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Even in Angeles, Walking St and its bars are barely a pimple. Most foreigners are hitched up with locals and most locals have no interactions with foreigners. Many locals want the whole show gone. WS basic has society's dregs, fast money, no education rutal women. No offence to them but that is how it is. And lots of Pinoys would be happy for it all to go and the sex tourists to go too.

For my part, I will be back next month, with a non hooker but my problem is I have boxed myself in between her, her job and my hotel. I have to find a way to break free and score other women without being caught or huriting her feelings, whixch are delicate and must be respected for reasons I don't want to go into here.

For me, an extra 2-3 years is fine as beyond that, not even Viagra will make me get a hard on. Sad in a way to see it go but that is how all red light districts end.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2950853]......For me, an extra 2-3 years is fine as beyond that, not even Viagra will make me get a hard on......[/QUOTE]Do not despair. Just find a non-pro who will cook, wash clothes, clean house and look after you. Make sure she's semi-hot and occasionally ask her to do a striptease to test johnson.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2950853]Even in Angeles, Walking St and its bars are barely a pimple. Most foreigners are hitched up with locals and most locals have no interactions with foreigners. Many locals want the whole show gone. WS basic has society's dregs, fast money, no education rutal women. No offence to them but that is how it is. And lots of Pinoys would be happy for it all to go and the sex tourists to go too.

For my part, I will be back next month, with a non hooker but my problem is I have boxed myself in between her, her job and my hotel. I have to find a way to break free and score other women without being caught or huriting her feelings, whixch are delicate and must be respected for reasons I don't want to go into here.

For me, an extra 2-3 years is fine as beyond that, not even Viagra will make me get a hard on. Sad in a way to see it go but that is how all red light districts end.[/QUOTE]. . Never having been to AC, planning on stopping in for one night and one night only. I wish I could have seen the striptease competitions and shit like that in the hay day, but I've always been the non-pro type just using the Hobby on the side to take care of the insatiable hunger that the selfish civvies can never seem to scratch all the way. It's hard banging the shit out of a hottie when her sister and cousin are even hotter and not wanting a piece of that on the side or in the open.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2950776]I call BS on that. I rarely read any stories of guys picking up girls at the discos now and never a price given. But I read many many "Total waste of time!" reports. I remember girls waiting inside the entrance of HISO to get first chance at possible customers walkng into the disco and girls approaching me. Never had seen any any girls waiting just inside the entrance or had anyone approach me at a disco since HISO closed. If ALL the girl customers are hookers at MEGA then where are all the wonderful posts about it like we had with HISO? I have sat and talked to many street girls that sit outside MEGA who do not like the current discos. These girls walk into MEGA, do a walk around, then come out and wait outside hoping to get a customer walking into or out of MEGA, but mostly the guys simply walking past. The street girls are there for many hours, several days per week, and most weeks throughout the year so they know a lot of what is happening since they are always hunting when there. Almost every guy I see going into MEGA has a girl already because he learned that hunting there is pointless.

It seems as if you saw one of your ex-bar girl friends at MEGA so that you assume automatically that all the girls are available and hunting. Maybe a large portion are for 4000+ but that is high compared to a bar girl in a bar that charges 5000 p and she only gets half (2500 p) plus good tip 1000 p for a total of 3500 p. So 3500 p is a fair hunting price.

I will be there Oct 17,18, and maybe 19. If you or anyone wants to meet to prove me wrong. Please do so. We will talk to some of the street girls sitting outside MEGA for thier comments and then work our way inside to see who is avaiable and for how much. Send me a message.[/QUOTE]I agree there are lots of people just partying in Mega, but there are certainly freelancers there. I went in there in July with two girls and one girl recognized her ex-coworker from Viking. She told me she is a freelancer so I just went up to the girl asked her if we could talk for a moment. I took her into the corridor next to the CRs and asked how much. She said 5 k per night. We agreed the details and she said ok. We went back to our group, billed out and left. That girl then stayed with me for three days.

Now, people may say 5K is high, but she stayed with me 24/7 for three days at 5k per day, so I think thats not too bad. How many places in this world will a hot girl stay with you three days straight, doing whatever you want, for $90 per day?

So there are freelancers in Mega. I think most of them hang out at the free tables near the DJ. Expect to pay 5k-10 k per night. (The days of 1-1.5k at Mega are looong gone).

Just bear in mind that some of these girls have high expectations. The girl I took for 5 k told me that a local expat asked her to be his live in GF with a 60 k per month allowance but she turned him down.

But the Mega "Freelancers" are more like profesional escorts than the freelancers that used to show up at Hiso. They were mostly low class trash from the province. The curent generation are still fundamentally trash but are more savvy and seem to know their worth.

