Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=KryptoKnight;2346472]Hotel Nutibara is listed on Trip Advisor for Monday at between $31 and $35. How do you get it for $15?

I stay in lower end hotels in Asia, $25 a night, not Marriotts, they all have had things like beds your feet do not hang off of, a simple glass in the room and room safes. I don't think expecting a glass to drink from is asking for a pot of Marriott gold.

Now I am beginning to understand just how cheap and willing to apologize some people here are, they are willing to say that a hotel should not even have a what? 50 cent glass to drink from in the room? Thank you, you have confirmed my suspicions.

Thanks for the confirmation but it is frustrating, I don't want to hang in Poblado. Again I made lots of efforts to speak Spanish, I do speak basic, I work with people from Central America. I did have Google translate and attempted to use it..[/QUOTE]It appears as though Medellin and Colombia just isn't going to work for you as one of the issues is the language barrier for you, and with the Colombians being very formal and polite, it will be a problem for you if you get frustrated and anger easily. Again, and as mentioned by others, the language barrier is a big issue her versus other mongering venues, and that is a big part of the problem your having here. I have been to every single other country you have mentioned, and call tell you that in those Countries a lot of people speak English, but that is not the case in Colombia. So I wouldn't get frustrated about this because you have no control over it. Hopefully you will have some good experiences before your departure.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2346503]So basically even though people generally advise to stay out of El Centro at night you're saying it's safe as long as you take a uber to & from and not walk around? Also, you didn't tell me if for the hour price at the casa I can cum twice and what's the price at new life for 1 HR where I cum twice?[/QUOTE]Strip clubs don't like having people robbed or killed in front of their doors. It blocks traffic and is bad for business. If they let people get robbed outside the club, they won't be able to spend money inside the club. There are dozens of reports where people advise taking a taxi, at night, directly to the strip club. There's no need to walk more than a short distance.

I didn't answer your other questions because I have never done an hour at New Life or asked for 2 pops. I believe the 1 hour rate is 70 k. They have the prices posted. I also believe you usually have to negotiate the second round with the girl.

New Life doesn't make you pay up front. They charge based on how long you're in the room. Extras are negotiated directly with the girl.

[QUOTE=KryptoKnight;2346454]First let me say, and you can verify from my posts, I am a long time monger in second world countries. Thailand 15 times. Bali, Vietnam, Laos. Lived in Dubai 12 years. For some context I am a white American, 58 years old.

Today was my first trip to Medellin and my first day.

I will surely provide some posts after my visit. I thank the forum for the preparation, I have read many pages of posts.

I need some direction to salvage this trip.

Based on posts here I decided to go the El Centro route as I am not a Prima Dona and I like to save money when I am a monger not throw money in the toilet, and I don't need to hang around tourists.

That said, this is not the same as low end Thailand or Vietnam etc.

I am staying at 47 Hotel Medellin which has a 7. 8 rating on [URL]hotel.com[/URL]. $35 a night, great room pictures on the website.

I get to the hotel and here are the issues. No AC, No room safe, No closet? No dresser? No refrigerator. My feet hang off the end of the bed and I am only 5'8" No real bedsheets just a small thin sheet and blanket which I have never see in my life. I asked for a glass to drink my whisky in and they said go to the restaurant on the roof, which I did and the manager said only for restaurant. Went downstairs, hotel staff came up with me and I watched a 3 minute argument about 'I should not get a $1 dollar? Max glass but finally I got. You get the idea.

Then as discussed here you cannot go out and walk at night. The hotel was very clear. No, no,no, no too dangerous. So I am staying in a hotel where I can only go out in the day unless I go straight to a taxi. I cannot even take my phone out of my pocket without becoming some target? (As many experienced people here have said and as my hotel suggested even during the day).

I went to 3 restaurants today. All 3 the waiters were very agitated / annoyed that I did not speak fluent Spanish. They were annoyed I tried to use Google translate. One waitress went and got someone else to help me because she didn't want to use Google translate. All the waiters were visibly annoyed very quickly that I didn't speak Spanish. One restaurant I just walked out of due to them mocking me between themselves because I didn't speak Spanish.

Next I went to Veracruz area and checked out the scene, most of what I saw I would not go with for free. After walking for 2 hours took a 20 year old Venezuelan chick who was at best a 6 just to get something done, she was the best I saw and it was not good.

