Sao Paulo Reports

I enjoyed reading your report, Nrlmus. Your perspective on Augusta was both interesting and informative. You know I will have to check out Patna one afternoon just for the hell of it although it is later at night when the street comes alive.

As to Casarao, I view the girls and the action there as a raw slice of the SP nightlife. It is a meat market, but a very good one IMHO. It sort of reminds me of the original Thermae in BKK, when it was great. KKK /555. I usually show up at Casarao around midnight when it is packed with girls. I walk around and find a girl that looks good to me, we talk a little, and if she seems nice, away we go. I hate the adjacent hotel because some of the rooms are appalling so I always take my girls back to my hotel for same price minus the hotel charge and the girls usually stay longer than an hour. I make them comfortable and supply the booze & smoke. They provide the entertainment.

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;3022594]Sao Paulo was my last stop of over 2-months long trip. I always try to fly out of Sao Paulo because how can you visit Brazil and not stop by Scandalo? At least IMHO, and I'm not what you call a wealthy guy too.

I stayed on Rua Augusta, and I found it as safe as any other place I stayed in SP. Yes, it's a hip area, sort of like Parque de las Hippies in Bogota. I found both areas harmless and I do look reasonably gringo.

There is some sporadic street action on Augusta, mostly daytime when Casarao and other numerous similar clubs in the area are closed.

You can run into incidental programas all the way up to Paulista but the main spot is a small luncheonette called Patna.

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Now onto to the clubs. Casarao is ok. This was my first time there. 40 brl entry or 60 brl consumable (one drink). You could enter other clubs nearby for 20 brl and even for free.

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The atmosphere at Casarao is pretty rambunctious. The music is loud. You feel that you're in the neighborhood club. Both times I was there it was reasonably busy. On Wednesday around 10 ish-11 ish moderately so. Got it on with the girl named Quezia. Nice, pretty, well build imo, 1. 66 cm, very small tits. She wouldn't go to my place only to the rooms or hotels (not my thing) so I just had a nice half-and-hour kiss and squeeze session with her for a 100 brl right there at the club. Good kisser, loves to have her boobs lightly bitten. Have her contact info if anybody's interested.

On Friday Casarao was packed so I left quickly and went to Scandalo which for me is a must stop every time I'm in SP.

Now Scandalo is a must visit at least once in your lifetime. The density of a 'gorgeous woman per square meter / foot' is probably the highest in the world. They are nice and friendly too while in Casarao I found many to be somewhat stand-offish.

The difference between how they look and the clothes they wear in Casarao and Scandalo is about the same as between Casarao and the street, as in huge, enormous, massive, or you can use any other trump-speak vocabulary to describe Scandalo.

It's the same of course regarding price. There is a huge difference and justifiably so. Scandalo is 600,400 of which is consumable. Step into Scandalo however and you'd know that the price fits the product. Women at Scandalo ask for 1000-1500 brl + 350-400 for the room, or 400 bar fine to take them out. You can probably find some of them somewhere else too, and for less but not all of them, and I doubt the prettiest ones too. In scandalo they're all assembled in one place. It truly is a sight to behold.

I got 'my' girl Bruna to spend the night at my place for 1,000 + 400 for the casa. But you got to chat them up first to get this type of rate and for the whole night. Brasileira got to like you and want to do it, or it would be room only and for no more than 40 minutes. Not sure if 1000 brl would do too. I speak pretty good Portuguese so in that I usually do have a leg up on many gringos.

Ladies must work 5 days / week in Scandalo, or they pay 400 brl entry. I also spoke to one of the managers. The interview process for girls wanting to work there is pretty intense for this type of place. Looks, and they do make them strip to ensure that there are no stretch marks + how they come across: no ghetto, even if you're gorgeous apparently is a must, they must be able to hold conversation which is nice to know. Every girl I chatted with in Scandalo was friendly and generally fluid in convo. Nice.

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For me Scandalo is a must stop. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rahsta;3022803]Whats the address for Connection? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Never mind, I found it.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3022541]My first time to Brazil, but from what I read, post pandemic everything increased drastically in the boates correct? Did prices basically double?

Expensive to get into the boates, but at least no tipping![/QUOTE]It did not double immediately. I think I was paying 500 on my first one, then between 500 and 1000. I have never been quoted those high prices in Scandallo but it has already happened regularly online. It became a different game about 2 or 3 years ago and you have to make an effort to negotiate to get a fair price. There is a report saying the owner told the girls to charge more too. I just decided to travel to where they come from and they are more honest. LOL. You see a different side of them before they reach the big city.

My comment was about the entry cost increase of Connection. The club wasn't anything special.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3022866]I enjoyed reading your report, Nrlmus. Your perspective on Augusta was both interesting and informative. You know I will have to check out Patna one afternoon just for the hell of it although it is later at night when the street comes alive.

As to Casarao, I view the girls and the action there as a raw slice of the SP nightlife. It is a meat market, but a very good one IMHO. It sort of reminds me of the original Thermae in BKK, when it was great. KKK /555. I usually show up at Casarao around midnight when it is packed with girls. I walk around and find a girl that looks good to me, we talk a little, and if she seems nice, away we go. I hate the adjacent hotel because some of the rooms are appalling so I always take my girls back to my hotel for same price minus the hotel charge and the girls usually stay longer than an hour. I make them comfortable and supply the booze & smoke. They provide the entertainment.[/QUOTE]Thank you Axel. Yes, check out Patna but it's probably weekdays only. I didn't see anyone there all day Saturday. Back in the day I'd always find some more than acceptable action on Augusta. Where are you going to be staying? PM, if you'd rather.

Next time I'd be sure to be more assertive in Casarao.

I've been to Scandallo, and used to concur with JimmyBoy -- go for the food using the entrance fee towards that with some friends after hitting the prives. But that was at an entrance of 300. These prices are ridiculous. You could easily get 2 or 3 prive / clinica sessions which is the sweet spot in Rio and SP.

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;3022594]Sao Paulo was my last stop of over 2-months long trip. I always try to fly out of Sao Paulo because how can you visit Brazil and not stop by Scandalo? At least IMHO, and I'm not what you call a wealthy guy too.

I stayed on Rua Augusta, and I found it as safe as any other place I stayed in SP. Yes, it's a hip area, sort of like Parque de las Hippies in Bogota. I found both areas harmless and I do look reasonably gringo.

There is some sporadic street action on Augusta, mostly daytime when Casarao and other numerous similar clubs in the area are closed.

You can run into incidental programas all the way up to Paulista but the main spot is a small luncheonette called Patna.

I think I saw Angelina (in her mid-30's) every day, but you see other younger ones too. Some would later go to Casarao or other places around. Many are not dressed well enough to be let in anywhere. Some indeed look like druggies, mostly white chicks but if you're willing to take a chance I saw some pretty fresh, and good looking junkies among them too. Others are fine and are just having their cerveja. Just chat them up and I'm sure you could have most of them for 200, if not less. I'm pretty sure that if they like you, they'the hang with you to no limit. I just never got that far because I only had 4 days in SP, had to do tourism, meet friends, etc. Intended to but when I was ready for one of them on Saturday (I was leaving Saturday night), I found nobody at Patna, so look at it as a weekday daytime programa hangout...[/QUOTE]

So the Scandalllo subject has been done to death. It costs what it costs. There is a high concentration of attractive women. This post is about Moema Prime. There was a time when I understood why it cost nearly double what the Vila Mariana classics Tangara and Yankin cost. The facility was nicer and the quality of the girls was noticeably better. Based on my my recent couple of visits to Prime that is no longer the case. The rooms and the waiting room are worn and in need of repairsl Both Tangara and Yankin upgraded their rooms and common areas over the past couple of years. The quality of the girls is about the same now at Prime as it is at Tangara and Yankin. I'm interested in how others see it. There is a cute Carioca at Yankin who started in May who goes by the name Paty. I rate her performance as average but she is very pretty, completely natural, wears no makeup, and most notably she has no tattoos. She is a perfect example of a girl who would easily fit in at Scandallo if she adopted the Scandallo attire and makeup. At R170, a go with her cost not much more than what you pay for just a room at Scandallo.

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;3022594]Now Scandalo is a must visit at least once in your lifetime. The density of a 'gorgeous woman per square meter / foot' is probably the highest in the world. They are nice and friendly too while in Casarao I found many to be somewhat stand-offish.
[/QUOTE]Any of the girls in Scandallo speaks English? I speak Spanish, but 0 porto although they are basically the same. What's the percentage of girls in Scandallo that speaks English? Will I still have good experience from girls with 0 porto and only Google translate?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3022584]Here are some actual prices I paid in Reals. These were top shelf girls.

2025 - Scandallo 1000-1200. Casarao 600.[/QUOTE]How long did the girls stay with you with this price? Was it a one pop thing? If you do barfine the girl, will she stay with you all night? I know it varies from girl, but would like to hear your experience.

[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;3023294]Any of the girls in Scandallo speaks English?

[/QUOTE]Most I spoke to said that they speak a little. I speak good porto (and ok Spanish) so there was no reason for me to confirm.

[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;3023294]
I speak Spanish, but 0 porto although they are basically the same.
[/QUOTE]Oh bro, if you think this way you're up for a rude awakening lmao.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3022960]I've been to Scandallo, and used to concur with JimmyBoy -- go for the food using the entrance fee towards that with some friends after hitting the prives. But that was at an entrance of 300. These prices are ridiculous. You could easily get 2 or 3 prive / clinica sessions which is the sweet spot in Rio and SP.[/QUOTE]What are you getting though? You have been open enough to share your tastes. I'm not interesting in banging black women from favelas, which is exactly what you are getting at the rates you are suggesting.

Scandallo is at a premium because it can be, its easy to rack up 2000 to 3000 BRL a night there, and even then it does not feel like bad value given the experience is so good. Its about more than just going into a brothel, pointing at who you want to rail and going up into the sparse room upstairs to blow a load before you ring your taxi for a pickup.

Sometimes a man wants McDonalds, sometimes he wants a decent steak with a bottle of wine.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3019034]1) Keep in mind that Sept 5th weekend will be the NFL game and there will be a ton of girls all over SP but prices will be super high. Scandello will probably have 500+ girls every night during that weekend.
[/QUOTE]1) You cannot be serious with that number. I assume that's just a hyperbole. You mean 500+ only on that weekend, NOT earlier in that week or right after? Is it just this time ONLY because a NFL game actually plays in SP this year, OR is it just an opening week of the NFL season that happens every year? I guess I'm trying to see the correlation there. I'm kind of surprised that Brazilians even care about NFL since Brazil is a football (soccer) nation.

2) Let's say you stay at a place within 3 km from Scandallo. You can easily walk 35 to 45 minutes to get there in late afternoon. I know. Uber is cheap and convenient, but that's not my point. Say you have some times to kill on a cool day and feel like to do some exercises by walking to the club. Here are the big questions. Are the surrounding neighborhoods of Scandallo (and probably Bomboa) safe to walk around? Has anyone actually walked alone (for 30+ minutes) to any of these clubs? Did you feel safe? No problem at all? Nothing to worry about?

3) When you're mongering in SP by yourself, I'm curious where you guys normally go to eat. I know you can eat in the clubs, but you may not go there every single night. I guess I would probably go to any quick place that I can serve myself like a buffet restaurant or something. I would feel awkward to go to a fancy or high end restaurant sitting alone being served by a waiter. Where would you recommend go to eat? Any favorite spot / restaurant for solo traveler?

[QUOTE=MoneySign;3023413]1) You cannot be serious with that number. I assume that's just a hyperbole. You mean 500+ only on that weekend, NOT earlier in that week or right after? Is it just this time ONLY because a NFL game actually plays in SP this year, OR is it just an opening week of the NFL season that happens every year? I guess I'm trying to see the correlation there. I'm kind of surprised that Brazilians even care about NFL since Brazil is a football (soccer) nation.
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3) When you're mongering in SP by yourself, I'm curious where you guys normally go to eat. I know you can eat in the clubs, but you may not go there every single night. I guess I would probably go to any quick place that I can serve myself like a buffet restaurant or something. I would feel awkward to go to a fancy or high end restaurant sitting alone being served by a waiter. Where would you recommend go to eat? Any favorite spot / restaurant for solo traveler?[/QUOTE]1) Yes, very odd, why would Brazilians care about American football? Could it be the US teams like to bring their players and supporters to SP because of the sex to be had in SP? Sex is a taboo, and prostitution is a serious crime in the Land of Freedom & Liberty, so they won't tell you. It's the 2nd year in a row the NFL takes place in SP.

2) As a monger in SP I loved to eat in shopping mall food courts whenever I was alone. That's also where I liked to watch sexy local girls coming and going. I ate twice at Scandallo and found the food inferior to what I was getting at a good food court. Plus, I didn't much like the interaction with the Scandallo waiters, always had the impression they were fishing for tips. Even the chocolate cakes were average. To me, eating at Scandallo was wasting an opportunity to eat at a steakhouse (like Fogo de Chao) or at a nice food court. I never tasted the feijoada buffet though.

[QUOTE=MoneySign;3023413]1) I'm curious where you guys normally go to eat. I know you can eat in the clubs, but you may not go there every single night. I guess I would probably go to any quick place that I can serve myself like a buffet restaurant or something. I would feel awkward to go to a fancy or high end restaurant sitting alone being served by a waiter. Where would you recommend go to eat? [/QUOTE]The bakery / cafe usually have breakfast and lunch so that is where you can go. It would be easier for others to provide specific suggestion if you narrow down to an area.

I walk a lot, including centro at night. It's not too bad, you are always taking a risk walking anywhere.

[QUOTE=MoneySign;3023413]1) You cannot be serious with that number. I assume that's just a hyperbole. You mean 500+ only on that weekend, NOT earlier in that week or right after? Is it just this time ONLY because a NFL game actually plays in SP this year, OR is it just an opening week of the NFL season that happens every year? I guess I'm trying to see the correlation there. I'm kind of surprised that Brazilians even care about NFL since Brazil is a football (soccer) nation.

2) Let's say you stay at a place within 3 km from Scandallo. You can easily walk 35 to 45 minutes to get there in late afternoon. I know. Uber is cheap and convenient, but that's not my point. Say you have some times to kill on a cool day and feel like to do some exercises by walking to the club. Here are the big questions. Are the surrounding neighborhoods of Scandallo (and probably Bomboa) safe to walk around? Has anyone actually walked alone (for 30+ minutes) to any of these clubs? Did you feel safe? No problem at all? Nothing to worry about?

3) When you're mongering in SP by yourself, I'm curious where you guys normally go to eat. I know you can eat in the clubs, but you may not go there every single night. I guess I would probably go to any quick place that I can serve myself like a buffet restaurant or something. I would feel awkward to go to a fancy or high end restaurant sitting alone being served by a waiter. Where would you recommend go to eat? Any favorite spot / restaurant for solo traveler?[/QUOTE]1) I am probably being conservative on that number. For NFL weekend, it is going to be packed. Crazy packed. Probably the only time it would be crazier would be F1 week when Scandello opened on a Sunday to accommodate the visitors.

2) Why would you risk your belongings and safety for a cheap uber ride that might cost you less than $5? Probably better for you to get your walking done in a mall and then grab some lunch. I walk around my hotel during the day but it is in a pretty safe area. I usually take Ubers at night since I don't want to get all sweaty and worked up before heading to dinner or to a club.

3) I eat wherever the food looks good. Fuck what people think if I am by myself. I prefer to eat alone most of the time since I like to people watch. Sometime I will eat lunch with the girl from the night before and sometimes I might schedule a date for a nice dinner.

Good luck!!

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3022960]I've been to Scandallo, and used to concur with JimmyBoy -- go for the food using the entrance fee towards that with some friends after hitting the prives. But that was at an entrance of 300. These prices are ridiculous. You could easily get 2 or 3 prive / clinica sessions which is the sweet spot in Rio and SP.[/QUOTE]Come on Bengali! I love you-and-all but I'm telling you dude: none of the chicks that we saw in Paris cafe would make roster in Scandalo, and yes, that includes that cute black chick you grabbed in the garage on her way to work before I had a chance to even open my mouth with a fleeting thought 'shit!' indeed passing through my head.

Quality of women, let alone how they present themselves and how they approach us are incomparable between the two. I also don't see how there can be much overlap between clinicas and Scandalo. In clinicas they work more for less and in Scandalo they work less for more. + Scandalo fines them 400 brl if they don't give it 5 days a week. It's just economics. + Scandalo is fun for them too. Clinica is just a place of work.

P.S. Alright, considering few black chicks that I saw in Scandalo that black chick from Paris cafe might be able to make team. LOL It truly is a big if though.

[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;3023294]Any of the girls in Scandallo speaks English? I speak Spanish, but 0 porto although they are basically the same.

[/QUOTE]They are definitely not "basically the same. "

Many girls will speak a little bit of English. Combine that with Google Translate and you can get by.

I speak Spanish also. My experience is that if I speak Spanish, they understand me. But when they say more than a simple sentence in Portugues, I'm frequently lost. And I've been to Brasil dozens of times.

[QUOTE=Combo;3023501]They are definitely not "basically the same. "

Many girls will speak a little bit of English. Combine that with Google Translate and you can get by.

I speak Spanish also. My experience is that if I speak Spanish, they understand me. But when they say more than a simple sentence in Portugues, I'm frequently lost. And I've been to Brasil dozens of times.[/QUOTE]That's it. Spanish and Portuguese is a one way street: they'd know what you're be saying but you'd be lost most of the time in terms of trying to understand them. I speak decent Spanish but I speak pretty damn good Portuguese, something which sometimes could cause a problem with being understood in a Spanish-speaking country. At least until I get into the groove which usually takes a few days.

That being said you still shouldn't have that much problems in Scandalo. All ladies speak little English & understand Spanish + Google translate. You'd be alright. Also, usually there is at least one Colombiana on deck in Scandalo. Find her and you're golden.

Do you suggest I get there early? I was planning on going the Saturday night, after the game.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3023450]1) I am probably being conservative on that number. For NFL weekend, it is going to be packed. Crazy packed. Probably the only time it would be crazier would be F1 week when Scandello opened on a Sunday to accommodate the visitors.

Good luck!![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3023450]1) I am probably being conservative on that number. For NFL weekend, it is going to be packed. Crazy packed. Probably the only time it would be crazier would be F1 week when Scandello opened on a Sunday to accommodate the visitors. [/QUOTE]I was in SP couple of years back during F1 week and I heard Scandalo was packed. Heard, because on the advice of my favorite Scandallo girl, I avoided the club completely during the entire week except on Sunday the post event special opening night. She told me on Thursday night there was a long line to enter the club and an incredible 2 hour wait for a room. No thank you. Instead, I arranged for my 2 favorite boate girls to come over to my hotel (at no extra charge) and I visited Bomboa twice that week as well. Bomboa was crowded, but not "crazy packed" and the girls were asking their regular prices.

On Sunday night I went to Scan for their special after event night just to check it out. It was a dud. I never seen the place so empty and most of the girls that were there were not of usual Scan quality. Luckily, I ran into a lone familiar face that night and we had a fun session. By Monday / Tuesday night everything had returned to normal and most if not all the F1 fans had gone home.

[QUOTE=GreatEraIm;3023519]Do you suggest I get there early? I was planning on going the Saturday night, after the game.[/QUOTE]I don't know what time the game ends but it will definitely get more packed as the night goes on. I was there last year and we watched the game at Scandello. It was pretty slow before and during the game, but after the game it got super packed. Wall to wall people and thankfully we had our table reserved so we didn't have to deal with standing next to everyone.

Do write a report about your experience.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3023651]I don't know what time the game ends but it will definitely get more packed as the night goes on. I was there last year and we watched the game at Scandello. It was pretty slow before and during the game, but after the game it got super packed. Wall to wall people and thankfully we had our table reserved so we didn't have to deal with standing next to everyone.

Do write a report about your experience.[/QUOTE]It was fvcking packed deep with new garotas from all of brasil. I had a table & couch near the DJ booth to see the entire room from above. I think they did a whole NFL week not just the single night. Easy to check on their insta page. During NFL week and F1 there is sometimes a wait for rooms. They will open the 2nd floor bar across from the cashiers for drinks and additional seating.

Reminded me of the wait at Casarao on busy night. Last year bros packed the place but garotas were there in force. Instagram models, rio models, hoping to score big with their english. To find a "baller" . I watched the game on scandallos big screen. After the game I bailed with my dates to a less crowded less expensive place lush motel kkkk.

The garotas from day shift working nights were asking and getting 2 mil brl & 2. 5 mil brl a session. Sheetzz that's all the garota scandallo gossip network is talking about. Their pretty sexy eyes, lighting up at the prospect of 3 mil and 3. 5 mill baller session for an hour.

[QUOTE=MikeKelimir;2990810]I went back 20 pages reading all the posts and tried to make a consolidated reference doc. I will be in SP for about 7 days and have zero experience there (though I have 15 ish in FKK, CR, DR, MDE, and other latic countries). No clue why I have never been to Brazil yet, but I'm going to set up a week long trip.

To be clear, thanks to everyone else do did all the hard work here, I just worked to consolidate it for trip. At any rate, can anyone gut check this and tell me if my numbers / lists look right?

A few points I was unclear on was the pricing in the clinicas and whether my numbers are "all-in" or if there are 2 separate fees in some cases (like the clinica, you pay the girl and then the location, which means the all in is higher).

Also, I do understand there seems to be a trade-off between spots close to the clinicas (having noise and lower prices) vs more expensive hotels that are quieter. I am a light sleeper, but I also am not a fan of spending 45 minutes in a taxi to visit a massage place.

My ideal trip is maybe 1 massage place per day and then 3-5 nights to experience each of the night clubs in the list:

[B]So Paulo[/B]

# 1. Accommodation.

# Hotels.

- [B]Bourbon So Paulo Ibirapuera Convention Hotel / Wyndham So Paulo Ibirapuera Convention Plaza Hotel[/B]:

- Location: Moema district, near Ibirapuera Shopping Mall and Congonhas Airport (CGH).

- Rooms: 600-672 soundproof rooms with free WiFi, air conditioning, cable TV, electronic safe, and mini-bar.

- Amenities: Indoor swimming pool, fitness center, steam room, sauna, business center, 16 event venues.

- Dining: Multiple options including Fenix Bar, Ipe lobby bar, and Igueira restaurant.

- Price Range: From are $265 (USD $48) per night.

- Additional Features: 24-hour front desk, room service, parking (self and valet), express check-in / out.

- [B]DoubleTree by Hilton So Paulo Itaim[/B]:

- Location: Itaim Bibi, known for its vibrant dining scene.

- Rooms: Spacious and modern, some may feel cramped.

- Features: Excellent breakfast service, quiet environment.

- Internet: Requires frequent re-registration.

- Price Range: are $425-are $640 (USD $77-USD $116) per night.

- [B]Mercure So Paulo Alamedas[/B]:

- Location: Near Avenida Paulista.

- Issues: Construction noise reported, weak WiFi signal.

- Price Range: are $500-are $750 (USD $91-USD $136) per night.

- [B]Grand Mercure So Paulo Itaim[/B]:

- Location: Itaim Bibi.

- Issues: Severe construction noise reported, weak WiFi signal.

- Price Range: are $500-are $750 (USD $91-USD $136) per night.

# Condo Hotel.

- [B]Allure Moema[/B]:

- Address: Av. Dos Imars, 508, Moema.

- Features: Modern studio apartments, double-paned glass, modern appliances.

- Price: are $300 (USD $55) per night.

- Proximity: 4-minute walk to clinics like Prime, Miruna, and Abbobhrs; 7-minute Uber to Congonhas Airport (CGH).

- Amenities: Beach tennis court, party hall, swimming pool, gym, 24-hour bilingual reception.

# Airbnb.

- Price Range: are $150-are $225 (USD $27-USD $41) per night for studios.

- Tip: Email hosts to confirm soundproofing features.

# 2. Entertainment & Activities.

# Nightlife & Bars (Boates).

- [B]Scandallo Lounge[/B]:

- Address:

- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/A659oQmcR3u3K6G57[/URL].

- Hours: Open daily from noon to early morning (Monday 12 pm-4 am, Tuesday-Friday 12 pm-5 am, Saturday 12 pm-4 am).

- Entry Fee: are $200 (USD $36) for men (includes are $100 for drinks), are $50 (USD $9) for women.

- Session Fee: are $900-1000 (USD $164-USD $182) for 1 hour.

- Best Days: Tuesday to Thursday.

- Tips: Arrive before 7 PM to avoid cover charge, dress to impress.

- [B]Casaro Augusta[/B]:

- Address:

- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/eZ2fKzXcH3Q6Wog17[/URL].

- Hours: Opens and closes late, good every day except Sunday and Monday.

- Entry Fee: are $10 (USD $1. 80), includes two drinks.

- Drink Prices: are $15 (USD $2. 70) for you, are $30-are $50 (USD $5. 45-USD $9. 10) for companions.

- Pricing: are $425 (USD $77) for 1 hour, are $300-are $400 (USD $55-USD $73) for 30 minutes, often negotiable to are $300 (USD $55).

- [B]57 House Friends Club[/B]:

- Address:

- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/2H27zcsvHGnJW9KCA[/URL].

- Hours: Open from 12 PM to late evening.

- Entry: No entrance fee reported during an early Friday visit.

- Talent: Around 9 girls present at 6 PM, mostly 22-29 years old, some up to 35.

- Pricing: are $250-330 (USD $45-USD $60) for 1 hour, are $240 (USD $44) for half an hour before 8 PM (rooms included).

# 3. Massage Locations (Clinicas).

# High-End Options.

- [B]Sharon Premium[/B]:

- Easy website booking via WhatsApp.

- Opens early (around 10 AM or 11 AM).

- [B]Baronesas[/B]:

- Website available, WhatsApp booking.

- Early opening hours (around 10 AM or 11 AM).

- [B]Taj Mahal[/B]:

- Website browsing and WhatsApp booking available.

- [B]Lotus Lounge[/B]:

- Online presence with easy booking process.

- [B]The Palms[/B]:

- Limited online information.

- Visit in person when they open (around 12 PM).

- Pricing: are $700-are $800 (USD $127-USD $145) for session, additional are $400 (USD $73) to the girl.

- [B]Oro[/B]:

- Minimal online presence.

- Visit at opening time (around 12 PM).

# Mid-Tier Options.

- [B]Anavrin[/B]:

- Price similar to Prime.

- Excellent website with easy advance booking.

- Opens at 9 AM on Saturdays.

- Classic wood floor apartment vibe.

- [B]Prime Massagem[/B]:

- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/itbPvuvg259GT4rg9[/URL].

- [B]Miruna[/B]:

- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/4sxBrVP621ShFyf68[/URL] (Not Maruna).

- [B]Abbbora[/B]:

- Link to location: [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/n55rLKJLTS7ZCm7cA[/URL].

- [B]Tangara[/B].

# 4. Transportation.

- Metro: are $4. 40 (USD $0. 80) per ride, not 24/7.

- Uber: Recommended for nightlife venues.

# 5. Safety & Tips.

- Be cautious of pickpockets in public transport and areas like Rua Augusta.

- Use ATMs inside banks to avoid skimming fraud.

- WhatsApp is commonly used for bookings at massage spots and private clubs.

- Tipping (optional):

- Bartenders / Waiters: are $5 (USD $0. 90) to are $20 (USD $3. 65).

- Hotel Staff: are $10 (USD $1. 80) to are $20 (USD $3. 65).[/QUOTE]Thought I would repost this useful information.

Here is a list of SP massage clinics ranked by frequency of recommendations (in parentheses). There are noticeable absences (Lotus lounge, Palms, Sharon Premium, Oro, Taj Mahal). All have telephone numbers, most have websites and Whatsapp numbers. Some publish girl photos on their website, most have Whatsapp photo updates. Whatsapp is essential for easy clinic contact.

