Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1652898]This is true, but Thailand is unique in that it used to have high amounts of open-ended prostitution, not just transactional prostitution which is common all over the world.

In the open-ended arrangement, the working girls going with men while looking for sponsors, and engaging in relationships of highly variable duration (from a day to years), financial and emotional components. The more common, transactional model is simply turning tricks, and while service quality might range from an unfriendly quickie to a spectacular oily (Tulip) session, the format and benefits (for both sides) are fixed.

There is an ancient (mid 1990's), but solid analysis of the two: [URL]http://goo.gl/TYa5ls[/URL].

While other countries might have more prostitutes per capita, Thailand is unique in that it had the vast open-ended scene (in addition to The Philippines, perhaps), but these days it's disappearing, girls find it more profitable to turn over several short-times per night than to engage in a long-time, hoping to snatch some more extensive and longer lasting benefits.[/QUOTE]You just described a marriage.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1652834]I would imagine they do all come from not just the "haves," but the mega haves! True on that.

I also agree that in many ways Thailand risks being trounced by its neighbors if it does not get it together soon. Neighboring nations are improving their educational system and making it easier for foreign business. Here it is the opposite. Back to indoctrination and tightening the Foreign Business Act.

I do think that Thai women are able to assume positions of power and still keep their femininity. In most nations that is not the case.[/QUOTE]When Yickluck was in power I did have visions of her being in a nice Victoria Secret white lace bra and panties!

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1653079]When Yickluck was in power I did have visions of her being in a nice Victoria Secret white lace bra and panties![/QUOTE]She was pretty damn hot when she was younger!

[QUOTE=Carpediemyes;1652768]I know one TG who is quite successful with farangs.

Her service level is tops and over the years she was.

Able to buy a house for her mom and son upcountry.

Then her mom gambled away the home in less than.

A month. This poor girl now has to do it all over again.

But she is 32 now and may not be able to repeat.

So sad the tight bonds of family combined with many.

In the family drunk, drugged, lazy, or foolish.

And the daughters have to pay for it.

A very sad situation for so many of these sweet girls.[/QUOTE]I wonder what a family with a low income in a Western country would do if one (or more) of their daughters sends them shit loads of money every month. Pretty much the same I'm afraid.

Money corrupts and makes greedy, all over the world. People are basically the same ass holes everywhere.

[QUOTE=MumbaiGuy;1652860]Planning a trip to Bangkok by end of this month. Purely for mongering. I shall be staying in Sukhumvit area within walking distance from Nana Plaza. Can anyone guide me to the top class gogo bars around the area? I am not much interested in ladyboys but don't mind a one off experience. Also can someone tell me the name of place for soapy massage other than Annies, where you get to choose pretty young girls?

Cheers. MG.[/QUOTE]Mate, just read through last 1 or 2 month pages and you will have all the info you need.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1653086]She was pretty damn hot when she was younger![/QUOTE]Yea! The impression I have without any damn experience women with power might be real nasty good in bed?

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1653104]I wonder what a family with a low income in a Western country would do if one (or more) of their daughters sends them shit loads of money every month. Pretty much the same I'm afraid.

Money corrupts and makes greedy, all over the world. People are basically the same ass holes everywhere.[/QUOTE]Just run through some of the history of those who have won the lottery in the USA And you will have your answer. Money does corrupt and makes people greedy! In Thailand, it is even more so because of how poor they are with no light at the other end of the tunnel in their life. Take how they are raise in their culture and how so many like to show off as soon as they get a little money giving people they use to know " head toe " as if their shit no longer stinks is very common from what I've seen and heard.

I would not go as far as calling people ass-so it is just human nature and if you do not have a good head on your shoulders or demand something in return for helping people out it could be a disaster?

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1652898]This is true, but Thailand is unique [/QUOTE]I've read a lot on the subject & never seen any proof that Thailand doesn't have the largest number of sex workers per capita. Just some baseless opinions. I'd suggest this is especially true as regards TGs who cater to the foreign market. Unlike most other places, in LOS there is a huge number of non females in the business. Also many thousands of TGs in the business work in countries around the globe.

