American Politics

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2559555]See attached a chart for the USA Unemployment Rate from 2008 to present from the USA Bureau of Labor Statistics. A breakdown by race and gender would look essentially the same.

As everyone can see, the dramatic rise in the unemployment rate that occurred under GW Bush was brought down under Obama-Biden beginning in 2009 after the positive effects of their American Recovery and Re-investment Act hit the streets (with zero votes and support from any Republican) in a downward trajectory so steady and certain it would have continued in that direction until it hit historic lows within months of Obama leaving office no matter how much golf Do Nothing Trump played after taking office.

Even Trump and his GQP's one and only significant economic legislation they finally managed to vomit out on the last business day of 2017, The Tax Cut and Jobs Act, which, at a cost of $2. 5 Trillion, produced fewer jobs in the 3 years pre Trump's Pandemic than Obama-Biden's legislation produced in their last 3 years without it along with no discernable improvement in GDP Growth, could not interrupt the downward trajectory for the unemployment rate set in motion by Obama, Biden and the Dems years earlier.

Trump had absolutely nothing to do with it. And neither did any other Republican..[/QUOTE]Its pretty much a waste of time presenting facts to Canada. He is firmly in the alternative fact universe of Trumpism that any lie Trump spoke is the new truth. If you dispute the new truth you will just be subject to rants about socialism, BLM and antifa. Canada will never provide facts because he has "faith" and that is all that matters to him.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2559455]The problem is that your points have been refuted one by one, over and over, and with facts and source citations. Your method and that of Trump and his other proteges is to ignore the rebuttals by changing the subject or repeating the same lies over and over again. It's very predictable, and frankly one has to be pretty bored to continue playing this game with you. You'll of course be the last man standing, will be here posting until if and when the site becomes defunct or hell freezes over. So anyone else seeking to get in the last word, forget it. Never underestimate a Trump fan's dedication. Lololol.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I, too, am done.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2559555]See attached a chart for the USA Unemployment Rate from 2008 to present from the USA Bureau of Labor Statistics. A breakdown by race and gender would look essentially the same.

As everyone can see, the dramatic rise in the unemployment rate that occurred under GW Bush was brought down under Obama-Biden beginning in 2009 after the positive effects of their American Recovery and Re-investment Act hit the streets (with zero votes and support from any Republican) in a downward trajectory so steady and certain it would have continued in that direction until it hit historic lows within months of Obama leaving office no matter how much golf Do Nothing Trump played after taking office.

Even Trump and his GQP's one and only significant economic legislation they finally managed to vomit out on the last business day of 2017, The Tax Cut and Jobs Act, which, at a cost of $2. 5 Trillion, produced fewer jobs in the 3 years pre Trump's Pandemic than Obama-Biden's legislation produced in their last 3 years without it along with no discernable improvement in GDP Growth, could not interrupt the downward trajectory for the unemployment rate set in motion by Obama, Biden and the Dems years earlier.

Trump had absolutely nothing to do with it. And neither did any other Republican.

In fact, among Trump's monumental failings as a so-called president, his economic stewardship was arguably the worst of them. After all, his 2018 decision to defund and cripple the Pandemic Prevention and Response system and teams specifically created and developed to prevent the kind of conditions the world has had to suffer for the past 15 month as well as his lying in sync with China's Xi about the reality of it were Trump ECONOMIC decisions. He boasted about the 2018 defunding and crippling because he "saved American taxpayers" some piddling $150 million or so. And his Pandemic producing lies in early 2020 were told so as not to upset Xi in the midst of the trade negotiations that "Make sure I win!" Trump botched anyway.[/QUOTE]This is so false that it is not even worth trying to explain. Just look at the economy in 2019 compared to Obama years and the employment numbers. That explains everything.

No one on this post can name one good thing Biden has done but finally I can. Texas democrats are forcing Biden to continue with building the wall that Trump started. It is only 13.8 miles in Texas but it is desperately needed. He won't admit there is a crises but at least he agreed to continue with the wall.

[QUOTE=Canada;2559611]This is so false that it is not even worth trying to explain. Just look at the economy in 2019 compared to Obama years and the employment numbers. That explains everything.

No one on this post can name one good thing Biden has done but finally I can. Texas democrats are forcing Biden to continue with building the wall that Trump started. It is only 13.8 miles in Texas but it is desperately needed. He won't admit there is a crises but at least he agreed to continue with the wall.[/QUOTE]LOL, call evidence as false but cannot provide your own. Typical Canada. Its not that hard to find out that Trumps growth in GDP and jobs was the same rates as Obama achieved whilst Obama was reducing the deficit Trump the debt king was expanding it massively.

I previously noted a number of Biden initiatives that answered your question. Seems you have a very selective memory. We are not here to teach people who obviously don't have any learning capacity.

Student loan borrowers perplexed by Biden administration's continued defense of Trump-era lawsuits.