1. Clinica Brooklin. Av. Professor Vicente Ra, 1656 (33351).

2. Clinica Enjoy Spa. Are. Condessa do Pinhal, 279, Campo Belo (18737).

3. Clinica Kin Center. Tv. Libera Rivelino, 210, Brooklin Novo (16480).

4. Clinica Indy Massagens. Av. Indianpolis, 2201 - Planalto Paulista (12989).

5. Clinica do Patro. Rua Miranda Guerra, 1052 - Brooklin Novo (12601).

6. Clinica Pyramide. Are. Chamant, 372 Moca (9592).

7. Clinica Maytreia. Rua Bacenas, 125 Moca (9138).

8. Clinica 268- Av Bosque the Sade, 268 - Praa the Arvore (8336).

9. Clinica Kahunas. Are. Bartolomeu de Gusmo, 147, Vila Mariana (7562).

10. Clinica Nova Ceci. Av. Ceci, 2189, Planalto Paulista (7331).

11. Clinica Tangar. Rua Tangar, 200 - Vila Mariana (7262).

12.57 House Friend's Club-Alameda dos Aicas, 1293 Moema (7026).

13. Clinica SPA Moah. Av. Moaci ,885 Moema (5335).

14. Clinica Shangri-l. Av. Pompia, 1062 Pompia (5230).

15. Clinica Red Massagem. Av. Moema, 841 Moema (5082).

16. Clinica Cancioneiro. Are. Novo Cancioneiro, 88 Brooklin (4385).

17. Clinica Moema Prime. Av. Ira, 511 (4849).

18. Clinica Miruna. Av. Miruna 644, Moema (3989).

19. Kellys Massagens. Are Serra de Jureia 442 Tatuape (3679).

20. Clinica Chanel-A. Ceci, 2236- Planalto Paulista (3185).

21.101 Espao Morumbi. Rua Chafic Maluf 101 (3132).

22. Clinica Cherry. Are. Pascal 2019 - Campo Belo (2891).

23. Clinica Fennix. Are. Maria Fagnani, 47 - So Judas (2885).

24. Clinica ReservaLux. Are. Loefgreen, 1438 - V. Clementino (2488).

25. Clinica Allure. Are. Jos Oscar Abreu Sampaio, 411 Tatuap (2516).

26. Clinica Yankin. Rua Dr. Jos de Queirz Aranha, 148 - Ana Rosa (1786).

27. Clinica Vani's Way. Rua Dom Antonio Galvo, 266 (1733).

28. Espao Absolut. Rua Carlos Meira, 92, Penha (1674).

29. Advance Vip. Are. Professor Santiago Dantas, 62 Morumbi (1673).

30. Clinica Olimpo Massagens. Rua So Serafim, 493 - Penha de Frana. Zona Leste (1650).

31. Clinica Tkio. Are. Caramuru, 704 Sade (1462).

32. Clinica Aneesh. Are. Tavares Bastos, 547 Pompia (1373).

33. Clinica Anavrin Massagens- Rua Batataes 197, Jardins (1309).

34. Spa Azumi massagens. Rua coronel otaviano the Silveira 235 Vl Sonia (1242).

35. Clinica Abbbora. Alameda dos Guaramomis, 1275 Moema (1032).

36. Clinica Espao Maituna. Are. Conselheiro Saraiva, 628, Santana (968).

37. Espao Diamante Rua Diamante Preto 292 - Vila Carro (933).

38. Clinica La Vie SPA Tantrica. Rua Lus Gis, 820 Mirandpolis (798).

When you say "frequency of recommendations" are you referring to this web site, some other web site, or something else?

[QUOTE=Ak233;3024022]Here is a list of SP massage clinics ranked by frequency of recommendations (in parentheses). There are noticeable absences (Lotus lounge, Palms, Sharon Premium, Oro, Taj Mahal). All have telephone numbers, most have websites and Whatsapp numbers. Some publish girl photos on their website, most have Whatsapp photo updates. Whatsapp is essential for easy clinic contact.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3024024]When you say "frequency of recommendations" are you referring to this web site, some other web site, or something else?[/QUOTE]Gp guia. Maybe more accurate to say activity of comments surrounding clinic. Clinica Brooklin currently has 2477 pages with 37145 comments. Please feel free to correct me as I am doing research.

I'm interested in Abbobora, Lotus, Oro and the palms. Are these clinicas FS or just HJ massage?

[QUOTE=Ak233;3024019]Thought I would repost this useful information.[/QUOTE]No need to repost, it's already present in the posts of distinction tab.

Ok, that makes sense. GPguia is straightforward and reliable. When I look over the list I'm surprised at how many of those places I've visited. The reason I asked is because guys could misinterpret the ranking to be about positive vs negative reviews. It's a review quantity ranking and I think that is largely a measure of popularity. It's an interesting list. Like all venues anywhere in the world, the experience is going to vary from day to day and depending on which girls are available at a given point in time.

[QUOTE=Ak233;3024030]Gp guia. Maybe more accurate to say activity of comments surrounding clinic. Clinica Brooklin currently has 2477 pages with 37145 comments. Please feel free to correct me as I am doing research.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3024042] I think that is largely a measure of popularity. It's an interesting list.[/QUOTE]That's about it. The ranking is highly inaccurate and the data is biased due to promotion. Enjoy can't be higher than Prime or Miruna. Yankin can't be lower than Prime because it has the advantages of location, quantity, and price.

What is the best way of finding MILFs (40+)? I didn't see a lot at my last visit to Cafe Photo.

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3024038]I'm interested in Abbobora, Lotus, Oro and the palms. Are these clinicas FS or just HJ massage?

No need to repost, it's already present in the posts of distinction tab.[/QUOTE]They are all full service. You have to ask for a message. This is Brazil.

[QUOTE=Abdshakir;3024162]What is the best way of finding MILFs (40+)? I didn't see a lot at my last visit to Cafe Photo.[/QUOTE]You want to pay for them?

Is there a way online to see what the scandallo girls look like?

[QUOTE=Turgid;3021652]After reading your superlative report of Scandallo I was surprised to read this. As a city in itself Rio is definitely better than SP, as a matter of fact it is one of the best, if not the best, in the world. Generally girl's service in Brazil is top notch but as my visit earlier this year reminded me the service in Rio is better than SP. As far as the looks of the ladies is concerned I give SP the edge over Rio but if you factor in the online babes Rio is close. Overall I agree that Rio is the better option over SP.[/QUOTE]I went to both cities a year ago and I liked Rio better because of the beach atmosphere. I did not see more spinner in those cities that what I would find in Honk kong (Tijuana) or parque lleras.

How does it compare?

[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;3024395]Is there a way online to see what the scandallo girls look like?[/QUOTE]Conan himself would trust the beauty of these women. This you can trust.

I do not know a way to see the hotness of these girls from online. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Abdshakir;3024162]What is the best way of finding MILFs (40+)? I didn't see a lot at my last visit to Cafe Photo.[/QUOTE]Goto Bahamas club in Moema or 57 friends. They always have a older matures experiences and ready for action. Or next door in the swingy club, go to any shopping mall, kkk.

Up the game to do a mother daughter combo. I did that last year in Rio on mothers day in panda motel. The mother used to work at a prive in centro, the daughter still does. When she invited to meet her mother's sister for three way I bailed out on that crazy fvcking family of women.

I can't think of a clinica I've ever visited where there were not at least 3 or 4 MILFs in the lineup.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3024414]Goto Bahamas club in Moema or 57 friends. They always have a older matures experiences and ready for action. Or next door in the swingy club, go to any shopping mall, kkk.

Up the game to do a mother daughter combo. I did that last year in Rio on mothers day in panda motel. The mother used to work at a prive in centro, the daughter still does. When she invited to meet her mother's sister for three way I bailed out on that crazy fvcking family of women.[/QUOTE]

Seeing the girls in advance kills the mystique and makes them seem like garotas de programa.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3024412]Conan himself would trust the beauty of these women. This you can trust.

I do not know a way to see the hotness of these girls from online. Good luck.[/QUOTE]

I am in Casarao right now. If you are saying scandallo tops what I'm seeing right now. Holy shit!

I'll let you know the prices when I talk to one of the ladies here.

[QUOTE=Ak233;3024022]Here is a list of SP massage clinics ranked by frequency of recommendations (in parentheses). There are noticeable absences (Lotus lounge, Palms, Sharon Premium, Oro, Taj Mahal). All have telephone numbers, most have websites and Whatsapp numbers. Some publish girl photos on their website, most have Whatsapp photo updates. Whatsapp is essential for easy clinic contact.

1. Clinica Brooklin. Av. Professor Vicente Ra, 1656 (33351).

2. Clinica Enjoy Spa. Are. Condessa do Pinhal, 279, Campo Belo (18737).

3. Clinica Kin Center. Tv. Libera Rivelino, 210, Brooklin Novo (16480).

4. Clinica Indy Massagens. Av. Indianpolis, 2201 - Planalto Paulista (12989).

5. Clinica do Patro. Rua Miranda Guerra, 1052 - Brooklin Novo (12601).

6. Clinica Pyramide. Are. Chamant, 372 Moca (9592).

7. Clinica Maytreia. Rua Bacenas, 125 Moca (9138).

8. Clinica 268- Av Bosque the Sade, 268 - Praa the Arvore (8336).

9. Clinica Kahunas. Are. Bartolomeu de Gusmo, 147, Vila Mariana (7562).

10. Clinica Nova Ceci. Av. Ceci, 2189, Planalto Paulista (7331).

11. Clinica Tangar. Rua Tangar, 200 - Vila Mariana (7262).

12.57 House Friend's Club-Alameda dos Aicas, 1293 Moema (7026).

13. Clinica SPA Moah. Av. Moaci ,885 Moema (5335).

14. Clinica Shangri-l. Av. Pompia, 1062 Pompia (5230).

15. Clinica Red Massagem. Av. Moema, 841 Moema (5082).

16. Clinica Cancioneiro. Are. Novo Cancioneiro, 88 Brooklin (4385).

17. Clinica Moema Prime. Av. Ira, 511 (4849).

18. Clinica Miruna. Av. Miruna 644, Moema (3989).

19. Kellys Massagens. Are Serra de Jureia 442 Tatuape (3679).

20. Clinica Chanel-A. Ceci, 2236- Planalto Paulista (3185).

21.101 Espao Morumbi. Rua Chafic Maluf 101 (3132).

22. Clinica Cherry. Are. Pascal 2019 - Campo Belo (2891).

23. Clinica Fennix. Are. Maria Fagnani, 47 - So Judas (2885).

24. Clinica ReservaLux. Are. Loefgreen, 1438 - V. Clementino (2488).

25. Clinica Allure. Are. Jos Oscar Abreu Sampaio, 411 Tatuap (2516).

26. Clinica Yankin. Rua Dr. Jos de Queirz Aranha, 148 - Ana Rosa (1786).

27. Clinica Vani's Way. Rua Dom Antonio Galvo, 266 (1733).

28. Espao Absolut. Rua Carlos Meira, 92, Penha (1674).

29. Advance Vip. Are. Professor Santiago Dantas, 62 Morumbi (1673).

30. Clinica Olimpo Massagens. Rua So Serafim, 493 - Penha de Frana. Zona Leste (1650).

31. Clinica Tkio. Are. Caramuru, 704 Sade (1462).

32. Clinica Aneesh. Are. Tavares Bastos, 547 Pompia (1373).

33. Clinica Anavrin Massagens- Rua Batataes 197, Jardins (1309).

34. Spa Azumi massagens. Rua coronel otaviano the Silveira 235 Vl Sonia (1242).

35. Clinica Abbbora. Alameda dos Guaramomis, 1275 Moema (1032).

36. Clinica Espao Maituna. Are. Conselheiro Saraiva, 628, Santana (968).

37. Espao Diamante Rua Diamante Preto 292 - Vila Carro (933).

38. Clinica La Vie SPA Tantrica. Rua Lus Gis, 820 Mirandpolis (798).[/QUOTE]A problem with that list is that most of the Moema clinicas had their threads removed a few years back. Once they were added back, all previous posts were gone so they started from scratch.

[QUOTE=GreatEraIm;3024592]I am in Casarao right now. If you are saying scandallo tops what I'm seeing right now. Holy shit!

I'll let you know the prices when I talk to one of the ladies here.[/QUOTE]Definitely keeps us posted about your experience for both Casarao and Scandallo. Information about prices and girls will be appreciated.

[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;3024624]Definitely keeps us posted about your experience for both Casarao and Scandallo. Information about prices and girls will be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Casarao the rates were around $R500-700 total that's with using the hotel next door. To take the girls out to your hotel, it is an additional $400.

The club was really cool. I don't have any complaints about it. The downstairs area was were I spent most of the time. I enjoyed it a lot and the prices were very reasonable.

Hey guys, I'm new here and I've been going through some of the posts about SP. I've already been to the city a couple of times and checked out places like Scandallo and Vitrini (which is basically a nightclub), but this time I'm looking for something a bit different.

I've seen on social media like Instagram and in the Analia Franco area there are a few Funk clubs that seem to attract local celebrities. The vibe and the type of girls who go there are totally my thing, so I get the feeling it's a good spot to find freelancers. Some of the more popular places around there are Boss Bar, Regente Club, TBT Lounge. Just wondering if anyone here has been to any of them?

[QUOTE=GreatEraIm;3024661]Casarao the rates were around $R500-700 total that's with using the hotel next door. To take the girls out to your hotel, it is an additional $400.

The club was really cool. I don't have any complaints about it. The downstairs area was were I spent most of the time. I enjoyed it a lot and the prices were very reasonable.[/QUOTE]Takeout fee is $R150 (as of Aug 31,2025) not $R400. Girl may charge you more to go to one's hotels room, but the fee club charges for takeout is still $R150.

The prices you have quoted for an hour inhouse is typical these days. You still can find girls charge less than that and some charge more.

[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;3024395]Is there a way online to see what the scandallo girls look like?[/QUOTE]Not possible just like you can't see the girls that work in Tijuana clubs.

You can check out the quality of the talent Scandallo attracts for an entry fee of $R400 ($75 aprox).

[QUOTE=MickLasense;3024725]Hey guys, I'm new here and I've been going through some of the posts about SP. I've already been to the city a couple of times and checked out places like Scandallo and Vitrini (which is basically a nightclub), but this time I'm looking for something a bit different.

I've seen on social media like Instagram and in the Analia Franco area there are a few Funk clubs that seem to attract local celebrities. The vibe and the type of girls who go there are totally my thing, so I get the feeling it's a good spot to find freelancers. Some of the more popular places around there are Boss Bar, Regente Club, TBT Lounge. Just wondering if anyone here has been to any of them?[/QUOTE]Damn! I missed out on this as I was in SP a week ago. Are these good places to get a fix of "Goodnight Cinderella"?

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3024744]Takeout fee is $R150 (as of Aug 31,2025) not $R400. Girl may charge you more to go to one's hotels room, but the fee club charges for takeout is still $R150.

The prices you have quoted for an hour inhouse is typical these days. You still can find girls charge less than that and some charge more.[/QUOTE]OK. We were speaking through Google translate so some things got lost in translation. Thanks for the clear up.

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;3024594]A problem with that list is that most of the Moema clinicas had their threads removed a few years back. Once they were added back, all previous posts were gone so they started from scratch.[/QUOTE]Also some establishments have been banned for unknown reasons on gpguia. Scandallo is the prime example. Also establishments or girls can request that their thread be removed and the site will honor it. Some clinicas have discounts for posting a review, so that also skew heavily the entry numbers. Threads are listed by the most recent entries and that's how I use it. Look through the first couple of pages. If there hasn't been a report in the last few months, probably not worth checking out for the occasional visitor to SP.

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;3024760]Also some establishments have been banned for unknown reasons on gpguia. Scandallo is the prime example. Also establishments or girls can request that their thread be removed and the site will honor it. Some clinicas have discounts for posting a review, so that also skew heavily the entry numbers. Threads are listed by the most recent entries and that's how I use it. Look through the first couple of pages. If there hasn't been a report in the last few months, probably not worth checking out for the occasional visitor to SP.[/QUOTE]That is good advise. The receptionists in different Moema clinicas definitely read the reports and respond when mofos have a problem. I remember one about the garotas did NOT want to kiss the guy because he had a body odor and stank up the place kkkk. The receptionist will ask for your 'nicky' to verify forista discount. Sometimes they post up a message no forista discounts without a recent report in the last 30 days. Its a good source on your favorite Clinica garota in detail. Or to find a review about a photoacompanhantes garota before booking. The forista discounts for threesomes is a fvcking good deal. Yup can't even use the word Scandallo even in the private message.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3024744]Takeout fee is $R150 (as of Aug 31,2025) not $R400. Girl may charge you more to go to one's hotels room, but the fee club charges for takeout is still $R150.

The prices you have quoted for an hour inhouse is typical these days. You still can find girls charge less than that and some charge more.[/QUOTE]True, prices are whatever the garota can get out of you above the rack rate. Last night at casarao took a 22 year old blonde loira branca and a 21 year old exotic looking Morena for $350 brl each for 40 minutes. The next door hotel rooms suck, and there is a wait on busy nights. For comparison clinicas in Moema area will offer a forista discount of 300 brl for two 2 garotas, for one hour.

I have a few days to travel next week and am wondering whether I should spend it in Colombia (Medellin) or Brazil (SP vs Rio)? I've been to Rio earlier this year and really enjoyed it. Would love to come back but wondering if its worth an extra 7 hours on the plane as compared to Colombia. Would you guys have recommendations?

[QUOTE=Tochka;3024807]The next door hotel rooms suck, and there is a wait on busy nights.[/QUOTE]My next time at Casarao, I think I'll just take my pick back to my hotel room. I know that will drive the price up some, but I also know I will enjoy the overall experience much better. The hotel room I had next door last time met minimum standards, but barely!

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;3024760]Also some establishments have been banned for unknown reasons on gpguia. Scandallo is the prime example. Also establishments or girls can request that their thread be removed and the site will honor it. Some clinicas have discounts for posting a review, so that also skew heavily the entry numbers. Threads are listed by the most recent entries and that's how I use it. Look through the first couple of pages. If there hasn't been a report in the last few months, probably not worth checking out for the occasional visitor to SP.[/QUOTE]The club does not want to be on the site. When the Moema clinicas were taken off, it was at the owner's request. The clinicas can still have privilege to check past reviews despite not listed. I experienced it first hand. These establishments are owned by the same owner or the same group of owners.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3024807]True, prices are whatever the garota can get out of you above the rack rate. Last night at casarao took a 22 year old blonde loira branca and a 21 year old exotic looking Morena for $350 brl each for 40 minutes. The next door hotel rooms suck, and there is a wait on busy nights. For comparison clinicas in Moema area will offer a forista discount of 300 brl for two 2 garotas, for one hour.[/QUOTE]Check your PMs.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3024813]My next time at Casarao, I think I'll just take my pick back to my hotel room. I know that will drive the price up some, but I also know I will enjoy the overall experience much better. The hotel room I had next door last time met minimum standards, but barely![/QUOTE]The best largest room at the casarao hotel is room 2. IMHO. Its the door next to the reception desk with all the garotas purses. Looks like a bathroom door kkkkk. It has stairs up to the room. Comfortable for threesomes. Unfortunately got to give the slick ass skinny dude a small tip to get that room, otherwise he assign bros to the far away shitty rooms. The other low numbers 1-10 have a stripper pole in some rooms. The high number rooms greater than 11 to 29 sucks raw eggs -in my drunken opinion.

My flow is different, for Casarao take out, I take the garotas to andar de Cima, colonial, secrets, jabaquara motel to have a pool party, smoke marola, order food.

Sometimes on very busy nights casaro has more fvcking guys in the house than garotas, 🤷127997;8205;9794;65039;.

I will be visiting Sao Paulo September 15th for a week. W would love to connect with some members to meet at Scandallo or a day tour of the fine establishments in the city. Send me a message if you are in town.

Georges P.

[QUOTE=Georgest;3024991]I will be visiting Sao Paulo September 15th for a week. W would love to connect with some members to meet at Scandallo or a day tour of the fine establishments in the city. Send me a message if you are in town.

Georges P.[/QUOTE]Going to miss you by a couple weeks. But same offer applies. Week Sept 29 if anyone want to hang out let me know. Scandallo and Casarao and the like. I don't do the clinicas. Hmu on Message.

[QUOTE=Georgest;3024991]I will be visiting Sao Paulo September 15th for a week. W would love to connect with some members to meet at Scandallo or a day tour of the fine establishments in the city. Send me a message if you are in town.

Georges P.[/QUOTE]Please feel free to refer to, and post in, the 'Travel Announcements (Only)' thread. It helps avoid clutter.

Hello All!!

I have read a lot and learned a lot for my visit to saopaulo in 4 days, I still have some questions I'the like to ask you if you could please help me:

1. - I will be staying at wyndham sao paulo berrini. Gaugin Club is just one block away, walking all the way on berrini, so my question here is: will it be safe to WALK from my hotel and back at night? Its just one block but is better to be safe, what do you think? It seems like a nice area.

2. - for what I've read my best option for a budget visit is visit scandallo to see quality but I won't pay any girl since its too expensive, therefore I believe my best bet will be going to "massage clinicS", so far I thing 57, moema prime, do patrao, miruna and abbobara will be the ones visiting. Of course take an uber.

Would you recommend any other?

PM me if you are in town from Sept. 10 to 15th.

THanks a lot to all the fellow mongers and the kind sharing of information.

[QUOTE=MexiMonger;3025074]Hello All!! I have read a lot and learned a lot for my visit to saopaulo in 4 days, I still have some questions I'the like to ask you if you could please help me:

1. - I will be staying at wyndham sao paulo berrini. Gaugin Club is just one block away, walking all the way on berrini, so my question here is: will it be safe to WALK from my hotel and back at night? Its just one block but is better to be safe, what do you think? It seems like a nice area.

2. - for what I've read my best option for a budget visit is visit scandallo to see quality but I won't pay any girl since its too expensive, therefore I believe my best bet will be going to "massage clinicS", so far I thing 57, moema prime, do patrao, miruna and abbobara will be the ones visiting. Of course take an uber. Would you recommend any other? .....[/QUOTE]1- Yes, that area is quite safe at night and has many Western hotels. There is an OKKO convenience store and also a small supermarket close to there. the Terrazza Rooftop Bar is quite nice if you have a date. For Gaugin I highly recommend doing onsite. I've have issues half the time when I bring them back (I. E. Change price). If you go before a certain time, 7 pm I believe, it's a bit cheaper.

2 - I like the ones that you mentioned as I prefer 'mid range. ' There are lower range ones like Yankin and higher range ones like Lotus Lounge. Again, my preference is the same as yours, so I'd personally stick with those (best balance of talent, price, and comfortable rooms). Also, Moema is very safe and you can walk between many of the clinicas (short to medium walking distance).

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3025080]1- Yes, that area is quite safe at night and has many Western hotels. There is an OKKO convenience store and also a small supermarket close to there. the Terrazza Rooftop Bar is quite nice if you have a date. For Gaugin I highly recommend doing onsite. I've have issues half the time when I bring them back (I. E. Change price). If you go before a certain time, 7 pm I believe, it's a bit cheaper. [/QUOTE]I concur. I have stayed at the Hilton, the Sheraton, and the Gran Estanplaza Berrini in the Naes Unidas neighborhood and I can't see there being a problem walking around the block from Gaugin to the Wyndham Berrini late at night. Just don't dawdle and keep your eyes open that's all.

My favorite hotel in the proximate neighborhood is the Grand Hyatt but late at night I would take an Uber from Gaugin because the Hyatt is too far away to hoof it after a few drinks and a night's worth of entertainment IMHO.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3025080]1- Yes, that area is quite safe at night and has many Western hotels. There is an OKKO convenience store and also a small supermarket close to there. the Terrazza Rooftop Bar is quite nice if you have a date. For Gaugin I highly recommend doing onsite. I've have issues half the time when I bring them back (I. E. Change price). If you go before a certain time, 7 pm I believe, it's a bit cheaper.

2 - I like the ones that you mentioned as I prefer 'mid range. ' There are lower range ones like Yankin and higher range ones like Lotus Lounge. Again, my preference is the same as yours, so I'd personally stick with those (best balance of talent, price, and comfortable rooms). Also, Moema is very safe and you can walk between many of the clinicas (short to medium walking distance).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3025164]I concur. I have stayed at the Hilton, the Sheraton, and the Gran Estanplaza Berrini in the Naes Unidas neighborhood and I can't see there being a problem walking around the block from Gaugin to the Wyndham Berrini late at night. Just don't dawdle and keep your eyes open that's all.

My favorite hotel in the proximate neighborhood is the Grand Hyatt but late at night I would take an Uber from Gaugin because the Hyatt is too far away to hoof it after a few drinks and a night's worth of entertainment IMHO.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much.

Is LOTUS worth it? Maybe I could go and see what's going on.

The GP guia I have already suscribed to see if I get discount.

[QUOTE=MexiMonger;3025221]Thank you very much.

Is LOTUS worth it? Maybe I could go and see what's going on.

The GP guia I have already suscribed to see if I get discount.[/QUOTE]I won't go to Lotus to just see what's going on because you will only see the bar and some nice cars parked out front. You pick the girl from the tablet. You have to pay for the session once you talk to the girl. I like Palms the best. The owner is helpful, the facility is very good and consistent and it lets you talk to 2 girls. I also like Shannon because it lets you talk to 3 girls in person.

You won't get discount by subscribing. Only a few clinicas offer discount after you write the review.

[QUOTE=Nounce;3025361]I won't go to Lotus to just see what's going on because you will only see the bar and some nice cars parked out front. You pick the girl from the tablet. You have to pay for the session once you talk to the girl. I like Palms the best. The owner is helpful, the facility is very good and consistent and it lets you talk to 2 girls. I also like Shannon because it lets you talk to 3 girls in person.

You won't get discount by subscribing. Only a few clinicas offer discount after you write the review.[/QUOTE]I had a quality session at the Palms, but the shower was ice cold! Lucky I already had a good one before I departed my hotel to fuck.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3024847]The best largest room at the casarao hotel is room 2. IMHO. Its the door next to the reception desk with all the garotas purses. Looks like a bathroom door kkkkk. It has stairs up to the room. Comfortable for threesomes. Unfortunately got to give the slick ass skinny dude a small tip to get that room, otherwise he assign bros to the far away shitty rooms. The other low numbers 1-10 have a stripper pole in some rooms. The high number rooms greater than 11 to 29 sucks raw eggs -in my drunken opinion.

My flow is different, for Casarao take out, I take the garotas to andar de Cima, colonial, secrets, jabaquara motel to have a pool party, smoke marola, order food.

Sometimes on very busy nights casaro has more fvcking guys in the house than garotas, 🤷127997;8205;9794;65039;.[/QUOTE]Let's meet up Wednesday at Scandello. Check your DMs.

I had a fantastic experience in both Sao Paolo and Rio in 2024. However, I have always wanted to experience Colombia, but am afraid after reading up on the dangers. I have a stop in Bueno Saires and Bogota, but 14 days of free time in between. Would you who know Latin America advise me to immediately repeat Brazil or explore new areas in Colombia? I can't figure out where in Colombia it is best. I don't like to be afraid, but I'm not a complete wimp and I'm used to traveling. Since I have to go to Bogota for a few days and could stay there longer if I feel like it, would you drop Medellin, Cali, Cartagena? I'm looking for young spinners and don't spend money on older ladies I could get "for free" in Europe. I hope you with experience will give me some good advice. I know tastes are different, but I'm trying to make a plan. I haven't been to Bueno Saires in 10 years and I see from the reports that there have been big changes. In Brazil I always found something I liked every night. And unfortunately I am picky so the hunt is a challenge in places in the world where the really hot ladies are far apart. I have been to Tijuana and although anyone with money will succeed there, it is still the best I have experienced and I have never seen so many sexy girls gathered in one place. My experience in Mexico City was a letdown in comparison. Thanks for any good suggestions.

[QUOTE=DonTony11;3024810]I have a few days to travel next week and am wondering whether I should spend it in Colombia (Medellin) or Brazil (SP vs Rio)? I've been to Rio earlier this year and really enjoyed it. Would love to come back but wondering if its worth an extra 7 hours on the plane as compared to Colombia. Would you guys have recommendations?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=James006;3025489]I had a fantastic experience in both Sao Paolo and Rio in 2024. However, I have always wanted to experience Colombia, but am afraid after reading up on the dangers. I have a stop in Bueno Saires and Bogota, but 14 days of free time in between. Would you who know Latin America advise me to immediately repeat Brazil or explore new areas in Colombia? I can't figure out where in Colombia it is best. I don't like to be afraid, but I'm not a complete wimp and I'm used to traveling. Since I have to go to Bogota for a few days and could stay there longer if I feel like it, would you drop Medellin, Cali, Cartagena? I'm looking for young spinners and don't spend money on older ladies I could get "for free" in Europe. I hope you with experience will give me some good advice. I know tastes are different, but I'm trying to make a plan. I haven't been to Bueno Saires in 10 years and I see from the reports that there have been big changes. In Brazil I always found something I liked every night. And unfortunately I am picky so the hunt is a challenge in places in the world where the really hot ladies are far apart. I have been to Tijuana and although anyone with money will succeed there, it is still the best I have experienced and I have never seen so many sexy girls gathered in one place. My experience in Mexico City was a letdown in comparison. Thanks for any good suggestions.[/QUOTE]I just spent 2 weeks in Medellin and Bogota in July on my first trip to Colombia. I arrived with the same preconceived notions about crime and scopolamine. I found both places to be very safe. Obviously there are some areas you might want to be careful at, but in general it's fine. I stayed in Poblado in Medellin and at Parque de LOS Hippies in Bogota. No big deal at either. Walked around even passed midnight at both. There is truly huge expat community in Medellin, mostly Americans, some even opened their own businesses there. Didn't see much of that in Brazil. I heard that you may want to be careful in Medellin Centro but I didn't spent much time there. Next time intent to though.

