Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Halcyon901;1832505]Great update on NL Turgid! You can definitely find some hotties here, I would rate Marisol an 8! Took for 2 sessions, total of 2.75 hours, and she took 3 leches, and tried for a 4th. She's got the perfect spinner body, fake tits and some silicon in her ass, but feels great!

I've had Pamela twice, once a year ago, and last time about 4 months ago. She is quite a stallion, fake tetas and culo! She looks great with her outfit (and I'm going to guess she was wearing jeans), but has a bad see-section scar and scars from her breast augmentation. But she's a beast in the sack, everything is on the menu, including anal.[/QUOTE]Same opinion for Pamela.

I recommend his true complete deepthroat. Nose on my balls.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1833634]Thanks for the info Richmond72. It sounds like the Schwab card is a better deal than capital one360. I will check it out and may open one if they don't required a minimum deposit for the brokerage and if no trading requirements and have it along with my capitalone360 ATM. The capitalone360 has a two business day for the transfer deposit to be available.[/QUOTE]I think theres a code floating around somewhere on Google that gives you a free $100 if you do minimum $10 k deposit on sign up One TLN courtesy of Schwab!

Sorry to disturb your discussion on credit cards and getting money out of the bank. In my opinion that kind of info should be in the General Info forums, So not to clutter up reports about hot to get laid.

After my initial Medellin report, I got a few private messages about sharing my small but growing Facebook list of girls, so I figured I would put this out publicly.

Yes, I would be more than happy to share my FB contacts. That is what this hobby is all about. It helps our fellow mongers and it helps the girls make more money.

I would be more than happy if you fucked them. Isn't that our main goal.

I hate guys who get all possessive or jealous when it comes to P4P girls. Like if they fucked them first, now they are off limits to their friends. To me that is not a real friend, and even if they know the girls are working girls, it is OK that some random stranger is fucking them.

Let me first ask the girls if it is OK if I share their FB info. Some of the girls are normal girls who I haven't fucked. But if you can get the deed done. More power to you!

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1833957]I hate guys who get all possessive or jealous when it comes to P4P girls. Like if they fucked them first, now they are off limits to their friends. To me that is not a real friend, and even if they know the girls are working girls, it is OK that some random stranger is fucking them.[/QUOTE]The problem is that none of the people here are your friends. Most are just internet trolls. And if you share information with them your sugar can turn to shit in a matter of minutes. The same way they troll these boards, they will troll those women. If it is a poster who has established a good reputation then that is a different story; but that person probably already has a contact list or has developed their method of doing things and does not need your contacts. But a person with no posts or reports sending you messages about your contacts: Beware!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1834104]The problem is that none of the people here are your friends. Most are just internet trolls. And if you share information with them your sugar can turn to shit in a matter of minutes. The same way they troll these boards, they will troll those women. If it is a poster who has established a good reputation then that is a different story; but that person probably already has a contact list or has developed their method of doing things and does not need your contacts. But a person with no posts or reports sending you messages about your contacts: Beware![/QUOTE]That is good they are not my friends, because what I meant is people who say they are my friend and then tell me I can't have sex with one of their P4P girls because they met them first is not what I call a friend anyway.

I don't mind sharing my info because I don't do repeats if I can help it. If a girl gets mad at me for sending them more potential customers, than what do I care.

It takes time to find new potential girls in a new city, so if we help each other out I think it is great. I don't always expect something in return and I always think most people are naturally good, not bad.

The easiest method of finding hot girls on Facebook is start with 1 and add their friends. Rinse and repeat. It is also not that hard finding girls in the park, same as anywhere. Not hard to figure out who is working and who is not, because they seem to stand in the same place over a long period of time. But I did get a wave over a few girls who were with their family not knowing it was their mother or sisters with them. In the end I figured it was too much work for myself, but if another guy wants to try, more power to him.

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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1834104]The problem is that none of the people here are your friends. Most are just internet trolls. And if you share information with them your sugar can turn to shit in a matter of minutes. The same way they troll these boards, they will troll those women. If it is a poster who has established a good reputation then that is a different story; but that person probably already has a contact list or has developed their method of doing things and does not need your contacts. But a person with no posts or reports sending you messages about your contacts: Beware![/QUOTE]Barely a beginner here I did manage to collect a few good contacts that I am willing to share, why not? I also think that's what this board is all about, sharing experiences, information and also sharing contacts. Your post has me thinking twice about bringing guys in contact with my contacts. But I have to ask, what could go wrong here? Do you mean that those trolls can troll on the girls in question and mistreat them? What's the risk here?

Don't want to ruin my carefully curated list of good 'girlfriends', but more than willing to share them with likeminded and trustworthy guys.

[QUOTE=Dellorto;1834266].......What's the risk here?

Don't want to ruin my carefully curated list of good 'girlfriends', but more than willing to share them with likeminded and trustworthy guys.[/QUOTE]Depends.

If your Stable (FB list) is full of a bunch of bored nonpro paisa girlfriends hungry to bang foreigners at the drop of a US dime.

Then you risk spoiling the pot on a future trip; if even one dumb ass does something stupid to one of the girls.

However.

If your list is basically full of working girls that happen to have a FB page.

Who gives a shit? They are basically escorts who cut out the middle mad at that point.

And less be honest; the list probably consists of the latter.

[QUOTE=Dellorto;1834266]But I have to ask, what could go wrong here? Do you mean that those trolls can troll on the girls in question and mistreat them? What's the risk here?

Don't want to ruin my carefully curated list of good 'girlfriends', but more than willing to share them with likeminded and trustworthy guys.[/QUOTE]I once hooked one of my main girls in Thailand up with a guy on ISG who was visiting. I have no idea what happened with them. But ever since, I have gotten the cold shoulder from her everytime I see her out. On top of that I never heard back from the guy either to say how it went.

But what I meant by trolling is that you will get a bunch of guys who are not serious about doing business. They have no intention of visiting the place. The most they are going to do is harass the girl and keep asking her to get nekkit on a cam. I do not want my name associated with someone who is going to waste a contact's time.

I have a buddy who comes to Pattaya and always wants me to take him to people that I buy certain things from. He will go through a big song and dance and get the people to explain and demonstrate and then he will cheap them down on the price and in the end he never buys shit. So now not only has my time and the seller's time been wasted, but I also look like a ******* for bringing him to my people, when it appears he never intended to buy in the first place. So he can be seen as a market troll.

Dellorto you mentioned trustworthy. That is why I mentioned sharing with a poster who has established a good reputation on the board. But most of the time someone with zero posts will pop into your inbox and want all types of contact info. That is what I would be leery of.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1834605]I once hooked one of my main girls in Thailand up with a guy on ISG who was visiting. I have no idea what happened with them. But ever since, I have gotten the cold shoulder from her everytime I see her out. On top of that I never heard back from the guy either to say how it went.

But what I meant by trolling is that you will get a bunch of guys who are not serious about doing business. They have no intention of visiting the place. The most they are going to do is harass the girl and keep asking her to get nekkit on a cam. I do not want my name associated with someone who is going to waste a contact's time..[/QUOTE]Same has happened to me in both Tijuana and MDE. I get friends who jew the girls down when its already super cheap compared to US. I had to do damage control with one girl who was great in the sack so I told her I make it up to her by bringing her a gift from the US (victoria secret). Yeah, you need to some how filter out these fools.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;1834674]Same has happened to me in both Tijuana and MDE. I get friends who jew the girls down when its already super cheap compared to US.[/QUOTE]To be clear, I have no problem with someone striking their own bargain as cheap as they can get it, but when they get someone to agree to the price they wanted and then they end up not purchasing anyway is what I have a problem with.

Two men and one women died in Colombia due to Zika virus.

[URL]http://gu.com/p/4ge4f?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other[/URL]

Should we change travel plans?

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1834698]Two men and one women died in Colombia due to Zika virus.

[URL]http://gu.com/p/4ge4f?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1834705]Should we change travel plans?[/QUOTE]I would. Zika doesn't just affect pregnant women. It has been linked to severe neurologic disease in men.

In my many trips to Colombia I don't think I ever got bite by a mosquito.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1834708]I would. Zika doesn't just affect pregnant women. It has been linked to severe neurologic disease in men.[/QUOTE]

My apology, I mistyped woman with women.

The info by the CDC about Zika virus here. [URL]http://www.cdc.gov/zika/index.html[/URL].

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1834698]Two men and one women died in Colombia due to Zika virus.

[URL]http://gu.com/p/4ge4f?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1834705]Should we change travel plans?[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.marketwatch.com/story/your-questions-about-zika-virus-answered-by-an-expert-2016-02-01[/URL]

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1834705]Should we change travel plans?[/QUOTE]Dc If you don't show up I will have your fun for you. If Sadam couldn't kill me Zika don't stand a chance.

Well that settled it. Good read.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;1834750][URL]http://www.marketwatch.com/story/your-questions-about-zika-virus-answered-by-an-expert-2016-02-01[/URL][/QUOTE]

So I got 2 maybe 3 chicas lined up already from Tagged. 2 seem up for some action, the 3rd is looking for a BF. We will see what happens when I get there. I must say getting there attention was not very easy like on DIA. Asian women are a lot easier to chat up online.

Has anybody used Tinder, what's that like?

[QUOTE=Manny51;1834923]Avoiding using racial slurs is not "political correctness. " Its just a sign of being a grown up in the modern world. Complaining about PC as an excuse to be rude is just so low class. Especially on an anonymous forum, where you are not face to face, and not held socially accountable for what you say.

Groan.[/QUOTE]I wonder if paying women for sex is politically correct?

I saw someone asking what is open on Sundays. So I thought I'd make a contribution to the thread about something I came across:

"New Life, Belle Suite and Sexi's are the only ones open on Sunday from 10:30 am to 5 pm. ".

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;1832465]Hey gents,

Which casas are open on Sundays and have the best line-up? I've been to new life once, great selection. Went to Loutron tonight, around 8, but it was already closed. Considering New lLfe again, Energy, Loutron, but need an advice where to go because I've heard some casas might be slow or closed on Sundays, thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1835002]I wonder if paying women for sex is politically correct?[/QUOTE]It is. Refusing to pay them isn't.

Belle Suite was closed down two years ago. NL, Chicas punto and Zandaly are open on Sunday.

[QUOTE=Straddler;1835108]I saw someone asking what is open on Sundays. So I thought I'd make a contribution to the thread about something I came across:

"New Life, Belle Suite and Sexi's are the only ones open on Sunday from 10:30 am to 5 pm. ".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1834985]So I got 2 maybe 3 chicas lined up already from Tagged. 2 seem up for some action, the 3rd is looking for a BF. We will see what happens when I get there. I must say getting there attention was not very easy like on DIA. Asian women are a lot easier to chat up online.

Has anybody used Tinder, what's that like?[/QUOTE]I thought tagged wasn't being used much by most people anymore. I log in once in a while, but seems to all be chatters upselling a dating or live cam site.

May I ask how much work you put into getting 3 lined up? Like how many did you have to tag to get how many girls to respond. Then from that how many actually agreed to meet. I wouldn't even waste time with the 3rd looking for a BF, unless you are actually serious.

DIA is easy because of more desperation, but not was easy as it was years ago.

I just use Facebook, most girls who are looking for customers have 2 accounts, but most are not that careful and leave trails to their real account. Most people on their real FB account are real and honest, so you can really see what their life is all about.

Where they live, who they love what means the most to them. You can also see what they really look like when they aren't all made up to look like a working girl. (I like working girls).

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1835277]I thought tagged wasn't being used much by most people anymore. I log in once in a while, but seems to all be chatters upselling a dating or live cam site.

May I ask how much work you put into getting 3 lined up? Like how many did you have to tag to get how many girls to respond. Then from that how many actually agreed to meet. I wouldn't even waste time with the 3rd looking for a BF, unless you are actually serious.

DIA is easy because of more desperation, but not was easy as it was years ago.

I just use Facebook, most girls who are looking for customers have 2 accounts, but most are not that careful and leave trails to their real account. Most people on their real FB account are real and honest, so you can really see what their life is all about.

Where they live, who they love what means the most to them. You can also see what they really look like when they aren't all made up to look like a working girl. (I like working girls).[/QUOTE]Dude, you put way to much time into this bullshit.

Tagged is working OK for me. Maybe out of 50 I got in touch with five and I now 3 that actually want to meet. I haven't met anyone yet so I will report after The fact. I also heard that picking up chicas from Medellin or Bogotá usually tend to be the hardest to pick up. I tried Cali and BAQ and didn't have much luck. I don't use Facebook because I don't want them getting all up in my business and I don't have the patience to open up a new account.

Anybody use Tinder?

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1835277]I thought tagged wasn't being used much by most people anymore. I log in once in a while, but seems to all be chatters upselling a dating or live cam site.

May I ask how much work you put into getting 3 lined up? Like how many did you have to tag to get how many girls to respond. Then from that how many actually agreed to meet. I wouldn't even waste time with the 3rd looking for a BF, unless you are actually serious.

DIA is easy because of more desperation, but not was easy as it was years ago.

I just use Facebook, most girls who are looking for customers have 2 accounts, but most are not that careful and leave trails to their real account. Most people on their real FB account are real and honest, so you can really see what their life is all about.

Where they live, who they love what means the most to them. You can also see what they really look like when they aren't all made up to look like a working girl. (I like working girls).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldParr;1835426]Dude, you put way to much time into this bullshit.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by bullshit? You mean getting laid?

Yeah I know it is easier to just go to a casa and pay, but I don't mind spending free time online to find a girl and then pay.

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1835277]I thought tagged wasn't being used much by most people anymore.[/QUOTE]I guess that is why I can't beat these broads off of me. I must be the only selection they have. For the past few weeks, Aruba, Philippines, and now Dominican Republic. Since I got here Tuesday I have been through 5 chicks all from Tagged and all for free. One I even made pay for a room because she had lied to me and said I could stay at her place but turned out she is living at her friend's place.

One I am with now just got out of the bed to go buy food. She even brought a friend to hook up with a guy I met today. And the friend came stacked like a brick shithouse. I was about to trade. I have never spent so much time in the bed in my damn life. Shit is sickening. I also have a couple lined up for Medellin next week. Upselling a dating or live cam site? Maybe you are on the wrong tagged, because I have never seen that. Or maybe you are clicking the obvious fake model pictures. I was wondering if people are still falling for that. I guess I have the answer.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1835601]I guess that is why I can't beat these broads off of me. I must be the only selection they have. For the past few weeks, Aruba, Philippines, and now Dominican Republic. Since I got here Tuesday I have been through 5 chicks all from Tagged and all for free. One I even made pay for a room because she had lied to me and said I could stay at her place but turned out she is living at her friend's place.

One I am with now just got out of the bed to go buy food. She even brought a friend to hook up with a guy I met today. And the friend came stacked like a brick shithouse. I was about to trade. I have never spent so much time in the bed in my damn life. Shit is sickening. I also have a couple lined up for Medellin next week. Upselling a dating or live cam site? Maybe you are on the wrong tagged, because I have never seen that. Or maybe you are clicking the obvious fake model pictures. I was wondering if people are still falling for that. I guess I have the answer.[/QUOTE]Thank You for correcting me. It is good to see some of the old sites like Tagged still work. Loading up the new mobile app right now on my iPhone and iPad and tuning my old profile. I thought newer programs like Facebook, Snapchat and Instagram took over, but you proved me wring. Thank You for that.

I was talking more about DIA being a site with chatters trying to upsell a dating site or cam site. Yes, you are right, I try to click on model looking pictures, cause that is my target. Has anyone tried Model Mayhem in Colombia. I have used it in other countries, but you need to build a really good photographer portfolio to make it work.

So one night I was at Parque Lleras, I was speaking with a Taxi driver who spoke good English and asked him to take me to a Casa. I was already kinda drunk so I left it up to him on where he would take me.

What he took me on what seemed to be like a 10 minute ride from Parque Lleras. Once inside I picked a tall slim girl who had dyed red hair. I paid the fee at the little kitchen type bar at the back and was given an orange flavored type of drink. She led me up these spiral stairs to a 2nd floor. The rooms were clean but somewhat dated with rattan type furniture.

I forgot my astro glide lube and my preferred brand of condoms, so for me it wasn't the best session. But I did the deed and was happy with her service. She had no problem with multiple positions and covered BJ.

When I came down the stairs there seemed to be a stag party going on. There was a bunch of guys having a party and had the girls dancing on a low table as they sat around circular couch. I asked if I can take a picture and they didn't have a problem with it. (I shot over 100+ pictures). I spoke to one of the guys and he said he imported used cell phones from the US and sold them in a shop in Cali. He was in town visiting his friends. Nice guy and gave me what he said was better coke then what I would find in Parque Lleras. One thing I noticed about the coke was I could still perform and sleep while doing it. It gave me a feeling of confidence and energy, but didn't get me all sketched out.

Can anyone identify this casa from the pictures?

Dang dude. You are kill'them softly!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1835601]I guess that is why I can't beat these broads off of me. I must be the only selection they have. For the past few weeks, Aruba, Philippines, and now Dominican Republic. Since I got here Tuesday I have been through 5 chicks all from Tagged and all for free. One I even made pay for a room because she had lied to me and said I could stay at her place but turned out she is living at her friend's place.

One I am with now just got out of the bed to go buy food. She even brought a friend to hook up with a guy I met today. And the friend came stacked like a brick shithouse. I was about to trade. I have never spent so much time in the bed in my damn life. Shit is sickening. I also have a couple lined up for Medellin next week. Upselling a dating or live cam site? Maybe you are on the wrong tagged, because I have never seen that. Or maybe you are clicking the obvious fake model pictures. I was wondering if people are still falling for that. I guess I have the answer.[/QUOTE]

Yes please someone Identify the casa because I want to go.

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1835782]So one night I was at Parque Lleras, I was speaking with a Taxi driver who spoke good English and asked him to take me to a Casa. I was already kinda drunk so I left it up to him on where he would take me.

What he took me on what seemed to be like a 10 minute ride from Parque Lleras. Once inside I picked a tall slim girl who had dyed red hair. I paid the fee at the little kitchen type bar at the back and was given an orange flavored type of drink. She led me up these spiral stairs to a 2nd floor. The rooms were clean but somewhat dated with rattan type furniture.

I forgot my astro glide lube and my preferred brand of condoms, so for me it wasn't the best session. But I did the deed and was happy with her service. She had no problem with multiple positions and covered BJ.

When I came down the stairs there seemed to be a stag party going on. There was a bunch of guys having a party and had the girls dancing on a low table as they sat around circular couch. I asked if I can take a picture and they didn't have a problem with it. (I shot over 100+ pictures). I spoke to one of the guys and he said he imported used cell phones from the US and sold them in a shop in Cali. He was in town visiting his friends. Nice guy and gave me what he said was better coke then what I would find in Parque Lleras. One thing I noticed about the coke was I could still perform and sleep while doing it. It gave me a feeling of confidence and energy, but didn't get me all sketched out.

Can anyone identify this casa from the pictures?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1835888]Yes please someone Identify the casa because I want to go.[/QUOTE]Here are a few more pictures. Notice the wood louvered doors on the cabinet.

From what I remember the bed was rattan type, but too bad I wasn't able to get any pictures of the bed to make it easier to identify.

Hi everyone,

I've never been with a hooker or at a brothel so this is all new to me, but I'm going to Medellin to have my first experience. I RTFF about 100 pages here so it gave a general idea of how it works, but I have a couple of questions:

I want to fuck only 8's, 9's and 10's. From what I'm reading here, Loutron, Energy and NewLife are the most upscale casas where I can find that level of girls. Would there be any better places? The place I'm staying, I cannot bring girls so I'd have to stick with casas. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Also, I'm a little bit of a germophob, are these casas really gross?

I'll be in Medellin February 25-March 8. I just paid my subscription here, so feel free to message me if you prefer.

Thank you in advance.

Newguy3

[QUOTE=NewGuy3;1835924]Hi everyone,

I've never been with a hooker or at a brothel so this is all new to me, but I'm going to Medellin to have my first experience. I RTFF about 100 pages here so it gave a general idea of how it works, but I have a couple of questions:

I want to fuck only 8's, 9's and 10's. From what I'm reading here, Loutron, Energy and NewLife are the most upscale casas where I can find that level of girls. Would there be any better places? The place I'm staying, I cannot bring girls so I'd have to stick with casas. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Also, I'm a little bit of a germophob, are these casas really gross?

I'll be in Medellin February 25-March 8. I just paid my subscription here, so feel free to message me if you prefer.

Thank you in advance.

Newguy3[/QUOTE]I wouldn't put New Life in the same group as Loutron and Energy. While there are usually a couple gems there, it's pretty much a lower-quality place -- similar to the other centro casas albeit with great quantity.

In place of New Life, you might try Linda's Chicas.

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1835782]So one night I was at Parque Lleras, I was speaking with a Taxi driver who spoke good English and asked him to take me to a Casa. I was already kinda drunk so I left it up to him on where he would take me.

What he took me on what seemed to be like a 10 minute ride from Parque Lleras. Once inside I picked a tall slim girl who had dyed red hair. I paid the fee at the little kitchen type bar at the back and was given an orange flavored type of drink. She led me up these spiral stairs to a 2nd floor. The rooms were clean but somewhat dated with rattan type furniture.

I forgot my astro glide lube and my preferred brand of condoms, so for me it wasn't the best session. But I did the deed and was happy with her service. She had no problem with multiple positions and covered BJ.

When I came down the stairs there seemed to be a stag party going on. There was a bunch of guys having a party and had the girls dancing on a low table as they sat around circular couch. I asked if I can take a picture and they didn't have a problem with it. (I shot over 100+ pictures). I spoke to one of the guys and he said he imported used cell phones from the US and sold them in a shop in Cali. He was in town visiting his friends. Nice guy and gave me what he said was better coke then what I would find in Parque Lleras. One thing I noticed about the coke was I could still perform and sleep while doing it. It gave me a feeling of confidence and energy, but didn't get me all sketched out.

Can anyone identify this casa from the pictures?[/QUOTE]Looks like Linda's Chicas and the red head is Paola.

[QUOTE=Combo;1836028]I wouldn't put New Life in the same group as Loutron and Energy. While there are usually a couple gems there, it's pretty much a lower-quality place -- similar to the other centro casas albeit with great quantity.

In place of New Life, you might try Linda's Chicas.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the info, Combo.

Is there an even higher level places then Loutron and Energy? Supermodel class? Where are the most gorgeous girls?

Thanks,

Newguy3

"Upscale" LOL.

I would recommend "Thai Spa".

[QUOTE=NewGuy3;1835924]Hi everyone,

I've never been with a hooker or at a brothel so this is all new to me, but I'm going to Medellin to have my first experience. I RTFF about 100 pages here so it gave a general idea of how it works, but I have a couple of questions:

I want to fuck only 8's, 9's and 10's. From what I'm reading here, Loutron, Energy and NewLife are the most upscale casas where I can find that level of girls. Would there be any better places? The place I'm staying, I cannot bring girls so I'd have to stick with casas. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Also, I'm a little bit of a germophob, are these casas really gross?

I'll be in Medellin February 25-March 8. I just paid my subscription here, so feel free to message me if you prefer.

Thank you in advance.

Newguy3[/QUOTE]

Hey gents,

A few days ago I got back from Medellin. It was my first time visiting this city and Colombia in general, I did go by myself, speaking not a single word of Spanish. To those of you who is still debating whether to go or not. My suggestion would be to go ASAP, you will really enjoy the trip like I did. I was staying at Blux Apartmentos (El poblado area, very quiet and safe), 15 minutes walk from famous Parque Lleras. Found the apt through Airbnb and paid roughly 50 $ night, which is not a lot, considering the location and privacy. Definitely recommend to get an apt vs a hotel room, it is cheaper, some apt are really nice and updated, and most likely you won't have any problems bringing chicas over.

Due to the limited time I had, I decided to stick to most popular casas and strip clubs I could find here (check out Medellin lists thread).

New Life.

I have visited this casa 3 times and really liked it because it provides the best value, 75000 Cop / HR or roughly 25 $/ HR. It is not an upscale casa, the rooms are small, dark and.

Dated, and you can hear your neighbor banging a chica on the other side of the wall. But if you don't really care about the rooms, new life is a great choice, at least 10 girls working at all times, ranging from 5 to 8. I'm very picky guy when it comes to chicas, trust me, you will find at least 1 or 2 8's working.

Energy.

I've been there a couple of times, their line-up is kinda similar to new life's, chicas range from 5 to 8 as well, but new life got more girls to choose from. They charge 140,000 COP / or less than 50 $/ HR, but their rooms are way better, bathrooms are cleaner and chicas seemed to care about hygiene more than their new life competitors.

Loutron.

I really liked this casa although they charge 260,000 COP / HR. This casa is considered upscale, it is a huge house up in the mountains (me and my uber driver had a hard time finding it), it is well organized and professionally run. I did count roughly 12 ladies working, ranging from 6 to 9, better quality girls, mostly 7's and 8's, but there is a good chance you will find your 9 there. Ladies are super clean and professional, the rooms are huge and comfortable, on the way out I was asked nicely to rate the girl or leave any feedback, and was offered a cab (there were a few parked outside).

Fase Dos strip club.

Nothing really interesting about the club, the cover is 20 k if I'm not mistaken, they charge 180,000 Cop / HR, lots of ladies working, 6's to 8's mostly, maybe with a couple of 9's, there is a stage in the middle of the room with 1 girl dancing at a time. The other girls were wandering around, looking for a gringo, kinda bored and uninterested, there were a few chicas sitting on the couch with regulars / friends, I basically grabbed the first girl that came off the stage after her dance asking for a tip and off to the room we went. The girl was kinda robotic in bed and asked for a tip after we were done (this is the only place I've been where the girl asked me for a tip at the end of session).

La Isla (The girls).

OK, this is the place where I fucked my 9.5/10, it is pricey, 300,000/ cop / HR but the girl I picked was fucking HOT, young and playful in bed. Took a shower together, followed by a great massage and a wonderful sex. It is an upscale strip club, the chicas quality was the best I have seen, this is kind of place where you pick your 9's and even 10's. I've seen ridiculously hot women there, but try to grab them right after they come off the stage before someone else does. 9's and 10's are popular, every single guy in the club keeps an eye on them, there are also lots of 7's and 8's walking around, looking for client but who cares when there is a 10 dancing on the stage.

Thank you for reading this, and sorry for any grammar mistakes, I don't speak English fluently.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1835903]Here are a few more pictures. Notice the wood louvered doors on the cabinet.

From what I remember the bed was rattan type, but too bad I wasn't able to get any pictures of the bed to make it easier to identify.[/QUOTE]Best guess "Lindas Chicas" Calle 58 con Av. Oriental #50 A - 54.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;1836033]Looks like Linda's Chicas and the red head is Paola.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=MedellinGringo;1836121]Best guess "Lindas Chicas" Calle 58 con Av. Oriental #50 A - 54.[/QUOTE]Yeah from the description on the map "Big White Metal Gate", that sounds right. Because when the let me out to the street, I felt like I was locked in a "Big White Metal Gate".

Paola was really nice, how do you guys rate her compared to what is usually found in centro casas? Has anyone else tried her services?

They were nice enough to let me take around 100 pictures, so when I get around to going through them I will upload some.

Hey everyone,

A clueless newbie here. I have been unable to find the prices to stay at the Mansion, and also wondering how satisfied people have been with it. I am basically looking to score some women and a few beers, possibly a little weed but no hard drugs. Any advice on these things greatly appreciated. Of course, I don't want trouble of any sort with anyone, especially the police.

[QUOTE=JustANewbie;1836349]Hey everyone,

A clueless newbie here. I have been unable to find the prices to stay at the Mansion, and also wondering how satisfied people have been with it. I am basically looking to score some women and a few beers, possibly a little weed but no hard drugs. Any advice on these things greatly appreciated. Of course, I don't want trouble of any sort with anyone, especially the police.[/QUOTE]If you can't figure out how to navigate the Internet or the ISG home page to find a simple answer, you're going to be a danger to yourself in Colombia. Medellin is not the place to be clueless.

On ISG home page == > Colombia == > Casa Blanca Medellin.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3119-Casa-Blanca-Medellin[/URL]

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1946-The-Down-Under-Group-s-Medellin-Mansion[/URL]

Home page:

[URL]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/index.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=NewGuy3;1836034]Thank you for the info, Combo.

Is there an even higher level places then Loutron and Energy? Supermodel class? Where are the most gorgeous girls?

Thanks,

Newguy3[/QUOTE]Lmarcone's suggestion of Thai Spa might be good. I haven't been there yet, but I've heard good things. Also, for night time La Isla might have the best eye candy in MDE (along with loads of silicone). They have rooms on-site.

Honestly I'd be a bit leery of looking for the "even higher-level places. " If you tell people this, they will likely just use it as an excuse to charge you more for the exact same chicas you'll find in other venues (written about here) for much less. Now and then, I've come across guys (both Colombian and extranjero) telling me about their "special stash" of girls that I have to pay more for. I've learned through experience that it's BS.

If you're pushed for time and want to pay up, I recommend hitting Loutron and La Isla. I don't think you're going to find much better quality than they offer, regardless of what you pay. If you have more time, I'd hit a greater variety of the many places mentioned on this site. You'll likely come across just as high-level quality as those two places, just at much lower prices (though you'll have to invest some time in sorting through them).

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;1836115]Hey gents,

A few days ago I got back from Medellin. It was my first time visiting this city and Colombia in general, I did go by myself, speaking not a single word of Spanish. To those of you who is still debating whether to go or not. My suggestion would be to go ASAP, you will really enjoy the trip like I did. I was staying at Blux Apartmentos (El poblado area, very quiet and safe), 15 minutes walk from famous Parque Lleras. Found the apt through Airbnb and paid roughly 50 $ night, which is not a lot, considering the location and privacy. Definitely recommend to get an apt vs a hotel room, it is cheaper, some apt are really nice and updated, and most likely you won't have any problems bringing chicas over.

Due to the limited time I had, I decided to stick to most popular casas and strip clubs I could find here (check out Medellin lists thread).

New Life.

I have visited this casa 3 times and really liked it because it provides the best value, 75000 Cop / HR or roughly 25 $/ HR. It is not an upscale casa, the rooms are small, dark and.

Dated, and you can hear your neighbor banging a chica on the other side of the wall. But if you don't really care about the rooms, new life is a great choice, at least 10 girls working at all times, ranging from 5 to 8. I'm very picky guy when it comes to chicas, trust me, you will find at least 1 or 2 8's working.

Energy.

I've been there a couple of times, their line-up is kinda similar to new life's, chicas range from 5 to 8 as well, but new life got more girls to choose from. They charge 140,000 COP / or less than 50 $/ HR, but their rooms are way better, bathrooms are cleaner and chicas seemed to care about hygiene more than their new life competitors...[/QUOTE]Nice report.

Did you find it safe in Blux apartment. I remember about 2 years ago a guy murdered a model / actress. He raped her and after that threw her from the 13th floor.

I have to admit I'm not sure where to post since this thread has been a lot about getting / changing money and the Zika virus recently, while there's been casa / spa posts in another section called Medellin lists. So my apologies if I'm in the wrong spot.

After I stayed at the Mansion (I have a post for that in that section), I went to a very nice apartment I found on Airbnb which was a 15 minute walk from Parque Lleras up the hill. So I decided I'd try more of the so-called high end of the Medellin scene.

I went to Loutron, and as MiamiBoy said, it was difficult to find. In fact, one taxi driver gave up after 15 minutes and passed me off to another. Nice place, and I had about 10 girls to pick while I sipped on a beer. From and I'd also say they were between a 6 and a 9. Chose a blonde with great long curly hair. She was personable and gave little pretense of a massage. Cost was 260,000. Which is more than the list on another thread says. I don't know if that's just gringo pricing, or they raised their rates. Beer was 15,000.

I also called an agency after reading reviews of some the girls and their performance. Very expensive at $200 for 2 hours (yes, USD). But quick, easy, and dependable. That said, I expected BBBJ. Likely CIM. And maybe even anal (again, other reviews from this agency said these were available). Girl (Valarie) was nice, spoke decent English, and had skills. But the lack of BBBJ will result in me only being able to go once during a two hour stretch. Shame on me for not confirming what was on the table in advance.

I also went to a house a block off Parque Lleras to meet Isabel that I found online (site below). Place was nice, and other girls worked out of there. Chunkier than her picture, but was very accommodating. Cost of 140,000 plus 30,000 for BBBJ.

Finally, after trying the higher end stuff, I decided to do downtown and find one of the low cost strip clubs. I had zero luck, and had to duck and weave through a ruckus crowd of locals drinking beer and working girls (and TS's) working the streets. Interesting scene, but no payoff.

[URL]http://www.paisasdivinas.com.co/prepagos-medellin-independientes-masajistas-paisas/[/URL]

[QUOTE=JustANewbie;1836349]Hey everyone,

A clueless newbie here. I have been unable to find the prices to stay at the Mansion, and also wondering how satisfied people have been with it. I am basically looking to score some women and a few beers, possibly a little weed but no hard drugs. Any advice on these things greatly appreciated. Of course, I don't want trouble of any sort with anyone, especially the police.[/QUOTE]Clueless newbies are best off staying at the Mansion. Buy your weed from Boyd (part owner).

[QUOTE=JustANewbie;1836349]Hey everyone,
I am basically looking to score some women and a few beers, possibly a little weed [/QUOTE]I can help you with hookers and weed, but someone with more experience is going to have to advise you how to find beer.

Can you confirm that the agency was escortsincolombia?

I have been wondering about this agency. All the good reviews on the big American site are by one guy. He does have lot of NYC reviews, but one lady he reviewed and gave a 10/10, I also saw and would have given her a 6/8. So I did not think they were fake reviews, and I was interested in this agency since so many of his reviews indicate that CIM and Greek are offered.

But if this was the agency, then I am starting to wonder what is up if she did not offer what that reviewer said. It is highly accurate on USA Reviews, but I have been burned before on fake South America reviews. We're the pictures accurate?

Thanks for any input. Has anyone else used this agency?

[QUOTE=RedTibetan23;1836515]I have to admit I'm not sure where to post since this thread has been a lot about getting / changing money and the Zika virus recently, while there's been casa / spa posts in another section called Medellin lists. So my apologies if I'm in the wrong spot.

After I stayed at the Mansion (I have a post for that in that section), I went to a very nice apartment I found on Airbnb which was a 15 minute walk from Parque Lleras up the hill. So I decided I'd try more of the so-called high end of the Medellin scene.

I went to Loutron, and as MiamiBoy said, it was difficult to find. In fact, one taxi driver gave up after 15 minutes and passed me off to another. Nice place, and I had about 10 girls to pick while I sipped on a beer. From and I'd also say they were between a 6 and a 9. Chose a blonde with great long curly hair. She was personable and gave little pretense of a massage. Cost was 260,000. Which is more than the list on another thread says. I don't know if that's just gringo pricing, or they raised their rates. Beer was 15,000.

I also called an agency after reading reviews of some the girls and their performance. Very expensive at $200 for 2 hours (yes, USD). But quick, easy, and dependable. That said, I expected BBBJ. Likely CIM. And maybe even anal (again, other reviews from this agency said these were available). Girl (Valarie) was nice, spoke decent English, and had skills. But the lack of BBBJ will result in me only being able to go once during a two hour stretch. Shame on me for not confirming what was on the table in advance.

I also went to a house a block off Parque Lleras to meet Isabel that I found online (site below). Place was nice, and other girls worked out of there. Chunkier than her picture, but was very accommodating. Cost of 140,000 plus 30,000 for BBBJ.

Finally, after trying the higher end stuff, I decided to do downtown and find one of the low cost strip clubs. I had zero luck, and had to duck and weave through a ruckus crowd of locals drinking beer and working girls (and TS's) working the streets. Interesting scene, but no payoff.

[URL]http://www.paisasdivinas.com.co/prepagos-medellin-independientes-masajistas-paisas/[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1834698]Two men and one women died in Colombia due to Zika virus.

[URL]http://gu.com/p/4ge4f?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes, but how many died during the same period from auto wrecks? I ask myself if I should I worry about riding in a car? Typically, this sort of thing is vastly overdone in the media. Of course, that's little comfort to those who actually do get it. I would think there's a greater risk, by far, of catching genital herpes.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;1836593]Clueless newbies are best off staying at the Mansion. Buy your weed from Boyd (part owner).[/QUOTE]Probably going to spend my first few days at Jake's place. Will give report here. Planning to take his tours as well. Then a few days at the Mansion, then I am not sure. My expectations of both will be quite reasonable. Planning to study a little Spanish to prep myself a bit, but I have no illusions about being able to effectively communicate. Google translate is going to be my friend.

Speaking of this, where is the best place to buy a SIM? I will be buying an unlocked android phone on Amazon, and I was hoping that the airport would be a good place to buy this without grossly overpaying.

[QUOTE=JustANewbie;1836780]Probably going to spend my first few days at Jake's place. Will give report here. Planning to take his tours as well. Then a few days at the Mansion, then I am not sure. My expectations of both will be quite reasonable. Planning to study a little Spanish to prep myself a bit, but I have no illusions about being able to effectively communicate. Google translate is going to be my friend.

Speaking of this, where is the best place to buy a SIM? I will be buying an unlocked android phone on Amazon, and I was hoping that the airport would be a good place to buy this without grossly overpaying.[/QUOTE]Make sure you bring proof of purchase of the phone with you or the phone company will not activate it. There is a new law outlawing phones not purchased in Colombia, it was put in place to cut down on stolen phones entering the market. All IED numbers are registered now in Colombia.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1836798]Make sure you bring proof of purchase of the phone with you or the phone company will not activate it. There is a new law outlawing phones not purchased in Colombia, it was put in place to cut down on stolen phones entering the market. All IED numbers are registered now in Colombia.[/QUOTE]So if I purchase a new phone on Amazon and bring it into the country (with receipt), I'll be OK? I am looking to get unlimited service for 10 days. I was hoping to have this issue resolved before I left the Airport. Is that possible?

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1836798]Make sure you bring proof of purchase of the phone with you or the phone company will not activate it. There is a new law outlawing phones not purchased in Colombia, it was put in place to cut down on stolen phones entering the market. All IED numbers are registered now in Colombia.[/QUOTE][URL]http://hkmb.hktdc.com/en/1X0A4787/hktdc-research/Colombia-Adopts-Restrictions-on-Cell-Phone-Imports[/URL]

Looks interesting.

What was the damage in that place?

Eventually someone will recognize it.

BTW is anyone on the board having luck with badoo?

The site isn't what it used to be I find.

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1835903]Here are a few more pictures. Notice the wood louvered doors on the cabinet.

From what I remember the bed was rattan type, but too bad I wasn't able to get any pictures of the bed to make it easier to identify.[/QUOTE]

I have not been asked for any proof of purchase of two different phones I have had to get a sim card for. One at Claro, and the other at Tigo. Been to Colombia twice since New Years.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1836798]Make sure you bring proof of purchase of the phone with you or the phone company will not activate it. There is a new law outlawing phones not purchased in Colombia, it was put in place to cut down on stolen phones entering the market. All IED numbers are registered now in Colombia.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;1836710]Can you confirm that the agency was escortsincolombia?

I have been wondering about this agency. All the good reviews on the big American site are by one guy. He does have lot of NYC reviews, but one lady he reviewed and gave a 10/10, I also saw and would have given her a 6/8. So I did not think they were fake reviews, and I was interested in this agency since so many of his reviews indicate that CIM and Greek are offered.

But if this was the agency, then I am starting to wonder what is up if she did not offer what that reviewer said. It is highly accurate on USA Reviews, but I have been burned before on fake South America reviews. We're the pictures accurate?

Thanks for any input. Has anyone else used this agency?[/QUOTE]Mongerer88,

Yes, that was the agency.

To be clear, while there were 2 reviews (I just added a third for her). I did not see them until after I spent time with her (the guy who runs the agency sent them to me after I went back to him and shared my disappointment. It sounds like you may belong to the same site. Sorry to be cryptic, I just don't know if we are allowed to mention it by name here. And I have no idea why she didn't pop up when I searched on Medellin. Those reviews indicated the sessions were CBJ and made no mention of anal. And they were not by the guy who did the others you've probably seen. I had touched base with the same guy ahead of time, and my impression is he's a straightforward guy, whose review scores might be more biased towards the higher end than mine.

My mistake was assuming that since a bunch of girls from this agency did X, Y, and Z that all of them did. That's my experience here in NYC. I'd suggest just touching base with Omar via email. He's very responsive. And let him know what you expect.

As far as the pictures. He sent me a link ahead of time, including her face. It was definitely the girl. I would say, though, she was maybe 10 pounds heavier than the pictures indicated. Although she was tall and that muted the effect.

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1836938]I have not been asked for any proof of purchase of two different phones I have had to get a sim card for. One at Claro, and the other at Tigo. Been to Colombia twice since New Years.[/QUOTE]I've never had a problem and I've brought 2 different phones on each trip. No questions. I go to the claro in the Santa Fe. I guess because gringos come down all the time, they don't ask questions. Now when my paisa GF brought hers into the same place, she had to show proof. She then came and got me and there was no questions after that. LOL.

[QUOTE=JustANewbie;1836780]

Speaking of this, where is the best place to buy a SIM? I will be buying an unlocked android phone on Amazon, and I was hoping that the airport would be a good place to buy this without grossly overpaying.[/QUOTE]Any Claro store will sell you a sim card. Never been asked to show them my phone. I guess if I had to. I'd show them my girlfriend's phone and say I'm buying a new sim for this one.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;1836980]I've never had a problem and I've brought 2 different phones on each trip. No questions. I go to the claro in the Santa Fe. I guess because gringos come down all the time, they don't ask questions. Now when my paisa GF brought hers into the same place, she had to show proof. She then came and got me and there was no questions after that. LOL.[/QUOTE]Okay that makes sense, I would bring proof of purchase just in case they asked as we all know that there are inconsistencies in how things like this are handled.

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1835903]Here are a few more pictures. Notice the wood louvered doors on the cabinet.

From what I remember the bed was rattan type, but too bad I wasn't able to get any pictures of the bed to make it easier to identify.[/QUOTE]The place is Nancy's / Lindas Chicas / Casa de Piedras. Most of the time, not so much lately, they have great looking girls that provide great service.

Nancy and her sister the dragon lady are pretty greasy operators. I've taken guys in there quite a bit, and they're often trying to raise the prices of everything depending on what they think they can get away with. The whole thing is pretty annoying. I was in there a couple of weeks ago, and a taxi brought in an American kid from DC. Nancy asked me to translate, and I explained to the guy the prices and such, and Nancy kept trying to get me to tell the kid it was 300 k (instead of 180 k), plus 50 k for drinks. I told her I'd already told the guy it was the normal 180 k, and she kept trying to coach me through the scam. I refused for obvious reasons.

Until recently, navigating Nancy's slimy mechanics was something that was justified by the quality of the girls and the level of service provided. But lately all the girls look like they've been recruited from low-end strip clubs, so avoiding the place has been easier.

Paolo / Sofia / et al, the redhead in the picture, is a solid performer. I often pass her number to my guys when they ask for outcall. She has a couple of solid friends as well.

Well, it's looking like 3 to 4 days at Jake's, a day or two at the mansion, and the rest of the time (6 nights) in a very nice apartment I rented in the Parque LLeras. It's great to have a way to read up on these trips and get some contacts. Long live the monger boards! I have expanded my budget to $3000 for this trip. No sense on being too cheap to have fun! I should have around $150 a day for mongering, which isn't a great amount, but it should do the trick. I am not so much concerned with racking up huge numbers rather than saving my opportunities for the girls who really catch my eye. In my mind, one hot one is worth several average ones. I'd rather pay $200 for a 10 than $50 each for four 7's. Just how I want to spend my money this trip.

As you do anything, you become more proficient and you learn how to get a better value for the $. The plan is to make a lot of contacts at the Mansion for my fake FB account for the chicas. Well, you guys know the rest.

I've seen the website. I'm wondering what special services are offered there, and what the prices are. Can't find much in the way of discussion in the threads.

[QUOTE=NewGuy3;1835924]Hi everyone,

I've never been with a hooker or at a brothel so this is all new to me, but I'm going to Medellin to have my first experience. I RTFF about 100 pages here so it gave a general idea of how it works, but I have a couple of questions:

I want to fuck only 8's, 9's and 10's. From what I'm reading here, Loutron, Energy and NewLife are the most upscale casas where I can find that level of girls. Would there be any better places? The place I'm staying, I cannot bring girls so I'd have to stick with casas. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Also, I'm a little bit of a germophob, are these casas really gross?

I'll be in Medellin February 25-March 8. I just paid my subscription here, so feel free to message me if you prefer.

Thank you in advance.

Newguy3[/QUOTE]One of my favorite places for good talent is lejano oriente. Haven't been there since June 2014 but every time I'm in Medellin I go. I've picked up some real good looking girls from there. I only do take out but they have rooms available on site. Relaxed atmosphere, the owner and his wife are really cool. They have girls from Medellin and all over Colombia Cali, Bogota, ect. They have rooms where these girls can stay in house for weeks at a time. Like for the busy seasons la feria, or in December. You get a lot of girls over there from every where.

I do believe they are not open during the day I think they open at around 10 pm.

Is it possible to arrange a room once you are already down there? Is it typically full with all rooms sold out?

[QUOTE=JustANewbie;1837296]Well, it's looking like 3 to 4 days at Jake's, a day or two at the mansion, and the rest of the time (6 nights) in a very nice apartment I rented in the Parque LLeras. It's great to have a way to read up on these trips and get some contacts. Long live the monger boards! I have expanded my budget to $3000 for this trip. No sense on being too cheap to have fun! I should have around $150 a day for mongering, which isn't a great amount, but it should do the trick. I am not so much concerned with racking up huge numbers rather than saving my opportunities for the girls who really catch my eye. In my mind, one hot one is worth several average ones. I'd rather pay $200 for a 10 than $50 each for four 7's. Just how I want to spend my money this trip.

As you do anything, you become more proficient and you learn how to get a better value for the $. The plan is to make a lot of contacts at the Mansion for my fake FB account for the chicas. Well, you guys know the rest.[/QUOTE]I reread this, and I have to say that the $200 I'd pay for a ten would include 2 hours, BBBJ and CIM. I'd never toss $200 for one pop.

Thinking of doing a threesome at New Life just for kicks, since it's so damn cheap. At the risk of sounding stupid, what's the etiquette with threesomes? Do you have to change condoms when switching girls? How much would you typically tip the girls for BBBJ + DFK kind of stuff? I think I overtipped at energy with 40 k. Would like to CIM for the ending as well.

[QUOTE=JustANewbie;1837296]Well, it's looking like 3 to 4 days at Jake's, a day or two at the mansion, and the rest of the time (6 nights) in a very nice apartment I rented in the Parque LLeras. It's great to have a way to read up on these trips and get some contacts. Long live the monger boards! I have expanded my budget to $3000 for this trip. No sense on being too cheap to have fun! I should have around $150 a day for mongering, which isn't a great amount, but it should do the trick. I am not so much concerned with racking up huge numbers rather than saving my opportunities for the girls who really catch my eye. In my mind, one hot one is worth several average ones. I'd rather pay $200 for a 10 than $50 each for four 7's. Just how I want to spend my money this trip.

As you do anything, you become more proficient and you learn how to get a better value for the $. The plan is to make a lot of contacts at the Mansion for my fake FB account for the chicas. Well, you guys know the rest.[/QUOTE]I like your plan.

If you don't mind later when you do your report, can you break down the expense report.

Good idea with going with established places like Jake's and the Mansion to get a lay of the area. Is Jake freaky about meeting his girls later, if you find one that clicks? From what I understand the Mansion girls are freelances anyway, so that is not a problem getting their contact info and meeting them later.

I am also looking at some apartments / condos on AirBnB for a future trip, but I am still not decided if I should go back to a hotel. I like the idea of a hotel because of the security and maid service and I also like to eat out when on vacation. But an apartment / condo could be a lot nicer and may give more freedom to inviting multiple girls over a day or at once with out having to pay an additional joiner feed. What made you decide on an apartment rather than a hotel?

[QUOTE=JustANewbie;1837326]Is it possible to arrange a room once you are already down there? Is it typically full with all rooms sold out?[/QUOTE]From what I read it books out well in advance.

But you should try posting on their forum: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3119-Casa-Blanca-Medellin[/URL].

JustANewbie,

Your plan sounds good, but you are planning to spend too much for pussy. Keep in mind you are going to be in Colombia and you need to start thinking in Colombian pesos COP and not dollars. 200 USD is about 67800 o COP at current conversion which more than the month salary in Colombia. What I am trying to say is that $200 is a lot of money in Colombia. For example, for 1 hour with a chica in New Life, an 8, a 9 and even a 10 type of girl, is just 70 k COP or just 20 USD, haft hour 40 k or 12 USD. Even if you go to the highest end casa like Loutron (200-250 K that is just 70-80 USD). You can also save a lot with accommodations once you become comfortable and familiar with Medellin and rent an apartment by day or find a budget chica friendly hotel in an area you like. Believe it or not but in my last trip which was two full weeks, I spent about 1000 USD total and that included my flight from NY (480 USD), and the rest I spent on good food, several tours, and about 13 chicas, and accommodations, etc but I was only getting girls from the centro casas, and alternated staying in a hostel in Poblado (30 K or 8 USD per day) and an aparta studio in Laureles (90 k or 27 USD per night). Lastly, I would advised you not to share too much to people about finances in Colombia and to keep what you plan to or have to spend to yourself because you could attract thieves and scammers. Even in this board there are mongers that cannot be trusted and want your money or an easy opportunity. As they say in Colombia, "Don't give Papaya, or they are going to take it from you. And Have fun.

[QUOTE=JustANewbie;1837296]Well, it's looking like 3 to 4 days at Jake's, a day or two at the mansion, and the rest of the time (6 nights) in a very nice apartment I rented in the Parque LLeras. It's great to have a way to read up on these trips and get some contacts. Long live the monger boards! I have expanded my budget to $3000 for this trip. No sense on being too cheap to have fun! I should have around $150 a day for mongering, which isn't a great amount, but it should do the trick. I am not so much concerned with racking up huge numbers rather than saving my opportunities for the girls who really catch my eye. In my mind, one hot one is worth several average ones. I'd rather pay $200 for a 10 than $50 each for four 7's. Just how I want to spend my money this trip.
As you do anything, you become more proficient and you learn how to get a better value for the $. The plan is to make a lot of contacts at the Mansion for my fake FB account for the chicas. Well, you guys know the rest.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1837379]I like your plan.

If you don't mind later when you do your report, can you break down the expense report.

Good idea with going with established places like Jake's and the Mansion to get a lay of the area. Is Jake freaky about meeting his girls later, if you find one that clicks? From what I understand the Mansion girls are freelances anyway, so that is not a problem getting their contact info and meeting them later.

I am also looking at some apartments / condos on AirBnB for a future trip, but I am still not decided if I should go back to a hotel. I like the idea of a hotel because of the security and maid service and I also like to eat out when on vacation. But an apartment / condo could be a lot nicer and may give more freedom to inviting multiple girls over a day or at once with out having to pay an additional joiner feed. What made you decide on an apartment rather than a hotel?[/QUOTE]Whatever Jake's terms are, I'll comply. A deal is a deal and I honor my word above all else. I'm sure there will be plenty of girls to choose from so I won't need to do any repeats. I would like to leave everyone happy with me because I'd like to return everywhere with open arms. There are plenty to meet at the MP scene. Besides, I'm not the wife up type anyway. Never one more than once. I've already got a couple of mansion girls I'm chatting with that I have no intention of hooking up with, just friending. I chose the apartment because it's very nice and right in the middle of the party scene, yet I can have my own little world. And the apartment is really upscale with glowing reviews. Besides mongering, I'm looking for a vacation and an opportunity to meet regular people without the stigma of being a gringo at the mansion. So we'll say it's 5 days of mongering and six days of vacation.

[QUOTE=JustANewbie;1837468]Whatever Jake's terms are, I'll comply. A deal is a deal and I honor my word above all else. I'm sure there will be plenty of girls to choose from so I won't need to do any repeats. I would like to leave everyone happy with me because I'd like to return everywhere with open arms.[/QUOTE]Honestly I don't know what the deal is, that is why I am curious. I am in no way trying to insulate doing something underhanded to cheat. From what I understand a guy pays a commission to be introduced to girls. I am fine with that, from what I see he is providing an honest service that both benefits the monger and the girls. But are you locked into paying commissions for the rest of your life?

For example. I have met girls at strip clubs, then later met them in a normal bar or after hours bar were they go to freelance. It could be weeks or months after the first time I met them, but I have had the strip club owners tell me I owed them money because it was their strip club I initially met them.

But I agree there is no reason to try scam or cheat and then not be welcome somewhere. Even more so in a small place like Medellin.

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1837757]

For example. I have met girls at strip clubs, then later met them in a normal bar or after hours bar were they go to freelance. It could be weeks or months after the first time I met them, but I have had the strip club owners tell me I owed them money because it was their strip club I initially met them.

[/QUOTE]Where did this happen to you?

I have never heard of anything like this ever happening anywhere in Colombia.

Just how did or would an owner find something like that out?. From you?. The girl? Or some kind of spy. Jajaja.

Hola Dudes,

Checked into this Hotel late Tuesday night. It's a really nice hotel The room I'm staying in is basically like a small apartment. The bed is comfortable, water in the shower is hot, and breakfast served in the morning was very good. They have a small lap pool on the top floor, along with a Sauna, and nice washers + dryers too. They have an exercise room, but it's just a couple of treadmills, and a piece of equipment that you may be able to do a few exercises. The area is really quiet at night, and about a five minute cab ride to Park Lleras. If I were staying here for a week or less, I'd book at this place again. Since I'll be here for a month, $80 a night is a little more than I'd like to spend. I booked a private room for the following week at a place called the Happy Buddha Hostel. It's going to be around $48 a night.

Every Wednesday, a group meets in the bar of The Buddha Hostel for a pub crawl. There was about 50 people there last night. It was all young backpackers from the States and Europe. Went to about 5 bars around the Provenza area of Poblado which is a couple of blocks south of Park Lleras. Had a good time even though I was twice the age of everyone. The Australian guy calling everyone the see word was pretty hilarious. Finally found someone who uses that word more than I do. Another kid we named Jesus looked to be comatose. Later in the night, this dude was salsa dancing like a pro. I guess even Jesus can salsa down here! Things got a little fuzzy towards the end of the night once the shots and cervezas started to kick in. Went to some after hour bar. Last thing I remember was meeting a Paisa. Apparently, I couldn't close or she would've been in my bed this morning.

I went ahead and joined a gym called Bodytech. They have several locations throughout the city. The one I joined is located in the Mall at Vizcaya. It has all the equipment you'll need to do a proper workout. A lot of big ass women to checkout while your grinding thru your workout. Price for the month was 247,000 pesos.

If anyone wants to meet up, send me a PM, or hit me up at my Hotel, room 8 dee.

Late,

Judd.

Need to make reservation ahead of time. Yesterday I got a response saying that next availability is on Tuesday 02/16.

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1837381]From what I read it books out well in advance.

But you should try posting on their forum: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3119-Casa-Blanca-Medellin[/URL].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1837757]Honestly I don't know what the deal is, that is why I am curious. I am in no way trying to insulate doing something underhanded to cheat. From what I understand a guy pays a commission to be introduced to girls. I am fine with that, from what I see he is providing an honest service that both benefits the monger and the girls. But are you locked into paying commissions for the rest of your life?

For example. I have met girls at strip clubs, then later met them in a normal bar or after hours bar were they go to freelance. It could be weeks or months after the first time I met them, but I have had the strip club owners tell me I owed them money because it was their strip club I initially met them.

But I agree there is no reason to try scam or cheat and then not be welcome somewhere. Even more so in a small place like Medellin.[/QUOTE]In all honesty, how many times am I going to come to Medellin? Maybe 2 or 3 more in my life. There are other places to go, and I would rather leave Jake very happy to see me vs. Feeling like I'm making contacts with his girls and spreading them out to other mongers. A deal is a deal and what ever it is about, I strive to make my word the standard I behave by. That said, it's really a non issue to me because, hey. I don't want to repeat anyway. Variety is the spice of life. I want to go to the Philippines, Ukraine, Latvia, and about a dozen other countries. This is just my first rodeo.

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1837757]For example. I have met girls at strip clubs, then later met them in a normal bar or after hours bar were they go to freelance. It could be weeks or months after the first time I met them, but I have had the strip club owners tell me I owed them money because it was their strip club I initially met them.[/QUOTE]So what if I first meet them in a casa during the day them see them at the strip club at night as was the case last month when I was here? Would the casa owner then track me down or harass me for money the next time I was there? I would just tell him to go get it from the strip club owner.

Hola Fellas,

I went down to the Park Lleras area to grab a bite to eat. I ended up at a restaurant that just opened located next to Patrick's Irish Pub. Sorry, but the name escapes me. The waitress recommended the sausage with mashed potatoes. It was really good. The only downside was the glass of wine I ordered couldn't have been more than 3 or 4 ounces. There was a really hot chica sitting at the table across from me. I didn't find out til later that she was a working girl. Hopefully, I'll catch up with her on another day. A lot of nice talent strolling around that area.

I met a couple of Canadians hanging out at Patrick's Pub. They gave me some Intel on a club where the chicas supposedly go after their finished working. They said it was a couple of blocks away from Luna Lunera directly behind or near some place called "The Bam Bam Bar". I didn't have any luck finding this place. I seem to remember someone mentioning it on the board. If anyone knows where it's located, please let me know.

I checked out Luna Lunera located on Avenida 33 near Carrera 65. There was no entrance fee. There was about 20 chicas working. Some nice talent. The Waiter told me the price was 140,000 for half hour. That seemed a little high to me. I thanked him for the info and left. Still trying to find this after hour place, a cab driver took me to Kassandra Bellas Chicas. It's located on Calle 33 No. 66 be-107. They are open 24 hours. I went at around 2:00 am and they only had 2 chicas working. One skinny, and one on the chunky side. I believe the price was 70 k for half hour. Sorry for not knowing the exact price. I was trying to figure out a polite way to say I was not interested when the madamn was quoting the prices to me.

Late,

Judd.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1837833]So what if I first meet them in a casa during the day them see them at the strip club at night as was the case last month when I was here? Would the casa owner then track me down or harass me for money the next time I was there? I would just tell him to go get it from the strip club owner.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;1837768]Where did this happen to you?

I have never heard of anything like this ever happening anywhere in Colombia.

Just how did or would an owner find something like that out?. From you?. The girl? Or some kind of spy. Jajaja.[/QUOTE]This did not happen to me in Colombia, but I guess it could happen anywhere.

I was not on vacation, I was a long term resident (5 years at the time), so I got to know a lot of the working girls and foreign bar owners. The working girls and the foreign bar owners of course pretend to treat me like a friend, but I know in the end, their business is to extract as much money as they can from me. I fully understand that and I am OK with it.

I guess some people who are in the business of introducing us to a girls, either through a set up date, owning a club or casa, where we can be "introduced" to a girl, get a pimp mentality. They think since they introduced you to the girl, they expect payment. That is their business and how they make money to support themselves. It funds the overhead to operate the business. They are not doing it for fun or a hobby.

So when you live somewhere for a long time, in a small community with a sex industry, eventually everyone knows everyone. You may not bang a girl on the initial introduction, but some day it may happen. So how long does that "referral" fee last. I don't know to be honest.

That is why I was asking how Jake's business operates. From what I understand if you rent an apartment from him, it includes a possible tour or introduction to girls, that may not even guarantee to get laid. So if you are just getting info that you can use later in life. I don't see it as a problem. Maybe I am wrong.

What happens if you go to a casa just to get the girls contact info with out using the service of the casa? You just go there to get the girls contact info to meet her outside the casa. Of course you are not paying an entrance fee and the girl is not kicking back the casa.

I am sure a lot of guy have seen the entire industry change since the internet has come into use. In some location the casa or bar industry has gotten smaller because we can connect and transact business using the internet directly with the girls. Even finding girls who in the past would never think of working in a casa or bar.

It sounds as thought you got scammed by a pimp of the strip club or owner. He may own the club or be a pimp there, but does not own the girls, same apply to any legal place in Medellin. Once you outside of any strip club or casa that charges a take out fee is all up to the girl to see you again outside their working place and you don't go back to the place to pay the owner because you saw the girl outside again. Pimping is illegal too.

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1837757]

For example. I have met girls at strip clubs, then later met them in a normal bar or after hours bar were they go to freelance. It could be weeks or months after the first time I met them, but I have had the strip club owners tell me I owed them money because it was their strip club I initially met them.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1837989]This did not happen to me in Colombia, but I guess it could happen anywhere.

I was not on vacation, I was a long term resident (5 years at the time), so I got to know a lot of the working girls and foreign bar owners. The working girls and the foreign bar owners of course pretend to treat me like a friend, but I know in the end, their business is to extract as much money as they can from me. I fully understand that and I am OK with it.

I guess some people who are in the business of introducing us to a girls, either through a set up date, owning a club or casa, where we can be "introduced" to a girl, get a pimp mentality. They think since they introduced you to the girl, they expect payment. That is their business and how they make money to support themselves. It funds the overhead to operate the business. They are not doing it for fun or a hobby.

So when you live somewhere for a long time, in a small community with a sex industry, eventually everyone knows everyone. You may not bang a girl on the initial introduction, but some day it may happen. So how long does that "referral" fee last..[/QUOTE]I'm sure it's changed a lot with social media. Even I've been able to make quite a few contacts well before my trip. Despite this, I think it's more fun to see what hits my eye when I'm there vs. Planning too much. Planning beforehand can get you a busted can of biscuits when she takes her clothes off. So I'm not going to over analyze the situation. IMO, there's not much long term in this because last year's 10 can be this year's 7. I want the fresh girls, and those who stay there year round will always have a valuable service to offer, IMO.

If it's a big deal that an owner's girls are dating his customers on the outside, I would think the owner would have more leverage with the girls than he would with you. But a guy like me isn't going to be down there that often, as most of us aren't. I'd rather have an operator coordinate things for me and I do hope he or she makes a buck doing it. When I look at the overall cost vs. What it costs to date women in America, it's still much, much less expensive and the girls are 10 times hotter than what I could get in this country. Plus the fact that you are going to get back on the plane when it's all said and done. So I'm ready to be a happy customer for those who guide the newbies.

A few years ago in the 9 stripper bars in el centro, 2 have since closed, it used be be 4 or 5 flaquitas to 1 gordo, now I see 1 flaca to 3 gordos and 1 ballena, Spanish for whale, saw a beautiful flaquita in Conejitas last Saturday who I had not seen in over 2 years, talking with her she said she had been in Singapore for 2 years.

The problem is that Colombians like fat girls- whatever they are called. They don't find slim girls attractive, so the clubs hire only few of them.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1838083]A few years ago in the 9 stripper bars in el centro, 2 have since closed, it used be be 4 or 5 flaquitas to 1 gordo, now I see 1 flaca to 3 gordos and 1 ballena, Spanish for whale, saw a beautiful flaquita in Conejitas last Saturday who I had not seen in over 2 years, talking with her she said she had been in Singapore for 2 years.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1835601]I guess that is why I can't beat these broads off of me. I must be the only selection they have. For the past few weeks, Aruba, Philippines, and now Dominican Republic. Since I got here Tuesday I have been through 5 chicks all from Tagged and all for free. One I even made pay for a room because she had lied to me and said I could stay at her place but turned out she is living at her friend's place.

