Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1655286]I agree to an extent although with couple of caveats that may or may not be legitimate. Forgetting about the fact the baht is stronger against the dollar than it was when I first visited Thailand about twelve years ago, prices haven't gone up that much although long-time at go-gos has become disfavored among many girls and therefore the price for [I]that[/I] has increased more than for other options. The oil massage places most frequented by those on this forum charge exactly what they have for about a decade, with the exception of Bamboo's 500 baht anal surcharge and extra 100 baht for a session. Barons, then Tulip, and then Snow White, Mango, and Cherry have remained the same price for ages. And for those establishments as well as the go-go's I wonder whether the mantra the girls don't look as good as they used to reflects more that many of us have become rather jaded by now. I look at the pictures of the girls I took at the oilies 10 years ago, and then compare them to those today, and frankly don't see much, if any, quality difference. Similarly, although I find the majority of the go-go girls unattractive now, I always have although might have been satisfied to pull a girl who was not so attractive when the Bangkok scene was new to me (and my testosterone level a bit higher) while I am less inclined to do so now.

As to prices, ten years ago short-time at a go-go was 1500 baht, now it is 2000 (although I am hearing some are now getting 2500). The increase is probably less than the overall inflation rate over that period of time. Prices at the soapies have increased, but places like Nataree haven't increased [I]that[/I] much over the last decade, again forgetting about the value of the baht.

Yes, eventually things may deteriorate in the P4P scene more significantly as the economic situation continues to improve (assuming it does; let's see what kind of turmoil breaks out when the King dies, e. g. , and whether that will be the straw that breaks the Thai economy's back), but so far it hasn't been too bad IMHO, certainly not like Brazil which has gotten out of reach for many mongers both in terms of the P4P pricing and overall costs of a vacation (hotel, food, etc.).

For me what makes the P4 P scene seem a bit expensive in Bangkok is not so much any increases in pricing, rather it is I spend a lot of time in Jakarta where there still are bargains to be found. But as time goes on, the Jakarta scene may also start feeling the effects of economic progress (or more depressingly, the effects of what seems like an increased level of Muslim fundamentalism in Indonesia).[/QUOTE]Could we bump this discussion to the general thread please? As far as I know the Bangkok thread is for posting mongering reports in Bangkok, and the general thread is for discussions like what you guys are talking about here. I would like to recommend to all mongers to start and use services like We Chat, Skout, Tango, and Badoo. Thai girls are moving away from surfing the net on a computer or notebooks. The mobile internet is where it's at here. These services have location based searches and many of the girls are looking for pay for play but you can even find freebies. Search and chat, you have nothing to lose. Recently you can read about my report of finding extremely good ladies working in the massage parlours on we chat. Shop before you go in. Saves you walking to all the shops and striking deals for services. If you can do it beforehand it will save you aggravation in the shop. Freebies are well worth the time of searching. One of these cuties I spent 7 days with fucking and sucking. I suggest ditch the Thai friendlies, Date in Asia's, Thai Cupids, and son on. These are all just a waste of time. The naked girl in the picture is a 23 year old student. She agreed to come to my condo dressed in her students uniform. The real sexy one with the short black skirt and the tight white collar shirt. We had a 2 hour session and she asked for only taxi and 1000 THB. I gave her 2000, it was well worth it. So a mix of freebies and pay for play. Who needs the dating sites now! If you look in the photo gallery you will see two young and beautiful and sexy girls who all came from these mobile app based services. Happy mongering guys and feel free to PM over the weekend. I'm on a four day holiday of getting into trouble and I will be moving to Pattaya for the weekend if anyone wants to meet up. We chat will be my best friend this weekend and it already was today.

[QUOTE=DRRonin;1655278]As prices continue to increase mongers will slowly fade away when their cost threshold is reached. We all have one. That will change the scene even more and will continue to effect the number of girls in the business.
I don't think the Chinese will ever come here in masses for mongering. [/QUOTE]The laws of economics dictate that at some point higher prices will affect demand, but of all the labor markets in the world, P4 P is the most ineleastic because it offers few substitutes and men NEED to get laid. Thus, "if the labor demand curve is very inelastic (steep), an increase in wages (prices) will have a very small negative effect on the quantity of labor employed (demand for girls) and will have a very large positive effect on total labour income. The elasticity of the labor demand curve depends on the size of the substitution and scale effects. ".