Some guys get a VIP table then invite girls to their table, but that's an expensive way to do it.

As for freelancers sitting around outside, that got harder because they used to sit on a low wall near the trike stand but the wall has been removed now. So you wont be able to talk to girls sitting there. Another nail in the coffin of the 'Old" Walking St...

[QUOTE=Jarango;2950853]Even in Angeles, Walking St and its bars are barely a pimple. Most foreigners are hitched up with locals and most locals have no interactions with foreigners. Many locals want the whole show gone. WS basic has society's dregs, fast money, no education rutal women. No offence to them but that is how it is. And lots of Pinoys would be happy for it all to go and the sex tourists to go too.

For my part, I will be back next month, with a non hooker but my problem is I have boxed myself in between her, her job and my hotel. I have to find a way to break free and score other women without being caught or huriting her feelings, whixch are delicate and must be respected for reasons I don't want to go into here.

For me, an extra 2-3 years is fine as beyond that, not even Viagra will make me get a hard on. Sad in a way to see it go but that is how all red light districts end.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, most of the bargirls are from the botom tier, especially from Samar. One of the girls showed me pics from her house in Samar and its literally a pile of cinder blocks with a tin roof. Its shocking how they live. Don't let the makeup and sexy clothes fool you. Guys must be out of their mind to marry one of these girls. Its true that some locals want to get rid of WS. They will do that once the powers that be can make more money somewhere else (e.g. real estate linked to Clark etc).

Regarding your GF, my suggestion is to ditch her. It makes no sense to go to pussy paradise and then be locked down. Dont let the girl control the narrative. Just look at the old foreigners with the Pinay wives, not many smiling faces. These gals don't age well. Pinays are loyal they say...yeah, female cats are loyal and keep coming home as long as you feed them. But they are out all night geting fucked by every tomcat in town.

[QUOTE=Pussycat123;2950952]Yeah, most of the bargirls are from the botom tier, especially from Samar. One of the girls showed me pics from her house in Samar and its literally a pile of cinder blocks with a tin roof. Its shocking how they live. Don't let the makeup and sexy clothes fool you. Guys must be out of their mind to marry one of these girls. Its true that some locals want to get rid of WS. They will do that once the powers that be can make more money somewhere else (e.g. real estate linked to Clark etc).

Regarding your GF, my suggestion is to ditch her. It makes no sense to go to pussy paradise and then be locked down. Dont let the girl control the narrative. Just look at the old foreigners with the Pinay wives, not many smiling faces. These gals don't age well. Pinays are loyal they say...yeah, female cats are loyal and keep coming home as long as you feed them. But they are out all night geting fucked by every tomcat in town.[/QUOTE]I'm not worried as much about what their house back home looks like. My pinay wife had a home with no cinder blocks or metal roof when I met her. Bamboo and anahau. She also was never a bar girl. I think how / where you meet the girl is far more important than what kind of house she had or where she lives. That said, I do know the improbably American who met and married a bar girl and has lived happily ever after for the last 7 years, so it can happen.

Like any bar all over the world, the staff and dancers are available but under very specific circumstances. If you're handsome, charismatic, dress well, and aren't a creep. On my last trip, there was a very hot 'floor manager' at Mega who wore sexy dresses each night and walked around with a walkie talkie and basically supervised. We hit it off and she offered me her number. We texted plenty and would flirt when I'd come to Mega but I decided I had no interest in putting in all the work. In AC there is just so much available that's easier. I saw this same girl one day in the elevator at Central Park, where she claimed she was coming from a 'business meeting'. She had a lot of specifics about the owner of the business and the type of business and her role, so who knows, she could have been telling the truth. Anyway, sometimes you pay for convenience. When you're visiting, time is precious, and I don't generally want to use it up jumping through hoops to get a girl.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2950970]Like any bar all over the world, the staff and dancers are available but under very specific circumstances. If you're handsome, charismatic, dress well, and aren't a creep. On my last trip, there was a very hot 'floor manager' at Mega who wore sexy dresses each night and walked around with a walkie talkie and basically supervised. We hit it off and she offered me her number. We texted plenty and would flirt when I'd come to Mega but I decided I had no interest in putting in all the work. In AC there is just so much available that's easier. I saw this same girl one day in the elevator at Central Park, where she claimed she was coming from a 'business meeting'. She had a lot of specifics about the owner of the business and the type of business and her role, so who knows, she could have been telling the truth. Anyway, sometimes you pay for convenience. When you're visiting, time is precious, and I don't generally want to use it up jumping through hoops to get a girl.[/QUOTE]I barfined a girl at Viking. We kept in touch and she told me she quit the bar. Then over a 9 month period I visited Angeles several times and I fucked the shit out of her every time. I just paid her per night, like a barfine.

