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Thanks for the great guide, Wendella!
[QUOTE=Wendella;1160342]This is a guide to the "billiard bars" in District 1. They are all located in a fairly small area downtown. These bars are very simple and straightforward: only girls who are "working" are in the bar. Once inside you are expected to pick a girl to sit with, and you can also have some fun with her there if you like. All the girls can be taken out.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wendella; 1160342]This is a guide to the "billiard bars" in District 1. They are all located in a fairly small area downtown. These bars are very simple and straightforward: only girls who are "working" are in the bar. Once inside you are expected to pick a girl to sit with, and you can also have some fun with her there if you like. All the girls can be taken out.
[b]The Bars [/b]
There's a star rating (* * *) for each bar. Remember, your own taste may be different. In the best bars (three *'s and above) you can usually find some very attractive girls, often with a difficult choice of which girl you like best. In most bars (* * to * * ½) , there is still a chance of finding a hot girl, but less likely than in those rated * * * and above. In the bars at * ½ and under, you will be lucky if a very cute one is there, and these places usually have mostly less attractive or older girls (for example, it would be rare that 49 Dong Khoi has [i]any[/i] Girls who could get hired at 91 Hai Ba Trung). But if you visited every bar in one evening, you almost surely would find one pleasant surprise in one of the lesser rated bars.
Many of the names of these bars are just a number, which is their address, so for those only their address is listed.
[b] HAI BA TRUNG AREA[/b]
[b]35 Hai Ba Trung * *[/b] Small relaxing bar with just a few girls, usually average to slightly above avg. In quality. A balcony level with a pool table where you can get to know the girl better.
[b]49 Hai Ba Trung * * ½[/b] Fairly large bar, relaxed, long and narrow with a back room, which has a 2nd pool table and where things can be quite cozy. Girls are usually more plentiful and in general a bit cuter than at 35.
[b]51 Hai Ba Trung * * *[/b] A bit smaller than 49, but just as relaxed. Better than average girl selection and quality (more so than 49, in my opinion). This one seems to get new girls more often than most, and the occassional gorgeous one. They also have 2 pool tables, one in back a step down and another up on balcony level.
[b]91 Hai Ba Trung * * * ½[/b] This bar is the biggest and has the most girls, and they tend to be prettiest in general, also younger and taller. It is the one bar where things tend to be least cozy, and the girls more full of themselves (they're pretty and know it) but if your preference is looks over service, this is the one to visit. This would get 4 stars if girls there were as friendly as in other bars. Not relaxing.
[b]2 Sisters * * [/b] 44 Dong Du. (formerly Saigon NY) Small bar near the corner of Dong Du and Hai Ba Trung, actually off HBT street. It has more of a social and fun vibe than most bars, but girls are slightly below average in general. They're nicer than ones in most of the bars though. Some girls here wear ao dais, which seems to be their code for "not available". There is a pool table upstairs, though I'm not sure how relaxed it is up there.
[b]Trai Tao (Apple) * [/b] 13 Dong Du. Across the street from Saigon NY on Dong Du just near corner of HBT. Small bar with and mainly average girls, from what I could see. Honestly I haven't checked this one out very well. Almost surely relaxing.
[b]Thien Loc * * [/b] 23 Hai Ba Trung. At the corner of Hai Ba Trung and Mac Thi Buoi. One billiard table, the whole bar is just one room one level. This one recently reopened, but was always one of the most active bars in terms of entertainment. Might have 1 or 2 cuties with around 6 more ordinary ones.
[b]29 Mac Thi Buoi ½[/b] Very small new bar down the end of an alley on Mac Thi Buoi (not to be confused with the much better 29 Dong Khoi). The alley is very near the restaurant called Juice. It has one quite cute girl who is the boss's girlfriend and isn't allowed to sit with customers, plus a small group of other girls who are not attractive. Probably relaxing.
[b] DONG KHOI STREET[/b]
[b]29 Dong Khoi * * ½[/b] On the last block before the Majestic Hotel (near the river). It has 2 levels and about a dozen girls, but in terms of looks they're below average overall, except for the occassional few new ones. It is the one bar of all of these that offers by far the best customer service. Anything goes here. If you are lucky enough to spot a stunning girl here, this place can be heaven. There are couches upstairs and also a very small private room in the back. Relaxing and then some.
