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Should we assume the English are overly demanding and not preferred at all as they are not listed? Not to criticize the report but these girls have great linguistic.
Skills as they can determine between Dutch and German as well as Czechs and Slovaks, Americans and Canadians, (except for the A 's) as well as some other.
Closely related by language countries. Not knocking you, just asking a question.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1655864]I would bet you that far more and American mongers stay in the Western Hemisphere as opposed to coming over here. [/QUOTE]I'd bet more Americans go to Asia and Thailand for PFP than Nevada or Cuba or DR or CR.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1655864]And hey, Spanish is far easier to learn than Thai.[/QUOTE]So I can labour to learn Spanish to have a greater chance of being a victim of crime.
Or I can keep spending half my time in LOS as I have done for years & know about 3 words of Thai.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1655864]Canada? South America is far closer to most US states than Asia and there is no jet lag.[/QUOTE]The subject was Canada. From its North Pole to the freezing tip of South America is, I guess, further & more expensive than to go than from Vancouver to LOS. I never experienced jet lag on such a trip.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1655864]I like Latin girls but do prefer Asian. However that is not the case with everyone.[/QUOTE]To each their own. Apparently Brazil is more expensive than LOS, besides its other deficiences.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1655944]WTF? Australia is a totally crap country for mongering, and if you did, you would want to take a Thai or Korean girl anyway.[/QUOTE]Koreans would be a big incentive to go to Australia. Like having a Japanese who I consider the hottest anywhere. I've had them in Canada when PFP was legal as they used to be quite abundant there. You won't be getting any in LOS.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1656118]I've never been anywhere on the Aussie continent. What makes it "crap"?
[/QUOTE]Look its the wrong thread for Aussie mongering. I haven't done it for a long time. Just believe me that Aussie girls give bad service (more than 90% They are very procedural. Little chance of a GFE, except maybe some foreigners. Also it was far more expensive than Thailand. Total waste of money to be with an "Aussie" girl. I really can remember only a very few good ones from say 35 years ago. The Thai girls were far more reliable. The majority of Aussie hookers are not that great looking especially when get the clothes off.
Its not really about getting your dick legally into some pussy. I accept that its possible USA and Canada could be worse, never having had a monger fuck there, but at least they have some hot black girls.
[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1656125]
2. French (83%.
[/QUOTE]I am a bit sceptical too, and don't see how we can learn anything useful from the list.
Most Thai girls, whether Sex workers or not, seem to have a negative view about French guys in general as being firstly stingy (very tight with money), and secondly possibly appearing a little arrogant. Could they be ranked high purely as good lovers, or good looking, or quick and clean?
Germans are also considered to be a bit stingy, and a bit "black hearted" but girls comment that the German football team players are very good looking. English are considered the most foul mouthed speakers and impolite. So does not surprise me if they are very low ranked. Americans are way more polite, in general.
A LB told me that a very high percentage of Italians like LBs. I don't know if its really true. Passing the LB bar in cowboy, it seems like most customers are Asians, but have seen Farangs as well.
Sorry if anyone gets offended by these gross generalisations. It could be all bullshit that I hear from girls. I find that most girls take me as I am and don't care where I come from. I may not be very typical. I think my countrymen once had a reputation as being cheats that would try to leave the Hotel by the backdoor without paying the bill, also as being very sloppy dressers, and smelling of beer.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1656134]I've had hot girls in SG for as little as 20 USD, including room. Usually I paid no more than 50 USD all in for FS, etc. Some of them were total knockouts.
Quite a few in Geylang were up for BBBJ, DFK, even BB sex.
[/QUOTE]My experience many years ago in Geylang, was that they only wanted to give 15 or 20 min sessions to Asians, and for Farangs gave slightly more time, maybe 30 minutes, but at a higher price. Generally were Thai girls. Certainly taking a girl for 2 hours would have been several consecutive sessions and would not have worked out cheap.
Thailand was definitely much better value for longer time period sessions. Singapore was competitive only for a "quickie" which is not my style.
Hot Lips bar in Nana is now called Candyland 2. It seems to be doing much better than Candyland 1 which has poor interior decoration and colouring, weak girls selection and few customers even on a Saturday.
