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FF and McAdonis make some good points, but I do take issue with a couple of things that were said.

First, the girls in the clubs absolutely do not have to fuck you! They can fuck (or refuse to fuck) anybody that they want to. Over the decades it has indeed been rare for me to be refused, but it has happened. I can think of at least 4 times, and one of those was at that "infamous" German FKK known as Golden Time (I need say no more regarding that club's reputation). But the bottom line is that if a girl at an FKK doesn't want to go with you, then she doesn't have to. She still has a choice. Don't forget that.

The second thing is the notion that freebie sex with a "normal" girl is supposedly more of an adrenaline high than sex with a working girl. Well, maybe for you two guys, but not for guys like Mr. Ho and me. We get more of a high from messing with the tutes! In fact, this is a part of what causes Mr. Ho's "dilemma", and he says so quite plainly. For him, sex with normal girls is sub par when compared with sex with the tutes. Same for me. The normal girls can no longer satisfy me with their plain "vanilla" sex. They think they're doing something in bed, but Ho and I know they're really not doing shit.

Now, I'm not saying the following is necessarily true regarding FF and McAdonis, but I think some guys will be forever stuck on "freebie" sex being better just because that's what society has implanted inside of their brains from birth. That's the way it's "supposed" to be. You're not supposed to pay for it! How could you "cheapen" sex that way! Well, for guys like Ho, and me, and millions of others that's just not true. The act of paying changes nothing and does absolutely nothing to lower the power of the pleasure derived therefrom. If anything, for us it only increases the satisfaction as it brings more upfront honesty and transparency to doing the deed without all of the "dating games" subterfuge that men and women engage in. This is how I see it. And I am unanimous in this LOL!

[QUOTE=TheCane;1647199]You're on the money. They may say "so sad", but if you really listen to them they aren't telling you shit! Not making any "connections" with a woman in a "normal" way? Well "normal" can be pretty fucked up! In this country anyway, half of them are getting divorced, and then trying it again. And maybe a third time! And I figure that at least half of the ones who stay together really aren't happy. So, it seems to me that the majority of those who go the "normal" route aren't being all that successful in establishing that lifelong "connection" with the opposite sex. But then you know the first thing they will say right? But you're "paying" for it. As if they aren't! You already know from your own circumstances how much money you're laying out to court "normal" girls. And do you think that it stops after marriage? No, it only gets worse! And even worse than that when the divorce comes! I know of a guy now thinking about going to drive a cab after his divorce just to make some extra income to pay his bills. That's pathetic man. Just plain pathetic! Mr. Ho, you do what makes you happy and don't get caught up in bullshit societal constraints that we were told were desirable endeavors and outcomes when we were young, but when we grow up we realize it's mostly a crock of shit! Unfortunately, many of us realize it only too late. Don't fall victim to debt bondage all in the name of "normal" relationships and marriage. Hell, prostitution is the oldest profession, so it seems to me that messing with tutes is indeed very normal! Not seeing it the way the others do.

TC the Contrarian.[/QUOTE]Very well written and wise words Mr Cane.

You actually pay much more money for normal relationship. Pay much more attention, nerve and it can even destroy men's life! I know some men whose life is destroy after certain relationship with normal woman.

On the other hand, I played right way in German FKK and I really have so much more connection to these girls I became friend with, but I only meet them at FKK even though they offered me to meet them outside of FKK.

Normal relationship marriage is the system created by religion and government to keep the system going and produce tax paying machines for next generation of system. I am sure having a child is great gift, but man this normal girl relationship is really not worth it unless you fuck and leave or pay no attention and let those normal girls chase you. I mean not being heartless but normal girls always go fucked up after few month of relationship and also at very beginning of relationship.

FKK is the place where I throw myself in for the memories of my sexual life I am glad I have been mongering around world since 18 and now I'm 34, I will do this forever!

