Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2940260]Blood Red likes to push people's buttons and he's pretty damn good at it. Based on his serious posts, he'd like to see a cease fire along the current lines of control in Ukraine that leads to a permanent peace and security for Ukraine. And the reality is that's probably the best Ukraine can hope for.[/QUOTE]The guy is completely unhinged and deaf to any critique of the Russians.

We all want peace in Ukraine, what we don't want is "a win" for Putin, and more Orc aggression in Europe further down the line as they go unpunished for stealing sovereign land and warmongering.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2940256]Wouldn't it be better to see European and other western money going to alleviate poverty and build up the economy in Ukraine, through EU membership or otherwise, instead of to wage war. Sounding like a broken record, the two sides should negotiate peace and get this behind them. I disagree with you and Blood Red. I don't think there's going to be a winner.[/QUOTE]We can pretty much ignore the rabid babbling from BloodRed, however I do agree that we will need to rebuild Ukraine and help it's people.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2940301]
The LAND BRIDGE was built around 2022 or around that time. So, if Ukraine takes the Kerch bridge out, Russia still has the land bridge and the ferry routes to supply Crimea.
[/QUOTE]Enlighten me, please, dear Guru.

Which LAND BRIDGE are you talking about here?

The NEW one, the Russians are still trying to connect to the old train route from Donezk to Simferopol?

BTW, not so many ferry ports with suitable installations available on Crimea, on the Eastern side. Needs ferries, too; to be sunk.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2940272]I don't think Ukraine is feeling that. I know it seems inconceivably remote to you; however, I think you should also try imagining complete Russian army collapse as a thought experiment. Tell me, at a minimum, how you think Russia will continue to resupply Crimea?[/QUOTE]I'm not sure I understand the question. In the inconceivably remote event the Russian army collapsed, then Russia couldn't resupply Crimea. Will Russia leave pre-2014 Ukrainian territory like the USA left Afghanistan or Vietnam, after being worn down by a long war? Unlikely in my view, under the current Russian administration. The next Russian election isn't until 2030.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2940375]Unlikely in my view, under the current Russian administration. The next Russian election isn't until 2030.[/QUOTE]And we already know what the result of that "election" is.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2940375]I'm not sure I understand the question. In the inconceivably remote event ...[/QUOTE]The problem with the unimaginable is that it's difficult to imagine.

[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;2940366]Enlighten me, please, dear Guru.

Which LAND BRIDGE are you talking about here?

The NEW one, the Russians are still trying to connect to the old train route from Donezk to Simferopol?

BTW, not so many ferry ports with suitable installations available on Crimea, on the Eastern side. Needs ferries, too; to be sunk.[/QUOTE]Is it really that hard for you to understand what land bridge means? I'll break it down for you. It's the connection by land of Crimea and the 4 new territories. So Crimea can now be supplied by land route as well, and yes the train network. In 2014 we just had the ferry route, now we have land bridge plus the Kerch bridge. So, Crimea is in good hands, do not worry and stop dreaming.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2940274]I decided to follow advice from Comrade Pinoccio and "stop being a lazy fuck". [/QUOTE]But you still failed at reading comprehension which is not a surprise since you have a third grade education. I said to stop being a lazy fuck AND to follow independent news media and not just keep jerking off to the pathetic biased dishonest western mainstream media. I hope it's clear this time. Xpartan.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2940395]But you still failed at reading comprehension which is not a surprise since you have a third grade education. I said to stop being a lazy fuck...[/QUOTE]Ad hominem attacks always means a losing argument.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2940266]Wow. That's huge! How about you pause your typing diarrhea and spot us a link?

No, I didn't, It just went over your head. I described my feelings about Bandera in vivid details.

You, on the other hand, have repeatedly failed to justify referring to the nation of 40 million as "Banderite". Anything?

On a serious note, Igor-.

You've got to get your act together. This foolish bickering is not going to impress your superiors, and your sophistry skills suck dick, to put it mildly. Watch Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro. Study what they do. I mean, these dudes are not 100% sophists in that classic sort of way, but man, do they know how to manipulate suckers! You need to grow professionally, man, or find another vocation like, I don't know, an engineer or something, LOL.[/QUOTE]Once again you fail at reading comprehension. I know you gave your opinion on the Nazi Bandera, I asked "how you feel about the fact that Bandera is a national hero in Ukraine and if that bothers you'. I hope the question is clear now, Xpartan. Do try to answer rather than weaseling your way out of it, yet again.