Crazy House line up was rather ordinary to my fussy taste Saturday night. Was better on Friday night. Overall I believe that Crazy House is declining for line up quality of looks over time. Some of prettiest girls disappeared or work irregularly. The new ones can be quite ordinary. However doing good business so maybe my taste is wrong. Not a high enough percentage of the girls are nude any more.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1655308] I would like to recommend to all mongers to start and use services like We Chat, Skout, Tango, and Badoo. Thai girls are moving away from surfing the net on a computer or notebooks. The mobile internet is where it's at here. These services have location based searches and many of the girls are looking for pay for play but you can even find freebies. Search and chat, you have nothing to lose. Recently you can read about my report of finding extremely good ladies working in the massage parlours on we chat. Shop before you go in. Saves you walking to all the shops and striking deals for services. If you can do it beforehand it will save you aggravation in the shop. Freebies are well worth the time of searching. One of these cuties I spent 7 days with fucking and sucking. I suggest ditch the Thai friendlies, Date in Asia's, Thai Cupids, and son on. These are all just a waste of time. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1656064] As Bkkdog already pointed out the mobile internet is the place to be these days, more and more. The world has changed and will always change and we have to keep up with that. Although I know how hard that can be for us older gents.
I am quite 'internet savvy' but not really 'mobile internet savvy'. Yesterday I bought my first smart phone, go figure LOL! It will take some time but I'm getting there.[/QUOTE]Very interesting indeed. This might help to explain the dwindling numbers of decent FL's on the streets these days. Maybe they're all doing business on their smart phones now. I'm quite Internet savvy too as I use my PC a lot, but until now I couldn't think of a good reason to buy a smart phone, except perhaps to keep track of the US stock market while I'm out and about. The idea of using one to find pussy never occurred to me.
I totally agree that using sites like ThaiLoveLinks is a waste of time. I wonder if older guys like me can have success using a smart phone to find fuck buddies and P4 P sessions like BKKdog is doing it? If so, I'm going to run down to [URL]Tuk.Com[/URL] and buy one. I'd like to know more about the ins and outs of the services BKKdog talks about for finding pussy. Do keep us informed of your progress, Mogwai as we all have something new to learn.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1656116]Huh? Thailand is the land of compartmentalization. Something that we in the West really don't get. Don't ask don't tell as long as it does not effect the relationship.[/QUOTE]You are far too modest, Goat. You've beaten the game and deserve great admiration and congratulations from all dedicated pussy mongers. I trust that you realize the rarity of your situation and just how lucky you are. Most women on this planet will not be content to let their boy friends have their cake and eat it too.
As for me, I don't think I could manage it even if it fell into my lap. I enjoy my solitude way to much and just don't have time for any relationship with a woman that lasts for more than 1 hour at a time. I have a number of great regulars for that purpose and it suits me fine. They come over, we have our "fun," I pay them, and they leave. Don't need more company than that.
[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1656125]Found this two year old article from [URL]teakdoor.com[/URL] No mention of Asians. Maybe the prof was only interested in farangs.
Thai professor of sociology Sathit Niyomyat, a former assistant dean at the prestigious Thammasat University and the author of numerous studies on gender issues, has published some surprising results following a three-year research project during which she interviewed some 470 local women working in the sex industry.
In an anonymous survey, Thai prostitutes were asked to rank their preferred nationality among foreign clients more than 6,000 of them in total based on a variety of criteria. "We were interested in how demanding they were, the length of sexual activity, consumption of alcohol, behavior and degree of coarseness, and the solvency of sex tourists, based on nationality," Prof. Niyomyat said, as quoted by the Czech tabloid Blesk..[/QUOTE]I call bollocks. Do the girl compartmentalize guys into such specific categories. Its Farang or Asian or Blacks.
Who knows. I'm not a Thai prostitute.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1656305] I wonder if older guys like me can have success using a smart phone to find fuck buddies and P4 P sessions like BKKdog is doing it? If so, I'm going to run down to [URL]Tuk.Com[/URL] and buy one. I'd like to know more about the ins and outs of the services BKKdog talks about for finding pussy. Do keep us informed of your progress, Mogwai as we all have something new to learn.[/QUOTE]I'm not a very regular FR poster, as writing a decent FR takes quite some time, but I will do my best.
Meanwhile I advise you to read the thread 'Chat Rooms and Pen Pals' in the Philippines section. You can learn quite a bit there!
