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[QUOTE=Manny51;2951008]Ok, I had been putting off my first AC visit for 5-6 years, but now it is time. I didn't realize that the AC life was an endangered species. I am now planning on going there later this winter.

Fellas, I need some advice planning my time. For this trip, I was planning on splitting my time between El Nido and AC. I have read that there is nothing to do here except punt. Probably plan to relax by the pool at ABC and / or do some work in the day, and punt at night.

How many nights is enough at AC before I get bored? Making a preliminary schedule, I could either be in AC Mon / Tues / Sat OR Th / FR / Sat. Any thoughts? Is it dead during the week? Or too crowded on the weekends?

I have been a punter for a little over a decade. Experienced, though maybe not super duper experienced. I was in the PI about 5-6 years ago, but did NOT hit AC. Over the years, I have been to most of the major haunts around the world. I figured three nights tops.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Well AC might last longer than three years but its in decline. Maybe its on death row but some guys spend 20 years on death row.

El Nido is pretty but its a tourist trap. There is no girl action there to my knowledge. I was in Coron for diving and that place is hyped also, but its a dump with no beach. Boracay has a nice beach but its boring.

Anyway my 2 cents, spend 3 nights in AC and you will have fun. Ive been there five times this year, the last trip was one month ago. Someone just counted the bars on Walking St and suprisingly there are still 43. Thats at least 1,000 girls. Just hit Qbar, Lollipop, Viking and Sensations and you can't go wrong. Personally I would skip Manila. There arent many bars and just this month two clubs, namely Fyre and Neon Nights, got raided and shut down. Plus the barfine prices are much higher than AC.

I usually stay in Angeles 7 nights and I'm not bored. On weekends its flooded with Koreans who arrive in white vans at 10 am sharp and scoop up lots of girls. But the place is more lively on the weekends. Quieter but more girl choice on the weekdays perhaps.

As for hotels, I would rather stay in a place like Central Park than ABC as its a 2 minute walk to the bars, vs a trike ride from ABC.

[QUOTE=Pussycat123;2950940]I agree there are lots of people just partying in Mega, but there are certainly freelancers there. I went in there in July with two girls and one girl recognized her ex-coworker from Viking. She told me she is a freelancer so I just went up to the girl asked her if we could talk for a moment. I took her into the corridor next to the CRs and asked how much. She said 5 k per night.

As for freelancers sitting around outside, that got harder because they used to sit on a low wall near the trike stand but the wall has been removed now. So you wont be able to talk to girls sitting there. Another nail in the coffin of the 'Old" Walking St...[/QUOTE]There are freelancers in MEGA. Not real insightful because 99% of the women on the planet all have a price. In fact, I bet an average guy could offer $50,000 and sex 90% of the women on the planet the night before her wedding and she will happily cheat! The 2 biggest factors are 1) price 2) 100% secrecy. You offer to meet 20 miles out of town where nobody could possibly know her and she will jump at the chance for a 3 hour $50,000 F. Feast. My point was that there are very few and at a higher than worth it price point. But my main point was that his statement of "all hookers, no exceptions" is a flat out 100% lie or stupidity.

I was there 2 months ago and since then they took out the sitting wall across MEGA. That simple act alone will decrease the amount of street girls by 20% minimum after Christmas.

Another point, there are very few freebies anywhere anymore even if you are young and in good shape. Even the "good" girls want paid in one form or another or you lied making her think you are looking for a GF / marriage. And if I have more money and willing to spend it on her she will be mine. But no worries there because I am a Cheap Charlie. If anything I will scare her into your arms. Haha!

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[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2950565]About the customer girls: they are all hookers, no exception, even the occasional stewardesses that overnight in ac and come to megadance for a night out (had one of those as a GF also). If you're handsome or you find a girl drunk enough you can get a freebie.[/QUOTE]

My bad! I was too quick to asses the pace of the WS overhaul, I forgot we are in the PH. Whatever they finished paving last week, today they excavated again, for unknown reasons, maybe one of the workers lost his favorite lighter while pouring the concrete, and they were looking for it. The whole street looks like a war zone again.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2950776]I call BS on that. I rarely read any stories of guys picking up girls at the discos now and never a price given. But I read many many "Total waste of time!" reports. I remember girls waiting inside the entrance of HISO to get first chance at possible customers walkng into the disco and girls approaching me. Never had seen any any girls waiting just inside the entrance or had anyone approach me at a disco since HISO closed. If ALL the girl customers are hookers at MEGA then where are all the wonderful posts about it like we had with HISO? I have sat and talked to many street girls that sit outside MEGA who do not like the current discos. These girls walk into MEGA, do a walk around, then come out and wait outside hoping to get a customer walking into or out of MEGA, but mostly the guys simply walking past. The street girls are there for many hours, several days per week, and most weeks throughout the year so they know a lot of what is happening since they are always hunting when there. Almost every guy I see going into MEGA has a girl already because he learned that hunting there is pointless.

