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[QUOTE=ElephantBeer;2511616]To each his own, but I rather enjoy all-you-can-eat places like Dietzenbach.
Whereas I'll get overwhelmed and picky at other FKK, trying to find just the perfect girl, turning down ones with minor flaws and waiting too long to grab the best ones. In Dietz I can just stroll in, grab a couch and know that over the next two visits I will try nearly every girl in the room. Slim and spinner (my type) or fat and silly. I'll give them all an equal go and I've surprised myself many times with how pleasurable some of the unexpected girls are. In the end, we're all just flesh, and very few of us look like Adonis. Having warm companionship (bareback) hides a host of sins. A few of the bigger naturally blonde girls from 2018 still provide endless masturbation fodder in this time of plague.
I rather dislike the traditional FKK, as you have to hope to god you get BB, and get up-charged for so much.
The food at Dietzenbach? Who the hell cares. If the food is the draw, something is wrong.[/QUOTE]For me visiting a FKK is a full day experience, I will arrive at opening time and stay up to 7 PM, enjoying, sauna, good food, expresso, and obviously the girls. I am the guy who is paying so I don't need to be a Adonis, even I am still not too bad. I only go with very beautiful fresh, natural girls, I don t care about the service only the beauty matters, sorry but to fuck so so girls I don t need to pay, fortunately they are free for me.
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[QUOTE=ElephantBeer;2511614]Traveling through on business in October next year (2021). I understand that at this point. Nobody knows. However just curious for those of you that know Germany better than I do. If you think things might be back up and running by then?
From my perspective (Asia) it looks like the west is pretty well set for vaccines. First quarter should see a lot of vaccine roll-out. Second quarter available for most who want it. And third quarter more of the same.
I've got to book the airfare and hotels (cheap from Asia and non-refundable) - you think Dietzenbach will be back by then?[/QUOTE]Unlikely, I think the days of Dietz are gone for good. I doubt the club will ever reopen. I think the club scene in Germany will never be what it was.
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[QUOTE=DFWdude;2524038]Unlikely, I think the days of Dietz are gone for good. I doubt the club will ever reopen. I think the club scene in Germany will never be what it was.[/QUOTE]Who knows?
If Freude 39 has changed hands then the same could happen to Dietz. But one consideration to think about is there are few places where you can legally open a brothel or FKK, finding a suitable building or open lot in a zone where brothels are allowed is not that simple. The sites of the current clubs have value because of that and someone may want to buy it.
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[QUOTE=Downandup;2524086]Who knows?
If Freude 39 has changed hands then the same could happen to Dietz. But one consideration to think about is there are few places where you can legally open a brothel or FKK, finding a suitable building or open lot in a zone where brothels are allowed is not that simple. The sites of the current clubs have value because of that and someone may want to buy it.[/QUOTE]Overall its too early to tell. It has been nearly a year since the clubs have been open. No business can survive that long without any revenue coming in. Yea our 40 euro entry while not much is their sole revenue stream to keep the lights on. Dietz was struggling before Covid, so I highly doubt they will return. If they do they will be totally different than before. I think seeing a "no restrictions" in life is still a good year away. So we will have to wait and see, will gangbang parties return? Will it be like the glory days? It remains to be seen. But I doubt it will go back to the way it was.
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[QUOTE=DFWdude;2524038]Unlikely, I think the days of Dietz are gone for good. I doubt the club will ever reopen. I think the club scene in Germany will never be what it was.[/QUOTE]Hahaha that's funny. Its the oldest trade in human history. Its not going anywhere. It will open when music venues, resteraunts, movie theaters and everything else that is closed on the planet re opens.
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[QUOTE=Bobbyson;2527441]Hahaha that's funny. Its the oldest trade in human history. Its not going anywhere. It will open when music venues, resteraunts, movie theaters and everything else that is closed on the planet re opens.[/QUOTE]I disagree.
