Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2451390]Not one person is saying you don't get 700 baht.

Several are questioning the girl quality. Meaning their look. They can have great personality but that not what people pay for.

I'm starting to think you may be even overpaying. If 700 is your price pre 19, logically they should be even lower during this crisis. As to backing up your case meeting Monke, and XXL did not help your case.[/QUOTE]A lot of the 700 range girls have bad hygiene too. Some guys go for quantity which allows the uglies to get hired. Some guys are indifferent on appearance because things are so bleak in their homelands.

I prefer pretty girls with minimal tats. Not anorexic.

So I referenced Saul Saul earlier. A guy commenting on a Thai bargirl blog. He identified himself as a Pattay Bar Manager for 5 years. He claimed the average girl of the bar has 500 customers a year. Hehehe.

Turns out he is a Bellboy in a London Hotel comes to Thailand over the last 10 years every now and then.

What say you?

[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2451390]Not one person is saying you don't get 700 baht.

Several are questioning the girl quality. Meaning their look. They can have great personality but that not what people pay for.

I'm starting to think you may be even overpaying. If 700 is your price pre 19, logically they should be even lower during this crisis. As to backing up your case meeting Monke, and XXL did not help your case.[/QUOTE]Hey, if anyone knows the magic words to say or demeanor to project that will immediately and routinely turn the kind of Thai P4P girl XXL was introduced to by MP (Scratch that; The exact same girl) in Pattaya, Bangkok, anywhere and everywhere, who presumably regularly and often gets 3,000 baht for a one pop ST into a stellar GFE 1,000 baht 2 pop LT without a word of conversation about condoms or objection to enthusiastically going bareback to a CIP finish virtually every time, I am more than interested and happy to hear about it and learn. Why not.

Talking about during normal times, of course. During these Covid-19 hardship days, all usual bets are off.

Unfortunately, I don't think I have ever read here or elsewhere about any such magic words or demeanor. From anyone.

Now, if the secret to making that happen practically every time is something I cannot control and change like my race, ethnicity or age, I still don't mind hearing about it for entertainment purposes or just to pass the time. But there really isn't much I can learn from it except to choose my parents a bit more strategically and delay my year of birth by a few more decades next time around.

Not sure about Bangkok, but Pattaya many places have had this pricing for some time for ST / LT. There are clubs that will charge you different prices here is an example from one popular GoGo in Pattaya that started around 5 years ago prior to their BF was the same across the board if they got BF early it was their choice to return or not.

Girls have regulars or would get their girlfriend's customer to pay their BF so they can take the evening off. One might not think this happens often but it does I don't know in my hay day how many times I was asked given money to pay their BF. There was at times situation customers would BF a number of girls some legit some got into the group if they needed the night off and slip money to the customer.

I saw the development of the mamasan getting involved in the BF paying upfront so they can track the girl movement for the evening. Regular customers never got ask but for new ones, it became common practice. Sadly there are enough girls who will find a hole in the system and take advantage of it change the rules to protect their business these changes later like most things spread to other clubs.

Of course, like most stuff, some aren't going to like it I remember one case a popular girl couldn't understand why she had to return she ended quitting then regretting it later.

Found out the grass wasn't greener at other clubs like Sensation being on an agency contract. At this same club, their policy changed depending on the time you must return back to the club 2-3 hours and if you don't get BF again by 1 am you had the choice to go home anytime thereafter. Some girls benefited by accident doing LT for 4-5000 baht then realized if they get early ST for 2500/3000 return and get another one thereafter the math was to their benefit they could be home earlier sleeping in their own room and eating somtom.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2451488].... a stellar GFE 1,000 baht 2 pop LT without a word of conversation about condoms or objection to enthusiastically going bareback to a CIP finish virtually every time ...[/QUOTE]This BBFS thing is a confusing variable. I have only realised of late that when mongers say Thailand is better value for money than say German FKKs or Brazil, what they mean (but don't say) is in TH they get bareback which they don't in Germany or Brazil. Barebacking is an underlying current in all Thailand threads. I am not (no longer) into BB. On the contrary, being somehow into DATY, for obvious reasons I'd rather have a girl who has a habit on insisting on condoms.

[QUOTE=XXL;2451516] what they mean (but don't say) is in TH they get bareback which they don't in Germany or Brazil. Barebacking is an underlying current in all Thailand threads.[/QUOTE]BBFS is easy to find in Germany, many AO clubs, smaller FKK clubs, laufhaus, gangbang clubs, all you can fuck clubs, etc. For the most part the girls are not the best Germany has to offer but there was a Hungarian girl at Dietzenbach who imo was one of the top lookers in Germany.

For a guy wanting BBFS in SE Asia, it is more easily found in Jakarta and Phnom Penh compared to Thailand. Thailand may have more girls because of pure volume of girls but percentage wise lags far behind Jakarta and PP. I'm sure it's easy to find BBFS in PI as well.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2451492]Girls have regulars or would get their girlfriend's customer to pay their BF so they can take the evening off. One might not think this happens often but it does I don't know in my hay day how many times I was asked given money to pay their BF. There was at times situation customers would BF a number of girls some legit some got into the group if they needed the night off and slip money to the customer.[/QUOTE]

