Sosua Reports

I think there are many reasons for the drop in quality. However chief is the police crack d0 wn. The ego of the quality girls can not bear being chased by police. Never the less there are more then enough hot girls to keep you occupied. Going to a club feeled with hot non pros out partying is a waste of my expensive time. I am not looking for relationships or trophies. In truth high season has not kicked off so I not sure what the scene will be like this year. Like you said things do change. The current club scene is not easy to navigate for the girls.

[QUOTE=Revere;2250627]Oldkool I hear you. I am just answering the question. Nothing personal. Where are the hot chicks. They use to be in sosua as someone said. People have said now they are leaving the DR. All I said, they have not gone anywhere. They are in the cities at the hot clubs. There is a lot of money in the hot clubs. More Dominican baseball players in the league. A lot more Dominican artists doing well in the music game. Dominican Republic is drug distribution point. Construction continues in the cities. Put all those factors together there is a lot of money in the clubs in the cities. Hot chicks do not have to come to sosua for 2000 pesos. Again, the question was asked why less hot chicks in sosua. I am just giving you an answer. Nothing personal. Just providing facts. Needing a 10 is personal preference. Always do you and what makes you happy, but never take it personal when someone gives you an answer. I am just telling you what I have seen taking place. Have any of you gone to kaviar on a Sunday night in Puerto Plata. Use to be a lot working girls. Now mostly packed with locals and non pros. Things change.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;2250715]I think there are many reasons for the drop in quality. However chief is the police crack d0 wn. The ego of the quality girls can not bear being chased by police. Never the less there are more then enough hot girls to keep you occupied. Going to a club feeled with hot non pros out partying is a waste of my expensive time. I am not looking for relationships or trophies. In truth high season has not kicked off so I not sure what the scene will be like this year. Like you said things do change. The current club scene is not easy to navigate for the girls.[/QUOTE]It's a quiet Sunday here. Everybody is in Rumba watching football! My buddies are having a difficult time with reservations so the high season is about to kick in. I got rid of my GF TIL next Thursday and am having a drink with two of the most beautiful women I have ever seen away, well away from the "scene". With cheap drinks and my music!

There are many Sosuas!

You choose!

Adding to the recent pile of Trip Reports. Did 8 days. Most of the vets have done a good job summing it up, so I'll add a couple of nuggets.

The place across from Classico's (formerly the'Latin) is becoming a store owned by some Asian folks.

OldKool mentioned that he got stuck for some after shave. I don't know what in the entire f&*k the deal is with chicks stealing mens cologne. I won't say I got sloppy; everything else in the room was secured except for that, my toothbrush and my toothpaste. Didn't know they had a thing for a half used bottle.

There was indeed a shortage of talent at the higher end of the spectrum. Even over the weekend. Not a problem for me, I don't like prissy bitches in the bed. Just an observation.

The "my pussy is gold" attitude is quite prevalent. Most nights, I didn't partake for that reason. Give me a down to earth chica who is happy and appreciative for the work any day of the week.

1000 and 1500 peso toto IS STILL A THING. Don't be a punk. Just be ready to walk. Sometimes I ask their price in English just to let them say something dumb. Then I tell them NFW for that price (in Spanish), and walk off. Gets their attention. Other times, I just tell them "pago mil pesos (or mil quieniento pesos) dime" and walk off. Had a couple of chicas run a half a block to catch me.

50.05/$1 on the exchange is beautiful.

New Rumba is much more quiet than old Rumba.

Bourbon Street is still the center of the universe until Classico's opens.

The police aren't particularly aggressive with the chicas. They're just looking for Haitians and girls who don't look classy or get caught not paying attention. It's almost a stampede when the girls run down the street back and forth every time they drive or walk by.

I'm sure I forgot something. If I remember, I'll holler back.

[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2250685]Agreed.

If "Maria" returns after a month or two, with money earned "working at a casino" its very possible that family members won't push for details.

