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Soho: are you sure the "Models" sign are still there? It was there some ten years ago, before every telephone booth in London was full of cards. In those days you can find some beautiful young girls there with good service. Since then I must had been strolling pass but I didn't notice any signs anymore. If there are still signs, the property owners or other occupiers must be very desperate to charge for that or tolerate that. You can have better flats anywhere.

Secret Life: you agency experience is a failure. That means don't look at What's on. GBP 300 you can opt for porn star type experience - everything, or very attractive girls at their prime kissing you like boy friend and cum with you. 150 for pretty young white girl - same thing here, kissing you like boy friend and cum with you. That's what they do, since they listen to their GP's and only do safe sex, hard to get oral without. The price is for British white girls. For eastern europeans better girls for the same price. Black girls and asian girls are cheaper. Outside of London, still 120 for attractive white girls with day jobs. Yes, some girls don't kiss, or they don't kiss everybody, but you can ask the agent first, or you can ask the girl personally when you talk to her on the phone.

A failure, huh? As I said, 18-2something Girls had good quality chuff, but street girls were more "accommodating". There ARE sometimes some very good looking girls down Kings Cross, and quite frankly their drug habits are a plus. Live a little! If you know agencies whose girls do kissing etc., please do tell. And a hint of where to look would be appreciated, too.

The little cards were everywhere last time I looked, but they tend to be cleaned up on Sunday mornings. Often have a woken of a Sunday with a dongle so big you'd want to salute it, and although the runners replace the cards at an admirable rate, choice is rather limited.

Incidentally, there are a couple of good massage parlous in SE London: Madonna's on Lewisham Way and some place in Blackfen, a few doors down from the Barclays Bank that was raided a few years back - I remember because one of the villians had an Uzi or suchlike.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ownaford1994
[i] are you sure the "Models" sign are still there? [/i][/QUOTE]The signs are discrete, sometimes just a 3x5 card, sometimes a full sheet of paper taped to the wall inside an open doorway. You have to kind of look around the corner.

There are plenty of walkups in the Peter Street area (near the Raymond theater), but the ambiance is skanky, to say the least. Some of the girls are, too.

They're much nicer on Lisle Street, a few blocks away, very close to Leicester Square.

Lisle is right behind the Hippodrome and the Prince of Wales theater. On the side of Lisle Street toward Chinatown there are three or four open doors leading to stairways. Typically there are two or three apartments upstairs.

When you get upstairs the girl will have a card with prices all nicely written out.

I didn't see a lot of the phone box cards in the area except for transvestites.

Ownaford,

Those little cardboard signs are still there. Last time through Soho, (May) there was no change. Same little signs, same old street hustler scumbags working the foolish and ignorant on the street. Get on Meard St and walk north or on Peter St and walk north from Berwick.

Perhaps you went through at 7:00 AM? Very rare to find signs out before noon to 2:00 PM.

Yes City Dude, Old Montague by Aldgate underground station is OK, from there toward the Ten Bells Pub, but lots of nosey homeless transient panhandlers. Problem is the girls are about the same skanky quality you find around King's Cross. Occasionally, a jewel will pop up, usually one who is trying to get her rent paid. I call em "once a monthers."

I thought it was a bit dense for Ownaford to ask if there were still "Model" notices in Soho. It's a bit like asking if there are still ravens at the Tower of London.

Aldgate is intriguing. Will try to slake my lust there sometime.

I've had a look at older postings and there are quite a few agencies to try. One question for the assembled multitudes: where can you go with your girl if she's from the lower end of the market? The Travel Inn in Kings Cross is great, because you can get in from the car park and avoid reception. They say they have floor patrols but I've never bumped into them. There are some self-catering flats in Victoria which were GBP80/night the last time I looked, which I hope to try. Any other suggestions?

Secret life, your analogy is excellent, both are for tourists. But why would one go to a tourist 'attraction' twice? In addition, you only get the lower end of the market, with a not so good tourist price. In the old days, before the age of the telephone cards, the sign are rather big, fixed and obvious. I remembered that a very nice girl that I saw two days in a row, had a bunch of fresh flowers hanging by the street entrance everyday.

If you get a room for 80, I don't understand what you mean by lower end of the market. I guess 60 still gives you a good fuck in any flat in London, even with quite attractive girls if you can locate them.

