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I don't think its the prices that keep Americans from going to BKK. Its how long it takes.

[QUOTE=ThePro;1657144]Be very wary over police shakedowns at the moment. Seems to happen a lot in upper Sukhumvit. So from Asoke area up to Thonglor (So Soi 19 upwards).

[URL]http://www.smh.com.au/world/bangkok-tourists-caught-up-in-shakedown-20141212-125voa.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you for posting this. Does anyone here have any experience with this? It is sometimes difficult to know whether media reports are overblown, or portray things accurately.

[QUOTE=PaulKausch;1657329]I've noticed the same about the Cherry website. I do know a few of the Cherry ladies are out of the country looking for more business. That may have something to do with it.[/QUOTE]I sent an email to Cherry a few hours ago and they responded extremely quickly with a very informative reply listing services and prices. They also attached a pdf with their current roster.

They said that their site should be back up in 2-3 weeks.

I will travel to Bangkok in February with my girlfriend but I have only one night free to escape and to enjoy the night in Bangkok without her.

For that night I have US $250 dollars to spend in a good Thai pussy (or two), so please what place do you recommend to have a good experience with a Thai girl? W I'm looking for full.

Service, DFK and DATY if is possible. I have only one opportunity to live the Thai experience so in advance

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Steve7777;1657261]Anyone read Stickman in which he interview 3 escorts. Just as delusional as some men are. They are not like agogo prostitutes- they are much better.

What puzzles me is the income, 100,000-300,000 baht is normal? I highly doubt it. Can someone confirm.

[/QUOTE]I read this as well and am skeptical. I know a few fls who are also on escort sites and they all told me that they are lucky if they get more than a few assignations a month thru the site. Thus still freelancing. But just running thru the numbers it seems unlikely that most escorts make this kind of money. Most escorts charge 5000 baht a session of which they keep 2500. So for 100,000 that would be 40 sessions a month. For 300,000 baht that would be 120 sessions a month. There are a ton of escort services out there so it is hard to figure that many girls would get that many sessions especially as most of them don't look that great on the websites even with photoshop aiding them (I confess to booking an escort girl one time. It was the same girl as the photo but 1/3 as good looking). But I guess from time to time they get the big spenders or guys who take them all day or all week and that is a huge charge. Perhaps a few top girls at elite escort services do well but I would guess that most do not. But this opinion is just that. But if those girls that Stickman interviewed with a photo of each are making that kind of money, then every working girl in Thailand should be in the escort business.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1657338]The good ones don't last long and like everywhere, what's left over later are the dregs.[/QUOTE]I was there about 9 pm; the stage was packed; I intentionally mentioned I was there only one night and that it was a Thursday night in late November.

Work Girls earnings vary tremendously. It is of course the multiplication of the number of customers by the price per occasion.

A top bargirl can make very far in excess of 100 K per month sometimes approaching 200 K. Why? She might do 2 STs in the evening at 2. 5 K or 3 K followed by a late LT booking on a good night, or even 4 STs sometimes. Takes many ST customers in a room above bar. Some guys blow their load quite quickly. She doesn't do 2 shots unless the customer pays extra. She is hard working and takes just a few days off per month. May take her first ST of evening as early as 6:30 PM. In contrast other bargirls are getting BFed quite rarely. They just cannot compete with the stunning and charming girls.

An Oily girl probably makes about 1400 per booking, so to make big money, has to take more customers.

A BJ Bar girl gets only half of a very low fee per BJ. So has to do a very large number of customers to make big money, or get some good tips. Amazingly some customers try to get BJ and sex for just the 1 K, where girl probably only gets half of it. Ridiculous. Girls can boost earnings by VIP or off for the night providing customer is not too stingy.

I don't know much about how much business escort girls can get so won't comment.

[QUOTE=DRRonin;1657444]I read this as well and am skeptical. I know a few fls who are also on escort sites and they all told me that they are lucky if they get more than a few assignations a month thru the site. Thus still freelancing. But just running thru the numbers it seems unlikely that most escorts make this kind of money. Most escorts charge 5000 baht a session of which they keep 2500. So for 100,000 that would be 40 sessions a month. For 300,000 baht that would be 120 sessions a month.[/QUOTE]As always, one would expect a huge gulf between the earnings of a very ordinary escort girl and one that is in high demand.

