Sosua Reports

OK...I'm in Sosua right now and I'm reading all this shit on the board here and I have a hard time with it...everyone seems to have such a narrow view of the possibilities and the realities here.

Sure, the main drag is full of "tigras" at night, calling out to you from their bar stools as you walk by. This happens all over, especially at the Classico, Club 59, etc. Sure, there is a lot of trash around walking the streets. So what! You just avoid them and hunt elsewhere.

Prices. Yeah, sure, most of the tourist joints charge OUTRAGEOUS prices. It's as expensive for a meal at some of the places recommended on this board than it is in LA or NYC. Paying $10-15 for an ordinary coffee shop meal is way off for me. LA ROCA should be called LA RIP-OFF and the place across the street, MORA MORIA (or something like that!) is just as bad. They charge a 26% bullshit tax on a meal that costs around $20 for something not very special. You can spend $30-$40/person there if you have a drink. In the Domincian REpublic? Even the board famous little joint called ROCKY'S, where everyone talks about the great breakfasts, is a gringo trap. I went there with a chica who speaks only Spanish and asked for the menu in Spanish. Out comes a menu with prices that are ONE-HALF the prices in English!!! READ CAREFULLY: THE ENGLISH MENU CHARGED TWICE THE SPANISH MENU. When in Sosua one must accept the fact that there are two economies---a Gringo price and a Dominican price. Sometimes it's just a few pesos more for Gringos, but in Rocky's ("We are the Gringo's Friend"), it's double! As far as food goes, for those mongers who are willing and/able to deal with a Spanish menu and a place with no other tourists sitting in the room....you can eat all meals for around $5.00 or less.

Now for the chicas. I know it's been said here before from the experienced guys, but mongers throwing around those 1000 peso notes are way off base. The girls that are going after them (i.e. the mongers and their big bills) are basically thieves. These are the "mafiosas", the "tigras", the "landronas". It's well known here. But somehow, many of the mongers hit town, with their head of their ass and don't think of what they're doing when they start throwing around the money.

The girl behind the small quiet bar, who is serving you drinks makes around 5000 pesos A MONTH! The same is true for the girl working at the little restaurant around the corner or at the beach. Their compensation, in other words, is about $33/week. Do we get that? $33 a week! They are not putas. They are working at a boring job every day and make 33 bucks a week to feed their kids, since most of them do not have working husbands who contribute. However, if you talk to them nicely, get to know them a little, flirt a bit and let them know your intention of a "good time" together....you will find they will OFTEN (not always!) come with you for a very nice session after work, or the next day, or whatever. They do not think of themselves as putas because they have a real job. However, they are tempted by 500 pesos for a night out, or even a few hours with you at the hotel. I have done this 3 or four times in 2 weeks with stellar results.

Also, it can pay off to look in places that don't seem like places to pick up women. Each day at the beach I saw this Haitiana "hair braiding" woman about 30-35 years old, with a classic Haitiana face and butt that the kind of curvature that could balance a tray of drinks. I couldn't keep my eyes off her. She'd always be a with a group of others just outside the beach area at the waterfront. After a day or two, I went over and stood there and just smiled at her. She and the other girls started laughing. They knew my intentions. She was not interested, but her friends kept chiding her on in Creole. She didn't speak Spanish. Through one of her friends, working as the interpreter, she asked for 2,500 pesos! for a day of entertainment. I was supposed to be taking her out on boat rides, having dinner with her, etc. It was crazy. When I told her that was out of the question, she backed off and said she wasn't interested. I offered 500 and she walked away. However, her friend assured me that for 1000 I could have her. Off she went to talk to her friend. Yes! It was arranged. She'd go home to bath and clean up and I'd meet her here in 2 hours.

