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Just wondering guys, How often do you guys meet girls that claim to be virgins but nothing about their attitude resembles it. I'm talking to a couple 18 and 19 year olds that claim to be and want to lose their virginity but I don't believe them LOL just wondering if this is a common tactic young filipinas deploy.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2927468]Thanks for your input. However I have known of this girl for a few years and her cousins. I am certain of her age along with seeing her ID a month before this happening. Of course always use caution. I would not go with an 18 yo without real verification.[/QUOTE]To build a network like this you have to live there right? It's not possible for someone that visits for 4 weeks out of the year.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2927882]Recently I had to get a 29 day visa extension. [/QUOTE]FYI Immigration changed the time needed for extensions, before the rule was you could only extend it 7 days ahead of time or less. They must have had lots of issues with rush extensions so the new rule is minimum 10 (days to get an extension. If you walk in to immigration yourself you are automatically charged an extra 1000 for 'fast service'. If you use a visa agent who does the 5 day turnaround service you get the 1800 peso extension fee plus you pay the service fee of 600 pesos. After your first extension your allowed to get a 6 month extension but only in Manila and Cebu main office. 583 immigration here in Angeles will run your passport down to Manila for the 6 month service. And they'll also run your passport down to the US embassy and get you a new passport. I'd suggest doing a 6 month extension and then applying for a new passport if you need one.
[QUOTE=TwentyTwoTwos;2927925]Just wondering guys, How often do you guys meet girls that claim to be virgins but nothing about their attitude resembles it. I'm talking to a couple 18 and 19 year olds that claim to be and want to lose their virginity but I don't believe them LOL just wondering if this is a common tactic young filipinas deploy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TwentyTwoTwos;2927955]To build a network like this you have to live there right? It's not possible for someone that visits for 4 weeks out of the year.[/QUOTE]Girls love be to live in a fantasy land. It's very common for them to pretend to be good girls while sucking dick at any opportunity. Many girls remain virgins far longer than in the west* but many also like to maintain an illusion. Remember, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's not a zebra.
No you don't. It certainly helps but isn't essential. I'm not a resident now but have numbers I can call on upon arrival. You do need to be a repeat visitor though. Otherwise there is no way / reason to keep old numbers of preferred contacts. A pro tip is to train them that you are generous while in town but do not entertain calls, messages etc while back home. You don't need, and there is no benefit to, answering requests for assistance when you return home.
Maintaining that network is easy in the big cities where there is a stable population but harder in places like AC where girls are coming and leaving all the time. Just because a girl was great and gave you her number last trip, does not mean that she will still be there next time.
Enjoy. G.
P.S. * These girls will also be living a modest life in other ways too. She is unlikely to be in a gogo at 3 am in a Tuesday night, covered in tramp stamp tatts, drink alcohol like a fish of have friends who are all hookers. Girls aren't good for one aspect of their life and a wild child everywhere else.
[QUOTE=TwentyTwoTwos;2927955]To build a network like this you have to live there right? It's not possible for someone that visits for 4 weeks out of the year.[/QUOTE]You don't have to live here. You have to visit here. You can easily build a network the first week you are here. You have to be a nice person for a girl to recommend you to others, once she realizes you are not going to be your boyfriend. You also can't be a Cheap Charlie. Gift your girls somewhere a little less than a barfine amount. Ie. 3. 5 k to 4 k. Works for me.
Most girls here are novices from the provinces and will bring their provinces friends or cousins over. Let them swim in your hotel pool. Buy a few meals. You are here for a few weeks. Enjoy them. They are only here to fed their families back home. Don't listen to naysayers. Develop your own style. Be yourself. Let go of your problems and issues while you are here. Don't worry you will still have them back home. Problems and issues can be on hold. I knew of a person who couldn't let go and had a miserable time here.
BTW, the Koreans do not have all the prettiest girls.