In other words, where you going to go? Prices for play are going up in every Asian and South American watering hole. Thailand is not unique in this. I believe the price increase is mainly due to increased demand and because the suppliers understand they can get away with it. The supply of girls is also a factor in Thailand for sure, but I don't think it is the dominant one. Prices are on the rise in AC, Philippines and Jakarta, Indonesia too for example. The question is: how high can prices go before it has a dramatic impact on demand? And the answer is I do not know. So far demand for girls in Thailand AND the Philippines has continued to increase despite the increases in prices and in the case of the PI the continued increase in supply of girls into the P4 P labor market. This is a clear sign of inelastic demand. Do you want to see the future? Take a look at Macau. Sauna prices are sky high. A session with a model category Chinese girl at Rio costs just under $300 US and yet there are still plenty of mostly Northern Asian customers. I firmly believe only a world wide depression will change the dynamics at play here and around the world. Price is going up everywhere. Save your money and pay up or marry a local beeitch in your home country and be unhappy.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1655260]The difference between China, Korea, PI & LOS is in the first three prostitution is illegal while in LOS it is legal. ...........[/QUOTE]Prostitution is not legal in LOS. It's just that the laws are not enforced.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1655330]The laws of economics dictate that at some point higher prices will affect demand, but of all the labor markets in the world, P4P is the most ineleastic because it offers few substitutes and men NEED to get laid. [/QUOTE]

Demand for P4P is not as inelastic as you think. It's not healthcare, where you have to pay what is charged or die. Men may well have a strong urge to get laid, but triple the prices, and there will be much fewer tourists going to Pattaya twice a year getting laid 3 times per day, or sexpats geting laid twice a week. Instead, they'll sharply reduce consumption, as they do in western countries.

Prices are only one factor making Thailand a favored P4P destination. Other factors are wide availability, the fun scene, good service and the unique open-ended GFE arrangements. All are going down the drain, and might be mostly gone within a few years. There are places where P4P is cheaper than Thailand, but few people travel there for sex.

Guys, with all due respect. If one opens the photo thread and does not see photos, what's the point? If one opens the Bangkok reports thread and reads debates about population ratio and not mongering in BKK, what's the point? Bump this topic please and thanks. Anyways, after my adventure today at Boss massage I walked by the shop beside Boss amd wow! Many younger girls 23-25 were all dressed in the sexy Thai school girl uniforms. Next on my list when I return on Monday for sure! I think I will pass by Climax tonight amd grab a BKK FL before my Pattaya trip. Love this place. Always a great selection of hotties amd the staff are great. Would recommend it to all who want to pick up FL pay for play. Last time I was there I found such an adorable cute pie, 24 years old. Took her back to my place and she was trying to blow me in the taxi. It took all my strength to hold her off until I reached my place. Ok reports will come on Monday and I hope to have some new photos as well.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1655358]Guys, with all due respect. If one opens the photo thread and does not see photos, what's the point? If one opens the Bangkok reports thread and reads debates about population ratio and not mongering in BKK, what's the point? Bump this topic please and thanks. Anyways, after my adventure today at Boss massage I walked by the shop beside Boss amd wow! Many younger girls 23-25 were all dressed in the sexy Thai school girl uniforms. Next on my list when I return on Monday for sure! I think I will pass by Climax tonight amd grab a BKK FL before my Pattaya trip. Love this place. Always a great selection of hotties amd the staff are great. Would recommend it to all who want to pick up FL pay for play. Last time I was there I found such an adorable cute pie, 24 years old. Took her back to my place and she was trying to blow me in the taxi. It took all my strength to hold her off until I reached my place. Ok reports will come on Monday and I hope to have some new photos as well.[/QUOTE]If you head to Climax, please give an update on the rates. Last I went in there, all of the three stunners I could spot barked out outrageous sums. ST at 3000 and LT at 5000! I decided not to take anyone instead took a SW. I do hope some kind of pricing logic returns to Climax, if at all there was any.

[QUOTE=Duniawala;1655335]Prostitution is not legal in LOS. It's just that the laws are not enforced.[/QUOTE]This has been discussed at length before if you care to search the forum, complete with quotes, references & links to the penal code itself. There's also this more recent post by a lawyer:

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1639044]OMB! How many times does it have to be repeated? Prostitution is NOT illegal in Thailand. Certain elements that go together with some forms of prostitution (but not prostitution itself) are punishable (many have only very low fines), such as soliciting on the street, creating a nuisance, pimping, under-age sex, . . .

