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Times are tough in Pattaya.
She was one of the first girls I ever barfined at Palace a few years ago.
She said she lost a bit of weight because she had no money do food.
Monkeypaw likes feeding the hungry.
She ate and ate and ate.
Banana?
One of my favorite vault girls. What is a vault girl you might ask? It's the New Blue. And my favorite color always. Power, protection, faith, courage, and strength.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2470788]Imo those who reminisce about the past don't have much going on in their lives right now. I have a married friend who has nothing but domestic living with his wife and kids now and he continually keeps reminiscing about 20 years ago when we were going to nightclubs every night picking up civilian girls.
it is human nature to reminisce about the past. Take a few minutes and read the archives on this board. Guys were complaining in what is now the Good Old Days about how it sucked and was better in the days prior to the Good Old Days!
Since I'm currently stuck outside looking in I say that I sure do miss the Good Old Days of 2016![/QUOTE]So what does the future hold?
Meet Jane.
Jane works Palace as a model.
4 years ago Jane was no model.
Monkeypaw no like at all.
Monkeypaw thinks Jane looked more like Pocahontas back then.
New nose, new chin, new boobs.
Monkeypaw likes now.
Jane needs money.
What to do, what to do?
P.S. Can't let Jane sleep over because last time that happened, Monkeypaw woke up and wondered "who let the cleaning lady in?
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2470858]Times are tough in Pattaya.
She was one of the first girls I ever barfined at Palace a few years ago.
She said she lost a bit of weight because she had no money do food.
Monkeypaw likes feeding the hungry.
She ate and ate and ate.
Banana?
One of my favorite vault girls. What is a vault girl you might ask? It's the New Blue. And my favorite color always. Power, protection, faith, courage, and strength.
[URL]https://noodlemagazine.com/watch/-135240268_456239867[/URL][/QUOTE]This girl has been working in Palace since 2016. Was also one of my first barfines from there but she put on a lotta weight when she had her baby. Slimming down was prob better for her but props to the paw for making sure they are nourished in these trying times.
It's going to be interesting to see what happens in Patters after amnesty ends and all the dudes riding it out are gone. Drain will be open but the tap won't be. Nothing left but locals. How many places will survive? In BKK it is already pretty dire in the P4 P areas after about a week or two of re-opening euphoria. Will be a tough haul I think. Bars, gals, etc will have to rethink their strategies and gear towards residents. And that is a whole different ballgame. Those that are willing to adapt just might make it through. I remember when the bars relied on locals to keep them going through the low season. But that was a long time ago and I would imagine there are very few that remember those times.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2471122]It's going to be interesting to see what happens in Patters after amnesty ends and all the dudes riding it out are gone. Drain will be open but the tap won't be. Nothing left but locals. How many places will survive? In BKK it is already pretty dire in the P4 P areas after about a week or two of re-opening euphoria. Will be a tough haul I think. Bars, gals, etc will have to rethink their strategies and gear towards residents. [/QUOTE]They will probably just go back home again. I was reading an article yesterday where a gogo girl said she will stick it out until high season. Maybe she doesn't realize there is no high season if tourists can not enter the country.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2471126]They will probably just go back home again. I was reading an article yesterday where a gogo girl said she will stick it out until high season. Maybe she doesn't realize there is no high season if tourists can not enter the country.[/QUOTE]I agree with that assessment. Mass tourism will not return till sometime next year it seems. Some oily gals in BKK have already bailed and headed back home. At one of the BJ bars the gals are getting a customer every other day on average. It's amazing how the balance between locals and tourists has changed over my two decade tenure here. The P4 P industry is far more reliant on tourists now. Of course there are more farang dudes living here than there were back in the day (maybe this year has seen a decline), but the vast majority don't monger. In fact, almost none of the younger ones do. They look upon us as dinosaurs or neanderthals.
Haven't been to Patters since before the lockdown. Might head down next week to have a look see.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2470883]So what does the future hold?
Meet Jane.
Jane works Palace as a model.
4 years ago Jane was no model.
Monkeypaw no like at all.
Monkeypaw thinks Jane looked more like Pocahontas back then.
New nose, new chin, new boobs.
Monkeypaw likes now.
Jane needs money.
What to do, what to do?
