Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

what possible value as a sexual person could come from sleeping with a virgin. i have met a couple on dia and the last think i would want is thier virginity, they held it for this long. i could take a guess as to why but i won't.

a virgin would be a terrible sexual partner and i can't imagine the damage done to a young lady pysche selling her virginity. plus the crying and the hesitancy, hell i can get that at home.

perhaps i am being to morale but is not the goal of most here to have great sex with beautiful women?

to me this is akin to an **** and i prefer the willing women in their 30's who actually want a nice man to fuck the hell out of their wet little pussies and god knows the phils are full of them.

i find the younger ones are terrible and can't take a bigger cock and whine after an hour or so.

a wrinkle here a sag there means better fucking for me.

[quote=pinaypounder; 1146215]what possible value as a sexual person could come from sleeping with a virgin. i have met a couple on dia and the last think i would want is thier virginity, they held it for this long. i could take a guess as to why but i won't.

a virgin would be a terrible sexual partner and i can't imagine the damage done to a young lady pysche selling her virginity. plus the crying and the hesitancy, hell i can get that at home.

perhaps i am being to morale but is not the goal of most here to have great sex with beautiful women?

to me this is akin to an **** and i prefer the willing women in their 30's who actually want a nice man to fuck the hell out of their wet little pussies and god knows the phils are full of them.

i find the younger ones are terrible and can't take a bigger cock and whine after an hour or so.

a wrinkle here a sag there means better fucking for me. [/quote]that is because most are strawberries and not cherries. meaning that they have fucked a local, but not a foreigner. so they want to sell the strawberry as a cherry.

robb

[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist; 1142792]Yes, in my experience in living in PI the pinoys are relatively peaceful and avoid direct confrontations. Pocket knives (balisong) are commonly carried in the provinces but you are not likely to see one pointed at you unless you threaten the life of the owner. Firearms are expensive and out of reach for the average man.

If you get into an argument over a woman with her ex-husband / ex-boyfriend, happened to me twice, both times the guy swallowed his pride and walked away. They have more to fear from you then you have to fear from them. Money is strength here, it buys muscle and firepower, and you can get more than they can.

Now if you get involved in a dispute over land or assets, thats a threat to be taken seriously. Assasinations over asset ownership are very common. [/QUOTE]You mean legal firearms are hard to get? Illegal firearms can be purchased for 2000P for a homemade gun.

I am shocked you posted that twice locals swallowed their pride and walked away, most walk away and go get a bolo (machete) and come back. Causing a local to lose face will get you in a world of hurt. Most locals have NO fear of foreigners and if you take away their wife or girlfriend you could end up in a world of hurt. As far as ex-husband goes I would be amazed if it was her ex, as there is no divorce in the Philippines, only annulment and it is very expensive and takes a long time. Next month I will have lived and worked here for the last four years and I have been coming to the Philippines a long time (first visit was 1986) and I still learn something new everyday.

As I posted before, I was in a local Filipino bar in 2005 and one GRO was sitting with another local and her boyfriend came into the bar and shot her and the guy beside her and turn around and walked out.

Robb

[quote=pinaypounder; 1146215]what possible value as a sexual person could come from sleeping with a virgin. i have met a couple on dia and the last think i would want is thier virginity, they held it for this long. i could take a guess as to why but i won't.

a virgin would be a terrible sexual partner and i can't imagine the damage done to a young lady pysche selling her virginity. plus the crying and the hesitancy, hell i can get that at home.

perhaps i am being to morale but is not the goal of most here to have great sex with beautiful women?

to me this is akin to an **** and i prefer the willing women in their 30's who actually want a nice man to fuck the hell out of their wet little pussies and god knows the phils are full of them.

i find the younger ones are terrible and can't take a bigger cock and whine after an hour or so.

a wrinkle here a sag there means better fucking for me. [/quote]i met my now-wife, vangie. 7 years ago, when she was an 18-year-old virgin. we chatted online, and spoke on the phone, when she was still 17, but when i got to her town in the provinces a few months later, she had just turned 18.

there was only one decent hotel in town, and vangie insisted on staying with me, probably because she didn't want me prowling around for other girls. well, she was definitely a virgin. the first few nights, i did some daty on her, and she was thrilled. her hymen was intact, and she was so tight, i couldn't even get my finger in. she wanted me to take her virginity, but it just wouldn't go in, probably because she was nervous and scared.

on the fourth night, after i had given vangie daty for about 30 minutes, i eased myself inside her, a centimeter at a time, and i could literally feel a "pop" as her hymen gave way (and she shrieked in pain) , and i was balls-deep in her. i just stayed inside for awhile, and gradually started moving until i pulled out and came.

we took a break the next day and night, but when vangie made love to me the following day, she was really surprised when it no longer hurt. almost immediately, she couldn't get enough, like a light switch went on! i was like a new toy to her, and suddenly she wanted to fuck in the morning, in the day, and at night. i couldn't believe it.

vangie is still the same way after 7 years, and definitely has the higher sex drive of the two of us. i still visit this site for entertainment, though my mongering days are over.

