Phnom Penh

[QUOTE=Marrow;1108183]Crackdown over? To be honest, my friend, is getting worst. Day by day. On 2011, cambodian's police plan is to arrest every girl a little sexy hanging on a motorbyke around PP. [/QUOTE]Crackdown in Phnom Penh was not occuring in December 2010.

Not sure what "they" plan to do in 2011.

There is no "moto-bike" scene is PP; might be getting confused with Saigon.

But as my driver said. Crackdowns come, but the houses always comes back. The locals need a place to release themselves. Many of the locals will pay extra ($5 instead of $2.50 or $3) for better quality. My guess is that the houses are connected (they pay off government officials).

Even with the previous crackdown, Martini, Sharkeys, LCC and all the hostess bars were still open.

Interesting story: the police attempted to clean up Hun Sen Park of FLs. But as soon as they were arrested, they got out and came back. The undercover police did not want to blow their cover and risk their lives for unimportant "crimes". The FLs are still there. If you go there, be careful!

I heard that there are some criminals working at one of the parks (not sure which one) that will steal your moto-bike helmet. If you chase them, they will pull out a knife. At night time, there aren't too many people around.

Another area which has FLs at night: Go up Monivong away from market; pass Asia Palace hotel; left on first possible street. Then you will see Cambodia "restaurant"; tables on sidewalk serving food. Then next street, there will be girls hanging around the corner. Again be careful; you prepay pimp; girls will steal and leave early if you allow them.

I agree with Greenbud on this one. There are still plenty of options in Phnom Penh. There has been a lot of talk of the crackdown and how dead this city is and so forth, but I don't really see it. There are still dozens of places to pick up working girls. Far more places than I've had time to explore. There have been lots of complaints about high prices, but $10 or $15 ST seems to be acceptable with every lady I've been with.

Hippie and Shadow6491, you guys were both talking about places to get a neck massage or your crotch rubbed for a lady drink or a small tip. Where were you guys talking about? I see neck massages in pretty much every bar, but no crotch rubbing. (Maybe I should be looking under the table?) The only bar I know of where the girls always rub your crotch is LCC. Could someone suggest some other bars where the girls are a bit more "hands on"?

Hello, to everybody!

I'm just back from a trip in SE asia, I want to share my (first) experience in Cambodia.

Aside Angkor that really must be seen, I decided to spend 3 days in PP before leaving to Bangkok.

I booked at hotel Trasak Pa-them, on St. 63 at the intersection with St. 184, not too far from the central market (about 1 Km) , not a great place but acceptable (but the breakfast is really awful).

Zero action in the riverside, back to the hotel I asked an "advice" to the night porter for a place to have fun before sleeping. One of the two guys smiled and escorted me just 20 mt. Along St. 63 in the direction of the central market. A joung guy was attending at the outside of a kind of shop / garage and said 10$ for massage & bum-bum. We went inside and there were 6. 8 girls all dressed like school girls, some really beautiful, I asked for the age and the boss said all of them were between 18-21.

I choose a very attractive and fresh girl and she accompained me in another room subdivided in 4-5 small boxes with curtains and a small bed inside. At least another customer was present in the place.

She undressed and began to massage my back and then asked me to turn around and continued up to start a hand-massage and then she started with a BJ, etc, etc. Her english was zero but I can say she was passionate. The place was very shabby but the experience was in the complex not bad at all.

I post a picture of the place, took on the next morning. The hotel is just near the bar on the left.

Out the door waiting for me there was the night porter and I offered him a beer bar in the "Rambo", right in front of the hotel, on the other side of St. 184.

He recommended another brothel like a little further toward the central market but on the other side of the St. 63, but according to him was worse than the first.

The next night I visited it. No need to ask because outside there was a guy and he said me if I was looking

For "massage & bum-bum". The request was 20$ but he agreed for 15$. Inside there were 5 girls, maybe older than in the first place but decent. I choose one and the service (and the place) where similar to the first.

Overall. Much better a trip to Patong or Pattaya in Thailand. During all my staty in the country the feeling was to be in a place not so safe, unpleasant.