It seems as if you saw one of your ex-bar girl friends at MEGA so that you assume automatically that all the girls are available and hunting. Maybe a large portion are for 4000+ but that is high compared to a bar girl in a bar that charges 5000 p and she only gets half (2500 p) plus good tip 1000 p for a total of 3500 p. So 3500 p is a fair hunting price.

I will be there Oct 17,18, and maybe 19. If you or anyone wants to meet to prove me wrong. Please do so. We will talk to some of the street girls sitting outside MEGA for thier comments and then work our way inside to see who is avaiable and for how much. Send me a message.[/QUOTE]Maybe read again what I was saying, they are all hookers, but some may be already taken, and in there just for fun, therefore observe their entourage before wasting you time. Just find any that's by herself, and ask directly how much? I don't think you will get turned down. I don't know what's the going rate, because I always been there accompanied and not looking for it, also at my age I would look ridiculous on the dance floor, but I assume it's just like the street price, 1500 to whatever they can get out of you. And yes I saw many of my old barfines there, and they were all looking to make some money afterwork, or if barfined already, just trying to get the guy tired and drunk, so they have less workload. Not trying to prove you or anyone else wrong, I'm way pass that. Just sharing some "wisdom".

[QUOTE=Manny51;2951008]Ok, I had been putting off my first AC visit for 5-6 years, but now it is time. I didn't realize that the AC life was an endangered species. I am now planning on going there later this winter.

Fellas, I need some advice planning my time. For this trip, I was planning on splitting my time between El Nido and AC. I have read that there is nothing to do here except punt. Probably plan to relax by the pool at ABC and / or do some work in the day, and punt at night.

How many nights is enough at AC before I get bored? Making a preliminary schedule, I could either be in AC Mon / Tues / Sat OR Th / FR / Sat. Any thoughts? Is it dead during the week? Or too crowded on the weekends?

I have been a punter for a little over a decade. Experienced, though maybe not super duper experienced. I was in the PI about 5-6 years ago, but did NOT hit AC. Over the years, I have been to most of the major haunts around the world. I figured three nights tops.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]If you're coming here only for 2-3 nights then probably will not get any relax time. I reccomend hotel royal amsterdam, cost about $60/ night and no more than 1 minute walk to the action, I always stay there when in town for a short visit. If you like LEDs around the mirrors and the crown molding, or if you need to impress your barfine then ABC is the choice. But I would say that a nice tip will be more appreciated by the girl than the ABC's plush.

[QUOTE=Pussycat123;2951083]Well AC might last longer than three years but its in decline. Maybe its on death row but some guys spend 20 years on death row.

El Nido is pretty but its a tourist trap. There is no girl action there to my knowledge. I was in Coron for diving and that place is hyped also, but its a dump with no beach. Boracay has a nice beach but its boring.

Anyway my 2 cents, spend 3 nights in AC and you will have fun. Ive been there five times this year, the last trip was one month ago. Someone just counted the bars on Walking St and suprisingly there are still 43. Thats at least 1,000 girls. Just hit Qbar, Lollipop, Viking and Sensations and you can't go wrong. Personally I would skip Manila. There arent many bars and just this month two clubs, namely Fyre and Neon Nights, got raided and shut down. Plus the barfine prices are much higher than AC.

I usually stay in Angeles 7 nights and I'm not bored. On weekends its flooded with Koreans who arrive in white vans at 10 am sharp and scoop up lots of girls. But the place is more lively on the weekends. Quieter but more girl choice on the weekdays perhaps.

As for hotels, I would rather stay in a place like Central Park than ABC as its a 2 minute walk to the bars, vs a trike ride from ABC.[/QUOTE]Thanks for all the responses fellas!

I looked at Royal Amsterdam and the suite was $100 USD. ABC was something like $130, but much nicer AND you get the rooftop pool and all the other facilities. Unless it is TOO far away, I would like the other amenities so that I can entertain myself during the day -- read a book by the pool, etc.

I am leaning towards a Wed, Th, and Friday night stay, leaving on Sat afternoon. Going to spend the first half of the week in El Nido.

I remember how terrible Manila airport was. Definitely going to fly through Clark this time through.

And yes, it is a Punter Bucket List thing. I saw all of Manila and Cebu that I wanted to see 6 years ago. Even if AC is not as good as it used to be, I can't NOT check it out. The legends call.....

[QUOTE=Manny51;2951294]Thanks for all the responses fellas!

I looked at Royal Amsterdam and the suite was $100 USD. ABC was something like $130, but much nicer AND you get the rooftop pool and all the other facilities. Unless it is TOO far away, I would like the other amenities so that I can entertain myself during the day -- read a book by the pool, etc.

I am leaning towards a Wed, Th, and Friday night stay, leaving on Sat afternoon. Going to spend the first half of the week in El Nido.

