the hotel is boring. It isn't really walkable and it doesn't have any restaurants or shops. I prefer to stay at the Renaissance which has a great neighborhood to walk to restaurants and shops.
Can't say anything about the other hotels.
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[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;3016528]Hey guys. I am nearly finalized for my first trip to Sao Paulo next week. Will be there for about a week. I am a bit of a high baller when it comes to experience when on vacation ....[/QUOTE]Two things:
1) Encourage you to look at SocratesNY's reports. He has written a lot on hotels, as well as there's a 'Hotel's in Brazil' thread.
2) PLEASE do a report write up. There are WAYYYYY to many guys who have 200-300 posts and all they ever do is ask questions. They don't give back to the community. Don't be that guy.
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[QUOTE=Anaggie;3016639]We stayed at the Grand Hyatt on our last trip and here are my thoughts on it:
1) it is far from Scandello but nothing crazy. If you want to get there by 7 pm for cheaper entry, you need to leave no later than 545 pm and choose the TAXI option on your uber app. Taxis are allowed to use the omnibus lane to fly thru traffic and Ubers are not allowed to.
2) On the way back home, it is about 30-40 minutes since there is zero traffic and the drivers drive pretty fast.
3) the room is awesome and it does create a feeling with the girls to try to charge you more so be careful especially since you don't speak Portuguese.
4) the area around the hotel is boring. It isn't really walkable and it doesn't have any restaurants or shops. I prefer to stay at the Renaissance which has a great neighborhood to walk to restaurants and shops.
Can't say anything about the other hotels.[/QUOTE]Point 3 is spot on, been there and done that LOL. They will ask for tips almost always.
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I searched all possible threads and I couldn't find any information on that. Does anyone has info on girl-friendliness of any of them? I'm looking at one called Hotel Augusta Boulevard. I might've stayed there 15-20 years ago but am not sure. I'm open to any of them but they got to be close to Casaro's side of Avenida Paulista. I'd appreciate whatever info anyone has on any of them. PM, if you feel more comfortable.
Thanks in advance.
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Tipping Culture
[QUOTE=ThisOneFs1;3016233]Visited SP again around June 2nd week.
Had great 2 visits to Yankin and Miruna. Ended up tipping 50 extra to all 4 girls as I really enjoyed the BBBJ and GFE. All were in 25 to 32 age range and 5-7 range only in my opinion.[/QUOTE]Brazil is not America or Europe, you don't need to tip the girls anything for their great 'services', that's what they are supposed to do. I can't and am not trying to tell anyone how to spend their money. But my RECOMMENDATION is not to tip. The only time you should offer a tip is if you want some special services, such as anal sex, CIM and swallow, etc. Thank god, it seems this tipping thing doesn't occur very often as so far no girl has asked me for any tips after the session.
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My comparison of Scandallo to FKKs
[URL] https://www.reddit.com/r/FkkSaunaClubs/s/CoVDTbrziE[/URL]
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Comprehensive and Accurate
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3017086][URL] https://www.reddit.com/r/FkkSaunaClubs/s/CoVDTbrziE[/URL][/QUOTE]Had to make an account to read it but only took a second with my burner phone number. This is definitely the most comprehensive account of Scandallo compared to FKK to date. Well written, including brief summaries of the girl encounters. Really complete overview. Great job and thanks.
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Comparison with FKKs
Interesting comparison.
Let me add my grain of salt as I'm just back from three visits to FKK Oase: FKKs are in free fall. The trend is down, down. This is different from Scandallo from what I've read, with both line-up and service are as good as ever.
I'm done with FKKs. In that sense I've changed my tune, for until not so long ago I was still advocating FKKs as on a par with Scandallo/Brazil.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;3017198]Had to make an account to read it but only took a second with my burner phone number. This is definitely the most comprehensive account of Scandallo compared to FKK to date. Well written, including brief summaries of the girl encounters. Really complete overview. Great job and thanks.[/QUOTE]Just arrived to Sao Paulo. If you want to do multiple hours with a girl at Scandallo, say 2 or 3, is there a discount they offer or at that point I guess they expect you to just take her out for the night? If you do take her out for the night, are there short time hotels close by? I am not a fan of girls sleeping in my bed.
Also, I hear Scandallo is best during the week and falls off on the weekend, I am a weekend warrior type of guy, I'll still save my Scandallo nights for Wed or Thurs. What are the best boates for Friday and Saturday?
Besides the legendary boates, termas, and clinicas of Sao Paulo, is there anything else to do in the city in terms of partying and mongering?
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Scandallo lived up to it's hype
Thanks to this forum, I was able to successfully plan and execute my first trip to Brazil.
Scandallo was amazing, beautiful women, huge LU 150+ girls, top of the line club. I loved the live music and bands, really good premium addition.
I stayed at Transamerica Executive Paulista Ave, the hotel location was very convenient, there is a mall opposite with McD, KFC, Subway, Starbucks, Pizza which took care of my food needs. Bradesco Bank down the street with in-lobby ATM for cash needs. I only drank bottled water that I bought from souvenir stores / stalls nearby. There is another shopping centre close by with TIM store in case someone needs a SIM. I got international roaming and Google Fi on my burner and all worked fine.
[B]Girls[/B]
In Scandallo, I roomed with 7 girls in 3 days.
Room 1 - Flavia.
I was sitting at the restaurant after ordering, waiting for my food to come and plenty of girls were eyeing me, checking me out, My eyes locked with a tall white girl, she walked past me and I signaled her to come over and sit with me, she said no English, I'm like doesn't matter. We google translated, she was Brazilian with a Polish parents, 25 yo, she was wearing a really low cut top that extended up to her stomach. One tattoo flower rose on her left part of the chest and shoulder. Pretty face kinda looked like Samara weaving, very pretty face, 180 cm tall. Black eyes, black hair, white skin, very slim, A cup boobs. She told me she worked in sales before. I was eating my food while she held my hand, kissing and caressing me. I bought her of couple drinks. Stared into each other's eyes flirted back and forth and kissed. I didn't even negotiate the service, just asked to room with her.
Off to the reception, she asked me to wait, while she got her bag, I thought it'll be like a small purse like FKK girls instead she brings out a huge duffle bag like we're going on a trip LOL. We climb the stairs to the hotel reception, get the key card, go in the room. We shared a shower, then fucked, amazing service, I finished inside the condom and we both showered again, got dressed. Paid her 1200 and back to return the hotel keys and paid there 340. Damage 1540460.
We exchanged phone numbers in case I'd like to call her to my hotel.
Room 2 - Victoria.
I was walking in the gardens and I bumped into this young bubbly girl showing some cleavage, she spoke English. I just said let's go in the room, off we went, same process. I thought I won't be able to get hard again because I just blew a huge load. But this girl knew what to do. She started with amazing DFK and softly held my dick. I started getting hard and she gently held my dick just enough pressure for an erection. She didn't shy from DFK very consistent and didn't pull away until I was rock hard. Expert level shit, she knew what she was doing. 2 minutes I was rock hard and inside her.
Fucked again, filled the condom again, showered, paid, exited. 1540460.
Not a room but Party. Geysa.
I was completely drained, got a table in the night club area, got a drink. A chubby Brazilian girl comes up to me, she spoke great English. She sat, I bought her a couple drinks, we talked for an hour, danced and partied together, the live band was playing ACDC you shook me all night long and we both were dancing and singing, even did lip kissing. She showed me a few moves of Brazilian Samba and told me about famous customers of the club like football players of Real Madrid. The passion for Brazilians to have sex. Married men in a sexless marriage that come to the club seeking company of prostitutes, yup men are still the same half way across the world LOL 😂. Taboo of the society against working girls and jealous wives who blame.
She tells me there were 600 girls and 2000 men who visit the club in and out throughout the opening hours of the club per day, I think she was exaggerating a bit but who knows. Many girls don't make any money for the whole day. Some girls make a fortune. All the same like FKKs.
She stayed for a long time with me and also came back whenever we bumped into each other. I paid for 300 BRLs tip even though I didn't room with her, she expected nothing though she was so nice, we exchanged numbers for next time. Damage 300460.
Room 3 - Julia.
Blonde girl, the cup natural tits, pretty face, little chubby. She used to work at another club cafe photo and came to Scandallo a week ago. Talked for a bit, took her to the room. Great service 1200460.
Room 4 - Bad room.
This girl had blue eyes, brunette hair, white skin, natural tits the cup she's from Curitiba, slavic Russian look. Bought her a drink, negotiated a room. In the room, she wasted sometime showering before, after a little bit of fucking, she starts complaining, it's paining etc, switched to BJ but she only did CBJ huge turn off. Then after 30 minutes she said time is finished because need to shower. I was furious and quickly put on my clothes and rushed to the reception with the keys and complained that she did only half time. They called the manager and an english translator. I explained the situation, the girl walks out nearly after 20 minutes. The end result is that I pay half price 600 + room rent 340. Her behavior looked like she's taking advantage of non-porto speaking innocent tourist, good thing she met me and learned her lesson.
[B]Pro Tip : [/B] Don't be afraid to escalate to the managers, they're on your side.
Later on, I started talking to another girl and 2 different girls walk to her and explain something in Portuguese. They said I paid less for the room and she should avoid me. But she didn't care, 2 different sides of the story.
Room 5 - Duda.
This blonde girl. Duda, Latin looks, I saw her kissing another man yesterday. Two girls come up to me at the bar and I choose the blonde girl Eduarda or Duda for short. She sits with me, has a drink and out of nowhere she sticks her tongue down my throat and I love it, full blown DFK. She knew what she was doing, kissing to get me hard. Off to the room, she was great, passionate, awesome, great fuck. 1200460.
Room 6 - Deisi.
This cute redhead was busy yesterday but was available today, so when I saw her I grabbed her. Her friend spoke English but Deizi only spoke Portuguese. Google translate, bought her a drink, little bit of chit chat and off to the room. She was so young, pretty, natural looking. Great service. 1500460.
Room 7 - Natalia.
Blue eyes, blue earrings to match, big natural tits with tan lines, white skin, slavic Russian looking, 24 yo. We sat together at the nightclub listening to the live band and singing along, she was holding my hand and it was awesome. I didn't think I had the energy to room after two 1 H sessions but I had to have her. In the room, great service, did everything, her ass was round and bubble butt. Awesome sex. 1500460.
[B]Scandallo Pricing[/B]
[LIST]340/H room rent[/LIST][LIST]1200/H for the girls[/LIST][LIST]400 cover entry fee before 7pm all applied towards consumption[/LIST]
I also did go to Casarao, the cover fee was maybe 60 Idk, it's just a big hall with crowd, quality of the girls is low. Found a girl with big natural tits and had to go with her and took her to the adjacent love hotel. The rooms are quite run down, I guess it's the type of place where you bring girl back to your hotel. The girl was passionate and amazing, tried every bit to get me hard but I was fucked out on the last day after doing three 1 H rooms at Scandallo, just laid and slept on her tits. 400430.
Honestly, I feel if someone's hopping on a long-haul flight to Brazil, they have the coin and aren't interested in Casarao type of places.
My personal style is to go room after room at Scandallo instead of bringing back the girl to my hotel because given there are 150+ girls waiting to be fucked in Scandallo, why would I waste time with just 1 girl?
[B]Civilian Stuff[/B]
[LIST] Terraco Italia, I went to this rooftop restaurant, the views over Sao Paulo skyline are amazing. The 3-course meal for 168 was amazing. I'd recommend this between the sessions[/LIST][LIST] MASP. Good impressionist paintings by Monet, small museum but definitely good to kill a few hours[/LIST][LIST] SESC Paulista Ave. This is another high rise building to get views. Honestly wasn't that great.[/LIST]
Can you guys recommend more Civilian stuff to do in the mornings?
