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Again I have been caught writing with my "educated western girl from a developed country with a good health system" hat on. I do apologise. That was one of my standard spiels for clients of sex workers who, for the most part, had more than enough sexual health information available to them.
Spank me. I've been bad.
I dunno, RN, I've already got this pretty long list of spankings I owe you. I'm not sure my poor RSI-saddled wrists could hold up should I ever collect... :D
What about the flip side? What about going down on a girl which happens to be a staple of repetoire. I do not practice it indiscrimantely but I have been known to engage in it. Funnily enough, I do think that I once caught a cold that way :(, but it was worth it.
But what says you? Going down on a girl? What are the risks? Does the same apply to the giver of bbbj?
I am happy to announce publicly today that I have had succesfully my three moluscum blisters removed by laser, without any pain at all. According to the doctor, there will be no consequences, except if there was any more blister still unvisible, in process of formation, that might appear soon.
I would actually rather undergo this operation 10 times than going once to the dentist. This Pattaya hospital in Soi 4 is perfect. It all happened with a lot of smiles, quiet voices, slow gestures, sweet words, in the best Thai way, nothing in common with what we know in our Western hospitals. While the cute young nurse was cleanning my pubis, she started to chat me up whith the same english level and same type of questions bar girls use, like where I come from, how old I am and wether I am single or not. Then suddenly I was in a bit of a panic, as I felt a hard on coming, while the doctor was to enter the room any second. Enventually the female doctor in her 30s arrived, and they were both busy working on my pubis, and I was feeling nothing at all . They even used an icing system on the skin, so that I don't feel the needdle of the local anesthesy injection. So sweet... At the end, the doctor told me "Ok, tonight you can shower and... everything as usual". I nearly asked her if I could hospital-fine the nurse, but I thought that the 3500 B bill was enough for today.
RN, thank you for your advice concerning with a condom break.
How many days are given to take precautionary antibiotics? I understand that the sooner the better, but when is it too late?
Good for you Erik.
Congrats. You will sleep better and enjoy life a lot more.
RN,
In reference to getting herpes from a BBBJ, this is certainly possible and does happen.
I've read, however, that if the guy washes the area extensively that night with soap and water that the hepres virus can be literally washed away. Is this actually true or is this just wishful thinking?
Cupid Stunt -- yes, pretty much the same things apply, though there are some important differences as well. I don't believe there are any confirmed transmission of HIV in either direction from cunnilingus, and you need to add Hep B, molluscum contagiosum and chlamydia to the list.
Joe Zop,
If your HIV statistic is correct, I would think it's only because it would be difficult to confirm cunnilingus as being a primary culprit in HIV transmission due to the fact it's often only a prelude of intercorse which is considered a confirmed common spreader. It does not nessisarily mean HIV can not be transmitted this way.
I hear saliva helps kill the virus, but think about it, there is much trauma that goes on in your mouth during regular brushing and flossing (sometimes even bleeding), not unlike the normal trauma and microscopic skin abrasions caused by sex that HIV has been proven to infiltrate. Maybe RN can confirm any risk here.
If you must eat a high risk pussy, an HIV test clinic once recommended to me a product called "dental dam" or the use of an equivelent barrier of non-microwavable plastic wrap. I know that might be akward to incorperate into ones routine, but better safe than sorry. I personally found using it unappealing so I just refrain from eating SW pussy altogether and reserve it exclusively for my girlfriend. Lucky her. LOL!
J Burb
On Deck,
I cant advise on the best removal of a condom after sex other than "carefully", but I have discoved that passing ones condom covered stiffy through the dickhole of your underwear prior to intercorse can help protect the base of your penis and groin region from any potentially hazzardous vaginal fluids or skin to skin contact.
J Burb
J Burb, you may well be correct, as HIV is in vaginal fluids, but of course the number of confirmed infections via blowjob is also very low. A dental dam is definitely safer, and it's really not that hard to incorporate into the routine.
I'm not thrilled, however, with your condom removal process. Given that the fluids you're worried about are on the outside and not inside of the condom, your method would seem to allow those fluids to end up touching clothing which would then be touching you, not to mention staying attached to the clothing. IMHO you're better off simply putting one hand on the top of the condom and rolling it down, then washing your hand. I suppose you could put something on your hand as well, since obviously, unless you're wearing a glove theres some risk of infection via a cut on the hand, but the realistic chances are fairly minimal.