Fellow mongers! Keep on mongering playas.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1647194]Spain is the other mongering destination in Europe that I enjoy greatly. I believe it is vastly underrated. Our mongering reporter Ibn Buttita just did a series of reports capturing the details of his recent adventures in Catalonia. Check them out in the Spain threads. He finally decided to visit Espana. Maybe one day you will too! As for some of those other destinations you mentioned, I would advise you to pass. Don't look to the east of Germany. Go west young man, go west![/QUOTE]Spain is good as German FKK? What are the nationalities though? Spanish, Brazilian I presume? No Hungarians, Austrians, Germans right?

I prefer having intense sessions at FKK till I cannot fuck anymore than doing one normal girl.

Only good thing about normal girl is that I can fuck her with no condom, but if accident pregnant occur. Then that is million dollar night right there with so much responsibility.

In FKK, you have pools of pussies of all skin color, different body, tits etc. You can even take two at the same time and you can fuck them like woodman style.

Imagine fucking your girlfriend woodman style in the ass, you can do it sometimes but not all the time unless you have nympho as you girlfriend.

In FKK, you are free to do what you want it is just that you have to wear condom for penetration.

I see more pros over cons doing beautiful young tutes than doing normal girls.

I had girlfriends from different part of world and some were real beauty, but man really it takes so much effort especially at the beginning of getting into relationship and by the time I get into relationship I am so tired already then they eventually freak out tire you mentally.

FKK is wild wild west where you pay and with bit of charm and humor you can do what you want.

I have hard time getting satisfied with normal girls for long time, first few time it is great intimate sex then after few times. I begin to compare sex with normal girls to insane sex session I had with FKK girls. FKK is like pringle ad for me, once I pop, I cannot stop.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1647194]Spain is the other mongering destination in Europe that I enjoy greatly. I believe it is vastly underrated. Our mongering reporter Ibn Buttita just did a series of reports capturing the details of his recent adventures in Catalonia. Check them out in the Spain threads. He finally decided to visit Espana. Maybe one day you will too! As for some of those other destinations you mentioned, I would advise you to pass. Don't look to the east of Germany. Go west young man, go west![/QUOTE]Well I have seen a lot of guys just drool over Spanish Girls. But does it not get expensive there than going to Eastern Europe the whole idea of going to eastern Europe is great beauty at cheap price. Spain is West Europe I guess would be expensive there. Also I have also always wanted to visit Prague as a Normal Tourist I have been told is a beautiful city with typical European architecture and feel to it. It is very European. So anyways I have on my mind to once visit Czech Republic so I was think why not instead make it a Sex Tourism thing also!

[QUOTE=TheCane;1647412]
The second thing is the notion that freebie sex with a "normal" girl is supposedly more of an adrenaline high than sex with a working girl. Well, maybe for you two guys, but not for guys like Mr. Ho and me. We get more of a high from messing with the tutes! In fact, this is a part of what causes Mr. Ho's "dilemma", and he says so quite plainly. For him, sex with normal girls is sub par when compared with sex with the tutes. Same for me. The normal girls can no longer satisfy me with their plain "vanilla" sex. They think they're doing something in bed, but Ho and I know they're really not doing shit.
[/QUOTE]Technically most of the working girls fuck better than the freebies, that is true and I agree. They have learned to fuck and please a man through their career as a hooker.

Anyway for me the chase is sometimes better than the catch. I can never get the same quality of young honeys from a normal club or bar than in german FKK's but the point is the 'fishing' process. Last summer I got lucky in Helsinki and met a 24 year old girl on the beach. Quite ok body, silicon tits, pretty blue eyes and cute face. Physically not close to the best looking ones I have fucked in FKK's over the years. But man she liked cock and enjoyed to suck and fuck. It was nice for a change that after spraying my load onto her ample silicon breasts there was no need to walk into the locker and dig out some 50 bills and pay :cool:

I know a hooker can refuse a client if she does not like him. Has happened to me as well. But honestly I have seen nice young girls going into the rooms with such a freaks of nature who make Fat Bastard in Austin Powers look handsome. No way can any working girls fancy fucking these pigs.

At the end we all visit the clubs and fuck the hookers. Some more, some less, some every day, LOL. I just would not compare the hookers with normal girls, no need to. Different species.

