Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=Twice Divorced]There are those of you who have traveled to Sosua on numerous occasions, have never been a victim of crime, and will argue that it is safe simply because you have not been a victim. At least not yet. However, just because YOU have not been a victim of crime doesn't mean others have not.

Sosua is an unsafe area and I would encourage anyone who travels there to be extremely safe when you do. You can go and have a great time and not encounter any problems. Many people have. But, to give people a false sense of security by claiming that Sosua is safe is certainly not helping them.

Is Sosua safe? Ask the people who have been victims of crime there.[/QUOTE]

By and large, I think that Sosúa is as safe as many places in the States. I have met foreign victims of crimes there but in most cases, they fell victim because they were too drunk or too careless or both. I still think that if you stay at a good hotel like New Garden, do not walk the streets late at night, especially in a drunken stupor, you have a good chance of not falling victim. It also helps to ask locals where to go, when not to, etc. It also helps to have street smarts such as not flashing money around, not carrying expensive camera equipment around, especially at night.
Also, take care in choosing feminine companionship. Avoid pushy, nutty "tigresas" and you stand a very good chance of having a crime-free vacation.

Best of luck

How does this effect us ? It was in the Nov 10, 08 news paper.

[quote]Santiago- Las autoridades dominicanas arrestaron en los últimos tres días a 110 mujeres, entre ellas 65 de nacionalidad haitiana, 40 dominicanas, una peruana, dos cubanas y dos colombianas que ejercían la prostitución en centros turísticos de la costa norte del país.

La mayoría de las mujeres fueron arrestadas en los municipios de Cabarete y Sosúa en la provincia de Puerto Plata, al norte del país, según informó a la prensa el responsable de la Policía Turística en esa demarcación, Santiago Alejo.

El oficial dijo que muchas de las detenidas extorsionaban y estafaban a turistas extranjeros a quienes se acercaban para ofrecer favores sexuales.

Una de las dominicanas apresadas, que afirmó residir en Santiago (norte), aseguró que las autoridades han arreciado la persecución de las prostitutas, tras la publicación de una información en torno a la difusión de un vídeo pornográfico en el que aparecen dominicanas y haitianas practicando sexo en la ciudad de Puerto Plata.

"Son redadas constantes, arrestos, atropellos y todo tipo de abusos", se quejó la mujer, quien aseguró rechazar su participación en el citado filme, "porque sólo me ofrecieron 100 dólares, y no podía estar ante los ojos del mundo por tan poco dinero".[/quote]

CL, I think that, to a large degree, you and others make my point. Many posts follow the old line that if you do this, that, that, and this, you'll be fine. And I agree. But my point is that if Sosua were such a safe place, there would be no need to do this, that, that, and this in order to avoid becoming a victim of crime. All of the suggestions that are made to prevent becoming a victim are made because, in fact, Sosua is unsafe. Just one perspective anyway.

Also, I can't grasp the constant comparisons of Sosua to "places in the US". I admit I'm taking a wild guess here, but I'd be willing to bet that if you were to make an apples to apples comparison of Sosua to similar places in the US, in terms of size and numbers of people, Sosua would probably have a larger rate of more serious crimes than those towns in the US. Again, just a guess.

BTW, my opinion won't stop me from traveling there.

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist] Also, take care in choosing feminine companionship. Avoid pushy, nutty "tigresas" and you stand a very good chance of having a crime-free vacation.

Best of luck[/QUOTE]Excellent advice.

[QUOTE=Fuddzie]How does this effect us ? It was in the Nov 10, 08 news paper.[/QUOTE]These purges happen from time to time. Just like there are purges on wearing seat belts in cars and wearing crash helmets on motorcycles. "Nice little earners" for the police but it doesn't change anything.

[QUOTE=Caribic_Monger]I live since 15 years in Sosua - and everything is sound and save.

Stop writing all this BS - compare to New York Sosua is a save place[/QUOTE]
...it seems to me that you have a vested interest in Sosua and because of it, it's in your best interest to sell it as a [b]safe[/b] place, but it can't be denied that there's crime there, and it's getting worst!

