Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2346378]Luna Lunera has a condom fee.[/QUOTE]His experience was at a casa en Centro.

[QUOTE=KryptoKnight;2346454]First let me say, and you can verify from my posts, I am a long time monger in second world countries. Thailand 15 times. Bali, Vietnam, Laos. Lived in Dubai 12 years. For some context I am a white American, 58 years old.


That's my first day in Medellin. I do hope my posts get better but I am not optimistic.[/QUOTE]It will get better, hopefully. Everyone is different. Not sure what your budget or taste is. There is something for everyone in Medellin so you do have options. There are a lot of nice hotels and apartments around the city. There are also different p4 p options.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2346460] $35 per night is a lot of freakin money for downtown. Most of us pay like $15. Hotel Nutibara and others I have read on here more times than I can count.[/QUOTE]Hotel Nutibara is listed on Trip Advisor for Monday at between $31 and $35. How do you get it for $15?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2346460] Welcome to Latin America. You are not getting all of that heat and AC and plush linen stuff unless you are staying in a big foreign chain hotel like Marriott. [/QUOTE]I stay in lower end hotels in Asia, $25 a night, not Marriotts, they all have had things like beds your feet do not hang off of, a simple glass in the room and room safes. I don't think expecting a glass to drink from is asking for a pot of Marriott gold.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2346460] Go to the grocery store to buy a glass. [/QUOTE]Now I am beginning to understand just how cheap and willing to apologize some people here are, they are willing to say that a hotel should not even have a what? 50 cent glass to drink from in the room? Thank you, you have confirmed my suspicions.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2346460] I think most of us that swear by downtown are able to speak Spanish and know how to navigate the place. If someone was brand new to Latin America and did not speak Spanish then I probably would not recommend downtown to stay. Most foreigners that do not speak Spanish will stay in Poblado and maybe to go the casas like New Life during the day. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the confirmation but it is frustrating, I don't want to hang in Poblado. Again I made lots of efforts to speak Spanish, I do speak basic, I work with people from Central America. I did have Google translate and attempted to use it. I don't want to go to tourist areas. I don't go to tourist areas other places I have mongered. Thailand, Vietnam, Bali, Laos, Dubai (Where I went to the cheapest clubs) sounds like you are saying if you are not fluent in in Spanish and you don't want to go monger with stupid tourists give Medellin a miss? And what about the extreme poor quality of the women in the Veracruz area? Did I just have bad luck on my 2 hour walk? Or are you just willing to settle for price over quality. That is an honest quewstion I am not trying to insult you. Did I have bad luck? I am willing to try again, but I want minimum a 7 or what's the point. I saw mostly 5 and below today.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2346460] Now it is night time. Head out to the strip clubs. Barra Ejecutiva, Maracaibo, and Conejitas. Those places are relatively cheap as well. But as I have said before, still negotiate.[/QUOTE]I appreciate that, I am too angry tonight, I have not even had dinner because I had to leave a restaurant near my hotel because they became annoyed I didn't speak fluent Spanish. I will get a good night's sleep and try to clear my extremely pissed off brain and start over tomorrow. In case you didn't notice I have anger management issues. Thank you for your insights. Sadly I might have to go the tourist route but that is not what I came here for.

Everyone is different. I for one do not care at all for the El Centro scene. You don't have to go to Poblado or pay the ridiculous prices the girls ask at Parque Lleras. I stay at Arbnb places in Laureles where it is a safer and a you can actually walk around and listen to music and go out partying with your girl without any issues at night. I use the internet social medias for contacts. Krypto, I recommend you look into Laureles.

I stayed at the Hotel Botero in el Centro and had the same issue, the air conditioning was not working and no refridgerator and one of the windows was broken. When I complained about how hot it was in the room during the day they gave me a portable fan which did not help at all. It is not safe to walk at night in El Centro whereas Laureles is much much more cleaner and safer.

for what it is worth , I am fluent in Spanish.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2346463]His experience was at a casa en Centro.[/QUOTE]

Had a spectacular multi-hour session at Aiffe a few days ago.