In regards to scopolamine I know some people that's been scoped and robbed by girls. I tried to pick those that wouldn't do that LOL. But this is a wrong place to talk about Colombia. I said my piece, but I suggest you go to Colombia section. This is Sao Paulo.

Hey guys I am in SP just for short quick 2-3 days. A bit confused on where should I get Brazilian reals from? The ATMs (I went to Santander and banca bradesco) seem to be a ripoff as they are charging 20-25% in fees / conversion etc. Airport exchange rates were also easily jacked up by 20%. Only place I could get a decent (less than 10% fees) was at Travelex in the city. Am I doing something wrong? Where do folks convert money or get Brazilian reals from (which Bank ATM should I go to?) so that I can get a decent exchange rate. Trying to convert 3-4 K USD.

[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;3025615]Hey guys I am in SP just for short quick 2-3 days. A bit confused on where should I get Brazilian reals from? The ATMs (I went to Santander and banca bradesco) seem to be a ripoff as they are charging 20-25% in fees / conversion etc. Airport exchange rates were also easily jacked up by 20%. Only place I could get a decent (less than 10% fees) was at Travelex in the city. Am I doing something wrong? Where do folks convert money or get Brazilian reals from (which Bank ATM should I go to?) so that I can get a decent exchange rate. Trying to convert 3-4 K USD.[/QUOTE]This has been mentioned before on this thread. The address you should try and locate is Seattle Turismo, Rua Oscar Freire, no passport needed, good rates. Pamplona Shopping Mall is nearby.

[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;3025615]Hey guys I am in SP just for short quick 2-3 days. A bit confused on where should I get Brazilian reals from? The ATMs (I went to Santander and banca bradesco) seem to be a ripoff as they are charging 20-25% in fees / conversion etc. Airport exchange rates were also easily jacked up by 20%. Only place I could get a decent (less than 10% fees) was at Travelex in the city. Am I doing something wrong? Where do folks convert money or get Brazilian reals from (which Bank ATM should I go to?) so that I can get a decent exchange rate. Trying to convert 3-4 K USD.[/QUOTE]When you withdraw from Bradesco ATMs, press the "decline" option when they offer their terrible conversion rate. Then you typically get the market rate (depending on your home bank). Bradesco doesn't make it obvious that you don't have to press "accept" to proceed on that rate screen, "decline" works.

[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;3025615]Hey guys I am in SP just for short quick 2-3 days......[/QUOTE]It's great to learn that you made it back again. How was your prior trip? A trip report, even if short, would be appreciated given the extensive help that the board provided you. This site only really works with some level of reciprocity.

Vagabundo concurs. Far too many members of ISG do not contribute, just take information, even on the whatsapp group that I run for rj and sp, though there some talk more. Some who do not even have one post on this forum.

Writing some reports on this site is the coin of this realm.

Not to stoke controversy, vagabundo would never do that, but yesterday at a beach drink with Chicago, Chicago observed that the women at classico beach club were as good as scandallo.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/classicobeachclub/[/URL]

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/9mB1fBw2JTYZsQBB7[/URL]

Av. Do Pepê, 1014 - 1014 - Barra the Tijuca, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22620-171.

That's your starting point during day, after fucking in a centro prive via metro to get your rio cost per fuck properly calibrated to your heat seeking sidewinder between your legs.

Then.

Pineapple.

Then perola negra or vitrinni.

"Classico Beach Club women as good as Scandallo ".

- Chicago85, a tough grader.

Vagabundo went to Classico Beach Club, posto 2, Barra today with a long time solid wingman, senor Chicago. His main takeaway was "Classico Beach Club women as good as Scandallo " .

Not to bury the lede or lead as the papers say, but that was the main point.

We arrived mid afternoon, 14 h30 or so. We stayed until almost the market close, 17 h local. There were some real 10's, hot brazilian asses and all, some with rings on their fingers as wingman observed, but what the actual fuck does that mean at the go-to afternoon destination of the Perola Negra top tier girls.

So, the usual crawl for the tier 1 terma girls in Barra is:

Daylight, classico beach club (cost for fish sticks and some drinks was 238 r. Vagabundo, being a cheap charlie munger, brings his own mate / sun brewed iced tea, and makes a note to get a nespresso machine, which is how they brew the coffee there, to which vagabundo who was getting ready for 2 hours of jiu jitsu and muay thai later that day was drinking. It was a rare sunny day when the water was too rough for actual swimming.).

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/classicobeachclub/[/URL]

Night, pineapple, olegario maciel (we went there last night, and the obvious higher end hoars were sitting next to us, and it would be easy to go for it. Cost for two salmon dinners and a brie appetizer and drinks was 300 r).

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/_pineappleoficial/[/URL]

Vitrinni (or all in).

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/vitrinniloungerj/[/URL]

That's all within walking distance, or as the locals like to do, bike itau. And it's within walking distance of vagabundo's new pad, which costs 60 usd / day first 2 months to account for deposit, and 40 usd / night for the next 10 months on a 1 year lease.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3025720]It's great to learn that you made it back again. How was your prior trip? A trip report, even if short, would be appreciated given the extensive help that the board provided you. This site only really works with some level of reciprocity.[/QUOTE]

Bringing a personal laptop or tablet is taxable through customs if they check us?

[QUOTE=Fewdie;3026356]Bringing a personal laptop or tablet is taxable through customs if they check us?[/QUOTE]I think only if it's new in box.

[QUOTE=James006;3025489]I had a fantastic experience in both Sao Paolo and Rio in 2024. However, I have always wanted to experience Colombia, but am afraid after reading up on the dangers. I have a stop in Bueno Saires and Bogota, but 14 days of free time in between.[/QUOTE]You will stay in Bogota. You can get a paid tour from Woodman. You probably won't see that type of venues with a lot of street actions that much in Brazil. You can see similar venues in Medellin but you will be on your own. If you compare the same type of establishment between the two countries, Brazil will have better service and better environment between the two on average. It's like you will get 50% BBBJ in Brazil and 20% BBBJ in Colombia in a brothel. These numbers are made up so you can get an idea. There are a lot of police, security and armed solders patrolling the area around El Poblado so it is safe when they are present. That is the exception but not the rule. It's generally safe if you see a lot of police, usually in the tourist area. Does it make you wonder why there are so many security around if it is safe? LOL You can find working girls easily in bars or on the street in the area. It's similar to Santa Fe in Bogota but in an afluent area and it will be much more expensive.

There is one girl bar left in BA. It's similar to Casarao in setup and price but smaller and less girls. There are still a lot of inexpensive online actions but I won't go there for mongering.

[QUOTE=Fewdie;3026356]Bringing a personal laptop or tablet is taxable through customs if they check us?[/QUOTE]I never leave home on an extended trip without bringing along my Maingear laptop PC, and I have never had a problem anywhere. But I strongly advise you to stow your laptop, all your electrical support devices and your valuables in your carry-on suitcase and once you are at your hotel, put everything of value in your room safe or under lock and key.

[QUOTE=Fewdie;3026356]Bringing a personal laptop or tablet is taxable through customs if they check us?[/QUOTE]Indeed Brazilian customs sounds incredibly restrictive compared to other countries. A notebook is not considered "an object for personal use" and only one smartphone is thus considered. Even Peru allows in two smartphones tax free. This article in Portuguese explains it all:

[URL]https://g1.globo.com/turismo-e-viagem/noticia/2022/07/09/entenda-se-e-possivel-trazer-celular-e-notebook-do-exterior-sem-pagar-imposto-de-importacao.ghtml[/URL]

I have never worried about this when entering Brazil though. I always bring two smartphones (one recent and one obviously older) plus my MacBook. I have hunch that such restrictions are more targeted at Brazilians coming back from abroad than at us foreign visitors.

[QUOTE=Fewdie;3026356]Bringing a personal laptop or tablet is taxable through customs if they check us?[/QUOTE]If you are a non resident, the laptop will enter and leave the country with you, taxes are not applicable, do not bring it new in the box.

I got taxed before while passing through customs, so don't want to get that surprise anymore. I always thought a tablet and computer would be considered a personal item because people go there for work all the time and MacBooks nowadays are all above thousand dollars.

[QUOTE=XXL;3026493]Indeed Brazilian customs sounds incredibly restrictive compared to other countries. A notebook is not considered "an object for personal use" and only one smartphone is thus considered. Even Peru allows in two smartphones tax free. This article in Portuguese explains it all:

[URL]https://g1.globo.com/turismo-e-viagem/noticia/2022/07/09/entenda-se-e-possivel-trazer-celular-e-notebook-do-exterior-sem-pagar-imposto-de-importacao.ghtml[/URL]

I have never worried about this when entering Brazil though. I always bring two smartphones (one recent and one obviously older) plus my MacBook. I have hunch that such restrictions are more targeted at Brazilians coming back from abroad than at us foreign visitors.[/QUOTE]

Were you ever stopped by customs though? A lot of times people get away with it because they just simply were never selected for inspection.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3026446]I never leave home on an extended trip without bringing along my Maingear laptop PC, and I have never had a problem anywhere. But I strongly advise you to stow your laptop, all your electrical support devices and your valuables in your carry-on suitcase and once you are at your hotel, put everything of value in your room safe or under lock and key.[/QUOTE].

No on the website they specifically stated that only one of our phone one watch and one camera are considered a personal item. Everything else whether it's personal use or not can get taxed.

[QUOTE=Nounce;3026418]I think only if it's new in box.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Fewdie;3026625]No on the website they specifically stated that only one of our phone one watch and one camera are considered a personal item. Everything else whether it's personal use or not can get taxed.

.[/QUOTE]Regardless of what it says they are not looking for the guy that has two phones. Tons of guys do. Travel there all the time with my laptop and two cells. Never been an issue.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3026639]Regardless of what it says they are not looking for the guy that has two phones. Tons of guys do. Travel there all the time with my laptop and two cells. Never been an issue.[/QUOTE]Same with me. Usually 1 tablet, 2 laptops, and 3 phones (work, personal / travel, old travel backup).

Let's get back to the girls. Also, I'm in town this week. Let's do this.

[QUOTE=Fewdie;3026624]Were you ever stopped by customs though? A lot of times people get away with it because they just simply were never selected for inspection. .[/QUOTE]No, I have never been stopped by customs in any of the countries I have ever visited, and I have visited a lot of countries in my time including Red China, Indonesia, Burma, Colombia, Brazil, Nepal, Bhutan, Thailand, and Singapore to name a few.

The only problem I ever had was one time on my return to Miami from the Grenadines and Winward Islands an imbecile customs agent tried to confiscate my Nikon zoom telephoto camera lens. I complained to an attractive American Airlines representative, and she took me to the customs office where the head customs agent apologized for the incident and returned my lens to me. This event took place over 40 years ago when US customs were a * Today I could walk through US customs with a kilo of blow in my suitcase and not get a 2nd glance. The times have changed. KKK!

But it sounds like you are seriously worried about your reception in Brazil despite what I and a few fellow BM's have said. If it bothers you this much don't bring a 2nd phone or your laptop. It is not worth worrying about. Be happy. You are about to enter Sao Paulo, the city of women.

In fact the times when Brazil had a very low amount for undeclared currency import were better, because you could declare your currency online and use the red queue to show them your currencies. Customs got busy checking your currencies and had no incentive to waste more time checking the contents of your luggage. At least that was my impression. It may have been a wrong impression but it gave a sense of safety regarding the electronics I was bringing along.

It also enabled me to cross customs much quicker by not wasting time in green queue ("nothing to declare").

It was packed. A 1 to 6 guy to girl ratio at least. Besides my uber driver shitting himself, it was an interesting night. If you go, be ready to pay 600 reels to get in and 400 of those reels can go to food and drink. Most girls charge 1000 reels for sex. One tried to charge 2,000 but that was my fault because I approached her too eagerly. She was like a sexy thick blond MILF, she was hot. The food was OK, I had a cesar salad. Service was nice, I felt classy as hell. Some celebrities were there. Sometimes you can see a group of hott girls standing around a table of a guy or guys who have other girls sitting with them; the standing girls are waiting their turn. Was inspirational for me to see. Most girls are a 7.5 and up but of course with my luck, the one girls who resembled Dwayne Johnson was the first to approach me. Soon as she said "Hello," I heard a glass break and the song started playing in my head, yea its the wrong theme music but I got the idea across. I wonder if they have cheaper clubs that are more direct and less expensive like the clubs in rio. Rio had set prices for all girls at some places, I really prefer that. I kind of miss Rio for this simplicity. Well ill go out again today I'll keep you guys updated.

[QUOTE=Philochko;3026922]It was packed. A 1 to 6 guy to girl ratio at least. Besides my uber driver shitting himself, it was an interesting night. If you go, be ready to pay 600 reels to get in and 400 of those reels can go to food and drink. Most girls charge 1000 reels for sex. One tried to charge 2,000 but that was my fault because I approached her too eagerly. She was like a sexy thick blond MILF, she was hot. The food was OK, I had a cesar salad. Service was nice, I felt classy as hell. Some celebrities were there. Sometimes you can see a group of hott girls standing around a table of a guy or guys who have other girls sitting with them; the standing girls are waiting their turn. Was inspirational for me to see. Most girls are a 7.5 and up but of course with my luck, the one girls who resembled Dwayne Johnson was the first to approach me. Soon as she said "Hello," I heard a glass break and the song started playing in my head, yea its the wrong theme music but I got the idea across. I wonder if they have cheaper clubs that are more direct and less expensive like the clubs in rio. Rio had set prices for all girls at some places, I really prefer that. I kind of miss Rio for this simplicity. Well ill go out again today I'll keep you guys updated.[/QUOTE]Some of the girls told me they love to go there Tuesdays because it's the days of the "empresarios" (business owners).

[QUOTE=Philochko;3026922]It was packed. A 1 to 6 guy to girl ratio at least. Besides my uber driver shitting himself, it was an interesting night. If you go, be ready to pay 600 reels to get in and 400 of those reels can go to food and drink. Most girls charge 1000 reels for sex. One tried to charge 2,000 but that was my fault because I approached her too eagerly. She was like a sexy thick blond MILF, she was hot. The food was OK, I had a cesar salad. Service was nice, I felt classy as hell. Some celebrities were there. Sometimes you can see a group of hott girls standing around a table of a guy or guys who have other girls sitting with them; the standing girls are waiting their turn. Was inspirational for me to see. Most girls are a 7.5 and up but of course with my luck, the one girls who resembled Dwayne Johnson was the first to approach me. Soon as she said "Hello," I heard a glass break and the song started playing in my head, yea its the wrong theme music but I got the idea across. I wonder if they have cheaper clubs that are more direct and less expensive like the clubs in rio. Rio had set prices for all girls at some places, I really prefer that. I kind of miss Rio for this simplicity. Well ill go out again today I'll keep you guys updated.[/QUOTE]I'm glad you enjoyed your experience. It is that. An EXPERIENCE!

If you want to move down in cost go to Casarao Augusta. It's a bar format and entry is like 100 R. More mixed set of girls. But def hotties to be had. Should be 500-600 R for onsite. I have scored some mega hotties there. Totally different environment from luxe Scandallo. But absolutely can score hotties for less if you persevere. Don't go before midnight if you want a lot of girls to be there. It's a ghost town before 12. Can be fun to arrive at 11 and watch them roll in.

[QUOTE=Philochko;3026922]It was packed. A 1 to 6 guy to girl ratio at least. Besides my uber driver shitting himself, it was an interesting night. If you go, be ready to pay 600 reels to get in and 400 of those reels can go to food and drink. Most girls charge 1000 reels for sex. One tried to charge 2,000 but that was my fault because I approached her too eagerly. She was like a sexy thick blond MILF, she was hot. The food was OK, I had a cesar salad. Service was nice, I felt classy as hell. Some celebrities were there. Sometimes you can see a group of hott girls standing around a table of a guy or guys who have other girls sitting with them; the standing girls are waiting their turn. Was inspirational for me to see. Most girls are a 7.5 and up but of course with my luck, the one girls who resembled Dwayne Johnson was the first to approach me. Soon as she said "Hello," I heard a glass break and the song started playing in my head, yea its the wrong theme music but I got the idea across. I wonder if they have cheaper clubs that are more direct and less expensive like the clubs in rio. Rio had set prices for all girls at some places, I really prefer that. I kind of miss Rio for this simplicity. Well ill go out again today I'll keep you guys updated.[/QUOTE]Last time I was there a really hot blonde quoted me 3,000 reals with covered BJ, no anal, and couldn't go down on her. GTFOH! Then she said OK 2,000 and I could eat her out. Double GTFOH! LMAO! By the way, could you possibly be the same "Philochko" of YouTube fame?

[QUOTE=Philochko;3026922]It was packed. A 1 to 6 guy to girl ratio at least. Besides my uber driver shitting himself, it was an interesting night. If you go, be ready to pay 600 reels to get in and 400 of those reels can go to food and drink. Most girls charge 1000 reels for sex …. I wonder if they have cheaper clubs that are more direct and less expensive like the clubs in rio. Rio had set prices for all girls at some places, I really prefer that. I kind of miss Rio for this simplicity. Well I’ll go out again today I'll keep you guys updated.[/QUOTE]Bomboa and Gauguin are other options. I can usually negotiate to 700-800 for the real hotties there and it's 1000-1200 at Scandallo, maybe 800 if I lower standards. I agree with Steve on Casarao (5000-600). I just don't like the super late night aspect and hotel next door. The hot girls will be in / out all night. A third option is Chanel / Friends 57. It might be 400 there.

Hi guys, I have some business to SP soon and am hoping to squeeze in Scandallo. I was wondering what days during the week are the best days to go? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3026980]Bomboa and Gauguin are other options. I can usually negotiate to 700-800 for the real hotties there and it's 1000-1200 at Scandallo, maybe 800 if I lower standards. I agree with Steve on Casarao (5000-600). I just don't like the super late night aspect and hotel next door. The hot girls will be in / out all night. A third option is Chanel / Friends 57. It might be 400 there.[/QUOTE]Bomboa, Gauguin, and Casarao. I'm going try what you guys suggested. I am looking for models for my onlyfans, I have only found 1 so far. I only want girls who are already in the adult video business. Most of them use Privacy tho, but not all make xxx content. Is club 57, zeus and Bahamas good? They are all so close to each other, I hope they all have working girls. That area also has all the best spas.

Are you saying the first girl approached you was a tranny!

[QUOTE=Philochko;3026922]It was packed. A 1 to 6 guy to girl ratio at least. Besides my uber driver shitting himself, it was an interesting night. If you go, be ready to pay 600 reels to get in and 400 of those reels can go to food and drink. Most girls charge 1000 reels for sex. One tried to charge 2,000 but that was my fault because I approached her too eagerly. She was like a sexy thick blond MILF, she was hot. The food was OK, I had a cesar salad. Service was nice, I felt classy as hell. Some celebrities were there. Sometimes you can see a group of hott girls standing around a table of a guy or guys who have other girls sitting with them; the standing girls are waiting their turn. Was inspirational for me to see. Most girls are a 7.5 and up but of course with my luck, the one girls who resembled Dwayne Johnson was the first to approach me. Soon as she said "Hello," I heard a glass break and the song started playing in my head, yea its the wrong theme music but I got the idea across. I wonder if they have cheaper clubs that are more direct and less expensive like the clubs in rio. Rio had set prices for all girls at some places, I really prefer that. I kind of miss Rio for this simplicity. Well ill go out again today I'll keep you guys updated.[/QUOTE]

I've read a ton in this forum spanning hundreds of pages so thank you all for the great information. My goal is to take out as little cash as I need and pay most by credit card. Please help fill out this information and hopefully this becomes a good resource for other people to read.

Scandallo. Can use credit card for everything. Paying girl by CC is 20% extra fee. No extra CC fee for anything else (room, entry, etc).

Casarao. Can use credit card for everything. Paying girl by CC is extra. No extra CC fee for anything else (room, entry, etc).

Gaugin / Bomboa. I want to visit both of these places and seems like credit card can be used but is there extra fees?

High end clinicas. Palms, Lotus, Sharon Prime. Can credit cards be used?

I am guessing there is no ATM near these places? I know in Sharks Frankfurt there is an ATM right at the place which is very convenient.

[QUOTE=EyesWide;3027004]I've read a ton in this forum spanning hundreds of pages so thank you all for the great information. My goal is to take out as little cash as I need and pay most by credit card.
Scandallo. Can use credit card for everything. Paying girl by CC is 20% extra fee. No extra CC fee for anything else (room, entry, etc).

Casarao. Can use credit card for everything. Paying girl by CC is extra. No extra CC fee for anything else (room, entry, etc).

High end clinicas. Palms, Lotus, Sharon Prime. Can credit cards be used? [/QUOTE]At high end boates like Scandallo & Bomboa, I usually bring enough cash to cover my 1st girl's anticipated fee and I charge everything else on the CC which amounts to 2 separate charges; 1) the bar tab (including the entry fee and all consumables) and 2) a separate hotel room fee. But before you take a girl upstairs to the hotel room, the receptionists always ask if you want to charge the girl's fee on the credit card and if you accept the offer, they will charge your card and give you cash for whatever amount you requested. Tip: even if you have zero cash and intend to put the girl's fee on your CC, never do it before sex. There is plenty of time to pay the girl and put her fee on the CC afterwards. Which is exactly what I do when I indulge in a 2nd girl and lack the cash to cover the 2nd tryst.

At places like Casarao and Bahamas I charge everything on the CC except the girl's fee which I pay in cash out of my pocket. It ain't that much so this is what I prefer.

There is no separate, privately arranged fee for girls at clinicas. The tab covers everything; both the girl's end & the house's cut, so I usually charge everything on the old CC. At some clinicas, like Abobboro, the customer must pay in advance, so after payment is made on the CC, they give you the girl's end in cash to give to her directly after the session. At the Palms I usually bring cash (350 br) for the girl's end and charge the balance on the CC after service is performed, but you could put everything on the CC ahead of time and clinica will give you the girl's end in cash to give to her after the session.

[QUOTE=EyesWide;3027004]I've read a ton in this forum spanning hundreds of pages so thank you all for the great information. My goal is to take out as little cash as I need and pay most by credit card. Please help fill out this information and hopefully this becomes a good resource for other people to read.

Scandallo. Can use credit card for everything. Paying girl by CC is 20% extra fee. No extra CC fee for anything else (room, entry, etc).

Casarao. Can use credit card for everything. Paying girl by CC is extra. No extra CC fee for anything else (room, entry, etc).

Gaugin / Bomboa. I want to visit both of these places and seems like credit card can be used but is there extra fees?

High end clinicas. Palms, Lotus, Sharon Prime. Can credit cards be used?

I am guessing there is no ATM near these places? I know in Sharks Frankfurt there is an ATM right at the place which is very convenient.[/QUOTE]Bad idea using ATM at any sex club worldwide. Def hit for a large fee because guys will pay it with pussy in hand. Best bet is Bradesco banks ATM. Always reliable and higher limits. Go during the day. They are not open at night. Nor should you be playing with cash late night in SP.

When the conversion screen comes up make sure to decline or say no or cancel. This will ensure they don't hit you for some crap rate which is as bad as ATM at the club.

And not all clubs have ATMs. I don't recall one at Casarao and Scandallos was broken last time I was there.

[QUOTE=Blakman;3026997]Are you saying the first girl approached you was a tranny![/QUOTE]She was not a trans but her upper-chest showed that she had a mean incline bench press.

Ok so I already made a Scandallo post, go check it out.

- Anyway, First I went to Club 57 at about 10 pm. It was kinda empty, but the lady at the desk had great English and she is very very nice! Even tho it is a club you can still request a full presentation from all the girls who aren't upstairs doing "giggity" even if they are talking to a guy at a table. Pretty sweet and that's free! Lady at front desk made me feel real comfortable there. If I go again it is because of her. They have a set price for "giggity" which is 300 reals for 30 minutes or 400 for 1 hour. I love it. They did have about 7 girls there but she said it was an empty night. They had like 3 girls over 6' feet tall, real women not trans. Looks wise; the average girl there was like a 5 - 7. One girl would have been a 9 to me but she has a ridiculous fake butt that just messes up her skinny young frame. Bad butt job. I am into naturally curvy brown skin Latinas and I got lucky after sitting there for 8 minutes. I saw a woman in a all brown body suit and damn! Fitness build but fake tits, everything else was awesome on her! I did the 300 for 30 minutes and she was a 10 in "giggity"! Best throat work I had in a long time. I will go and see her often. The room was nice and you don't pay extra at all for the room. Drinks and all were cheap. This is so far my favorite spot, I think I can find some onlyfans models from this place if I keep going.

Next spot I went to was Bamboa 222. This place costs 400 reals to get in and you can (should) use it all for drinks and or food. It is upscale, dress to impress. It is like a small version of Scandallo but they have nude strippers doing their thing. Live music and women are all 7.5 and up. I think they looked even better than in Scandallo. The man who showed me around introduced me to a real hott girl named Erica. Great ass, slim body curvy figure but fake tits. Face was angelic. I bought her wine for 380 reels and myself a water. I do not drink Alcohol being an athlete and all even tho I'm 40. She had some English, was kind to me and she seemed to be honest as hell. She even gave me permission to post about her on the internet. She travels often too. She charged 1000 to "giggity", same as scandallo. After I finished with her, I walked around and tried to find girls who were on privacy or onlyfans with no luck, then I just went home.

So I like both places better than scandallo. I didn't see any trans, I have nothing against trans but sometimes it just makes me feel uneasy when I'm looking for women in a sexual environment. Both bamboa and club 57 have nude strippers. Awesome spots.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3027082]Bad idea using ATM at any sex club worldwide. Def hit for a large fee because guys will pay it with pussy in hand. Best bet is Bradesco banks ATM. Always reliable and higher limits. Go during the day. They are not open at night. Nor should you be playing with cash late night in SP......[/QUOTE]I agree with Bradesco as a solid bet for maximum withdrawal per transaction and lower fees. The only occasional issue of late is the bills that they give you (50 r and 20 r). Two days ago I withdrew 2000 r, and despite the ATM saying it had 100 r, it gave me 30 x50 r and 25 x20 r. Like WTF LOL. Similar has happened the past 3 x at 3 different Bradesco ATMs.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3027103]I agree with Bradesco as a solid bet for maximum withdrawal per transaction and lower fees. The only occasional issue of late is the bills that they give you (50 r and 20 r). Two days ago I withdrew 2000 r, and despite the ATM saying it had 100 r, it gave me 30 x50 r and 25 x20 r. Like WTF LOL. Similar has happened the past 3 x at 3 different Bradesco ATMs.[/QUOTE]I too prefer Bradesco, and during my last trip earlier this year, I found Santander to be an excellent alternative.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3027108]I too prefer Bradesco, and during my last trip earlier this year, I found Santander to be an excellent alternative.[/QUOTE]It's crazy! Sometimes the big Santander Av Paulista works well for me and allows a large withdrawal and other times nada, no withdrawal, wtf, so I primarily use Bradesco's 2 big branches one on Av Paulista and the other on AV Faria Lima opposite the Iguatemi Shopping Mall and I never have a problem. It is even more convenient to use the ATM's inside the Hyatt and the Marrott Exec hotels when I am staying at those 2 places.

But remember, always use the Schwab or Needham Bank no fee debit cards or you will be hosed.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3027082]Bad idea using ATM at any sex club worldwide. Def hit for a large fee because guys will pay it with pussy in hand. Best bet is Bradesco banks ATM. Always reliable and higher limits. Go during the day. They are not open at night. Nor should you be playing with cash late night in SP.

When the conversion screen comes up make sure to decline or say no or cancel. This will ensure they don't hit you for some crap rate which is as bad as ATM at the club.

And not all clubs have ATMs. I don't recall one at Casarao and Scandallos was broken last time I was there.[/QUOTE]I have a Schwab ATM card which refunds the fees. I did some rough math and seems decline to convert option ended up similar to the going exchange rate when I was in Sharks. Interesting Scandallos has an ATM. Maybe I test it out and report back if it works to figure out what the exchange rate is.

Rua Augusta and Casarao. Not to mention Mabs now. Are areas to watch out for trans / keep the gaydar up.

Vagabundo was out with a ISGer at Mabs a few years ago and he was about to go up with a. He / she trans and one veteran 4 x4 girl, fany, allessandra who was fanny and has huge natural tits and is a passista pointed it out, and she earned like a 150 r tip, which made her roll over on her back and do a little orgasm dance.

