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[QUOTE=Goferring;2888786]Sorry, I still don't get it. His LOS posts are about the 'good old days' but that doesn't explain leaving there for a short trip to AC. Especially so when he doesn't like it.

Again, his money, his time so his choice. I'm just wondering why someone would leave Bangkok, Pattaya or Phuket for a short sojourn to AC.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]Ok lets be more precise. I will spend about 4 weeks in LOS (Bkk, Pattaya and Phuket). The last leg of my trip will be Philippines and I will catch a flight from Clark airport back home.

I have been to LOS exactly 10 times, last time was pre-covid.

Yes AC is crap but as I mentioned I love ABC hotel so my MO would be spending days at the hotel just going out to pick some girls to join me for fun. For that purpose I'm absolutely ok with couple of days there. I don't mind the transfer / associated costs getting to AC from LOS.

And BTW as you said talking about "good old days" in Pattaya has absolutely nothing to do with my trip to AC but I can't bother replying to this guy, most of his posts make no sense anyway LOL.

Just got back from my trip to A / see. I took a friend who has never been there but has been to Thailand many times. I told him to try and not compare the P. I. To Thailand and to keep an open mind. He was able to and had a great time. We went to many clubs and never once were we denied entry or girls in the Korean bars. In fact they were just as welcoming as the non Korean bars. Fortunately, this time of year it was overcast but never rained on us. Also the timing was great because I know the main complaint is nothing to do during the day. My friend is a football fanatic so the playoff games started at 05:00 on one day and 04:00 the next. The two games per day usually took about 6-8 hours to complete. He is such a fanatic, when he barfined a chick, he would kick them out before the game started and headed to Philly's to watch the game. I'm more of a basketball fan and at least those games started around 11:00 am.

We were there for four nights total. I know there is talk about how the Koreans are taking over but what I was more worried about is the number of people on Walking Street. Nothing like the past and if there isn't more visitors, I don't see how these bars can survive. A / see is different but I still like it. The barfines were anywhere from $3500 - $6000 pesos. I only barfined three girls with the highest price of $5500 pesos. One was $5000 and the last at $4000. Only the highest price chick didn't like to do any kind of BJ. I know from past reviews that it's hard to find good looking women here. Maybe my taste is different because I didn't have that problem, neither did my friend. I'm going to list most of the bars we went to. There were many more bars but I couldn't remember the names so owell. Just about every bar had at least one really good looking chick. This is just my opinion and like everything in our hobby, timing is everything. This is just for the looks of the girls and not the club itself.

Angel Witch. Below average. There was one girl who looked black, that looked very good. She would walk in and out of the club at different times but not sure if she was up for barfine. The sign said it was open 24 hours.

Bars that open early.

Genesis. Slightly above average. This is the one that cost $5500.

Bacarra. Slightly above average. This one cost $5000.

Hi Quality. Slightly above average. Most of the girls looked very young.

Too be continue..

Clubs that open later.

Lolipops. Slightly above average.

Dollhouse. Below average. What happen to this place? Only 6 girls just basically standing around.

Atlantis. Slightly above average.

Owlsnest. Below average. This place seem to be more for playing pool and chilling.

Meiko. Slightly above average. New club near my hotel, the Central Plaza. Upstairs you can play pool, downstairs if you want to play with the girls.

Vikings. Average. I pulled a good girls last year from here, but not this time. They did have a ladyboy do a couple of songs and I have to admit, he / she had a great voice.

Shooter. Average. The best looking girl was the door girl who said she didn't barfine.

Imsomnia. Average.

Acye. Slightly below average.

Soju? Slightly below average.

Club XS. Above average. I did ask the mama san about one girl and she told me the girl was $6000 but she only did short time. I didn't take her but appreciated the mama san being upfront about only being short time.

Something King, or King something. Above average. This club is not on walking street and only found it when we were looking for a place to eat. At the time we went during the day, I would be happy with 80% of the girls.

The other bars, I forgot the names so sorry about that. Other than the one girl who didn't want to do a BJ, everyone else was good and no runners.

Some of the places we ate at were, Amigos street food (Mexican), Fortune (Chinese), Phillys, mostly finger foods while watching the games. Also some standard fare at the mall Until next time.

Almost forgot, one more bar on Walking st. La Masqueda. Average, but there was one obvious ladyboy on stage. She looked more like a boy than a feminine girl. I have nothing against lb but just wanted to let people know what to expect.

[QUOTE=QuackUp;2888905]and if there isn't more visitors, I don't see how these bars can survive. A / see is different but I still like it. The barfines were anywhere from $3500 - $6000 pesos. I only barfined three girls with the highest price of $5500 pesos. One was $5000 and the last at $4000.[/QUOTE]Scared me with these $0000 signs 0000₱ is what they use.

Dollhouse used to be my fav bar for a while because it used to be open 24 h.

Did you mean "Soju?" Soya? I actually bar fined a few girls from Soya maybe it has gone down hill since then.