On slow nights in the club, I have had gogo girls slip me 1500 baht or whatever the barfine was and say give this to mamasan and tell her you are barfining me. Of course I'm an opportunist so I ask what's in it for me. Most will say we'll go grab some food or go have some fun. I've also received messages from girls sitting in the bar saying she doesn't want to work. She asks if I can pay the barfine and she will come over or I can go to her place. I don't consider this second group as Freebie girls since technically I still have to pay the 1500 barfine.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2451488]Hey, if anyone knows the magic words to say or demeanor to project that will immediately and routinely turn the kind of Thai P4P girl XXL was introduced to by MP (Scratch that; The exact same girl) in Pattaya, Bangkok, anywhere and everywhere, who presumably regularly and often gets 3,000 baht for a one pop ST into a stellar GFE 1,000 baht 2 pop LT without a word of conversation about condoms or objection to enthusiastically going bareback to a CIP finish virtually every time, I am more than interested and happy to hear about it and learn. Why not.[/QUOTE]Do you also walk into a buffet restaurant and ask where is the food? Because more times than a little I have posted a copy of conversations along with my reports. There is no way to help the person who is pretending to be blind see anything.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2451492]Girls have regulars or would get their girlfriend's customer to pay their BF so they can take the evening off. One might not think this happens often but it does I don't know in my hay day how many times I was asked given money to pay their BF. There was at times situation customers would BF a number of girls some legit some got into the group if they needed the night off and slip money to the customer.[/QUOTE]And once the barfine was paid these same chicks would end up in the discos where they would go for 1000 LT and be stellar GFEs. But some people refuse to understand how this could happen.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2451488]Hey, if anyone knows the magic words to say or demeanor to project that will immediately and routinely turn the kind of Thai P4P girl XXL was introduced to by MP (Scratch that; The exact same girl) in Pattaya, Bangkok, anywhere and everywhere, who presumably regularly and often gets 3,000 baht for a one pop ST into a stellar GFE 1,000 baht 2 pop LT without a word of conversation about condoms or objection to enthusiastically going bareback to a CIP finish virtually every time, I am more than interested and happy to hear about it and learn. Why not[/QUOTE]That's easy. If you are looking for BB or CIP then go to the Philippines.

Do they even sell condoms in PI 🤔 😁?

G.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2451488]Hey, if anyone knows the magic words to say or demeanor to project that will immediately and routinely turn the kind of Thai P4P girl XXL was introduced to by MP (Scratch that; The exact same girl) in Pattaya, Bangkok, anywhere and everywhere, who presumably regularly and often gets 3,000 baht for a one pop ST into a stellar GFE 1,000 baht 2 pop LT without a word of conversation about condoms or objection to enthusiastically going bareback to a CIP finish virtually every time, I am more than interested and happy to hear about it and learn. Why not[/QUOTE]That's easy. If you are looking for BB or CIP then go to the Philippines.

Do they even sell condoms in PI 🤔 😁?

G.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2451292]I also prefer less or no makeup. You're being generous, I think 1 in 20 Thai working girls knows how to do subtle makeup right, and the ultra-slutty overly made up look does not do favors to typical Thai features at all. Those monster eyebrows almost every girl is wearing these days are a special turn-off.

Tattoos don't help either, and it's hard to find a working girl these days who doesn't have them. It's possible for some tattoos to look good on a girl in her twenties, but they almost never do on any woman over 30. The tats almost all Pattaya working girls are sporting these days screams dirty gutter skank.

Thai women are at their best when they're emphasizing their natural sweetness, not aggressive skanky type of sexuality (that might suit some other groups better, like Latinas or Farang). Back in the day, it was easy to find sweet girls, but these days there's almost no working girl in Pattaya I'd want to spend time with beyond one or two shots, so for me, a LT is a thing of the past.[/QUOTE]I like them made up. I also have no problem with tats. I like a working girl who looks and acts like a working girl. As a friend says, "A dirty mind is a joy forever. ".

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2451533]Do you also walk into a buffet restaurant and ask where is the food? Because more times than a little I have posted a copy of conversations along with my reports. There is no way to help the person who is pretending to be blind see anything.

And once the barfine was paid these same chicks would end up in the discos where they would go for 1000 LT and be stellar GFEs. But some people refuse to understand how this could happen.[/QUOTE]Yes, this happens for sure! But the ones I've done it for or spoken to usually for other reasons. Tired, hangover, sick, Boyfriend or Tom problems, got some time off the next few days BF ahead paid but now want to get an early start on the road need to have BF paid my customer if they do it themselves the rate is higher. Yes, I've been told a few times they want to join their friends at I-Bar but most of the time it was for more personal reasons.

I've even done personal verbal questionnaires with girls to get a sense as to what they like in regards to customers (whites or Asians) I-Bar or Isan local clubs and majority seem to like if given a choice party at local groups. I was once told when I go to I-Bar I dance for them, when I go Isan I dance for myself from my experience I've been to both when they get going at local clubs it is as if it is Songkran that night.

I was down your neck of the woods while cruising I saw a clear sign it will not open again, NINGA GoGo, had a for rent sign or sale on the door.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2450832]Here in Whiteman's Land our malls etc are just reopening also while everyone is unemployed, broke etc. Guess what? They are all packed with people buying shit they don't want or need.
[/QUOTE]Am I the only one here who's disturbed by the fact that "Whiteman's Land" seems to become a common phrase in this forum? I think it's racist.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2451564]Am I the only one here who's disturbed by the fact that "Whiteman's Land" seems to become a common phrase in this forum? I think it's racist.[/QUOTE]You know what he means: Stolen-from-Aborigines Land. Thailand: Land with a bunch of Thai people. Whitemansland: Land with a bunch of White people.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2451564]Am I the only one here who's disturbed by the fact that "Whiteman's Land" seems to become a common phrase in this forum? I think it's racist.[/QUOTE]You are welcome to your own beliefs and concerns but lets not go getting all PC here. It's about as racist or factual as the term LBFM.

Enjoy. G.