One I am with now just got out of the bed to go buy food. She even brought a friend to hook up with a guy I met today. And the friend came stacked like a brick shithouse. I was about to trade. I have never spent so much time in the bed in my damn life. Shit is sickening. I also have a couple lined up for Medellin next week. Upselling a dating or live cam site? Maybe you are on the wrong tagged, because I have never seen that. Or maybe you are clicking the obvious fake model pictures. I was wondering if people are still falling for that. I guess I have the answer.[/QUOTE]I opened up an old tagged account after reading your post. Wow. 50 hits from DR in first 24 hours, now texting 6 on Whatsup, all could be my granddaughters, only 3 hits from Colombia, all grandmothers.

Anyone been to this place? On my way back from Luna Lunera, I noticed this place tucked away on a corner between the higway that divides Poblado and Laurerles. I googl'd it earlier today, and it is indeed a strip club. Any prior experiences, let me know?

Thank You,

[QUOTE=Judd;1838341]Anyone been to this place? On my way back from Luna Lunera, I noticed this place tucked away on a corner between the higway that divides Poblado and Laurerles. I googl'd it earlier today, and it is indeed a strip club. Any prior experiences, let me know?

Thank You,[/QUOTE]Many reviews of this club in old posts. These days it is a hit or miss. I would rate it 4th among non centro clubs, behind Luna Lunera.

So far so good.

Been having a great time here in Mde. Meet up with a member and his friends from this forum. We went to a brothel near Artesanias on Calle 61. Didn't get the name of the spot but its on Calle 61 and Cra 63. Almost on the corner. Its on calle 61. White door to walk up to the second floor. They have a nice balcony that is literally on the corner. You might see some chicas or locals chillin on the balcony. There line up was very good. 7,8. Very friendly young chicas. About ten to choose from. I say its a brothel and not a casa because they don't present the chicas. The chicas are just chillin waiting for you to approach them. You can drink and party with them before you fuck'them. Price was 30 k plus 10 k for room I think. Dirty cheap. FYI most chicas like to smoke weed and have a great time. We closed the place down at 7 pm and the chica I fucked invited us to Jenny's Strip club (new) a few doors down. Moslty all the hot chicas that we partied with work at this small new locals strip club after 7 pm. Jenny's is a few houses down from where we were. They have Christmas light around the door. Its before Artesanias. So if you past that you went to far. There is a bar with pool tables just 2 or 3 houses next to it. Between us 4 guys and and 6 chicas we drank 4 small bottles of rum totaling 115 k. Yes $35 us dollar bar tab. It was a blast. One guy took two chicas at once. He was my hero. LOL. They have a stripper pole with chicas dancing regularly. After that we went to dinner and I crashed from a days travel. Woke up at 3 am to see what I could get from the chicas leaving barra Ejectiva and Maracaibo. To be continued.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1838955]So far so good.

Been having a great time here in Mde. Meet up with a member and his friends from this forum. We went to a brothel near Artesanias on Calle 61. Didn't get the name of the spot but its on Calle 61 and Cra 63. Almost on the corner. Its on calle 61. White door to walk up to the second floor. They have a nice balcony that is literally on the corner. You might see some chicas or locals chillin on the balcony. There line up was very good. 7,8. Very friendly young chicas. About ten to choose from. I say its a brothel and not a casa because they don't present the chicas. The chicas are just chillin waiting for you to approach them. You can drink and party with them before you fuck'them. Price was 30 k plus 10 k for room I think. Dirty cheap. FYI most chicas like to smoke weed and have a great time. We closed the place down at 7 pm and the chica I fucked invited us to Jenny's Strip club (new) a few doors down. Moslty all the hot chicas that we partied with work at this small new locals strip club after 7 pm. Jenny's is a few houses down from where we were. They have Christmas light around the door. Its before Artesanias. So if you past that you went to far. There is a bar with pool tables just 2 or 3 houses next to it. Between us 4 guys and and 6 chicas we drank 4 small bottles of rum totaling 115 k. Yes $35 us dollar bar tab. It was a blast. One guy took two chicas at once. He was my hero. LOL. They have a stripper pole with chicas dancing regularly. After that we went to dinner and I crashed from a days travel. Woke up at 3 am to see what I could get from the chicas leaving barra Ejectiva and Maracaibo. To be continued.[/QUOTE]Can you give me directions on a map so I can get to this place on calle 61?

Thanks in advance, interesting.

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I'm a long time visitor to MDE, but due to a scheduling conflict, this is the first time since 2009 that I did not have someone something to do on a Sunday night. Also, I am guiding a buddy on his first trip down, and due to cancelled flights he only has a few days left, so I don't want to let him down.

Took a cab to downtown from Poblado area, its 22 K COP as we visited 2 more casas before landing at Newlife.

Visited Abidos around 4:45, it is closed. Next stop is at Energy at 5 PM and that is closed as well.

Next destination is New life, There are about 11 Chicas and I close Isabella which I would say a 7.

She got a huge ass probably a aged lady and not even a English word from her.

Its a 30 minutes session which is OK, was charged 45 K COP.

Seen one more stunner at the place on my way out. May not come back to this place.

It was Sunday you visited these places? I am guessing that is why they were closed.

[QUOTE=Victor9;1839010]Took a cab to downtown from Poblado area, its 22 K COP as we visited 2 more casas before landing at Newlife.

Visited Abidos around 4:45, it is closed. Next stop is at Energy at 5 PM and that is closed as well.

Next destination is New life, There are about 11 Chicas and I close Isabella which I would say a 7.

She got a huge ass probably a aged lady and not even a English word from her.

Its a 30 minutes session which is OK, was charged 45 K COP.

Seen one more stunner at the place on my way out. May not come back to this place.[/QUOTE]

This Medellin movie is really stupid, but if you speak Spanish and are interested in learning about Medellin barrio culture, barrio girls, the language spoken by people in the poor barrios, you may find it interesting. The characters appear to be real barrio people.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2own99xqto[/URL]

After Completing Dinner took a cab to Fase II and made some cash withdrawal on the way. Here is the exchange rate for the transactions I made today -.

3315.43 COP / USD. Citibank ATM at Airport.

3434.06 COP / USD. BANCOLOMBIA in Poblado.

It was 9:30 by the time I reached Fase II, about 10 chicas sitting around and more started walking in heading to makeup room.

After about 50 minutes and 3 performances (there is about 10-15 minutes gap between each performance), a girl next door kind of girl. Maria Fernanda approached me.

She made me buy her a drink (17 K) and Quoted 180 k COP / 50 minutes, mentioned that it was fixed price. My bargaining tactics are of no use.

Session was very good. Fucked her twice in that 50 minutes and stepped out of room when my stop watch ticked 48 minutes.

There are few 9 s and 10 s but the setup is kind of unique. There is a lot of waiting game involved.

[QUOTE=Victor9;1839113]After Completing Dinner took a cab to Fase II and made some cash withdrawal on the way. Here is the exchange rate for the transactions I made today -.

3315.43 COP / USD. Citibank ATM at Airport.

3434.06 COP / USD. BANCOLOMBIA in Poblado.

It was 9:30 by the time I reached Fase II, about 10 chicas sitting around and more started walking in heading to makeup room.

After about 50 minutes and 3 performances (there is about 10-15 minutes gap between each performance), a girl next door kind of girl. Maria Fernanda approached me.

She made me buy her a drink (17 K) and Quoted 180 k COP / 50 minutes, mentioned that it was fixed price. My bargaining tactics are of no use.

Session was very good. Fucked her twice in that 50 minutes and stepped out of room when my stop watch ticked 48 minutes.

There are few 9 s and 10 s but the setup is kind of unique. There is a lot of waiting game involved.[/QUOTE]9:30 is extremely early for Fase 11. Later on, you certainly do not wait 10-15 minutes between performances. She was telling it straight re the fixed price. Sounds like you got lucky all in all, even if you did allow her to make you buy her a drink. Or because of it, maybe!

[QUOTE=Victor9;1839010]Took a cab to downtown from Poblado area, its 22 K COP as we visited 2 more casas before landing at Newlife.

Visited Abidos around 4:45, it is closed. Next stop is at Energy at 5 PM and that is closed as well.

Next destination is New life, There are about 11 Chicas and I close Isabella which I would say a 7.

She got a huge ass probably a aged lady and not even a English word from her.

Its a 30 minutes session which is OK, was charged 45 K COP.

Seen one more stunner at the place on my way out. May not come back to this place.[/QUOTE]Abydos was closed like for the day / vacation or like out of business thanks for the memories?

I did not know that.

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1838199]The problem is that colombianos like fat girls- whatever they are called. They don't find slim girls attractive, so the clubs hire only few of them..[/QUOTE]I'm a chubby-chaser so this is good news for me. Keep in mind, I'm not talking Tess Holiday.

So, last Thursday was my first night in the Medellin monger scene. As money isn't really an issue for me I decided to visit what's supposed to be the most exclusive strip club according to posts on this board, La isla. I arrived at about 1 AM and there were more girls than I had expected, I think there must have been about 30-40 to choose from. Regarding beauty, a few girls I'd rate 5 and a few 9, most around 7-8 though, nothing to complain about. So I went first with a really sexy flaca with huge bolt-ONS, not a single gram of fat on her body, really my type! The experience with her was simply amazing! No rush, she let me guide everything, she did a wonderful deep throat, really seemed to enjoy everything and the sex was just extremely hot. All in all, one of the best experiences ever! So after this superb experience I didn't want to go home just yet! So I went looking for my 2nd girl. Thing was though that the hottest girls were sitting with a group of guys for almost the whole night. I was eyeballing one real hot but once she walked by, she told me she was 'in a private party' and not open to any others and she went back to the same group of men and stayed there the whole evening. This was kind of disappointing. Anyway, after some time I found my 2nd girl, quite hot too, but man, this experience was really the opposite of the first! She was a girl from Cali, enlarged tits but still looked kind of natural and had a tattoo of a butterfly above her pussy. After we entered the private room and we had ordered something to drink, she just sat down on the bed. I asked what was up, she said, we'll need to wait for the drinks to arrive or the attendant will disrupt our party (while this was really not an issue with the other girl). I said, come on, let's start already which she finally did. But she started with a long jerk-off session, obviously to get me coming as soon as possible. When I told her I'd prefer 'que chupas un ratico' she told me angrily 'wow, que grosero' ! So much for the good atmosphere! Later during sex when I pulled out, since I didn't want to come just yet, she said 'que tramposo, que grosero' and during the whole session she was acting like a robot, mainly looking aside and lying there like a bag of potatoes.

So in short, 2 very different experiences, one that will probably enter my top 3 of best ever, while the other one surely deserves a place on my top 3 worst.

YMMV of course, but in my first experience, not everything is as good as it seems at La Isla.

[quote=Web Connect;1837989] This did not happen to me in Colombia, but I guess it could happen anywhere.

That is why I was asking how Jake's business operates. From what I understand if you rent an apartment from him, it includes a possible tour or introduction to girls, that may not even guarantee to get laid. So if you are just getting info that you can use later in life. I don't see it as a problem. Maybe I am wrong.[/quote]My business is laid out in detail on my Colombia Jake website, and it simply says that if you rent a Girlfriend suite for $75 a night, then I will present you with a Girlfriend that I know and trust, that of course is a sure thing! Depending on how much time you spend together is what differentiates the price you pay her at the end of your time together. It also mentions there is a two night minimum at my place. Went to a fun Valentines Evening Party event that I took the guys who stayed here with me, this past Saturday Night! Everyone was so formal and boring until Eric my partner who a lot of you guys know, fired up a couple doobies and passed them around, and all the stiff people and boring formalities went out the window, or in this case over the roof top, over looking the city which is where the party took place!

Thanks, fun times!

Colombia Jake.

[QUOTE=MeisterMan;1838240]I have been lurking on this site for some time now, taking in all the information, in preparation of my trip. I just registered now so I can return the favor by adding a report.

I stayed at Jakes condo:

1). - Even though you can't see pics of the girls ahead of time, there's nothing to worry about. If the girl is not to your liking Jake let me know beforehand that I can just pay her some money to cover her taxi hassle. This was great considering she asked for 300 k.

2). - A couple of things worth noting: his condo is on a 4th floor so the stairs could present a challenge for some.

3). - The bathroom is shared among all those at his place, but that was never a problem.

4). -The dates take place in the night only.

5). - Also, taking other girls you might find on your own back to his place is not permitted.
[/QUOTE]Very important things anyone who is considering staying at Jakes place should know ahead of time, so you are not surprised when you arrive.

[QUOTE=Victor9;1839113]After Completing Dinner took a cab to Fase II and made some cash withdrawal on the way. Here is the exchange rate for the transactions I made today -.

3315.43 COP / USD. Citibank ATM at Airport.

3434.06 COP / USD. BANCOLOMBIA in Poblado.

It was 9:30 by the time I reached Fase II, about 10 chicas sitting around and more started walking in heading to makeup room.

After about 50 minutes and 3 performances (there is about 10-15 minutes gap between each performance), a girl next door kind of girl. Maria Fernanda approached me.

She made me buy her a drink (17 K) and Quoted 180 k COP / 50 minutes, mentioned that it was fixed price. My bargaining tactics are of no use.

Session was very good. Fucked her twice in that 50 minutes and stepped out of room when my stop watch ticked 48 minutes.

There are few 9 s and 10 s but the setup is kind of unique. There is a lot of waiting game involved.[/QUOTE]It looks like BanColombia gives the best exchange rate. I will wirte that down on my list.

Went to Sexy Fantasias 2 / Latinas around 6:50 but there were no girls by then. The Lady at the counter showed me a dark chica and mentioned that they are closed for the day.

WT69's Map says that they are open until 7:30 but that might not be the case. I will make a point to visit them early next time.

[QUOTE=Victor9;1839113]After Completing Dinner took a cab to Fase II and made some cash withdrawal on the way. Here is the exchange rate for the transactions I made today -.

3315.43 COP / USD. Citibank ATM at Airport.

3434.06 COP / USD. BANCOLOMBIA in Poblado.[/QUOTE]Was Bancolombia with a teller or an ATM? Bancolombia does not charge an ATM fee, and Citibank does. If you checked your bank account to see the amount withdrawn, the Citibank transaction would have included the fee, thus the lower exchange rate. Citibank is one of the few banks there that charges an ATM fee. Even though Schwab reimburses the ATM fee, I avoid Citibank because of the fee. Unfortunately, Bancolombia does not accept the Schwab card, but all the others I have tried accept it.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;1839791]Unfortunately, Bancolombia does not accept the Schwab card, but all the others I have tried accept it.[/QUOTE]I use my Schwab card all the time at Bancolombia. I believe it must be the newer cards with chip. The machine will tell you not to remove the card as its reading the chip. Since I get reimbursed fees I don't look much anymore but I do believe Bancolombia ask if your OK with some fee. I will look closer next time.

Hey guys,

Staying at the Mansion in the upcoming week. But, was looking to monger outside the mansion as well.

My main interest is hitting clubs where we can dance + drink with the girls and then take them out / have on-premise room?

By going through the forum, I saw that there was "Club VIP" sometime ago. But, is it closed now? That looked like a fun place to be. Are there similar clubs or casas now?

Note: I am not looking to visit strip clubs.

Me and my friends went to Medellin we rented a pent house suite 4 bedrooms with 4 private baths 3 large living rooms and two baloney's all for $60. US person a day great place but the location sucks it was about 3/4 of a mile from the main road and grocery store walking up and down the hills was a challenge for me and my friends we are all in our sixties so we took cab's none of us spoke Spanish so it was a little difficult to communicate until we met a cab driver named Osker he spoke perfect English he was born in Medellin and lived in L A and Florida he made our trip took us to all the casas and strip clubs restaurants took us sight seeing always waited for us no matter wear we went just a real nice guy his rate was 2500 an hour that's about $9 an hour he also helped us meet women if you do not speak Spanish I would recommend that you call Osker 300 XXX 2480 tell him Ron from Florida told you to call he can pick you up from the airport he will show you places that is not listed in the threads on this site hes great for a first timer. I will come back soon even if I come back alone I will call Osker and have a good time, thanks for all your info on the site not sure if it's OK to list Osker number on this site so PM me if you need his cell.

If your a chubby chaser the Casa in front of parque Periodista cra45 53-34.

Has 3 cute ones. A 19 yrs lactating chica gave me bbj.

[QUOTE=ChelNam;1839356]I'm a chubby-chaser so this is good news for me. Keep in mind, I'm not talking Tess Holiday.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;1839791]Was Bancolombia with a teller or an ATM? Bancolombia does not charge an ATM fee, and Citibank does. If you checked your bank account to see the amount withdrawn, the Citibank transaction would have included the fee, thus the lower exchange rate. Citibank is one of the few banks there that charges an ATM fee. Even though Schwab reimburses the ATM fee, I avoid Citibank because of the fee. Unfortunately, Bancolombia does not accept the Schwab card, but all the others I have tried accept it.[/QUOTE]I have a Wells Fargo account, which charges $5 for each international withdrawal. If I go to another ATM, does this bank also charge a fee? Since I'm prepaying my hotels costs, I don't think I'll have that many expenses so I can get by with just a couple of withdrawals in my stay. It just seems like a lot of trouble to open an account to avoid fees. If the exchange rate is 3300 or 3400, that's not material to me. So if I use the Citibank ATM, then there are no additional fees, just the $5?

Its an ATM. Last night I made one more transaction at a different Bancolombia ATM in Parque Lleras area and this time the exchange rate is 3409.42 COP / 1 USD.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;1839791]Was Bancolombia with a teller or an ATM? Bancolombia does not charge an ATM fee, and Citibank does. If you checked your bank account to see the amount withdrawn, the Citibank transaction would have included the fee, thus the lower exchange rate. Citibank is one of the few banks there that charges an ATM fee. Even though Schwab reimburses the ATM fee, I avoid Citibank because of the fee. Unfortunately, Bancolombia does not accept the Schwab card, but all the others I have tried accept it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rahulmangla2009;1839822]Hey guys,

Staying at the Mansion in the upcoming week. But, was looking to monger outside the mansion as well.

My main interest is hitting clubs where we can dance + drink with the girls and then take them out / have on-premise room?

By going through the forum, I saw that there was "Club VIP" sometime ago. But, is it closed now? That looked like a fun place to be. Are there similar clubs or casas now?

Note: I am not looking to visit strip clubs.[/QUOTE]You are shit out of luck dude. There are just normal nightclubs in Medellin that obviously have a few P4P girls floating through from time to time, but nothing like you are looking for. If this is what you are looking for I suggest you head to Lima or to Cartagena, or consider going to Southeast Asia.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;1839791]Unfortunately, Bancolombia does not accept the Schwab card, but all the others I have tried accept it.[/QUOTE]Not true at all. All I use in Colombia is Bancolombia with my Schwab card.

I wrote down on my notepad. Withdraw money from only Bancolombia they give you the best exchange rate.

Can someone chime in on what I heard before about even ATM / banks give you counterfeit money, is that true?

Picked up a Citibank debit card. The Charles Schwab account requires me to jump through too many hoops. I have my credit accounts frozen so no one can use my social for anything. Schwab needs me to unfreeze it, then I have to pay to refreeze it. Just more hassle than it's worth. The question is whether Citi affiliated ATM's are readily available in Medellin. I do believe Citi charges a 2% transaction fee, but if you get a great exchange rate, that pretty much negates this. The limited amounts you can withdrawal at an ATM in one transaction makes Wells Fargo a loser at $5 a pop, plus other fees the other bank might toss on there. And then I'm sure you'll get dinged a bit on the exchange rate as well.

[QUOTE=GoneFishin;1839797]I use my Schwab card all the time at Bancolombia. I believe it must be the newer cards with chip. The machine will tell you not to remove the card as its reading the chip. Since I get reimbursed fees I don't look much anymore but I do believe Bancolombia ask if your OK with some fee. I will look closer next time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational]Not true at all. All I use in Colombia is Bancolombia with my Schwab card.[/QUOTE]I stand corrected. I tried last fall in two different Bancolombia ATM's and they would not dispense any money, after going through all the steps. It was a Schwab chip card. I had the same problem during prior trips, so I stopped trying. No problems at Bank of Bogota and Davivienda with the same card.

That is good news, gives me another option since I will be staying in a new area during my next trip.

So, 2nd night of mongering in MDE. This time I went to the Loutron, as this should be together with La isla the 2 high end clubs, as I understood from this forum. The club itself is really *really* nice, it's on a huge lot, you can't see it from the street and it's a huge house, which feels like a spa. The atmosphere inside is really relaxed and the staff was extremely friendly. Where La Isla is a huge club with tons of mongers and girls, I only saw a few other mongerers in the Loutron. After entering the bar and sipping my Heineken, 10-15 girls went in to present themselves. I would rate their beauty 7-8. In la Isla I found the range to be 5-9. Anyway, I went with a flaca with bolt-ONS who presented herself as "Vanessa". The room itself was really nice, just as the whole house is (can't say that enough, I was impressed with the house and the general atmosphere there). Vanessa asked me if I wanted to dance or have a massage. We danced a while and then went over to the sex, which was slightly disappointing. Not bad at all but neither great like the session I had in La Isla. The biggest disappointment was that she did focus on get me coming, which I hate in general, I like to pull out a few times, she did her best to prevent that. I'd rate the session as a 6 though. I'd surely visit the Loutron again though, really loved the atmosphere much more than the warehouse atmosphere of La Isla. But I guess it really depends on what you're looking for. If you're with a group of friends, La Isla might be the better destination, but for a single session, I'd prefer the Loutron.

This Evening first stop is at Zandaly (5:30 PM), there were just 4 girls at the place and not even one is doable.

All are below 5. I have read pretty good reports about this place in December but now look like that juice is all dried up.

So I exited the club. They haven't asked me any fee for presenting Chicas.

Next Stop is at Paris Club. Even this place has just 4 chicas and that surprised me one more time as I can recall a report saying that there are 12-15 chicas.

One of them is cute but I decided to move on.

I was not able to decide for a while between Energy and Newlife but at the end leaned towards Newlife as that is neighborhood.

13 girls were presented. Of them 4 are about 9, another 2 are 7 and remaining are not doable.

I chose a 24 year old pretty one by name Andrea. She got a great smile but session is not so great. I would rate that session as a 6.

Closed my hunt for the day.

Any suggestion on which one to choose from Energy & Loutron? I am just looking for one more session.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1839898]If your a chubby chaser the Casa in front of parque Periodista cra45 53-34.

Has 3 cute ones. A 19 yrs lactating chica gave me bbj.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I want to make sure we are on the same page: I like my BBW's with hips but no arm flaps. "Ursula Suarez" come to mind. Bigcurvylatinass, bigbuttlatinass & potonassmodel are websites with perfect examples. I often wonder whant country the guy is in but I'm know he's in Cent. Or S. America. I'm thinking MX, VZ or CO. Any guesses will be highly appreciated. Medellin is a large city so I know they're there but are the working? Only one way to find out.

Hey Victor,

I notice that you tend to visit the day casas at about closing time or after 5 pm and even 7 pm. There is a reason, they are called day casas. You will have a better chance of finding the larger lineup during the day or early afternoon, By 5 pm, most girls are packing, already left the place or are getting ready to go home.

You could try:

1) Club Amigas Sexi, Carrera 45 the # 57-67.

2) Casa Coffee shop Carrera 45 (El Palo) #55-45, entre Peru and Bolivia. This place some good talent from time to time.

3) Adelitas casa. It is the same owner of coffee shop. I don't have the address, but if you goto coffee shop you could ask for the business card of Adelita. The line up was of at least 10 and I was impressed with the quality on the day I went.

4) Chicas [URL]punto.com[/URL]. Calle 54 (Caracas) #49-97, piso 2. The place is not that clean but most time have a huge line up of all types, a you can find a gem her if you are lucky. There are two casas in the same place. One floor above coffee shop, there is another casa to check (piso 3).

5) Andromeda Avenida Oriental with Calle 57.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ateVLl1ARm0[/URL]

Also, try the better quality places like:

1) [URL]http://www.fantasiasenergy.com/[/URL] carrera 74 # 49-101 sector el Estadio (Medellin TEL 230 66 08 - 436 11 31.

2)[URL]http://casablueroom.com/[/URL] Calle 33 No. 78 - 63 Tel: 448 83 32 - 250 03 63.

3) THAI SPA [URL]www.thaispa.com.co[/URL], Cra 81 A # 30 AA - 30 Belén La Palma Tel: (4) 341 98 90, Celular: 319 480 1704 .

[QUOTE=Victor9;1840014]This Evening first stop is at Zandaly (5:30 PM), there were just 4 girls at the place and not even one is doable.

All are below 5. I have read pretty good reports about this place in December but now look like that juice is all dried up.

So I exited the club. They haven't asked me any fee for presenting Chicas.

Next Stop is at Paris Club. Even this place has just 4 chicas and that surprised me one more time as I can recall a report saying that there are 12-15 chicas.

One of them is cute but I decided to move on.

I was not able to decide for a while between Energy and Newlife but at the end leaned towards Newlife as that is neighborhood.

13 girls were presented. Of them 4 are about 9, another 2 are 7 and remaining are not doable.

I chose a 24 year old pretty one by name Andrea. She got a great smile but session is not so great. I would rate that session as a 6.

Closed my hunt for the day.

Any suggestion on which one to choose from Energy & Loutron? I am just looking for one more session.[/QUOTE]

Check your PM Vic.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1840218]Hey Victor,

I notice that you tend to visit the day casas at about closing time or after 5 pm and even 7 pm. There is a reason, they are called day casas. You will have a better chance of finding the larger lineup during the day or early afternoon, By 5 pm, most girls are packing, already left the place or are getting ready to go home.

You could try:

1) Club Amigas Sexi, Carrera 45 the # 57-67.

2) Casa Coffee shop Carrera 45 (El Palo) #55-45, entre Peru and Bolivia. This place some good talent from time to time.

3) Adelitas casa. It is the same owner of coffee shop. I don't have the address, but if you goto coffee shop you could ask for the business card of Adelita. The line up was of at least 10 and I was impressed with the quality on the day I went..[/QUOTE]Let's talk about Thai Spa. I looked at their site. It doesn't say what the rates for sex are, or even if the girls sell it. Maybe I'm not reading the code right.

First time in Medellin.

Little disappointed by cheap casas.

-chicaspuntocom only 3 girls. I picked one but didn't have good time with her.

-Paris, 4 girls and only one pretty. Had a good time with her but will not repeat.

-Zandaly 5 girls but left.

-amigas sexy had many girls. Maybe 10 but only 1 was good. Anyway she had a good attitude and had a good time. Name Melissa.

-new life. I visited it 2 times. First time I chose Laura. Good attitude and nice girl. Second time I chose Andrea and I confirm what Victor9 said. She s not good. Avoid her!

I went many times to centro in the daytime. Streetwalkers are just too ugly. I will never give a try with them.

Can anyone recommend good bars or disco in Parque Lleras where to pick up freelancers?

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1838955]... Been having a great time here in Mde. The chicas are just chillin waiting for you to approach them. You can drink and party with them before you fuck'them. Price was 30 k plus 10 k for room I think. Dirty cheap. FYI most chicas like to smoke weed and have a great time. We closed the place down at 7 pm and the chica I fucked invited us to Jenny's Strip club (new) a few doors down. Moslty all the hot chicas that we partied with work at this small new locals strip club after 7 pm. Jenny's is a few houses down from where we were. They have Christmas light around the door. Its before Artesanias. So if you past that you went to far. There is a bar with pool tables just 2 or 3 houses next to it. Between us 4 guys and and 6 chicas we drank 4 small bottles of rum totaling 115 k. Yes $35 us dollar bar tab. It was a blast. One guy took two chicas at once. He was my hero. LOL. They have a stripper pole with chicas dancing regularly. After that we went to dinner and I crashed from a days travel. Woke up at 3 am to see what I could get from the chicas leaving barra Ejectiva and Maracaibo. To be continued.[/QUOTE]That as an awesome report. Appreciate it. I'm coming in May for my 3rd trip.
Have a great time!

[QUOTE=ChelNam;1839356]I'm a chubby-chaser so this is good news for me. Keep in mind, I'm not talking Tess Holiday.[/QUOTE]There is a huge chick in Maracaibo. I was thinking there is no way she dances on that stage. Never mind. I looked up Tess Holiday and this chick was even bigger.

I was out running casas with two of my closest wingmen (one I met in Rio 13 years ago and the other is the guy who actually got me on ISG) when I had to break away because my main non-pro was coming. Unfortunately for me they were heading to my secret spot. While I was with my girl, Dcfan hit me up and said he had made it in. I thought my girl was going to stay a long time but it was just enough to talk a while and fuck. I hit Dc back and told him that my girl was leaving and I was walking to his hotel to scoop him up. My other wingmen were still at the secret spot but were getting ready to leave. I told them to hold tight because we were on the way. They kept calling back asking where we were. We weren't even in a taxi yet.

When we got there the place was packed. The guy who works there cleared people out of my favorite den for us to sit in. We relaxed while drinking on Ron Medellin and talked shit with the chicas (advantage of being able to speak Spanish, which all of us did) who kept us company. The other guys went to session but I was drained from my girlfriend. There was a short chica who looked like Mary J Blige that kept me company still. After the sessions the casa was getting ready to close but the girls said there was another club, Yenny's, right down the street where everybody goes after. Great. I love getting turned on to new stuff. 4 guys and 5 chicas walked down the street en masse.

It must have been 7:30 when we got there and there were only a few guys sitting around drinking. There were only 2 girls in the place so I was glad we had our own. It was set up like a disco/strip club/brothel all-in-one. To make a long story short (Dcfan already reported on it anyway) I ended up knocking the Mary J Blige chick off there. She was willing to please, but a little too hyper for my liking. I think the rooms were 20k and the rest is between you and your girl. I gave Mary 60k in all to cover everything.

I went back out to the common area and the place was now packed and in full swing. We had already had our fill there though after demolishing 4 halfs of Ron Medellin. We decided to head back downtown to Barra Ejecutiva. Dcfan said he was going to go eat and take a nap and would call us when he woke up. I said mf it is 10 o'clock, what do you mean take a nap? The time had definitely gotten away. We took a taxi back downtown and ate at the casino. It was damn good food. We then did a walk through BE and everybody decided they would just go in and get some rest. It was like 1am by then.

When I got to the hotel I got online to pay some bills and download some shows. I kept thinking about the chica in BE that I wanted to hit. If I did not do it today then it was not going to happen because my girl was staying over the next night. I called one wingman up and told him I was about to head back to BE because I did not want to regret not fucking the chick. He said he would be ready in 20 min.

It was 2am when we walked into BE. I went up to the girl and said let's go upstairs. She said it would be 70k. I paid her and she went to do whatever they have to do. Then we went upstairs. Turns out this chick is 35 years old. I should have known by her veinny hands. We got upstairs and the guy was cleaning rooms. I think that broad had already signed us in though. We didn't get a room until 10 minutes after we were waiting in that hot ass hallway. After we did get the room, it took her 2 minutes to get her clothes off because something was stuck. I think 15 minutes after that the guy was knocking on the door. I didn't give a fuck because I was ready to get out of there anyway.

When I got back downstairs there was a live sex show on stage. Two couples. One guy dove in trying to eat the chick out but she didn't want him to and squirmed to get away.

I used to like BE but I have sessioned 4 times there and 2 of those have been subpar with older hardened hookers. Not to mention it is hot as hell in there and the girls are on average older. We left and went next door to Maracaibo. It felt like they had air conditioning in that place and the girls were way younger. I don't think there was anyone over 25. From now on I will stick to Maracaibo and Conejita's. Fuck Barra Ejecutiva.

For the Record I did wake up at 3 am to see if I could get a barra or Maracabio chick to come back to the hotel. Didn't see anything I liked. So I got into a taxi to go to Casa Blanca while I'm in the taxi. A maracabio chic runs up to my cab and asked if we were going to casa blanca. We said yes and she invited her self in the car. Turns out this girl is super friendly. She talked a mile a minute. I almost could understand her and I speak great spanish. LOL we go in to casa blanca and it was just about to turn up. Girls were coming in by the cab fulls and customers were coming in to. Casa Blanca doesn't get going until all the other clubs close down. Its a after hours spot. So we sat together and a had a beer with the chica I shared a cab with to negotiate the night. I ask her if she smoked weed and her eyes lite up. So I was like lets go get some and role. She knew excatly where to go in the middle of the night. We bought 2 Joints and headed to my hotel. We smoke and talk and I can't understand a word out of this one. I just keeped eye contact and nodding. Once we got down to the dirty dirt it was great. I got a BBJ without asking and fucked for about 45 min. Then this girl takes over the bed and passes out. LOL. I didn't sleep well because I keep waking up thinking she was going to steal thing but everytime I woke up she was in deep REM sleep. Well she finally wakes up, I asked for the morning fuck she said of course. She hope in the shower comes out and ready to go. Then she says how about I just give a really good BJ. I was like eeee ok. Man she gave some serious Einstein. I told her I was about to come, but she keep going until I CIM. Very nice.

Great first night. All for 100 k.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1840417]I was out running casas with two of my closest wingmen (one I met in Rio 13 years ago and the other is the guy who actually got me on ISG) when I had to break away because my main non-pro was coming. Unfortunately for me they were heading to my secret spot. While I was with my girl, Dcfan hit me up and said he had made it in. I thought my girl was going to stay a long time but it was just enough to talk a while and fuck. I hit Dc back and told him that my girl was leaving and I was walking to his hotel to scoop him up. My other wingmen were still at the secret spot but were getting ready to leave. I told them to hold tight because we were on the way. They kept calling back asking where we were. We weren't even in a taxi yet.

When we got there the place was packed. The guy who works there cleared people out of my favorite den for us to sit in. We relaxed while drinking on Ron Medellin and talked shit with the chicas (advantage of being able to speak Spanish, which all of us did) who kept us company. The other guys went to session but I was drained from my girlfriend. There was a short chica who looked like Mary J Blige that kept me company still. After the sessions the casa was getting ready to close but the girls said there was another club, Yenny's, right down the street where everybody goes after. Great. I love getting turned on to new stuff. 4 guys and 5 chicas walked down the street en masse.

It must have been 7:30 when we got there and there were only a few guys sitting around drinking. There were only 2 girls in the place so I was glad we had our own. It was set up like a disco / strip club / brothel all-in-one. To make a long story short (Dcfan already reported on it anyway) I ended up knocking the Mary J Blige chick off there. She was willing to please, but a little too hyper for my liking. I think the rooms were 20 k and the rest is between you and your girl. I gave Mary 60 k in all to cover everything.

I went back out to the common area and the place was now packed and in full swing. We had had our fill there though. We decided to head back downtown to Barra Ejecutiva. Dcfan said he was going to go eat and take a nap and would call us when he woke up. I said mf it is 10 o'clock, what do you mean take a nap? The time had definitely gotten away. We took a taxi back downtown and ate at the casino. It was damn good food. We then did a walk through BE and everybody decided they would just go in and get some rest. It was like 1 am by then.

When I got to the hotel I got online to pay some bills and download the shows. I kept thinking about the chica in BE that I wanted to hit. If I did not do it today then it was not going to happen because my girl was staying over the next night. I called one wingman up and told him I was about to head back to BE because I did not want to regret not fucking the chick. He said he would be ready in 20 min.

It was 2 am when we walked into BE. I went up to the girl and said let's go upstairs. She said it would be 70 k. I paid her and she went to do whatever they have to do. Then we went upstairs. Turns out this chick is 35 years old. I should have known by her veinny hands. We got upstairs and the guy was cleaning rooms. I think that broad had already signed us in though. We didn't get a room until 10 minutes after we were waiting in that hot ass hallway. After we did get the room, it took her 2 minutes to get her clothes off because something was stuck. I think 15 minutes after that the guy was knocking on the door. I didn't give a fuck because I was ready to get out of there anyway.

I used to like BE but I have sessioned 4 times there and 2 of those have been subpar. Not to mention it is hot as hell in there and the girls are on average older. We left and went next door to Maracaibo. It felt like they had air conditioning in that place and the girls were way younger. I don't think there was anyone over 25. From now on I will stick to Maracaibo and Conejita's. Fuck Barra Ejecutiva.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1840431]I didn't sleep well because I keep waking up thinking she was going to steal thing but everytime I woke up she was in deep REM sleep.[/QUOTE]I hate when that happens. Or when you dream she stole something and left and you wake up in a panic but she is right there sound asleep.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1840431]For the Record I did wake up at 3 am to see if I could get a barra or Maracabio chick to come back to the hotel. Didn't see anything I liked. So I got into a taxi to go to Casa Blanca while I'm in the taxi. A maracabio chic runs up to my cab and asked if we were going to casa blanca. We said yes and she invited her self in the car. So we sat together and a had a beer with the chica I shared a cab with to negotiate the night. I ask her if she smoked weed and her eyes lite up. So I was like lets go get some and role. She knew excatly where to go in the middle of the night. We bought 2 Joints and headed to my hotel.
Great first night. [b]All for 100 k.[/b][/QUOTE]Yet another example of the same chick in a different place for a different price. And it appears that had it been a different monger chances are there would have been an even different price.[QUOTE=Richmond72;1840458]Yes, some girls will do TLN. A lot of the girls don't, though, so you need to sort that out with the girl when you're vetting. The "standard" rate is 300 K for TLN, though you might also want to clarify that with the girl beforehand.[/QUOTE]Serious? Standard rate is 300K? I would rather go with Dcfan's non-standard rate of 100K any day. Where do guys come up with this standard rate thing?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1840402]There is a huge chick in Maracaibo. I was thinking there is no way she dances on that stage. Never mind. I looked up Tess Holiday and this chick was even bigger.[/QUOTE]As a brother, I'm an ass man by nature but Tess is a no no. Lovely face but flabby arms as big as her legs. I prefer woman with wide (the wider, the better) hips and ass.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1840466]Yet another example of the same chick in a different place for a different price. And it appears that had it been a different monger chances are there would have been an even different price.Serious? Standard rate is 300K? I would rather go with Dcfan's non-standard rate of 100K any day. Where do guys come up with this standard rate thing?[/QUOTE]I was referring to the Mansion. The thread I posted in is the Mansion thread. I believe dcfan77 is talking about some after hours club named Casa Blanca.

Anyone here been following the Zika news? Its SUCH a bummer.

Colombia, Brazil, Curacao, Venezuela, DR, SXM, Panama, Costa Rica.

All the punting locales. Grrrrrrrr!!!!

Hey fellas,

Did anybody take pics of the working girls in the cheap casas? Just wondering how they look like.

Are they all fat mamas or are there any 18/20 slim girls?

Hi all,

I have seen some posts about some senior mongers / local guides in MDE. I will be in MDE soon, was looking to avail some help, given my limited (closer to nil) Spanish skills! Please PM if you can.

Thanks a lot!

I'm going to Medellin next week. Already put Loutron and Energy to the top of my list as "nice / clean" places with hot girls.

Someone mentioned there are 9's in New Life, definitely tempting to go there, but I read that the Centro casas are mostly dirty places. Can you share which casas in Centro are the cleaner and which are to be avoided. I really don't want to be banging a chick on the bed next to the previous guy's load splash. Which places have showers?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1840683]Anyone here been following the Zika news? Its SUCH a bummer.

Colombia, Brazil, Curacao, Venezuela, DR, SXM, Panama, Costa Rica.

All the punting locales. Grrrrrrrr!!!![/QUOTE]Terrible disease for pregnant woman, for the rest of us I wouldn't loose a lot of sleep. Many people infected never even have symptoms. In the cases of the few reported deaths, the individuals likely had other complicating health issues. Is there risk, of course but I do not believe it adds a significant mortality risk to our hobby which already has many risks associated. I think you are more likely to be killed in a robbery than die from this, though the risk from both is very low.

I came home with something flu like from Bangkok in the late 90's that landed me in the hospital. My blood was sent to the CDC but they never isolated it. Several awful days and then a couple of weeks to get back on my feet. Got dengue in Brazil over 10 years ago. Really sucked, but I got better.

Add in that I saw very few mosquitoes in MDE due to altitude, I think I got one bite all week. In a week in Rio I'd have used a whole tube of steroid cream.

I'm just glad when my annual HIV test comes back negative.

TLN for 300 K? How many hours would a typical TLN be in the Mansion?

Visited Energy around 11 AM. I was the only guest at that time. Mamasan calledu p all the chicas. About 22 girls are presented.

I wrote down few badge numbers on my phone and called up Mamasan for one more presentation of there girls and chose Suzanne (or Susanna), 24 year old 5. 4 chica with implants.

I opted 1 HR session for 140 k. (its 115 k for 30 minutes).

She started with a back massage and slowly started the deed. She is so tight, probably the tightest pussy I have experienced in this trip. Session is good.

After that she joined me in shower for a quick 3- 4 tap down. I spent about 45 minutes as I need to be some where else for the afternoon.

I would like to stress the cleanliness and high standards of this casa. After visiting few low end casas I regret for not making it to this Energy casa on my day visit.

The place is such a upscale and prices are reasonable for the non-rush, clean sessions.

[QUOTE=NewGuy3;1840727]Someone mentioned there are 9's in New Life, definitely tempting to go there, but I read that the Centro casas are mostly dirty places. Can you share which casas in Centro are the cleaner and which are to be avoided. I really don't want to be banging a chick on the bed next to the previous guy's load splash. Which places have showers?[/QUOTE]I would not necessarily say the places are dirty. I would just say that some are more older or run down than others. Every one that I have been to somebody changes the sheets and cleans the room after each session. I reported (I think) last month that in chicaspunto it was the girls who had to do this themselves; they doubled as the janitorial staff for their $7 cut of the session.

There have been showers in every casa that I have gone through. But you are worrying about the cleanliness of the place and not worried about sticking your johnson into a total stranger? You would be better to worry about the cleanliness of the girl than the room. While most rooms are totally cleaned, the girls at damn near all the establishments only take ho baths before/after each session. And I would say that it does make perfect sense. Imagine how dried out your body would be if you took 20 real showers everyday. Probably smarter to kiss her pussy than anywhere else on her body. LOL.

While perhaps not "standard," I don't think 300 k is unreasonable for TLN. I'll take two please.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1840466]Yet another example of the same chick in a different place for a different price. And it appears that had it been a different monger chances are there would have been an even different price.Serious? Standard rate is 300K? I would rather go with Dcfan's non-standard rate of 100K any day. Where do guys come up with this standard rate thing?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1840838]I would not necessarily say the places are dirty. I would just say that some are more older or run down than others. Every one that I have been to somebody changes the sheets and cleans the room after each session. I reported (I think) last month that in chicaspunto it was the girls who had to do this themselves; they doubled as the janitorial staff for their $7 cut of the session.

There have been showers in every casa that I have gone through. But you are worrying about the cleanliness of the place and not worried about sticking your johnson into a total stranger? You would be better to worry about the cleanliness of the girl than the room. While most rooms are totally cleaned, the girls at damn near all the establishments only take ho baths before/after each session. And I would say that it does make perfect sense. Imagine how dried out your body would be if you took 20 real showers everyday. Probably smarter to kiss her pussy than anywhere else on her body. LOL.[/QUOTE]Thank you for clarifying. Yes I'm of course concerned with the cleanliness of the girls even more, I wrote a thread in the general topics forum about that.

Good to know they all have showers and clean sheets.

Thanks

[QUOTE=JustANewbie;1840357]Let's talk about Thai Spa. I looked at their site. It doesn't say what the rates for sex are, or even if the girls sell it. Maybe I'm not reading the code right.[/QUOTE]The rates are listed in there. Other posters that have visited the place have reported that they offer sex, and that it is sort of an upscale place and expensive. I am not sure which is the service option that will give you sex.

[URL]http://www.thaispa.com.co/servicios.html[/URL]

My wingman just paid 300 USD (yes USD) plus airfare to fly an escort in from Cali because he didn't like any of the casas I took him to.

LE sigh.

[QUOTE=SmokersRule;1840839]While perhaps not "standard," I don't think 300 k is unreasonable for TLN. I'll take two please.[/QUOTE]

Depends on the casa.

Some straight up advertise 18-25 on their card.

Others don't and you see what you get.

I usually don't see too many fats

[QUOTE=PrisonBreak;1840690]Hey fellas,

Did anybody take pics of the working girls in the cheap casas? Just wondering how they look like.

Are they all fat mamas or are there any 18/20 slim girls?[/QUOTE].

Even the cheapest shirt Casas / strip joints I've been to in centro have showers.

Are they more run down and dingy looking than places like Energy?

Yes.

It's best to just check a few out yourself and gauge your comfort level.

[QUOTE=NewGuy3;1840727]I'm going to Medellin next week. Already put Loutron and Energy to the top of my list as "nice / clean" places with hot girls.

Someone mentioned there are 9's in New Life, definitely tempting to go there, but I read that the Centro casas are mostly dirty places. Can you share which casas in Centro are the cleaner and which are to be avoided. I really don't want to be banging a chick on the bed next to the previous guy's load splash. Which places have showers?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1838955]So far so good.
Been having a great time here in Mde. Meet up with a member and his friends from this forum. We went to a brothel near Artesanias on Calle 61. Didn't get the name of the spot but its on Calle 61 and Cra 63. Almost on the corner. Its on calle 61. White door to walk up to the second floor. They have a nice balcony that is literally on the corner. You might see some chicas or locals chillin on the balcony. There line up was very good. 7,8. Very friendly young chicas. About ten to choose from. I say its a brothel and not a casa because they don't present the chicas. The chicas are just chillin waiting for you to approach them. You can drink and party with them before you fuck'them. Price was 30 k plus 10 k for room I think. Dirty cheap. FYI most chicas like to smoke weed and have a great time. We closed the place down at 7 pm and the chica I fucked invited us to Jenny's Strip club (new) a few doors down. Moslty all the hot chicas that we partied with work at this small new locals strip club after 7 pm. Jenny's is a few houses down from where we were. They have Christmas light around the door. Its before Artesanias. So if you past that you went to far. There is a bar with pool tables just 2 or 3 houses next to it. Between us 4 guys and and 6 chicas we drank 4 small bottles of rum totaling 115 k. Yes $35 us dollar bar tab. It was a blast. One guy took two chicas at once. He was my hero. LOL. They have a stripper pole with chicas dancing regularly. After that we went to dinner and I crashed from a days travel. Woke up at 3 am to see what I could get from the chicas leaving barra Ejectiva and Maracaibo. To be continued.[/QUOTE]Cra 63 would put you in the middle of the Rio Medellin shud be Cra 53, I think address is for Artisans calle 61.#53.78

Sorry it may be a typo. It's on the same street as Artisanas. I'll be in that area before the 7 p close of the Casa tonight then maybe go to yenni's. LOL.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1841181]Cra 63 would put you in the middle of the Rio Medellin shud be Cra 53, I think address is for Artisans calle 61.#53.78[/QUOTE].

Just curious regarding the practicals of possessing weed and cocaine in Medellin. Not much of a partier these days, but hey, I would dabble a bit if it's legal. The last thing I want is to get tossed in a jail in Colombia for what is essentially a small use. I have read that you can legally possess up to 20 grams of marijuana and 1 gram of cocaine. If you are well behaved and carry a copy of your passport, is there any real issue regarding the police?

Have also read that the police are tolerant in tourist areas, which Medellin is not. I'd hate to depend on the charity of the police to stay out of trouble. My experience with the police in Mexico taught me that I must look like a walking ATM.

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;1841121]Even the cheapest shirt Casas / strip joints I've been to in centro have showers.

Are they more run down and dingy looking than places like Energy?

Yes.

It's best to just check a few out yourself and gauge your comfort level.[/QUOTE]Just take hand cleaner and wet wipes you germaphobes. If that doesn't work, you get sick and have to go home, less competition for me. LOL. You can head back to America and have some Hog nurse you back to health.

Is there a strip club I can take my GF to in Medellin where a couple will be welcome and girls actually get on stage dance and strip?

[QUOTE=MNPeter;1841721]Is there a strip club I can take my GF to in Medellin where a couple will be welcome and girls actually get on stage dance and strip?[/QUOTE]All of the strip clubs fit that description. The difference is that you can take the girls to a room on premesis and fuck. Everytime I go I see guys bringing in their girlfriend no problem.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1841745]All of the strip clubs fit that description. The difference is that you can take the girls to a room on premesis and fuck. Everytime I go I see guys bringing in their girlfriend no problem.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. OK. I have only been to L. Lunas and only one chubby ever danced the whole time I was there. Didn't seem like a couple would feel comfortable there, either.

Hi,

I am a long time hobby enthusiastic for about 10 years, leave it for for years for marriage and now (divorced) returning to the scene.

Back in September went to Colombia on a really short vacations and stay in Cartagena and Medellin. Since this trip was not intended to be sex vacation I did not made.

My work researching the area first.

I like to say Colombia is a awesome place in terms of cheap sex and beauty women, and also easy to get full service without a hassle of negotiating.

Plus services.

I am a Spanish speaking person, Colombia was a great discovery, my last trips, before marriage, was doing it Cuba exclusively, all my trips was awesome and cheap.

Back in 2002-2010 Cuban women play the GFE game, treat you like the only man around looking for a "novio en el exterior", they did not ask for money until the morning after.

"for my mother, for my university expensive" "for my kid".) this time I followed the same script, but I realize in Colombia is a little bit hard to get GFE without a previous contact.

On social networks or social apps.

In Medellin, I stayed in a $40,000 COP at night tiny hotel near "la 70" in Laureles area, install easytaxi app and let my Taxi driver explain where and.

When to go to find slim cute paisas. Going to table dance to get chicks is not my thing. (even though I made a strip club tour to know the Medellin scene).

The second taxi driver was my life saver, he explain to me clearly where and when to go, for 3 days I stay in a comfort zone looking for ladies in the San.

Diego and Colon areas, I must say, the 20% was doable but with patience and luck you can get what you looking for.

As says in this thread, most of the girls are between San Diego glorieta and metro exposiciones.

The action with the best looking and cheap paisas in this area are about every day since 10 pm to 1 am near Metro Exposiciones, please avoid CL 39.

Very hard and nasty ambient, (always use taxi in this area, some "ladies" if you pass twice in front of hers they act angry and insult you like "gonorrhea!.

A lot of drug Dependant homeless people.).

My two experiences was similar, the first night a sexy slim white skin black hair, 19 years old gal ask for $25,000 COP, I agree, stay in my hotel for 2 and a half hours aprox.

She strip for me with music as a request, and then I join for foreplay and sex, give her 50,000 in total. She did not ask it but she deserve it.

The second night, in the same spot I found a petite 18 yo chica rubia, all natural, not the tall voluptuous body girls like in "la isla" but girl next door look, (my favorite look).

The taxi driver propose a love motel with pole dance, music system and lights, it was a great idea, since we strip and dance regueton naked (my idea), I learn this move in Cuba.

For break the ice and get a better treat from the lady, dancing kissing and caress leads to a girlfriend attitude form the lady, she asked for $30,000 pesos, we stay 3 hours in the.

Motel and asked to move to "la 70" to eat and chill, I offer 100,000 to stay with me all night at my place, for the service I got it was a hell of a deal.

In Cartagena, the first day of my vacation I found a dirty cantina called Bar California in front of the "parque de LOS coches" next to the hotel Monterrey, really hard stuff, avoid.

This place, a lot of girls with no ID and the rooms next to the bar are tiny and dirty, found a nice 19 yo lady and cost 30,000 cop for sex, but when returning the other girls fight.

With her, one of them with a scissors cut her a lock of hair almost from scalp, very disturbing scene, the lady just run away.

Well that's all in my super short vacation, planing on doing again Medellin and Bogotá, right now researching on this tread to see more tips to my March trip.

Thanks

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[QUOTE=MNPeter;1841747]Hmmm. OK. I have only been to L. Lunas and only one chubby ever danced the whole time I was there. Didn't seem like a couple would feel comfortable there, either.[/QUOTE]Would a couple feel comfortable in any strip club until they got used to being in them together? I saw one of the baddest broads in my life that came as part of two married couples into Fase 2. I didn't even want to look at those sorry strippers after that. I had to keep looking at dude's wife on the sly.

[QUOTE=MNPeter;1841721]Is there a strip club I can take my GF to in Medellin where a couple will be welcome and girls actually get on stage dance and strip?[/QUOTE]I have taken GFs to La Isla and Fase II. Fun time.

I would not take my GFs to any other club in town including Luna Luneras (LL) . I like LL personally but the ambiance is not as nice to take a GF.

Arriving in MDE from Feb 27-Mar 1. PM me if you would like to partner up in exploring casas, nightclubs etc.

[QUOTE=Rahulmangla2009;1841888]Arriving in MDE from Feb 27-Mar 1. PM me if you would like to partner up in exploring casas, nightclubs etc.[/QUOTE]Maybe you have a eye sight problem, or a reading comprehension problem. But there is a travel announcement thread for these types of postings.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2235-Travel-Announcements-Only-%28No-questions-or-comments-please%29[/URL]

Best report I've read in like forever. Thanks Woodsman!

[QUOTE=TheWoodsman;1841766]Hi,

I am a long time hobby enthusiastic for about 10 years, leave it for for years for marriage and now (divorced) returning to the scene.

Back in September went to Colombia on a really short vacations and stay in Cartagena and Medellin. Since this trip was not intended to be sex vacation I did not made.

My work researching the area first.

I like to say Colombia is a awesome place in terms of cheap sex and beauty women, and also easy to get full service without a hassle of negotiating.

Plus services.

I am a Spanish speaking person, Colombia was a great discovery, my last trips, before marriage, was doing it Cuba exclusively, all my trips was awesome and cheap.

Back in 2002-2010 Cuban women play the GFE game, treat you like the only man around looking for a "novio en el exterior", they did not ask for money until the morning after.

"for my mother, for my university expensive" "for my kid".) this time I followed the same script, but I realize in Colombia is a little bit hard to get GFE without a previous contact.

On social networks or social apps.

In Medellin, I stayed in a $40,000 COP at night tiny hotel near "la 70" in Laureles area, install easytaxi app and let my Taxi driver explain where and.

When to go to find slim cute paisas. Going to table dance to get chicks is not my thing. (even though I made a strip club tour to know the Medellin scene).

The second taxi driver was my life saver, he explain to me clearly where and when to go, for 3 days I stay in a comfort zone looking for ladies in the San.

Diego and Colon areas, I must say, the 20% was doable but with patience and luck you can get what you looking for.

As says in this thread, most of the girls are between San Diego glorieta and metro exposiciones.

The action with the best looking and cheap paisas in this area are about every day since 10 pm to 1 am near Metro Exposiciones, please avoid CL 39.

Very hard and nasty ambient, (always use taxi in this area, some "ladies" if you pass twice in front of hers they act angry and insult you like "gonorrhea!.

A lot of drug Dependant homeless people.).

My two experiences was similar, the first night a sexy slim white skin black hair, 19 years old gal ask for $25,000 COP, I agree, stay in my hotel for 2 and a half hours aprox.

She strip for me with music as a request, and then I join for foreplay and sex, give her 50,000 in total. She did not ask it but she deserve it.

The second night, in the same spot I found a petite 18 yo chica rubia, all natural, not the tall voluptuous body girls like in "la isla" but girl next door look, (my favorite look).

The taxi driver propose a love motel with pole dance, music system and lights, it was a great idea, since we strip and dance regueton naked (my idea), I learn this move in Cuba.

For break the ice and get a better treat from the lady, dancing kissing and caress leads to a girlfriend attitude form the lady, she asked for $30,000 pesos, we stay 3 hours in the.

Motel and asked to move to "la 70" to eat and chill, I offer 100,000 to stay with me all night at my place, for the service I got it was a hell of a deal.

In Cartagena, the first day of my vacation I found a dirty cantina called Bar California in front of the "parque de LOS coches" next to the hotel Monterrey, really hard stuff, avoid.

This place, a lot of girls with no ID and the rooms next to the bar are tiny and dirty, found a nice 19 yo lady and cost 30,000 cop for sex, but when returning the other girls fight.

With her, one of them with a scissors cut her a lock of hair almost from scalp, very disturbing scene, the lady just run away.

Well that's all in my super short vacation, planing on doing again Medellin and Bogot, right now researching on this tread to see more tips to my March trip.

Thanks

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Woodsman,

I like your report. Can you share the name and address of that 40 K hotel near La 70 where you stayed. Is that fee for one person or do they charge a chica fee in addition to to the 40 K? Did you experience any troubles bringing a girl in?

Cerebro

Hola Dudes,

I kept things really quiet my first week in MDE doing some normal touristy BS. This past week, I checked out Luna Lunera again as well as the San Diego Strip Club. Last Thursday, I was hard up from checking out all the Colombian ass in Park Lleras. There was also a shit load of flip flop wearing young Euro Sluts, with their little asses hanging out of cutoff jeans in the Provenza area of Poblado.

I rolled into Luna Lunera around 11:00 in the PM. It's located on Avenida 33 in Laureles. Most cab drivers know this place by name. No entrance fee. Man, there was a bunch of big ass chicas at this place. The Waiter said there was a three drink minimum for 55 k. I wasn't down for that, so I grabbed the closes chica I could find with a big butt. I didn't even pay attention to her name, and think she said she was 21. I just said, "Cuanto Cuesta", then, "Dale". Her price was 130 k for 30 minutes. She had red hair, kind of a chubby face, big ass, and a nice pair of bolt ONS. She, also, had some type of floral tattoo going down the small of her back. Her service was not good. About a 30 second blow job. I really didn't care because I just wanted to pound something. I find it funny wit many pros I bang. They think they can ride you for a minute or two, and you'll blow. She kept checking the condom for joy juice. She was also positioning herself to make it difficult for me to get into her nice rack. I was like, "okay, looks like were gonna have to do this the hard way." I flipped her over on all fours, and started plowing her like it was harvest time. Cool moment. As I was nailing her face down on the bed, with her ass in the air, I could hear her exhale with each everlasting pump I made. Thankfully for her, I'm hung like a mosquito so the damage was quite minimal. Finished with a nice jerk as she was gyrating her ass on all fours. She asked for a propina. I politely said no, and told her the service was horrible. Checked out this place again on Saturday, but didn't see much I liked. The rooms were very nice. There was porn on the TV, boom box for music, a big working fan, and shower facilities.

I went to San Diego Strip Club on a Monday, Friday, and Saturday. It's advertised as Grill San Diego. Located on Calle 37 No 45-15, It's about 10 blocks from Luna Lunera just on the other side of the Autopista. Entrance fee is 10 k. Drinks are 15 k per drink, and 20 k for the chica drinks. On the Monday I went, the selection was limited. With that being said, a kid I took hooked up with a really cute chica. There was at least three or four young one's that I would've been happy to nail, but they were already with dudes at tables. Friday night was by far the best of the three nights. There was a great selection of all different types of chicas. I met one named Antonella who was 23. She was more of a "Spinner" type + very classy looking. She had shortish black hair, nice pair of real see sized titties, and a small but round ass. I wasn't planning on banging this chick because I had all sorts of legal and not so legal things in my system. Since the dude I was with egged me on and said he'd cover my drinks, I felt obliged to bang this chica. Her performance was really good at the beginning of the session. Things heated up when she pointed down to her wet vaj. I acted stupid, and said "Yo"? "Si, Tu a Mi." I guess I did alright, because I started to get the pelvic thrusts, and hair grabbing ensued. Suddenly, the blow job was just a notch better than before. I went in for the hard bang, and she gladly accepted. She worked especially hard to get my leche, but I told her "No Puede". I told her I would come back tomorrow to finish what I started. True to form, I was back the next night, and she quickly found me. Back in the room, it was another great session of hard pounding ending with her tongue tickling the head of my dick as I blew my load. Damage for her was 150 k for 40 min, and a 20 k propina. The rooms at this place are very sparse. No porn, no pillows, but they do have a fan, stereo, and a shower.

I hooked up with another one from San Diego a couple of days ago. Her name was Sara, and I think she was either 21 or 22. This chica had long brown hair, and a bangin body. She was tall, about 5 8", and slightly thick. Nice full ass with a small be cup rack. Her best feature was her legs. Beautifully tanned muscular long legs. We talked for a minute or two, and seemed to hit it off. Now, what I didn't know was the prices, apparently, vary from chica to chica. I was expecting 150 k for 40 minutes, and she said 170 k. I thought I may have been getting played so I asked the Waiter what's up. He said the prices do vary, but he also talked to the chica in a somewhat stern manner. I couldn't understand him, but he may have said something to the effect, "this dude is under the impression it's 150 k, you should fuck him for that price. " I wasn't about to queer the deal for $6 usd, so I agreed to 170 k. What kinda pissed me off was at the room, she wanted me to buy her a drink for another 20 k. I acted like I didn't know what she was saying, but she kept rephrasing the question. I finally said no, and things got quiet. I thought this would put a damper on our session. She actually gave a really good blow job. As with the previous two chicas, she started out with the squat fuck so she could control things. I let her have her way for a couple of minutes. Then, I pulled her knees down to the bed, brought her tits to my face, grabbed her ass, and started ramming like I was off to Iraq in the morning for a six month tour. This elicited a positive response. I flipped her over on all fours, and was quickly reminded of why I'm here in the land of big asses. What a pleasure it was to pound such a sweet full ass! Since I felt she had been a good earner, I went in for some rhythmic missionary. This tends to be a favorite among the pros I bang. She seemed to appreciate the gentler side of Judd. I felt subtle nibbles on my ears. I can't say for sure, but I thought she might've had a release of her own. Unfortunately, Old Judd was out of gas and couldn't nutt. As we got dressed, I flipped her a 20 k note, and thanked for a nice session.

On a side note for San Diego. If you walk out from the club to the sidewalk, and go left, there's a little convenience store around the corner. They have excellent bbq chicken.

So far, these clubs remind me of the quality you could once find in the boliches of Buenos Aires circa the mid 2000's. Granted, they have far fewer chicas than clubs like Madahos or Blacks. At a third to a quarter of the price, it's an incredible value vs quality proposition.

I'm going to checkout Loutron and La Isla this week which is supposed to have even hotter chicas.

Late,

Judd.

[QUOTE=Chesscat;1842174]Best report I've read in like forever. Thanks Woodsman![/QUOTE]Chesscat,

You are welcome, you are so kind.

For Cerebro: the 40 k cop hotel was "Recuerdos del estadio" a cozy small building behind "la 70" street, the address is: Cra 70 A no. 45 E 124 (just ask a taxi driver to go behind the Hotel Imperio 70) the staff of Recuerdos del estadio is very cool, I ask if I can bring my girlfriend and the woman in the front desk says no problem, she told me just bring adults, no minors, she secure her ID, they have security cameras so its safe for all. The rooms are a bit tiny but hey, for the price its very nice.

[QUOTE=JustANewbie;1841226]Just curious regarding the practicals of possessing weed and cocaine in Medellin. Not much of a partier these days, but hey, I would dabble a bit if it's legal. The last thing I want is to get tossed in a jail in Colombia for what is essentially a small use. I have read that you can legally possess up to 20 grams of marijuana and 1 gram of cocaine. If you are well behaved and carry a copy of your passport, is there any real issue regarding the police?
[/QUOTE]Very easy to get both. Here's a simple solution that has always worked well for me--find a girl you like and explain to her what are looking for. 9 times out of 10, she will know where to get it, usually within five minutes depending on where you are hanging out at. Most girls will also happily join in on the fun so buy extra.

Regarding possession, it's been at least 4-5 years this happened but one night I was in a taxi with a girl and we went to buy some. About two minutes after we picked up, we were pulled over by the police. The girl had it on her person, and after briefly speaking with the cops, she came to me and told me to give her 20 k COP. That settled the matter and our goodies were not confiscated.

Be wise, and safe!