I mean, evilangel directors like jazz duro are like all trans now, where as they. Jazz was one of the great buttman / john stagliano directors.

[QUOTE=Philochko;3027087]So I like both places better than scandallo. I didn't see any trans, I have nothing against trans but sometimes it just makes me feel uneasy when I'm looking for women in a sexual environment. Both bamboa and club 57 have nude strippers. Awesome spots.[/QUOTE]

For the higher end places, do you know how many you can speak to before selecting? Specifically, I have The Palms, Oro, Oyama Spa, Taj Mahal Spa, Baronesas on my list in that tier.

[QUOTE=Nounce;3025361]I won't go to Lotus to just see what's going on because you will only see the bar and some nice cars parked out front. You pick the girl from the tablet. You have to pay for the session once you talk to the girl. I like Palms the best. The owner is helpful, the facility is very good and consistent and it lets you talk to 2 girls. I also like Shannon because it lets you talk to 3 girls in person.

You won't get discount by subscribing. Only a few clinicas offer discount after you write the review.[/QUOTE]

Someone a few pages back asked about privately listed girls. I haven't partaken but I messaged a lady who I thought was a freelancer and received a message about a Model Dating Agency. They asked for a subscription fee of 1000 BRL and stated the average date ranges from 2000 to 3000 BRL for two hours. I didn't follow-up to verify if this is real so proceed with caution. If anyone is interested, I can post the insta link she gave me. Some of it looks like AI to be honest.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3027079]At high end boates like Scandallo & Bomboa, I usually bring enough cash to cover my 1st girl's anticipated fee and I charge everything else on the CC which amounts to 2 separate charges; 1) the bar tab (including the entry fee and all consumables) and 2) a separate hotel room fee. But before you take a girl upstairs to the hotel room, the receptionists always ask if you want to charge the girl's fee on the credit card and if you accept the offer, they will charge your card and give you cash for whatever amount you requested. Tip: even if you have zero cash and intend to put the girl's fee on your CC, never do it before sex. There is plenty of time to pay the girl and put her fee on the CC afterwards. Which is exactly what I do when I indulge in a 2nd girl and lack the cash to cover the 2nd tryst.

At places like Casarao and Bahamas I charge everything on the CC except the girl's fee which I pay in cash out of my pocket. It ain't that much so this is what I prefer.

There is no separate, privately arranged fee for girls at clinicas. The tab covers everything; both the girl's end & the house's cut, so I usually charge everything on the old CC. At some clinicas, like Abobboro, the customer must pay in advance, so after payment is made on the CC, they give you the girl's end in cash to give to her directly session.[/QUOTE]Same here. I use credit card for everything except paying the garotas directly in Scandallo, Casarao, bomba, Clinicas pay in credit card too. The forista discount is a great deal. There is a small fee for using card in clinicas prime, Abbobora, Miruna, Tangara, ReservaLux, Moah, 57 friends, the thing is to track is name they use on your card which is very different from its name. There is no Scandallo charge. I did a bit of trivia, few months ago listing names of different often mentioned spots.

For Cash vagabundo is right this fvcking great country has no money, especially to give change. If you use cash in supermercado, or to pay entrance fees, expect a song and dance if you want your change back. Some garotas in casarao have stripe or Mercado libre pay app for those dudes that run out of cash. Its Up to you and your risk tolerance.

I was at Cassrao with 20 year old cutepie K of green bikini Lush fame. She had her sister in town. I fvcking forgot she is a damn good cum swallower. She lapped everything up with a cumburp and a satisfied smile of a job well done. Two casarao garotas eager to swallow the load is wicked good. 350 brl forty minutes room or 400 brl for one hour room.

I prefer hooking up with scandallo, Casarao, top of the line Clinica garotas at motels for $400 brl or $500 brl all night. Of course I have to wait until the time of month she needs a little extra reais and sends the "oi" message. Kkkk.

ProTip: if you want to know the names of the receptionist at different spots mentioned in gpguia reviews. Reviewers give a shout out to the receptionist team to get the forista discount for our "nicky" and visit. Tangara has a hot new lineup this week, green eyed sexy Meghan markle lmorenas, I could session with two at a time with forista discounted of $400 brl, Moah Spa has discount for two garotas at $300 brl but a weakass lineup. You only get discount if they know you, your Nicky and posted acrecent review of their spot.

[QUOTE=IndecentPro;3027198]For the higher end places, do you know how many you can speak to before selecting? Specifically, I have The Palms, Oro, Oyama Spa, Taj Mahal Spa, Baronesas on my list in that tier.[/QUOTE]I'm not totally sure what you're asking, but in my experience you choose and go. There is no ability to interview. It's the same as the other clinicas.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3027079]At high end boates like Scandallo & Bomboa, I usually bring enough cash to cover my 1st girl's anticipated fee and I charge everything else on the CC which amounts to 2 separate charges; 1) the bar tab (including the entry fee and all consumables) and 2) a separate hotel room fee.....

There is no separate, privately arranged fee for girls at clinicas. The tab covers everything; both the girl's end & the house's cut, so I usually charge everything on the old CC. At some clinicas, like Abobboro, the customer must pay in advance, so after payment is made on the CC, they give you the girl's end in cash to give to her directly after the session. At the Palms I usually bring cash (350 br) for the girl's end and charge the balance on the CC after service is performed, but you could put everything on the CC ahead of time and clinica will give you the girl's end in cash to give to her after the session.[/QUOTE]My experience at Abbobora and Miruna has always been that I could pay the girl in cash afterwards. I pay for the room on my CC. I don't recall as much with Prime and others. Usually they charge 10% extra for the girls fee, but nothing extra for the roon. YMMV.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3027305]My experience at Abbobora and Miruna has always been that I could pay the girl in cash afterwards. I pay for the room on my CC. I don't recall as much with Prime and others. Usually they charge 10% extra for the girls fee, but nothing extra for the roon. YMMV.[/QUOTE]Perhaps our experiences are not that different. Every time I visit Abbobora, after I have been shown the lineup & have selected a girl in the southeastern wing of the building, I walk around to the northwestern side where the receptionist clerk asks me how I want to pay; cash or CC and I always say CC. Thus, she charges my CC 350 BR for the entire bill and hands me 200 BR in cash to give my girl after service is rendered. So, the house's cut of the total 350 br charge is 150 BR and I am sure that includes an extra 10% charge for the use of the CC over what I would pay in cash. The extra price would be 10% of 200 BR which is 20 BR if you are correct and they do not charge a CC fee on the room, but I don't care if its 320,330, or 350. I like the convenience of not carrying around small bills.

Prime is a little different. I have always paid in total after the session if memory serves. It has been a while since I last visited Prime, but I know I never paid a Prime girl directly, hence the total bill is not broken up into component parts and I just put it all on the CC before leaving. The last time I went there I paid 250 BR total by CC and I am sure there was a fee tucked into the bill for transactional CC convenience.

For a two hour session with two garotas. I order us a round of drinks, Smirnoff Ice, Hedgeybull Zero, whiskey, and gin tonica. The garotas bring the marola. In Abbobora pay separately for the drinks at the time of ordering, some garotas have marola some don't. The motoboy can deliver. Prime offers no liquor drinks, I mentioned to Patty and Carol there is a high margin on drinks if they offered them as a convenience. For Prime, I do a beer drink run at the supermercado up the street or at posto gasolina on the corner to grab small bottles tonbring my own stash of drinks to Prime. Prime garotas supply the marola, damn they have strong ass marola. 57 Chanes charges the session and bar drinks together on the bill. Watch out for those pricey lady drinks. Tangara bar downstairs is a good spot to drink and chat while waiting for the better larger rooms. Pay separately at the bar. In Tangara I order bar drinks to the room for the garotas doing two and three-hour sessions. Kkkk Many times I pay at the front desk with reception, them buzzed myself out, and forgot to pay the bar tab downstairs. I hoped their new fancy ass desk & new computer they could have fixed the issue to Just friggin add the cost of the bar to the bill. Sometimes they waited a month or two for me to pay the overdue bar tab. Moah spa combines bar drinks and session at the end. Miruna combines both. Enjoy and ReserveLux does the same. Casarao pay drinks at time of ordering. The big Morena gal at casarao motel receptionhas seen my naked ass pounding away. She come in with the machine to pay for our drinks. Shit I ain't stopping the pounding on two young hot blonde garotas just to frigin pay bring the credit card machine over to the bed kkk.

Its a pain in the ass to do a separate credit charge for the bar. Or Paying cash for the bar is worse if you want change back, none of those bar mofos have change.

Thanks for the feedback on credit cards. Pay cash to girls if possible and rest just go with card.

Another question that I didn't see anyone address in like 300 pages LOL is how do they track your tab? Like do you have to pay for each transaction as in pay entry (1), pay room (2), pay drink (3) and on and on. I guess this differs from place to place but I plan to only go to boates so Casarao up to Scandallo.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3027317]Perhaps our experiences are not that different. ...., the house's cut of the total 350 br charge is 150 BR and I am sure that includes an extra 10% charge for the use of the CC over what I would pay in cash. The extra price would be 10% of 200 BR which is 20 BR if you are correct and they do not charge a CC fee on the room, but I don't care if its 320,330, or 350. I like the convenience of not carrying around small bills.....[/QUOTE]Yeah, I do hear you on the bills, I have quite a few small ones right now ha ha. Btw - I do believe Abbobora is 400 r now (150r room, 250r to the girl). It may vary a little on day, but I recall paying that 2 months ago. This trip I have gone, but not sessioned yet (too late in day, no quality!

Nounce said The Palms allows you to talk to two girls (presumably after selecting them from the tablet). He says Shannon in his post. I assume he meant Sharon where I have sessioned and wrote about my experience (girl had many more tattoos than her pictures online and on the tablet). He says 'Shannon' allows you to speak to 3 girls. If so, it would help because you can quickly eliminate those who are different than their pictures.

My question was if all higher end clinicas allow this. And how many girls can you interview at each before making a selection (within reason 2-3).

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3027304]I'm not totally sure what you're asking, but in my experience you choose and go. There is no ability to interview. It's the same as the other clinicas.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3027305]My experience at Abbobora and Miruna has always been that I could pay the girl in cash afterwards. I pay for the room on my CC. I don't recall as much with Prime and others. Usually they charge 10% extra for the girls fee, but nothing extra for the roon. YMMV.[/QUOTE]I have never paid the girl directly at Miruna. Most clinicas (other than the high end ones) you pay the session fee to reception, usually after the session is over.

Don't you pay before?

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;3027442]I have never paid the girl directly at Miruna. Most clinicas (other than the high end ones) you pay the session fee to reception, usually after the session is over.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EyesWide;3027354]Thanks for the feedback on credit cards. Pay cash to girls if possible and rest just go with card.

Another question that I didn't see anyone address in like 300 pages LOL is how do they track your tab? Like do you have to pay for each transaction as in pay entry (1), pay room (2), pay drink (3) and on and on. I guess this differs from place to place but I plan to only go to boates so Casarao up to Scandallo.[/QUOTE]Both Scandallo and and Casarao use a plastic card system. They give you a card like a credit card when you pay your entry. And every time you get a drink or whatever they will ask for your card. Then they total on the exit. It's a way that you end up doing more just like any credit card because it's so easy. Don't lose it.

Friends 57 goes old school and gives you a paper card where they make little annotations when you buy stuff. Same thing tho. Pay on exit.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3027451]Don't you pay before?[/QUOTE]It's been always after except for perhaps Clinica Yankin, as I don't remember if it was before or after.

Given the high praise everyone has for Brazil, I assume 60 minutes means multiple shots on goal is allowed. This wasn't specifically addressed anywhere but is this the case even for clinicas? I may visit a clinica as my first session on trip so would like to pop twice.

Possibly the best experience during my travel to SP. Taj Mahal Spa.

Av. Min. Gabriel de Rezende Passos, 336, Moema.

Using Whatsapp, I received a link to their available girls. I chose a double with Tokyo and Bali. The price quoted was 1070 reals for one hour. The facility is impressive compared to other studios I visited. The room was the best with a good bed and sheets, towels and toiletries, and excellent shower. I was escorted to the room where I waited for the girls. After a few minutes, the beauties arrived. I was pleased that the photos matched the girls. Tokyo is a thin Asian 5'8" and Bali is a thin blond 5'7" tall. Surprisingly, both spoke English, Tokyo from working in a hotel and Bali from living in Europe as a child. I took a quick shower. The girls showered separately. When I came out of the shower, Bali started rubbing herself against me in a seductive manner while Tokyo took her shower. Afterwards, Bali took her shower. The girls wanted to start with a massage (I was aware that this was not strictly a brothel) and asked me to lie on my stomach. Bali covered herself in oil and began rubbing her body against my back. I was pleased to see that both girls had removed their underwear. Both girls were giving me a firm massage. They were both pleasant in their demeanor. After about 10 minutes they asked me to flip over. Bali was all over me, kissing me on the mouth. I was very happy at this moment, as the girls at an earlier spa (Kailash Spa) extracted another 300 reals each for full-service.

The Brazilian girls are uninhibited. I was able to engage sexually in any fashion. Lots of French kissing, rimming to them, cunnilingus, finger in vagina, facesitting, and lots of sexual positions. They did not have sex with each other. It wasn't offered and wasn't requested. They also did not offer anal, and I did not ask. They both had perfect bodies. We had sex for the full hour. We took showers afterwards (again separately). Paid 1070 reals at the reception on departure.

Hey Ak233, I have had the pleasure of Tokyo. The house plays up her Asian origins, with the name thing and her choice of clothes, but she is at least as much Italian as Asian. In any case I dig her slender body and she is pretty good looking even though she is in her thirties. With me she played the damsel in distress which surprisingly turned me on. KKK. We only kissed towards the end and separate showers which I did not like, so I never repeated with her although I have not written her off either. Bali looks like a nice girl. I will keep her in mind when I go to Taj again.

As to menage a trois, real menage a trois: in my humble experience, it usually does not usually work with 2 NEW girls ie with new girls I don't usually get the bisexual stuff which is what makes it a real three-way. So, I mind my own business and start with a favorite repeat girl and over time I see if she leans that way and if she has a friend that SHE wants to invite to the party. As a result, I have had 2 great threesome relationships in SP:

The 1st and ongoing one was with my favorite Scandallo girl back when we were still getting acquainted and I used to do her in Scandallo. Nowadays she is like my mistress when I am in town, and she comes over to my hotel whenever I want which is a lot, KKK. Anyway, one night her girlfriend came over to our table while we were drinking a bottle of red wine in the Scan patio bar and yada, yada, yada.

My 2nd great three-way was with my favorite Bomboa girl who one night when she was at my hotel was showing me some pictures on her phone and I saw a few of the photos of a very sexy girl. I lingered over one of that girl's photo and my girl asked me if I thought she was pretty, and I said yes, she is very pretty. Then my girl explained that they were lovers, and she was bisexual. We talked a little bit about that and then she asked if I was interested in having a three way with the two of them and the rest was history.

In both cases the menage was a real three-way with the girls making out with each other and sucking my dick simultaneously and with me going down on one girl with the help of the other girl and both of us licking pussy and making out at the same time on top of everything else a guy and two chicks can do in bed. After the intermission with my Bomboa girl and her GF, the two girls asked me to lay back while they started the flame going again between themselves first and then they invited me back into the mix to finish up with the 2nd girl.

Yeah, I have had a few great threesomes in Makati and BKK lasting several years each, with one girl typically sitting on my face while the other girl rides my dick and vice versa, but these two threesomes in SP were THE BEST I ever had in my life! And the good news is I still see my Scandallo girl, so whenever I feel like it, we invite one of her Scan girlfriends over just to mix things up a little. It is a funny thing, but my Scandallo girl says she is not really into girls on her own, unlike my Bomboa girl who is flat out bisexual and maybe even prefers girls over boys, but as I say to Valeria (Miss Scandallo), you could have fooled me. HaHaHa.

[QUOTE=Ak233;3027508]Possibly the best experience during my travel to SP. Taj Mahal Spa.
<snip>
I chose a double with Tokyo and Bali. The price quoted was 1070 reals for one hour. <snip> Tokyo is a thin Asian 5'8" and Bali is a thin blond 5'7" tall. <Snip> They were both pleasant in their demeanor. Bali was all over me, kissing me on the mouth. I was very happy at this moment,

The Brazilian girls are uninhibited. I was able to engage sexually in any fashion. Lots of French kissing, rimming to them, cunnilingus, finger in vagina, facesitting, and lots of sexual positions. They did not have sex with each other. It wasn't offered and wasn't requested. <snip> We took showers afterwards (again separately). <Paid> 1070 reals at the reception on departure.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3027358]Yeah, I do hear you on the bills, I have quite a few small ones right now ha ha. Btw - I do believe Abbobora is 400 r now (150r room, 250r to the girl). It may vary a little on day, but I recall paying that 2 months ago. This trip I have gone, but not sessioned yet (too late in day, no quality![/QUOTE]Yes, 400 is the price. I went to Abbobora last week.

[QUOTE=Ak233;3027508]Possibly the best experience during my travel to SP. Taj Mahal Spa.

Av. Min. Gabriel de Rezende Passos, 336, Moema.

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Paid 1070 reals at the reception on departure.[/QUOTE]Thank for the report, Ak233.
I thought the clinicas offer full-service. I am guessing that the girls at Kailash Spa probably scammed you. Did you report to the management? Sounds like a place to avoid.
$R1070 is a great price for 2 girls considering Taj Mahal is supposed to be a high-end clinica. Is there an option to skip the massage and go directly to fun activities? Any idea what the price for a one girl?

It's 620 for 1 girl for 1 hour with cash. With card it's 640.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3027541]Thank for the report, Ak233.
I thought the clinicas offer full-service. I am guessing that the girls at Kailash Spa probably scammed you. Did you report to the management? Sounds like a place to avoid.
$R1070 is a great price for 2 girls considering Taj Mahal is supposed to be a high-end clinica. Is there an option to skip the massage and go directly to fun activities? Any idea what the price for a one girl?[/QUOTE]

That is key intel.

Thanks, as always for valuable info.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;3027496]It's been always after except for perhaps Clinica Yankin, as I don't remember if it was before or after.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3027541]Thank for the report, Ak233.
I thought the clinicas offer full-service. I am guessing that the girls at Kailash Spa probably scammed you. Did you report to the management? Sounds like a place to avoid.
$R1070 is a great price for 2 girls considering Taj Mahal is supposed to be a high-end clinica. Is there an option to skip the massage and go directly to fun activities? Any idea what the price for a one girl?[/QUOTE]I liked Kailish Spa and will report shortly. As for Taj Mahal, the 2-girl price was 1070 reals all-in, and I think the 1-girl price for "nuru" was 600 reals per hour. I went to a lot of spas and clinics. As far as skipping the massage one approach that worked for me was "can we have the massage after?" For Taj Mahal being my first time visiting I was uncertain about the protocol so just went with it. I don't mind 10 minutes of body rubbing and ball-and-ass grabbing. Communication via whatsapp is straighforward. They will send you a pricelist.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3027526]Hey Ak233, I have had the pleasure of Tokyo. The house plays up her Asian origins, with the name thing and her choice of clothes, but she is at least as much Italian as Asian. In any case I dig her slender body and she is pretty good looking even though she is in her thirties. We only kissed towards the end and separate showers which I did not like, so I never repeated with her although I have not written her off either. Bali looks like a nice girl.

Yeah, I have had a few great threesomes in Makati and BKK lasting several years each, with one girl typically sitting on my face while the other girl rides my dick and vice versa...[/QUOTE]Hello AxelH,

Both girls were very beautiful to my tastes "7. 5 to 8" out of "10" Tokyo had the look of an old girlfriend, so I spend a bit more intimacy with her. As a result, she responded like a flower, with sweet kissing and affection. I had a quite romantic interaction with her despite Bali sucking my shaft and riding me as you described above. I enjoyed Tokyo sitting on my face as well. Bali was a bit more professional but she definitely wanted to provide a service in full. No restrictions from either girl. I liked licking each of their asses. Separate showers.

[QUOTE=Ak233;3027574]I liked Kailish Spa and will report shortly. As for Taj Mahal, the 2-girl price was 1070 reals all-in, and I think the 1-girl price for "nuru" was 600 reals per hour. I went to a lot of spas and clinics. As far as skipping the massage one approach that worked for me was "can we have the massage after?" For Taj Mahal being my first time visiting I was uncertain about the protocol so just went with it. I don't mind 10 minutes of body rubbing and ball-and-ass grabbing. Communication via whatsapp is straighforward. They will send you a pricelist.[/QUOTE]Good tip, I'll definitely try that to avoid message early. So is every single of of these clinicas messagems required to do massage to be legal or something?

Wanted to share an item I've noticed. There's definitely some overlap in ownership structure or just informal relationships between girls and clinicas which can lead to great deals. For example, yesterday Hanna and Naiara were both working at Sigh Spa with 650 being the going rate each for 1 HR if paid in cash and 685 if paid with card. But today those garotas are at Miruna. The going rate for each of them is 330 HR or 240 for half hour. While I'm not saying Scandallo girls will be in the lower tier clinicas. It seems like there is a lot of fluidity for where they work. Sometimes this can lead to pice discounts of 50% on posted rates from day to day for the same girl.

Thought I'd share another tip. In addition to the fluidity of pricing that you see for the same girls (I've seen dozens of these examples), another thing I'll share is that InDriver is a great alternative to Uber. It is especially good for longer distance journeys or city to city. If you're taking an Uber from GRU in to Moema, I'm getting 120 reals for regular Uber and close to 200 for Uber Black. As an alternative, InDriver is giving me offers for 70 - 90. This is paid in cash so that may be a consideration. But locals can also pay with pix I believe.

[QUOTE=James006;3025489]I had a fantastic experience in both Sao Paolo and Rio in 2024. However, I have always wanted to experience Colombia, but am afraid after reading up on the dangers. I have a stop in Buenos aires and Bogota, but 14 days of free time in between......[/QUOTE]Coming from as far away as Europe I say give Colombia a shot if it isn't too far out of your way. There is the danger of drugging but as long as you watch your drink or don't drink at all you should be fine.

Both Brazil and Colombia have their strong and weak points.

Hey All. I'm in Sao Paulo for the next two weeks. I've RTFF and it's not my first trip. Been here five times before and this is trip number 6 but not all were for hobbying. I'm staying in Moema / Indianapolis area with great walkability. I have a to-do for this trip which includes girls from The Palms, Taj Mahal, Moema Spa, Lotus Lounge, and a few other higher end clinicas. As opposed to the usual process. People asking questions and then not posting trip reports, I'm in the position to do the opposite. I don't have any questions but I can get intel. If anyone wants specific intel about particular clinicas or girls, let me know. Also excited to hit some clinicas that I've never seen talked about on here. A bit further out of the main Moema area but look very promising (more to come on that). Planning to hit Scandallo / Casarao some nights as well. If anyone wants to meet up. Let me know. I don't have a membership but I can buy one if there's anyone here now who wants to meet up.

Just got back from a short trip to Scandallo. This was my 2nd visit to Brazil. And it's becoming my favorite go to place for hobbying.

Arrived at Scandallo on the day of the live event. Doors were closed off and sound check was going on. Saw a lot of beautiful garotas hanging around the small garden area behind the elevator. Sat in the restaurant, ordered a drink. A beautiful branca makes eye contact with me, her name is Maria, short spinner looking very skinny, all natural young GND look. I invite her for a drink, we talk and flirt and kiss, her English was good. I ask how much to go up to the room and she quotes 2500 R $. I try to negotiate, she came to 2000 R $ and wouldn't budge. I wasn't going to pay that price knowing there are plenty of girls out there. She argues, "look at me I'm beautiful you want other ugly girls go for it". I gave her 300 R $ because I kissed her before as a tip and said sorry the room didn't work out. She goes around looking for another client, only to turn around and come back. I say 1200 R $ because I already paid $300 R and she agrees. In the room she was awesome. Great energy, good fuck, can take a hard pounding despite her spinner like look. She screams and moans "O Cariniho" which I later find out means O dear great room overall.

The problem I find with Scandallo is that the 1 HR rooms are too long a time. Coming from the FKK system, I'm naturally used to half hour session and comfortable with that length of time. I could very well get 7-8 rooms on a good day at the FKK but in Scandallo, I'm exhausted after my first room.

Drained and recharging, I sat at the restaurant. Ordered another drink. Found Luara, proper loira with blonde hair white skin, tall, girl. Wearing a silky skin hugging cocktail dress that showed her stomach. I was instantly attracted to her. Invited her for a drink and we sat and chat for a while. Negotiated 1200 R $ and went in the room. The session was great, she resisted kissing, also didn't give BBBJ and was resisting sex after a little bit of time. Mediocre session, not worth it. But I said fuck it and moved on.

Needed sometime to recharge while I found my regular girl that I met on the last trip. Blue eyed branca with a perfect figure, big natural tits, huge ass, white skin. She could very well take the pounding. Went with her. Had a great session.

The club was packed shoulder to shoulder for the live music event, a lot of people and a lot more girls. There was no room to walk around, upstairs area was open and I saw a lot of girls going up and coming down. Just went home after this long day to get some rest.

Next day, I showed up at the club a little late than usual. Checked in got my Scandallo card. And took the elevator up to the first floor. Door opens and it's a sight to behold, plenty of beautiful girls just waiting to get fucked.

I chatted with this girl named Bruna yesterday but didn't go with her because she wearing a baggy white shirt. Today to my surprise, she looked very sexy in a red dress, her big natural tits almost popping out of her dress, I invited her for a drink, we talked quite a bit and negotiated a room with her. She was looking very perky and bouncy. She was great in bed but she had a Bush almost a landing strip which was a turn off for me. Fucked her, finished, we chatted in bed. She mentioned she worked at diva's escort agency in London, funny I fucked a girl from that agency when I was visiting there. I suggested her to try working at forever escort agency in Montreal Canada, which will be exciting to see.

Side rant, Montreal used to be my favorite spot for hot white Quebecoise girls a couple years back but it has gone so much downhill since. Initially I wasn't planning to go to Brazil, but instead wanted to go to Montreal, shorter flight, easier on my body and decent quality of girls but looking at the recent experiences, I swapped it out for Brazil even though it's a 13 HR flight. Looking at the girls before having sex is so much worth it, instead of relying on face blurred pics on an escort agency website.

Coming back to Scandallo, looking for my next target, I picked up a skinny redhead, sitting at the bar, don't remember her name, after a drink took her to the room. She took her dress off and she had a lot of red skin patches and was very ugly. She did give good service but I was turned off. Finished the session before time, cut my losses and moved on.

Next looking for my target, OMG, found this stunning girl standing at the bar, beautiful face, showing her stomach, 10/10, her name was Anna Beatriz. I asked if I could buy her a drink, went to the restaurant, chatted with her for over an hour. I wasn't particularly horny after my previous session so wasn't kissing her, but after sometime, I decided fuck it and went in for a kiss, it was so good that she earned her room. Her skin was flawless, so soft and smooth. We went inside and I pinned her against the door holding her belly. I couldn't get enough of her cute waist, it was soft and curvy just the right amount, not too fat, not too muscular abs like. The DFK was amazing, I kissed her for half hour while she was pinned by her stomach. My dick was rock hard, on the bed, fucked her crazy hard, and she wouldn't stop kissing me. Best session this trip.

Went home after the fuck of a lifetime, slept like a baby.

The last day, full energy prepared to do a lot of rooms. I arrive at the restaurant, order some pasta and walked around. The LU is weaker today because of Friday as compared to previous two days but still plenty of girls to work with. I saw a branca sitting next to Bruna (from my first day). I invite her for a drink, we chat, she has natural tits which are trying to poke out of the dress. I feel her energy is a bit off, She's offending me, mildly making jokes that I wouldn't find funny, she also seemed like too much attitude like she's doing me a favor. She crossed the line, when she said that I ate something with garlic and made a face after kissing me and said I smelled bad. I yelled at her in anger, then why are you here with me. And left.

Angry and horny at the same time, I went to the gardens, saw another redhead and got settled with her. She was all natural Huiva, and said she spoke little bit of Mandarin because she had a lot of Asian clientele. From my FKK experience, I know better than to avoid Asian hunters, they want quick easy work and are super rushed and pricey. That was strike 1. Strike 2 came when I asked her if her Bush was also redhair, and she said no it wasn't and confirmed she had some hair on her pussy because Chinese men loved that. That was strike 2, I like clean shaven. The final strike came in when I saw this amazing white girl with a cute face and big natural tits waiting to pop out. I had to make this redhead go away so that I can act on this new Kate Upton waiting at the bar. I looked at the Huiva and said I'm deciding if I want to room with her and she gets angry and says, I should have decided this before I came and left. Thank god now I can sow my wild oats with the beauty waiting at the bar.