[QUOTE=PaulKausch;1657300]The gogo bars have changed dramatically. In June I saw a lot of nudity. Then the girls at Crazy House were hot and mostly buck naked. So I went there on my first night out this trip, which was a Thursday, and was surprised to see that Crazy House had turned into a dog house. All the girls were wearing bikini tops and a G-string covered by a micro skirt. On that night they were the sorriest looking collection of girls I saw in any gogo I visited on the trip.[/QUOTE]I am shocked. This is from someone with not such a high standard for ladies (based on the thick, flat assed, siliconed Nun at SW). LOL. Maybe you don't go for all the really slim girls at Crazy House that might appeal to me.

It was just a temporary aberration. Nudity is back. Some young girls are probably back. Friday and Saturday nights sees an influx of extra girls on no salary that boosts the line up. Good girls get BFed early, so line up deteriorates particularly on weaker days. This bar is packed out with customers by 8:30 PM. You would be crazy to arrive late. Some girl (s) previously doing nude dancing, and very good looking, have changed to clothed PR front of house work. Some of the very hottest girls disappeared or are now seen rarely. One such girl was Nut with a 10 body including high natural see+ cups, and a 9 point face, and one of the good ones on the bed. Finished with her Tom girlfriend and disappeared from the bar a few months back. Would have booked her regularly if she kept coming. Line up for sure is down a bit from last June, but still packs the customers in very early in the night. There are some really great looking slim girls still there at times. Still more better looking natural girls than the other bars in Cowboy, if you don't need big tits. Even the Coyote bars I have been in don't really have more than 2 or 3 stunners. However my standard is set very high.

I will take a look in Baccara tonight if Mint is working (a very pretty natural girl), as I normally hate the "alien" look of most Baccara girls.

[QUOTE=Steve7777;1657261]Do guys really buy out new off the farm prostitutes out of the bar? And if they do -what do they do with them? No fake dating or living together first?

What puzzles me is the income, 100,000-300,000 baht is normal? I highly doubt it. Can someone confirm.[/QUOTE]I've heard of a few guys taking fresh girls from bars, mainly related to me by bar owners as they are now down a staff member. I wouldn't say it is common but it happens. There is a buy-out fee payable to the bar, I was told what it was but can't remember now. Old age is getting to me.

I'd be skeptical about the income. 100,000 I could believe if they were sponsored by an OS boyfriend or two, but then they probably wouldn't bother being in the industry much as this is a pretty high income.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1657477]Work Girls earnings vary tremendously. It is of course the multiplication of the number of customers by the price per occasion.

A top bargirl can make very far in excess of 100 K per month sometimes approaching 200 K. Why? She might do 2 STs in the evening at 2. 5 K or 3 K followed by a late LT booking on a good night, or even 4 STs sometimes. Takes many ST customers in a room above bar. Some guys blow their load quite quickly. She doesn't do 2 shots unless the customer pays extra. She is hard working and takes just a few days off per month. May take her first ST of evening as early as 6:30 PM. In contrast other bargirls are getting BFed quite rarely. They just cannot compete with the stunning and charming girls.

An Oily girl probably makes about 1400 per booking, so to make big money, has to take more customers.

A BJ Bar girl gets only half of a very low fee per BJ. So has to do a very large number of customers to make big money, or get some good tips. Amazingly some customers try to get BJ and sex for just the 1 K, where girl probably only gets half of it. Ridiculous. Girls can boost earnings by VIP or off for the night providing customer is not too stingy.

I don't know much about how much business escort girls can get so won't comment.[/QUOTE]You must be losing it. I find it hard to believe populars girls who get barfined everyday-no matter Hi or low season, Hi water or low water are willing to top off the night with a long time. Or go cruising as a FL at a dingy disco.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1657477]Work Girls earnings vary tremendously. It is of course the multiplication of the number of customers by the price per occasion.

A top bargirl can make very far in excess of 100 K per month sometimes approaching 200 K. Why? She might do 2 STs in the evening at 2. 5 K or 3 K followed by a late LT booking on a good night, or even 4 STs sometimes. Takes many ST customers in a room above bar. Some guys blow their load quite quickly. She doesn't do 2 shots unless the customer pays extra. She is hard working and takes just a few days off per month. May take her first ST of evening as early as 6:30 PM. In contrast other bargirls are getting BFed quite rarely. They just cannot compete with the stunning and charming girls.

