Pattaya Reports

The subject of the tariff of girls in Pattaya (and elsewhere) regularly agitates the threads. It's a recurring topic. There are exactly the same debates on a French speaking monger website. The supporters tear each other apart in the same way and at the same prices as on ISG.

I think everyone is a little right.

Depending on whether we look like young Justin Bieber or an old geezer like me, we won't necessarily pay the same price. I made some gogos bars with a young Japanese a few months ago and I assure you that all the girls were absolutely crazy about him and they showed to him. Negotiating a young girl from the Sapphyr or the Palace at 500 baht for him I think it's quite possible. It is completely impossible for me.

Conversely, I too could find a junkie or a big ugly at 500 Baths on Beach road. But I won't either.

As far as I'm concerned the truth is in between. For my part I pay between minimum 1200 baths + tip for an ST in massage shop and 2000/2500 baths for an LT (which I do very rarely), never more (or only exceptionally). This is my price list. The compromise that I found between the range of girls that I like and the prices that I am ready to pay in Pattaya. But I also don't try to really negotiate unless the price seems unreasonable.

The context, the place, the state of mind, what we are looking for at this moment, the "beauty" (eminently subjective parameter) and the age of the monger and that of the girl and even the time, everything that (and undoubtedly others) are parameters that should be known and put into equation to be able to explain the prices. But we rarely know them all when we read them on a thread. I hardly ever give them either. Too subjective.

But again, I think the fair price is what we are willing to pay.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2458910]Don't hold your breath just like don't hold your breath Walking Street will be gone.[/QUOTE]At 8p, the police showed up in force at Tree Town. Four pickups full of police and a couple on motos. They shut down Soul City and left. I was expecting more. They went around and closed other venues last night. Beer Hub was closed over social distancing, according to rumor.

[URL]https://thepattayanews.com/2020/06/17/pattaya-police-warn-if-your-primary-business-is-selling-alcohol-or-violating-social-distancing-you-will-be-shut-restaurant-license-or-not/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2458954]Did you see the girls fight?[/QUOTE]I did Not.

[QUOTE=Pimpampoumpipo;2459212]The subject of the tariff of girls in Pattaya (and elsewhere) regularly agitates the threads. It's a recurring topic. There are exactly the same debates on a French speaking monger website. The supporters tear each other apart in the same way and at the same prices as on ISG.

I think everyone is a little right.

Depending on whether we look like young Justin Bieber or an old geezer like me, we won't necessarily pay the same price. I made some gogos bars with a young Japanese a few months ago and I assure you that all the girls were absolutely crazy about him and they showed to him. Negotiating a young girl from the Sapphyr or the Palace at 500 baht for him I think it's quite possible. It is completely impossible for me.

Conversely, I too could find a junkie or a big ugly at 500 Baths on Beach road. But I won't either.

As far as I'm concerned the truth is in between. For my part I pay between minimum 1200 baths + tip for an ST in massage shop and 2000/2500 baths for an LT (which I do very rarely), never more (or only exceptionally). This is my price list. The compromise that I found between the range of girls that I like and the prices that I am ready to pay in Pattaya. But I also don't try to really negotiate unless the price seems unreasonable..[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you. I never found girls less 1000. I'm 38 and good looking. But usually I pay girls between 1000 to maximum 3000. And I do always BBFS + CIP.

I feel it comes down to the situation the girl finds herself in at any given time, that is how badly she needs money and also how easy it for her to get tricks.

If because of her looks and age she gets very little action needs money she will go for 500 baht. Why go home empty handed especially if the "John' seems convivial and maybe offers to take her for a meal first. Also possible she could be a little horny.

On the other hand a good looking girl who can get easily 2 k plus because she checks all the boxes is extremely unlikely to fuck for 500. Not saying it hasn't ever happened and will be more likely where the John is familiar with the local situation but in my experience over 20 years here the old adage applies most of the time you get what you pay for.

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I did Not.[/QUOTE]Excuse me if I meddle with something that doesn't concern me but there was also another interesting question asked by Allover: "Were they fighting over you? I am also interested in the answer.

[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2458954]Did you see the girls fight?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2459213]At 8p, the police showed up in force at Tree Town. Four pickups full of police and a couple on motos. They shut down Soul City and left. I was expecting more. They went around and closed other venues last night. Beer Hub was closed over social distancing, according to rumor.