[b]49 Dong Khoi 0 stars[/b] A sad little bar way in the back down a long narrow hallway and upstairs. The girls are really not very pretty in this one. Seems to be designed to lure in unsuspecting tourists who don't know what other options are nearby. I prefer not to think about how relaxed the atmosphere is here, but it almost surely is. If you noticed the lack of stars above, that was intentional.
[b] THAI VAN LUNG / THI SACH AREA[/b]
[b]Smiley Bar * * [/b] 8A / 7D2 Thai Van Lung. Right at the intersection of Cao Ba Quat. Big bar, quite a few girls but choices are bit below average in quality. Upstairs they have rooms with pool tables. Things get much more entertaining and relaxing upstairs.
[b]Chieu Thuy * [/b] 40 Thai Van Lung. On Thai Van Lung near the corner of Ly Tu Truong, at the top of the "hill." Selection and quality of girls here is distinctly below average. Pool table in front and sofas in back.
[b]Vua Trai Dua (Coconut) *½ [/b] 15B Thi Sach. On the next parallel street over (Thi Sach) as you head back toward Hai Ba Trung. This is the the same street Apocalypse Now is located on, but at the opposite end near Le Thanh Ton. Girls here seem very average, and it's a smaller bar.
[b]Momo bar [/b] 15C Thi Sach. New small bar next to Vua Trai Dua that I have not been to yet.
[b]Little Princess [/b] 5E Nguyen Sieu. New, small bar on the side street opposite 91 Hai Ba Trung. I have not tried this one out yet.
[b] LE THANH TON AREA[/b]
[b]Quan Nho * * * [/b] 13 Le Thanh Ton. A very small bar with just around 6 girls. Sofas upstairs (3 levels total) to spend time with your girl. Atnosphere more upscale than the rest of these bars. No billiards tables. They tend to get a higher level of talent in their small lineup. Quite relaxing atmosphere upstairs.
[b]Bin Bin * * * [/b] 13 Le Thanh Ton. Just across the alley from Quan Nho. This bar has the second most girls and second prettiest overall after 91. Quality of the girls here is quite good overall, sometimes excellent, and attitude and willingness usually quite good too. It has an upstairs for further entertainment. Relaxation status uncertain.
[b]How It Works[/b]
After you take a seat, normally one girl will soon approach you. Each girl is in queue to be the one who first approaches a new customer. The problem with this system (for us) is that the girl who greets you is almost never the one you want. In that case, just let the bartender know so that girl after girl doesn't approach you like this. If you prefer no girl, you can just tell the bartender you only want to have a drink but no girl. If you want a chance to have your drink while discreetly checking out the girls first before deciding, you can tell the bartender you want to wait first before choosing. In some bars they will then ask you if you want to see the girls line up for you to choose from, and they will turn up the lights so you can actually see the girls. (91 and Bin Bin typically do this) If they don't immediately offer this, you could request to see them this way.
Once you are sitting with a girl, after 2-3 lady drinks normally the girl will ask if you want to do more with her later, namely to go visit your hotel together. Some may also like to do as much as they can to get you feeling relaxed right there in the bar, which is allowed in some of these bars (but not all). If you only want to talk / grope / hug / kiss / etc. A bit at the bar, that's also fine. You must try to sense what the girl is willing to do, or else let her lead the way and show you.
These bars are perfect if you prefer to go out alone and hope to meet a girl you can be sure is ready to go, without any distractions or risks (such as: she is not that kind of girl-all these girls are that kind; the place is too crowded; the place is so loud you can't have conversation; etc.) Also, these bars are all in comfortable walking distance of each other. If you don't like what a bar has to offer, you can try the next one that is only a few steps away. If you prefer to visit one of these bars with friends, they can put your group in a private room with a low table where everyone sits on cushions. These rooms can also be used even if you are solo. You can have fun with your girl right there in the bar, or else more fun at your hotel. There are different degrees of fun allowed at the different bars. Some actually allow you to do anything, and I mean anything, right in the bar. But in most you can only go to a certain point, and only when you and your girl are hidden somewhere such as in a balcony level or back room.
