Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=OldKool;2230250]Sousa babes are great on promises but rarely deliver alll that is promised. Most times there is very little action between the girls. I doubt most are ready for a true bi session. BB is known to provide legit bi service upon demand with certain girl who are open about their willingness. At the end of the day money talks many of these girls are deparate and will do almost anything for the dollars.[/QUOTE]True enough, but I have a bi regular and we operate at the same speed! LOL.

She has a few GF's and of course one in particular, but we are happy warriors and we share everything, and no jealousy, although a couple of her friends prefer not to have her main squeeze around when we all get together. When it does happen, no problem, except they might leave a little early.

So there's a big difference between a puta "happy hour", and and sometimes joining in to a bi experience.

This sort of stuff, obviously, take time to develop, and since this is the first time I've experienced it in 10 years, or so, it may be a one off!

But, Sosua never ceases to surprise!

[QUOTE=Oakie;2230688]There are mongers here who forget that mongers and hoes are all part of the same industry, and in my book hooker, hoe, puta = john, mark. monger.

As a monger, I am part of it myself, but I don't need to put down sexual partners, or brag on some fake superiority shit to make myself feel better about it.

As a monger, I just enjoy it, and leave the moralizing to the churches.

To get the most out of a place like Sosua, I would suggest visitors judge only the level of service, and value for money, and let that other shit go.

If you don't like the locals, it's easy enough to stay the hell away from them!

As usual IMHO and YMMV![/QUOTE]Very true. Pretty rich reading about the derogatory names that mongers give to the women they go to for sex. As if SHE is a lowlife, and he is not.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2231068]Very true. Pretty rich reading about the derogatory names that mongers give to the women they go to for sex. As if SHE is a lowlife, and he is not.[/QUOTE]It's funny really.

In a free market, it is the suppliers of goods and services that always have an edge. Whether it be drug dealers, McDonalds or Sosua putas, they prey on needy customers and finish up with the money.

Drug dealers aren't desperate, McDonalds aren't hungry, and the Sosua hookers don't go half way around the world to find their johns. They just sit on a bar stool or walk by the bar! I give them the edge.

That's why we call them "hookers"! :)

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2231068]Very true. Pretty rich reading about the derogatory names that mongers give to the women they go to for sex. As if SHE is a lowlife, and he is not.[/QUOTE]Precisely why my country is in the position it is in today. It is fine to say anything about men and they need to stand there and take it, but don't you dare say anything negative about a woman no matter how true it may be.

So it appears to be a convention that Sosua has been overrun by the ignorant, ghetto-acting rapper wanna be men from New York and New Jersey chasing the innocent, respectable Dominicana victims of poverty.

As far as I am concerned nobody is better than anyone else, but it seems others want to imagine that the almonds in their dressing don't have legs.

We go vaction and think we are Brad Pitt. I see guys on the strip fat, out of shape, looking old and even smelling bad. These same guys expect hot girl to treat them like they are Brad Pitt. These girls are not that good at acting. If you do not bring your A gamee do not expect GFE. If you are happy with casas then then that is different game.

[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2230667]U
.....The flip side of the coin is that some of the females who must work in Sosua are simply from impoverished areas in the Dominican Republic. They have pictures of homes and families on their smart phones that show poverty but not the hood or ghetto.....[/QUOTE]That goes for a lot of the young chicas that are occasional or weekend visitors to Sosua, who come in to make a little quick money.

They come in from the hills and the country where they are part of extended families. They are used to pitching in with the chores from a very early age. The family is very important to them. If you ever are invited to spend a weekend at the family house or farm, and I've been to quite a few, you'll find them pitching in with the washing and cooking and generally helping momma, even the very young ones who learn early, while you drink beer and coffee with the boys. They give money to their families, and buy clothes for Momma and younger siblings, who they rely on to take care of their babies when they have them. Their houses are clean, if simple, they cook all their own meals, and many go to church on Sunday. They don't do drugs. No ghetto!

It's this family connection that makes them responsible, resourceful, know how to put a good meal on the table, and not afraid of hard work. It's a world away from the city hookers you meet back home, or even the hard core regulars you'll see on the Sosua streets every day of the year. The ones who have service jobs in the restaurants typically live in the neighborhood towns, Abajo, La Union, Charamicos, with a family taking care of their kids. The first thing they'll show their friends are pictures of their kids. They are very proud of their kids.

