[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1654005]Traveling more than half the planet is a bit of an oxymoron. Next time just head in the opposite direction!
[/QUOTE]That depends, traveling in the opposite direction can take more time.
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[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1654005]Traveling more than half the planet is a bit of an oxymoron. Next time just head in the opposite direction!
[/QUOTE]That depends, traveling in the opposite direction can take more time.
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I think the cost for these social media ladies will be higher than a SW as they are computer savvy (educated) and functionally on call to your convenience.
SL.[/QUOTE]Maybe. But I don't mind paying a little extra for a good shag. And I've read reports from guys scoring freebies on these sites. Although we all know it's hardly ever really free in the end.
Thanks Mogwai for the mention of Tagged, new to me. Far better than Tango as it lets you search other places wherever you are whereas Tango only lets you search from your current location.
[QUOTE=Bart1;1654057]Thanks Mogwai for the mention of Tagged, new to me. Far better than Tango as it lets you search other places wherever you are whereas Tango only lets you search from your current location.[/QUOTE]Tango lets you do that I think. In the Discover People pop-up, click on Around the World and type in the location that you want to check. I was doing Bangkok from back in the USA. What you won't get are winks from girls from anyone outside of your location. Since I have been back here a few weeks ago I have gotten about 10 winks from girls of which a few of them were cute and young.
Back from 1 week in Bangkok. I RTFF before I go and retreived some valuable tips. So time to give something back.
Best tip I read here: Crazy House! OMG! Without any doubt the hottest place in BKK. Now I understand why it is not situated on Soi Cowboy itself but just around the corner. It makes Soi Cowboy looks like a joke!
The man from Iran has many young and beautiful coyotte girls standing in front of his bars: "Only looking, not touching. " Crazy House has the same quality level of girls, dancing full nude on stage, and ready to be bar fined.
I went almost every evening to CH, retreiving many girls back to my hotel. All girls I had were good, non of them were really bad performers.
First evening I saw in the back a quit shy girl. It turned out she was from Cambodia and only 4 days working in CH! Truly beginners luck. I had a great fuck with her despite she didn't want to give BBBJ.
All the other girls did. I can't remember all the names of the girls I had but number 3 and 20 I remember as very good sessions and BB all the way.
After a while I started to be friend with the manager (Linda) and the owner of the place. She noticed I was not in BKK on a budget and started to point out for me her best girls and introducing me to her new arrives.
At the other hand she always wanted tips and drinks what was quit annoying.
I don't know who does the recruitment but this person does a hell of a job. Linda introduced me to some very nice girls.
I remember some girls so tight I just blow up my condom every time!
My hotel was Legacy Suites. Another good tip from this forum. I had a big room with little salon to chat up with the girls before hitting the bedroom.
They also never checked ID's what was good because Linda sometimes warned me a girl had no ID with her.
Other places I visited only 1 time because they were no match for Crazy House.
NEP. I go inside Rainbow 4 but girls too old and chubby for my taste. Then to Mandarin. Met a nice girl named Boum. Not a super face but great body, no kids.
Toke her LT and she was hot. She wanted to go in bad first and mounted my dick after a while bb.
Mixx and Fashion bar. Very beautiful Russian girls there. Models I guess. Mixx was almost empty.
Climax. Very crowded. Full of FL's, many of them very drunk. I only see few beautiful girls. Most in their 30's and probably with kids.
Nataree. Wanted to try out a soapy for the first time.
I went inside Nataree, VIP, Colonize and Emanuelle.
Colonize and Nataree had the most beautiful girls.
I ended up in Nataree. Inside I saw a nice girl sitting alone on the couch.
I choose her and turned out to be the most expensive girl 5000 B.
I wasn't so crazy about this whole soapy idea. The water in the tube was rather cold and the A/C blew full power.
I had very cold and my little friend also. I asked to turn off the A/C and a BBBJ brought my friend back to life.
The girl only spoke Thai but she was sweet. Also very tight and I blew up the condom again. She cried when she realized I blew my load deep into her pussy.
A bad day at the office I suppose.
Soi 22 Pern Massage. Met up front nice girl, named So. She gave me a good massage and really excellent hand job!