yes, deflowering a virgin can be a bit of work, but there's something really special and exciting about being the first.

rg

[quote=pinaypounder; 1146215]what possible value as a sexual person could come from sleeping with a virgin. i have met a couple on dia and the last think i would want is thier virginity, they held it for this long. i could take a guess as to why but i won't.

a virgin would be a terrible sexual partner and i can't imagine the damage done to a young lady pysche selling her virginity. plus the crying and the hesitancy, hell i can get that at home.

perhaps i am being to morale but is not the goal of most here to have great sex with beautiful women?

to me this is akin to an **** and i prefer the willing women in their 30's who actually want a nice man to fuck the hell out of their wet little pussies and god knows the phils are full of them.

i find the younger ones are terrible and can't take a bigger cock and whine after an hour or so.

a wrinkle here a sag there means better fucking for me. [/quote]well said robbaf! anyone chatting with a dia girl claiming to be a virgin should realize that they're being sold a fraudulent bill of goods. dia virgins are like the car dealer's 'certified pre-owned' cars. they may have been lightly used but used nonetheless. filipinas have very flexible definitions of virginity. they may be virgin to foreign cock, or they might only be virgin to your cock specifically. a lot of these girls are remarkably tight and routinely stain a bit upon being penetrated by anything slightly more formidable than a local trouser snake. throw in some theatrics and an ouch here and there most foreigners, having never fucked a virgin, would never know the difference. why do they go through the trouble of selling you a secondhand cherry? well, to inflate your ego and get you thinking with the small head instead of the big one. now she can claim you ruined her by popping her cherry and you must marry her or at least deal with her on an open wallet policy since no local will have her now. i suppose there is no harm in the illusion as long as you don't open the wallet too wide.

I had a gf that claimed and felt very much like a virgin the first time we had sex. If she wasn't a virgin, she was a very good actress, and extremely tight. I didn't feel the pop, as RG reported. But most of what he wrote was the same for me. I thoroughly enjoyed teaching her many different positions and techniques. She learned them all very well and became a class A nympho! It was nice having her around. When I would return home from work, she would be there waiting, fresh out of the shower, in a sexy, see through nighty, ready for action. She would strip me down and immediately do a BBBJ until I CIM. I miss those days. But I won't have a live in again, because that relationship turned into something very similar to a marriage. That's something I don't want to be in again.

HW

[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist;1143215]Are you sure you were chatting with a woman and not a police officer?[/QUOTE]If she was a cop, she did a pretty convincing job of masturbating on cam for me!

I respect everyones opinion but are a bit surprised how generic statements people make on the topic of virginity here. It seems to be quite a topic, especially for the no-sayers.

I like to extrapolate things to make my own reasoning clear. Let us say that there is a generic way for a doctor to diagnose if a girl is in fact a virgin. It is up to everyone to decide if the think such a methodology exists. Humans can become doctors; hence they can learn this methodology IF it exists.

But maybe it is this and the outer space that is yet to be explored? Could perhaps render me the Nobel price even, if I manage to describe this process.

The same extrapolation goes for identifying lies by studying communication patterns, etc. These pinays are not the hardest nuts to crack IMHO.

Just because some of the sales men / women are selling a fake product, does not make the buyers brain dead. One can not make general statements based on ones limited success or experience in an area. Not all the girls even on DIA has had sex. So of course there is all types on that web page.

On the pop: read up! The info is out there.

How can anyone have opinions on this topic? What good are opinions really apart from feeding that little weak baby called ego? Moral high ground is nothing but opinions. Women like to take moral high grounds for all sorts of reasons, mainly because of their lack of harmony, self esteem and balance, but to find that here on ISG amongst hard core man working girls? Surprisingly indeed.

I will not debate this topic because in essence I think it is just opinions, but I say each to his own. Keep fucking virgins if you feel like it.

Last trip I had a funny incident relating to the definition of virginity. Me and a fellow monger met up with four cuties for some food and karaoke. As it happens this place has short term rooms for 300 PHP in the proximity. Said and done, me and a rather well busted young girl sneaks of to exchange bodily fluids and money. When penetrating her, she is extremely tight. Tighter than normal and I ask her "are you sure that you are not a virgin". Her response is "no no I am not, I promise". I fuck her some more and she is in pain, but she endures. Once again I ask, and she denies. Does not take long before her little honey cave squeeze the juices out of me and while talking afterwards I want to find out what kind of micro dick she had. She tells me "my boy friend is a girl. A lesbian. He fucks me with her finger." We dwell on this topic for a while and the fact that one normally refers to loosing the virginity as having a dick in the fanny, but she insists that her lesbian "boyfriend" is the one that took her cherry, and who am I to argue.

Had a similar incident before with a girlfriend. She was finger fucked by an evil uncle at age 9, and excused herself several times for not being a virgin or "proper virgin" (whatever that is). Apology accepted.

/B

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Suddenly, you are twenty years younger and twenty pounds lighter. Your jokes have never been funnier.