[QUOTE=MrHo;1647442]Spain is good as German FKK? What are the nationalities though? Spanish, Brazilian I presume? No Hungarians, Austrians, Germans right?[/QUOTE]You will find a lot of Romanians in Spain just like in Germany. But also lots of girls from the Americas, particularly South America. One of my favorite memories is of a blonde, Cuban girl who looked like Fergie from the Black-eyed Peas, but even hotter in my opinion. I enjoyed her anus. I didn't say that Spain was as good as Germany on the sex tip. I said it was my second favorite mongering destination in Europe. It's number two because anal is far more prevalent in Germany LOL! When I've gotten anal in Spain, it has tended to be from the Brazilian girls working over there. The Cuban girl was an exotic treat for a Yankee like me. I'm glad she allowed backdoor entry.

[QUOTE=MrHo;1647451]I have hard time getting satisfied with normal girls for long time, first few time it is great intimate sex then after few times. I begin to compare sex with normal girls to insane sex session I had with FKK girls. FKK is like pringle ad for me, once I pop, I cannot stop.[/QUOTE]Ho,

You're killing me man! You're killing me over here hahaha! Ho is an international "playa" since 18 LOL! I didn't have two nickels to rub together at 18! But I keep telling you man. If you want access to insane anal sex with girls of all skin colors, you got to go to Brazil! Talking about fucking pretty girls in the butt Woodman-style! Whew! You'll get over there and lose your mind hommes!

[QUOTE=Jooeey;1647486]Well I have seen a lot of guys just drool over Spanish Girls. But does it not get expensive there than going to Eastern Europe the whole idea of going to eastern Europe is great beauty at cheap price. Spain is West Europe I guess would be expensive there. Also I have also always wanted to visit Prague as a Normal Tourist I have been told is a beautiful city with typical European architecture and feel to it. It is very European. So anyways I have on my mind to once visit Czech Republic so I was think why not instead make it a Sex Tourism thing also![/QUOTE]In general, Prague is indeed an excellent tourist town for "normal" tourist stuff. But watch out for the cabbies though! They will try to rip you off by charging double, and will try to take you to clubs where they will get kickbacks. This is the one thing that I really didn't like about Prague. The taxi drivers were some of the worst in the world I've had to deal with anywhere. I remember that when I was there I wanted to visit the famous club K-5 Relax. I was confused when we supposedly arrived because although the address on the building was literally K-5, it didn't look like the club I had seen on the internet. Went in and discovered that it was a different club! I went back out to the still waiting taxi (was waiting to see if I would stay so he could get his fee), and I made his ass take me where I wanted to go at no additional charge!

On the mongering front, most will tell you that Prague has seen better days. Some will say different, but most guys who are seasoned mongers who understand prices and quality on a worldwide basis will tell you that Prague and Budapest are down (I have not been to Budapest). Now, there are lots of options to choose from in Prague, but quality is not as good as in Germany and Spain on the whole, and the prices are more expensive at the top clubs, not less! You're making some assumption that sex in Spain is more expensive than some country in eastern Europe just because Spain is in the west! That's not necessarily true. Prague and the Czech Republic is an extremely well-developed nation that has the kind of cost for goods and services that go along with that standing. From a geographical standpoint, it isn't even in eastern Europe but more smack dab in the middle.

You need to RTFF more on this and do your research. Listen to the seasoned, well-traveled, experienced mongers, and you will find that Prague just isn't what it used to be when it comes to mongering. And the best quality available there is expensive! I've found much better Czech talent at better prices in Berlin and Frankfurt! Don't believe me? Then go ahead. Take a trip to Prague and see for yourself. I did, and I had a great time overall just because it is such an interesting place to visit. But from a mongering standpoint, I've enjoyed better. Much, much better at better prices. Have fun. And tell us about it!

[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;1647537]Anyway for me the chase is sometimes better than the catch. I can never get the same quality of young honeys from a normal club or bar than in german FKK's but the point is the 'fishing' process.[/QUOTE]Now this I can understand. Some guys really enjoy the hunt. The chase! And no matter how you cut it, going after girls in an FKK is not a true chase in any sense of the word. It's all fabricated in a "pre-packaged" environment. Mongers like me who value efficiency love that LOL! At the same time, I don't necessarily need "spear fishing in a barrel" mongering like at the Hotel del Rey in Costa Rica either LOL!

