Angeles City

[QUOTE=Goferring;2930328]Yes, you can get girls' numbers in many bars. Officially bars don't allow it but it happens. Just don't be too blatant about it lest it cause some issues for the girl.
Good luck. G.[/QUOTE]Great feedback G. I've been discreet 'off the books' and honestly, once the girls are working outside of their 'restrictions' it's a much better personal service at a better price. They all do WhatsApp. From experience, they'll all work freelance unless they're 'raw' and don't want to jeopardize their relationship with their new pimp / bar owner / mama. Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2930826]Great feedback G. I've been discreet 'off the books' and honestly, once the girls are working outside of their 'restrictions' it's a much better personal service at a better price. They all do WhatsApp. From experience, they'll all work freelance unless they're 'raw' and don't want to jeopardize their relationship with their new pimp / bar owner / mama. Phil.[/QUOTE]Be extremely discreet getting numbers in the bar. As NS stated earlier that the Filipino bouncers will drag you out into the street and best the hell out of you. Just because I haven't been beaten nor have I ever seen a besting taking place on WS doesn't mean NS isn't telling the truth.

[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2930466]Fun game. Ask the girls what some of the lines from the song mean. You would be surprised how many don't know what a "poker face" is.[/QUOTE]They probably assume it is what the client does to them once they get to ABC.

[QUOTE=ILuvBrownGirls;2930421]If you have been going to AC for any period of time, there are songs that in an instant bring you back to trike fumes and freshly shaved brown pussy. Here are my honorable mentions:

1. Dangerous by Roxette (definitely a song that generations of bargirls have danced to).

2. Shoot to Thrill by AC / DC.

3. Empire State of Mind by Jay-Z.

4. We No Speak Americano by DCUP and Yolanda Be Cool.

5. Poker Face by Lady Gaga.

I know some of these are kinda dated but Dangerous is still in heavy rotation.

Add to the list![/QUOTE]6. Hotel California.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2930000]
100% agree that angeles is now a korean town, they are 100% the new kings, they control the few better looking, slimmer, younger girls.

Mr westerner has to unfortunately settle for what the koreans reject in order to get any attention or to get laid in the bars of angeles, it is what it is comes to mind.[/QUOTE]Whats interesting is the Korean barfine for short time can be as low as 3000, sometimes 3500 for 3 hours. Compare that to the western bars prices at 5000 and the girls only want to do one shot it might make sense to take some of the leftovers.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2930907]Be extremely discreet getting numbers in the bar. As NS stated earlier that the Filipino bouncers will drag you out into the street and best the hell out of you. Just because I haven't been beaten nor have I ever seen a besting taking place on WS doesn't mean NS isn't telling the truth.[/QUOTE]Agree DG, not necessarily getting their details in a bar.

It's when you get them back into your room, you get their details.

Then you can negotiate off-site for future hook-ups.

I've had at least eight contacts lined up this way. It's now a personal mutual 'negotiation' and works out fine as the girl gets all my cash. I don't have to pay bar fines, hugely unreasonably prices for lady drinks that are basically fruit juice, and then the bar tender putting his hand out for money too.

If the girls are better off from my contribution, I'm happy with that _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2931058]Agree DG, not necessarily getting their details in a bar.

It's when you get them back into your room, you get their details.

Then you can negotiate off-site for future hook-ups.

I've had at least eight contacts lined up this way. It's now a personal mutual 'negotiation' and works out fine as the girl gets all my cash. I don't have to pay bar fines, hugely unreasonably prices
for lady drinks that are basically fruit juice, and then the bar tender putting his hand out for money too.

If the girls are better off from my contribution, I'm happy with that _ Phil.[/QUOTE]Last I went a few years ago, I was able to get many numbers from the bars. It was discreetly, but everyone could see we both had our phones out. It was after the bars closed and I saw the girl on the street, with a mamasan behind that she made a fuss. It looked like I was picking her up right after the bar closed, in front of everyone, but it was.

Coincidence I woke up late and was looking for fun. After hour or so, messaged her and she could join me before work. If you do try to get numbers at the bar, you'll want to tip the staff and mamasan. Probably won't be cheaper than buying drinks but you can negotiate a bit off the bar fine. However, I don't think it's necessary, you'll waste a lot of time trying to get her after the bar closes. I prefer LT so if you see her next day, it'll be ST. And the diff will be around $20 usd. That's best about PH, everything is for LT, most of time. Enjoy, collect all the numbers you can.

Topics probably popped up several times.

I've stayed at Scores, Prime, and Penthouse.

Score birds is basic, and I got the lowest levels of rooms and hated it. No window and the cable tv never really worked.

Penthouse was close by, but the rooms were not the same as photos. But run down. But on Santos and close to walking street and mega.

Prime Asia was the better hotels I've stayed in, but it was farther out from walking street. I took 6 girls back after mega club and getting trikes back wasn't fun. Plus, they were strict with IDs and at the time vaccinations.

I am looking at Dalian Peak as next place to stay on my trip. Any recommendations? I've read Grand Central Hotel as a popular one?

Is ABC worth the extra cash? The daytime pool seems a fun time since not much goes on during the day.

