Phnom Penh

[QUOTE=TrickyTrevor;1112515]Is it really that dire...?[/QUOTE]Yes.

There are NO (cute: re: thin) girls and the only westerners who live there are the ones who can no longer afford Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Melted11;1112610]PP is still a fun and sweet town for mongerin' if you're not stone cold drunk or high on drugs (or both). Common sense prevails for those that love PP. I think that the town still rocks, maybe not as before. But, hey, what do I know? I've only been here since '94.[/QUOTE]Yes, I am inclined to think this statement is closer to the truth than the end of the world gloom and doom point of view that has lately been promulgated on this forum. The chief proponent of this view has never explained the cause of his negativity. I am sure something (or things) very bad happened to him, but he seems to blame the entire country and all the people for it.

Even back in 2009, before the crackdown in late 2010, some guys were complaining that Penh was no longer good (at least compared to the golden years pre 2001). The main complaints seem to be that it costs more than $5 to get laid and you can't trust Cambodians. If going to 104 street and paying $20-25 for a sweet young Khmer lass for 3 or 4 hours is a bad thing, then there is nothing more I can say. Everybody is entitled to their point of view. As for the trust thing; When I travel, I don't trust anybody, not Thais, Filipinos, Chinese, Americans, or Euros. I just keep my eyes wide open, my nose clean, my powder dry, and I stay away from trouble.

I am sure things were pretty amazing back in those by gone days, but I had an excellent time in March '09. I stayed away in 2010, but now I will be heading back in a few weeks. I expect to enjoy myself, and you can bet your bottom dollar that I will report back as honestly and accurately as possible on what I find. The good, the bad, and the ugly.

[QUOTE=Melted11;1112610]Brother. Marrow and all these other wingers don't know nuthin'. PP is still a fun and sweet town for mongerin' if you're not stone cold drunk or high on drugs (or both).[/QUOTE]Hey I think PP can still be a fun and sweet town for mongerin' even if you're drunk and stoned!

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1112721]The chief proponent of this view has never explained the cause of his negativity.[/QUOTE]That's because that guy is a faker who gives false info. That guy is a pest. I can say that absolutely about the Cambodian thread (Can't really say that for certainty about other countries since I'm not that experienced in Vietnam)

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My trip to Penh is going to be very interesting, because either I am going to have a great time or I am going to be disappointed to some extent. It's no big deal to me if I am disappointed, because my Cambodian excursion is part of a much larger South East Asian itinerary that I have been planning for 6 months. I am almost ready to go to the airport right now!

I will most definitely report back on what I find; the quality of the Khmer girls, their attitude, performance, and specific prices. I will name names. As to my 2009 trip; I paid $20 for 3 to 4 hours of nonstop sex which included multiple soapy showers, multiple BBBJ's, and 3 shags in multiple positions. I report this not to show what a stud I am, but just to give an accurate description of what I experienced. All my Khmer friends were sweet and obliging. The sessions always lasted until I called it quits not the girls. They all seem to intimate that they would have kept on going for more rounds if I had desired it. But after 3 rounds, I was usually pretty satisfied so I would be the one to suggest that we go back to the bar for some drinks. Back at the bar, they always stayed by my side hugging me and kissing me until I had enough of that and I would take my leave and either head to another bar for more adventure or go back to the hotel to get some sleep.

I was very impressed with their attitude and demeanor back in March '09. The only things the girls were not up to was anal and bisexual although I did arrange a ménage one night ($20 per girl). I won't tell you all the girls in the bars were good looking. They weren't. But the ones I bar finned looked pretty good and could definitely hold their own against their Pattaya Go Go sisters. All in all, I spent time with some pretty nice girls. That's why I am going back.

[quote=marrow;1113091]oh, is it a flame i need to expect on every thread, mate? eww, not eighteen kiddos, please.[/quote]was that a freudian slip? are you 18?

[quote=marrow;1113091]someone link to him my intel of cambodia, few pages ago, please. i don't have time for kid flamers.[/quote]what is your writing stye? if it's an exaggeration style, then my apologies and ignore my replies to your post. but it seems that you want other people to believe all your numbers and exaggeration. as another poster wrote, it is better to have no info then incorrect info.

do you have any facts? all you write is "trust me". i know a few jokes on that; lol!

[quote=marrow; 1108215]how can you seriously talk about "crackdown is over"?

right now, on 2011, like i wrote on an other section, police is planning to arrest sexy girls on motorbyke. it's going to be and end, soon, and completely, the prostitution in cambodia. [/quote]crackdown is over. what was open in 2009 that is currently closed? (except for shops moving)

come on! lol! no one on this board knows what's going to happen in 2011; even the people in charge don't know; it depends on the political situation.

prostitution is a major part of the economy; rich people will lose money if they stop it.