"When Biden was elected, I was like 'Yes, here is someone who has heard about our fight, who heard about our struggles. He'll take care of this," said Kulka, 33, who owes $10,000 in federal student loans for a certificate in medical administration. "But we're still here. I want to be optimistic, but I've been waiting for so long. ".

Justice has reversed the government's position in several high-profile cases involving the Affordable Care Act, voting rights and sentencing since Biden took office. Federal attorneys have even dropped a Trump-era lawsuit accusing Yale University of discriminating against Asian and White applicants.

Yet when comes to cases involving federal student aid, consumer attorneys say the Biden administration is moving at a glacial pace.

"I'm shocked that more than 100 days in we're still in an active appeal on something that is so opposed to what the Biden administration claims it's about," said Toby Merrill, director of the Project on Predatory Student Lending, a group representing borrowers in multiple Trump-era cases, including the class-action lawsuit in which Kulka is involved.

She added: "We won the case so all they have to do is follow the law. It's incredibly frustrating to our clients who have been waiting for so long for someone to do the right thing. ".

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/05/14/student-loan-debt-trump-biden/?outputType=amp[/URL].

[QUOTE=GDreams;2559617]LOL, call evidence as false but cannot provide your own. Typical Canada. Its not that hard to find out that Trumps growth in GDP and jobs was the same rates as Obama achieved whilst Obama was reducing the deficit Trump the debt king was expanding it massively.

I previously noted a number of Biden initiatives that answered your question. Seems you have a very selective memory. We are not here to teach people who obviously don't have any learning capacity.[/QUOTE]Here it is.

[URL]https://www.statista.com/statistics/193290/unemployment-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/[/URL]

Government statistics show USA e.

Unemployment hit all time low and more people were working in USA than ever before in 2018 and 2019. But whenever I prove it you just go to a liberal fact checker and dispute it.

[QUOTE=Canada;2559611]This is so false that it is not even worth trying to explain. Just look at the economy in 2019 compared to Obama years and the employment numbers. That explains everything.

No one on this post can name one good thing Biden has done but finally I can. Texas democrats are forcing Biden to continue with building the wall that Trump started. It is only 13.8 miles in Texas but it is desperately needed. He won't admit there is a crises but at least he agreed to continue with the wall.[/QUOTE]You seem to be under the illusion that Trump walked in and all of the sudden the economy went gangbusters. The DOW was at 6,000 when Obama took office and at 18,000 when he left. He did the hard work of cleaning up the mess Bush Light left in the wake of two unfunded, undeclared wars. Fortunately, the American people threw Trump out on his ass after four years, before he could do much irreversible damage- though he damn sure tried. Anyone who wants to go back through the ebbs and flows of the economy over the last century will see a pattern of progressives building the economy only for conservatives to come along, get us into a war, and destroy the economy, which leads the people to elect another progressive to fix it.

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2559674]You seem to be under the illusion that Trump walked in and all of the sudden the economy went gangbusters. The DOW was at 6,000 when Obama took office and at 18,000 when he left. He did the hard work of cleaning up the mess Bush Light left in the wake of two unfunded, undeclared wars. Fortunately, the American people threw Trump out on his ass after four years, before he could do much irreversible damage- though he damn sure tried. Anyone who wants to go back through the ebbs and flows of the economy over the last century will see a pattern of progressives building the economy only for conservatives to come along, get us into a war, and destroy the economy, which leads the people to elect another progressive to fix it.[/QUOTE]To get the economy going and to get Americans back to work to get unemployment to record numbers Trump had to reverse a lot of Obama regulations Trump tried to reduce size of government and give more back to the people but was only partially successful. Now with Biden president he will reverse a lot of the successes of Trump and the American people and increase government and regulations which will cause companies to charge more and inflation to skyrocket. In 4 months we are well on the way with inflation at 4%. Groceries, gas, electric and lumber are the first signs of record inflation which hurts the lower income.

Families the most. Don't need to fact check this just go to the pump or grocery store and decide for yourself.

[QUOTE=Canada;2559681]...inflation at 4%. Groceries, gas, electric and lumber are the first signs of record inflation which hurts t...[/QUOTE]1) Have you ever reviewed your posts from six months or a year ago regarding Biden? What do you think your predictive accuracy has been?

2) In light of (1), why do you continue posting? Don't you examine your motives or your success rate? Do you ever think about the electricity you have wasted and perhaps the poor, innocent electrons you have murdered?

3) More critically, why do I respond? (sigh). Have you heard that old joke? "Arguing with someone on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics -- even if you win, you're still a retard. " Okay, let me take my own advice and do something far more useful: wax the car, study French verbs, masturbate, or maybe simply pass out under a tree in the back yard.

"USA —Democratic leaders across the country have called on Trump to take responsibility for his part in the sinking of the Titanic, which occurred in April of 1912.

"Until Trump admits that his hateful rhetoric led to this horrible tragedy, we will not be able to heal as a nation," said Rep. Adam Schiff of California. "We must get to the root causes of nautical disasters like this one, and we all know what the main root cause is: Donald J. Trump. ".

