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[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2357063]Time For Another Episode Of Blame The Victim.
(This time we switch to the gringo area called Laureles).[/QUOTE]You can't ever seem to let your guard down here, not anywhere. About a year ago I was having dinner with a buddy in Astorga and his backpack got lifted and nobody noticed. Fortunately there was nothing of value in the backpack.
And you are correct, this victim is to blame as he should of known better than to be walking around with his Passport. Mine is locked in my security box in my apartment and only leaves that box when I am leaving the Country.
I have a copy of it with me at all times, and if you carry a photocopy of your Passport along with a photocopy of the page with the stamp and date of entry into Colombia, your not going to have any problems if stopped and asked for ID.
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[QUOTE=Member#2001;2357076]That happened only once and I learn from it. These girls though always want their stuff up front. I get tired of hearing it. Yea pay after or its a no go. Thats what I do in other countries.[/QUOTE] To my mind, demanding payment ahead almost certainly means bad attitude afterwards. I am talking like a 99% likelihood. At that point it don't matter if she looks like Ms Universe for me. Better to cut bait as quickly as possible. If your little head is taking over, open up your fave porn site and look at some pics or clips or something, because the session probably won't eclipse that. Frankly its a blessing in disguise. Best seek clarification ahead.
Gustos is a very ridiculous rip off joint. Its more for the guys that have zero skills or interest in exploring, and want point and click and don't care the price. Psome of tem are there for the weekend or just a couple of days. Even then the reports usually show the prepagos often don't treat their customers that well.
My one time there, i was walking by and the bouncer offered entry free of charge, I spent an hour before chicas started rolling in, I spent about another hour and chatted up a couple of girls and left without listening to nor making an offer. Nothing there seemed to catch my excitement, no authenticity, a lot of silicone and inflated prices. To each their own.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2357053]Looks like you have not learned your lesson. The next time they want you to pay in advance you should walk. Or better still make the deal to pay after during the price discussion so it is never an issue. Never take your clothes off before she does. You can not be so anxious to be getting some pussy that you forget these things, because a hustler is waiting for you to slip.
I was in Tijuana the other day and almost slipped with a street girl. She told me 200 pesos ($10) for her and 60 pesos for the room. As I was paying for the room I thought what the fuck am I doing and caught myself. I quickly told her no clothes and I pay after. She said of course. Turned out to be one of the best sessions I have had down there despite the nonstop messages that her boyfriend kept sending.[/QUOTE]You must of really been out of it in Tijuana Mr. E.
I'm surprised you didn't clarify what was included for those 200 Pesos beforehand. Maybe a few cervezas beforehand perhaps?
The Tijuana street girls are notorious for quoting 200 Pesos which typically includes them only taking off their dress / and or pants, two positions, and 20 minutes. Every time I have been there and they start with the base price of 200 Pesos and then tell me what the add-ONS are for a Blowjob, there top off, more positions, etc. I end up walking. I was down there two weeks ago and it's a shit-hole with all the drugs being dealt on the street and the crooked cops who are looking for any excuse to rip you off. I feel more comfortable walking around El Centro then Cauhilla in Tijuana. At least the cops in Medellin don't fuck with you here, at least that has been my experience.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2357014]I don't think these girls will meet you outside without any deal in place beforehand. I am almost sure they won't meet you at a cafe. That is just not how it works based on my own experience.
Don't expect them to be always on time because they could go radio silent at any time for no reason. Sometimes translator won't work because they will send voice message that you may not understand. Just be prepare to encounter situation like these occasionally.[/QUOTE]Agree it speeds up heading. Healing should be quick, but your risks go up needless to say. So take the needed precautions. Are you near the end of yoir tour of duty? Bummer when at the start.
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2356993]If you're planning on having a session at Gusto it should be interesting. Gusto is a regular night club. There's no sessioning there, no place to session there.
If you decide to go to Gusto, which almost nobody recommends, and you decide to pick up a girl in Gusto, you will pay her after. You will pay her a whole lot afterwards, especially if you don't clarify with her, before you leave Gusto, how much she wants. You need to be very clear on the amount. Unless you're speaking flawless Spanish, the girls will give you prices in dollars. You probably won't encounter this except around Parque Lleras.
Some guys will argue it's not necessary to clarify the currency. You're in Colombia. If someone is giving prices in dollars they should say dollars. However, when a girl in Gusto tells you "300", would you rather take 2 seconds to ask "pesos? Or spend 30 minutes arguing because she wants 300 dollars and you only have 300 k pesos?
Massage parlors are typically paid after. Casas it all depends on which casa. Some you pay in advance. Some you pay after. Strip clubs you pay before.[/QUOTE]Sorry I didn't mean Gustos, I meant to say Fase Dos. I plan to check out Gustos just to see what it's like but I've already decided that I won't be having any sessions there.
So looks like you pay before at Fase Dos then? That's a shame cause I feel because it's a strip club, girls can easily scam by making up some sort of excuse to get away and then not come back if their getting paid before the session.
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I blame the thief.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2357063]Time For Another Episode Of Blame The Victim.