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1840943]The rates are listed in there. Other posters that have visited the place have reported that they offer sex, and that it is sort of an upscale place and expensive. I am not sure which is the service option that will give you sex.

[URL]http://www.thaispa.com.co/servicios.html[/URL][/QUOTE]For the real prices list, the woman in charge give you when you enter is completely different at Thai Spa. If I remember it's 150 000 COP the 45 min, a little more for a full service (some girls do anal).

Thanks for responding. That budget 40 k hotel and near la 70!Sounds like a great deal to me. I will add that hotel to my my list of places to stay. Thanks again.

[QUOTE=TheWoodsman;1842362]Chesscat,

You are welcome, you are so kind.

For Cerebro: the 40 k cop hotel was "Recuerdos del estadio" a cozy small building behind "la 70" street, the address is: Cra 70 A no. 45 E 124 (just ask a taxi driver to go behind the Hotel Imperio 70) the staff of Recuerdos del estadio is very cool, I ask if I can bring my girlfriend and the woman in the front desk says no problem, she told me just bring adults, no minors, she secure her ID, they have security cameras so its safe for all. The rooms are a bit tiny but hey, for the price its very nice.[/QUOTE].

I paid 160 k for a hour. Massage, oral, and sex. I got great standard service. No complaints. Nice establishment.

[QUOTE=Kyrawz;1842542]For the real prices list, the woman in charge give you when you enter is completely different at Thai Spa. If I remember it's 150 000 COP the 45 min, a little more for a full service (some girls do anal).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Judd;1842355]Hola Dudes,

I kept things really quiet my first week in MDE doing some normal touristy BS. This past week, I checked out Luna Lunera again as well as the San Diego Strip Club. Last Thursday, I was hard up from checking out all the Colombian ass in Park Lleras. There was also a shit load of flip flop wearing young Euro Sluts, with their little asses hanging out of cutoff jeans in the Provenza area of Poblado.

;;;;;;;

Granted, they have far fewer chicas than clubs like Madahos or Blacks. At a third to a quarter of the price, it's an incredible value vs quality proposition.

I'm going to checkout Loutron and La Isla this week which is supposed to have even hotter chicas.

Late,

Judd.[/QUOTE]Judd, Very nice report.

Loutron is not a club. It is a casa.

On a side note, Most good clubs in BA are closed or went down in quality dramatically. These days BA can't compare with MDE for mongering.

[QUOTE=JustANewbie;1841226]Just curious regarding the practicals of possessing weed and cocaine in Medellin. Not much of a partier these days, but hey, I would dabble a bit if it's legal. The last thing I want is to get tossed in a jail in Colombia for what is essentially a small use. I have read that you can legally possess up to 20 grams of marijuana and 1 gram of cocaine. If you are well behaved and carry a copy of your passport, is there any real issue regarding the police?

Have also read that the police are tolerant in tourist areas, which Medellin is not. I'd hate to depend on the charity of the police to stay out of trouble. My experience with the police in Mexico taught me that I must look like a walking ATM.[/QUOTE]JAN,

This has been discussed before rather extensively; as you can imagine. The summary is that any amount of MJ and Coca is technically illegal. It is however tolerated. Send me a PM if you want to know more.

I was in MDE from Jan 20 - Feb 7. The first part of my trip I stayed in the Mansion as is my habit. After that I moved to Sites Hotel which has been discussed here. I normally would have moved to an apartment, but I felt like being attended to (breakfast, maid service, front desk) so I opted for this hotel.

Sites Hotel is definitely a nice place, but I had mixed results with its monger-friendliness. I registered for two people and when I checked in, I verified with them that guests were allowed with no charges (I speak perfect Spanish FWIW). My first three nights I had no problem having guests over. However the fourth night, the girl at the front desk told me it was not allowed. When I contested this, she got almost hysterical and said she was "reporting me" and that I would be charged some ridiculous fee for this.

The next day, I spoke with the other staff and they confirmed that I should have no problem having guests over. However, that night when I have another girl visit me, the same girl at the front desk has a fit again! She again says I will have to pay and even mentions calling the police (Exactly what for?)! The next day (again) I talk to other staff and they assure me that I can have guests. However, when I tell them about the idiotic girl's behavior, they are completely indifferent! This indifference frustrated me as much as the psychotic girl's lunacy.

This brings up the other place that's been mentioned here. Ibiza Hotel in Itague. I've always wanted to try this place and preferring to avoid more idiocy at Sites Hotel, I set up afternoon / evening rendezvous at Ibiza Hotel. I'm glad I did! A bit more expensive and out of the way than some of the other short-time motels I've tried in MDE. But a big step above in quality. Rooms have jacuzzis, giant beds, and excellent sex chairs. When I mentioned this place to girls, they were all enthusiastic. I will use Ibiza again, regardless of where I'm staying on my next visit.

Another note. I paid every short-time encounter at the Mansion 150 K pesos. When girls visited me at my Hotel or met me at Ibiza, I gave them 150 K + Taxi. They seemed to be happy with this and expressed a desire to see me again. Many of them I've been with on previous visits.

Oh yeah -- when I checked out of Sites Hotel, there were no extra charges for the guests I had! Maybe this girl's hysterics were all a dream!

Will return in late March for one more trip this Winter.

Its not illegal to possess up to 20 grams of mary jane according to this:

[URL]http://www.alcaldiabogota.gov.co/sisjur/normas/Norma1.jsp?i=2774[/URL]

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1842747]JAN,

This has been discussed before rather extensively; as you can imagine. The summary is that any amount of MJ and Coca is technically illegal. It is however tolerated. Send me a PM if you want to know more.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1842747]JAN,

This has been discussed before rather extensively; as you can imagine. The summary is that any amount of MJ and Coca is technically illegal. It is however tolerated. Send me a PM if you want to know more.[/QUOTE]For everyone's benefit, can you show us a reference where it's illegal? From what I've read in several places, it's legal to have 20 grams of marijuana and 1 gram of cocaine for personal use. We are talking about possession. I do see that the sale of it and hence the purchase is not allowed. But once it's in your hands, simple possession seems legal. At least from my internet sleuthing.

[QUOTE=Combo;1842757]Oh yeah -- when I checked out of Sites Hotel, there were no extra charges for the guests I had! Maybe this girl's hysterics were all a dream!

Will return in late March for one more trip this Winter.[/QUOTE]Or maybe the girl was jealous and wanted you to fuck her too. See you there in late March.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1842634]Thanks for responding. That budget 40 k hotel and near la 70!Sounds like a great deal to me. I will add that hotel to my my list of places to stay. Thanks again..[/QUOTE]Yes, great deal 40 k per night, I suggest to pay per night, if you are not comfortable you can look for other hotel in the area without being obliged to stay. Its a small clean place, no A/C, just a fan (there are rooms with AC, but I did not got one back in September 2015) a 20" CRT, TV, a full size bed, a wardrobe and a night table, the bathroom its regular size, elevator and stairs to get to your room.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Judd;1842355]Hola Dudes,

I kept things really quiet my first week in MDE doing some normal touristy BS. This past week, I checked out Luna Lunera again as well as the San Diego Strip Club. Last Thursday, I was hard up from checking out all the Colombian ass in Park Lleras. There was also a shit load of flip flop wearing young Euro Sluts, with their little asses hanging out of cutoff jeans in the Provenza area of Poblado.

I rolled into Luna Lunera around 11:00 in the PM. It's located on Avenida 33 in Laureles. Most cab drivers know this place by name. No entrance fee. Man, there was a bunch of big ass chicas at this place. The Waiter said there was a three drink minimum for 55 k. I wasn't down for that, so I grabbed the closes chica I could find with a big butt. I didn't even pay attention to her name, and think she said she was 21. I just said, "Cuanto Cuesta", then, "Dale". Her price was 130 k for 30 minutes. She had red hair, kind of a chubby face, big ass, and a nice pair of bolt ONS. She, also, had some type of floral tattoo going down the small of her back. Her service was not good. About a 30 second blow job. I really didn't care because I just wanted to pound something. I find it funny wit many pros I bang. They think they can ride you for a minute or two, and you'll blow. She kept checking the condom for joy juice. She was also positioning herself to make it difficult for me to get into her nice rack. I was like, "okay, looks like were gonna have to do this the hard way." I flipped her over on all fours, and started plowing her like it was harvest time. Cool moment. As I was nailing her face down on the bed, with her ass in the air, I could hear her exhale with each everlasting pump I made. Thankfully for her, I'm hung like a mosquito so the damage was quite minimal. Finished with a nice jerk as she was gyrating her ass on all fours. She asked for a propina. I politely said no, and told her the service was horrible. Checked out this place again on Saturday, but didn't see much I liked. The rooms were very nice. There was porn on the TV, boom box for music, a big working fan, and shower facilities.

I went to San Diego Strip Club on a Monday, Friday, and Saturday. It's advertised as Grill San Diego. Located on Calle 37 No 45-15, It's about 10 blocks from Luna Lunera just on the other side of the Autopista. Entrance fee is 10 k. Drinks are 15 k per drink, and 20 k for the chica drinks. On the Monday I went, the selection was limited. With that being said, a kid I took hooked up with a really cute chica. There was at least three or four young one's that I would've been happy to nail, but they were already with dudes at tables. Friday night was by far the best of the three nights. There was a great selection of all different types of chicas. I met one named Antonella who was 23. She was more of a "Spinner" type + very classy looking. She had shortish black hair, nice pair of real see sized titties, and a small but round ass. I wasn't planning on banging this chick because I had all sorts of legal and not so legal things in my system. Since the dude I was with egged me on and said he'd cover my drinks, I felt obliged to bang this chica. Her performance was really good at the beginning of the session. Things heated up when she pointed down to her wet vaj. I acted stupid, and said "Yo"? "Si, Tu a Mi." I guess I did alright, because I started to get the pelvic thrusts, and hair grabbing ensued. Suddenly, the blow job was just a notch better than before. I went in for the hard bang, and she gladly accepted. She worked especially hard to get my leche, but I told her "No Puede". I told her I would come back tomorrow to finish what I started. True to form, I was back the next night, and she quickly found me. Back in the room, it was another great session of hard pounding ending with her tongue tickling the head of my dick as I blew my load. Damage for her was 150 k for 40 min, and a 20 k propina. The rooms at this place are very sparse. No porn, no pillows, but they do have a fan, stereo, and a shower.

I hooked up with another one from San Diego a couple of days ago. Her name was Sara, and I think she was either 21 or 22. This chica had long brown hair, and a bangin body. She was tall, about 5 8", and slightly thick. Nice full ass with a small be cup rack. Her best feature was her legs. Beautifully tanned muscular long legs. We talked for a minute or two, and seemed to hit it off. Now, what I didn't know was the prices, apparently, vary from chica to chica. I was expecting 150 k for 40 minutes, and she said 170 k. I thought I may have been getting played so I asked the Waiter what's up. He said the prices do vary, but he also talked to the chica in a somewhat stern manner. I couldn't understand him, but he may have said something to the effect, "this dude is under the impression it's 150 k, you should fuck him for that price. " I wasn't about to queer the deal for $6 usd, so I agreed to 170 k. What kinda pissed me off was at the room, she wanted me to buy her a drink for another 20 k. I acted like I didn't know what she was saying, but she kept rephrasing the question. I finally said no, and things got quiet. I thought this would put a damper on our session. She actually gave a really good blow job. As with the previous two chicas, she started out with the squat fuck so she could control things. I let her have her way for a couple of minutes. Then, I pulled her knees down to the bed, brought her tits to my face, grabbed her ass, and started ramming like I was off to Iraq in the morning for a six month tour. This elicited a positive response. I flipped her over on all fours, and was quickly reminded of why I'm here in the land of big asses. What a pleasure it was to pound such a sweet full ass! Since I felt she had been a good earner, I went in for some rhythmic missionary. This tends to be a favorite among the pros I bang. She seemed to appreciate the gentler side of Judd. I felt subtle nibbles on my ears. I can't say for sure, but I thought she might've had a release of her own. Unfortunately, Old Judd was out of gas and couldn't nutt. As we got dressed, I flipped her a 20 k note, and thanked for a nice session.

On a side note for San Diego. If you walk out from the club to the sidewalk, and go left, there's a little convenience store around the corner. They have excellent bbq chicken.

So far, these clubs remind me of the quality you could once find in the boliches of Buenos Aires circa the mid 2000's. Granted, they have far fewer chicas than clubs like Madahos or Blacks. At a third to a quarter of the price, it's an incredible value vs quality proposition.

I'm going to checkout Loutron and La Isla this week which is supposed to have even hotter chicas.

Late,

Judd.[/QUOTE]LMAO - "Hung like a mosquitoe". Great report!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Judd;1842355]Hola Dudes,

I kept things really quiet my first week in MDE doing some normal touristy BS. This past week, I checked out Luna Lunera again as well as the San Diego Strip Club. Last Thursday, I was hard up from checking out all the Colombian ass in Park Lleras. There was also a shit load of flip flop wearing young Euro Sluts, with their little asses hanging out of cutoff jeans in the Provenza area of Poblado.

I rolled into Luna Lunera around 11:00 in the PM. It's located on Avenida 33 in Laureles. Most cab drivers know this place by name. No entrance fee. Man, there was a bunch of big ass chicas at this place. The Waiter said there was a three drink minimum for 55 k. I wasn't down for that, so I grabbed the closes chica I could find with a big butt. I didn't even pay attention to her name, and think she said she was 21. I just said, "Cuanto Cuesta", then, "Dale". Her price was 130 k for 30 minutes. She had red hair, kind of a chubby face, big ass, and a nice pair of bolt ONS. She, also, had some type of floral tattoo going down the small of her back. Her service was not good. About a 30 second blow job. I really didn't care because I just wanted to pound something. I find it funny wit many pros I bang. They think they can ride you for a minute or two, and you'll blow. She kept checking the condom for joy juice. She was also positioning herself to make it difficult for me to get into her nice rack. I was like, "okay, looks like were gonna have to do this the hard way." I flipped her over on all fours, and started plowing her like it was harvest time. Cool moment. As I was nailing her face down on the bed, with her ass in the air, I could hear her exhale with each everlasting pump I made. Thankfully for her, I'm hung like a mosquito so the damage was quite minimal. Finished with a nice jerk as she was gyrating her ass on all fours. She asked for a propina...[/QUOTE]This makes me wonder if it's possible to hook up with some of those Euro sluts. I think it's doubtful, but you can't blame a guy for thinking about it. At least I'll try to talk to a couple of them and see if they want to get stoned. This for the latter part of my trip.

I stayed there at the beginning of my trip for a week. Great Hotel. Very quiet area, and the bed is top quality. I got the impression this place was not chica friendly. Sounds like you benefited from having Dudes at the front desk when you brought back your chicas. At least you got to bang some chicas in that nice bed for a couple of nights. FYI, I met a retired dude in the gym the other day. He comes from FL to MDE on a weekly basis to pretty much bang chicas. He only stays at the Hotel Casa Victoria which he said is chica friendly.

Late,

Judd.

[QUOTE=Combo;1842757]I was in MDE from Jan 20 - Feb 7. The first part of my trip I stayed in the Mansion as is my habit. After that I moved to Sites Hotel which has been discussed here. I normally would have moved to an apartment, but I felt like being attended to (breakfast, maid service, front desk) so I opted for this hotel.

Sites Hotel is definitely a nice place, but I had mixed results with its monger-friendliness. I registered for two people and when I checked in, I verified with them that guests were allowed with no charges (I speak perfect Spanish FWIW). My first three nights I had no problem having guests over. However the fourth night, the girl at the front desk told me it was not allowed. When I contested this, she got almost hysterical and said she was "reporting me" and that I would be charged some ridiculous fee for this.

The next day, I spoke with the other staff and they confirmed that I should have no problem having guests over. However, that night when I have another girl visit me, the same girl at the front desk has a fit again! She again says I will have to pay and even mentions calling the police (Exactly what for?)! The next day (again) I talk to other staff and they assure me that I can have guests. However, when I tell them about the idiotic girl's behavior, they are completely indifferent! This indifference frustrated me as much as the psychotic girl's lunacy.

This brings up the other place that's been mentioned here. Ibiza Hotel in Itague. I've always wanted to try this place and preferring to avoid more idiocy at Sites Hotel, I set up afternoon / evening rendezvous at Ibiza Hotel. I'm glad I did! A bit more expensive and out of the way than some of the other short-time motels I've tried in MDE. But a big step above in quality. Rooms have jacuzzis, giant beds, and excellent sex chairs. When I mentioned this place to girls, they were all enthusiastic. I will use Ibiza again, regardless of where I'm staying on my next visit.

Another note. I paid every short-time encounter at the Mansion 150 K pesos. When girls visited me at my Hotel or met me at Ibiza, I gave them 150 K + Taxi. They seemed to be happy with this and expressed a desire to see me again. Many of them I've been with on previous visits.

Oh yeah -- when I checked out of Sites Hotel, there were no extra charges for the guests I had! Maybe this girl's hysterics were all a dream!

Will return in late March for one more trip this Winter.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1842968]Or maybe the girl was jealous and wanted you to fuck her too. See you there in late March.[/QUOTE]That thought occurred to me!

Went to New Life with a group of guys early Saturday afternoon. The place was busy, with around 8 or so guys sitting in the waiting areas. Our group of 4 was split into two taxis so the first guys got there ahead of us and saw a lineup and one guy bit and went for a session. When my wingman and I arrived, our other buddy was waiting in a little viewing room, so we all got a beer and then saw a second line-up of about 8 ladies. I'd say they ranged from the 5/6 range to a couple of 7/8 range, but of course tastes in looks are subjective. So the line-up goes through and we are all discussing the girls, but no one makes a pick. I'm thinking the manager is saying, "damn rookies," or something. So I look at the guys and say "Ok, next one that comes through the door that rocks my boat I'm going with unless, either of you just have to have her. " So after a bit, the manager pulls another group together and Daniella comes in. Very pretty face and gorgeous eyes, bigger breasts. I jump up, make sure no one wants her more and head back with her.

Rooms are not high class, by any means, but the the sheets were fresh and we got clean towels for the shower. Daniella was a good, professional performer and it was obvious that she had been in the game for awhile.

The thing I found that I liked about New Life was that you can take how ever much time you want with the girl. You don't have to state how long before you start and no one comes banging on the door after 30 minutes or an hour. The girls get a sign in sheet when they start and then when you are done they take it back to the cashier, who checks the time and charges you for how long you spent with the girl. They even have the price list posted on the walls, so no confusion, or worries about Gringo pricing. My friend who is a veteran there said he has never had a problem with them trying to over charge on the time either.

My trip to Medellin this time around was great. I ended up getting a lot of numbers from casa and strip club chicas for house calls of plus 2 hrs back at my hotel. Staying in el Centro made it real easy to coordinate a session with the chica before or after there shift. I stay at Hotel Normandia on Ave. Maracaibo. Close to strip club La Barra Ejectiva and Club Maracaibo. The Hotel is a little run down but they have solid internet and some rooms have balconies, which the chicas and I always enjoy. For smoking and fucking.

Let me start by listing the casas I went to during my visit.

The first I explained during my first post on Calle 61 (moore). Jenni's or yenni's small strip club is open only during the weekend because when I went on Wednesday it was closed. On Calle 61 close to Cra 53 there are 2 casa / brothels plus yenni's and Artisanas.

Casa / brothel 1.

Calle 61 #53-08 (white door 2 second floor) to the left of Rest / Bar Garnero Taurino. You can sit and drink with chicas. Best time to go is Friday after 5 p. Very much a locals spot.

Casa / brothel 2.

Calle 61 two doors down. Green door second floor. In between Billares la 61 and OXIMEDE (its a oxygen tank place) you can sit and drink with chicas. Best time to go is Friday after 5 p. Very much a locals spot.

Yenni's is about 50 ft down. Next to Las Alitas de Moore and the Peluqueria. There will be Christmas lights and they open at 7 pm. They have short time rooms and full bar. $45 k for a 1/2 liter of Ron de Medellin. Don't know how much a 1/2 HR session with a chica is. Maybe 60 K. Locals Spot.

Casas I went to. Keep in mind I like the girl next door look. So your 7 or 8 is my 10. LOL.

Club de Amigas Sexy (Probably the best line up this trip).

Car 45 D # 57 -67 (brown door 2nd floor).

Went with Brenda. Light skin, blonde hair, about 5'4, nice round medium ass and perky titties with large nipples. The services was basic but she was very friendly. She said she doesn't do out calls. But she assured me that the services gets better if you repeat. Which I did a few days later.

Traviesas Sexi.

Calle 53 #45 d-104 (pink door).

They had about 6 -8 chicas with the largest amount of black chicas. I think they had 4 black chicas there. I got with a brown spinner with a ass to die for. Service was very mechanical.

Fantasias (Paris Club).

Cra 47 #56-34.

4 chicas. Line up was not that great but I got with the cutest one. I asked for bbj she said 30 k extra. Good bbj and fuck.

Kamasutras.

Calle 57 a #46-29 pink house (2nd floor.

Decent line up from. Got a thick'ems. Would not do bbj.

No name (fusion?

Car 43 #53-34.

3 thick chicas. Picked the youngest. She was 19 just had a baby 3 month ago, with milk dripping out of her breast. When I squeezed her nipples I got a shot of breast milk to the face. LOL. She had great tits and a big'ol ass. Light skin dark hair. Very young looking. I got her number and she came thru after her shift, but hasn't that great. I paid 80 k for her to come to my hotel. Across the street is Agua Dulce conina why cafe. Great little boutique lunch spot. Closes at 3 pm. Great lunches and good coffee.

Sara Ardiente.

Calle 49 # 43-68 (close to Plazuela San Ignacio) very cool area to walk around and people watch. This casa had a diverse line up. I picked Leidy. Small white spinner with some serious bolts. I walked in the bedroom and it smelled like MJ. I said "Heule Rico" Smell good. She said you smoke? I said "Hell yeah". She gave me a few pulls of a blunt and we got down. She charges 30 k for bbj. Good bbj with lots of spitting on my dick. Loved it! As I'm fingering her pussy, I teased her asshole and she said her asshole was 60 k more. I'm like bet! I grab my money but I only had 40 k. So no go.

But she gave me her number and she agreed to come to my hotel the next day at 7 am. Before her shift at 10 a. I'm like wow. She was so down to come early at 7 am. She charged me 200 k til 10 am. 2 pops bbj, pussy and her glorious ass hole. She def came at least 3 times. She likes coke and MJ. She also has plenty of friends that want to make extra money. She arrived closer to 730 am but I didn't complain much. We smoked she did some coke and she got dicked down. Great provider!

Thai Spa.

Car 81 a #30 aa-30 Belen La Palma.

1 hrs160 k massage oral and sex. You get seated by the host for the line up. They give a list of the services they provide. All good looking chicas. Very high end. I will def repeat.

After-hours (after the strip clubs close).

Casa Blanca.

Is still going strong. Ask any taxi driver near the strip clubs.

LOS Gordos or las Gordas (ex-owners of la Manzana).

Near el Jardin botanico.

Taxi ask any taxi driver near the strip clubs.

Dona Isa Hostel.

Calle 30 #69 B- 41 Metro plus Estacion Rosales.

On the weekends they have a decent line up. 10 chicas. 1/2 HR was 70 k.

I have a list of chicas that are looking for some extra money. So PM me for there info. Everyone uses WhatsApp. For texting. You must know at least some spanish.

Overall had a great time with these Paisa's. I got with a lot of them to come to my hotel. General taking 80 k - 100 k for an hour. But they don't clock watch. Treat them well and your good to go. Most chicas like MJ and / or Coke. So if you party they will party with you. LOL.

Peace out!

Great report! I appreciate it.

[QUOTE=JustANewbie;1842866]For everyone's benefit, can you show us a reference where it's illegal? From what I've read in several places, it's legal to have 20 grams of marijuana and 1 gram of cocaine for personal use. We are talking about possession. I do see that the sale of it and hence the purchase is not allowed. But once it's in your hands, simple possession seems legal. At least from my internet sleuthing.[/QUOTE]I am not a lawyer and the text below is from google translate. May be I am reading this wrong. I actually hope I am wrong. I hope it is legal for under 20 gm but I always take precautions as if it is illegal. Meaning I don't flaunt it or try not to put myself in compromising situations. This is from the link posted below your post.

[B]Magistrate:

Dr. Carlos Gaviria Díaz.

In Bogota, DC, five (5) days of May 1994 (1994)

The Plenary of the Constitutional Court,

For the people and by mandate of the Constitution,

Proceed to rule on the constitutionality process against literal j) of Article 2 and Article 51 of Law 30 of 1986.

1. BACKGROUND.

ALEXANDRE SOCHANDAMANDOU citizens in the exercise of public action of unconstitutionality, requests the Court to declare unconstitutional the literal j) of the 2nd article. and Article 51 of Law 30 of 1986.

Compliments as they are constitutional and legal procedures required for processes of this kind, the Court proceeds decide.

2. challenged norms.

The text of the provisions under challenge is as follows:

" Article 2.. For the purposes of this Act the following definitions are adopted:

..................

j) Dose for personal use: The amount of drug that a person carried or kept for their own consumption.

Doses for personal use is the amount of marijuana that does not exceed twenty (20) grams; the hashish marijuana which does not exceed five (5) grams; cocaine or cocaine-based substance which does not exceed one (1) gram, methaqualone and which does not exceed two (2) grams.

Not doses for personal use, the drug that the person take it, when you have intended for distribution or sale, whatever their number ".

" Article 51. The carried shall retain for its own use or consume, cocaine, marijuana or any other drug that produces dependence, dose amount considered to be for personal use, as provided in this Act, shall be liable to the following sanctions :

a) For the first time in arrest for up to thirty (30) days and fine of half (1/2) monthly minimum wage.

b) For the second time in arrest of one (1) month to one (1) year and a fine of half (1/2) to one (1) monthly minimum wage, provided that the new act is carried out within twelve (12) months after the commission first.

c) The user or consumer, according to legal medical opinion, is in a state of drug addiction and has been caught for the first time, will be admitted to psychiatric or similar establishment of official or private, for the time necessary for recovery. In this case, no fine or arrest shall apply.

The appropriate authority may entrust the addict to family care or refer, under its responsibility to a clinic, hospital or nursing home to take appropriate action, which will last as long as necessary to recover it, which must be certified by the treating physician and the respective Section of Legal Medicine. The family of the addict must answer for meeting its obligations, through bond set by the competent official, taking into account the economic capacity of that.

The attending physician regularly inform the authority which heard the case on the health and rehabilitation of drug addicts. If the family fails to obligations, it will take effect the bond and internment Junkie necessarily have to be met. "
[/B]

Colombian prisons are full of Americans and other foreigners convicted of drug crimes. Draw your own conclusions. Yes, many of them were smugglers but I guess it boils down to your risk tolerance. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1843630]I am not a lawyer and the text below is from google translate. May be I am reading this wrong. I actually hope I am wrong. I hope it is legal for under 20 gm but I always take precautions as if it is illegal. Meaning I don't flaunt it or try not to put myself in compromising situations. This is from the link posted below your post.

[B]Magistrate:

Dr. Carlos Gaviria Daz.

In Bogota, DC, five (5) days of May 1994 (1994)

The Plenary of the Constitutional Court,

For the people and by mandate of the Constitution,

Proceed to rule on the constitutionality process against literal j) of Article 2 and Article 51 of Law 30 of 1986.

1. BACKGROUND.

ALEXANDRE SOCHANDAMANDOU citizens in the exercise of public action of unconstitutionality, requests the Court to declare unconstitutional the literal j) of the 2nd article. and Article 51 of Law 30 of 1986.

Compliments as they are constitutional and legal procedures required for processes of this kind, the Court proceeds decide...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1843636]Colombian prisons are full of Americans and other foreigners convicted of drug crimes. Draw your own conclusions. Yes, many of them were smugglers but I guess it boils down to your risk tolerance. Good luck.[/QUOTE]As a practical matter, I'm sure the police can shake you down for jaywalking. This is important because in the event it is actually out and out illegal, that is a different matter altogether. I wonder how we could get an authoritative source to verify this for the benefit of everyone here.

[QUOTE=Combo;1842757]I was in MDE from Jan 20 - Feb 7. The first part of my trip I stayed in the Mansion as is my habit. After that I moved to Sites Hotel which has been discussed here. I normally would have moved to an apartment, but I felt like being attended to (breakfast, maid service, front desk) so I opted for this hotel.

Sites Hotel is definitely a nice place, but I had mixed results with its monger-friendliness. I registered for two people and when I checked in, I verified with them that guests were allowed with no charges (I speak perfect Spanish FWIW). My first three nights I had no problem having guests over. However the fourth night, the girl at the front desk told me it was not allowed. When I contested this, she got almost hysterical and said she was "reporting me" and that I would be charged some ridiculous fee for this.

The next day, I spoke with the other staff and they confirmed that I should have no problem having guests over. However, that night when I have another girl visit me, the same girl at the front desk has a fit again! She again says I will have to pay and even mentions calling the police (Exactly what for?)! The next day (again) I talk to other staff and they assure me that I can have guests. However, when I tell them about the idiotic girl's behavior, they are completely indifferent! This indifference frustrated me as much as the psychotic girl's lunacy..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. It is around the corner from Jakes so passed it often. Great breakfast place next door. Was wondering about its Chica policy, and appreciate your trying to shed light on it but guess it is at best YMMV.

I got one advice do not go to a foreign country looking for trouble because you will find it.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;1843862]Thanks for the report. It is around the corner from Jakes so passed it often. Great breakfast place next door. Was wondering about its Chica policy, and appreciate your trying to shed light on it but guess it is at best YMMV.[/QUOTE]Yeah Ibiza is a great jump off if you have a Novia (temporery) or don't want to bring a girl back to your place just yet. This culture of love hotels is really outstanding when you think about it. Colombia has SOO many people livng at home way past until they are 30 that they have to go somewhere to fuck! There's not many countries that can do this right but damn if Colombia doesn't have this on lock.

Also the food is really good here, the service, the discretion. I prefer this then the other one that is a much further distance away. One heads up though. If there is a holy holiday or a holy week, ALL the love hotels CLOSE!! I found that out last April, holy fuck! Jesus cock blocked me!! That said, I've been in quite a bit of love hotels and Ibizia is by FAR the best. Whats funny is some of the prepago photos I see, I can tell what room the are in AHHAHAHAH. Itagul is not too far from Poblado either so I don; t consider this a long ride. It's perfect.

Glad you had fun! I'm now having a flash back this girl I banged there that had the most amazing pussy. I descriped it to my friend and he says "Oh you mean monkey mouth" and he makes the face and turns his head sideways! Hahahah I laughed SOO hard cause he was right! It's that "innie" pussy. The one that has like no labia at all. Ahhhh well sorry for the tangent. Thanks for the report.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1843630]I am not a lawyer and the text below is from google translate. May be I am reading this wrong. I actually hope I am wrong. I hope it is legal for under 20 gm but I always take precautions as if it is illegal. Meaning I don't flaunt it or try not to put myself in compromising situations. This is from the link posted below your post.

[B]Magistrate:

Dr. Carlos Gaviria Daz.

In Bogota, DC, five (5) days of May 1994 (1994)

The Plenary of the Constitutional Court,

For the people and by mandate of the Constitution,

Proceed to rule on the constitutionality process against literal j) of Article 2 and Article 51 of Law 30 of 1986.

1. BACKGROUND.

ALEXANDRE SOCHANDAMANDOU citizens in the exercise of public action of unconstitutionality, requests the Court to declare unconstitutional the literal j) of the 2nd article. and Article 51 of Law 30 of 1986.

Compliments as they are constitutional and legal procedures required for processes of this kind, the Court proceeds decide...[/QUOTE]If it's not legal, I will agree that you are taking a risk with it. Certainly it's not worth having an issue on a vacation. It seems to be in a gray area giving great latitude of discretion to the officer, which generally will not end well if you are technically guilty. So I stand corrected. It's unfortunate that inaccurate information is posted on the internet, because you obviously have no express right to possess it. I got my initial info from this wiki article. [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_cannabis_by_country[/URL].

[QUOTE=JustANewbie;1843998]It's unfortunate that inaccurate information is posted on the internet,[/QUOTE]LOL. I know the name says newbie, but you couldn't possibly be that new. I thought the internet was synonymous for inaccurate information. Wiki is not a scholarly work. It is a collection of a bunch of people writing their side of the facts. You know you can go on there and add to it if you want right?

My question is can five days in Medellin for a first trip be okay just to experience Colombia? Or should I just wait until I can get more time? I know that there is much more to see and do as well as other places to visit but I just want to do a quick trip to see it. Will it be worth it for five days? All info is greatly appreciated.

I also need to know when is Holy week. I don't want to end up out there and none of the girls are around.

Thanks to your post I just realized that my already booked trip is at the worst possible time. Easter Sunday March 27, so the whole week prior is Holy Week. Don't go at this time. I've already booked a trip during this time. Can anyone give me an idea of what its going to be like? Anyone have any contacts they'd be willing to share or perhaps strategies to get me and my friend through this trip? Thanks.

[QUOTE=LilBear;1844134]I also need to know when is Holy week. I don't want to end up out there and none of the girls are around.[/QUOTE]

Google "Santa semana 2016".

[QUOTE=LilBear;1844134]I also need to know when is Holy week. I don't want to end up out there and none of the girls are around.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kazeu;1844157]Thanks to your post I just realized that my already booked trip is at the worst possible time. Easter Sunday March 27, so the whole week prior is Holy Week. Don't go at this time. I've already booked a trip during this time. Can anyone give me an idea of what its going to be like? Anyone have any contacts they'd be willing to share or perhaps strategies to get me and my friend through this trip? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Everything is dead during this period. Medellin or Cali for sure! I don't know others cities.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;1844157]Thanks to your post I just realized that my already booked trip is at the worst possible time. Easter Sunday March 27, so the whole week prior is Holy Week. Don't go at this time. I've already booked a trip during this time. Can anyone give me an idea of what its going to be like? Anyone have any contacts they'd be willing to share or perhaps strategies to get me and my friend through this trip? Thanks.[/QUOTE]If you can change the dates. The fees you pay to move flights will be 100% worth it! It is the only time worse than after Christmas-New Years /10 days after.

Life happens and if you can't change dates you got to live with it. Things will be OK / good but not as great as they could be. Pros and normal stuff too.

Last Tuesday, I decided to hit San Diego again since I've been having good sessions at this place. One thing to note, you'll want to get there early even on a slow night, to ensure you don't miss out on a chica that you really like. I rolled in there a little after 11:00, and some of the hotter talent were already with dudes. The chica that just finished stripping was fucking incredible looking. I figured she be out in a few minutes and I'd bang her. For some reason, she never came out from their dressing room. I was fixing to leave, since the other chicas I liked were starting to get called to tables. Then, one sat down next to me and my little guy Mikey Likey. Her name was Estephany from Bello. 21 yrs old I think. Really beautiful face, medium straight black hair, and braces. Reminded me a little of Emily Blunt and some pornstar whose name escapes me. Within a few minutes, I had her laughing, so that was a good sign. 150 k for 40 minutes. When she got up, I realized from her outfit, I saw her walk by earlier. Unfortunately, I never checked out her cute face, because the ass didn't meet my strict junk in the trunk guidelines.

In the room, she revealed a body more along the lines of a European bikini model type as opposed to the normal big ass chicas here in Colombia. She had small be cup tits, and a round yet small butt. What I liked about her ass is it had some jiggle to it. Very Pliable. I'm not going to go into the session details, but will note, she was tight even for my little guy. If you get into San Diego, look her up especially if you're into the cute spinner types.

On to New Life. I finally got off my lazy ass, and headed downtown to see what all the buzz was about for this place. It didn't disappoint. A cab from Poblado to New Life was a good 30 to 40 minutes due to the heavy traffic. A better option may be to cab it to the Poblado Metro station, and exit the Prado station. From there, it's about a 15 minutes walk to New Life.

I got there a little after 11:00 am and there was two dudes checking out the lineup. Within 5 minutes, another 7 or 8 dudes showed up including two gringos.

The lineup was really strong including one older one with a huge ass! I saw about 8 or 9 and 5 of them were right in my wheel house. I remember a chica named Alejandra with black hair that was really hot. Things started to get a bit chaotic with the lineup as the influx of dudes was also happening. I could tell there were even more chicas fixing to come out. I didn't want to miss out on the one I liked, and told the guy I wanted chica #2. Turned out she was another Alejandra. This one was 20 yrs old with curly black hair, light hazel eyes, muscular legs, and that bangin Colombian ass.

She immediately seemed smitten with me. She used words like "Enamorada and Muy Rico". I gave her my Patton'd hand under my shirt signaling my heart was fluttering for her. She laughed, and revealed A cup titties wit some hard nippys, firm body, and a nice proportioned round ass. She proceeded to give me an enthusiastic blow job at a fantastic rapid speed. Reminded me of the blow jobs I received in BA ten plus years ago when the chicas would try to get you off in an attempt to forego intercourse. It was working as I was nearing a nutt. I got her on all fours and she, not me, proceeded to fuck the shit out of me. Again, I thought she was trying to get me to finish quickly, but soon realized she just wanted to screw. With that in mind, I took this opportunity to bang her as hard as I could. I was overmatched wit this young speed fucker. Ten minutes of the continual hard bang and I was spent. I asked her to give me a repeat of her flawless blow job skills sin condom. I Offered 20 k. She countered with 30 k. Finished with an energetic jerk as she swayed her thick ass in front of my grinning face. She gave me a big hug and told me that was "Muy Divertido". 45 k for session plus 30 k for BBJ. Doesn't get much better than that.

Today, I banged three chicas in Cali. There's two more cute one's at Dr. Amor I hope to nail tomorrow before my date wit a Non Pro.

More to follow.

Judd.

[QUOTE=LilBear;1844122]My question is can five days in Medellin for a first trip be okay just to experience Colombia? Or should I just wait until I can get more time? I know that there is much more to see and do as well as other places to visit but I just want to do a quick trip to see it. Will it be worth it for five days? All info is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]I went to Cartagena for 3 days last month and had a good time. I know Medellin might be a little different but I got to sight see, had two sessions with a very hot Chica, and ate some very good food. Safe travels if you go.

Unfortunately my buddy isn't that flexible with time off from work, so changing flights isn't going to be possible. Any other suggestions? I've heard some conflicting reports. Some people say places are still open just not as many. Another person I asked said places only close down on actual easter and even then, only some of the places.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1844413]If you can change the dates. The fees you pay to move flights will be 100% worth it! It is the only time worse than after Christmas-New Years /10 days after.

Life happens and if you can't change dates you got to live with it. Things will be OK / good but not as great as they could be. Pros and normal stuff too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Judd;1844453]Last Tuesday, I decided to hit San Diego again since I've been having good sessions at this place. One thing to note, you'll want to get there early even on a slow night, to ensure you don't miss out on a chica that you really like. I rolled in there a little after 11:00, and some of the hotter talent were already with dudes. The chica that just finished stripping was fucking incredible looking. I figured she be out in a few minutes and I'd bang her. For some reason, she never came out from their dressing room. I was fixing to leave, since the other chicas I liked were starting to get called to tables. Then, one sat down next to me and my little guy Mikey Likey. Her name was Estephany from Bello. 21 yrs old I think. Really beautiful face, medium straight black hair, and braces. Reminded me a little of Emily Blunt and some pornstar whose name escapes me. Within a few minutes, I had her laughing, so that was a good sign. 150 k for 40 minutes. When she got up, I realized from her outfit, I saw her walk by earlier. Unfortunately, I never checked out her cute face, because the ass didn't meet my strict junk in the trunk guidelines.

In the room, she revealed a body more along the lines of a European bikini model type as opposed to the normal big ass chicas here in Colombia. She had small be cup tits, and a round yet small butt. What I liked about her ass is it had some jiggle to it. Very Pliable. I'm not going to go into the session details, but will note, she was tight even for my little guy. If you get into San Diego, look her up especially if you're into the cute spinner types.

On to New Life. I finally got off my lazy ass, and headed downtown to see what all the buzz was about for this place. It didn't disappoint. A cab from Poblado to New Life was a good 30 to 40 minutes due to the heavy traffic. A better option may be to cab it to the Poblado Metro station, and exit the Prado station. From there, it's about a 15 minutes walk to New Life.

I got there a little after 11:00 am and there was two dudes checking out the lineup. Within 5 minutes, another 7 or 8 dudes showed up including two gringos.

The lineup was really strong including one older one with a huge ass! I saw about 8 or 9 and 5 of them were right in my wheel house. I remember a chica named Alejandra with black hair that was really hot. Things started to get a bit chaotic with the lineup as the influx of dudes was also happening. I could tell there were even more chicas fixing to come out. I didn't want to miss out on the one I liked, and told the guy I wanted chica #2. Turned out she was another Alejandra. This one was 20 yrs old with curly black hair, light hazel eyes, muscular legs, and that bangin Colombian ass.

She immediately seemed smitten with me. She used words like "Enamorada and Muy Rico". I gave her my Patton'd hand under my shirt signaling my heart was fluttering for her. She laughed, and revealed A cup titties wit some hard nippys, firm body, and a nice proportioned round ass. She proceeded to give me an enthusiastic blow job at a fantastic rapid speed. Reminded me of the blow jobs I received in BA ten plus years ago when the chicas would try to get you off in an attempt to forego intercourse. It was working as I was nearing a nutt. I got her on all fours and she, not me, proceeded to fuck the shit out of me. Again, I thought she was trying to get me to finish quickly, but soon realized she just wanted to screw. With that in mind, I took this opportunity to bang her as hard as I could. I was overmatched wit this young speed fucker. Ten minutes of the continual hard bang and I was spent. I asked her to give me a repeat of her flawless blow job skills sin condom. I Offered 20 k. She countered with 30 k. Finished with an energetic jerk as she swayed her thick ass in front of my grinning face. She gave me a big hug and told me that was "Muy Divertido". 45 k for session plus 30 k for BBJ. Doesn't get much better than that.

Today, I banged three chicas in Cali. There's two more cute one's at Dr. Amor I hope to nail tomorrow before my date wit a Non Pro.

More to follow.

Judd.[/QUOTE]I wrote a report about Alejandria some weeks back. She was the second chica I sessioned with since I've been here. She is the best I've had since I've been here but after numerous subsequent visits to New Life I've not been able to be with her again because she's always 'occupada' as if my post about her has made her more popular. Pamela who was given a great report by another poster has also either been busy or absent and I've not been able to sample her. There are numerous American mongers in MDE, I have seen and heard US blokes in every casa I've been to except Zandolay and I've been to many in and out of El Centro. I remember the days when I would spend an entire trip without coming across one yankee. Medellin is becoming the new Sosua.

I took advantage of last minute inexpensive airfares and I am on a short trip to Medellin and Bogota. Mostly I am resume building this trip by hitting traditional spots since I am traveling solo. At the very least I can say I have been there.

I have been to the Downtown casas like New Life on a previous trip and was not impressed so I am sticking to the mid-range places. I like a better facility and I always take an hour. If I had more time I would probably work at finding some hidden gems.

Thai Spa Carrera 81 A #30 AA-30. [URL]http://www.thaispa.com.co/inicio.html[/URL].

Great looking lineup and nice rooms. I went with Natalia. Unfortunately she had many rules. No kissing, no digital penetration. Excellent BJ but it a covered. I spent 165000 pesos including water. Natalia is conversational in English.

Abydos Spa Avenida 33#64-198 Three girl lineup. I chose Luciana because she looked like a girl I worked with in the 1980's who had a boyfriend unfortunately. I receive a BBBJ but I had to tip 20000 pesos. Not the best looking girl in the world but a good performer. Kissing and digital anal play were on the menu. I paid 170000 pesos which included tip and water. Standard price is 140000 pesos. Facilities are okay. Uses the radio for background music and the shower is slow to drain. This spa is across and slightly down the street from Luna Lenera.

Getting to these places from Poblado in the afternoon is a hassle because of the traffic. Expect a 30 minute ride both ways. Taxi should be 10000 to 15000 pesos depending on if the taxi driver knows the way. Thai Spa is hard to find. We looped around a couple of times.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;1844688]... no digital penetration...digital anal play were on the menu...[/QUOTE]Nice report! Well written, but what do you mean by the word digital? I am a bit confused. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;1844465]Unfortunately my buddy isn't that flexible with time off from work, so changing flights isn't going to be possible. Any other suggestions? I've heard some conflicting reports. Some people say places are still open just not as many. Another person I asked said places only close down on actual easter and even then, only some of the places.[/QUOTE]Kazeu,

I would not worry so much about your chances of having a good time in Medellin because of the Holly week. I think there is plenty of fun to have regardless. Keep in mind that the Holly week is the biggest event for those that are serious Christians, Catholics, etc, but not for the putas or their establisments. Do you thing the P4 P girls and places are that serious when it comes to religion? It may be bad for their business on some days of the holly week like holly Thursday 3/24 or Friday 3/25 because business will be slow, somewhat dead, and some will possibly close due to those days being National Colombian Holidays and also the climax of the Holly week. But you never know, you just have to look around, and you may find girls and places opened. Also, get girls from facebook, mileroticos, Colombian cupid, stay at the mansion or ColombianJake if you can, etc, that way you will have moreoptions for the possible slow days. For most people in Colombia, Holly week has become just another excuse to celebrate more, to have fun, eat, drink, and enjoy the good life, so just do the same and have fun. There is an interesting church called la Iglesia de la Candelaria located in el centro of Medellin. In that church the putas are hanging out at the entrance day and night and some short time motels nearby. This is a typical marriage between God and the Devil as both co-exist in this Church. The quality of the girls is bad during the day, but as the day progresses it gets better. Just as a way to explore el Centro check it out on Holly Thursday or Friday because that church should be packed with people on those days. But I don't recommend you get any of those girls at the entrance and don't stay in that area at dark time because it gets dangerous at night. It is a commercial area and pretty safe during light hours. Just go as a cultural exploration and report back what you see. I am sure those putas will be plenty there and hunting on the Holly week. From there, you can walk to many Centro casas nearby such New Life and centro bars like las Conejitas and barra ejecutiva are nearby.

Again I am traveling solo and I felt very comfortable in Fase Dos. Chica prices are 180000 peso. I probably spent 300000 to 350000 pesos when you add in admission, drinks, tips and cab so about $100 at the current exchange rate. This is very favorable in comparison to Hook in Buenos Aires where I would spend at minimum $150 a night. Don't expect a GFE. I interviewed one girl at length and it was clear that there were many rules. So I ended up taking one of the dancers without much interview who I thought was better looking and the best dancer on stage. All this girl wanted to do was ride cowgirl. She spent less than 30 seconds on the covered BJ and then faked gagging. Plus she was one who really did not know how to handle a cock squeezing way too hard. I hate it when they are not sensual.

I bet you can find something you like at Fase Dos. There were probably 6 to 8 that I found attractive. I am in my sixties so I was as old as any customer in the club that I could see. If you see something good make your move otherwise she will get snapped up. Of course, she will be available again in 45 to 60 minutes if you are willing to wait.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1844697]Nice report! Well written, but what do you mean by the word digital? I am a bit confused. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Finger stimulation and play.

[QUOTE=LilBear;1844134]I also need to know when is Holy week. I don't want to end up out there and none of the girls are around.[/QUOTE]A lot of people do go out of town, but a lot of my girls will be ready to assist in any way possible so no worries!

Thanks,

Colombia Jake

Just a correction. That white church that has lots of putas near the entrance is called la iglesia de La Veracruz Calle 51 #52-58 [URL]http://discovercolombia.com/iglesia-de-veracruz/[/URL] not La Candelaria. The Candelaria church is another white painted church located across parque Berrio.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1844699]Kazeu,

There is an interesting church called la Iglesia de la Candelaria located in el centro of Medellin. In that church the putas are hanging out at the entrance day and night and some short time motels nearby. This is a typical marriage between God and the Devil as both co-exist in this Church. The quality of the girls is bad during the day, but as the day progresses it gets better. Just as a way to explore el Centro check it out on Holly Thursday or Friday because that church should be packed with people on those days. But I don't recommend you get any of those girls at the entrance and don't stay in that area at dark time because it gets dangerous at night. It is a commercial area and pretty safe during light hours. Just go as a cultural exploration and report back what you see. I am sure those putas will be plenty there and hunting on the Holly week. From there, you can walk to many Centro casas nearby such New Life and centro bars like las Conejitas and barra ejecutiva are nearby.[/QUOTE]

I've only been in MDE once for Holy week (I generally try to plan to avoid it). Based on that small sample size it really wasn't that bad. There were plenty of women available through Wednesday. Only Thursday and Good Friday were really dead, and even those days if you planned ahead with someone you'd been with previously, you could put something together.

I would go ahead with your trip, but just make sure to pre-arrange something for Thursday and Friday. Don't rely on chicas being readily available, because they likely won't be. It will take a bit more work and planning, but it's doable.

This is not my first trip to MDE. I visited in 2005 and stayed at the Mansion. I was unimpressed and instead spend time in SJO and did some of the Philadelphia Brazilian Scene. I decided to pay another visit to MDE, thanks to the 50% devaluation ($1800 in 2005), direct flight by Delta. It still took me 12 hours to leave from PHL via ATL to MDE. MDE is still hard to get to. A similar strip to SJO would be a direct flight from EWR, leave at 7 am and arrive at noon. I decided to contribute by own two cents to the board given that I received a lot of information from this board. I cashed in some Delta FF miles, made a reservation at the Mansion and was on my way. Make sure you give your credit card information directly to a person on the phone. I was told to email my credit information and a few days later was alerted by my CC company that there were unauthorized charges on the card. I do not think that the problem is with the Mansion staff. Their email may have been hacked. I had to change my CC. I arrived 10:40 pm on Delta; was picked up by a Mansion driver for $80,000 pesos. Thirty minutes later, I was at the Mansion. There were only three girls present. One was doable and she charged me 200,000 pesos for an hour. I tried to arrange to get an English speaking driver to no avail. So, my first night was a dud. A similar arrival at Del Rey at 12:00 midnight, and the party would just be starting.

The next day, there were three chicas at the pool. Many of the guys spend hours on their phones and facebook trying to make an appointment. This is new to me. I prefer to meet the chica in person and if I like her, get her number or facebook account. I made some good friends and visited Energy and New Life. I got a BBBJ from a Chica at Energy who then said I owed her 100,000 pesos for the extra. I said one hour of sex is 140,000 pesos; how will BBBJ be equal to 100,000 pesos? We had agreed on 10,000 pesos. In any case, I give her 50,000 pesos and left. I like the line up at New Life which appears to be the best value for the money. The remaining three days of my trip, I pulled chicas from La Cueva, Mansion, for 150,000 - 200,000. LA Cueva had 6 - 8 chicas at night. The options were limited and the chicas knew it. They pulled 3 - 4 tricks a night. The Mansion need to open LA Cueva at night to a larger number of chicas. Daytime was spend dong office work, getting a manicure, pedicure, and hair cut.

Overall, I think that for a short 3 - 4 day trip with limited Spanish speaking skills, SJO still offers the best value. It is hard to beat the Del Rey with its 24 hour operation, Key Largo night life, and the general party atmosphere. I will give MDE another try. Maybe, there is something that I missed. Leaving MDE airport was a challenge. I was checked in smoothly on business class, went through the X-ray machine, along with my carry on bag through the scanner. A police officer decided to do a second check of my bag. He removed everything from my carry on bag, use a screwdriver to puncture holes in my bag, along with my camera bag. My computer was taken out of the case, and my new Rockport shoe soles removed. This was a surreal experience and uncalled for. I was professionally dressed with a coat and tie. He even took my ticket for revalidation. Eventually, he handed everything back to me. This, for me, is a warning to be careful with MDE. I have never had a similar experience with SJO after ten visits. I must admit that the chicas in MDE are incredibly beautiful. I will probably rotate between MDE and SJO for the foreseeable future. Just my two cents.

[URL]http://casablueroom.com/index.html[/URL]

I went there on a Saturday around noon. Only two girls were available but both were doable. The manager said he would have 7 girls available after 1 PM. I selected a petite redhead. It turned out she had a real tight box so everything was good. Price is 120000 pesos per hour if you are willing to do everything covered. She upsold a BBBJ for 50000 pesos. I countered with 30000 pesos. She just said "Si or No. " I said "Si" which is why all expatriates hate tourists. She must of read Trump's "Art of the Deal. " The final cost was 172000 pesos with a bottled water thrown in. 10000 peso taxi ride one way from Poblado.

If you enjoy massage and sex this is a decent place. Showers only had cold water which is my biggest complaint.

Thanks for the advice Cerebro. I think I know that church! At my last trip to MDE I went there looking for some chicas based on some earlier report about some dudes pulling chicas into short time hotels nearby. When I went there, flesh was definitely for sale, but I have to admit the quality was a bit below my standards. I walked the around the entire block, on the opposite side of the block from the church, there a string of bars with working girls during the day, but like I said, quality was low. I'll check it out again during my trip and report back.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1844699]Kazeu,

I would not worry so much about your chances of having a good time in Medellin because of the Holly week. I think there is plenty of fun to have regardless. Keep in mind that the Holly week is the biggest event for those that are serious Christians, Catholics, etc, but not for the putas or their establisments. Do you thing the P4 P girls and places are that serious when it comes to religion? It may be bad for their business on some days of the holly week like holly Thursday 3/24 or Friday 3/25 because business will be slow, somewhat dead, and some will possibly close due to those days being National Colombian Holidays and also the climax of the Holly week. But you never know, you just have to look around, and you may find girls and places opened. Also, get girls from facebook, mileroticos, Colombian cupid, stay at the mansion or ColombianJake if you can, etc, that way you will have moreoptions for the possible slow days. For most people in Colombia, Holly week has become just another excuse to celebrate more, to have fun, eat, drink, and enjoy the good life, so just do the same and have fun. There is an interesting church called la Iglesia de la Candelaria located in el centro of Medellin. In that church the putas are hanging out at the entrance day and night and some short time motels nearby. This is a typical marriage between God and the Devil as both co-exist in this Church. The quality of the girls is bad during the day, but as the day progresses it gets better. Just as a way to explore el Centro check it out on Holly Thursday or Friday because that church should be packed with people on those days. But I don't recommend you get any of those girls at the entrance and don't stay in that area at dark time because it gets dangerous at night. It is a commercial area and pretty safe during light hours. Just go as a cultural exploration and report back what you see. I am sure those putas will be plenty there and hunting on the Holly week. From there, you can walk to many Centro casas nearby such New Life and centro bars like las Conejitas and barra ejecutiva are nearby.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Combo;1844872]I've only been in MDE once for Holy week (I generally try to plan to avoid it). Based on that small sample size it really wasn't that bad. There were plenty of women available through Wednesday. Only Thursday and Good Friday were really dead, and even those days if you planned ahead with someone you'd been with previously, you could put something together.

I would go ahead with your trip, but just make sure to pre-arrange something for Thursday and Friday. Don't rely on chicas being readily available, because they likely won't be. It will take a bit more work and planning, but it's doable.[/QUOTE]My wingman and I also did our first trip to Medellin during Easter week. Since we were new, we ended picking chicks mostly kfrom the cueva. We had no problems on most days, except Friday. By that time, we had enough contacts, and some of them were willing to come for a visit on Friday. Hence, It was not too bad. Since then, FB became my main tool for meeting chicas.

[QUOTE=Korpu;1844873]This is not my first trip to MDE. I visited in 2005 and stayed at the Mansion. I was unimpressed and instead spend time in SJO and did some of the Philadelphia Brazilian Scene. I decided to pay another visit to MDE, thanks to the 50% devaluation ($1800 in 2005), direct flight by Delta. It still took me 12 hours to leave from PHL via ATL to MDE. MDE is still hard to get to. A similar strip to SJO would be a direct flight from EWR, leave at 7 am and arrive at noon. I decided to contribute by own two cents to the board given that I received a lot of information from this board. I cashed in some Delta FF miles, made a reservation at the Mansion and was on my way. Make sure you give your credit card information directly to a person on the phone. I was told to email my credit information and a few days later was alerted by my CC company that there were unauthorized charges on the card. I do not think that the problem is with the Mansion staff. Their email may have been hacked. I had to change my CC. I arrived 10:40 pm on Delta; was picked up by a Mansion driver for $80,000 pesos. Thirty minutes later, I was at the Mansion. There were only three girls present. One was doable and she charged me 200,000 pesos for an hour. I tried to arrange to get an English speaking driver to no avail. So, my first night was a dud. A similar arrival at Del Rey at 12:00 midnight, and the party would just be starting..[/QUOTE]Hey,

Short trip but thanks for the TR. Sounds like you had a 50/50 time there. Don't know what to tell you other than SJO is SJO and Colombia is Colombia you know? That's how it it and I've said it a ton of times DR and CR have the full on rock out party vibe vs Colombia and a smaller vibe. Like house party style.

Granted it might have just been an off weekend.

Interesting your customs experience. When I first started coming and going from Mede it was gnarl like that. Odd why you got chosen. Did you indulge in any party favors and then touch something in your bag there by contaminating it? I've been picked at "random" and it's just quick pat down and look into the carry on and back pack and moving along.

I arrived at 10:30 PM which is way too early. There were very few girls on the floor although the strip show had started. All the girls were on the floor around midnight and the space was 75% filled with customers. A few guys bring dates. 12000 peso taxi ride from Poblado. The house taxi charged me the same on the way back so there is no problem taking one. Admission is 10000 pesos. Vodka tonic was 42000 pesos but they gave me the whole bottle of tonic so afterwords I just bought a shot of vodka. Shots of tequila for the girls are 22000 pesos. I was giving 2000 peso tips to the dancers and they seemed happy. The club has a great layout and I enjoyed watching the girls on the stage. They play decent music for the most part.

Rooms and the girl are 300000 pesos. I took one of the dancers Angela back there. She was not the best looking and had a see-section scar. She was a good performer but it is a very much wham bam thank you mam type of experience. BJ was covered and she would not accept a tip to do bareback. She was willing to kiss. I guess these 21 year old girls like being energetic and wild rather than have a sensuous sex experience. I do tend to like massage house for the sexual experience. Angela had a rubber on me and was blowing me before I got my pants totally off.

The night cost between 450000 and 500000 pesos for about three hours. I am getting about 3250 to 1 from the ATM. Some ATMs like BBVA are higher but the restrict you to 300000 peso pulls which is a hassle. It is definitely worth going 300 girls or La Isla if you are on vacation in Medellin. I would say the quality of girls is not any better than Fase Dos but the facility is nicer. I did not feel unsafe at either Fase Dos or La Isla traveling without a wingman and way past my fighting prime. Carry only what you can afford to lose is the rule my old man always taught me.

I'll be back with part 2 later.

Day 1.

Wingman and I landed close to midnight. That said our first priority was getting some pesos then heading to the hotel.

I changed the max (400 k pesos around 124 UDS at the time) I could at the ATM. Went outside to hail a cab to laurels.

The cost of the trip was around 70 k. We had two reserved rooms at tuapartmento Santo Tomas (you can find them on [URL]booking.com[/URL]) location. The thing is we get there after much searching from the cabby and they only have one room. The desk girl calls the guy on the phone and says my wingman didn't reply to the confirmation email the day before so he let his room go. Meh. He decides to fix us up in another spot he has a few blocks away. So off the 3 of us go in the middle of the night Wing and I with our huge 2 week luggage; to the new place. Considering I got a nice view of the desk girl's jiggling ass in in front of me in her PJs I was willing to forgive the screw up. We get checked in to the new place and decide to call it a night.

2.

Priorities are priorities we need pesos ASAP and its a Saturday. We take a quick glance at the rooms we got out of desperation and notice a few irregularities but well get back to that later. We need cash then pussy. Head out and everyone is telling us unicentro is the only place to change money on this side of town on a Saturday. We get the there and the cambia spots are on piso 2. Each of them ask for passport / ID and wasn't taking a photocopy. I had already hid mine so wingman exchanged for both of us now finally off for some pootang!

The closest and best place to go on on this side of town was Energy (Carrera 74 # 49-101, near Calle 50 (Colombia) right next to the Stadium) One of the reasons I like this place is because the mamasan seems used to speaking with extrajeros. He Spanish is slow and very clear. Wingman speak zero Spanish so I translate for him.

Its about 2 pm and she showcases around 13 girls. I forget all their names. All I know is I want the tall slim blond with the biggest bubble but I've seen. Wingman wants to know if any of the girls he just saw speak English. I ask mamas an and we start laughing after a brief exchange. He wants to know what's funny. I said she told me she does have a girl who speaks English but she is with another gringo who demanded and English speaking girl.

As always energy room and clean and nice. Session la rubia was good. I didn't ask for any extras. Just wanted he to help me bust my well needed first nut this trip and she obliged. I did ask her about the ass of hers. Was it real? She said only her tit were fake (obvious) but her ass is 100% real. I believe her. Damage for the half hour is 115 k. Back to the hotel ate napped fucked around then decided to hit Fase Dos (ask any cabby) at night. I'd never been there before. Wasn't our thing. Too much plastic. Too fake. Didn't see a GFE happening here at all. They want 180 k for 45 min. Decided to leave and head back to Laureles. As it was late decided to hit a local joint Disco Club 44 or apotheosis club. Its on San Juan north side of the street west of 70. Its 10 k to get in and you get a little ticket giving you credit towards a drink. Don't worry about the ticket though. Before you find a seat I guarantee a girl will swipe it from your hands and asks you to get her a drink. Ended up choosing a girl who was off doing her own thing. The session with her wasn't bad. I would say lackluster would describe it better. She was very cautious and orderly. No fingers in coochie, no kissing. She did just the bare minimum to get me off. Mission accomplished. Sort of. It was like 100 k for the half hour. I did manage to exchange numbers with her. Back to hotel to call it a night.

We had to ring the bell and wake the desk girl up to let us in. Not cool.

3.

Now we got to take a really good look at these last minute accommodations we were stuck in. First of all the front door is locked 24/7.

Day or night we must get the girl to let us in and out. I had more freedom to come and go when I was 12. Then there were the rooms themselves. Wingman got a tiny room. Mine was huge. Same price. Neither had toilet seats. Hot water lasted 2 min then went to freezing cold and scalding hot. Then the building itself was still partially under construction. Our days in this place were numbered.

Decided to finally hit centro to session at a classic. New life (calle 56 #43-39 piso 2). I picked first but wished I had waited. Went with a check called Yulia. Nice girl but once the clothes came off I see she had a lot of work done. She was wearing an girdle type undergarment. Lats of bandages front this or that. She just had too much going on. However I did get satisfaction. Came out and wingman was still searching.

I decided to choose for him and wish I had waited. The girl he got was 18 and very new to this. Said he had a good time with her.

4. Goodbye shitty hotel. We had enough of the prison. The girl was shocked to see us leave as we had a few days left that were paid for.

We went to Santorini on Cra 70. It was closer to center of action on that side of town. Rooms were 55 k a night with air, Wifi, hot water.

No complaints.

Wingman isn't on the forum. He gets all his monger info through me. He didn't trust that I RTFF or got enough info. Since he is old school he wanted to go somewhere with other mongers to have a beer in hopes of getting info he thinks I may have missed. I told him just about everything is on the forum but he insisted. So he wanted to go to mansion. Now I'm not going to fault the fellas at mansion for having their own rules just relay what happened. We get there after a long cab ride and were turned away. We were told the place is only for guests with a reservation. So much for that. We hit up luca lunera around 7 pm and there was only one girl so we left. It was getting late so we decided to hit up Energy. I quickly sessioned with a teeny tiny 20 year old girl who could have passed for east indian. She was very bubbly and cheerful which was great. Came out and waited for wingman and met another guy from the states waiting for his wingman.

