FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2917506]Does anyone know the time the first morning train goes from Darmstadt to the airport, or the bus?

I have an 08:30 flight out. That means I need to be there at 06:00.[/QUOTE]Here's the Airliner bus from Darmstadt directly to the airport, 30 min direct route. Ticket is 10 e. For daytime schedules, the bus leaves at 15 and 45 past the hour starting at 4:15 from platform 11 of the bus depot adjacent to the train station. It does not service terminal 2 at the moment so you'the have to account for the time to take the shuttle from terminal 1 if you need to go there.

[URL]https://www.rmv.de/c/fileadmin/documents/PDFs/_RMV_DE/Fahrkarten/Fahrkarten_im_Ueberblick/Lokale_Fahrkartenangebote/LNO_12_Darmstadt/Da_Airliner_Faltblatt_ab231210.pdf[/URL]

But you don't really need to get there 2. 5 hours early. Yesterday I arrived at 9:20, literally walked from one end of Terminal 1 to the other starting at Zone A to get zone see airline counters in order to purchase a seat upgrade. Then walked back half way across the terminal to zone be departure document / entry point. Walked to and through the security line, then to and through passport control, and was at my gate by 9:55. Luckily my airline lounge was directly across from the gait so I even had an hour to enjoy the free booze at 10 am.

But personally I usually rent a car and make my own schedule.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2917500]

But yeah, if the men stay away, yeah, it's a wrap. The question is what can the club do about it? These new girls are set on the 200 e hour.[/QUOTE]The club could take some short term pain (less entry fees) and refuse entry to a couple of girls asking ridiculous prices in exchange for abysmal service: make an example out of them. The German forum is full of names of girls who provide horrible service and try to charge 100 or even 150 Euros for 30 minutes. Of course the club isn't allowed to dictate prices or service levels, but at the same time the club has a right to refuse entry to anyone whom they 'think will not fit in with the rest of the visitors,' similar to how they (apparently) refuse entry to men who don't speak any English or German. Girls who give the club a bad reputation and-or ruin the experience for male visitors could perhaps be a valid reason to kick out some of the worst offenders? I'm pretty sure that a man who receives a lot of complaints from the ladies, staff, or other men (for example constantly harassing girls, try to blackmail them, try to steal money from them, or causing a fight or conflicts with other guests) could be refused entry. The legal concept of [I]door policy[/I] is usually a very large grey area in most countries.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2917604]I just don't understand why customers always talk about old ugly girl such as Sylvanna and lousy service girl such as Brenda. They just don't know who Dina is. I think that Dina (2017 - 2019) is the most beautiful girl in Sharks' history. Dina was not only beautiful but also provided good services if you paid 150 EUR or more at that time.[/QUOTE]Ah yes, the good old days of Dina. Yeah Dina was nice, sexy, funny to talk to, and always provided excellent service. The only slight downside for me was her excessively fake and loud moaning, it's not really my thing, but after I jokingly said to her with a big smile "ssshhhhh Dinaaaa, you're waking everybody up!" during our second room together, she got the hint and was much quieter during subsequent rooms. No need to pay her 150 Euros, my rooms with her were usually 30 minute rooms for 50 Euros and they were a lot of fun. I genuinely hope she's doing well in retirement.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2917639]Here's the Airliner bus from Darmstadt directly to the airport, 30 min direct route. Ticket is 10 e. For daytime schedules, the bus leaves at 15 and 45 past the hour starting at 4:15 from platform 11 of the bus depot adjacent to the train station. It does not service terminal 2 at the moment so you'the have to account for the time to take the shuttle from terminal 1 if you need to go there.

[URL]https://www.rmv.de/c/fileadmin/documents/PDFs/_RMV_DE/Fahrkarten/Fahrkarten_im_Ueberblick/Lokale_Fahrkartenangebote/LNO_12_Darmstadt/Da_Airliner_Faltblatt_ab231210.pdf[/URL]

But you don't really need to get there 2. 5 hours early. Yesterday I arrived at 9:20, literally walked from one end of Terminal 1 to the other starting at Zone A to get zone see airline counters in order to purchase a seat upgrade. Then walked back half way across the terminal to zone be departure document / entry point. Walked to and through the security line, then to and through passport control, and was at my gate by 9:55. Luckily my airline lounge was directly across from the gait so I even had an hour to enjoy the free booze at 10 am.

But personally I usually rent a car and make my own schedule.[/QUOTE]I'm afraid to drive as I haven't been behind the wheel in almost 18 months LOL.

I'm going Singapore Air to the USA. Would you say that 2 hours before is enough for them?

Thanks for the link bro, I'm embarrased I couldn't find it.