[QUOTE=Breadman;2930928]Whats interesting is the Korean barfine for short time can be as low as 3000, sometimes 3500 for 3 hours. Compare that to the western bars prices at 5000 and the girls only want to do one shot it might make sense to take some of the leftovers.[/QUOTE]Wasn't barfine always for LT? I barfined girls from XS, they were most $$. But had great attitudes, spoke English, down to party, and for LT. Has the game changed that much? But other spots were still 3-4 K LT from bars. I get prices going up, but services should be the same. First time in PH, bar fines were 2 k, and 3 k in the popular places. Yet everything was LT. Although there were lots of Koreans last time I was there, there were still plenty fish in the sea. Sometimes I think it's bc I see the girl alone, that she's soo f-in hot. But in the line up, it makes it harder to judge. I'm hoping I can still grab a girl and enjoy her all night til morning, or has that changed?

Central Park is absolutely the best hotel if you're looking for an upscale hotel near walking street. It just can't be beat. Have stayed other places, but never will again.

[QUOTE=Mushuu09;2931362]Topics probably popped up several times.

I've stayed at Scores, Prime, and Penthouse.

Score birds is basic, and I got the lowest levels of rooms and hated it. No window and the cable tv never really worked.

Penthouse was close by, but the rooms were not the same as photos. But run down. But on Santos and close to walking street and mega.

Prime Asia was the better hotels I've stayed in, but it was farther out from walking street. I took 6 girls back after mega club and getting trikes back wasn't fun. Plus, they were strict with IDs and at the time vaccinations.

I am looking at Dalian Peak as next place to stay on my trip. Any recommendations? I've read Grand Central Hotel as a popular one?

Is ABC worth the extra cash? The daytime pool seems a fun time since not much goes on during the day.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mushuu09;2931370]Wasn't barfine always for LT? I barfined girls from XS, they were most $$. But had great attitudes, spoke English, down to party, and for LT. Has the game changed that much? But other spots were still 3-4 K LT from bars. I get prices going up, but services should be the same. First time in PH, bar fines were 2 k, and 3 k in the popular places. Yet everything was LT. Although there were lots of Koreans last time I was there, there were still plenty fish in the sea. Sometimes I think it's bc I see the girl alone, that she's soo f-in hot. But in the line up, it makes it harder to judge. I'm hoping I can still grab a girl and enjoy her all night til morning, or has that changed?[/QUOTE]Mushuu, if you read AC posts and reports closely from the past couple years it should be crystal clear. Even if the bros don't all agree on the current state, and a good time can still be had in AC depending on your pocketbook and patience, things aint what they used to be. Overnight is far from guaranteed. Only single prices, 4-6 k, generally given now, often meaning 1-3 hours. Girls might smile and say sure to overnight before you BF at the bar and then run like hell the moment your first shot comes out at the hotel. Absolutely no guarantees or remedies from bars, mamasans, or managers.

Overnight is still possible but less likely and shitloads more work. Leverage is all with the girl once BF is paid, except for the carrot of a morning tip that you hold in front of her, but younger girls don't seem to care about that once the BF is paid.

In addition to Central Park, Wild Orchid and Queens are good options with better pool areas, good security, and decent atmosphere. Look forward to seeing your reports.

The best bars in Angeles City are the Korean bars, the worst bars in Angeles City are the Korean bars.

This is not to denigrate or criticize any one person group or nation. I have met some great Koreans some great Koreans bar owners and managers. But unless you are Korean you can write off getting any of the top looking women. The system in the Korean bars is Great. The manager / supervisor always come to your assistance help you pick out a girl and the girls are always compliment agreeable friendly and willing to bar fine with you except for when they are not. They will turn their nose up at you and have nothing to do with you if you are not Korean. In the western bars you are single Charly no one comes to your side to help you get a girl and the girls in the western bars all seem stuck up and don't even notice you, you are invisible unless you are super hansom. I have a 0. 0% success rate at getting any girl from the wolf hound group of bars the doll house group %.

(What's left of them) Or the mieko group of bars. I have. 60% success rate in the Korean bars. Unless you are Korean or super super hansom you can write off getting girls in Angeles City.

So you are what? 60% Korean? Sounds like you are arguing with yourself.

So I'm here feet on the ground in AC for a few days. First thing, the weather is really bad now, there's a typhoon around apparently, so been raining pretty hard since I got here. In addition to that, walking street is being re surfaced as previously mentioned, so it a bit of a wet mess. You could name a bar after it. The Envy bar and hotel is all closed, but manned by security staff and has apparently been bought by Hammer organisation with a view to reopening sometime. My guests so far have been from PL, freelancers but probably amateur and not as well worn as the streetwalkers. Happy to visit for a couple of hours for 2 or 3 k, all night for 5 k, they like to try to bring their friends and "relatives" along too which is nice sometimes. Haven't ventured into any bars yet, will report back later on that.

It's hard to understand why westerners still bothering about AC. Quality / price; travel, food, accomodation expensive in addition. Strange.

[QUOTE=Volterra;2931513]Mushuu, if you read AC posts and reports closely from the past couple years it should be crystal clear. Even if the bros don't all agree on the current state, and a good time can still be had in AC depending on your pocketbook and patience, things aint what they used to be. Overnight is far from guaranteed. Only single prices, 4-6 k, generally given now, often meaning 1-3 hours. Girls might smile and say sure to overnight before you BF at the bar and then run like hell the moment your first shot comes out at the hotel. Absolutely no guarantees or remedies from bars, mamasans, or managers.

Overnight is still possible but less likely and shitloads more work. Leverage is all with the girl once BF is paid, except for the carrot of a morning tip that you hold in front of her, but younger girls don't seem to care about that once the BF is paid.

In addition to Central Park, Wild Orchid and Queens are good options with better pool areas, good security, and decent atmosphere. Look forward to seeing your reports.[/QUOTE]