[B]Logistics[/B]
[LIST]https://scandallolounge.com.br/[/LIST][LIST]Best times to visit, Tues - Thurs after 9pm. Peaks at midnight. Special events with guest DJs.[/LIST][LIST]Fly into GRU. Uber black for transportation everywhere.[/LIST][LIST]Use ATMs inside banks like Bradesco, other ATMs might have skimmers causing fraud, Scandallo has no ATMs and has credit card surcharge.[/LIST][LIST]Getting Brazilian phone number sim card requires CPF, prefer to use international roaming on your domestic sim for short trips.[/LIST][LIST]Most hotels are girlfriendly but do verify before booking. I stayed at Paulista Avenue which is the touristic hotspot. Plenty of things to shop, eat, dine around.[/LIST][LIST]Carry a 3-prong Brazilian travel adapter, although European plugs do work fine.[/LIST][LIST]The tap water is not safe to drink in Brazil. Bottled water all the way.[/LIST][LIST]Brazil is not that dangerous, use common sense and you'll be fine. Don't walk around in dark alleys at night and don't get pickpocketed during the day as a jetlagged tourist.[/LIST][LIST]Carry a burner phone with working sim just in case iPhone gets stolen by the bikers.[/LIST][LIST]Learn a few phrases of Portuguese, it'll go a long way in Brazil both in Civilian time and non-Civilian time.[/LIST]
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You need to try FKK Sharks
[QUOTE=XXL;3017199]Interesting comparison.
FKKs are in free fall. The trend is down, down. This is different from Scandallo from what I've read, with both line-up and service are as good as ever.
I'm done with FKKs. In that sense I've changed my tune, for until not so long ago I was still advocating FKKs as on a par with Scandallo/Brazil.[/QUOTE]I don't blame you man, Scandallo is really very nice.
But if you've never been, you need to go to FKK Sharks. Their LU is huge 150+ beautiful women [B]naked[/B], amenities are amazing, hot tub, sauna, professional massage, swimming pool, food. If you find the right girls, you'll be in heaven.
BTW I love Oase swimming pool and the outdoor area is amazing too, the girls are a bit of a problem.
FKK Globe has great service but the LU is small, girls are ugly bimbos and the pretty girls often reject you based on their mood. Plus their reservation system, effectively hides the popular girls from LU, functioning like an escort agency.
FKK Wellcum has a nice modern club and amenities but the girls are childish and shit in behavior. Though it's location amongst the mountains make for a good resort style vacation.
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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3017214]Just arrived to Sao Paulo. If you want to do multiple hours with a girl at Scandallo, say 2 or 3, is there a discount they offer or at that point I guess they expect you to just take her out for the night? If you do take her out for the night, are there short time hotels close by? I am not a fan of girls sleeping in my bed.
Also, I hear Scandallo is best during the week and falls off on the weekend, I am a weekend warrior type of guy, I'll still save my Scandallo nights for Wed or Thurs. What are the best boates for Friday and Saturday?
Besides the legendary boates, termas, and clinicas of Sao Paulo, is there anything else to do in the city in terms of partying and mongering?[/QUOTE]There is a lot of detail in the forum on this. I suggest posts by Annagie and / or SocratesNY as well as links to posts of distinction.
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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3017214] at that point I guess they expect you to just take her out for the night? If you do take her out for the night, are there short time hotels close by?[/QUOTE]You can google it. Or ask the girl to take you and let her do the talking. The taxi waiting outside the boate can also take you. Tochka has written detail reports on love motel. You can look up his posts.
If you enjoy food or drinks, there are plenty restaurants and bars you can go. Republica is similar to Lapa. You will see many locals partying there.
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Many places in São Paulo
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3017214]Just arrived to Sao Paulo. If you want to do multiple hours with a girl at Scandallo, say 2 or 3, is there a discount they offer or at that point I guess they expect you to just take her out for the night? If you do take her out for the night, are there short time hotels close by? I am not a fan of girls sleeping in my bed.
Also, I hear Scandallo is best during the week and falls off on the weekend, I am a weekend warrior type of guy, I'll still save my Scandallo nights for Wed or Thurs. What are the best boates for Friday and Saturday?
Besides the legendary boates, termas, and clinicas of Sao Paulo, is there anything else to do in the city in terms of partying and mongering?[/QUOTE]There are many places to party hearty in sao paulo. Use instagram, type in sao paulo or sao paulo boate. See a list of hundreds of scantily dressed instagram models, sexy garotas and dozens of "influencers" trying to get you and your $$ in their clubs. They always post top 10 places for in sao paulo for dinner, hot clubs, music hiphop, trap, old school, sambo, karoke, concert, dirty dancing or swingy clubs such as hotbar, innerclub, engima, top 10 love motels whatever floats your boat. My go to spot for the exotic experiences Love Cabaret. Tokyo Bar for private karaoke with garotas. Vitrinni Lounge. , 57 friends chanes for afterwork hangout bar for the moema clinicas garotas. Note these are civilians places. You can find dozens of straight up garotas pickup boates for whoring on gpguia. Search Casas Noturnas. Boates - SP boates.
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[QUOTE=Tochka;3017483]There are many places to party hearty in sao paulo. Use instagram, type in sao paulo or sao paulo boate. See a list of hundreds of scantily dressed instagram models, sexy garotas and dozens of "influencers" trying to get you and your $$ in their clubs. They always post top 10 places for in sao paulo for dinner, hot clubs, music hiphop, trap, old school, sambo, karoke, concert, dirty dancing or swingy clubs such as hotbar, innerclub, engima, top 10 love motels whatever floats your boat. My go to spot for the exotic experiences Love Cabaret. Tokyo Bar for private karaoke with garotas. Vitrinni Lounge. , 57 friends chanes for afterwork hangout bar for the moema clinicas garotas. Note these are civilians places. You can find dozens of straight up garotas pickup boates for whoring on gpguia. Search Casas Noturnas. Boates - SP boates.[/QUOTE]Thanks for all the replies. Sao Paulo may be most secure city on earth. Gated entry communities everywhere, kind of feels like Miami in that sense. Expensive but high quality so far. Steak houses no joke. Will report back with much data on my findings in a few days. I feel like a kid on Christmas eve waiting to enter Scandallo later in the week kkkk. Hit a few of the smaller boates up and they are fancy and impressive, but pricey. In terms of the people, its spot on with the North East USA attitude, very different from the friendliness in Rio.
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Sunday Afternoon at Prime
Based on friends recommendation, saw Nadia at Prime on a Sunday afternoon right after landing from week in Rio. Great body and service. Nice BJ followed by sex with her on top. Pleasant attitude. Had massage before round two which was also great. Left happy and ready to enjoy the SP part of my trip.
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57 Friends and Miruna
After nice afternoon session at Miruna where I had two pops over an hour, I noticed a Garoua at 57 Friends I had my eye on. Arrived around 5 pm to see Tokio but was still a bit spent from time at Miruna. She was great but I think we both sensed a round two was going to be a lot of work and just relaxed. I plan to head back to see her when less exhausted. Cool place and nice to hang out with friends in the evening. Drink prices reasonable.
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Excellent report, I need to get back to Sao Paolo ASAP
Okswimmer
Scandallo lived up to it's hype
Thanks to this forum, I was able to successfully plan and execute my first trip to Brazil.
Scandallo was amazing, beautiful women, huge LU 150+ girls, top of the line club. I loved the live music and bands, really good premium addition.
Great read, like a penthouse forum, tempting me to look for a flight back as I haven't been since 2019, but living in Medellin aint so bad either, but I do need to find time to get back to Brazil for some fun and variety.
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Guide for Medellin
[QUOTE=MaxLee88;3017807]living in Medellin aint so bad either[/QUOTE]Thanks for reading. I want to try Medellin but I don't know how to get started. Can you provide a mini-guide for beginner friendly places in Medellin? Since it's my first time I want to go to straight forward places (e. G. Scandallo in Brazil very straight forward or FKK Sharks in Germany) which are good, clean, pretty girls, good service, less scams, danger etc. Money is not an issue.
I don't know if they have clubs like that in Colombia. And whatever research I did on ISG Colombia forum pointed to searching for girls on FB and then building a network. It's not straight forward because it seems sketchy and scammy. I don't know who's going to show up, if the girl is like her pics or not? Will she scopolamine me and steal everything? I'm a newbie but how do advanced mongers do their due diligence?
If you can give small concise write-up with logistics tips similar to what I did for Brazil it'll save sometime for research or link me to a guide if it exists.
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[QUOTE=XXL;3017199]Interesting comparison.
Let me add my grain of salt as I'm just back from three visits to FKK Oase: FKKs are in free fall. The trend is down, down. This is different from Scandallo from what I've read, with both line-up and service are as good as ever.
I'm done with FKKs. In that sense I've changed my tune, for until not so long ago I was still advocating FKKs as on a par with Scandallo/Brazil.[/QUOTE]Germany is going down, that's unfortunately true. After Covid the Club scene never recovered. Plus the political environment (left-green-feminist) is very much antagonistic. However, Switzerland and Austria (Wellcum) are still top notch. In fact, 1200 BRL in Scandallo is more expensive than clubs in in the Confoederatio Helvetica aka Switzerland.
Hard to believe but true. Added benefit: few places are safer than CH. You can walk about at night with your Omega watch and Ultra phone (or whatever) and won't get mugged.
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Prime lineup
[QUOTE=Gato1;3017785]Based on friends recommendation, saw Nadia at Prime on a Sunday afternoon right after landing from week in Rio. Great body and service. Nice BJ followed by sex with her on top. Pleasant attitude. Had massage before round two which was also great. Left happy and ready to enjoy the SP part of my trip.[/QUOTE]Nadia and Karen are well-reviewed on GPGuia. Nadia has another level with friendly repeat clients. With Nadia, if you ask, she can break out the strong ass "marola", plus let her choose her garota of choice (GoC) for a threesome.
Damn, she takes it to the next level. Bring her a small bottle of her favorite drink from Bar Salvador on the corner. She turns into a wild ass sexual tigress, unihabituated, everything goes, no limits, she has a next fvcking level that clicks in. Sheets. Don't know why Patty doesn't have bar drinks in there (shrug). Plus get the four hands "forista" discount with a confirmed review.
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Save your bullets. A. I. Is coming
According to latest reports, A. I. Girls are taking their market share from the adult industry, competing directly with real models.
So, in the upcoming years, the talent that was considering OnlyF or other platforms to make good money, will have to go in the search for real live experiences. You know what I mean!
Save your bullets gents. Save them, I'm 25 years in the content creation market. Why do I post it here in the SP forum? Because there are thousands of cuties on privacy. Com. Br that will be hit by this A. I wave.
Attached a good example. That blonde is an A. I. , it took me a few minutes to confirm.
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[QUOTE=HiddenEye;3018148]According to latest reports, A. I. Girls are taking their market share from the adult industry, competing directly with real models.
<snip> Attached a good example. That blonde is an A. I. , it took me a few minutes to confirm.[/QUOTE]I am just curious. HiddenEye, how did you know this girl is AI?
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[URL]https://g1.globo.com/sp/bauru-marilia/noticia/2025/08/02/de-janio-quadros-a-vinicius-de-moraes-os-famosos-que-passaram-pela-mansao-de-eny-cezarino-o-maior-bordel-do-brasil.ghtml[/URL]
Interesting story about Eny's casa (blast from the past).
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A. I attack
Hi Axel, thanks for your reply. It's important in a much deeper way than we may think.
Look at how hard is to identify an a. I. Having passed only three years this technology is public available. (it was under development around 2018, the first library of a. I. Faces).
First and the more obvious, this leximorgan has a link on bouncy. Ai.
And the not so obvious. The face of this creature gives 242 similar faces on pimeyes, resembling many different "women". It's not 242 pics of the same person, it's all the way around.
So, I must say, 99% sure, this is an a. I.
Why your answer is so important?
Among the ones who will have a ground on real earth is us. The mongers.
That's something, real something for a while.
A revolution is underway, and I guess it will give us a lot of fun. Keep tuned.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3018217]I am just curious. HiddenEye, how did you know this girl is AI?[/QUOTE]
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I've been to Rio & SP one time, but it was during the last couple weeks of December. It turned out to be a bad timing for mongering because many didn't work during the holiday. As I've been planning for my next trip there, I have few questions for the SP experts here.
