Angeles City

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2872706]What kind of bow wow dude?[/QUOTE]Somewhere north of Angeles and south of Baguio if my memory still works. Rough and ready roadside place. I just bought it to see, no questions ask, like chewy mutton if memory still works. Not sure what breed. In Australia, butcher would not sell me kangaroo meat, when I said I wanted to eat it.

SAS, you learn how to gut a rat and eat the parts that will not kill you.

I had some joke in my mind but it is gone.

Good luck to you and your friends short timing Mr Nappa.

Guys claiming no Koreans tip more, no Americans tip more, the facts are nobody knows and who gives a shite who tips more or less, the simple facts are Angeles better looking girls choose an Asian every time over a westerner so the girls must be happy in their choices, that's all that counts.

Explorer: [I]The Koreans frown upon "their" bargirls going with Farangs. So, the ladies are hesitant about being seen leaving the bar with a Farang, as the consequences may be unprofitable. You will eventually leave AC, but the bargirl has to work there after you are gone[/I].

NS: [I]Lets not forget that many Korean owned bars also frown on their girls leaving with whitey, hear many times from Korean friends that they like Asian only girls and would not dream of buying drinks or bar fining a girl that gives attention to whitey, yes its a crazy notion by ohh so true[/I].

Hahaha WOW! They don't want the gogo girls going with an entire other race? An open confession of K racism, and K insecurity wildly showing itself.

Is someone (s) compensating for something? Did all those pics of my mediocre schwanztooga cause this? Hahahahahaha.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2872373]I am in town along with a few other ISGers.

They want to buy you beers.

Saturday, December 2nd, 7 pm Lollipop Bar. You can introduce us to the owner and manager. Also we can check out the other bars. We can do a community beauty contest.

Drinks on us.

Saturday is your night crawl. Please don't disappoint us.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your offer of drinks but in truth we have nothing to discuss at all, in truth we would probably fall out within 2 seconds flat, of course enjoy your trip.

I don't think the girls or bars give a shit what race you are (with a few exceptions). If you spend the money you will get cute girls. Don't listen to the geriatric expats who are salty because they are getting outspent by the tourists.

And duh, of course the Koreans have more to spend when they pay $250 to fly from Seoul and only stay for the weekend. Most of those guys are probably working class though and on the bottom tier of Korean society.

I do admit though, some of the girls in Angeles bought into the K pop fantasy and think Korea is full of romantic 25 year old males who are great dancers with film star looks. They don't realise its a marketing plan by LG and Samsung to make Korean products cool to sell more phones. I went to Korea once and it was overpriced, cold and boring as fuck.

Korean tourism is not that different from many others. Go to the Japanese sector of Bkk. They don't want outsiders. They want to relax. In their way. Now, much of Bkk, AMSTERDAM and Pattaya are family friendly tourism traps because that is where the money is.

Angeles is a sex tourism / STI trap because US forces were based there. Some old dogs can still be found there. Then some Korean wise guys found a way, their way, not Carlito's Way, to make money out of it. Sob sob.

But all tourist traps are dives. Prague, to many foreigners living there, Venice, too many tourists. Before, in the nineteenth century, the rich did the grand tour of Europe. Trains, lots of luggage and servants. Now all you have is Ryanair, gap year students and idiots taking selfies.

As regards Angeles, things change. Napp won't even short time with the other dudes here. Suck it up.

[QUOTE=Breadman;2872826]I'd recommend not going into these Korean bars but if you do try to negotiate a lower drink price if you have a few guys with you.[/QUOTE]And you wonder why you don't get screamed at. You can negotiate pretty much everything in the bar including the bar fine. But drink prices is just taking it to a new low. If you're in a group you'd sound better bar fining a load of girls and asking them to lower barfines a bit than moaning about drinks.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2872728]

For some reason I seem to gravitate to the slums. In Jakarta I'd take Kota Indah over Malio. In Thailand I'd take Pattaya over Bangkok. In HCM I would take Pasteur over Bui Vien. In Germany, I'd take Mondial over Oase/Sharks. In all cases I find the stereotyped lower end places more fun.[/QUOTE]Some truth to this. I usually do both the higher end and also very low end bargirl hunting. Just to check out what is what. IMO, I've had the better times at lower end places than the more expensive ones and going home with more money in my pockets don't hurt either.