Anyhow we got to talking and he told me about a horrible time he had at fase 2. I told him glad I passed that place and told him we tried to go to mansion earlier. Before I could finish he basically told me his mansion story and it was basically the same. Tried to go. Couldn't get in and left. So much for that. Chit chatted a bit with the fellas when all of our wingmen were back and we closed energy down. Back to the hotel for the night.

5. slow day hung out around the new hotel getting aquianted with the area.

Decided to try a new spot for me chicas punto com (calle 54 #49-97 piso 2) there are a few things I like about this place. 1. Its very discreet. There is a mini mall out front the casa is in the back of it one the 2nd floor. 2. the girls are on the younger side 18-25 their card says. This is not energy. The girls presented themselves super fast and went back. Mamasan (a girl herself) had all the girls come out for us at once so we can decide. I ended up with another teeny tiny girl. Once I the room she was pleasant enough. Right off the top she was offering perks. Said she would BBBJ or do anal bare for extra if I wanted it. I said thanks but no thanks and did the standard deed. She did give me her whatsapp if I wanted a house call. Wind man told me his girl would only BJ with condom. No perks. He like to go bareback and was pissed to discover my girl was down for whatever. Again YMMV in casas. You never know what you are going to get till you are in the room.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;1845164]

The night cost between 450000 and 500000 pesos for about three hours. [/QUOTE]350 000 taxi include is the maximum and they stay until the morning. I never gave everything before because I know they want to leave before.

It's simple they accept that. Look, when it's not Thursday, Wednesday or Saturday, they will earn nothing. Because there is so few customers at la isla when it's not end of the week.

So, earn 50% of the minimum revenue, in just a one night, it's really an opportunity.

[QUOTE=Kyrawz;1845269]350 000 taxi include is the maximum and they stay until the morning. I never gave everything before because I know they want to leave before.

It's simple they accept that. Look, when it's not Thursday, Wednesday or Saturday, they will earn nothing. Because there is so few customers at la isla when it's not end of the week.

So, earn 50% of the minimum revenue, in just a one night, it's really an opportunity.[/QUOTE]My total cost for a Saturday night 3-hour stay at the club including sex, drinks, dancer tips, chica drinks and round trip taxi was around 450000 pesos. Sex using the on-site La Isla motel was 300000 pesos. I paid cash at the registrar for the girl and room. No money went directly to the girl. The girl asked for a tip but I thought two drinks were enough of a tip. She was disappointed but I will only tip for BBBJ or anal I guess. I had 20 50000 peso bills in my pocket and came home with 11 plus change in my pocket. The night might have been closer to 420000 pesos. So I think your 350000 takeout is nearly equivalent to my 300000 in-house and partying at the club.

I agree with you. The quality of the girls that hang out at the Veracruz church is generally bad. In fact, I have never picked a girl there. The girls I have seen there were so bad (fat, ugly, old unkempt, tranny looking) that I would not take not even for free or even me getting paid to do them, and I am not that picky LOL. I only noted because I read from a previous posters that had success in finding girls there. I guess you could but you have to check and check the place repeatedly at different hours of the day and may get some luck. But in any case I visit the place out of curiosity and because it one of the best shopping areas (Carabobo passage) of el centro and to be around real local people and so many interesting things around that area. There is even a Hare Krisna small temple near the church where they have meditation and yoga classes and vegetarian food. Here is a little clip of young Colombian people asked what they think about La Veracruz Iglesia and showing a bit of what's's around: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKD0ZmmONko[/URL].

[QUOTE=Kazeu;1844900]Thanks for the advice Cerebro. I think I know that church! At my last trip to MDE I went there looking for some chicas based on some earlier report about some dudes pulling chicas into short time hotels nearby. When I went there, flesh was definitely for sale, but I have to admit the quality was a bit below my standards. I walked the around the entire block, on the opposite side of the block from the church, there a string of bars with working girls during the day, but like I said, quality was low. I'll check it out again during my trip and report back.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1845153]Sounds like you had a 50/50 time there. Don't know what to tell you other than SJO is SJO and Colombia is Colombia you know? [/QUOTE]I wouldn't even say SJO is SJO and Colombia is Colombia, because he only compared one hotel/hooker pick-up spot in each city after midnight. It is kind of ridiculous to come to any generalization of an entire city using only one observation. There are tons of other spots throughout the city and if you do not like the vibe in one you can simply move on to the next. And each place has a certain time when it will be on hit. You can't expect each place to be live when you are ready.

I know if I go to Conejita's at 2am Tuesday night that it will be dead, so I will go to Barra Ejecutiva where it will be live. If I go back to Conejita's at 7pm on a Friday night I know I will be in for the time of my life. I would not say this city/country sucks or another city/country is better because I went to one venue at a particular time which may have been a down time for that place.

And then the girl when he first got to the Mansion charged him 200k for 1 hour. I thought people said there was a going rate there of 150k? He did mention that he had limited Spanish skills and I think many guys will pay a premium this way. Hence them paying $100 at the Del Rey when they could go to the San Jose casas and get girls for $20 or less. I would be anxious to see which spot he thought was better after learning some Spanish. I know he was able to get out and visit Energy and New Life as well, but it reminded me of guys who would go to Rio and not go outside of the 3 Copacabana blocks that enclosed Help, Meia Pataca, and Monte Carlo. Hardly enough data points to come to a reliable conclusion.

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;1845219]Decided to try a new spot for me chicas punto com (calle 54 #49-97 piso 2) there are a few things I like about this place. Mamasan (a girl herself) had all the girls come out for us at once so we can decide. [/QUOTE]Mamasan used to work there as well. Then she married the owner. I wonder if the tiny girl you hit was the same midget that I hit. Great report man.

On one of my trips to a casa, I got talking to a taxi driver who had some minimal English and I asked about Fase Dos. He said the chicas at Fase Dos were all putas and he knew some chicas that were not putas. He showed me some pictures and we exchanged whatsapp numbers. On Saturday, I arranged to meet Carolina on Sunday. Of course, the time kept changing and in the end she was 40 minutes late on the last agreed upon time of 20:00.

For all the hassle, it was the best sex of the trip so far. Even though it was covered, she got me off with her mouth once and manually on the second after a fairly vigorous pounding. French kissed. Accepted anal play with the finger and that orifice might be open.

She says she only does this twice a month but man she could really grind when she gave me a lap dance so I have my suspicions. She also showed me some nude selfies which made me even more suspicious.

Even so playing with a 20-year old girl who was not mechanical or burnt out was a good time.

We agreed on 200000 pesos for 90 minutes but she stayed a little over 2 hours so I gave her 250000 pesos plus 20000 pesos for taxi.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;1845648]On one of my trips to a casa, I got talking to a taxi driver who had some minimal English and I asked about Fase Dos. He said the chicas at Fase Dos were all putas and he knew some chicas that were not putas. He showed me some pictures and we exchanged whatsapp numbers. On Saturday, I arranged to meet Carolina on Sunday. Of course, the time kept changing and in the end she was 40 minutes late on the last agreed upon time of 20:00.

For all the hassle, it was the best sex of the trip so far. Even though it was covered, she got me off with her mouth once and manually on the second after a fairly vigorous pounding. French kissed. Accepted anal play with the finger and that orifice might be open.

She says she only does this twice a month but man she could really grind when she gave me a lap dance so I have my suspicions. She also showed me some nude selfies which made me even more suspicious.

Even so playing with a 20-year old girl who was not mechanical or burnt out was a good time.

We agreed on 200000 pesos for 90 minutes but she stayed a little over 2 hours so I gave her 250000 pesos plus 20000 pesos for taxi.[/QUOTE]I think you overpaid. Life in Medellin is very cheap.

I just asked a beautiful girl in New Life to join me for 3 hours at my apartment at night for 120.000 taxi included. And she said OK.

270.000 for 2 hours is way too expensive.

[QUOTE=Manser;1845909]I think you overpaid. Life in Medellin is very cheap.

I just asked a beautiful girl in New Life to join me for 3 hours at my apartment at night for 120.000 taxi included. And she said OK.

270.000 for 2 hours is way too expensive.[/QUOTE]How much time and money did you spend to find your gem? You need to factor in those costs. If you look at the agency prepago sites, 150000 to 300000 pesos is commonly quoted for 75 minutes. How much time do you spend in Medellin? If I had more time, I bet I could find cheaper. I disagree that it was expensive but that is a relative term. I am not as experienced in Medellin but my experience in Buenos Aires tells me that the super hot girls move up in price. There is a famous case where a girl who guys were doing for 300 pesos at a privado ended up with her picture on the wall at Hippopotamus which was a high end night club getting 2000 pesos an hour. And from my observation, getting high traffic at that price. Watch out your gem may be headed to La Isla or 300 Girls.

I was eating at Archies last night. There was a table of ten and it did not appear like any of the women were with the men as couples so it looked like a work group. All the woman were stacked, well-dressed and real lookers. My imagination is that to be a secretary in Medellin you have to be a stone fox. I have not see anything of that quality at any place I have been to so far. The deal of the century is that you can get a cappuccino with a shot of Bailey's Irish Creme for 9500 pesos in this town. Now that is cheap.

Greetings all,

New here.

Question. "The Mansion" I keep seeing people refer to here. Is this the actual name of this place? I've searched "The Mansion" and "Medellin Mansion" on Google maps and multiple places come up and I don't know which one it is.

What exactly is this place too? From reading this forum it sounds like one of a kind hotel that have chicas on the premise for visitors to associate with. I'm planning to visit MDE at the end of this coming April with a group of friends of mine (roughly 4-5 of us).

The past 3 days I've been doing tons of research and have compiled maps and list of all places in Poblado, Laureles Estadio, and El Centro that would be potential hot spots for us.

I'm having trouble picking where we should stay however because there is tons of options all over and I'm aware of the YMMV experience with a lot of these places.

That and in my group with 4-5 different preferences. Some want to be in the upper class Poblado area and away from the sketchy part of town, but then some don't want to spend over $50 a night for a hotel.

I have a lot to think about when choosing where we could be at. Maybe this "Mansion" option would be best for us but I can't locate it.

Thanks in advance for any replies.

[URL]http://www.fantasiasenergy.com/[/URL]

I went around 1:00 PM and there was a lineup of 15 girls. I chose Zara or number 42. She is very petite which is usually not my type. She gave an excellent body massage and sex of course. I can recommend her.

They charge 140000 pesos for an hour but I was there for only 50 minutes. The chica union must be active because again I experienced that she would not budge from the 50000 peso tip for a BBBJ. I paid.

Decent place.

I met up with Tequila Tim who I know from Buenos Aires and Jonesie. Jonesie took me to Paradise Spa which is not on the casa map yet. I was surprised in that it was as good as facility as Energy, Abydos or Blue Room. The price was 75000 for an hour. I saw a lineup of 6 girls of which I thought 3 were doable. I went with Nicole.

Nicole is more the sweetheart type which is a good change of pace. She was very warm and friendly. Massage was very soft where I like a stronger massage. She also wanted a tip for BBBJ so I offered her 20000 pesos which she took. Even though she did it I felt she was uncomfortable with the BBBJ.

I am thinking I should have spent more time exploring central casas.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;1846104]How much time and money did you spend to find your gem? You need to factor in those costs. If you look at the agency prepago sites, 150000 to 300000 pesos is commonly quoted for 75 minutes. How much time do you spend in Medellin? If I had more time, I bet I could find cheaper. I disagree that it was expensive but that is a relative term. I am not as experienced in Medellin but my experience in Buenos Aires tells me that the super hot girls move up in price. There is a famous case where a girl who guys were doing for 300 pesos at a privado ended up with her picture on the wall at Hippopotamus which was a high end night club getting 2000 pesos an hour. And from my observation, getting high traffic at that price. Watch out your gem may be headed to La Isla or 300 Girls.[/QUOTE]You are certainly correct that price paid tends to move inversely with time on the ground. Guys on a four-day vacation generally don't care about watching what they pay. Whereas a guy on his 15th trip who has two weeks on the ground tends to be a lot more concerned with not ruining the scene.

As far as hotness and price, I'm not so sure. My last visit, the hottest girl I did was in a low-budget Centro casa. 40 K (extended to an hour for 30 k more) for an absolute stunner that performed top-notch. Better than any of the girls at Fase 2, the Mansion, Energy,etc. The key is I had to spend a few hours walking around Centro to find her, which is your time-money tradeoff.

I too have been investigating Medellin for a trip in late March and Early April.

You can contact the Mansion as follows:

Email: [EMAIL]info@hotelmedellinplaza.com[/EMAIL].

I worked with Carlos Castro, Office Assistant. He was very helpful.

The phone numbers are as follows:

Alexandra Moreno.

Customer Service and Reservations.

Hotel M. SAS.

US Line 312 546 4301.

(57)(4) 266 33 58 – (57)(4) 266 36 31.

In the end I opted for the Hotel Sites.

Have made contact with a nice girl through Facebook who I hope will be my guide and Spanish instructor.

For serious intimacy I have found some sites that look really promising:

[URL]http://bellezaspaisas.net/prepagos-medellin.html[/URL]

[URL]http://www.paisasdivinas.com.co/prepagos-medellin-independientes-masajistas-paisas/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/Medellin[/URL]

I found these searching all over International Sex Guide pages.

Also. Virtually all the working girls advertise, at one time or another, on.

[URL]http://co.mileroticos.com/colombia/[/URL]

Good hunting! LG.

[QUOTE=ShardRifter201;1846136]Greetings all,

New here.

Question. "The Mansion" I keep seeing people refer to here. Is this the actual name of this place? I've searched "The Mansion" and "Medellin Mansion" on Google maps and multiple places come up and I don't know which one it is.

What exactly is this place too? From reading this forum it sounds like one of a kind hotel that have chicas on the premise for visitors to associate with. I'm planning to visit MDE at the end of this coming April with a group of friends of mine (roughly 4-5 of us).

The past 3 days I've been doing tons of research and have compiled maps and list of all places in Poblado, Laureles Estadio, and El Centro that would be potential hot spots for us..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ShardRifter201;1846136]Greetings all,

New here.

Question. "The Mansion" I keep seeing people refer to here. Is this the actual name of this place? I've searched "The Mansion" and "Medellin Mansion" on Google maps and multiple places come up and I don't know which one it is.

What exactly is this place too? From reading this forum it sounds like one of a kind hotel that have chicas on the premise for visitors to associate with. I'm planning to visit MDE at the end of this coming April with a group of friends of mine (roughly 4-5 of us).

The past 3 days I've been doing tons of research and have compiled maps and list of all places in Poblado, Laureles Estadio, and El Centro that would be potential hot spots for us.

I'm having trouble picking where we should stay however because there is tons of options all over and I'm aware of the YMMV experience with a lot of these places.

That and in my group with 4-5 different preferences. Some want to be in the upper class Poblado area and away from the sketchy part of town, but then some don't want to spend over $50 a night for a hotel.

I have a lot to think about when choosing where we could be at. Maybe this "Mansion" option would be best for us but I can't locate it.

Thanks in advance for any replies.[/QUOTE][URL]hotelmedellinplaza.com[/URL] is the website. Their US line # is 1-312-546-4301.

Hello,

If any gentlemen want to join me in conversation and idea sharing please do not hesitate to contact me. Here for 5 more days, hundred % gringo and.

Speak Spanish.

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[QUOTE=HuskerDude;1846345][URL]hotelmedellinplaza.com[/URL] is the website. Their US line # is 1-312-546-4301.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the link. The Mansion is nothing like I pictured it to be. Those 278 k rooms remind me of my 35 k centro rooms. How many girls hang out there at peak hours vs nonpeak hours? With only 12 rooms maybe Shard should have made reservations long ago for his large group. It may be hard to get that many people in that due to the popularity of the place.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1845449]Mamasan used to work there as well. Then she married the owner. I wonder if the tiny girl you hit was the same midget that I hit. Great report man.[/QUOTE]I hit that midget there too, I had too! LOL.

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;1846345][URL]hotelmedellinplaza.com[/URL] is the website. Their US line # is 1-312-546-4301.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=MrEnternational;1846376]Thanks for the link. The Mansion is nothing like I pictured it to be. Those 278 k rooms remind me of my 35 k centro rooms. How many girls hang out there at peak hours vs nonpeak hours? With only 12 rooms maybe Shard should have made reservations long ago for his large group. It may be hard to get that many people in that due to the popularity of the place.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the replies. This place looks great but I'll keep this option to the side if not for now then at least until if I plan to come back. Which I'm sure I will come back, Colombia sounds the the Thailand of South America.

My group and I came to the collective agreement yesterday of staying in the Laureles Estadio neighborhood either at Hotel Laureles 70 or Hotel Parque 70 for our April trip.

Nightly prices that cater to the preferences of everyone in my group, is in a relatively safe neighborhood (from what I read at least compared to El Centro), has clubs within walking distance, Estadio Metro Station nearby, and are Chica friendly long as we book our rooms for 2 (according to some reports from here.).

Wish us the best!

[QUOTE=ShardRifter201;1846567]Thanks for the replies. This place looks great but I'll keep this option to the side if not for now then at least until if I plan to come back. Which I'm sure I will come back, Colombia sounds the the Thailand of South America.

My group and I came to the collective agreement yesterday of staying in the Laureles Estadio neighborhood either at Hotel Laureles 70 or Hotel Parque 70 for our April trip.

Nightly prices that cater to the preferences of everyone in my group, is in a relatively safe neighborhood (from what I read at least compared to El Centro), has clubs within walking distance, Estadio Metro Station nearby, and are Chica friendly long as we book our rooms for 2 (according to some reports from here.).

Wish us the best![/QUOTE]I have stayed at the Penthouse. When it existed and run by Aussie Greg and Robert. Went to visit Mansion then also. I think the main advantage of the mansion is not necessarily the value for the money. I was a first timer with no Spanish. So I got to hang out with a bunch of fellow mongers and Robert was a great host. He took us around to brothels and clubs as well as restaurants, etc. If you already know Medellin and speak Spanish, of course you don't need to stay there.

[QUOTE=ShardRifter201;1846136]Greetings all,

New here.

Question. "The Mansion" I keep seeing people refer to here. Is this the actual name of this place? I've searched "The Mansion" and "Medellin Mansion" on Google maps and multiple places come up and I don't know which one it is.

What exactly is this place too? From reading this forum it sounds like one of a kind hotel that have chicas on the premise for visitors to associate with. I'm planning to visit MDE at the end of this coming April with a group of friends of mine (roughly 4-5 of us).

The past 3 days I've been doing tons of research and have compiled maps and list of all places in Poblado, Laureles Estadio, and El Centro that would be potential hot spots for us.

I'm having trouble picking where we should stay however because there is tons of options all over and I'm aware of the YMMV experience with a lot of these places..[/QUOTE]Staying in Laurles is nice. Lots of nice restaurants and some clubs.

But, if you come to Medellin thinking it will be easy to pick up girls, I think you will be disappointed. Women do not go out alone to clubs normally. They are usually part of a group. Your options will be casas (massage parlors), strip clubs or independents. You should work really diligently at pipelining the independents, or you guys will be holding your dicks for the most part. Medellin is an awesome place for women but it is not as easy as you might think. That is why most guys recommend staying at the Mansion first time.

[QUOTE=Crypton;1846692]I have stayed at the Penthouse. When it existed and run by Aussie Greg and Robert. Went to visit Mansion then also. I think the main advantage of the mansion is not necessarily the value for the money. I was a first timer with no Spanish. So I got to hang out with a bunch of fellow mongers and Robert was a great host. He took us around to brothels and clubs as well as restaurants, etc. If you already know Medellin and speak Spanish, of course you don't need to stay there.[/QUOTE]If you want the nicest place your funds can buy, the Mansion isn't for you. There are significantly nicer apartments and hotels that will cost less.

The advantage to the Mansion is that you have instant camaraderie with 11 other like-minded visitors. If you don't need this or if you visit MDE with a couple friends, you'll probably be happier elsewhere. You also have available chicas hanging out. However finding chicas in MDE shouldn't be problem if you've read this site. Prostitution is legal in Colombia and MDE is chock full of attractive females looking to supplement their income.

FWIW I frequently stay at the Mansion as I like the camaraderie with my fellow guests (many whom I've met on previous trips). I also like the the staff (Alexa, Carlos, Juan, the maids, etc) and yes even Greg and Robert.

Greetings,

What hotels do you guys recommend closer to centro that are "nicer" and you can bring girls back with no problems? Any information is appreciated.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=ShardRifter201;1846567]My group and I came to the collective agreement yesterday of staying in the Laureles Estadio neighborhood[/QUOTE]My go to place is on La Setenta (70), one block from metro Estadio, Hotel Villa Real, only 60 k a night and 20 k chica fee if they see you. I try and get the chica to come up alone, sometimes works. There is a guy there Luis, that speaks perfect English. Can help with the normal things but is a doofus with mongering. Can you say pussy wupt. Highly recommend this area for access to the whole city via metro, activities, clubs, bars, etc. Nightlife goes on most of the night. Street walkers out front sometimes. Look for the guy in a wheelchair, seems to be their pimp. Never partook as some look very young.

I was in Medellin basically 5 days. Twice my taxi was stopped and the taxi driver and I were asked to leave the taxi and we were patted down. I do not know what flag was causing the police to pick us out as other cars were passing.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;1846777]I was in Medellin basically 5 days. Twice my taxi was stopped and the taxi driver and I were asked to leave the taxi and we were patted down. I do not know what flag was causing the police to pick us out as other cars were passing.[/QUOTE]Luck of the draw, just checking the papers of the operator of the vehicle. In 20+ trips been stopped twice. I never had my passport. They want to see your entry stamp so now I get a copy of it and my picture page when I check in at the hotel and carry that with. All have said that would suffice.

[QUOTE=LilBear;1844122]My question is can five days in Medellin for a first trip be okay just to experience Colombia? Or should I just wait until I can get more time? I know that there is much more to see and do as well as other places to visit but I just want to do a quick trip to see it. Will it be worth it for five days? All info is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]5 days is a good amount of time if you have some help getting you to the right places and with the right type of girls! It can fly bye if your just winging it! Between my tours and girlfriends we will keep you busy for 5 days! Kelly pictured wants to meet you!

Thanks,

Colombia Jake

Noticed a lot of you are looking for monger friendly hotels. I just reserved a condo in the Castropol region of Poblado with a pool, gym, basketball courts, free parking, and 24 hour security. Got an extra bedroom available if anybody is interested. PM me. Of course, monger friendly. I am a soon to be med school grad and coming to Medellin for some much deserved vacation. A couple of my buddies will be visiting as well. Time to party.

Here is a pic some business cards that I collected while walking in el Centro or visiting some of the casas.

Was in MDE on business this week and took advantage to hit up several of the casas that stay open late.

Two visits to Energy, which I visited on previous trips. Nice line up with several 7's and 8's. Chose Zara (#42) a 26 year old Paisa with a spinner build. Nice service. Everything covered the first night but on the second visit she gave me a nice BBBJ after I warmed her up with some DATY. Nice facilities, although showers are cold water only. Damage - 140 k for one hour.

I also visited Thai Spa. I arrived at 9 pm. From other reports here I expected a nice line up but there were only 2 chicas available, both of which were only 6's. I chose the slimmer of the 2. 21 year old Paisa by the name of Jennifer. She told me that she is new to the business having start the only a week ago. Nice massage to begin and then decent CBJ. When me moved to the FS stage things got really hot. We went at it for a good 30 minutes non-stop in a variety of positions. We were both drenched in sweat when I finally popped. She gave me a tight hug and DFK before we hit the shower.

Nice place but drinks are a rip-off. 20 k for a beer! Damage, 160 K for one hour.

[QUOTE=KingAmongKings;1847294]Noticed a lot of you are looking for monger friendly hotels. I just reserved a condo in the Castropol region of Poblado with a pool, gym, basketball courts, free parking, and 24 hour security. Got an extra bedroom available if anybody is interested. PM me. Of course, monger friendly. I am a soon to be med school grad and coming to Medellin for some much deserved vacation. A couple of my buddies will be visiting as well. Time to party.[/QUOTE]No wonder this world is going to the chitter. We now have a med grad who cannot find the appropriate thread to post his postings about accommodations. This Colombia board has many sub forums that you can find in the index. They are there for a reason. If you have a reading comprehension problem, or are to illiterate to find the correct thread to post in, please send me a message and I will be happy to help you out.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2654-Medellin-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments[/URL]

Visited Thai Spa. Entered the reception area serenaded by Oriental music giving the premises that eastern flavor. Was presented with 4 chicas:

Luciana.

Salome.

Natalia.

Lena.

This casa has the most modern facilities of all the casas I've been to in Medellin and that includes the old Leutron not the new one which I've not been to yet. The room was a bit small but comfortable.

I am certain that my choice would have turned heads on the street six years ago. However, she turned out to be a star fish at one point closing her eyes while I attended to her once perfect body (I presume). She clearly was not happy with her life, perhaps she was accustomed being pleased by guys rather than the other way around especially with a foreigner the other side of sixty. Anyway the ultimate purpose of my visit was fulfilled.

I really enjoyed the music that was played in the room. 40's and 50's jazz with vocals by the likes of Frank Sinatra, Sammy Davis, Jr. , Peggy Lee, Dean Martin, etc. Music my dad used to play when I was a kid, which I still enjoy.

It's a shame that a casa with such good facilities did not have a better lineup.

Dear Old Parr,

I have seen you write a similar message already in the past, but I just ignored it due to its lack of thoughtfulness, angry nature and poor attitude. I was going to ignore this one as well, but perhaps some insight will keep you from not posting the same lame reply in the future. In addition, I hate coming to a site filled with sex and seeing such an angry person on it. It is very disappointing.

Not everybody goes through nor has time to analyze every sub-forum on ISG. Some of us do real work to keep our world out of the "chitter" as you put it.

Some of the guys were asking about monger friendly hotels on here and so I replied to that. It is about helping each other out. Not about making sure every message is perfectly organized. If you had a job that dealt with real issues, then you would understand how petty you sound.

I do in fact appreciate organization, but rather than ridiculing people with repeated condescending messages, a more effective approach would be to just post the link along with a less hate-filled speech. May I suggest having another Old Parr and chilling out my friend.

Best,

King

[QUOTE=OldParr;1847643]No wonder this world is going to the chitter. We now have a med grad who cannot find the appropriate thread to post his postings about accommodations. This Colombia board has many sub forums that you can find in the index. They are there for a reason. If you have a reading comprehension problem, or are to illiterate to find the correct thread to post in, please send me a message and I will be happy to help you out.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2654-Medellin-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments[/URL][/QUOTE]

Thanks for the valuable report. Cold water at a Medellin spot that charges what Energy does is not acceptable. Several Centro shit holes have the electric heaters on their shower heads. This is good to know, it helps my feet know how to vote.

[QUOTE=Lion55;1847627]Was in MDE on business this week and took advantage to hit up several of the casas that stay open late.

Two visits to Energy, which I visited on previous trips. Nice line up with several 7's and 8's. Chose Zara (#42) a 26 year old Paisa with a spinner build. Nice service. Everything covered the first night but on the second visit she gave me a nice BBBJ after I warmed her up with some DATY. Nice facilities, although showers are cold water only. Damage - 140 k for one hour.

I also visited Thai Spa. I arrived at 9 pm. From other reports here I expected a nice line up but there were only 2 chicas available, both of which were only 6's. I chose the slimmer of the 2. 21 year old Paisa by the name of Jennifer. She told me that she is new to the business having start the only a week ago. Nice massage to begin and then decent CBJ. When me moved to the FS stage things got really hot. We went at it for a good 30 minutes non-stop in a variety of positions. We were both drenched in sweat when I finally popped. She gave me a tight hug and DFK before we hit the shower.

Nice place but drinks are a rip-off. 20 k for a beer! Damage, 160 K for one hour.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1847980]Thanks for the valuable report. Cold water at a Medellin spot that charges what Energy does is not acceptable. Several Centro shit holes have the electric heaters on their shower heads. This is good to know, it helps my feet know how to vote.[/QUOTE]For the record not all the rooms in Energy have only cold water. Some, probably most, have hot as well. There was one room in particular where on one day I got only cold water and on another day I got hot water.

[QUOTE=KingAmongKings;1847897]Dear Old Parr,

I have seen you write a similar message already in the past, but I just ignored it due to its lack of thoughtfulness, angry nature and poor attitude. I was going to ignore this one as well, but perhaps some insight will keep you from not posting the same lame reply in the future. In addition, I hate coming to a site filled with sex and seeing such an angry person on it. It is very disappointing.

Not everybody goes through nor has time to analyze every sub-forum on ISG. Some of us do real work to keep our world out of the "chitter" as you put it.

Some of the guys were asking about monger friendly hotels on here and so I replied to that. It is about helping each other out. Not about making sure every message is perfectly organized. If you had a job that dealt with real issues, then you would understand how petty you sound.

I do in fact appreciate organization, but rather than ridiculing people with repeated condescending messages, a more effective approach would be to just post the link along with a less hate-filled speech. May I suggest having another Old Parr and chilling out my friend.

Best,

King[/QUOTE]Far from angry, I just get straight to the point and tell it like it is. To many people do not use the index so threads get cluttered with chit that does not belong in them, so I simply pointed it out, and provided the link to the thread that corresponded to your message.

Anyone on the board ever fantasize about fucking a pornstar like Sara Jay? Then, head to the San Diego strip club, and seek out a chica named Natalie. This chica was a monster. She's a fake blonde with a huge ass, and big fake tits. I ended up fucking this broad, and her ass was a dead ringer for Sara Jay's big bum. Her fluffy ass cheeks were bouncing off my stomach. It was a surreal moment for me, and a great way to finish off my time in MDE.

Late,

Judd.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1847980]Several Centro shit holes have the electric heaters on their shower heads. [/QUOTE]I am always afraid I am going to get electrocuted from shoddy electrical work and hanging wires with unprotected circuits!

I have never seen a GFCI receptacle or breaker used! Is a GFCI even part of the electrical building code?

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1848211]I am always afraid I am going to get electrocuted from shoddy electrical work and hanging wires with unprotected circuits![/QUOTE]LOL. Happened to me a long time ago at my ex girlfriend's house in San Jose. I was in the shower early in the morning. The water was cold as a mf. I reached up and touched something on that showerhead trying to get the water hot and it shocked the shit out of me. Needless to say, I didn't worry about getting the water hot again.

The shower head heaters are normally installed with breakers. Most people put them behind the wall or close to the power source. That's why you don't notice it while in the shower. The best play is to get the water going and flip the heater on before you get in the shower. You can also ask the girl to get it going.

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1848211]I am always afraid I am going to get electrocuted from shoddy electrical work and hanging wires with unprotected circuits!

I have never seen a GFCI receptacle or breaker used! Is a GFCI even part of the electrical building code?[/QUOTE]

This makes more sense. The situation is the same at Aiffe. All the rooms except one have hot water.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1848027]For the record not all the rooms in Energy have only cold water. Some, probably most, have hot as well. There was one room in particular where on one day I got only cold water and on another day I got hot water.[/QUOTE]

Day1.

Back in MDE from Cali and decided to hit up chic as punto com.

I didn't see anything I liked so wingman decided to take a stunner.

I didn't realize this before but they actually have a third level to that place. When I didn't find a girl on the main floor he showed me a few up top. It didn't help I ended up going without. It was a mad house in there. Almost as much guys as girls. Apparently the 15th is payday in Medellin (maybe even Colombia) so that the absolute worst time to get action.

I ended up skipping this day.

Day 2.

Spent the whole day in centro. Starting to think I should just stay in centro my next trip down.

Hit up up at Zandaly (Carrera 47 #57 A-34, piso 2) This place is by far the cheapest casas I've been to this trip. While waiting for the wingman to finish up I basically just took whichever girl was taking with me the most. I think you can sometimes tell how a girl will be if you interact with her a bit first. Had a decent time again then went people watching around centro till the night. Once it got dark hit up Maracaibo and saw a girl who was exactly my type and took her quickly. She did her job but nothing more. Exchanged numbers with me but said she will only work in the club. Shame I would love to bag her in my room. We went next door to ejective and just had a beer and looked around. I think I have seen the most muscular girl I've ever seen there. If I saw her in the street I would swear she was a ladyboy. Anyhow we decided to head back to Laurels. Hit up *Abydos (33 # 64-198) but wasn't feeling this place. The women were older and had a lot of work done. Also the mamas an was too structured. She went down the price list and actually told us how many nuts we to with xyz time. IE.

If you pay for 1/2 hour you get one nut and a had job or pay for an hour you get 2 positions 3 uts. Blah blah.

Again not my thing. We politely said fuck this place and went to energy were I had the freedom to nut as many times as I want in my little 30 minutes.

Wingman tells me he isn't having as much fun as I am. Blames it on his zero Spanish skills and age (almost 60). Said he had the most fun and GFE with the escort in Cali (see Cali forum for that story and report). Sz he is still what sapping her and wonder if he should offer to pay her to hang with him a few days. I advise against it and just tell him to find a girl here in Medellin. He says ask her how much she would want to fly up, here we go.

She tells him to pay for her ticket and give her 300 USD (yes USD) and she will hang with him for 2 days. He replies with 250 and she agrees. He buys the ticket and she arrives day after tomorrow.

Day 3.

Fucked around all day then hit up energy again since its close by. Again another decent session at this place.

There was a game that night so went for a drink by th stadium. Some girl working there heard English and started to flirt with me. Said she wanted to hang out and "funky fucky" she had a friend for my wingman too. Well after the game let out it got swamped and she couldn't leave work. However her friend got another girl and we hung out with them. 1st non pros of the trip.

No screwing that night but I have her whatsapp so I'm still working on it for a return trip. Wish me luck.

Day 4.

Wingmans golden ball and chain arrive So I am flying solo. He likes to and is taking her so I guess that's the only silver lining. She will make sure he does not pay gringo prices.

I'm flying solo for the next few days so decide to hit up centro. While people watching I get a card for Yakusa (Carrera 50 A # 53-38) these girls are young. Kinda like chic as pinto girls. As a matter of fact they advertise 18-25 as well.

When I walk in I see a couple of cops there. I force my brain to remember this isn't the USA and everything is cool. They even shake my had as they walk out. Ended up with a tiny young thing. No complaints with this place.

Day 5.

Wingman is still with the diamond studded ball and chain. Ate breakfast with them as the 3rd wheel then hauled ass to centro. Ended up meeting a non pro street vendor and hit it off. We went touring around on her scooter. She is married so I am still not sure where that's headed. Hit up a few board members and made plans to hang with DC fan later. Cool as fuck.

DC showed me a couple new laid back spots (RTFF he already posted the info). They are both close to that new strip joint Jenni's. We hung out with a few chicas then closed out night out after a good time.

I went back to Laureles which is starting to feel like a prison.

Day 6.

Last day in Medellin.

Wingman finally ditched his prepago. She was on her way back to Cali.

I went and showed him all the fun he missed while stuck with her. Went all over centro people watching hitting casas and going all out on the last day. At night hit up Mayorista but the didn't have any really good sessions. Had one SW who rushed me only to have her friend knock on the door then walk in before we were done. I was then pressured for a 3 some.

I had enough of that shit and left. There is ad advantage to casa girls. They would never pull that shit.

Ended up going out my last night with the girl I was with on my first night at Apoteosis Club). She wasn't that good.

But at least I know what I'm getting.

No sleep this night. Burned the candles at both ends till it was time to hit the airport.

Also hit the ATM and maxed out the cash I could withdraw. At nearly 3500 to 1 USD I couldn't help it.

I hope the peso doesn't fall but who knows.

Thats it for my trip.

Hope to return sooner than later.

[QUOTE=Cursnoop;1843913]I got one advice do not go to a foreign country looking for trouble because you will find it.[/QUOTE]Absolutely true and worth reiterating again and again. Try all your trouble seeking in your own country, where you have some idea of how LE works. Outside, it's a very different world. Do read up about scams that LEs hatch with criminals to trap tourists, you will be amazed at the level of brainstorming that goes into these things!!

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1848211]I am always afraid I am going to get electrocuted from shoddy electrical work and hanging wires with unprotected circuits!

I have never seen a GFCI receptacle or breaker used! Is a GFCI even part of the electrical building code?[/QUOTE]GFCIM is more common than GFCI.

GFCIM starts with GFE, which leads to BBJ and ends in CIM. The abbreviated abbreviation for this is GFCIM.

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;1848471] Hit up *Abydos (33 # 64-198) but wasn't feeling this place. The women were older and had a lot of work done. Also the mamas an was too structured. She went down the price list and actually told us how many nuts we to with xyz time. IE.

If you pay for 1/2 hour you get one nut and a had job or pay for an hour you get 2 positions 3 uts. Blah blah.

Again not my thing. We politely said fuck this place and went to energy were I had the freedom to nut as many times as I want in my little 30 minutes.

[/QUOTE]I guess you did not see Pamela at Abydos. She told me she's 20 and looks it. Nice face and great body. Not tall though probably 5' 4". I had a great time with her. I rarely repeat with a chica but I did with her. She really banged up my nuts in doggy.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;1844465]Unfortunately my buddy isn't that flexible with time off from work, so changing flights isn't going to be possible. Any other suggestions? I've heard some conflicting reports. Some people say places are still open just not as many. Another person I asked said places only close down on actual easter and even then, only some of the places.[/QUOTE]Given you circumstances I'd recommend staying with Jake, just get him to confirm he can hook you both up during that time.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1848027]For the record not all the rooms in Energy have only cold water. Some, probably most, have hot as well. There was one room in particular where on one day I got only cold water and on another day I got hot water.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information. I guess I must have bad luck! I've been there 5 times now and haven't ever had hot water in the shower.

[QUOTE=Narai;1848723]GFCIM is more common than GFCI.

GFCIM starts with GFE, which leads to BBJ and ends in CIM. The abbreviated abbreviation for this is GFCIM.[/QUOTE]No, he did not mean GFCIM. He meant a GFCI device which prevents people from getting electric shock. But your post made my day!

[QUOTE=Lion55;1849221]Thanks for the information. I guess I must have bad luck! I've been there 5 times now and haven't ever had hot water in the shower.[/QUOTE]I've been there numerous times. I'm trying to session all the chicas. Yesterday my chica entered the shower first and had hot water, by the time I entered hot water was gone. They need to fix that. I've gotten cold water less than 50% of the time though. I went with Veronica yesterday, a little overweight but got the job done.

In Medellin for about a week now, full report on the way in a couple days.

I've hit multiple venues, from high end to low.

Just thought I'd make a quick comment about Energy, since its being discussed.

Went by there the other day and was sorely disappointed with the line-up, especially for the price.

Many chicas presented, but I didn't like even one, like I said, especially for their approx triple price over centro casas.

If you like bigger boned girls, you may like Energy, and who knows, maybe they'll add some flaquitas to the lineup.

I used to hit Energy, years ago, when the lineup was excellent and only 60 KP, oh well, things change.

The centro casas aren't exactly crawling with beauties either, however, you can find some gems with leg work.

Met some cool gringos on this trip, and some strange dudes as well.

More detailed report on the way.

Though Medellin will always be special, I'd choose Brazil as numero uno, IMHO.

[QUOTE=Balboa;1849287]In Medellin for about a week now, full report on the way in a couple days.

I've hit multiple venues, from high end to low.

Just thought I'd make a quick comment about Energy, since its being discussed.

Went by there the other day and was sorely disappointed with the line-up, especially for the price.

Many chicas presented, but I didn't like even one, like I said, especially for their approx triple price over centro casas.

If you like bigger boned girls, you may like Energy, and who knows, maybe they'll add some flaquitas to the lineup.

I used to hit Energy, years ago, when the lineup was excellent and only 60 KP, oh well, things change.

The centro casas aren't exactly crawling with beauties either, however, you can find some gems with leg work.

Met some cool gringos on this trip, and some strange dudes as well.

More detailed report on the way.

Though Medellin will always be special, I'd choose Brazil as numero uno, IMHO.[/QUOTE]Yeah, Energy definitely isn't the talent level it was 2 or 3 years ago. On average the talent is slightly better than the Centro Casas (though the rooms are much nicer). And they have a lot of girls so one is bound to appeal to you. In Centro, you frequently have to walk around a lot to find something good.

I'm with you on Brasil. Though I go to MDE much more these days, my best mongering experiences are almost all from Rio and Sao Paulo. But MDE is closer, cheaper, and they speak Spanish, so it's just so much more practical.

She may not have been there. We did arrive a little late in the evening.

I wish they had a few more 20 somethings and a lot less structure.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1848730]I guess you did not see Pamela at Abydos. She told me she's 20 and looks it. Nice face and great body. Not tall though probably 5' 4". I had a great time with her. I rarely repeat with a chica but I did with her. She really banged up my nuts in doggy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Balboa;1849287]In Medellin for about a week now, full report on the way in a couple days.

I've hit multiple venues, from high end to low.

Just thought I'd make a quick comment about Energy, since its being discussed.

Went by there the other day and was sorely disappointed with the line-up, especially for the price.

Many chicas presented, but I didn't like even one, like I said, especially for their approx triple price over centro casas.

If you like bigger boned girls, you may like Energy, and who knows, maybe they'll add some flaquitas to the lineup..[/QUOTE]Hmmm each time I went I found a nice variety IMO.

I like the skinny petite chickens myself and Energy didn't disappoint.

I hear ya on the comparison to cento casas though. The only advantage they have is nicer rooms. Its more expensive so they at least need to have a nicer selection as well.

Centro casas have a few things going for them. Cheaper, wider variety of girls in the casa, even more choices with other casas walking distance away.

[QUOTE] Met some cool gringos on this trip, and some strange dudes as well.[/QUOTE]Haha this should be an entertaining report.

[QUOTE=Combo;1849352]Yeah, Energy definitely isn't the talent level it was 2 or 3 years ago. On average the talent is slightly better than the Centro Casas (though the rooms are much nicer). And they have a lot of girls so one is bound to appeal to you. In Centro, you frequently have to walk around a lot to find something good.

I'm with you on Brasil. Though I go to MDE much more these days, my best mongering experiences are almost all from Rio and Sao Paulo. But MDE is closer, cheaper, and they speak Spanish, so it's just so much more practical.[/QUOTE]I know this isn't the Brazil forum but would either of you fellas care to share with a Brazil virgin what you like about it over MDE?

The cost+distance+Portuguese+popularity always made me shy away from going and choose other Monger spots.

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;1849377]

I know this isn't the Brazil forum but would either of you fellas care to share with a Brazil virgin what you like about it over MDE?

The cost+distance+Portuguese+popularity always made me shy away from going and choose other Monger spots.[/QUOTE]My best experiences have been in Brazil. My last visit was in 2007 and stopped going because of the unfavorable exchange rate. Its better now so will return after the Olympics. Brazil is the best mongering spot because of the horny chicas. Its the only mongering destination where the chicas get angry at you if you come too soon. That was my experience.

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;1849377]Hmmm each time I went I found a nice variety IMO.

I like the skinny petite chickens myself and Energy didn't disappoint.

I hear ya on the comparison to cento casas though. The only advantage they have is nicer rooms. Its more expensive so they at least need to have a nicer selection as well.

Centro casas have a few things going for them. Cheaper, wider variety of girls in the casa, even more choices with other casas walking distance away.

Haha this should be an entertaining report.

I know this isn't the Brazil forum but would either of you fellas care to share with a Brazil virgin what you like about it over MDE?

The cost+distance+Portuguese+popularity always made me shy away from going and choose other Monger spots.[/QUOTE]I like the higher end casas like Energy, Thai Spa etc. Even though their chicas may be only slightly more doable than the Centro casas because of the better facilities. Its a more enjoyable experience banging in greater comfort.

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;1849377]
I know this isn't the Brazil forum but would either of you fellas care to share with a Brazil virgin what you like about it over MDE?[/QUOTE]In Brazil, I have INCREDIBLE sex with P4 P girls I just met.

It's the kind of great sex that I thought before is only possible with a girlfriend in love, but in Rio I can have sex that is as good (and sometimes better!) with girls I just met.

They're also not fussy about BBBJ, CIM, Anal, multiple pops, licking your ass, COF, etc etc. A total GFE / PSE almost every time.

Every chica I've sessioned here so far loves hip hop. I'm not a fan myself but I'm guessing that every working girl in town will be at the Snoop Dogg concert at the Plaza de Toros La Macarena on Friday, that's why I'm going to be lurking there then; see what I can pick up, for free, if possible, with my limited Espanol, LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1849752]Every chica I've sessioned here so far loves hip hop. I'm not a fan myself but I'm guessing that every working girl in town will be at the Snoop Dogg concert at the Plaza de Toros La Macarena on Friday, that's why I'm going to be lurking there then; see what I can pick up, for free, if possible, with my limited Espanol, LOL.[/QUOTE]Not only working girls, but also hot non-pros will be there too. Turgid you smart enough to realize and understand young chicks like to dance to hip-hop. Latin hip-hop is the fastest growing music genre right now. I tell people all the time one of the easiest ways to meet a non-pro is to be able to dance. Hip-hop is what is popping in the clubs right now and whether you like it or not that is what young chicks like to dance too. I never understood why people would take a salsa class, but not a hip-hop class when that is the fastest growing music genre right now. Young women like to dance to hip-hop and if you want to meet them learn how to dance. Nothing rocket scientist about an easy way to meet hot chicks. Report coming soon and if you know me it will not be about the casa experience better experts on this forum than me with that information. I like to get out to the clubs.

Hey guys,

I've been living in Bogota for the last couple of years, now living here in Medellin. I would like to get to know some of these places. You guys seem to know a shit ton and I barely just found this forum. Anyways, let me know and invite me to your next shindigs where there are some hot paisas. I also speak Spanish almost fluidly.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1849612]My best experiences have been in Brazil. My last visit was in 2007 and stopped going because of the unfavorable exchange rate. Its better now so will return after the Olympics. Brazil is the best mongering spot because of the horny chicas. Its the only mongering destination where the chicas get angry at you if you come too soon. That was my experience.[/QUOTE]I been to Costa and Sosua and Santo Domingo a few times, and debating between Medellin and Rio in June, this thread is way easier to obtain info than the Rio thread can one of the vets give me a quick outline to Rio to help me ultimately make my decision.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1849612]My best experiences have been in Brazil. My last visit was in 2007 and stopped going because of the unfavorable exchange rate. Its better now so will return after the Olympics. Brazil is the best mongering spot because of the horny chicas. Its the only mongering destination where the chicas get angry at you if you come too soon. That was my experience.[/QUOTE]Dude!! I was around the same time as you. Too bad help closed, that place was like fantasy come to reality. I still kick myself because the VERY FIRST girl to talk with me were 2 girls for a trizzy that were smoking hot and wanted todo la noche for 400 reals. I just never took the first thing I saw but that is the only thing I regret.

Its like in Colombia the girls are more maintated and prettier in the face but the brazillians are more raunchy and vulgar. Your right they get downright MAD if you don't last and go alll night ajaajaja.

[QUOTE=Lion55;1849221]Thanks for the information. I guess I must have bad luck! I've been there 5 times now and haven't ever had hot water in the shower.[/QUOTE]If you go later in the evening it is cold. Try going like Tuesday at noon. Its perfect. It's less busy and they won't put you in one of those shitty basement rooms.

Newbie to Medellin. Landed around 10:30 pm. Got to Hotel Nutibara around 11:30. Headed straight for Fase Dos. Paid entrance fee. Scouted the girls for a good 30 minutes. About 30-40 girls there I think. Approached by a few including girls who did strip show asking for propina. I was expecting more talent. Not too many stunners there in my opinion but Colombians have top notch faces. I like body meaning ass and tits with more emphasis on ass LOL. Right before I was about to leave this really beautifully sculpted 20 year old start dancing in front of me with two other girls. She said do I want to fucky fucky. I said if I can add your body to my picture collection then we have deal. She agreed. Her name was Christina from Cali. We fucked for good 40 minutes next door. It was humid there so we were both drenched in sweat. Felt like a workout. Took shower she lathered me up which was cool. Good session not great. Pussy was OK. She is more a visual then physical. The jeans she had on with that tiny waist made me think she had big ass. If was OK and muscular she worked out. She asked to come to my hotel but I wasn't interested. She asked me to come back and see her before I leave. Not happening. Cost:$180 k + 20 k entrance fee.

It's about 2 am now. I'm dead tired been up since 4 am for work and jumped straight on plane after work. I went to Barra Ejecutiva. Uber driver had to stop in front of another place because construction being done on street. He was trying to get me into his spot but I wanted to go to Barra based off reports on ISG. Finally arrived. Talent level dropped but that was expected. I was looking for a big ass. But not many at this time of night. One finally came over to me. Face not great but had ass I was looking for. She propositioned me $70 k. I told her I want her culo. She said she doesn't do that. I told her if you want me to come with you then that's the only way. She agreed. Very nice girl very accommodating. We go wash up. Then start fucking no BBBJ from either so I jumped straight to fucking. She tried to put in here ass with much pain and struggle. I told her Dame chocha and her pussy was great. I forgot about the ass. Busted my last energy nut. Took some pics because again that was part of the deal. Cost me $70 k and her pussy was so much better then much more beautiful girl. First impressions. Medellin is grimey and gritty. There seems to be walkers at every corner in centro. A lot of homeless. Pros seem nice and accommodating. Price is right so far. Will hit up more casas tomorrow after I get good exchange rate on my dollars. Tries uploading pics from phone but said files too large.

[QUOTE=FunkyPrimate;1850099]Hey guys,

I've been living in Bogota for the last couple of years, now living here in Medellin. I would like to get to know some of these places. You guys seem to know a shit ton and I barely just found this forum. Anyways, let me know and invite me to your next shindigs where there are some hot paisas. I also speak Spanish almost fluidly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunkyPrimate;1850099]Hey guys,

I've been living in Bogota for the last couple of years, now living here in Medellin. I would like to get to know some of these places. You guys seem to know a shit ton and I barely just found this forum. Anyways, let me know and invite me to your next shindigs where there are some hot paisas. I also speak Spanish almost fluidly.[/QUOTE]Advice costs nothing are maybe seldom worth anything, anyway, I give a spontaneuous Pirate's ones;.

Colombiancupid & Latinamericancupid get a Gold memership; both serious and prepagos will attack you, if you are. Normal. Many 21 ypo-old look for sugardaddies to pay for their University.

Facebook; get in contact with Lonnie Davis, he can / is ROMANCELATINA and knows a lot of Pimping girls. That loose org. Have parties with awesome babes, according to my friend Karen. Maybe awesome since they show up dressed for success or XXX. Karen said you can choose a girl for a night, or go to another room to discuss a more long-term relationship.

Low IQ is a Huge problem due to mal nutrition, as in Per. Many girl simply can't understand more than sex = $ = shopping. So don't except a girl to have a "Plan". Those with a brain escape to BGT or Europe, stupid one's look up there likewise stupid relatives in Miami, where they influx constantly press down wages to minimum levels, just as predicted by economist 150 years ago. Smarties try Switerland.

HAHA. Sad bad true. Their boyfriends are in jail or will be.

OK, enough of sarcasms.

Medellin, "paisas", are very very friendly people. Always helpful. They make you relax and soon you will feel that all that BGT stress is gone. Getting that kick in a city of the size of MDE must be unique, except Rio. Few times arrogant and annoying, they simply haven't integrated into to global society yet and if spoken to in English by a man from another Continent; you get a picture of what Colombus, Pizarro and Cortz once met; reverse logical behavior mixed with Wichcraft. That's how you defeat 90 million people with 900 men!

And it's still the same! I'm a Pirate, living under lo law, but with a price on my Head, but until decaptivated I will have some fun!

You can get quality and not overpay; look up some good sites it takes 5 minutes on Google and thells you what all people will tell you anyway, so just be rational! Be Babes have their own apartments in Laureles and Poblado (they think Poblado is The Place for the Successfull People, but it's simply Heavily Overpriced and far away from everything). Price is 120-150 + 30-50 for "oral natural, for 1 hs + 15 min added for showering. Poblado is where many extranjeros goes, but since you are fluent in Spanish you will only through your hard earned money away. But it sometimes fun to chat with other expats. Hmmm.

La 70, an Avenue, with a 1 km with bars and restarants, hotels, discos, and the streets around; there you can attack. Just go up to a girl and ask if she wants to have a nice time. Partying, sex; that part might comes another day, if she are "prendida" and a little more, she just wants you to help to pay the taxi home, but the very next day, she might call and be ready for lunch and sex. Viagra is sold almost for free, Cialis is still under monopoly. Viagra, even if not needed, it prevents the ejaculation, which prepagos wants to have ASASP, the 11 minutes that Paulo Cuelho writes about! Use the Blue pill and get full value of your money / hour.

Here are a list on the medelin-forum, Medelllin-List, with maps etc. Many places are casas with ugly girls. The valuable info. Is where to find good Motels. There are also a site called [URL]www.latineuro.com[/URL] Buy 100 contacts, that will be enouh oth for MDE & BGT for a while, the older contacts there are really not active.

Ask any girl who you think are awesome, sexy, if she wants to hang out; go to a motel, or for a more serious date etc; that is allowed to do that, paisa-men are themselves Pigs, but lacks our money; if they had them, they would party 24/7.

That's what many Girls do; 15 (fake 18), 18 and up to 29 (32-33, but clocks seems stuck at 29 for at least 4 years) do, carelessly, they have nothing, and they have opportunity of nothing- so don't remind them. And ask for Cedula, ID if you bring her to your apt. Or hotel.

If I don't get laid, by a HOT normal girl or a even HOTTER prepago, when feeling for it, I get really mad! Coming from Sexprison, where nothing never happens, and Bogot, being sort of Colombias most worthless place in terms of having fun, climate, transportation time etc; You expect VICTORY, always!

Attack, just ask the local guys.

A budgetplace in the Center, in Boston, called, "New Life"; go there 9 am-2 pm; price is low and you can make a real good deal. Then ask that girl out. Or 2-3 of them.

Actually New Life is hard to beat. Rio de Janeiro once had HELP. Prices wasn't economical, but you got help, literarly!

Prostitution among good looking girls are so common that you rise your standards; a good looking girl would do, but you always wants a better.

I would choose to stay at an apartment in Laureles; Poblado is for non-Speaking-overpaying Tourists that have heard of paradise medellin, and then come down here and, to some extent, destroys for us that certainly not wants to pay 200 mil for a Facebook analfabet 18 (15-17) girl, who also steals what ever she can, and most of the time are high on what ever they can find. Get rid of such girls is so embarrassing in front of the vecinos in the building, though I managed to aviod it, it could have been a disaster.

Kickboxer, a guy that lives and works here in MDE, fluent in both English and Spanish; try to find him, or get advice from him; there are many discos, clubs, where the quality is Top-Notch; but those girls are not prepagos; they are of course happy for $$ but in a more subtle way.

Mangos is a club with awesome dancers.

Karen will show you around, she knows everything; she can also be your girl at swinger-clubs; if you go Wednesday it's economical and full of babes! She went with a German guy and he paid her 200 mil. She is liberal and just loves to fuck, both sexes. She is about to be married to and Espaol ugly guy, for the money, but surely she have friends that are like her.

I must say; Bodytech, the gym. Go there at 5-7 am and see all those 3/4 nude perfect babes working out. That parts that was not perfect, they have made perfect. I concluded, visually, having seen that, you don't need to go to a club that day. I was the only gringo there, so I kept a low profile. Bodytech is a chain, they have 5 gym's in MDE and in Lima, BGT etc. Paisas are really working out, I'm very impressed by their dedication. Of course surgery, anabolics do it's part, but they work-out hard. And in dresses that provoke you work out even harder yourself.

Ask taxidrivers, ask girls, the hot one's, just being polite. Many guys here on the forum and real life wants to get rid of competition or misdirect you, just for the fun of it!

Taxidrivers, tip him well, and for us gringos that is a small amount.

I claim that, maybe because of much shorter distance, and obvious choise of way to travel, paisas taxidrivers are somewhat honest, while in Bogot, they gladly took you for an 1/2 hs extratrip, on a ride that was the in bogot disturbing 1 hs, while reaching a target in MDE, normally is no more than 20 minutes away.

If you find a nice girl, take her to Santa Fe de Antioqia for a few days.

Happy Hunting, take good care of credicards, codes etc, 99% are potential thiefs among these girls.

A security meausre can be to create a hotmail account and there save the CCV codes, while erasing them on the actual card. It they drug you, they can not use it for shopping on internet. Got that advice from the bank, so it's no Pirate bullshit-talk.

[QUOTE=Sargent50;1850184]I been to Costa and Sosua and Santo Domingo a few times, and debating between Medellin and Rio in June, this thread is way easier to obtain info than the Rio thread can one of the vets give me a quick outline to Rio to help me ultimately make my decision.[/QUOTE]Women. I prefer Brazilian women but this is a subjective topic and the decision lies in the eye of the beholder.

Service of women.Rio hands down.

Cost.. My calculations tell me Medellin is cheaper even with the now low Brazilian Real, also cheaper airfare.

City.. Rio, lovely beach with many bikini clad women, much more to do, better ambiance.

If money is not an issue my choice would certainly be Rio especially if I've never been there before.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1850366]Women. I prefer Brazilian women but this is a subjective topic and the decision lies in the eye of the beholder.

Service of women.Rio hands down.

Cost.. My calculations tell me Medellin is cheaper even with the now low Brazilian Real, also cheaper airfare.

City.. Rio, lovely beach with many bikini clad women, much more to do, better ambiance.

If money is not an issue my choice would certainly be Rio especially if I've never been there before.[/QUOTE]I myself have never been to Rio but word on the street is it can't be beat!

Looks like you all area really making the case for Brazil. I have heard quite a few fellas say the same thing about the girls being hot and horny.

I know Turgid you touched on this but what about the cost?

When I RTFF around 2010 over in the Brazil threads I gathered one wouldn't get a girl for under about 70 USD.

Again I know this is a while ago so don't know if its changed.

But considering I can dive into a centro casa girl for as little as $12 USD it makes me wonder.

Oh and the $150 visa fee doesn't help. Argentina can't bite that $150 bullet too.

Eventually I will have to make my way to both.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1849612]My best experiences have been in Brazil. My last visit was in 2007 and stopped going because of the unfavorable exchange rate. Its better now so will return after the Olympics. Brazil is the best mongering spot because of the horny chicas. Its the only mongering destination where the chicas get angry at you if you come too soon. That was my experience.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sympalogy;1849678]In Brazil, I have INCREDIBLE sex with P4 P girls I just met.

It's the kind of great sex that I thought before is only possible with a girlfriend in love, but in Rio I can have sex that is as good (and sometimes better!) with girls I just met.

They're also not fussy about BBBJ, CIM, Anal, multiple pops, licking your ass, COF, etc etc. A total GFE / PSE almost every time.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Turgid;1850366]Women. I prefer Brazilian women but this is a subjective topic and the decision lies in the eye of the beholder.

Service of women.Rio hands down.

Cost.. My calculations tell me Medellin is cheaper even with the now low Brazilian Real, also cheaper airfare.

City.. Rio, lovely beach with many bikini clad women, much more to do, better ambiance.

If money is not an issue my choice would certainly be Rio especially if I've never been there before.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;1850417]Looks like you all area really making the case for Brazil.

When I RTFF around 2010 over in the Brazil threads I gathered one wouldn't get a girl for under about 70 USD.

But considering I can dive into a centro casa girl for as little as $12 USD it makes me wonder.

Oh and the $150 visa fee doesn't help. Argentina can't bite that $150 bullet too.[/QUOTE]You can't say that a woman can not be had for less than $70. As is anywhere else that would depend on from which venue you get the woman.

Rio has centro casas as well. They used to be 1 real/minute. At today's rate that woulde be $8.35 for 30 minutes. I think the prices have gone up these days though, so you are looking at maybe the same $12 as Medellin.

I think the visa price is $160 for US citizens. It is waived it you are going during the Olympics. If you would let $160 stand between you and paradise...

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1850415]I myself have never been to Rio but word on the street is it can't be beat![/QUOTE]I've been many times, for years, to both countries.

Hard to beat the beauty of a Paisa from Medellin or even the beautiful costeña from Barranquilla.

Brazil, however, is a whole different flavor.

Just back from a week in Medellin (yes, report coming), off now to Rio, and looking forward to seeing my favorite Brasileira in the morning!

I love and enjoy both countries. I'd certainly choose Brazil as my favorite, not only Rio, but São Paulo as well, SP being a melting pot of the whole country, equals variety.

Only negative of Brazil is the more than double the flight time, making Colombia much more convenient for quick trips.

Can't lose either way!

Enjoy.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1850440]You can't say that a woman can not be had for less than $70. As is anywhere else that would depend on from which venue you get the woman.

Rio has centro casas as well. They used to be 1 real/minute. At today's rate that woulde be $8.35 for 30 minutes. I think the prices have gone up these days though, so you are looking at maybe the same $12 as Medellin.

I think the visa price is $160 for US citizens. It is waived it you are going during the Olympics. If you would let $160 stand between you and paradise...[/QUOTE]Ay Aye Capin'.

Makes sense.

And Brazil is a hell of a lot closer than Asia; the other popular destination.

Although I really fucking love Asia.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1850352]Advice costs nothing are maybe seldom worth anything, anyway, I give a spontaneuous Pirate's ones;.

Colombiancupid & Latinamericancupid get a Gold memership; both serious and prepagos will attack you, if you are. Normal. Many 21 ypo-old look for sugardaddies to pay for their University.[/QUOTE]Dude,

That whole post is like the funniest thing I read all week.

Today I hit up the centro casas. Here is my report:

New Life.

Went around 11 am. Decent line up around 10-15 girls. Young and older. Skinny to curvy. I sessioned with Luisa. She is 35 from Medellin. Really curvy nice ass and tits. Ass real titties fake. At first mechanical. Then she warmed up. 30 minute session. 45 k.

Chicas con Punto.

About 15 girl line up. A little more diverse as far as skin complexion at this location. Blancas, morenas and pretas. Ii chose Sara. Big natural ass. Small titties. Cute smile. Energetic. 30 minute session for 30 k. Enjoyed that big ass.

Lunch break rest period LOL. Got back on the horse at around 3-330 pm.

Paris Club.

6-7 girl line up. Small to medium ass. Blanca's and pretas. Small tits on all of them. Did not session no big asses. Mamason was baffled when I didn't choose a girl tried to convince me go stay LOL. Quote 30 k for 30 minutes. I usually don't ask for longer session unless it's out of this world.

Zandalays.

5 girls. Chose Nicole. Blanca with medium sized enhanced tits and a huge bolt on. She had a ***** face at first thought session would be bad. But she had best pussy of trip. Very tight. She told me she nervous because she thought my dick was too big. But we made it work. Great session. 35 k for 30 minutes.

Kamasutra.

Only two girls there. None appealed to me. Small native looking girls at that location. 30 k for 30 minutes.

Amiga Sexy.

One of the nicer facilities among centro casa. Most diverse line up with 20 girls or more. Some lookers here young and old. Small to medium sized ass and titties. No grande culos. No session for me. Paid 2 k for presentation. Quoted 30 k for 30 minutes.

Dulce Compania.

Not open at around 4-5 pm. Rung doorbell twice.

Paisa Relax.

6 girls there. Most pretas. Some were tall and skinny. Small tits on all. Faces were so so. No grande culos. Quoted 50 k for 30 minutes. No session. 2 k for presentation.

Aiffe.

Accidentally walked into wrong entrance. I think it was a gay casa LOL all dudes taking showers LOL. Bartender told me to go next door. So when looking for this spot don't go up the stairs. 3 Blanca's presented. One tall and skinny. No ass or tits. One gorda. No ass or tits. And one average sized one. Quoted 32 k for 30 minutes.