1) What are the best months to see the most women showing up for work at the night clubs? I want to see 150 -200 girls at Scandallo that many posters here have talked highly about. Is early September close to that level? (My personal experience tells me that the last two weeks of December and up to mid-January are probably the worst time to go there just for mongering. There were only 30+ women working at Scandallo. WTF!
2) I've been interested in the TRYP by Wyndham hotel in the Paraiso area because it seems more logistically center if I take into consideration of club Cafe Photos, Connection, Gauguin in addition to the popular ones like Scandallo, Bomboa, and Casaro. Paraiso appears to be a good area to walk around for shopping and dining because it's close to Paulista Ave. Right? Is TRYP a friendly hotel to bring in (or just sneak in) someone without being noticed or questioned?
3) Say you have a flight back home at 5:30 AM morning. You probably forego a hotel the last night and stay at a club until, say, 3:00 AM and go straight to the airport. The problem is that you can only leave your luggage at the hotel storage UP TO midnight, and they won't let you keep them there past midnight. Where would you recommend storing the luggage? Do all clubs let their customers store their luggage there? Which clubs allow that? Do they keep them in a safe and locked room or kind of in an open area under the counter? What would you do or suggest?
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1) Quicker to say when to avoid going there: from mid Dec to mid Jan, the 10th days in between Carnival, all months of July-Aug because is their winter and generally WG's go to the north for a better climate or travel to Europe.
2) Tryp is supposed to be guest-friendly but never been there. I recommend Hotel Cadoro, should be on the same tier price, for sure guest-friendly as many girls came to visit me LOL.
3) I did experienced to leave trolley and back-pack at Scandallo (inside just on the left of reception for check in / out) for 20 reais, at Connection for free (outside at the guy for parking), at Gauguin on first floor where you get the key for the room (not on ground floor where you enter for check in).
Appreciated to get a review after your trip.
[QUOTE=MoneySign;3018923]I've been to Rio & SP one time, but it was during the last couple weeks of December. It turned out to be a bad timing for mongering because many didn't work during the holiday. As I've been planning for my next trip there, I have few questions for the SP experts here.
1) What are the best months to see the most women showing up for work at the night clubs? I want to see 150 -200 girls at Scandallo that many posters here have talked highly about. Is early September close to that level? (My personal experience tells me that the last two weeks of December and up to mid-January are probably the worst time to go there just for mongering. There were only 30+ women working at Scandallo. WTF![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MoneySign;3018923]I've been to Rio & SP one time, but it was during the last couple weeks of December. It turned out to be a bad timing for mongering because many didn't work during the holiday. As I've been planning for my next trip there, I have few questions for the SP experts here.
1) What are the best months to see the most women showing up for work at the night clubs? I want to see 150 -200 girls at Scandallo that many posters here have talked highly about. Is early September close to that level? (My personal experience tells me that the last two weeks of December and up to mid-January are probably the worst time to go there just for mongering. There were only 30+ women working at Scandallo. WTF!
2) I've been interested in the TRYP by Wyndham hotel in the Paraiso area because it seems more logistically center if I take into consideration of club Cafe Photos, Connection, Gauguin in addition to the popular ones like Scandallo, Bomboa, and Casaro. Paraiso appears to be a good area to walk around for shopping and dining because it's close to Paulista Ave. Right? Is TRYP a friendly hotel to bring in (or just sneak in) someone without being noticed or questioned?
3) Say you have a flight back home at 5:30 AM morning. You probably forego a hotel the last night and stay at a club until, say, 3:00 AM and go straight to the airport. The problem is that you can only leave your luggage at the hotel storage UP TO midnight, and they won't let you keep them there past midnight. Where would you recommend storing the luggage? Do all clubs let their customers store their luggage there? Which clubs allow that? Do they keep them in a safe and locked room or kind of in an open area under the counter? What would you do or suggest?[/QUOTE]1) Keep in mind that Sept 5th weekend will be the NFL game and there will be a ton of girls all over SP but prices will be super high. Scandello will probably have 500+ girls every night during that weekend.
2) Can't comment.
3) You can keep your luggage with the bag check in Scandello and just leave to the airport from there at 230/3 am. I do it all the time for late night flights and it is super safe.
Do report back and write about your experience.
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Melia Paulista
Has anyone stayed at the Melia Paulista? I've stayed in the area before but wondering if anyone has tried this hotel before and knows if it is guest friendly?
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[QUOTE=Tochka;3017985]Nadia and Karen are well-reviewed on GPGuia. Nadia has another level with friendly repeat clients. With Nadia, if you ask, she can break out the strong ass "marola", plus let her choose her garota of choice (GoC) for a threesome.
[/QUOTE]Really can't go wrong with these two. The best threesomes I had were with Nadia and Valentina (branca / retired). And and V look like twin sisters. I also had threesomes with Karen and a different Valentina (preta / active elsewhere).
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MILF receptionist
Story time:
One decade ago, a stunning woman in her late 20's was working at the "scandalous" nightclub near that historic park. She later got married and took a job as a receptionist at a clinica often discussed on this forum.
Fast forward to today, two kids later, She just shared with me that she's left her husband and is ready to get back in the game. She quoted me very reasonable prices, which has me seriously tempted.
For those who've been around long enough, has she made similar offers to you? Just curious. Am I her special man or is she whoring around already? Haha.
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Led in 2 tempation
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3019936]Story time:
One decade ago, a stunning woman in her late 20's was working at the "scandalous" nightclub near that historic park. She later got married and took a job as a receptionist at a clinica often discussed on this forum.
Fast forward to today, two kids later, She just shared with me that she's left her husband and is ready to get back in the game. She quoted me very reasonable prices, which has me seriously tempted.
For those who've been around long enough, has she made similar offers to you? Just curious. Am I her special man or is she whoring around already? Haha.[/QUOTE]I like your style. There is a youngish, cutey former cashier from a scandalous place that I am seeing on the side. You know, drunk flirting with the second-floor cashiers is a lot of fun. Kkkkk but they cycle through the downstairs cashiers and the coat check girls pretty fast.
It's been an interesting experience checking off the bucket list of different female staff. Most are mature women on purpose.
For clinicas, many of the Moema receptionists are named in GPGUIA. Bros want the foristas discount and giving a shout out to receptionist in reviews keeps you in good standing.
ProTip: The Instagram followers of Moema receptionists has been a fvcking gold mine for after-hours fun, private DM, friendly invite only parties or to chat when garota changes Wassap number or their iPhone is stolen (again) or name changes again Rsrs.
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[QUOTE=Tochka;3020118]I like your style. There is a youngish, cutey former cashier from a scandalous place that I am seeing on the side. You know, drunk flirting with the second-floor cashiers is a lot of fun. Kkkkk but they cycle through the downstairs cashiers and the coat check girls pretty fast.
It's been an interesting experience checking off the bucket list of different female staff. Most are mature women on purpose.
For clinicas, many of the Moema receptionists are named in GPGUIA. Bros want the foristas discount and giving a shout out to receptionist in reviews keeps you in good standing.
ProTip: The Instagram followers of Moema receptionists has been a fvcking gold mine for after-hours fun, private DM, friendly invite only parties or to chat when garota changes Wassap number or their iPhone is stolen (again) or name changes again Rsrs.[/QUOTE]Bro, you speak my language. I know which exactly second-floor cashier you were talking about. She is fine AF in those black leather pants. Do you know if she works on the side?
But the former scandalous MILF is working in a different barrio, M-S. She often has some shitty attitude to new gringos. She treats ME well with some occasional tips / gifts.
Also, I will send you a DM for something.
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Miruna
Had great session with Amanda and immediately scheduled the next one on way out! Highly recommend.
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Prime
Had another couple of great threesomes at Prime this week. Great value! Schedule trisal (three girls) and really looking forward to it. Great place.
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[QUOTE=Gato1;3020504]Had another couple of great threesomes at Prime this week. Great value! Schedule trisal (three girls) and really looking forward to it. Great place.[/QUOTE]Hi,
I'm visiting in October and like the sound of Prime.
Can you confirm where it's located please I'm not getting definitive on Google.
Cheers.
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Temptations
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3020323]Bro, you speak my language. I know which exactly second-floor cashier you were talking about. She is fine AF in those black leather pants. Do you know if she works on the side?
But the former scandalous MILF is working in a different barrio, M-S. She often has some shitty attitude to new gringos. She treats ME well with some occasional tips / gifts.
Also, I will send you a DM for something.[/QUOTE]Kkk the black leather pants made me add her to the bucketlist to try out. There are two moema receptionists on my list. Hahaha one is a Exactly the same as yours kkkk for certain. Another one on a random evening during a garota happy hour threw out number for me to consider. She made a very reasonable offer, way much less than scandallo. I have been sitting on it for a month or two. Pondering. Not pulled the trigger yet. She wants to keep everything quiet and away from the garota gossip network.
Protip: if you are lucky enough to be in 57 friends chanes the evening the moemas garotas meet up for afterwork, happy hour & drinks, stripper pole dancing party and churrasco. I had no problem taking two of them upstairs for a threesome session. The other week was my third time taking clinicas garotas visting for drinks, upstairs for after after hours fun. Ymmv.
Don't know where they get the fvcking energy to bangout another session but they are liquored up with hot energy to release. In sexy clothes. Sizzle.
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[QUOTE=Tochka;3020561]Kkk the black leather pants made me add her to the bucketlist to try out. There are two moema receptionists on my list. Hahaha one is a Exactly the same as yours kkkk for certain. Another one on a random evening during.[/QUOTE]I've banged Moema receptionist S last year. She returned to her hometown in the SP interior. Sent you a DM too.
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I got mixed feelings about Wellcum. Food was great though.
[QUOTE=QueRico;3017892]Germany is going down, that's unfortunately true. After Covid the Club scene never recovered. Plus the political environment (left-green-feminist) is very much antagonistic. However, Switzerland and Austria (Wellcum) are still top notch. In fact, 1200 BRL in Scandallo is more expensive than clubs in in the Confoederatio Helvetica aka Switzerland.
Hard to believe but true. Added benefit: few places are safer than CH. You can walk about at night with your Omega watch and Ultra phone (or whatever) and won't get mugged.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=HarryMonk;3020547]Hi,
I'm visiting in October and like the sound of Prime.
Can you confirm where it's located please I'm not getting definitive on Google.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]It's Moema Prime on google map.
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Please explain what you mean by "kkk". I don't want to assume.
[QUOTE=Tochka;3020561]Kkk the black leather pants made me add her to the bucketlist to try out. There are two moema receptionists on my list. Hahaha one is a Exactly the same as yours kkkk for certain. Another one on a random evening during a garota happy hour threw out number for me to consider. She made a very reasonable offer, way much less than scandallo. I have been sitting on it for a month or two. Pondering. Not pulled the trigger yet. She wants to keep everything quiet and away from the garota gossip network.
Protip: if you are lucky enough to be in 57 friends chanes the evening the moemas garotas meet up for afterwork, happy hour & drinks, stripper pole dancing party and churrasco. I had no problem taking two of them upstairs for a threesome session. The other week was my third time taking clinicas garotas visting for drinks, upstairs for after after hours fun. Ymmv.
Don't know where they get the fvcking energy to bangout another session but they are liquored up with hot energy to release. In sexy clothes. Sizzle.[/QUOTE]
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Kkk and Rsrs
[QUOTE=PilotPete;3020921]Please explain what you mean by "kkk". I don't want to assume.[/QUOTE]Type those letters in google translate. Kkk and Rsrs.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;3020887]It's Moema Prime on google map.[/QUOTE]Found it, thanks.
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Got Scopolamined
A couple years ago I was in Sao Paulo and I got Scoped I was talking to a local made out with her next thing I know I woke up in the middle of sao Paulo with all my belongings gone. I want to go back because the P4P is unmatched. How should I go about it the next time. Should I just use the websites or is there clubs that have that service that are safe.