As whole really AC has taken a massive hit, Even with all the customers that were previously spread out around perimeter their still seems to not be many punters. I could see this going the way of Kalijodo since most of these new owners are Korean nationals and not insulated by high ranking Filipino-Chinese. If they decided to crack down on korean business owners only a small handful of bars would survive. Could see it whittled down to a P Burgos situation.

800 billion dollar railway coming to clark / AC how will this effect this beloved shithole? Give it the customers it needs or will it sink it in the pursuit of gentrification.

[URL]https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1775918/construction-begins-for-p873-b-clark-laguna-railway-project[/URL]

That being said I booked a hotel at kokomos in honor of the good ol' days, one of the last truly old raunchy hotels left in AC equipped with stripper poles in the rooms and a bar connect to it for easy access. A shithole inside of a shithole.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2888935]Scared me with these $0000 signs 0000₱ is what they use.

Dollhouse used to be my fav bar for a while because it used to be open 24 h.

Did you mean "Soju?" Soya? I actually bar fined a few girls from Soya maybe it has gone down hill since then.

As whole really AC has taken a massive hit, Even with all the customers that were previously spread out around perimeter their still seems to not be many punters. I could see this going the way of Kalijodo since most of these new owners are Korean nationals and not insulated by high ranking Filipino-Chinese. If they decided to crack down on korean business owners only a small handful of bars would survive. Could see it whittled down to a P Burgos situation.

800 billion dollar railway coming to clark / AC how will this effect this beloved shithole? Give it the customers it needs or will it sink it in the pursuit of gentrification..[/QUOTE]I believe the Koreans are such a big factor now in the Clark / Pampanga business market that the Korean Chamber of Commerce would have a big say in things. Don't doubt they don't have financial clout. Look at the number of flights between CRK and South Korea, mostly businessmen. Outside of AC Korean tourist are a big market in Boracay and Cebu / Alona. Probably other places too. I have witnessed them here.

AC will still survive. Newbies bg are arriving daily from the provinces.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2888935]Scared me with these $0000 signs 0000₱ is what they use.

Dollhouse used to be my fav bar for a while because it used to be open 24 h.

Did you mean "Soju?" Soya? I actually bar fined a few girls from Soya maybe it has gone down hill since then.

As whole really AC has taken a massive hit, Even with all the customers that were previously spread out around perimeter their still seems to not be many punters. I could see this going the way of Kalijodo since most of these new owners are Korean nationals and not insulated by high ranking Filipino-Chinese. If they decided to crack down on korean business owners only a small handful of bars would survive. Could see it whittled down to a P Burgos situation.

800 billion dollar railway coming to clark / AC how will this effect this beloved shithole? Give it the customers it needs or will it sink it in the pursuit of gentrification.

[URL]https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1775918/construction-begins-for-p873-b-clark-laguna-railway-project[/URL]

That being said I booked a hotel at kokomos in honor of the good ol' days, one of the last truly old raunchy hotels left in AC equipped with stripper poles in the rooms and a bar connect to it for easy access. A shithole inside of a shithole.[/QUOTE]Yeah they are building a railway from Manila to AC. It will be built on an overhead platform, the platforms are already built just south of Angeles. Not to be picky but its 800 billion pesos, not dollars. But $14 billion US is still a lot of money. The money is "lent" by the Japanese government so they will buy Japanese trains. And we all know money never gets paid back in the Philipines. Its basically just another government subsidy in Japan.

There sure is a lot of money being poured into the Clark / Angeles / Subic area though. Most of it will probably end up in the pockets of the folks who are already rich. (Ayala / SM corp etc).

The train line will pass Kandi Towers then flyover Fields avenue about 100 yds from Walking st. There will be a new station about 800 yds down the road near SM. Then they will go underground and build a station at Clark airport. As to what will happen to walking St once its built, who knows. For the moment, enjoy Walking St while it still exists.

[QUOTE=Pussycat123;2888979]Yeah they are building a railway from Manila to AC. It will be built on an overhead platform, the platforms are already built just south of Angeles. Not to be picky but its 800 billion pesos, not dollars. But $14 billion US is still a lot of money. The money is "lent" by the Japanese government so they will buy Japanese trains. And we all know money never gets paid back in the Philipines. Its basically just another government subsidy in Japan.

There sure is a lot of money being poured into the Clark / Angeles / Subic area though. Most of it will probably end up in the pockets of the folks who are already rich. (Ayala / SM corp etc).

The train line will pass Kandi Towers then flyover Fields avenue about 100 yds from Walking st. There will be a new station about 800 yds down the road near SM. Then they will go underground and build a station at Clark airport. As to what will happen to walking St once its built, who knows. For the moment, enjoy Walking St while it still exists.[/QUOTE]And does anyone expect all this to happen in the lifetime of anyone on this board? How long has Clark been open? And still just a handful of daily flights in a huge terminal building. Our Shit hole isn't getting better infrastructure any time soon.