And the "buyer" side of the business is totally legal, as young as you respect the age limits.[/QUOTE]Or you could simply refer to Wikipedia which formerly said it was illegal in its opening statement, but no more:

"Prostitution is not strictly illegal in Thailand, though solicitation and public nuisance laws are in effect".

[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Thailand[/URL]

Not illegal. End of story.

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The generally acceptable and reasonable rates are 2,500 B (ST) and 4,000 B (LT).

If you need something special, buy a drink for the waiter. He will point you in the right direction.

I was in BKK two weeks ago and stayed there for one week. Went to Climax 3 times and the waiter would take me around, would introduce me to about 5/6 girls, and then I will come back. Three months ago, I met a 24 YO Colombian girl in Cancun. She was great to be with! When she found out that I was going to BKK, she showed very high interest. I got an airline ticket for her. She enjoys watching her partner having sex a girl and I enjoyed watching her with another girl. After the waiter would show me the girls, I would come back, take her around and show her the girls. I preferred young girls with cute faces, but she preferred ones with curvy body. We would pick the mutually agreed girl, drink a lot, dance a lot, and the money part never came up. Twice, we picked one girl and once, we picked two girls. Two stayed ST and two stayed LT. I gave each one the amount as I stated above. None ever counted the money!

Two things I want to mention that I do not think, on this board, I ever came across!

1. TOO MUCH SEX CAN CAUSE UTI: Just an hour before leaving, I felt lots of pain in my testicles and bladder. Went to Pharmacist, told her everything, and she gave me Cipro. Along with some pain killer. Back home, I went for tests, and it came out UTI. This E Coli bacteria is not only resistant to Cipro but also to several other antibiotics. I am 56 YO!

2. On all of my trips, I always keep my webcam on. Using Picasa3. I place a black electrical tape on the light and no one can notice the webcam on. 24 hour video takes only 4-6 GB space. Any laptop contains that much space to manage one week worth of trip video. In case of any mishap, I can go back and check the video. Luckily, no mishap happened ever. On the other hand, I always came home with a nice sex video.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1655260]The difference between China, Korea, PI & LOS is in the first three prostitution is illegal while in LOS it is legal. Earlier this month in Canada, BTW, it became illegal to buy sex. Before that it was legal. So expect even more Canadians to travel abroad for their fun.

Unlike expensive first world South Korea, LOS is a very poor country & third world. Like Japan the sex industry there is rather closed to foreigners. So for a number of reasons South Korea is not appealing to the multitudes of hobbyists looking for value & bang for their buck. But Thailand is, has been for a very long time & should continue to be.

According to the following opinion South Korea has the second most PFP gals per capita than anywhere in the world.

[URL]http://globaldiscussion.net/topic/1442-countries-with-the-most-prostitutes/[/URL][/QUOTE]Korea's P4 P was very open to foreigners before the olympics. It was the foreign scene they cracked down upon, not the local scene. If a widespread crackdown occurs here, I suspect it will be the same. Korea was a developing country at one point as well.

[QUOTE=Duniawala;1655335]Prostitution is not legal in LOS. It's just that the laws are not enforced.[/QUOTE]It actually is legal, but all forms of solicitation are not. And the definition of solicitation can be interpreted in different ways depending on what suits the boys in brown that day.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1655249]From 2006 to 2013 the top 6 Western countries all increased their numbers. Australia & France roughly doubled their arrivals to LOS.

[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Thailand[/URL][/QUOTE]Dude, most of those are folks seeking a cheap beach holiday, not mongers. Have you seen all the fat Western women here these days?