[QUOTE=TheCane;1647648]Prague and the Czech Republic is an extremely well-developed nation that has the kind of cost for goods and services that go along with that standing. [/QUOTE]And that's why you don't find that many Czech girls any more in Germany, certainly not in FKKs. And what few Czech girls you will find are unlikely to be the best service providers. They no longer have to sell themselves cheap as they have a reasonably prosperous home country to fall back on. You only need to see how Czeck girls now look down on Rumanians! As to Spain, it is now an economic wasteland. You find quite a few Spanish girls working in Germany now. I mean real Spaniards, not Latinas who got Spanish passport (you can detect real Spaniards at the way they pronounce "s" in spanish. Spaniards pronounce "s" like they had a hair on the tongue). Regarding Prague and Budapest, some member of this forum inquired of late what was the quickest way to get from Budapest (where he was on duty travel) to Frankfurt (where he hoped to get good sex at a reasonable rate). That says it all.

I confirm many Rumanian girls have worked in Spain. I met quite a few Rumanians in FKKs who were fluent in Spanish, so much so that I first mistook them for Latinas.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1647199]But then you know the first thing they will say right? But you're "paying" for it. As if they aren't! You already know from your own circumstances how much money you're laying out to court "normal" girls. And do you think that it stops after marriage? No, it only gets worse! And even worse than that when the divorce comes![/QUOTE]I've found out men who are most adamant about never paying for sex are nearly always personal financial slaves to some woman, usually a wife or an ex-wife. These men have zero disposable income (all their money gets confiscated by the woman). These men couldn't pay for sex even if they'd wanted to.

[QUOTE=XXL;1647801]I'v found out the men who are most adamant about never paying for sex are nearly always personal financial slaves to some woman, usually a wife or an ex-wife.[/QUOTE]They're secretly paying for tutes while admonishing you for doing it with no qualms about it. You can't win with these guys. That's why I only discuss the pleasures of mongering with other mongers. Do you really think Spitzer was a one off? No way. The dangerous thing about him though was that he had the force of the law behind his hypocritical rhetoric.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1647648]In general, Prague is indeed an excellent tourist town for "normal" tourist stuff. But watch out for the cabbies though! They will try to rip you off by charging double, and will try to take you to clubs where they will get kickbacks. This is the one thing that I really didn't like about Prague. The taxi drivers were some of the worst in the world I've had to deal with anywhere. I remember that when I was there I wanted to visit the famous club K-5 Relax. I was confused when we supposedly arrived because although the address on the building was literally K-5, it didn't look like the club I had seen on the internet. Went in and discovered that it was a different club! I went back out to the still waiting taxi (was waiting to see if I would stay so he could get his fee), and I made his ass take me where I wanted to go at no additional charge!

On the mongering front, most will tell you that Prague has seen better days. Some will say different, but most guys who are seasoned mongers who understand prices and quality on a worldwide basis will tell you that Prague and Budapest are down (I have not been to Budapest). Now, there are lots of options to choose from in Prague, but quality is not as good as in Germany and Spain on the whole, and the prices are more expensive at the top clubs, not less! You're making some assumption that sex in Spain is more expensive than some country in eastern Europe just because Spain is in the west! That's not necessarily true. Prague and the Czech Republic is an extremely well-developed nation that has the kind of cost for goods and services that go along with that standing. From a geographical standpoint, it isn't even in eastern Europe but more smack dab in the middle.