[QUOTE=QuackUp;2888905]We were there for four nights total. I know there is talk about how the Koreans are taking over but what I was more worried about is the number of people on Walking Street. Nothing like the past and if there isn't more visitors, I don't see how these bars can survive. A / see is different but I still like it. The barfines were anywhere from $3500 - $6000 pesos. I only barfined three girls with the highest price of $5500 pesos. One was $5000 and the last at $4000. Only the highest price chick didn't like to do any kind of BJ. I know from past reviews that it's hard to find good looking women here. Maybe my taste is different because I didn't have that problem, neither did my friend. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=QuackUp;2888909]The other bars, I forgot the names so sorry about that. Other than the one girl who didn't want to do a BJ, everyone else was good and no runners.[/QUOTE]Another excellent trip report; good intel. Another pic goodie for the gents.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2888987]And does anyone expect all this to happen in the lifetime of anyone on this board? How long has Clark been open? And still just a handful of daily flights in a huge terminal building. Our Shit hole isn't getting better infrastructure any time soon.[/QUOTE]Not in my lifetime. My demise will probably be before AC's. Enjoying while I can.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2888992]Not in my lifetime. My demise will probably be before AC's. Enjoying while I can.[/QUOTE]Unless you are going to die in the next 3-4 years you will see this happen.

Malolos, Bulacan station is the end of the line for Phase one, they have already broke ground on the Clark Phase 2 phase in 2022, moving out squatters one of the biggest hurdles.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLEN1uPtPW4[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4do9l4dmhM[/URL]

The Malolos, Bulacan station is halfway to AC and that station is mostly completed should be operational some time in 2025 or 2026. PNR Clark Phase 2 should be completed by 2027-2028. Much further along than you think this is.

Phase 2 updates.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYdXDXXN4A4[/URL]

Hi MM, thanks, you are correct, the name of the bar was Soya. Dollhouse used to be one of my favorites also. Maybe it was just the timing. Anyways, I still enjoy my trips to A / see and finding new clubs with hot young girls is always fun.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2889054]Unless you are going to die in the next 3-4 years you will see this happen.

Malolos, Bulacan station is the end of the line for Phase one, they have already broke ground on the Clark Phase 2 phase in 2022, moving out squatters one of the biggest hurdles.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLEN1uPtPW4[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4do9l4dmhM[/URL]

The Malolos, Bulacan station is halfway to AC and that station is mostly completed should be operational some time in 2025 or 2026. PNR Clark Phase 2 should be completed by 2027-2028. Much further along than you think this is.

Phase 2 updates.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYdXDXXN4A4[/URL][/QUOTE]My apologies. I did not realize what those concrete pillars near CRK was for. Dumb ass me thought they might be putting in a skyway for cars! So in a few years I can take the high speed rail from NAIA to CRK and then by car to AC. My life expectancy should be able to experience that. I will keep my friends and family contacts in case of AC's demise.

One thing good about friends and family plan is someone is always coming of age.

[QUOTE=QuackUp;2888909]Clubs that open later.
Something King, or King something. Above average. This club is not on walking street and only found it when we were looking for a place to eat. At the time we went during the day, I would be happy with 80% of the girls.
.[/QUOTE]I think the bar is Star King. Its on a back street near Walking St. I've never been in but maybe I should take a look next time.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2888952]I believe the Koreans are such a big factor now in the Clark / Pampanga business market that the Korean Chamber of Commerce would have a big say in things. Don't doubt they don't have financial clout. Look at the number of flights between CRK and South Korea, mostly businessmen. Outside of AC Korean tourist are a big market in Boracay and Cebu / Alona. Probably other places too. I have witnessed them here.

AC will still survive. Newbies are arriving daily from the provinces.[/QUOTE]AC is Korean dominated these days for sure. Probably 75% of bars are Korean owned and bashing Koreans seems to be a popular topic because they are said to cause barfine inflation etc. I have to say though I've had plenty of good times in Korean bars including Soya, Bacarra, 123, Viking, SS etc. The Koreans are weird and goofy with their flip flops and shoulder bags but at least they are investing in WS.

Many of the western owned bars are in decline. Bodyshop is on its last legs and as for Doghouse, sorry Dollhouse, its pretty weak.

The Koreans can be a bit freaky though. I know a girl from Soya bar. The Koreans walk in and barfine five girls, get in a van and drive to Bataan. They get on a boat and go out a mile or so offshore. They tell all the girls to get naked and parade around the boat. Then they tell one girl they want a live sex show and they will pay her 20,000 pesos to get fucked while the others watch. But she said hell no, take me back to shore. Then the girls said times up guys, take us back to Angeles, which they did.

I honestly think Korean influence has peaked though. The Korean economy might be in decline now as their birth rate is the lowest in the world. Apart from Samsung and Blackpink they don't have much going on.

[QUOTE=Pussycat123;2889430]I think the bar is Star King. Its on a back street near Walking St. I've never been in but maybe I should take a look next time.[/QUOTE]That's probably right. I forgot to mention that it's really close to the Queens Hotel. We went during the afternoon shift after having lunch. The girls were young and very cute. We spoke with four girls and two were 18 yo and two were 19 yo. Yes, if you get a chance, check it out and hopefully you can find what you are looking for there.