[QUOTE=TwentyTwoTwos;2927925]Just wondering guys, How often do you guys meet girls that claim to be virgins but nothing about their attitude resembles it. I'm talking to a couple 18 and 19 year olds that claim to be and want to lose their virginity but I don't believe them[/QUOTE]Ummm, Warning signs maybe? It's basically a game for us and a game for the girls. They'll tell the new and uninitiated anything they want to hear. I've seen so many guys fall for it and do their balls over a girl who is hitting up on every other potential cash machine at the same time. If you're 'talking' to these girls online, then you're wasting your time in my opinion. Phil.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2928014]Girls love be to live in a fantasy land. It's very common for them to pretend to be good girls while sucking dick at any opportunity. Many girls remain virgins far longer than in the west* but many also like to maintain an illusion. Remember, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's not a zebra.
No you don't. It certainly helps but isn't essential. I'm not a resident now but have numbers I can call on upon arrival. You do need to be a repeat visitor though. Otherwise there is no way / reason to keep old numbers of preferred contacts. A pro tip is to train them that you are generous while in town but do not entertain calls, messages etc while back home. You don't need, and there is no benefit to, answering requests for assistance when you return home.
Maintaining that network is easy in the big cities where there is a stable population but harder in places like AC where girls are coming and leaving all the time. Just because a girl was great and gave you her number last trip, does not mean that she will still be there next time.
Enjoy. G.
P.S. * These girls will also be living a modest life in other ways too. She is unlikely to be in a gogo at 3 am in a Tuesday night, covered in tramp stamp tatts, drink alcohol like a fish of have friends who are all hookers. Girls aren't good for one aspect of their life and a wild child everywhere else.[/QUOTE]Couldn't have a said it better G. I visit on business 4 times a year, and only tonight I had a message from one of my contacts wondering when 'Sir' was coming back to town. You don't have to live in the Phils, but frequent visits make sex on tap possible when you return if you make contacts previously. For others looking to gain some contacts when in the Phils, keep in mind it's best you look as smart as you can (use deodorant. So many girl's have told me foreigners don't smell that great). Most of my contacts have nothing to do with the typical bar scene. For example, hotel staff and security staff hook-ups / referrals have been great. Even a taxi driver's niece. And there's no bar fines to worry about. Phil.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2928014]Girls love be to live in a fantasy land. It's very common for them to pretend to be good girls while sucking dick at any opportunity. Many girls remain virgins far longer than in the west* but many also like to maintain an illusion. Remember, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's not a zebra.
No you don't. It certainly helps but isn't essential. I'm not a resident now but have numbers I can call on upon arrival. You do need to be a repeat visitor though. Otherwise there is no way / reason to keep old numbers of preferred contacts. A pro tip is to train them that you are generous while in town but do not entertain calls, messages etc while back home. You don't need, and there is no benefit to, answering requests for assistance when you return home.
Maintaining that network is easy in the big cities where there is a stable population but harder in places like AC where girls are coming and leaving all the time. Just because a girl was great and gave you her number last trip, does not mean that she will still be there next time..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response! Recently I've been vetting a lot of girls for my trip in about 2 months but the communication falls apart when I tell them I don't have any money for them. One girl started giving me one word answers and I had a fallout with another one and blocked her. After reading your post I realized maybe I shouldn't have burned the bridge before I banged her. I thought maybe the guys on this forum vet for girls as close to a week before landing because you can only tell a girl you don't have money for her for so long until she hates you. You need to get there quick. Or maybe most of them live there.
[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2928119]Most of my contacts have nothing to do with the typical bar scene. For example, hotel staff and security staff hook-ups / referrals have been great. Even a taxi driver's niece. [/QUOTE]Don't forget simply walking down the street and politely saying Hello,. I'm constantly amazed by the number of guys who think that the only available girls are in a gogo, strutting around a chrome pole at 3 am.
G.
[QUOTE=TwentyTwoTwos;2928126]..Recently I've been vetting a lot of girls for my trip in about 2 months but the communication falls apart when I tell them I don't have any money for them....[/QUOTE]Insert dramatic music. "And that's where he fucked up. ".
There is no need, or benefit, to start chatting months out. It just provides time for buffalo to die and requests to start rolling in. Much better to be boots on ground and to ask to meet now or after work.
My attempt at copious pre-work:
[QUOTE=Goferring;2267691]That's it, I'm soooo done putting in ground work on the online hookup sites!