You need to RTFF more on this and do your research. Listen to the seasoned, well-traveled, experienced mongers, and you will find that Prague just isn't what it used to be when it comes to mongering. And the best quality available there is expensive! I've found much better Czech talent at better prices in Berlin and Frankfurt! Don't believe me? Then go ahead. Take a trip to Prague and see for yourself. I did, and I had a great time overall just because it is such an interesting place to visit. But from a mongering standpoint, I've enjoyed better. Much, much better at better prices. Have fun. And tell us about it![/QUOTE]The Cane is partly correct in saying that the Golden Age of mongering in Prague is over. Prices used to be very cheap compared to Western Europe, but you really do need to do a lot of homework in order to find the gems that are still present in Prague. A good place to start is these two links listed below. Prague is a very beautiful city and should be on everybody's bucket list for places to visit. If you want to look for sex on the side, it can still be possible. You will not find the convenience of a FKK setup, but if you like a good "privat" apartment setup, Privat Sexy Prague is a good place to start. The apartment is located close to the center of town and is well furnished. Moreover, the girls there are generally nice looking and provide good service. Popular girls are usually booked up quickly, so you must call ahead. I also like to visit one particular gal when I am in Prague. Check out Carmen Firestorm. She only does hotel visits, and will provide you a nice GFE. Besides her looks and great ass, she also has a hidden talent. I won't give it away. You just have to call her up and find out for yourself. Better chance if you book her for a full 3 hour session. Her fees work out to about 100 Euros per hour. Privat girls can be found for as little as 60 Euros per hour, for the same level of service as a FKK. You do have to pay for extras and not every girl offers ANAL, to the chagrin of The Cane.

[URL]http://zlobiveholky.cz/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.masher.cz/[/URL]

[URL]http://carmenfirestorm.moonfruit.com/[/URL]

This is directed to Jooeey who said:

"Well I have seen a lot of guys just drool over Spanish Girls. But does it not get expensive there than going to Eastern Europe the whole idea of going to eastern Europe is great beauty at cheap price. Spain is West Europe I guess would be expensive there. Also I have also always wanted to visit Prague as a Normal Tourist I have been told is a beautiful city with typical European architecture and feel to it. It is very European. So anyways I have on my mind to once visit Czech Republic so I was think why not instead make it a Sex Tourism thing also!

I say go as a tourist and check out all the history and architecture. Go for the beer. The Czechs take great pride in their brew. Lastly, check out their women. They are some of the most beautiful in the world, IMHO. Slowly, the charm is fading from Prague, as the city introduces more western franchises. The city has become so touristy that the local girls do not even party in the center of town. Good luck!

FiddyCent.

[QUOTE=FiddyCent;1647840]The Cane is partly correct in saying that the Golden Age of mongering in Prague is over. Prices used to be very cheap compared to Western Europe, but you really do need to do a lot of homework in order to find the gems that are still present in Prague. Moreover, the girls there are generally nice looking and provide good service.[/QUOTE]No my friend, I'm 100% correct that the "golden age" of mongering in Prague is over. There is mongering to be had for sure, but the action is better in Germany and even Spain in terms of service. Hell I liked fucking in Dubai better! Nor did I find the overall selection of girls in Prague to be on par with what you will find in an FKK in terms of looks. I'm not saying they were all ugly. I'm just saying that I find the optics to be better at the FKKs overall. I saw some girls working in Prague who wouldn't make it past the front door of an FKK! Not unless they were the cleaning ladies. I mean I was shocked! Like missing teeth and shit! I attended the big clubs, privats, Showpark I & II. Everywhere man. Had an escort in my room. Everything except a streetwalker and a "normal" girl LOL!

Oh, and besides the lack of anal you forgot to mention all of the CBJs in Prague versus the BBBJs that are pretty standard in Germany. I knew you would chime in here because you like the place, but I'm here to keep it real and make sure the guys understand the truth because I was there and experienced what the place has to offer. And by the way, I did successfully procure some anal in Prague. If anybody is going to, it will be a cornhole loving monger like me! Fucked a blonde Czech girl in the ass in my hotel room that somebody on ISG set me up with. Butt fucked an average looking brunette Czech girl in one of the privats. She loved it and wanted to start kissing while I buggered her missionary-style. Then fucked a pretty Russian blonde deep in her Slav girl "popeka" in one of the big clubs. She is memorable because she kept saying, "Fuck my Russian ass!" LOLOLOL!

But like I said. For you guys out there who want to hang onto the belief that Prague just must be a top mongering destination, well nobody can tell you anything. So, just go see for yourself. Like Fiddy said, it should be on your bucket list of places to visit if you like to travel. But, if you're a seasoned international monger, you probably will come away just a little bit disappointed when it comes to the PforP scene in Prague. It's not what it used to be! But go see for yourself.