FKK Arabella / Villa Venus / Sauna Grimberg - NRW AO Clubs

[QUOTE=Maxime;1434027]In many of the non-AO clubs it is even offered without any extra costs. Even if you don't look / ask for it, you will notice this every now and then (for me, few times a year). Regardless of the sur-price (from 0 to 300 euro) , it seems to be offered more and more. I visit (ed) many (tens) of clubs, many many times, but only in Oase it was never offered to me (otherwise we could call it AOse.)[/QUOTE]That true. I notice that AO offering in non-AO clubs happening more often each next trip. At my experience surcharge applies in 100% cases. But I can believe that some girls will do it for free by two reasons: better chance that the customer returns and less frictions. Without condom most of men cum quicker.

I think that many of those who don't get AO, or don't believe that AO is possible in non-AO FKKs, are those who simply. Don't ASK for AO.

I have never been interested in AO sex before. Never. So never asked, and was never offered. And so, never got it. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Now I'm looking for it, last time I was in a FKK I didn't ask for it, but next time I'll go, I am sure that if I don't ask for it, I won't be offered it, and if I ask for it, I will have quite chances to get it.

And I think that most of those who got AO, got it most of the time because they ASKED for it (the client to the girl) rather than because they were OFFERED it (by the girl to the client).

This is my point of view, can AO mongers confirm?

[QUOTE=Breadman;1428886]No beating around the Bush (pun intended) here, couldn't have said it better myself.[/QUOTE]No beating around the Bush, this Methuzela-guy you had quoted here seems to have actually been kicked off the forum, as I had suggested! At least the links to his "Original Posts" from the quotes don't lead anywhere anymore, so I guess all his inflammatory posts have been deleted and his membership along with them.

[QUOTE]Can't imagine any doctor giving you the ok to fuck prostitutes without a condom.[/QUOTE]Not sure if docs would give ok to fuck pros, but they are definitely not opposed to uncovered sex. First: Sexy-Susi's husband is a doctor and does the HIV-tests at her AO-Gangbangs, but does otherwise not have any problem with his wife being AO-hordefucked. Second: Dark Vader's latest encounter with a medical doctor, which he wrote about here:

[QUOTE=Dark Vader; 1433876]When the guy finished he moved away and left us to go at and it was such a thrill when my cock slowly entered into her and I must admit that there really is nothing quite as pleasurable as entering virgin (from my perspective) territory unsheathed.

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By now I was spent and had cum deeply inside her and so I gave way and allowed the other guy to fuck her whilst I stroked her tits and continued to kiss her.

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Back down in the lounge we again got chatting and the talk turned to what we did for jobs. The MILF went off to get a coffee and her partner revealed that she was actually a medical doctor![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Varenne; 1433266]Villa Venus is back to the old prices:
1x 60€
2x 90€
3x 110€
No entry fee, and prices as usual include any available service. You need to decide and pay upfront for all the sessions.[/QUOTE]
Today (Friday around noon) two options only:
1x 60€
2x 90€
Each next session 40€.

I already sessioned here with four Ex-Arabella girls: Bianca (3x), Lily, Karena (2x), Andrea. Karena and Bianka look nice, Andrea provides AVO, Lily newer repeat. Bianca - excellent service with CIM - good for last session. I don't see any reason to visit Arabella after they lost their best girls. All four Ex-Arabella girls said that they like V-Venus more, especially how management treats them. It hard to get more details due to their limited language skills.

Non-attractive V-Venus girls (like Ella and others) look very upset. They sit bored getting no customers. Lineup is better than ever. So 'advisory' about old, ugly, chubby girls in V-Venus is nothing more than somebodies fantasy. Service is good as well. The only drawback is time between session. I have my tablet with movies and book reader. Today I watched 'The Bourne Legacy' and last two episodes of Season 3 of 'Game of Thrones'. Girls are nice but they cannot maintain conversation. So sex is virtually everything you can from them. This is enough for me, but if you are looking for entertaining this is not your place.

I left around 6 PM because cannot eat anymore they sausages and sliced cake.

Natalia disappears. Nobody could explain where she is. Really nice girl. Does anybody know?

[QUOTE=Silikon; 1434039]I think that many of those who don't get AO, or don't believe that AO is possible in non-AO FKKs, are those who simply. Don't ASK for AO.

I have never been interested in AO sex before. Never. So never asked, and was never offered. And so, never got it. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Now I'm looking for it, last time I was in a FKK I didn't ask for it, but next time I'll go, I am sure that if I don't ask for it, I won't be offered it, and if I ask for it, I will have quite chances to get it.

And I think that most of those who got AO, got it most of the time because they ASKED for it (the client to the girl) rather than because they were OFFERED it (by the girl to the client).

This is my point of view, can AO mongers confirm?[/QUOTE]I never ask (ed) for it, and still it is offered few times a year in the non-AO clubs (so offered by the girl to me, not by saying it, but by trying to do it! And then look surprised if I ask for a condom.)

[QUOTE=Free Dude;1432913]What percentages is concerned, I'd say 1 in 3 seems a bit much; but 1 in 100 is a joke: even without asking for it you'd probably beat that (from experience).[/QUOTE]I have never openly asked for AO ever in a normal FKK. I have played to get a sense for it with kissing and rubbing my dick against a girls pussy. If she does not complain, I see how far I can go. I have never paid extra forr it at a normal club but I have tipped afterward and it is usually with a "regular."