[/QUOTE]This is doubly applicable if you're not even going to pay them once you are here. There certainly are freebies but there needs to be some benefit to her for meeting you. It can be straight out cash, it can be a nice meal and a night out, it might be you're a good looking guy, have a nice personality and are socially acceptable. Have you heard the saying "ass, grass or cash" as what is expected for helping a girl? Well this is the opposite.
If you do insist on chatting with her for months, then here needs to be reasons for her to do so.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=TwentyTwoTwos;2928126]Recently I've been vetting a lot of girls for my trip in about 2 months but the communication falls apart when I tell them I don't have any money for them. One girl started giving me one word answers and I had a fallout with another one and blocked her. [/QUOTE]Ding! Ding! Ding! Isn't this the story of gals everywhere?
[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2928112]Ummm, Warning signs maybe? It's basically a game for us and a game for the girls. They'll tell the new and uninitiated anything they want to hear. I've seen so many guys fall for it and do their balls over a girl who is hitting up on every other potential cash machine at the same time. If you're 'talking' to these girls online, then you're wasting your time in my opinion. Phil.[/QUOTE]While some fantasists believe in the fairy tales the online girls spin most expats or seasoned visitors know that most of it is bull at best.
I have always said that when a pinays lips are moving she is 99% lying or bullshiting, its a national past time in the phills.
A word about online girls, yes there are many girls online, many girls that are willing to meet old foreigners for a nice meal and a fist full of dollars in exchange to see the colour of their panties, well guys, I think in most parts of the world they call these type of girls paid prostitutes, yet here in angeles some believe these type of girls are good girls and even virgins.
Fully agree with those that say good girl pinays can be found on occasion like girls that hold down a regular job like accounts, sales, bank, etc by approaching with caution and a smile or a Hello, What is important to note that although possible to meet good girls large age differences, looks differences are just not tolerated except in the fantasies of some.
Want a good girl pinay wife / girlfriend then one has to choose a girl of fairly similar age and looks (10-15 years age difference might be do able) but seldom more, one also has to put in the time to court such a girl, might have to wait weeks or months to get some action if at all, pretty much the same as any country the world over.
[QUOTE=TwentyTwoTwos;2928126]Thanks for the response! Recently I've been vetting a lot of girls for my trip in about 2 months but the communication falls apart when I tell them I don't have any money for them. One girl started giving me one word answers and I had a fallout with another one and blocked her. After reading your post I realized maybe I shouldn't have burned the bridge before I banged her. I thought maybe the guys on this forum vet for girls as close to a week before landing because you can only tell a girl you don't have money for her for so long until she hates you. You need to get there quick. Or maybe most of them live there.[/QUOTE]You are wasting their time and ours. Go watch some porno. Instead of jerking off onlne. You say you are going to go to the Philippines and won't even say how much you will pay or even pay something up front. Do you do that in your local butcher's, leer over the dead meat and waste the butcher's time while they are trying to service paying customers? Why do you expect Pinay hookers to waster time fulfilling your fantasies onlne when they have heard 10000 otehr losers say your very same words before.
You are a tire kicker. If you ain't buying, jog on.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2928190]Don't forget simply walking down the street and politely saying Hello,. I'm constantly amazed by the number of guys who think that the only available girls are in a gogo, strutting around a chrome pole at 3 am.
G.[/QUOTE]No need to worry about that G. Agreed _ A good walk has resulted in some amazing results. And continues to do so, even in the middle of the day or late afternoon. A simple 'kumusta' generally breaks the ice and then you're in. My experience over many years has been, if you know some basic Tagalog, it's to your advantage _ Phil.
Has anyone porked any of the street walkers who set up shop outside the Roman Hotel at the back of Johnnys. Pork famously goes off in hot weather and I am sure these veterans carry a dose or two of the pox. I have passed up those roads (there are a number of them) during the day and have kept my eyes averted. I have used Roman at night for short term and there are always plenty of freelancers about it but I have never loitered. Some have tried to ask to join my litle sex sessions but I always got the feeling they have seriouss drug, STI or other issues. Maybe I am just being snobbish, as well as curious.