Unlike places like Singapore & Germany, where the vast majority are foreign prostitutes, those of Thailand are almost all locals. Which is what my original point was about, not all hookers (foreign & local):

"Add to that the Thais being less hung up about PFP & having a higher number of PFP gals per capita than anywhere else in the world & it will probably be a prime hobbying destination for decades to come. "

We do have the General Thread, but seems people want to use the Bangkok Thread. Perhaps an Expats thread would be good rather than an Expats forum (not to be used).

Meanwhile, was interesting that the whole of cowboy came to a standstill last night around 8 PM with all the staff outside with yellow tee-shirts and holding candles in tribute for the King's birthday. Business as usual started a bit later. I had already done my ST with bargirl at 6:30. She regularly manages 3 or 4 STs per night and is very hard worker making very big money. Long time girl, tall skinny Bo who loves to do lesbian as well as guys, has returned to Suzi Wong. A true bi-sexual. When Knot comes back next week, I will take Bo and Knot for "double trouble". Bo works very well with most girls. Dtom with very tight pussy also is very good for doubles. I only take girls with nice shaped asses. That doesn't leave so many. Many girls did not work for Kings birthday.

Had a look in Doll House other day after renovation. Pretty much the same, with same old girls. A couple of new moderately pretty ones. Nothing that interesting.

Also ventured into Midnite Coyote bar, because one girl spotted from outside was hot. Inside just a few customers. Mostly Japanese. The girl I liked made a bee-line for a Japanese guy. I was left with a choice of lots of ordinary looking girls, not improved by having bra and shorts on. The Coyote dancing was not that professional and quite boring. The bar had really only 2 or 3 special lookers to my fussy taste. O.K. a bit better than SW girls but clothed. Had one drink and left. Dull dull dull! I would much rather be looking at naked girls in Crazy House. Even though line up standard in CH has dropped a little, its still just as good or better than Midnite coyote girl line up.
Maybe there is some reason a Japanese guy likes the Coyote place when he gets so much attention due to shortage of customers. Meanwhile CH is packed.

When I walked past CH one of the pretty slim girls was outside in plain clothes. She gets barfined quickly and has a lot of Japanese regulars and pre bookings. Hardly ever seen her sit with Farangs. Don't know if she fucks good or just is awfully cute. Problem in CH is, I only know one girl there that is a passionate fuck. So its not the best place to BF anyone. The best stunner I had there is gone long time now.

Had some fun at Hot Lips bar in Nana on Thursday. Noi number 12 is a girl I know for long time. Looking very good with very slim figure and fab ass. Has a tight pussy that squeezes / massages your dick. Highly recommended, BBBJ not very deep but soft okay The bar is about to change names possibly to Candyland 2. Hardly any customers. My other favourite girl there, Mint, seems to have gone. Will have to ring to see if she still works somewhere or maybe has BF.

Been in Thailand a week now, but have not tried even one new girl. Stuck on my regulars. One is so good, I hope to be still doing her in 10 years time. Just sends me to heaven. May try to take her LT on several nights. She cannot ever bore me. Even likes to wake up due to being molested while sleeping. LOL. Total GFE and can be PSE as well. My other regulars are left with only irregular chances.

[QUOTE=DRRonin;1652776]I really get this feeling from comments that you make that you think these girls are living a Mary Poppins existence. They are not. It is full of danger, full of heartbreak, full of loneliness. [/QUOTE]This fear mongering is an example of the societal brainwashing I was referring to.

[QUOTE=DRRonin;1652776]Most of these girls form deep friendships with their co-workers. This is their support system. It is what gets them through the tough times. But it comes at a price because it inevitably leads to lots of drinking and very often drugs. [/QUOTE]In hundreds of meetings with such girls I'd estimate around one percent showed any signs of being under the influence of alcohol or drugs. These were almost all ladies of the street.

