Angeles City

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2921516]I think Central Park is a good compromise. Newer and more renovated than Wild Orchid and better located but not as plush as ABC. If easy proximity to WS is important (and why else would you be in that shit hole town anyway?) then better to stay walking distance to most of the bars. Less dealing with Trike Mafia or grab rides. But by all accounts, it seems not worth the trip any more. Go to Cebu or somewhere else instead.[/QUOTE]Thanks Expat.

Yes, I generally do Cebu more often but it depends on where work takes me.

WO has always been handy with girls I know on Blow Row and I have a good stack of WhatsApp contacts built up over time and lots of trips, so WS isn't my go-to.

Yes, agree, the place is a shithole, but you can definitely have some fun in your downtime. Thanks for the Central Park info. I was basically just looking at all my options and thought I'd ask the question here from those with experience. All is appreciated. Phil.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2921556]Been to Bangkok few months ago, I saw topples, and totally nude dancers in Nana Plaza,[/QUOTE]Which ones? I was there last December. Over the years, there has been a trend in Thailand of eliminating organized, full nudity (less nudity in Bangkok and Pattaya). I've peeked my head into most of the bars in Nana (except several on the second floor, lol); didn't see any.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2921568]'too much going on, too pushy, too aggressive'. Angeles? Or Nana Plaza?[/QUOTE]Nana Plaza.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2921660]Which ones? I was there last December. Over the years, there has been a trend in Thailand of eliminating organized, full nudity (less nudity in Bangkok and Pattaya). I've peeked my head into most of the bars in Nana (except several on the second floor, lol); didn't see any.[/QUOTE]Nana plaza 2nd and 3rd floor, lots of them.

[QUOTE=ThreeInches;2921566]Staff at amsterdam is horrible got a battle axe that runs the front desk, Amsterdam is due for a renovation imo, even their suite has hospital beds or what feels like a hospital bed in them. As grand central hotel is open that is the best option imo, softer beds and better wifi speeds and right now priced lower than amsterdam.

Score birds imo offers the best value in AC in terms of quality, internet and value and if you care about your knees score birds has a working elevator.

Only thing that bothers me about score birds is I guess also why vikings got shut down? The annoying baklas that relentlessly harass you to try to get your dick in their hands / orifice in these massage places during your walk to / from walking street. If you are listening score birds please have a talk with these men and ask them to politely ask maybe once per trip but continuous harassment is not fun.

Score birds should work out a secret walking street exit with some property on the other side imo. Looks like Level 3 is right behind it could work out a deal with the rock bar guy and have "Kama'aina Loyalty" members use this secret shortcut.[/QUOTE]I stayed at both, and to me Royal Amsterdam seems more updated, and closer to western standards.

Front desk, was always nice to me, and the beds are big and hard, not bouncing back when pounding, they have also sofas, with big round armrests, perfect for practicing circus acts. Yes the WiFi is slow sometimes, but when in Angeles, I don't care about TikTok too much, and I didn't turned on the TV for about 20 years now (just some Netflix, and Youtube very rarely, but never while in Angeles).

Of course is always a matter of personal preferences, and past experiences maybe other guys prefer a softer bed, more relaxation and entertainment when indoor.

I'm a bit old world fashioned, and I always give the front desk when I'm checking in a few hundreds pesos to buy chocolates, and when I buy fruit on the street I get a few extras for them, and the porter. When I see the housekeeping girls I pass them 100 pesos, a few dollars doesn't matter for us, but it makes their day a lot brighter. I'm not advertising for them, everybody has preferred places, and places they hate, I'm just relating my experience. Last time I stayed there was last week, and it was very productive, only threesomes, and four hands naked massages, things that I can't have no more since I moved in the province.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2921943]Nana plaza 2nd and 3rd floor, lots of them.[/QUOTE]Only topless. Did they change?

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2921962]Only topless. Did they change?[/QUOTE]I don't know how many times I have to repeat it: NAKED, no clothes on, bare pussy, nude, etc.

Anyway this is the Angeles forum, that was just an observation, related to a side trip, maybe in the Thai forum there is more info about it. I was in BK visiting an old friend, a Thai girl, that lives in the US, and went back to Thailand to extend her nose. She is a pervert (a very sexy one), always wanted to see what's going on inside those bars, but could not go in there by herself, so she dragged me to Nana, Cowboy, and Patpong, inside every single bar, most of them in and out, but we had a few drinks where she wanted to stay longer, and they were always the bars with the naked girls, therefore I replied to the post about no nudity, because I just been there, other wise I don't really care to convince anybody about anything, I'm way past that in my existence. Living on the beach, with a sexy babe beside you, sounds exciting, and it really is, but sometimes it is boring if you had an active lifestyle before that. That's the only reason I'm writing here once in a while.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2921591]Thanks Dg, it was just a matter of getting some feedback here on ABC rather than relying fluffy internet reviews, which are lots of google translated Korean reviews. Not so much an issue of changing from WO. Always been happy there. Just checking out alternative options. Phil.[/QUOTE]You might try ABC for a change up. It is further away from the action. I enjoy ABC even though it costs more. The Koreans do not overrun the place.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2922057]You might try ABC for a change up. It is further away from the action. I enjoy ABC even though it costs more. The Koreans do not overrun the place.[/QUOTE]Thanks DG, I'll look into ABC for future visits. Money isn't too much of a problem for me and I generally save that through not paying bar fines and 'compensating' my contacts directly when I'm in town.

I've booked the WO for another business trip soon. I'll take a look at the ABC when I arrive. Phil.

Hi guys,

This might be a long shot, but we have a lingerie and sex toy business and are always on the look-out for girls to model for us for our social media etc.