An Oily girl probably makes about 1400 per booking, so to make big money, has to take more customers.

A BJ Bar girl gets only half of a very low fee per BJ. So has to do a very large number of customers to make big money, or get some good tips. Amazingly some customers try to get BJ and sex for just the 1 K, where girl probably only gets half of it. Ridiculous. Girls can boost earnings by VIP or off for the night providing customer is not too stingy.

I don't know much about how much business escort girls can get so won't comment.[/QUOTE]I know one massage girl from a massage place in Soi 4.

Normal Thai massage is 500 thb, she gets half, she is working 6 days per week from 2 pm to 2 am, and has between 5-8 customers a day, so it is around 1500 thb per day. But her real earnings are for the extra service.

Soi 4 is actually very expensive for that. She charge 500 for handjob or 1000 for blowjob, sex is not allowed in there. She tells me that around 3-4 blowjob per day (3-4000 thb).

That means around 4000 per day x 6 days per week = 24000 x4 weeks = 96000 per month. She is an normal average massage girl 28 years.

I bet many don't earn that amount in US or Europe.

[QUOTE=Steve7777;1657499]You must be losing it. I find it hard to believe populars girls who get barfined everyday-no matter Hi or low season, Hi water or low water are willing to top off the night with a long time. Or go cruising as a FL at a dingy disco.[/QUOTE]I am not losing it. I know one very highly in demand bargirl. She literally has problems with several repeat customers all showing up and wanting her at the same time. The mamasan has to say to them "take a number" in the queue. She doesn't have to go to lousy disco and waste her time. She has many customers pre-booking her. I have been just one of her customers. She says that she very rarely has to take a new customer, as she has so many regular customers. This is an exceptional abnormal case. I only use it to illustrate that a top bargirl can earn big money. Baccara has top girls that do 3 STs a night on a very regular basis too. Many of the Japanese customers live here.

I am in Thailand for total of 4 months per year. Seasons has nothing to do with it. I may be missing in the peak tourist season somewhat.

Have you never been to Rainbow 4 and seen the hottest girls there, leave with a customer, return 30 mins later, and soon be leaving with another customer? I go there very rarely but I have witnessed the girls that work a procession of customers.

I am going to change my tune dramatically about Crazy House. There has been a very disturbing trend there. Quite a number of girls appear to have got recent nose jobs. I don't know if there is some bulk discount going.

To me this just makes the girls look less Thai, less feminine and even less human. They could be a bunch of aliens. The acceleration in nose jobs is dramatic. Its a copycat fashion. Girls that previously had beautiful noses to my taste have now lost the slight up curve. I am now really struggling to find many beautiful and 100% natural girls. Fortunately the number of silicone boobs has not taken off that dramatically. However I am thinking this bar is soon going to have mostly girls that look similar to the Baccara alien look. One girl looked decidedly like a LB, however I was assured she was not and had a real pussy. I suppose to be fair, the hairstyles are generally still not as ridiculous as a Baccara or Rainbow 4.

I could swear that when I first attended Crazy House the percentage of nose jobs was quite low. Now it seems well beyond the 50% mark and could even be approaching 80% for girls worth looking at. I haven't tried a head count of course. There is also possibly a decline in percentage of totally nude girls.

Its getting to the point that I am losing all interest in attending any bars to just watch naked girls. Getting too hard to find any all natural quality. I will probably just arrange to meet selected favourite girls via Line App or similar when need a fuck. Maybe occasional bar look for new talent.

Today was in Crazy House by 8:15. This is best time to see the best line up. Bar was almost full. Mostly Farangs. Very few Japanese today. This is a big shock. Don't understand why. Perhaps with all the nose jobs, they might think that Baccara is just as good now, or move to Shark.

Walked past Boss Massage (Soi 24/1) today at 6:30PM. Maybe 15 girls sitting outside. At least 3 of them looked rather pretty to my taste. I think their line up is seriously prettier than most Oilies. Service, I don't know since my favourite girls from there are gone.

Paul Kausch; s Mojie is one of the few who can come back from a short time and be off on another one in 20 minute. She is an exception!

Carefully analyzing Rainbow 1 girls I wouldn't be surprised if most are in debt to the bar. They are just so not worth $100 for a short time or any time for that matter.

I also count 5 are. 1 girls who have moved on to are. 4. That tells me its hard to make money at are. 1. I just don't see the barfining there like The other Rainbows.