Pattaya Reports

Well the OP can play it anyway he wants. If he wants to play the part of the conned, taken for a ride boyfriend that is fine with me. What I objected to and found distasteful in his storytelling was the way he continually assumed the readers were as naïve as he was. That we did not see the end coming from the very beginning. That is why I only lightly skimmed his subsequent chapters.

This tale should stand as another example in a long list of examples of how not to act with P4P girls and what not to put up with. Again, a punter can do what he wants, but when he starts believing the GFE fantasy is real and allows himself to fall for the con, whatever form the con takes, he inadvertently sets into motion the end of that very relationship that he sought to hold onto.

I have a very simple rule: If a favorite, repeat girl asks me to send money for whatever reason, I simply tell her I cannot and that is that. Then I deduct a point from her scorecard. If I were ever have to deduct 3 points in total, the liaison is over. That said, most of my favorite girls never ask for Western Union. But a few do. Then Corona changed everything, and most, but not all of my repeat favorites asked for money. I sent each girl who asked a little bit ($150) with no points deducted, ha ha, and told them it was a one-time thing. They all accepted the gift gratefully and never asked for more money. I am still in touch with them all and I hope to see them again as soon as possible.

As I wrote in a previous post, I think the OP blew his relationship with the Soi 6 girl because he let emotional BS enter the relationship. Maybe he wanted to take that ride to nowhere, maybe not. But if he has any self-respect left, his relationship with the girl is over. So, move on guy. Learn from your mistake, but do not let the experience harden you. There are many, many really great new bar girls to meet and have GFE good times with. Do not go back to this one unless you enjoyed being taken for a ride, but if you did, in fact, enjoy the ride she put you through, I am sure you can offer her more money to be your one true love again and she will accept it with a smile.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2498164]

"Because I don't work in the factory. Like working in bar. " It seems some people who are not fluent in how some uneducated Thais speak English are taking this to mean she lied to you and she does not work in a factory, but works in a bar instead.

To me it reads nothing like that. It says working in the factory is not the same as working in a bar. In a bar you have all the free time in the world to goof off and write love messages, take 1 million meaningless pictures. In a factory you are on an assembly line working at a constant pace and when you get a break you just want to relax a moment and have time for yourself. I am tired. Give me a fucking break with the needy bullshit.[/QUOTE]It's more likely just to mean working in a factory is like working in a bar. In other words something she doesn't want to do.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2497944]A sad end, but not surprising. This is the end, right? Please tell us you ghosted her.

So many thoughts come to mind. I made a list, but deleted it before posting.

I fully understand the blues you were feeling, same feeling happens to all of us when we lose a girlfriend. Empty. Lost. Hope you are well cured now.[/QUOTE]I never had a GF from a bar in the sense of committed BF GF relationship. As falling in love goes I guess you can always fall in love irrespective of what is the girls line of work. Sure, I had bargirls I liked and would love to be with them when I visit. But if she is not available I do not cry about it. You know what they plenty of pussy!

It will take a long time for this guy to get over this girl looks like. There are plenty of stories of how girls play you till you loose your money, sanity etc. I hope this guy will be okay. Best to stop all contacts. It may be hard but earlier the better.

[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2498217]I recall Hawk being over 70. Makes the the thing utterly Goofy-estorious. Age matters in these things.[/QUOTE]Well sometimes a man wants to believe. I can understand that, but the mind must rule over the heart or else you can get into a whole lot of grief. A good girl does not come up with a tragic story and ask for extra money, but this one did. What if he had said no? She might have realized her error in judgement and changed her attitude or maybe not. No way of telling, but we all have had girls pitch real sad stories and ask for money. Girls, I might add, we just met. I resent the attempt and lower my estimation of the girl immediately. If the requests continue, I will simply delete her Line account. The girl has left me no other choice. But like I said, the good girls do not come up with the tragedies especially within 6 months of having a nice romp with them. That is breaking the unwritten p4 p deal.

And BTW, language and culture have something to do with it. More of my Filipinas girls have asked for wire transfers than my Thai girls or Indonesian girls combined, and I have probably shagged 7 to 8 times more Thai girls than PI girls. Go figure. LOL A common language is sometimes not a good thing. Still, in my humble experience, only a small number of girls pitch the tragic story and ask for WU.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2498249]Well sometimes a man wants to believe. I can understand that, but the mind must rule over the heart or else you can get into a whole lot of grief. A good girl does not come up with a tragic story and ask for extra money, but this one did. [/QUOTE]In this case the girl did not ask for money. He volunteered it as so many guys do.

After a hard day work on the wife farm with the list of stuff I need to do I thought I take a day off and sleep in bit since it was Sunday and I knew there was going to be a family member getting married a few doors but I thought that would be later on the day. Next thing loud speakers go off music louder than in a GoGo, it is 4 am and they are getting ready for the wedding wife tells me get up take a shower by 7 am we are still at the ceremony with monks and over a hundred family.

I took a few pictures for Hawk but not being techno couldn't seem to find out how to download it here? Heh Heh.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2497944]A sad end, but not surprising. This is the end, right? Please tell us you ghosted her. [/QUOTE]You kidding. With ratings even Trump would be jealous of no way. Incidentally best TV viewing anytime anywhere just round the corner and this time it could be more dramatic than anything we have witnessed before.

[QUOTE=*****man;2498183]It's more likely just to mean working in a factory is like working in a bar. In other words something she doesn't want to do.[/QUOTE]That was my interpretation as well. Whenever I don't understand what a girl means I always ask her right away. However, I rarely hang out and Line girls for long who don't have a pretty good grasp of English. Thai Engish is fine. I understand Thai style broken English. I remember one of the first girls I hung out with Thailand used Google translate to converse with me while I was sitting right beside her! I don't have the patience for Google translate.