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2479-Chat-Rooms-amp-Pen-Pals[/URL]
Yesterday I joined 'Line' ([URL]http://line.me/en/[/URL]), one of many chat & message applications out there. Some time ago I barfined a gorgeous agogo girl and I took some pictures of her. I wanted to send her these pictures so I texted her and asked for her email address. She replied that she hasn't got one (which I doubt, I suppose she just doesn't want to give it to me) and that I could send the pics to her Line ID. I thought 'what the heck is Line?' LOL. Never heard of it, so I googled it.
Registration was a pain in the ass because they send a verification code to your phone that you have to enter in the sign up procedure within 30 minutes. However due to a slow network or slow internet provider I received the registration code way too late and had to start all over again a couple of times. I even had to fill in a complaint form and send it to their customer service. But it helped apparently because all of a sudden the application worked.
I had already (manually) copied a dozen or so contacts from my old phone to my new smart phone. About 4 of those contacts were Thai 'girl friends' and I soon found out that they were also Line members. The application automatically matches the contact numbers in your phone with the members and they are then automatically added to your Friends List. With some undesirable results by the way. For example: some Thai mobile numbers start with 06. I am from Holland and in my country almost all mobile numbers start with 06. So you can guess what happened. One of my Dutch contact numbers matched with a Thai number so a total stranger was added to my Friends list, LOL!
But you can turn off this automatic number matching in the settings menu. And I guess if I include the country codes in my contacts' numbers the problem is also solved.
It took me some time to figure out how I could send the photos but I finally got it. I just had to start a chat session with my lovely 'girl friend' and then I could send her the photos (although I found out later that's only one of the possibilities). But before that I accidentally clicked on 'video call'. I quickly canceled it but 30 seconds later she 'video called' me back. It was about 4 PM which I presume is a good time to contact agogo or bar girls. Her English is still very limited so we only had a short 'video conference' but it was fun. Had to promise her to come to her agogo of course. Aaah, those damn promises! Nevertheless I want to have her again, but she's bloody expensive (but also worth it and I can't say that very often of an agogo girl).
One of my other 'girl friends' also started a chat pretty soon after I had signed up. She was 'angry' that I hadn't informed her yet that I was back in town, LOL. Sorry hun, I just arrived yesterday (actually 3 days ago but that's on a need to know basis, LOL!).
Today I will enter all of my Asian contacts in my new phone and I'm curious how many of them are Line members.
By the way, with Line you cannot search for new 'girl friends'. You'll need apps like Tango for that, I want to join that one too.
And when I was in Vietnam recently I tried the PC version of Tango (as I didn't have a smart phone yet) but with the PC version you cannot search for people nearby unfortunately.
But I found out that with the PC version of Tagged you can do that so I signed up and I had some modest success.
I had a few dates with a 27 yo girl in Nha Trang. She was not P4 P but slowly, surely and with a lot of patience I got her into my bed. Her face was only a 6,5 but her body was an 8 and she was horny as hell. It truly amazes me that a man in his early fifties like me can make young girls so damn horny, even if they are only 18 or 19. Although I admit I do not make ALL of them horny.
Unfortunately this girl in Nha Trang was on the rag so she didn't want to boom boom. And she didn't want to give me a BJ either because 'only sluts do that'. Damn 'good girls', LOL!
Later I came into contact with a 39 yo MILF in Saigon who was still good looking for her age. We had lunch and we spent an afternoon exploring Saigon a little bit on her bike. I thought she was not P4 P because she said she was looking for a serious relationship. I told her I was only looking for a casual contact with NSA but despite that she still wanted to meet me. OK I thought, fine with me, I will see what this leads to.
During our meeting she didn't give any signals that she was P4 P. At least that's what I thought. But looking back on it there were some subtle signals.
At the end of the afternoon she had to go back home so we said goodbye and I thought I would not see her again. But in the evening she surprised me with a text message that said something like: 'It was nice meeting you. Is there anything else I can do for you?
I replied: 'What would you like to do for me?
'Anything you want' she said. OK, that was clear.
So I invited her to come to my hotel. She said she would do that but first she had to bring a neighbour to the pagoda. In the end she never showed up and didn't respond to my texts and calls anymore. The following morning I got an excuse from her that she had been very busy and was too tired to meet me. That was a pity because I was heading for Thailand that same morning.