I'll be in Angeles soon again and wanted to line up some talent for pics in advance. I was just wondering if there were any Facebook or other pages we could search for local talent that might be interested.

It's definitely a paid gig and I've connected and worked with girls in Sabang before. We are totally professional and don't disclose any of our model's info online, apart from their social info they wish us to share. They were lovely, but didn't necessarily want to be 'stars' as their families may find out.

It's a bit weird as they'll f*ck you for cash, but they're reluctant to follow our advise and helping them to making their way out of poverty.

So basically, if you know of any Angeles pages I could reach out to in advance, it would be very much appreciated. Phil.

[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;2921192]All right my Angeles trip is over it was about 4 days I'm currently back in my condo in Pattaya so I'll give my quick thoughts. Things I didn't like the gogos why aside from the ugly ladies they were wearing dresses in a good number of places. I didn't realize Crystal Palace and Brown Sugar are now closed those were some of my favorite places to drink. Then there is Dollhouse and Atlantis one word terrible and these were the main places in years past. Honestly the only positive is Mega Dance went here about 3 times the bottle service girls are cute one had a great ass also the bikini girls if you get one it would be wort it.[/QUOTE]Yes, many moons back walking st bars atlantis bar, carousel bar, dollhouse bar, club asia were the better bars stocked with multiple young, slim fuckable girls.

Even not on walking st clubs like Dbar, cherries bar and a few others along that strip had many attractive girls to choose from, even as far down perimeter road and a good few km from walking st had great day time bars, mirrors bar, lost in asia bar, after school bar, rodies bar etc, although these were mainly day time bars they were packed with 30,40,50 very fuckable girls in each bar.

Of course back in the day angeles too had topless and naked girls on stage, girls without tats, no phone in hand and a great attitude and big smiles from every girl and of course girls that were not racist and would willingly fuck for a living.

Roll on to todays angeles and as a westerner in angeles its very hard to get any attention or a smile from the better looking slim girls, why well as we all know there are new kings in town that are called asians, many bars have turned from places to find bed partners for the night into places that supply over prices punter drinks and dance shows by want to be princesses.

As far as bars that have closed then yes some have, some only open certain days of the weeks, the biggest suprise is that the massive and excellently placed envy bar and restaurant has closed its doors for good after spending fortunes to open just a short while ago, why, simple, not enough customers.

Last couple of angeles barhops have seen angeles very quiet, that goes for punters and the bar girls, take away the asians and it would turn from very quiet to lights out for angeles bars in truth.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2922047]I don't know how many times I have to repeat it: NAKED, no clothes on, bare pussy, nude, etc.

Anyway this is the Angeles forum, that was just an observation, related to a side trip, maybe in the Thai forum there is more info about it. I was in BK visiting an old friend, a Thai girl, that lives in the US, and went back to Thailand to extend her nose. She is a pervert (a very sexy one), always wanted to see what's going on inside those bars, but could not go in there by herself, so she dragged me to Nana, Cowboy, and Patpong, inside every single bar, most of them in and out, but we had a few drinks where she wanted to stay longer, and they were always the bars with the naked girls, therefore I replied to the post about no nudity, because I just been there, other wise I don't really care to convince anybody about anything, I'm way past that in my existence. Living on the beach, with a sexy babe beside you, sounds exciting, and it really is, but sometimes it is boring if you had an active lifestyle before that. That's the only reason I'm writing here once in a while.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your previous reports, they have been both honest and informative to those members that want to visit angeles.

Are there topless and naked girls in thailand bars, yes indeed, as many have said, are the girls of angeles mainly covered up, yes indeed, Take no notice of members like greenbud and a few others whose sole purpose is to stop members posting their trip thoughts and to be argumentative while offering no boots on the ground info.

Trip reports are very few for angeles, whether positive or negative those that take the time to write them I say well done.

This gringo is going to single-handedly revive the AC bar scene. I look forward to spending lots of money here when I return in a few months.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5imF9Q0T-KU[/URL]

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2923090]Are there topless and naked girls in thailand bars, yes indeed,[/QUOTE]And of course, you can't answer the question, which ones. You probably never been there.

There are no go-go bars in Nana that has full nudity. There are maybe around 4 in Soi Cowboy. This was the case for the last few Decembers; I doubt they change for high season only.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2923090]Take no notice of members like greenbud and a few others whose sole purpose is to stop members posting their trip thoughts and to be argumentative while offering no boots on the ground info.[/QUOTE]Every member should post their travel thoughts. I just correct your falsehoods. It's hard to correct your exaggerations, since much of it is opinion. Funny thing is that I lean toward that side you espouse, but not to the degree you exaggerate towards.

Huh? No boots on the ground info? Obviously, you don't have good reading comprehension. All the people that mentioned you sending them obnoxious PMs are good contributors to this forum. I question yours, with all your falsehoods and exaggerations.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2923499]And of course, you can't answer the question, which ones. You probably never been there.

There are no go-go bars in Nana that has full nudity. There are maybe around 4 in Soi Cowboy. This was the case for the last few Decembers; I doubt they change for high season only.
[/QUOTE]I'm sorry sir but you don't know what you are talking about. I don't know NapaSlapper so I can't vouch for him. However I live in Bangkok and can give boots on the ground information.

There are currently 3 go-go bars in Nana that have full nudity that I'm aware of and there are probably more. Geshia in the tub, Angelwitch on stage and Spankys during shows.

As you stated there are also several in Soi Cowboy. Crazy House, Suzy Wong and Long Gun that I know of and in Baccara the girls are topless with short skirts and no underwear.