I show up and there she is WITH ANOTHER GIRL, another Haitiana much younger and thin and gorgeous. She looked very Somalian actually. The other girls is presented as the "hermana" and I am to go with her, not the orginal, she keeps repeating "No puedo" for some reason. I insist at first on the orginal and make a fuss, but after about 10 minutes of nonsense, I go with the new girl for 1000. She's not a puta, but works in Puerto Plata at a hotel, doing cleaning during the day. And she is sweet, willling, HOT AS HELL and got wild in the sack with me. And says, "Thank you" and gives me a big hug when I give her the money! This is not the case with a "tigra". They usually ask for more and badger you till you want to start pummelling them!

These are the kind of story I've had in my two weeks here. There are others.

However, for those who want to hit the disco and buy drinks for full time putas at puta bars----you will not get what you pay for. You will get ripped off. I did. That's how I learned....

#2128

After a week here, I was in the mood for a break and decided to investigate further out on the north coast and go to a town called LAS TERRENAS, supposedly a sweet little beach town, without much action.

I had had a good time with a girl who works behind the bar at a place called SCANDALS (I think that's the name). It's just past CLUB RESIDENCIAL, away from the direction of "town", on the opposite side of the street. I had had drinks there for two nights and each time I flirted with a sweet little 1/2 Haitiana, 1/2 Dominican bar girl. Very dark, tight body and very friendly. On the second night, we're playing wilth each other and another one of the bar girls tells me that I can pay a SALIDA of 300 pesos ($9.00) and take her home. I ask if she's interested and she says, "No problema." Well...well. We walk across the street and have a hot, exhausting session in my room. Out of the cama she's low-key, fun and happy.

The next night, I return and she's there with a big sonrisa for me. I tell her that I'm planning a trip to LAS TERRENAS for an overnight stay and ask about her day off. Maybe she'd like to join me? She says, "No problema!" We can leave tomorrow. What? Sure, she says. The "salida girl" comes over and asks for 600 pesos ($18 USD) for two days. I pay the bill and we're out of there, planning to leave the next day! She spends the night with me (no $$$ asked) then the next morning, gets her stuff, we have breakfast together and off we go.

The only way to LAS TERRENAS, a place where she'd never been, was by guagua, since CARIBE TOURS (the big air-conditioned bus) only goes there from Santa Domingo. We take a series of 4 guaguas, through the countryside, packed like sardines, stopping for locals in the campo, go over a mountain or two with breathtaking views, pass through NAGUA a desolate beach surrounded by a dusty non-descript town and she's sitting there next to me, patient, quiet and occasionally smiling. I'm enjoying the typical Dominican scene in the guagua with people getting on and off, chatting with each other, seeing friends, etc. It's hot as hell and crowded, but I enoyed it, but that's just me. After 4 hours of this we arrive at our destination and it's everything I thought it would. Tranquil, BEAUTIFUL BEACH, world class IMHO. At night the beach area (tourist area) is quiet and the stars light up the sky. Since this is not a LAS TERRENAS report, I'll stop...

Point of the story is that this beautiful little chica (21 years old) spent two days and two nights with me on a trip I could have taken alone. She was not a full time, big time puta----just a girl who saw an opportunity for a pay day. She never asked for any money, but I let her know there would be some at the end, never mentioning an amount. When we got back to Sosua, after a fine time in L.T. walking around, sitting on the beach, exploring the town and doing the deed 2x/day, I went to the bank, got 3000 pesos and gave it to her. She gave me a quick little hug and was off to take care of some business. Finito. Over and out! 3000 for her, 600 for the bar, a bunch of meals and some drinks and it's a done deal for 2 days of fun. A bargain and again....much better than cruising the discos for hard core putas! IMHO.

So, while Sosua may be declining on the surface and being overun by Haitians (so what's wrong with that?), there's still a quality holiday there for the taking---if you speak a workable Spanish, make the effort and have some patience.

Enjoy.

#2128

"the place across the street, MORA MORIA (or something like that!) is just as bad."

Surprised to hear someone who is dissappointed w/ Morra Mai. They had the best food and prices in Sosua when I was there in 2002 and 2 months ago when I was there. We ate there for breakfast, lunch and dinner and found the food and service great. And the prices were the best part - i'd have been willing to pay more!

Hotel Plaza Europa sounds tired.