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Were you drinking something?
[QUOTE=BerserkerMN1;3021134]A couple years ago I was in Sao Paulo and I got Scoped I was talking to a local made out with her next thing I know I woke up in the middle of sao Paulo with all my belongings gone. [/QUOTE]Were you drinking something. Like a beer, or coke from a bottle etc?
If so, they put the pill in your drink whilst you were not looking.
Were you in a bar, club etc? Or did you invite her back to your place?
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Spiked
[QUOTE=Fudimaar;3021204]Were you drinking something. Like a beer, or coke from a bottle etc?
If so, they put the pill in your drink whilst you were not looking.
Were you in a bar, club etc? Or did you invite her back to your place?[/QUOTE]Yea I was it was because she grabbed a drink for me which was dumb of me. Is there establishments there where that stuff don't happen.
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[QUOTE=BerserkerMN1;3021366]Yea I was it was because she grabbed a drink for me which was dumb of me. Is there establishments there where that stuff don't happen.[/QUOTE]The drugging is done by the individual, not by the establishment. Therefore, no one can tell you "Establishment XYZ is safe from drugging. ".
Please don't go to Colombia. You'll be a sitting duck there, as scopolomina drugging there is far more prevalent than in Brazil.
Stay safe.
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[QUOTE=BerserkerMN1;3021366]Yea I was it was because she grabbed a drink for me which was dumb of me. Is there establishments there where that stuff don't happen.[/QUOTE]The risk is always there, be very very watchful and careful.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;3021441]The risk is always there, be very very watchful and careful.[/QUOTE]There is zero risk of this sort of thing happening inside a SP boate or clinica, but if you are the least bit worried about what might happen with an independent bar pickup or escort, have your girl show her ID to hotel security before going to your room. Not minimizing what the OP experienced, it must have been horrible, but the moral of the story is stay away from girls in sleazy bars and if you are drawn to such places, drink from the bottle, don't get drunk, and pay attention to what's going on.
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Sao Paulo Reports
How I view Sao Paulo. Basically I think the easiest way to break Sao Paulo down is using a Three Tier System. For this I am just referring to Boates or night clubs with free lance girls.
Tier 1: Scandallo. Scandallo is best. In short, if you have the budget and you can spend 500 to 600 USD a night and not break your bank, just go to Scandallo. Girls will usually settle for $1200 Brazil. Plus the room and drinks and figure your going to spend a few hundred. Its the best boate in Brazil and the other boates in Sao Paulo are basically just as expensive. Most of the boates on these tiers are very high end and classy. Dress to impress as if you were going to a fancy night club. Don't show up in jeans, a t shirt and flip flops. This is not Pattaya or Sosua. For me personally, they are a bit too classy and I prefer a bit more raunchiness. Many of these girls will basically expect you to act mostly like a gentleman until you get to the room. Some light making out and dancing is fine to vet the girls, but do not expect them to be acting like classless working girls like in a bar in Pattaya. That is not how these places are set up. I have also had girls who did not give me full GFE when I got back to the room, so be aware that is a possibility. And for the girls who didn't give me the best session, I still always felt satisfied just due to how beautiful they were.
Tier 2: Bomboa, Bahamas, Cafe Photo, Guaghin. I may be missing one or two more. So all of these clubs and very nicely set up as well. Live music, friendly staff, and yes they are basically just as expensive as Scandallo. Girls will usually settle on $1000 Brazil and the rooms are around 350 Brazil I think. All of these places are also 400 to 500 Brazil just to get in and most of that goes toward consumption. The drinks are just as expensive as the drinks in Scandallo as well. The big difference is, these places have less girls and less customers, but the girls are still very very beautiful. Of the tier 2 boates, Bomboa is the best, but strangely also the smallest. It fills up with girls and customers so expect a crowd.
Warning: So I have a threesome at Bomboa and I am drinking extra strength redbull with them in the room, wink wink, and one of the girls robbed me of around 1500 Brazil out of my wallet when I wasn't looking. I had let my guard down because we were in a boate and I didn't expect it. So of course I go to management and basically they say there is nothing they can do to prove it because the girls are denying it and it may have been one girl and the other girl really had nothing to do with it. Anyway they tell me next time I go I ll get free drinks or what ever. Hopefully they black list those girls as well. I will not be going back to Bomboa, but I must say I still recommend the place as I had some really good nights there. Just be careful shit can still go down in these boates.
Tier 3: Zeus, 57 friends, Ceasaro. So in my opinion, Zeus is just a waste of time, the place is surprisingly expensive and the girls are not very attractive compared to the other boates. Skip Zeus. 57 friends can be a decent warm up spot and its cheaper to drink at than the boates, but the girls are really not that attractive, so for me personally I didn't like the place too much, but again cheap drinks so its a nice place to warm up. Ceasaro is a great late night spot and cheap to pick girls up. Its basically a club with free lancers and you can find some attractive girls in here. I think its only 60 or 80 Brazil to get in too. Its also a younger crowd in terms of customers. Most girls will be down leave for around 400 or 500 Brazil.
Personal Tip: If you don't speak Portuguese, save your self some money and have a few drinks before you enter the boate. Drinking all night in these places can really add up fast. Also, I can't stress this enough, just skip everything and go to Scandallo. Especially if its a short trip. The other boates are very nice and fun too, but Scandallo really is a step above them and its about the same price. If your in Sao Paulo and you want the high end, its worth it to spend a few extra bucks and just go to Scandallo.
As for the debate on Rio vs Sao Paulo. I clearly prefer Rio over Sao Paulo due to price and the great service from the girls, but Sao Paulo girls in terms of looks are top notch. I am sure some people who know the ins and out of Sao Paulo know of cheaper places with good service, but me for me Rio clearly wins.
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SP high end secret catalogue?
I remember someone mentioning a "high end" catalogue of influencers / models in SP; there was an upfront fee (like 1000 R) just to access the catalogue, and then the girls charge like 5-10 K reais. Does anyone have more info about this please?
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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3021481]
Warning: So I have a threesome at Bomboa and I am drinking extra strength redbull with them in the room, wink wink, and one of the girls robbed me of around 1500 Brazil out of my wallet when I wasn't looking. I had let my guard down because we were in a boate and I didn't expect it. So of course I go to management and basically they say there is nothing they can do to prove it because the girls are denying it and it may have been one girl and the other girl really had nothing to do with it. Anyway they tell me next time I go I ll get free drinks or what ever. Hopefully they black list those girls as well. I will not be going back to Bomboa, but I must say I still recommend the place as I had some really good nights there. Just be careful shit can still go down in these boates.
Tier 3: Zeus, 57 friends, Ceasaro. So in my opinion, Zeus is just a waste of time, the place is surprisingly expensive and the girls are not very attractive compared to the other boates. Skip Zeus. 57 friends can be a decent warm up spot and its cheaper to drink at than the boates, but the girls are really not that attractive, so for me personally I didn't like the place too much, but again cheap drinks so its a nice place to warm up. Ceasaro is a great late night spot and cheap to pick girls up. Its basically a club with free lancers and you can find some attractive girls in here. I think its only 60 or 80 Brazil to get in too. Its also a younger crowd in terms of customers. Most girls will be down leave for around 400 or 500 Brazil.
Personal Tip: If you don't speak Portuguese, save your self some money and have a few drinks before you enter the boate. Drinking all night in these places can really add up fast. Also, I can't stress this enough, just skip everything and go to Scandallo. Especially if its a short trip. The other boates are very nice and fun too, but Scandallo really is a step above them and its about the same price. If your in Sao Paulo and you want the high end, its worth it to spend a few extra bucks and just go to Scandallo.
As for the debate on Rio vs Sao Paulo. I clearly prefer Rio over Sao Paulo due to price and the great service from the girls, but Sao Paulo girls in terms of looks are top notch. I am sure some people who know the ins and out of Sao Paulo know of cheaper places with good service, but me for me Rio clearly wins.[/QUOTE]Great insight. I have been coming to SP regularly for last few years and your points are spot on.
Sorry to hear about girl stealing from you and guess we all have to be careful.
Love the beach vibe in Rio but think SP just offers more venues and girls in my opinon. And, I just don't feel safe in Rio.
I am in SP this week so feel free to reach out if anyone wants hang out.
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Ceasaro??
Where is Ceasaro located? I tied multiple google searches. Thank you.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3021481]How I view Sao Paulo. Basically I think the easiest way to break Sao Paulo down is using a Three Tier System. For this I am just referring to Boates or night clubs with free lance girls.
Tier 1: Scandallo. Scandallo is best. In short, if you have the budget and you can spend 500 to 600 USD a night and not break your bank, just go to Scandallo. Girls will usually settle for $1200 Brazil. Plus the room and drinks and figure your going to spend a few hundred. Its the best boate in Brazil and the other boates in Sao Paulo are basically just as expensive. Most of the boates on these tiers are very high end and classy. Dress to impress as if you were going to a fancy night club. Don't show up in jeans, a t shirt and flip flops. This is not Pattaya or Sosua. For me personally, they are a bit too classy and I prefer a bit more raunchiness. Many of these girls will basically expect you to act mostly like a gentleman until you get to the room. Some light making out and dancing is fine to vet the girls, but do not expect them to be acting like classless working girls like in a bar in Pattaya. That is not how these places are set up. I have also had girls who did not give me full GFE when I got back to the room, so be aware that is a possibility. And for the girls who didn't give me the best session, I still always felt satisfied just due to how beautiful they were.
Tier 2: Bomboa, Bahamas, Cafe Photo, Guaghin. I may be missing one or two more. So all of these clubs and very nicely set up as well. Live music, friendly staff, and yes they are basically just as expensive as Scandallo. Girls will usually settle on $1000 Brazil and the rooms are around 350 Brazil I think. All of these places are also 400 to 500 Brazil just to get in and most of that goes toward consumption. The drinks are just as expensive as the drinks in Scandallo as well. The big difference is, these places have less girls and less customers, but the girls are still very very beautiful. Of the tier 2 boates, Bomboa is the best, but strangely also the smallest. It fills up with girls and customers so expect a crowd.
Warning: So I have a threesome at Bomboa and I am drinking extra strength redbull with them in the room, wink wink, and one of the girls robbed me of around 1500 Brazil out of my wallet when I wasn't looking. I had let my guard down because we were in a boate and I didn't expect it. So of course I go to management and basically they say there is nothing they can do to prove it because the girls are denying it and it may have been one girl and the other girl really had nothing to do with it. Anyway they tell me next time I go I ll get free drinks or what ever. Hopefully they black list those girls as well. I will not be going back to Bomboa, but I must say I still recommend the place as I had some really good nights there. Just be careful shit can still go down in these boates.
Tier 3: Zeus, 57 friends, Ceasaro. So in my opinion, Zeus is just a waste of time, the place is surprisingly expensive and the girls are not very attractive compared to the other boates. Skip Zeus. 57 friends can be a decent warm up spot and its cheaper to drink at than the boates, but the girls are really not that attractive, so for me personally I didn't like the place too much, but again cheap drinks so its a nice place to warm up. Ceasaro is a great late night spot and cheap to pick girls up. Its basically a club with free lancers and you can find some attractive girls in here. I think its only 60 or 80 Brazil to get in too. Its also a younger crowd in terms of customers. Most girls will be down leave for around 400 or 500 Brazil.
Personal Tip: If you don't speak Portuguese, save your self some money and have a few drinks before you enter the boate. Drinking all night in these places can really add up fast. Also, I can't stress this enough, just skip everything and go to Scandallo. Especially if its a short trip. The other boates are very nice and fun too, but Scandallo really is a step above them and its about the same price. If your in Sao Paulo and you want the high end, its worth it to spend a few extra bucks and just go to Scandallo.