[QUOTE=Bartchamdo; 1108449]I agree with Greenbud on this one. There are still plenty of options in Phnom Penh. There has been a lot of talk of the crackdown and how dead this city is and so forth, but I don't really see it. There are still dozens of places to pick up working girls. Far more places than I've had time to explore. There have been lots of complaints about high prices, but $10 or $15 ST seems to be acceptable with every lady I've been with.

Hippie and Shadow6491, you guys were both talking about places to get a neck massage or your crotch rubbed for a lady drink or a small tip. Where were you guys talking about? I see neck massages in pretty much every bar, but no crotch rubbing. (Maybe I should be looking under the table?) The only bar I know of where the girls always rub your crotch is LCC. Could someone suggest some other bars where the girls are a bit more "hands on"? [/QUOTE]Well If a girl ever asks me for a lady drink I tell her its not up to me. She then asks what you mean. I then proceed to tell her that it is up to my little friend and she has to be nice to him then she may get a drink.

the brothels on st 63 are not closed to barangs, or at least they weren't in august when i was in phnom penh. one day i was riding by on a tuk-tuk to go elsewhere and all the pimps outside were calling out to get me to stop. the next night i asked a driver where i could find some girls and he took me to street 63. it was one where a lot of them were dressed like schoolgirls, so maybe it was the same one the other poster went to, but it was obvious a lot of the girls were ****, and even though some were clearly old enough, i decided it was better not to get mixed up in that scene at all and left.

Stayed at Pavilion Hotel several months ago. Very comfortable but upon arrival it became immediately apparent that our hobby is not supported within its walls. Permanent sign stating such on the main entrance. Definitely should have read the thread!

NS

[quote=con333;1108962]the brothels on st 63 are not closed to barangs, or at least they weren't in august when i was in phnom penh. one day i was riding by on a tuk-tuk to go elsewhere and all the pimps outside were calling out to get me to stop. the next night i asked a driver where i could find some girls and he took me to street 63. it was one where a lot of them were dressed like schoolgirls, so maybe it was the same one the other poster went to, but it was obvious a lot of the girls were ****, and even though some were clearly old enough, i decided it was better not to get mixed up in that scene at all and left.[/quote]thanks for spilling the beans. now i hope that a raid will not occur.

I stayed at the Flamigos and every morning I took a motorbike to go to the Brown cafe. On several occassions, out of the blue in the middle of a street some guy that I didn't recongnize would wave at me and yell at me and try to catch my attention. Eventually I figured out that those must be viet brothel keepers trying to drum up business from obvious tourists. One of these days I would stop and check the merchandise.

Spaceman

When I was there in the early December, workers were putting finishing touches on the interior. This new disco is right next to the Flamingos hotel. The hotel manager told me that the disco would open by end of December. Does anyone know if it's opened yet? Any report? So many discos a stone-throw away from Heart of Darkness. When I return, I'll make sure I get a room on the other side away from the noise. At closing time, I wonder if the disco would turn into some sort of a Nana parking lot in Bangkok?

Spaceman

Here's another picture of the 63rd street brothel that Shivachandra described. It's a garage-like place with a blue and white striped awning. It's right between Rambo restaurant and a small cafe. If you look at the right side of my picture you can see some of the chairs of the cafe.

Usually there is a pimp right out front trying to hustle customers. They don't seem to mind inviting barang inside.

And if you go about 10 meters further away from Rambo restaurant and cross the street there are several more brothels mixed in with local cafes.

Personally I don't like these type of places, but I include this info for people who might be interested.

[QUOTE=Asianpussylover;1109175]Thanks for spilling the beans. Now I hope that a raid will not occur.[/QUOTE]From all the years I've been to Cambodia, this much I do know.

Don't need to worry about raids being associated with what we do here. Raids occurs mainly as the local gov't give way to pressure from outside do-gooders (NGO, our gov't giving their gov't money to fund advancements in human rights, corruption, etc and they will do raids to show some progress being made).