Leaders on the left pointed out that Trump and the right have typically been skeptical of climate change, which may have caused the iceberg that hit the Titanic to break off a glacier, dooming the vessel. They also suggested that Trump's hate and hubris reached back in time and inspired the builders of the Titanic to create such a faulty design with not enough lifeboats.

"In the age of Trump, even our early 20th century shipbuilders aren't immune to his brand of arrogance and hate," said Beto O'Rourke.

Dems also called on Trump to admit he had a hand in the creation of New Coke, the Cuban Missile Crisis, and the hateful fearmongering that led to the rise of Jack the Ripper.

"Basically, all murders, all hate, all injustices since the dawn of time can be laid at Trump's feet," said Cory Booker, who is a senator in our timeline. "I am Spartacus!" he then added that Trump was also responsible for the murder of Spartacus. . . "

Full article:[URL]https://babylonbee.com/news/dems-criticize-trump-for-not-taking-ownership-of-the-sinking-of-the-titanic[/URL].

[QUOTE=Canada;2559681]To get the economy going and to get Americans back to work to get unemployment to record numbers Trump had to reverse a lot of Obama regulations Trump tried to reduce size of government and give more back to the people but was only partially successful. Now with Biden president he will reverse a lot of the successes of Trump and the American people and increase government and regulations which will cause companies to charge more and inflation to skyrocket. In 4 months we are well on the way with inflation at 4%. Groceries, gas, electric and lumber are the first signs of record inflation which hurts the lower income.

Families the most. Don't need to fact check this just go to the pump or grocery store and decide for yourself.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2559692]1) Have you ever reviewed your posts from six months or a year ago regarding Biden? What do you think your predictive accuracy has been?

2) In light of (1), why do you continue posting? Don't you examine your motives or your success rate? Do you ever think about the electricity you have wasted and perhaps the poor, innocent electrons you have murdered?

3) More critically, why do I respond? (sigh). Have you heard that old joke? "Arguing with someone on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics -- even if you win, you're still a retard. " Okay, let me take my own advice and do something far more useful: wax the car, study French verbs, masturbate, or maybe simply pass out under a tree in the back yard.[/QUOTE]I guess you are the only one that didn't know about all the executive orders Biden did. I guess you are the only one that hasn't seen the gas price increase and I am sure you think 4% inflation in 4 months is the standard for past presidents. Which country are you living in now?

[QUOTE=Canada;2559661]Here it is.

[URL]https://www.statista.com/statistics/193290/unemployment-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/[/URL]

Government statistics show USA e.

Unemployment hit all time low and more people were working in USA than ever before in 2018 and 2019. But whenever I prove it you just go to a liberal fact checker and dispute it.[/QUOTE]Yes you are correct. He did it on the same growth rates Obama achieved. If he had done absolutely nothing the result would have been the same but without blowing out the budget deficit. I would have thought that something simple as growth being 2. 3% under Obama and basically the same under Trump would have been pretty simple for a successful businessman such as yourself to understand.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2559610]Agreed. I, too, am done.[/QUOTE]Trump cultists will always chirp the loudest and the longest. That's a given. But we got the only last word that matters, that at the polls. Now keep it up.

Everything Biden and the radicals are doing is with purpose and designed to destroy the country. "The goal is to take over America and institute one party socialism over the entire country. The ends justify the means, therefor it is OK to:

Indoctrinate children in grade school with critical race theory.

Cancel the culture, rewrite history, control the media and what people can think.

Open the border, let millions in, and give them welfare checks. Nationalize voting rules. Legalize vote harvesting with no voter ID laws so insure the desired outcome.

Politicize the police and military. Place them under control of the Democratic Party.

Get rid of the 1st and 2nd amendment to the constitution. No more freedom of speech, no more right to defend oneself.

Raise taxes, Print money, Take over the economy. The real goal.

Do away with the time honored Senate Filibuster.

And Pack your Supreme Court so all this is possible.

Did I leave anything out?

Yeah, it's all Trump's fault. He is the boogey man. The enemy of the state. Just like Goldman in Orwell's "1984".

[QUOTE=Canada;2559701]I guess you are the only one that didn't know about all the executive orders Biden did. I guess you are the only one that hasn't seen the gas price increase and I am sure you think 4% inflation in 4 months is the standard for past presidents. Which country are you living in now?[/QUOTE]Your inflation rate assertion is as absurd as Fox's "4,000 people have died after getting the vaccine so the vaccine must be at fault" lunacy.

Evidently you have forgotten that much of the world's economy has been shut down for the past year due to COVID. Many raw material suppliers and manufacturers have been shut down. Supply has been down but so has demand.

Now that the US is starting to reopen, demand is up. But supply is still down because those mentioned above have not resumed full operation. Look at computer chips as an example. Many manufacturers of consumer goods can't get the chips they need. The raw materials and manufacturing of those chips come from offshore and aren't controlled by Biden.

What does high demand but low supply result in? Inflation.

But your "it all Biden's fault" bloviating plays well to the MAGA crowd.