Seeking Arrangements

So like most things that start in SA there is and probably should be a clear end. I believe I just got to the end with my Nicaraguan SA girl. We spent one last weekend together in Nicaragua in my trip last week. We ended up having an entire colonial house in Granada to ourselves for 2 nights and days including a pool. I only paid for one room in the house but such is Nicaragua right now. I brought her some nice brand clothing from the states that I have access to for really low prices. I left the original full price tags on if course. She loved them and the thought behind them even though I messed up one of the sizes because I just forgot how tiny her waist is.

It was a great weekend. We pretty much swam and made out in the pool, tried out some great restaurants, talked and shagged all weekend. 6 sessions in all. We are comfortable with each other, maybe a little too comfortable which why as much as I like her I am kind of glad we have hit the natural end. By the time I return to Nicaragua she is likely to have moved back to Switzerland and the probability we are in the same city or near enough to see each other again is small. We both know this and have exchanged WhatsApps wishing each other well and grateful for the times we were able to spend together. I will remember her fondly. Willing to out up with my bad but improving Spanish. Not needy. Respectful of my personal life and discretion. Passionate and genuine sex that I will remember fondly for a long time. I am fairly certain she feels the same way. If we do happen to cross in Nicaragua or Europe again I expect we will spend a wonderful night together for old times sake. For me this is the model for what SA should be and can be. Now I will need to hunt for another Nicaraguan and hope I get as lucky.

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2680137]When they do this, they have a certain amount in mind to help them get through the month. So you do not want to make them feel like hookers because in their mind they are not. As such, I would just get them to offer the amount they can live with and I can justify. I would only negotiate with them for non monetary add-ONS like extra time or extra services like BB. I also note that these girls don't like to do BJ though they are more open to BB. Go figure.

Anyway, the psychology behind this is for them to be happy with what they are expecting and I can wring extra concessions as a result by indicating with I want. Again, YMMV. For BB, if they are not willing to do it, they would just say no and actually I don't feel they get offended.[/QUOTE]Funny how you and Steve say the same thing. I have not found that to be true, but I will say that sometimes women place more value on things they consider intimate. I know women who would fuck other guys but only kiss their significant other. I agree Colombians are not as good as Brazilians with oral (who is?) But I was thinking about the Colombian women I dated and was very close to, and they loved giving oral. So to me, what may be going on is that BJs are for them with intimacy what for other women would be kissing.

I could be wrong, but it is just a thought.

Also, I think the coastal women (costenas) do much better with oral than those in Bogota or Medellin.

[QUOTE=RonhinCruz;2680528]For me this is the model for what SA should be and can be. Now I will need to hunt for another Nicaraguan and hope I get as lucky.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the valuable reminder on why we use SB. As much work goes into a successful start as a successful completion. I usually include a discussion on how things 'end' in the first coffee chat with a SB.

How do you guys bring up bb / cip without spooking them? Multiple posts have advised not to bring up sex or compensation. Is bb something you only do with regular sb?

[QUOTE=GoingDumb;2680772]How do you guys bring up bb / cip without spooking them? Multiple posts have advised not to bring up sex or compensation. Is bb something you only do with regular sb?[/QUOTE]I don't ever discuss any sexual details. I just let it flow. If she tries to give me a covered BJ we going to be done. But only had 1 out of 30+ Seeking girls try that. As far as BBFS it just happens. And more often than I would have expected. Actually two times it happened because it was period sex and then we just kept at it after that. I never CIP unless it's period sex.

Of the three Seeking girls I've seen in last two weeks, one was covered, one changed to bareback after a mid session restroom break, and one went straight in bareback on first mount up. So YMMV. But it's been a lot ever since I became open to it. Oh and these three were all brand new. Initial dinner date and fuck after.

Well once again the last ditch effort paid off. I was traveling in a mid-tier city and not really planning to do anything but last minute thought why not. Spammed 8-10 girls with the strong opener and got three bites. Literally my first message went out and was responded to at 4 PM and we were having dinner at 7 and fucking at 10. Really hot slim girl with firm and lovely see cups. Really sweet and personable at dinner and a bar bounce. But then a wild woman in bed and dying to fuck bareback from minute 1. Really nice time.