Now I have to decide whether to saty at the Dormero or some place closer to the station.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2917658]The club could take some short term pain (less entry fees) and refuse entry to a couple of girls asking ridiculous prices in exchange for abysmal service: make an example out of them. The German forum is full of names of girls who provide horrible service and try to charge 100 or even 150 Euros for 30 minutes. Of course the club isn't allowed to dictate prices or service levels, but at the same time the club has a right to refuse entry to anyone whom they 'think will not fit in with the rest of the visitors,' similar to how they (apparently) refuse entry to men who don't speak any English or German. Girls who give the club a bad reputation and-or ruin the experience for male visitors could perhaps be a valid reason to kick out some of the worst offenders? I'm pretty sure that a man who receives a lot of complaints from the ladies, staff, or other men (for example constantly harassing girls, try to blackmail them, try to steal money from them, or causing a fight or conflicts with other guests) could be refused entry. The legal concept of [I]door policy[/I] is usually a very large grey area in most countries.
[/QUOTE]I must clarify to readers that the German forums, while providing names of girls providing horrible service for 100 or 150, does not mean that they are reporting 50 e rooms either.

But yeah, I get your proposal but consider that Sharks does not exist independently from other clubs. Girls working Frankfurt area clubs all charge the same. If Sharks cracks down and start blocking entry for girls, what stops them from just popping over to Oase or Palace? I mean, it's a hard call. Do you not risk losing your position as the king club of Hessen by sacrificing line up numbers, perhaps resulting in a slow deterioration of overall club quality. Or do nip it in the bud, control the girls, but risk losing your line up to other clubs?

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2917604]I just don't understand why customers always talk about old ugly girl such as Sylvanna and lousy service girl such as Brenda. They just don't know who Dina is. I think that Dina (2017 - 2019) is the most beautiful girl in Sharks' history. Dina was not only beautiful but also provided good services if you paid 150 EUR or more at that time.[/QUOTE]Because weird to see a granny getting young guys, when old Germans love schoolgirl style, they might have missed at school. What I experienced in 2014/2015 is Dina is too professionnal and not my GFE, not letting go but she wanted to control. Mersi. Hu was much more GFE. I can't say other than Katalina for highest level I got at Sharks, even only 1 2 hours 200 room, but I followed her at Globe and Megan followed me at Globe, when I didn't follow German snow white when she moved to escorting on June 2023 . When Kate was a busy superstar at Globe but looking what I did, as I told her: You don't need to be jealous about Larissa ex Isabella, when I went to Globe for You.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2917739]I'm afraid to drive as I haven't been behind the wheel in almost 18 months LOL.

I'm going Singapore Air to the USA. Would you say that 2 hours before is enough for them?

Thanks for the link bro, I'm embarrased I couldn't find it.

Now I have to decide whether to saty at the Dormero or some place closer to the station.[/QUOTE]Frankfurt airport is one of the faster ones, much more simple and fast than Paris-CDG or London Heathrow. I wouldn't want to cause anyone to miss their flight but I've found myself dropping off rental keys at 45 minutes before departure and still easily made my flight. Now that's with not checking bags, knowing the airport, and knowing how to pack as to not cause any delays at security. You know, proper travel etiquette. But that being said, 90 minutes is a nice no rush rule of thumb for me. But hey, if you have airport lounge access, getting there 4 hours early has its perks of being able to take in an hour or two to get that last meal and drink, giving you a moment to reflect on the awesome time you've had.

Driving in Germany is so easy ever since GPS. People follow the rules and aren't aggressive drivers unless you're doing something bonehead when they will not hesitate to express their disapproval of any incompetence or rule breaking. If there's a place to get back back comfortable with driving in traffic, it's in Germany while following an onscreen GPS. Apple Play is money.

Darmstadt's not a big town so you can get taxis from anywhere to the station for less than 20 e, maybe only 10-15 e. I've also walked from Sharks to near the main train station in 45 minutes, even closer if going to the Nord station.

Another option is staying at Hotel Contel that's on the same street as Sharks and hopping on the X15 bus from the Darmstadt -Rohm-Strasse bus stop across the street from the hotel. That's a simple one hour trip pretty much from the hotel door directly to the airport without having to even go to the station, transfer, or get in a taxi. Bus departs at 49-51 minutes past the hour and gets you there 10 minutes before the next hour. 5:50 am bus gets you there by 6:50. If staying at Dormero, it's only a 1.6 km direct walk to the same bus stop, all on a dedicated sidewalk. For comparison, it's a 1 km walk to Sharks from Dormero, so if you're not averse to walking a little and don't mind waiting at a bus stop rather than at a station, I don't see a logistical reason to stay anywhere else unless you want to explore beautiful Darmstadt.

