American Politics

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2560447]Blah blah blah Biden Blah blah blah sucks Blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah All Blah blah blah Democrats Blah blah blah are Blah blah blah socialists Blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah Everything Blah blah blah Democrats Blah blah blah do Blah blah blah is Blah blah blah bad Blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah the Blah blah blah election Blah blah blah was Blah blah blah stolen Blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah trump is God Blah blah blah trump was the best president ever, better than Washington and better than Lincoln Blah blah blah trump has never lied Blah blah blah.[/QUOTE]Just more propaganda from "the corporate media," aka Fox Corporation / Rupert Murdock. Show me the conservative that is against Medicare, Social Security, and public education then we may be on the way to finding one that isn't a socialist. Until then the developed world will continue to operate as mixed economies. The question isn't whether to have socialism or not, it's how much and what sort. But that requires a discussion of a depth the typical monger sitting on a barstool phone in hand lacks the ability to do. Instead the same talking points are recited over and over. Do you have better things to do with your time than go in circles with such folks? I know I do. Hit them where it hurts. Beat them at polls.

[URL]https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Argument-by-Repetition[/URL]

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2560512]Name a book you have read in the last year.[/QUOTE]Reading no books is better than reading fiction and fantasy books about things that are not real. I will bet that if you a read a book that said Carter was a good president for the country you got it from the writer himself because it would be the only copy out there. It is unbelievable that there are people like you in the USA.

Suggested Reading or books I found very interesting during the pandemic:

"The Death Instinct" by Jacques Meserine.

"The Rum Diary" by Hunter S. Thompson.

"ZEROZEROZERO" by Roberto Saviano.

"A conflict of Visions" by Thomas Sowell.

"The Case for Trump" by Victor Davis Hanson.

The 1st two are just great reads. The 3rd one is a detailed nonfiction book on the history and evolution of the international narcotics industry. The last two are obviously political, but they are still very important books by serious, conservative thinkers.

But conservatives say "That's just CNN propaganda. Fox News didn't report anything and trump didn't say anything, so it didn't really happen."

[URL]https://news.yahoo.com/arizona-auditors-backtrack-no-election-231038931.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Canada;2560456]..
High inflation and gas lines are not good for America.
...[/QUOTE]Um...Yes, that's why Carter appointed the Fed Chairman he appointed to do what was necessary but politically risky to reduce hyper-inflation. And he knowingly did it heading into an election year (1980). The Republican presidents before him did not have the balls to do it. And most certainly the Republican president after him would not have. But Carter did.

Oh, and the Arab Oil Embargo along with the first and biggest gas lines that followed occurred in 1973. Carter was not president then. Wouldn't be for another 3-4 years. Someone from a different political party was. That's the easily searchable truth matter what the persistently pro-Republican election campaigning pundits in the mainstream media told you at the time and ever since.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2560723]Um...Yes, that's why Carter appointed the Fed Chairman he appointed to do what was necessary but politically risky to reduce hyper-inflation. And he knowingly did it heading into an election year (1980). The Republican presidents before him did not have the balls to do it. And most certainly the Republican president after him would not have. But Carter did.

Oh, and the Arab Oil Embargo along with the first and biggest gas lines that followed occurred in 1973. Carter was not president then. Wouldn't be for another 3-4 years. Someone from a different political party was. That's the easily searchable truth matter what the persistently pro-Republican election campaigning pundits in the mainstream media told you at the time and ever since.[/QUOTE]There is nothing you can write than can change history. The whole USA population knows what Carter did. Writing something on this forum does not change history. Just because you don't like the history you can't cancel it.

Biden supports Iran.

Iran supports Hamas.

Biden supports BLM.

BLM supports Hamas.

It took Trump 4 years to get peace agreements in Middle East.

It took Biden 4 months to get a war going in middle East. Biden support of Iran and his weak foreign policy has already shaken up the Middle East.

Are the democrats ok with this? Is this the path for the future of USA supporting Terrorists.

[QUOTE=Canada;2560750]Biden supports Isreal

Isreal uses the USA.

Biden supports BLM.

BLM is a proxy warrior.

Trump for 4 years did everything Isreal wanted in Middle East.

It took Biden 4 months and Isreal continues to liquidate the Gaza ghetto. Biden support of Isreal and his weak foreign policy has already advanced the zionist agenda.

The democrats ok with this. This is the path for the future of USA supporting zionist terrorists. [/QUOTE]There you go.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2560767]There you go.[/QUOTE]I know you misquoted Canada in jest and to make your point, but it is not cool. If you disagree with someone, fine, criticize whomever all you want, but leave their words alone.

[QUOTE=Canada;2560216]No I think it is possible to counterfeit anything these days including currency. I don't think everyone hired to count ballots by the democrats was capable of distinguishing if a ballot was real or fake. In many cases they didn't even verify signatures so I along with millions believe that if you really want to cheat in any election it is possible.[/QUOTE]First, you are trying to change the subject. You started with a thoroughly dishonest post which took lines from a USA today fact-check to leave people with the exact opposite of what they concluded. You were called on it. Did you man up?