Here's a foto of Zaluzhny posing in front of his hero, the Nazi Bandera.

[URL]https://www.wsws.org/asset/9ff3eec6-70f6-487a-8068-caa571482c6a?rendition=image1280[/URL]

Foto of Zaluzhny wearing a bracelet with the Nazi swastika. Try to zoom in on the bracelet. If you lack the intellect to do this, do let me know, I can help you out being the good hearted kind man that I am.

[URL]https://www.newsbharati.com/Encyc/2022/10/10/FeZ69HAWIAEe_uR_202210101210346496_H@@IGHT_0_W@@IDTH_600.jpg[/URL]

[QUOTE=VinDici;2940340]Time to be schooled.

Very expensive solution that can easily be blockaded by Ukraine now that the Black Sea Fleet is disabled.[/QUOTE]Good luck, and keep dreaming.

[QUOTE=VinDici;2940340]

Kerch bridge will be destroyed, it's already suffering serious structual integrity problems. Once UA develops their own special purpose missiles, they will get the job done, and the whole world will cheer.[/QUOTE]It can be destroyed or put out of commission, sure, I agree with you. But the consequences afterwards for the Nazi Kiev regime will be unimaginable and the corrupt actor will be a dead man.

[QUOTE=VinDici;2940340]

And you have seen what happens to large Z supply convoys in Ukraine. This will not be economically feasible.

I agree that UA has more problems finding manpower than the Orcs, but they will still win. They are fighting for their right to exist and not be ruled over by the Orcs.

Your rabid support for the Orcs is unhinged.[/QUOTE]Your racism is disgusting.

Ukraine is winning. LOL.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2940395]But you still failed at reading comprehension which is not a surprise since you have a third grade education. I said to stop being a lazy fuck AND to follow independent news media and not just keep jerking off to the pathetic biased dishonest western mainstream media. I hope it's clear this time. Xpartan.[/QUOTE]Blood Red that is asking way too much. I think Xman is paid by CNN. These guys are normally wrong about just about everything, They live in a fantasy, fueled by fake news. They let their liberal views and their hatred towards Russia, interfere in making sound decisions. They're in for a big surprise when they lose the war and Ukraine is destroyed in the process.

For the record Ukraine has out performed everyone's expectations, but at what cost? Prime example they get a small PR victory, going into Russia, but again you have to ask at what is the cost and what is the advantage? Yes, in the PR world it is a small victory, but in reality they have lost so many soldiers and equipment, too basically accomplish nothing. It was a suicide mission and probably is the beginning of the end of Ukraine military. They might have equipment and money, but there will be no soldiers left, but nobody cares, especially the liberals. Ukraine is getting their ass kicked, believe what you want. Time will tell.

As usual even when Ukraine wins they lose in the long run!!

This war should have never started, not to mention Ukraine should have been negotiating from day one, but that would make way too much sense. Ukraine is finished the men are being wiped out, there will be nothing left, but why stop now.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2940392]Is it really that hard for you to understand what land bridge means? I'll break it down for you. It's the connection by land of Crimea and the 4 new territories. So Crimea can now be supplied by land route as well, [/QUOTE]Obviously, you have no idea how narrow the connections by land to Crimea are, in reality. Which drastically limits the possible supply. But there could be more ferries, of course.

In those shallow waters.

And how bad and narrow the few roads are, over there. In reality, only serious supplies via the train route, now under construction.

Fortunately, I have seen the Red fleet in Sevastopol already a few times, the former submarine base and "Z". Which had a very special meaning during Ukrainian Crimea.

The term of office of the Rada, according to the Constitution of Ukraine is 5 years. The Verkhovna Rada of the 9th convocation began its work on August 29,2019 and after August 29,2024 the Rada becomes illegitimate or expired. Zed himself became expired illegitimate on May 21,2024.

In total since August 6, 2024 in the Kursk region the AFU lost more than 6,600 servicemen, 73 tanks, 34 infantry fighting vehicles, 62 armored personnel carriers, 432 armored combat vehicles, 201 vehicles, 45 artillery pieces, 13 multiple launch rocket system launchers, including four HIMARS and one MLRS. The amount of lost equipment is higher than during last year Rabotino push and daily losses in the region exceed all equipment losses combined along the front line.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2940301]So, if Ukraine took that out (let them try and see the Russian response, good luck Zelensky), .[/QUOTE]And what will the bad wolf Putin do pray tell? Bomb and kill more civilians? As if Putin needs an excuse to murder civilians! Cannibals don't eat lettuce.