As for the debate on Rio vs Sao Paulo. I clearly prefer Rio over Sao Paulo due to price and the great service from the girls, but Sao Paulo girls in terms of looks are top notch. I am sure some people who know the ins and out of Sao Paulo know of cheaper places with good service, but me for me Rio clearly wins.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3021506]Great insight. I have been coming to SP regularly for last few years and your points are spot on.
Sorry to hear about girl stealing from you and guess we all have to be careful.
Love the beach vibe in Rio but think SP just offers more venues and girls in my opinon. And, I just don't feel safe in Rio.
I am in SP this week so feel free to reach out if anyone wants hang out.[/QUOTE]Your right, I should re phrase my Rio vs Sao Paulo comment. If you have the budget, Sao Paulo is better. But I think the city where you get a better bang for your buck is Rio. My budget fits Rio a little better. Had some good times at 4 x4 for a lot less than I have been paying in SP.
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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3021481]How I view Sao Paulo. Basically I think the easiest way to break Sao Paulo down is using a Three Tier System. For this I am just referring to Boates or night clubs with free lance girls.
Tier 1: Scandallo. Scandallo is best. In short, if you have the budget and you can spend 500 to 600 USD a night and not break your bank, just go to Scandallo. Girls will usually settle for $1200 Brazil. Plus the room and drinks and figure your going to spend a few hundred. Its the best boate in Brazil and the other boates in Sao Paulo are basically just as expensive. Most of the boates on these tiers are very high end and classy. Dress to impress as if you were going to a fancy night club. Don't show up in jeans, a t shirt and flip flops. This is not Pattaya or Sosua. For me personally, they are a bit too classy and I prefer a bit more raunchiness. Many of these girls will basically expect you to act mostly like a gentleman until you get to the room. Some light making out and dancing is fine to vet the girls, but do not expect them to be acting like classless working girls like in a bar in Pattaya. That is not how these places are set up. I have also had girls who did not give me full GFE when I got back to the room, so be aware that is a possibility. And for the girls who didn't give me the best session, I still always felt satisfied just due to how beautiful they were.
As for the debate on Rio vs Sao Paulo. I clearly prefer Rio over Sao Paulo due to price and the great service from the girls, but Sao Paulo girls in terms of looks are top notch. I am sure some people who know the ins and out of Sao Paulo know of cheaper places with good service, but me for me Rio clearly wins.[/QUOTE]Great report. Sorry to hear about the girl taking the money. I always check all my pants before leaving the room to make sure I have everything. If something is missing, I would ask the girls about it and if I couldn't find it, I would call management to the room.
I also agree that Scandello is the best and the girls in São Paulo are definitely better looking vs Rio.
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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3021481]
Warning: So I have a threesome at Bomboa and I am drinking extra strength redbull with them in the room, wink wink, and one of the girls robbed me of around 1500 Brazil out of my wallet when I wasn't looking. I had let my guard down because we were in a boate and I didn't expect it. So of course I go to management and basically they say there is nothing they can do to prove it because the girls are denying it and it may have been one girl and the other girl really had nothing to do with it. Anyway they tell me next time I go I ll get free drinks or what ever. Hopefully they black list those girls as well. I will not be going back to Bomboa, but I must say I still recommend the place as I had some really good nights there. Just be careful shit can still go down in these boates.
[/QUOTE]Nice report, RamDavidson84.
I appreciate you letting us know about the unfortunate incident. It is a good remainder not to be complacent. I've never experienced such incidents in any P2 P places. As much as possible, I try to keep my clothes where they are visible when I am in shower / bathroom. This isn't always possible, like for example, in Clinica Prime, some rooms have hangers on a wall that aren't visible from shower. Still, I've never had anything stolen from there or any other clinicas. I guess the clinica girls are more honest than the ones you encountered. I believe the clinica management would take customer complaints more seriously than establishments like Bamboa.
Do you remember the names and description of the girls? Maybe I will setup and sting operation during my next trip to SP later this month 😀
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[QUOTE=Lalabo;3021543]Nice report, RamDavidson84.
I appreciate you letting us know about the unfortunate incident. It is a good remainder not to be complacent. I've never experienced such incidents in any P2 P places. As much as possible, I try to keep my clothes where they are visible when I am in shower / bathroom. This isn't always possible, like for example, in Clinica Prime, some rooms have hangers on a wall that aren't visible from shower. Still, I've never had anything stolen from there or any other clinicas. I guess the clinica girls are more honest than the ones you encountered. I believe the clinica management would take customer complaints more seriously than establishments like Bamboa.
[/QUOTE]Nah, I don't know their names. Both young white girls with black hair. They came up to me and offered the redbull party. The way it went down is we did the first hour as a threesome and then the one wanted to stay an extra hour which I agreed to. At the end of that hour I went to check my wallet and that is when I noticed I was missing money. The other girl was slick, she didn't grab all the cash but took a big chunk. I hit the ATM up right before I went so I know she took it as money just doesn't disappear. Sucks, I really liked the vibe in Bomboa.
What has the world come to when you can't even have a redbull threesome in a third world bordello with out being robbed LOL? What a world we live in.
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Great report, I agree Scandallo is the best
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3021481]How I view Sao Paulo. Basically I think the easiest way to break Sao Paulo down is using a Three Tier System. For this I am just referring to Boates or night clubs with free lance girls.
Tier 1: Scandallo. Scandallo is best. Some light making out and dancing is fine to vet the girls
I have also had girls who did not give me full GFE when I got back to the room, so be aware that is a possibility.
And for the girls who didn't give me the best session, I still always felt satisfied just due to how beautiful they were.
Tier 2: Bomboa, Bahamas, Cafe Photo, Guaghin.
Warning: one of the girls robbed me of around 1500 Brazil out of my wallet when I wasn't looking. I had let my guard down because we were in a boate and I didn't expect it.
Tier 3: Zeus, 57 friends, Ceasaro. So in my opinion, Zeus is just a waste of time, the place is surprisingly expensive and the girls are not very attractive compared to the other boates.
Ceasaro is a great late night spot and cheap to pick girls up. Its basically a club with free lancers and you can find some attractive girls in here
Personal Tip: Also, I can't stress this enough, just skip everything and go to Scandallo. Especially if its a short trip. If your in Sao Paulo and you want the high end, its worth it to spend a few extra bucks and just go to Scandallo.[/QUOTE]Disclaimer: I've only visited Scandallo and Casarao.
I agree with this. Scandallo is the best. I didn't even go to Rio or any other club in SP for that matter. Beautiful girls, talking, flirting. The place is very high end and the girl pricing though expensive compared to other places in the world like FKKs it's not that bad for that quality. Yes be careful with the girls in general, bad service, cheating on time, hidden extras are all part of the mongering world.
I did meet a girl who was ex-Cafe Photo in Scandallo, she was stunning so I'd imagine the tier-2 clubs as you labelled them will have some beauties if someone finds themselves running out of girls in Scandallo.
Casarao is what it is for the price, not as high end as Scandallo but you can find a few diamonds in the rough for the price. Pro tip: Do not use the hotel next to Casarao for short affair, it's rundown and disgusting. Plan to bring a girl back to your hotel.
Yeah if you're short on time just do Scandallo. Everything else is downhill from there.
Sorry for the robbery incident. I too was scared carrying all the cash in the clothes hanging on the wall, while I was in the shower. These clubs really should provide a locker system like the FKKs to store your cash. Or atleast an ATM. I was always watching the girl getting close to my clothes, but some girls understood that it made me nervous so they would let their stuff hang and only get close to the hangers after I was done dressing for my clothes and paid them.
I was also very scared walking from the bank to my hotel with the cash after withdrawal, heard some of the street thugs and iPhone snatchers are dangerous. Luckily didn't get robbed.
[QUOTE=Viejo66;3021512]Where is Ceasaro located? I tied multiple google searches. Thank you.[/QUOTE]It's Casarao Augusta. Misspelled earlier.
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[QUOTE=Viejo66;3021512]Where is Ceasaro located? I tied multiple google searches. Thank you.[/QUOTE]It's on Rua Augusta, near Avenida Paulista, it's spelled Casarao.
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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3021549]Nah, I don't know their names. Both young white girls with black hair. They came up to me and offered the redbull party. The way it went down is we did the first hour as a threesome and then the one wanted to stay an extra hour which I agreed to. At the end of that hour I went to check my wallet and that is when I noticed I was missing money. The other girl was slick, she didn't grab all the cash but took a big chunk. I hit the ATM up right before I went so I know she took it as money just doesn't disappear. Sucks, I really liked the vibe in Bomboa.
What has the world come to when you can't even have a redbull threesome in a third world bordello with out being robbed LOL? What a world we live in.[/QUOTE]Was it just redbull or was "redbull" a code word for something more sketchy? If such was the case you were, of course, giving the girls further incentive to get up to no good. That's why I was reluctant to accept impromptu invitation to "party", never mind how hot the girl or girls, unless one at least of the participating girls was one long known and tested.
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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3021481]..........As for the debate on Rio vs Sao Paulo. I clearly prefer Rio over Sao Paulo due to price and the great service from the girls, but Sao Paulo girls in terms of looks are top notch. I am sure some people who know the ins and out of Sao Paulo know of cheaper places with good service, but me for me Rio clearly wins.[/QUOTE]After reading your superlative report of Scandallo I was surprised to read this. As a city in itself Rio is definitely better than SP, as a matter of fact it is one of the best, if not the best, in the world. Generally girl's service in Brazil is top notch but as my visit earlier this year reminded me the service in Rio is better than SP. As far as the looks of the ladies is concerned I give SP the edge over Rio but if you factor in the online babes Rio is close. Overall I agree that Rio is the better option over SP.
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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3021549]Nah, I don't know their names. Both young white girls with black hair. They came up to me and offered the redbull party. The way it went down is we did the first hour as a threesome and then the one wanted to stay an extra hour which I agreed to. At the end of that hour I went to check my wallet and that is when I noticed I was missing money. The other girl was slick, she didn't grab all the cash but took a big chunk. I hit the ATM up right before I went so I know she took it as money just doesn't disappear. Sucks, I really liked the vibe in Bomboa.
What has the world come to when you can't even have a redbull threesome in a third world bordello with out being robbed LOL? What a world we live in.[/QUOTE]Great report, Ram! It's too bad about the theft. Shit happens on rare occasions. But I have one question about the incident: Why didn't you notice the theft after the 3-some ended but before the "slick" girl left the room? I mean that would be the time to reach for your wallet or wherever you keep your cash and pay her for her services, right? Or did you pay for the 3-some in advance? If the latter, that is where you made your mistake, although I want to make it perfectly clear, the onus is on the thief not you. I have been to the top 3 SP boates a hundred times or more and I have never been robbed even when I was careless about the cash in my front pocket, so I can say that 99.9 % of the girls are straight shooters, but I always pay afterwards even when I am a little short on cash and need to pay the girl's balance with a CC. I never bring more than 1200 BR to Scandallo and only a 1000 BR (max) to Bomboa, so sometimes I do spend more on the girls especially if I go for a 2nd girl. KKK! (I always put all other transactions which include the club entry fee, drinks, food, room charge or the takeaway fee on the old CC.)
A. H.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;3021652]As a city in itself Rio is definitely better than SP, as a matter of fact it is one of the best, if not the best, in the world. [/QUOTE]It depends on what you are looking for. SP has much better infrastructure, better public transportation, better food, better hospital, better parks, more diversity so it has a better quality of living for me.
I have skipped Sao Paulo and stayed aroud different towns in Brazil in recent years. Maybe the boredom got to me, I was in mostly small towns in the south, too clean and too safe without excitement. I returned to Sao Paulo recently. I realized how much I missed this city. I can have American for breakfast, French for lunch and Korean for dinner, and the next day I can do the same without repeating all in walking distance. It the only city that serves real tea in Japanese restaurant that I know. This stay I paid between 15 are to 200 are for a meal. The cheapest one I found was 4 are, which is an increase from 2. 5 from a few years ago. Haha. It a long but cheap flight to Medellin and other capitals. I even went checking out some new apartments, thinking about making it a permanent base.