[QUOTE=DRRonin;1652776]No doubt you would prefer a society where prostituting yourself is viewed as a positive moral self-enhancing activity. [/QUOTE]No, I would prefer that society is not brainwashed into thinking sex work is immoral. I'd prefer that the fear mongering, lies & Hitler like propaganda regarding such a professional career would cease.

[QUOTE=DRRonin;1652776]Maybe a country where every girl should go through a tour of duty as a prostitute for a few years. And like it.[/QUOTE]Great idea. Though I wouldn't make it mandatory. It could be offered as a course in universities or with training as a valid profession in colleges.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1653079]When Yickluck was in power I did have visions of her being in a nice Victoria Secret white lace bra and panties![/QUOTE]Or even out of a nice Victoria Secret white lace bra and panties!

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1652844]The safeguards I referred to have very little if anything to do with evaluating the customer as a potential threat, though girls can avoid obvious bad apples like drunks, drug users, the foul mouthed, & etc with ease. If you were at all familiar with the business you would know what these safeguards are.

[/QUOTE]So please tell me what they are. I will pass them on to the girls I know because they sure as heck don't know. But as a guy who has been coming here for over 20 years and has gone with hundreds of girls, developed good friendships with more than a few, lived with 2 bargirls for extended periods of time and has now lived here full time for the past 5 years on soi 4, it is good to hear that I am not at all familiar with the business. Certainly not like you. Hard to imagine a girl that you are renting by the hour not telling you about her bad experiences because you certainly sound like a wonderfully sympathetic listener. And your observational powers of never having noticed Arabs and Indians hitting on the girls make you legendary and certainly a worthwhile contributor to this discussion. So I await your safeguards with anticipation as do all the working girls in Thailand. Just address the two scenarios I gave you. A street girl is approached by a man she has never seen before and a gogo girl is barfined by a stranger through the mamasan. Please tell me step by step what they should do.

[QUOTE=DRRonin;1653255]So please tell me what they are. I will pass them on to the girls I know because they sure as heck don't know.

[/QUOTE]There would be no point, as the girls are already aware of them and or putting the same into practice. Moreover it is better that the rare bad apple is not informed. But if you don't know of a single measure sex workers take to protect themselves, google will help you find long lists of them.

[QUOTE=DRRonin;1653255]And your observational powers of never having noticed Arabs and Indians hitting on the girls make you legendary and certainly a worthwhile contributor to this discussion.[/QUOTE]That has nothing to do with the topic. I don't sit outside every day for the entire evening observing to see if an occasional Indian group will approach a street worker & be immediately rejected. I'm in my room with a girl, often for hours, & if you know anything about women, it's impossible to shut them up. Even the deaf & dumb ones, LOL. If they can speak enough English to blab away nonstop for an hour or two, as many of them can, you may be in for one hell of a ride.

I've heard stories of violence to other girls from certain nationalities, but never from a Westerner, Korean or Japanese, etc. Not that it doesn't happen, but is extremely rare. Probably way more life threatening incidents occur with the old guys they are with who have heart attacks or die during the sex act. The vast majority of Thai sex trade workers would easily beat these golden age relics in an arm wrestle. They are about as dangerous as a new born kitten.

I was shocked to notice a decline of as much as 90%, at certain times, in number of freelancers on sukumvit road during latest trip in Nov. And this is just FLS, not doables. It has certainly left me very uneasy and put a huge question mark whether it will be worth flying to Thhailand in future, considering the time money and effort involved in travelling more than half the planet.

So the question is what other alternatives can be used to increase number of freelancer encounters. I am familiar with cowboy and nana bars. Know biere garten and massage parlours etc. But is that all?

Are there any bars in BKK similar to what Pattaya has on soi 6 and beach road where one can easily bar fine a cutie or two?

By the way, if anyone is on the ground in sukhumvit, are things improving now that it is high season?

[QUOTE=Margaya;1653430]
So the question is what other alternatives can be used to increase number of freelancer encounters. [/QUOTE]Social media like Facebook, Tango, Tagged, DateInAsia etcetera.
I don't have much experience with this yet as I've only very recently started using it but there has been some positive reports here.