As for New York, I don't like the city myself, four days there was more than enough for me (not because of the crime, but its unfriendliness), but I remember that my 20 years old lady friend used to come home at three o'clock in the morning and she never had any problem, and that was when NYC was a lot worst than today.

My problem with crime in Sosua is that the worst comes from those who are supposed to protect us ([b]the police[/b]), the usual criminals I know how to handle.

As far as I know, in NYC (or any other city in USA) the police is not setting up [b]innocent[/b] people in order to scam a few dollars. Over here, I trust the police.

I thought this side is a international sex guide and not a page about crime stories. Off course we should not forget Sosua is a town in a third world country and in this country's the people are poor and try to get money legally or illegally.

The police and all the rest are paid really bad and thats the problem, so to survive they try there way to get some money. I didn't accept that, but I can not change it too.

I work almost 20 years in the police in Switzerland and the bad crime rate rises all over the world. Where ever you go you have to be careful what you do how you do and with who. Do this, that and so fare and you will be safe will work in every country you are going.

Look if, for example, you leave your mobil gps or you cellphone visible in your car in the town I work, I will not give you a guarantee it will be still there when you coming back. Or if you like to flirt with a women who belongs to people from east part of Europe or say a bad word to them, I will not give you a guarantee you will be safe and not weak up in the hospital.

I was working several time in African country's and I got the experience of feeling cold metal (pistol and knife) on my head or throw. In Johannesburg for example if you walk in the center of the town, the police will advice you as a with gringo to leave that part, as it is to dangers. I have seen videos from the surveillances cameras what happen there and I was shocked.

Okay to get to the point we can discuses here what is safe and what is dangerous, its like the bottle of beer is half full or half empty.

Its getting more insecure that for sure and you have to be careful of course, but until now, its still fun to be around there and not as safe then in our country but not as bad as in others too, that I know for sure.

I will be back in Sosua in January.

Saludos

Don Ben

(Sorry about my bad English, as it is not my mother tongue language)

[QUOTE=Fuddzie]How does this effect us?

It was in the Nov 10, 08 news paper.[/QUOTE]Don't worry this happen often and will not affect us so far, as they coming back really fast.

[QUOTE=Fuddzie]How does this effect us ? It was in the Nov 10, 08 news paper.[/QUOTE]

Quick translation:

Santiago.

The Dominican authorities in the last three days arrested 110 women, among them 65 of Haitian nationality, 40 Dominicas, one Peruviana, two Cubanas and two Colombianas who practiced prostitution in tourist centers of the North coast of the country. The majority of the women was arrested in the municipalities of Cabarete and Sosúa in the province of Puerto Plata, in the north of the country, according to the press officer of the Tourist Police in that district.

The official said that many of the prisoners extorted and swindled foreign tourists whom they approached to offer sexual favors. One of the Dominicanas arrested, who said she lived in Santiago (North), assured that the authorities have gotten worse the persecution of prostitutes, after the publication of news about the broadcasting of a pornographic video in which Dominicana and Haitianas are seen practicing sex in the city of Puerto Plata.

"There are constant sweeps, arrests, shakedowns, and all type of abuses" , the woman complained, who said she refused to perform int he movie , " because to only they offered 100 me dollars, and I would not get naked for the whole world for so little money".

[QUOTE=Frannie]Quick translation:

One of the Dominicanas arrested, who said she lived in Santiago (North), assured that the authorities have gotten worse the persecution of prostitutes, after the publication of news about the broadcasting of a pornographic video in which Dominicana and Haitianas are seen practicing sex in the city of Puerto Plata.
[/QUOTE]I don't want to get into a big argument about it, as maybe we have exhausted both the crime issue now and previously the issue of blurring chica faces in pictures. But notice that the Dominican hooker is saying that the cops cracked down on prostitution only after the publication of a porn video. That's a cultural note to me that this country doesn't mind extranjeros having sex with Dominicanas but doesn't want that sex broadcast afterwards.