There are no more red lines, Igor. Poof, they're gone.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2940395]But you still failed at reading comprehension which is not a surprise since you have a third grade education. I said to stop being a lazy fuck AND to follow independent news media and not just keep jerking off to the pathetic biased dishonest western mainstream media. I hope it's clear this time. Xpartan.[/QUOTE]But I did use independent media! Maybe your "independent news media" are more independent than mine? What media are you referring to, dear Igor? Links, pretty please?

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2940465]Once again you fail at reading comprehension. I know you gave your opinion on the Nazi Bandera, I asked "how you feel about the fact that Bandera is a national hero in Ukraine and if that bothers you'. I hope the question is clear now, Xpartan. Do try to answer rather than weaseling your way out of it, yet again.[/QUOTE]Gee, it's so hard to please you. I don't know, let's try this.

1. Bandera is very popular in Ukraine, especially in Western Ukraine, but he's not a national hero. That statement presumes the vast majority of Ukrainians view him positively. This is not the case.

2. Even if that were true (it isn't), what's your point?

3. Bandera was a nationalist, but not a Nazi. He was a fascist but not a Nazi. He was a totalitarian, but not a Nazi. He was a highly controversial figure, but he wasn't a Nazi. He spent two years in a German concentration camp. His fighters fought against both the Soviets and the Germans. This is your history, comrade. Learn it.

4. Weaseling is your favorite sport. I don't do propaganda, hence no reason to weasel. You, on the other hand, deal in lies. You have all reasons to weasel.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2940395]Here's a foto of Zaluzhny posing in front of his hero, the Nazi Bandera.

[URL]https://www.wsws.org/asset/9ff3eec6-70f6-487a-8068-caa571482c6a?rendition=image1280[/URL]

Foto of Zaluzhny wearing a bracelet with the Nazi swastika. Try to zoom in on the bracelet. If you lack the intellect to do this, do let me know, I can help you out being the good hearted kind man that I am.

[URL]https://www.newsbharati.com/Encyc/2022/10/10/FeZ69HAWIAEe_uR_202210101210346496_H@@IGHT_0_W@@IDTH_600.jpg[/URL][/QUOTE]Oh Igor, Igor! So you've finally produced a link. Even two links, wow!

Well, let's see.

First of, Zaluzhny should've known better. A photo with Bandera on the background -- that wasn't wise. I haven't found a proof that this photo is a fake, so for now I'll treat it as authentic.

Your second link, however, (and I'm truly sorry to upset you) is a total fake and was, most likely, produced by a member of your organization.

[URL]https://fakenews.pl/en/general/no-valerii-zaluzhnyi-commander-in-chief-of-the-armed-forces-of-ukraine-does-not-wear-a-bracelet-with-a-swastika/[/URL]

[QUOTE]On 9 October, Raheem Kassam, former adviser to Nigel Farage, one of the co-authors of Brexit, posted on his Twitter profile a photo of Valerii Zaluzhnyi, the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, with a close-up of his bracelet. In the enlarged photo, he marked one of the symbols on the bracelet and added the following caption:

NOTHING TO SEE HERE just Ukraines head of the Armed Forces wearing a diamond swastika bracelet.

His post was shared several thousand times, gaining almost 30,000 likes. The alleged swastika, however, turned out to be a graphic artifact created as a result of the enlargement of the photo, while the actual symbol depicts a Celtic knot.

Manipulation: A Celtic symbol
The photograph of General Zaluzhnyi in the false context was shared on Twitter and Facebook i.a. by Piotr Panasiuk, known for spreading anti-vaccine propaganda. The manipulation of image quality was explained by Twitter user @osmnactej. In his post, he presented a photograph of the bracelet in good quality with the Celtic Eternity Knot marked. Below, for comparison, he posted a version with deteriorated quality of the photo. As a result of compressing the graphics, a pattern resembling a swastika was created. This is a so-called artifact, that is, a side effect of compression used in order to reduce image size or change the format.[/QUOTE]And here is a twitter post dissecting the scam. Enjoy, I know how much you like Twitter.

[URL]https://twitter.com/osmnactej/status/1579212056795889664[/URL]

[QUOTE]General Valerii Zaluzhnyi (Залужний) doesn't have "svastika" on his bracelet (браслет). What might look like "svastika" is just an effect of JPEG compression.

You can reproduce the illusion at home:
1) download an up-close image of the bracelet: [/QUOTE]Any other requests?