So I am trying to understand the mentality of people here who are so proud of El Centro, so proud that they can handle it. Is your only goal how cheap you can find pussy? Do you not mind staying in a hotel where it is too dangerous to go out and walk around at night? Do you not mind fucking very subpar pussy? Did I just have bad luck in the Veracruz area? Give it a try tomorrow and it will be better? Are my expectations just too high after mongering for so many years in Asia? Is your only goal how can I get the cheapest pussy but all the other qualities of a vacation are unimportant?

And if you mock and say, just go to the tourist area. Just go to the expensive areas. Let's be clear, that's not me, I don't want to hang out with stupid tourists who over pay I have been doing this 20+ years and that is not at all how I roll. Look at my past posts.

That's my first day in Medellin. I do hope my posts get better but I am not optimistic.[/QUOTE]Like you, I am experienced in 2nd and 3rd world countries. Last month, I stayed in El Centro but unlike you, I chose Hotel Nutibara as per Tall Man's recommendation. Everything was fantastic there. Aircon, bedsheets, breakfast, refrigerator, service, attitude, etc. Cost was just about $30 per night (best value for money I've seen anywhere). The area is dodgy at night but still manageable. During day, there are so many food walking and service options. I got fantastic haircut at barber down the street. Many casas are in walking distance and the hotel has a real charge given it's age and history dating back to 40's or around abouts. Maybe you picked the wrong hotel.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2346480]I stayed at the Hotel Botero in el Centro and had the same issue, the air conditioning was not working and no refridgerator and one of the windows was broken. When I complained about how hot it was in the room during the day they gave me a portable fan which did not help at all. It is not safe to walk at night in El Centro whereas Laureles is much much more cleaner and safer.
[/QUOTE]Hotel Botero tips:

Tell them you want a fridge and they will get you one.

Stay on as high a floor as you can, less noise, more breeze.

Stay in room on NW side of building (side opposite entrance) it will be cooler in the morning but warmer in the afternoon. But I am out of the room then usually. When in the room during the afternoon I sometimes leave the door open and get a nice breeze thru the room.

Wedge the fan in the window blowing in on the bed, it will be too cool by morning usually.

Hotel Botero seems to have lowered their prices, showing up as $15 a night at the moment on [URL]Hotel.com[/URL].

I have a lengthy review on the Botero in Forum: Colombia-Thread: Medellin Hotels and Rental Apartments, post #925, with directions to the clubs, ATM, food, etc.

[QUOTE=KryptoKnight;2346472]Hotel Nutibara is listed on Trip Advisor for Monday at between $31 and $35. How do you get it for $15?

I stay in lower end hotels in Asia, $25 a night, not Marriotts, they all have had things like beds your feet do not hang off of, a simple glass in the room and room safes. I don't think expecting a glass to drink from is asking for a pot of Marriott gold.

Now I am beginning to understand just how cheap and willing to apologize some people here are, they are willing to say that a hotel should not even have a what? 50 cent glass to drink from in the room? Thank you, you have confirmed my suspicions.

Thanks for the confirmation but it is frustrating, I don't want to hang in Poblado. Again I made lots of efforts to speak Spanish, I do speak basic, I work with people from Central America. I did have Google translate and attempted to use it. I don't want to go to tourist areas. I don't go to tourist areas other places I have mongered. Thailand, Vietnam, Bali, Laos, Dubai (Where I went to the cheapest clubs) sounds like you are saying if you are not fluent in in Spanish and you don't want to go monger with stupid tourists give Medellin a miss? And what about the extreme poor quality of the women in the Veracruz area? Did I just have bad luck on my 2 hour walk? Or are you just willing to settle for price over quality. That is an honest quewstion I am not trying to insult you. Did I have bad luck? I am willing to try again, but I want minimum a 7 or what's the point. I saw mostly 5 and below today.

I appreciate that, I am too angry tonight, I have not even had dinner because I had to leave a restaurant near my hotel because they became annoyed I didn't speak fluent Spanish. I will get a good night's sleep and try to clear my extremely pissed off brain and start over tomorrow. In case you didn't notice I have anger management issues. Thank you for your insights. Sadly I might have to go the tourist route but that is not what I came here for.[/QUOTE]I think this is an honest report and there should be a lot more of them. Lots of mongers think just like you. Your right that many of us are cheap and willing to overlook quite a bit at this destination. Lots of guys think being "cheap" is an insult but it is a badge of honor being thrifty.