By the way, can someone just sticky this post so we don't have to talk about logistics of Sharks to airport using public transport again? Hah!

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2917815]I must clarify to readers that the German forums, while providing names of girls providing horrible service for 100 or 150, does not mean that they are reporting 50 e rooms either.

But yeah, I get your proposal but consider that Sharks does not exist independently from other clubs. Girls working Frankfurt area clubs all charge the same. If Sharks cracks down and start blocking entry for girls, what stops them from just popping over to Oase or Palace? I mean, it's a hard call. Do you not risk losing your position as the king club of Hessen by sacrificing line up numbers, perhaps resulting in a slow deterioration of overall club quality. Or do nip it in the bud, control the girls, but risk losing your line up to other clubs?[/QUOTE]You are all dreaming. You are a small here of people who can't afford the price and constantly debate on how bad the situation is.

The truth is that business is not that bad at all and prices will never go down.

Think twice about it and go out of your home.

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2917899]You are all dreaming. You are a small here of people who can't afford the price and constantly debate on how bad the situation is.

The truth is that business is not that bad at all and prices will never go down.

Think twice about it and go out of your home.[/QUOTE]Your right, the business at shark isn't that bad for the club.

The club management is doing good job.

But the price is already falling.

I know some girls coming down from 200€/60 to 150€/60.

Not all but some.

First time in this club (afters years only going to the Frankfurt and Berlin clubs) and was completely overwhelmed when I first walked into the main area (around 3:30 pm). There were naked girls and guys everywhere!! It's so much bigger than Palace. A number of girls approached me before I'd even got to the bar to get a coke! Managed to fend them off, got my drink and went for a stroll around the club. There were girls everywhere, a lot were sitting in groups so it was hard to have a decent look at them all.

Took my time, walked around the grounds too as it was so sunny and warm. Bang on 5 pm nearly half the girls put their towels and headed to the restaurant for dinner but this thinned out the girls in the club so could get a better view. Spotted Toy-rah-an (or something like that, I asked her loads of times but could never quite hear what she wants saying, even in the quiet of the room). The ideal girl next door. She was sitting near the dance pole with the big mirror wall of the stairs to the rooms behind it (near the TV showing the FA Cup Final). She was stunningly beautiful, perfect face, eyes, perky see cup tits, ass and only 23! Only a couple of small tattoos on the inside of her arms, not great English. Should have suspected something was not right when she made me go to her when I made eye contact instead of her coming to me. Admitted she didn't kiss but that's fine with me. Went upstairs and everything was very mechanical, decent BBBJ with lots of eye contact (but she placed herself down between my legs, facing me) so there was no chance of groping her. Then when it came to licking her, she kept her legs very closed and only allowed me a little bit of access to the top part of her pussy. Then it was on with the red condom and a bit of grinding while also using her hand. Didn't last too long and was happy enough to get out of the room. 100 for 30 minutes Looks 10/10 session 4/10.

Decided to have dinner after that and was thinking about leaving but hung around and started standing near the games at the entrance. Seems to be a good spot as a number of girls came up and gave me hope for a second session. Moved around again and got a place on a couch when Anastasia came back again (having spoken to her earlier) and sat on my lap. She's blonde, 26, Romanian, fake boobs and lips. Which I don't really like. But great ass, lovely eyes and great personality and English. Only one small tattoo on her left wrist. My dick gave me the go ahead for a session with her. Agreed to an erotic massage, session and normal massage. Started off with lots of her rubbing her oily boobs all over my body, then a great BBBJ, after a while she changed position to spread her legs over my chest (allowing lots of fingering of her). When I said I was close to cunning she held off for a while and we chatted some more. Then on with the condom, lots of deep penetration and while I was groping her she said it was OK to finger her asshole! Didn't last too much longer. Then we talked some more and she gave me a fantastic ordinary massage, lots of oil and deep rubbing of my back, shoulders and neck. She then got me to massage her, back shoulders and hand (and didn't me rubbing and kissing her ass either). Really enjoyable hour. Looks 7/10 session 8/10. €200 for the hour (something I never normally bother doing with but she was worth it)!

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2917899]You are all dreaming. You are a small here of people who can't afford the price and constantly debate on how bad the situation is.

The truth is that business is not that bad at all and prices will never go down.

