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This seems like good news. The Level 3 bar was bought by the American who owns 69 Rock, and by this walkthrough and his description of plans, sounds like a killer gogo bar, in the middle of walking street.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzJ1QjPbaiE[/URL]
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2920666]Club XS: Definitely not Korean operated. I was told there was one Korean manager, but I've never seen him. The bar is owned by the Wolfpack group. I was told one of the five owners is Korean.
Dragon: Definitely Korean operated. But this bar was purchased by a Black American with a Muslim name. I was told that's why they added a group of girls who wear bikinis. Personally, that's my only complaint with Korean bars; the girls wear dresses.[/QUOTE]Xs bar not Korean operated? I would check you source of wrong information or to actually make an Angeles trip yourself for 1st hand information and to meet the Korean xs bar manager who is there every day.
Just to clear xs bar up for the members, xs bar has got to be the number 1 bar in Angeles for the amount of customers (Koreans) the best dance shows and the most likely bar to have a few ok looking girls (Korean only girls) the xs building main lease is held by the wolfpack group but they sub lease it out to others (Koreans) to run the bar on a day to day basis.
Contrary to your claims greenbud xs bar is 100% a korean run bar.
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2920895]Xs bar not Korean operated? I would check you source of wrong information or to actually make an Angeles trip yourself for 1st hand information and to meet the Korean xs bar manager who is there every day.[/QUOTE]There are no Korean touts in front. Korean papasans do not greet the Korean customers. That should be the definition/non-definition of a Korean operated bar. It seems to be mainly Philipino mamasans that deal with the customers. I will check if there is a Korean manager the next time I am there.
Yes, many of the customers are Korean. But it's on Walking Street with a popular show. Many non Koreans also.
You're being delusional again. The obnoxious PM again. You are so funny. Are you going to claim the manager is your brother in law again? Just like last time in your obnoxious PM. Those things can be checked. You need to claim things that are unverifiable.
[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;2919751]All right fellas I haven't been in AC since 2018 and it sucked girls were already out of shape over priced etc. With that said I back in town now for other reasons and while here decided to check out the scene. Before I give my thought I've only been in tow a one real day as I landed early Sunday morning and didn't hit town until 0400 and I live in Pattaya so I'm comparing it to that so kinda not fair. So with that said here are my thoughts so far at 0400 town was already dead Hammer was dead so went Eclipse which had a decent crowd but no real chick talent. Went to a 24 hour bar that sucked so went to sleep.
Tonight I went to Vikings Dollhouse and Lollipop they all were terrible and to my surprised girls in Vikings and Dollhouse were wearing dresses which I had heard about but thought it was the Korean bars. Lollipop was good back in the day but quality tonight was bad if your a monger I see NO reason to come to Angeles to monger over a place like Bangkok or Pattaya or even Jakarta. The one thing that has been a positive is the food at Rbi steakhouse and the Korean food I had that was good.[/QUOTE]Have to fully agree that angeles has basically died a death and cannot be remotely compared to other nearby Asian mongering destinations.
Lollipop bar as you said has lost its shine big time over the last few years but so have many other western oriented angeles bars, as far as nudity, bikinis, sexy underwear etc well that has not been seen in most angeles bars for some time now, many girls in street clothes, many girls in evening dresses, there is in truth more flesh to be seen on any beach the world over than in the bars of angeles, it is what it is unfortunately.
Am presently in Bangkok on a business trip, not only is the Thai girl talent much younger, slimmer and better looking than their angeles cousins but also the fun factor and energy on stage shown by the Thai girls is far far higher and of course there is lots of topless and nudity in Thai gogos, so would fully agree with you that for the savvy monger an angeles visit makes little sense especially as other destinations offer so much more at similar prices.
All right my Angeles trip is over it was about 4 days I'm currently back in my condo in Pattaya so I'll give my quick thoughts. Things I didn't like the gogos why aside from the ugly ladies they were wearing dresses in a good number of places. I didn't realize Crystal Palace and Brown Sugar are now closed those were some of my favorite places to drink. Then there is Dollhouse and Atlantis one word terrible and these were the main places in years past. Honestly the only positive is Mega Dance went here about 3 times the bottle service girls are cute one had a great ass also the bikini girls if you get one it would be wort it.
Hi Guys, got a business trip lined up in a few months and will have a week in AC again after MNL and maybe a visit to Sabang to catch up with some talented contacts. I normally stay at the Wild Orchid in AC. Yes, it's dated but I've never really had a problem with it. Good food, conveniently located on Blow Row and good staff. Just wondering if ABC is worth the hype? I see their reviews are comparable and ABC is a bit more pricey of the two _ Cheers _ Phil.