About prices, the price for a beer is 30, 000 (maybe still 25, 000 in some) and 50, 000 for a 'lady drink. ' (one notable exception: Quan Nho charges 50, 000 for a beer but also 50, 000 for a lady drink). In any bar, your girl will keep asking for another drink whenever she finishes one, that's standard. Don't become upset. To take a girl out, you have to buy her 5 or 6 drinks first, but normally those just get added to your bill, even if she doesn't really drink them. It's really just a barfine. For example, if you had 2 beers and she had 2 lady drinks, and you decide to take her out, they would charge you for the drinks that the 2 of you really drank (60, 000 for your 2 beers plus 100, 000 for her 2 drinks: which equals 160, 000 total) PLUS an additional (and imaginary) 4 lady drinks (200, 000) , so your total bar bill would be 360, 000. In other words, the barfine is 300, 000. And now the 2 of you are free to enjoy your evening together. The number of total drinks you must buy also depends a little on your negotiation skills, and some bars will ask for more lady drinks. As for the girl's payment, they tend to ask for 1 million for 2 hrs or so these days, but can occassionally be bargained down to as low as 800, 000.
If the bar tries to charge you a higher price for each beer or drink, tell them you were just here last week and paid only 30, 000 for each beer and 50, 000 for each lady drink-usually the bartender will play it safe and retreat to the normal price. If the bartender ever puts things like nuts or chewing gum in front of you and your girl, just have the bartender take them away. It's only a tactic to pad the bill at the end-they charge far more than those things really cost. Finally, if you want to leave the bar and not take your girl, then you should at least give her a tip. Standard tip these days is about 100, 000. If the girl's attitude was not very good, then a bit less is ok. They tend to feel insulted if it's 50, 000 or lower. If her attitude was good, pay higher accordingly. To make a good impression on a girl I want to see again, I would leave her a tip of 150, 000, or even 200, 000 for one who's very special. If you leave no tip, there's a good chance all the girls there would discuss it and brand you a "cheap charlie" after that.
If you go to a place and disagree with my rating, remember that the quality in the bars fluctuates. Also, if you get there late at night or after a big group of customers has arrived together, the choices left over may be few. 7pm seems to be a peak time when you can expect almost all the girls who work there to be present and available.
Have fun. [/QUOTE]This is great information. My question is times. Are any of these bars good for afternoon pickups? Also, I will be in HCMC for just 48 hours between the afternoons of 27th and 29th of June. This is a Monday and a Tuesday. Will this be a problem?
[QUOTE=Sean Casey;1162502]This is great information. My question is times. Are any of these bars good for afternoon pickups? Also, I will be in HCMC for just 48 hours between the afternoons of 27th and 29th of June. This is a Monday and a Tuesday. Will this be a problem?[/QUOTE]I can't believe you quoted the whole report. Next time save us all a lot of time and just quote the opening sentence, put a few....full stops, then the last sentence. We all understand what you are referring to.
[QUOTE=Sean Casey;1162502]This is great information. My question is times. Are any of these bars good for afternoon pickups? Also, I will be in HCMC for just 48 hours between the afternoons of 27th and 29th of June. This is a Monday and a Tuesday. Will this be a problem?[/QUOTE]Ditto on what Mik said. With a huge post like that, best not to quote the whole thing. Some get annoyed at the pointless scrolling they have to do as a result. No biggie though.
Funny you should ask: there's ONE bar that I know that's open in afternoons with staff inside. Thien Loc. There might be others (does anyone here know?) but that one definitely does. The negative is that their place has slim pickings. Like I would only go there in the afternoon if I had already visited in the evening and found one especially worth visiting there. So for a return visit when you are sure there's something worth visiting. I wouldn't just pop in for the first time in the afternoon because most likely there's nothing there worth spending time on.
This might be the only one that has anything at all in afternoons. If any others do, it's news to me. Maybe there are, but I doubt it.
As for Monday / Tuesday. Not sure what problem you expect. You seem to have the evenings of the 27th and 28th to go check things out. Actually those are good nights to go since fewer other guys are out then (weekends busier of course) and so the competition for the best ones is lower.