Arrived early.

Picked Kelly. Nicest attitude of the five shown. She likes to party so we started. 30 kcop for chupa sin condon, negotiated 70 kcop total for chupa and anal.

After hour #1 was up, we moved to the larger room up front and Kelly brought two girls in and we picked one to join our mix, Angie. Another party girl.

After hour #2 was up, Kelly was dismissed and Angie stayed on for another two hours of party. Everything on the menu, BBBJ, BBFS, anal, A2 M, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118][CodeWord118][/url], etc.

6-7 cervezas, a bottle of ron. Think my total damage was 500-600 kcop. Not bad imo for a great memoria, una chimba.

[QUOTE=TyDown;2346461]Yeah, I agree. I did my own research and had a great time in Colombia. El Pablado!! Will be back![/QUOTE]Poblado has a lot to offer.

[QUOTE=KryptoKnight;2346472]

Now I am beginning to understand just how cheap and willing to apologize some people here are, they are willing to say that a hotel should not even have a what? 50 cent glass to drink from in the room? Thank you, you have confirmed my suspicions.

[/QUOTE]Centro sounds like the area for you if you want to stay in a non touristy P4 P zone.

Outside of Centro you would probably have to take a cab or if you have extra time you can take the metro subway to Centro.

There are plenty of areas where you won't see any tourists, but you will have to commute for p4 p unless you do online / social media and have them come to you. Most tourists stay in El Poblado and Laureles.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2346488]Centro sounds like the area for you if you want to stay in a non touristy P4 P zone.

Outside of Centro you would probably have to take a cab or if you have extra time you can take the metro subway to Centro.

There are plenty of areas where you won't see any tourists, but you will have to commute for p4 p unless you do online / social media and have them come to you. Most tourists live in El Poblado and Laureles.[/QUOTE]I have over 80 FB adds and of those 30 what's app numbers already I am about to use, but I was hoping to avoid the much higher costs as El centro was made to sound like the "same thing" without the cost.

I've been working on FB for close to a month before my trip and have had very near daily conversations with some of the contacts (using google translate). Their photos look good, let's see if it's all real, but the cost is significantly higher then the prices quoted by experienced members here for Centro chicas. I have had several get angry when I request 150,000 for 1 hour.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;2346409]What type of COP bills do most of you keep on you in Medellin? 1 mil or 20 mil bills or something?

I get that it varies depending on what you're planning to do with it but I just meant on average. What type of COP bills are there?

In America, most people keep 20's in cash and some 5's and 10's for example.

Also, do these casas give change back or will they just keep any change as a tip?[/QUOTE]For normal run of the mill purchases, keep 2, 5, 10, and 20 mil bills. Very few of the taxis and small shops / restaurants will have change for 50 mil (or they say they don't have change). I always carry a few 50's because that is what you get from the ATM's, but smaller bills are better.

The casas will give you change.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2346480]Everyone is different. I for one do not care at all for the El Centro scene. You don't have to go to Poblado or pay the ridiculous prices the girls ask at Parque Lleras. I stay at Arbnb places in Laureles where it is a safer and a you can actually walk around and listen to music and go out partying with your girl without any issues at night. I use the internet social medias for contacts. Krypto, I recommend you look into Laureles.

I stayed at the Hotel Botero in el Centro and had the same issue, the air conditioning was not working and no refridgerator and one of the windows was broken. When I complained about how hot it was in the room during the day they gave me a portable fan which did not help at all. It is not safe to walk at night in El Centro whereas Laureles is much much more cleaner and safer.

for what it is worth , I am fluent in Spanish.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the insight. I will look into Laureles tomorrow.

[QUOTE=KryptoKnight;2346491]I have over 80 FB adds and of those 30 what's app numbers already I am about to use, but I was hoping to avoid the much higher costs as El centro was made to sound like the "same thing" without the cost.