Once again will say if you don't like all the cat and mouse of Seeking, just say your going out and they should join you. Hasn't failed me yet. Scored same day lays each time.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2681039]Well once again the last ditch effort paid off. I was traveling in a mid-tier city and not really planning to do anything but last minute thought why not. Spammed 8-10 girls with the strong opener and got three bites. Literally my first message went out and was responded to at 4 PM and we were having dinner at 7 and fucking at 10. Really hot slim girl with firm and lovely see cups. Really sweet and personable at dinner and a bar bounce. But then a wild woman in bed and dying to fuck bareback from minute 1. Really nice time.

Once again will say if you don't like all the cat and mouse of Seeking, just say your going out and they should join you. Hasn't failed me yet. Scored same day lays each time.[/QUOTE]Interesting approach Steve. How do you screen for a girl that is up for sex that first night? That seemed to be a key part of your process (off-line of course). You had discreet ways of bringing up that you were looking for intimacy.

Suspecting this to be a scam, since each time anyone initiated a contact and carry on a conversation, she would always dive into what I do and then follow with her mentioning that she is into cryptocurrency investment. Trying to get me interested and in most cases I would just mention I don't know much and not interested in such activities, and the conversation will slowly die away.

Anyone encountering this type of contacts from women in the US?

My arrival in the UK is imminent. I've managed to narrow it down to two girls I have a primary interest in.

Girl A is a chavvy single mum. 20.5'2 with a pleasantly large add. What we'd term in the UK a benefits queen. Get knocked up young, get a house off of the government. Have videochatted, lied to her that I was on the way to meet her in an hour. Nothing, no content, no childcare etc etc. I think she's genuine. She's agreed to 100 ppm, at her place, no time limit. BBFSCIP. She's into slow and sensual sex, nothing degrading.

She's on my doorstep too. Probably see her a couple of times.

Girl be. A chavvy / alty 19 year old, tiny brunette uni girl. Likes her soft drugs. Into hard and degrading sex. Has sent me videos of her getting gagged on a dick, pissing, stripping, getting fingered hard and deep. I've had it confirmed from other mongering sources that she's real and does meet. She's a little more experienced than girl A and in it for money and enjoyment of degrading sex.

Not on my doorstep. 30 40 minutes away. Can't host. Confirmed to be a little flakey so I'll have backup options. 150 ppm no time limit. BBFSCIP.

So, as you can see, I continue to use Seeking vary differently from you guys. I'm not after the sugar babe experience, wining and dining. I just want raunchy sex with chavvy, slutty girls.

I think I'm onto a winner with these two.

I just got banned for "soliciting prostitution" on their website. Then I got an email that said they banned me from their sister websites and "reserved the right" to turn me in to local authorities. Has anyone ever been turned in or had bad action other than being banned?

Decided to spend a bit of time away working remotely while checking out life in Bogota. My other objective was to experience personally what some of these regular girls can offer primarily through SA. This is my second trip to Bogota.

There is definitely a lot of work that needs to be done on SA, and for me, it is a learning process. Many have reported that it is just too much work on SA without the sight of quick return. I would agree especially if the preferred method is to bang as many girls with least minimal effort.

It will be very difficult to meet and get the girl that one want and willing to have sex with on a short notice on SA. However, if one is of the type who prefer companionship with sexual intimacy, SA could be a potential avenue to explore.

A month prior to my trip, I had started to collect the girls contact info. So much so, I have more girls willing to meet than I have time for them. Naturally, I will prioritize girls who are showing more interest in me than simply ignoring me beyond a simple greeting. Probably in hindsight, it is not the best approach, but without much prior experience, I work with with what I have.

These were the girls that I met in person.

[B]SA Girl #1[/B]

Got a message from this SA girl on my first evening in Bogota. I was surprised that she kept tab of when I would be in Bogota based on my last conversation almost a month back and with whom I had never chatted since.