I lock eyes with her, invite her to come sit with me from across the room, she looks as if I'm talking to someone behind her, no I sign it's you just walk over here. Holy shit, her tits, her face, her body language, she's an 11/10. I can't get a girl like her with conventional methods. But hey that's why God created Brazil. Her name is Michelli, she was an English teacher from Floripa. I said teach me English. Whoo, she was so hot, I was scared of rejection from her, but I was playing it cool, there are plenty of girls and I don't care if she goes with me or not, but in my head I wanted her.

Playing into the game, I said what do you feel about the room, she quotes 2 k, I'm not doing that and I counter 1200, she says she doesn't go beyond 1800. I took a pause and thought should I just give it to her or accept the risk of letting her go. I said let's play the game, it's hard to find a man today and most girls would be lucky to even get a guy to buy them a drink. I said 1500 is the max I can do. She says, she wants to talk more while she decides. I'm like cool take your time but not more than 5 mins. She agrees to the room, it's game time.

She takes off her blouse and I skipped a breath. Those big tits just swinging. All natural, amazing, skin and face. Lucky me I got a room with the mirrors. I pinned her to the mirror and squeezed those soft melons like stress balls. She started with a BBBJ and holy shit watching her bobbing up and down on my cock, on her knees while I stand on top of her like a king. Seeing this in the mirror, I wonder how did I convince such a hot girl to suck my dick, but I knew better not to ask any questions because I could do a lot worse. She wasn't kissing me, but BBBJ was awesome. I was getting tired of BJ and wanted to fuck, but I knew if I stopped it, who knows what happens. She got tired eventually and said let's fuck. On the bed, I fucked her hard, my cock was rock hard first room of the day, and she's crazy fucking hot. Fucked the full hour, she finished me with a BBBJ while I was holding her tits. Holy shit, I fucked her 1 time, I'm pretty sure I'm not going to get to fuck her next time. She's too good. I don't deserve her.

I looked for my next target, see this blonde, drink go to the room, she takes off her dress, her body is hideous, a Bush, silicon tits, botched boob jos with scars, too fat on the stomach after lipo. Total waste, cut the session short and move on.

Last room wanted to play it safe, repeated with my submissive blue eyed branca from day-1 and last trip. Great session and satisfaction. Saw Anna Beatriz flirting with another man, but she was gone before I could find her.

Whoo Scandallo was a roller coaster, some rooms were better than anything ever, others were worse than I expected.

The final day, checked out of my hotel, had a flight in the evening, had some time to kill. Went to Terraco Italia, my go to spot for fine dining with a view.

Side question. What restaurants do you guys recommend?

Day time mongering option, decided to try something new. Abbobora. It was 3 pm in the afternoon, arrived at the location, was confused where to enter. I picked up the phone and spoke Portuguese, than saw another man behind me enter the door on the right, so I followed him. The lady at the reception spoke Portuguese only but hey how difficult can mongering be.

Sat on the couch on front of the door and one by one girls started coming out like it was a magic door. Each of them side kissed me on the cheek and said Tudo Bem, Olivia, Prazzer, their name. And went around the room kissing every guy, with me was a very good looking young man, full on Chad and an older asian guy. The women were a bit rundown not top quality but you get what you pay for it's only 400 BRLs for 1 hour. I was about to give up and leave, while I found Maiyara. Decided to go with her. The rooms of this clinicas are quite nice, not as good as Scandallo but nothing is. The girl gave a great BBBJ and it was fun to see it in the mirror, fucked a bit but felt disgusted, because her pussy lips were not well done and she looked very high mileage. Took an early shower and left before time. Looked at the presentation one more time, a few more prazzers and then the mamasan was like that's it and it's time to go and opened the door for me. I felt they kicked me out, while the Chad waited for an hour and still was hanging in the reception. I guess perks of being a foreigner non-porto that I get shown the door.

This was very similar to luxury brothels in Australia and their line up procedure, girls wait in 1 room and go one by one to the clients, except the waiting area is a small room, so interaction is behind closed doors unlike clinica where it's open reception.

Abbobora, I did ask for Sasha as someone mentioned she was good earlier in the reports but the mamasan said no. I wouldn't go there again, might try another clinica or something, but Scandallo still remains the top hit.

Side note. I did find a prepaid TIM chip sim from a newsstand, 30 BRLs, 20 days, 11 GB unlimited whatsapp. No CPF, no contracts, just insert the chip dial 144 option 3 option3 connect to English speaking operator, provide fake name, fake passport and fake address and voila you're connected to Brazil. I bought another 2 of these, for my future trips so I can just land and get connected, it's cheaper than 1 day of international plan on my American cellular provider.

Side note 2 - Bradesco bank closes at 4 pm, so get your cash early in the day. I was stuck finding a banco24 ATM which only wended 50 BRL bills and lower max limit so I had to make multiple transactions to get my Scandallo cash for the day and my wallet felt very uncomfortable in my pants with this load of cash.

Taxis can use the bus lane, so they're much faster. You can book them through the uber app.

Please recommend me other things to do in the off time in Sao Paulo and good restaurants. I get bored a lot there LOL.

This trip was amazing. Can't wait to be back to Brazil. The world in terms of mongering has gone so much downhill these days, From FKK Sharks (which still remains my all time top one of the best), to escort agencies in Canada, to Thailand to Japan, to Australia to NZ, to Dubai, Prague, London, Greece and Portugal. The option and the large quantity of girls available in 1 big venue like Scandallo, it beats all other options out there. The girls are 10/10 and much hotter than FKK but only they're not naked which I miss.

Glad Scandallo is still better than most other options available worldwide. I want to get my fill of it and enjoy this while it lasts. The only downside is the 12 HR flight breaking my back, but anything worth having needs some sacrifice. After visiting Scandallo, the things I used to enjoy earlier are no longer pleasurable, escort outcall in Lisbon, no please, escort outcall in Athens nope, Montreal quebecoise incall agency too tough to book highly competitive and even the locals are not able to get it on with beautiful popular girls, and the rest of the girls are ugly. Nothing much left to do in my world mongering career than to split my time between Sao Paulo and Frankfurt.

Will write another report on my next visit to Scandallo.

Great report and lots of good information. I went to Montreal and it was a pretty awful experience. I do not understand how it could be good because you can't see the girl beforehand so there is no chemistry. My first girl was good looking only spoke french (good), next girl was mid and wouldn't let me do any position but missionary and was super restrictive (AWFUL, top 3 worst experience EVER) and the last girl was UGLY. This was from a reputable agency too. My golden rule now is only go with girls you can see in person so Frankfurt FKK and soon Scandallo / boates. I'll report back my experiences.

Also I am very surprised at your bad experience with girls with bad bodies or weird skin. I would have thought Scandallo would have better quality control. Guess its more hit than miss but can still miss a bit.

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3027900]Just got back from a short trip to Scandallo. This was my 2nd visit to Brazil. And it's becoming my favorite go to place for hobbying.

Side rant, Montreal used to be my favorite spot for hot white Quebecoise girls a couple years back but it has gone so much downhill since. Initially I wasn't planning to go to Brazil, but instead wanted to go to Montreal, shorter flight, easier on my body and decent quality of girls but looking at the recent experiences, I swapped it out for Brazil even though it's a 13 HR flight. Looking at the girls before having sex is so much worth it, instead of relying on face blurred pics on an escort agency website. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3027900]Glad Scandallo is still better than most other options available worldwide. I want to get my fill of it and enjoy this while it lasts. The only downside is the 12 HR flight breaking my back, but anything worth having needs some sacrifice. After visiting Scandallo, the things I used to enjoy earlier are no longer pleasurable, escort outcall in Lisbon, no please, escort outcall in Athens nope, Montreal quebecoise incall agency too tough to book highly competitive and even the locals are not able to get it on with beautiful popular girls, and the rest of the girls are ugly. Nothing much left to do in my world mongering career than to split my time between Sao Paulo and Frankfurt. Will write another report on my next visit to Scandallo.[/QUOTE]I've settled for years where you have now. If it's not Brazil, then it's Germany. And vice versa. Headed to FKKLand very, very soon. Hope to bring back my new "spot reports" style I used last time I was in Brazil. Looking forward to more from you and reports on fucking all those attractive Brazilian brancas. That's what I'm talking about! But you need to give those pretty morenas some love too bro! LMAO! Yes sir!

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3027900]Just got back from a short trip to Scandallo. This was my 2nd visit to Brazil. And it's becoming my favorite go to place for hobbying.[/QUOTE]Nice report, OkSwimmer. I have a feeling you are going to soon forget about Frankfurt 😉.

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3027900]
The problem I find with Scandallo is that the 1 HR rooms are too long a time. Coming from the FKK system, I'm naturally used to half hour session and comfortable with that length of time. I could very well get 7-8 rooms on a good day at the FKK but in Scandallo, I'm exhausted after my first room.
[/QUOTE]I used to visit Germany and other European countries few times a year until I visited Brazil in 2019. Since then, almost all my trips are to Brazil. I don't miss FKKs especially the German ones. Only FKK club I consider worth visiting, if I happen to be in Europe, is Globe in Zurich.

I was also used to 30 minutes at FKKs but filling an hour or more is not a problem for me. I just spend a good chunk of that hour kissing, DATY, BJ and other activities before getting to fucking.

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3027900]
Side rant, Montreal used to be my favorite spot for hot white Quebecoise girls a couple years back but it has gone so much downhill since. [/QUOTE]I used to visit before pandemic, but I don't care to visit anymore because of the reason you mentioned, and it is difficult to book popular girls especially when you are there for few days. Why fight over very few popular girls when 100+ or 200+ girls waiting for you at Scandallo?

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3027900]
Day time mongering option, decided to try something new. Abbobora. It was 3 pm in the afternoon, arrived at the location, was confused where to enter. I picked up the phone and spoke Portuguese, than saw another man behind me enter the door on the right, so I followed him. The lady at the reception spoke Portuguese only but hey how difficult can mongering be.

Sat on the couch on front of the door and one by one girls started coming out like it was a magic door. Each of them side kissed me on the cheek and said Tudo Bem, Olivia, Prazzer, their name. And went around the room kissing every guy, with me was a very good looking young man, full on Chad and an older asian guy. The women were a bit rundown not top quality but you get what you pay for it's only 400 BRLs for 1 hour. I was about to give up and leave, while I found Maiyara. Decided to go with her. The rooms of this clinicas are quite nice, not as good as Scandallo but nothing is. The girl gave a great BBBJ and it was fun to see it in the mirror, fucked a bit but felt disgusted, because her pussy lips were not well done and she looked very high mileage. Took an early shower and left before time. Looked at the presentation one more time, a few more prazzers and then the mamasan was like that's it and it's time to go and opened the door for me. I felt they kicked me out, while the Chad waited for an hour and still was hanging in the reception. I guess perks of being a foreigner non-porto that I get shown the door. [/QUOTE]Most of the girls who work there are either high mileage or with kids and that is one reason I stopped visiting it. Another big reason is that sour faced bi*ch in reception. She is all smiles when you choose a girl, but when you don't, she becomes a mean bi*ch with turd face. She behaves like that only with gringos and few other members have reported about it. I can't believe she didn't have little courtesy to let you stay a while considering you already went with a girl. That says it all about her.

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3027900]
I did find a prepaid TIM chip sim from a newsstand, 30 BRLs, 20 days, 11 GB unlimited whatsapp. No CPF, no contracts, just insert the chip dial 144 option 3 option3 connect to English speaking operator, provide fake name, fake passport and fake address and voila you're connected to Brazil.
[/QUOTE]What data speeds did you get? Did you experience any signal issues especially when you are in Scandallo?

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3027900]
Bradesco bank closes at 4 pm, so get your cash early in the day.
[/QUOTE]There are bank locations where you have access to ATMs even after the bank is closed. I withdrew money few times even after midnight at a location close to Mercure Times Square hotel in Moema.

I don't like this club, but I had to visit it once during my trip last month because an overly enthusiastic friend wanted to see it.

This club is very small, smaller than Scandallo restaurant. A $400 entry fee is too much for this place which typically has 30-50 people.

My previous visits were alone, so I didn't notice this. This time, my friend and I bought a bottle of gin and some mixers. I expected the girls to drink that, but all the girls we spoke with requested a different drink. I noticed all the girls at other tables ordered different drinks instead of drinking what the men already had on their tables. For example, a girl would order wine when you had a gin bottle on the table, and might order gin at another table when they had wine on their table. I think the management pushes the girls to not consume what's on the customer's table and instead order something else. This is another deceptive tactic this club uses to maximize consumption. On top of all this, they pressure you for more tips even though they've already added a 10% service charge. There is none of this shit at Scandallo or even at a low-end boete like Casarao.

Anyway, I ended up going with a 23 yo Ana for $R800. Room fee was $R210. In the room I noticed the cloth hangers are on a wall that is completely out of sight from shower or bathroom. Also, both shower and bathroom have frosted doors that are not see-through, so it is very easy for the girls to steal money from your wallet when you are in shower. Luckily, Ana was an honest girl and provided a great service.

Indriver is a good alternative. Thanks.

[QUOTE=IndecentPro;3027695]Thought I'd share another tip. In addition to the fluidity of pricing that you see for the same girls (I've seen dozens of these examples), another thing I'll share is that InDriver is a great alternative to Uber. It is especially good for longer distance journeys or city to city. If you're taking an Uber from GRU in to Moema, I'm getting 120 reals for regular Uber and close to 200 for Uber Black. As an alternative, InDriver is giving me offers for 70 - 90. This is paid in cash so that may be a consideration. But locals can also pay with pix I believe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3028087]I don't like this club, but I had to visit it once during my trip last month because an overly enthusiastic friend wanted to see it.

This club is very small, smaller than Scandallo restaurant. A $400 entry fee is too much for this place which typically has 30-50 people.

My previous visits were alone, so I didn't notice this. This time, my friend and I bought a bottle of gin and some mixers. I expected the girls to drink that, but all the girls we spoke with requested a different drink. I noticed all the girls at other tables ordered different drinks instead of drinking what the men already had on their tables. For example, a girl would order wine when you had a gin bottle on the table, and might order gin at another table when they had wine on their table. I think the management pushes the girls to not consume what's on the customer's table and instead order something else. This is another deceptive tactic this club uses to maximize consumption. On top of all this, they pressure you for more tips even though they've already added a 10% service charge. There is none of this shit at Scandallo or even at a low-end boete like Casarao.

Anyway, I ended up going with a 23 yo Ana for $R800..[/QUOTE]I was at a different club in another Brazilian city, and what the girls told me is that they were strictly forbidden from drinking whatever the customers are drinking, but instead have to order separate. Obviously to keep the money flowing. I'm sure it's the same thing going on at Bomboa that you noticed. And I don't like it either. One of the things I like about Brazil is that, generally speaking, you don't have any of the "buy me a drink" bullshit you find in other countries.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3028081]

Abbobora .

Most of the girls who work there are either high mileage or with kids and that is one reason I stopped visiting it. Another big reason is that sour faced bi*ch in reception. She is all smiles when you choose a girl, but when you don't, she becomes a mean bi*ch with turd face. She behaves like that only with gringos and few other members have reported about it. I can't believe she didn't have little courtesy to let you stay a while considering you already went with a girl. That says it all about her..[/QUOTE]I agree. The one with glasses is a complete b*tch. My last trip a few days ago she forced me out into the pouring rain. Wouldn't let me wait for my Uber inside. What an absolute c*nt. I'm going to do a review on Google Maps.

Miruna and the clinicas around there have grown rapidly. Kamila Werneck, the real one, was apparently wifed up by the owner of a clinica, and given her own casa around the corner from Miruna to manage. The prices quoted (330 r 1 h) have gone up a little in 5-7 years, but the other clinicas in Moema, especially the lower tier once near the metro should be regularly scanned. Those were the late, great ABG's go to, along with that awesome all you can eat sushi place in Japan town near bela vista where ABG would always go with the ISG member he was taking around SP.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/XxM7AxeHfWgg1vrh8[/URL]

Tako Sushi! I guess Vagabundo's memory aid for that is a Mexican food / sushi combination name.

Luum, a all you can eat sushi place is just down the street from Perola Negra at Ave de Pepe 600. Another place on the list of dining / sex spots.

[QUOTE=IndecentPro;3027694]Wanted to share an item I've noticed. There's definitely some overlap in ownership structure or just informal relationships between girls and clinicas which can lead to great deals. For example, yesterday Hanna and Naiara were both working at Sigh Spa with 650 being the going rate each for 1 HR if paid in cash and 685 if paid with card. But today those garotas are at Miruna. The going rate for each of them is 330 HR or 240 for half hour. While I'm not saying Scandallo girls will be in the lower tier clinicas. It seems like there is a lot of fluidity for where they work. Sometimes this can lead to pice discounts of 50% on posted rates from day to day for the same girl.[/QUOTE]

At the opening of new Luminia Spa I did a fantastic hour session with (Kaori or Tokio in 57 friends) and a newbie twenty-year-old morena fresh to the biz. Promotion.

Discounts on threesomes. Luminia is run by the same 57 friends team. The rooms are much better more modern and clean, an upgrade compared to 57 Friends. As a recently opened spot in Moema, the Forista discount and promotion was in full effect. The bar area and sofa lobby are brand spanking new. Good receptionist as well.

Afterward the session. Walked over to Enjoy Spa to see the team under new management. Nothing really changed. There is a mature blonde Slavic looking garota that can Deep throat until your toes curl. Down she goes. She impales her throat on the dick, leaves it there, no gag reflex a damn pro, looks up with her green eyes and flowing blonde hair. Greedy of anticipation. I had to repeat two and three hour session before writing a gpguia review.

Yes receptionist at Abbobara is terrible write a review on GPGuia. The management team reads those reviews. Abbobara in general has lost its hot line-up of Barbie blondes.

Two relaxing hangout spots you are welcome to drink, talk with the garotas is 57 friends, Tangara and Espaço Vergueiro. Oh that's three kkk.

It's fvcking amazing to see new clinicas pop up in Moema every week. With those swingy clubs in Moema, Hotbar, Ashe Engima and dozens and dozens of clinicas seem like a easy walking neighborhood.

Did you end up paying the tip and how much if you did? I don't plan on bringing tipping culture to Brazil but I still want to check out this place because total cost with girl seems to be cheaper than Scandallo. I assume I will find something to my liking here at least for one night.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3028087]On top of all this, they pressure you for more tips even though they've already added a 10% service charge.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3028087]I don't like this club, but I had to visit it once during my trip last month because an overly enthusiastic friend wanted to see it.

This club is very small, smaller than Scandallo restaurant. A $400 entry fee is too much for this place which typically has 30-50 people.

My previous visits were alone, so I didn't notice this. This time, my friend and I bought a bottle of gin and some mixers. I expected the girls to drink that, but all the girls we spoke with requested a different drink. I noticed all the girls at other tables ordered different drinks instead of drinking what the men already had on their tables. For example, a girl would order wine when you had a gin bottle on the table and might order gin at another table when they had wine on their table. I think the management pushes the girls to not consume what's on the customer's table and instead order something else. This is another deceptive tactic this club uses to maximize consumption. On top of all this, they pressure you for more tips even though they've already added a 10% service charge. There is none of this shit at Scandallo or even at a low-end boete like Casarao. [/QUOTE]I will grant you that Bomboa is definitely not Scandallo, but I am surprised you don't like the club because I do. First off, Scandallo is a huge nightclub with live entertainment and a restaurant. Bomboa is kind of like an intimate supper club with live entertainment. They are not in the same league.

2nd, I like Bomboa girls even though Scandallo has at least 4 x as many girls which includes a much larger number of what I would consider attractive and doable girls. In statistical terms the mean or average of Scandallo girl's physical looks is to the right of the mean of Bomboa girl's physical looks. Witch translates into Scan has a higher percentage and a larger number of doable, good-looking girls than Bomboa, but that does not mean there are not some very attractive Bomboa girls to hook up with. There are and I have met a lot of nice girls in Bomboa, many of whom I concede I probably would not have hooked up with if I saw them in Scandallo, but I have also met a few really great Bomboa girls who could definitely hold their own against most Scandallo girls and who I would have chosen if I saw them in Scandallo. Thus, whenever I go to Bomboa, I set my sites a little lower than I do when I go to Scandallo, play the odds, and with a little luck I find what I am looking for and once in a while a find a star; a Scandallo quality tier 1 girl.

Bomboa girls are also very nice and appear to be more down-to-earth, probably a little older and more needy. I have never been robbed and honestly I would be stunned if it happened to me because I know the amount of cash I have in my pocket when I go upstairs and I always pay after, so if some girl were dumb enough to try to steal from me, I would know it and believe me I would make a ruckus and she would get banned from the club. I just can't see it happening in Bomboa.

So, in summary I like Bomboa for variety, a different club experience, the neighborly friendly vibe and good girls. I usually stay in SP between 3 to 6 weeks per visit, so I usually like / want to mix things up a little.

I have met a few great girls here (good looking and great in bed) as I stated above and in a recent post of mine concerning "true 3-ways" (bisexual 3-ways). My 2 favorite Bomboa girls are lookers, and they would definitely ask and receive more money from their customers if they worked in Scan. My guess is these 2 prefer being big fish in a small pond rather than small fish in the ocean. KKK.

Everybody knows my name in Bomboa vs only a few know me by name in Scandallo. Now maybe that is my fault, but that is how it is. A smaller, more intimate place is more intimate. The main waiter (Marco), for example, knows me, knows where I like to sit and what I like to drink and when. He takes really good care of me. One time he helped me out when I aborted a session with a girl over BBBJ nonperformance. I was not charged for the room, or the girl and the girl was told to go in no uncertain terms to go the other side of the bar.

Marco never hit me up for a tip ever. And I am one of those guys who do not want to pollute the no tipping culture of SP bordellos, but I have given Marco tips on my last nights in Bomboa for overall exemplary trip service. For example, on one of my 6-week trips back in 2022, I must have gone to Bomboa at least 8 times and so I gave him 200 BR as I was leaving the bordell ofor the last time that trip and he acted like he appreciated it. He is a standup guy and he understands his job.

Then around 2 years ago Marco passed me on to one of his subordinate waiters and this guy constantly asked for tips. He became really annoying and I did not like it one bit. I posted a report about that waiter at the time. Anyway, I never tipped the guy because the first night he had his hand out, I told him that if he took good care of me and never bothered me for a tip again, I would take care of him on my last night in town. But he never stopped hitting me up for a tip and he never really did anything of value for me, so I gave him nothing and when I returned to Bomboa, on my next trip, I told Marco I wanted him to be my waiter. End of story.

The bottom line is I like Bomboa although I like Scandallo more. I think most punters would agree. But on some of my trips including my most recent one, I have stayed at a hotel 2 1/2 blocks away. It is hard not to go there when you can see the bordello across the street and a little down the road from your hotel balcony and everybody there knows your name.

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3027900]

Side question. What restaurants do you guys recommend?

Please recommend me other things to do in the off time in Sao Paulo and good restaurants. I get bored a lot there LOL. [/QUOTE]Restaurant recommendations can be found on the, Brazilian Gastronomy tread [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4379-Brazilian-Gastronomy[/URL].
I encourage everyone to post Restaurant recommendations / reviews in this section.

Off time suggestions:
1.Attend Sporting events, Musical events
2. Shopping
3. Get a table at a good outside or mall restaurant and people watch
4. Tours - Tourist attractions
5. Sleep
6. [URL] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPSVCVFgZng[/URL]
7. [URL]https://youtu.be/Z6lFfHURPXc?si=kys9DE5MVmP4kwcZ[/URL]
8. YouTube videos provide some suggestions.
9. Trip Advisor has suggestions
10.Find a mall or significant attraction in every major neighborhood to visit.
11. Cultural events, museums, Movie Theater,
12. Get one of your Favorites to show you the city

Thanks for the clinica update. I will have to check out Lumina Spa.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3028272]At the opening of new Luminia Spa I did a fantastic hour session with (Kaori or Tokio in 57 friends) and a newbie twenty-year-old morena fresh to the biz. Promotion.

Discounts on threesomes. Luminia is run by the same 57 friends team. The rooms are much better more modern and clean, an upgrade compared to 57 Friends. As a recently opened spot in Moema, the Forista discount and promotion was in full effect. The bar area and sofa lobby are brand spanking new. Good receptionist as well.

Two relaxing hangout spots you are welcome to drink, talk with the garotas is 57 friends, Tangara and Espao Vergueiro. Oh that's three kkk.

It's fvcking amazing to see new clinicas pop up in Moema every week. With those swingy clubs in Moema, Hotbar, Ashe Engima and dozens and dozens of clinicas seem like a easy walking neighborhood.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=UniversalX;3028333]Restaurant recommendations can be found on the, Brazilian Gastronomy tread [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4379-Brazilian-Gastronomy[/URL].
I encourage everyone to post Restaurant recommendations / reviews in this section. [/QUOTE]I agree. Restaurant recommendations should be posted in Brazilian Gastronomy thread. Anyway, here is a short list of my favorite things to do in SP when I am not mongering:

1. Walking about various neighborhoods and parks.

2. Eating great food.

3. Hanging out by my hotel swimming pool.

[QUOTE=EyesWide;3028276]Did you end up paying the tip and how much if you did? I don't plan on bringing tipping culture to Brazil but I still want to check out this place because total cost with girl seems to be cheaper than Scandallo. I assume I will find something to my liking here at least for one night.[/QUOTE]Yes, $R40 to round it up.

I have no plans to visit this club again (which is why I took the unfinished bottle with me when I left the club), considering all their shady business practices. Yes, girls at Scan may cost a couple of hundred reals more and the rooms are a bit more expensive, but Scan has much more choice, and the rooms are bigger and nicer. If you buy a bottle at Scan like I do even when I visit alone, the drinks are going to be cheaper because you can ask the girls to drink from the bottle you already have and not buy separate drinks, like you have to at Bamboa.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3028387]Yes, $R40 to round it up.

I have no plans to visit this club again (which is why I took the unfinished bottle with me when I left the club), considering all their shady business practices. Yes, girls at Scan may cost a couple of hundred reals more and the rooms are a bit more expensive, but Scan has much more choice, and the rooms are bigger and nicer. If you buy a bottle at Scan like I do even when I visit alone, the drinks are going to be cheaper because you can ask the girls to drink from the bottle you already have and not buy separate drinks, like you have to at Bamboa.[/QUOTE]Yeah at Scan all the girls love "Gin Tropical" which is Red Bull Tropical and Gin. A bottle of Tanquery and four or five Red Bull Tropical on ice and you are up for a great garota party.

New Marriott opened in June. Anyone stay there yet?

[QUOTE=DSB4891;3028440]New Marriott {The Westin} opened in June. Anyone stay there yet?[/QUOTE]I haven't stayed there. I was considering it for upcoming next trip, but the rooms seem a little small and the Marriott web page did not have photos of the pool (never a good sign), so I chose the W instead even though it costs substantially more Marriott points. The W just looked a lot nicer.

P.S. I like the location of the Weston and I have stayed many times at the nearby Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi and the Marriott Exec Apartment Hotel. I hope this helps.

A. H.

I'll report back what I experience. So it seems everyone says Tuesday to Thursday are busiest days in clubs. Why is it more busy during these days than say Friday and Saturday like in America? Also would going to Bomboa or Gaugin or something similar on a Monday be a bad idea because they are already smaller clubs so less girls to choose from?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3028302]I will grant you that Bomboa is definitely not Scandallo, but I am surprised you don't like the club because I do. First off, Scandallo is a huge nightclub with live entertainment and a restaurant. Bomboa is kind of like an intimate supper club with live entertainment. They are not in the same league.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EyesWide;3028480]I'll report back what I experience. So it seems everyone says Tuesday to Thursday are busiest days in clubs. Why is it more busy during these days than say Friday and Saturday like in America? Also would going to Bomboa or Gaugin or something similar on a Monday be a bad idea because they are already smaller clubs so less girls to choose from?[/QUOTE]It's because So Paulo is a business city and lots of traveling incomers or entertaining clients midweek.

If have never been before then Monday at any of the clubs is going to be fine. It's still great by worldwide standards. But if u have already been to scan then yes you will be disappointed. There's a reason it's the biggest and the best.

Ps when are u in sp?

I was thinking of visiting for New Years. Places like Scandallo. Is New Years a good time? Or no?

[QUOTE=EyesWide;3028480]I'll report back what I experience. So it seems everyone says Tuesday to Thursday are busiest days in clubs. Why is it more busy during these days than say Friday and Saturday like in America? Also would going to Bomboa or Gaugin or something similar on a Monday be a bad idea because they are already smaller clubs so less girls to choose from?[/QUOTE]Well knowing the culture, weekends are for family weekdays are easier to have "prolongued meetings followed by dinner with clients", at least Tuesday goes into that category and the girls love because the potential for business owners / ritcher clients is greater.