[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2921310]Hi Guys, got a business trip lined up in a few months and will have a week in AC again after MNL and maybe a visit to Sabang to catch up with some talented contacts. I normally stay at the Wild Orchid in AC. Yes, it's dated but I've never really had a problem with it. Good food, conveniently located on Blow Row and good staff. Just wondering if ABC is worth the hype? I see their reviews are comparable and ABC is a bit more pricey of the two _ Cheers _ Phil.[/QUOTE]There is no hype about ABC. ABC is a superior hotel plain and simple. Rooms are newer and I am sure the bathrooms with shower and separate tubs are better. Restaurant and aqua Club onsite.
Location to WS is not as good.
ABC will cost you more than WO. If you are satisfied with WO then why change?
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2920997]Am presently in Bangkok on a business trip,[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2920997]of course there is lots of topless and nudity in Thai gogos,[/QUOTE]Lots of full nudity in Thai Go-Gos in Bangkok? Which ones? Please enlighten us. I only know of 4. I am always looking for more of them. I like to have a cold beer in front of naked girls.
Of course, I know you won't answer that question. You've been to Bangkok as many times as you've been to Angeles.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2921453]There is no hype about ABC. ABC is a superior hotel plain and simple. Rooms are newer and I am sure the bathrooms with shower and separate tubs are better. Restaurant and aqua Club onsite.
Location to WS is not as good.
ABC will cost you more than WO. If you are satisfied with WO then why change?[/QUOTE]I think Central Park is a good compromise. Newer and more renovated than Wild Orchid and better located but not as plush as ABC. If easy proximity to WS is important (and why else would you be in that shit hole town anyway?) then better to stay walking distance to most of the bars. Less dealing with Trike Mafia or grab rides. But by all accounts, it seems not worth the trip any more. Go to Cebu or somewhere else instead.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2921490]Lots of full nudity in Thai Go-Gos in Bangkok? Which ones? Please enlighten us. I only know of 4. I am always looking for more of them. I like to have a cold beer in front of naked girls.
Of course, I know you won't answer that question. You've been to Bangkok as many times as you've been to Angeles.[/QUOTE]Been to Bangkok few months ago, I saw topples, and totally nude dancers in Nana Plaza, but compared to Angeles, there is too much going on, too pushy, too aggressive.
[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2921310]Hi Guys, got a business trip lined up in a few months and will have a week in AC again after MNL and maybe a visit to Sabang to catch up with some talented contacts. I normally stay at the Wild Orchid in AC. Yes, it's dated but I've never really had a problem with it. Good food, conveniently located on Blow Row and good staff. Just wondering if ABC is worth the hype? I see their reviews are comparable and ABC is a bit more pricey of the two _ Cheers _ Phil.[/QUOTE]Royal Amsterdam Hotel, is in the best mongering location. Not suitable for long term stays, but perfect for the 1-2 weeks bed activities. Rooms are around 3 K / night.
[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2921558]Royal Amsterdam Hotel, is in the best mongering location. Not suitable for long term stays, but perfect for the 1-2 weeks bed activities. Rooms are around 3 K / night.[/QUOTE]Staff at amsterdam is horrible got a battle axe that runs the front desk, Amsterdam is due for a renovation imo, even their suite has hospital beds or what feels like a hospital bed in them. As grand central hotel is open that is the best option imo, softer beds and better wifi speeds and right now priced lower than amsterdam.
Score birds imo offers the best value in AC in terms of quality, internet and value and if you care about your knees score birds has a working elevator.
Only thing that bothers me about score birds is I guess also why vikings got shut down? The annoying baklas that relentlessly harass you to try to get your dick in their hands / orifice in these massage places during your walk to / from walking street. If you are listening score birds please have a talk with these men and ask them to politely ask maybe once per trip but continuous harassment is not fun.
Score birds should work out a secret walking street exit with some property on the other side imo. Looks like Level 3 is right behind it could work out a deal with the rock bar guy and have "Kama'aina Loyalty" members use this secret shortcut.
[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2921556]in Nana Plaza, but compared to Angeles, there is too much going on, too pushy, too aggressive.[/QUOTE]'too much going on, too pushy, too aggressive'. Angeles? Or Nana Plaza?
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2921490]Lots of full nudity in Thai Go-Gos in Bangkok? Which ones? Please enlighten us. I only know of 4. I am always looking for more of them. I like to have a cold beer in front of naked girls.
Of course, I know you won't answer that question. You've been to Bangkok as many times as you've been to Angeles.[/QUOTE]He might have been having drinks in the LB Go-Go bars with full nudity. I have heard they are full nudity. He could be correct.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2921453]ABC will cost you more than WO. If you are satisfied with WO then why change?[/QUOTE]Thanks Dg, it was just a matter of getting some feedback here on ABC rather than relying fluffy internet reviews, which are lots of google translated Korean reviews. Not so much an issue of changing from WO. Always been happy there. Just checking out alternative options. Phil.