Think twice about it and go out of your home.[/QUOTE]I agree that prices will likely not go down. Not many people even suggest that. The previous poster actually focused on the lack of quality service for the new asking prices. Criticizing people for not being able to afford it is a simplistic argument that borders on gaslighting as if that were actually the issue. It's a simple matter of fair value and preserving quality when so many like yourself are promoting acquiescence to behaviors that result in a mediocre product. I mean, when making criticism of people's finances, perhaps you should also think twice and consider that some spend on quality and others, perhaps yourself, are willing to pay more for garbage. The fact that you accept these prices at an FKK demonstrate lack of perspective of the mongering scene, particularly in Europe. I for one do not spend much on an average room at an FKK. Now when I find a great one, do I spend 5 hours in a room with her, yeah. Does she have the potential to earn thousands outside of the club with me? Yeah. Your perspective reflects a small narrow vision of what these prices mean in the backdrop of the greater scene. Consider how it makes sense for FKK girls to be charging more than the average private. Prior to covid, 100 per hour was the general rate in clubs. In privates, 150 was the going rate. Now 200 is the club rate while privates are 150-200. Make that make sense.

I was speaking with one local guy who is actually following your suggestion. Well, he used to be a weekly customer and told me that was the first visit for him this year. Where has be been going? The damn apartment buildings where he is in and out with 70 euros. On that night, he was sitting in Sharks regretting his decision because the quality was not better than at the venues outside of the train station.

The reality is written on the wall that there is a quality decline. Girls know that it is affecting their business. The ones who are not 19 and 20 know better and regularly express how bad business has been lately. Only a handful of girls are making good money and their time will pass when guys have tried them. Veteran girls know the value of repeat business and potential for long rooms. These new girls entering at 200 e rates don't have many clients taking them for 5 hours because most guys will not pay 1000 e for 5 hours with one girl. But back when it was 500 for 5 hours? The best girls would have a 5 hour client every single week! I think you should reevaluate your perspective instead of getting defensive that you're okay with being price gouged. It's not that guys expressing your point of view are too rich to care. It's that you don't want to feel like part of the problem.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2917906]Your right, the business at shark isn't that bad for the club.

The club management is doing good job.

But the price is already falling.

I know some girls coming down from 200/60 to 150/60.

Not all but some.[/QUOTE]Just only a week or so ago you made the claim that 80% of girls take 150 euro per hour. Was that incorrect or is that 80% now creeping up closer to 85-90% with these girls you claim to have lowered their prices. I mean it's a simple matter of math and logic versus inaccurate claims. Like I said many times, unless she knew me before, not a single girl I've discussed it with has taken 150 e for single hour with me since at least last summer.

[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2917898]Frankfurt airport is one of the faster ones, much more simple and fast than Paris-CDG or London Heathrow. I wouldn't want to cause anyone to miss their flight but I've found myself dropping off rental keys at 45 minutes before departure and still easily made my flight. Now that's with not checking bags, knowing the airport, and knowing how to pack as to not cause any delays at security. You know, proper travel etiquette. But that being said, 90 minutes is a nice no rush rule of thumb for me. But hey, if you have airport lounge access, getting there 4 hours early has its perks of being able to take in an hour or two to get that last meal and drink, giving you a moment to reflect on the awesome time you've had.

Driving in Germany is so easy ever since GPS. People follow the rules and aren't aggressive drivers unless you're doing something bonehead when they will not hesitate to express their disapproval of any incompetence or rule breaking. If there's a place to get back back comfortable with driving in traffic, it's in Germany while following an onscreen GPS. Apple Play is money.

Darmstadt's not a big town so you can get taxis from anywhere to the station for less than 20 e, maybe only 10-15 e. I've also walked from Sharks to near the main train station in 45 minutes, even closer if going to the Nord station.

Another option is staying at Hotel Contel that's on the same street as Sharks and hopping on the X15 bus from the Darmstadt -Rohm-Strasse bus stop across the street from the hotel. That's a simple one hour trip pretty much from the hotel door directly to the airport without having to even go to the station, transfer, or get in a taxi. Bus departs at 49-51 minutes past the hour and gets you there 10 minutes before the next hour. 5:50 am bus gets you there by 6:50. If staying at Dormero, it's only a 1.6 km direct walk to the same bus stop, all on a dedicated sidewalk. For comparison, it's a 1 km walk to Sharks from Dormero, so if you're not averse to walking a little and don't mind waiting at a bus stop rather than at a station, I don't see a logistical reason to stay anywhere else unless you want to explore beautiful Darmstadt.

By the way, can someone just sticky this post so we don't have to talk about logistics of Sharks to airport using public transport again? Hah![/QUOTE]It should be stickied. I have walked from Dormero to Sharks and Darmstadt Nord to Sharks. Takes about 20-25 minutes. I'm going to look at the contel. Great info. I lost a lot of respect for the information that comes out on this forum because of the fact that its all buried amid rambling posts that say nothiong other than that the poster is distured. Thanks for good information in coherent English.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2917906]Your right, the business at shark isn't that bad for the club.