Got to maintain the family "respectability. ".

I have known a woman who once worked as a chica at BB, but would not discuss men, and certain other topics with her sisters, as that would be "inappropriate. ".

Some Dominicans have to maintain a measure of "respectability" in public, even if it requires some deception to do so.[/QUOTE]Having had two long time relationships with chicas (not from Sosua) and spent time with their cash poor, but self sufficient families in the barrio and up in the hillside towns I have a different take on the social attitudes of the locals, quite a bit different from the usual monger's analysis frequently presented here.

Dirt poor families want the best for their chidren all over the world, but down here the routine is a local girl gets snapped up by a local no job chico and left with a bambina or two and then he goes on to the next one, or disappears altogether. Esta la vida! Family finishes up taking care of daughter and her kids.

Now she's tainted goods, saddled with a kid or two, she's looking for a job to help suport her family. No jobs, but if she's presentable, her cousin in Charamicos, PP or SD can get her on the game, to make some real easy money to buy stuff and send home.

If she's not very bright, she'll end up walking the streets in Boca / Sosua, but if she's a little smarter, and personable, she may end up a regular GF for a foreigner who will give her money, nice hotels when he's there, and even send her WU, even if he's only down there a couple of times a year. She can live!

Her family, morals aside, see her either wasting her life in the barrio with a series of no job chicos, or a "rich" foreigner who treats her well, with dinero for bambina commida, esquela, cumpleanos, navided fiesta.

She brings him home to the family and they embrace him whole heartedly. They are all happy with the deal.

It's less to do with morality and more about the harsh reality of life.

For his part, the smart foreigner keeps control, establishes some understood rules, limits his expenditures to a sustainable budget with no future committments or promises, and can live happily ever after.

Mongers in a third world country contemplating, lecturing or obsessing about the "morality" of the locals is alway a big joke to me!

Very well said and right on!

[QUOTE=Oakie;2250991]Having had two long time relationships with chicas (not from Sosua) and spent time with their cash poor, but self sufficient families in the barrio and up in the hillside towns I have a different take on the social attitudes of the locals, quite a bit different from the usual monger's analysis frequently presented here.

Dirt poor families want the best for their children all over the world, but down here the routine is a local girl gets snapped up by a local no job chico and left with a bambina or two and then he goes on to the next one, or disappears altogether. Esta la vida! Family finishes up taking care of daughter and her kids.

Now she's tainted goods, saddled with a kid or two, she's looking for a job to help support her family. No jobs, but if she's presentable, her cousin in Charamicos, PP or SD can get her on the game, to make some real easy money to buy stuff and send home.

If she's not very bright, she'll end up walking the streets in Boca / Sosua, but if she's a little smarter, and personable, she may end up a regular GF for a foreigner who will give her money, nice hotels when he's there, and even send her WU, even if he's only down there a couple of times a year. She can live![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Oakie;2250991]Having had two long time relationships with chicas (not from Sosua) and spent time with their cash poor, but self sufficient families in the barrio and up in the hillside towns I have a different take on the social attitudes of the locals, quite a bit different from the usual monger's analysis frequently presented here.

Dirt poor families want the best for their chidren all over the world, but down here the routine is a local girl gets snapped up by a local no job chico and left with a bambina or two and then he goes on to the next one, or disappears altogether. Esta la vida! Family finishes up taking care of daughter and her kids.

Now she's tainted goods, saddled with a kid or two, she's looking for a job to help suport her family. No jobs, but if she's presentable, her cousin in Charamicos, PP or SD can get her on the game, to make some real easy money to buy stuff and send home.

If she's not very bright, she'll end up walking the streets in Boca / Sosua, but if she's a little smarter, and personable, she may end up a regular GF for a foreigner who will give her money, nice hotels when he's there, and even send her WU, even if he's only down there a couple of times a year. She can live![/QUOTE]Good post Sir, one thing about me and you Oakie is that we are willing to share our lifestyles while living on the island, good or bad. I'm in the process of giving up one of the best girls I have ever had over her not understanding the limitations of what I can do now.