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1655308]Could we bump this discussion to the general thread please? As far as I know the Bangkok thread is for posting mongering reports in Bangkok, and the general thread is for discussions like what you guys are talking about here. I would like to recommend to all mongers to start and use services like We Chat, Skout, Tango, and Badoo. Thai girls are moving away from surfing the net on a computer or notebooks. The mobile internet is where it's at here. These services have location based searches and many of the girls are looking for pay for play but you can even find freebies. Search and chat, you have nothing to lose. Recently you can read about my report of finding extremely good ladies working in the massage parlours on we chat. Shop before you go in. Saves you walking to all the shops and striking deals for services. If you can do it beforehand it will save you aggravation in the shop. Freebies are well worth the time of searching. One of these cuties I spent 7 days with fucking and sucking. I suggest ditch the Thai friendlies, Date in Asia's, Thai Cupids, and son on. These are all just a waste of time. The naked girl in the picture is a 23 year old student. She agreed to come to my condo dressed in her students uniform. The real sexy one with the short black skirt and the tight white collar shirt. We had a 2 hour session and she asked for only taxi and 1000 THB. I gave her 2000, it was well worth it. So a mix of freebies and pay for play. Who needs the dating sites now! If you look in the photo gallery you will see two young and beautiful and sexy girls who all came from these mobile app based services. Happy mongering guys and feel free to PM over the weekend. I'm on a four day holiday of getting into trouble and I will be moving to Pattaya for the weekend if anyone wants to meet up. We chat will be my best friend this weekend and it already was today.[/QUOTE]Sounds good, but also sounds like a lot of effort!

The generally acceptable and reasonable rates are 2,500 B (ST) and 4,000 B (LT).

If you need something special, buy a drink for the waiter. He will point you in the right direction.

I was in BKK two weeks ago and stayed there for one week. Went to Climax 3 times and the waiter would take me around, would introduce me to about 5/6 girls, and then I will come back. Three months ago, I met a 24 YO Colombian girl in Cancun. She was great to be with! When she found out that I was going to BKK, she showed very high interest. I got an airline ticket for her. She enjoys watching her partner having sex a girl and I enjoyed watching her with another girl. After the waiter would show me the girls, I would come back, take her around and show her the girls. I preferred young girls with cute faces, but she preferred ones with curvy body. We would pick the mutually agreed girl, drink a lot, dance a lot, and the money part never came up. Twice, we picked one girl and once, we picked two girls. Two stayed ST and two stayed LT. I gave each one the amount as I stated above. None ever counted the money!

Two things I want to mention that I do not think, on this board, I ever came across!

1. TOO MUCH SEX CAN CAUSE UTI: Just an hour before leaving, I felt lots of pain in my testicles and bladder. Went to Pharmacist, told her everything, and she gave me Cipro. Along with some pain killer. Back home, I went for tests, and it came out UTI. This E Coli bacteria is not only resistant to Cipro but also to several other antibiotics. I am 56 YO!

2. On all of my trips, I always keep my webcam on. Using Picasa3. I place a black electrical tape on the light and no one can notice the webcam on. 24 hour video takes only 4-6 GB space. Any laptop contains that much space to manage one week worth of trip video. In case of any mishap, I can go back and check the video. Luckily, no mishap happened ever. On the other hand, I always came home with a nice sex video.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1655308]Could we bump this discussion to the general thread please? As far as I know the Bangkok thread is for posting mongering reports in Bangkok, and the general thread is for discussions like what you guys are talking about here. I would like to recommend to all mongers to start and use services like We Chat, Skout, Tango, and Badoo. Thai girls are moving away from surfing the net on a computer or notebooks. The mobile internet is where it's at here. These services have location based searches and many of the girls are looking for pay for play but you can even find freebies. Search and chat, you have nothing to lose. Recently you can read about my report of finding extremely good ladies working in the massage parlours on we chat. Shop before you go in. Saves you walking to all the shops and striking deals for services. If you can do it beforehand it will save you aggravation in the shop. Freebies are well worth the time of searching. One of these cuties I spent 7 days with fucking and sucking. I suggest ditch the Thai friendlies, Date in Asia's, Thai Cupids, and son on. These are all just a waste of time. The naked girl in the picture is a 23 year old student. She agreed to come to my condo dressed in her students uniform. The real sexy one with the short black skirt and the tight white collar shirt. We had a 2 hour session and she asked for only taxi and 1000 THB. I gave her 2000, it was well worth it. So a mix of freebies and pay for play. Who needs the dating sites now! If you look in the photo gallery you will see two young and beautiful and sexy girls who all came from these mobile app based services. Happy mongering guys and feel free to PM over the weekend. I'm on a four day holiday of getting into trouble and I will be moving to Pattaya for the weekend if anyone wants to meet up. We chat will be my best friend this weekend and it already was today.[/QUOTE]Yes it is just terrible that I had the audacity to post a report about the pricing of the oilies in Bangkok, the soapies in Bangkok, and the go-gos in Bangkok as well as the quality of the girls in Bangkok in the Bangkok thread. I should have known the Bangkok thread is for posts about We Chat, Skout, Tango, and Badoo. My bad.