Many people, including ISG forum users, have been deeply emotionally scarred and have bought so much into the fear mongering and propaganda by media and government, that they have become so scared of death that they are also scared of living. They want to hide inside their houses behind a layer of masks and bottles of disinfectant, and nothing will get them outside anymore. A "vaccine" might get them outside for a brief while, but the slightest news of a "mutation" will automatically trigger the same emotional fear reaction, demanding more lockdowns and more "vaccines" and more fear mongering. (Corona virus mutation is normal, so that is guaranteed to happen) Just look at the reports from summer last year when some venues were briefly open: poor lineup and poor attendance. It's not just the men / customers that will stay away, but the fear mongering also has a huge effect on the women.
At my work we also have a number of people that have become completely paranoid, usually hysterical women and the 'not so bright' men, of the kind of men that usually get ripped off when buying a new car. LOL!
I wonder how many FKK clubs have already thrown in the towel and are either bankrupt or have stopped their business, but because everything is closed, this is not yet visible. How will those clubs stay financially afloat when only 30-40% of the girls and men show up if they are allowed to reopen? How can they stay financially afloat after being closed for nearly 1 year already, for example Sharks or GT, two of my favourite clubs?
Anyway, I wonder what the "exit strategy" is of those 'scared to death' forum members. Or are they just like a tiny rubber rowing boat, floating directionless in the middle of a hurricane on the high waves of an ocean, getting tossed around by the emotional waves and emotional wind from the media and politicians?
What's their threshold for returning to normal? Zero flu deaths? Have they actually thought this through till the end? Or are they intentionally sabotaging our hobby on this forum?
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2527450]I disagree.
At my work we also have a number of people that have become completely paranoid, usually hysterical women and the 'not so bright' men, of the kind of men that usually get ripped off when buying a new car. LOL!
[/QUOTE]Sounds like real MGTOW or incel bullshit. Sex for sale will return when other businesses return. People will still want money and other people will still want sex.
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Is this place back up and running now?
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2527450]I wonder how many FKK clubs have already thrown in the towel and are either bankrupt or have stopped their business, but because everything is closed, this is not yet visible. How will those clubs stay financially afloat when only 30-40% of the girls and men show up if they are allowed to reopen? How can they stay financially afloat after being closed for nearly 1 year already, for example Sharks or GT, two of my favourite clubs?.[/QUOTE]We have discussed this endlessly. The reality is that no one here knows. None of us have seen the balance sheets of any of these clubs. How are they surviving? Borrowing and cutting costs. If they are indeed run by illegal elements as some said, those owners could be sinking more money into these clubs because they have other motives besides making profit from the clubs. If the club owners are legal and profit seeking, they might have borrowed more to stay afloat, or perhaps had built a war chest for a rainy day like this; or perhaps they sold to someone else with more money than they do.
Until we see their financial statements, we are only speculating.
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[QUOTE=PlayToDef;2582778]Is this place back up and running now?[/QUOTE]No, still closed.
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[QUOTE=Culte;2582994]No, still closed.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot.
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A big IF and when Dietz reopens it will likely be not what it was pre-pandemic. It was already on the down hill before. I hope I am wrong, but I doubt it will ever be what it was.
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[QUOTE=DFWdude;2583650]A big IF and when Dietz reopens it will likely be not what it was pre-pandemic. It was already on the down hill before. I hope I am wrong, but I doubt it will ever be what it was.[/QUOTE]Am I correct in that, if Dietz closes, the closest FKKs with similar services would be the RTC clubs in NRW? Dolce Vita Raubach used to be the closest, but it was still a 90-minute drive on the Autobahn.
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What other low cost options are on the table ATM?
I was thinking of doing maybe 2 weekends in a row and start both by visiting a cheap FKK to let off some steam (either Dietz or an RTC) and then move on to some posh club.
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[QUOTE=PlayToDef;2585590]What other low cost options are on the table ATM?
I was thinking of doing maybe 2 weekends in a row and start both by visiting a cheap FKK to let off some steam (either Dietz or an RTC) and then move on to some posh club.[/QUOTE]There will be huge demand for AO in an RTC-format. At least from me!