[URL]https://thepattayanews.com/2020/06/17/pattaya-police-warn-if-your-primary-business-is-selling-alcohol-or-violating-social-distancing-you-will-be-shut-restaurant-license-or-not/[/URL]

I did Not.[/QUOTE]Like I said I wouldn't hold my breath this seems a bit standard to me to note just my opinion. I called it show and tell this is what this government is all about and it so calls leaders in town and the province of Chon Buri. It won't continue for very long they are true to their M. O. In the beginning but never there in the end. Just like their own law about riding in the back of a pickup truck.

You got groups foreigners who like to push the envelope where it is clearly noted you got to be a restaurant first then you can serve liquor. Then you take a place like Beer Hub who has the license for the restaurant but not know to serve food has his paperwork in place but violating social distancing? Look around you got to laugh. I think there was a Youtube video of the manager walking around filming why was he closed when all this other stuff was happening maybe because he is associated with the Nightwish group although their leader has some influence he has also made a lot of distractors. The BIB pick and chose their targets for a reason.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2458741]You can always put me on your Ignore list and then you can complain about how old, fat, ugly and unskilled the women are in the oilies and massage shops you keep returning to without distraction.[/QUOTE]Don't worry! All the men fuck ladies bareback now in Bangkok, Pattaya or PP. Even girls don't ask condoms anymore! And when they ask us to put condoms, it's just because they want more money! I remember a very sexy girl in soi 6 in bar Angels play, she asked me before we go room if I've condoms! I said NO! And she told me she had condoms! And after shower and many kisses, and after I lick her pussy long time! I put my dick directly inside her pussy and she told me I can fuck her without condom but I must give her 500 more! I said OK and I come inside her pussy!

[QUOTE=Gilolo;2459256]Don't worry! All the men fuck ladies bareback now in Bangkok, Pattaya or PP. Even girls don't ask condoms anymore! And when they ask us to put condoms, it's just because they want more money! I remember a very sexy girl in soi 6 in bar Angels play, she asked me before we go room if I've condoms! I said NO! And she told me she had condoms! And after shower and many kisses, and after I lick her pussy long time! I put my dick directly inside her pussy and she told me I can fuck her without condom but I must give her 500 more! I said OK and I come inside her pussy![/QUOTE]Ah yes I remember! This is the one I fucked just before you. I had a warm pee.

[QUOTE=Gilolo;2459256]Don't worry! All the men fuck ladies bareback now in Bangkok, Pattaya or PP. Even girls don't ask condoms anymore! And when they ask us to put condoms, it's just because they want more money! I remember a very sexy girl in soi 6 in bar Angels play, she asked me before we go room if I've condoms! I said NO! And she told me she had condoms! And after shower and many kisses, and after I lick her pussy long time! I put my dick directly inside her pussy and she told me I can fuck her without condom but I must give her 500 more! I said OK and I come inside her pussy![/QUOTE]Yes, I realize a "go with the flow in the room" approach can often turn out to be a BBFS+CIP session. I don't know about "all" girls agreeing to it at crunch time with or without an offer of extra money. I certainly have had plenty of girls still say No to it in the room at any price and mean it.

However, I am generally trying to achieve a certain result that is quite different from what I typically read here regarding getting a BBFS+CIP session with a girl, paid or free, and it does not fit a "go with the flow in the room" approach.

See, my usual goal is to secure an upfront agreement from the girl to provide it to me before we walk away together toward my room, even before we meet in person in the case of a dating site or online first encounter.

What I am trying to avoid and am willing to pay extra to avoid is more than merely avoiding wearing a condom (a no go for sex with me). I am actually trying to avoid any further discussion about it in the room or at crunch time no matter how brief, fleeting, non confrontational and eventually agreeble to it that brief discussion at crunch time might turn out to be.

I don't even want to hear the word "condom" uttered in the room. I want all of that settled outside or online before we take a single step toward my room together.

That adds a spin to the mission that I don't think many other punters attempt. And good for them for not requiring it.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2459325]Yes, I realize a "go with the flow in the room" approach can often turn out to be a BBFS+CIP session. I don't know about "all" girls agreeing to it at crunch time with or without an offer of extra money. I certainly have had plenty of girls still say No to it in the room at any price and mean it.

However, I am generally trying to achieve a certain result that is quite different from what I typically read here regarding getting a BBFS+CIP session with a girl, paid or free, and it does not fit a "go with the flow in the room" approach.[/QUOTE]But you even don't need to ask the girl before that you want fuck her bareback. Usually if you re nice, treat them good, they don t ask you to put condoms.

And sometimes and it s very funny, but you already fuck them bareback and during the act, the lady just say "you don t want put condom?" LOL.