[quote=marrow;1108459]st63 was close to barang, not khmer, on 2010, expecially rich, trust me.[/quote]during the crackdown, street 63 brothels and others were closed to all.

rich khmers do not go to shack brothels. i have never seen a lexus out in front. my moto-driver goes there. during the crackdown, it was closed to barangs and transport drivers (transport drivers are good sources of info only if you have used them previously, and they know that they can't scam you). how do you know it was open? you know rich khmers who like to do $5 shags?

on a side note, the $5 shag for locals is different from the $10 price for barangs. the locals are expected to quickly finish.

[quote=marrow;1108461]never try to hang around far (a few) from the center? u will see, like saigon, a lot of sexy superb viets hanging around on motorbyke going to fuck khmer customers on hotel or house. don't waste your time, they speak viet and khmer, either the driver. you can ask one, the price is 50-100$ (real price. 5-10$ for khmer). high quality, obiouvsly (performance from discrete to middle-high)[/quote]there is no moto-bike scene like the old days of saigon's district 1. pimps or moto-dope drivers will drive girls to your hotel. i've seen a male pimp and couple fls around their moto-bikes parked at the park or on the street.

yes, i have been all around phnom penh, away from the center. please tell us where they ride around constantly waiting around to be picked up; something that i have never read or heard about.

[quote=marrow;1108215]like a not so lucky aussie i met in sihanoukville, arrested after 5 meters from the pusher with his little bag. i heard the pusher speaking khmer on the phone, he was calling a policeman, his friend. he gave to him 20 bucks for call. no he wasn't a policeman, just a motherfucker, typical meeting in cambodia.[/quote]seems like a bogus story. slightly more believable if it was opium and not weed.

so do you speak khmer or does the aussie speaks khmer? anyway, it's not as bad as before, but it would be a death wish for that poor drug pusher if he did that in the open. do you understand how it works in cambodia? money is still power in cambodia. in angeles, i would be scared to get into an argument with a trike driver; in cambodia, i am not scare of any tuk-tuk driver or any other poor person (i am not talking about that pyscho who comes at you with a knife).

[quote=marrow;1108459]no, never said you're ignorant or blind. just lucky. bad days, happens. spies and police are waiting the best moment, for catch the regulars. asking as much as possible. after, will be a daily tip. beware.[/quote]police are not waiting to shake down the tourist for weed. how did you hear about this? none of the stoner ex-pats i've met have heard about this. daily tip? lol! you pay one bribe. never heard of this in any country, any bribe, or any offense. normally the tourist will leave the country.

[quote=marrow; 1108215]just a tip. 90% of foreigners hanging around in cambodia are spy or related to ngos, the purpose is arrest you.

most of their tips, lead you to jail or troubles. [/quote]what are you talking about! 90% lol! there are so many sex-pats living in cambodia. even the people that work there won't care.

how can you get in trouble if you ask for ideas in getting legal pussy? are you skitzo paranoid in believing that they'll point you to a brothel with dubious aged girls; i doubt that will happen. if that occurs, walk away from the viewing room.

are you talking about getting 5 year olds? if so, then even the sex-pats will want to kick your ass!


note: i'm not saying that cambodia is all that great and fantastic. some/many people will not like it. it is still a third world shit-hole. many streets are dirty; many beggers/sellers are still around and annoy you; people still overcharge/scam you. traffic is getting worst. crime level isn't as safe as vietnam, but it isn't that bad as the philippines; you still need to be careful since barangs are a target with their few dollars in their pocket.

prices have gone up. talent is marginal, but still not that bad; you can still find decent gems (you can go to the high class places and pay a lot of money for the guaranteed cute talent). maybe they stopped the fresh talent coming in from vietnam. barangs (and now some middle-class locals) are being arrested for **** activities; so you need to be careful; when in doubt, pass!

but if you do "legal" stuff and are willing to negotiate and pay between $10-$100 and accept the good with the bad, then it isn't that bad.

the vitriool thrown on this cambodia board between members is very regrettable. it will help nobody.

street 63, the stretch between streets 214 and 178, you will find about a dozen brothels 10 bucks to fuck if you are in for this, just open your eyes and you will see these places, especially look for doors open only 70/80 centimeter.

want to for less then 10 bucks, no need to go outside town, just follow the riverside up to the japanese bridge, on your left hand side of the road you will find half a dozen.