When you get to know these people, you find you cannot tar them all with the same brush at the lowest common denominator, there are as many different levels of chicas, newbies, occasionals, part timers, weekenders, semi pro and full blown hard core street girls, as there are many different levels of mongers. We are not all the same, obviously! .

As a resident, you learn to be discerning and pick out the ones that you enjoy being with, and who enjoy being with you. That choice is available in Sosua, and the DR in general. You can quickly sort out the actresses! :)

[QUOTE=Oakie;2231244]That goes for a lot of the young chicas that are occasional or weekend visitors to Sosua, who come in to make a little quick money.

They come in from the hills and the country where they are part of extended families. They are used to pitching in with the chores from a very early age. The family is very important to them. If you ever are invited to spend a weekend at the family house or farm, and I've been to quite a few, you'll find them pitching in with the washing and cooking and generally helping momma, even the very young ones who learn early, while you drink beer and coffee with the boys. They give money to their families, and buy clothes for Momma and younger siblings, who they rely on to take care of their babies when they have them. Their houses are clean, if simple, they cook all their own meals, and many go to church on Sunday. They don't do drugs. No ghetto!

It's this family connection that makes them responsible, resourceful, know how to put a good meal on the table, and not afraid of hard work. It's a world away from the city hookers you meet back home, or even the hard core regulars you'll see on the Sosua streets every day of the year.[/QUOTE]Great post Oakie, I was thinking about that yesterday. Going from tourist to expat living here I asked myself what's next. I realized I needed more value out of my relationships while living here. This required me to look a little deeper with my women. I quickly noticed that a few, especially the ones a little older (30-35) seemed to have more of an understanding and value in appreciating a good thing. A 20-25 yo girl who is just learning life and doing the young thing (fast money, drugs etc) is not worth my investment in time and money.

I see many expats who stay in tourist mode and can't escape the lure of easy cheap sex with gorgeous young women. They realize over time time that that they never experienced growth from the game and are still on the merry go round. You get what you give.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;2230200]Thanks, I'm headed back in November; maybe things will change by then?[/QUOTE]Thank for the info. Heading back in 3 weeks and what can you say? The high season is coming back and so it might loosen up. What if we all invaded Caberete? Ahh. Is the casino still there after they close down at midnight? Please advise.

Peace,

I hear a lot of complaining about music on here, but what that shows is you are out of touch and past your prime. Do you know one of the easiest ways to pull a hot chick is to be able to dance. A young hot chick wants to dress up and go to the club does not make her immature. In fact, it makes her normal. To me, what is immature is older dudes complaining about the music and knowing the real reason is you cannot put two steps together. Sorry to break the news last year hip hop surpassed rock and roll in downloads and streams. Hip hop culture us inviting to everyone. Trap dembow is the hottest music in the DR right now for young chicks. You do not know the song "taste with offset" and tyga or bad bunny your "out of touch". Chicks love an older dude that can dance, but most of you all just refuse to change with the times. I hate to tell you this, but young chicks naturally align with the hip hop culture. You might not like it, but that is the reality. So, either you change with the times or sit on the sidelines and complain like a sad out of touch man. Start practicing or sit and watch and complain. Kaviar on Sunday is popping with music in order: trap dembow, reggaeton, hip hop, bachata.

You want a hot chick to fit your style. Good luck. Better get realistic or get left behind keep complaining because young chicks not listening to you.

[QUOTE=Revere;2231456]I hear a lot of complaining about music on here, but what that shows is you are out of touch and past your prime. Do you know one of the easiest ways to pull a hot chick is to be able to dance. A young hot chick wants to dress up and go to the club does not make her immature. In fact, it makes her normal. To me, what is immature is older dudes complaining about the music and knowing the real reason is you cannot put two steps together. Sorry to break the news last year hip hop surpassed rock and roll in downloads and streams. Hip hop culture us inviting to everyone. Trap dembow is the hottest music in the DR right now for young chicks. You do not know the song "taste with offset" and tyga or bad bunny your "out of touch". Chicks love an older dude that can dance, but most of you all just refuse to change with the times. I hate to tell you this, but young chicks naturally align with the hip hop culture. You might not like it, but that is the reality. So, either you change with the times or sit on the sidelines and complain like a sad out of touch man. Start practicing or sit and watch and complain. Kaviar on Sunday is popping with music in order: trap dembow, reggaeton, hip hop, bachata.

You want a hot chick to fit your style. Good luck. Better get realistic or get left behind keep complaining because young chicks not listening to you.[/QUOTE]When I was young and cool, I never thought of going to places like Sosua to dance or get laid, I got all I could handle (and more) where I was!