I think OP is understandably too excited. Unless things have changed, wait until summer, I bet you will see shorts or even flipflop in Scandallo. There were a group of local customers that treat it like a neighborhood bar. I wondered if they had to pay entrada. I have reported that the girls fondled a man and he got hard right on the couch in front of the elevator. Anyway, I saw many things and have reported them when I frequent the place, I have an exercise date so I have to stop.
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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3021656]Great report, Ram! It's too bad about the theft. Shit happens on rare occasions. But I have one question about the incident: Why didn't you notice the theft after the 3-some ended but before the "slick" girl left the room? I mean that would be the time to reach for your wallet or wherever you keep your cash and pay her for her services, right? Or did you pay for the 3-some in advance? If the latter, that is where you made your mistake, although I want to make it perfectly clear, the onus is on the thief not you. I have been to the top 3 SP boates a hundred times or more and I have never been robbed even when I was careless about the cash in my front pocket, so I can say that 99.9 % of the girls are straight shooters, but I always pay afterwards even when I am a little short on cash and need to pay the girl's balance with a CC. I never bring more than 1200 BR to Scandallo and only a 1000 BR (max) to Bomboa, so sometimes I do spend more on the girls especially if I go for a 2nd girl. KKK! (I always put all other transactions which include the club entry fee, drinks, food, room charge or the takeaway fee on the old CC.)[/QUOTE]So I was a little banged up, a little too much partying with the girls. I am sure you guys can figure out what I mean by extra strength redbull. Anyway I have a metal the loop belt and it makes noise if you touch my pants. I fold my pants in a way if you have to go for my wallet its going to cling the metal belt loops and make noise. At the end of the session I look at my pants and they were folded just like I left them in the corner. So this girl is so slick that she some how got to my wallet with out making noise and setting the jeans back exactly how I folded them. I am guessing she did it while I was catching a BJ and not looking. I should have checked at the end of the threesome, but again I thought I was good just being in the boate and I was a bit reckless trying to enjoy myself. Looking back on it, they probably were in on it together to pull this off. Probably didn't plan on working too much longer at the club and wanted to make some extra money. I think some of these girls spend a lot of nights just dancing alone and don't get customers too often. If they were getting regular customers they wouldn't risk getting fire over a small payday like that. I paid them each 1000 Brazil for just the threesome and redbull. I was saving the cash for round two at Ceasaro later. I take the max amount out of the ATM to avoid fees, so usually 2500 Brazil will last me the week if I go out two or three times, plus food and things like that. I use CC in the boates. I just happen to hit the ATM up that day before the boat.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;3021681]It depends on what you are looking for. SP has much better infrastructure, better public transportation, better food, better hospital, better parks, more diversity so it has a better quality of living for me.
I have skipped Sao Paulo and stayed aroud different towns in Brazil in recent years. Maybe the boredom got to me, I was in mostly small towns in the south, too clean and too safe without excitement. I returned to Sao Paulo recently. I realized how much I missed this city. I can have American for breakfast, French for lunch and Korean for dinner, and the next day I can do the same without repeating all in walking distance. It the only city that serves real tea in Japanese restaurant that I know. This stay I paid between 15 are to 200 are for a meal. The cheapest one I found was 4 are, which is an increase from 2. 5 from a few years ago. Haha. It a long but cheap flight to Medellin and other capitals. I even went checking out some new apartments, thinking about making it a permanent base.
I think OP is understandably too excited. Unless things have changed, wait until summer, I bet you will see shorts or even flipflop in Scandallo. There were a group of local customers that treat it like a neighborhood bar. I wondered if they had to pay entrada. I have reported that the girls fondled a man and he got hard right on the couch in front of the elevator. Anyway, I saw many things and have reported them when I frequent the place, I have an exercise date so I have to stop.[/QUOTE]I have spent the last three weeks hitting these boates up and from what I have gathered they are classy joints. Now could some one roll up in shorts and flip flops, I guess they could? But my recommendation would be "When in Rome". If the girls and the staff are in suits and nice night club attire, you should probably dress nice as well to have the best experience possible. If your in Sosua or Pattaya then again, when in Rome, its probably over doing it to wear anything more than shorts a t shirt and slip flops. As for the raunchiness, the girls have definitely been more reserved, many times in Rio the girls just come up and grind on you and make out with you trying to grab your dick and when back in the room trying to get a few extra bucks for raw anal, which I decline but have had girls offer. Here, you call the girls over and honestly its back and forth on the translator and maybe some light kissing and dancing until you get back to the room. Sometimes service is not so great and its not a true authentic GFE session, some times it is. Overall from my experience Rio is a bit more raunchy and the service is better, but it comes at the expense of the looks of the girls. The girls in Rio are still very attractive, but not as attractive as the girls in the boates in SP. Now, I am also sure all kinds of weird raunchy things go on behind the scenes in the SP boates and probably even the regular night clubs. But when you walk in these places, you will not see Frank the 300 lb truck driver in a flannel catching a handjob from a Thai massage lady who has been in the game since Clinton was president like you will in Pattaya LOL. These boates look like classy night clubs and the people who work there seem to treat it as such. Again, just my two cents for anyone visiting SP, think "When in Rome".
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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3021702]So I was a little banged up, a little too much partying with the girls. I am sure you guys can figure out what I mean by extra strength redbull. [/QUOTE]Again, I don't think you share any of the blame. It's all on the girls. Bad Girls! So, don't let it get you down. This is a very, very rare event, although it could have happened to anyone of us.
I am just saying that fate dealt you a bad hand this time around because in the vast majority of Boate sessions this BS would not have occurred period. But if you had taken your wallet out to pay them at the end of the threesome, they would have been caught red handed in the room, and either they would have given you your money back or they would not have been paid for their services and would have faced a painful scene with you and Bomboa's manager.
In any case, Rock on! And thanks again for your solid and honest reportage.
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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3021708]"When in Rome".[/QUOTE]I always suggest others to take all posts to form a better perspective so my post is to complement yours. I used to stay in Sao Paulo several months a year but nowadays I mostly passing thru until recently I kept moving north and decided to come to Sao Paulo because I was thinking to go somewhere warmer too, lol.
In my post, I mentioned locals treat the club like a neighborhood bar. They came like they lived next door or something and played pool. Jeans and shirt certainly is not a problem as I wear them all the time. I practically have all my life in a luggage so I have limited choice.
There is no question that the place is classy. I had a college girl who spoke perfect English, and she was one girl that I knew will be successful in her future. Even she would made out with me right on the couch in front of everyone. She probably would not go as far as other Scandallo girls who took off pants or shirt to show me breast or bunda. By this time, the girls are familiar with me. I reported all these before. I also reported one girl in 4 x4 would not kiss me in the club and I remember AH asked me why here. I also had Scandallo girls followed me to the bathroom and waiting outside so I couldn't ditch them.
I also had a girl who stole from me in a developed country. She was a regular so I had my guard down, and I was having a session with her friend. She left enough money in my wallet to pay her friend. I knew because I withdrew money right before the session similar to your situation. She denied it and I just did not care to trouble myself with it.
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First time in SP
You guys are very knowledgeable and I've learned a lot just reading. I'll be in SP for the first time in 2 weeks (for the NFL game). What are your top things you recommend I do?
Do any of the ladies in the Boates speak English or is it hit and miss, my Portuguese is very beginner. I'm much better at Spanish.
I was told Sept. 7 is Independence Day in Brazil? Any special events going on?
Ram, sorry that happened to you. Being Robbed is never fun.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;3021789]I always suggest others to take all posts to form a better perspective so my post is to complement yours. I used to stay in Sao Paulo several months a year but nowadays I mostly passing thru until recently I kept moving north and decided to come to Sao Paulo because I was thinking to go somewhere warmer too, lol.
In my post, I mentioned locals treat the club like a neighborhood bar. They came like they lived next door or something and played pool. Jeans and shirt certainly is not a problem as I wear them all the time. I practically have all my life in a luggage so I have limited choice.
There is no question that the place is classy. I had a college girl who spoke perfect English, and she was one girl that I knew will be successful in her future. Even she would made out with me right on the couch in front of everyone. She probably would not go as far as other Scandallo girls who took off pants or shirt to show me breast or bunda. By this time, the girls are familiar with me. I reported all these before. I also reported one girl in 4 x4 would not kiss me in the club and I remember AH asked me why here. I also had Scandallo girls followed me to the bathroom and waiting outside so I couldn't ditch them.
I also had a girl who stole from me in a developed country. She was a regular so I had my guard down, and I was having a session with her friend. She left enough money in my wallet to pay her friend. I knew because I withdrew money right before the session similar to your situation. She denied it and I just did not care to trouble myself with it.[/QUOTE]You sir are correct. I just went tonight on a Tuesday and the place was packed to the gils with women! On a fuckin Tuesday! Anyway my first two times were on the weekend and it was still good but not packed wall to wall like it was tonight. Man, if you had a hard dick you had your pick of the lot. Girls were very very quick to accept my 1000 Brazil offer, which is still alot but way better than girls telling me they won't budge off 1500 Brazil. So my boys, skip all the bull shit and just get your ass to Scandallo.
Pro tip: Meet a girl from Bahia, they may be the sweetest girls on Earth and the service is top notch.
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Tuesday night Scandallo
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3021873]You sir are correct. I just went tonight on a Tuesday and the place was packed to the gils with women! On a fuckin Tuesday! Anyway my first two times were on the weekend and it was still good but not packed wall to wall like it was tonight. Man, if you had a hard dick you had your pick of the lot. Girls were very very quick to accept my 1000 Brazil offer, which is still alot but way better than girls telling me they won't budge off 1500 Brazil. So my boys, skip all the bull shit and just get your ass to Scandallo.
Pro tip: Meet a girl from Bahia, they may be the sweetest girls on Earth and the service is top notch.[/QUOTE]Tuesday was wall to wall garotas. The local band was good, enjoyed the food as it top notch. It was a little cold for the open-air bar. All shapes, sizes showed up tonight. No really it was damn packed. I arrived late at midnight, forgot about the increased entry price. I found two 21-year-old sexy bleached blondes. Seen them around for a few months. The deal was 800 brl for all night until the next day at Lush my favorite erotic motel with a pool. And I would pay Uber ride to Rick Towers. There are two or three hotel apartments within 2 minutes' walking distance of Scandallo. The out-of-town garotas stay, three or four to a room. Had a great time threesome everything goes Maralo, jacuzzi, pool, drinks, champagne, dinner & cafe de manaha serves in the suites. The closer we get to the NFL Sao paulo game the.
Less likely to have garotas to lower their price. So take advantage of it now.
Kkk.
BTW both were deep throat cum swallowers non-gag or nonspit, both did the deed without asking or any extra payment. Prime has two new young garotas, so-so in looks, both are cum swallowers for now kkk.
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It doesn't bother me if girls get offended when I bring my clothing into the bathroom with me. The funny thing is I've only felt the need to do that at the more upscale places.
[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3021556]Disclaimer: I've only visited Scandallo and Casarao.
I agree with this. Scandallo is the best. I didn't even go to Rio or any other club in SP for that matter. Beautiful girls, talking, flirting. The place is very high end and the girl pricing though expensive compared to other places in the world like FKKs it's not that bad for that quality. Yes be careful with the girls in general, bad service, cheating on time, hidden extras are all part of the mongering world.
I did meet a girl who was ex-Cafe Photo in Scandallo, she was stunning so I'd imagine the tier-2 clubs as you labelled them will have some beauties if someone finds themselves running out of girls in Scandallo.
Casarao is what it is for the price, not as high end as Scandallo but you can find a few diamonds in the rough for the price. Pro tip: Do not use the hotel next to Casarao for short affair, it's rundown and disgusting. Plan to bring a girl back to your hotel.