Wendella,
Thanks for taking the time to write such an informative guide. I was familiar with some of the bia oms you have reviewed but hadn't done the 'in depth" research that you have clearly done.
I checked out 91 HBT, not having been there before. You are right. Stunning girls with even more stunning attitudes. The first girl who sat with me wanted to know immediately if I was going to take her out, and when I said drinks and talk first, she went off in a huff, calling me a cheap charlie. The second girl, very attractive, very tall, behaved like an Ice Maiden, even after two lady drinks. There is an acronym that the Vietnamese girls in my office use to describe to ex-pats, which applies in her case. NATO. No action, talk only. She even complained that 100, 000 VND was not enough tip!
If you are not Japanese and don't have money to burn, steer clear of 91 HBT.
I then went to Bin Bin on Le Thanh Ton. I hadn't been to any bars in this area for a long time (anyone remember Dep / Stephanies from years ago?) and was pleasantly surprised. Very relaxing.
Thanks again.
Thanks for all your info wendella, absolutely great report, can you suggest to as a gf hotel with the right price in the district 1, I am a vietnam newbie, I lived in BKK since 5 years and soon next month I will spend a week in Saigon, one more question were to find freelancers and how to approach them, what is the average price for a lt? Do you think is better don't carry any xheecks in the room and search for a st hotel? To move with a mototaxi driver how is the average price? Should I bargain eveeytime? Is Saigon dangerous? Is a good idea to rent a bike? Cheers and and have a good rime, is there any expat I can meet for a beer and a dinner?
[QUOTE=Wendella;1160342]This is a guide to the "billiard bars" in District 1. They are all located in a fairly small area downtown. These bars are very simple and straightforward: only girls who are "working" are in the bar. Once inside you are expected to pick a girl to sit with, and you can also have some fun with her there if you like. All the girls can be taken out.[/QUOTE]Great report by Wendella. Glad to see that you back on the tiles!
My experience varies from yours especially. Especial at Smiley and the sister bar Coco. Both of them ask for much higher prices for takeout than you quote but I have found that the gals are sometimes willing to make out of hours arrangements. Private pool sessions upstairs can be entertaining.
There is also another small billiards bar on Nguyen Sieu near the Danish pub. Similar bar to the others with limited stock due to small space.
[QUOTE=Zerosei;1163366]Thanks for all your info wendella, absolutely great report, can you suggest to as a gf hotel with the right price in the district 1, I am a vietnam newbie, I lived in BKK since 5 years and soon next month I will spend a week in Saigon, one more question were to find freelancers and how to approach them, what is the average price for a lt? Do you think is better don't carry any xheecks in the room and search for a st hotel? To move with a mototaxi driver how is the average price? Should I bargain eveeytime? Is Saigon dangerous? Is a good idea to rent a bike? Cheers and and have a good rime, is there any expat I can meet for a beer and a dinner?[/QUOTE]Hey just shoot me an email, I'll grab a beer, Saigon is as dangerous as you let it be. Don't make your self a target, don't wear expensive jewelery, buy a cheap phone you don't mind getting stolen, keep the majority of your cash separate from your wallet, it is safe to rent a bike, from the right people, cheaper bikes are the clutch bikes, but automatics are easier in traffic if your not used to driving here. If you find a good xe om driver stick with him. Make copies of your passport and visa, carry a set with you.
[QUOTE=Zerosei;1163366]where to find freelancers and how to approach them, what is the average price for a lt? Do you think is better don't carry any xheecks in the room and search for a st hotel? To move with a mototaxi driver how is the average price? Should I bargain eveeytime? Is Saigon dangerous? Is a good idea to rent a bike? Cheers and and have a good rime, is there any expat I can meet for a beer and a dinner?[/QUOTE]Well we're waiting for some of the other members to finish up work on the Freelancers' Guide. Coming soon. .
OK just kidding, but it would be nice wouldn't it?
JD? Raverboy? MikHCMC? Milkweed?
Ditto on the Guest Friendly Hotels Guide.
[QUOTE=Wendella; 1163501]Well we're waiting for some of the other members to finish up work on the Freelancers' Guide. Coming soon. .
OK just kidding, but it would be nice wouldn't it?
JD? Raverboy? MikHCMC? Milkweed?
