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[QUOTE=Revere;2238408]Now where did I say they play rock and roll in the clubs. I did not. Some of you getting old. I was just making a point. By the way, some other sound you said. You obviously are out of touch. It is trap dembow they are playing in the clubs. Some other form. Some of you just out of touch. If you knew it you would of said it. I actually do go to all the hottest clubs. Do you?. I never said rock and roll played in the clubs. Why would I say that if I go. Name the hottest clubs in the DR right now to the board. Let's see if you know.
Again, I very rarely see gringos at the hot clubs, but that is where the baddies are. Paying a chick a 1000 a peso lol. Big money in the hot clubs range rovers, BMW's outside stop thinking all chicks want to be with a cheap dude. Do not even think a hot chick coming to sosua for a 1000 pesos. They are not coming. Do not have too....just look around tonight and see if you see hot chicks running around sosua and on Sunday pop is booming. Am I lying?[/QUOTE]
First of all, a guy I met in the DR a long long time ago was right. He told me when I go to Cuba, I will forget about the D.R. . He was correct,.
Second. I don't question anything you say. Of course the hottest clubs are full of the hottest girls and the dudes with the game and money to get them. Tourists have no access and zero chance in these clubs. BTW, heard an anecdote back in the day about Vin Diesel getting no play at one of the uber chic SD clubs. And frustrated, he said. "don't you know who I am" Hahahahahahahahahah.
Third. I know of the music you speak. I sometimes like Bad Bunny (I mean I ROFLMAO when I listen to "Ya Me Canse")(aka Amorfoda) and I know the old reggatoners like Daddy Yankee are getting into the genre. And new arrivals like J Galvin.
But I've seen you argue this numerous times and I do not get your POINT.
The hottest girls aren't in Sosua? Hahahahahahhhahah no shit Sherlock. Who ever claimed they were??
I've heard it called (locally) - So- Sewer.
btw.. a lot of this trap dembow I hear now..this is nothing especially new. I heard this in Cuba and Venezuela, (something very similar) 20 years ago., especially Venezuela on the ground.. well I heard Spanish rap ..now you have the "big" Miami/Puerto Rico names getting into it and you hear the Southern rap style US influence..(which I had not heard before)
personally..you can have the "trap/rap".. and just leave the Dembow .. This song is great..... that's what I want to dance do with the hot girls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQKGI24aydk
for those who still don't know what Revere is talking about - this is perhaps the best representative song of the trap dembow genre..(and one of its biggest hits) and it's fine. I quite like it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XngTiXBPmEE
so now you know what trap dembow is
you know what the young people listen to..
you know what is played at the hottest clubs
and you know those are clubs aren't in So-Sower tourist ghetto.. and the hottest girls are also not to be found there.
any other questions?
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[QUOTE=Revere;2238256]I know a lot of you are not club people, but that is where the hot chicks are and most dudes not comfortable pulling in that environment, but that is where they are.[/QUOTE]If the guys who are dealing with busted chicks in Sosua are doing their own thing, why does this consistently concern you so much? Did it ever occur to you that some guys have figured out that paying a grip just to get next to so called hotties, and pretending like one is balling is stupid and a waste of money. No matter if she's a hottie or busted, after a dude gets a nut the result is basically the same.
Further, generally speaking, enough women are insecure creatures. Many having nothing going on but their looks for the time being, or simply having a vagina. Those hotties are no exception. You take one look at them, and you see a ton of makeup, false eye lashes, fake hair, high heels to change their profile, fake nails, and anything else I didn't mention. Before and after a dude hits it, and busts a nut, what value does that chick have after that? Busted or not, most of them women can't even hold a conversation. There isn't much they bring to the table except, looks. IMO the young cats needing hotties so bad, is probably because they werent getting any hotties back where they came from.