Seems like the old Belami has reopened under the same business model as the rest of the chain; now to be called FKK Verena: 9. 99 entry and 29. 99 for half an hour all inclusive: [url]http://www.fkk-verena.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=Free Dude; 1435825]Seems like the old Belami has reopened under the same business model as the rest of the chain; now to be called FKK Verena: 9. 99 entry and 29. 99 for half an hour all inclusive:

[url]http://www.fkk-verena.com/[/url][/QUOTE]Yes, pleeease.

Do these girls actually work in FKK Verena or are they models used for advertising on the website?

[QUOTE=Myrrh;1435866]Yes, pleeease.[/QUOTE]Beware, the first two women are clip art and have TinEye results:

1)

[url]http://www.tineye.com/search/11fc9cccf5c6c20b39ee10e515adcc3f8aa8a764/[/url]

2)

[url]http://www.tineye.com/search/2d5f3ca5caaf69958f5d46014c2550ff7f63555a/[/url]

[QUOTE=Woofiee; 1436001]Beware, the first two women are clip art and have TinEye results:

1)

[url]http://www.tineye.com/search/11fc9cccf5c6c20b39ee10e515adcc3f8aa8a764/[/url]

2)

[url]http://www.tineye.com/search/2d5f3ca5caaf69958f5d46014c2550ff7f63555a/[/url][/QUOTE]Good find, in fact they are not presented as " Our Girls" or so, but deceiving it is.

I just had my first NRW AO Clubs visit in FKK Alina. And the experience was way less than my expectations, and let me clarify that I have never visited an FKK before so when I say it was bad I am not comparing it to high class FKK clubs, I mean its bad even comparing to the cheap partytreffs that I am used to visit, my problem was mainly with the attitude, service which is the point that I was having a high expectations about because from reading the forums I thought that the girls in these clubs are are really willing to please because there is a competition in those clubs to attract customers etc, was it maybe just a bad day? Or is it that Fkk Arabella / Venus / Grimberg better than Alina? , I don't know but here is the full experience :

It took me just few minutes walking to find the club from Dorsten train station, I paid 60 Euro that includes one season and then 30 for every other season, I noticed 3 good looking girls, first was young girl from Bulgaria, second blonde girl from Romania, third tall girl from Romania.

So I sit next to the young girl from Bulgaria, she was rude, she kept talking loudly and noisy with other girls without talking to me and removed my hand from her shoulder and said "room"? . I said no and I was leaving the couch, then another customer told me calmly with a smile as if he was explaining the rules : when you sit next to a girl you should take her to a room. (Duh of course I didn't sit next to her to discuss politic) , I told him also calmly with a smile that no way I am taking a girl with such an attitude to a room. What a shitty beginning.

Anyway, next : I went to the other big room and sat next to the blonde girl from Romania, a few cold hugs and kisses and then "room"? , ok. Very mechanical season, then I decided to take a rest and I watched this scene : a guy in his late 50s wanted to kiss this blonde girl from Romania, she rejected and when he left the room she moved her hand in a way to tell the other that he smelled bad, while the girls are laughing.

After watching this scene I also left the room a bit disgusted so while I was leaving I saw a girl which I would rate as 6 not more but from her smile it was obvious that she is a sweet woman (I needed that after seeing the other girls attitude) , I sit next to her and yeah she is very sweet, she said she is from Turkey and 31 year old, nice season but as I said her look is not more than 6.

Neeext : the tall girl from Romania, alright I guess. She tried to acting horny which lead to her moving way too much, actually she reminded me of of some cute pets that never stood still when you try to pet them LOL. But it was alright season I mean at least she was willing to please.

Now normally I would take a long rest and then have my fourth season, but I had to go to the airport soon so I went for my fourth season without long rest, my penis didn't do well and I would say its a bad season because the girl didn't do her best to help in this situation. And BTW her name is Sara and she says and insists that she is from Germany!

Then I left the club, total damage 150 Euro. For 150 Euro I could had much more fun in other places. Its understandable that for AO sex it might be good place, but for me since I prefer it with condom so as I said there are more places to have more fun with this 150 Euro.

Happy mongering everybody!

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1394576]Go to Grimberg or Arabella, they are just 15min apart. If you don't like the line-up or the hardware. Just move on. It's 60€ entree including one 30min session. Grimberg is thhe bigger club.

HB[/QUOTE]In which place-city must you stay, in order to visit these 2 clubs? I mean the closest major city.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Dim Yann; 1440467]In which place-city must you stay, in order to visit these 2 clubs? I mean the closest major city.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Arabella is located in Bochum & Grimberg in Gelsenkirchen. Major cities, Duisburg & Dortmund.

[QUOTE=Dim Yann; 1440467]In which place-city must you stay, in order to visit these 2 clubs? I mean the closest major city.

[/QUOTE]There are hotels in Gelsenkirchen and Bochum. The Arena hotel is about 38euro for a basic single (shared bathroom) including a decent breakfast and is excellent value (next to a McDonalds if you like that sort of thing).

If you are travelling by car from Dortmund/Duisburg/Dusseldorf then it's a good idea to check what's on at the Stadium (usually a Schalke home match)and then time your travel to avoid the huge jams on the autobahn exits)