It turned out she had been supported by another guy from the US the whole time and that's why she had quit the bar. The guy goes to Angeles a couple of weeks a year. So he had been supporting her the whole time just so he could fuck her when he goes to Angeles for two weeks a year, whereas I was just pay to play.

Bottom line guys, don't chase or support girls. Just hit them up when you are in town.

[QUOTE=Pussycat123;2950981]I barfined a girl at Viking. We kept in touch and she told me she quit the bar. Then over a 9 month period I visited Angeles several times and I fucked the shit out of her every time. I just paid her per night, like a barfine.

It turned out she had been supported by another guy from the US the whole time and that's why she had quit the bar. The guy goes to Angeles a couple of weeks a year. So he had been supporting her the whole time just so he could fuck her when he goes to Angeles for two weeks a year, whereas I was just pay to play.

Bottom line guys, don't chase or support girls. Just hit them up when you are in town.[/QUOTE]I was going to say that hot girls, surrounded by high rollers who visit a few times a year have "SPONSORED" written all over them.

I'd agree, that opens up the opportunity to be a side dick, for the right guy, at much reduced rates.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Pussycat123;2950952]Yeah, most of the bargirls are from the botom tier, especially from Samar. One of the girls showed me pics from her house in Samar and its literally a pile of cinder blocks with a tin roof. Its shocking how they live. Don't let the makeup and sexy clothes fool you. Guys must be out of their mind to marry one of these girls. Its true that some locals want to get rid of WS. They will do that once the powers that be can make more money somewhere else (e.g. real estate linked to Clark etc).

Regarding your GF, my suggestion is to ditch her. It makes no sense to go to pussy paradise and then be locked down. Dont let the girl control the narrative. Just look at the old foreigners with the Pinay wives, not many smiling faces. These gals don't age well. Pinays are loyal they say...yeah, female cats are loyal and keep coming home as long as you feed them. But they are out all night geting fucked by every tomcat in town.[/QUOTE]The real problem with Pinay pussy and what really sets them apart from other Asian girls is that unlike Asian chicks Filipinas don't look that good past the age of 25. Their looks start to slide off quickly after that, and by age 30 Filipinas don't look great. They're hot when they're young, but once they graduate from being girls to women they're wallpaper. This is but ONE of the many reasons you don't marry a filipina.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2950776]I call BS on that. I rarely read any stories of guys picking up girls at the discos now and never a price given. But I read many many "Total waste of time!" reports. I remember girls waiting inside the entrance of HISO to get first chance at possible customers walkng into the disco and girls approaching me. Never had seen any any girls waiting just inside the entrance or had anyone approach me at a disco since HISO closed. If ALL the girl customers are hookers at MEGA then where are all the wonderful posts about it like we had with HISO? I have sat and talked to many street girls that sit outside MEGA who do not like the current discos. These girls walk into MEGA, do a walk around, then come out and wait outside hoping to get a customer walking into or out of MEGA, but mostly the guys simply walking past. The street girls are there for many hours, several days per week, and most weeks throughout the year so they know a lot of what is happening since they are always hunting when there. Almost every guy I see going into MEGA has a girl already because he learned that hunting there is pointless.

It seems as if you saw one of your ex-bar girl friends at MEGA so that you assume automatically that all the girls are available and hunting. Maybe a large portion are for 4000+ but that is high compared to a bar girl in a bar that charges 5000 p and she only gets half (2500 p) plus good tip 1000 p for a total of 3500 p. So 3500 p is a fair hunting price.

I will be there Oct 17,18, and maybe 19. If you or anyone wants to meet to prove me wrong. Please do so. We will talk to some of the street girls sitting outside MEGA for thier comments and then work our way inside to see who is avaiable and for how much. Send me a message.[/QUOTE]I will be in AC on the same dates this month. Spent two months in AC last summer and agree completely with your analysis of Megadance. I had a 0. 0% success rate at Mega went in a few times during the two-month period any whare from midnight to 3 am. Most women were in groups which usually included a few guys as part of the group. No one seemed interested or showed any attention in my direction so I never cold approached any group of girls especially if there were guys as part of the group which was most groups. I would always leave empty handed from Mega and would often sit at Kokamos to watch the crowd and on several occasions I would see the groups of girls I seen at Mega leaving in their groups with no customers which suggested to me they were not there to pick up customers but were there to hang out with their friends. If an exceptionally hansom guy approaches them or a guy throws big money at them they will probably go but that is not the reason for them going to mega.