Meanwhile, many old cats already had their fun with the hot women of their day. But today, further along in life. With wisdom to boot. Don't require the type of women you are talking about in order to enjoy a woman. Perhaps you haven't realized yet what older cats see that younger cats fail to see. See Revere, enough men have been there and done that when it comes to being around women who are impressed by cars, status, materialism and men throwing around money. Thats what some young minded men enjoy. Others are smarter than that, even if young.
Mature men look more to getting the most bang for the buck, whereas the chicks aint sizing you up because of the type of car you drive, how much money you spend in the clubs, how much money a man throws around. For a mature man, it's much wiser to deal with women that arent in that type of environment. That might be disgusted by that kind of waste, money that they could use. Besides, I don't think them women in the POP clubs respect men that are wasteful with their money. They probably think they are fools. Paying for an experience that may only be worth 1000 pesos, but dressed up to look like it's worth more.
The bottom line. Women busted or not, none of what any fellas are doing in Sosua concerns what other men are doing in POP and vice versa. All chicks have a window before their value plummets. If they don't have education and their own source of income, as far as I'm concerned, they are all busted.
Now for the record. How much are these so called hotties getting paid? $150 $200 $300 or more? I'm trying to figure out, after you done dropped $100 - 500 dollars at the club, and a night with a hottie, what do those men get that was worth that kind of money? I'm sure you realize a womans looks has no real connection on her bedroom skills. Many a man has reported that so called hot women often are a disappointment. And like you said, the reason that is true of enough of them, because they don't have to (perform well). After a night of drinking and boozing it up, neither guys or the hot chicks remember what happened in the bedroom. And I'll bet enough guys are too embarrassed to admit they never even hit the hot girl. They fell asleep. Dumb is repeating that same pointless pattern over and over again, ending up with the same result.
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[QUOTE=Catire;2238417]First of all, a guy I met in the DR a long long time ago was right. He told me when I go to Cuba, I will forget about the D.R. . He was correct,.[/QUOTE]Never been to Cuba and I have no desire to go there. I refuse to play hide and seek with their government.
South America is now my go to place; I can find beautiful women in any country.
BTW, I can find beautiful women in the DR as well.
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[QUOTE=TomJackin;2238454]Never been to Cuba and I have no desire to go there. I refuse to play hide and seek with their government.
South America is now my go to place; I can find beautiful women in any country.
BTW, I can find beautiful women in the DR as well.[/QUOTE]I've been to Cuba at least 8 times in the last 3 years. I've been to the DR at least 18 times in the last two years. There something special about each place. But to say Cuba will make me forget the DR is Ludacris. For any of you who haven't been to Cuba I will tell you this. You will not find more young available Latin women per square feet then you fine in Sosua. The best club I've been in Cuba had about 1/4 of the women in Classico. I did do Cuba three times back to back then I started missing my camel toes.
There were times in Cuba when we had to go hunting for available chicas. And I was accompanied by two local guys. TJ have never been there before which surprises me however you are right. That cat and mouse game with the police can get under your skin and Is a big deterrent. Sometimes its like cuban government is saying we want you here spending your money but we dont want you to talk to our women Unless you know them. But I must admit I'm going back to Cuba next month after a six month layoff. Why you might ask. The flights are cheaper the women more educated and cheaper the food is better and I need to change up.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2238375]I have hobbied all over the world and have not come across dudes who are hostile if you bang their wgs. The closest was India but the guys just looked at you but never said or did anything. However, in any country if you bang a non-pro who happens to be some bloke's GF you may get a different response.[/QUOTE]That's true enough, about wgs, but in my youth, I have been in lots of local places where it was dangerous to try to pick up local women. The U. K. (where I'm from ) Scotland, Detroit and the Bahamas particularly stand out as places where we got in trouble with locals, and couldn't even go into some bars and local dances, unless we had enough backup to get us in and out without a fight. Even then somebody would start something up!
But the scent of fresh pussy always outweighed the risk!
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Sosua is a popular spot!