Coffee shop.

8-9 girls. Diverse line up. A few pretty faces. Small to medium size tits and asses. Some young some older looking. Did not session. Mamason was younger girl who told me I could fuck her if I wanted LOL. She thought I was too picky. LOL. I told her sorry. 2 k for presentation. 32 k for 30 minutes.

I walked to all those casa from my hotel. Tired at this point it's around six grabbed something to eat and took a nap until midnight.

Barra Ejecutiva.

Many more locals then last night. More guys then girls. Quickly grab big butt chica. 80 k for 30 minutes. Really good pussy. I forget her name I heard so many at this point. She wanted to come to the hotel with me kept calling me beautiful.

Maracaibo.

Maybe 20 girls there less guys. Strip show being performed. Nothing appealing there. Never asked for prices I just left.

Conejitas.

Maybe 10-15 girls. Nothing appealing. There was one but she was talking to a guy I had no patience to wait.

Careers 53.

Streetwalker scene. Again nothing appealing to me. Seemed like 100 girls there all different varieties. Did a quick drive by in cab. No sessions. Did not scout for prices.

San Diego.

Strip club / bar. About 25 girls. I would say the girls were ok nothing spectacular. Entrance fee was 10 k. Did not ask about session.

The Girls Club (La Isla).

30-40 girls. A good amount of pretty faces and silicon bodies. It reminded me more of an American club. Felt like the tourist spot. That turned me off stayed for about 20 minutes to scope the scenery. Similar in talent to Fase Dos. Maybe a little better depending on taste. One girl told me it's 180 k for 40 minute session plus have to pay for room. I didn't ask how much the room was. No session.

Dropped off at hotel walk about 2 minutes back to Barra Ejecutiva to see if anything new was there. My luck another new big booty chica. Session 70 k. Headed back to hotel.

Added pics from day 1 and 2.

Started day of with tour bus around Medellin. Started around 9 am. After that I headed to energy.

Energy.

20+ girls. They come present themselves in blue jackets with bikinis underneath. The jackets have numbers on them. They state their name, turn around say mucho gusto and permiso. Side note: a lot of the girls had some trouble putting the jackets back on. It made me giggle a few times. The lineup was Blanca's and morenas. Different body types. From tall and skinny to short and curvy. They looked like they ranged from 18-30. I chose #9 Laura. 19 year old from Medellin no kids, tall, native complexion, small be cups, medium bubble butt, pretty Pocahontas face. She's very energetic. Gave me horrible massage LOL but I didn't come for that. Did a little dance show for me. She was about to give me head with the condom but I stopped her. Pointless with condom. The session was OK nothing spectacular. She was fun with a lot of energy and over the top acting LOL. Pussy was just OK. Cost:140 k for an hour.

Blue room.

4 girls presented. All Blancas. Presented themselves in black jackets one by one then all at once for recap. Best looking was Valentina (the 100th one I met here LOL). They also had super thick tall Blanca. I like curves and thickness in certain areas but she was too thick for me and looked older. I didn't session. Had to sit and listen to gay guy try to convince me to stay. Wanted 20 k for presentation. Gave him 2 us dollars and went on way. Quoted 110 k for an hour.

Saritas.

6 girls presented. Blancas to morenas. Two were young the others looked older. Maybe 1-2 doables nothing spectacular. No grande culos here. Didn't session quoted 35 k for 30 minutes.

Tried to find Yakusa but couldn't find it. Walked back to hotel through Carrera 53. Walkers everywhere but not that impressive. I accidentally ran into one of them and notice here bluish green eyes. She started to smile. I asked her name and age. Paula, 24 with huge butt small waist small tits. She told me her ass is natural. I said yeah right. I asked her how much for 30 minutes she said 30 k. I had to see if her ass was real. Sure enough it was real so nice with a surprisingly tight pussy. Really good session. Had to pay 22 k for room.

While I was laying pipe got a WhatsApp message from girl I met of Latinacupid. She wanted to meet up for dinner. I had 4 others who flaked but this was the one I wanted. I confirmed told her to pick spot and time. I went to hotel and took a nap for a few hours.

Woke up. Got read for dare. Met here on avenida San Juan. Had a good convo (my Spanish is elementary) had a good meal. 23 year old alleged nursing student. Lives with family no kids. Smoking body. Grande culo of course the way I like it LOL. Ask her to come back to hotel with me, she agreed. I wasn't sure if hotel nutibara would allow here up but I had no problem. Got here to the room. A little shyness and quietness ensued. Gave a few kiss and she warmed up and we were off to the races. First non pro in Medellin. Score. Well, I think she is anyway. She is right next to me right now so we will see in the morning if she ask for money.

All in all. Great sport fucking trip. The women are beautiful. Have something for everyone looks and price wise. I really appreciate the hygiene of Paisas. From the streetwalker to the high end pros, great hygiene. Very friendly. I have mongered in Europe, Brazil, Dominican Republic, Peru, Panama, Costa Rica, Argentina, Morocco, Turkey, Thailand, Cambodia, Malaysia, Singapore, Japan, Indonesia, Mexico and other parts of Colombia (Bogota, Cartagena). Medellin is like a huge working girl house. Really easy to fuck here. Never felt in dangerous even when walking through centro at night (caution: I grew up in dangerous environments and I am very aware of surroundings). Great trip. Will be back soon. I also want to thank everyone who contributed to helping me find all these places. See Jake, Quagmire, Mr International, World Travel 69 to name a few. Much appreciated.

Oye Global, it sounds and looks like you had a great run. Thanks for the good report.

I had a great trip! Already planning the next one. Thanks for all the info.

[QUOTE=Dellorto;1851033]Oye Global, it sounds and looks like you had a great run. Thanks for the good report.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Global00;1850969]Started day of with tour bus around Medellin. Started around 9 am. After that I headed to energy.Energy.20+ girls. They come present themselves in blue jackets with bikinis underneath. The jackets have numbers on them. They state their name, turn around say mucho gusto and permiso. Side note: a lot of the girls had some trouble putting the jackets back on. It made me giggle a few times. The lineup was Blanca's and morenas. Different body types. From tall and skinny to short and curvy. They looked like they ranged from 18-30. I chose #9 Laura. 19 year old from Medellin no kids, tall, native complexion, small be cups, medium bubble butt, pretty Pocahontas face. She's very energetic. Gave me horrible massage LOL but I didn't come for that. Did a little dance show for me. She was about to give me head with the condom but I stopped her. Pointless with condom. The session was OK nothing spectacular. She was fun with a lot of energy and over the top acting LOL. Pussy was just OK. Cost:140 k for an hour..........
While I was laying pipe got a WhatsApp message from girl I met of Latinacupid. She wanted to meet up for dinner. I had 4 others who flaked but this was the one I wanted. I confirmed told her to pick spot and time. I went to hotel and took a nap for a few hours.......
Woke up. Got read for dare. Met here on avenida San Juan. Had a good convo (my Spanish is elementary) had a good meal. 23 year old alleged nursing student. Lives with family no kids. Smoking body. Grande culo of course the way I like it LOL. Ask her to come back to hotel with me, she agreed. I wasn't sure if hotel nutibara would allow here up but I had no problem. Got here to the room. A little shyness and quietness ensued. Gave a few kiss and she warmed up and we were off to the races. First non pro in Medellin. Score. Well, I think she is anyway. She is right next to me right now so we will see in the morning if she ask for money.
[/QUOTE]20+chicas at Energy, man I should have gone that day. By the description you sessioned with a chica whose name I got as Lauda. You had a much better time with her than I did. You probably got her on one of her good days; she was not energetic with me at all. Please give the Latinacupid chica dinero even if she does not ask for it. She will greatly appreciate it.

Haha! Lauda not Laura. I heard so many names I got them mixed up LOL. She had a lot Energy. She even did a strip tease on video for me (for Propina of course LOL). She was more visually pleasing then physically. Pussy was just OK. And I was surprised the LatinaCupid girl didn't ask for money! But I did give her some for taxi and a little extra. I try to be a nice guy most of the time. LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1851174]20+chicas at Energy, man I should have gone that day. By the description you sessioned with a chica whose name I got as Lauda. You had a much better time with her than I did. You probably got her on one of her good days; she was not energetic with me at all. Please give the Latinacupid chica dinero even if she does not ask for it. She will greatly appreciate it.[/QUOTE]

She was offered to me but via another girl and doesn't want to share the info without me fucking her first. I rather bang the girl in there pic. If anyone knows her PM me.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;1846127]I was eating at Archies last night. There was a table of ten and it did not appear like any of the women were with the men as couples so it looked like a work group. All the woman were stacked, well-dressed and real lookers. My imagination is that to be a secretary in Medellin you have to be a stone fox. I have not see anything of that quality at any place I have been to so far. The deal of the century is that you can get a cappuccino with a shot of Bailey's Irish Creme for 9500 pesos in this town. Now that is cheap.[/QUOTE]Prepagos of highest class always have a solid cover up. They make their money in more sublime ways, they have contacts, get expensive presents from admirers.

So, more style, but they can't simply afford 1/3 of what they spend.

Stone Fox secretaries seems though a new way into the hedonistic world.

If they they have novios, husbands, you might be trespassing into dangerous peoples private spheres.

I assume some of them are willing to have a relationship with a well-off gringo, and if she got style, you can have a novia with style, that doesn't charge in $. That is a stress relieving. Then you are excepted to invite her to events, trips etc. Maybe, just maybe, she got a sick mother at the hospital.

I like the new approach.

The most expensive girl I had, a 400 mil from a de luxe agency, just to have done it, she was 20 yo, a +9-10, body smoothly refined, superclass on the surgical work. She was 20 yo and worked at Exito in the daytime and lived in Poblado with her mum.

Last week I visited Loutron. The previous time I had gone there I think was in 2010 at the previous location. At that time I sessioned with one of the top ten hottest working girls I have ever sessioned with. During that same visit to Medellin I also sessioned with another top ten at New Life. The new Loutron is not very easy to locate and if your taxi driver has not been there before it will be difficult to find. It is very remote, the driveway is very long; from my recollection Calle 16 A Sur is actually the driveway.

The casa itself is huge, a mansion, quite a nice setup. I was escorted to the bar / cafe area where I took a seat. A lineup of 11 chicas was presented to me. It was actually the hottest lineup I have seen so far in my two months here; however, not by much. 1 hour = 260 K COP, 1/2 hour = 230 K COP, quite expensive by Colombian standards. I chose one hour with whom I thought was the hottest in the lineup, the hottest I've been with so far this trip.

Off to the very large room. After the ducha together she offered a massage but I declined telling her 'despues' = after, which I always say when offered a massage. She told me she was a law student which was credible. She had an incredible body and nice sexy face. I really enjoyed my time with her exploring all positions. She was not the best in the sack but I really liked her body. I took her number. She said 1 hour at my hotel will be 300 K COP, ouch. 2 hours = 500 k COP. Even at that price I may very well invite her over during this coming weekend which is expected to be very slow. On prior occasions I got two other numbers, one from Abydos at 200 k COP per hour and another from New Life.

Another good result from my visit to Loutron was that after my session I requested the management to call me a cab. The driver who arrived was a very cool English speaking dude who I have decided to hire to take me around.

Now that's some serious bootties!

[QUOTE=Global00;1850585]Today I hit up the centro casas. Here is my report:

New Life.

Went around 11 am. Decent line up around 10-15 girls. Young and older. Skinny to curvy. I sessioned with Luisa. She is 35 from Medellin. Really curvy nice ass and tits. Ass real titties fake. At first mechanical. Then she warmed up. 30 minute session. 45 k.

Chicas con Punto.

About 15 girl line up. A little more diverse as far as skin complexion at this location. Blancas, morenas and pretas. Ii chose Sara. Big natural ass. Small titties. Cute smile. Energetic. 30 minute session for 30 k. Enjoyed that big ass.

Lunch break rest period LOL. Got back on the horse at around 3-330 pm.

Paris Club.

6-7 girl line up. Small to medium ass. Blanca's and pretas. Small tits on all of them. Did not session no big asses. Mamason was baffled when I didn't choose a girl tried to convince me go stay LOL. Quote 30 k for 30 minutes. I usually don't ask for longer session unless it's out of this world.

Zandalays.

5 girls. Chose Nicole. Blanca with medium sized enhanced tits and a huge bolt on. She had a ***** face at first thought session would be bad. But she had best pussy of trip. Very tight. She told me she nervous because she thought my dick was too big. But we made it work. Great session. 35 k for 30 minutes.

Kamasutra.

Only two girls there. None appealed to me. Small native looking girls at that location. 30 k for 30 minutes.

Amiga Sexy.

One of the nicer facilities among centro casa. Most diverse line up with 20 girls or more. Some lookers here young and old. Small to medium sized ass and titties. No grande culos. No session for me. Paid 2 k for presentation. Quoted 30 k for 30 minutes.

Dulce Compania.

Not open at around 4-5 pm. Rung doorbell twice.

Paisa Relax.

6 girls there. Most pretas. Some were tall and skinny. Small tits on all. Faces were so so. No grande culos. Quoted 50 k for 30 minutes. No session. 2 k for presentation.

Aiffe.

Accidentally walked into wrong entrance. I think it was a gay casa LOL all dudes taking showers LOL. Bartender told me to go next door. So when looking for this spot don't go up the stairs. 3 Blanca's presented. One tall and skinny. No ass or tits. One gorda. No ass or tits. And one average sized one. Quoted 32 k for 30 minutes.

Coffee shop.

8-9 girls. Diverse line up. A few pretty faces. Small to medium size tits and asses. Some young some older looking. Did not session. Mamason was younger girl who told me I could fuck her if I wanted LOL. She thought I was too picky. LOL. I told her sorry. 2 k for presentation. 32 k for 30 minutes.

I walked to all those casa from my hotel. Tired at this point it's around six grabbed something to eat and took a nap until midnight.

Barra Ejecutiva.

Many more locals then last night. More guys then girls. Quickly grab big butt chica. 80 k for 30 minutes. Really good pussy. I forget her name I heard so many at this point. She wanted to come to the hotel with me kept calling me beautiful.

Maracaibo.

Maybe 20 girls there less guys. Strip show being performed. Nothing appealing there. Never asked for prices I just left.

Conejitas.

Maybe 10-15 girls. Nothing appealing. There was one but she was talking to a guy I had no patience to wait.

Careers 53.

Streetwalker scene. Again nothing appealing to me. Seemed like 100 girls there all different varieties. Did a quick drive by in cab. No sessions. Did not scout for prices.

San Diego.

Strip club / bar. About 25 girls. I would say the girls were ok nothing spectacular. Entrance fee was 10 k. Did not ask about session.

The Girls Club (La Isla).

30-40 girls. A good amount of pretty faces and silicon bodies. It reminded me more of an American club. Felt like the tourist spot. That turned me off stayed for about 20 minutes to scope the scenery. Similar in talent to Fase Dos. Maybe a little better depending on taste. One girl told me it's 180 k for 40 minute session plus have to pay for room. I didn't ask how much the room was. No session.

Dropped off at hotel walk about 2 minutes back to Barra Ejecutiva to see if anything new was there. My luck another new big booty chica. Session 70 k. Headed back to hotel.

Added pics from day 1 and 2.[/QUOTE].

We had a blast! Lets do it again in the fall.

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;1848471]Day1.

Back in MDE from Cali and decided to hit up chic as punto com.

I didn't see anything I liked so wingman decided to take a stunner.

I didn't realize this before but they actually have a third level to that place. When I didn't find a girl on the main floor he showed me a few up top. It didn't help I ended up going without. It was a mad house in there. Almost as much guys as girls. Apparently the 15th is payday in Medellin (maybe even Colombia) so that the absolute worst time to get action.

I ended up skipping this day.

Day 2.

Spent the whole day in centro. Starting to think I should just stay in centro my next trip down.

Hit up up at Zandaly (Carrera 47 #57 A-34, piso 2) This place is by far the cheapest casas I've been to this trip. While waiting for the wingman to finish up I basically just took whichever girl was taking with me the most. I think you can sometimes tell how a girl will be if you interact with her a bit first. Had a decent time again then went people watching around centro till the night. Once it got dark hit up Maracaibo and saw a girl who was exactly my type and took her quickly. She did her job but nothing more. Exchanged numbers with me but said she will only work in the club. Shame I would love to bag her in my room. We went next door to ejective and just had a beer and looked around. I think I have seen the most muscular girl I've ever seen there. If I saw her in the street I would swear she was a ladyboy. Anyhow we decided to head back to Laurels. Hit up *Abydos (33 # 64-198) but wasn't feeling this place. The women were older and had a lot of work done. Also the mamas an was too structured. She went down the price list and actually told us how many nuts we to with xyz time. IE.

If you pay for 1/2 hour you get one nut and a had job or pay for an hour you get 2 positions 3 uts. Blah blah.

Again not my thing. We politely said fuck this place and went to energy were I had the freedom to nut as many times as I want in my little 30 minutes.

Wingman tells me he isn't having as much fun as I am. Blames it on his zero Spanish skills and age (almost 60). Said he had the most fun and GFE with the escort in Cali (see Cali forum for that story and report). Sz he is still what sapping her and wonder if he should offer to pay her to hang with him a few days. I advise against it and just tell him to find a girl here in Medellin. He says ask her how much she would want to fly up, here we go.

She tells him to pay for her ticket and give her 300 USD (yes USD) and she will hang with him for 2 days. He replies with 250 and she agrees. He buys the ticket and she arrives day after tomorrow.

Day 3.

Fucked around all day then hit up energy again since its close by. Again another decent session at this place.

There was a game that night so went for a drink by th stadium. Some girl working there heard English and started to flirt with me. Said she wanted to hang out and "funky fucky" she had a friend for my wingman too. Well after the game let out it got swamped and she couldn't leave work. However her friend got another girl and we hung out with them. 1st non pros of the trip.

No screwing that night but I have her whatsapp so I'm still working on it for a return trip. Wish me luck.

Day 4.

Wingmans golden ball and chain arrive So I am flying solo. He likes to and is taking her so I guess that's the only silver lining. She will make sure he does not pay gringo prices.

I'm flying solo for the next few days so decide to hit up centro. While people watching I get a card for Yakusa (Carrera 50 A # 53-38) these girls are young. Kinda like chic as pinto girls. As a matter of fact they advertise 18-25 as well.

When I walk in I see a couple of cops there. I force my brain to remember this isn't the USA and everything is cool. They even shake my had as they walk out. Ended up with a tiny young thing. No complaints with this place.

Day 5.

Wingman is still with the diamond studded ball and chain. Ate breakfast with them as the 3rd wheel then hauled ass to centro. Ended up meeting a non pro street vendor and hit it off. We went touring around on her scooter. She is married so I am still not sure where that's headed. Hit up a few board members and made plans to hang with DC fan later. Cool as fuck.

DC showed me a couple new laid back spots (RTFF he already posted the info). They are both close to that new strip joint Jenni's. We hung out with a few chicas then closed out night out after a good time.

I went back to Laureles which is starting to feel like a prison.

Day 6.

Last day in Medellin.

Wingman finally ditched his prepago. She was on her way back to Cali.

I went and showed him all the fun he missed while stuck with her. Went all over centro people watching hitting casas and going all out on the last day. At night hit up Mayorista but the didn't have any really good sessions. Had one SW who rushed me only to have her friend knock on the door then walk in before we were done. I was then pressured for a 3 some.

I had enough of that shit and left. There is ad advantage to casa girls. They would never pull that shit.

Ended up going out my last night with the girl I was with on my first night at Apoteosis Club). She wasn't that good.

But at least I know what I'm getting.

No sleep this night. Burned the candles at both ends till it was time to hit the airport.

Also hit the ATM and maxed out the cash I could withdraw. At nearly 3500 to 1 USD I couldn't help it.

I hope the peso doesn't fall but who knows.

Thats it for my trip.

Hope to return sooner than later.[/QUOTE]

Brazil has more stunners, 9/10's type girls who are easy to meet.

Sao Paulo. Has places like Cafe Foto, Bomboa and others where you will find gorgeous women, Google cafephoto.

Medellin- place like Mansion will not have the same type of gorgeous 9/10's you would see in Brazil.

You will see gorgeous women in Medellin at a place like Envy, top floor of Charlee Hotel in LLeras.

Obviously, Medellin has stunners but if you only go there for a short trip, they are harder to meet.

Per previous posts, if you are CASA person, then medellin has plenty of those and probably cheaper than Brazil.

For accommodations, I suggest Airbnb, most apartments will give you NO problems with guests coming in and out.

A nice furnished one bedroom with kitchen and washer and dryer can be $35-$50 a night in El Poblado, LLeras or nearby. Usually the Airbnb listings with the most reviews are a.

Good choice for gringos.

Girls in Medellin are cheaper but if right now the Dollar is worth a lot of Reals (Brazil currency) I would then look for flights to Brazil. Sao Paulo is great, I am guessing RIO even.

Better.

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;1848471]Day 2.

Spent the whole day in centro. Starting to think I should just stay in centro my next trip down.[/QUOTE]Do we have a convert? Dcfan must have been a bad influence on you. For me downtown can't be beat. I spend all my time there anyway and $8/ day for my hotel. It is a no brainer for me.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1851682]Brazil has more stunners, 9/10's type girls who are easy to meet.

Sao Paulo. Has places like Cafe Foto, Bomboa and others where you will find gorgeous women, Google cafephoto.

Medellin- place like Mansion will not have the same type of gorgeous 9/10's you would see in Brazil.

You will see gorgeous women in Medellin at a place like Envy, top floor of Charlee Hotel in LLeras.

Obviously, Medellin has stunners but if you only go there for a short trip, they are harder to meet.

Per previous posts, if you are CASA person, then medellin has plenty of those and probably cheaper than Brazil.

For accommodations, I suggest Airbnb, most apartments will give you NO problems with guests coming in and out.

A nice furnished one bedroom with kitchen and washer and dryer can be $35-$50 a night in El Poblado, LLeras or nearby. Usually the Airbnb listings with the most reviews are a.

Good choice for gringos.

Girls in Medellin are cheaper but if right now the Dollar is worth a lot of Reals (Brazil currency) I would then look for flights to Brazil. Sao Paulo is great, I am guessing RIO even.

Better.[/QUOTE]As far as looks of the women: Sao Paulo>Medellin>Rio.

Beauty of the City: Rio>Medellin>Sao Paulo.

Freakiness of women: Rio=Sao Paulo>Medellin.

All IMO of course.

[QUOTE=Combo;1851723]As far as looks of the women: Sao Paulo>Medellin>Rio.

Beauty of the City: Rio>Medellin>Sao Paulo.

Freakiness of women: Rio=Sao Paulo>Medellin.

All IMO of course.[/QUOTE]I think Paisa got Brazillians beat in terms of looks but Brazillians edge out in performance.

Paisa are known Drama queens so you know what you sign up for. Brazillians are just vulgar haha.

The truth is, these are hair difference in the whole scope of things. It's like the argument of which Supercar is better. Guess what, they are all fucking fast and eye catching!!

Go out and LIVE!

[QUOTE=BlueChange;1851810]I think Paisa got Brazillians beat in terms of looks but Brazillians edge out in performance.

Paisa are known Drama queens so you know what you sign up for. Brazillians are just vulgar haha.

The truth is, these are hair difference in the whole scope of things. It's like the argument of which Supercar is better. Guess what, they are all fucking fast and eye catching!!

Go out and LIVE![/QUOTE]Ever been to Sao Paulo? More and better-looking women than any other City in the World IMO. I do agree that MDE edges Rio in terms of looks, but Sao Paulo beats either of them. Walk into Cafe Foto or Bomboa in SP. Nothing in MDE even comes close for numbers and quality. There are about 20 Million people in SP, so I guess you have large numbers to draw from.

Certainly, Brasil and Colombia are the two best hobbying countries in the Western Hemisphere.

[QUOTE=Combo;1852087]Ever been to Sao Paulo? More and better-looking women than any other City in the World IMO. I do agree that MDE edges Rio in terms of looks, but Sao Paulo beats either of them. Walk into Cafe Foto or Bomboa in SP. Nothing in MDE even comes close for numbers and quality. There are about 20 Million people in SP, so I guess you have large numbers to draw from.

Certainly, Brasil and Colombia are the two best hobbying countries in the Western Hemisphere.[/QUOTE]Yeah but the Brazillian girls have that overbite and sometimes that sort of Horse face thing. Obviously the population is larger BUT if we looked per capita I think in terms of density Medellin wins. Also at least in Medellin I can actually get around with traffic. With Sao Palo traffic its faster to walk.

Having read submissions on the comparison between Brazilian and Colombian women I feel compelled to add my voice as I am an incorrigible girl watcher. I have admired thousands of women in both countries and I am absolutely convinced that Brazilian women are hotter than Colombian women. When I used to visit Brazil I was forced on many occasions to pull out my camera and snap many a babe. I rarely do so in Colombia. By the way I have never been accosted for doing so. I do it as discretely as possible. The country that beats both Brazil and Colombia, in my books, is Argentina. However, I don't think it can be emphasized enough, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1849617]I like the higher end casas like Energy, Thai Spa etc. Even though their chicas may be only slightly more doable than the Centro casas because of the better facilities. Its a more enjoyable experience banging in greater comfort.[/QUOTE]Its also about the price point your able to afford. On my tours we go to the lower priced casas all the way up to the higher priced casas so you get to see the whole package. We leave generally at 11 am almost everyday and finish around 4 pm.

Thanks,

Colombia Jake.

The beautiful models, stunners, can be found and can be taken back to your hotel in places like Cafe Foto, Bomboa and other places in SAO Paulo Brazil.

Where in Medellin, can you go to find women that are equal to the women you will see in Cafe Foto, Sao Paulo?

Not in Mansion Hotel, not in LLeras park hahah.

There are model gorgeous girls in Medellin than can be had but you have to go thru another person or girl, she can be contacted on facebook or whatsapp.

Other than that, Medellin would be great if they had places like Del Rey Hotel in San Jose or Cafe Foto.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1852799]Having read submissions on the comparison between Brazilian and Colombian women I feel compelled to add my voice as I am an incorrigible girl watcher. I have admired thousands of women in both countries and I am absolutely convinced that Brazilian women are hotter than Colombian women. When I used to visit Brazil I was forced on many occasions to pull out my camera and snap many a babe. I rarely do so in Colombia. By the way I have never been accosted for doing so. I do it as discretely as possible. The country that beats both Brazil and Colombia, in my books, is Argentina. However, I don't think it can be emphasized enough, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1851605]We had a blast! Lets do it again in the fall.[/QUOTE]Man! I am counting down!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1851700]Do we have a convert? Dcfan must have been a bad influence on you. For me downtown can't be beat. I spend all my time there anyway and $8/ day for my hotel. It is a no brainer for me.[/QUOTE]Dcfan, indeed. I am now officially a member of the church of Centro.

Cheaper and just plain less boring. Never a dull moment in El Centro.

[QUOTE=Global00;1850585]Tried to find Yakusa but couldn't find it.......[/QUOTE]Those are some good ASS pics! HAHA.

So Yakusa is on the east (I think) side of the street about half way down the block. The times I went they had a drape covering the front "door".

But hell you found yourself a non pro. To hell with yakusa.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1851531]The driver who arrived was a very cool English speaking dude who I have decided to hire to take me around.[/QUOTE]That's a nice come up. Sometimes shit just works out very well.

[QUOTE=Global00;1851200][B]Haha! Lauda not Laura.[/B] I heard so many names I got them mixed up LOL. She had a lot Energy. She even did a strip tease on video for me (for Propina of course LOL). She was more visually pleasing then physically. Pussy was just OK. And I was surprised the LatinaCupid girl didn't ask for money! But I did give her some for taxi and a little extra. I try to be a nice guy most of the time. LOL.[/QUOTE]HaHa! "Lauda" is how you pronounce the name written as "Laura" when speaking in Spanish.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/luxurygirls.col/[/URL]

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1852820]The beautiful models, stunners, can be found and can be taken back to your hotel in places like Cafe Foto, Bomboa and other places in SAO Paulo Brazil.

Where in Medellin, can you go to find women that are equal to the women you will see in Cafe Foto, Sao Paulo?

Not in Mansion Hotel, not in LLeras park hahah.

There are model gorgeous girls in Medellin than can be had but you have to go thru another person or girl, she can be contacted on facebook or whatsapp.

Other than that, Medellin would be great if they had places like Del Rey Hotel in San Jose or Cafe Foto.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1853312][URL]https://www.instagram.com/luxurygirls.col/[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes, but can you have them? How do you contact to pay for a night or a few hours with one of them?

That's the question. (:

The places in Sao Paulo he was referring to, those girls you can pay for the night. They're P4 P places for high caliber stunners.

Some of those model girls are available, they are pimped out by a pretty girl. PM for details.

[QUOTE=Sympalogy;1853319]Yes, but can you have them? How do you contact to pay for a night or a few hours with one of them?

That's the question. (:

The places in Sao Paulo he was referring to, those girls you can pay for the night. They're P4 P places for high caliber stunners.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;1852799]Having read submissions on the comparison between Brazilian and Colombian women I feel compelled to add my voice as I am an incorrigible girl watcher. I have admired thousands of women in both countries and I am absolutely convinced that Brazilian women are hotter than Colombian women. When I used to visit Brazil I was forced on many occasions to pull out my camera and snap many a babe. I rarely do so in Colombia. By the way I have never been accosted for doing so. I do it as discretely as possible. The country that beats both Brazil and Colombia, in my books, is Argentina. However, I don't think it can be emphasized enough, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.[/QUOTE]Portenas are generally both boring and in comparison, I did not want to say it, but they are really UGLY. Arrogant and ugly, go to the northwest in Argentina and you are in Latin America. Buenos Aires. I lived there for a year, my first one in LA, so I didn't understand better.

A prominent, and more important, open, journalist wrote about it. He was more diplomatic, saying that portenas are conservatives, so they don't have boyfriends, they dedicate themself do studies, gym, the family, friends; and "noches manuales".

An american I met at UPB in Medellin said the same thing, rumors says one thing, they are completely false. Hookering are strictly for underclass ugly girls, older, or from the poor provinces. At Energy on Cra 74, two of the hottest girls lived just some blocks away and one was practically living 100 yards from me on Circular 2. Students. The cultural difference is enormous, as it in beauty!

I had a friend (good looking) down from Copenhagen. He became irritated over the zero contact Argentine girls shows, even if they are medium looking, they doesn't even try to get a decent looking extranjero boyfriend, he stayed in Brazil, Florianopolis on his way back home a few days, to avoid
d waiting at the airport for like 30-40 hs After having visited BS As, Mendoza, Iguazu. I felt very guilty, not that is was the coldest July in 50 years 2006 didn't help. But BS As can't compete at all with Rio, nor NW Argentina. Nor Medellin, which in reminds me a lot of Bogota, or Lima. He enjoyed that little time in Brazil, and I agree, it's like Heaven or Hell.

At HELP 2006 , when my girl was at the restroom for 5 minutes; 5 girls approached me, 3 of them where incredibly beautiful.

I should have learned Portuguese and went to this vast country, there are 10's if not hundreds of places along the coast from Florianopolis to Guayana in the north. And Minas Gerias, but they say all the hotties leaves for the big cities ASAP.

Argentina and Chile and Uruguay people are right; they are well organized, they had built up a modern infrastructure and welfare-system before WW I. They are Europeans, not Indians nor Africans.

So feeling superior comes naturally, maybe they accept, in private, that garotas or paisas are more beautiful, but never in public.

Man. Are you blinde, BS As comes even lower, both socially, that in it self being an extreme, Northern Europeans but hey are very pretty!. You get depressed in Bs As!

A friend, a former professor at the UPB, his son is in Palermo BS As, a place full of creativity. But even a serious person like him could help himself from comment " in Buenos Aires, the girl have long faces as horses".

Never go here. I rather go to prison! (if I can study portugese with a brazilian teacher).

I have met some 10's in Medellin. Some have been prepagos, others not!

This new list is impressive, the risk is that the prices also are.

Remember; These girls have nothing, and they opportunity of nothing!

Negotiate with that in your mind.

Look also at this; "Unemployment Rate in Colombia increased to 11.90 percent in January from 8. 60 percent in December of 2015. ".

The currency has fallen 1/3.

Brazil also have hard times. Their system of defending an artificial currency might have come to an end! Just Like Argentina had its 1:1, when it fell everything was for free during 2-3 yers. Especially I think 2003 was a fantastic year. Venezuela, if you now how to do it, has a parallel currency that in one year has fallen from 10% to 1% of the official rate. These economies are built on, just like China, exportation of products with low added value in combination with a strong fiscal and monetary policy. But when demands falls, even fails, diminish, devaluation, depriation is the only way out. Argentina quickly got back to a sort of crisis, but fake exhange made it difficult for our kind.

I hope for a Brazilian normalization , which would mean that Happy Days comes back - OverNight! And that maduros loco projects is over-run my democrats and that a new floating currency and calm down the whole society and we can be customers at ease. The whole continent would be ReConquista, but not in 700 years, but in 7 days!

I spent a couple of weeks in Medellin and I wasn't impressed with the quality of the girls at the casas, yet I saw gorgeous girls in the city, on the metro, out and about.

Is Facebook a better option to find beautiful girls? I did see a few beauties in Fase dos and La isla. I'm a face person, so no mater how perfect their body is, if the face is not gorgeous, it's a no go for me.

Where are the 10's?

I'm going back again soon. PM me if you want to share any FB contacts of gorgeous girls in Medellin.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1853488]Portenas are generally both boring and in comparison, I did not want to say it, but they are really UGLY. Arrogant and ugly, go to the northwest in Argentina and you are in Latin America. Buenos Aires. I lived there for a year, my first one in LA, so I didn't understand better.

A prominent, and more important, open, journalist wrote about it. He was more diplomatic, saying that portenas are conservatives, so they don't have boyfriends, they dedicate themself do studies, gym, the family, friends; and "noches manuales".

An american I met at UPB in Medellin said the same thing, rumors says one thing, they are completely false. Hookering are strictly for underclass ugly girls, older, or from the poor provinces. At Energy on Cra 74, two of the hottest girls lived just some blocks away and one was practically living 100 yards from me on Circular 2. Students. The cultural difference is enormous, as it in beauty!

I had a friend (good looking) down from Copenhagen. He became irritated over the zero contact Argentine girls shows, even if they are medium looking, they doesn't even try to get a decent looking extranjero boyfriend, he stayed in Brazil, Florianopolis on his way back home a few days, to avoid
d waiting at the airport for like 30-40 hs After having visited BS As, Mendoza, Iguazu. I felt very guilty, not that is was the coldest July in 50 years 2006 didn't help. But BS As can't compete at all with Rio, nor NW Argentina. Nor Medellin, which in reminds me a lot of Bogota, or Lima. He enjoyed that little time in Brazil, and I agree, it's like Heaven or Hell.

At HELP 2006 , when my girl was at the restroom for 5 minutes; 5 girls approached me, 3 of them where incredibly beautiful.

I should have learned Portuguese and went to this vast country, there are 10's if not hundreds of places along the coast from Florianopolis to Guayana in the north. And Minas Gerias, but they say all the hotties leaves for the big cities ASAP.

Argentina and Chile and Uruguay people are right; they are well organized, they had built up a modern infrastructure and welfare-system before WW I. They are Europeans, not Indians nor Africans.

So feeling superior comes naturally, maybe they accept, in private, that garotas or paisas are more beautiful, but never in public.

Man. Are you blinde, BS As comes even lower, both socially, that in it self being an extreme, Northern Europeans but hey are very pretty!. You get depressed in Bs As!

A friend, a former professor at the UPB, his son is in Palermo BS As, a place full of creativity. But even a serious person like him could help himself from comment " in Buenos Aires, the girl have long faces as horses".

Never go here. I rather go to prison! (if I can study portugese with a brazilian teacher).

I have met some 10's in Medellin. Some have been prepagos, others not!

This new list is impressive, the risk is that the prices also are.

Remember; These girls have nothing, and they opportunity of nothing!

Negotiate with that in your mind.

Look also at this; "Unemployment Rate in Colombia increased to 11.90 percent in January from 8. 60 percent in December of 2015. ".

The currency has fallen 1/3.

Brazil also have hard times. Their system of defending an artificial currency might have come to an end! Just Like Argentina had its 1:1, when it fell everything was for free during 2-3 yers. Especially I think 2003 was a fantastic year. Venezuela, if you now how to do it, has a parallel currency that in one year has fallen from 10% to 1% of the official rate. These economies are built on, just like China, exportation of products with low added value in combination with a strong fiscal and monetary policy. But when demands falls, even fails, diminish, devaluation, depriation is the only way out. Argentina quickly got back to a sort of crisis, but fake exhange made it difficult for our kind.

I hope for a Brazilian normalization , which would mean that Happy Days comes back - OverNight! And that maduros loco projects is over-run my democrats and that a new floating currency and calm down the whole society and we can be customers at ease. The whole continent would be ReConquista, but not in 700 years, but in 7 days![/QUOTE]Quite a mouthful but I will leave politics and economics to the expert. However, I consider myself a subjective expert in the mujeres department. I suspect you had bad experiences in Argentina. I, on the other hand, had excellent. Unlike yourself I find Argentinian women to be among the friendliest I have ever met. Just as in Colombia and Brazil, only my poor Spanish prevents me from seriously hooking up with a hot, young babe. Although beauty is in the eye of the beholder I cannot understand how anyone could not appreciate the absolute good looks of the Argentinian woman. I regard Argentinian women as the most beautiful in this hemisphere. Others may not but I am also absolutely mesmerized by Chinese women and also Italian and Ukrainian women. I consider these four to be the most beautiful on the planet.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1853312][URL]https://www.instagram.com/luxurygirls.col/[/URL][/QUOTE]The bundas on these women are beat by Brazilian booties. However, they are giving Dominicans a good run for their money.

[QUOTE=SailorJim;1853300]HaHa! "Lauda" is how you pronounce the name written as "Laura" when speaking in Spanish.[/QUOTE]I did not know that! No wonder no Paisa ever gave me her name as Laura.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/lina.herrera.palacio/?hl=en[/URL]

Manages a spa en Bello.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/Lina.herrera.Palacio?fref=ts[/URL]

Cra 58 bb and 26 -21.

Bello, Antioquia.

4633796 3176590099.

*Lot top girls lives in Bello, has anyone ventured out there?

[QUOTE=Turgid;1853601]The bundas on these women are beat by Brazilian booties. However, they are giving Dominicans a good run for their money.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1853312][URL]https://www.instagram.com/luxurygirls.col/[/URL][/QUOTE]Hey guys!

I have been reading for quite some time, but this is the first time I post.

This is another quite good instagram account, focused on paisas. I guess there are a few available girls here too.

Enjoy!

[URL]http://instagram.com/bellaspaisas[/URL]

[QUOTE=NewGuy3;1853567]I spent a couple of weeks in Medellin and I wasn't impressed with the quality of the girls at the casas, yet I saw gorgeous girls in the city, on the metro, out and about.

Is Facebook a better option to find beautiful girls? I did see a few beauties in Fase dos and La isla. I'm a face person, so no mater how perfect their body is, if the face is not gorgeous, it's a no go for me.

Where are the 10's?

I'm going back again soon. PM me if you want to share any FB contacts of gorgeous girls in Medellin.

Thanks![/QUOTE]One of the questions I'm asked the most is "Which casa is the best"? And there's not a two month span where I could say the answer was the same both months. Talent shifts more than any industry out there. This month's all star line up could be next months fat farm, you just never know. The casa scene in Medellin is by far its best value. But you'll see a few rocks between the nuggets.

This and the other instagram account seem to be dedicated to silicone implants.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1853685][URL]https://www.instagram.com/lina.herrera.palacio/?hl=en[/URL]

Manages a spa en Bello.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/Lina.herrera.Palacio?fref=ts[/URL]

Cra 58 bb and 26 -21.

Bello, Antioquia.

4633796 3176590099.

*Lot top girls lives in Bello, has anyone ventured out there?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1853685][URL]https://www.instagram.com/lina.herrera.palacio/?hl=en[/URL]

Manages a spa en Bello.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/Lina.herrera.Palacio?fref=ts[/URL]

Cra 58 bb and 26 -21.

Bello, Antioquia.

4633796 3176590099.

*Lot top girls lives in Bello, has anyone ventured out there?[/QUOTE]

Many girls just say Bello, since it s rather far away, so that, in collaboration with the taxidriver, they can charge you very much for the ride to your place.

Many girls at Energy, etc. Often answer "Bello". Its easy to say, big and anonymous.

I got a advice from a monger-paisa that go to Bello myself, to the plaza. Many young semis hang around there. Easy to pick up for chit-cat or even further or have a meal and then to a nearby motel. The new malls can also be a good place to make contact.

Olga Lucia, a very nice girl, 27 yo.

She said that she and her friends went to Oviedo Mall to make contact with gringos.

She meant it was the best place among malls to find a date.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1853599]Quite a mouthful but I will leave politics and economics to the expert. However, I consider myself a subjective expert in the mujeres department. I suspect you had bad experiences in Argentina. I, on the other hand, had excellent. Unlike yourself I find Argentinian women to be among the friendliest I have ever met. Just as in Colombia and Brazil, only my poor Spanish prevents me from seriously hooking up with a hot, young babe. Although beauty is in the eye of the beholder I cannot understand how anyone could not appreciate the absolute good looks of the Argentinian woman. I regard Argentinian women as the most beautiful in this hemisphere. Others may not but I am also absolutely mesmerized by Chinese women and also Italian and Ukrainian women. I consider these four to be the most beautiful on the planet.[/QUOTE]Is it really true about Kiev (and other cities in the Ukraine) that around the next street corner you meet another tall (blonde), well-dressed beauty.

That was a discussion about it on a Latin american board. Those men having visited Ukraine, are amazed by this type of beauty, by especially stating the high percentage of girls of "high quality".

I discussed it with a friend that has have both seen the serious girls daytime and the escorts. He confirmed that they are very beautiful, " a new beauty around next street corner level", and their special feature is their long well shaped legs, which they expose in tight elegant dresses and high heels, which they walk in with style, not like in other places where the girls really can't walk in high-heels, since they only use them max. 3-4 times a months. In Ukraine they dress elegantly often, even if being poor.

I have been on a Cupid-site just for 3 weeks. And there comes letters added with several fotos of very beautiful Ukraine ladies. They are translated in an agency often. They are very serious.

Natasha, and Victoria, I wrote back that I have like 10 times during 17 years short periods interested me in Ukraine / Russia and quickly gotten out of those fraud sites.

This time I will give it a little more time since it's an Cupid-site and I only pay for my membership.

The girls are 25-32.

They are very formal, the opposite of Latin girls!

The climate and the gray the whole place are so many months a year.

When I came to Medellin the first time, I had met Alejandra from Cupid. We had dinner at Al Rojo in Parque Lleras. 25C/77F, all cool. It was practically no effort at all to get a date with an educated very pretty girl at a nice place.

In Russia/Ukraine it seems so complicated. Always cool, freezing, boring. And fishy, fraud when it comes to females.

It`s a short trip for me, like 2,5-3-5hs, like the US guys have from southern US.

Still I have never went to Kiev, Minsk, St. Petersburg or Moscow, not even in the summer.

The whole atmosphere seduces me in Medellin. I can sit down on my balcony on Circular2, 8th floor. Just spontaneously feeling; " I`m in Medellin, I`m in Medellin" Doubt that ever will happen in a Slavic Country.

Thinking about giving it a try.

Private apartment, studio on Airbnb is anywhere from $30-$60 for a nice one bedroom and some with washer and dryer and fridge. In El Poblado, LLeras.

No hassles with bringing in guest.

What are the pros of hotels. Other then room service and cleaning.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;1854285]Thinking about giving it a try.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1854293]Private apartment, studio on Airbnb is anywhere from $30-$60 for a nice one bedroom and some with washer and dryer and fridge. In El Poblado, LLeras.

No hassles with bringing in guest.

What are the pros of hotels. Other then room service and cleaning.[/QUOTE]Because downtown where the hotels are is where the action is located. And there is also no problem bringing in guests there either. Actually that is why most of them are there; to fuck in. I know a couple of guys who stay in them long term for less than $150/month. True mongers don't have want to waste time or money running back and forth between Poblado and downtown.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1854233]Many girls just say Bello, since it s rather far away, so that, in collaboration with the taxidriver, they can charge you very much for the ride to your place.

Many girls at Energy, etc. Often answer "Bello". Its easy to say, big and anonymous.

I got a advice from a monger-paisa that go to Bello myself, to the plaza. Many young semis hang around there. Easy to pick up for chit-cat or even further or have a meal and then to a nearby motel. The new malls can also be a good place to make contact.[/QUOTE]Yeah one of my Novia's lived in Bello. Truth is MOST of the pros you see at the upscale spots and the indies live in Bello.

Watch your ass at night up there.

Locals don't even like going to Bello.

That said, it's soo fucking cheap and sooooo many girls up there, but to me the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1854233]

I got a advice from a monger-paisa that go to Bello myself, to the plaza. Many young semis hang around there. Easy to pick up for chit-cat or even further or have a meal and then to a nearby motel. The new malls can also be a good place to make contact.[/QUOTE]It is easy to initiate chit-chat with Medellin women but as soon as they realize you don't speak Spanish they lose interest. If they are pros, however, your money will generate the interest.

After having a rest and a shower, we hit to Bamboa first. Damage: 250 reais entrance, all consumable, 25 reais parking, 180 room, and 500 the lady, that all fore one hour. Nice girls but not many, as normally on Saturdays.

THAT was a post on Brazil São Paulo forum. So I think over $260 USF for an hour!

If somehow you can get medellin models for that much for 3 or so hours then looks like better deal. Issue just getting these.

Type of chicks.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1854293]Private apartment, studio on Airbnb is anywhere from $30-$60 for a nice one bedroom and some with washer and dryer and fridge. In El Poblado, LLeras.

No hassles with bringing in guest.

What are the pros of hotels. Other then room service and cleaning.[/QUOTE]Maybe I am wrong app are still risk, you don't know the owner and he might have rules and stuff.

Hotel is hotel, if you stay at upscale hotel you can go to the bar / restaurant to eat / go to pool / nightclub / gym and meet other cool people who are on vacation.

I know that some apartments might have some amenities that I have mentioned.

If we like silicone and booty. Is Cali good place to venture as well? I know booties are big there.

To those who prefer Medellin over Cali, why? Safety reasons? Is pricing same or more or less in Cali.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/yomara.norena[/URL]

WOW in Cali.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1854586]THAT was a post on Brazil So Paulo forum. So I think over $260 USF for an hour!

If somehow you can get medellin models for that much for 3 or so hours then looks like better deal. Issue just getting these.[/QUOTE]But with Brazil girls you get great performance, unlimited anal and BBBJ, which seems to be a problem to find in Colombia.

You're not just paying for the girl, you're paying for the GFE PSE as well.

That's a lot of money for Brazil, It's been 6 years since I left Brazil. I lived there for 5 years and this will be my first time in Medellin. I think I'm going to need a lot of money to purchase silicone and booties.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1854649]If we like silicone and booty. Is Cali good place to venture as well? I know booties are big there.

To those who prefer Medellin over Cali, why? Safety reasons? Is pricing same or more or less in Cali.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/yomara.norena[/URL]

WOW in Cali.[/QUOTE]I've posted this before, but if you like big fake ass and tits, Cali is the place for you. Hard to believe, but it has even more silicone than MDE. Some of the chicas look like cartoon characters!

Cali has a great music / dance scene and it's easier to meet non-pros than in MDE if that's your thing.

However, MDE is a prettier and more pleasant city.

Combo. Unable to PM you. Box if full.

Random Medellin busty hottie. Looks like she would be dancer at FASE.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/shaio.lemoine[/URL]

I'll look into Cali.

[QUOTE=Combo;1854679]I've posted this before, but if you like big fake ass and tits, Cali is the place for you. Hard to believe, but it has even more silicone than MDE. Some of the chicas look like cartoon characters!

Cali has a great music / dance scene and it's easier to meet non-pros than in MDE if that's your thing.

However, MDE is a prettier and more pleasant city.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1854302]Because downtown where the hotels are is where the action is located. And there is also no problem bringing in guests there either. Actually that is why most of them are there; to fuck in. I know a couple of guys who stay in them long term for less than $150/month. True mongers don't have want to waste time or money running back and forth between Poblado and downtown.[/QUOTE]Downtown has the casas and a few lower end strip clubs, and that's pretty much it. Those can be a lot of fun. Medellin has world class restaurants and shopping, none of which are downtown. Some of the non-trash members might want to bring a girl over that doesn't have glue on her breath. Maybe a place that doesn't allow girls in that forgot their cedulas. Then there's the guys who might want to walk out of their hotel and take a walk around without worrying about being stabbed.

Maybe they just don't want to be stuck in the sewer after they've had their fun.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1854520]It is easy to initiate chit-chat with Medellin women but as soon as they realize you don't speak Spanish they lose interest. If they are pros, however, your money will generate the interest.[/QUOTE]My good Spanish of today helps at lot, it's still not perfect, but colloquial. Even that help a lot.

Spanish intensive courses, individual or in a small group, can change the situation for your in weeks.

Work hard on the accent. A peculiar accent is harder to understand than if you use the wrong form of a verb.

English speakers must focus on pronouncing "are". It's the key.

And people like a lot when you use Spanish correctly, it's like they feel you have an interest in Colombia, not just another drunk gringo looking for strip clubs.

LFMFAO Jonesie, you really brought the point home in a colorful way. "Glue on their breath" really made me laugh.

[QUOTE=Jonesie;1854704]Downtown has the casas and a few lower end strip clubs, and that's pretty much it. Those can be a lot of fun. Medellin has world class restaurants and shopping, none of which are downtown. Some of the non-trash members might want to bring a girl over that doesn't have glue on her breath. Maybe a place that doesn't allow girls in that forgot their cedulas. Then there's the guys who might want to walk out of their hotel and take a walk around without worrying about being stabbed.

Maybe they just don't want to be stuck in the sewer after they've had their fun.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jonesie;1854704]Downtown has the casas and a few lower end strip clubs, and that's pretty much it. Those can be a lot of fun. Medellin has world class restaurants and shopping, none of which are downtown. Some of the non-trash members might want to bring a girl over that doesn't have glue on her breath. Maybe a place that doesn't allow girls in that forgot their cedulas. Then there's the guys who might want to walk out of their hotel and take a walk around without worrying about being stabbed.

Maybe they just don't want to be stuck in the sewer after they've had their fun.[/QUOTE]Yeah, Centro is not everyone's cup of tea. For me, it's fun for a day or two, but after that I need nicer surroundings. But if you don't mind hanging in a gritty (and possibly dangerous) area, you can find some real gems for next to nothing.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1854778]My good Spanish of today helps at lot, it's still not perfect, but coloquial. Even that help a lot.

Spanish intensive courses, individual or in a small group, can change the situation for your in weeks.

Work hard on the accent. A peculiar accent is harder to understand than if you use the wrong form of a verb.

English speakers must focus on pronouncing "are". It's the key.

And people like a lot when you use Spanish correctly, it's like they feel you have an interest in Colombia, not just another drunk gringo looking for strip clubs.[/QUOTE]An well-educated Paisa might appreciate you using proper espanol, but the prepagos, taxistas, et al don't give a shit. For the most part, they don't use anything close to correct Spanish.

[QUOTE=Jonesie;1854704]Medellin has world class restaurants and shopping, none of which are downtown. Some of the non-trash members might want to bring a girl over that doesn't have glue on her breath.[/QUOTE]Downtown is not for the faint of heart nor scared of their own shadow type. I don't go to Medellin for the food or to shop. And none of the non-P4P girls that I go out with have a problem with staying downtown. (LOL. After all, aren't 99.99% of the people staying in downtown hotels locals?) As a matter of fact, one of them called to book it for me for my next stay at the end of the week. I am not out to try to impress a chica. They need to be trying to impress me.

[QUOTE=Combo;1855054]An well-educated Paisa might appreciate you using proper espanol, but the prepagos, taxistas, et al don't give a shit. For the most part, they don't use anything close to correct Spanish.[/QUOTE]That holds doubely true for the Dominican Republic. Guys call themselves learning Spanish by repeating what they heard from a Dominican, when most Dominicans don't use anything close to Spanish at all.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1855127]That holds doubely true for the Dominican Republic. Guys call themselves learning Spanish by repeating what they heard from a Dominican, when most Dominicans don't use anything close to Spanish at all.[/QUOTE]DR is similar Espanol as Cuba. I was in Havana last November and a middle-aged Colombian couple was staying in the same casa as me. They told me they were having a hell of a time understanding the Cubanos. Probably the same dynamic as me (from the Midwest US) in Scotland a few years ago having difficulty understanding the locals.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1854778]My good Spanish of today helps at lot, it's still not perfect, but coloquial. Even that help a lot.

Spanish intensive courses, individual or in a small group, can change the situation for your in weeks.

Work hard on the accent. A peculiar accent is harder to understand than if you use the wrong form of a verb.

English speakers must focus on pronouncing "are". It's the key.

And people like a lot when you use Spanish correctly, it's like they feel you have an interest in Colombia, not just another drunk gringo looking for strip clubs.[/QUOTE]I just put Pues in as many times in between words and end it with a Que Chimba or parces or Bacano. Muy Charroooo ajjjajaja.

BTW you know you've been living in Colombia for a long time when auto correct changes your hahahahah to jaajajjajaja.

What's wrong with a drunk gringo looking for a strip club? Guess it's better to be a drunk gringo that's speaks Espanoll? I don't speak espanol to I get drunk, then that's what my English sounds like. I tell the girls when I get to club that I don't speak espanol to I get drunk. .

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1854778]My good Spanish of today helps at lot, it's still not perfect, but coloquial. Even that help a lot.

Spanish intensive courses, individual or in a small group, can change the situation for your in weeks.

Work hard on the accent. A peculiar accent is harder to understand than if you use the wrong form of a verb.

English speakers must focus on pronouncing "are". It's the key.

And people like a lot when you use Spanish correctly, it's like they feel you have an interest in Colombia, not just another drunk gringo looking for strip clubs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Combo;1855138]DR is similar Espanol as Cuba. I was in Havana last November and a middle-aged Colombian couple was staying in the same casa as me. They told me they were having a hell of a time understanding the Cubanos. Probably the same dynamic as me (from the Midwest US) in Scotland a few years ago having difficulty understanding the locals.[/QUOTE]Have no problem communicating with Colombians nor Dominicans 10 years I went there. Be careful with persons that have economic interest in scaring you to stay in overpriced stuck up foreigner ghettos like Poblado!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1855124]Downtown is not for the faint of heart nor scared of their own shadow type. I don't go to Medellin for the food or to shop. And none of the non-P4P girls that I go out with have a problem with staying downtown. (LOL. After all, aren't 99.99% of the people staying in downtown hotels locals?) As a matter of fact, one of them called to book it for me for my next stay at the end of the week. I am not out to try to impress a chica. They need to be trying to impress me.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Jonesie;1854704]Downtown has the casas and a few lower end strip clubs, and that's pretty much it. Those can be a lot of fun. Medellin has world class restaurants and shopping, none of which are downtown. Some of the non-trash members might want to bring a girl over that doesn't have glue on her breath. Maybe a place that doesn't allow girls in that forgot their cedulas. Then there's the guys who might want to walk out of their hotel and take a walk around without worrying about being stabbed.

Maybe they just don't want to be stuck in the sewer after they've had their fun.[/QUOTE]Beware of stuck up people that have economic interest in scaring you to stay in overpriced boring foreigner ghettos!

[QUOTE=FarToMan;1855410]Beware of stuck up people that have economic interest in scaring you to stay in overpriced boring foreigner ghettos![/QUOTE]Try walking around El Centro after hours or on Sunday (when all the businesses are closed). You can feel the eyes on you. You see the freaks and the drug addicts. Its a damn scary place.

[QUOTE=EstebanH;1855712]Try walking around El Centro after hours or on Sunday (when all the businesses are closed). You can feel the eyes on you. You see the freaks and the drug addicts. Its a damn scary place.[/QUOTE]It can be dangerous for sissies correct Estaban. I have never had a problem in centro and I have been there so many times through the years I lost count. Also my friends have never had a problem. Just like anywhere else you know your surroundings, and you do not act stupid. For some this is impossible to do correct Estaban?

Where would one venture out to see Medelllins finest women, non pros.

Envy- rooftop Charlee Hotel.

Any other places?

[QUOTE=OldParr;1855838]It can be dangerous for sissies correct Estaban. I have never had a problem in centro and I have been there so many times through the years I lost count. Also my friends have never had a problem. Just like anywhere else you know your surroundings, and you do not act stupid. For some this is impossible to do correct Estaban?[/QUOTE]Yeah man. You swapped a 3 pt er Larry Bird style! Swish! I've never had a problem even when I'm in the barrio scooping my party favors. Then again the dealers police themselves and want to keep clients coming back.

The point is some dudes just ain't Street smart but they think they are! Here is the time when a dude gets got. Chain with ice charm, Gucci shades, flashy super torn jeans, Sparkly shirt (Guys don't fall for it! Give that Ed Hardy, Affliction to the good will! Truck grill watch on one wrist and a matching bracelet, OG Jordans, $800 SLR camera in one hand, Iphone 15 in the other, wallet on swore. Dude begging to get got!

Be mindful of who you are and how you look to the world you are in.

My stay in Medellin has begun and I will be here several months. Who's here now that wants to meet up? Send me a PM, I would like to make some new forum friends and enjoy the night scene (or day scene).

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1855845]Where would one venture out to see Medelllins finest women, non pros.

Envy- rooftop Charlee Hotel.

Any other places?[/QUOTE]Hit the mall, go to upscale malls riosur / Oviedo, go to soccer games, hit the gym especially the one in Charlee and or Bodytech in Rio Sur, hang around the metro stop in Poblado. But don't forget lower places some of these dimes who don't have a baller stays in lower tier neighborhood example Bello and Rio Negro.

[QUOTE=OldParr;1855838]It can be dangerous for sissies correct Estaban. I have never had a problem in centro and I have been there so many times through the years I lost count. Also my friends have never had a problem. Just like anywhere else you know your surroundings, and you do not act stupid. For some this is impossible to do correct Estaban?[/QUOTE]Its fine during the day. You can keep it at night. Me and the other pussies will have fun with our girls somewhere else.

[QUOTE=OldParr;1855838]It can be dangerous for sissies correct Estaban. I have never had a problem in centro and I have been there so many times through the years I lost count. Also my friends have never had a problem. Just like anywhere else you know your surroundings, and you do not act stupid. For some this is impossible to do correct Estaban?[/QUOTE]It appears to me to be more of a financial resources issue. By all means guys stay in and enjoy El Centro. I like the total hobbying pleasurable experience. For me it means enjoying the facilities at the Four Points by Sheraton in Poblado with easy access to restaurants, supermarkets, malls, etc. In a relaxed and secure environment. Call a cab and within minutes I'm in an El Centro casa rubbing shoulders with the Centro resident guys. A win / win situation for me.

[QUOTE=FarToMan;1855410]Beware of stuck up people that have economic interest in scaring you to stay in overpriced boring foreigner ghettos![/QUOTE]Get real bro!

Both sides of this debate are right.

Of course, if you know what you're doing, and don't mind the 24 hour crazier scene in el Centro, that's great, stay there by all means.

For those that like their downtime in a more relaxed area, el Centro is not the spot.

To each their own.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1855845]Where would one venture out to see Medelllins finest women, non pros.

Envy- rooftop Charlee Hotel.

Any other places?[/QUOTE]Try Exito, in Poblado, on Sunday morning after church, starting about 11 AM. There are women there of all shapes, sizes, and ages doing their shopping. They outnumber the men about 10-1. If you are by yourself just look like you cannot find something, and some women will be willing to help. Conversely, when in a group of guys everyone just looks, and will not approach.

Health & happiness to all.

[QUOTE=SuperSteve;1856189]Try Exito, in Poblado, on Sunday morning after church, starting about 11 AM. There are women there of all shapes, sizes, and ages doing their shopping. They outnumber the men about 10-1. If you are by yourself just look like you cannot find something, and some women will be willing to help. Conversely, when in a group of guys everyone just looks, and will not approach.

Health & happiness to all.[/QUOTE]Also Carulla For even higher class girls. I can't reccomend a membership to bodytech enough. Its very expensive even for US standards ($100) but you can go to each one around Medellin and meet soooooo many people. I ususally go SUPER early and meet the professionals (like lawyers docotrs) then around 10 comes to "instagram fitness models" They are really great but only really fuck with you if you have like 5 K followers or more. In the evening it's a mad house and just not worth it. But hang around in the juice bar and you good!! Also, if you strike out, the Rio Sur location has a nice jack shack / rub and tug in it. Those girls KNOW how to work out your muscles for REAL!

The thing I can't stress enough is to MAKE FRIENDS WITH LOCALS!! I have like at least half a dozen of REAL FRIENDS. People we have dinner with, we can crash at each others places, can leave money out and they won't take it! (the TRUE TEST) Just don't be a fucking "gringo" and be social, these people are awesome and you should respect thier country for ALL the fine ladies that have been born here. WOWW I FUCKING LOVE PAISA WOMEN!!

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1853488]Portenas are generally both boring and in comparison, I did not want to say it, but they are really UGLY. Arrogant and ugly, go to the northwest in Argentina and you are in Latin America. Buenos Aires. I lived there for a year, my first one in LA, so I didn't understand better.

A prominent, and more important, open, journalist wrote about it. He was more diplomatic, saying that portenas are conservatives, so they don't have boyfriends, they dedicate themself do studies, gym, the family, friends; and "noches manuales".

An american I met at UPB in Medellin said the same thing, rumors says one thing, they are completely false. Hookering are strictly for underclass ugly girls, older, or from the poor provinces. At Energy on Cra 74, two of the hottest girls lived just some blocks away and one was practically living 100 yards from me on Circular 2. Students. The cultural difference is enormous, as it in beauty!

I had a friend (good looking) down from Copenhagen....[/QUOTE]Hilarious and sad at the same time.

I have heard this description of Argentinian culture / attitude from many people. I dated one in Miami and she leaned on the "conservative" side as well.

Sure I have heard some people say otherwise but they are in the minority.

Of the countries in the Americas I have been to, I found girls from the DR and Colombia to be the most happy go lucky.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1853488]The currency has fallen 1/3.

Brazil also have hard times. Their system of defending an artificial currency might have come to an end! Just Like Argentina had its 1:1, when it fell everything was for free during 2-3 yers. Especially I think 2003 was a fantastic year. Venezuela, if you now how to do it, has a parallel currency that in one year has fallen from 10% to 1% of the official rate. These economies are built on, just like China, exportation of products with low added value in combination with a strong fiscal and monetary policy. But when demands falls, even fails, diminish, devaluation, depriation is the only way out. Argentina quickly got back to a sort of crisis, but fake exhange made it difficult for our kind.

I hope for a Brazilian normalization , which would mean that Happy Days comes back - OverNight! And that maduros loco projects is over-run my democrats and that a new floating currency and calm down the whole society and we can be customers at ease. The whole continent would be ReConquista, but not in 700 years, but in 7 days![/QUOTE]Pretty amazing shit. While those of us using USD are getting a great bang (pun intended) for our buck I wonder how low can it go before it ends up being a problem (think Caracas) to visit. There is always a breaking point.

How long before day to day life becomes really uncomfortable for the people there. Somehow I don't think Colombia would bounce back as fast as Argentina if they hit bottom (no pun intended this time).