In Jakarta, my favorite was Kalijodo. It was the biggest brothel bar area in the world before the govt came and bulldozed it down nearly 10 yrs ago. It was a place mainly for locals as I've never seen a foreigner there when I visited. So many hundreds of cuties to choose from all night from the dozens of bars all within several narrow alleyways and mazes. Unforgettable experience.

Pattaya bars are fairly cheap if you seek some hands on action. Usually a LD will get you some top and bottom touching without having to commit to takeout as its all in bar fun (but BF and take out from many Pattaya bars can be pricy).

All this hubub about about money being the end-all-be-all. Admittedly I'm not as handsome as I was when I first went to AC in 2017. But when I was there last year, I was fit, well groomed, nicely dressed, white (I guess I have to say this because the gringos are taking a beating on the forum lately), the incredibly hot door girl from Monsoon saw me sitting there on the front rail at Kokomos and was jumping up and down and waving at me and blowing kisses, and I knew I had a very very easy target. We ended up hooking up a few times, yes the first time was a barfine but the rest were not. Don't act like money is everything to these girls. Women are basically the same all over the world, and money (success) is only a part of what attracts them to you.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2873108]. Women are basically the same all over the world, and money (success) is only a part of what attracts them to you.[/QUOTE]Sure thing Casanova. Tell a normal Pinay woman she is the same as an Angeles hooker and run.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2873108]All this hubub about about money being the end-all-be-all. Admittedly I'm not as handsome as I was when I first went to AC in 2017. But when I was there last year, I was fit, well groomed, nicely dressed, white (I guess I have to say this because the gringos are taking a beating on the forum lately), the incredibly hot door girl from Monsoon saw me sitting there on the front rail at Kokomos and was jumping up and down and waving at me and blowing kisses, and I knew I had a very very easy target. We ended up hooking up a few times, yes the first time was a barfine but the rest were not. Don't act like money is everything to these girls. Women are basically the same all over the world, and money (success) is only a part of what attracts them to you.[/QUOTE]So unless you're Over 65 then you looked 5 years more mature which implies 5 years richer. In a addition to fit, groomed, nicely dressed, white. So you looked like you had plenty to spend. After the first bar fine she might have realised this is a nice guy I'd love to spend more time with him and his money. Walking street is all money. Why else would a girl be there? She probably liked you at least a bit and considered playing the longer game. Other Filipinas might not be all about money but you won't find them in WS.

It wasn't always the case but you may have a point, although a pretty small one. In AC as in the entire country, it's always about the money. Many years ago I had an almost identical situation to yours with a doorgirl from a bar that no longer exists. Much to my surprise after a stopping for a short chat she agreed to BF and off we went. For the following week she would come over after her shift. But I still paid her half of the barfine. Doubtful it would have continued if I gave her zip. Mind you the BF was 1000 in those days! Hard to believe.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2872984]Explorer: [I]The Koreans frown upon "their" bargirls going with Farangs. So, the ladies are hesitant about being seen leaving the bar with a Farang, as the consequences may be unprofitable. You will eventually leave AC, but the bargirl has to work there after you are gone[/I].

NS: [I]Lets not forget that many Korean owned bars also frown on their girls leaving with whitey, hear many times from Korean friends that they like Asian only girls and would not dream of buying drinks or bar fining a girl that gives attention to whitey, yes its a crazy notion by ohh so true[/I].

Hahaha WOW! They don't want the gogo girls going with an entire other race? An open confession of K racism, and K insecurity wildly showing itself.

Is someone (s) compensating for something? Did all those pics of my mediocre schwanztooga cause this? Hahahahahaha.[/QUOTE]It is more likely fear of disease. That is what I have heard. Koreans believe that other foreigners have more STDs and HIVs and so, if a girl goes out with a lot of non-Asian foreigners, she is more likely to have HIV or STDs. Now, it is true that America has the highest rate of STDs so there is some truth to that. The rates in South Korea are much lower.

Handsome Americans. This is rare to be honest but still reigns supreme. Talking Chris Hemsworth level. This is and will probably remain working girls dream for the unforeseeable future. These guys usually stay in the bars in BGC and head straight to Amanpulo in Cuyo, Palawan and never set foot into your normal "mongering venue". They just don't need to.