Friday and Saturday are more for the younger single guys.

[QUOTE=OhioTraveler20;3028494]I was thinking of visiting for New Years. Places like Scandallo. Is New Years a good time? Or no?[/QUOTE]I was there on the 4 January this year had a really good time as always but it was slow and with much less girls than usual.

Even the independent that you get on the internet sites lot's go back home for Christmas and start working after new year or get hired for new years eve.

I did Rio more a end of the year location, had a couple girls before end of the year and hired one of my Sao Paulo girls for the new years eve up to my trip back to Sao Paulo.

Will be in SP next week. Will be at Scandallo Tuesday most likely.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3028482]It's because So Paulo is a business city and lots of traveling incomers or entertaining clients midweek.

If have never been before then Monday at any of the clubs is going to be fine. It's still great by worldwide standards. But if u have already been to scan then yes you will be disappointed. There's a reason it's the biggest and the best.

Ps when are u in sp?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EyesWide;3028696]Will be in SP next week. Will be at Scandallo Tuesday most likely.[/QUOTE]If you want to send me a message I can give you my deets and we can meet up.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3028302]Witch translates into Scan has a higher percentage and a larger number of doable, good-looking girls than Bomboa, but that does not mean there are not some very attractive Bomboa girls to hook up with. [/QUOTE]Glad to hear you like the club and it works for you. Unfortunately, this club doesn't work for me as it has more negatives than positives, based on my preferences. Most of my trips are week-long, so I prefer places with more selection to increase my odds of finding one I like. I am typically interested in 10-15% of the available girls at any place. This translates to less than half a dozen girls to choose from at Bamboa. Then, factoring in that some of them might be unavailable (occupied with other men or in the room), I will be left with very slim pickings. I rather go to a candy store like Scandallo or Casarao 😁.

I'm not opposed to tipping, but I don't like being targeted as a foreigner and being pestered for it. I do reward good service from time to time, which I do at Scandallo and other places.

Which one is better in terms of quality of the rooms, service, neighborhood and safety?

I usually stay in Moema or Jardim Paulista. Just want to try new ones.

PS: I have read some of the post about Pullman and Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi. Just curious how they compare to each other, and which one would one choose.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3028805]Which one is better in terms of quality of the rooms, service, neighborhood and safety?

I usually stay in Moema or Jardim Paulista. Just want to try new ones.

PS: I have read some of the post about Pullman and Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi. Just curious how they compare to each other, and which one would one choose.[/QUOTE]I stayed at the Pullman some years ago but honestly wasn't thrilled w the location. My fave in that part of the city by far is Mercure Ibirapuera Privilege. Like all Mercures I've stayed at it's girl friendly. But best feature is the restaurant on the first level. Lovely outdoor tables for cocktails w your girl. Really good sushi just a block away. One of my faves in the Moema area.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3028802]Glad to hear you like the club and it works for you. Unfortunately, this club doesn't work for me as it has more negatives than positives, based on my preferences. Most of my trips are week-long, so I prefer places with more selection to increase my odds of finding one I like. I am typically interested in 10-15% of the available girls at any place. This translates to less than half a dozen girls to choose from at Bamboa. Then, factoring in that some of them might be unavailable (occupied with other men or in the room), I will be left with very slim pickings. I rather go to a candy store like Scandallo or Casarao 😁.

I'm not opposed to tipping, but I don't like being targeted as a foreigner and being pestered for it. I do reward good service from time to time, which I do at Scandallo and other places.[/QUOTE]Yep, it always comes down to that 10%. At Scandallo (Tuesday through Thursday night) this means I can always rely on their being at least 15 to 20 girls that look really good to me. Really Good to Me! At Bomboa (Tuesday through Thursday night) this means I can usually count on only 3 or 4 girls that look good to me and on occasion I might meet a real looker. That is a big difference, but on a 6-week trip I can afford to and want to go fishing in different ponds occasionally and I set my sights accordingly. If I were on a 1-week visit I would stick with Scandallo and with seeing a couple of my Scandallo favorite repeat girls at my hotel.

I like the variety of girls found in Casarao too. A different sample set of SP girls seem go to Casarao vs Bomboa vs Scandallo. My main issue with Casarao is the lateness of that scene (midnight and later), so I usually only go there after I have said good night to my prime-time girl and don't want to call it a night. Many is the time I have left Bomboa (happy) and headed to Casarao for a 2nd girl. This does not usually happen when I am at Scandallo because after Scan girl #1, the quality of chicks seems to have gotten even better around midnight, so why leave when I am on a hot streak. KKK. I really dig those Scandallo 2-fer nights.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3028820]I stayed at the Pullman some years ago but honestly wasn't thrilled w the location. My fave in that part of the city by far is Mercure Ibirapuera Privilege. Like all Mercures I've stayed at it's girl friendly. But best feature is the restaurant on the first level. Lovely outdoor tables for cocktails w your girl. Really good sushi just a block away. One of my faves in the Moema area.[/QUOTE]It's amazing how two people can have very different opinions and experiences with the same hotel. I stayed at the Mercure Ibirapuera Privilege the first time I went to Sao Paulo and hated it. Didn't like my room (drafty with poor climate control, safe didn't work but they brought another one, horrible internet connectivity), terrible customer service (including room service), the restaurant environment was OK but didn't like the food, dumb asshole taxi drivers out front who couldn't seem to follow simple directions. Maybe it was just a bad one off, but I never gave them another chance after that. Discovered the Mercure Times Square on subsequent trips. Also in Moema, but even better situated if you ask me. Quiet (important given the air traffic in the area) but no restaurant, which I don't care about since there are plenty of places around to eat (including grocery stores) in easy walking distance. Also only a short walk to a big Bradesco branch and the Ibirapuera Shopping Mall just a little further away. Even found a nearby barbershop. The last time in Sampa, I stayed at the Wyndham in Moema. Never again as the air traffic noise was too constant and loud! For my next trip, I'm looking to move out of Moema altogether for a different experience.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3028805]Which one is better in terms of quality of the rooms, service, neighborhood and safety?

I usually stay in Moema or Jardim Paulista. Just want to try new ones.

PS: I have read some of the post about Pullman and Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi. Just curious how they compare to each other, and which one would one choose.[/QUOTE]I have stayed (many times) at the Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi, and I have thought about staying at the Grand Mercure Sao Paulo Ibirapuera but never did. The Pullman does not interest me much because it seems a little pricey for what they offer, and the swimming pool does not look great to me. But it is probably a good hotel.

I like the Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi for its location, and that all the rooms are a good size and have balconies. The informal roof top pool is fine. The hotel is super guest friendly, and they serve pretty good buffet breakfasts. In fact their fresh mangos taste better (tree ripened) than those I have had in the Renaissance. No room service at night, however. You can also log into a Netflix or Prime account for entertainment. The only negative is that, as time goes by, this hotel is becoming more expensive although I still like it and will undoubtedly stay there again at some point.

The Grand Mercure Sao Paulo Ibirapuera looks good to me, but most rooms do not have balconies and therefore one has to pay up to get one. Therefore, for me, this is not an inexpensive hotel, but I will probably stay there anyway at some point.

Similar in terms of pricing to the Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi, although the setup is entirely different, is the Marriott Exec Apartment Hotel. It is not a real 5-star hotel, but it's one-bedroom suites are very comfortable, and they all come with balconies, a refrigerator / freezer, a dishwasher, and a microwave. Another plus is its charming neighborhood location 3 blocks from the Ibirapuera parque and close to a pretty good medium priced steak restaurant and a more expensive Michelin guide sushi restaurant as well as a bunch of small little boutiques and other restaurants scattered around nearby. (And 2 blocks from Bomboa, KKK). Another big plus is the very convenient ATM machine located in the back of the lobby and easy Uber drives to the clinicas in the south and Scandallo to the north. The only downside is No room service.

On a more budget friendly level I have stayed at the Clarion Hotel Faria Lima a couple of times and IMHO it is pretty good with a great Itaim Bibi location (so many great restaurants to choose from)! All the rooms have balconies and a good amount of living space. The only negative is there is no room service at night and there is no outdoor pool.

Lastly, I am booked for 5 nights at the Melia Jardim Europa on my next trip. I got a good rate from Capital One on points and my upgraded room has a balcony. I have never stayed at this hotel before but think I will like it on account of its great location within easy walking distance to many great Itaim Bibi restaurants and that it is located halfway between the clinicas and Scandallo. The pool looks ok too. I will post a review after I stay there.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3028805]Which one is better in terms of quality of the rooms, service, neighborhood and safety?

I usually stay in Moema or Jardim Paulista. Just want to try new ones.

PS: I have read some of the post about Pullman and Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi. Just curious how they compare to each other, and which one would one choose.[/QUOTE]It seems that nobody ever stays in Meliã Ibirapuera. I have stayed in Meliā Paulista and many other hotels of this Spanish chain in Spain and I have never been disappointed. There are some girls living in Meliã Ibirapuera which I visited few years ago.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3028820]I stayed at the Pullman some years ago but honestly wasn't thrilled w the location. My fave in that part of the city by far is Mercure Ibirapuera Privilege. Like all Mercures I've stayed at it's girl friendly. But best feature is the restaurant on the first level. Lovely outdoor tables for cocktails w your girl. Really good sushi just a block away. One of my faves in the Moema area.[/QUOTE]I sppose you are talking about Pullman Ibirapuera and not the one in Vila Olimpia.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3028302]The bottom line is I like Bomboa although I like Scandallo more. I think most punters would agree. But on some of my trips including my most recent one, I have stayed at a hotel 2 1/2 blocks away. It is hard not to go there when you can see the bordello across the street and a little down the road from your hotel balcony and everybody there knows your name.[/QUOTE]No doubt the ladies are more beatiful in Scandallo but I have always had more fun in Bomboa, the old one and the "new" one. The old Bomboa was just the right size and the "new" one is quite small, but the party atmosphere is something you don't find in Scandallo. Bomboa is something between Casarao and Scandallo.

[QUOTE=Nordico;3028867]It seems that nobody ever stays in Meli Ibirapuera. I have stayed in Meliā Paulista and many other hotels of this Spanish chain in Spain and I have never been disappointed. There are some girls living in Meli Ibirapuera which I visited few years ago.[/QUOTE]Good to know Melia properties are girlfriendly. Melia Ibirapuera is on my list of hotels to try.

[QUOTE=Muadib69;3028559]Well knowing the culture, weekends are for family weekdays are easier to have "prolongued meetings followed by dinner with clients", at least Tuesday goes into that category and the girls love because the potential for business owners / ritcher clients is greater.

Friday and Saturday are more for the younger single guys.[/QUOTE]There's that and then there's also the fact that many of the GPS have guys and kids themselves to spend the weekend with. Or parents to visit and to pretend a 9 to 5 student life to.

[QUOTE=Nordico;3028870]No doubt the ladies are more beatiful in Scandallo but I have always had more fun in Bomboa, the old one and the "new" one. The old Bomboa was just the right size and the "new" one is quite small, but the party atmosphere is something you don't find in Scandallo. Bomboa is something between Casarao and Scandallo.[/QUOTE]They enlarged the lounge area and added more rooms (more floors) at 222, but yeah it is still smaller than the old one.

Thanks for this great feedback. And for the response on the Westin. Looks interesting but hesitant to book with it being so new.

I stayed at the Renaissance my first time. Loved it and my points covered the entire room stay. The location to action, general hotel atmosphere was really nice.

For my second trip, debating if I stay at the Renaissance again (if it it ain't broke don't fix it). But also weighing if I use my newly built up points to try the W. What do you think?

Also willing to spend the $ on the Marriott Exec apartments as the space looks very appealing. You hit my one concern, no room service. Are late night food delivery options a thing if you have hungry (literally and metaphorically) girls in your room?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3028864]Similar in terms of pricing to the Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi, although the setup is entirely different, is the Marriott Exec Apartment Hotel. It is not a real 5-star hotel, but it's one-bedroom suites are very comfortable, and they all come with balconies, a refrigerator / freezer, a dishwasher, and a microwave. Another plus is its charming neighborhood location 3 blocks from the Ibirapuera parque and close to a pretty good medium priced steak restaurant and a more expensive Michelin guide sushi restaurant as well as a bunch of small little boutiques and other restaurants scattered around nearby. (And 2 blocks from Bomboa, KKK). Another big plus is the very convenient ATM machine located in the back of the lobby and easy Uber drives to the clinicas in the south and Scandallo to the north. The only downside is No room service.[/QUOTE]

Hi. One of my favoirte things to do is camp out up at a bar, watch ufc fights all night. Gamble a litlle bit from my phone, and eat good food and drink in good company.

Does Scandellos typically play the fights. Either PPV, or regular fight nights? There's usually a fight every weekend at this point.

If they don't, any other suggestions in Sao Paulo? Can be a regular sports bar too.

I went out to Casarao and hooked up with a 19-year-old blonde Branca. Plenty of 19 yr to 21 year old garotas in casarao of all backgrounds. "Keli" seemed new to Casarao. We grabbed drinks from next door. Shit fucking cold last night. I had to wait 30 minutes for the larger room number 8 with the stripper pool. Well worth the wait. We agreed on 400 brl for an hour. How can a young sexy garota be a pro dick sucker? In the room, she drops to her knees swallowing all the manhood in her mouth. She didn't let up until I popped the leche in her throat, damn she swallowed it all. I showered and went back on the hunt. I spotted a fucking tall, Amazonian frosted blonde beauty, standing at the back wall next to the stairs. Swaying to music. I think the music upstairs sucks but the garotas like it. She is a curvy, tall blonde models you see in Europe or Dubai that pose on yachts, expensive car and shit on instagram. Nobody was talking to her fine ass. So I did. We had a great conversation over whiskey. I finally threw out my casarao starting number of 350 brl for one hour. She stuck to 500 brl. I responded 450 brl because we will get the bigger room. She agreed. We enter room 2. Open the room door, up the stairs and she starts the Same routine as the other garota. No need for a shower she immediately drops to her knees to start slurping away before I can get any clothes off. Kkk. I did a quick solid leche on her tongue, she licked her lips wanting more. She never did stop, never rested not once to rest, nope she was determined to get that second leche in her mouth and swallow. Damn, this tall fine ass blonde model was determined to get the second shot out of me. I obliged with one last solid thick leche deep in her mouth, and a few shakes on her pretty face. Shit Never occurred to me some garotas want two shots on goal too!! Kkkkk it was already 5 am time to uber back to the moema pad. She had kids to take to school and will meet up at my place for a daytime round.

UFC makes boil Vila Madalena everytime a brazilian is on the list. Vila Madalena has a ton of bars. You'll find many videos like this one.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNrRM5790Hg[/URL]

Bomboa, Cafe Photo and of course Scandallo have big LCDs to mix sport while playing the game.

[QUOTE=DSB4891;3029056]Hi. One of my favoirte things to do is camp out up at a bar, watch ufc fights all night. Gamble a litlle bit from my phone, and eat good food and drink in good company.

Does Scandellos typically play the fights. Either PPV, or regular fight nights? There's usually a fight every weekend at this point.

If they don't, any other suggestions in Sao Paulo? Can be a regular sports bar too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;3029089]UFC makes boil Vila Madalena everytime a brazilian is on the list. Vila Madalena has a ton of bars. You'll find many videos like this one.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNrRM5790Hg[/URL]

Bomboa, Cafe Photo and of course Scandallo have big LCDs to mix sport while playing the game.[/QUOTE]Yea Scandallos does. It will come second to soccer though. If soccer is on, ufc won't be. Even ppv.

Nice report. I was at Casarao last night as well. I did the takeout. 1000 for Isabelli. She said she was from Minas and because I have no clue, I believed her. We left the club at 2 and she agreed to stay until 6. In my younger years I would have managed 3-4 shots in that time but this girl was trouble from the beginning. I should have cut her loose in Casarao but she was so gd hot. As soon as we got in my uber, she asked for payment and to settle up. I told her half now and half later but she was adamant. If we were still in casarao, I would have walked. Anyways. Instead of your experience where your girl was determined to get that shot via BJ, Isabelli wanted to put the rubber on after 2-3 minutes. Basically had to keep asking her to keep going. She wanted to smoke MJ in the room which is fine but didn't have a lighter. And since Rappi doesn't deliver at 3 am, that was a bummer. She also apparently only had 1 condom so I cut her loose at around 4. This was on Saturday night. I want to say she was about 5'6, with a slim figure and small tits but a nice round ass. She had joker and Harley Quinn tattooed on her ass. I was also there Sunday night. Just got back. Noticeably slower tonight with the side venue that has the water feature in the center that's on the lower floor closed off entirely. And even with that closed, it felt like fewer people in the remaining part of the bar. Also saw two girls with a unique set up. One was walking the other with a metal leash around the club. They were average so I guess they tried to find a way to stand out. Here for a few more days. If any members want a wingman, let me know.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3029074]I went out to Casarao and hooked up with a 19-year-old blonde Branca. Plenty of 19 yr to 21 year old garotas in casarao of all backgrounds. "Keli" seemed new to Casarao. We grabbed drinks from next door. Shit fucking cold last night. I had to wait 30 minutes for the larger room number 8 with the stripper pool. Well worth the wait. We agreed on 400 brl for an hour. How can a young sexy garota be a pro dick sucker? In the room, she drops to her knees swallowing all the manhood in her mouth. She didn't let up until I popped the leche in her throat, damn she swallowed it all. I showered and went back on the hunt. I spotted a fucking tall, Amazonian frosted blonde beauty, standing at the back wall next to the stairs. Swaying to music. I think the music upstairs sucks but the garotas like it. She is a curvy, tall blonde models you see in Europe or Dubai that pose on yachts, expensive car and shit on instagram. Nobody was talking to her fine ass. So I did. We had a great conversation over whiskey..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IndecentPro;3029124]Nice report. I was at Casarao last night as well. I did the takeout. 1000 for Isabelli. She said she was from Minas and because I have no clue, I Here for a few more days. If any members want a wingman, let me know.[/QUOTE]Oh man, sorry to hear about your experience. That ruins the experience. For new garotas I've never met before in casarao and they want payment upfront, my MO is to take two casaro Garotas at the same time for a 30-minute room. I chose a favorite that is a repeat. We sessioned already in the past. I introduce her to the new hot garota. In addition to servicing me her job is to explain the shit I like and how I want to roll to the newbie gal. No payment up front, plenty on the back-end. Do this not that blah blah all the garota gossip. The repeat garota will wave me off of the new one going to be a problem or had her own rules. Or too stuck up to do all the nasty stuff I want. It's not perfect but it has lessened the bullshit issues or stupid crap when the repeat garota explains everything while vouching they both are going to get paid and have a fvcking great time if she goes with the flow. I have paid up from when I run out of cash Kkl using my repeat garota Mercado Libre card payment on her phone. She touch screen the card info. I already know her real name & info from previous sessions. She transfers the payment by Pix to the newbie garota. I always still have small cash but use 20 brl or 50 brl as a cash reward for getting from the twenty-year to do shit even more fvcking wild that she would be ashamed to tell anyone Kkk. I met the 19 year old branca blond and tall ass xAmazon blonde this way but leave those details out of my MO out of reports.

I know bros on this board like to have a wingman or meet up for drinks and chit chat. I roll different, prefer to have a local brasilian garota as a wing-garota instead. I prefer to have drinks, talk. Music conversation with repeat Casarao or Scandallo garotas my side. I choose other Garotas and they help to reduce the room.

Bullshit.

[QUOTE=IndecentPro;3029124] I did the takeout. 1000 for Isabelli. She said she was from Minas and because I have no clue, I believed her. We left the club at 2 and she agreed to stay until 6. In my younger years I would have managed 3-4 shots in that time but this girl was trouble from the beginning. I should have cut her loose in Casarao but she was so gd hot. As soon as we got in my uber, she asked for payment and to settle up. I told her half now and half later but she was adamant. If we were still in casarao, I would have walked. Anyways. Instead of your experience where your girl was determined to get that shot via BJ, Isabelli wanted to put the rubber on after 2-3 minutes. Basically had to keep asking her to keep going. She wanted to smoke MJ in the room which is fine but didn't have a lighter. And since Rappi doesn't deliver at 3 am, that was a bummer. She also apparently only had 1 condom so I cut her loose at around 4. This was on Saturday night. I want to say she was about 5'6, with a slim figure and small tits but a nice round ass. She had joker and Harley Quinn tattooed on her ass.[/QUOTE]I never accept prepayment when I am taking a girl to my place. Last month, one pretty Casarao girl (I think her name is Agatha) asked for prepayment after I ordered Uber. I told her she would get her money before she left in the morning, but she didn't agree, so I cancelled the deal. I wasn't sure if Casarao would refund my takeout fee, but, to my surprise, they did. I went back in and found another girl 😁 I had cancelled the deals even after reaching the hotel because of girl insisted on prepayment. Sometimes it may work out if you prepay, but it usually doesn't.

I will lookout for those tats during my future trips!

[QUOTE=TheCane;3028851]It's amazing how two people can have very different opinions and experiences with the same hotel. I stayed at the Mercure Ibirapuera Privilege the first time I went to Sao Paulo and hated it. Didn't like my room (drafty with poor climate control, safe didn't work but they brought another one, horrible internet connectivity), terrible customer service (including room service), the restaurant environment was OK but didn't like the food, dumb asshole taxi drivers out front who couldn't seem to follow simple directions. Maybe it was just a bad one off, but I never gave them another chance after that. Discovered the Mercure Times Square on subsequent trips. Also in Moema, but even better situated if you ask me. Quiet (important given the air traffic in the area) but no restaurant, which I don't care about since there are plenty of places around to eat (including grocery stores) in easy walking distance. Also only a short walk to a big Bradesco branch and the Ibirapuera Shopping Mall just a little further away. Even found a nearby barbershop. The last time in Sampa, I stayed at the Wyndham in Moema. Never again as the air traffic noise was too constant and loud! For my next trip, I'm looking to move out of Moema altogether for a different experience.[/QUOTE]Mercure Ibirapuera Privilege is newer than Mercure Times Square, so it had bit modern decor, but it has issues.

Rooms are smaller. Air conditioner unit is loud, and it is right above the bed. Like most Mercure's, the windows are not soundproofed, so you hear traffic and plane noise.

[QUOTE=DSB4891;3028993] I stayed at the Renaissance my first time. Loved it and my points covered the entire room stay. The location to action, general hotel atmosphere was really nice.

For my second trip, debating if I stay at the Renaissance again (if it it ain't broke don't fix it). But also weighing if I use my newly built up points to try the W. What do you think?

Also willing to spend the $ on the Marriott Exec apartments as the space looks very appealing. You hit my one concern, no room service. Are late night food delivery options a thing if you have hungry (literally and metaphorically) girls in your room?[/QUOTE]I was in a similar position as you; I have stayed at the Rennaissance many times and like it there. I have also stayed at the JW which is a slightly more elegant higher-class hotel, but it's the location is way out the way, so one time was enough for me. So the Marriott W Hotel looks pretty good to me! Their King Deluxe room is larger than the King room at the Rennaissance, if memory serves, and for the dates of my 5-night reservation, the W was actually 10,000 Marriott pts less, and it is a spanking new hotel, so I decided to give it a try. It's no biggie for me if it turns out that I prefer the Rennaissance. I like trying out quality hotels in different city locations. It turned out that I preferred the Renaissance over the JW, but I still enjoyed my stay at the JW and I have no regrets having stayed there on points.

Like I said in another post; the Marriot Executive Apartment hotel is not a 5-star hotel, but it is a very comfortable, low-key hotel, and I do like their hotel rooms with a living room and a balcony which is especially nice for entertaining girls. There is no question that not having room service is a downer which why I mentioned it in my review of the Marriott Executive, the Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi, as well as the Clarion Hotel Faria Lima. Thus, whenever I stay at any of these 3 hotels, I make do, meaning my favorite girl and I order delivery, or we go out for dinner which we do anyway at least 60% of the time because after a night or two room service at any hotel gets old. Our favorite restaurants are Nakka in either Jardin or Itaim Bibi, Kosushi, and Restaurante Banzeiro. Both Nakka restaurants know us well and the matre de' at either location knows our preferred table. I really dig Banzeiro too. Their Tambaqui Ribs (Amazon River fish ribs) are killer!

Great perspective, and yes we are almost in the same exact position. I am leaning towards booking Marriott Exec this time and saving my points for another trip.

Two last questions and I hope one day to reciprocate.

1. How strict are the exec apartments about girls smoking on the balcony? I know it's a nonsmoking hotel, just hard to imagine they enforce it if folks are careful and keep it outside.

2. I like to sauna after a night of drinking. Where would you recommend going if the hotel doesn't have one? I guess, being a Marriott member I could pay a fee at the W, or Renaissance and use theirs. Curious if you have a perspective on that.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3029262]I was in a similar position as you; I have stayed at the Rennaissance many times and like it there. I have also stayed at the JW which is a slightly more elegant higher-class hotel, but it's the location is way out the way, so one time was enough for me. So the Marriott W Hotel looks pretty good to me! Their King Deluxe room is larger than the King room at the Rennaissance, if memory serves, and for the dates of my 5-night reservation, the W was actually 10,000 Marriott pts less, and it is a spanking new hotel, so I decided to give it a try. It's no biggie for me if it turns out that I prefer the Rennaissance. I like trying out quality hotels in different city locations. It turned out that I preferred the Renaissance over the JW, but I still enjoyed my stay at the JW and I have no regrets having stayed there on points.[/QUOTE]

Fish ribs?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3029262]I was in a similar position as you; I have stayed at the Rennaissance many times and like it there. I have also stayed at the JW which is a slightly more elegant higher-class hotel, but it's the location is way out the way, so one time was enough for me. So the Marriott W Hotel looks pretty good to me! Their King Deluxe room is larger than the King room at the Rennaissance, if memory serves, and for the dates of my 5-night reservation, the W was actually 10,000 Marriott pts less, and it is a spanking new hotel, so I decided to give it a try. It's no biggie for me if it turns out that I prefer the Rennaissance. I like trying out quality hotels in different city locations. It turned out that I preferred the Renaissance over the JW, but I still enjoyed my stay at the JW and I have no regrets having stayed there on points.

Like I said in another post; the Marriot Executive Apartment hotel is not a 5-star hotel, but it is a very comfortable, low-key hotel, and I do like their hotel rooms with a living room and a balcony which is especially nice for entertaining girls. There is no question that not having room service is a downer which why I mentioned it in my review of the Marriott Executive, the Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi, as well as the Clarion Hotel Faria Lima. Thus, whenever I stay at any of these 3 hotels, I make do, meaning my favorite girl and I order delivery, or we go out for dinner which we do anyway at least 60% of the time because after a night or two room service at any hotel gets old. Our favorite restaurants are Nakka in either Jardin or Itaim Bibi, Kosushi, and Restaurante Banzeiro. Both Nakka restaurants know us well and the matre de' at either location knows our preferred table. I really dig Banzeiro too. Their Tambaqui Ribs (Amazon River fish ribs) are killer![/QUOTE]

Wing garota is very smart!

[QUOTE=Tochka;3029198]Oh man, sorry to hear about your experience. That ruins the experience. For new garotas I've never met before in casarao and they want payment upfront, my MO is to take two casaro Garotas at the same time for a 30-minute room. I chose a favorite that is a repeat. We sessioned already in the past. I introduce her to the new hot garota. In addition to servicing me her job is to explain the shit I like and how I want to roll to the newbie gal. No payment up front, plenty on the back-end. Do this not that blah blah all the garota gossip. The repeat garota will wave me off of the new one going to be a problem or had her own rules. Or too stuck up to do all the nasty stuff I want. It's not perfect but it has lessened the bullshit issues or stupid crap when the repeat garota explains everything while vouching they both are going to get paid and have a fvcking great time if she goes with the flow. I have paid up from when I run out of cash Kkl using my repeat garota Mercado Libre card payment on her phone. She touch screen the card info. I already know her real name & info from previous sessions. She transfers the payment by Pix to the newbie garota. I always still have small cash but use 20 brl or 50 brl as a cash reward for getting from the twenty-year to do shit even more fvcking wild that she would be ashamed to tell anyone Kkk. I met the 19 year old branca blond and tall ass xAmazon blonde this way but leave those details out of my MO out of reports.[/QUOTE]

Sao Paulo where I am staying definitely feels like a first world city. Though I also see the large wealth gap. I've known about Brazil for a while now but had the impression that people would be darker skinned and its unsafe but a great conversation with someone in Frankfurt convinced me to come.

I will say to get the most out of this place you need to know Portuguese. I prefer to talk with the girls but harder with translator in loud club. So far my impressions.