Are any of these two monger friendly? Hotel Cas Cayena or Piegiorgio? Any other recommendations in town?

I'm headed here next week. Will let you know what its like. I DO know that its chica friendly (I called and asked).

[url]http://www.club-residencial.com/en/index.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Bahia Boy]I'm headed here next week. Will let you know what its like. I DO know that its chica friendly (I called and asked).

[url]http://www.club-residencial.com/en/index.html[/url][/QUOTE]

Did you call and ask if they are having any better luck keeping the lights on?

That complex and their street are notorious for electricity problems.

good luck..........

To Member #2128,

I have to admit I am thoroughly enjoying your reports on your trip to Sosua, BC, Las Terrenas and all around the DR! You write well, and your style suggests that you took in the country at your own pace and enjoyed your time there and your experiences. Very nice work! :)

I just wanted to make a few comments. I did not enjoy my recent trip to Sosua. (Hey, I'm being honest) As compared to 2003, I found the quality of the women to be way down, the petty street nonsense (crime, solicitation) to be way up and I thought that Sosua had lost that "electric" atmosphere that gave it it's unique and enviable reputation.

I know that in the past year the north coast (incl. Sosua) has been inundated by Haitian immigrants who have escaped near anarchy in their native country, and they have added substantively to the increase in crime and poverty. I also said that I don't find the Haitian working girls attractive at all. (Of course this is just my personal subjective opinion)

Since I've returned I've received quite a few pm's. As usual most of the pm's are asking my advice on Santo Domingo and Curacao. Others were from guys who agreed with me about how Sosua had declined in the past three years and thanked me for my candor.

There was however one PM that left me shaking my head. One guy suggested that the reason I'm not attracted to haitian women is because "you must not like black girls!" "Ford, if you're one of those guys who only likes really white women, its no wonder you didn't like Sosua"

Let me just set the record straight and get this off my chest. I didn't take 12 trips to the Dominican Republic and 2 trips to Jamaica because I don't like black women!! I have slept with very light skinned women to very dark skinned women and every skin tone in between and I just like beautiful women!! It makes NO difference to me what color a women's skin is - if a girl is beautiful she is beautiful! :)

I don't find Haitian women attractive in general because of their facial features. Member #2128 made mention of a Haitian girl that he met at the beach that he described as "thin and gorgeous" . He went on to say that she sort of "looked Somalian"

Now I would love to see a picture of that girl, and I'm sure she is quite attractive but subjectively (to my taste) I don't think that is a girl that I would be attracted to. It however, has nothing to do with the color of her skin. I have created a picture in my mind of a women who is "very attractive and has an appearance that is consistent with someone who might come from eastern Africa (Somalia, Kenya) and I don't think I would find that attractive.

I have however, met and spent time with very dark skinned Dominican and Colombian women over the past several years and I think they are perhaps the most beautiful and sexiest women on the planet!

People are attracted to the people they are attracted to!

(thanks for letting me rant)
cheers,
FORD

[QUOTE=Sattamon]"the place across the street, MORA MORIA (or something like that!) is just as bad."

Surprised to hear someone who is dissappointed w/ Morra Mai. They had the best food and prices in Sosua when I was there in 2002 and 2 months ago when I was there. We ate there for breakfast, lunch and dinner and found the food and service great. And the prices were the best part - i'd have been willing to pay more![/QUOTE]

I like the food there too... though Rocky's is hard to beat for breakfast...

Member 2128:

Restaurants in the DR all charge. . . .or should charge 28% tax on top of the bill.
18% is ITBIS and 10% is sort of an included gratuity that goes to the wait staff etc.

Rockys absolutely does not have 2 different prices depending on an english or spanish menu. Their ribs are famous and very reasonably priced.

As far as the restaurant and shop girls in sosua not being putas. . . . . .sort of a grey area there. Many girls realize the best way to meet clients is to work at a bar. They get a small salary, some tips and if the customer pays a salida, they make extra money. The amount of waitresses in Sosua that are not "available" is very few.