I gave this girl a wider berth since she seemed to be fluent in English, and as I did not feel like eating dinner alone. She happened to be in the area on a medical visit when she chatted with me and I invited her over for a dinner. We had a pretty good dinner date and did not do anything beyond that since I was tired and would have a important meeting that I need to prepare for the next day. So we parted after dinner but kept the option of seeing each again open over the weekend.

[B]SA Girl #2 [/B]

She is probably one of the most enthusiastic lot given how she would check in on me regularly even prior to reaching Bogota. She is in her early 20's and looked cute in the picture that she sent me and I imagined that she has a nice pair of boobs underneath.

I had a few hours to spare during daytime after lunch and scheduled a time for her to come. I met her in a coffeeshop near my apartment before heading back together.

I made a noobie mistake of not clarifying on the service that I wanted before our meeting. So when she asked for protection while we were making out, I did not want to insist on BB on her. Anyway, her tits were simply boobalicious. Also, this was the first time I was with any girl who can really squirt. I was taken back when her pussy juice were spraying all over my bed and I had to scramble for a towel to contain this mess.

I asked if she has sex with many other people afterwards but said she only have sex with her boyfriend. I had seen her boyfriend in her WhatsApp post in the past. She wanted to see me again, I told her only if she is willing to go BB the next time which she agreed. She was a college student and was on SA for only a month and I was her first encounter.

Alas, I did not have the time for the second meet, since I had so many other girls that I want to try out with my somewhat limited time.

[B]SA Girl #3 [/B]

I had this Girl #3 the next day who is in her mid-20's. She was almost as enthusiastic as Girl #2. This time I learned from the earlier mistake, and told her that I wanted BB before agreeing for her to come by in the evening, and she agreed.

I asked her to send me her photo to be taken at that moment and unfiltered, which she did shortly. She did not look that great in that photo but was not too bad either. So I told her to come over to my apartment after her restaurant shift in the evening.

When she arrived, she looked much cuter in person than in her photo. I was attracted by her smile and that almost innocent girl next door look. Before the deed, we showered together because I wanted to go down on her and also expecting reciprocity. She was one of the only SA girl where I received a BJ and a decent one too. The sex was only okay.

I asked her how long she had done this and she mentioned that I was her first SD with an expected meet up with another SD the following month.

Anyway, after sex, I was hungry and we walked to Zona T where there were plenty of good restaurants. During dinner, I asked if she has friends and she hinted if I was interested in a threesome and I mentioned I would like it only if she is comfortable with it.

Then she showed me a photo of this girl (SA Girl #5) whom I recognize from one of the SA girls that I had communicated earlier. At that moment, I was thinking maybe I can have her spend the weekend with me while giving me the option of exploring other girls while she was with me. I offered her the arrangement for her to stay with me over the weekend and she agreed. On hindsight, it was probably a mistake as I was hoping to replicate the fun times that I used to have with this Colombian bisexual girl in my previous trip.

At that moment, I forgot that I have already a meet with SA Girl #4 that evening for a dinner and sex. I did not want to cancel of that girl since she looked so pretty in that picture that she sent me and a really nice pair of rack. Plus she had also agreed to BB. So, I reshuffled our meet to noon the next day.

Girl #3 showed up on my apartment the next evening after work, and we had a quickie before heading over to the Irish pub in Zona T to meet up with a new ISG member and a friend who happened to be in Bogota at that time. After a few drinks there, my friends and us headed over to the Lio bar and had a wild night partying in that club. I was completely wasted that night and the girl and I both woke up with a huge hangover the following day.

Anyway, without dragging out the boring details, the longer this girl stayed with me the less that I like her. That initial infatuation that I felt for her wore off. Many small details added up to big ones that would prevent me from ever wanting her to stay any longer than a meet in the future.

[B]SA Girl #4 [/B]

She is only 19 but, oh boy, she was the best screw among all the SA girls. I say SA girls, since I actually had better sessions with the escort agency girls, which I will write up below.