A few demographic facts:
The Dominican Republic is internationally known as "The paradise of the Caribbean"- Wiki.
It is the most popular tourist spot in the whole Caribbean.
The DR has over 6 million visitors a year.
Our Sosua Forum, is by far the most commented on "monger" destination.
So, there's definitely something going on in Sosua.
Even the Sosua haters congregate here to complain about it! For some reason they cannot "move on" to their so-called greener pastures. Lol
Revere's lifestyle and mine could not be more different, but we both find what we want here!
And, that's really something to be said about the place!
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Not my intention to get into a Cuba vs DR thing. To each their own. And of course every place has beautiful women.
I just think Cuba happens to have more than most other places. And certainly more than DR. Per square foot. Etc.
So it's a matter of the convenience of the DR. Versus the uniqueness and beauty of Cuba (and its women). (and the bad infrastructure)
Just my own preference. One other place that I remember is walking along Lido in Caracas back in the day during lunchtime. With all the secretaries out of their offices etc.
If you just started going to Cuba in the last several years. (8 times in last three years eh?) . And you cannot speak decent Spanish, then I would feel your frustration and pain. I just happen to remember a different Cuba and even now retain the ability due to language fluency to swim in different circles (also have some local friends).
You may very much be better off going to the D.R. and I've had my own fun there As well. Including "So-sewer" (though given what I read on this board now, sounds like I wouldn't really want to return?
Anyways. To each their own. The world is big and there are amazing women everywhere.
BTW. I've been listening to that La Ocasion trap dembow song all day. Once you crank it up on great earbuds. Or subwoofer, speakers it's a different experience.
Love that song. And I have always liked Latin Rap more than American. Because it has always been more melodic. But now the PR / Miami gang has added the American style sophisticated Dr. Dre style backtrack beats. And the results. Well. Are amazing.
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[QUOTE=Catire;2238717]Not my intention to get into a Cuba vs DR thing. To each their own. And of course every place has beautiful women.
I just think Cuba happens to have more than most other places. And certainly more than DR. Per square foot. Etc.
So it's a matter of the convenience of the DR. Versus the uniqueness and beauty of Cuba (and its women). (and the bad infrastructure)
Just my own preference. One other place that I remember is walking along Lido in Caracas back in the day during lunchtime. With all the secretaries out of their offices etc.
If you just started going to Cuba in the last several years. (8 times in last three years eh?) . And you cannot speak decent Spanish, then I would feel your frustration and pain. I just happen to remember a different Cuba and even now retain the ability due to language fluency to swim in different circles (also have some local friends).
[/QUOTE]OK you made the statement and wasn't looking to start a Cuba vs DR the thing. Cool I wasn't going to debate you I just gave my own experience.
Forgive me if I sound a little defensive. What do you think the reactions will be if I go on the Thailand board and told them someone told me if I ever go to the Philippines, I will forget all about Thailand?
That statement alone is a contradiction. Obviously you haven't forgot or else why would you be here on this board.
I didn't base my analogy on the over all beauty of the places but mostly on Chica availability and accessibility.
From your statements; You are Obviously a well traveled monger and I think the board can learn from your experience. But don't give me your "Ifs" Because you do not know my level of Spanish "which is so so by the way". I did say I was accompanied by two locals.
I'm not frustrated Or in pain about Cuba I don't know why some guys assign words or actions other didn't say.
I owe a lot of this board. Giving my advice and my experience is my way of paying back. Sometimes I hear something that's contradictory to what I've witnessed first hand I feel its my duty to share my experience. So newbies out there can hear others observation.
I don't know what Cuba you were in where you experience this Youll forget the DR. But IMHO they are far more available females in the DR
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[QUOTE=Oakie;2238684]That's true enough, about wgs, but in my youth, I have been in lots of local places where it was dangerous to try to pick up local women. The U. K. (where I'm from ) Scotland, Detroit and the Bahamas particularly stand out as places where we got in trouble with locals, and couldn't even go into some bars and local dances, unless we had enough backup to get us in and out without a fight. Even then somebody would start something up!