Staying at an Airbnb and unless you plan to entertain girls in your place, it is a much more economical option.

Went to a clinica massagem. Taj mahal. Good experience, girl did everything I asked. I still prefer to talk in person first to see exactly my type and to build that rapport. Probably why I've soured a bit on the wham bam thank you mam nature of FKKs.

Casarao. I liked the place, and found an attractive girl and can see the value in this place. Did a room in the hotel and while room was small, I did like the ceiling mirror. Was a hot angle you typically don't see. Room wasn't dirty like I was expecting, honestly was fine to me just small and not great lighting. There is an all mirror room in FKK shark in the middle area that is incredible but there is no ac there so it's hot.

Bomboa. I can see both sides of why people like and dislike this. As with all places you adapt to the caliber of hotness of girl in the place kind of like a male version of hypergamy. Funny how girls all chase the hot guys and here I'm looking for the hottest girl in club and passing on otherwise attractive girls. Club is small and kind of dark so I had a couple instances where girls looked good far away but up close wasn't hot enough. I did a room with a girl and it would have been perfect except she ruined the mood at beginning by asking for payment upfront. Still a good time but not as good of a time. I really don't understand why girls do stupid shit like that when the room is in the club and not Saida.

Long-time lurker, just made an account as I'm seeking advice (search results yielded nothing), and I figured you fine gentlemen would know best.

In an attempt to make this short and sweet, my question is this: What city would you recommend to a virgin who is new to the hobby? I'd like to find providers who are 'virgin-friendly' and not ambush them with my lack of experience.

Highly motivated to learn Spanish or Portuguese. I'll be living in the LatAm country for 6 months. Attracted to fit Latinas who are energetic and uninhibited sexually. Who isn't?

Not that concerned with nightlife; something I'll occasionally partake in. Aim to monger weekly, date, and (hopefully) find a group to fall into.

Does Sau Paulo fit the bill for a rookie? What do you recommend?

Sup gang, just got done with a 7 day stay in Sao Paulo. Unfortunately on a very tight schedule because 90% was a little personal business. Surreal being here in person after lurking so many years. Thanks everyone so much for the incredible information in this thread (special shout outs to guys like Axel, Nounce, Bearsi, Steve 9696, Chicago85, Vagabundo, Mr. Enternational, Hidden Eye, ATexGuy, etc. Sorry for anyone I missed); not just from a hobby perspective but this forum is so informational & the reason I felt confident with the trip in regards Uber, location, etc. (never in my wildest dreams would've considered Brazil before ISG). You have an amazing city.

Location:

Stayed in Moema, very nice Manhattan type vibe area (the domestic airport situation didn't bother me whatsoever), I honestly thought getting to see all the planes land and shit was a pretty cool view. The airport noise is super loud, but honestly all I cared about was safety and being close to safe Bradesco banks. Lot's of beautiful women everywhere. The architecture in this city is so amazing. The city can feel somewhat dangerous, but I thankfully had 0 negative interactions whatsoever personally. But I definitely made sure to move in a way where I went mostly unnoticed. Basic common sense stuff like maybe splurge a little more on Uber Black when you're waiting at a fucking bank (it really wasn't that much more expensive than regular Uber but super worth it), scope out some areas on Google Maps street view beforehand so you're not looking for the entrance like a lost deer after you're dropped off somewhere. This has been mentioned on the forum hundreds of times, but friendly reminder. Don't feel pressured by the "Uber" drivers and taxi's who wait right outside the airport insisting they'll hook you up. I personally would always recommend ordering off the actual Uber map so you can always follow the live map to make sure those dudes don't secretly take you somewhere malicious or the chances of scam increase. But hey, that's just me. Also thankfully most of our top spots happen to be in pretty good areas, most likely because this industry brings in a lot of fucking money.

The Palms:

DEFINITELY made sure to hit up The Palms which is truly an amazing spot. Walked in and the owner of the establishment IMMEDIATELY hooked me up, really cool guy. Gave me the run down of the iPad, etc. The venue is absolutely incredible and I found the cute Latina receptionists (little older, don't really remember) being the one to guide you to your room so surreal and absolutely hilarious lmao. Girl comes in and is absolutely incredible, I was unfortunately pretty hungover and felt really off (not ed, just literally off) that I fucked the shit out of her the entire hour. Not sure if that was a dick move on my part, but it is what it is. Literally couldn't get enough of her feet, probably spent majority of the session licking her soles, sucking her toes, etc and then back to really hard sex which was probably a little weird but whatever. Girl took it cool, but not sure if that's standard considering it was my first time ever in any brothel type environment. I will say based on my experience, the GFE was maybe a little weaker than the super high end scene in North America. She was very obviously fake moaning. Which I didn't give af, she gave me permission to worship her body and she was super cool. It wasn't bad at all. Everyone in Brazil from the Uber Drivers to The Palms was SO incredibly nice & welcoming. And those girls got a pretty tough job. I did maybe do a pretty stupid thing though and kept lfk kissing her and eating her pussy no clue if that's typical or if the girls even get tested.

Other stuff:

I'll probably be back quite soon as I have a girl I follow on Twitter / Instagram I randomly hit up. Think I found her on Brazilian escort Twitter or SPLove or some shit like that years ago. Unfortunately it's been a while and I randomly remembered this bomb ass chick my last day (yes, I'm fucking stupid). Texted her literally like 1 o'clock my last day, she asked for me selfie (I'm 27). She got mad at me asking why the fuck I hit her up at 1 am my last day here LOL, she sent me a picture of her bottle of wine and told me if I would have reached out to her sooner we would have fucked together all night and made the deepest love. We spent 2 hrs texting, me begging her please see me at 9 am before my noon flight the next morning. She said I can't baby, the wine earliest she can do is 11 am. I told her you break my heart, she said I'm so sorry amor I want to fuck you so bad. Literally the best GFE I've ever had. So yeah, I'll probably come back soon because I might be in love.

P.S. I personally found the Bradesco 10 am opening time to be a huge PITA because if you want to fuck a girl in the morning or late you really have to plan according to the bank. So let's say the daily withdrawal limit is $r1500-2000 that's basically enough for 1 girl. Do you have to plan accordingly waiting all morning until 10 am for the bank to open, then Uber to get the cash, then Uber to the location or your home to get organized, and by the time you're ready for the girls you could already be a little exhausted? Any way to at least digitally pay Scandallo chicks morning after with Apple Pay or something? Idk maybe that affected me a little more because I was on a very tight schedule this trip.

Tldr: Definitely plan on hitting up The Palms x100 next visit (again, I was here coincidentally for business), hopefully get to check out Scandallo my next visit, and maybe make home girl my wife.

[QUOTE=Glassaitl;3029399]Does Sau Paulo fit the bill for a rookie? What do you recommend?[/QUOTE]Sao Paulo will be better because it is easier to navigate and probably more info and options available. Rio if you are looking for lower cost options but it can be rough and more difficult to navigate.

[QUOTE=Glassaitl;3029399]I figured you fine gentlemen would know best.

What city would you recommend to a virgin who is new to the hobby? What do you recommend?[/QUOTE]Thanks for this honor. Welcome to the group of "fine gentlemen". If you're a first timer, I'd suggest just sticking to Scandallo in Sao Paulo and not diverging much from there. Just show up with some cash and you're good. It's pretty straight forward, women are being paid to provide a service, they don't care much about your inexperience.

First posts ever on this forum and first time in Brazil. Giving back since the the forum has been so useful. 2 part series. See Rio for Part 1. All prices in brl. I don't do BBFS.

Thursday Night:

We head to the famous Scandallo, and it lived up to all the hype. We were definitely stunned by the sheer volume of the place.

We enter in the ground floor and go up the elevator to the first floor to register at the desk. They have upped their cover to standard 600,400 of which is consumable for food or drink. It's easy to spend in my opinion. They give you a card that you swipe everywhere and then pay for at the end. Don't sleep on the restaurant right next to the front desk area. Had some awesome risotto there. They have a large main area, often with live music and then and outdoor area, all very luxurious and surrounded by stellar bar service. Lots of chicks everywhere.

We definitely gave newbie vibes being awestruck by the place. When we were eating in the restaurant, one of my friends got a quote of 500 usd / hour 1000 usd / overnight. HAHA. Another one got one from a cute girl next door redhead for 1500 brl for the night. Not bad! The quotes are all over the place so it takes some experience to figure it out. Security is very strict, my friend was taking pics of the food and my friend's facial reaction to the place and a huge guard comes over and makes him delete everything.

I don't bite on any chicks, I'm just enjoying acclimating to the environment, having already smashed unexpectedly in Rio in the morning. My friend snags a threesome with some twins, LOL.

Friday Day:

For over a month I had been chatting with a highly vetted one from Private55 I was excited about. We scheduled for today afternoon for 90 minutes. She says 1300 and I say wait, what- your rate is 400/ hour? She says that rate is old and then sends me her boilerplate that says 500/ hour, but even for a theoretical higher outcall rate, it didn't make sense to me. She said if it was too expensive then that's fine. I use the opportunity to cancel it. After my Rio experiences, I was no longer as excited for this one as I was pre-travel, so used my afternoon to walk around the city instead and enjoyed that.

Friday Night:

I recommend my friends go to investigate Casarao and that's what they did. I stayed back to catch up on sleep having gone out so many days in a row and not having the ability to sleep in like them. They had a good time, but reported that the rooms were gross as many have said here. I warned them in advance of that.

Saturday Morning:

Not having nutted in over a day now, I schedule 10 AM with Sharon Premium Spa, a provider called Moana. Stunningly hot but the experience ended up pissing me off. I'm waiting in the room for a while, she comes in and showers forever, we're already like 20 minutes in at this point. She's does this lame, not even a real massage just touching. Ok fine. Now for the BJ. And. She pulls out a condom. FUCK. I can hardly feel a thing with the shitty rubber she pulled out. I fuck her fast and nut fast. She is resistant to kiss which I also don't like. I always go in very hygienic all across the board and haven't had these issues so far. After that, I expect we can go again, but no she says if you want 30 more minutes you can extend, but the actual session only went like 40 minutes even though I'm supposed to get an hour. I message them telling them what happened and how disinterested the whole session was with shortchanging on time. They say sorry and offer a discount from the usual 700 to 600 for another provider, but I'm not interested in going back. Avoid Moana. My friend went to Palms the previous day and had a blast. I should have went there in hindsight, but the whole agreement was we would explore as many places as we could.

Saturday Night:

Decide to head over to Bomboa 222 around 11:30. It's a pleasant surprise, has an elegant American bar feel with some live music going. Cover is 400 if I remember correctly, all consumable. The manager is very friendly as he sees us as gringos willing to spend. He says if I see any girl I like, he can bring her over. It's a cozy layout and maybe 30 ish girls at a given time. There were definitely enough good looking girls in there to justify a visit. Yes, it's not Scandallo, but of the 3 boates, this is probably the best one to just sit and chill and enjoy a drink. My understanding is they also have decent rooms for smashing. I end up calling over a Tall Colombian looking chick, nice figure and pretty face. She asks 1200/ hour, I counter with 1000 and she says ok. A little later, I figure, it would be easier if she just came over and then I could smash her in the morning as well. We settle on 2000. Probably, I could have brought it down a bit more. I can't remember if there was a takeout fee, but there was a 20% surcharge for using credit card, which pissed me off, so 2400 in all.

We head out and the manager said we didn't finish our consumable allowance and gave us beers and Smirnoffs ice bottles to make up the difference. I thought that was a really nice touch. I find out she's a weed smoker, which annoyed me as I don't smoke, but I tried not to let it bother me too much. We head home and smash, she gives superb bbj oral. Great time. Then she gives me a really nice massage and it makes me fall asleep.

Sunday Morning:

Wake and smash again: It's pretty good GFE, she looks more busted than compared to the dim lit environment of the club and without her makeup. We go get some breakfast and she goes on her way. She keeps pushing me to repeat in the night before my departure, but I'm not interested. Even if I wanted to smash, I would go with new talent.

Sunday Night:

Just chilled and had some dope food. So many awesome restaurants in Sao Paulo. I could have gone to Casarao to round things out as it's the only one of the three boates discussed here open on Sunday, but didn't really care to, preferred to hang out and explore the city a bit and rest early for my departure Monday morning.

TLDR takeaways:

If you want a high likelihood of a positive experience, you have to vet somehow. Either in person on site or through forum reports / reviews. Otherwise, you are shooting in the dark, (which can be it's own thrill).

In Rio, The whole "terma" concept is gross with being in bathrobes with other dudes. Maybe it's different at the Europe FKKs (never been), but try to avoid the bathrobe thing. If you go to these places, just go there to get numbers from the few women who are any good, and then bail. The rooms are mediocre, and you don't save much if anything compared to just going to a love motel or using your own spot if you feel comfortable.

Sao Paulo has way more options, but ironically, I ended up having the best experiences hands down in Rio through gparena.

How I will handle this in the future:

Before going, I will scour gparena (Rio) or gpguia (Sao Paulo) to get a good idea of who is a good up and comer who is favorable or a veteran provider with a great track record. Then I will rank them by priority and try to schedule them for the afternoon. They often work regular work hours and not nights.

Going cold into a clinica or "spa" will remain as a last resort if other vetted options don't work out. Just too hit or miss, but I like that there are many of these options available with new ones popping up all the time, just be careful, as you are going onto someone else's turf.

For going out at night, I will prioritize Scandallo with Bomboa 222 and Casarao to round things out. My vetting process will be to have fun lighthearted discussion at the beginning and then bring conversation sexual quickly. I need to get some indication that she actually likes what she does and will bring good energy. While Scandallo is more expensive, there is no comparison on quality, but you have to go in there with a clear idea of what you're trying to do or you'll get fleeced.

For negotiating in person (you must do this or you will get fleeced). I would go down 30-50% from their opening ask and try to meet them around 25-40% down, because I noticed that when they notice you're a foreigner who doesn't speak Portuguese, they mark you up more. The local guys know amongst themselves how to keep them honest, so they get quoted closer to "fair" value. I will carry bills in various denominations in order to tip them in case they walk (assuming I called them over first). Don't be afraid to let them walk away, they will often come back. There is a misconception that negotiating will reduce the quality of the service. I don't think so. Them seeing that you have boundaries, aren't a pushover, and know what you're doing will increase their respect for you. Think of it in terms of how likely they are to score another client that night.

[QUOTE=JacobMann;3029574]In Rio, The whole "terma" concept is gross with being in bathrobes with other dudes. Maybe it's different at the Europe FKKs (never been), but try to avoid the bathrobe thing. If you go to these places, just go there to get numbers from the few women who are any good, and then bail. The rooms are mediocre, and you don't save much if anything compared to just going to a love motel or using your own spot if you feel comfortable..[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report. Good takeaways and good retrospective. I've only been to São Paulo, and I feel like I've dodged a bullet called Rio, you confirm that it's not good. I'd recommend forget Rio bathrobe experience and you need to go to FKK Sharks, it's a cleaner place and I love the laid back bathrobe spa sauna vibe.

Scandallo is the GOAT. No Bomboa 222 for me since entry pricing are same as Scandallo. I've been to Casarao, but it's too ghetto for me. I want to try those high end spa like the palms next visit.

I am planning on spending two weeks in Sao Paulo in late January. I have a couple of questions.

First of all, there are a lot of ads for girls online, probably thousands. How accurate are those photos? I was in Saint Petersburg, Russia for a week this past March. I discovered that I could call a girl to my apartment and the woman who appeared might bear little if any resemblance to the photo. The one notable except was this telegram channel [URL]https://t.me/velvet_hub[/URL] . There is one honest person in Saint Petersburg, God bless him. On the other hand I was in Medellin for two weeks two years ago. I believe the photos in [URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/[/URL] for example were OK. So what is going on in Sao Paulo?

Secondly I notice a huge variation in prices going from about R$100 for some girls who look pretty attractive to me here [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo[/URL] up to [URL]http://scandallolounge.com.br/[/URL] with, according to what I hear, an entrance fee of are R$600 half of which can be used for food or drinks, a room for sex upstairs in the nightclub for R$180/ hour and sex is about R$1000 to R$1200/ hour. Do the math. And then there is every amount in between. Are the R$2000 girls (including all the expenses) really that much better than girls elsewhere? I just want a cute young girl who is passionate. I don't care if she's been in the centerfold of Playboy. Although I might splurge on that once or twice.

One thing I have a sneaky suspicion about. Are there girls who charge R$400/ hour at their apartment at 3:00 pm but charge R$1200 at midnight at Scandallo? Could it be that time and place might get you a huge discount?

Also just a comment about [URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/viewforum.php?f=2[/URL] . I have been reading a lot of reviews for girls. Have noticed that they seem to seldom review anyone over R$200/ hour. Secondly I seldom know what she looks like. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The reviewer might feel that this was the greatest thing that ever happened to him however she might not look good to me. They usually include a link to an ad and the ad is usually gone by now. However the few links that did work and got a positive review looked ugly to me. I think it's interesting. I wonder who the people are on that forum and what they look like. But to each his own. They seem to be having fun.

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3029632]Thanks for your report. Good takeaways and good retrospective. I've only been to So Paulo, and I feel like I've dodged a bullet called Rio, you confirm that it's not good. I'd recommend forget Rio bathrobe experience and you need to go to FKK Sharks, it's a cleaner place and I love the laid back bathrobe spa sauna vibe.[/QUOTE]There is some really good talent in Rio, I had a great time. It just happened to be through Gparena website instead of the clubs and requires some work to sift through and figure out.

Would love to go to FKK sharks if I ever happen to be near there, but I can't see it being near as good as Scandallo to justify a dedicated trip there.

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3029632]Scandallo is the GOAT. No Bomboa 222 for me since entry pricing are same as Scandallo. I've been to Casarao, but it's too ghetto for me.[/QUOTE]Scandallo only is totally acceptable. But I think for those with more time, they shouldn't totally dismiss Bomboa. It has a different feel from Scandallo while still being classy (or at least not Ghetto as you put it). The management seems to really be trying hard, which I respect. And there is a good likelihood you'll find at least one girl you really like and vibe with.

If I remember correct, Scandallo is 600/400 consumable and Bomboa is 400-all consumable.

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3029632]I want to try those high end spa like the palms next visit.
[/QUOTE]Me too, LOL. I think it's a better system to go there and ask for the iPad and choose as opposed to asking for a specific one in advance (unless you already know her). I suspect my 10 AM schedule was thrust upon that Sharon provider by their management and didn't help her mood. Who knows, maybe I'm overthinking it and just had an unlucky experience?

Arrived late night and of course headed to Scandallo. I'the written myself a note to not take the first girl because that has always proven to be the worst of the trip. So I planned to settle in a bit and not choose too quickly. Especially not a girl that approaches me.

I got my favorite waiter to check if I had a bottle by chance (they keep it for six months) and gave that about a 5% chance. But sure enough he comes back with a 3/4 full bottle of Tanqueray! Sweet! Totally don't remember leaving that. Bonus! So I settle in at a table on the small patio with a Gin Tropical and my bottle.

It's not long before I hear a girl behind me talking perfect English in an American accent. So we strike up quite a good conversation. She's with two friends. One is a strawberry blonde, slim and pretty. And the other a brunette. A tad thicker but cute and young (20) and her build is not offputting. Looks like a banging set of natural Cee cups.

The consumable is now 400 R so I know with being spotted a bottle and it being late night that I won't prob use the consumable. So I invite the girls to join me. May as well since the 400 is a sunk cost. I order some more Red Bulls and they are sharing my bottle. It's great to have someone with perfect English in the group as she keeps the conversation flowing both directions.

The American girl is actually Brazilian but grew up in Miami. She's got a bit of that plastic miami look with overdone lips so not quite my gig. But have my eye on the strawberry blonde. Will have to figure out how to play that. I know they are semi-pros but I'the prefer not to slap Miami girl in the face she's been so nice.

After an hour or so we move inside to the club as the girls are a bit chilly. I love that about Scan just tell the waiter you want to move and he brings the bottle and bucket and all that and gets us a table in the club.

We must party for 2-3 more hours. I'm having such a great time that I'm fine not fucking for now. When miami girl heads to the bathroom I get my chance to engage more with the other girls. I move to their side of the table and ask them to dance. The one declines but the blond, let's call her M, jumps up and engages enthusiastically.

Bodies pressed tight together. Some hand roving in both directions. Some lovely dance and a brief shared kiss or two. It's clear the chemistry is on!

Well we all drink some more and I dance with M some more, but eventually I ask her to the room. She asks 1500. I counter with 1000 and we settle on 1200 R. A solid price for a girl that smokin.

The in-room experience is amazing. We start just standing kissing and omfg that girl can kiss. I mean all brasileiras can but hers are definitely top shelf. And the other great thing is she's is just in the moment. No shower no nothing and she drops to her knees for amazing BBBJ.

She clearly loves to suck dick because I clocked her at 20 minutes of pure heaven. And she deserves a treat so it's a solid 15 of DATY after that which she clearly enjoys.

As I finish my magic act, it musta worked wonders because she takes me by the hands and pulls me on top of her. I give the polite pause for an objection but when none is heard I slide in bareback and it's epic. The rest is a blur by now but I have a crashing CIP (I have a vasectomy and told her so). Totally dig this girl 100%.

Back in the club Miami girl has left and friend 2 is still searching for a prospect. I tell my girl that if she wants to come home with me for another 1200 I am down. I tell her no more sex tonight but we will have morning sex.

Of course 1200 for takeout bareback is an amazing deal and I hope says that the chemistry is more than just a show. There is the 400 exit fee also.

Ah what a lovely girl and a lovely night. We sleep the sleep of the dead have some amazing morning sex culminating in a CIM swallow. Damn she's a rockstar. And the kissing. Just wow. Fortunately she's not a shy girl and I grab a fully naked pic for posterity before she leaves.

And as always Scan delivers. Not just a magical girl. But a luxe club. Hours of partying with hotties. Amazing service. Superb restaurant. Truly no place better worldwide. But don't come here to save $$. It's just the wrong thing to do. Blow it out. You won't regret it.

Jacob. Great post. You see the allure of Scan and already figuring how to play better. I think most of your thoughts are solid. I would only have two pieces of advice. Test the chemistry by being hands on in the club. Don't be afraid to touch her or better yet dance. You will feel her vibe. You can 💯 also make out in the club. Go for a kiss. If you get a peck hmmm hard to say. If you get sloppy DFK you know it's on. Brasileiras are totally used to kissing in the club.

Do not under any circumstances tip a girl for her time. She spends time with you as her investment in you and if it doesn't work out thst is not your fault. Tipping her for her time rewards her for being not good enough. Doesn't sound right eh?

TexasPistol. The pricing difference between 500 R girls and 1200 R girls is all about the venue and experience NOT the girl. You can absolutely get a 500 R girl at Casarao who is smoking hot and a great girl. I've had several. And they are every bit as good as a Scan girl. But you get her in a crowded narrow bar with a bunch of local dudes. You go to Scandallo for the experience. Everything there is expensive. Because it can be. A mixed drink is $27. Is it better than the mixed drink at Casarao for half that? Nope. You are paying for the entire experience.

Two footnotes:

Learned that if you take two girls at Scan (report forthcoming) the room costs twice as much! So 680 R.

I learned from my girl today (a Casarao girl) that Casarao is opening a great new space behind the smoking area. Apparently nicest part of the club. Opens Oct 2 I beleive.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3029762]
TexasPistol. The pricing difference between 500 R girls and 1200 R girls is all about the venue and experience NOT the girl.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for that. For myself, the goal is young, pretty and passionate. So long as the location doesn't smell badly, I'm in.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3029762]
I learned from my girl today (a Casarao girl) that Casarao is opening a great new space behind the smoking area. Apparently nicest part of the club. Opens Oct 2 I beleive.[/QUOTE]Very good tips! I have visited the extra space a few times as it has been open for some time. Could it be an official opening?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3029760]let's call her M[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great report. Glad you had fun. What's her name? What's the name of the American girl?

I shared around 20 names of Scandallo girls in my previous 2 reports in this forum. And plenty more on FKK Reddit.

Hey Steve, glad to hear you broke your first girl of the trip losing streak. KKK. Great trip report!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3029760]Arrived late night and of course headed to Scandallo. I'the written myself a note to not take the first girl because that has always proven to be the worst of the trip. So I planned to settle in a bit and not choose too quickly. Especially not a girl that approaches me.
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I tell her no more sex tonight but we will have morning sex.
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Ah what a lovely girl and a lovely night. We sleep the sleep of the dead have some amazing morning sex culminating in a CIM swallow. Damn she's a rockstar. And the kissing. Just wow. Fortunately, she's not a shy girl and I grab a fully naked pic for posterity before she leaves.

And as always Scan delivers. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3029632]Thanks for your report....Scandallo is the GOAT. No Bomboa 222 for me since entry pricing are same as Scandallo. I've been to Casarao, but it's too ghetto for me. I want to try those high end spa like the palms next visit.[/QUOTE]I agreed that Scandallo is the GOAT, but don't sleep on Bomboa.

The main reason that I might go there is that it's lower key and sometimes I don't feel 'up' for the craziness of Scandallo. Also, I'd say it's a bit cheaper overall (in my experience). You can more often get the girls down to 600-800 R a little later in the night, although the tradeoff is the girls are a little older than Scandallo and not as hot (more 6. 5's - 8's, vs 7. 5's - 9's). Anyway, I'm sure you get my point. Performance tends to be the same in my opinion, but as others would say, take your time before choosing!

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/north-koreans-ordered-check-women-175645883.html[/URL]

As a gesture of international goodwill, maybe a few of us could offer to examine the women.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3029820]I agreed that Scandallo is the GOAT, but don't sleep on Bomboa.

The main reason that I might go there is that it's lower key and sometimes I don't feel 'up' for the craziness of Scandallo. Also, I'd say it's a bit cheaper overall (in my experience). You can more often get the girls down to 600-800 R a little later in the night, although the tradeoff is the girls are a little older than Scandallo and not as hot (more 6. 5's - 8's, vs 7. 5's - 9's). Anyway, I'm sure you get my point. Performance tends to be the same in my opinion, but as others would say, take your time before choosing![/QUOTE]Just wrapped Bomboa and headed to Scan. Agree Bomboa def a quality venue. Kinda like Scan miniature. Gets rolling around 11:00. Took a stunner at 800. A bit mechanical but a nice girl. Food was spectacular. Def a lot of hotties by 11. Maybe 50? Def would recommend. Prefer Scan but a nice alternative.Gotta say drinks, dinner and room time all in for $300 usd never sucked.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3029838]Just wrapped Bomboa and headed to Scan. Agree Bomboa def a quality venue. Kinda like Scan miniature. Gets rolling around 11:00. Took a stunner at 800. A bit mechanical but a nice girl. Food was spectacular. Def a lot of hotties by 11. Maybe 50? Def would recommend. Prefer Scan but a nice alternative.Gotta say drinks, dinner and room time all in for $300 usd never sucked.[/QUOTE]When in SP, I alternate my nights between Scandello and Bomboa, I find the value proposition to be the same, with Bomboa being slightly less quality garotas at slightly cheaper prices. I like alternating the crazier, club vibe of Scandello with the more laid back, supper club vibe of Bomboa.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3029647]I am planning on spending two weeks in Sao Paulo in late January. I have a couple of questions.

First of all, there are a lot of ads for girls online, probably thousands. How accurate are those photos? I was in Saint Petersburg, Russia for a week this past March. I discovered that I could call a girl to my apartment and the woman who appeared might bear little if any resemblance to the photo. The one notable except was this telegram channel [URL]https://t.me/velvet_hub[/URL] . There is one honest person in Saint Petersburg, God bless him. On the other hand I was in Medellin for two weeks two years ago. I believe the photos in [URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/[/URL] for example were OK. So what is going on in Sao Paulo?

Secondly I notice a huge variation in prices going from about R$100 for some girls who look pretty attractive to me here [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo[/URL] up to [URL]http://scandallolounge.com.br/[/URL] with, according to what I hear, an entrance fee of are R$600 half of which can be used for food or drinks, a room for sex upstairs in the nightclub for R$180/ hour and sex is about R$1000 to R$1200/ hour. Do the math. And then there is every amount in between. Are the R$2000 girls (including all the expenses) really that much better than girls elsewhere? I just want a cute young girl who is passionate. I don't care if she's been in the centerfold of Playboy. Although I might splurge on that once or twice.

One thing I have a sneaky suspicion about. Are there girls who charge R$400/ hour at their apartment at 3:00 pm but charge R$1200 at midnight at Scandallo? Could it be that time and place might get you a huge discount?