The club management is doing good job.

But the price is already falling.

I know some girls coming down from 200/60 to 150/60.

Not all but some.[/QUOTE]I agree, since I discovered 10 years ago when Sharks was the last of big 5 , management made a lot of works, improving rooms, building chalets I love in garden and not my business, but I find pity many of their girls fuck their business. For the club, Sharks is far higher level than Globe and higher level than Wellcum, better rooms and garden for sex at Sharks, but I'm amazed when I'm told Katalea ask now 150/30 and also many others, when I got her much more fresh without heavy make up for 150/60 and she asked not to stop going with her. On the day, she arrived from Munchen escorting, Jasmin. De was so sophisticated sexy elegant, my dreamed profile. When she asked me what I like, she told me: In Munchen, it would be 400/60 , so I answered: I just arrive, driving from Paris, I return to Paris where I get escorts for 200/55 after they have orgasm. Jasmin told me: I like You, I will discount for You at 200 and I didn't need to control not to go to 1 hour and such fire in bed compare to Katalea small pussy. I did regret she lost her sophisticated sexy, Albanians at night should care more about drinking, so I didn't rush to return to her and she looked at me. Few months later, on beginning of 2023 , she asked me if I wanted to repeat and told: for You, 150 is Ok, we had few other fire intense fucking when she lost control rooms. Bad point was, when girls tell about us, her friend Janina kind of avoided her so kisser such fucker bad guy, but Jasmin. De always did welcome me for 150/60 when she was fast to orgasmus. Except Lora for her fresh supermodel look and fresh GFE, I didn't see any other worthing German escorts rate and I mean prettier ones than little Romanians at Sharks. Only tourist in mind with 0 knowledge can pay to be fucked like this. Same than at Globe, before You paid 260/60 for wow girls, Megan was in reserve be team for almost whole 2017 there and now You pay more than 300/60 for girls from Bundesliga 2 like little Romanians at Sharks, so I don't visit to be fucked, same like Sharks, when I have prettier for 150/60 for really full GFE til Russian blood, really real GFE with confidence. I would be really dumb to pay more expensive for lower quality. Oase girls understood too late how they fucked their business. Friday party was so slow on evening / night, girls hunting. I'm sure many girls in NRW working for half rate, make more money at the end of month and not making cellulite warming ass sitting whole day. I think many Sharks little Romanians should try Globe, when prettier girls I know told me: we know big money there, but we don't accept rules there, rules which kill freshness, even I remember superstar Finnish Ekaterina there, very professionnal but lovely and she gave a lot in sex, but looking at me with round eyes when I was working on her, for sure she never experienced before, when she was really busy and not anymore 18 . From my knowledge of this business, 150/60 should really be maximum for the prettiest who are able to give real GFE, not only few kiss and not able to suck or to fuck, when can still find with prettier than most at Sharks, for 100/120/60 . Or they can warm their ass, making cellulite, whole day, waiting for tourists to fuck and usually, the most expensive they ask, the less they give. With Jasmin. De, after our discovery, but not anymore same square hairstyle, I didn't ask her to repeat for 200/60 , she came proposing for 150/60, when she could stay drinking whole night with Albanians.

[QUOTE=PMunny;2917926] Admitted she didn't kiss but that's fine with me. Went upstairs and everything was very mechanical, decent BBBJ with lots of eye contact (but she placed herself down between my legs, facing me) so there was no chance of groping her.[/QUOTE]Nice report, the position you describe is the exact one I want for a blowjob. If a girl does it from another angle I ask them to change and place herself between my legs. Almost all girls are fine with that, if you prefer from a different position it's worth asking.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2917979]Nice report, the position you describe is the exact one I want for a blowjob. If a girl does it from another angle I ask them to change and place herself between my legs. Almost all girls are fine with that, if you prefer from a different position it's worth asking.[/QUOTE]When not many are mouth skillful or able to read your body reactions, when most WGs have low level for sex from their pimp and often boring, I often stop because I don t want to pay time for low level, or with princesses, I like to have them on their knees, like we played with Amira ex Samya and she played great, pushing on her head to make her taking whole monstro in her mouth always talking about money, softly of course. With my highest quality, Russian very woman who really want to please back her for weekly orgasmus client, I like when she press on me with her throat, but You can t expect this with Romanian schoolgirl types if You are not mini size. When I love very hot shower, funny how monstro grow under hot water, when he sleep when I ski.