Ditto on the Guest Friendly Hotels Guide. [/QUOTE]No thanks. You can be the sole guide writer of distinction around here, Wendella. ;)
As for Zerosei, I suggest you either RTFF or stay in BKK.
OK. I'll be nice. Answers to your questions:
1. Everywhere. Walk up, open your mouth, ask how much.
2. USD 100.
3. What's xheecks? You mean chicks? Then yes.
4. Half the taxi meter rate, or VND 7000-8000 per km.
5. Yes.
6. If you need to ask this question, just stay home.
7. No.
8. No thanks.
[QUOTE=Sudsoz; 1163367]Great report by Wendella. Glad to see that you back on the tiles!
My experience varies from yours especially. Especial at Smiley and the sister bar Coco. Both of them ask for much higher prices for takeout than you quote but I have found that the gals are sometimes willing to make out of hours arrangements. Private pool sessions upstairs can be entertaining.
There is also another small billiards bar on Nguyen Sieu near the Danish pub. Similar bar to the others with limited stock due to small space. [/QUOTE]Yeah I base it on the offers I've had plus the lower offers I've heard others get. Because there's always stupidly high offers to tourists, you can't count those. But I haven't gotten any quotes in the 2 bars you mention there, Smiley maybe years back. The bar on Nguyen Sieu actually is there in the list: "Little Princess". I haven't really checked it out in person.
Thank You very much for who kindly reply to me. I live in Bangkok, I travelled all south east asia since 18 years but I never been in Vietnam; for example if someone ask to me if Cambodia is safe, I will never make fun of him, and I will say be carefull as every day there's a foreign with tears expecially in Phnom Penh, that's why I asked if is safe or not and that's why I made some questions. For raverboy thanks for you numbered answer, about point 8 I really don't care you deny my invitation to take a beer or to have a dinner together, here in thai we say mai pen rai and also in a nice way. Reading that seems you are the king of the city, I am happy you feel like that and I wish you to get soon also the governor of the city. By the way this is a forum where a newbie should ask about some topic, we are not here to talk about politician. Thanks to all and I wish you all a great day.
Zerosei
[QUOTE=Wendella; 1160342]This is a guide to the "billiard bars" in District 1. They are all located in a fairly small area downtown. These bars are very simple and straightforward: only girls who are "working" are in the bar. Once inside you are expected to pick a girl to sit with, and you can also have some fun with her there if you like. All the girls can be taken out.
[b]The Bars [/b]
There's a star rating (* * *) for each bar. Remember, your own taste may be different. In the best bars (three *'s and above) you can usually find some very attractive girls, often with a difficult choice of which girl you like best. In most bars (* * to * * ½) , there is still a chance of finding a hot girl, but less likely than in those rated * * * and above. In the bars at * ½ and under, you will be lucky if a very cute one is there, and these places usually have mostly less attractive or older girls (for example, it would be rare that 49 Dong Khoi has [i]any[/i] Girls who could get hired at 91 Hai Ba Trung). But if you visited every bar in one evening, you almost surely would find one pleasant surprise in one of the lesser rated bars.
Many of the names of these bars are just a number, which is their address, so for those only their address is listed.
[b] HAI BA TRUNG AREA[/b]
[b]35 Hai Ba Trung * *[/b] Small relaxing bar with just a few girls, usually average to slightly above avg. In quality. A balcony level with a pool table where you can get to know the girl better.
[b]49 Hai Ba Trung * * ½[/b] Fairly large bar, relaxed, long and narrow with a back room, which has a 2nd pool table and where things can be quite cozy. Girls are usually more plentiful and in general a bit cuter than at 35.
[b]51 Hai Ba Trung * * *[/b] A bit smaller than 49, but just as relaxed. Better than average girl selection and quality (more so than 49, in my opinion). This one seems to get new girls more often than most, and the occassional gorgeous one. They also have 2 pool tables, one in back a step down and another up on balcony level.
[b]91 Hai Ba Trung * * * ½[/b] This bar is the biggest and has the most girls, and they tend to be prettiest in general, also younger and taller. It is the one bar where things tend to be least cozy, and the girls more full of themselves (they're pretty and know it) but if your preference is looks over service, this is the one to visit. This would get 4 stars if girls there were as friendly as in other bars. Not relaxing.