Soi 23 Near the end on right hand side forget name shop but girl's name was them.
She gave me an excellent oily massage. I was her first customer that day and she was full of energy.
Also good FS with condom. Really nice girl.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1653179]Yea! The impression I have without any damn experience women with power might be real nasty good in bed?[/QUOTE]The Hildebeast? OMG! No way.
Of course, I think she bats for the other side, so my point may be moot. :D
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1653220]"Add to that the Thais being less hung up about PFP & having a higher number of PFP gals per capita than anywhere else in the world & it will probably be a prime hobbying destination for decades to come. "[/QUOTE]The elephant in the room, that everybody is studiously ignoring, is demographics.
The indisputable fact is that Thailand's birth rate has been dropping radically for years. Depending on the source, it's now around somewhere between 10 and 12 per 1,000 population. That's down from around 16 a decade ago. That's at least a 30% drop. By contrast, the PI is double, somewhere around 24 per 1,000. That, too, has been declining, but only at less than 1% during the same decade.
Nonsensical statements, like cultural brainwashing, aside, I don't think there is a major culture in the world where prostitution is considered a viable career option. Women aren't wired that way. However, there will always be a percentage of a given population that will work in that trade. The percentage will go up during hard times, and go down during good times, but, overall, I think it remains reasonably constant.
Now I don't care if that percentage is 3%, 5%, or 10%. The cold hard fact is that every year a segment of that population in Thailand ages out of that industry. And they are not being replaced. The segment that enters the market is, by definition, smaller in number than the one it's replacing.
So, you can whistle past the graveyard all you want. The fact is that, unless something happens to dramatically increase the birth rate, or Thailand goes into a major economic meltdown, it will not be a prime hobbying destination for decades to come.
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1654128]Tango lets you do that I think. In the Discover People pop-up, click on Around the World and type in the location that you want to check. I was doing Bangkok from back in the USA. What you won't get are winks from girls from anyone outside of your location. Since I have been back here a few weeks ago I have gotten about 10 winks from girls of which a few of them were cute and young.[/QUOTE]You are correct, brain fade on my part, I was thinking of Wechat.
I can sure tell my posting was not on the Medellin site, I would have been jumped on and my head served on a platter for my mistake. Thanks for your gentle suggestion that I was possibly incorrect.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1654225]The elephant in the room, that everybody is studiously ignoring, is demographics.
The indisputable fact is that Thailand's birth rate has been dropping radically for years. Depending on the source, it's now around somewhere between 10 and 12 per 1,000 population. That's down from around 16 a decade ago. That's at least a 30% drop. By contrast, the PI is double, somewhere around 24 per 1,000. That, too, has been declining, but only at less than 1% during the same decade.
Nonsensical statements, like cultural brainwashing, aside, I don't think there is a major culture in the world where prostitution is considered a viable career option. Women aren't wired that way. However, there will always be a percentage of a given population that will work in that trade. The percentage will go up during hard times, and go down during good times, but, overall, I think it remains reasonably constant.
Now I don't care if that percentage is 3%, 5%, or 10%. The cold hard fact is that every year a segment of that population in Thailand ages out of that industry. And they are not being replaced. The segment that enters the market is, by definition, smaller in number than the one it's replacing.
So, you can whistle past the graveyard all you want. The fact is that, unless something happens to dramatically increase the birth rate, or Thailand goes into a major economic meltdown, it will not be a prime hobbying destination for decades to come.[/QUOTE]Excellent point. And I will add to that; Thailand's population pyramid inverted in '97. It is an aging population, although on a walk around BKK you would think otherwise.
Guess those Catholics in the 'Pines just breed more.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1654225]The elephant in the room, that everybody is studiously ignoring, is demographics.
Now I don't care if that percentage is 3%, 5%, or 10%. The cold hard fact is that every year a segment of that population in Thailand ages out of that industry. And they are not being replaced. The segment that enters the market is, by definition, smaller in number than the one it's replacing.[/QUOTE]This point has been raised before & it was mentioned that the Thai birth rate has not been declining nearly so much in recent years & has remained rather constant of late. Where it will go in the future, whether higher or lower, is unknown.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1654225]So, you can whistle past the graveyard all you want. The fact is that, unless something happens to dramatically increase the birth rate, or Thailand goes into a major economic meltdown, it will not be a prime hobbying destination for decades to come.[/QUOTE]To be brief, due to time restraints, I'd simply say it is not nearly so simple. There are many factors at play, not just economic & demographic. (Of the two, though, the poverty of third world rice growing Siam is much more sure to continue in the decades to come, not the declining birth rate.).