She works and makes 2500 pesos a week. I'm no longer a free spending tourist and have been explaining this to her for the last year. She says she gets it and it's not about the money. She has become a new bill in retirement that I don't need. I help her regularly and don't mind but it's always about the family and somehow she feels they are my responsibility. She refuses to ask them for assistance but has no problem asking me to help them. Even though her and the boys buy me cheap gifts on my birthday and fathers day, its usually with the money I give her. Damn, I even asked her to give me one month without her asking me for shit and she can't do it. Even her offering to pay the bill when we hangout would be appreciated. She really tries but the outside pressure is to much for her to refuse because her heart is so good. Even in my previous DR relationships these same problems occurred but it was easy for me to move on because they weren't as special as this one. I'm not sure if she just doesn't get it or if the family pressure is just to much?

She is a good girl because she is a great mother, fucks me good, cleans and cooks and has pizazz. I have never sent her money western union the last two years we have been dating. She doesn't trip and let's me hang with the boys when they come to the DR, some of them from this board. They can verify that she is a keeper. Shit, she has even found a used condom in the trash and forgiven me that day.

Any women I date now will have to be self sufficient because I didn't retire to go broke over a piece of ass. Luckily you Oakie have one that understands your limitations but it's rare on the island, especially if you are a foreigner.

Yo! Came in Friday on the redeye after work! Having a good time! Plenty of talent. I agree that there aren't many times. But there are an abundance of attractive Chicas. Sonfar the sex has been great! 2500-3000 is what I've been paying. You can probably go cheaper, but I'm not really trying to break them down. Lots of my buddies in town as usual. Me an tomjackin having a blast as always! Good ole sosua! I'm just warming up! Peace!

[QUOTE=BrotherP;2251109]Yo! Came in Friday on the redeye after work! Having a good time! Plenty of talent. I agree that there aren't many times. But there are an abundance of attractive Chicas. Sonfar the sex has been great! 2500-3000 is what I've been paying. You can probably go cheaper, but I'm not really trying to break them down. Lots of my buddies in town as usual. Me an tomjackin having a blast as always! Good ole sosua! I'm just warming up! Peace![/QUOTE]Friday and Saturday nights were off the hook. Tons of options. Even last night there were many options.

Sosua is far from dead.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;2251003]Good post Sir, one thing about me and you Oakie is that we are willing to share our lifestyles while living on the island, good or bad. I'm in the process of giving up one of the best girls I have ever had over her not understanding the limitations of what I can do now.

She works and makes 2500 pesos a week. I'm no longer a free spending tourist and have been explaining this to her for the last year. She says she gets it and it's not about the money. She has become a new bill in retirement that I don't need. I help her regularly and don't mind but it's always about the family and somehow she feels they are my responsibility. She refuses to ask them for assistance but has no problem asking me to help them. Even though her and the boys buy me cheap gifts on my birthday and fathers day, its usually with the money I give her. Damn, I even asked her to give me one month without her asking me for shit and she can't do it. Even her offering to pay the bill when we hangout would be appreciated. She really tries but the outside pressure is to much for her to refuse because her heart is so good. Even in my previous DR relationships these same problems occurred but it was easy for me to move on because they weren't as special as this one. I'm not sure if she just doesn't get it or if the family pressure is just to much?

She is a good girl because she is a great mother, fucks me good, cleans and cooks and has pizazz. I have never sent her money western union the last two years we have been dating. She doesn't trip and let's me hang with the boys when they come to the DR, some of them from this board. They can verify that she is a keeper. Shit, she has even found a used condom in the trash and forgiven me that day.

Any women I date now will have to be self sufficient because I didn't retire to go broke over a piece of ass. Luckily you Oakie have one that understands your limitations but it's rare on the island, especially if you are a foreigner.[/QUOTE]Listen to my mentor, folks. Especialy the older ones looking to get organized down here permanently!