This thread is filled with reports mostly about how Medellin seems to be the perfect mongering place with just a hint of social problems that can be overlooked by the seasoned traveler. It obviously isn't. If it was perfect everyone would be here.

I am sure there are many guys who's expectations were not met after their first trip or they were hustled, robbed or ripped off and they have not reported as such.

Thanks for speaking your mind and warning newbies about the trials and tribulations of mongering in Medellin, Colombia.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2346740]It appears as though Medellin and Colombia just isn't going to work for you as one of the issues is the language barrier for you, and with the Colombians being very formal and polite, it will be a problem for you if you get frustrated and anger easily. Again, and as mentioned by others, the language barrier is a big issue her versus other mongering venues, and that is a big part of the problem your having here. I have been to every single other country you have mentioned, and call tell you that in those Countries a lot of people speak English, but that is not the case in Colombia. So I wouldn't get frustrated about this because you have no control over it. Hopefully you will have some good experiences before your departure.[/QUOTE]I did not have Spanish in school and have never heard Spanish until I met some Hispanic coworkers in United States. I had a great time on my first trip. If I can spend time scouring FB and casing out P4 P places I can also at least make an effort to learn a few words. I do not think experienced mongers have issues with language. P4P is an universal unless you require all your encounters to be GFE. That is a tall order even for a native speaker.

[QUOTE=TravisMcGee;2346632]First, a big thank-you to all the members who have contributed such excellent information about MDE. I'll be going there for the first time in late August and feel well-prepared thanks to you.

I have a question about love motels in Medellin. If you don't have a car and the chica doesn't have a car, how does the check-in and meeting work? Do you get a room and then wait for the chica to arrive and have her call you? Do you wait out front and check in together? I ask because the love motels I've been to before have been located in the suburbs or rural areas; I've never been to one in an urban area where, I suspect, there is a good amount of foot traffic. Thanks for any tips you can provide.

Travis.[/QUOTE]This all depends on which Love Motel you go to. The higher end motels have a drive up gate. At the best of the best your taxi will deposit you at the door to your room. Other places, the taxi will enter the compound and a motel employee will lead you to a room.

Other motels, like many in El Centro, Mayorista and Laureles, you simply walk into the lobby and get a key.

Unless the woman is someone I'm repeating with, I won't have them meet me at the Love Motel. Instead I'll meet them at a public place and spend some time before getting in a taxi. A few times, with ones I know, I've met them outside the gate of Motel Ibiza, hopped in the taxi with them and went through the normal process.

I am gearing up for my second trip next month. Last time I stayed in Mansion for a couple of days then shifted to San Peter in Laureles for rest of 10 day trip. My biggest complaint there is the noise from the bars in the area especially from Thursday to Sunday. Otherwise, I think its a perfect location to hit up centro during the day and strip clubs plus other P4P areas in the evening. Although I really loved it for the price and location, I think the pricing has crept up in place and is close to Casacol pricing ($50). As you guys may know Casacol has apartments all over MDE including Moderetto in Laureles. I did check it out last time but did not stay there. Any reviews on Casacol places? Can anyone compare san peter with Moderatto building. Also I have read here that Laureles hotels are not P4 P friendly. Any updated info. On the Laureles area by seniors would be appreciated.

From another week in Medellin. For those who are newer, let me give you some basic facts about me so you can decide whether you want to listen to me or not.

Been visiting Medellin for 14+ years, but never lived there.

Married to Colombiana from Bogota for 9 years. Now divorced.

53 YO gringo. Spanish is functional, but not fluent.

Used to stay in Poblado. Now stay in Laureles.

While I often try to tell myself that I'm going to try the casas again, go to Veracruz, or go to Centro strip clubs, I always end up doing the same. I see a mix of regulars and new FB girls and have ventured into the non-pro arena. I could save money by going to casas, but I typically pay FB girls 150 K and taxi one way. Non-pros are not guaranteed sex, but I've had fun with some, even without banging them. My trips are not solely about sex, but enjoying myself.