But the scent of fresh pussy always outweighed the risk![/QUOTE]I think there are pockets in every country where its dangerous for tourists to try to pick up non-pro local girls. You veer off the tourist areas off the beaten path into a local community and try to pick up a non-pro local girl and you are going to attract unwanted attention.
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[QUOTE=Oakie;2238684]That's true enough, about wgs, but in my youth, I have been in lots of local places where it was dangerous to try to pick up local women. The U. K. (where I'm from ) Scotland, Detroit and the Bahamas particularly stand out as places where we got in trouble with locals, and couldn't even go into some bars and local dances, unless we had enough backup to get us in and out without a fight. Even then somebody would start something up!
But the scent of fresh pussy always outweighed the risk![/QUOTE]Detroit!? I'm from Detroit. I'm dying to hear your story about what happened in the the.
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I don't know what Cuba you were in where you experience this Youll forget the DR. But IMHO they are far more available females in the DR[/QUOTE]I would quibble with your assertion that there are "far more available women" in the DR. The question is "available to whom"? To a point and click monger type, probably. To other types. Highly debatable.
And even if I agreed with that assertion, I happen to prefer the looks of and sexual experience (s) with Cubanas over Dominicanas. (and I actually prefer Haitianas to Dominicanas also for that matter) You're welcome to feel otherwise.
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[QUOTE=BrotherP;2239175]Detroit!? I'm from Detroit. I'm dying to hear your story about what happened in the the.[/QUOTE]Ok, here goes!
I spent a lot of time crossing into the border States, from Canada on land business. I always enjoyed it over there. Still do when I get a chance! I am always comfortable over there! Buffalo and Detroit.
But I used to love the old porno theaters downtown Detroit, where at some point they had some fine dancers wandering around offering anything you wanted between shows, and an adult bookstore up by Davison and Woodward, where they'd let girls come into the peep booths. I'm talking late 80's here, and I'm a little embarrassed to admit it.
One day, Coming off 75 on to Davison I'm waiting on the off ramp, and I see 3 or four guys stripping a new car, wheels, everything, that was pulled over on to the shoulder with one guy keeping his eyes peeled for the cops. They looked at me, and the message was keep moving. So I did!
Later I checked in at my go to local go-go bar for a beer on 8 Mile (topless only) and spent another hour or two watching the girls and talking to a big white guy at the bar. One thing led to another and he said he was going to a place where everything goes, and If I wanted I could come along. I followed him in my Cadillac Seville down Woodward to a bar near downtown. Sure enough I couldn't believe what I saw, bjs, hjs and even laptop ic going on in the booths and at the tables. Loved it and got my share of the action, but I was waiting for one amazing young blonde who was the star of the show. At one point I looked around and my guy wasn't there anymore, and I'd had a few beers. I was the only white guy there! A big black guy comes up to me and says something like it's time to go pal, and he meant it! I wasn't about to argue.
I grew up in a very rough neighborhood, I got cat eyes in the back of my head, so I'm not easily intimidated. I went out back to the pitch black parking lot, looked around carefully and made a run for my car and started her up. 3 guys come out of the shadows and want me to roll my window down, they are hollering they need my jack. I don't think so, so I got the headlights on and luckily saw a clear way out (thanks to smart parking and backing in), and gunned the car outa there with the guys hollering and kicking at my car (still had the dents for a while) today they'd probably have guns.
Didn't stop me from going to Detroit every chance I got, though, and the motel at the corner of Woodward and Davison became my friendly home away from home.
But I wouldn't go back to that bar without my big pal and maybe a couple of his buddies!
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[QUOTE=Catire;2239184]I would quibble with your assertion that there are "far more available women" in the DR. The question is "available to whom"? To a point and click monger type, probably. To other types. Highly debatable.