I remember how terrible Manila airport was. Definitely going to fly through Clark this time through.

And yes, it is a Punter Bucket List thing. I saw all of Manila and Cebu that I wanted to see 6 years ago. Even if AC is not as good as it used to be, I can't NOT check it out. The legends call.....[/QUOTE]Don't get me wrong ABC is cool. Trike to Walking St is maybe 150 p and you could even get a Jeepney from outside ABC for about 15 p just for the hell of it. Get off at the Jeepney terminus then walk the last 2 minutes to WS.

Hell, you can even walk from ABC to WS, is only 500 m. Walk there then trike back with your barfine. (And with the traffic at 5pm, it might be quicker to walk....)

[QUOTE=Pussycat123;2951310]Don't get me wrong ABC is cool. Trike to Walking St is maybe 150 p and you could even get a Jeepney from outside ABC for about 15 p just for the hell of it. Get off at the Jeepney terminus then walk the last 2 minutes to WS.

Hell, you can even walk from ABC to WS, is only 500 m. Walk there then trike back with your barfine. (And with the traffic at 5pm, it might be quicker to walk....)[/QUOTE]Have they stopped the free courtesy car??

[QUOTE=Goferring;2951329]Have they stopped the free courtesy car??[/QUOTE]Don't know, I've never stayed there, I just drank at Aqua Beach Club on the roof.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2951329]Have they stopped the free courtesy car??[/QUOTE]You have to be a VIP Member to qualify for the free courtesy car service. The service includes a certain area around town. Also to and from Clark Airport.

VIP members enjoy 10% discounts on ABC and Aqua charges and lower room rates. Not sure whether a minimum of 10 or 20 days stays a year to qualify for VIP.

ABC is cool, no doubt. I will be there for the NYE white party this year. Girls like it when they hear you're staying there. And definitely check it out on a weekend night. The bar-attached jacuzzi is nice, and likely will be populated with a few hot girls. But, Central Park is almost as nice, a bit cheaper, and girls like it even more, because it's only steps from walking street.

[QUOTE=Pussycat123;2951083]Well AC might last longer than three years but its in decline. Maybe its on death row but some guys spend 20 years on death row.
[/QUOTE]Although I've made my observations of AC fairly clear in previous posts, I have to agree PC.

I've only been there a handful of times to coordinate with business trips.

Do I think the place is a shithole? Yes.

Did I have a good time there? Yes.

I managed to take my usual route and avoid the bar fines and exorbitant lady drinks on WS and compensate the girls I hooked up with accordingly. Sure, some tried to play the game, but with experience, you know how to retaliate, in the nicest possible way.

Ultimately, it all comes down to customer satisfaction and the girls will be rewarded for their efforts.

I've just found that over time, taking the third party out of the equation (the bars) it's more personable, there's a better performance from the girls and when you set the bar and say, "Hey, I'll look after you, buy you food, offer you a nice bed and room for the night, but I'm going to reward you 500 p a shot".

I know you'd have to have some experience in The Phils to take this approach, but it works.

As for AC, I've met loads of guys more recently where the place definitely serves its purpose. Sure, it might not be what it used to be, but hey, as long as you have a good time, who cares?

As for hotels, Wild Orchid has worked for me. It's old but hanging in there with great pools, food and staff.

IF AC is your thing and it works for you, go for it.

Just my experience_Phil.

Hello everyone,

I'm going to Angeles city next week for the first time. I've been to Manila and Cebu a few times but it's my first time in Angeles. I've already got a hotel booked that's 10 minutes from walking street.

My budget is 10000 pesos per night for 4 nights each, this includes a few drinks for me and barfine for the girl taking her dinner and then back to mine. I'm look to barfine a different each night for LT (12 hrs).

I'm not fussed about the looks as long as she can speak English and is able to entertain all night. (Don't even mind a ufo).

I heard Viking is good. What other places should I try? What are the prices for a barfine? Are there any tips you guys can share.

Also, am I better off buying ladyb drinks until I meet a girl I like or should I just buy the mamassang a lady drink with a tip and get her to get me a suitable girl?

[QUOTE=Pussycat123;2951344]Don't know, I've never stayed there, I just drank at Aqua Beach Club on the roof.[/QUOTE]The last time I visited ABC a few months ago on a Friday night I was sorely disappointed. Sure, there were guys having fun with Filipinas in the pool area but the only available ones I saw were old and wanted some ridiculous amount 10000 p for a short time. I routinely stay at Orchid Inn down the street from Phillies. The rooms are old but refurnished. The staff knows me so I get treated real good. Nice pool. It's kind of a family place but there are still guys like me bringing in their date (s) at all hours of the day and night.

[QUOTE=Ssam123;2951490]Hello everyone,

I'm going to Angeles city next week for the first time. .. Are there any tips you guys can share.
[/QUOTE]Try not to buy a bar, many first timers get caught up in it and end up losing their money!