Phnom Penh

[QUOTE=Marrow]Eww haha.

p.s. Who the hell is Dr. Smith? O.o[/QUOTE]

OK I think I understand. Maybe not possible. Foreigners can only get the leftover crumbs these days. Not good. I have no interest in those cheap brothels, that is just depressing, and never see really hot girls in those places.

When I mentioned "Dr. Smith" that was a joke -- the member signed off "Will Robinson" and his nick includes "LostInSpace" -- that was a bad science fiction tv show in the US in the 1960s, Will Robinson was the young son who was usually the main character in the story; Dr. Smith was the ship's scientist who often got caught up in these adventures, but the guy was a selfish dishonest cowardly type who seemed to be gay (but in those days no one would say that, but he sure seemed very girly). He would usually cry when he got caught by some alien. It was a pretty bad show, more in the style of a 1950s B-movie.

[QUOTE=Wendella]"LostInSpace" was a [very, very] bad science fiction tv show in the US in the 1960s, Will Robinson was the young son who was usually the main character in the story; Dr. Smith was the ship's scientist who often got caught up in these adventures, but the guy was a selfish dishonest cowardly type who seemed to be gay. [/QUOTE]
In the quirky and very funny 1989 film, "Mystery Train" by Jim Jarmusch there is a character named Will Robinson (the bell hop I think) and whenever another character would visit the hotel he would say "danger, danger" and wave his arms in reference to the robot on "Lost in Space" that always delivered that line whenever aliens were near.

Funny movie. I guess Jarmusch like a lot of us were held captive of that show back in the 60's when there were only 3 channels and everything sucked most of the time. I hated "Lost in Space" but watched it anyway because that was the only thing on the air in that time slot.

[QUOTE=Alien Sake]Hi,

I often read here about Vietnamese offering their services in Cambodia.

Does anyone actually know why that is? I mean why do they go to a country that is even poorer (on paper)?[/QUOTE]The vietnamese in Cambodia can make more money there, It goes on in Vietnam but theres a lot of restrictrions, things like you can't take an escort to a hotel.

[QUOTE=Kuranyi]Been to heart of darkness yesterday and took a 21 year old from ghana out there. Never thought I would meet a black hooker in Cambodia.

ST was 25$. Did I overpay? Wasnt sure about hear of darkness prices and the exotic bonus. Performance was so so. No BJ but body was fine.[/QUOTE]


Yes, $25 for ST is overpaying. Unless this foreign woman was from a more western country then they will not settle for less but Ghana is still a 3rd world country to me so $25 is still too much.

Shark

[QUOTE=Iching]The vietnamese in Cambodia can make more money there, It goes on in Vietnam but theres a lot of restrictrions, things like you can't take an escort to a hotel.[/QUOTE]Yep, they make much, much more. Not so easy have enough money for a Mercedes SLS AMG GT3, without hotels :D Not a joke, i really hope noone tough this freelancers with their funny sad story, are seriously poor, right? ;)

I just met recently a freelancer, old friend, 28 years, on this car hanging around. Guess where..

[QUOTE=Iching]The vietnamese in Cambodia can make more money there, It goes on in Vietnam but theres a lot of restrictrions, things like you can't take an escort to a hotel.[/QUOTE]

Based on my trip to Vietnam in February this year you can take a girl to your room - depending on the hotel. In the higher end places you cannot but in the cheaper, often very nice places you can. One place told me before 10pm was ok. ST is fine with me so that worked. They didn't even blink when I brought 2 girls up.

I've wondered about all the Vietnamese in Cambodia too. Most of the girls I've done since I've been here have been Viets. Again, in my very limited experience it is much easier here in all ways. I'm in Siem Reap now and I met a Viet FL who lives next door to my guesthouse. I can call her and she comes right over - I asked her to bring a friend next time. She said she thinks she can. I met another one in town not far from pub st early one evening. Maybe she'll bring the other one I met, hahaha.