And even if I agreed with that assertion, I happen to prefer the looks of and sexual experience (s) with Cubanas over Dominicanas. (and I actually prefer Haitianas to Dominicanas also for that matter) You're welcome to feel otherwise.[/QUOTE]I am a monger. I am always a Tourist outside of my country and I base my experience on my hobby in general. From point and click. To go and get. I do it all in this hobby. I also have an affinity for studying my environment and sharing my information to other mongers in general.
If the question is "available to whom"; the answer is Mongers in general. The two local guys (in their 20's) I hung out with we're doing the same thing I was doing. Looking for available chicas that's were willing to do something strange. For little piece of change.
I will agree with you. I to prefer the overall sexual encounters with Cubans over Dominicans and Haitian. The sessions are more raw and uncut. And the phrase "leeche papi leeche" a Dominican practice.
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[QUOTE=Oakie;2239215]Ok, here goes!
I spent a lot of time crossing into the border States, from Canada on land business. I always enjoyed it over there. Still do when I get a chance! I am always comfortable over there! Buffalo and Detroit.
But I used to love the old porno theaters downtown Detroit, where at some point they had some fine dancers wandering around offering anything you wanted between shows, and an adult bookstore up by Davison and Woodward, where they'd let girls come into the peep booths. I'm talking late 80's here, and I'm a little embarrassed to admit it.
One day, Coming off 75 on to Davison I'm waiting on the off ramp, and I see 3 or four guys stripping a new car, wheels, everything, that was pulled over on to the shoulder with one guy keeping his eyes peeled for the cops. They looked at me, and the message was keep moving. So I did!
Later I checked in at my go to local go-go bar for a beer on 8 Mile (topless only) and spent another hour or two watching the girls and talking to a big white guy at the bar. One thing led to another and he said he was going to a place where everything goes, and If I wanted I could come along. I followed him in my Cadillac Seville down Woodward to a bar near downtown. Sure enough I couldn't believe what I saw, bjs, hjs and even laptop ic going on in the booths and at the tables. Loved it and got my share of the action, but I was waiting for one amazing young blonde who was the star of the show. At one point I looked around and my guy wasn't there anymore, and I'd had a few beers. I was the only white guy there! A big black guy comes up to me and says something like it's time to go pal, and he meant it! I wasn't about to argue.
I grew up in a very rough neighborhood, I got cat eyes in the back of my head, so I'm not easily intimidated. I went out back to the pitch black parking lot, looked around carefully and made a run for my car and started her up. 3 guys come out of the shadows and want me to roll my window down, they are hollering they need my jack. I don't think so, so I got the headlights on and luckily saw a clear way out (thanks to smart parking and backing in), and gunned the car outa there with the guys hollering and kicking at my car (still had the dents for a while) today they'd probably have guns.
Didn't stop me from going to Detroit every chance I got, though, and the motel at the corner of Woodward and Davison became my friendly home away from home.
But I wouldn't go back to that bar without my big pal and maybe a couple of his buddies![/QUOTE]LMAO! Sounds like the the! I'm glad you got out unharmed. I know that bookstore. I graduated in 86, so I'm a little behind you. I'll be back in the sue in late Dec. I'll pm you and we'll have a few beers and share war stories. Or working girl stories! LOL. ✌.
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[QUOTE=BrotherP;2239255]LMAO! Sounds like the the! I'm glad you got out unharmed. I know that bookstore. I graduated in 86, so I'm a little behind you. I'll be back in the sue in late Dec. I'll pm you and we'll have a few beers and share war stories. Or working girl stories! LOL. ✌.[/QUOTE]Look forward to it! Beers on me!
(I'd had a few beers and I never thought my life was in danger, I grew up with these punks. Empty my wallet and leave the car, it was insured. I would have challenged them to leave me cab fare!)
In Scotland, they had no sense of humor and they would have happily kicked the shit out of me! That was scary!