I've been working on FB for close to a month before my trip and have had very near daily conversations with some of the contacts (using google translate). Their photos look good, let's see if it's all real, but the cost is significantly higher then the prices quoted by experienced members here for Centro chicas. I have had several get angry when I request 150,000 for 1 hour.[/QUOTE]For what you are spending for that hotel, you could probably get a nice airbnb with a full kitchen around town or a much nicer hotel. Besides FB, you got Tinder, photoprepagos, mileroticos and several dozen more online options. 150,000 shouldn't be hard to obtain.

[QUOTE=KryptoKnight;2346491]I have over 80 FB adds and of those 30 what's app numbers already I am about to use, but I was hoping to avoid the much higher costs as El centro was made to sound like the "same thing" without the cost.

I've been working on FB for close to a month before my trip and have had very near daily conversations with some of the contacts (using google translate). Their photos look good, let's see if it's all real, but the cost is significantly higher then the prices quoted by experienced members here for Centro chicas. I have had several get angry when I request 150,000 for 1 hour.[/QUOTE]I know you want to plan everything down to a tee, but it doesn't work like that. You can do some broad planning, but you have to be fluid with your plans as they may not go as expected.

I suggest you don't talk too much about price till you are there. They will grandstand now, of course, and try to get you to pay up. The truth is 150 k is a fair price there. If they ask, it is Ok to throw in taxi money, and if you are super pleased a small propina.

One other useful trick is to get a local number, then message them on whatsapp and all of a sudden your 150 k will be a good rate.

North american whatsapp numbers make them expect more.

On the day you are interested throw out what you want and what you are prepared to pay, and if its going nowhere just move to the next one. You said you have an 80 long list. You might want to check out a casa, a strip club, might run into a nice chick on the street, you just never know what will happen.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2346263]1. New Life rooms are clean.

2. What is a "fairly safe area?" Unless you prefer to walk around the block instead of going inside the club, the inside of the club is a fairly safe area. Playmates Bar Show is named "Conejitas."

I was down to Club Maracaibo and Barra Ejecutiva last night. Had my Uber drop me off a block away to avoid hassles with taxi drivers. Walked up and waited outside for 20 minutes for another monger. Nobody bothered me. There was even a young child, whose parents are street vendors, playing on the sidewalk.

Might as well review them too. Just did a walk through of Barra Ejecutiva before sitting in Maracaibo. There were a couple who were doable in my opinion. Maracaibo had more girls and a few were very nice. There were also several who were way out of my weight class. Not very crowded in either club.[/QUOTE]So basically even though people generally advise to stay out of El Centro at night you're saying it's safe as long as you take a uber to & from and not walk around? Also, you didn't tell me if for the hour price at the casa I can cum twice and what's the price at new life for 1 HR where I cum twice?

[QUOTE=KryptoKnight;2346472]Thanks for the confirmation but it is frustrating, I don't want to hang in Poblado. Again I made lots of efforts to speak Spanish, I do speak basic, I work with people from Central America. I did have Google translate and attempted to use it. I don't want to go to tourist areas. I don't go to tourist areas other places I have mongered. Thailand, Vietnam, Bali, Laos, Dubai (Where I went to the cheapest clubs) sounds like you are saying if you are not fluent in in Spanish and you don't want to go monger with stupid tourists give Medellin a miss? And what about the extreme poor quality of the women in the Veracruz area? Did I just have bad luck on my 2 hour walk? Or are you just willing to settle for price over quality. That is an honest quewstion I am not trying to insult you. Did I have bad luck? I am willing to try again, but I want minimum a 7 or what's the point. I saw mostly 5 and below today.[/QUOTE]IMO, you have seen what El Centro offers. There are a few attractive ladies there sometimes, but you have to look over a lot of 5's and below to find one. Finding a decent streetwalker at a decent price anywhere in the Medellin area is extremely difficult.