[QUOTE=Turgid;1853599] I regard Argentinian women as the most beautiful in this hemisphere. Others may not but I am also absolutely mesmerized by Chinese women and also Italian and Ukrainian women. I consider these four to be the most beautiful on the planet.[/QUOTE]My top would be Ethiopian, Colombian, Iranian, Japanese / Chinese / Korean (I honestly can't tell them apart by looking)/ Armenian.

[QUOTE=NewGuy3;1853567]I spent a couple of weeks in Medellin and I wasn't impressed with the quality of the girls at the casas, yet I saw gorgeous girls in the city, on the metro, out and about.

Is Facebook a better option to find beautiful girls? I did see a few beauties in Fase dos and La isla. I'm a face person, so no mater how perfect their body is, if the face is not gorgeous, it's a no go for me.

Where are the 10's?

I'm going back again soon. PM me if you want to share any FB contacts of gorgeous girls in Medellin.

Thanks![/QUOTE]No doubt the city if filled with head turners but how many casas did you visit?

What do you consider a 10? Knowing your type can help fellas lead you to a casa that has it.

Surprised you are returning considering.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1854293]Private apartment, studio on Airbnb is anywhere from $30-$60 for a nice one bedroom and some with washer and dryer and fridge. In El Poblado, LLeras.

No hassles with bringing in guest.

What are the pros of hotels. Other then room service and cleaning.[/QUOTE]If I plan on just hanging out with a local novia or two the entire trip; who will cook and do my laundry Apartmento is cool.

However if I am doing a mongering trip something close and cheap is what's needed.

[QUOTE=Combo;1855054]An well-educated Paisa might appreciate you using proper espanol, but the prepagos, taxistas, et al don't give a shit. For the most part, they don't use anything close to correct Spanish.[/QUOTE]Sometimes I text and email girls I meet online and think "how is my spelling in Spanish better than yours" no doubt some is slang but I think some is just poor writing skills.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1855124]….As a matter of fact, one of them called to book it for me for my next stay at the end of the week. I am not out to try to impress a chica. They need to be trying to impress me.[/QUOTE]"Eres grosero." LOL they sure love dropping that where you don't say or do what they want. Ja Ja.

Wake up in morning.

Morning: Head to Centro- best top 2 casas based on reviews has been I believe NEW LIFE and Zandalay and??

Afternoon: After getting some rest back to the casas or make an appointment with one your FB / Mansion girls or Colombian Cupid / RomanceLatina girls.

Evening: Top 3 strip clubs I believe is Fase Dos, San Diego and?

Top 3 discos for gringos to find putas. Gusto, Farenheight, Luxury Club??

After the strip club closes and after your done with your girl- Head to? I can't recall the place but I believe there is something open until 4 am or where the strip club girls go.

To.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1856874]Wake up in morning.

Morning: Head to Centro- best top 2 casas based on reviews has been I believe NEW LIFE and Zandalay and??[/QUOTE]Are you ever really going to Medellin or are you writing a book? As early as 2009 you have been asking questions about Medellin. By your posts it seems like you know a shitload about the place (way more than me and I have been 5 times since January last year) for someone who has never been, but you still have more questions about the place as well as individual girls. You said you would go last November, but I guess that never happened so now it is back to more questions?

I arrived in Medellin Friday night and took the usual bus downtown for 9k pesos. I have never seen the bus leave the airport and not be full, but this time it was only half full. I met another monger on the bus who is retired and said he would be staying about a month. He is staying at a popular downtown hotel where I know other guys who pay $125/month stay. I rattled off some names and he knew the same guys.

When we got off the bus I peeked up the street and it appeared Barra and Maracaibo were closed. As a matter of fact downtown looked like a ghost town. No worries for me though because my girl was already in the room waiting. I had to make a brief stop by the front desk so the lady could copy my passport for immigration purposes.

When I got to the room I was ready to fuck. My girl said that we would have to wait until midnight because it was Good Friday. It was only 10:30. I told her enough with the superstitous shit. Soon we were doing the horizontal rumble and were off to sleep. I woke up at 5am to her sucking my dick and soon after we were asleep again.

I thought we would be out doing things Saturday but she only wanted to lounge in the room. She even sent me to breakfast alone and had me bring something back for her. We stayed in the room all day fucking and watching TV. My girl even brought Vaseline because she wanted to try anal for the first time. There was no hope in getting my big dick in her small [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url] chute though. We fucked so much that she started crying. I asked what was wrong and she said her pussy was sore. I asked why she would want to keep fucking if it was hurting. She said because she really wanted to be with me. I said that is fine, but don't do it to the point that you are hurting.

She did not leave the room until 8 pm when we went to the casino for dinner. From the looks of it downtown was in full swing. Now when I was dining at the casino last month with Dcfan and a couple of buddies, I did not see any women to talk to, but as Murphy's Law would have it, since I was with my girl then there were two hotties working there that I would have liked to chat up. We went back to the room and were asleep by 10.

My girl tells me that since tomorrow is Easter, we will be lucky to even find food.

Usually when I come here I am hanging out mongering with the fellas and only in the room minimum time. But let me tell you that it is hot as a mf in this room all day and night with no AC. If I ever plan on just staying with the same chick again then I will surely get an apartment so I can have more creature comforts. This place is great if you are only in it to sleep or fuck, but for chillin out it is for the birds.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1856913]I arrived in Medellin Friday night and took the usual bus downtown for 9k pesos. I have never seen the bus leave the airport and not be full, but this time it was only half full. I met another monger on the bus who is retired and said he would be staying about a month. He is staying at a popular downtown hotel where I know other guys who pay $125/month stay. I rattled off some names and he knew the same guys.
[/QUOTE]Must feel good to arrive in Medellin like you did. This popular downtown hotel you are talking about, which one is that (pm)?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1856913]I arrived in Medellin Friday night and took the usual bus downtown for 9k pesos. I have never seen the bus leave the airport and not be full, but this time it was only half full.[/QUOTE]I'll be visiting MDE next month. I'd like to know more about this bus.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;1857039]I'll be visiting MDE next month. I'd like to know more about this bus.[/QUOTE]After you pass out of immigration and go outside there will be 2 green and white buses. One goes to San Diego and the other goes to centro. The people going to Poblado take the San Diego bus then take a taxi from there. The people going downtown take the centro bus and get off at the last stop, which is in front of the bus company's office and behind the Nutibara Hotel. 9000 pesos.

Yes visited but also good to keep hearing new info and others opinion.

Never been to this place but seems to be fun and pretty girls.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/explore/locations/1029014894/[/URL]

Fonda las Chifladas.

Anyone been there!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1856884]Are you ever really going to Medellin or are you writing a book? As early as 2009 you have been asking questions about Medellin. By your posts it seems like you know a shitload about the place (way more than me and I have been 5 times since January last year) for someone who has never been, but you still have more questions about the place as well as individual girls. You said you would go last November, but I guess that never happened so now it is back to more questions?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1857052]After you pass out of immigration and go outside there will be 2 green and white buses. One goes to San Diego and the other goes to centro. The people going to Poblado take the San Diego bus then take a taxi from there. The people going downtown take the centro bus and get off at the last stop, which is in front of the bus company's office and behind the Nutibara Hotel. 9000 pesos.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much, sir. Once again, our own strange version of Fight Club delivers.

I'm dipping my toes into the Centro action next trip, staying at he Nutibara, and not using a driver to get there.

How long does it take the bus to get there? How do I arrange to take the bus back to the airport? How long does it take the bus to get back to the airport?

When I arrive, I usually drop off my bags where I am staying and make a mad dash for pharm/phone/food/cash: Hit the pharmacy, buy minutes for my local phone, change money, get snacks. I know where to get all that in Poblado, and in short order, but can anyone provide locations near the Hotel N?

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;1857077]How long does it take the bus to get there? How do I arrange to take the bus back to the airport? How long does it take the bus to get back to the airport?

When I arrive, I usually drop off my bags where I am staying and make a mad dash for pharm/phone/food/cash: Hit the pharmacy, buy minutes for my local phone, change money, get snacks. I know where to get all that in Poblado, and in short order, but can anyone provide locations near the Hotel N?[/QUOTE]It takes 50 minutes to get back and forth to the airport. To go back you go to the same place it dropped you off and hop on the next thing smoking. They leave every 30 minutes. I don't know about changing money because I use the ATMs. The one inside Nutibara hotel is one that is accessible 24 hours. Everything else that you mentioned you will find in ample supply all over the area.

P.S. There are restaurants open downtown today. Right now me and my girl are having breakfast at my usual spot.

Hello everyone,

First of all: this is not a typical post in here I would say. Sorry for it to be quite long too.

For the last 2 or 3 years; I am basically looking for a girlfriend to stay with. My game is quite OK and I am never shy to go to talk to any woman.

But I am looking for something really specific: a girl, educated, that does not want me to be her sugardaddy all the time, with a skinny top model body.

Sex just for sex doesn't interest me so much any more unless new experiences.

I am 32 y old; super tall; OK looking and European. My first language is French but I speak quite well Spanish. I am living in Medellin for 2 months.

Just came back yesterday from 5 really crazy days. I must say. I really hate myself now, but I guess it makes me feel temporarily better to write about it.

The girl.

5/6 weeks ago, I met this girl in a Parque LLeras club (el deck), had her whatsapp really easily with funny lines like "you are the girl of my life, I want to meet you, blabla".

She is physically my perfection: very skinny but still with a nice and natural ass / boobs combo; rather tall for a local girl (1.69) and has the longest hair I have ever seen. 22 years old.

I met her twice afterwards, we kissed on first date; she told me some really wonderful things like. "I want to know all about you", etc. She is middle class and in her last year as a dentist, she hates if I pay anything for her.

I am basically quickly falling into sentiments. The third date, I invite her at my place to watch some movie and we end up have amazing sex. She has the most beautiful body I have ever seen in real.

She is bisexual, tells me about some of her crazy stories, damn, perfect girl. She told me she wanted to go to EJE Cafetero (Salento, Manizales, etc.) during Semana Santa and I quickly said I would go with her. This is exactly what happened.

But it was not easy. She does not have money since she is still studying and her father is helping her. But the night before we are supposed to go, she is like, I am canceling all because my father is so bad, I can't go; blabla. She is out of her house for +24 hours.

I don't believe her and tell her she is playing with me. She answer me with so crazy messages telling me that "that all our conversations, laughs, the sex we had together, etc, were not a game, that she likes me a lot, etc. ".

I feel in heaven with her answers and the next day. Her father finally gave her money and Tuesday morning, we were in our way to Eje Cafetero.

I am like "Damn, OK, I only know her for a little bit of time but going 5 days in a trip with her is going to make things amazing. " Especially since she is dreaming about traveling but didn't have many opportunities.

When we make it to our amazing hotel near Manizales in our first day, we have amazing sex, she is so beautiful, god I am happy. Once again, she pays everything, we do all 50/50.

There I am, with a girl that I find physically perfect, not with me for my money, a bit crazy like I like, doing very well in her studies, etc. Almost most perfect times ever.

Then. Things start to go down. Second day, she tells me she does not want to have sex with me anymore. Basically, for the 4 other days, we had a once a day really nice masturbation sessions where I would give her an orgasm and she would finish me at handjobing.

Very nice but I don't understand why she doesn't want sex any more.

Then, and that is where I start to hate myself, I basically show too much my sentiments and she doesn't like it. Things like, when we are traveling, I always want to touch her hand or something like that. She doesn't like it.

We have conversations where she tells me that she is still young; that she doesn't care if people think she is a ***** but that she still wants to experiment with many guys and girls.

She wished and I wish that I was the guy that didn't had any feeling about her, just sex and fun.

But I basically never can do that in my life when I start to like a girl. And almost every times, it fucks me. I really think of myself of shit about this. Its like, any girl I really like I will always fuck up things. While most girls I fuck with, that I don't care about, things go quite well.

Then. Things get even worse. 3 days ago, she finally tells me, little by little, that she is thinking about another guy ALL the time. That she thinks to be in couple with him. All the bullshit about not wanting to be in a relation and then this.

The guy is Colombian, 36 why old (god girls love older guys here.), he told her she is in a informal relation with a woman but wants to be with her.

She goes so crazy about it, looking at her whatsapp all the time.

The fucked up thing is they met. Just a little bit before she met me! They had sex only once, when we were already together.

The *****. But before our 5 days trip, she would never show she was thinking about someone else. Once again, she showed me so many signs that I interpreted as 'I really start to like you too'. This whole drama only started during the trip.

What is more horrible than having a girl next to you that is 100% thinking about someone else?

God, this makes me feel so much like shit.

- I think it is almost impossible for a gringo guy, even with good Spanish; to find a paisa girlfriend in a relation non based about money. The nice educated girls, with no kids; they only want Colombian guys.

Plus, even if your Spanish is really good, the conversations with a local educated guy will always be more enjoyable for her. God this fucks me so much to think like that. Is my only viable option, knowing what I want, to be with a girl from my country? (Belgium) I hate the idea.

- She probably saw the guy almost as soon as we arrived to Medellin yesterday night. I tried to go party, to speak to a few girls but came back quite drunk, feeling like shit like never.

I hope it went wrong with the guy but I doubt it. He is probably good to make someone feel crazy like she did with her and even if he only wants a young and fine pussy, he will not fuck his own game.

She told me she was only in love twice in her life and that she had problems about it then (had to go to a psychologist, missed a whole school year, etc.). She is super passionate.

I don't know much what to do now. I plan not to write to her at all for a few days but the Whatsapp attraction is really strong.

Even though the idea fucks me, I guess I am done with her and should grow up and stop to be a drama Queen. But as soon as I will be again alone with my thoughts, not doing much, I will go down again.

°Did some of you have kind of the same stories? What do you think about it? Please, it would be great to read your since thoughts.

°Even though it doesn't make sense with the 'I am totally in love and want a relation with this Colombian guy' bullshit, she told me many times that she would want to have group sex.

I am opened to bisexual relations and she seems to be very fond about the idea. Do you recommend me the Swingers Clubs? I have read about Lili Swinger, is it nice there?

°Last but not least. Where do you recommend me to go out to, I guess I will have no choice, find more girls like her: educated, not looking for money type of girls. Where does university girls go? In my opinion, Parque LLeras is as bad as hell even though you can always get lucky. (I met her there.).

Parque Colombia? Anywhere else? For the story, before I met her, I once went to Bello, we were the only gringos in place and the game was maybe the easiest of my whole life! Had a really nice fuck the next day.

Cheers guys.

[QUOTE=KillArmy;1857139]Hello everyone,

First of all: this is not a typical post in here I would say. Sorry for it to be quite long too.

For the last 2 or 3 years; I am basically looking for a girlfriend to stay with...[/QUOTE]Interesting story. Thanks for sharing.

Perhaps you are over thinking it? (Easy, I know, when you get hooked on someone.).

A highly simplified version of your story could be:

1. Girl meets interesting boy.

2. Girl wants to learn more, and so gives him lots of encouragement.

3. Girl decides he's nice, but not for her, and so gives him a lot of discouragement.

The details of her positive, then negative signals don't really matter, and it may be wasted energy to analyze them.

My own story was a bit different. I met my chica, was similarly starstruck, then returned to spend several more time with her. She was nice and fun to party with, but it was clear that she was looking for money, so I just lost my interest. She sensed that and didn't try to keep it going afterwards.

[QUOTE=KillArmy;1857139]Hello everyone,

First of all: this is not a typical post in here I would say. Sorry for it to be quite long too.

For the last 2 or 3 years; I am basically looking for a girlfriend to stay with. My game is quite OK and I am never shy to go to talk to any woman.

But I am looking for something really specific: a girl, educated, that does not want me to be her sugardaddy all the time, with a skinny top model body.

Sex just for sex doesn't interest me so much any more unless new experiences.

I am 32 y old; super tall; OK looking and European. My first language is French but I speak quite well Spanish. I am living in Medellin for 2 months.

Just came back yesterday from 5 really crazy days. I must say. I really hate myself now, but I guess it makes me feel temporarily better to write about it.

The girl.

5/6 weeks ago, I met this girl in a Parque LLeras club (el deck), had her whatsapp really easily with funny lines like "you are the girl of my life, I want to meet you, blabla"....[/QUOTE]I hate to say this but anywhere were there are too many sex tourist girls won't take you seriously in relationship unless you show them you are there to live and not for 2 weeks and leave. And what did you mean with * ? And don't forget some girls ain't worth to be in relationship it is just life they just want to be banged by different guys they don't want to be saved. And Parque Lleras is full of pros if you want to meet cool girls go to eafit. Rule of advice every where there is money $$ there is prostitution.

Hmmmm. Spending time, money, and energy taking another man's girlfriend seems like the height of self loathing: a metaphor for alpha fucks and beta bucks. Best case scenario: you take her on the trip, she is on her best behavior, she gives you the best sex of her life, and she declares her love for you. Congratulations, you are human **** detector, having determined that she is willing to vine swing to the Bigger, Better Deal. Like the Parisian tart who had a boyfriend in the French Army in 1940, upgraded to German soldier in 1943, and was the war bride of an American officer in 1946, only to be divorced and safely ensconced in the suburbs of Scarsdale, New York, by 1951. (Think of the mother of the Leonardo deCaprio character in 'Catch Me If You Can. '.

I hope this experience has opened your eyes. Don't take your wife on vacation. Don't take your girlfriend on vacation, unless she helps pay for it. And you certainly don't take a "potential" girlfriend or someone else's girlfriend on vacation. A trip to Manizales is cool. But there are chicas there, too, not need to bring one. Why take sand to the beach? Why take coals to Newcastle? Why fly lobbyists to Washington?

Like Maslow's hierarchy of human needs, the female corollary is a constant need for Protection / Provision / Entertainment / Validation. When she started bringing up potential conflicts to leaving in the first place, she was giving you a "shit test" (as in "How much shit will this guy put up with? Have I bent him to my will, yet? You passed her shit test by wanting the vacation more than she did, she got to enjoy some "drama" (getting you to beg), and she was not committed to it from the start. That was the time to say, "ok," we can hang out while I am in town, and if she started getting unreliable, you would have still been free to have fun with her local competition. By not taking her on the vacation, she would have learned to value your availability, and you would have deflected her pent up demand for Provision / Attention / Validation back to her boyfriend. What would have been the next step? You take them both on vacation, and spend your nights in the bed room next door listening to them cavorting at your expense?

Women rarely act better on vacation than they do at home. On a vacation that you are paying for, provision and protection are already assumed. The fact that you have chosen them for the vacation will. Temporarily - sate their need for validation. However, when women are not sufficiently entertained, they will gladly accept the substitute of made up conflict. In other words when the "soap opera" of their own lives starts to bore them, they create things to be upset about. Why do you think we call it "drama?

They will ruin a perfectly good vacation if they get bored or if you focus on enjoying the vacation instead of using it as a platform to bolster their self-esteem. They will start with pouting, emotionally withdrawing to see if you focus on the vacation rather than on the subtle cues she is sending you that she wants more attention. When you don't, they will sabotage the vacation, first by criticizing and nitpicking more and more details. ("Aspen is too cold. This beach isn't sandy enough. Rio de Janiero is too hot. The local women are all wearing slutty string bikinis. Don't look at them. You only gave me $500 to go shopping with. The bed is too hard. My co-worker's boyfriend took her to Mount Expensive. Why didn't you take me to Mount Expensive? The humidity of San Tropez is bad for my hair. ".

Like the true princess in the fairy tale, you will find out that she CAN detect if someone has put three peas under the bed of 26 mattresses she slept on.

Women will ruin perfectly good vacations if they get bored. They can afford to. To you, that vacation ruined by her impossible-to-meet standards (which is actually her bottomless pit of need for entertainment / validation) represents vacation days you will not get back from your employer, the overtime hours you put over some weekends, the little sacrifices you made to save the extra money to pay for the vacation while meeting her everyday P / P / E / V needs. To her, it was just an opportunity to run you through a battery of shit tests. They do this, because you can't do anything about it. You are trying to salvage a vacation she has no investment in. I have seen women on vacation turn into emotional terrorists, creating psychodrama as that get their men locked up in jail (on domestic violence charges or orchestrating a fist fight with one of the locals), setting off financial bombs ("honey, I took all our savings and lost it in the casino".), or completely humiliating their men in public.

Imagine being the pilot of a jet airliner. In the cockpit, is the pilot, the man who just wanted clear skies and low cloud cover as he navigates his way through this flight. In the passenger section, are not passengers, but all the man's work and social relationships, his credit record, and the rest of his 'baggage. ' The bored and slightly suicidal wife or girlfriend is like a terrorist who bursts into the cockpit and will wrestle the pilot for control of the plane / vacation. The flight / vacation is too smooth and lacks excitement, so she will remedy that by trying to crash the vacation into a mountain. Not because she is trying to make a political point. But because she is bored and the pilot is not paying enough attention to her.

If you have gotten this far in a relationship, to the point that you will take her on vacations, she already determined she has "gotten" you, that you care. Women appreciate men that they have acquired easily the way that children appreciate toys that their parents replace every time they break them for the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th time. What does she really appreciate? The guy that is still out of reach. She figures you are a broken plow horse and not a wild stallion, so why not see how far the taming process goes? What are you going to do? Hit the "ejection seat" midway through the vacation, check out of the hotel, and go your own way?

99% of men will not do that, because they think they have so much to lose. "I can't just pay the hotel bill and leave her with her credit card, passport, and plane ticket so she can go back home while I go and spend the rest of my time with the local women who are younger, hotter, and less bitchy than my girlfriend. I just can't! I have too much to lose back home. I've invested* too much into the relationship. " said every blue pill man who came back from vacation tired, frustrated, alienated, broke, and with blue balls.

Most men have high expectations for the vacation. They think that a new environment, a new adventure is going to make her soooo romantic. It is just the opposite for women. Whatever endorphin thrill she experienced about the vacation came when she saw the charges for airfare and lodging get swiped onto your credit card and tapered off 15 minutes after she bragged about the vacation plans to her friends. That occurred days or weeks before you went to the airport, and women are programmed to ask "What have you done for me. Lately?" and by lately, for some women, emotionally, they have the 30 second emotional memory span of a goldfish. When goldfish are hungry or scared for 30 seconds, they believe that they have been hungry or scared all their lives.

This is why I argue that you are better off being a monger and having many "honeymoons. " Go abroad, meet exotic, beautiful women, be nice to each other, enjoy those wonderful endorphins at the peak of their tingly freshness, knowing you have gotten 75% of the best parts of any relationship with a woman in 5% of the time and for a fraction of the cost. Now, THAT is an investment with a high rate of return! Experience time with a woman that has nothing to gain by creating "drama" because you aren't the pilot of big, slow jet airliner that is loaded with all your baggage. You came in a fighter jet and your cockpit comes equipped with the handle to an ejection seat. And guess what? You aren't sitting in the ejection seat. She is!

Once she cut you off from her competition, she had you at her mercy. To have her cut you off from girlfriend sex to hand jobs. That was her seeing how much she had "broken you. ".

Imagine if you had said, after a second night of hand jobs, that you saw this wasn't working out and you heading back to MDE or checking into another room in the hotel (to cavort with the local talent). She would have changed her tune pretty quick. You are not around all the time, and she could not wait until you were heading back home to experiment with her local guy? And she had to tell you she was carrying a torch for him? Why? To humiliate you, is why.

Women only have power over thirsty men. She took you away to the waterfall (MDE), created a temporary "pussy desert," and then spent the rest of the week taunting and teasing you with "mirages" of an oasis and dangling a canteen of water while you crawled in the sand.

Chicas are on their best behavior when they have something to lose. Sure, the idea of trip seems like a great idea, but it never works out, or if it does, it has an expiration date of 72 hours.

* We can have a discussion at some other time about how a blue pill man's "investment" in a relationship is such a poor one.

[QUOTE=KillArmy;1857139]Hello everyone,

.[/QUOTE]Hey buddy. This post makes my heart bleed for you! Keep your head up. This is what they do.

Paisa are Jedi Level 100 heart Manipluators. Anyone that has lived in Medellin for more then a month has had this happen to them.

I'm not here to beat you up or give you examples of what to do and what not to do. ALl I can tell you is to remember. Remember all the pain it caused and to learn from the good and bad. It.

S brave of you to share on here I know. We might be a "mongers" board but we are also Humans. Good luck to you. PM me if you like. I actualy know some more "real" girls like real real ones. It can happen. You just need to make actual friends with colombian locals and you will get into the social circles.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;1857206] [/QUOTE]A lot of wisdom there Iguana. Me, I like to keep things simple.

First. Doubt I would go on vacation with a girl I am just meeting, especially when there's problems at the start.

Second. I don't do relationships. The moment she says no more sex, my vacation is over and I'm out of there.

Third. She sensed weakness and neediness in him, exploited it and made him her Man *.

Hope he learns from it. It was a cheap lesson and if he learns from it, it was worth it.

But most guys keep making the same mistakes.

Thanks for all the nice answers guys. I have been sharing my story in another famous forum as well, and I feel much better reading your guys glad I made this post.

I am obviously still quite a bit crazy about the girl but I decided to not write her anything for 4/5 days then write her something like 'I did want you to have the time to clear her head, put her ideas back in place* which was what she seemed to be looking for, even though mostly about this Colombian guy.

Maybe it can goes nice from there but if not. I am already more than motivated to be back in the game.

And as I wrote, it's quite possible that we have a 'sex-friendship' at some point, going to Swingers clubs etc, which is something I always wanted to experience. We will see, I guess it's unlikely though.

Will answer each of you:

PaulPassem: Yes, I over thought and got completely over-emotional about things. I really like how you summarize things and it's probably true. I don't know if the Negative signals would have come at all if I didn't have the bad luck to be in competition with a local guy without knowing it. It's from when she realized how much she needed him etc. That things started to go down.

I am glad for you that you realized about that your relation was too much only about money. There is way too much of things like that in here, especially with young girls with kids. I'd hate to fall in love into something like that.

Curnsop: Actually, I do live here since late January, until mid June. I work with Internet so I can always tell the chicas that I am potentially here for some time. But I don't have a VISA so I can probably only stay here 6 months in total during the year, which sucks.

As for the * word, it's just that I thought she was really a ***** to have had all what we had while she was also with another guy. OK, we were not yet in a relation and OK she is quite free regarding sex but still. Hard to take, especially with all he good signals back then. I tend to over-idealize women though I know a lot of them are just like us. And I should not be disrespectful to girls like that though.

Then. Man, what you wrote about EAFIT really interests me. I live quite close to the place, I am not really shy, even day time but. What can I do there? Just try to talk to some random girls? Can you be more specific please?

Iguana Six: I really appreciated your long answer but I think there is 2/3 things that you maybe have misunderstood. English isn't my first language so it might not help.

She was never the girlfriend of me, nor the Colombian guy, since I met her. Just, maybe, the start of a new relation. But unfortunately for me, it seems that while we were traveling, she realized how she wanted that guy. And how, disregarding her idea that she doesn't want to be in couple, want to have a serious relation with him.

As for this trip, I would tend to agree with you, it was maybe a bad idea or too early. But it was also an unique opportunity (she has like twice 1 week vacation a year) and I thought 'after such an experience, we can only fall in love'. She actually fell in love as well but not in the right direction.

As for the money, she actually would always insist always to pay everything on her own. Didn't want to have the impression to own me anything I guess. But to me, it was wonderful and even more showing it could be the start of a sane relation. I love to take care of my girl but. When I want it, not when I feel obligated.

I think we still had pretty good vacation, she has a lot of character but she thanked me many time about these days in the last hours we were together, showing how nice it was. She is still quite young and basically wouldn't imagine doing a bit of adventure like we did without a kind 'of guide'. Which I was.

All that said, I enjoy a lot the last paragraphs of your answer. Indeed, when she started to go about this other guy, I didn't do anything like you did, even though I was thinking to do something like you wrote. I didn't because I was too afraid to lose the little I still had, preferring to enjoy the present moment instead of taking a bit of risks and eventually get rewarded for it.

But why women, even without really realizing it, does want to humiliate 'thirsty' mans?

You make a lot of sense anyway.

Blue change: Thanks for the nice words man. Yes, we need to learn from our mistakes but I hate the impression that I will never be able to create something with a *dream girl*. This is one of the biggest reason, if not the biggest, why I get unstable and a bit out of morale in the last 6/7 years of my life.

Actually. Our last night, we went to a bar and had some *wow* conversations where she would tell me all about the other guy, etc. Before that. I actually cried in her hands telling her that I hated the fact that I seem to never be able to be with a girl I really like, while most girls I don't care about probably wouldn't mind more with me. Story of my life.

Heard quite a few times now about the manipulator-style of the local girls, I will definitely be more careful.

I decided to share this story here because of the *swingers aspect* which I would love (if a real serious relation is not possible) with her but indeed, this is not a typical monger post.

Last but not least, yes, getting into local social circles is definitely what I need. I so much agree with you. And will PM you straight away; sounds amazing if we can meet and at the same time, I can maybe meet some new girls / local people.

TellAll: There were not any problems between us before we went to vacations. Just that she was not sure about getting some money from her father. I wouldn't have gone if I had knew before about the other guy though.

She never said 'no more sex' in some sense. Thing is only the first night we had full sex. Then, once a day, huge masturbation / handjob sessions. It's ultra rare that a woman is able to make me cum and she did. It was amazing orgasms for me, thus well, I was never really fucked about the situation. I would have gone crazy without this, and, indeed, probably left.

Then, yeah, you are right about the weakness / neediness she felt in me. Not sure why a girl would want to make you her '*****' because of this but. Very wise words from another post: 'Make sure the girl always has something to lose'.

I hope this will make me grow but yeah, I might keep making the same mistakes. I am too easily passionate.

Guys. Thanks a lot for your thoughts and advices. So very appreciated.

[QUOTE=KillArmy;1857139]Hello everyone,

First of all: this is not a typical post in here I would say. Sorry for it to be quite long too..

Cheers guys.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing. I like your story. I feel your pain too. It seems you are infatuated with the impossible girl. She will definitely make your life miserable and if that is what you want, that is what you are going to get, misery.

A simple response to you post, is that you seemed too needy and that is not attractive at all. Your neediness and desires for a relationship have destroyed the initial passion and great sex you were having with the girl. Have you kept the relationship.

Off the table, that may have worked on your favor, but you know now what happened, the flame is gone now. Have you thought about not being such a nice guy with this girl. If I were you, I would move on, and would look at this as a learning.

Opportunity. Did you learn anything? And good luck.

So, I just read KillArmy's story and some of the responses.

First of all, welcome to Colombia, LOL, you've just completed Colombian Women 101.

You sound like a sincere guy that's looking for something serious, you don't just want to do the regular mongering stuff anymore.

Problem is most Colombian women are bat-shit crazy! So don't take it personal, there is actually nothing unique about your story.

My first advice is if you're looking for something serious try picking up a girl somewhere else, not the Lleras party scene. Try daytime pickups at the park or a regular looking girl at a middle-class mall. Don't go after the hotties.

My second advice: while Iguana's breakdown goes a bit too far, it's true that vacations are more often a problem than not.

In theory, they always sound like a good idea. That's what our American culture trains us: vacations are romantic, they are things that couples do to be a couple.

Problem is it rarely works if you just met the girl. Many years ago, I had a similar experience with a girl I brought with me to Cartagena, that I thought I got along well with. But I didn't really know her for long and it didn't work out at all. I ended up sneaking out at night to get my monger groove on but of course she must have suspected something and that probably made the situation worse. There was definitely self-created drama as Iguana points out.

So the marketers and travel and entertainment industries paint vacation a certain way. But reality is vacation is not something people do regularly, and even less in Colombia, and that goes even for middle-class Colombians like this chica you met.

If you're serious about building a relationship, instead of vacation, do the normal boring everyday stuff that real relationships are about. Hang out with her, meet her friends and family. Take her out on dates to the park, the movies, etc.

Also, instead of going all out, you can do a brief vacation. Do a couple of day-trips first. Then do an overnight at a finca nearby, say up near Rio Negro. Most middle-class Colombians go out to a finca on the weekends so it can even be a group thing with friends.

Once you've invested 6-12 months of real world stuff, then you can go into fantasy mode and take her on a vacation. Then it will actually mean something.

Finally: I think your problem is you come off a bit desperate and needy, it even seeps through your report. My advice is cool off with some meaningless sex; do a type of mongering that you've never done before, something that will stretch your skills, whether it's street girls or casas or after hours spots. Just get laid a bunch of times and stop worrying about finding true love. Most men are unhappy in their marriages and relationships, so don't idealize or romanticize the situation. There are many ways to solve your problem but it won't guarantee happiness or a perfect life; being with a woman, even a good one, is always a challenge.

Most of the time I wish I was 20 years younger, but your story reminds me why there are advantages to being middle-aged.

Here are some things you need to learn if you don't want to keep having the same problems.

When it comes to money there are 3 basic types of women. Type 1: expects you to pay for everything, will ask for gifts or spending money. This type will happily have sex with you, even a relationship, but the most important thing will always be the money.

Type 2: will never let you pay, always pays her share. There is no chance of a relationship with her. By always paying, she is insisting on her independence.

Type 3: will offer to pay, but will allow you to pay. She won't ask for gifts or for extra money, she won't ask for vacations or other things which require you to spend money. This girl is looking for a relationship, something real based on emotional support instead of financial support.

Your mistake, you expected a type 3 relationship with a type 2 girl. Most people here do the same thing with a type 1 girl.

Probably, especially since she mentioned experimenting with other men, women couples, etc. , she saw you as a flavor to try. She wanted to have sex with a really tall European. Probably you could have had a great, sex-filled vacation with her, and occasional sex after, if you had understood the situation. She wanted sex, just sex. She didn't want "te amo" and "sólo para ti", just hot, sweaty, weak in the knees, mind blowing sex. As soon as you went past the "have sex / have fun" line, she shut you down.

Maybe she has a relationship with the Colombian and maybe he's just a fuck buddy, but there was never a chance for a relationship with you.

Until you learn to separate sex and love, this cycle will repeat.

As far as swinging goes, at this point it would be a complete disaster for you, especially with this girl (not that she would ever do that with you).

Swinging is a very special type of relationship. As a single male, your options are very limited, you need a, preferably bisexual, partner. Ideally, the partner should be a real partner, a long time girlfriend or wife. But it requires some special qualities to work. If either person has self-esteem issues, or jealousy issues, it will end badly. Thinking of watching your girl with another woman, while you're having your way with both seems great, until you realize the other woman gives her better orgasms than you. Throw another man in and it gets worse. Add jealousy to that. Disaster.

It is possible to swing with a fuck buddy. A fuck buddy is a friend. Someone you can hang out and talk with, someone you can have sex with, but someone you never want anything more from. Someone you can go to a club with, and you both end up going home with different people, then get together and compare experiences.

A fuck buddy is a good option for swingers clubs, because the sex is not tied to the relationship. So you can be having a great time with some woman while her husband is next to you with your friend.

But before you can think about that you need to get your mind right. Sex and love are completely separate. The only difference between sex and masturbation is who handles the cleanup.

Love. Do you love your parents? You probably don't have any strong desire to have sex with them. If you're looking for love, forget about the sex. When it happens, great. Enjoy it, but don't assume someone loves you, or you love them, because you had sex. If you're upset because the girl stopped having sex with you, you didn't love her, because you were putting your desires over her desires.

Learn the signs. If a woman wants more than just sex, she will show you. She'll be affectionate outside of sex. She will let you buy her dinner and take on the role of provider. She will defer to you, allowing you to make the decisions. If after having sex a few times, the girl isn't doing these 3 things, it's time to either enjoy the sex and forget about the relationship, or time to move on.

Good luck.

Hello Gentlemen,

New to this part of the forum. I have extensive reviews and stories over in the Puerto Plata DR section, but have never ventured over to Colombia.

I am thinking about my first trip here at the end of May or June, however I have a few questions.

First off this would be my first trip to Medellin or Colombia for that matter, I am a vet in the DR with an uncountable trips under my belt. When I go to the DR I am looking for relaxation,
and a very chill environment. That is why I usually go to Sosua for the first day or two, then wind up going to Black Beards for about 5. That combo works for me.
When I land I party, HARD, then after two days of that I am ready for the vacation to start.

All that being said, I have done some research about the Mansion here in Medellin, which to my understanding is the Hotel Medellin Plaza. I am curious if any of you fine gentlemen have ever.
Been to Blackbeards and the mansion, are they similar? Is one better than the other, could you give me any info on it in regards to comparisons?
Also me being a young guy who takes care of himself, I have gotten GFE with every single girl I have had contact with in Blackbeards (not so much in Sosua).

(FULL DISCLOSURE ON THAT STATEMENT)*it could possibly be because my Spanish is passable and I sweet talk them to death at Blackbeards so by the time they get to my room they want to rip off my clothes.
This strategy also comes with some obvious drawbacks, but hell, I have fun, even with some of the drama it brings. Anyway back the questions.

Are Colombian women more or less GFE'why than the DR?
I hate to ask such open questions, but some of the posts I have seen talking about these subjects are from 08 and honestly the DR has changed DRAMATICALLY since.
Then so I just want to make sure any info I have is up to date before I book the trip.

Thanks for any\all your help guys.

Thanks Jj. This is the best report that I have read from you. I am glad that you wrote it before me because now I do not have to. I just want to add a couple of things.

1. With women (and men) it is cop and blow. Here today and gone tomorrow. Maybe come back for a spell and leave again. Maybe stay around for years until a better deal comes along. Enjoy the person while they are around.

2. Love yourself. Don't depend on someone else to love you. That is stupid. You can't control other people and you will never break your own heart.

3. Most of the time when I meet women they ask what I am looking for. The truth is that I am not looking for a damn thing. I am willing to let whatever happens happen. Guys ask how to be sure to score with non-pros. There is no way to be sure.

I was in the airport in Bogota last night on my way to Lima when I sent a message to a chick I have chatted to on and off since right before New Years. I told her I was here and she said she would come up to the airport to meet me. We had a drink at a bar. I asked her how much her taxi was to come and she said 25 k because she lives in the north. That was just about the change from the drinks so I gave it to her and told her I would pay for one way. She said no and gave me the money back. I am trying to tell her goodbye so I can go get on my flight and she said no. She wants us to spend the night together. Shit. Peru had to fucking wait. I did not expect anything like that. I was just letting whatever happens happen. Now I am back at the airport waiting to go to Lima again.

My man was out looking for his dream and when it did not end up how he pictured it he gets his heart broken. We see the same thing every damn day on ISG. Guy goes to whatever mongering locale. He has his heart set on finding a girl who meets his certain criteria. When he does not find said girl he reports the place is terrible or has gone to shit. Since I go with an open mind just to see what I can get into, I am never disappointed. Certain aspects of the place may be off (boring at certain periods, poor infrastructure), but I damn sure enjoy myself with the women because I don't have a picture in my head of what kind I must get or the things she must do.

4. Most guys on ISG are running around trying to pay for pussy. You had pussy paying for you. You definitely should have enjoyed it for what it was and ridden it out as long as possible. That shit needed to be treated with kid gloves, because like my man Jj said one false move and the party is over. You upset the balance. I have fucked the balance up many a time before by doing one little bullshit thing, but the unfortunate thing is that you do not know that little thing would ruin it until the good thing is gone.

Next time be easy.

[QUOTE=Phunluv;1857340]So, I just read KillArmy's story and some of the responses.

Finally: I think your problem is you come off a bit desperate and needy, it even seeps through your report. My advice is cool off with some meaningless sex; do a type of mongering that you've never done before, something that will stretch your skills, whether it's street girls or casas or after hours spots. Just get laid a bunch of times and stop worrying about finding true love. Most men are unhappy in their marriages and relationships, so don't idealize or romanticize the situation. There are many ways to solve your problem but it won't guarantee happiness or a perfect life; being with a woman, even a good one, is always a challenge.[/QUOTE]Great response to KillArmy, as well as the other guys' responses.

I remember, being new in Colombia, over 15 years ago now, falling for a beautiful girl from Cali.

About the same as KillArmy, I was all sappy, lovey dovey, etc.

She too, told me about some Colombian dude she "loved" and wanted.

Yep, she was still nice to me, just like KillArmy's girl to him, but I was basically the dreaded "amigo". LOL.

Anyway, to make a long story short, I had my cry (yep I was a dork), then got strong, toughened up, mongered my booty off, had fun!

Learned from my experience big time.

Told myself I would never allow myself to be stupid nor allow myself to cry again, like a dork.

Way way way too many girls out there for that crying nonsense!

If I start feeling a girl giving me drama or grief or the amigo BS, I just move on now. No huss, no fuss. Ciao baby!

Like the other posters having been saying as well, these girls can feel your being too thirsty for Love.

Mellow out a bit, be more mysterious and have more of a IDGAF attitude, and they dig ya all the more.

My Cali girl, eventually got dicked over and dumped by the Colombiano, just like KillArmy's girl will most likely be.

She came running back, and by then, I was over that nonsense, had met a gazillion more babes.

I, of course, did her the favor of some good sex, LOL again, however, I just saw her as a sex "amiga" now.

That felt good!

Enjoy life KillArmy!

Just keep having fun, lay low on the drama for a bit, you'll see, you'll be laughing at this episode shortly.

[QUOTE=KillArmy;1857139]Hello everyone,


I am 32 y old; super tall; OK looking and European. My first language is French but I speak quite well Spanish. I am living in Medellin for 2 months....

.[/QUOTE]Thinked it was me who wrote the post. Same age, nationality ;)

This experience doesn't happen to me for the moment. You were lucky to find a girl educated who don't want you pay for her. Actually I didn't find any of this type of girls and I'm a little desperate.

If you plan to stay in MDE, you probably continue to see her and with the time she can change. I can understand with his age she wants to have more fun. Us we are 30's so we want to start serious relations.

[QUOTE=Kyrawz;1857535]Thinked it was me who wrote the post. Same age, nationality ;)

This experience doesn't happen to me for the moment. You were lucky to find a girl educated who don't want you pay for her. Actually I didn't find any of this type of girls and I'm a little desperate.

If you plan to stay in MDE, you probably continue to see her and with the time she can change. I can understand with his age she wants to have more fun. Us we are 30's so we want to start serious relations.[/QUOTE]If you're in your 30's and want to start a serious relationship, stop chasing the 20 year olds. You can have your pick of women just a few years older than you and they'll do just about anything to keep you happy.

The 20 year olds are either just looking for a good time, or are looking for a good source of money. The few who want a serious relationship are looking for someone their own age.

Guys,

Thanks a lot for all the amazing messages. I feel in the limit of stupidity when writing so much in here but all your reactions are so nice, not judgmental, etc. , I really appreciate it. Even better if some can learn out of my story.

This will and really is helping me. I will come back to read some of your guys whenever I feel bad again (like this morning.) to make me feel up again. So much to be learned.

'Learn to be sure to understand the signs a girl is showing to you before you do anything crazy about her'. So true. I missed this point with her though she probably manipulated me a bit.

Kyrawz: I hear you man. But: if you got some Spanish skills, if you go out of Parque Lleras (I was really luck when I met my girl there), if you do as some wrote, do some day game, in the parks, commercial centers, etc. , you will find something.

I wish I could PM you.

I have a question though: If I do subscribe to be able to send a PM to someone that as not subscribed, will he be able to read my message / answer me?

I plan. And have already written a message I will sen to her after like 4/5 days without any message. I will share it to the community. And yes, I know, I should go on and maybe just never write her again. But this is difficult and you know it.

I am pretty sure this is what I want to tell her but if there is something that you so disagree with, please feel free. I hope I don't sound like a drama queen and I so much appreciate your guys support, will never write it enough. There you go:

Hey xxxx.

I will write in English because I know your level is good enough. I also want you to feel what it is when you are not sure to understand someone, like when you got frustrated because I wouldn't understand your Spanish.

I wanted to give you some time to clear your her head, put your ideas back in place. Some time so that you could think back with 'rationality' about everything that happened in your life since I met you.

Now that I think again about the time we had together, I can write I enjoyed it so much to go in el Eje Cafetero together. I enjoyed to see you so happy to be living this trip. I think I have brought something positive and nice in your life.

Unfortunately, the very few times I started to like a girl in my life, I always end up fucking things up. XXX, I am too emotional, too passionate, I always have to express my sentiments. I showed too much my neediness and wish for a relation and this killed the initial passion between us. I think 'the flame' is gone now. Damn, I even cried in front of you. I am ashamed. But that is how I am.

I honestly wish I would be one of this many guys that never seem to have any sentiments or express them. I wish I could be able to not start to feel sentiments when having sex with a fantastic girl like you are. Or a liar, just playing a game, to make sure that you get as crazy of me as possible, even if I do not care about you, even if all I wanted was sex with you. Would you have preferred that?

Before our trip, you told me a few amazing things that maybe no girl before ever told me. ([blue][Non-English text deleted by Admin][/blue]).

I got a bit crazy in my head and went to this trip with too much expectations.

XXX. I have been thinking so much about you since we hugged and said 'adios' in the bus terminal. I miss you a lot.

BUT, also, I have realized that 'sin darte cuenta', you really played with me!

Before the trip, you should have been honest with me and telling me that 'it was only vacations con derechos', to 'have fun times', like really good friends, with nothing more to expect because you were in love with another guy!! For me, it would have been fine! I still would have gone with you and we still would have had good times! You probably wouldn't end up not wanting to make love with me any more like it happened.

I can't believe we could have had all the moments we had together before our Eje Cafetero trip, all the smiles, beautiful moments, complicity, trust and beautiful sex. I think you were honest about this times. But at the same time, you were with another guy? You really played and manipulated me. Even if you did not realize it!

And don't tell me you are still young and still want to see a lot of guys / girls, that you are free. You just met this Colombian guy 2 months ago, you spent little time with him, and all you show to him seemed to me like love, passion, craziness, a wish to be in a relation, etc. No, XXX, you are not free! You are like almost everyone! You want to feel love, to feel good, to have someone to take care about you, to make you feel like you are the most beautiful person in the world, you want to be happy. Happy!

I really hope that this guy is not playing with you because honestly, you should try to think with rationality, not with passion. He is 36 years old, always lived in Medellin, and he has never been able to find the women of his life? How can you think you could be different for him? How can you think this will finish well? I really hope for you that you won't suffer from this. I really hope you will be strong. Not like the 2 first time you were in love.

Actually: I really hope that you will stop to be like me! Too passionate in love. Too much sentiments. Too much questions.

And do not compare me with him please. Yes, I have 32 years old but I have travelled all the world, I am living in different countries for 7 years, etc. When I will be lucky enough to find real love and a city / country where I will find happiness, I will just stay. Medellin?

XXX, Yes, I still want to see you so much. But I know you are. Dangerous for me. YES, I miss so much your beautiful smile, I miss to see you laugh, I miss to feel your body next to me. But at the same time, I know you are making me too crazy. XXX, I wish I could be forever your very best friend and be stronger than the risks this involve because as I told you once: [blue][Non-English text deleted by Admin][/blue]'.

I still want to see you but life goes on. I do not want to forget you but if this is what has to happen, it is fine for me. Whatever happen, once again, I hope you find happiness and stability in your life.

Blabla (personal joke about her father LOL.).

Cheers guys.

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[QUOTE=JayBalanty;1857462]Hello Gentlemen,

New to this part of the forum. I have extensive reviews and stories over in the Puerto Plata DR section, but have never ventured over to Colombia.

I am thinking about my first trip here at the end of May or June, however I have a few questions.

First off this would be my first trip to Medellin or Colombia for that matter, I am a vet in the DR with an uncountable trips under my belt. When I go to the DR I am looking for relaxation,
and a very chill environment. That is why I usually go to Sosua for the first day or two, then wind up going to Black Beards for about 5. That combo works for me.
When I land I party, HARD, then after two days of that I am ready for the vacation to start.

All that being said, I have done some research about the Mansion here in Medellin, which to my understanding is the Hotel Medellin Plaza. I am curious if any of you fine gentlemen have ever.
Been to Blackbeards and the mansion, are they similar? Is one better than the other, could you give me any info on it in regards to comparisons?..[/QUOTE]I just recently returned from my first trip to Medellin and stayed at the Mansion (M2) which is up a big hill from the M1 the main place. I would suggest to try to stay at M1 because of the hill. Also the girls hang out at the pool and bar at M1. Like you I've always gone to the DR for the last 5 years or so, with many trips to BB and Field of Dreams. I got GFE from all the mansion girls for 150 K (3200/$1), so about $50. It's similar to BB, but the girls have no schedule. So you can have as few as 3 or as many as 20 there. They come in and out as they please. The girls in Medellin are hotter than the DR. Also I usually visited casas in the AM and they are cheap from 45 K to 140 K of the ones we visited. Also Medellin is a modern city unlike the 3rd world DR.

Killarmy,

Please don't write that letter. You definitely sound like a drama queen and pathetic. If you write such a letter to her, she will think you super pathetic, and she will show it to all her friends, maybe facebook friends, her circle, etc just for fun as.

The most pathetic guy she has ever met. That letter is quite pathetic in my opinion. I have a better suggestion. I know you are urging to talk to her since you wrote that you will contact her in 3-4 days which is a lot to you, but that is.

Too early to contact her. It is best to ignore her, but not for a couple of days, and instead ignore her for a couple of years. Just delete her whattapp, unfriendly her on facebook, etc. And don't contact her at all.

You will be surprised of how she may react with this approach and just watch her reaction and possible desperation once she sees you don't want anything with her. And don't respond or explain anything. She may become as pathetic and.

Infatuated as you. If she asks you what's going on, or why you don't call, just ignore. If you respond, a one liner is enough, like you are busy and not the 5000 words essay of explanations.

Also if you decide to respond, do it after a few months or more. Don't explain anything to her. Never tell her you miss her. Learn to be rude. Believe me she may start going crazy once you start treating her like.

Shit. Learn to be inconsiderate. Learn to be unattached. Keep mongering and having pussy fun. Be realistic with yourself. You are not ready for a relationship just like many of us.

You failed badly the Paisa relationship 101 class. Just get back to mongering and prepare for next time.

Subscribe just for PM me?

I'm dgear on youppie.

Completely agree with Cerebro, don't do this letter at a colombian girl and she will be completely close.

The thing about you show your sentiments, it's not a problem generally. Just she's 22. It will no same with a more of 25 yo girls who want serious relationship.

[QUOTE=KillArmy;1857556]Guys,

Thanks a lot for all the amazing messages. I feel in the limit of stupidity when writing so much in here but all your reactions are so nice, not judgmental, etc. , I really appreciate it. Even better if some can learn out of my story.

This will and really is helping me. I will come back to read some of your guys whenever I feel bad again (like this morning.) to make me feel up again. So much to be learned.

'Learn to be sure to understand the signs a girl is showing to you before you do anything crazy about her'. [/QUOTE]Check out Tom Leykis Show. He is a no holds barred radio personality with a shitload of YouTube podcasts that might shock you back into learning to love yourself 1st before you love another. Coach Corey Wayne is another one with a lot of You Tube podcasts that may help you see how you are going in the wrong direction as a man.

It's seems obvious you are very emotionally attached to that female. You don't know what to do, except go by your impulses. Your impulse is go by your feelings. Which is maintaining the bleeding instead of helping you learn the lesson, and move on. Especially with the intent of never allowing yourself to stoop so low as a man again. Be honest with yourself. What do you expect to accomplish by contacting her? And why shame her for her behavior?

This is the time for you to take responsibility for your behavior and what you allowed, and for being blind. She's allowed to be as fucked up as she chooses to be. She's not obligated to meet your expectations. You are supposed to know how to carry yourself as an individual, and as a man. And if you missed some lessons in how a man adapts to situations appropriately, its time to recognize this possibility. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1857723]Check out Tom Leykis Show. He is a no holds barred radio personality with a shitload of YouTube podcasts that might shock you back into learning to love yourself 1st before you love another. Coach Corey Wayne is another one with a lot of You Tube podcasts that may help you see how you are going in the wrong direction as a man.[/QUOTE]I used to listen to Tom Lykis radio show a lot. He was funny, witty, and he knew quite a bit about women. It looks like he no longer does radio shows. I will check his podcasts. Never heard of Corey Wayne, will check him out. Thanks.

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;1857674]I just recently returned from my first trip to Medellin and stayed at the Mansion (M2) which is up a big hill from the M1 the main place. I would suggest to try to stay at M1 because of the hill. Also the girls hang out at the pool and bar at M1. Like you I've always gone to the DR for the last 5 years or so, with many trips to BB and Field of Dreams. I got GFE from all the mansion girls for 150 K (3200/$1), so about $50. It's similar to BB, but the girls have no schedule. So you can have as few as 3 or as many as 20 there. They come in and out as they please. The girls in Medellin are hotter than the DR. Also I usually visited casas in the AM and they are cheap from 45 K to 140 K of the ones we visited. Also Medellin is a modern city unlike the 3rd world DR.[/QUOTE]You listed all the drawbacks of M2, but none of the benefits. You must be a newbie. I prefer M2 over M1. First, the hill is not a big deal and I look at it as my daily exercise. It's correct that more girls hangout at M1 (the Mansion) but someone staying t M2 can go down to M1 anytime. The advantages of M2? Quiet and discreet. Many girls prefer M2 because of that. And M1 can really be noisy, if you get a room close to the bar or close to the pool.

Are you that big of a fool? You've received a lot of excellent advice from several people. Did you fail to understand? Did you even read any of the advice?

Nowhere in all of the advice did any say "Go crying and begging to her like a 5 year old boy and then blame everything on her. " Not only is your plan incredibly stupid, it's pathetic.

This woman gave you very clear signals that she has no interest in a relationship. The only way she could have made it clearer was to scream, "I don't want a relationship with you. " When you tried to force her into a relationship she made it even clearer and just gave you a couple of hand jobs so you would stop crying.

To make everything worse, you're trying to blame her about a relationship with some other guy, when it's none of your business, because she doesn't want a relationship with you.

Nothing you do is going to change the obvious fact (repeated again) She Doesn't Want A Relationship With You. However, go ahead with your plan (which sounds like something dreamed up by a 13 year old). It won't accomplish anything, but everyone she fucks for the next 5 years will laugh their ass off when she tells them about you.

Or, here's an idea. Why not act like an adult, accept your loss and move on? There are 1000's of women in Medellin who will be more than happy to give you something else to think about.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1857734]I used to listen to Tom Lykis radio show a lot. He was funny, witty, and he knew quite a bit about women. It looks like he no longer does radio shows. I will check his podcasts. Never heard of Corey Wayne, will check him out. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Tom Leykis still has his show on his website and his app. Google his name or "blow me up Tom". I've been listening to Tom over ten years. Every man needs to, especially guys who are hopeless romantics. It'll save you a lot of pain and you'll learn how to treat a woman and how not to.

To the guy with the girl problem: you should never cry in front of a girl, you loose all her respect. Remember, girls like to be fucked by he bad boys, eventually they'll settle down with the reliable nice guy to pay their way through life. Who do you want to be? The sucker she settles for or the dude she lusts after?

[QUOTE=KillArmy;1857556]I really hope that this guy is not playing with you because honestly, [b]you should try to think with rationality, not with passion[/b]. He is 36 years old, always lived in Medellin, and he has never been able to find the women of his life? How can you think you could be different for him? How can you think this will finish well? I really hope for you that you won't suffer from this. I really hope you will be strong. Not like the 2 first time you were in love.

[b]Actually: I really hope that you will stop to be like me! Too passionate in love. Too much sentiments. Too much questions.[/b]

XXX, Yes, I still want to see you so much. But I know you are. Dangerous for me. YES, I miss so much your beautiful smile, I miss to see you laugh, I miss to feel your body next to me. But at the same time, I know you are making me too crazy. XXX, I wish I could be forever your very best friend and be stronger than the risks this involve because as I told you once: [Non-English text deleted by Admin]'.

I still want to see you but life goes on. I do not want to forget you but if this is what has to happen, it is fine for me. Whatever happen, once again, I hope you find happiness and stability in your life.[/QUOTE]KillArmy, aside from other parts of your post, this is difficult to read. I feel kinda sorry for you. You tell her that she should try to think rationally, not with passion. Something you failed to do for yourself. Then you tell her actually, you wish she would think more like yourself, too passionate. You don't see the masked desperation ooozing out of your words? Pretending to be fine, and dandy with the way things turned out. But broadcasting that you will set everything aside, if she decides to throw you a bone. And giving her all of this information about how you feel about her blah blah blah. Expressing how she manipulated you ect. You don't see anything weak or pathetic about any of this? You don't care about how this makes you look? Not only to her, but to yourself? IMO, the only way you may transform yourself into an aware male is not necessarily to chase women, monger or avoid this woman. You need to get yourself together 1st. Anything else is a distraction from you learning and reinforcing the discipline of manhood.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1857723]Check out Tom Leykis Show. He is a no holds barred radio personality with a shitload of YouTube podcasts that might shock you back into learning to love yourself 1st before you love another. Coach Corey Wayne is another one with a lot of You Tube podcasts that may help you see how you are going in the wrong direction as a man.

It's seems obvious you are very emotionally attached to that female. You don't know what to do, except go by your impulses. Your impulse is go by your feelings. Which is maintaining the bleeding instead of helping you learn the lesson, and move on. Especially with the intent of never allowing yourself to stoop so low as a man again. Be honest with yourself. What do you expect to accomplish by contacting her? And why shame her for her behavior?

This is the time for you to take responsibility for your behavior and what you allowed, and for being blind. She's allowed to be as fucked up as she chooses to be. She's not obligated to meet your expectations. You are supposed to know how to carry yourself as an individual, and as a man. And if you missed some lessons in how a man adapts to situations appropriately, its time to recognize this possibility. Good luck.[/QUOTE]As the saying goes. If you love her set her free. If she comes back she's yours. I agree you should drop it and chase the millions of other tarts out there. As someone else here said, just see what you can get into. Put your energy into having fun. When I visit these places I just see how much fun I can get into, and whatever happens happens. A short while ago I picked up a chica in sportsman lodge. Ended up liking her and doing several weekend trips to Jaco. But when things got strained in the relationship, I said next. Don't get attached. Just see what you can get into.

Guys,

Thanks again. I won't send that, yes, I guess, pathetic message.

Your guys, with cold head, are right, it's pathetic to start blaming things on her etc, it's her life, she does whatever she wants, and yes, she made it clear she didn't want a relation with me.

I will just not write her anything and. I must admit, hope she will write to me. I will then be cold as hell. Be like 'I am to see someone else tonight, bla bla' and see how things goes. I think it's the only clever thing to do, to let her come to me.

Something that pisses me though, is some facts:

- I made an album in my Facebook wall, almost only with landscapes, etc, just 2/3 pictures of us. She shared it to her wall writing something like 'A few days full of lessons with an incredible person'. She. Deleted the sharing of the album after like 2 hours!

- In her Whatsapp, she puts citations that are, IMHO, clearly aimed at me. Some stuff from Mario Benedetti like 'Maybe he really liked me, who knows, but what is sure is that he had some special ability to hurt me'. She also had an image of a citation saying basically 'what is ours? A complicity, a shared secret, a pact. Not a future marriage or anything. But much more than friendship' .

- If she really wants it, she will write me. If she does not care, she will not. End of the game.

I apologize for looking like I didn't read all your clever advices guys. I did.

Now, it's time to move on. She is not the only one in this planet and, actually, I plan to see a girl almost every night during this week (including one from Bello I have already fucked). This is the best cure.

Cheers to all of you guys.

[QUOTE=BatInTheCity;1857890]As the saying goes. If you love her set her free. If she comes back she's yours. I agree you should drop it and chase the millions of other tarts out there. As someone else here said, just see what you can get into. Put your energy into having fun. When I visit these places I just see how much fun I can get into, and whatever happens happens. A short while ago I picked up a chica in sportsman lodge. Ended up liking her and doing several weekend trips to Jaco. But when things got strained in the relationship, I said next. Don't get attached. Just see what you can get into.[/QUOTE]Ordinarily, ID agree with that strategy. But changing partners or avoiding that woman won't solve his problem. For him its like jumping out of one frying pan into another. He still hasnt escaped himself.

Back to the subject of mongering in Medellin; ya know the good thing about mongering is that you DO NOT have to make an emotional investment in the women.

I am going to be in Medellin from April 12- April 15 on my first visit. Obviously, not a lot of time, so I want to be efficient with it. The Medellin forum has been awesome to read, not just for the details of the women, but the options on accommodations. I'm delighted at all the options available to the monger, not to mention the low price points for service. The options you guys have mentioned here have been exciting, but I'm not completely clear on how they all rank on a price / quality / value scale. I'm assuming I don't want start Day 1 with an upscale stunning chica, and then start trolling for streetwalker, right?

I'd like some suggestions on how to "ramp up" or consistently "upgrade" my mongering experience. That is, make each experience with the next girl better than the last one, by upgrading the quality and presumably the price. I want to start out with some girl on the low end, then try some nicer venue, and finally try an upscale chica or brothel. Of course, price is no guarantee of quality and for all I know some trollop off the street can be the funnest thing to happen in my life. But, I think you guys know where I going with this. I await your suggestions. TIA.

[QUOTE=KillArmy;1857914]Something that pisses me though, is some facts:

- I made an album in my Facebook wall, almost only with landscapes, etc, just 2/3 pictures of us. She shared it to her wall writing something like 'A few days full of lessons with an incredible person'. She. Deleted the sharing of the album after like 2 hours!
[/QUOTE]Okay now I think this guy is bullshitting us. No guy is going to do girl shit like that. Definitely sounds like something from a 13 year old GIRL. I have been heartbroken before and I have even cried over a woman before. But putting your business out on facebook like that, especially over someone who does not give a rat's ass about you is on a bi*ch level. Also, It is really weird to me when women splice our pictures together and send it to me or put it on their whatsapp.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1857936]Okay now I think this guy is bullshitting us. No guy is going to do girl shit like that. Definitely sounds like something from a 13 year old GIRL. It is really weird to me when women splice our pictures together and send it to me or put it on their whatsapp.[/QUOTE]No, I am definitely not bullshiting any one.

I just wanted to share my pictures to my Facebook friends and family, with 0 words about her, just with comments about Manizales, Pereira, Salento (etc) what I visited, saw, etc. I think it was completely normal to do that. She shared my album in her own wall for a few hours, with some really nice words towards me. Then deleted it for some reason. She is completely fucked up.

The Whatsapp things are something else. I did not personally post anything, but she seems to put image / citations etc. That are clearly meant towards me in her Whatsapp Profile page.

It just pisses me.

My English isn't perfect, might explain some things.

I will stick to what I wrote in my previous post and once again, all of your comments are gold. Thanks.

(And sorry to be a bit trolling the mongering subject.).

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1857935]I'd like some suggestions on how to "ramp up" or consistently "upgrade" my mongering experience. That is, make each experience with the next girl better than the last one, by upgrading the quality and presumably the price. I want to start out with some girl on the low end, then try some nicer venue, and finally try an upscale chica or brothel. Of course, price is no guarantee of quality and for all I know some trollop off the street can be the funnest thing to happen in my life. [/QUOTE]It looks like you are overthinking this shit. You can not make the next experience better than the last. You can not guarantee that with the same person; you damn sure can't guarantee it with two different people in two different venues. The second rule of mongering is Your Mileage May Vary. Just go have a good time and stop trying to strategize the shit.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1857942]It looks like you are overthinking this shit. You can not make the next experience better than the last. You can not guarantee that with the same person; you damn sure can't guarantee it with two different people in two different venues. The second rule of mongering is Your Mileage May Vary. Just go have a good time and stop trying to strategize the shit.[/QUOTE]Nailed it. Often results don't match expectations. One of my better experiences was with a woman I never would have picked, except I gave a maybe to her friend the night before. What she lacked in looks she made up for with performance. I've also had 10's turn into 2's when it got down to business.