The rest of you can ignore these posts, do your shit and good luck!

As Mr GoGo says, it's tough, there is compromise, but you can never lose control. I just spent a morning yesterday at my pool, explaining to my fuck, local street smart negotiator, cook and cleaner, family connection, and connection to other good fucks, why she should go home to PP until next Thursday. She didn't want to go. We came to an ultimatum.

I said she could be hefe (boss) on the weekends, but I must be hefe Monday through Thursday. She eventually got it and now we are OK! I got the money so I have the last say! I do cater to her ego, and tell her what I am doing during the week, working out, getting healthy and no partying without her. LOL!

But I just spent an afternoon with a beauty that I've known for a couple years and didn't expect to see, and I won't aggravate her with THAT story.

But generally I am monogomous with her, so much so that for the first time in 10 years I am bringing my son down to Sosua, to introduce him to some real people locals and let him know his Papa is not just mongering with putas.

After 8 years with one DR GF, I never thought I would ever find another that I could ever have anything in common with, but being prepared to draw the line and walk got me here. They respect that!

Thank you Mr GoGo for all your advice, and I hope I can return a little of the favor by telling you my shit here!

[QUOTE=Revere;2250627]Oldkool I hear you. I am just answering the question. Nothing personal. Where are the hot chicks. They use to be in sosua as someone said. People have said now they are leaving the DR. All I said, they have not gone anywhere. They are in the cities at the hot clubs. There is a lot of money in the hot clubs. More Dominican baseball players in the league. A lot more Dominican artists doing well in the music game. Dominican Republic is drug distribution point. Construction continues in the cities. Put all those factors together there is a lot of money in the clubs in the cities. Hot chicks do not have to come to sosua for 2000 pesos. Again, the question was asked why less hot chicks in sosua. I am just giving you an answer. Nothing personal. Just providing facts. Needing a 10 is personal preference. Always do you and what makes you happy, but never take it personal when someone gives you an answer. I am just telling you what I have seen taking place. Have any of you gone to kaviar on a Sunday night in Puerto Plata. Use to be a lot working girls. Now mostly packed with locals and non pros. Things change.[/QUOTE]Revere it's interesting how your motivation to answer questions to posts not directed to you kicks in. But when I for example, ask you some specific questions regarding the things you said about hot chicks. I can't get a response, no feedback. And yet you seem to find time to answer questions to posts not directed to you? LOL Can you provide facts if someone actually asks you direct questions to things you said?

One last thing. It's really kind of ridiculous to be debating over the physical attraction and desirability in women as if there is only one standard to go by to determine what makes a female hot and another not. A few individuals with their own tastes don't make the rules for everybody else on what's physically attractive or desirable in a woman / provider.

So when guys claim there werent many good looking girls on his vacation, or guys are raving about hot chicks in the club, I take all of that with a grain of salt. I can't base what other men are attracted to or repulsed by and make that my only consideration or standard that applies to me in regards to women in Sosua or elsewhere just because he / they said so. A man's choice of sex provider may include a lot more important factors than simply going by where someone else claims the hot chicks are supposedly hanging out at.

Thats why I don't say alot about the appearance of chicks in Sosua, the Dr in general, Thailand or the Philippines. Beauty, desirability, service and the cost is the responsibility of the individual to determine for themselves. You don't leave that responsibility for what you like or don't like in the hands of individuals that do not represent you. And especially with those who do not care about or relate to your interests.

As promised I am writing a report from my experience in Sosua. As mentioned before, I travel with my girl, and we both play. First went to Blackbeards, didn't see too many girls maybe 10 at most, but saw one that checked most of our boxes, when we decided to pull the plug (I told them all night as we like to take our time etc) she comes back to tell me oh she has an appointment in 30 min, then another in an hour, then an hour after that but she will be free from 10 pm, huge turn off for me that she is that busy. So we pay for our drinks and head back to Sosua. Go to Classicos, look around, not many our type, spot one, talk to her and she agrees to 4000 pesos (that's a bit high I know but we are a couple). Get back to the room, and had a good time, didn't have to ask for BBBJ, got one off the bat, showered together etc. I only played once on this trip.