So here you are, a report of my first 'unstable' steps in the world of mobile internet.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1656236]Look its the wrong thread for Aussie mongering. I haven't done it for a long time. Just believe me that Aussie girls give bad service (more than 90% They are very procedural. Little chance of a GFE, except maybe some foreigners. Also it was far more expensive than Thailand. Total waste of money to be with an "Aussie" girl. I really can remember only a very few good ones from say 35 years ago. The Thai girls were far more reliable. The majority of Aussie hookers are not that great looking especially when get the clothes off.[/QUOTE]Thirty five years ago, LOL. Do you think that info might be a bit out of date.
PRC, VN, Netherlands, Germans, etc, even TGs have all been called "mechanical". Mechanical is quite common with hookers all over the globe. I don't necessarily find it a problem. Though if chemistry is created, that can change things.
As for GFE, none of these clock watching are your GF, your dreaming if you think they are, & if they were mine they certainly wouldn't be using a condom. It seems PI hookers are the best at pretending or behaving like a GF would, according to many reports, so that is the nationality to bed if that is so important to you. You won't find them in LOS. Better to stay away from the third world corrupt PI itself, though, IMO, & pick them up elsewhere, such as SG, HKG, Germany, etc. Like TGs they are all over the world & often work as maids. Saw one at my VCR hotel the other day.
Last trip to BKK had this girl who would hardly make eye contact. In the car park I got her agreement to DFK. In the room, though, she was HJ me & licking nipples a bit. I was discussing BB sex with her, but she wasn't giving it up. After I said something about her being scared of baby farang, she smiled & started one of the best kissing sessions I've ever had, like I would want with a real GF. Was that a mechanical or GFE session?
In SG I had a PRC who was DFKing, BBing, saying "I love you" repeatedly. Was that a GFE? I found her words were a distraction from my enjoyment of sex.
In BKK I've often had girls who I told them what I wanted them to do. For example sometimes I was in the mood for a long BBBJ, so I'd have them suck me for an hour or two. Was that a GFE or mechanical? It doesn't matter what you call it, since it was what I wanted & made me happy.
Sometimes I just wanted them to lay there quietly while I fucked them for an hour or two.
Of course first world Australia or Canada or SG is going to generally be more expensive than third world corrupt LOS or PI or Indonesia. That is the price you pay for being in a quality country. If you are only partaking once a month, who cares if its 20 or 200 USD. Moreover if you do your homework, you can get laid for as little as $20 in SG & $5 in Canada, & I'm sure the same could be found in the cute Kuala bear kingdom.
As for Aussie ladies mostly not looking great naked, I would say ditto for Thai PFP gals, naked or not. Or prostitutes in any of some 200 nations. Aussies would mostly be of a European appearance, if that's your thing. For me, the Koreans in Aussie land, which you won't get in BKK, would be the greater attraction.
Another legal first world safe English speaking destination I've looked at briefly is New Zealand, home of the kiwi fruit.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1656249]My experience many years ago in Geylang, was that they only wanted to give 15 or 20 min sessions to Asians, and for Farangs gave slightly more time, maybe 30 minutes, but at a higher price. Generally were Thai girls. Certainly taking a girl for 2 hours would have been several consecutive sessions and would not have worked out cheap.
Thailand was definitely much better value for longer time period sessions. Singapore was competitive only for a "quickie" which is not my style.[/QUOTE]The 15 to 30 minutes is still generally true of SG street girls, who are mostly PRC & VN, with some Indos, Thai & South Asians. If that's all a guy needs to pop, it does the trick for as little as 600 or 700 baht. In the houses you can get longer sessions, such as 45 to 60 minutes for 150 SG dollars, similar to gogo rates in BKK. I've had SG gals to my room in SG for 2 hours & paid about the same as for TGs in BKK for comparable services & looks. Some even slept over for free.
SG also has other PFP areas besides Geylang, such as Orchard Towers, also called the Four Floors of Who*res. A ST there has been quoted as low as 100 SG currency. Girls at such places include PI, Russian, etc.
So the same value as BKK can be obtained in SG, though you may have to search more to find it. Thus advantage to those who live there, are staying for a long visit or have done their homework on ISG.