[b]2 Sisters * * [/b] 44 Dong Du. (formerly Saigon NY) Small bar near the corner of Dong Du and Hai Ba Trung, actually off HBT street. It has more of a social and fun vibe than most bars, but girls are slightly below average in general. They're nicer than ones in most of the bars though. Some girls here wear ao dais, which seems to be their code for "not available". There is a pool table upstairs, though I'm not sure how relaxed it is up there.
[b]Trai Tao (Apple) * [/b] 13 Dong Du. Across the street from Saigon NY on Dong Du just near corner of HBT. Small bar with and mainly average girls, from what I could see. Honestly I haven't checked this one out very well. Almost surely relaxing.
[b]Thien Loc * * [/b] 23 Hai Ba Trung. At the corner of Hai Ba Trung and Mac Thi Buoi. One billiard table, the whole bar is just one room one level. This one recently reopened, but was always one of the most active bars in terms of entertainment. Might have 1 or 2 cuties with around 6 more ordinary ones.
[b]29 Mac Thi Buoi ½[/b] Very small new bar down the end of an alley on Mac Thi Buoi (not to be confused with the much better 29 Dong Khoi). The alley is very near the restaurant called Juice. It has one quite cute girl who is the boss's girlfriend and isn't allowed to sit with customers, plus a small group of other girls who are not attractive. Probably relaxing.
[b] DONG KHOI STREET[/b]
[b]29 Dong Khoi * * ½[/b] On the last block before the Majestic Hotel (near the river). It has 2 levels and about a dozen girls, but in terms of looks they're below average overall, except for the occassional few new ones. It is the one bar of all of these that offers by far the best customer service. Anything goes here. If you are lucky enough to spot a stunning girl here, this place can be heaven. There are couches upstairs and also a very small private room in the back. Relaxing and then some.
[b]49 Dong Khoi 0 stars[/b] A sad little bar way in the back down a long narrow hallway and upstairs. The girls are really not very pretty in this one. Seems to be designed to lure in unsuspecting tourists who don't know what other options are nearby. I prefer not to think about how relaxed the atmosphere is here, but it almost surely is. If you noticed the lack of stars above, that was intentional.
[b] THAI VAN LUNG / THI SACH AREA[/b]
[b]Smiley Bar * * [/b] 8A / 7D2 Thai Van Lung. Right at the intersection of Cao Ba Quat. Big bar, quite a few girls but choices are bit below average in quality. Upstairs they have rooms with pool tables. Things get much more entertaining and relaxing upstairs.
[b]Chieu Thuy * [/b] 40 Thai Van Lung. On Thai Van Lung near the corner of Ly Tu Truong, at the top of the "hill." Selection and quality of girls here is distinctly below average. Pool table in front and sofas in back.
[b]Vua Trai Dua (Coconut) *½ [/b] 15B Thi Sach. On the next parallel street over (Thi Sach) as you head back toward Hai Ba Trung. This is the the same street Apocalypse Now is located on, but at the opposite end near Le Thanh Ton. Girls here seem very average, and it's a smaller bar.
[b]Momo bar [/b] 15C Thi Sach. New small bar next to Vua Trai Dua that I have not been to yet.
[b]Little Princess [/b] 5E Nguyen Sieu. New, small bar on the side street opposite 91 Hai Ba Trung. I have not tried this one out yet.
[b] LE THANH TON AREA[/b]
[b]Quan Nho * * * [/b] 13 Le Thanh Ton. A very small bar with just around 6 girls. Sofas upstairs (3 levels total) to spend time with your girl. Atnosphere more upscale than the rest of these bars. No billiards tables. They tend to get a higher level of talent in their small lineup. Quite relaxing atmosphere upstairs.
[b]Bin Bin * * * [/b] 13 Le Thanh Ton. Just across the alley from Quan Nho. This bar has the second most girls and second prettiest overall after 91. Quality of the girls here is quite good overall, sometimes excellent, and attitude and willingness usually quite good too. It has an upstairs for further entertainment. Relaxation status uncertain.