And you just answer you don t like because you re not horny with condoms and they let you fuck them bareback!

You know girls don t care now to use condoms!

But they care to use a mask because of Covid 19? LOL.

And I remember before each time I used thai condoms, the condom was broken after use.

I fucked so many sexy ladies in SOI 6 in bars Wicked, Jungle bar, Avarice, where Angels play, Sex in the city and in gogos in soi LK.

And I don t speak about the girls in Bangkok and Phnom Penh.

[QUOTE=Gilolo;2459339]But you even don't need to ask the girl before that you want fuck her bareback. Usually if you re nice, treat them good, they don t ask you to put condoms.

And sometimes and it s very funny, but you already fuck them bareback and during the act, the lady just say "you don t want put condom?" LOL.

And you just answer you don t like because you re not horny with condoms and they let you fuck them bareback!

You know girls don t care now to use condoms!

But they care to use a mask because of Covid 19? LOL.

And I remember before each time I used thai condoms, the condom was broken after use.

I fucked so many sexy ladies in SOI 6 in bars Wicked, Jungle bar, Avarice, where Angels play, Sex in the city and in gogos in soi LK.

And I don t speak about the girls in Bangkok and Phnom Penh.[/QUOTE]"And sometimes and it s very funny, but you already fuck them bareback and during the act, the lady just say "you don t want put condom?" LOL.

And you just answer you don t like because you re not horny with condoms and they let you fuck them bareback!"
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Yep, that would already be 100% more conversation in the room and in my bed about condoms than I am interested in having anymore with any ladies.

To me, it would be well worth 500-1000 baht more in an upfront negotiation to avoid even that much of a conversation about condoms in the room even if not negotiating anything at all upfront meant the girl would accept 700 baht for ST! LOL.

Your record of success in getting BBFS+CIM is much, much higher than mine. I assure you I am nice to every girl I take. But many ladies I have chosen have gasped in shock, stopped everything cold, put their hand over their pussy, closed their legs or wiggled away in retreat as far along as at the very moment of penetration after an otherwise lovely, happy and fun time together leading right up to it.

And then they have refused to change their mind for any amount of additional money. Well, I've never offered as much as 5,000 baht more or anything like that.

That includes many girls I have chosen in Pattaya over the years.

But, by far, most of my mongering in Thailand is in Bangkok. And, frankly, I think I can count on just the fingers and not the thumb of one hand the number of girls in Pattaya I see and engage with on a typical trip there that I would be inspired to go through any hassle at all to fuck for more than 700 baht as it is. So I am probably passing up dozens of offers each day I spend in Pattaya that would no doubt lead to a no conversation BBFS+CIP.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2459390]
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Your record of success in getting BBFS+CIM is much, much higher than mine.
...[/QUOTE]Of course, I meant to type BBFS+CIP there 😁

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2459238]I feel it comes down to the situation the girl finds herself in at any given time, that is how badly she needs money and also how easy it for her to get tricks.

If because of her looks and age she gets very little action needs money she will go for 500 baht. Why go home empty handed especially if the "John' seems convivial and maybe offers to take her for a meal first. Also possible she could be a little horny.

On the other hand a good looking girl who can get easily 2 k plus because she checks all the boxes is extremely unlikely to fuck for 500. Not saying it hasn't ever happened and will be more likely where the John is familiar with the local situation but in my experience over 20 years here the old adage applies most of the time you get what you pay for.[/QUOTE]You sure? You sure you sure?

500 is a lot of money. Even for a hot Babygirl girl.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2459413]Of course, I meant to type BBFS+CIP there 😁[/QUOTE]Maybe you're not lucky with ladies. Ladies never ask me to wear condoms! I'm just very nice guy with them, I treat them well, like if they were my true girlfriend! I even say them I'd love to fucl them very often, each time I come Pattaya! I love to kiss them, to lick their pussy during 20 minutes minimum and usually they let me fuck them bareback! And each time I come inside their pussy! They love that! They're just scare to be pregnant! LOL.

Let's come back to Earth and look at the timeline below from TF.

The screenshot was taken one hour after I messaged the girl. She advertised 1 m75 which is tall by the standard of Thai girls on the game.

Only a percentage of girls I message on TF bother to reply. Another percentage of those who reply do not read my reply to their own initial reply. She was still online when I did the screenshot but she is now offline. It is difficult to say whether this particular girl was ready to accept my counteroffer of 1500 as she didn't even read it. Indeed had I accepted her offer of 2000 she wouldn't have read it either. She doesn't even qualify so far as a girl I can fuck ST for 2000.