Many B&B in areas like King Cross, Victoria, and Earl's Court are very cheap, owned or manned by Asians (Indian, Pakistani). If you pay for two people, I don't see why they will give you problems. Especially near those streets where most of the flats have one or more working girls. Some give you keys to the main door, because they lock the door and don't have people around later in the evening. Just don't stay for breakfast together, when there are a lot of tourist around and the owner's daughter may be serving the food.

If you pay 300 GBP, I don't see why they wouldn't kiss. Just ask the agency and the girl first. They always ask the girl to call you back first and talk before you deciding, irrespective of the price.

If the south east price is still 120, the london price is about 150, or twice the full service you pay for the incall girls in flats. For this agency price, most girls do, but perhaps not for everyone they see. One of the exception that don't kiss is an Irish girl from California, hiding in some small town in summer to get through college without running into people who may know her or recognize her in the future. Just ask the agency. But I doubt if they know that for sure. So just ask the girls. If the agency don't automatically ask the girl to call you, don' t try that agency. Even the measurements from the agents mouth and from the girls mouth are slightly different. But even if the girl promise you they will kiss, it doesn't mean much. A kiss without passion or chemistry is not a kiss anymore. Once I asked the girl. She hesitated but said yes. When we met, she said no tongue. I only started with only light lips. We end up with tongue in mouth all the time, she started it.

But the way, I never took the underground in USA. The tube in London is OK but not the ones in East london near Dockland. Not that they are dangerous or something, just a totally different kind of world compared to the other lines in London. Tourist in the Dockland hotels often take a taxi to the London Tower tube station instead of to the nearest East London station.

Bad news for card fans: British Telecom already blocks the numbers they provide which are found on girly cards and moves are afoot to get other service providers to do the same. http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/5948858?source=Evening%20Standard refers. Oddly, a survey not long ago found that no-one was particularly bothered by the cards, counter-intuitive as it may seem.

You have no idea how much "research" I've done over girl-compatible B&Bs in KX and Paddington. It's excruciatingly hard to find a place where reception isn't permanently staffed, and often in KX the manager will pop out to see who's coming in when he hears the door. And I had to leave one particular B&B in KX where I'd paid for a double room and the manager saw I was in the company of a "lady of negotiable affections". Haven't tried that since. Perhaps Victoria is the way forward.

I suppose I was hoping for the name of a big hotel like KX Travel Inn where you can get in all the time with no bother. At some places, e.g. KX Holiday Inn, reception is usually deserted in the evenings, but I'd rather not face a risk.

Kissing? Haven't researched it, but I'd expect a blanket 'no' if I asked an agency in advance. Usually osculation (i.e. kissing. Was Merriam-Webster's Word of the Day recently) only occurs after I've weaved my magic, but recent comments indicate that asking is definitely worth trying.

And why do I like upmarket lodgings and downmarket vadge? Basically, drugs. Also, I've perused the agency websites mentioned here and although many of the girls are very nice, you can do just as well on a good day at my favourite mainline railway station.

I usually restrict comments to the services of working ladies, avoiding travel advice, but must break the rule to correct a false impression given by Ownaford. The trains and tubes east and southeast, including docklands, are perfectly safe at all times for anyone behaving normally. It would be madness to take a taxi from docklands to the West End, paying £30 or so, when you can get in for £4 by train/tube, thus saving yourself the price of a bargain fuck in Peter Street. You can also admire girls of all shapes and races in the carriages, rather than having to endure the conversation of a London cabbie who is usually either an incomprehensible non-English speaker or (much worse) a self-styled chirpy cockney.

The above advice is offered especially for the benefit of our friends from the USA, who often tend to be exaggeratedly timid in encountering a new city. This is not because they are cowardly, but because they are used to their cities at home, in which the worst districts are total 24/7 no-go areas. No such area exists in London: some of the nastiest have been described on this board, and they are nothing like the worst of LA... or Little Rock. You can see what I mean by browsing the South American boards, where you will read the testimony of many a gringo who has started by thinking that he runs the risk of being skinned alive if he steps outside the Sheraton, only to discover with a sense of joy and liberation that Buenos Aires or Cali are much less worrying environments than most cities in the North. And as for the comparison between the quality of bought sex North vs South, this whole site is a massive testimony to the superiority of the latina.

Enough: I digress, and I pontificate. Back to business with some Soho tips: Lori and companions still doing great things at Les Girls starting at £60. Further up Berwick Street, raunch and fetish from £25 offered by Amber and others at number 70a. Neither place gets going till after mid day, but for the early bird, and/or bargain hunter, there is usually an attractive young Eastern European girl doing hectic business at 28 Peter Street from about 0930 until late, starting at £20. My next trip to London comes up next week, I shall by staying in docklands and travelling... by tube.