Anyway, I rescheduled our meet to noon that Saturday since I have asked Girl #3 to come that evening to accompany me that night through the weekend.

This girl wanted me to send her an Uber which I did. For a 10-mile ride, the total trip took an hour on a weekend. This gives you an idea of how bad Bogota's traffic is.

I met her in front of the building and we headed for lunch together to a restaurant nearby since I was hungry. She was shy and almost quiet during this whole encounter. When she took off her mask, I was actually disappointed that she was not as attractive as her photo. Still attractive but not as good.

After lunch, we headed back to my apartment and we were in the apartment, this girl transformed into a wild one in bed. She would kiss me passionately and as soon as our clothes were off, she would dry hump me as I fondled and sucked on her big natural tits and my dick got super hard real fast. Just as soon, she took off of her underwear, climbed on top of me and slid my dick into her pussy. She would gyrate her hips and those internal friction made me came before long. As I came into her pussy and she would continue to gyrate non-stop until I have to eventually stop her as I can't take it any longer.

We chatted for a while and 10 minutes in, and my dick would get hard again. She would grab it and started to ride me. Coming twice in a single day is somewhat of a rarity for me these days. Making me come twice in a span of an hour requires a real skillset from that girl. I came into her again but at that point, it was probably just blanks. Let's hope that she does not claim to be pregnant in a few months.

[B]SA Girl #5[/B]

This girl was on SA the longest and told me she had two SD before me with the platform. Turned out that she was a Venezuelan. I conducted the same protocol with this girl, unfiltered photo and if she is okay with BB. One thing that struck me was she said that even though she took great care of herself, she was willing to do it with me. We agreed to meet and have her come to my apartment that evening. Anyway, this girl turned out to be a real disaster in bed, which I would explain later.

At this time, I had not yet has a chance to use the service of my go-to escort agency eroticasbogota, and I wanted to sample their girls again while in Bogota.

So I texted them and picked Diana who was able to do CIM as an extra service. She showed up at my apartment in the afternoon, and she was this cute spinner with a beautiful balanced sets of body and tits. Very passionate and GFE and I told her that I wanted to CIM before I screw her and she obliged.

I did not get a chance to do a CIM so far, and that was the best come that I had so far in this trip. For a minute or so as she sucked them all up, I thought that she might swallow it until she gestured for a permission to go to the bathroom to spit them out. We continued with more banging afterwards. Overall, it was a good session and the girls from eroticasbogota rarely disappoint.

I got a few hours to recuperate before my next meet with SA Girl #5.

I told this girl to be at my apartment at 6 pm and given that she lives at Chapinero, I thought it would not take too much time. 30 minutes in, she said she was still on her way and she showed me a screen shot of where she was and how much more time it would take to reach my apartment.

To my surprise, her screen shot was showing it to be still 50 minutes away and what is worse, it was showing how long it would be to walk to my place. WTF. I told her to grab an Uber and I will pay for it which she immediately did.

When she got to my apartment, we spent a good time chatting and she was a pretty upbeat girl. I was not ready to dive straight into sex since I had already done so a few hours earlier with Diana.

My friend texted me then and asked me if I would like to grab dinner or a drink since I will be flying back the next day. I said yes and told him that I will be bringing along this girl. By the time we wrapped up our dinner, it was 9 pm. The girl mentioned to me earlier that she need a hard stop at 11 PM. I offered her extra if she can stay later or until the next morning, and she was adamant that she can't and had to leave no latter than 11 PM as previously agreed with me.

Since I wanted to know how it was like to bang this girl, I had to cut the meeting with my friend short and hurried back to my apartment on taxi. I really didn't like the rush. Anyway, when we got to my apartment, we stripped and she asked me what I would like. I said let's start with a BBJ and then a BB. She resisted with the BB initially until I showed her our previous text on WhatsApp. Alas, it was for nothing, since after I poked my dick into her pussy, I smelled something was not right, and I meant that literally. Her pussy had this unbearable stench, and I just dipped my dick into that stench.