There is, for example, the law of supply & demand, with ever increasing numbers of tourists to LOS, which provides work for many Thai sex trade workers who are well past their prime. So they do not leave the profession or have been able to remain in it much longer than in the past.
In the 90's many were removed from the trade due to HIV. With modern meds & a far lower HIV rate in 2014, the rate of TG sex workers quiting due to HIV is far less.
Other factors that can effect the numbers of PFP gals working in Siam & their ratio to customers is what happens in the political arena, natural disasters & the prosperity or decline of its tourism industry, etc.
Issues in these areas have been quite regular & generally lead to the Kingdom becoming even more of a "prime mongering destination" quality wise during the period of time when they occur.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1654225]The elephant in the room, that everybody is studiously ignoring, is demographics.
The indisputable fact is that Thailand's birth rate has been dropping radically for years. Depending on the source, it's now around somewhere between 10 and 12 per 1,000 population. That's down from around 16 a decade ago. That's at least a 30% drop. By contrast, the PI is double, somewhere around 24 per 1,000. That, too, has been declining, but only at less than 1% during the same decade.
Nonsensical statements, like cultural brainwashing, aside, I don't think there is a major culture in the world where prostitution is considered a viable career option. Women aren't wired that way. However, there will always be a percentage of a given population that will work in that trade. The percentage will go up during hard times, and go down during good times, but, overall, I think it remains reasonably constant.
Now I don't care if that percentage is 3%, 5%, or 10%. The cold hard fact is that every year a segment of that population in Thailand ages out of that industry. And they are not being replaced. The segment that enters the market is, by definition, smaller in number than the one it's replacing.
So, you can whistle past the graveyard all you want. The fact is that, unless something happens to dramatically increase the birth rate, or Thailand goes into a major economic meltdown, it will not be a prime hobbying destination for decades to come.[/QUOTE]Thanks for bringing some clarity to all this with actual facts. Something I have few of I admit! Have you read anything about why this is occurring? It is a general trend in most of the developed world but a 30% drop in a decade sounds extreme. Has the economic progress in the past decade changed that with women entering the work force in such greater numbers?
Now to get back to my factless based observations. I sometimes wonder how Thailand has any births with the number of gays, ladyboys, Toms and Dees that I see around Bangkok. I can't go into a retail store without being served by a gay man. I can't go into a fastfood restaurant without seeing a burgeoning ladyboy. Tom and Dees are everywhere and over the past couple of years I have been surprised to find out how many working girls have a Tom looking out for them and just like Thai men smacking them around and taking their money. Of course Bangkok is likely a magnet with people of those sexual predilections but I come from NYC and the numbers here amaze me. And their openness amazes me even more but good for them.
Great update.
Thanks.
I'm in LOS end of Jan / Feb and will be sure to check the activities at CH.
BTW. Did you witness any of those goings on with the "random inspections / shake downs" from the friendly constablishment?
[QUOTE=RangeLove;1654198]Back from 1 week in Bangkok. I RTFF before I go and retreived some valuable tips. So time to give something back.
Best tip I read here: Crazy House! OMG! Without any doubt the hottest place in BKK. Now I understand why it is not situated on Soi Cowboy itself but just around the corner. It makes Soi Cowboy looks like a joke!
The man from Iran has many young and beautiful coyotte girls standing in front of his bars: "Only looking, not touching. " Crazy House has the same quality level of girls, dancing full nude on stage, and ready to be bar fined.
I went almost every evening to CH, retreiving many girls back to my hotel. All girls I had were good, non of them were really bad performers.
First evening I saw in the back a quit shy girl. It turned out she was from Cambodia and only 4 days working in CH! Truly beginners luck. I had a great fuck with her despite she didn't want to give BBBJ.
All the other girls did. I can't remember all the names of the girls I had but number 3 and 20 I remember as very good sessions and BB all the way.