I used to take my blowjobs bareback only. In fact if she would not perform a BJ with no condom, I moved on. The sensation is just not the same with a condom. You want to know it's your dick she is sucking on and not a piece of rubber! However, I have in the past few months, changed my position on this. I rarely will even accept a BJ unless a condom is used, or she is hell A clean! And yes I know looks alone cannot determine if a provider is packing a disease.
The reason for this is simple. I used to buy into the theory that HIV could basically not be transmitted via oral sex. We have all heard this in the past. Also we have the CDC boasting about "no documented cases with a male receiving a bj" okay, fine. But what they won't tell you are the hundreds and hundreds of guys out there who claim with almost absolute certainty that they contracted HIV from a blowjob.
However, the CDC will not document their cases. Why? Because if a guy goes and and takes 101 blowjobs all without a condom, all from different girls, (for augments sake, lets say hookers) and he has one sexual intercourse, (EVEN WITH A CONDOM) and then he tests positive for HIV, they will not document the case as being contracted by oral! The reason is because in their little chart they use, oral is safer then intercourse even with a condom! Therefore they cannot with absolute 100% remove the intercourse as the possible transmission source!
Keep in mind in surveys done a few years ago 88% of men who seek P4P are doing so for oral sex! Most say they don't get this service at home, so they seek it elsewhere. (something for you hard-ass wives to think about)
Have you ever noticed how easily gums bleed? You also must assume most SW are not practicing the best oral hygiene. In fact most probably have tooth and gum decay. All it takes is for a small amount of blood to be present in their mouths! How the hell the CDC can run around saying receiving oral sex is safe because there has never been a "documented" case, is beyond me! It's criminal in my opinion. There have probably been tens of thousands of men catch HIV from receiving oral sex. Lots of hookers trying to pass it, lots have drug addiction, lots with bleeding gums, but if this guy ever fucked any of them, even with a condom! No documentation!
Best keep it covered for everything boys!
GETTINGTANG~!
You can really only 'early treat' GC/Chlamydia (there is an emergency prophylaxis protocol for HIV but this is not commonly used). Hep, you're fucked. There is an off the shelf recc for Aldara for molluscum (works on Condyloma) It uses your own body's immune system to take care of the virus. I suppose you could prophylax against Herpes but never seen any studies on it.
Emergency prophylaxis of GC/Chlamydia: It is not a scenario one encounters that often, even in an ER setting. Usually patients are seen who have symptoms or who have a partner who has recently tested positive. Still if one came with that scenario, I wouldn't have a prob in treating it. Funny that most patients seeking the morning after pill aren't concerned about STDs as well.
Standard of care for GC or Chlamydia is the following (usually you are treated for both at the same time);
Rocephin (Ceftriaxone) 125 mg IM OR Cipro 500 mg single dose (Cipro not as advised for SE Asia due to resistance). This is to treat the Gonorrhea
and
Azithromycin 1 gm single dose or Doxycycline 100 mg 2 X a day for 7 days . This is to treat the Chlamydia.
another accepted alternative is Azithromycin 2 gm single dose
I don't recommend guys going around dosing themselves with repeated or long-term prophylaxis because they choose not to wear condoms. You are only contributing to the pool of resistance going that route (one of the reasons Asia has resistance to fluoroquinolones -- overtreatment!).
GettingTang,
I think those 'hundreds and hundreds' of guys who claim to have gotten HIV from a blowjob were giving the BJ, not receiving.
Here's my question. Why on earth would you want to bother with getting a BJ with a condom? Much less paying for it? I fail to see how that is any more enjoyable than staying home and masturbating. (Of course for me the same could be said for intercourse with a condom). It seems to me that the 'is it worth even doing at all' factor comes in somewhere here.
Hi RN & JBurg & Degano and all others thanks for the advice .I do realise the risks involved and like u said who knows what she may be having.I just got checked recently and Thank God nothing to worry about on the report .I will now stop playing with my life and get under covers.Thanks once again for your help and advice in the matter.
On Deck