I stopped all activities and went to the bathroom to wash it off with a wet towel. Still that stench remained, and I had to take a shower and probably used my body wash three times to get rid of that smell. I have to say that a stinky pussy is like a kryptonite.

Given it was my last night, I did not want to end my trip with this stench. I texted eroticasbogota to see if they can still send a girl over to me at this hours, and they said yes and one can arrive in 30 minutes. After that, I stepped out of the bathroom and while the girl was still wondering what was going on, I paid her and gave her taxi money and told her that I need her to leave in 5 minutes. She did but was still wondering what was going on. Anyway, that will be the last time I will be seeing her.

About 30 minutes later, Hanna from the agency came. The front desk called me if it is ok to let her up and I said yes. Hanna was just as adorable as Diana and her service was just as good.

I was glad that I was able to leave Bogota with a still favorable experience and had these agency girls come to the "rescue" when needed.

Anyway, this is my first experience with SA girls and I thought of sharing this with everyone.

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2681089]Suspecting this to be a scam, since each time anyone initiated a contact and carry on a conversation, she would always dive into what I do and then follow with her mentioning that she is into cryptocurrency investment. Trying to get me interested and in most cases I would just mention I don't know much and not interested in such activities, and the conversation will slowly die away.

Anyone encountering this type of contacts from women in the US?[/QUOTE]All the time. Nothing but a pure scam! I mean, how many 20+ year-olds do you know who are financial gurus who got rich investing in cryptocurrencies and such? If it was that easy, don't you know everybody would be doing it? No, what most hot girls do it look for a man to take care of their asses. Things got to the point that if anybody mentioned that to me, or said something about that in their profile, it was an immediate block!

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2681102]I just got banned for "soliciting prostitution" on their website. Then I got an email that said they banned me from their sister websites and "reserved the right" to turn me in to local authorities. Has anyone ever been turned in or had bad action other than being banned?[/QUOTE]Many including myself have been banned. I once also received a requirement to sit through 10 minutes of good behaviour videos before I could login again. I have seen the "reserved the right" message but maybe I didn't bother reading it in enough detail.

I am sharing some of the red flags that I had encountered in SA and transition to WhatsApp.

- Pay special attention to initiation of contact from the girl who would then want to transition to WhatsApp, and then finding that message thread disappear from your message list the next day.

- On WhatsApp, she would appear to so caring to be the point of being annoying, questions like "How's your day? Did you have a good rest? Have you eaten yet? Etc etc. " Maybe if she claimed to be an Asian, that could fit into the profile, but to say that she is an European who happened to be living in the US, yeah right. Anyway, even for Asian girl, I would still look at it with suspicion.

- Saying that she is into cryptography or XYZ investment, that is another red flag to hook you in.

So a girl in the US initiated a chat with me last night on SA and we moved to WhatsApp last night and this girl claimed to be a Dutch who happened to living with her relatives now in the US. The next day, she chatted with me again, except this time, I tried to check up on her contact info in WhatsApp. I guessed she (or maybe even a he) failed to remove the "About Me" section and there were Chinese text that said 线 上 which means online. I probed her by trying to chat up with her in Dutch (courtesy of translate app) and she began to question me on my insincerity yadiyada. She never replied to me in Dutch and she said she did not know any Chinese. I checked back the message section on SA, that message thread was gone. Anyway, I blocked her ass on my WhatsApp.

I had also encountered other instances where the girl would say she is from HongKong or some other Asian countries and then after a few idle chat, asked me what I do and then said she is into cryptocurrency or other BS investment etc. Anyway, I always put them on my ignore list.

Feels like a scam that they want to reel you in initially. I could be a cynics, but has anyone ever encountered this before?

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2681236]
Feels like a scam that they want to reel you in initially. I could be a cynics, but has anyone ever encountered this before?[/QUOTE]The crypto scam Asians have been all over the place since more than 12 months (SA, Tinder) some of them play a pretty long game with a lot of chatting but all their personal stories are made up.