Our forum have no impact on the overall monger scenes in Cambodia.

Shark

[QUOTE=Shivachandra; 1108642]I choose a very attractive and fresh girl and she accompained me in another room subdivided in 4-5 small boxes with curtains and a small bed inside. At least another customer was present in the place.

She undressed and began to massage my back and then asked me to turn around and continued up to start a hand-massage and then she started with a BJ, etc, etc. Her english was zero but I can say she was passionate. The place was very shabby but the experience was in the complex not bad at all.

I post a picture of the place, took on the next morning. The hotel is just near the bar on the left.

Out the door waiting for me there was the night porter and I offered him a beer bar in the "Rambo", right in front of the hotel, on the other side of St. 184.

He recommended another brothel like a little further toward the central market but on the other side of the St. 63, but according to him was worse than the first.

The next night I visited it. No need to ask because outside there was a guy and he said me if I was looking

For "massage & bum-bum". The request was 20$ but he agreed for 15$. Inside there were 5 girls, maybe older than in the first place but decent. I choose one and the service (and the place) where similar to the first.

Overall. Much better a trip to Patong or Pattaya in Thailand. During all my staty in the country the feeling was to be in a place not so safe, unpleasant.[/QUOTE]You were damn lucky they didn't try to steal anything from you in the room. The last time I visited a brothel in this area they tried to steal everything in my pants.

FZ

[QUOTE=Bartchamdo; 1109194]Here's another picture of the 63rd street brothel that Shivachandra described. It's a garage-like place with a blue and white striped awning. It's right between Rambo restaurant and a small cafe. If you look at the right side of my picture you can see some of the chairs of the cafe.

Usually there is a pimp right out front trying to hustle customers. They don't seem to mind inviting barang inside.

And if you go about 10 meters further away from Rambo restaurant and cross the street there are several more brothels mixed in with local cafes.

Personally I don't like these type of places, but I include this info for people who might be interested. [/QUOTE]This place on your picture and the cafe just beside (some years ago it was a pure brothel) was always avoid during the golden age of street 63. Simply because they had the habit to robbed the barang customers. Just opposite your place you have another brothel. Until 2006 it was the famous Tommy Massage, now the name has change. Just 50 meters before Tommy, the legendary Laylay massage and his 70 girls inside for 5 USD.

Until 2006 the street 63 was a real paradise, barang friendly, in their majority safe, with really cute viet for just 5 USD ST

But now time has change. Barang are not very welcome, robbery toward the few westerners are common. Street 63 is now a place for local mongers.

If you venture in such kind of brothel now, just take what is strictly necessary, let your wallet, mobile, jewel in your hotel

I used to live in Vietnam up to a year ago and used to enjoy PP for a good weekend of relaxed action. I liked the relaxed small town feel of hanging around the river area and ease of going somewhere to pick up.

However, reading this board it seems all gloom and doom. I'm not very demanding: just a relaxed time staying on the river and enjoying some company from Street 136 (such as Candy) or picking up from Walkabout, Martini or Sharkeys or somewhere on 104 such as Rose Bar.

I'm thinking of hanging out in PP again in April. Is it really that dire that I won't have a nice relaxed but good time?

[QUOTE=TrickyTrevor; 1112515]I used to live in Vietnam up to a year ago and used to enjoy PP for a good weekend of relaxed action. I liked the relaxed small town feel of hanging around the river area and ease of going somewhere to pick up.

However, reading this board it seems all gloom and doom. I'm not very demanding: just a relaxed time staying on the river and enjoying some company from Street 136 (such as Candy) or picking up from Walkabout, Martini or Sharkeys or somewhere on 104 such as Rose Bar.

I'm thinking of hanging out in PP again in April. Is it really that dire that I won't have a nice relaxed but good time? [/QUOTE]Brother. Marrow and all these other wingers don't know nuthin'. PP is still a fun and sweet town for mongerin' if you're not stone cold drunk or high on drugs (or both). Common sense prevails for those that love PP. I think that the town still rocks, maybe not as before. But, hey, what do I know? I've only been here since '94.