I still don't see young guys going to Sosua to get laid, as "cool"!

I always wonder what their problem is back home.

Sosua caters to a culture where old guys, past their prime, like me, can still be part of the scene, dancing and partying with young and beautiful chicks. Even taking them home, afterwards!

The only time in years I danced back home was at weddings, and found it boring, just standing there waving my arms.

It is changing, like you say, as NA culture takes over the world, but old folks down here still bachata, salsa and meringue and don't feel out of place doing it. You can do this impromtu at many local bars without anybody batting an eye. The staff may even jump over the bar to dance with you!

And even the young ones haven't forgot how to dance the local steps.

To me there is nothing better than seeing a Dominican couple, young or old, do it the way it was meant to be done.

Dance music in the West was always a generational thing, but the DR had music that all could dance to, from the 2 year olds to the 90 year olds.

Sad to see that go, but hey, everything changes eventually.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;2231279]....I see many expats who stay in tourist mode and can't escape the lure of easy cheap sex with gorgeous young women. They realize over time time that that they never experienced growth from the game and are still on the merry go round. You get what you give.[/QUOTE]What's your problem with "easy cheap sex with gorgeous young women"??? Lol

As an ex pat, you maybe don't have a vacation budget any more, but basically, as you say, once you've been around the block a few times, you look for quality time.

To me that means having a woman that meets more than your sex needs, someone who knows the scene, is well connected, is respected by her peers, and can make things happen. Cooking and cleaning is a big plus! So is lifestyle, drinking at my pace, disliking overpriced restaurants, and getting to bed early, like I do.

In fact the biggest aphrodesiac to me is seeing her in the kitchen cooking good healthy local food, with a big proud smile on her face!

I'm happy here, and I owe a lot to your early advice, but if things turn sour, I'm going to blame Mr Gogo, Lol.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;2231279]Great post Oakie, I was thinking about that yesterday. Going from tourist to expat living here I asked myself what's next. I realized I needed more value out of my relationships while living here. This required me to look a little deeper with my women. I quickly noticed that a few, especially the ones a little older (30-35) seemed to have more of an understanding and value in appreciating a good thing. A 20-25 yo girl who is just learning life and doing the young thing (fast money, drugs etc) is not worth my investment in time and money.

I see many expats who stay in tourist mode and can't escape the lure of easy cheap sex with gorgeous young women. They realize over time time that that they never experienced growth from the game and are still on the merry go round. You get what you give.[/QUOTE]After being an expat for awhile, I have got to the point where I have observed how other expats operate and at the same time evolved into accepting and / or appreciateing other mens preferences in how they operate. Even if it doesn't jive with how I operate.

Take one guy I know that's 62 and on Social Security. He gets what you may describe as cheap sex from young women. But that is his preference. He is not interested in investing time and money in a relationship. Now just because he chooses to operate like that, that doesn't make how he operates a negative, nor does it mean he's never experienced growth from the game because he is assumed to be on a merry go round. He may have grown from a perspective that some never considered or knew existed.

Like in the states, when a man chooses to stay single and just screw multiple young women, he's not said to be in tourist mode for doing that? He's said to be exercising his options to remain single. Just because a man does the same thing in a foreign country, that doesn't mean he is in tourist mode. He's just exercising his options the same way. Enjoying variety.

IMO, there are many ways and reasons for how expats operate. For instance, I see expats like myself who used to place a lot of focus and attention towards women, has made getting with women more of a maintenance thing for physical reasons moreso than for emotional reasons. And as a result, men like this have less need or desire to form relationships. These men may be quite content and emotionally fulfilled. Unlike some expats that may need more from their interactions with women. Neither should judge the other simply because each has different needs or pursuits or lack thereof.

There are advantages for an expat not being in a relationship. One is being freer, without having to lie or sneak around, having a variety of women. Cheap sex, or long term regulars with no attachments. And that might work well for a man who is not looking for any long term emotional connection with women. The expat who is looking for something more meaningful with a woman, is doing so because he needs it. And it's done with the expectation that "his woman" is supposed to supply the sex along with everything else. And the general expectation that he aint supposed to be going outside of that relationship to get sex elsewhere. The reality is, sooner or later that man with the meaningful relationship is going to go outside of that relationship to get cheap sex with other women. And when he does, what does that make him? Does that mean he is in tourist mode? No. It just means he is doing the same thing other men are doing who have no need or desire to be in a relationship in the 1st place.