[b]How It Works[/b]
After you take a seat, normally one girl will soon approach you. Each girl is in queue to be the one who first approaches a new customer. The problem with this system (for us) is that the girl who greets you is almost never the one you want. In that case, just let the bartender know so that girl after girl doesn't approach you like this. If you prefer no girl, you can just tell the bartender you only want to have a drink but no girl. If you want a chance to have your drink while discreetly checking out the girls first before deciding, you can tell the bartender you want to wait first before choosing. In some bars they will then ask you if you want to see the girls line up for you to choose from, and they will turn up the lights so you can actually see the girls. (91 and Bin Bin typically do this) If they don't immediately offer this, you could request to see them this way.
Once you are sitting with a girl, after 2-3 lady drinks normally the girl will ask if you want to do more with her later, namely to go visit your hotel together. Some may also like to do as much as they can to get you feeling relaxed right there in the bar, which is allowed in some of these bars (but not all). If you only want to talk / grope / hug / kiss / etc. A bit at the bar, that's also fine. You must try to sense what the girl is willing to do, or else let her lead the way and show you.
These bars are perfect if you prefer to go out alone and hope to meet a girl you can be sure is ready to go, without any distractions or risks (such as: she is not that kind of girl-all these girls are that kind; the place is too crowded; the place is so loud you can't have conversation; etc.) Also, these bars are all in comfortable walking distance of each other. If you don't like what a bar has to offer, you can try the next one that is only a few steps away. If you prefer to visit one of these bars with friends, they can put your group in a private room with a low table where everyone sits on cushions. These rooms can also be used even if you are solo. You can have fun with your girl right there in the bar, or else more fun at your hotel. There are different degrees of fun allowed at the different bars. Some actually allow you to do anything, and I mean anything, right in the bar. But in most you can only go to a certain point, and only when you and your girl are hidden somewhere such as in a balcony level or back room.
About prices, the price for a beer is 30, 000 (maybe still 25, 000 in some) and 50, 000 for a 'lady drink. ' (one notable exception: Quan Nho charges 50, 000 for a beer but also 50, 000 for a lady drink). In any bar, your girl will keep asking for another drink whenever she finishes one, that's standard. Don't become upset. To take a girl out, you have to buy her 5 or 6 drinks first, but normally those just get added to your bill, even if she doesn't really drink them. It's really just a barfine. For example, if you had 2 beers and she had 2 lady drinks, and you decide to take her out, they would charge you for the drinks that the 2 of you really drank (60, 000 for your 2 beers plus 100, 000 for her 2 drinks: which equals 160, 000 total) PLUS an additional (and imaginary) 4 lady drinks (200, 000) , so your total bar bill would be 360, 000. In other words, the barfine is 300, 000. And now the 2 of you are free to enjoy your evening together. The number of total drinks you must buy also depends a little on your negotiation skills, and some bars will ask for more lady drinks. As for the girl's payment, they tend to ask for 1 million for 2 hrs or so these days, but can occassionally be bargained down to as low as 800, 000.
If the bar tries to charge you a higher price for each beer or drink, tell them you were just here last week and paid only 30, 000 for each beer and 50, 000 for each lady drink-usually the bartender will play it safe and retreat to the normal price. If the bartender ever puts things like nuts or chewing gum in front of you and your girl, just have the bartender take them away. It's only a tactic to pad the bill at the end-they charge far more than those things really cost. Finally, if you want to leave the bar and not take your girl, then you should at least give her a tip. Standard tip these days is about 100, 000. If the girl's attitude was not very good, then a bit less is ok. They tend to feel insulted if it's 50, 000 or lower. If her attitude was good, pay higher accordingly. To make a good impression on a girl I want to see again, I would leave her a tip of 150, 000, or even 200, 000 for one who's very special. If you leave no tip, there's a good chance all the girls there would discuss it and brand you a "cheap charlie" after that.
If you go to a place and disagree with my rating, remember that the quality in the bars fluctuates. Also, if you get there late at night or after a big group of customers has arrived together, the choices left over may be few. 7pm seems to be a peak time when you can expect almost all the girls who work there to be present and available.