After a while I started to be friend with the manager (Linda) and the owner of the place. She noticed I was not in BKK on a budget and started to point out for me her best girls and introducing me to her new arrives.
At the other hand she always wanted tips and drinks what was quit annoying.
I don't know who does the recruitment but this person does a hell of a job. Linda introduced me to some very nice girls.
I remember some girls so tight I just blow up my condom every time!
My hotel was Legacy Suites. Another good tip from this forum. I had a big room with little salon to chat up with the girls before hitting the bedroom.
They also never checked ID's what was good because Linda sometimes warned me a girl had no ID with her.
Other places I visited only 1 time because they were no match for Crazy House.
NEP. I go inside Rainbow 4 but girls too old and chubby for my taste. Then to Mandarin. Met a nice girl named Boum. Not a super face but great body, no kids.
Toke her LT and she was hot. She wanted to go in bad first and mounted my dick after a while bb.
Mixx and Fashion bar. Very beautiful Russian girls there. Models I guess. Mixx was almost empty.
Climax. Very crowded. Full of FL's, many of them very drunk. I only see few beautiful girls. Most in their 30's and probably with kids.
Nataree. Wanted to try out a soapy for the first time.
I went inside Nataree, VIP, Colonize and Emanuelle.
Colonize and Nataree had the most beautiful girls.
I ended up in Nataree. Inside I saw a nice girl sitting alone on the couch.
I choose her and turned out to be the most expensive girl 5000 B.
I wasn't so crazy about this whole soapy idea. The water in the tube was rather cold and the A/C blew full power.
I had very cold and my little friend also. I asked to turn off the A/C and a BBBJ brought my friend back to life.
The girl only spoke Thai but she was sweet. Also very tight and I blew up the condom again. She cried when she realized I blew my load deep into her pussy.
A bad day at the office I suppose.
Soi 22 Pern Massage. Met up front nice girl, named So. She gave me a good massage and really excellent hand job!
Soi 23 Near the end on right hand side forget name shop but girl's name was them.
She gave me an excellent oily massage. I was her first customer that day and she was full of energy.
Also good FS with condom. Really nice girl.[/QUOTE]Great report and validation that this place is great. One good point about the Moma. I was talking to a hot 18 year old who agreed to go with me long term. After we agreed on the money she asked for a lady drink, which I had no problem with. After the drink she flipped me the bird and walked away. I motioned for the Moma to come over and I told her what hapenned. Within 5 minutes the girl was back and was ordered to pay for the lady drink. Then the Moma introduced me to a hot 23 year old who fucked my brains out, she even bought me a drink! Love this place!
[QUOTE=DRRonin;1654333]Thanks for bringing some clarity to all this with actual facts. Something I have few of I admit! Have you read anything about why this is occurring? It is a general trend in most of the developed world but a 30% drop in a decade sounds extreme. Has the economic progress in the past decade changed that with women entering the work force in such greater numbers?
Now to get back to my factless based observations. I sometimes wonder how Thailand has any births with the number of gays, ladyboys, Toms and Dees that I see around Bangkok. I can't go into a retail store without being served by a gay man. I can't go into a fastfood restaurant without seeing a burgeoning ladyboy. Tom and Dees are everywhere and over the past couple of years I have been surprised to find out how many working girls have a Tom looking out for them and just like Thai men smacking them around and taking their money. Of course Bangkok is likely a magnet with people of those sexual predilections but I come from NYC and the numbers here amaze me. And their openness amazes me even more but good for them.[/QUOTE]There is a great Ted talk on population and development- Hans Rosling: Religions and Babies. Check it out. Dude is a demographic specialist. Very interesting. Goes into development, population, and peak population.
Yes, it is amazing how many categories of "sexuality" there are in BKK. Toms, Dees, Bis, Gays, Ladyboys, etc. While yes it is very open in a way, it is also true that each category tends to have rigid rules of behavior that are quite strictly adhered to. I read an article once by a Western lesbian who was working in BKK. She had become quite frustrated at the fact that here she was supposed to be either a "Tom" or a "Dee. " Hence a woman who enjoys both giving and receiving is kind of out of luck.