At any rate, nothing earth-shattering to say about most of my sessions. I don't think any were bad. Some were great. The best one is from a girl who is average looking and skinny. But she's into it. Loves to suck her own tits and squirt the milk out of her mouth back onto her chest. Tried anal for the first time and I was happy to oblige. I don't do it often, but she likes ass play, so I knew she'd like anal after the initial pain subsided.

At any rate, on my last night I had a date with a non-pro. She has a normal job and we never talked about sex or money. We decided to go to a place I like in Aranjuez for some cocktails and shots. She asked me to pick her up (instead of her coming to me), which tells you this was more like a normal date. She lives in Villa Hermosa. So I took off in the taxi. Went through a bunch of barrios I did not know. Some of it was a little scary and I was beginning to wonder if I had made a mistake. One street something big was on fire. Passed by a couple of working girls on the corner. Both of them looked pretty hot. If I didn't have a date, I might have gotten the taxi drive to stop so I could talk to one of them.

Fortunately, when I finally got to her neighborhood in Villa Hermoso, things improved. Her house was on a nice, quiet and clean street in a nice neighborhood. She came out of the house and off we went.

Got to Aranjuez and went in. The place is not big and it was not crowded. There is a new bar right next door and it was rockin'. But I wanted to stay where we were. Good music. Combo of ranchero, villenato, salsa, etc. Good cocktails. And we could talk with some privacy. Had a nice conversation with her, although I had to work hard because she talked fast and her Spanish was not as clear as I have heard. But very sweet girl. As we drank, she loosened up. She was drinking margaritas and ordered some shots in between. She eventually warmed up a lot, much to my enjoyment. Lots of kisses and hugs and authorized touching. Fun sharing a bom-bom-bon (lollipop).

Unfortunately, it turns out that she does not often drink a lot, so toward the end of the night, she threw up. No big deal. We got in the taxi and I was going to take her home, but after about 5 minutes she told the taxitas to instead go to my apartment. We slept together, but did not have sex. Which was fine. I had a good evening. And I know that respectable Colombian women never sleep with a guy on the first date.

The point to all of this is to say that there is a lot of fun to be had in the barrios. I am not suggesting this to newbies or to anyone who knows no Spanish. But it's nice to be somewhere where you are not in the presence of a bunch of loud, drunk gringos. People are nice to me. They do not bother me. I never felt any threat (of course, I get out of the taxi and go into the bar and then leave in a taxi. I do not walk the streets). I always go with a chica, so not trolling the bars alone. It is real Colombia. Not Lleras. Give it a try.

And by the way, the total bill was 103 mil. That included 8 cocktails and 6 shots. And the waitress was hot. Good times.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2346804]And I know that respectable Colombian women never sleep with a guy on the first date.[/QUOTE]You had me up until this phrase. Maybe women that make a rule for themselves not to fuck someone on the first date are doing it for the sake of rule making and tricking themselves that they have control of themselves. But it has nothing to do with whether they are respectable or not. I have fucked tons of respectable Colombian women on the first date. People are people and people like affection and fucking.

Plus if I tell everyone I just got a respectable new girl they would probably look at me crazy and say what the fuck does that have to do with anything. Tell me when you get a rich girl or a fine ass girl; but respectable? Uhhh, Okay.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2346812]You had me up until this phrase. Maybe women that make a rule for themselves not to fuck someone on the first date are doing it for the sake of rule making and tricking themselves that they have control of themselves. But it has nothing to do with whether they are respectable or not. I have fucked tons of respectable Colombian women on the first date. People are people and people like affection and fucking.

Plus if I tell everyone I just got a respectable new girl they would probably look at me crazy and say what the fuck does that have to do with anything. Tell me when you get a rich girl or a fine ass girl; but respectable? Uhhh, Okay.[/QUOTE]I'm with you on this one. If a girl gets drunk with you on the first date, then asks to go to your apartment, the probability that she's willing to give it up is pretty high.

However, if she's drunk enough to be tossing her cookies, I'm not even sleeping in the same bed with her. Falling down drunk girls are a big turnoff and there's always the possibility that the alcohol was making all the decisions. I'd rather avoid any unpleasantness in the morning, not to mention hangover breath.

I really appreciate everyone taking the time to offer some feedback and advice, what a great website this is and Medellin has some very thoughtful posters.

I think I will focus on quality over quantity. I am about to go look at the Laurels area.