[QUOTE=Danny Duck;2498217]I recall Hawk being over 70. Makes the the thing utterly Goofy-estorious. Age matters in these things.[/QUOTE]

Hey FL, you've aged!

I've more in the agreement with Mr. E they leave something out turn it around and don't even know it. No one has ever been around her to explain that she got it wrong. I wouldn't make too much out of not talking to them especially when it comes to a farang. Whether you know it or not speaking English isn't on the short list if you put money in their phone and allow them to talk if it is a Thai friend you will run out of money. Line is one of the best things for them if the WiFi is strong you got free calls and video.

Farangs we want to talk when it comes to us for them it is short and simple using line you send a sticky or two and it speaks volume to them. Because money was given to bail her out we want attention some appreciation when it comes to appreciation the western way mean one way to Thais it doesn't even come close to our definition or standard reason why questions are ringing? At times they don't even seem to know what it means?

"Because I don't work in the factory. Like working in bar. ".

Yeah, I'm with a few others here in not really knowing what Secret means by that or if she really meant to say what that second sentence appears to say. If it does mean (she) LIKES working in a bar after all this bit about how she hated it, was not cut out for it and all, that would pretty much be par for the course, imo. But that might not really be what she meant to say.

I too have gotten many written messages from Thai girls where a key word or two has been left out, where they wrote "don't" when the really meant the opposite, or wrote "she" instead of "he", goofy translations and so on. A quick request for clarification would fix it and I am guessing he did ask but has yet to relate that part here.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;2497938] But I knew something was going on due to her texting frequency. And then she responded.
"Because I don't work in the factory. Like working in bar. "..[/QUOTE]I may not be too fluent in Thai- English but Hawk just wrote that she is working in a factory and then suspicion rose. He asked for clarification and got this text. So, I am curious as to what this means. The dot might be his. A keyword might be missing but the context doesn't point to a neutral meaning of those words.

I don't like Thai girls that much. So, I never even tried to repeat a session. (I save my money for FKK Germany.) But I have tried to talk to them via Google translate. Then still all these problems of misinterpretations keep coming up. They get bored by it before I do. Well, just enjoy the show. I do agree that once a girl asks for money beyond her fee, she is not to be trusted. But as far as I read this story, Secret just did not do that. Well, maybe her cunning plan was of a different kind. Who knows.

Seems I'm alone?

First I think Google is one of the worse for translation I wouldn't use it for anything more than a word! Facebook translation is even worse you can't even make out what they are talking about from the translation.

These application when it comes to Thai conversation take all the human factor out of the equation. I do a better job based on what they are saying add that with facial and body language.

Based on what FH, posted I'm more than convinced she really meant? That she doesn't work in a bar any longer but now a factory that being said I don't have the time I did when as a bargirl! Whether she does or doesn't isn't even in the equation maybe for another subject.

Those who say ask for a clarification is just opening another can of worms! Think about it! First most likely they don't even know or recognize the mistake now you want a clarification. As I noted the more one talks the more question if you were right there would see their facial expression that they aren't even listening they have tune you out. Critical thinking being criticized isn't in their teaching in Thai local govenment schools one of the reason when they get lost they don't even bother to do the simple thing and that is ask for direction! It makes them look stupid the same students don't ask questions in class either!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2498164]"Because I don't work in the factory. Like working in bar. " It seems some people who are not fluent in how some uneducated Thais speak English are taking this to mean she lied to you and she does not work in a factory, but works in a bar instead.

To me it reads nothing like that. It says working in the factory is not the same as working in a bar. In a bar you have all the free time in the world to goof off and write love messages, take 1 million meaningless pictures. In a factory you are on an assembly line working at a constant pace and when you get a break you just want to relax a moment and have time for yourself. I am tired. Give me a fucking break with the needy bullshit.[/QUOTE]I don't know what her English level is, but if she wrote it in Thai and then translated it via an application or google translate it cannot be meaning what you said or what or said also.

If she wrote this sentence in Tha.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2498164]"Because I don't work in the factory. Like working in bar. " It seems some people who are not fluent in how some uneducated Thais speak English are taking this to mean she lied to you and she does not work in a factory, but works in a bar instead.

To me it reads nothing like that. It says working in the factory is not the same as working in a bar. In a bar you have all the free time in the world to goof off and write love messages, take 1 million meaningless pictures. In a factory you are on an assembly line working at a constant pace and when you get a break you just want to relax a moment and have time for yourself. I am tired. Give me a fucking break with the needy bullshit.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I didn't finish my last post and don't know how to edit it.

If she wrote that sentence in Thai, and if FL wrote it exactly as she send it to him, the meaning is very clear and cannot be misunderstood.

It means she doesn't like to work in the factory. She likes to work in the bar. There cannot be any misunderstanding unless she wrote it in English out of her mind, and even then I really doubt she would wrote it that way.

Thais never use the word "like" as a synonym to the word "same" as we do in English. The Thai words that would translate to "like" are either the verb "to like" or "to love". If she was meaning "the factory is not the same as the bar" or "working in factory is same working in bar" as other forum members said, she would have used another word that translates directly to word "same". In this case, for me, it's very clear she said she likes working in the bar, and I'm not surprised at all by that statement.

The three most important things about a Thai "girlfriend" are the same as real estate: location, location, and location. If she won't send her location via Line, you know she is lying. The internet has various farang sob stories about Thai girlfriends claiming to be in Isaan working at parents' farm while they are actually in BKK or Pattaya working in the bar. Not too different from the Secret story.