[QUOTE=Pussycat123;2950707]The mayor of Angeles announced that he wants to turn WS in "Red Street" which will basically be cafes and restaurants.....
I'm guessing AC in its current form has 2-3 years left. For the moment, the local politicians allow the bars to stay open because they own the buildings and can charge exorbitant rents. But there are other risks as well. If China invades Taiwan as Xi has vowed to do, all hell will break loose in SE Asia and none of us will be flying to the Philipppines.

Just enjoy it while you can, folks.[/QUOTE]Ok, I had been putting off my first AC visit for 5-6 years, but now it is time. I didn't realize that the AC life was an endangered species. I am now planning on going there later this winter.

Fellas, I need some advice planning my time. For this trip, I was planning on splitting my time between El Nido and AC. I have read that there is nothing to do here except punt. Probably plan to relax by the pool at ABC and / or do some work in the day, and punt at night.

How many nights is enough at AC before I get bored? Making a preliminary schedule, I could either be in AC Mon / Tues / Sat OR Th / FR / Sat. Any thoughts? Is it dead during the week? Or too crowded on the weekends?

I have been a punter for a little over a decade. Experienced, though maybe not super duper experienced. I was in the PI about 5-6 years ago, but did NOT hit AC. Over the years, I have been to most of the major haunts around the world. I figured three nights tops.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Manny51;2951008]Ok, I had been putting off my first AC visit for 5-6 years, but now it is time. I didn't realize that the AC life was an endangered species. I am now planning on going there later this winter.

Fellas, I need some advice planning my time. For this trip, I was planning on splitting my time between El Nido and AC. I have read that there is nothing to do here except punt. Probably plan to relax by the pool at ABC and / or do some work in the day, and punt at night.

How many nights is enough at AC before I get bored? Making a preliminary schedule, I could either be in AC Mon / Tues / Sat OR Th / FR / Sat. Any thoughts? Is it dead during the week? Or too crowded on the weekends?

I have been a punter for a little over a decade. Experienced, though maybe not super duper experienced. I was in the PI about 5-6 years ago, but did NOT hit AC. Over the years, I have been to most of the major haunts around the world. I figured three nights tops.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]The sensible part of me would say, for three days, just skip it and stay in Makati. Save yourself the extra travel time and Makati is designed precisely for the 3 day millionaire anyway. Burgos is as much a newbie must do as AC.

I'm finding it harder to recommend AC for newbies to visit but if you do want to add it to your monger list or see it before it disappears, then the weekend stop is a much better idea.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Manny51;2951008]Ok, I had been putting off my first AC visit for 5-6 years, but now it is time. I didn't realize that the AC life was an endangered species. I am now planning on going there later this winter.

Fellas, I need some advice planning my time. For this trip, I was planning on splitting my time between El Nido and AC. I have read that there is nothing to do here except punt. Probably plan to relax by the pool at ABC and / or do some work in the day, and punt at night.

How many nights is enough at AC before I get bored? Making a preliminary schedule, I could either be in AC Mon / Tues / Sat OR Th / FR / Sat. Any thoughts? Is it dead during the week? Or too crowded on the weekends?

I have been a punter for a little over a decade. Experienced, though maybe not super duper experienced. I was in the PI about 5-6 years ago, but did NOT hit AC. Over the years, I have been to most of the major haunts around the world. I figured three nights tops.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]ABC is nice, but overrated. Why blow so much money on accommodations that you're not going to really stay at?

Get an airbnb at Kandi and have fun, I wouldn't do less than a week in AC myself.

[QUOTE=Manny51;2951008]Ok, I had been putting off my first AC visit for 5-6 years, but now it is time. I didn't realize that the AC life was an endangered species. I am now planning on going there later this winter.

Fellas, I need some advice planning my time. For this trip, I was planning on splitting my time between El Nido and AC. I have read that there is nothing to do here except punt. Probably plan to relax by the pool at ABC and / or do some work in the day, and punt at night.

How many nights is enough at AC before I get bored? Making a preliminary schedule, I could either be in AC Mon / Tues / Sat OR Th / FR / Sat. Any thoughts? Is it dead during the week? Or too crowded on the weekends?

I have been a punter for a little over a decade. Experienced, though maybe not super duper experienced. I was in the PI about 5-6 years ago, but did NOT hit AC. Over the years, I have been to most of the major haunts around the world. I figured three nights tops.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]I recommend staying at ABC. I like the Aqua Suites which is in the new tower with Aqua Club on the 7th floor. ABC has in room legit massage services to 2 am. A little pricy for PH 1300 per hour but an excellent massage. You can try Aqua Club for FL. Weekdays are quiet. More weekend quests in the hotel. Short distance to Walking street bars and quick trike ride back with your cuties.

Also there are direct flight from Clark to El Nido and back. Pick up a cutie in AC to take with you to El Nido!

Have fun.