There's no way to guarantee what he's looking for, especially on a first trip. On a short trip it's a recipe for disaster. If he tries, for example, streetwalker the first night, casa the second and top shelf escort the third. The streetwalker cheap and no big deal, about as expected. At the casa he picks the wrong girl (s), look good, perform bad, the streetwalker was better. Last night, spends the big money on an escort. She shows up late, in a bad mood, wants to upsells everything, makes him pay more than he spent on either of the other nights and leaves without doing anything.

Decide what you like, and focus on that. Try for the best time every time. Keep your eyes open for unexpected opportunities. Don't worry about comparing each experience, just enjoy them.

[QUOTE=Combo;1855054]An well-educated Paisa might appreciate you using proper espanol, but the prepagos, taxistas, et al don't give a shit. For the most part, they don't use anything close to correct Spanish.[/QUOTE]I agree which makes it tougher to learn Spanish coming in cold and surrounding yourself with prepagos and taxistas which is what normally what happens. Thanks for all the support and for the guys coming in light on experience or Spanish we're here to give you a hand with tours and Girlfriend experience dates so you don't have to go in cold and unable to communicate. Helped a guy last week before going home to get married see everything from casas to parachute flying and exploring the pueblo called San Feliz! One of the most beautiful places I've explored! If your coming for a short period of time I've got a lot of adventure waiting for you to experience as well as beautiful Girls to plat with and go out and Reggaeton dance with which anyone can do! [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ooNtILjKQ0[/URL].

Just look up my handle!

Thanks,

Colombia Jake.

Any places in Medellin like Club Help in Rio or Sportsman's / Del Rey in CR where you can meet prepagos in a social setting. Not into the casa scene. Me and mi amigos are looking to party in our apartments. Hablo un poco espanol.

Or like a girl in Rio told me "of course I speak English, I'm a prostitute! So maybe a little Spanish is OK.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1857935]
I'd like some suggestions on how to "ramp up" or consistently "upgrade" my mongering experience. That is, make each experience with the next girl better than the last one, by upgrading the quality and presumably the price. I want to start out with some girl on the low end, then try some nicer venue, and finally try an upscale chica or brothel. Of course, price is no guarantee of quality and for all I know some trollop off the street can be the funnest thing to happen in my life. But, I think you guys know where I going with this. I await your suggestions. TIA.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with the last replies. There is no way to guarantee and upgrade. But what do you mean by upgrade? Looks, sex, GFE? If its looks just find what you are looking for and then pay the price but other than that you just have to take your chances and see what kind of chemistry you may develop before you commit.

I'm fresh back from SXM and I experienced all three levels if you will. The one that I was super hot appearing was, for me, the worst performer. The least visually appealing one that I was with was actually the top first time performer in the cama. As for GFE my repeat amiga was of course the best.

My best suggestion is go out and go with the flow. In this hobby I have found you can't plan for a perfect outing. If it happens it just seems to happen. If it doesn't with one, move on to the next.

[QUOTE=TicaToj;1858001]Any places in Medellin like Club Help in Rio or Sportsman's / Del Rey in CR where you can meet prepagos in a social setting. Not into the casa scene. Me and mi amigos are looking to party in our apartments. Hablo un poco espanol.

Or like a girl in Rio told me "of course I speak English, I'm a prostitute! So maybe a little Spanish is OK.[/QUOTE]No places like that as Medellin is different in some regards. Not better, not worse (for mongering) just different.

Go and have fun!

The Tall Man.

Hey guys,

No more drama though! But 2 rather simple questions:

- In your world, for a relatively young dude, with almost perfect Spanish, is Colombian Cupid really worth the money for a 1 month or 3 months subscription? (I find it quite expensive) Someone told me he had like 7 girls in 2 months using it. Seemed interesting!

- What is the difference between LatinamericanCupid and ColombianCupid. If LatinAmericanCupid has all the girls from ColombianCupid for the same price, I guess it makes no sense to subscribe in ColombianCupid?

Thanks in advance for your answers.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;1857206]Hmmmm. Spending time, money, and energy taking another man's girlfriend seems like the height of self loathing: a metaphor for alpha fucks and beta bucks.[/QUOTE]-"Alpha fucks, beta bucks"

-"Shit tests"

-"Blue Pill"

Looks like we hang out in the same (TRP) Reddit forum brother! :-P

Nice write up. Imagine that guy's vacation if this was an American Woman instead. It's funny if you browse the dating profiles these days. All these broke bitches have "love to travel" stuffed somewhere in there. I've even had a couple of broads start a conversation with "do you have a passport?"

It will be a cold day in hell before I let a debt-ridden Thunder-Cunt™ trick me into taking her Psychology/Education/Criminal Justice degree-having-ass with me on a vacation; even if she agreed to pay her own way! ESPECIALLY if she agreed to pay her own way. Like Admiral Akbar yelled in Return of the Jedi: "Its a trap!"

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1858499]-"Alpha fucks, beta bucks"

-"Shit tests"

-"Blue Pill"

Looks like we hang out in the same (TRP) Reddit forum brother! :-P

[/QUOTE]Not on Reddit. Just been getting into the MGTOW websites and YouTube videos.

Last piece of advice for our lovelorn member of F at ck Club.

* She is not "your girl. " It is merely "your turn. " *.

Learn to enjoy "your turn. ".

[QUOTE=KillArmy;1858488]Hey guys,

No more drama though! But 2 rather simple questions:

- In your world, for a relatively young dude, with almost perfect Spanish, is Colombian Cupid really worth the money for a 1 month or 3 months subscription? (I find it quite expensive) Someone told me he had like 7 girls in 2 months using it. Seemed interesting!

- What is the difference between LatinamericanCupid and ColombianCupid. If LatinAmericanCupid has all the girls from ColombianCupid for the same price, I guess it makes no sense to subscribe in ColombianCupid?

Thanks in advance for your answers.[/QUOTE]I had luck with Colombian Cupid but a lot of girls take 2-3 days to respond. Gotten 3 girls in 1 week. If I had to do it all over, I would work on the girls 2-3 weeks in advance before I arrive. To a point I just flat out ask if they play for pesos. The legit ones will respond. Usual response is 200 pesos plus taxi. A little pricey but they come to your hotel. 2 were real good and 1 sucked. More like stunk. I had to drag her to the shower to clean her off.

I also had luck with backpage. Still pricier but didn't seem rushed. I was happy with 2 from the same agency.

[URL]http://medellin.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/valery-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]-ardiente_319-361-80-43/3277014[/URL]

I was getting annoyed because I get some poor service in those brothels 2 times I went. Coming from Angeles City and Bangkok, it was pretty tough if you can't speak Spanish.

[QUOTE=KillArmy;1858488]Hey guys,

No more drama though! But 2 rather simple questions:

- In your world, for a relatively young dude, with almost perfect Spanish, is Colombian Cupid really worth the money for a 1 month or 3 months subscription? (I find it quite expensive) Someone told me he had like 7 girls in 2 months using it. Seemed interesting!

- What is the difference between LatinamericanCupid and ColombianCupid. If LatinAmericanCupid has all the girls from ColombianCupid for the same price, I guess it makes no sense to subscribe in ColombianCupid?

Thanks in advance for your answers.[/QUOTE]Columbian Cupid is meant to be just women from Colombia. Latin American Cupid is open to girls from any Latin American country. They are completely separate sites. You won't find girls from CC on LAC. Whichever one they sign up on is where the profile stays.

Is it worth it? Depends on how you approach it. I'd suggest sticking with CC at first.

Put up a couple good pictures. Don't try to impress to much. You don't need to pose with a Lamborghini. Just pictures of you.

Fill out the profile completely. Once again, don't try too hard. Just be honest about yourself. When it comes to what you are looking for, don't be too specific. You want everyone to think you want what they want. Keep it light. You want smiles and laughs.

A lot of the messages you receive will be spam. They are easy to spot. Most are long messages and include an email address, usually at Yahoo. You should get quite a few messages after paying the subscription. Most will be available for sex. The ones looking for a relationship you will have to contact first.

If you work it right you can see a different girl every night.

[QUOTE=KillArmy;1858488]Hey guys,

No more drama though! But 2 rather simple questions:

- In your world, for a relatively young dude, with almost perfect Spanish, is Colombian Cupid really worth the money for a 1 month or 3 months subscription? (I find it quite expensive) Someone told me he had like 7 girls in 2 months using it. Seemed interesting!

- What is the difference between LatinamericanCupid and ColombianCupid. If LatinAmericanCupid has all the girls from ColombianCupid for the same price, I guess it makes no sense to subscribe in ColombianCupid?

Thanks in advance for your answers.[/QUOTE]Yeah I had a couple Novia's from ColombianCupid.

The platinum is worth it, but you have to put in work to get results.

Make sure you take good photos, also having your main photo of you in a suit seems to be the golden ticket to getting more messages sent to you.

It's like 1/3 spam, 1/3 non responders, 1/3 prepagos and then the rest are real actual girlfriend material.

But dude, you have to look at something.

You are on a forum where we pay for it upfront, you shouldn't be taking relatioship advice from us!!

You have FRESH wounds from a paisa that did a number on you. Just go to the gym and work on yourself man, She depleted all your self esteem supply. You have to rebuild and focus on you. Maybe work on more launages and shit. You'll be ok.

[QUOTE=Doinky;1858541]I had luck with Colombian Cupid but a lot of girls take 2-3 days to respond. Gotten 3 girls in 1 week. If I had to do it all over, I would work on the girls 2-3 weeks in advance before I arrive. To a point I just flat out ask if they play for pesos. The legit ones will respond. Usual response is 200 pesos plus taxi. A little pricey but they come to your hotel. 2 were real good and 1 sucked. More like stunk. I had to drag her to the shower to clean her off.

I also had luck with backpage. Still pricier but didn't seem rushed. I was happy with 2 from the same agency.

[URL]http://medellin.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/valery-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]-ardiente_319-361-80-43/3277014[/URL]

I was getting annoyed because I get some poor service in those brothels 2 times I went. Coming from Angeles City and Bangkok, it was pretty tough if you can't speak Spanish.[/QUOTE]Wow, I learn something everyday. I never knew that BP was in Colombia. Thanks!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;1858857]Wow, I learn something everyday. I never knew that BP was in Colombia. Thanks!

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]BP and Craigslist both, but CL pickings are kind of thin.

[URL]http://co.mileroticos.com/colombia/[/URL]

Anyone have luck with this??

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1858860]BP and Craigslist both, but CL pickings are kind of thin.[/QUOTE]

Hi gents,

I'll be visiting Medellin for my first time in the near future and as luck would have it, I'm not on a budget. I was wondering if there are any high-end pre-pagados, clubs or services that you might recommend? Any specific lady suggestions would also be most appreciated. Feel free to PM me if you like.

Thanks in advance for such a great service and happy mongering.

MrZ

Hi gents,

I will be visiting Medellin soon and as luck would have it, I can treat myself and not worry about budget. So I've searched through about 10 pages of the Medellin forum and I've found many great tips but none geared for a person that is looking for the ultimate visit.

So I'm looking for suggestions of high-end pre-pagados, clubs or escort services. Pointers for ladies that fit the bill would also be super helpful. Feel free to PM me.

Also, I realize you might be thinking, 'what a sucker, doesn't he know that he doesn't need to spend $$ in order to have a great time?" And the answer is yes, but experience has taught me that you lessen the margin for a bad time if you splurge. Sure, it's not a slam dunk but it raises the odds.

Thanks all and happy mongering.

MrZ

[QUOTE=MrzLow416;1858991]Also, I realize you might be thinking, 'what a sucker, doesn't he know that he doesn't need to spend $$ in order to have a great time?" And the answer is yes, but experience has taught me that you lessen the margin for a bad time if you splurge. Sure, it's not a slam dunk but it raises the odds.[/QUOTE]I don't think it raises the odds for anything. I am a cheapskate when it comes to hookers and I have never had a bad time in Medellin. But if you do want to splurge then now is the time, while the peso is low. I never would have stepped into Fase 2 when it was 1600 to $1. But when it went to 3400 I splurged like you said to see what I was missing. Let's just say even at today's exchange I would not be upset if I never stepped foot in the place again.

How do you price pussy? In the soapys in Thailand they have a tier system. Girls with a blue badge cost a certain amount and girls with a red badge cost more. Hell, I can't tell how they decided why the red ones cost more. (I would say it is plain marketing. People think it costs more so it must be better.) And I even believe those broads switch badges with each other on certain days.

[QUOTE=MrzLow416;1858981]Hi gents,

I'll be visiting Medellin for my first time in the near future and as luck would have it, I'm not on a budget. I was wondering if there are any high-end pre-pagados, clubs or services that you might recommend? Any specific lady suggestions would also be most appreciated. Feel free to PM me if you like.

Thanks in advance for such a great service and happy mongering.

MrZ[/QUOTE]Let me try to fill the gap in your understanding. Over the past 11 months you have posted 4 times, two of them today, asking for recommendations. And this time you're saying thanks "for a great service. ".

This isn't a service. It's not free monger customer support. If it was we would all be living in Pakistan and every post would begin with "Hello my friend. How will I be happy to service you today?" This is a community, a collection of people from all over the world, who travel the world, experiencing what is available and sharing their experiences to benefit the community.

You have an unlimited budget for a trip to Medellin (which seems a strange choice for an unlimited budget), but you haven't been able to get laid once, find a hotel, restaurant or club or anything to report on, since last April?

I'm more than willing to provide a "service" to help you find the most expensive Prepagos, clubs and hotels in Medellin, or anywhere in the world. My service isn't cheap, but results are guaranteed. For an additional fee I'll even come to Medellin and provide on site assistance. Once again, it doesn't come cheap, but you're not on a budget, so I'm certain it's affordable. You can pm for rates.

Or you can stop being a lazy leech, do some research, and give a few reviews of your experiences.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1858875][URL]http://co.mileroticos.com/colombia/[/URL]

Anyone have luck with this??[/QUOTE]I used it in Bogota and found a nice time. Did not try it in Medellin.

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[QUOTE=KillArmy;1857139]Hello everyone,

First of all: this is not a typical post in here I would say. Sorry for it to be quite long too.......
Cheers guys.[/QUOTE]Sorry I am a few days tardy to the party but here is my. 02.

Well that sucked.

Just a couple things to remember women; especially young (like 22) tend to be very temperamental. Yeah young guys are all over the map too but women are worse.

They will be celibate for 3 years and at the drop of the dime decide to be promiscuous for the next 10. They will "turn lesbian" and write men off one day then change their mind and turn straight.

You really can't take anything they say about a relationship seriously. Well unless they say they are trying to get preggo. If they say that they are probably serious.

Another thing is I am sure you have heard the phrase "A fool in love" the reason you have heard it is because its true LOL. When someone is infatuated / in love you are not thinking properly and will make very bad decisions.

You will glide over obvious clues that would normally tip you off to bad situations. It happens to the best of us. The best thing to do when you have this feeling is to 1. What you did here by asking the opinion of others not involved 2. Take a step back.

And watch the situation play out.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1857723]Check out Tom Leykis Show. He is a no holds barred radio personality with a shitload of YouTube podcasts that might shock you back into learning to love yourself 1st before you love another. .[/QUOTE]I'm a podcast junkie thanks for this. I've now added Leykis in rotation.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1857679]Killarmy,

Please don't write that letter. You definitely sound like a drama queen and pathetic. If you write such a letter to her, she will think you super pathetic, and she will show it to all her friends, maybe facebook friends, her circle, etc just for fun as.

The most pathetic guy she has ever met. That letter is quite pathetic in my opinion. I have a better suggestion. ....[/QUOTE]+1 x 1000.

Don't write that letter.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1857935]Back to the subject of mongering in Medellin; ya know the good thing about mongering is that you DO NOT have to make an emotional investment in the women.

I am going to be in Medellin from April 12- April 15 on my first visit. Obviously, not a lot of time, so I want to be efficient with it. The Medellin forum has been awesome to read, not just for the details of the women, but the options on accommodations. I'm delighted at all the options available to the monger, not to mention the low price points for service. The options you guys have mentioned here have been exciting, but I'm not completely clear on how they all rank on a price / quality / value scale. I'm assuming I don't want start Day 1 with an upscale stunning chica, and then start trolling for streetwalker, right?

I'd like some suggestions on how to "ramp up" or consistently "upgrade" my mongering experience. That is, make each experience with the next girl better than the last one, by upgrading the quality and presumably the price. I want to start out with some girl on the low end, then try some nicer venue, and finally try an upscale chica or brothel. Of course, price is no guarantee of quality and for all I know some trollop off the street can be the funnest thing to happen in my life. But, I think you guys know where I going with this. I await your suggestions. TIA.[/QUOTE]You touched on it.

Others nailed it.

There is really no way to tell what experience you will have with a girl till you are have had the experience with the girl.

Location the girl is in has little to nothing to do with her service.

You could go on your maiden voyage and determine some upscale order simply to return a week later trying to repeat it and fail.

I do the spaghetti against the wall approach every time. Go everywhere and see what sticks.

The only time I deviate from this is if I go to a place and fin 70% + of the women there unattractive or not my speed.

In those cases I don't bother trying again to find a gem. To many other options in MDE.

Good luck on your trip men.

[QUOTE=KillArmy;1857914]Guys,

Now, it's time to move on. She is not the only one in this planet and, actually, I plan to see a girl almost every night during this week (including one from Bello I have already fucked). This is the best cure.

Cheers to all of you guys.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't deleted her from your F-List so soon. You can use her to make you even stronger. Don't let her break you will. You got some really good advice from guys here on the guide.

You should also share her contact info with the boys.

[QUOTE=MrzLow416;1858991]Hi gents,

I will be visiting Medellin soon and as luck would have it, I can treat myself and not worry about budget. So I've searched through about 10 pages of the Medellin forum and I've found many great tips but none geared for a person that is looking for the ultimate visit.

So I'm looking for suggestions of high-end pre-pagados, clubs or escort services. Pointers for ladies that fit the bill would also be super helpful. Feel free to PM me.

Also, I realize you might be thinking, 'what a sucker, doesn't he know that he doesn't need to spend $$ in order to have a great time?" And the answer is yes, but experience has taught me that you lessen the margin for a bad time if you splurge. Sure, it's not a slam dunk but it raises the odds.

Thanks all and happy mongering.

MrZ[/QUOTE]Dude just go to the Mansion and / or Columbia Jake and write a report. Here's a pic of what it looks like. WTF?

I've been at the Mansion since Monday and I've only seen two girls I've been willing to give 150 k pesos to here. If I was on an unlimited budget, I sure as hell wouldn't be looking here (though I do enjoy the collegial atmosphere).

Might head out to Fase 2 or Linda's Chicas later. Those are two of the somewhat higher-budget options in MDE. A bit higher still are Loutron and la Isla.

BTW don't tell too many people you're on an unlimited budget. It's a good way to get yourself hurt. Come to think of it maybe I can help you out my friend.

[QUOTE=KillArmy;1858488]Hey guys,

No more drama though! But 2 rather simple questions:

- In your world, for a relatively young dude, with almost perfect Spanish, is Colombian Cupid really worth the money for a 1 month or 3 months subscription? (I find it quite expensive) Someone told me he had like 7 girls in 2 months using it. Seemed interesting!

- What is the difference between LatinamericanCupid and ColombianCupid. If LatinAmericanCupid has all the girls from ColombianCupid for the same price, I guess it makes no sense to subscribe in ColombianCupid?

Thanks in advance for your answers.[/QUOTE]I recently signed up LAC but I think both and CC are run by the same people. My login worked for both sites.

It's just that CC is more focused on girls that are in Colombia. I won't pay till I see interest. Sure I have a million inbox messages; but I am fairly convinced sure 90% is spam.

What I do is click the interested button on a profile. I think I can get a better idea of what is going on. When I do that the replies seem to be what I would normally expect.

Younger women tend to ignore it older hags view my profile. If I see at least 5 decent women show interest I'll pay.

[QUOTE=Doinky;1858541]I was getting annoyed because I get some poor service in those brothels 2 times I went. Coming from Angeles City and Bangkok, it was pretty tough if you can't speak Spanish.[/QUOTE]That's the one uncanny advantage those places have for those that don't speak any Spanish. While Medellin is a lot closer to the US the women don't speak English.

However all the way on the other side of the world I found a fair amount of working girls in Thailand and naturally (due to the American influence) Philippines speak English.

And its a dam good thing because Thai is a son of a ***** to learn.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1858875][URL]http://co.mileroticos.com/colombia/[/URL]

Anyone have luck with this??[/QUOTE]I have never tried it in Medellin but I tried it in Cali and had good results. Maybe it was beginners luck but on my 1st try my wing man and I had decent girls.

[QUOTE=Combo;1859408]I've been at the Mansion since Monday and I've only seen two girls I've been willing to give 150 k pesos to here. If I was on an unlimited budget, I sure as hell wouldn't be looking here (though I do enjoy the collegial atmosphere).

Might head out to Fase 2 or Linda's Chicas later. Those are two of the somewhat higher-budget options in MDE. A bit higher still are Loutron and la Isla.

BTW don't tell too many people you're on an unlimited budget. It's a good way to get yourself hurt. Come to think of it maybe I can help you out my friend.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the suggestions and I hear you on keeping a low profile.

This is Angie at New Life. She can be quite good, when she wants. She's put on a couple of pounds since these pics. The puta life can do that.

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1859375]I wouldn't deleted her from your F-List so soon. You can use her to make you even stronger. Don't let her break you will. You got some really good advice from guys here on the guide.

You should also share her contact info with the boys.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that always goes over really well.

Suddenly the girl, who according to the story, is absolutely not p4 p, starts getting hit up on Facebook and Whatsapp from guys saying "some really tall guy from Belgium posted your info to the internet. How much for TLN and do you do anal?

He'll be lucky if the guys she sends after him only decide to break a few bones.

Here's a little helpful tip:

Never share contact information unless all of the following conditions are met.

1. The girl is P4 P and has specifically asked you to pass the information on to your friends.

2. You only pass the information privately to a friend who you know and trust.

A complete stranger from the internet does not meet the second criteria.

This is so true! I often get guys wanting girls info. I always tell them first I have to ask the girl. When I do ask a girl and it's not often that I Will even ask. 9 times out of 10 they say no please don't do that. Because for what ever reason they liked me and can't say it would be same with different guy.

I don't usually even ask now. I just say I can't do that.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1860522]Yeah, that always goes over really well.

Suddenly the girl, who according to the story, is absolutely not p4 p, starts getting hit up on Facebook and Whatsapp from guys saying "some really tall guy from Belgium posted your info to the internet. How much for TLN and do you do anal?

He'll be lucky if the guys she sends after him only decide to break a few bones.

Here's a little helpful tip:

Never share contact information unless all of the following conditions are met.

1. The girl is P4 P and has specifically asked you to pass the information on to your friends.

2. You only pass the information privately to a friend who you know and trust.

A complete stranger from the internet does not meet the second criteria.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YouCan;1860560]This is so true! I often get guys wanting girls info. I always tell them first I have to ask the girl. When I do ask a girl and it's not often that I Will even ask. 9 times out of 10 they say no please don't do that. Because for what ever reason they liked me and can't say it would be same with different guy.

I don't usually even ask now. I just say I can't do that.[/QUOTE]It's not in your best to share contact info with anyone. There is no one more apt at fucking up a good thing than Westerners. Just look at places like San Jose, Sosua, Cuba, Haiti (NGOs), etc.

I've always told guys I can point them in the right direction of where to find the pussy, but I am not delivering the pussy on a silver platter.

I hooked a guy from the board up with one of my chicks in Thailand. I asked her permission beforehand. I don't know what happened but I never heard anything back from him and everytime I see her out and about she won't speak to me. Needless to say, those days are over. Like SavePros said though, I can still point you in the direction of all the pussy you can stand.

Guess they want more $$.

Whats the prices like in Caribbean.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1860696]Guess they want more $$.

Whats the prices like in Caribbean.[/QUOTE]That is nothing new. The girls you will fuck in Panama, Aruba, Curacao, St Marteen come from Colombia, DR, Venezuela, and other close by Latin-Caribbean countries. Of course they go for more money. I met a chick from Bogota in a club in Peru last week. I asked her how much and she said $150/HR. I started laughing. She said why are you laughing? I said because I can go to Santa Fe in Bogota for 35,000 pesos. She high-fived me and started laughing too.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1860707]That is nothing new. The girls you will fuck in Panama, Aruba, Curacao, St Marteen come from Colombia, DR, Venezuela, and other close by Latin-Caribbean countries. Of course they go for more money. I met a chick from Bogota in a club in Peru last week. I asked her how much and she said $150/HR. I started laughing. She said why are you laughing? I said because I can go to Santa Fe in Bogota for 35,000 pesos. She high-fived me and started laughing too.[/QUOTE]Usually the chicas that are considered pass their prime in their home country know they can go to another country and get a shit ton more mileage out of them before they are done. Mostly because those guys in other countries will pay just about anything to be with a Colombiana because it seems "exotic".

I know a few chicas personally that would be considered MILFS in Medellin (28 yrs old +) who spend time in Hong Kong and China to make money. They are still hot, but probably were "super hot" back in their prime (18-25). They can't compete with all the new chicas turning 18 yrs old every day, so they go abroad.

These chicas want $200 some more for 3 hours in Medellin.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1860743]Usually the chicas that are considered pass their prime in their home country know they can go to another country and get a shit ton more mileage out of them before they are done. Mostly because those guys in other countries will pay just about anything to be with a Colombiana because it seems "exotic".

I know a few chicas personally that would be considered MILFS in Medellin (28 yrs old +) who spend time in Hong Kong and China to make money. They are still hot, but probably were "super hot" back in their prime (18-25). They can't compete with all the new chicas turning 18 yrs old every day, so they go abroad.[/QUOTE]

Yeah unless the hookup is with a really good friend or the girl says share my number It's best to avoid that rabbit hole.

A guy in that situation has nothing to gain and a lot to lose by dispersing a girls number willy nilly.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1860522]Yeah, that always goes over really well.

Suddenly the girl, who according to the story, is absolutely not p4 p, starts getting hit up on Facebook and Whatsapp from guys saying "some really tall guy from Belgium posted your info to the internet. How much for TLN and do you do anal?

He'll be lucky if the guys she sends after him only decide to break a few bones.

Here's a little helpful tip:

Never share contact information unless all of the following conditions are met.

1. The girl is P4 P and has specifically asked you to pass the information on to your friends.

2. You only pass the information privately to a friend who you know and trust.

A complete stranger from the internet does not meet the second criteria.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1860522]Yeah, that always goes over really well.

Suddenly the girl, who according to the story, is absolutely not p4 p, starts getting hit up on Facebook and Whatsapp from guys saying "some really tall guy from Belgium posted your info to the internet. How much for TLN and do you do anal?

He'll be lucky if the guys she sends after him only decide to break a few bones.

[/QUOTE]The girl in his story is never going to respect him. She already had her way with him. So why not let some other guys try their luck with her?

No one has to tell her where they got her info from. Maybe she meets a lot of foreigners if she is hanging around Parque Lleras.

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1860776]The girl in his story is never going to respect him. She already had her way with him. So why not let some other guys try their luck with her?

No one has to tell her where they got her info from. Maybe she meets a lot of foreigners if she is hanging around Parque Lleras.[/QUOTE]For every person on this forum who posts, there are at least 20, who don't even have an account, or have an account but never post. How do you know what each of them would do with her contact information? How do you know one of them won't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] her or worse? It's a dangerous world we live in, and needlessly exposing another to more danger isn't a good policy.

You're starting with two completely wrong assumptions. First you're assuming she's stupid, which she clearly isn't. She just finished dealing with an emotional wreck foreigner and suddenly a bunch of (or even 1 or 2) foreigners start calling her or hitting her Facebook or Whatsapp, and she's not going to make the connection? She'll figure it out in 5 seconds and be seriously pissed. There are so many ways that can come back on him, none of them good.

The second wrong assumption is that everyone here is a good person who will treat the girl with respect and decency. The correct assumption online is that at least half the people are dangerous, and that you have no way of knowing which half.

If other guys want to try their luck with her, it's really simple. All they need to do is spend some time at Parque Lleras, have some game and try their luck picking up college girls who match the description. Because, I will guarantee that's the only way anyone from here stands any chance with her.

[QUOTE=Jonesie;1860372]This is Angie at New Life. She can be quite good, when she wants. She's put on a couple of pounds since these pics. The puta life can do that.[/QUOTE]Hey,

I remember her from New Life a while back.

Her name used to be Stefani there, and a bit more flaquita.

I met her on her first day working there, she worked there a while, became a gringo favorite, disappeared and looks like back again.

Rumors were that she left the country with an infatuated gringo.

She was always sweet, I wish her the best.

I have to agree with you on giving the girls info, even to people you know. I shared some information on girls contact info with a friend of 18 years and he used it to fuck me over with a girl I was seeing here in the USA because he wanted her.

Some guys will contact the girl, fuck your shit up and then never set foot in the country.

If a guy can't go out and find his own lay with the info given here without contact info for girls, he is either lazy or something worse is wrong with him.

[QUOTE=TellAll;1860844]I have to agree with you on giving the girls info, even to people you know. I shared some information on girls contact info with a friend of 18 years and he used it to fuck me over with a girl I was seeing here in the USA because he wanted her.

Some guys will contact the girl, fuck your shit up and then never set foot in the country.

If a guy can't go out and find his own lay with the info given here without contact info for girls, he is either lazy or something worse is wrong with him.[/QUOTE]Well, if a guy can't get laid in Medellin, then the only option he has left to get laid is to crawl up a chicken's ass and wait.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1860695]I hooked a guy from the board up with one of my chicks in Thailand. I asked her permission beforehand. I don't know what happened but I never heard anything back from him and everytime I see her out and about she won't speak to me. Needless to say, those days are over. Like SavePros said though, I can still point you in the direction of all the pussy you can stand.[/QUOTE]I have a couple of friends I trust, but as far as sharing my contacts with strangers or online message boards. LOL.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1860645]It's not in your best to share contact info with anyone. There is no one more apt at fucking up a good thing than Westerners. Just look at places like San Jose, Sosua, Cuba, Haiti (NGOs), etc.

I've always told guys I can point them in the right direction of where to find the pussy, but I am not delivering the pussy on a silver platter.[/QUOTE]San Jose 20 years ago was amazing. Now it is a cesspool. Same with Sosua. Both places are overrun with what I would describe as "non-travelers". Guys that don't bother to learn or act different than they do in Brooklyn or Miami. For now Medellin is still pretty good but for how long?

[QUOTE=GringooFuk;1860908]The guy posting saying $200 asking prices I thought Medellin was like $20 a pop for the prepagos etc?[/QUOTE]Prepagos (escort service girls) prices are mostly in the $50-$100 price range. Some give 60 minutes, some 90, some just however long it takes to get the first pop. Girls off the street in the $20 range should be no big problem.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1860876]Well, if a guy can't get laid in Medellin, then the only option he has left to get laid is to crawl up a chicken's ass and wait.[/QUOTE]Now that was funny. But also promising. LOL.

Don't jack up the price by paying $200 US for prepagos. I don't want Colombia to turn into Brazil. Pussy is very cheap in MDE. Lets keep it that way. I have an amiga that got a lot of money from an american for her services. We don't want these hoes getting used to these high prices. Don't be a pendejo!

True talk!

[QUOTE=TellAll;1860844]I have to agree with you on giving the girls info, even to people you know. I shared some information on girls contact info with a friend of 18 years and he used it to fuck me over with a girl I was seeing here in the USA because he wanted her.

Some guys will contact the girl, fuck your shit up and then never set foot in the country.

If a guy can't go out and find his own lay with the info given here without contact info for girls, he is either lazy or something worse is wrong with him.[/QUOTE].

Damn she is fine!

[QUOTE=Jonesie;1860372]This is Angie at New Life. She can be quite good, when she wants. She's put on a couple of pounds since these pics. The puta life can do that.[/QUOTE].

High five is right! LOL

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1860707]That is nothing new. The girls you will fuck in Panama, Aruba, Curacao, St Marteen come from Colombia, DR, Venezuela, and other close by Latin-Caribbean countries. Of course they go for more money. I met a chick from Bogota in a club in Peru last week. I asked her how much and she said $150/HR. I started laughing. She said why are you laughing? I said because I can go to Santa Fe in Bogota for 35,000 pesos. She high-fived me and started laughing too.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1860707] I met a chick from Bogota in a club in Peru last week. I asked her how much and she said $150/HR. I started laughing. She said why are you laughing? I said because I can go to Santa Fe in Bogota for 35,000 pesos. She high-fived me and started laughing too.[/QUOTE]
She laughed too because, even without an MBA, started to compare the two business plans to get a Colombian pussy:

1) fuck now and here: 150 USD / h.

2) fuck in Bogota:
35 kCOP /15 minutes * 4 = 140 kCOP / h = 45 USD / h +.
+ 500 USD for a return ticket LIM-BOG-LIM +.
+ 50 USD for 1 night in hotel in Bogota +.
+ 2 days time.

It depends on how urgent is the need of fucking.
The price of a good fresh well-ripened mango is 2500 COP in Medellin, but it you want it so good and fresh in Moskow you might end up paying it 20 times that.
I think that after high-fiving, she went back to her business and earned her 150 USD from someone else. Market rules. If a price is set to 150 there must be a reason, someone who buys and someone who sells find the equilibrium point, where both find it convenient.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1861032]Don't jack up the price by paying $200 US for prepagos. I don't want Colombia to turn into Brazil. Pussy is very cheap in MDE. Lets keep it that way. I have an amiga that got a lot of money from an american for her services. We don't want these hoes getting used to these high prices. Don't be a pendejo![/QUOTE]It really isn't a problem. In most cases the guy who's ready to spend $200 for a prepago, finds the prepago he likes and pays her regular price, or he limits himself to the prepagos who are already charging that much.

Even if he does give 700 k to a 150 k prepago it doesn't change anything. If she raises her price to 700 k, it will be right back to 150 k next week. And the chicas on the street aren't going to suddenly go from 40 or 50 k to 500 k, because of 1 or 2 fools with more money than sense.

Now if 500 guys per day show up and start giving out that much money, prices will go up, but that's not happening.

The dudes who overpay or don't mind some of the girls crazy prices are prob.

Dudes who aren't on these forums.

The Colombian chcias who are asking for $150-$200 dollars USD are the chicks who fly to Carribean and are probably.

Part time models, instagram girls, part time dancers at Fase, SD, La Isla. Students, or working professionals.

Not the girls you see at CASAs or LLeras park.

Either way. Being model or pretty girl doesn't mean much when there are so many girls. Especially once you get closer to 30's years old and +.

These girls shouldn't be charging this much, no way local Colombians paying that much. Guess some gringos are OK with paying them that much.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1861067]She laughed too because, even without an MBA, started to compare the two business plans to get a Colombian pussy:

1) fuck now and here: 150 USD / h.

2) fuck in Bogota:
35 kCOP /15 minutes * 4 = 140 kCOP / h = 45 USD / h +.
+ 500 USD for a return ticket LIM-BOG-LIM +.
+ 50 USD for 1 night in hotel in Bogota +.
+ 2 days time.

It depends on how urgent is the need of fucking.
The price of a good fresh well-ripened mango is 2500 COP in Medellin, but it you want it so good and fresh in Moskow you might end up paying it 20 times that.
I think that after high-fiving, she went back to her business and earned her 150 USD from someone else. Market rules. If a price is set to 150 there must be a reason, someone who buys and someone who sells find the equilibrium point, where both find it convenient.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1860696]Guess they want more $$.

Whats the prices like in Caribbean.[/QUOTE]Prices on the island you are referring to in that image are COP90 for half hour, to be exact. Some will ask for COP130 if they feel they have more to offer than their colleagues. And as some have already stated, it's nothing new. Colombia, Dominican Republic, Venezuela, Peru etc. Have been providing the islands with pussy for decades.

[QUOTE=TimeToPlay;1861013]San Jose 20 years ago was amazing. Now it is a cesspool. Same with Sosua. Both places are overrun with what I would describe as "non-travelers". Guys that don't bother to learn or act different than they do in Brooklyn or Miami. For now Medellin is still pretty good but for how long?[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if you're referring to prices as well but.

The first (and last) time I went to San Jose was about 10 years ago. Outside of casas the chica union was in full effect. CIEN. Thats the answer every chick said right out the gate.

Sosua aroord the same time was still the wild west. Anything was game. IMO the fact that it's basically a one road town and closest to the US (easy access) makes it a prime candidate to be ruined first.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1861032]Don't jack up the price by paying $200 US for prepagos. I don't want Colombia to turn into Brazil. Pussy is very cheap in MDE. Lets keep it that way. I have an amiga that got a lot of money from an american for her services. We don't want these hoes getting used to these high prices. Don't be a pendejo![/QUOTE]+1 X 1000!

Yes!

Please fellas don't overpay!

I'll never forget the nice young Thai who said she was with only with one farang before me. Yeah I know common story but I believed her. My wingman was with her friend and she kept mama goosing keeping him up all night asking if her friend will be OK with me blah blah.

Anyhow after having a great all night with her if came time to pay. I gave her a fair going rate and looked at me crazy. Said that old German farang she was with before me gave her 300 euros for three days. I could have strangled "Heinrich" for spoiling her so soon!

Many girls start to have anxiety at 22 about becoming 30, which is statistically old in medellin.

New Life and paisasdivinas are the price norms.

New Life 70/ hs COP.

Paisasdivinas 120/ hs COP.

100 COP maybe +30 for oral natural is a statistical conclusion.

There are 640 mil girl, 18-30 legit for sex for money.

Mayority, 50 %is minimum wage poor, 25 % is absolute poor, the 50% combine work at 600-700 for 60 hs a week with studies.

100 mil are top notch 9-10 babes.

100 mil babes that get 100 mil in pay. A good number.

Just say NO.

It's very easy.

It starts here!

New Life and paisasdivins can be used as price norms, even though Paisasdivinas is above 100 mil.

You can though find 9/10's at New Life.

Think of what you pay a taxi, 5-10 mil COP, 10-15% of what you pay at home, the same for any other service.

[QUOTE=TimeToPlay;1861013]San Jose 20 years ago was amazing. Now it is a cesspool. Same with Sosua. Both places are overrun with what I would describe as "non-travelers". Guys that don't bother to learn or act different than they do in Brooklyn or Miami. For now Medellin is still pretty good but for how long?[/QUOTE]Have you been to Medellin recently? New Life recently has seen American sausage fests. Medellin is certainly heading towards a San Jose / Sosua experience. It has been gradually so for many years but the jump from 2015 to 2016 has been huge. I'm already looking for a new destination - my contribution to the reduction of the Yankee influx LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1861397]Have you been to Medellin recently? New Life recently has seen American sausage fests. Medellin is certainly heading towards a San Jose / Sosua experience. It has been gradually so for many years but the jump from 2015 to 2016 has been huge. I'm already looking for a new destination - my contribution to the reduction of the Yankee influx LOL.[/QUOTE]It's bound to happen, no matter where you go in the world, if the pussy is good and cheap, it will be overrun. With everyone carrying a smartphone, it just happens quicker now than before. It's always happened and always will.

Joe, a true explorer, we're talking wrestling tigers, fighting off indigenous warriors and discovering lost cities explorer, stumbles upon a small village deep in the jungle. He stops for a few days because the people are very friendly, the women are beautiful, and for a single bite of chocolate they will rock his world all night.

Afterwards he tells a couple of friends about the place. Within 5 years there's 2 hotels, a McDonald's, a brothel called "Pussy for Chocolate" and it's still a great place. In 20 years it has it's own international airport and gets 2 million visitors per year, most complaining that all the new guys are ruining everything.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1861109]
These girls shouldn't be charging this much, no way local Colombians paying that much. Guess some gringos are OK with paying them that much.[/QUOTE]Why shouldn't they be charging that much? If they can find enough people to pay that price, then more power to them?

Why should Bugatti be able to charge $2 million for a car when a Kia goes for $15,000?

I look around the US and I can find pussy for as low as $50, or for $500 or $5,000. How can a woma, and who shows up in a Mercedes, looking like she stepped out of a fashion magazine, charge 100 times as much as the meth addict with no teeth who does her business on a stained mattress, on the floor, in an unheated room that smells like cat [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]?

The price is always going to vary. One girl might charge you more because you're old and fat, or she might charge you more because you're young and fit. Another may charge less for the same reasons.

The girls decide how much to charge, the customer decides how much he's willing to pay.

[QUOTE=GringooFuk;1861200]Is there a list of Gringo bars and how do you stay out of the danger zones as I am complete never been there type.

Thanks[/QUOTE]There isn't a list of gringo bars that I know of, probably because there aren't enough gringo bars to make a list. Much of South and Central America don't care for gringos (Gringo: someone who gets mad at natives because they don't understand English, even when spoken loud and slow).

Why would anyone traveling want to find a Gringo bar? Every state in the US is full of Gringo bars. Most cities have areas with hotels, restaurants and bars that cater to to tourists. Everything costs more, but there's a good chance you'll find someone who speaks English. Just go on TripAdvisor and look for areas with lots of hotels with bad reviews for silly reasons: "housekeeping did not speak English", "only 2 English channels on the television", "no ice machine", "restaurant menus aren't in English". You've found the Gringo zone.

A much better option is to read the forum and other forums if your looking for non-mongering information. Learn some Spanish, for about $40 you can get a course complete with CDS. Just knowing the difference between caballeros and damas is a big help.

If you do find a gringo bar, stay there. You can drink and talk with a Bible salesman from Minneapolis and complain about the metric system.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1861488] for about $40 you can get a course complete with CDS. Just knowing the difference between caballeros and damas is a big help. [/QUOTE]A course with CD which can teach people to distinguish between caballeros and damas? Is it expensive?? LOL.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1861488]If you do find a gringo bar, stay there. You can drink and talk with a Bible salesman from Minneapolis and complain about the metric system.[/QUOTE]An alternative way to spend a night in Medellin, while another one would be sipping a beer at Barra Ejecutiva.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1861397]Have you been to Medellin recently? New Life recently has seen American sausage fests. Medellin is certainly heading towards a San Jose / Sosua experience. It has been gradually so for many years but the jump from 2015 to 2016 has been huge. I'm already looking for a new destination - my contribution to the reduction of the Yankee influx LOL.[/QUOTE]Indeed, Medellin is seeing a boom. It seems English is now the language in Poblado. The Mansion is full with a wait, as is Poblado Rentals and First American. Even the hammocks and bunk beds in Jake's commune are getting booked.

And it's not just us mongers, every block within a 10 block radius of Parque Lleras has a couple hostels full of robust smelling Europeans.

Where does that leave our hobby? Depends on whether you're looking short or long term. Short term, Medellin's homeless population has begun to migrate towards Poblado to welcome the new arrivals. The scams are getting bolder, and the chicas are probing to see how much they can get away with. I had to carry a rowdy hooker out of my friend's apartment last month because she insisted showing up was enough to be paid for. Refusing to fuck anyone, and simply saying 'Tengo ir, pagame'. We're just at the point of the chica push, and not quite and the gringo push back. The war vet with ptsd that decides he doesn't feel like being scammed tonight, etc.

The whole of the locals' scene is largely intact, as that shit doesn't fly among the paisas. And the centro scene is still a little colorful for most of the gulch dregs, so we've got some time. So while these guys are in a rush to turn Medellin into Costa Rica, us vets are slowly eyeballing Havana and Caracas.

Some kind of promotion in Metro going on. Today, April 6, all rides on Metro is free until 4 PM. Casa trips just got cheaper.

Bandy.

I hope so. Like my man world jockey said. We tend to fuck up a good thing.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1861107]It really isn't a problem. In most cases the guy who's ready to spend $200 for a prepago, finds the prepago he likes and pays her regular price, or he limits himself to the prepagos who are already charging that much.

Even if he does give 700 k to a 150 k prepago it doesn't change anything. If she raises her price to 700 k, it will be right back to 150 k next week. And the chicas on the street aren't going to suddenly go from 40 or 50 k to 500 k, because of 1 or 2 fools with more money than sense.

Now if 500 guys per day show up and start giving out that much money, prices will go up, but that's not happening.[/QUOTE]

Lolo these white folks be crazy!

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;1861199]I'm not sure if you're referring to prices as well but.

The first (and last) time I went to San Jose was about 10 years ago. Outside of casas the chica union was in full effect. CIEN. Thats the answer every chick said right out the gate.

Sosua aroord the same time was still the wild west. Anything was game. IMO the fact that it's basically a one road town and closest to the US (easy access) makes it a prime candidate to be ruined first.

+1 X 1000!

Yes!

Please fellas don't overpay!

I'll never forget the nice young Thai who said she was with only with one farang before me. Yeah I know common story but I believed her. My wingman was with her friend and she kept mama goosing keeping him up all night asking if her friend will be OK with me blah blah.

Anyhow after having a great all night with her if came time to pay. I gave her a fair going rate and looked at me crazy. Said that old German farang she was with before me gave her 300 euros for three days. I could have strangled "Heinrich" for spoiling her so soon![/QUOTE]

See this is what I'm talking about. Thats why I don't do to new life. Should we just stop helping newbies?

[QUOTE=Turgid;1861397]Have you been to Medellin recently? New Life recently has seen American sausage fests. Medellin is certainly heading towards a San Jose / Sosua experience. It has been gradually so for many years but the jump from 2015 to 2016 has been huge. I'm already looking for a new destination - my contribution to the reduction of the Yankee influx LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;1861199]Anyhow after having a great all night with her if came time to pay. I gave her a fair going rate and looked at me crazy. Said that old German farang she was with before me gave her 300 euros for three days. I could have strangled "Heinrich" for spoiling her so soon![/QUOTE]That is when I would have taken my money back and said, "Oh yeah. That was my friend. He was paying for both of us. ".

300 euros! Current going rate is about 3000 bhat for long time which means toda la noche. 3000 bhat is about $85 USD so is she fucked him day and night 3 days straight it isn't that much. Again that is current pricing. He did overpay but at current pricing not much. Maybe $50 euros much. Maybe she was tight A+ Hiso girl. You tell us.

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;1861199]I'm not sure if you're referring to prices as well but.

The first (and last) time I went to San Jose was about 10 years ago. Outside of casas the chica union was in full effect. CIEN. Thats the answer every chick said right out the gate.

Sosua aroord the same time was still the wild west. Anything was game. IMO the fact that it's basically a one road town and closest to the US (easy access) makes it a prime candidate to be ruined first.

+1 X 1000!

Yes!

Please fellas don't overpay!

I'll never forget the nice young Thai who said she was with only with one farang before me. Yeah I know common story but I believed her. My wingman was with her friend and she kept mama goosing keeping him up all night asking if her friend will be OK with me blah blah.

Anyhow after having a great all night with her if came time to pay. I gave her a fair going rate and looked at me crazy. Said that old German farang she was with before me gave her 300 euros for three days. I could have strangled "Heinrich" for spoiling her so soon![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1861554]See this is what I'm talking about. Thats why I don't do to new life. Should we just stop helping newbies?[/QUOTE]Helping newbies will slow the inevitable collapse.

Anywhere there is cheap, good pussy, guys will show up. Most won't have a clue how to act, but they want some. Some start fights because the girl they want is heading off with someone else. Others don't understand that not everyone is available. Just a few of the problems from newbies.

Long ago, I spent some time at a Swinger club in Phoenix, back when Phoenix had them. Usually I went with my Phoenix girl, but a few times I'd go solo (single guys were allowed in Thursday and Friday nights). On these nights a lot of couples would show up wanting a MFM 3 some or a gangbang or just to put on a show for a bunch of horny guys. For me, it was cheap entertainment. For $30 there's a decent buffet, all the soft drinks were free and there's always the chance of extras.

In the back were play rooms, both open rooms and rooms with locking doors. Anytime a couple would head to the back 20 guys would jump up and follow. Unless they ended up behind a closed door, the crowd would keep inching closer and closer. Then someone, often after a nod from the husband, would get a feel. Everything is going good, she's fine with the extra guy and things move along. About 3 minutes later at least 10 guys are trying to get something and 20 more behind are pushing closer. The woman freaks out, the guy chases everyone out, they get dressed, go home and never return. Rinse and repeat all night long.

This is what it's like with the uninformed newbies. You can't keep the secret, people will find out and show up. The newbies are only interested in getting some pussy. Even if they make the trip every month, they still dive in, don't care who the trample or who they [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off.

The informed newbie knows there's no shortage of pussy. He takes his time, treats people right, gets twice as much as the other guys, usually for less money, and everyone is happy to see him.

So share your knowledge. Educate the newbies. Teach them how to avoid being the Obnoxious American, or Indian or German.

Anyone know how late the bus from the airport runs? I'm arriving around 9:30 and wanted to know if I'd have to take a cab instead of the bus.

Also, anyone have a recommended taxi driver? Spanish is ok. I've looked at the drivers listed on WT69's list but just wanted to inquire about any recommendations from recent taxi driver experiences. (PM me if you prefer).

Lastly, first visit to MDE (but been to CTG, BOG, and Cali) and RTFF going back several years. Any recommended freelancer places? (I read about "Fahrenheit" in another website?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Bijou;1861632]Anyone know how late the bus from the airport runs? I'm arriving around 9:30 and wanted to know if I'd have to take a cab instead of the bus.
Also, anyone have a recommended taxi driver? Spanish is ok. I've looked at the drivers listed on WT69's list but just wanted to inquire about any recommendations from recent taxi driver experiences. (PM me if you prefer).
Lastly, first visit to MDE (but been to CTG, BOG, and Cali) and RTFF going back several years. Any recommended freelancer places? (I read about "Fahrenheit" in another website?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Why should one take a bus, when the taxi is just 70 k ($22! And takes you directly to your place in 45 minutes??

No need to get a special driver from a list, when 99% of taxi drivers in MDE outstands for service, honesty and kindeness. Pick the first from the street.

Fahrenheit is one of the best disco. I don't know the rate of P4 P there. For sure you'll meet plenty of young talents, but you need to dress fancy and look very very good (men in Medellin are handsome as the girls).

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1861651]Why should one take a bus, when the taxi is just 70 k ($22! And takes you directly to your place in 45 minutes??[/QUOTE]Maybe because the bus is only 9k (less than $3; 13% of the cost of a taxi) and will get you there in roughly the same amount of time. I have been to Medellin 3 times this year. So my 6 bus rides still have not added up to your 1 taxi ride. I think the bus stops at midnight and starts back up again at 3:30am.

Hey guys!

Medellin is so close I can taste it! Just a few more weeks!

I was seeing if anyone hits up the gym on a regular basis there? If so, I am looking for high quality equipment at a reasonable price of course. Any suggestions will be appreciated!

I'm with you, the bus is not for me. I would skip a trip or two to avoid having to save $15 or wait until a bus is ready to leave, or change to a taxi to get to my final destination after coming down from Rionegro. It's all about personal preference.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1861651]Why should one take a bus, when the taxi is just 70 k ($22! And takes you directly to your place in 45 minutes??

No need to get a special driver from a list, when 99% of taxi drivers in MDE outstands for service, honesty and kindeness. Pick the first from the street.

Fahrenheit is one of the best disco. I don't know the rate of P4 P there. For sure you'll meet plenty of young talents, but you need to dress fancy and look very very good (men in Medellin are handsome as the girls).[/QUOTE]

Wow now its 70 k. Its used to 60 k.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1861700]Maybe because the bus is only 9k (less than $3; 13% of the cost of a taxi) and will get you there in roughly the same amount of time. I have been to Medellin 3 times this year. So my 6 bus rides still have not added up to your 1 taxi ride. I think the bus stops at midnight and starts back up again at 3:30am.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1861700]Maybe because the bus is only 9k (less than $3; 13% of the cost of a taxi) and will get you there in roughly the same amount of time. I have been to Medellin 3 times this year. So my 6 bus rides still have not added up to your 1 taxi ride. I think the bus stops at midnight and starts back up again at 3:30am.[/QUOTE]That's not correct.

YES: the bus is cheaper. A lot cheaper in [I]relative[/I] terms (%13), but I question how relevant is that saving in [I]absolute[/I] terms ($18?) How much do you / we plan to spend in a week in Medellin, taking into account flight, hotel, girls, meals, entertainment?

NO: "will get you there in roughly the same amount of time". Not at all: the bus takes you to the street behind Nutibara, the taxi takes you to your hotel anywhere in town. If you arrive to MDE at 10pm, as the guy who asked, arriving with luggage at 11pm behind Nutibara is not suited to everyone. Imagine the scene: gringo with Samsonite bag walking fast seeking his way while all street characters look at him

In conclusion: the bus at night is advisable only to someone who counts the dollars and stays at Nutibara. For all others, taxi and only taxi.

[QUOTE=KingAmongKings;1861709]Hey guys!

Medellin is so close I can taste it! Just a few more weeks!

I was seeing if anyone hits up the gym on a regular basis there? If so, I am looking for high quality equipment at a reasonable price of course. Any suggestions will be appreciated![/QUOTE]Bodytech at Vizcaya mall in Poblado is a very good gym.

Thanks for the advise regarding the taxi vs bus question from airport. (I didn't really mean to start a debate on which was better). I was really inquiring about the bus more for the "safety" factor in that I didn't want to run the risk of getting into a taxi late at night and possibly having the driver take me to an accomplice. Not that I'm parnaoid from my travels but just wanted to be smart. From the responses I've seen below, it seems that the airport taxis (and taxis in general are very safe). I'll post a trip report when I get back.

[QUOTE=Jonesie;1861524]Indeed, Medellin is seeing a boom. It seems English is now the language in Poblado. The Mansion is full with a wait, as is Poblado Rentals and First American. Even the hammocks and bunk beds in Jake's commune are getting booked.

And it's not just us mongers, every block within a 10 block radius of Parque Lleras has a couple hostels full of robust smelling Europeans.

Where does that leave our hobby? Depends on whether you're looking short or long term. Short term, Medellin's homeless population has begun to migrate towards Poblado to welcome the new arrivals. The scams are getting bolder, and the chicas are probing to see how much they can get away with. I had to carry a rowdy hooker out of my friend's apartment last month because she insisted showing up was enough to be paid for. Refusing to fuck anyone, and simply saying 'Tengo ir, pagame'. We're just at the point of the chica push, and not quite and the gringo push back. The war vet with ptsd that decides he doesn't feel like being scammed tonight, etc.

The whole of the locals' scene is largely intact, as that shit doesn't fly among the paisas. And the centro scene is still a little colorful for most of the gulch dregs, so we've got some time. So while these guys are in a rush to turn Medellin into Costa Rica, us vets are slowly eyeballing Havana and Caracas.[/QUOTE]Jake's hammocks have turned into a new high end location with three bedrooms with private baths and a view looking down toward Park Lleras from the balcony Jacuzzi! I'm not ready to throw in the towel on Medellin and for all those reasons Jonesie mentioned its a smart move to go with my Girlfriends 6 hour dates for peace of mind that your not going to get drugged or ripped off! No doubt my place was old and tired but now come experience a whole new level of good time!

Thanks,

Colombia Jake.

I wrote a report that was not published. OK.

But look at this: A FB prepago:

C Jack Sparrow; sexo con un prepago = como tomar un buen cappuchino why ya otro 150 mil perdido, no vale la pena.

C Jack Sparrow; 75 + taxi incluyendo oral natural, soy 100% limpio why con documentos hecho un control la semana pasada. El medico's examinacion why documento muestra que soy sano.

Salome: Ok mi amor dale cuando nos vemos te chupo sin condon pero sexo con condand Ok nos vemos hoy dime la direcion para llegar bebe.

BABYLON TRANSLATION:

C Jack Sparrow; sex with (yet another) a prepago = like taking a good cappuchino and loose another 150 mil lost, it's not worth it!

C Jack Sparrow; 75+ taxi including natural oral, I'm 100% clean and with the documents from a control made a week ago shows that the doctor's control and control, testing, shows that I'm 100% fresh. No STD.

Salome; OK, my love, m that's fine. Then I will give you natural oral-sex, but vaginal-sex with condom. Just tell me address and time, baby.

Admin did not publish or even took away my long text I wrote en la madrugada. The main point was just this; negotiate as a gentleman, be hard, but not in polite, and prices will fall, in this case from 150 to 75 mil pesos.

I had a girl from a barrio that wanted a brashier after having full uncovered sex. I gave her some money like 50-75, "buy what you want, I'm in a hurry" Plus taxi. But it could be better to co-ordinate 2-3 guys; then she can find it worth go my buss and metro.

Then we are down to $US25. You can get it a lot cheaper in el centro on the streets, but Salome was a pretty girl.

PM for her FB address, photos can't be published, get the whole page.) I consider her an "8", Sexy body, face more normal.

Yeah I saw that once, but the website does not have rates daily, weekly, monthly etc. I tried send a message on the website and got nothing. Do you happen to know rates there?

[QUOTE=NortonNork;1861918]Bodytech at Vizcaya mall in Poblado is a very good gym.[/QUOTE]

Jonesie, its your buddy Daniel Caro hyping Medellin to his English only gringo following. I guess that CubaDave shit scared them all to Medellin.

Funny, I was looking at Caracas too but I am too chicken to go there at the moment.

[QUOTE=BeersTerry;1862250]Jonesie, its your buddy Daniel Caro hyping Medellin to his English only gringo following. I guess that CubaDave shit scared them all to Medellin.

Funny, I was looking at Caracas too but I am too chicken to go there at the moment.[/QUOTE]Following? You mean the six raincoat winos from crash that couldn't make their pensions stretch a whole month in CR? Mr. Woodall has been elusive, if not outright absent. I've had somewhat of an obsessive desire to give him a proper Medellin welcome, to no avail.

We have been getting quite a few CR guys down here over the last year. For every good one, comes a few dregs. They're hard to miss, they walk around Poblado looking like unmade beds, speaking sportsmen's lodge Spanish, chattering among themselves about which restaurants have early bird specials, and how to get out of paying a chica's taxi fare home. A procession of specters.

As far as Caracas goes, we need to wait until it's been off the stove for a while before taking a sip. That shit's like the wild west these days.

[QUOTE=Jonesie;1862446]Following? You mean the six raincoat winos from crash that couldn't make their pensions stretch a whole month in CR? Mr. Woodall has been elusive, if not outright absent. I've had somewhat of an obsessive desire to give him a proper Medellin welcome, to no avail.

We have been getting quite a few CR guys down here over the last year. For every good one, comes a few dregs. They're hard to miss, they walk around Poblado looking like unmade beds, speaking sportsmen's lodge Spanish, chattering among themselves about which restaurants have early bird specials, and how to get out of paying a chica's taxi fare home. A procession of specters.

As far as Caracas goes, we need to wait until it's been off the stove for a while before taking a sip. That shit's like the wild west these days.[/QUOTE]As you know Caracas has a ton of beautiful women! I can't wait until it's safe to go there!

[QUOTE=BrotherP;1862584]As you know Caracas has a ton of beautiful women! I can't wait until it's safe to go there![/QUOTE]Interestingly, on my last visit to Cartagena I met 3-4 girls coming from Venezuela. It never happened to me before. It means life there is getting tougher and tougher. My best wishes to all Venezolanos and Venezolanas.

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I have several Venezuelan coworkers who visit their hometowns every year but will not go to Caracas because of safety concerns. I won't second guess them.

[QUOTE=BeersTerry;1862250]Jonesie, its your buddy Daniel Caro hyping Medellin to his English only gringo following. I guess that CubaDave shit scared them all to Medellin.

Funny, I was looking at Caracas too but I am too chicken to go there at the moment.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jonesie;1861524] Medellin into Costa Rica, us vets are slowly eyeballing Havana and Caracas.[/QUOTE]I haven't been to Havana but given the political climate its about to be flooded with Americans.

Despite the dog and pony show on TV, lover her or hate her Hilary will be the next POTUS (too many things in her favor).

That said she will probably continue loosening knots with Havana. I don't see how that would help our hobby. As a matter of fact they have already seen increased American tourism.

Caracas is bats hit crazy and probably a little more light at the end of that tunnel. Right now it just seems like too much work. Having two rates of exchange for the USD is a pain in the ass itself.

I guess all that goes out the door if ya have a hookup. But everything I hear coming out of there makes me put and Korea on the potential mongering list beside it.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1861554]See this is what I'm talking about. Thats why I don't do to new life. Should we just stop helping newbies?[/QUOTE]Good point. If they get overrun by extranjeros as opposed to locals you know what about to happen next. Price increase.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1861579]That is when I would have taken my money back and said, "Oh yeah. That was my friend. He was paying for both of us. ".[/QUOTE][QUOTE=JjBee62;1861488]If you do find a gringo bar, stay there. You can drink and talk with a Bible salesman from Minneapolis and complain about the metric system.[/QUOTE]LOL dead and buried laughing at you comedians.

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1861602]300 euros! Current going rate is about 3000 bhat for long time which means toda la noche. 3000 bhat is about $85 USD so is she fucked him day and night 3 days straight it isn't that much. Again that is current pricing. He did overpay but at current pricing not much. Maybe $50 euros much. Maybe she was tight A+ Hiso girl. You tell us.[/QUOTE]Her name was "Oil". I swear I don't know why those Thai like taking English nicknames of objects. Anyhow she was fine. The fact that she wasnt hardened was a feather in her cap also.

This was a few years back so the price may a little different today. Even today 300 Euros tho. Sigh.

I*had a strong report removed yesterday, saying that we should go back to Frank Casio, as a re-start about how we should pay. Parts of it was perhaps inappropriate. I got it though that admin not had followed the discussion at all and found it therefore offensive!

I have only strong critique; the thread has the purpose of giving mongers a good market information. Instead there are "reports" about trivial things; fares on the bus, weather report. Small-meanness and fear, taking the home-countries social strict behavior with them. This take up space and finally genuine people ends to read ISG, it feels like reading yesterdays's local newspaper.

Eat those persons porridge with estrogen in it for breakfast? They save on everything except the important; prices for erotic services. I would be amazed at how much they are prepared to throw away in a unnecessarily way and at the same time destroying for us who strive for getting the girls to accept local prices for foreigners as well. If we can do that Medellin will be Paradise Medellin, as Frank Casio used to say.

My statistics clearly shows that we have a big advantage. ; we are few in numbers and can survive without erotic service from a hot girl. It's boring. That's all. She, on the other hand, wakes up with an empty wallet! My statistics shows that just in Colombia there are 1 million 8´s-10's in Colombia 18-33 yo, 160.000 + 40-160,000 incoming from smaller cities in Antioquia and other regions to keep their anonymity, which it's easy in a 4 million metropolis.

A few can manage to study at a expensive university, which is the only one that give well payed jobs and live a good life, without the need for extra money from some sort of erotic, social service to men. 8/9 of 10 can not and hence studies at CENA etc, which at best gives them the same type of skills for a professional job, but in the "wrong" social environment. These girls compete in beauty, luxury items and that is equal to spend 5 M COP a month. In long periods they need simply to isolate themselves and just do what must be done-study and work regular, with embarrassment and abstinence of all kinds. Maybe she even not can afford Bodytech and then gain weight again, adding even more stress.

Legal Tender gave us the perfect example; he granted a dentist student his scholarship. A very well built girl, he published a few photos of her here. How did he find this Pearl- he was buddy with; her teacher/s who recommended her!

Most ISG guys seems to be lurkers, some bring 1st World rules into a 3rd world society, but just on sexual pleasure, or do they pay the taxi-driver 15,000 COP, when the meter says 6750?

*Nylpimp came with and bold counteroffensive a few days ago; thanks!