P.S. Can't let Jane sleep over because last time that happened, Monkeypaw woke up and wondered "who let the cleaning lady in?[/QUOTE]MP, you lucky son of a gun.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2471131]Mass tourism will not return till sometime next year it seems. [/QUOTE]More realistic assessments from airline professionals suggest it will be closer to 2024. By then things will look a lot different. The masses won't be returning to the same places, because the places will have changed to adjust. You can't go home again.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2471122]It's going to be interesting to see what happens in Patters after amnesty ends and all the dudes riding it out are gone. Drain will be open but the tap won't be. Nothing left but locals. How many places will survive? In BKK it is already pretty dire in the P4 P areas after about a week or two of re-opening euphoria. Will be a tough haul I think. Bars, gals, etc will have to rethink their strategies and gear towards residents. And that is a whole different ballgame. Those that are willing to adapt just might make it through. I remember when the bars relied on locals to keep them going through the low season. But that was a long time ago and I would imagine there are very few that remember those times.[/QUOTE]I know a couple of go-go girls who call me to ask if I will be going to their bar tonight, tomorrow, the next day, when and will I please come see them? If I tell them I am not coming to see them, they don't bother traveling into the area and going to work at their bar. If I tell them I will probably come by to see them tonight or whatever, then they come to work that night. LOL. An unintended consequence of the growing "commission-only" system, possibly. If they are on commission-only, then I'm guessing there is no penalty for them not showing up. And unless they know there is a very good chance of being barfined by a trusted customer, they have no reason to ride the train or taxi into the area, suit up and stand on the stage for 4-5 hours.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2471197]If they are on commission-only, then I'm guessing there is no penalty for them not showing up. And unless they know there is a very good chance of being barfined by a trusted customer, they have no reason to ride the train or taxi into the area, suit up and stand on the stage for 4-5 hours.[/QUOTE]Tell me again why they would not just go straight to the trusted customer and skip the bar altogether.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2471201]Tell me again why they would not just go straight to the trusted customer and skip the bar altogether.[/QUOTE]We did that during the shutdown. But not all girls want to freelance and would rather keep their connection to a mamasan and the bar system for the time when they return to salaried pay. And there might still be a reason on some nights, weekends maybe, when there is some income from drink commissions and/or a second customer. That must be compelling enough or there would be no girls in the commision-only go-go bars and they'd all be freelancing. BTW, not all that many customers available being a freelancer these days either.
I could cut out the bar and the mamasan and just have those girls come over in the afternoon or 2-3AM, too, but choose not to do that. For one thing, I'm not so interested in fucking at those times. And for another I really like the service some mamasans have been doing for me even well before the shutdown. Worth the cost of a barfine and a LD for the mamasan, imo. I really don't want to cut out some mamasans. I'd rather keep them doing for me what they do and not rock the boat.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2471201]Tell me again why they would not just go straight to the trusted customer and skip the bar altogether.[/QUOTE]It's not always about the 500 baht. Many like the agogo bar experience.
P.S. What's the atmosphere in Pattaya. Fun times?
In Honolulu it's dreadful.
Lockdown for 3 months. Numbers look good for awhile. Now surging. What's the point of lockdown.
George Soros is laughing his AZZ off. So EZ to decimate the planet.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2471217]It's not always about the 500 baht. Many like the agogo bar experience.[/QUOTE]For me, a go-go bar is the place to see the girls scantily clad, topless or naked before I take them, an opportunity to interact with them on my lap first, with zero chatting on Line required, I take them when I want to have sex with them not after waiting an hour or two due to some unexpected event. And, best of all lately, where a mamasan who knows exactly what I want will bring a new girl to me eager and happy to comply and the mamasan will even confirm it verbally with the girl right in front of me so there will be no confusion about it in the room later.
There is a lot to appreciate about a system like that. Especially when a mamasan in the bar is particularly useful in that way. I am not inclined to piss off such a mamasan or to subjecting myself to a life of annoying inconvenience by cutting out the bar altogether at this time.
In Bangkok at least, those hundreds of go-go bar dancers filling the stages right now weren't around in the food markets, standing on Soi 4, Sukhumvit Road, inside or outside Thermae until a mamasan called them, rounded them up and alerted them to return to Bangkok from their outer province. I am not inclined to cut them out of the deal and the money at this time. Not as long as they perform this job so well.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2471217]It's not always about the 500 baht. Many like the agogo bar experience.[/QUOTE]What? His post was about a girl NOT wanting to dress up and head across town to get on a stage for 4 or 5 hours unless she knew a trusted customer was going to hire her. It was not about whether the customer wanted to go to the gogo bar for an experience and pay a 500 baht bar fine. If she had a trusted customer that was going to take her, she could just call him up and ask to go straight to his place instead.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2471204]We did that during the shutdown. But not all girls want to freelance and would rather keep their connection to a mamasan and the bar system for the time when they return to salaried pay. And there might still be a reason on some nights, weekends maybe, when there is some income from drink commissions and/or a second customer. That must be compelling enough or there would be no girls in the commision-only go-go bars and they'd all be freelancing. [/QUOTE]Okay. So now you are saying they DO have a reason to dress up and head across town to get on stage for 4 or 5 hours without there being a trusted customer that will take them.