Yeah if you're short on time just do Scandallo. Everything else is downhill from there..[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Tochka;3021985]Tuesday was wall to wall garotas. The local band was good, enjoyed the food as it top notch. It was a little cold for the open-air bar. All shapes, sizes showed up tonight. No really it was damn packed. I arrived late at midnight, forgot about the increased entry price. I found two 21-year-old sexy bleached blondes. Seen them around for a few months. The deal was 800 brl for all night until the next day at Lush my favorite erotic motel with a pool. And I would pay Uber ride to Rick Towers. There are two or three hotel apartments within 2 minutes' walking distance of Scandallo. The out-of-town garotas stay, three or four to a room. Had a great time threesome everything goes Maralo, jacuzzi, pool, drinks, champagne, dinner & cafe de manaha serves in the suites. The closer we get to the NFL Sao paulo game the.
Less likely to have garotas to lower their price. So take advantage of it now..[/QUOTE]You got two blonde Brazilian girls for 800 R for long time take out from Scandallo?! You sir are a God LOL. Even with my decent Portuguese I rarely do better than 1500 for TL takeout!.
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[QUOTE=Chicago85;3021998]You got two blonde Brazilian girls for 800 R for long time take out from Scandallo?! You sir are a God LOL. Even with my decent Portuguese I rarely do better than 1500 for TL takeout!.[/QUOTE]That sounds like a hell of a good time LOL. Just curious, what's the fee to take a girl out of the club? I enjoy the hunt as much as the actual sex, so I was sticking to in house action so I could get back down to keep flirting with the girls and seeing what else popped up. On my way home I noticed all the fancy motels conveniently located right next to Scandallo. I think there were so many girls looking for action that night, they would have accepted 800 brl, especially after 2 am Almost all the girls I spoke to were not from Sao Paulo so I think there is a certain amount they probably have to earn to cover travel costs. This is just me speculating. You could see them walk with a little desperation later in the night when they realized they may not land a customer. I am looking pretty rough these days after a summer of hard drinking and whoring in Brazil and DR and I was getting approached all night LOL. It was the best night I have had in Brazil so far.
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[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;3016528]Hey guys. I am nearly finalized for my first trip to Sao Paulo next week. I am a bit of a high baller when it comes to experience when on vacation. I prefer to stay in high end hotels in other cities (Dubai / Medellin / Bangkok etc.) and bring the girls back for an overnight. I have a strong preference for suites…
I am looking at some of the 5 star hotels in SP for next week and following week.
I can get a presidential suite at Grand Hyatt through my points (Not that expensive with the points it seems), OR pay for Marriott executive apartments OR stay at the Presidential suite at Bourbon / Wyndham in Ibirapuera.
I am liking the Grand Hyatt the most based on online pictures of the Presidential suite. But, it seems TOO FAR from scandallo (the place where I can see myself spending most time in the evenings). Is the traffic too bad in evening time?..
Marriott seems like a decent compromise, though not luxurious at all. Its just decently fine.
Wyndham Ibirapuera seems good as well. Especially their Presidential suite, but worried about some of the complaints here on the airplane noise level .?[/QUOTE]Did this Rahul guy ever write a report? He told us how awesome he was and then had 8 to 10 posts with detailed questions which we diligently answered. He also DMed several directly and we responded. Nothing burns me more than guys who ask a ton of questions, many of which they can find answers to if they RTFF, and then don't give back. It looks like he's done the same in several other threads.
I'm a little grumpy today LOL.
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Green Tocha!
[QUOTE=Chicago85;3021998]You got two blonde Brazilian girls for 800 R for long time take out from Scandallo?! You sir are a God LOL. Even with my decent Portuguese I rarely do better than 1500 for TL takeout!.[/QUOTE]I, for one, am glad that only Tocha gets those prices. He's very responsible and considerate of others, which is why he only takes two girls at a time. Can you imagine what would happen if those prices were offered to selfish a-holes who take 5-10 girls at a time paying insane prices?
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[QUOTE=Chicago85;3022001]Nothing burns me more than guys who ask a ton of questions, many of which they can find answers to if they RTFF, and then don't give back.[/QUOTE]+billion.
I was wondering about the same thing about this guy. He gave a glorious mongering resume, like many do for some fucking reason, to impress and I guess it worked, yet again.
I too am bit grumpy today 😉.
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Tochka prices
[QUOTE=Lalabo;3022008]I, for one, am glad that only Tocha gets those prices. He's very responsible and considerate of others, so he only takes two girls at a time. Can you imagine what would happen if those prices were offered to selfish a-holes who take 5-10 girls at a time paying insane prices?[/QUOTE]Dudes I wrote early my approach to scandallos. I mentioned this before, that I go to Scandallos with a sexy girlfriend, I go as a couple. I have a wingwoman, a garota navigator, a hype gal, she is a young, cute, and fun partner. I rotate between different girlfriend partners. We talk to scandalous garotas together or they go off and smoke or talk more, gossip in the ladies' room. We buy drinks, food, special DJ music requests, give a shout-out to a garota, and watch her face light up. They get a fvcking kick hearing their name called out by the DJ shout out. Or I request their favorite brasilian songb played by the local band. Pro tip: the bands will play a request if you know how it works. After 1. 30 am the scandallo garotas are off shift. I offer to continue the couple's party with more fun action at nearby lush, colonial, myflowers, and crush any nearby spots. Yeah, they ask for 1200 or 1000, but I stick to 800 all night because we pick up one or two garotas as a couple. So I offer couples pricing kkkkk. Many garotas agree to continue the after party, others don't. It helps to have a sexy ass girlfriend, Scandallo garoratas are bisexual or loveblesbian action with other garotas, it is no problem for them. On Tues to Thurs night more Garotas than guys this approach consistently works for me. During special weeks, NFL week, F1 etc I know they ain't budging from the 2 mil, 3 mil and 4 mil a session the weekend bros in town are offering. No problem I can wait for next month or other weeks when its regular locals nights.
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Love motels around Scandallo and SP
Sao Paulo. Love motels.
Love motels near scandalo and around SP.
QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3022000]That sounds like a hell of a good time LOL. Just curious, what's the fee to take a girl out of the club? . On my way home I noticed all the fancy motels conveniently located right next to Scandallo. [ / QUOTE.
[QUOTE=Tochka;2992023]True words have been spoken.
With Moema as a starting point.
Sao Paulo. Love motels.
Andar de Cima. Sutes. Centro, So Paulo (erotic fun suites, short Uber from Casarao, next door to Love Cabaret, suites suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service, fun party atmosphere in suites).
Motel Colonial Palace (fucking best economical deal on the budget, decent pool, excellent food, and breakfast, short Uber from Scandallo, suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service, damn uber drivers prefer pickup outside instead of meeting in suites, the religious uber drivers never come inside, only outside drop-off, or pick up or they cancel the ride).
Lush Motel (unidade Ipiranga) (pool with toys, modern suites, short Uber from Scandallo decent size pool, suitable for threesome, all night, foursome are a bit tight, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service).
Secrets Motel are. Sebastopol, 47 - Vila Inglesa, So Paulo (nice daytime midpoint place to meet garotas when they live far away, suites average, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, marola friendly, service sucks, order iFood).
Hotel For Lovers, one minute walk from Jabaqura Metro.
Are. Dos Jequitibs, 261 - Jardim Oriental, (the rooms suck, the service sucks, and the price is cheap mas barrato, order iFood, however, the location for afternoon meetup, no Uber needed. Garotas takes the metro to Jabaquara Metro, walks less than one minute to the motel, a good meet-up spot when there is rain, afternoon thunderstorms, and traffic backed up for miles, and promised to meet at 5 pm, nothing else to recommend about the place). Garotas can leave by metro or onibus, easy in easy out for them).
Swing Motel, no Morumbi, So Paulo (far from scandallo, 20 min uber from Moema, erotic fun suites, suites suitable but tight for threesome, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for more garotas, ok service, colorful suites).
In Rio.
Panda Motel Botafogo, (top end suites with fvcking large ass pool, suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service in tuxedos, short Uber from Monte Carlos).
Those are my places and why what's yours and why?[/QUOTE]Love motels near scandalo and around SP. I have more but have been too busy to write them up. I don't depend on the review or recommendation from garotas. As the guy paying for shit my view has been different from garotas views of love motels.
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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3022000]Just curious, what's the fee to take a girl out of the club?[/QUOTE]$R400 at Scandallo.
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Aren't you concerned your clothes will get wet?
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3021991]It doesn't bother me if girls get offended when I bring my clothing into the bathroom with me. The funny thing is I've only felt the need to do that at the more upscale places.[/QUOTE]10 characters.
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So you guys pay, how much, 500 BRL to enter in the club, and then you probably spend 200/300 more for drinks, maybe more, and between 800 and 1500 to spend a few hours with a girl (because at 2 PM, you won't be up for long), and probably have sex twice, because more you even can't. Crazy. With that money in Africa I organise an orgy with 10 girls. Something is wrong with you all.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3022000]That sounds like a hell of a good time LOL. Just curious, what's the fee to take a girl out of the club? I enjoy the hunt as much as the actual sex, so I was sticking to in house action so I could get back down to keep flirting with the girls and seeing what else popped up. On my way home I noticed all the fancy motels conveniently located right next to Scandallo. I think there were so many girls looking for action that night, they would have accepted 800 brl, especially after 2 am Almost all the girls I spoke to were not from Sao Paulo so I think there is a certain amount they probably have to earn to cover travel costs. This is just me speculating. You could see them walk with a little desperation later in the night when they realized they may not land a customer. I am looking pretty rough these days after a summer of hard drinking and whoring in Brazil and DR and I was getting approached all night LOL. It was the best night I have had in Brazil so far.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Incrociatore;3022225]So you guys pay, how much, 500 BRL to enter in the club, and then you probably spend 200/300 more for drinks, maybe more, and between 800 and 1500 to spend a few hours with a girl (because at 2 PM, you won't be up for long), and probably have sex twice, because more you even can't. Crazy. With that money in Africa I organise an orgy with 10 girls. Something is wrong with you all.[/QUOTE]Maybe some of us just don't want to go to Africa. And maybe some of us like the highly variable local flavors that Brazilian girls come in like pure white, black, Indian, & Japanese and all possible mixed-race combinations thereof. Some of us prefer brancas. Some of us just like the local Brazilian vibe, the service quality and the sexual attitudes of the girls here. There are as many reasons why some of us keep returning to SP as there are pretty, Brazilian, working girls in SP.
The prices you quote above are the prices in the most high-end 1st class boates especially Scandallo. But a session with a Cararao girl won't run you more than 750 to 800 br total. In addition, SP has many friendly clinicas that offer punters great bang for your buck opportunities ranging from 175 br to 360 br total per session with some pretty entertaining girls.
But I am interested in what you have experienced. What African countries have you been to and which ones do you highly recommend for both high quality African girls and great sex? Personally, I have always wanted to check out Ethiopia for their attractive girls and the food, but recent reports in the ISG thread have not been very positive.
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[QUOTE=Incrociatore;3022225]So you guys pay, how much, 500 BRL to enter in the club, and then you probably spend 200/300 more for drinks, maybe more, and between 800 and 1500 to spend a few hours with a girl (because at 2 PM, you won't be up for long), and probably have sex twice, because more you even can't. Crazy. With that money in Africa I organise an orgy with 10 girls. Something is wrong with you all.[/QUOTE]When you die, you can't take that money with you LOL.
So what's the best spots in Africa where you pull off these 10 women orgies? LOL ten women orgy seems a little over kill for me.
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Connection Night Club
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3022354]Maybe some of us just don't want to go to Africa. And maybe some of us like the highly variable local flavors that Brazilian girls come in like pure white, black, Indian, & Japanese and all possible mixed-race combinations thereof. Some of us prefer brancas. Some of us just like the local Brazilian vibe, the service quality and the sexual attitudes of the girls here. There are as many reasons why some of us keep returning to SP as there are pretty, Brazilian, working girls in SP.
The prices you quote above are the prices in the most high-end 1st class boates especially Scandallo. But a session with a Cararao girl won't run you more than 750 to 800 br total. In addition, SP has many friendly clinicas that offer punters great bang for your buck opportunities ranging from 175 br to 360 br total per session with some pretty entertaining girls.