I presented the fact, not a false impression. I didn't say the place is not safe, just that that section of the tube is a different kind of world compared to the rest of the tube system in greater London. The commuters looked very different than the average tube passengers. The carriage are not that cute. And there are graffiti inside outside and along the track, while the rest of the tube system is quite clean. Oh yes, there are rats everywhere and the whole tube seemed very old. But there are no graffiti, rarely rubbish, and no smell as in Paris. They may have cleaned it up recently but with panhandlers around, you can guess what type of area it is. I'm not saying panhandlers are bad. Just that you rarely see them elsewhere near London. Once a young guy approach me near the food stall in a station in the posh areas and asked for a sandwich, politely and discreetly. He said he's hungry.

The tourist is me. Dockland has some nice new hotels. But they are unlike many London hotels, not in walking distance of the tube. You have to take a taxi to anywhere. You call the hotel to call a taxi for you, they call you when the taxi arrive. All the hassle I don't want to disappoint the driver to go to the nearest tube station, which is quite close. In US it's a custom to tip everybody for good service right? One way to do it is to go to Tower of London, not that far away. You can see the smile on the drivers' face. And for a few pounds more you can skip the east London Dockland scene. Especially recommended for honeymoon, anniversary and romantic trips. I'm not that rich to taxi to central London.

Continued on previous thread: Source of agencies. Central London, internet is pretty good. Outside London - the best are local newspapers that only delivered to local houses, not on sale. Perhaps you can get hold of one in your B&B. Some local part-time girls. Some specialize on nurses, teachers, students. Then there may be a few copies of local newspapers with adult ad in the gas station or small newsagents. Then there are regional newspapers such as Surrey Advertiser.

Ownaford, I know what you mean about that section of the tube. I had to contend with a group gypsy kids with mamas who were getting on and off at various open station stops.

They would get off and run over the foot bridges and go to the other way. Never paid a stinkin penny to ride all day.

Saw some seroiusly looking dysfunctional hobby ladies on those runs. Kinda reminded me of what used to hang out around White Chapel in the old days.

Gentlemen,

I do not wish to sound rude but I have had at least a dozen emails in the last week from men who walked into an unlicenced strip bar in SOHO and ended up being conned. Anymore emails that I get asking for help on this matter I shall refuse to respond too.

For fu*ck sake Merlin, Myself and other members have warned that places like Girls Girls Girls are no go bars..

Why dont you guys take heed of our advice. Stop being thick and DO US ALL A FAVOUR KEEP AWAY FROM THESE PLACES.

If you walk in and loose all your money then thats your problem.

This is my last say on this subject.

There is a "SAUNA" next door to Kentish town tube called "Omega".

Its a little grubby inside but the rooms are clean.

The girls range from a 4-8 in looks.
But the majority are a 6-7.
Occasionally you will get a 9-10

£15 entrance and then £50 for BJ and Sex.

They have a sauna room.

Nothing great but some of the girls are gfe.

This makes a good place for a quickie as you will (most of the time) find a nice girl.

I have been 4 times now and always walked out with a grin.
Nationalitys vary from English - German - Hungary - Spanish (What a stunner I was with last year 10 EASY).

Went to "Omega" last night.
Was a quick visit as I had to go out.

There was 5 girls working:

1 British
1 1/2 Albanian 1/2 Greek
1 Chinese
1 Hungarian
Another I can't remember (can't have been that nice)

Anyhow I went with the 1/2 Albanian one.

I initially thought she was the receptionist! After finding out she was working, I was very please. Her name was "Kelly" and she is going back home next week..
She has a superb rear end and legs, the face was decent and breasts about a B cup.

Normally after paying £15 for entrance and massage then £50 for the extras they normally forget the massage.

But she was great gave me a 20-30 min massage first all over.

I took her in missionary and started.

I had not had any sex for over 1 month so I knew I was not going to last long.

I started to slow down and she was like dont slow down fuck me hard!
(never had a working girl say keep up!)

I informed her I am slowing down because im about to pop!

She was like ok slow down and take your time.

Great GFE experience but shame she is leaving soon.

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[quote]originally posted by speedy
[i]there is a "sauna" next door to kentish town tube called "omega".[/quote]hi there, where is omega?

next to kt station i saw a bar ("closed for two weeks") and then a shirt-printing company. the girls were alright but it didn't seem to me they were working on.

cheers

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