I can only recommend 1st world men that go to 3rd world countries with a young population. There are 100;1 or 1000;1 for every 1st sweet girl to us mongers. These girls are actors! If they could, they would rob you of your cash, credit cards, and try to use them on the internet ASAP, which is possible if they have the CCV code, so erase it and save it on a Hotmail or g-mail account. But why rob a gringo when he says yes to 300% of what a paisa would pay? And with some good acting, repeat, being recommended to this likewise stupid friends! Saves a lot of problems if the police should bother about it if you make a report and she is recognized.

As I show, and as Frank Casio had as a theme for months; it is easy to come to terms with girls. Just the facts that they don't have to be slaves, which they are at 686 k COP / month + transport at 60 hours a week, no rights, social security. And many times just kicked out, having being promised last month salary and getting 2 this month, or even 3! The girls have Nothing, and they have opportunity of nothing! Just paying her 75 mil COP two times a week, makes her free from slavery!

El Poblado; girls get overpaid and by an apartment there and live with her mother. On laughed at me on the phone when I said I lived in Laureles, like it was a kind of low class barrio!

Aviod El Poblado! Do an intensive course in Spanish, these can be had in the US, in Medellin, since nobody can stay horny 24/7 for a fortnight! And it's fun! And give some respect, and lower the degree of frustration, both for the girl and the monger.

To take with your 1st World behaviour, since it takes a month according to behavioral science, to change behavior, is a very bad deal, if have prepared well to change attitude, ASAP after picking up your luggage at the airport.
A Gringo means going to a lottery. Getting him into bed is Jackpot! Be nice, flirt, buy some drinks, maybe dinner. And then just go home! Or even better, leave after paying the dinner, with another prepago that you have made an appointment with! Chock-therapy for self-secure, a little high prepagos in Poblado and Parque Lleras. Like when US college team won over Soviet stars 1980 in Lake Placid, or then Sweden turned 0-4 to 4-4 in soccer, with Angela Merkel herself watching.
Selfsecure and selfdeclared winners can loose. But that needs resistance from us Gringos.

Then ther acting skills get them zero, if not a realistic price is negociated beforehand. Like 150 for TLN, which means sleeping 7 hours and having sex one hour, in comparison to 60 hours boring work and transports.

This behavior makes prepagos humble and aware that Gringos are not always Jackpot. And for us who live in Medellin 2-5 months a year. Service personal have yet not got used to treat me as a gringo in Estadio or Laureles, but Poblado I don't even consider going to! Yes, when there a game in Champions League or Euro / World Cup, Grand Slam tennis. A beer from Denmark, Carlsberg is even more expensive in it's own country!

It doesn't demand much to find a power-balance. You say no, save your sexual frustration, which is a positive one, since you know you can get rid of it easily -just go to New Life before 2 pm. and you will find a hottie easily, and for a fraction of the cost. The barrio girl then have to go back to her minimum-wage life. Numbers, are on our side!

I also read about guys paying incredible sums to Top Models. I got one, nylpimp, also know her, Geraldine. She was a model and could have charged me, but charging for sex was just not on her agenda; 18 yo model; she could have made a small fortune. Another model, having been a Xtreme model (similar to Chica's Car Audio, La Mejor Cola de La valle, GM Car Audio) about modelling work, etc. Tells me that "people think we earn tons of money but we do not". " Me and my friend are planning to get a student visa in Europe to work as prepagos there, so to be able to by an apartment and a car". Being a model in Colombia has according to Geraldine 2% chance of commercial success. The rest are simply not needed, more than occasionally. The winning girls get lucrative contracts, the other ones work as Modelo de Protocolo, for wages that are "normal", and certainly not full-time. But it's a good social cover.

Kickboxer has once wrote that he could be "wingman" to a newbie in Medellin to explore the non-pro places. Which shall have incredibly beautiful girls. Discos in Medellin are overrated, Mango is big enough to have a mixed audience. But 9 out of 10 are for teenagers. There shall also be temporal party locals, that rich guys rent for a weekend and invite only +9-10's. For being invited to such a party you need contacts, and a fancy Gringo might be lucky, Colombians with money loves to show off. Such guys, some of the lurkers here find a pub in Poblado, and being very socially, you might come to a party with only divine girls.

Camaro, March / April / May 2013 wrote about he found places inside Cartagena, far away from El Laguito, Boca Grande and it's LDV and alike clubs. Camaros club had a price tag of 100 mil COP.

White Lies. Not only $€£ get the girls attention. Many have a degree these days, quality is therefore low (Murray, Bell Curve, 1995). Having a degree from an European or US quality university make enormous impression, a public prosecutor told me. Dress up, become an actor, as the prepago already are and compete in lying. Have cards that say you have a high status profession. Do a little research and you can handle a discussion. The impression of a Professional Man, is opens up doors to many bedrooms. And families, I. E Free Gold Sex! Only question is; what is such a man doing in Colombia? Why is he not in Miami or Crazy Horse in Paris. Prepare yourself and you get away with it. We are talking about socializing with girls that might rob you, and if you go to the police, she counter with a sexual-abuse accusation.

In Medellin we are in the 3rd world. WE think we are aware and avoid danger, but actually we go right into the Crocodile gap!

These girls have nothing, and they opportunity of nothing!

Once you visit Havana you will realize what a shithole it is. By this I mean that it is a totalitarian communist state where workers have no idea what the concept of service is. The workers extort from you and steal from you. A petty example that I will give you. I am a detail oriented mutherfocker, When I check into a place with 7 pair of underwear, I expect to check out with 7 pair of underwear. Employees being poor, will steal little things like a pair of your underwear and / or a pair of your socks etc etc. Most people will not notice but I do. Then you have the substandard quality and lack of infrastructure.
For the monger, police stop citizens to check their id all the time. They cannot be seen with you, and if they were talking to you, they can and often are taken in for prostittution, a charge that will result in a bribe being paid to the cop or 5 years in prison

In that system, the provider is king as he has access to scarce goods, not the customer, the customer is meaningless.

Sanitation: Most barrios have a dumpster / trash bin on the corner. It fockin reeks to high heaven. Then you have the poorest of the poor dumpster diving and leaving it all over the street. It makes for a lovely sight, never mind smell.

Americans can be very good tippers, but when you enter into he commie world, you will get Cubans demanding tips for nothing.

Venezuela. It is a country with runaway inflation. Any money you exchange you need to spend as tomorrow it is worth alot less. Just having foreign currency makes you a target. Actually, just being a gringo makes you a target.

About 3 weeks ago my girl started kicking around the idea of going to school. She said that she wanted to go for secretarial. A couple of days later she said she wanted to go for dental assistant. I told her that she really didn't need to go until she settled on what it was she really wanted to do. All the while it was running through my mind how was she going to pay for it. Maybe there was a grant or special assistance or something.

Well last week she was informed that her Gringo Grant had not been approved and she chose to cancel her subscription to this dick.

She said that she needed me to help her pay for school or she would have to go work in a club. I asked her which club she was going to work in. She said no a club where the women dance naked. I said that is fine. Just let me know where and I can come see you there.

She was livid and told me to look for another woman. She does not want to be with a man who would prefere his woman be a prostitute. I said well I do not prefer it, but I understand that you have to do what you need to do in order to pay your things.

She said we were finished and she was going to look for someone that really loves her. I guess to her love means paying for her to go to school. I told her good luck with that. There are many more where that one came from.

Damn, she's ice cold :) I'm guessing she will keep doing the same thing to all of her 'friends' until one bites. Good to see that you're not that pendejo.

On another note: I see some mention of Venezuela popping up here and there on the forums, and I like that. Just saying.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;1862628]Interestingly, on my last visit to Cartagena I met 3-4 girls coming from Venezuela. It never happened to me before. It means life there is getting tougher and tougher. My best wishes to all Venezolanos and Venezolanas.[/QUOTE]I might do CTG in July. Maybe I'll meet a few sexy mujeres de Venezuela! I don't think Caracas is going to be a good place to visit anytime soon.

[QUOTE=BrotherP;1862940]I don't think Caracas is going to be a good place to visit anytime soon.[/QUOTE]I think people are pretty delusional about Venezuela and probably don't follow the news or politics at all. It would take at least a decade for that place to turn around. And if Maduro is still in power for another decade, guess what?

Pay me no mind you guys that get a thrill from risking life and limb in the pursuit of cheap pussy.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1863009]I think people are pretty delusional about Venezuela and probably don't follow the news or politics at all. It would take at least a decade for that place to turn around. And if Maduro is still in power for another decade, guess what?

Pay me no mind you guys that get a thrill from risking life and limb in the pursuit of cheap pussy.[/QUOTE]And besides that, I have been to Venezuela a few times and I did not see any women that could hold a candle to a Brazilian or Colombian. You can even go to DR right now and see all the Venezuelans on vacation. Maybe all the hot ones that people claim there are do not have any vacation time, because I have yet to see one in DR either.

[QUOTE=ColombiaJake;1862024]Jake's hammocks have turned into a new high end location with three bedrooms with private baths and a view looking down toward Park Lleras from the balcony Jacuzzi! I'm not ready to throw in the towel on Medellin and for all those reasons Jonesie mentioned its a smart move to go with my Girlfriends 6 hour dates for peace of mind that your not going to get drugged or ripped off! No doubt my place was old and tired but now come experience a whole new level of good time!

Thanks,

Colombia Jake.[/QUOTE]Does that include an elevator this time? Old dogs just want to know.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1863038]And besides that, I have been to Venezuela a few times and I did not see any women that could hold a candle to a Brazilian or Colombian. You can even go to DR right now and see all the Venezuelans on vacation. Maybe all the hot ones that people claim there are do not have any vacation time, because I have yet to see one in DR either.[/QUOTE]With the current state of things in Venezuela, I'm certain you could find some very fine women for a very good price. Every place has its share of beautiful women (if your standards are broad enough) and they all have to eat. When things get bad more of them are looking for money.

Problem is, there are also plenty of men looking for money and they tend to use other methods to get it. Toss in plenty of police and public employees all wanting to supplement their income and the cheap pussy can get very expensive.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1863009]I think people are pretty delusional about Venezuela and probably don't follow the news or politics at all. It would take at least a decade for that place to turn around. And if Maduro is still in power for another decade, guess what?

Pay me no mind you guys that get a thrill from risking life and limb in the pursuit of cheap pussy.[/QUOTE]I haven't been following politics there, but I do know it's too dangerous to visit. I've been on Latin cupid trying to line up some contacts for a visit to Lima later this year. A lot of fine chicas from Venezuela are popping up! Got a brother to thinking! LOL. But I won't be going!

Sorry adding a post to the issue unrelated to Medellin. But for Venezuelan women, you better go to Cucuta, Colombia overall. The service is better organized, reasonable price, and more security.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1863052]With the current state of things in Venezuela, I'm certain you could find some very fine women for a very good price. Every place has its share of beautiful women (if your standards are broad enough) and they all have to eat. When things get bad more of them are looking for money.

Problem is, there are also plenty of men looking for money and they tend to use other methods to get it. Toss in plenty of police and public employees all wanting to supplement their income and the cheap pussy can get very expensive.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1862776]About 3 weeks ago my girl started kicking around the idea of going to school. She said that she wanted to go for secretarial. A couple of days later she said she wanted to go for dental assistant. I told her that she really didn't need to go until she settled on what it was she really wanted to do. All the while it was running through my mind how was she going to pay for it. Maybe there was a grant or special assistance or something.

Well last week she was informed that her Gringo Grant had not been approved and she chose to cancel her subscription to this dick.

She said that she needed me to help her pay for school or she would have to go work in a club. I asked her which club she was going to work in. She said no a club where the women dance naked. I said that is fine. Just let me know where and I can come see you there.

She was livid and told me to look for another woman. She does not want to be with a man who would prefere his woman be a prostitute. I said well I do not prefer it, but I understand that you have to do what you need to do in order to pay your things.

She said we were finished and she was going to look for someone that really loves her. I guess to her love means paying for her to go to school. I told her good luck with that. There are many more where that one came from.[/QUOTE]Where I live an independent can make 500-1,25 M COP / hour.

Marry her and let her work here?

Problem, we look aside of the ethics for a moment, is; tax for her income, how to register a business and get receipt, how to move big quantities of money from Europe to Colombia. My position; she can accuse me of taking % of her, which I have no need for, nor consider fair. Works in we stay permanently, but icy winds and of the world most strict and expensive societies, is heaven for making money from a un-professional work, but hell, if you want to enjoy life.

2 +9/10 Prepagos has yes and I have explained problems, advantages; but it's complicated; one of the two; we have a very good connection since September 2014 and. I have to go.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1862776]About 3 weeks ago my girl started kicking around the idea of going to school.......[/QUOTE]I'm guessing its safe to assume you didn't put those daughters in her belly. That said she should state her case to him / them for money.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1863009]I think people are pretty delusional about Venezuela and probably don't follow the news or politics at all. It would take at least a decade for that place to turn around. And if Maduro is still in power for another decade, guess what?

Pay me no mind you guys that get a thrill from risking life and limb in the pursuit of cheap pussy.[/QUOTE]My thoughts exactly. My wingman keeps floating the Caracas idea and I shoot it down. Always having to look over my shoulder and sleeping with an eye does not sounds like a good time to me. And it sure isn't worth it for pussy.

A Venezuelan guy here in the US was talking to family back home. They hear traffic noises in the background and was shocked. They couldn't believe he was outside in the street talking on the phone. Apparently Caracas only brave people do this.

Hiding a cellphone in public is such a cultural norm in Caracas they couldn't wrap their mind around it being done at all.

Yeah I'll pass on that place.

I was into, in theory, since trying for a short period in Costa Rica 2011/12.

Real Estate. Not renting out, but attract REIT to invest. There is an article [URL]https://www.caseyresearch.com/articles/attractively-priced-real-estate-courtesy-of-pablo-escobar.[/URL].

The cultural gap between rich English speaking world and poor Spanish / Portuguese world is so deep that it affects F.D.I.. Deeply. China has somewhat managed to manoeuvrer it self out if this, but the country has also 20 times bigger population than Colombia, and some coalition between Latin American countries, exist on paper, but is non-existent in reality.

So pure market size and political and military respect has got China back to the place in the world it should have. (Note; Nixon; The 3rd World War, 1980.) he foresaw both China's extremely fast development and the continuation and Never Ending Story of conflicts in The Middle East.

China's continuing growth, and technological progress is manifested in "The Martian". I'm sceptical. I have a friend that know China well before it opened up. There are many regions, provinces that for various reasons, would be nothing than happy, to become (partly) independent. The Central Government has a hard time keeping the country stable and united.

Sovietunion had 168 internally independent regions. 168!

China and it's development. GNP / capita is at $US14.300, while is smells Soviet 70 years of over-investment in heavy industries. And the obvious lack of intercultural and exchange of knowledge. 50% goes constantly to investments, mostly in industries that will be outdated before they become fully operational.

Colombia. It's on the other hand "el perro de EUU", "the Latin America dog of the US". But it had paid of well. The only country that have constant growth since almost 50 years now in this part of the world. OBS! Without currency manipulation, which have got Argentina into a situation that are hopeless. 3% of FDI goes to Argentina, the rest mostly to Brazil and Mexico.

With Santos realistic politics, there will of course continue to come crisis, but the growth is real. It is not due to narcotics. The Colombians a path, a strategy of co-operation with it's powerful neighbor. Narcotics, according to some, play a big role in this progress, but it's a trick; much money comes into a few hands at the cost of the destruction of good farming land, more internal fugitives than Syria has.

The price is also continuing corruption. 90% of the corruption take place on the Colombian side. But a few high positioned american in command, mislead their naval and land troops, so enough can get trough. A partial legislation of cocaine is the only solution. The drug-war will end, as the cold-war ended. The new business, alreday very profitable and even more sad on a personal and famliy level is the kidnappings.

Criminals will be even more dangerous. Kidnapping level fell from over 10.0000 1970 to under 300 2015. It was much about vendetta.

When cocaine and other drugs, controlled by federal or state drugstores start to sell, 10-20-30 million american persons can feel relief. They can get a little high, and get help with rehab. Just like when on of the worlds history's richest men, Al Capone, suddenly lost all his income source. The brutal narcos in Colombia, Mexico and the US lose all their incomes at once. Spending on the unwinnable war is over.

Commercial kidnapping will follow and places like EAFIT, UPB, Poblado, Parque Lleras will have armed visitors looking for objects. Just like Argentina had it under the 1970 until 1985. With success I must add.

This means that war are coming from the jungle, those with amnesty, but still psychopaths came to Comuna 13. All of Medellin pay tribute to these gangs. Even Exito. This is not babble. I personally know a high level, very serious man, that told me this. Medellin city are trying to get a Peace Treaty with this groups.

They are perfect for the groups that will loose $US XY billions. They control parts of the city. They know every corner of it.

Kidnappings, already commercial, will increase. Paying "multa", protection involve to many persons and and the hard core warriors will stop it. But they will instead, with very few hands to share $USXY billions for a kidnapping. Insurance premiums will multiply, but 90% it also brings back the victims to their families.

As long as Colombia has 42% of the formal incomes in the hands of 10% of the population -violence is choosing between a life long slavery and a quick death or a small, small chance of getting away with the money. Still, it's rational.

15 families owns Colombia. They care about themselves and their internal competition. Colombia is the land they use to exploit. It's the same pattern in Argentina.

In Colombia absolute poverty still are the reality for 20%-25% of the population. The 10% richest 42%, is probably much, much higher since they are experts in hiding assets.

The lowest have 10% of the Colombians have 1% of GNP.

Education and industrial progress have given back Medellin it's position of "Colombias Barcelona". Many can now have a decent life. The only problem is that the people who belongs to the circle of the real middle-class are not allowing them to get fair payment.

EAFIT engineer gets 4 M COP, CENA engineer gets 2 M COP. And can not enter Laureles and still belongs to Estrato 3, not 4, which is a huge difference. The arrogance is striking. Even worse than american arrogance, but that is part of another phenomenon, narcissism. (DSM took it away from the list as a mental illness, since so many american are now so self-obtained that is, according to how DSM define things, a normal state of mind.).

That lead to "brain drain". Argentina has had it since the military regimes and currency manipulations started in the 60's. These people leave, now there is a recession in the world. Not even prepagos make much money in Europe.

Medellin, can get more violent again. 4 a Brigada will have 24/7 of work.

2013 Laureles had 4 murders and it's a huge part of the city, Poblado had o or 1, while the poverty and murders make company in the poorest Comunas.

My excellent teacher in Spanish, Gustavo, has a passion for his work. Since he is stuck in Estrato 3, he can never get a salary or position that is what less talented Estrato 4 people have; EPS (health care is a joke), salary is just above poverty line, he belongs officially to the middle class, but he is trying with all his effort to find a country to find a new life in.

Quebec has made a strategy out of this; they pick up these Estrato 3 engineers, give them a 5 year Visa to begin with; they consider their education to be good, the also finds paisas (or Colombians in general) to be very adoptive when entering a new culture.

FDI, will be the solution. Colombia has a well trained army and can, it hoped peace had come, but new task are ahead of them guarding rich people.

FDI doesn't care about Estrato 3, 4, 5 which Colombians belonging to the higher ones finds disturbing, but the money involved and the competition and need for professional personal can -finally give the chance for persons like Gustavo, to stay in his country and make good money.

Medellin has a real estate crash in ahead if it, if already yet not in full effect. All the way from Medellin to the Airport in Rio Negro is filled with projects. Who can afford it?

Foreigner investers know about the tunnel and all that, but market capitalism is dynamic and is in constant crisis of any kind, but still growing. Colombia, having adopting US policy, will have new type of crisis.

In terms of FDI and kidnappings there is a strong connection. Colombia's army, thinking peace had arrived and showing of to the girls with elegant uniforms and fancy titles, wage races, instead can once again meet the horrors being alone with PDS-disorder.

No way Colombia will accept that again, after having managed to be becoming normalized and the reputation are slowly but constantly betting better, will accept to loose what is under construction.

Medellin is in the center of all this. The city, the metropolis, has a way better position of growth than Bogota, Cali, Cartagena or Barranquilla. Bucaramanga will also grow fast.

But as I stated in the very beginning; bad reputation and the weak understanding from the Rich English speaking world are very sensible to bad news about kidnappings in Colombia. FDI needs to bring personal into Colombia and they can of course spend their time at The Country Club in San Fernando de Pereira, but still, men with small kids are very unlikely to take risks, their families, their wifes would never forgive him, if he takes a desicion to move to Medellin from Bern, and Matthias 5 yo is kidnapped and found dead!

Scandinavia did have none of these problems before. None. Solid. World famous society model. It is falling apart. At least 100.000 muslims enter each year. 1990 we had 3 "ghetto" defined as where 50% of adult population where unemployed. Today we have 150. There muslim sharia laws rules. 50 barrios are run by young muslim gangsters.

US and Colombia have had alliance since decades. Colombia has lost respect among it's people and countries like Ecuador, Venezuela, but it has been worth it.

US & Colombia know that if somewhat limited problems can be held back, all those de luxe houses along the carretera from Medellin to Rio Negro will be filled up.

Instead of building a wall, US must, like it once capitulated against alcohol, do a controlled retread on the drugs. US can become a solid strong investor in Medellin, instead of spending $US billions of tracking down drug trafficking.

Just like Hillary Clinton proudly talks about the success of Plan Colombia, a FDI, a way of using opportunities, the so for poor people desired middle-class life, can be created.

For us, prepago prices might rise, or just supply, since competition will be strong.

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Salome was my first try to lower price.

I have got 5 responses on ISG to her FB link.

Paisasdivinas, which for sure are divine, professional, take 120.000, minus what the casa takes.

Why then pay barrio girl 150 + "bello-taxi".

Always think; you have the upper hand. You can always pick another girl or stay sexually frustrated, which Tantric Sex is all about. Control it.

She looses actual income that are needed. You always think; I'm old and ugly, she is young and pretty, and in SEx Prison I get nothing, unless I lower my standard are are prepared to by a nice car on credit and mortages that gives you constant nightmares, or migrane.

1th world guys have an advantage, but we are not using it. It takes time to get self esteem. But it comes.

(USA has defeated, before that saved Europe from both Hitler & Stalin. Defeated in the sense that US culture, economics, foreign policy is dominating us. The US politics, Hollywood, FED, growth rate, crisis, presidential election are more interesting than our own. Not to mention what US is up to in it's Foreign Policy. We lack though clowns in the politics, a guy like Trump, Europe come as close as Berlusconi, quickly frozen out by serious politicans as Angela Merkel, Sarkozy, Gordon Brown, almost excluding Italy from all the governing of the European Union, what will happen if Trump become president? That will be an era that can change the relations, hard to repair, nor forget!

One thing american lacks is vacations. That is sole your fault that prices are rocketing where ever you go. Lack of time! A lost fuck. And it's like a lost month of recovering.

Then my conclusion is simple- don't go where gringos go, since they always overpay.

There are american that get it are strong enough to get that extra 10 days free and hence slow down.

Some guys are contractors and are free for month and just enjoy the Magic Of Medellin.

Well, I hope, this was not my Idea, it comes from paisa-american and puerto rican etc. Guys.

I just hope the word spread around and we get a lot more for our money.

My, the thing is even a theory a nightmare, prepago-wife, had an customer by my recommendation. She thought 500 for TDL was "muy poca plata". But she just sleeps. That guy is a sleeper, maybe she meant his snore, hihi. Anyway, at her casa she got 120.000 - the casa fee which I assume is 30-40.0000, and I assume some day there where no or maybe one customer.

It is like paisas, and caleñas, assume, like they dream of the Prince on the White Stallion, or better comparison, Papa Noel, Santa Claus.

Does paisas hate their work so much so the dream about getting overpaid on a daily basis makes them disappointed.

Marriage doesn't either interest them, even if I'm humble as a little lamb!

Paisas, OK there have been a few, that has been interested for a real relationship, but Scandinavia means. Would you move to Canada? To Prince Edward Island and have a high salary, but stuck. I have to combine, but being stuck, just freezing going out with the garbage. Medellin wins, since Cali is to hot and Bogota is expensive and a normal taxi fare is +1 hour, while it's 5-20 minutes in Medellin.

So, young and wild, not having anything, and opportunity of nothing; why don't these pretty little babes; go to the gym, dress up; and them complete with some surgery if necessary? They like to it way around. First absurd and at best medium made surgery boobs and ass after having saved and worked for nothing in a El centro casa.

A guy told me, 23 yo, is old in Medellin. They start surgery at 17, which means, that we also must control their cedula for not getting into trouble!

Well, facts stay; they go home pennyless, you control your frustration by Tantric Sex, it's easy to learn, since motivation is automatically high!

Then we all can enjoy, what the (often medium) service is worth. Most girls need a diet and a gym program.

A detail; at Bodytech Laureles 2014, I was the only gringo. Starting at 5-6 am before work, and then after work until 9-11 pm, there where so many sexy girls almost naked with perfect bodies. The Elite! The cost of this gym is paradoxly 200% what I pay in Scandinavia, with basically the same 1st class equipment, even better here. The prestige to work there, to go there, it's showing that you belong to the 1st Class of Girls. They where both improved with surgery and working out, in some cases for hours, I was impressed as you see, so I exaggerate. But having ben there before work starts 5-8 am, you see so much 1/2-2/3 nude sexy bodies in positions that make your day!

As a sole gringo I felt, I could hardly do anything, privacy is taken for granted, but of course there where chances to develop, the same at Bodytech on Avenida Colombia 2013. But that in Laureles is 2-3 bigger. Priceworthy is to have a personal trainer. The cost is 10-15% of what you pay in the US!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1857088] I don't know about changing money because I use the ATMs. [/QUOTE]When abroad I always use ATM's. Is there an ATM in the arrival hall of Medellin international airport (Rio Negro)?

[QUOTE=Menteng;1863847]When abroad I always use ATM's. Is there an ATM in the arrival hall of Medellin international airport (Rio Negro)?[/QUOTE]Yes, si señor!

Right after customs, pass the welcome crowd, pass the first coffee bar, on your right.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1863847]When abroad I always use ATM's. Is there an ATM in the arrival hall of Medellin international airport (Rio Negro)?[/QUOTE]What do you think? Is there ANY airport in the world where there are no ATMs?

Years ago, I reported here a funny story. I was queuing to withdraw my money from the ATM at the Medellin airport, when the guy before me left the ATM very angry and disappointed. I asked why, if the ATM was not in service, and he replied "These ATMs dispense ONLY US DOLLARS!! But I want COP!"

That silly guy saw the ATM screen offering $100,000, $200,000, $300,000,.... And he thought it was dispensing DOLLARS (!!).
I wonder if he also thought if his daily allowance was enough to withdraw 100,000 dollars?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1862776]About 3 weeks ago my girl started kicking around the idea of going to school. She said that she wanted to go for secretarial. A couple of days later she said she wanted to go for dental assistant. I told her that she really didn't need to go until she settled on what it was she really wanted to do. All the while it was running through my mind how was she going to pay for it. Maybe there was a grant or special assistance or something.

Well last week she was informed that her Gringo Grant had not been approved and she chose to cancel her subscription to this dick.

She said that she needed me to help her pay for school or she would have to go work in a club. I asked her which club she was going to work in. She said no a club where the women dance naked. I said that is fine. Just let me know where and I can come see you there.

She was livid and told me to look for another woman. She does not want to be with a man who would prefere his woman be a prostitute. I said well I do not prefer it, but I understand that you have to do what you need to do in order to pay your things.

She said we were finished and she was going to look for someone that really loves her. I guess to her love means paying for her to go to school. I told her good luck with that. There are many more where that one came from.[/QUOTE]My real paisa love, Andrea, went so mad that she might have attacked me with a knife, acid or anything, for revenge. I was just waiting her for grab a knife, when she after, what some felt like a mental execution, gradually calmed down.



Paisas are putas, but they also have a heart. And it's complicated. Andrea preferred to work as MFC, F4 F webcam model, instead of begging me or her mother for money. Her day; MFC, Univeristy Classes, Crossfit, University Classes or MFC again and then home. To organize the home and homework. I offered her money for what she would not loose what she gained from the MFC work, it was in June/July and the University had closed for 2 weeks. She refused.

She took pills with Guarana to enhance physical performance, but she could not sleep, then she was tired all day, always with a 24/7 scheme. She got a rage attack that was scary. Thanks God she had not a knife of acid close to her.

She turned into a puta. I met her when she was 18, a month before her 19th birthday. We went with my friends to all the nice villages around Medellin, and her behavior was perfectly normal, adult. I have met youngsters or money-crazy over-operated girls before and been ashamed , but she was adult at a very young age.

But competition changed her. She needed suddenly to make plastic surgery, study both economics and English, Crossfit, and be the perfect daughter, she is the oldest of 3.

When we met she was younger, and my friends had some fun of that, but we fell in love. Her controlling mother and her obedience to her left me alone 3 Saturday Nights, the 4th I went to Yeraldin, since the Cena with the family I was invited to was cancelled.

I lost my -cheap- cellphone, but she had been calling all day, the Cena where to be!

I arrived at my friends restaurant at 9 m, Andrea had called me all day!

Half year later, on Skype, I confessed, and I saw her mentally, physically falling apart.

After that is was no until June 2015 she finally blocked me, Yeraldin got a 17 yo novia.

But both are putas. Andrea had been with a Canadian man, she forgot herself, I also allowed my novia showing off with a dildo in front of the gringos travelling to Medellin.

I was very tolerant. Those performance enhancing drugs, for getting rid of 1 pound of fat, that just would not let go, made her crazy. (Just before we met the first time she had been 2 months in the hospital for exhaustion and got one turn more a year later)

Her personality changed from a honest young adult to a lying puta. Totally unresonable! The Yeraldin is still around part-time hookering, PM for her FB to book a meeting with her.

Her body is a pure 10. 95% by gym, and last 5% from just a small enhancement of her breasts.

Andrea are also prepago, put I don't where and how she operates. Mostly I think she pick up gringos on MFC and F4 F and meet them in private (reality).

A Viking with a broken heart. I could not resist Yeraldin, and spending my last Saturday Night before going home, had been unbearable.!

I payed my price.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1863992]Paisas are putas, but they also have a heart. And it's complicated...I offered her money for what she would not loose what she gained from the MFC work, it was in June/July and the University had closed for 2 weeks. She refused.[/QUOTE]Paisas are not putas although some putas are Paisas. And it is not complicated at all. I have never had problems getting a woman. I do this mongering thing just for the fun of it and for variety. This is pretty much why I rarely do repeats. I don't care if there was a cape with an S on it hanging out of her pussy. I have already fucked this one, now I want to see what that one is like.

I have never and will never give financial support to a woman that I was dating. At that point she would be my hooker and not be my girlfriend. And when money comes up from a supposed regular chick then I offer to them that they can be my hooker and I will give them X amount every time we fuck - but that is as far as the relationship will go. I like to call a spade a spade so I will make them repeat that they are my hooker and nothing else. Crackheads and methheads have hearts too, but you probably would not go financially supporting one. So why is it so easy for guys to do it with hookers (even under the guise of she is a studying, poor, blah blah blah)?

[QUOTE=Menteng;1863847]When abroad I always use ATM's. Is there an ATM in the arrival hall of Medellin international airport (Rio Negro)?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Balboa;1863865]Yes, si seor!

Right after customs, pass the welcome crowd, pass the first coffee bar, on your right.[/QUOTE]The ones that Balboa mentioned are very convenient, two Bancolombia ATM's, on the arrival level. If those are not working or you want a different bank, go up the stairs in that same area and there are numerous ATM"s from other banks very close to the top of the stairs.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1864016]Paisas are not putas although some putas are Paisas. And it is not complicated at all. I have never had problems getting a woman. I do this mongering thing just for the fun of it and for variety. This is pretty much why I rarely do repeats. I don't care if there was a cape with an S on it hanging out of her pussy. I have already fucked this one, now I want to see what that one is like.

I have never and will never give financial support to a woman that I was dating. At that point she would be my hooker and not be my girlfriend. And when money comes up from a supposed regular chick then I offer to them that they can be my hooker and I will give them X amount every time we fuck - but that is as far as the relationship will go. I like to call a spade a spade so I will make them repeat that they are my hooker and nothing else. Crackheads and methheads have hearts too, but you probably would not go financially supporting one. So why is it so easy for guys to do it with hookers (even under the guise of she is a studying, poor, blah blah blah)?[/QUOTE]Good argumentation!

But if differences in wage / hour is ten times to your favor. And will stay so, not just a period.

Generally, I agree, wages are going up, and if the man pays for all the fun, it should be enough.

A gift maybe, but doing it regular, then I agree; it becomes a relationship with strong client-prepago.

It seems very much more sensible when the man comes from a rich country. If a man in Canada works while the Canadian wife studies, it is not the same issue.

Damn, I have never had problems getting a nice paisa, it's all around that makes it complicated.

I need a hot paisa as novia, and as you I seldom repeat. There is a contradiction. If she stays with me using me as a ATM, she goes to another one, if I say no. University education here means 400% difference in wage, while I with 36+18 hours a week, just being a friend to a handicapped man, makes the same as an engineer.

I've still got the libido and looks and then I when I will take out my pension and work simultaneously. After a certain point in life, money is all that you have, might be better to spend while "young". After that point you only have prepagos, they have the power, at 45 and juvenile, you still have some powder left! At +66, when you can be 100% sure that money is the sole factor.

The men are for gods sake smaller than our females in Scandinavia! It would give you a 10 extra years, at least. Culture also allows age difference.

Since 2009, and typical for Colombia, and maybe Medellin, girls are like Hydras. They play, act so many roles, that I in periods get mentally burned out. In the sense that I don't believe a word of what they are saying. They are always acting.

Maybe giving up and pay what the damn prepago needs!

I have lived in Latin countries since 1998, maybe 30% of 16 years. Colombia, since Brazil have been far to expensive and Venezuela far to complicated and maybe dangerous, Dom. Rep. Are reported boring to live in. You are the meat; but after a week you get tired of the place. In Medellin there are enough European looking persons so I can blend in, a very important factor.

How much is then your "fee" / semester. For an University career in economics maybe it's 1 M COP / month at E.A.F.I.T. That will be the fee, for a semi-real relationship. In Bogota a girl needed 6.7 or 7.6 per semester, in "Comunicacion Social". While C.E.N.A. or S.E.N.S.A. cost a fraction of that. But there are also Icetex, that is student loans, so she can spend the money you give her and when she have got her job she pays back in a slow pace, with minimal interest rate.

Marriage; I heard from a Brazilian couple; after divorce the female can demand the X-husband constant economic support. And such things much be investigated in detail. I would love to get married, but if it means the end of my travelling / living in.

, around Medellin paying my, for example, $US 25.000 to a calculating sociopath, and they are a lot of them; much due to the intensive competition, it's again complicated, with the more seriousness and responsibility you take, the less you get!

Thanks for the reactions.

I been to CR a few times, Rio a couple of times, and once to Thailand. I'm getting a little confused. Seems like there is no solid location to meet pre-pagos in a social setting in Medellin. Am I right? I'm not going to be there long enough for.

Romance. I joined LAC and CC save your money those dating sites are a complete waste for what some of us are looking for. Mostly Spam and old profiles. Now can anyone tell me where I can find something like this that I met at Cocal.

When I visited Jaco. Cein for 90 minutes at our apartment. It was well worth it. I don't want to pay a bar fine and I'm not up for the bait and switch. Do casa chicks meet outside?

[QUOTE=TicaToj;1864500]I been to CR a few times, Rio a couple of times, and once to Thailand. I'm getting a little confused. Seems like there is no solid location to meet pre-pagos in a social setting in Medellin. Am I right? I'm not going to be there long enough for.

Romance. I joined LAC and CC save your money those dating sites are a complete waste for what some of us are looking for. Mostly Spam and old profiles. Now can anyone tell me where I can find something like this that I met at Cocal.

When I visited Jaco. Cein for 90 minutes at our apartment. It was well worth it. I don't want to pay a bar fine and I'm not up for the bait and switch. Do casa chicks meet outside?[/QUOTE]If you going to be in Medellin only for a short time, do not be a cheap charlie. Go to the casas and speak to the girls and have a good time. What works for one might not work for others. Pay to play. Sparrow you are getting to be more strange with every post you book you post, but continue to have fun.

[QUOTE=TicaToj;1864500]I been to CR a few times, Rio a couple of times, and once to Thailand. I'm getting a little confused. Seems like there is no solid location to meet pre-pagos in a social setting in Medellin. Am I right? I'm not going to be there long enough for.

Romance. I joined LAC and CC save your money those dating sites are a complete waste for what some of us are looking for. Mostly Spam and old profiles. Now can anyone tell me where I can find something like this that I met at Cocal.

When I visited Jaco. Cein for 90 minutes at our apartment. It was well worth it. I don't want to pay a bar fine and I'm not up for the bait and switch. Do casa chicks meet outside?[/QUOTE]If you're looking for places that are the same as those destinations you mentioned, you will be sorely disappointed as Medellin is a normal city with other things going on and doesn't revolve around prostitution like the other places, mongers just delude themselves that it does because there are cheap options here and the ladies are very pretty and plentiful. If you don't like paying a bar fine at strip club, or using the internet to have a lady come visit you because she might bait and switch, then the casas are your only option or overpaying at the mansion, that is unless you speak Spanish and can get laid by non pros wherever you normally are (good talker, or young / handsome, etc). You can get casa chicks to visit after work, but they typically work 6 days a week and you might not want her after she's been through 10 guys earlier that day. If you had more time you could get them to work privately for you and maybe a couple other clients when they she no longer works at the casa, but on a short trip this in unlikely to occur.

All that aside, the lady in your photo is a dime a dozen here, easily found all over the place. If you speak spanish you'll be in heaven, if not then with the sounds of what you seek, you'll be relegated to half hour sessions in casas. While the strip clubs in Centro are more expensive than the casas, the bar fines are not out of hand, so you might try that option. I don't know how they compare to Thailand or Brazil since I have not been to those places. Also consider that $100 is about 305 mil pesos today, so even with a bar fine you should be paying far less than you did in Jaco.

[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1864541]If you're looking for places that are the same as those destinations you mentioned, you will be sorely disappointed as Medellin is a normal city with other things going on and doesn't revolve around prostitution like the other places, mongers just delude themselves that it does because there are cheap options here and the ladies are very pretty and plentiful. If you don't like paying a bar fine at strip club, or using the internet to have a lady come visit you because she might bait and switch, then the casas are your only option or overpaying at the mansion, that is unless you speak Spanish and can get laid by non pros wherever you normally are (good talker, or young / handsome, etc). You can get casa chicks to visit after work, but they typically work 6 days a week and you might not want her after she's been through 10 guys earlier that day. If you had more time you could get them to work privately for you and maybe a couple other clients when they she no longer works at the casa, but on a short trip this in unlikely to occur.

All that aside, the lady in your photo is a dime a dozen here, easily found all over the place. If you speak spanish you'll be in heaven, if not then with the sounds of what you seek, you'll be relegated to half hour sessions in casas. While the strip clubs in Centro are more expensive than the casas, the bar fines are not out of hand, so you might try that option. I don't know how they compare to Thailand or Brazil since I have not been to those places. Also consider that $100 is about 305 mil pesos today, so even with a bar fine you should be paying far less than you did in Jaco.[/QUOTE]Well I guess you could say I'm spoiled. If the Jaco girl is a dime a dozen then I'm sure to have a smile on my face no matter. Me and my buds did not do deep research before picking Medellin. Oh well too late now. LOL. We'll have a good time anyway. I speak some Spanish but I don't have time to wine and dine for a kiss goodnight. Sounds like the strip club scene may be the best option. I found a good link here.

Thanks for the advice.

[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1864541] ... Also consider that $100 is about 305 mil pesos today, so even with a bar fine you should be paying far less than you did in Jaco.[/QUOTE]I like & concur with your synopsis James. Good observations. I used to go to CR regularly until around 2009. I finally god bored with the whole scene there and from what I've heard, it's gone steadily downhill since. CR is a great country but I have gotten into Medellin; it rocks in comparison Your post made me realize that CR became to me a bit like going over and over to the same old Zoo. For me, CR was (and still is for many) very cool for a limited time. IMO, the contrast with MDE is more like going from a Zoo (CR) to an open range of an African Savanna (MDE) where the big game roams free along with greater rewards, thrills and mind-expanding challenges.

During the day, hit up CASAs. New Life and others. Get contact numbers of the girls you like.

Make connections with facebook girls get their numbers on whatsapp too.

Strip Clubs, Fase Dos, San Diego.

*After the strip club closes there is a place that many go. Open till early morning. Anyone remember the name and location?

Some facebook girls / mansion girls / casas / strippers / student models.

*YMMV. Hard to make recommedations on any girls, everyone experience is different, pricing, etc.

Ely Pineda.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/ely.pineda.165[/URL]

Angelica Arango.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/angelica.arango.1840[/URL]

Stefania Monslave.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010555650785[/URL]

Lala Mora.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/LJMAR[/URL]


Karol Mona.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/karol.mona[/URL]


Juliana Velez.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/juliana.velez.940[/URL]



Jessica Franco.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/jessica.fra...175633?fref=ts[/URL]

Sarita Passo.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/sarashirleypossoarango[/URL]

AleJa Velsquez.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/alejalabella17[/URL]

Johana Gomez.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/bella.velez.969[/URL]

Lorean Atehortua.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/lorena.atehortuam[/URL]

Laura Bedoya.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/lauri.bedoya.5[/URL]

Mariale Londono.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/alejitaa.londono.5[/URL]

Pucca Garcia.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/caro.zuluaga.98?fref=ts[/URL]

Leydi Johana Alvarez Gutirrez.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/leydijohana.alvarezgutierrez[/URL]

Gimena Zpt.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/paola.klle.1[/URL]

Alejandra Azul.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/moradita0512[/URL]

Carolǐna Ayala.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/lola.ayala.9250[/URL]

Cristina Arb.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/cristinaestradaa[/URL]

Sarhiita P-erez.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100006632265904[/URL]

Daniela Gomez.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/daniela.arroyavegomez.3[/URL]

Barbiee Steph.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/barbiee.yami[/URL]


Jennifer Lozano.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.lozano.5832?fref=ts[/URL]

Sofia Munoz Vazquez.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/maria.londonodelujan?fref=ts[/URL]

Katty Velz.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100005698770217[/URL]

Johana Rodriguez.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/kelly.rodriguez.142[/URL]

3147981689.

Sara Flakita Osorio.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/sara.flakita.64[/URL]

Jessica Franco.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/jessica.franco.35175633[/URL]

[QUOTE=TicaToj;1864500]I been to CR a few times, Rio a couple of times, and once to Thailand. I'm getting a little confused. Seems like there is no solid location to meet pre-pagos in a social setting in Medellin. Am I right? I'm not going to be there long enough for.

Romance. I joined LAC and CC save your money those dating sites are a complete waste for what some of us are looking for. Mostly Spam and old profiles. Now can anyone tell me where I can find something like this that I met at Cocal.

When I visited Jaco. Cein for 90 minutes at our apartment. It was well worth it. I don't want to pay a bar fine and I'm not up for the bait and switch. Do casa chicks meet outside?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1864617]Some facebook girls / mansion girls / casas / strippers / student models.

*YMMV. Hard to make recommedations on any girls, everyone experience is different, pricing, etc....[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing Surf!

Too bad most of the time when trying to add a popular girl. You get this message: "This person has reached the friend request limit and can't accept any more."

But sometimes a girl makes a second account and is on her friends list. Also just adding their friends is a good way to find new girls.

The popular girls are available, and are putas. Just not the ones you will see at Mansion or casas. Even if they add you on facebook they may not reply back your messages.

There are few lucky gringos who have gotten with these type of girls. You just need connections I guess in Medellin.

Other than that. Its Casas and strip clubs, mansion girls. The 9/10's are harder to get in Medellin.

Like this one.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/jessica.franco.35175633[/URL]

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1865056]Thanks for sharing Surf!

Too bad most of the time when trying to add a popular girl. You get this message: "This person has reached the friend request limit and can't accept any more."

But sometimes a girl makes a second account and is on her friends list. Also just adding their friends is a good way to find new girls.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;1864018]The ones that Balboa mentioned are very convenient, two Bancolombia ATM's, on the arrival level. If those are not working or you want a different bank, go up the stairs in that same area and there are numerous ATM"s from other banks very close to the top of the stairs.[/QUOTE]I noticed the CitiBank ATM's weren't working the day and read they are pulling out of South America. Unfortunate because when all the other don't take your debit card Citi always came through. Bring lots of Dollars if Citi is gone! We are up and running with our first hobbyist arriving tomorrow for the weekend! First timer who wants two dates who like to dance and a tour! The Jacuzzi should be going soon! We have some new pics up on the Colombia Jake website. Here are some pics of the new place!

Thanks,

Colombia Jake

[QUOTE=TicaToj;1864500]I been to CR a few times, Rio a couple of times, and once to Thailand. I'm getting a little confused. Seems like there is no solid location to meet pre-pagos in a social setting in Medellin. Am I right? I'm not going to be there long enough for.

Romance. I joined LAC and CC save your money those dating sites are a complete waste for what some of us are looking for. Mostly Spam and old profiles. Now can anyone tell me where I can find something like this that I met at Cocal.

When I visited Jaco. Cein for 90 minutes at our apartment. It was well worth it. I don't want to pay a bar fine and I'm not up for the bait and switch. Do casa chicks meet outside?[/QUOTE]I see the CR chica cein union is alive and well in Jaco too!

Well that's one thing you won't find in Medellin.

[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1864541]If you're looking for places that are the same as those destinations you mentioned, you will be sorely disappointed as Medellin is a normal city with other things going on and doesn't revolve around prostitution like the other places, mongers just delude themselves that it does because there are cheap options here and the ladies are very pretty and plentiful. If you don't like paying a bar fine at strip club, or using the internet to have a lady come visit you because she might bait and switch, then the casas are your only option or overpaying at the mansion, that is unless you speak Spanish and can get laid by non pros wherever you normally are (good talker, or young / handsome, etc). You can get casa chicks to visit after work, but they typically work 6 days a week and you might not want her after she's been through 10 guys earlier that day. If you had more time you could get them to work privately for you and maybe a couple other clients when they she no longer works at the casa, but on a short trip this in unlikely to occur.

All that aside, the lady in your photo is a dime a dozen here, easily found all over the place. If you speak spanish you'll be in heaven, if not then with the sounds of what you seek, you'll be relegated to half hour sessions in casas. While the strip clubs in Centro are more expensive than the casas, the bar fines are not out of hand, so you might try that option. I don't know how they compare to Thailand or Brazil since I have not been to those places. Also consider that $100 is about 305 mil pesos today, so even with a bar fine you should be paying far less than you did in Jaco.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with just about all of that. Good breakdown.

You can be in monger heaven or not. Medellin is pretty diverse. Many different ways to slice the pie.

Just got back from Yakusa, and am sitting at my hotel in La Sententa (Estadio). I am struggling with a with Spanish keyboard. Please bear with me.

Checked out Taberna Victoria and had a quick beer there before moving on. It could have been a good time, but tonight was not the night. I recommend Taberna Victoria if you have a wingman, or maybe a small group because it just seems like a place for guys to have fun and maybe get laid, instead of a destination for a monger looking to score.

Yaksua sits on Carrera 50 A, a short street directly behind Hotel Nutibara, where you catch your the omnibus to the airport (though it seems like we were dropped off elsewhere on the ride in. If you want to catch a chica before you catch the autobus home, this is the place.

This place is a long way down from Energy, which was my first destination, and definitely not on the same level as Aifee, where I began my day. You just stroll in the door next to the Love Hotel Deseos. No buzzer or closed door, just a bunch of young guys talking to a cute, young female at the door. I asked her, Is this Yakusa? She nodded and motioned me in. There was a guy standing inside as I stepped past a curtain and took a seat on a chair. There was nobody at the helm, when I arrived. Then a attractive brunette in lingerie passed by, noticed me, and gave me a WTF look, like this was not supposed to happen. She introduced herself as Alexandra. I liked her looks, but it was clear she was tired and it was close to their closing time. Eventually another young lady showed up, introduced herself and gave me the proper greeting, quoted prices and offered me a drink (which is extra, BTW). 40 k for 30 minutes and 60 k for the an hour, plus 5 k for the beer I got from the fridge. The line up was haphazard. The girls were in an adjoining room separated by a curtain (or was that just a sheet). They kept popping out, walking into the lineup and introducing themselves, instead of marching out in any particular order. It was a mess as far as presentation. They were not a terribly attractive bunch, but not homely or fat, and definitely YOUNG. But, the whole thing was like a pajama party of college age girls. There were males present but they were not involved. There was no mature Mamasan to be found. It was like when your parents leave for the weekend and you invite your friends over to party. I picked the shortest one, Luna, as she called herself, because I wanted to try a spinner. She looked to weigh about 70 pounds, had one side of her hair in cornrows and a few cheap tattoos. Trashy looking yet appealing. Anyways, the money was collected by the aforementioned substitute madame. Then Luna and I went into one of the two makeshift rooms I saw. Just a twin bed, no shower. About 5 x7 feet. A cubicle, basically. No fan or radio, just a wastebin. I undressed and so did Ms. Luna who wanted to see my phone so so she add herself to my contact list. I asked if I could give her number to other Americanos in Medellin. She nodded with great enthusiasm, so PM if you want her number. Before we got going though she stepped outside butt naked and came back with a soft drink. However, the name she put in the contact was DANIELA. Miss Luna / Daniela suddenly looked very young. I asked her age and she said 28. I am thinking she is closer to 28 minus 10, but she had a see section scar which isn't an innocent young girl either. To her credit, she got down to business very quickly and let me kiss her on the mouth and exchange tongues a bit. Then she rubbed some warming lube on my johnson for a bit, then went direct down on me, and gave me a BBBJ. The other girls I had this week were giving nominal covered BJ. But Miss Luna almost made me cum, she was doing such a good job. At that point she climbed onto me and started to push my cock into her pussy. Thats when I said STOP and handed her the Kimono condom I brought. She didn't even bring a condom with her. This was seriously risky in my book and she complied and loaded the condom on with her mouth. She hopped on and then started working hard. This girl had stamina to be sure. But I had already blown a load earlier at Aifee and I wasn't coming anytime soon. The place was hot and there was no fan or any ventilation in the room. I felt ready to finish and turned on her back, pulled her legs up and pounded that littel twat, which was not that snug despite her tiny size. I couldn't come when I wanted to, and I was getting hot as well as tired. I pulled out and asked if she could give me a hand job, but she sucked me a while before lubbing up my nuts and giving me a great HJ until I blew my depleted nuts. I would have loved one of those showers that are offered everywhere else, but there was none in sight. Then tiny Miss Luna started hitting me up for money to pay for stuff for her 7 month old son. That kind of ruined it for me. I dressed in a hurry and left because she began to grovel.

In summary, Yakuza is a good place for a quick one, if you seek a prostitute sorority house experience. This place is very low budget but fun. I am leaving tomorrow but before I hop onto the bus I might pay a visit to Yakuza. If I do, pray you don't sit next to me on the Spirit flight to FLL. I will smell like fuck. If you are arriving by Omnibus from MDE and you want to get serviced ASAP, then Yakuza is not far.

Thanks a lot, Eszpresszo!

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1865851]Thanks a lot, Eszpresszo!![/QUOTE]Thanks for your great map, Matt. It gave me some good direction. I even checked out the street action in Centro, though I did not partake. I might as well do a quick summary on that scene while I am sitting here and thinking about it.

On the Medellin lists thread there is a list of spots for steet action in Centro. Member #4394's map also shows some location for streetwalkers, as well. I knew this were not nice places to be after dark. But. I was in Centro the other night, near Plaza Botero, when I decided I would shout at the devil and check it out. Heading east on Calle 53 I began to pass some girls on the street or some standing in the traffic island. I passed a gaggle of girls in their early to mid-teens, who started calling out to me loudly. I kept walking. Ocassionally someone would shout "Hey Gringo". Now one thing I learned in my brief stay in Colombia is that respectable, upright Colombians, which is 99% of the population, don't say that to you. As I got towards the Hotel Morgan at Carrera 54, you will seem them clustered around it. In fact, check out that location on Google Maps, and you will obvious streetwalkers in daylight standing around the hotel. At night some bars open up and you can see girls sitting inside.

One thing I noticed about that area is the presence of offset printing businesses. Offset printing is dead in the First World and digital printing is dying as we go to a paperless environment. But in MDE, I saw morning commuters walking down the street with a newspaper in hand. I used to work in the graphic arts, so I recognized the smell of printing ink and the slapping sound of printing presses at work. If the area had not been so dicey at night, I would have poked around a bit more out of professional curiosity.

The girls there did not look too impressive and few of them smiled. While there were plenty of girls, there were many more males just sitting around a line of motorcycles out front on the Calle and adjoining Carerra 54. This looked like a great place to get robbed, as it was kind of dark. I did notice that some girls were sitting in the bars or in the doorway of some of the hotels in this area. In general, a girl sitting inside a business or at the entrance seemed to be better groomed, and I wonder if they were being sponsored by the business, or they were able to pay a commission. I decided to head back, and passed what I think were trannies, and not very well-groomed trannies at that. However, I am pretty sure the bulk of the "girls" I saw were genuine, judging by their build. I passed the group of teenage girls again, who were sitting with a bunch of teenage guys now. They called out again, and one of them came running after me. She looked about 13. I smiled and said, No gracias. Nice girls don't hang around these streets after dark.

The next morning, I decided to get an early shot at one of the Day Casas, since I wanted to try another venue later in the day. I decided to check out the other location for street action in the daylight. I went past the Museo Antioch and in front of the Iglesia Veracruz there were already girls at work. You will know them when you see them, because of the way that they dress and they will make eye contact. Those aren't the best looking ones, nor are the ones you seem, when you stroll down the side of the church. But, walk down the Calle 51 past the church, and onto Carerra 53. Again, Google Maps will give a good tour. I turned right on Carerra 53, which is just south of the location I visited the previous night. This is a busy commercial district during the day, full of people going about their business. Literally. It came off as very safe at that hour. Just check out the location on Google maps and you will see what I mean. You will also see chicas standing in the doorways of the hotels and businesses, as well. This is what you get during the day. And again, the better groomed girls are standing in the entrance of the hotels or just inside of a business (cafe, bar, etc.) You will know them when you see them, because they are just standing there, dressed like you would expect a prostitute to dress, while the other women you see there are preoccupied with work or commerce. I noticed some nice girls on the Carrera that morning. A younger, curvy black girl gave me a nice smile from inside the doorway of one of the hotels. I was tempted to jump at her, which is saying a lot because I really don't find black women attractive. Across the street a pretty, 20-something gave me that "look" from the door of another hotel. I was tempted to jump at her, as well. But, I was planning to visit Aiffe that morning (which I eventually did). And I figured, why eat hot dogs, when you can have hamburger?

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1866275]On the Medellin lists thread there is a list of spots for steet action in Centro...[/QUOTE]I know that area your talking about as I have a good friend who owns a printing business there, and so true that when I have visited him in his shop I have never seen anything better than a 4. A risky place to be after dark even for a Colombian man.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;1866430]I know that area your talking about as I have a good friend who owns a printing business there, and so true that when I have visited him in his shop I have never seen anything better than a 4. A risky place to be after dark even for a Colombian man.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your input. I am a tall man myself - 6' 4" - so you can imagine how I stood out amongst the locals.

[QUOTE=GringooFuk;1866371]How much on average will these girls cost if you actually get lucky with them to your wallet?[/QUOTE]Good question. Both of the Casa putas I engaged this week, offered me their number without my asking. Actually, they asked for my phone so they could put their contact info in there. Given that we are paying very little for their services to the house, I can imagine they are being paid even less than very little. That should help set a starting point for haggling if you knew what you paid the house to begin with. The fact that both of the girls were eager to give their contact info tells me that they are trying to make extra money, maybe build a customer base and go independent and cut out the middle man / madame.

One caveat: both of of the Centro casa girls also asked for a tip to help take care of their baby. I had the option of leaving at that point, but what do you do when they start panhandling you in your own environment (apartment or hotel room)? Then you have to tell them to leave.

Any other mongers have experience in this situation? Suggestions on pricing? Please chime in (and I do mean mongers who have experience, please).

Since this was my first mongering experience in Colombia, it reminds me that others reading this haven't been there either. So I try to write my trip reports for people who haven't been to these destinations and get tired of off topic posts and being told RTFF when they ask a newbie question. So I apologize if this is old news for some of you. But, forums like this thrive on details, not self indulgent chitchat.

This was my first visit to Colombia. I'd made it a priority to pop in some Colombiana on the day of my arrival. Energy was close to where I was staying in La Setenta, which is a great neighborhood to find affordable lodging and close to the metro. Its also a 15 minute stroll to Energy. Just walk past the metro station and cut through the massive recreation complex around the stadium if you want to save time. Don't worry about safety at night because the complex is a community place that has a visible security and police presence. The place is humming with activity in the evenings. Actually the surrounding Neighborhoods are nice too. Once you exit onto Carerra 74 just walk up the road a ways and Energy is sandwiched between three banks with ATMs. Convenient, huh? Just walk up the steps and ring the buzzer and expect a lady to open the door and greet you.

The Madame led me down to the downstairs to a couch in an alcove which is a viewing area defined by large, wooden, folding, dressing partition with horizontal slots cut at the top (some call this device a "room divider screen" or "dressing screen" Then came the parade of chicas. But before each girl presented herself, you could see their eyes peering at you from the slots in the top of the partition. It got to be a game to see the girls peek at you and try to guess how they would look by just seeing their eyes! Once they came around the partition they removed their short black smock to reveal themselves in their nominal lingerie. Then they do a 360 to show their back side and introduce themselves and they re-don their smock as they leave. I thought I saw a tag with a number on the smocks on the first visit but didn't notice it on the second visit. How would describe the lineup in a word? Lovely. Around nine girls (I wasn't counting) and a lovely bunch with overall with a few stunners. All but one hit me as pretty and that might just reflect my personal preferences. One petite girl was merely cute but she had a smile and confident presentation that almost had me choose her. But they all had great bodies. There were some with tatoos and a few appeared to have implants, a disqualifier for me. But there was no sign of baby damage in the entire lineup. I chose a younger slender girl with medium brown hair and light skin. She introduced herself as Marcela and said she was 22. The exotic White Latina. There was two other girls that I wanted to try as well, hopefully on another visit.

Madame quoted me 170 K for an hour, which jibed with their prices on the web site. (BUT, I paid less the next time I visited.) She took the cash, asked if I wanted a drink. I asked for a Scotch and she said Doppio? Yes a double for Dino, please.

Marcella appeared with my drink. I got to take me a deep pull off my drink and she led me upstairs up a flight of stairs and then up another flight to our room, which was small but nice. It reminded me of an expensive boutique hotel room. There was a radio and she went through the channels and settled on a station that played melodic or romantic rock and pop classics. I stripped down and she took me to the nice shower and ran some hot water so I got a nice quick washdown. The towels provided were nice and plush and after drying off she gave me nice massage on the bed. After my flight I really needed a good massage even if wasn't from a trained professional. Ms. Marcella turned me over and dabbed one warming lube on my crotch area. I had presented her with a Skyn condom because I don't like the cheap condoms they use at the brothels around the world and I am a large size. She looked at it with curiosity and put it on before starting a covered BJ. But she made a face and looked at the wrapper again before complaining about the taste. More proof that condoms don't belong in blowjobs! I switched to taking the Kimonos to the brothels after that and had no complaints about the taste.

After a so-so covered BJ, Marcella crawled and top and slid it in as I later found out all the chicas do by default. This is not something you would experience in Germany, my prior mongering destination. But of the four that mounted me on my trip she was the only one he could make me pop with me underneath. This girl could see I wasn't going to blow so easy so she turned around and did a reverse cowgirl with her pretty anus peeking at me. That did the job. As I started to cum she started to fake an orgasm which I thought was funny but some might find annoying.

After that she snuggled with me for awhile and despite a language barrier we managed a mild discussion about the musicians whose songs were on the radio. Phil Collins ending his career because of health issues and Chris Issak doing a big, upcoming show at the Ryman Auditorium in Nashville, etc. And as an hour approached she got up and ran me a shower and got in with me to rinse off together. After drying off and dressing it was right about an hour. She walked me downstairs to the entrance just as Casey and the Sunshine Band were singing "Plesae Don't Go" on the radio. I was walking out the door when the Madame rushed to catch me before I left. I didn't really understand what she was saying but I assumed it was asking how it went. She had her palm up by chance and I gave her a double high five and that got a big grin from her as I drifted back towards my hotel. It would not be my last visit. This place is truly nice and I recommend it on the facilities alone, but the talent is above average in my opinion. Yes, it does cost more than twice as much as a cheap Casa, but twice as much as "very little" still doesn't add up to much.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1866508]Since this was my first mongering experience in Colombia, it reminds me that others reading this haven't been there either. So I try to write my trip reports for people who haven't been to these destinations and get tired of off topic posts and being told RTFF when they ask a newbie question. So I apologize if this is old news for some of you. But, forums like this thrive on details, not self indulgent chitchat.

This was my first visit to Colombia. I'd made it a priority to pop in some Colombiana on the day of my arrival. Energy was close to where I was staying in La Setenta, which is a great neighborhood to find affordable lodging and close to the metro. Its also a 15 minute stroll to Energy. Just walk past the metro station and cut through the massive recreation complex around the stadium if you want to save time. Don't worry about safety at night because the complex is a community place that has a visible security and police presence. The place is humming with activity in the evenings. Actually the surrounding Neighborhoods are nice too. Once you exit onto Carerra 74 just walk up the road a ways and Energy is sandwiched between three banks with ATMs. Convenient, huh? Just walk up the steps and ring the buzzer and expect a lady to open the door and greet you..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report! I also will be a first timer to MDE in Jul. Great point you made about the RTFF comments. I am almost afraid to comment or ask a question for fear that it may have been mentioned in one part of one sentence in a 10 yr old thread then get lambasted by regular because I didn't RTFF!

Please keep posting about your trip with as many minute details as you wish. Some of us read these posts with interest & can gain a lot from your reports!

Thanks again!

El Mechanico

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;1866731]Thanks for the report! I also will be a first timer to MDE in Jul. Great point you made about the RTFF comments. I am almost afraid to comment or ask a question for fear that it may have been mentioned in one part of one sentence in a 10 yr old thread then get lambasted by regular because I didn't RTFF!

Please keep posting about your trip with as many minute details as you wish. Some of us read these posts with interest & can gain a lot from your reports!

Thanks again!

El Mechanico[/QUOTE]Read the forum back 2 years and you should find almost any answer you are seeking. Also read the reports of distinction thread. Contributors of information and pics to the forum only get upset when someone does not do there own due diligence before asking a question, or have a posting history but never contribute a field report of there trips allowing others to learn from there experiences.

On another note it is not cool to be posting facebook webpages or pics of the girls without there approval no matter if they are a working girl or not. People who do this deserve a serious beat down and have there fingers cut off.

My last trip I was walking around el centro at night. Very very sketchy as you need to know areas you should and should'nt stray into. Doubled back once as my buddy and I were sure we were being stalked as gringo = ATM.
We doubled back often. You get suspicious when you keep seeing the same face(s) despite changing directions like that.

The street action is of the wham bam type and pretty grundgy. Pay your 30 k take the chica into the parking garage, pull down her pants, pull down yours and 30 seconds later you are walking out of the garage. A little scary as the predominant customers are Colombians and they do ii sin condom.

I just came back from Ukraine for the second time and now on my way to Medellin. When I lived in Thailand and Brazil everything became the norm. Medellin is unfamiliar territory. That's the excitement of being a monger. You're experience are the best teacher.