Have fun[/QUOTE]OK, I went to Quan Nho, first impressions, blacked out, and partialy frosted front door is a good sign, went in the bar area downstairs is about the size of a bathroom. The mamasan called the girl down, down came a stunner with her dress pulled above the bearded mussel, good, sit down bought her a lady drink I got ba, ba, ba bia asked how much 100k, bad sign. Girl grabs the package, shove my hand down her snatch, good, the whispers we go upstairs for a hummer 1 mil, sign to get the fuck out, I negotiate, she won't budge says house gets 400k, I called bullshit, got the bill, girl said you give me 500k I keep change for drink, yeah right! I paid mamasan the 100k gave her fifty for the blue balls, left, never will go back. P. S. The parking wondered why I left so soon I told him girl too much, he said better to go to Benny's.
Hi guys,
So I've been living in HCMC since September 09 and only went for my first mongering activity last week on reading Wendella's great post on Billiard bars.
I decided to check out Bin Bin. As I walked past the bar and looked in its direction the bar's doors immediately opened up revealing 3-4 girls in short red dresses. I asked the guy sitting outside how much for a beer, to which he responded "2 dollars". I countered with "no. 30, 000 dong" and he said ok. I clarified with him that lady drinks were 50, 000 each.
I proceeded inside and headed upstairs to the room with the pool table and picked up a cute 19 yo called Thuy from the line up of girls. As soon as I chose her she immediately wrapper her arms around me and lightly started pecking me on the cheek.
We started playing a game of pool when she made the offer. If I win then she will strip, and if she wins then I will give her 50, 000. I joked with her and said if she wins then I'll strip for her. To my surprise she laughed and said "ok". So I won the game and she stripped for me and got me into a long DFK session. By long I mean about 5 minutes as I was constantly looking over my shoulders because attached to the room we were in was a kitchen and locker room where the girls constantly come in and out. Her body was about a 6. Her tits were A but they looked like they used to be a B or C. Imagine you inflate a balloon and then left it there for 2 weeks. Yeh wrinkly and deflated. Anyway she had a 9/10 attitude.
Anyway so she made an offer to back to my hotel. She quoted me 1. 2m which I eventually managed to get down to 1m. The mama said to take her I would have to pay 400k which I refused and countered with the 200k I had been advised on this forum. After an exchange of a few words we settled on 200k.
On the way out, the mama said that they had a car and driver to take me back to my hotel free of charge. I wasn't too sure about this but my girl (who was very cute and spoke pre-intermediate level English) assured me that it was safe. We got into the car and the driver asked me where my hotel was. I didn't feel like taking the girl back to mine so I said I wanted to go to mini hotel. He said ok and off we went.
When we got to the hotel we were greeted by a guy who said 400k for the room. I negotiated. Didn't work.
Went up to the room and had the text book shower and strip down.
She gave me a BBBJ for a good 5 minutes then on came the rubber jimmy.
To my surprise for such a small girl her minge was loose. Very loose. So much so that after an hour of me pumping away I was unable to come. I asked and she refused a BJ at this point. Eventually I had to have her give me a HJ to finish. She did mention to me that she was popular and had a lot of customers, maybe that's why her minge was so loose. (and before any funny comments about the size of my schlong. I definitely don't have a schlort. I'm average. So she's definitely looose)
Anyway kissed her goodbye. She asked what I was doing the next day and if I wanted to meet her. I said I was busy with work and will call her when I'm free.
Overall she's a nice girl with a nice attitude and very cute. Too bad her fanny is huge.
Name: Thuy.
Age: 19.
Looks: 8.
Body: 6.
Attitude: 9.
WIR: 50/50
Hey guys,
So I hope you liked my last report, also my first.
I would like to ask if there are any other ways to get a FS in town?
I mean a billiard bar is a nice place to pick up a girl but the bar charge can be off putting and I'd like to experience something new. Perhaps something a little cheaper too. Perhaps the 600-800 mark.
I'm not so keen on going with freelancers and would like to go somewhere to choose a girl I like.
I searched and haven't been able to find anything recent and conclusive on FSMP.
Please note this is a request for FS. I haven't tried out the hot toc places on DBP and NPK yet. But I have been to a massage at Vien Dong.
I apologise if what I'm looking for has already been addressed. I just haven't been able to find it. If it has already been addressed I'd appreciate it if you could link it to me or point me in the right direction.