Your charm never so evident. You are Gwapo and desired by countless nubile young maidens.

Your sexual prowess quotient rises exponentially. Ah, if such a paradise could exist!

[QUOTE=Barba; 1146706]Had a similar incident before with a girlfriend. She was finger fucked by an evil uncle at age 9, and excused herself several times for not being a virgin or "proper virgin" (whatever that is). Apology accepted.

/B[/QUOTE]LOL you should have asked for half your money back or a given her a good spanking for if a freebee for not being a "proper virgin".

I posted some years ago on the Peru forum about a girl I was with who was certain she wasn't a virgin. When I performed the tongue test, there was definitely a complete hymen present. I asked her again and she assured me that she had had sex once with her ex BF. I asked her if she was sure that his prong had been inside. She said she wasn't sure. Of course he probably just go too excited and came when he was about to stick it in.

Back on the subject of virgins in the Philippines. I have the feeling that this idea of the majority of girls losing their virginities while sleeping in close quarters with brothers, cousins, fathers and uncles might just be an urban legend. Every time I`ve mentioned it to a Filipina she has been shocked at the idea that this could occur. Of course given the propensity for Filipinas not wanting to admit to anything which might in some way portray their culture negatively this might mean nothing. However I have come across many "legal aged definite without a doubt virgins". Since I am one of those who feels that the devirginization process is more work than pleasure, I have often passed.

[QUOTE=David_33; 1147168]I posted some years ago on the Peru forum about a girl I was with who was certain she wasn't a virgin. When I performed the tongue test, there was definitely a complete hymen present. I asked her again and she assured me that she had had sex once with her ex BF. I asked her if she was sure that his prong had been inside. She said she wasn't sure. Of course he probably just go too excited and came when he was about to stick it in.

Back on the subject of virgins in the Philippines. I have the feeling that this idea of the majority of girls losing their virginities while sleeping in close quarters with brothers, cousins, fathers and uncles might just be an urban legend. Every time I`ve mentioned it to a Filipina she has been shocked at the idea that this could occur. Of course given the propensity for Filipinas not wanting to admit to anything which might in some way portray their culture negatively this might mean nothing. However I have come across many "legal aged definite without a doubt virgins". Since I am one of those who feels that the devirginization process is more work than pleasure, I have often passed. [/QUOTE]I doubt you can check the hymen with the tongue. It is not long enough. But with a couple of fingers you can make sure. Ofcourse with a dick you are 100% sure.

Majority of the willing girls loose their virginity like anywhere else in the world. With their boyfriends. I had my first virgin when I was 14 years old and she was 15. It just happened because her whole family went to attend a wedding leaving her home alone for some reason.

In Phi socoety the whole family sleeps together on the floor. It is impossible to have sex. But if the uncle catches her alone and if she is willing it can happen. Ofcourse the girls will never admit these things. One my DIA conquests was a virgin. When she told her mother, her mother got really angry, she said.

In very conservative family it is impossible for many girls to have the time or the situation to have sex.

I am sure there are many real virgins among the " cherry " girls in AC.

Having a virgin is definitely fun. The fun is you get to teach her how to have fun besides the feeling that you are the first. Many a times bleeding can occur every time having sex. One Thai virgin I had bled every time although not as much as in the begining.

I always make sure that the girl does indeed want to loose her virginity and without any promises.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1147186]I doubt you can check the hymen with the tongue. It is not long enough.[/QUOTE]Mine is. She wasn't tall.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1147186]I always make sure that the girl does indeed want to loose her virginity and without any promises.[/QUOTE]Back in my mongering days, I found that many girls will give you their virginity for simply the "hope" of winning your heart. I didn't feel it necessary to tell a girl that I ONLY wanted sex, even if that was in my mind. I always felt that I could honestly tell a girl that I could make no promises, but who knows where things could lead?

Thus, many girls willingly gave me their cherry even though I made no promises, as long as I didn't completely kill the *possibility* that things could develop into marriage. Many were quite disappointed when things didn't develop as they hoped or expected, but I don't feel guilty because that was what I told Vangie, whom I ultimately fell in love with and married.

RG

[QUOTE=Mc Don;1147040]LOL you should have asked for half your money back or a given her a good spanking for if a freebee for not being a "proper virgin".[/QUOTE]I did in fact know this before she became my "friend". I assured her several times that it was totally OK. This is one of the three friends that I fucked (one preggo) during 2010 and 2011. Sometimes it pays off to be persistent and nice continuously. I work behind my monitors so I have plenty of time to chit chat. Never fill a girls head with lies. Tell them the slightly bended truth and of course treat them for some fun. This girl was happy to giver her in-proper cherry to me as long as I was nice to her and kept in touch also after the deed was done. Why not. She is a cool girl. Youth politician in the province and told me all about rigging elections and such. Now she met an American that seems to be in love, so I am left with the two teen friends. But one snatched a phone from me and the other is pregnant with Davaos most jealous man, so poor Barba better focus on other challenges in May.

/B