My suggestion is to get on the Metro and go to the San Antonia station. Get off and get on the train that goes to San Javier. You don't have to pay again as long as you don't go through the turnstile. Get off of that train at Estadio (3rd stop). Walk down LA 70 (you're see which way to go once you are out of the station) and check out some hotels on that street. That street is noisy at night on the weekends, but it is safe. You can go out almost anytime and find restaurants and sidewalk vendors to get a variety of food. Once you have found a suitable hotel, then start working Facebook contacts. I think you will find the ladies are much more willing to go to Laureles than to El Centro. For new ladies on Facebook, I offer 150 mil and taxi one way. In many years of doing that, I have had maybe two ladies that got an attitude about that offer. Some will ask for more, but we usually find a compromise. My experience has been that at least 95 percent of the ladies use recent, real photos of themselves.

Good luck in your endeavors. Once you get acclimated to Medellin, I think you will like it better than the Far East.

[QUOTE=KryptoKnight;2346472]Hotel Nutibara is listed on Trip Advisor for Monday at between $31 and $35. How do you get it for $15?

I stay in lower end hotels in Asia, $25 a night, not Marriotts, they all have had things like beds your feet do not hang off of, a simple glass in the room and room safes. I don't think expecting a glass to drink from is asking for a pot of Marriott gold.

Now I am beginning to understand just how cheap and willing to apologize some people here are, they are willing to say that a hotel should not even have a what? 50 cent glass to drink from in the room? Thank you, you have confirmed my suspicions..[/QUOTE]Let's start with my Spanish. It's currently around 30%. 2 years ago it was at 5-10% and that's being generous. I've eaten hundreds of meals in a lot of restaurants from one end of Medellin to the other. I've never had any restaurant treat me poorly because of my poor Spanish. Part of that is attitude. I recognize going in there will be language difficulties. So I ask for a menu "una carta por favor. " If they are talking to fast, I mention my poor Spanish and ask them to speak slower "solo hablo un poco de Espanol. Habla mas despacio por favor. " If I'm not sure what the menu says, I take a picture with Google Translate and let it work it's magic. If all else fails, I point at my selection.

People in Medellin are friendly, but they're also people. If you're getting angry with them over your issue, they won't be as friendly.

Next, the hotel issues. $35 is high for El Centro. Just about all El Centro hotels are bare minimum. Room safes and air conditioning are almost impossible to find. Air conditioning is also rare in most apartments. I've lived in 2 and am staying in a third, all in upscale neighborhoods and none have had AC. Electricity is expensive here and the climate is relatively mild. It's possible to get by without AC, although the worst place to try is El Centro. Other than mid to high end hotels, about the only apartments with AC are geared towards gringos at gringo prices.

I'd also recommend settling in Laureles. Even without AC it will be more comfortable. They get a nice breeze every afternoon. From there you can use the metro to El Centro (2550 cop) daytime and use taxis at night.

For the girls, Veracruz is a crap shoot. But you're talking about spending $12. Do you really expect a supermodel for $12? I'd recommend the casas. You'll pay $17, but it's a nicer environment. It's cleaner too, if you stick with the main places. If you don't find what you want, you might have to pay a dollar or so for a presentation fee. I usually just buy a beer.

The strip clubs are another option. Typically you'll pay 80 k, about $24. The rooms are rather nasty, but you should, after 10:30, have a reasonable selection. Club Maracaibo are just a few feet apart.

I don't recommend people walk around El Centro at night. There's no need. There are only a few places to go at night and it's easier to taxi to the door.

Here's a solution, except on Sunday, for your restaurant problem. Go to Delicias Al Natural Carrera 43 #55-35. The owner Juan speaks excellent English and the food is great and cheap. It's also just a block from New Life.

Another solution is to download the Rappi or Domicilios app. You can have anything delivered for a very reasonable delivery fee.

If you have anger management issues, the best thing might be to catch the next flight out. You're probably okay in restaurants or hotels, but out in the street that can get you hurt.