but why? not safe and not much quality to be found, so.

all massage places from the old days still closed and will never open again, but. these girls have to be somewhere. so, be adventurous, be courageous and discover. go out, go into any massage place you like and find out what you will get. in a) you just get a massage, and then suddenly in be) you get all you can dream for.

be adventurous. be careful but don't be afraid.

the area around the american embassy, or what phnom, careful! in the last days i saw plenty! of **** hookers there, plenty! definately ****. watch out! better stay away. many coppers there! in that; broader area; many more sw, also ladyboys (now presenting themselves on the back of motos).

and of course you still have the freelancer places sharky, martini, walkabout ect. many more are there.

plenty of hostess bars around, plenty.

prices today? st 10/15, lt 20/30 for the freelancers, expect higher demand for money from the hostesses.

massage places away from tourist area around 2/4 dollars, and if they are in to give you more then just the ordinary massage, remember the prices above and you will be fine. 10 bucks goes a long strech in cambodia, where abject poverty is the order of the day for many. so be gracious. but don't overpay.

and please, fellow members, stop the vitriool, lets be gracious to eachother, lets help one another.

[QUOTE=Camboblowshooter; 1113379]The vitriool thrown on this Cambodia board between members is very regrettable. It will help nobody.[/quote]Interesting reading. Certainly the more measured, optimistic posts were what I suspected and expierienced on my previous couple of visits to PP.

Call me dull, but I don't mind doing my sniffing around in the well known freelance places (Martini, Sharkeys, Walkabout) or hostess bars on the 136 or 104 strip. Whilst I don't want to be ripped off, I can afford to pay more than $10 and be happy in the knowledge I'm not doing anything illegal or unduly risky.

Does anyone have any particular favorites when it comes to the hostess bars?

Good luck to you all.

[QUOTE=TrickyTrevor; 1113536]Interesting reading. Certainly the more measured, optimistic posts were what I suspected and expierienced on my previous couple of visits to PP.

Call me dull, but I don't mind doing my sniffing around in the well known freelance places (Martini, Sharkeys, Walkabout) or hostess bars on the 136 or 104 strip. Whilst I don't want to be ripped off, I can afford to pay more than $10 and be happy in the knowledge I'm not doing anything illegal or unduly risky.

Does anyone have any particular favorites when it comes to the hostess bars?

Good luck to you all. [/QUOTE]Barbados on 130 is a great little place for high quality. $10 BF, no pressure for lady drinks, but seated massaging with small tips in mind.

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[QUOTE=Camboblowshooter; 1113379]So be gracious. But don't overpay.

And please, fellow members, stop the vitriool, lets be gracious to eachother, lets help one another. [/QUOTE]Agree, and very good advice (and good informative post to add).

Wish everyone will heed your advice and post info and good as yours.

Cheers and beers.

FZ

Appreciations to you Jackson!

The "[b]fumigation[/b]" was necessary on several threads. Hopefully now, in future we read some positive feedback on charming Phnom Penh. LOL. Thumbs up!

[QUOTE=Freezone; 1111501]You were damn lucky they didn't try to steal anything from you in the room. The last time I visited a brothel in this area they tried to steal everything in my pants.

FZ[/QUOTE]It was my first time in Cambodia and before the trip I read (may be too many) bad stories of stolen wallets / stolen cameras / phones / etc. So every day at any hour of the day I had with me only a photocopy of passport, max. 30$ (in a inside-pocket) , my phone and some thousands in local currency. Anyway I didn't see any dangerous situation

[QUOTE=Shivachandra;1115194]It was my first time in Cambodia and before the trip I read (may be too many) bad stories of stolen wallets / stolen cameras / phones / etc. So every day at any hour of the day I had with me only a photocopy of passport, max. 30$ (in a inside-pocket) , my phone and some thousands in local currency. Anyway I didn't see any dangerous situation[/QUOTE]That's how danger works: you never see it. Until you see it. I went to PP a bunch of times with no incidents at all, not even close. Then one day I got taken to a massage place and was in the middle of getting my "massage" when I glanced up at the door to see a hand reach in and grab my trousers off the hook they were hanging on. I yelled out (the hand disappeared quickly without taking the trousers) and ran outside immediately. So even though nothing has happened to you, better remain vigilant and heed warnings posted here. I've heard some very nasty stories about friends of friends. The dangers are real. But as long as you're cautious, not more dangerous than big cities in our own countries. But I don't take my laptop to places like Phnom Penh where I'd be out of my room with no way to certainly protect it.