(This time we switch to the gringo area called Laureles).[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2357053]Never take your clothes off before she does.[/QUOTE]Yes. And when you do, place them on the other side of the room opposite of the door. Keep yourself between your items and the exit door. Even if it means putting them on the floor. Prevent quick exits.
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There are great views in Centro too but it is really scuzzy. I love it. I am a Centro rat.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2356665]It's the "Who's the Better Monger" game. There's no real rules, you just pick something you prefer, declare it the best, attack anything you don't prefer and declare yourself the winner.
Of course there is no best way. It's all subjective. No matter how good of a time someone in El Centro is having with a girl, the mongers in Poblado, Laureles, Envigado, Sabaneta, Belen and elsewhere aren't feeling a thing.
There are guys who can't enjoy El Centro. It's outside of their comfort zone. It doesn't benefit them to insist they come to El Centro. It's not helpful to insinuate they're a loser for not staying in El Centro.
There are guys who can't afford El Poblado. Paying $40-$100 a night for a room isn't in their budget. You can tell them about the views and the jacuzzi and the parade of Facebook girls coming through, but it won't help them.
For every spot in Medellin there are some who can't or won't stay there. For every price range of the girls there are some who can't or won't spend the money..[/QUOTE]
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So looks like you pay before at Fase Dos then? That's a shame cause I feel because it's a strip club, girls can easily scam by making up some sort of excuse to get away and then not come back if their getting paid before the session.[/QUOTE]You have to pay the multa to the Bar for the girl to leave with you. Plenty of girls there will say that you need to pay them before can take them back to your place but it isn't true. I have never paid a FASE 2 chick upfront to come back to my place. I pay the multa to get them out of the club and then pay the chick after the deed is done.
If they insist on payment upfront a take a pass. It is actually much better to just get phone numbers and call them up later. If they decide to spend a night with you rather than going to work. Then you have a much better shot at an enjoyable experience compared to just pulling them out the same night you meet them.
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[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2357103]You have to pay the multa to the Bar for the girl to leave with you. Plenty of girls there will say that you need to pay them before can take them back to your place but it isn't true. I have never paid a FASE 2 chick upfront to come back to my place. I pay the multa to get them out of the club and then pay the chick after the deed is done.
If they insist on payment upfront a take a pass. It is actually much better to just get phone numbers and call them up later. If they decide to spend a night with you rather than going to work. Then you have a much better shot at an enjoyable experience compared to just pulling them out the same night you meet them.[/QUOTE]Interesting, thanks.
And what about for when doing the deed at Fase Dos? Do you pay before or after?
Also is this the same protocol for the other strip clubs like La Isla, Loutron, Lana Lunera etc or is it different at each place?
Thanks again.
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Energy
I have found Energy Massage posting on Youtube and it certainly gets my attention. Is there a metro station nearby?
Energy is in the Laureles district and I may well be staying in this area, would a Uber taxi be the best way of getting there.
A fee of 150,000 cop was mentioned earlier, but the poster paid an additional 50,000 cop. Is this tip expected every time?
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[QUOTE=Trojan22;2357085]Sorry I didn't mean Gustos, I meant to say Fase Dos. I plan to check out Gustos just to see what it's like but I've already decided that I won't be having any sessions there.
So looks like you pay before at Fase Dos then? That's a shame cause I feel because it's a strip club, girls can easily scam by making up some sort of excuse to get away and then not come back if their getting paid before the session.[/QUOTE]It doesn't work that way at Fase Dos.
Once you decide on a girl she'll lead you over to where you pay. Then she'll lead you outside to the place next door where the rooms are. You'll go to the window where they'll hand over towels and a condom (there's a charge for the condom) and the girl will take you to the room.
If some girl tries to get you to pay while you're still sitting at the table, she's trying to scam you.
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[QUOTE=JackJonesDtw;2357091]Yes. And when you do, place them on the other side of the room opposite of the door. Keep yourself between your items and the exit door. Even if it means putting them on the floor. Prevent quick exits.[/QUOTE]You've clearly never seen the floors in the rooms in the El Centro strip clubs.
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[QUOTE=Knowledge;2357096]There are great views in Centro too but it is really scuzzy. I love it. I am a Centro rat.[/QUOTE]I love the El Centro views too. Scuzzy has its appeal. It just doesn't appeal to everyone. I've taken guys through El Centro who practically walk around on their toes to keep their shoes from touching anything dirty. Can't imagine how they'd react a few blocks north and west where all the dumpster divers take their garbage to sell.
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2356665]It's the "Who's the Better Monger" game. There's no real rules, you just pick something you prefer, declare it the best, attack anything you don't prefer and declare yourself the winner.
There are guys who can't enjoy El Centro. It's outside of their comfort zone. It doesn't benefit them to insist they come to El Centro. It's not helpful to insinuate they're a loser for not staying in El Centro.
[/QUOTE]Agree. I also think one can have fun and report back without putting down others either directly or passively. IMO, one of the beauties of mongering in MDE is that we all aren't limited to one small area.
Case in point, the pic is from a guy who comes to Medellin to floss and habitually posts about it in the FB groups. Some guys are El Poblado dudes and it's better that way. I have no incentive to steer him to another part of town through social media, youtube, emails, etc., which are often based on information from this forum.