[QUOTE=Reconnoiter]I don't want to get into a big argument about it, as maybe we have exhausted both the crime issue now and previously the issue of blurring chica faces in pictures. But notice that the Dominican hooker is saying that the cops cracked down on prostitution only after the publication of a porn video. That's a cultural note to me that this country doesn't mind extranjeros having sex with Dominicanas but doesn't want that sex broadcast afterwards.[/QUOTE]

I think the country doesn't want to be known as a sex tourism destination.

Actually the chica herself had no problem appearing in the movie, but she wanted more money than was offered. At least it reads that way.

[QUOTE=Reconnoiter] But notice that the Dominican hooker is saying that the cops cracked down on prostitution only after the publication of a porn video. That's a cultural note to me that this country doesn't mind extranjeros having sex with Dominicanas but doesn't want that sex broadcast afterwards.[/QUOTE]

Interestingly, it also mentions "The official said that many of the prisoners extorted and swindled foreign tourists whom they approached to offer sexual favors." I thought it great that the officials thought the bigger problem was the putas ripping off the tourists.

[QUOTE=Alias]
I'm talking about TRUE EXPLOITATION... not just partaking of the working girls.

Gents, nothing is finer than having two blood sisters taking turns blowing you while their mother is fucking your wing man.

Or, searching the streets for those pregnant single mothers that need cash...
and gang banging her ass (literally) so she can buy some milk for her other turds...

Or, best yet, making one of the ugly putas our slave for a couple of days...
tee hee hee... I'm talking about some serious S&M Demented shit...

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[QUOTE=Alias]

*** PLEASE NO NEGATIVE COMMENTS ON MY LIKES... no one here can talk about morals... ***[/QUOTE]

Okay, but "standards" sure as hell don't have to go out the window, lol.

We're going to have to make a thread just for you buddy!

[QUOTE=Twice Divorced]Interestingly, it also mentions "The official said that many of the prisoners extorted and swindled foreign tourists whom they approached to offer sexual favors." I thought it great that the officials thought the bigger problem was the putas ripping off the tourists.[/QUOTE]That's exactly how I read it. It sounds as if they would like punting to be controlled and contained to places like BB's, Cristal's, Oxygen, etc. (sort of like the termas, and "Help" in Rio de Janeiro). This also keeps the punter from making front page after being mugged and/or stabbed trying to deal with "uncontrolled" putas.

I'm sure the DR's government understands that if Punters don't feel safe spending money in their country then we will simply find someplace else to go. Crimes against punters is bad PR for the country.

[quote=schwmmr]+

my avise; go solo over christmas or semana santa (easter). i'm sure you'll have a great time.[/quote]

[quote=mose]you remind me of the ****s i run into in the phillipines. if we meet i will sever your dick, stick it in your mouth and fedex your severed head to your mother with a note, return to sender.[/quote]

moses, i think your anger is aimed at the wrong person. if you read what schwmmr was suggesting ("christmas", "easter") then you'll realize the irony in his suggestions.

here is the real culprit...thine name is "alias":

[quote=alias]any perverts going to be in sosua (or north coast) over the christmas holidays?

it's been two years since i visited the dr but i'll be there this year.

i'm looking for some other perverts (not just mongers... but those that like orgies, swing clubs - yes the locals have them and gang bangs) that want to meet up and exploit the country.

i'm talking about true exploitation... not just partaking of the working girls.

i'm talking about making some of the locals our novias and going back to their campo casa (country home) and fucking both their mother and sisters.

gents, nothing is finer than having two blood sisters taking turns blowing you while their mother is fucking your wing man.

or, searching the streets for those pregnant single mothers that need cash...
and gang banging her ass (literally) so she can buy some milk for her other turds.

or, going to the all dominican swing clubs and fucking the ugly hags.

or, best yet, making one of the ugly putas our slave for a couple of days...
tee hee hee... i'm talking about some serious s&m demented shit...

the point is if you need something more than the local money hunger puntas have to offer hit me up... dr is ripe for exploiting.

*** please no negative comments on my likes... no one here can talk about morals... ***[/quote]