[QUOTE=Methos]Based on my trip to Vietnam in February this year you can take a girl to your room - depending on the hotel. In the higher end places you cannot but in the cheaper, often very nice places you can. One place told me before 10pm was ok. ST is fine with me so that worked. They didn't even blink when I brought 2 girls up.

I've wondered about all the Vietnamese in Cambodia too. Most of the girls I've done since I've been here have been Viets. Again, in my very limited experience it is much easier here in all ways. I'm in Siem Reap now and I met a Viet FL who lives next door to my guesthouse. I can call her and she comes right over - I asked her to bring a friend next time. She said she thinks she can. I met another one in town not far from pub st early one evening. Maybe she'll bring the other one I met, hahaha.[/QUOTE]There are raids, continuosly, in vietnam. And if the girl is caugh, go to jail. Nothing like this happens on cambodian hotels (Naga included) ;)

[QUOTE=Alien Sake]Hi,

I often read here about Vietnamese offering their services in Cambodia.

Does anyone actually know why that is? I mean why do they go to a country that is even poorer (on paper)?[/QUOTE]

Vietnam Invaded Cambodia and effectively ruled the country for ten years. a lot of Vietnamese moved to Cambodia at this time. A lot of Vietnamese have been born in Cambodia since and lived there all of there lives.

After reading good reports on the web about the 69 bar, I decided to try it last night.
At around 10pm I entered the door and discovered 2 male patrons inside surrounded by a dozen of hostess vultures - figuratively speaking. I was ready for some close combats...
As soon as I sat down, 3 hostesses engaged me and immediately gave me massages. One of them actually gave good massage, so encourage her to keep going. And after some time, I bought a round of drinks for them.
Pretty soon I spotted a cutie by the bar and I invited her over. By the time, the 2 men had left and I was the only guy in the establishment. She couldn't do a good massage, but I decided to keep her for takeout.
After a few more rounds of drinks, I asked her out but she said NO. What the fcuk?! Someone gave an explanation that she is having her period. I insisted and then heard another excuse that she's a virgin.
I thought that was my sign to cut the loss and paid the tab and ran. Damage was $37. More men had entered when I left...
I then crossed the street and checked out Candy bar. That bar is a dump. I saw a couple of lady boys as well. But fortunately I ran into a old girlfriend - Anna and so I took her out. 7 drinks altogether and barfine cost $30.
Anna took me to this disco that is around the corner of Walkabout called Saint Tropez (not sure if that's the real name, 'cause I only saw Khmer writing on the outside). Once inside I saw a few more cuties, but then it was too late to switch - not without ruining my little left reputation. But I will revisit that place very soon on my own. ;-)

Spaceman

[QUOTE=AlLostInSpace13]
I then crossed the street and checked out Candy bar. That bar is a dump. I saw a couple of lady boys as well. [/QUOTE]

I was there less than a year ago, it seemed about the same as all those other bars in the area in terms of quality -- what set it apart was that it just had far MORE girls than other places around there. I didn't spot any lady boys -- sure about that? Ladyboys aren't too big a thing in PP, as far as I know (but always ready to be re-educated if things have changed).

As for 69, that kind of thing is common on 136 St and 104 St from what I've heard. I experienced it once myself on St 104 -- very enthusiastic attention, up until the moment I asked the girl I was with about going to the hotel. She wasn't available. Definitely changes the mood of the evening when that happens, from happy to very annoying. Not a very smart game on their part, I bet a lot of customers lose it when they hear that, being a few drinks in the bag and all, when guys are more likely to think everything is a person affront.

But if you work it a bit, play it cool, you can get somewhere with some of these girls on 104 and 136. I did manage it before I left PP. I guess sometimes it will be easy, sometimes it will take some effort, and sometimes the door will be slammed in your face no matter what you do. Sounds like the stories you got were just stories, probably. More likely is that she's one who either doens't go with customers or else only goes with ones she knows. So an expat in other words, and not a tourist.