But I am interested in what you have experienced. What African countries have you been to and which ones do you highly recommend for both high quality African girls and great sex? Personally, I have always wanted to check out Ethiopia for their attractive girls and the food, but recent reports in the ISG thread have not been very positive.[/QUOTE]If you want to go cheaper in a boate. The best budget boate is Connection. 300 entry, 150 consumable. 40 brl for beers 60 brl for whiskey. 180 for rooms onsite which are same layout as Scandallo. Girls start out at 1000 brl asking, but are quick to take 500 brl and cheaper if you do 2 or 3 hours with them. Take out fee is 200 I think.
Downside. Connection in traffic around 9:00 is 35 minutes from Moema. Uber cost me 90 brl just to get there. Almost twice as much as uber to Scandallo. In non traffic less than 20 minutes, your ride home will be quicker than getting there. Club is very nice and quite big, has 40 to 60 girls, and best nights are apparently Friday and Saturday. The girls are a slight step down from Scandallo but better than Casero. Think Hot slutty milfs in early thirties mixed with some younger hot girls.
Would I return knowing there is Scandallo. Yes, but only if I was on a longer trip, which I currently am. I can't afford Scandallos multiple times a week, so Connection works well for me. On my next trip to Sao Paulo, I may try and stay at a hotel which is Closer to Scandallo. If you are traveling from Moema, Connection is in that same direction. Another boate which I have heard good things about is Caster Club which is down the street from Connection, but I have not been there personally. I actually think one of the girls told me, Scandallos and Connection are owned by the same owners.
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[QUOTE=Incrociatore;3022225]So you guys pay, how much, 500 BRL to enter in the club, and then you probably spend 200/300 more for drinks, maybe more, and between 800 and 1500 to spend a few hours with a girl (because at 2 PM, you won't be up for long), and probably have sex twice, because more you even can't. Crazy. With that money in Africa I organise an orgy with 10 girls. Something is wrong with you all.[/QUOTE]I live in Africa and in my "Africa" you won't get half of that kind of quality for 10 times the price.
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Where exactly is connection?
I will be staying near Paulista and Rua Augusta.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3022364]If you want to go cheaper in a boate. The best budget boate is Connection. 300 entry, 150 consumable. 40 brl for beers 60 brl for whiskey. 180 for rooms onsite which are same layout as Scandallo. Girls start out at 1000 brl asking, but are quick to take 500 brl and cheaper if you do 2 or 3 hours with them. Take out fee is 200 I think.
Downside. Connection in traffic around 9:00 is 35 minutes from Moema. Uber cost me 90 brl just to get there. Almost twice as much as uber to Scandallo. In non traffic less than 20 minutes, your ride home will be quicker than getting there. Club is very nice and quite big, has 40 to 60 girls, and best nights are apparently Friday and Saturday. The girls are a slight step down from Scandallo but better than Casero. Think Hot slutty milfs in early thirties mixed with some younger hot girls.
Would I return knowing there is Scandallo. Yes, but only if I was on a longer trip, which I currently am. I can't afford Scandallos multiple times a week, so Connection works well for me. On my next trip to Sao Paulo, I may try and stay at a hotel which is Closer to Scandallo. If you are traveling from Moema, Connection is in that same direction. Another boate which I have heard good things about is Caster Club which is down the street from Connection, but I have not been there personally. I actually think one of the girls told me, Scandallos and Connection are owned by the same owners.[/QUOTE]
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Castor
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3022364]. Another boate which I have heard good things about is Caster Club which is down the street from Connection, but I have not been there personally. I actually think one of the girls told me, Scandallos and Connection are owned by the same owners.[/QUOTE]I reported about Castor a few years ago. It's a club with pool that is also a common boate setup so it may be interesting to you the first time. It is quite a distance away from Connection.
I am surprised that the Connection now cost so much more.
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[QUOTE=Incrociatore;3022225]So you guys pay, how much, 500 BRL to enter in the club[/QUOTE]It's a nice club and that does not come free so you are paying for the ambiance, not the girl. For the most part, the girl's price can be fair if you can negotiate.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;3022507]I reported about Castor a few years ago. It's a club with pool that is also a common boate setup so it may be interesting to you the first time. It is quite a distance away from Connection.
I am surprised that the Connection now cost so much more.[/QUOTE]My first time to Brazil, but from what I read, post pandemic everything increased drastically in the boates correct? Did prices basically double?
Expensive to get into the boates, but at least no tipping!
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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3022541]My first time to Brazil, but from what I read, post pandemic everything increased drastically in the boates correct? Did prices basically double?
Expensive to get into the boates, but at least no tipping![/QUOTE]Yes, basically double. Note that hotel prices did more than double. To me it's not just boates' prices you have to look at. What are you going to shell out get good girlfriendly accomodation?
[QUOTE=GreatEraIm;3022418]Where exactly is connection?
I will be staying near Paulista and Rua Augusta.[/QUOTE]Connection is rather far afield towards Zona Leste, however since it is a late night club, peak traffic will already have subsided when you set out.
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Not Double if USA
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3022541]My first time to Brazil, but from what I read, post pandemic everything increased drastically in the boates correct? Did prices basically double?
Expensive to get into the boates, but at least no tipping![/QUOTE]My experience is that prices are about the same in USD. Maybe up 10-20% which is low compared to rest of world girl inflation.
Note that I am not the master negotiator or try to push the girls down alot, so no point in a bunch of guys giving me shit about how I overpaid. Here are some actual prices I paid in Reals. These were top shelf girls.
2018 - Scandallo 600-800. Casarao 400.
2025 - Scandallo 1000-1200. Casarao 600.
As you can see, in reals it's 50% higher. But in 2018 the Real was 4.0 to 1. Now it's 5.65 to 1. So it's almost a wash in USD. And that’s 7 years later! Brazil prices remain very good.
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4 days in Sao Paulo.
Sao Paulo was my last stop of over 2-months long trip. I always try to fly out of Sao Paulo because how can you visit Brazil and not stop by Scandalo? At least IMHO, and I'm not what you call a wealthy guy too.
I stayed on Rua Augusta, and I found it as safe as any other place I stayed in SP. Yes, it's a hip area, sort of like Parque de las Hippies in Bogota. I found both areas harmless and I do look reasonably gringo.
There is some sporadic street action on Augusta, mostly daytime when Casarao and other numerous similar clubs in the area are closed.
You can run into incidental programas all the way up to Paulista but the main spot is a small luncheonette called Patna.
I think I saw Angelina (in her mid-30's) every day, but you see other younger ones too. Some would later go to Casarao or other places around. Many are not dressed well enough to be let in anywhere. Some indeed look like druggies, mostly white chicks but if you're willing to take a chance I saw some pretty fresh, and good looking junkies among them too. Others are fine and are just having their cerveja. Just chat them up and I'm sure you could have most of them for 200, if not less. I'm pretty sure that if they like you, they'the hang with you to no limit. I just never got that far because I only had 4 days in SP, had to do tourism, meet friends, etc. Intended to but when I was ready for one of them on Saturday (I was leaving Saturday night), I found nobody at Patna, so look at it as a weekday daytime programa hangout.
Now onto to the clubs. Casarao is ok. This was my first time there. 40 brl entry or 60 brl consumable (one drink). You could enter other clubs nearby for 20 brl and even for free.
Ladies in all places are ok.
Most of what I saw in Rio, including street action in Recreo or at Mab's was on about the same level, if not better. There are some gems there for sure though. The atmosphere at Casarao is pretty rambunctious. The music is loud. You feel that you're in the neighborhood club. Both times I was there it was reasonably busy. On Wednesday around 10 ish-11 ish moderately so. Got it on with the girl named Quezia. Nice, pretty, well build imo, 1. 66 cm, very small tits. She wouldn't go to my place only to the rooms or hotels (not my thing) so I just had a nice half-and-hour kiss and squeeze session with her for a 100 brl right there at the club. Good kisser, loves to have her boobs lightly bitten. Have her contact info if anybody's interested.
On Friday Casarao was packed so I left quickly and went to Scandalo which for me is a must stop every time I'm in SP.
Now Scandalo is a must visit at least once in your lifetime. The density of a 'gorgeous woman per square meter / foot' is probably the highest in the world. They are nice and friendly too while in Casarao I found many to be somewhat stand-offish.
The difference between how they look and the clothes they wear in Casarao and Scandalo is about the same as between Casarao and the street, as in huge, enormous, massive, or you can use any other trump-speak vocabulary to describe Scandalo.
It's the same of course regarding price. There is a huge difference and justifiably so. Scandalo is 600,400 of which is consumable. Step into Scandalo however and you'd know that the price fits the product. Women at Scandalo ask for 1000-1500 brl + 350-400 for the room, or 400 bar fine to take them out. You can probably find some of them somewhere else too, and for less but not all of them, and I doubt the prettiest ones too. In scandalo they're all assembled in one place. It truly is a sight to behold.
I got 'my' girl Bruna to spend the night at my place for 1,000 + 400 for the casa. But you got to chat them up first to get this type of rate and for the whole night. Brasileira got to like you and want to do it, or it would be room only and for no more than 40 minutes. Not sure if 1000 brl would do too. I speak pretty good Portuguese so in that I usually do have a leg up on many gringos.
Ladies must work 5 days / week in Scandalo, or they pay 400 brl entry. I also spoke to one of the managers. The interview process for girls wanting to work there is pretty intense for this type of place. Looks, and they do make them strip to ensure that there are no stretch marks + how they come across: no ghetto, even if you're gorgeous apparently is a must, they must be able to hold conversation which is nice to know. Every girl I chatted with in Scandalo was friendly and generally fluid in convo. Nice.
For me Scandalo is a must stop. I don't refer to Scandalo as a club. I call it a museum. Like Louvre or Metropolitan. You go there to watch an exhibit of God's work of art even if you don't intend to partake in action. BTW, the food in Scandalo is second to none too, and 400 out of 600 is consumable so you'the get your monies worth no matter what imo. You get a menu with prices. Whether you buy yourself a drink or buy lady a drink it costs the same. I don't know if girls get kickbacks for making you buy them a drink or not. I suspect not. All is very transparent in Scandalo. I didn't notice any fine print reflected at my check-out.
This is what I'd call a fully respectable place. Also, there are few rooms: one loud room with the band or music playing and ladies swaying and singing along, and quite dining hall and two other rooms where you could also talk. It's a really classy, well thought out place. I'm sure the girls sort of proud to work there. If you got selected to work at Scandalo that in itself is her impartial confirmation that she is pretty and a smooth talker.
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[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3022364]If you want to go cheaper in a boate. The best budget boate is Connection. 300 entry, 150 consumable. 40 brl for beers 60 brl for whiskey. 180 for rooms onsite which are same layout as Scandallo. Girls start out at 1000 brl asking, but are quick to take 500 brl and cheaper if you do 2 or 3 hours with them. Take out fee is 200 I think.
Downside. Connection in traffic around 9:00 is 35 minutes from Moema. Uber cost me 90 brl just to get there. Almost twice as much as uber to Scandallo. In non traffic less than 20 minutes, your ride home will be quicker than getting there. Club is very nice and quite big, has 40 to 60 girls, and best nights are apparently Friday and Saturday. The girls are a slight step down from Scandallo but better than Casero. Think Hot slutty milfs in early thirties mixed with some younger hot girls.
Would I return knowing there is Scandallo. Yes, but only if I was on a longer trip, which I currently am. I can't afford Scandallos multiple times a week, so Connection works well for me. On my next trip to Sao Paulo, I may try and stay at a hotel which is Closer to Scandallo. If you are traveling from Moema, Connection is in that same direction. Another boate which I have heard good things about is Caster Club which is down the street from Connection, but I have not been there personally. I actually think one of the girls told me, Scandallos and Connection are owned by the same owners.[/QUOTE]Whats the address for Connection? Thanks.