Went last night to Patpong.
I finally visited Patpong last night as planned. Had a great time. I don't know why fellow mongers waste their time at Nana or cowboy as its to commercial for me. Patpong has a lot of mystery. I picked up a FL for 2000 BT last night at Twilo, the corner bar with live music. She stayed till 3 pm today. We left at 230 am once they closed. The Night market wraps up at midnight now. I remember it to be later. I also went to Kings Castle for a few beers. I tried picking up the manger Jean. She said she was to old but I didn't my as she still look good.
Star of light was closed. I wonder why. Anyway I recommend the corners bars that play live music for some FL action.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1656354]I'm not a very regular FR poster, as writing a decent FR takes quite some time, but I will do my best.
Meanwhile I advise you to read the thread 'Chat Rooms and Pen Pals' in the Philippines section. You can learn quite a bit there!
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2479-Chat-Rooms-amp-Pen-Pals[/URL]
Yesterday I joined 'Line' ([URL]http://line.me/en/[/URL]), one of many chat & message applications out there. Some time ago I barfined a gorgeous agogo girl and I took some pictures of her. I wanted to send her these pictures so I texted her and asked for her email address. She replied that she hasn't got one (which I doubt, I suppose she just doesn't want to give it to me) and that I could send the pics to her Line ID. I thought 'what the heck is Line?' LOL. Never heard of it, so I googled it.
Registration was a pain in the ass because they send a verification code to your phone that you have to enter in the sign up procedure within 30 minutes. However due to a slow network or slow internet provider I received the registration code way too late and had to start all over again a couple of times. I even had to fill in a complaint form and send it to their customer service. But it helped apparently because all of a sudden the application worked.
I had already (manually) copied a dozen or so contacts from my old phone to my new smart phone. About 4 of those contacts were Thai 'girl friends' and I soon found out that they were also Line members. The application automatically matches the contact numbers in your phone with the members and they are then automatically added to your Friends List. With some undesirable results by the way. For example: some Thai mobile numbers start with 06. I am from Holland and in my country almost all mobile numbers start with 06. So you can guess what happened. One of my Dutch contact numbers matched with a Thai number so a total stranger was added to my Friends list, LOL!
But you can turn off this automatic number matching in the settings menu. And I guess if I include the country codes in my contacts' numbers the problem is also solved.
It took me some time to figure out how I could send the photos but I finally got it. I just had to start a chat session with my lovely 'girl friend' and then I could send her the photos (although I found out later that's only one of the possibilities). But before that I accidentally clicked on 'video call'. I quickly canceled it but 30 seconds later she 'video called' me back. It was about 4 PM which I presume is a good time to contact agogo or bar girls. Her English is still very limited so we only had a short 'video conference' but it was fun. Had to promise her to come to her agogo of course. Aaah, those damn promises! Nevertheless I want to have her again, but she's bloody expensive (but also worth it and I can't say that very often of an agogo girl).
One of my other 'girl friends' also started a chat pretty soon after I had signed up. She was 'angry' that I hadn't informed her yet that I was back in town, LOL. Sorry hun, I just arrived yesterday (actually 3 days ago but that's on a need to know basis, LOL!).
Today I will enter all of my Asian contacts in my new phone and I'm curious how many of them are Line members.
By the way, with Line you cannot search for new 'girl friends'. You'll need apps like Tango for that, I want to join that one too.
And when I was in Vietnam recently I tried the PC version of Tango (as I didn't have a smart phone yet) but with the PC version you cannot search for people nearby unfortunately.
But I found out that with the PC version of Tagged you can do that so I signed up and I had some modest success.
I had a few dates with a 27 yo girl in Nha Trang. She was not P4 P but slowly, surely and with a lot of patience I got her into my bed. Her face was only a 6,5 but her body was an 8 and she was horny as hell. It truly amazes me that a man in his early fifties like me can make young girls so damn horny, even if they are only 18 or 19. Although I admit I do not make ALL of them horny.
Unfortunately this girl in Nha Trang was on the rag so she didn't want to boom boom. And she didn't want to give me a BJ either because 'only sluts do that'. Damn 'good girls', LOL!