Another thing to take into consideration, is the fact that men may want different things at different times. So if an expat is seen playing the field getting cheap sex with young women, so be it. In his own time he may choose something different. Whatever and when he chooses is entirely up to him. If after some time he chooses to continue to play the field, he may have good reason for why that's the best option for himself. Same for the guy who values having a meaningful relationship. They may come a time when that man wants something different. Thats when he will change modes and operate like the detached guy. The point is. WHERE YOU STAND ON THE ISSUE DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU SIT!

I have met enough men who have been married and now divorced. Enough men that have never been married and highly value being single without taking on other peoples responsibilities. In fact, that is one main reason why enough expats choose not to have a relationship while living abroad. They just don't see the value of taking responsibility for other people and their families. Perhaps that's what they did back in the states, and now living abroad have no need to do that all over again.

Further, getting away from a place like the US, expats no longer have to live by rules placed on them by society. Which is exactly what enough expats bring with them to a foreign country. Enough expats have figured out that they don't have to live up to anybodies idealistic view of how a man is supposed to live his life or be concerned about being vilified for his choices. Men choose to live abroad to get away from all of that judgement and scrutiny. Not for it to be re-introduced in another form.

I think a good policy to have for any expat is to live their life the way they see fit. And others will do the same. Lastly, for enough expats, women are so plentiful and available in the DR, that they don't have to be a mans main pursuit and concern. The part of getting juice cheap or otherwise has been solved. The best thing about being an expat in the DR, is the ability to live a lifestyle that is healthy, affordable, laidback, free of the obligations and stress from ones own home country. Free to live comfortably without having to apologize for it or live up to the expectations of folks from where you come from. In other words, there may be a lot more an expat may be paying attention to that is just as important to him in the long run, than interacting with women for cheap sex or relationships.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2231578]men that have never been married and highly value being single without taking on other peoples responsibilities. In fact, that is one main reason why enough expats choose not to have a relationship while living abroad. They just don't see the value of taking responsibility for other people and their families. Perhaps that's what they did back in the states, and now living abroad have no need to do that. Enough expats have figured out that they don't have to live up to anybodies idealistic view of how a man is supposed to live his life or be concerned about being vilified for his choices. Men choose to live abroad to get away from all of that judgement and scrutiny. Not for it to be re-introduced in another form.

I think a good policy to have for any expat is to live their life the way they see fit. And others will do the same. Lastly, for enough expats, women are so plentiful and available in the DR, that they don't have to be a mans main pursuit and concern. The part of getting juice cheap or otherwise has been solved. The best thing about being an expat in the DR, is the ability to live a lifestyle that is healthy, affordable, laidback, free of the obligations and stress from ones own home country. Free to live comfortably without having to apologize for it or live up to the expectations of folks from where you come from. In other words, there may be a lot more an expat may be paying attention to that is just as important to him in the long run, than interacting with women for cheap sex or relationships.[/QUOTE]Hello WRX,

The first statement fits me to a tee. I plan on retiring in Philippines in 2002 - 3. Maybe have a live-in there / maybe not. But I still want to come to DR at least once a year to enjoy the busty young beauties there. At least that's my plan for now. I have no desire to retire in California where I live. Too damned expensive. Florida? I dunno. If I'm going to suffer in the heat and hurricanes there I might as well go to the tropics and live out my years in the upper class surrounded by young honeys. Cheers.

Your summary was on point.

I think a good policy to have for any expat is to live their life the way they see fit. And others will do the same. Lastly, for enough expats, women are so plentiful and available in the DR, that they don't have to be a mans main pursuit and concern. The part of getting juice cheap or otherwise has been solved. The best thing about being an expat in the DR, is the ability to live a lifestyle that is healthy, affordable, laid back, free of the obligations and stress from ones own home country. Free to live comfortably without having to apologize for it or live up to the expectations of folks from where you come from. In other words, there may be a lot more an expat may be paying attention to that is just as important to him in the long run, than interacting with women for cheap sex or relationships."

I love that last sentence.

Basically I was letting Oakie know how I appreciate his development and I'm on the same page. No need to over analyze this. If an expat is happy banging cheap girls only it has no effect on me. Comparing how we operate in the States to how we operate here never plays into my thinking here. If a person changes his mind later never plays into how we feel now etc. To each his own, and you are correct mostly.

[QUOTE=DCups;2231585]I plan on retiring in Philippines in 2002 - 3.[/QUOTE]Correction: 2022- 3. Cheers.