I am confident it will turn into a great trip. Even today just walking around El Centro was great because of the much more relaxed vibe on a Sunday, I truely enjoyed a 2 hour relaxing walk and meal.

A couple points, people have criticized the cost of $35 for the hotel. This is the weekend price. I see it for $29 starting Monday. I am told $15 is obtainable at Hotel Nutibara but when I search I see between $31 and $39. How do you get the $15 price?

The anger management issues were not in the restaurants, it was just how I felt when I came back to the hotel after a trying day, a flight that was delayed to a 4 AM arrival, and then waking at 8 AM unable to sleep, I knew going out would not be a good idea.

I knew I was writing an angry post but I though it important to get onto the forum how I was feeling in it's raw state rather than wait until the next day and sugar coat everything. I felt expressing my ideas honestly would be the most productive route and it proved correct. After a day of cooling off I still agree with the context of my comments.

I will reboot and post on the positive experiences I am sure I will have thanks now to all the great advise here.

Muchas Gracias!

Atta boy!

Rest and a good night sleep usually results in a fresh new perspective.

Guys are just being guys even on this site. We have to fix everything.

Some people will never ever return to Medellin or Colombia for one reason or another, but there will usually be someone trying to fix it because they should have done this or that because it works for them.

News flash! Not everyone likes chocolate, big tits or petite naive women.

[QUOTE=KryptoKnight;2346454]First let me say, and you can verify from my posts, I am a long time monger in second world countries. Thailand 15 times. Bali, Vietnam, Laos. Lived in Dubai 12 years. For some context I am a white American, 58 years old.

Today was my first trip to Medellin and my first day.

I will surely provide some posts after my visit. I thank the forum for the preparation, I have read many pages of posts.

I need some direction to salvage this trip.

Based on posts here I decided to go the El Centro route as I am not a Prima Dona and I like to save money when I am a monger not throw money in the toilet, and I don't need to hang around tourists.

That said, this is not the same as low end Thailand or Vietnam etc.

I am staying at 47 Hotel Medellin which has a 7. 8 rating on [URL]hotel.com[/URL]. $35 a night, great room pictures on the website.

I get to the hotel and here are the issues. No AC, No room safe, No closet? No dresser? No refrigerator. My feet hang off the end of the bed and I am only 5'8" No real bedsheets just a small thin sheet and blanket which I have never see in my life. I asked for a glass to drink my whisky in and they said go to the restaurant on the roof, which I did and the manager said only for restaurant. Went downstairs, hotel staff came up with me and I watched a 3 minute argument about 'I should not get a $1 dollar? Max glass but finally I got. You get the idea.

Then as discussed here you cannot go out and walk at night. The hotel was very clear. No, no,no, no too dangerous. So I am staying in a hotel where I can only go out in the day unless I go straight to a taxi. I cannot even take my phone out of my pocket without becoming some target? (As many experienced people here have said and as my hotel suggested even during the day)..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2346460]On what page did you read someone say to stay at 47 Hotel Medellin? $35 per night is a lot of freakin money for downtown. Most of us pay like $15. Hotel Nutibara and others I have read on here more times than I can count. 47 Hotel? No idea where that even is. LOL. I looked it up. You are like 1km southeast of where you should be. Nah. I would not go outside if I was staying over there either! You need to go back closer to Parque Berrio..[/QUOTE]Read Mr Ent response a few times as all of your questions are clearly stated. Again it is all about expectations, they say that an expectation is the start of resentments meaning go with little or no expectations.

And don't get frustrated because of a few minor inconveniences (IE no closet or AC in hotel), welcome to Colombia. How much time will you be in Medellin?

The Tall Man.

I can only imagine what you consider respectable. Something tells me it's not much of a standard.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2346812]You had me up until this phrase. Maybe women that make a rule for themselves not to fuck someone on the first date are doing it for the sake of rule making and tricking themselves that they have control of themselves. But it has nothing to do with whether they are respectable or not. I have fucked tons of respectable Colombian women on the first date. People are people and people like affection and fucking.

Plus if I tell everyone I just got a respectable new girl they would probably look at me crazy and say what the fuck does that have to do with anything. Tell me when you get a rich girl or a fine ass girl; but respectable? Uhhh, Okay.[/QUOTE]