Now to compare it to my Colombia trip, I have noticed most girls on the strip in Sosua are pro pros. In Colombia you have many who do it here and there, and are not as jaded if that makes sense. To each their own, but I like Colombian women better, prettier faces, nicer skin, better bodies etc. Plus in Colombia its easy to get a girl for a day, or a few days, not pay that much and actually have a good time, but from the girls I talked to in DR they are all about money, and how fast they can get to the next one.

Now to throw in the third place, So far in my monger travels I would say the best I had so far has been Cuba, beautiful woman, true GFE from most. Non are jaded, and you can literally walk up to girls in the stores, or walking in the street and pick them up.

The convenience of DR is nicer beaches, way better than Colombia, and nicer than Cuba, shorter flight, and being able to rent a car. Food is decent, roads are okay, and I got very lucky with the weather.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2251502]Revere it's interesting how your motivation to answer questions to posts not directed to you kicks in. But when I for example, ask you some specific questions regarding the things you said about hot chicks. I can't get a response, no feedback. And yet you seem to find time to answer questions to posts not directed to you? LOL Can you provide facts if someone actually asks you direct questions to things you said?

One last thing. It's really kind of ridiculous to be debating over the physical attraction and desirability in women as if there is only one standard to go by to determine what makes a female hot and another not. A few individuals with their own tastes don't make the rules for everybody else on what's physically attractive or desirable in a woman / provider.

So when guys claim there werent many good looking girls on his vacation, or guys are raving about hot chicks in the club, I take all of that with a grain of salt. I can't base what other men are attracted to or repulsed by and make that my only consideration or standard that applies to me in regards to women in Sosua or elsewhere just because he / they said so. A man's choice of sex provider may include a lot more important factors than simply going by where someone else claims the hot chicks are supposedly hanging out at.

Thats why I don't say alot about the appearance of chicks in Sosua, the Dr in general, Thailand or the Philippines. Beauty, desirability, service and the cost is the responsibility of the individual to determine for themselves. You don't leave that responsibility for what you like or don't like in the hands of individuals that do not represent you. And especially with those who do not care about or relate to your interests.[/QUOTE]We can debate all we want. It comes back to there has been a huge drop off in pretty chicks coming to sosua. That is a fact. The question is why. I said I see a lot of those same chicks in the hot clubs within the DR and I gave my reasons for that. That's all I can say. You can give me all the analysis you want I am just telling you what I see. You also see people saying not just me not as many pretty girls in sosua now. That's it. I do not know about other places, but what I can tell you you go to the hot clubs in the DR you will see a lot of pretty chicks. That simple. Not complicated my analysis. I keep asking a simple question when is the last time you visited a hot club in the DR.

[QUOTE=Zvear;2251518]First went to Blackbeards, didn't see too many girls maybe 10 at most, but saw one that checked most of our boxes, when we decided to pull the plug (I told them all night as we like to take our time etc) she comes back to tell me oh she has an appointment in 30 min, then another in an hour, then an hour after that but she will be free from 10 pm, huge turn off for me that she is that busy.[/QUOTE]Isn't that to be expected when you have 50 guys sharing the same 10 girls?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2251895]Isn't that to be expected when you have 50 guys sharing the same 10 girls?[/QUOTE]Honestly I didn't know what to expect, it was my first time there. I don't plan my trip just to monger, so I couldn't care less if it doesn't work out. I was just used to the Colombian girls I usually see, way less mileage than these girls.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2251895]Isn't that to be expected when you have 50 guys sharing the same 10 girls?[/QUOTE]Yes. Place reminds me of Colombia. Just wait your turn in till she's finished.