In addition we found that in fact the problem was almost certainly the inability of some conservatives to read a chart. So I pointed out that the actual facts are that there is no issue here the number of ballots sent out far exceeded the number returned for the General Election. Again you side-step to something now saying well 'I think... ' and basically suggest that so long as you can harbor a suspicion without evidence against people you disagree with, it is okay to deprive others of their right to vote. This is a ridiculous standard and one which carries an implicit notion that the suspicions of conservatives are somehow valid without evidence while centuries of legitimate black concerns based on mountains of evidence continue to be denied by those same people. A just society requires openness and evidence-based responses. You offer self-indulgent tyranny.

Yes anything can be faked. But the question is, if we know that money can be counterfeited, why don't we demand that people show ID in order to use cash? Shouldn't we be recording and tracking everyone who spends a dollar at the grocery store? I look forward to your understanding of why not.

The Constitutional right to vote is a right of citizens. It is not a function of whether or not he or she has registered with the state department of transportation. How can a real American suggest that such a breach requires no proof of legitimate concern? The Brennan Center for Justice at NYU studies voting and declares that the number of illegitimate mail-in votes is in the area of "000001 percent of all votes cast." While estimates are that those prevented from voting will be closer to .5 or 1%. The plans are literally keeping thousands of people from legitimately voting to prevent one illegitimate vote. That is not rational unless your actual motive is anti-democratic and unconstitutional.

[QUOTE=Sojourner;2560839]First, you are trying to change the subject. You started with a thoroughly dishonest post which took lines from a USA today fact-check to leave people with the exact opposite of what they concluded. You were called on it. Did you man up?

In addition we found that in fact the problem was almost certainly the inability of some conservatives to read a chart. So I pointed out that the actual facts are that there is no issue here the number of ballots sent out far exceeded the number returned for the General Election. Again you side-step to something now saying well 'I think... ' and basically suggest that so long as you can harbor a suspicion without evidence against people you disagree with, it is okay to deprive others of their right to vote. This is a ridiculous standard and one which carries an implicit notion that the suspicions of conservatives are somehow valid without evidence while centuries of legitimate black concerns based on mountains of evidence continue to be denied by those same people. A just society requires openness and evidence-based responses. You offer self-indulgent tyranny.

Yes anything can be faked. But the question is, if we know that money can be counterfeited, why don't we demand that people show ID in order to use cash? Shouldn't we be recording and tracking everyone who spends a dollar at the grocery store? I look forward to your understanding of why not.

The Constitutional right to vote is a right of citizens. It is not a function of whether or not he or she has registered with the state department of transportation. How can a real American suggest that such a breach requires no proof of legitimate concern? The Brennan Center for Justice at NYU studies voting and declares that the number of illegitimate mail-in votes is in the area of "000001 percent of all votes cast." While estimates are that those prevented from voting will be closer to .5 or 1%. The plans are literally keeping thousands of people from legitimately voting to prevent one illegitimate vote. That is not rational unless your actual motive is anti-democratic and unconstitutional.[/QUOTE]The problem wasn't that the Republicans couldn't read the chart. The problem was that the republicans could read the chart and it showed that there was possible fraud so the chart was removed immediately. Why do you think the chart was removed. Yes you are right. It showed possible fraud.

Biden removed sanctions and approved pipeline from Russia to Germany today. Shows that Biden cares more about Russia energy than USA energy. No backlash at all from the media or environmental wackos. Amazing!

[QUOTE=Canada;2560870]Biden removed sanctions and approved pipeline from Russia to Germany today. Shows that Biden cares more about Russia energy than USA energy. No backlash at all from the media or environmental wackos. Amazing![/QUOTE]You have a lot of nerve talking about somebody going easy on Russia. This is but one (but egregious) example:

[URL]https://youtu.be/wBwgxHnlhqo[/URL]

[QUOTE=Canada;2560749]There is nothing you can write than can change history. The whole USA population knows what Carter did. Writing something on this forum does not change history. Just because you don't like the history you can't cancel it.[/QUOTE]I agree with this except for the "whole population" knowing something part of it.

Oh, and Carter was not president in 1973. He really had nothing to do with the Arab Oil Embargo and the gas lines that embargo triggered no matter how much pro-Republican election victory mainstream media pundits have tried to fool you into believing such a thing.

Gas lines did return briefly in 1979 due to issues with the brutal Shah regime that (R)President Eisenhower overthrew democratic elections in Iran to install, giving rise to a 25 year Islamic Revolution and the takeover in power of the Ayatollahs we are still dealing with today, came crashing to a close. But not as much as previously.

[QUOTE=Canada;2560869]... The problem was that the republicans could read the chart and it showed that there was possible fraud so the chart was removed immediately....[/QUOTE]Really? Do you have evidence or do you believe your delusions? The USA Today article you cited says the data was still on the site.

I asked several questions in my last letter, and you side-stepped them all. Can you man-up and admit your USA Today post was a lie?

You said money is counterfeited, please explain why we don't make people give ID in order to use cash to clarify you analogy.

How does it make sense to deprive millions of people of their constitutional right with no evidence of a problem?

What kind of person violate the constitutional rights of 10,000 citizens for every illegal vote they prevent?

Some folks just blow angry smoke around here, but I'm sure you can help me understand your perspective on these issues or clarify where you were mistaken right Canada?