Later I came into contact with a 39 yo MILF in Saigon who was still good looking for her age. We had lunch and we spent an afternoon exploring Saigon a little bit on her bike. I thought she was not P4 P because she said she was looking for a serious relationship. I told her I was only looking for a casual contact with NSA but despite that she still wanted to meet me. OK I thought, fine with me, I will see what this leads to.
During our meeting she didn't give any signals that she was P4 P. At least that's what I thought. But looking back on it there were some subtle signals.
At the end of the afternoon she had to go back home so we said goodbye and I thought I would not see her again. But in the evening she surprised me with a text message that said something like: 'It was nice meeting you. Is there anything else I can do for you?
I replied: 'What would you like to do for me?
'Anything you want' she said. OK, that was clear.
So I invited her to come to my hotel. She said she would do that but first she had to bring a neighbour to the pagoda. In the end she never showed up and didn't respond to my texts and calls anymore. The following morning I got an excuse from her that she had been very busy and was too tired to meet me. That was a pity because I was heading for Thailand that same morning.
So here you are, a report of my first 'unstable' steps in the world of mobile internet.[/QUOTE]Everyone who spends a lot of time in Thailand should be on Line if they have a smart phone and if they don't they should buy one. Every Thai girl I know is on Line. It can also work as a mini-Facebook as many of the girl post photos of themselves on their "Homepage" on Line. If they allow you access. They can turn your access off if they want to. Once you meet a girl and she has Line you can either add them through their phone number or their Line I'd or if they are next to you it can be done with the QR Code or Shaking your phones together. Once you have Line set up on your phone you can then download the app to your PC and use that. It synchs automatically with activity on your phone. Having Line saves money on sending sms's, it's totally free as it uses the internet as its provider, allows you to call or do a video call anywhere you are as long as you have the internet and allows you to stay in touch easily no matter where you are. When I was back in the USA I would wake up every day to messages from a number of girls in Thailand and Farangs as well.
Then you should download a Translator as well and if a girl sends you a Line in Thai you can copy it by pressing your finger down on the text and choosing copy and paste it into your translator. The Translators are admittedly only good for short messages and then often just barely.
Line can be found in the Google Play Store which most smartphones will automatically have as an icon on their phone. So are social media apps like Tango and We Chat. Just hit install and follow instructions. Have your phone number on hand.
I installed Tango a month or so back but have not really been able to use it to look for girls due to present circumstances. I was really just curious how it worked. Very easily as it turns out. If your GPS is turned to On in your smart phone it will determine where you are and you can search for girls within a 10 k distance or for girls in a specific location though another option. Their photos will pop up and you can look through them in order to see which girls might be of interest to you. You can either send them a wink or a message. They will either reply or not. I have no idea what pct of the girls are interested in meeting Farangs for either professional or social or sexual purposes. I think a lot of girls just use it as yet another way to put up pictures of themselves, something Thai girls seem to love to do. Others are clearly looking for business from the photos that they do put up. Others will state that they do not want to be contacted for sexual services. I am around 60 and have put up a current photo of myself for girls to see, as they are doing a search for people just like you are. Some 15 to 20 girls have contacted me. A few of them very cute, most average at best. For what purpose I don't know but I would have to assume that most of them who are contacting a man of my age are doing it for financial reasons. When you do your search you can filter it (martini glass in top right corner) to women only. But beware Ladyboys consider themselves women and there are more than a few in there!
[QUOTE=JokerInter;1656448]Went last night to Patpong.
I finally visited Patpong last night as planned. Had a great time. I don't know why fellow mongers waste their time at Nana or cowboy as its to commercial for me. Patpong has a lot of mystery. I picked up a FL for 2000 BT last night at Twilo, the corner bar with live music. She stayed till 3 pm today. We left at 230 am once they closed. The Night market wraps up at midnight now. I remember it to be later. I also went to Kings Castle for a few beers. I tried picking up the manger Jean. She said she was to old but I didn't my as she still look good.
Star of light was closed. I wonder why. Anyway I recommend the corners bars that play live music for some FL action.[/QUOTE]There is always a concept of freaks. You might be one of them as most thin k PatPong has declined drastically over the years. I am one of them. Good you like it aS you can have it all 2 yourself.
I've been noticing lately Rainbow 4 has improved its middle of the line-up girl. Very OK to ogle for an hour. If they were able to get 3 or 4 really good lookers they would be on top again.