[QUOTE=Wendella]I was there less than a year ago, it seemed about the same as all those other bars in the area in terms of quality -- what set it apart was that it just had far MORE girls than other places around there. I didn't spot any lady boys -- sure about that? Ladyboys aren't too big a thing in PP, as far as I know (but always ready to be re-educated if things have changed).

As for 69, that kind of thing is common on 136 St and 104 St from what I've heard. I experienced it once myself on St 104 -- very enthusiastic attention, up until the moment I asked the girl I was with about going to the hotel. She wasn't available. Definitely changes the mood of the evening when that happens, from happy to very annoying. Not a very smart game on their part, I bet a lot of customers lose it when they hear that, being a few drinks in the bag and all, when guys are more likely to think everything is a person affront.

But if you work it a bit, play it cool, you can get somewhere with some of these girls on 104 and 136. I did manage it before I left PP. I guess sometimes it will be easy, sometimes it will take some effort, and sometimes the door will be slammed in your face no matter what you do. Sounds like the stories you got were just stories, probably. More likely is that she's one who either doens't go with customers or else only goes with ones she knows. So an expat in other words, and not a tourist.[/QUOTE]I think one of the issues is that a number of the girls in those bars are married or with a long-term boyfriend.

I've had the same experience and it really winds me up. I remember thinking to myself at the time, 'if they're not there to screw what the hell are they there for? That's the point of it being a girlie bar.'

It's a terrible feeling, not being able to get laid in a girlie bar, it gives one pause.

[QUOTE=Wendella]I was there less than a year ago, it seemed about the same as all those other bars in the area in terms of quality -- what set it apart was that it just had far MORE girls than other places around there. I didn't spot any lady boys -- sure about that? Ladyboys aren't too big a thing in PP, as far as I know (but always ready to be re-educated if things have changed).

As for 69, that kind of thing is common on 136 St and 104 St from what I've heard. I experienced it once myself on St 104 -- very enthusiastic attention, up until the moment I asked the girl I was with about going to the hotel. She wasn't available. Definitely changes the mood of the evening when that happens, from happy to very annoying. Not a very smart game on their part, I bet a lot of customers lose it when they hear that, being a few drinks in the bag and all, when guys are more likely to think everything is a person affront.

But if you work it a bit, play it cool, you can get somewhere with some of these girls on 104 and 136. I did manage it before I left PP. I guess sometimes it will be easy, sometimes it will take some effort, and sometimes the door will be slammed in your face no matter what you do. Sounds like the stories you got were just stories, probably. More likely is that she's one who either doens't go with customers or else only goes with ones she knows. So an expat in other words, and not a tourist.[/QUOTE]The ladyboys are there. You better believe it.

There are plenty of girls that do go from bar 69 and all the bars on 104st and 136st. You just have to ask. The fact that you waited until you have bought several drinks is not her fault. Dont be shy. if its a girl you want to take out ask. Otherwise enjoy the company and have your fun while your in the bar.

There is a commonly accepted agreement on this forum about the fact that PP sex scene has be going down the hill for a while.

My current Khmer-very-bi GF and I (see pics below) are now trying to get some more excitement and to revive a bit the scene into meeting new couples for some 4some and moresome action with couples under 40 (she sets the rules...) with the same "sex for fun" mood.

The scene is now still slow but I believe that being more active could contribute to warm up Phnom Penh.

I will be back in PP by the end of this month. Interested to join? pm us and we will see what we can do from here!

Cheers,

Lulu

[QUOTE=Sabretongue]The ladyboys are there. You better believe it.[/QUOTE]

I didn't think the Candy bar was a dump. It is larger with more girls than most hostess bars. But then you can say virtually every bar in Cambodia is a dump.

Yup, there's a few ladyboys there. I don't recall of any other bars that has 'em. The owner (if it's the same owner from 2 years ago) said that she hires 'em because some people like 'em. Well, to each his own.

Wendella needs to retake "How to spot a ladyboy 101" LOL!