Handsome Asians 'Korean or Japanese' - We are talking about guys that look like "ENHYPEN" that just performed in Manila or Japanese Yakuza jr or lite versions that come over with the hosto bar employers back in Japan for a fun foray in AC / Manila this still happens on occasion but used to be much more popular.

Koreans ANY. The race dijour ATM, you have girls here that are dating koreans and want to date koreans who may currently reside in or are thinking about moving to the philippines this is more about the practicality of being in this scene and potentially lining up longer term more stable clientele.

"White" Americans. Same ol' ticket to the land of the free, same ol' quality of life upgrade, same ol' green backs.

"White" people from anywhere else still prefered. If you walk into a Korean bar and the korean staff bows or tilts their head down its a show of respect that you may have not picked up on and your non reciperication of this que may result in a misccomunication. Koreans also have a very strict hierarchy when it comes to age and status among other koreans. So what you perceive as preferential treatment to them is nothing more than following social norms that carry over from Korea and this system does not apply to foreigners. I don't see this as discrimination as much as everyone who is not korean are labeled as civilians in korean establishments.

Japanese. I would say 10 years ago this was the preferable race due to their agreeable temperaments but they have been going elsewhere for the most part the past few years and is continually dwindling as their rarity increases so does the demand.

Asian "Other" - Any other kind of asian is next on this list. This group is generally unremarkable. They are able to navigate these bars and are veritable unremarkable ninjas barfining girls and disappearing into the hotels. Rarely sought out over but rarely turned down as well.

"Black" American. These are actually growing in their acceptance once shunned by philipinas now welcomed among certain circles now the top pick of some working girls due to their generosity and penchant for spoiling the ladies. I have heard in at least the one barangay with 10-15 AC working girls on hold the "black" americans top the list for "support" payments.

Latin. Girls seem to be neutral on this particular race unless you happen to be spanish which is also rare.

South Asian. If you happen to be this I am sorry but this is the one instance where you may run into some blatant racism. This is self evident if you sit at the bar in kokomos and watch south asian after south asian getting turned down. The girls will always recommend a girl that is willing to go with a south asian but they certainly do not get the pick of the litter imo. If you are a good looking south asian I would say you also have no problems but if you are on the "native" side goodluck. Part of this stereotype originates from the provinces where South asian money lenders are common place. This may also spring from South Asians unwillingness to be taken advantage of, being harder to manipulate is not something a hooker looks for in a customer.

Does this really matter? IMO absolutely not. The 1-2 girls per bar that is holding out for a better deal is not going to affect you in any real sense.

Another common misconception you may or may not have about Kbars is that some of these girls are looking to replicate something their "housemates" have done and care to run in similar social circles. These girls will say they prefer korean guys and they are attracted to the burgeoning korean centric lifestyle that AC has to offer and want to be apart of that and a "foreigner" may or may not be willing to frequent and run in the same social circles and venues as a korean customer will be willing to. They are in a Kbar to catch a Kfish and you just don't happen to be the fish they want to reel in don't take it personally.

That being said pinays are always excited to meet someone with good hygiene, a sense of humor and someone who takes care of themselves and is staying for longer than 30 days. Given these traits you also will be bumped up on that list. Girls can deal with ugly or old but CANNOT deal with a dick that's smells like a wet dog and ridden with boils or someone who is also destitute 'the girls actually do feel bad taking advantage of poor men, for this reason they prefer a man that will not be totally ruined if he spends a little money. ' If you do not have a sense of humor on top of a stinky weenie and no money, yes even a lowly hooker will take a pass on you. Take a shower and don't look or act homeless like Big Joe 'search him you on youtube if you are curious' you are not going to be well received by anyone except your homeless counterparts.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2873196]The Ultimate BarGirl Patsy Tier List[/QUOTE]You left off two other groups:

Rich and famous pinoys. Like the American Chad's, don't need to go to the average Angeles flesh pit. Prefers to make use of up and coming starlets or singers. Bodyguards and minders can often be seen carrying snow shovels for clearing path through lower class pussy.

The ubiquitous trike driver or general methhead about town. A firm favourite of the poor girls from Tondo to return to after sucking flaccid dicks all day. Everyone enjoys returning to a familiar port.

Enjoy. G.