In bigger cities and less touristy spots there are plenty of waitresses that are non pro. If the bar charges a salida. . . .she is pretty much a hooker.

Unfortunately, this will be my final "on-site" report...my 19 day adventure in the DR has come to an end and I know, sadly, it will be much too long before I'm able to make another trip.

Ford, thanks for your comments and compliments. I've been enjoying your reports and your good will on this board for some time. The positive attitude you convey has been an inspiration when it came time for me to make a contribution here.

Basically, I guess that everyone has the the kind of trip and experience in Sosua (and the rest of the DR) that's right for them. Some think that Rocky's breakfasts are something special, some think that paying a 28% tax on a U.S. priced dinner in no problem, when there are are other, less tourist oriented restaurants that don't charge the tax. Who am I to judge what's best for EVERYONE? Maybe the point is that there are many choices available and each visitor gets to choose what they like best.

The same is true for the girls. There are opportunities for a variety of experiences, with a variety of girls, whether they be Haitian or Dominican, light or dark. It's whatever turns you on. Given the choice, I tend to gravitate toward the darker chicas. But that's just me. And I was not disappointed in Sosua. On any given day or night, anything was possible.

The gamble for me was whether or not I would have a positive, enthusiastic, energetic encounter, or one that was all "sales pitch" with not much delivered, or even worse, problematic and troublesome. This does happen! For instance, a number of times, after the fact, a girl would ask for more money that had been agreed upon (I never paid more than 1000) and would keep insisting, and badgering you for an extra cinentos. In the beginning I got engaged in the process of argument and got angry, then I learned to ignore it and say "no mas" and take it in stride, without getting too emotional. More or less, ignoring the request seemed to work much better than trying to justify the fact that you had agreed upon a price beforehand.

Finally, I do want to recommend CLUB RESIDENCIAL, which a few here have asked about. The staff (and SECURITY GUYS) are your friends, the rooms (actually small apartments!) are kept up and everything works fine. The location is convenient and quiet. I'd go back without any hesitation.

If anyone has any particular questions about anything re: Sosua or Boca Chica, I'll do my best to provide the information I have from my own experience.

#2128

Just return from sosua on Saturday and had a fantastic time as usual. I stayed in an all-inclusive and my mongering adventures wereon the main stretch of pedro clisante, the small bars, discos and restaurants.

Durind the day I would walk on the main street and would find many chicas hangin around the many local bars and restaurants, just make eye contact and the response would be fantastic.

During the evening the discos are jumping especially the classico, After 11 many more girls would show up and the disco upstairs would be packed. Again, just make eye contact and let the action begin.

You can take the girl out of the disco without paying a bar fine and head for the sort time hotel calypso- 300pesos.

Have fun guys and don, t spoil the girls too much.

[QUOTE=Ford]To Member #2128,



There was however one PM that left me shaking my head. One guy suggested that the reason I'm not attracted to haitian women is because "you must not like black girls!" "Ford, if you're one of those guys who only likes really white women, its no wonder you didn't like Sosua"

Let me just set the record straight and get this off my chest. I didn't take 12 trips to the Dominican Republic and 2 trips to Jamaica because I don't like black women!! I have slept with very light skinned women to very dark skinned women and every skin tone in between and I just like beautiful women!! It makes NO difference to me what color a women's skin is - if a girl is beautiful she is beautiful! :)

FORD[/QUOTE]

I have personally seen a pic of Ford between two very dark skinned women. He looked like a very happy Oreo cookie. So I would have to believe him.

New rules in DR. Everything closes at midnight exept friday and saturday when they will be allowed to keep open until 2 oclock. The police enforces the law, it was a big police action in Sosua last night.

[QUOTE=Vagabond]New rules in DR. Everything closes at midnight exept friday and saturday when they will be allowed to keep open until 2 oclock. The police enforces the law, it was a big police action in Sosua last night.[/QUOTE]

This is huge.... will hurt business... but you close earlier and get to keep them longer

Well it one thing to close down early on the other hand how safe is it if they have to send out 10,000 of police and military to enforce it? Any crime fellow mongers?