Also just a comment about [URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/viewforum.php?f=2[/URL] . I have been reading a lot of reviews for girls. Have noticed that they seem to seldom review anyone over R$200/ hour. Secondly I seldom know what she looks like. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The reviewer might feel that this was the greatest thing that ever happened to him however she might not look good to me. They usually include a link to an ad and the ad is usually gone by now. However the few links that did work and got a positive review looked ugly to me. I think it's interesting. I wonder who the people are on that forum and what they look like. But to each his own. They seem to be having fun.[/QUOTE]The photoaccompanates website is a total bait and switch. Think about. Why would a super hot chick charge only R100 per hour when she could easily make 10 x that in an hour at Scandello? The saying "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is" applies here. Don't waste your time unless you have a lot of time to waste.

No. The girls who are charging R400 per hour at their apartment aren't the same ones charging R1200 at Scandello. Lots of first time posters think they can sweet talk a better price out of the club and it almost never happens.

Scandello is an experience. Read reports from myself, Axel Heyst, Steve 9696, SocratesNY, Lalabo and many others. If you can only afford it once, do it once and move on to other boates like Casarão. Clinicas are also another experience but I don't like them so really don't know much about them.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3029762]Jacob. Great post. You see the allure of Scan and already figuring how to play better. I think most of your thoughts are solid. I would only have two pieces of advice. Test the chemistry by being hands on in the club. Don't be afraid to touch her or better yet dance. You will feel her vibe. You can 💯 also make out in the club. Go for a kiss. If you get a peck hmmm hard to say. If you get sloppy DFK you know it's on. Brasileiras are totally used to kissing in the club.

Do not under any circumstances tip a girl for her time. She spends time with you as her investment in you and if it doesn't work out thst is not your fault. Tipping her for her time rewards her for being not good enough. Doesn't sound right eh?[/QUOTE]Awesome. Excellent advice I will implement for next time, though it will probably be several months. Makes a lot of sense. We are the sole customers in that establishment.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3029762]Learned that if you take two girls at Scan (report forthcoming) the room costs twice as much! So 680 R.[/QUOTE]Interesting. There must be a reason. Also for the takeout fee (400) to only just be slightly higher than the room fee is interesting. Maybe because they have ID on everyone and so feel safe about it combined with the cost of servicing the room?

Anyways, it gives good flexibility. Take a girl out for the night out the bat, smash upstairs and grab number for later. Smash upstairs and come back and party before taking her out again. Different ways to play it based on time and vibe.

I arrived at the Espao Morumbi Clinica in Morumbi mid afternoon. It is directly across the street from the Swingy Club Inner Club, close to Shopping Morumbi, and a 10-minute Uber ride to Swing Motel. I was received with an excellent reception by three different receptionists. They are older gals who run the front desk and bar. There was a promotion and a Forista discount. At the bar, drinks are inexpensive and paid separately from the session with the garotas. There is a sofa, a table lounge area for drinks. Several dudes at least were just hanging out drinking and talking to garotas. Similar to 57 Chanes or Tangara basement bar is a hangout spot. Of course, all the friendly gals leave to do the presentation lineup. So if you are just talking with one she may not come back. I asked for a presentation to see all the girls in the house. I snatch up. Two super fine sexy ass morenas, damn cute looking Megan Markels look a likes. Sorry bro ya ain't Finnin to see these garotas for three hours. With the four hands afternoon promotion & forista discounts, I was banging away with them for two hours and a two-and-a-half-hour session with two high-performing Morenas garotas. She is an excellent deep throat expert. I am in love. She has a natural body with nice features. I will repeat forever. The receptionist team, made me feel like a client vip. I ordered us a round of drinks, Smirnoff Ice, Hedgeybull Zero, whiskey, and gin tonic. It was a hot fantastic experience for economic dudes like me.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3029966]Scandello is an experience. Read reports from myself, Axel Heyst, Steve 9696, SocratesNY, Lalabo and many others. If you can only afford it once, do it once and move on to other boates like Casaro. Clinicas are also another experience but I don't like them so really don't know much about them.[/QUOTE]I kind of figured that internet advertisements weren't worth much. I hate dishonesty like that. There should be a law against it. If you cannot trust a hooker who can you trust?

And about Scandello, I plan on being in Sao Paulo for two weeks so if I can get my 65 year old rear end into gear one night I'm going to do it. What can go wrong?

I have just come across a very interesting looking website. It makes a good impression on me as having reliable reviews and information about sex workers in Brazil including Sao Paulo. There are accurate video clips of each girl and many have customer reviews. If this is a scam, it would not be the first time that I have been scammed however it looks very legitimate to me.

[URL]https://fatalmodel.com/[/URL]

However to use all the features you need to create an account and pay are 5. 99 real for the first month and after that 39.90 real per month for renewal. Cancel at any time.

I'd be very interested to hear if anyone has experience with this. To me it looks like just point and click. Pick a girl you like, send her your address and the time for the meeting via WhatsApp, send her an Uber and you're done without moving from your chair. Ordering pussy is as easy as ordering pizza, at least that's what it looks like. That's my idea of a perfect vacation. There is a price and a type of girl for every budget and taste. There are 2800 profiles for women in Sao Paulo alone. The girls who interest me are from are from 500 real to 800 real per hour plus probably another 50 real for the Uber round trip.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3030018]I have just come across a very interesting looking website. It makes a good impression on me as having reliable reviews and information about sex workers in Brazil including Sao Paulo. There are accurate video clips of each girl and many have customer reviews. If this is a scam, it would not be the first time that I have been scammed however it looks very legitimate to me.

[URL]https://fatalmodel.com/[/URL]

However to use all the features you need to create an account and pay are 5. 99 real for the first month and after that 39.90 real per month for renewal. Cancel at any time.

I'd be very interested to hear if anyone has experience with this. To me it looks like just point and click. Pick a girl you like, send her your address and the time for the meeting via WhatsApp, send her an Uber and you're done without moving from your chair. Ordering pussy is as easy as ordering pizza, at least that's what it looks like. That's my idea of a perfect vacation. There is a price and a type of girl for every budget and taste. There are 2800 profiles for women in Sao Paulo alone. The girls who interest me are from are from 500 real to 800 real per hour plus probably another 50 real for the Uber round trip.[/QUOTE]I think that site is definitely more reliable than many of the other ones. It has the feature in the "about me" (sobre mim) section where the girl is required to upload a 360 video of herself naked (or underwear) but without face, which I think is a truly awesome feature.

The real problem is you don't get a clear idea of what kind of service you're going to get without reviews, which it may or may not have.

I think the best way is to cross reference the contact info and / or name with the gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL] forum as well as a simple google search to see if others have experiences, or better yet, just search for providers directly on the gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL] forum and see who is getting consistently good reviews over the past 6-12 months. Use the auto translate feature of your internet browser as it will all be in Portuguese. You can also reverse search images to see if they're fakes or being used by multiple profiles.

Of course, all of this is rather time and labor intensive, but it does allow you to have several potential options available before landing so you can hit the ground running.

I think you should take a visit to Bomboa when you're there, less of a party / hot house environment. More of a restaurant feel.

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[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3030018]I have just come across a very interesting looking website. It makes a good impression on me as having reliable reviews and information about sex workers in Brazil including Sao Paulo. There are accurate video clips of each girl and many have customer reviews. If this is a scam, it would not be the first time that I have been scammed however it looks very legitimate to me.

[URL]https://fatalmodel.com/[/URL]

However to use all the features you need to create an account and pay are 5. 99 real for the first month and after that 39.90 real per month for renewal. Cancel at any time.

I'd be very interested to hear if anyone has experience with this. To me it looks like just point and click. Pick a girl you like, send her your address and the time for the meeting via WhatsApp, send her an Uber and you're done without moving from your chair. Ordering pussy is as easy as ordering pizza, at least that's what it looks like. That's my idea of a perfect vacation. There is a price and a type of girl for every budget and taste. There are 2800 profiles for women in Sao Paulo alone. The girls who interest me are from are from 500 real to 800 real per hour plus probably another 50 real for the Uber round trip.[/QUOTE]It's legit. Much better than fake photo. Recommend the membership to make the website useful. It takes foreign credit cards. Of course, appropriate screening is necessary as there still fake girls. The site rates the girls verification level which is some what believable. When you WhatsApp the girl from the website, it will send the girl their fatalmodel price list per hour and extras. So no price gouging of foreign phone numbers. The girls I've seen were exactly the girls. Locals think the girls on fatalmodel have inflated prices compared to other sites.

To continue the 2nd part of my review that will cover gauguin and scandallo. I only did rooms in the boates as I didn't want to deal with extra stress of take out. My Airbnb was a very economical option but exactly what I needed with facial entry and safe area right next to a brandesco bank. Note to everyone if it's Sunday, make sure to take out money at the airport because it seems most banks are closed. Brandesco was great and loved the high 2500 limit per transaction.

Gaugin. I had a great time here, it's a nice size in between of scandallo and bomboa. Not as big as scandallo but very lux as well and not as small and cozy as bomboa. They even have a shark tank. I liked the ability to walk around and talk to girls. The way scandallo's club area is set up, it's hard to walk and scout out the girls way out in the dj area. Gaugin had some good talent there and rooms were quality. In my previous post I mentioned casarao was fine but now in hindsight after experiencing bomboa, gaugin and scan, I can see why it would be gross. I did not mind walking around barefoot at those other place but when I went to casarao I wore shower flip flops which in hindsight was to avoid the dirtyness. Gaugin entry is 120 before 9 all consumable, after 9 it's either 140 cover + 150. Consumable or 500 all consumable. Talent number is lower than scandello (everywhere is) but I found something I liked. Compared to bomboa it felt like similar level of talent. Room is similar cost to bomboa as well.

Scandallo. As other members have mentioned, it's very intimidating the first time you go up the elevators and doors open and all the girls eye you. I instinctively wanted to duck away but also wanted to eat so just quickly walked into dinner area. Big club lots of hot girls. I don't need to dive into the experience much since it has been covered by everyone but you have to go here at least once but probably twice as 2nd time you aren't as intimidated.

Overall the sessions were almost all incredible. It is true Brazil best garotas in the world at all locations. Pricy but worth it. Some odd tidbits.

-I learned from my only bad session that if you aren't getting the right vibes just go with your gut and bail. I had one mediocre session that in hindsight I should have bailed. If talking to the girl doesn't give you a stiffy bail.

-- I would rank my preference as scan, gauguin, bomboa and casarao but keep mind I did all rooms on site. Others members have noted potential scams Saida from gauguin but being on site I didn't experience this.

-also I think we should all just say bomboa consumable is actually 460 because they tack on 15% so it's actually most expensive entry.

- feels like a lot of girls are bored so next time will try to negotiate harder. I feel you just let them take or leave and if they say no then you should just find someone else and they can continue sitting.

-also curious about Bahamas club in the future since it is actually open Sunday when everything else is closed besides late night casarao.

Did my own thing this time as I am not senior member with ability to message but can def see this place being more fun with a group to eat out at restaurants and chill between girls.

[QUOTE=EyesWide;3030037]
-I learned from my only bad session that if you aren't getting the right vibes just go with your gut and bail. I had one mediocre session that in hindsight I should have bailed. If talking to the girl doesn't give you a stiffy bail.

- feels like a lot of girls are bored so next time will try to negotiate harder. I feel you just let them take or leave and if they say no then you should just find someone else and they can continue sitting.

Did my own thing this time as I am not senior member with ability to message but can def see this place being more fun with a group to eat out at restaurants and chill between girls.[/QUOTE]Yes! Always follow your gut. Good sessions are always effortless and very easy it's a sensation that is kind of hard to explain but it feels like t was in place to be made and no rushes. Good deals are made when you follow your instincts. Save yourself bad experiences and potentially dangerous outcomes. Sometimes even not scoring might be a better option than receiving poor service or having a bad outcome. Same thing happened to me in Casarao which I will detail later.

[QUOTE=JacobMann;3030021]
The real problem is you don't get a clear idea of what kind of service you're going to get without reviews, which it may or may not have.
[/QUOTE]There is an option in the filter to only view profiles which have a review and I turn that on. And I want to see a girl who has a 4 or 5 average. As an extra precaution, I might run some of the photos through tineye, however to me the photos look homemade, not like a professional model photographed by a professional photographer.

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;3030031]Locals think the girls on fatalmodel have inflated prices compared to other sites.[/QUOTE]I get that impression too. I think you are probably paying 25% to 100% extra for the convenience. If someone has plenty of time to kill, you would probably save money going on [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo[/URL] . If when the door opens she doesn't match the photos (and I bet most will not) so close the door. If she has a bad attitude tell her to go home although I would pay for one hour in advance and let her keep that even if I kick her out after ten minutes. And then you are paying for those Ubers, whether you go to her or she comes to you. And the main problem for me is just the time. A two week visit flies by very quickly and I don't want to waste most of it on fraudulent profiles. [URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/viewforum.php?f=2[/URL] should help however they only review a handful of the thousands of women out there and even then there is no photo. There is a link to an ad and 90% the links no longer work.

If you have unlimited time or just enjoy the excitement and surprises of the hunt, then use [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo[/URL] like the local guys do.

I went to Casarao three times. Second time it was on Tuesday and other was Saturday. This is my view after entering and exploring it somehow. (Note I haven't entered to Scandallo or other clubs, only boite I entered is 57 friends which is a different from here.).

The second time I entered on Tuesday it was very empty until at 10:30 pm when girls start to get in. We were 4 in line at 10:00 pm.

Casarao big distinction outside is the golden naked statues of women. And a lot of security outside in the hotel rooms inside and the entrance itself.

Important: some credit cards may not be accepted. Bring cash or be a Brazilian.

The first time I went inside I also made a big mistake to not carry local cash because their CC machines just like 57 friends don't accept all credit cards because of insurance. So they cannot accept it. Luckily it was before I entered and I asked them if they accepted dollars in which they said yes. But gents they gave me a horrible exchange it was really not worth it. Went away feeling like lost opportunity. I made a note to fix this problem the next visit.

This will be in a separe post but the solution for me to this problem was the most difficult but I think it was the most rewarding. I opened an account there in Brazil with the pix function and that's it.

Anyways for the second time I went prepared and I entered early. Casarao is setup in two floors. Upper floor entrance has a bar. And downstairs has another one with reservations. Didn't ask how much for the table but it may be costly. Entrance fee 60 for consumption or 45 with none. Opted for 60 all times. It includes I think one drink. They give you a card for all purchases you made.

First floor in the bar I chatted a lot with the bartender she is old lady looks like Japanese to me. Spoke Portuguese so could chat with here easily, she saw that I was a first timer and gave me a welcome. Good old lady no complaints here folks.

After seating there, besides me there were two women. I monitored for one to come and sit besides me. She is a petite morena from Manaus, aged 24 slim with small boobs. We chatted some time. She gave me all the tips for this boate. Overall all the women will enter before 12 pm, reason for that is that if they enter late there will be a penalty they have to pay. They will pay 200 for being late ouch! Also prices vary usually you can haggle up to low prices when there is not a lot of demand. Takeout fee for the girls is 150. The rooms besides Casarao is 150 I think this one I never tried to be honest can't remember if the price was right.

After chatting with her a lot I don't find her attractive but I do thank her for giving me all the head ups. She asked what I was looking for, I told her I was in search for my Loira (blonde) of my dreams. And she laughed. Now she did tell me that she was willing to look for one to help me and ohh boy this is where things get crazy.

We found one in the second floor, she introduced her to me and we immediately started chatting. My god this woman was insane. She had big ass and great tits. A blonde from Curitiba. Lots of guys were eyeing her as well. After introductions and all of that we went immediately to negotiations. I wanted all night. She stunned told me her fee was 2500 up to afternoon. Big ufff man, that fee was insanely high. But being this goddam blonde babe I told her let's go. She was speechless, bu things didn't go smoothly before we went I asked I I could pay her in card and obviously she said I could but here is the caveat. She doesn't want to accept because one the payment goes way too long to receive the money, two usually guys scam women and cancel the transactions afterwards leaving her with no money. (if any monger has done this explain this please).

Anyways seeing that things cold not be sealed. She started to being desperate, now take note of this folks. She also sensed I could pay her fee easily but due to the issues she tried to find a way. Well she tried to offer me short term at the hotel nearby. And I refused because it was already late and I needed to be early next morning for my return flight. Next, the last and one last straw for her was that I was staying near Guarulhos airport and that was too far away for her. In the end I told her that you know it's not possible for her to come with me then. And then suddenly another of her friend went with her and chatted with me. Look and behold she was a morena with athletic build fuckable yes but it looked like she was on steroids. One last time they inferred themselves for a price of 2000 for both of them. I was speechless, anyways for that fee it is more than reasonable but I do not want the morena. But she was willing to accept the payment on behalf of her friend. In the end I didn't think it could work and walked away. Blonde babe was furious and walked to the next corner feeling like she missed some big bucks. I too walked away from Casarao but learned very good lessons for my next visit which I will cover on my next report. That night was very slowwww. Not a lot of competition and many guys were there just looking at the goods. It was nearing 1 am which should bring a lot for the girls but there was not much.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3029966]The photoaccompanates website is a total bait and switch. Think about. Why would a super hot chick charge only R100 per hour when she could easily make 10 x that in an hour at Scandello? The saying "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is" applies here. Don't waste your time unless you have a lot of time to waste.

No. The girls who are charging R400 per hour at their apartment aren't the same ones charging R1200 at Scandello. Lots of first time posters think they can sweet talk a better price out of the club and it almost never happens.

Scandello is an experience. Read reports from myself, Axel Heyst, Steve 9696, SocratesNY, Lalabo and many others. If you can only afford it once, do it once and move on to other boates like Casaro. Clinicas are also another experience but I don't like them so really don't know much about them.[/QUOTE]I beg to differ. I met girls in Casarao who also work in Scandallo. Imagine the difference in pricing. Photoacompahantes requires a lot of work, as rightly sated there a lot of switch and bait. A lot of girls on most of other sites also advertise on the Photo website. There a lot of bargains and jewels to be found on Photo website, if you have the time to trawl through. It's the one the most visited escort sites in Brazil.

[QUOTE=DSB4891;3029273] How strict are the exec apartments about girls smoking on the balcony? I know it's a nonsmoking hotel, just hard to imagine they enforce it if folks are careful and keep it outside. [/QUOTE]I have not experienced any problem smoking Cohibas or reefer on any SP hotel room balcony. My girls and I do it all the time. KKK. But I will add that some girls treat a balcony like it is public pavement and will flick their ashes and put out their cigarette butts on the tile floor leaving behind a mess. To counter this sort of behavior, I recommend placing an ash tray of some sort out on the balcony beforehand.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3029279]Fish ribs?[/QUOTE]Yah man (Jamaican accent) fish ribs. I know you dig Brazilian food, so you have to try Banzeiro. They specialize in a modern culinary take on Amazonian cuisine. It is a very popular restaurant in the heart of Itaim Bibi. The Tambaqui "Ribs" resemble a writing quill surrounded by perfectly barbequed tasty white meat. It ain't exactly babyback ribs, but they taste great!

That is good information.

Even porn producers I know are scrolling PA.

Porn talent is advertising on pa.

Filters and talking with other mongers is key.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3030065]There is an option in the filter to only view profiles which have a review and I turn that on. And I want to see a girl who has a 4 or 5 average. As an extra precaution, I might run some of the photos through tineye, however to me the photos look homemade, not like a professional model photographed by a professional photographer.

I get that impression too. I think you are probably paying 25% to 100% extra for the convenience. If someone has plenty of time to kill, you would probably save money going on [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo[/URL] . If when the door opens she doesn't match the photos (and I bet most will not) so close the door. If she has a bad attitude tell her to go home although I would pay for one hour in advance and let her keep that even if I kick her out after ten minutes. And then you are paying for those Ubers, whether you go to her or she comes to you. And the main problem for me is just the time. A two week visit flies by very quickly and I don't want to waste most of it on fraudulent profiles..[/QUOTE]

So night 2 I am meeting up with an ISG guy I haven't met before. We plan to meet at Scandallo for dinner just before 7 and miss the 200 cover that starts then. The food as usual is spectacular. And in Brazil their fried shrimp is stuffed with cheese. What a brilliant fucking idea!

After dinner and some conversation we move out to the large patio. After a little discussion and prodding from my new friend, my favorite waiter Octavio gets us a prime high top near the patio entrance where all the girls flow in and out. Niceee!

We are mostly just window shopping but eventually my girl M from the prior night shows up with her 20 year old friend. We are all drinking and vaping and just having a great time. (Pro tip: The girls absolutely adored my Cherry flavored Geek Bar. It was the life of the party for all nights this week!

M is very cuddly and we are holding hands and we kiss lightly from time to time. Even though we are the baddest girl venue on the planet, she's so sweet and a stunner and no one I'the rather be locked up with.

Miami girl joins us and another girl we'll call the problem child (see day four!) also. And my ISG friend spends alot of time with a girl we will call K. He doesn't take her but I def noted her down as smokin hot and lotta fun. Going thru gin and Red Bulls like water. Hahaha. But so fun.

After quite some time I decide I want to move into the vibe of the club. The band is playing and it's amazing. My new bud doesn't care for it so he stays behind and it's me and my harem of three or four hotties. The band is soooo good it's just epic being in the vibe of the moment.

At some point it's quite late, like 3 am and only M and her friend (let's call her Cutie) are still at the table. I guess we've been hanging out together for like five hours! Time flies.

In a flash of drunken brilliance I key in to the translator "You are my girl and I am very happy to go with just you. But if your friend would like to join us in the room she is welcome. It is up to you. 1000 for her". After some quick Portuguese with her friend it's on and off we go!

Duplas (what Brazilians call a Duo) are bi-modal. They are either spectacular or suck. Never in between. Fortunately this one is spectacular. And clearly the girls are quite close because they make out like fiends when I am fucking M. Hahaha.

Fuck I got to write these right after because I've forgotten a lot of detail. We start with me making out with M, standing, while Cutie gets on her knees and blows me. This is amazing. We do a ton of this kiss-and-blow throughout the hour, swapping which one is at which station. 😝.

There is also a bunch of double BJ. My fave. Mostly with one on shaft and one on balls. Sooooo good. Some amazing bareback doggie of M while she DFKs Cutie. Another fave was when I was on my back being blown by M and I'm making out with Cutie and fingering her pussy at the same time. Sopping wet twenty year old pussy. A great vintage (and M is 22) Sigh.

Although we have been doing a bunch of threeway stuff I didn't really notice but was only fucking M. And oooh she is delicious to fuck. But when we take a short break, M goes to the bathroom and Cutie gives a sly smile and mounts up raw!

Fuuuuck she has a great pussy. She cowgirls the fuck out of me and then we move to Mish my fave for sensation. Her pussy is sooooo good I almost blow a load despite being pretty tired and depleted in the cum department.

Some more kissing and BJ. Then get them on their backs side by side working their pussies for the final hurrah. Can't actually remember now if I came or not but it was epic regardless. Great night two!


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[QUOTE=TexasPistol;3029647]And then there is every amount in between. Are the R$2000 girls (including all the expenses) really that much better than girls elsewhere? ...
One thing I have a sneaky suspicion about. Are there girls who charge R$400/ hour at their apartment at 3:00 pm but charge R$1200 at midnight at Scandallo? Could it be that time and place might get you a huge discount?
[/QUOTE]It's YMMV. You will find that the same girl that goes to Casarao will not charge Scandallo price if you read enough reports. So it is location dependent. They also may charge a little more than the going rate simply because they have worked at Scandallo despite they are not the hottest in the club.

You are more likely to find Scandallo girls online on sites like clubmodel or SB site because pricing usually is higher. I have met one and reported it before. She is a very attractive redhead, she did not accept very many online dates because she said it's easy for her to make more money from foreigners in Scandallo with all covered service which is the reason I did not take her

I have Scandallo girls hit me up to offer to see me at more reasonable rate. I stay longer time than the typical tourists so it is YMMV.

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3027900]
she quotes 2500 R $. . She argues, "look at me I'm beautiful you want other ugly girls go for it". .. She goes around looking for another client, only to turn around and come back. I say 1200 R $ and she agrees.
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[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3027900]she says she doesn't go beyond 1800. I said 1500 is the max I can do. .. She agrees to the room, it's game time.
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This is common working girl behavior, just like many in Lleras In Medellin. They are good actors. I have reported and posted whatsapp conversations that one girl was belittling me about my offer when others paying something like 200 - 400 USD for her, I don't remember the actual number. But eventually she was eager to come to my apartment for like 50 USD. I also have girl showing me the conversation amongst themselves about how much they charge that I know wasn't true in my case. LOL. I think one will have success if you offer a reasonable rate to some Scandallo girls to come before their shift. Just like Lleras girls do.

Like Scadallo, Lleras also attracts some better family background and hotter girls. I go to both places looking for something that I can't find elsewhere. The majority of them are available for less elsewhere.

My observation is that girls do respond to generosity in money and nice personality but it may take a while for these to sink in and for them to respond if you don't want to overpay too much.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3030132]The Tambaqui [/QUOTE]It's popular in Manaus. I had Tambaqui with the first girl I dated on the first date and several other dates. I have bought a few types of fish meat to cook when I stayed in Manuas. I still remember one fish that is good to cook as steak for 5 USD/KG.

Fuck. You know Brazil is great when you have fucked so many girls you forgot one! I remembered that I didn't end up cumming in the duo and the night was young (1 AM) so off to Casarao I went for a nice surprise. Read on.

After some parting kisses I decide to see if I can blast that load out cheaply at Casarao which should be hopping by now. Sure enough it's packed. I spend the next several minutes wending my way through tons of people, Jack and Coke in hand.

Some moments later I am squeezing through bodies on the main level when I see K the bubbly half of the MMFF. She is talking to another guy but when she sees me she squeals and dropped the guy like a hot rock, throwing her arms around me.

From there is is sexy BFGF in the club. We catch a smoke on the back patio but mostly we are grinding in a less crowded corner of the club downstairs. While grinding she's put my hands on her tits and I am massaging the fuck out of them 24/7. They are perfect firm Cee cups. Yum. I'the forgotten she wears this tight short skirt and no panties so I'm lightly touching her pussy from back or front from time to time. What a wildcat!

And like the (spoiler alert!) bonus sex of day 3, K is a huge bonus because it's on for GFE bareback at my hotel. In the room am she is that bubbly party girl I remembered and the passionate sex with CIP is mind blowing.

She stays over and we have breakfast at the hotel to close things out. She is in the same short skirt and no panties at breakfast with all the older couples. Neither she nor I could give two fucks and that's the way it should be! Love me a confident girl.

So we close out day TWO having had BBFS with three girls and CIP with two of them! Wow. Only in Brazil.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3029966]
No. The girls who are charging R400 per hour at their apartment aren't the same ones charging R1200 at Scandello. Lots of first time posters think they can sweet talk a better price out of the club and it almost never happens.[/QUOTE]Agree with Anaggie. Also, while you may see an occasional Scandallo girl at Casarao, likely very late (I. E. 2-3 am), you will never see the reverse (I. E. Regular Carsarao girl at Scandallo). Most of them aren't hot or put together enough for Scandallo. Of course this is from a and of 7-8 at both places. I would also say it's exceptionally rare for you to seek a clinica girl at one of the Boates. They generally do the clinicas because they like the lifestyle and daytime work. Most frequently due to having a kid or trying to hide things from family. Also, why would a girl settle for R300 in a clinica when she could get R1000 at Scandallo?

Where I do see overlap is between Seeking Arrangement or Meu Patricinio and Scandallo. I have seen quite a few of those 'higher end' online girls at Scandallo. The quoted rates tend to be the same, +/- R300 and just comes down to your preference.

The percentage of the girls at Scandallo who goes home at the end of their day without making any money has to be pretty high.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3030200].. I would also say it's exceptionally rare for you to seek a clinica girl at one of the Boates. They generally do the clinicas because they like the lifestyle and daytime work. ...
[/QUOTE]I was surprised at seeing Clinica girls at Casarao. I was going to Clinicas daily back then. I met two Clinica girls at Casarao although it took me some time to place them because of the different make-up and dress-style.

I guess better late than never. My apologies for late reporting. Life took over after I got back from my wonderful escape from reality trip. Considering how much this forum helped me with my trip, this could be my way of thanking you all.

Spent 5 days in São Paulo and another 4 days in Rio not including the travel.

I will add Rio trip report in Rio forum as well.

At São Paulo, visited 2 x Scandello, 3 x Cassaro, 1 x Bomboa. Also visited Moema Prime, 57 friends. I also had couple of day time sessions with providers from photoacompanhantes. Stayed at EZ Aclimacao Hotel at Vila Mariana.

Used Uber for all transportation and worked without any issues.

Google Fi network worked seamlessly without any issues except for occasional data loss inside the buildings and needed a phone restart to fix issues.

On most days, I used local ATMs with my Charle Schwab debit card and did not see any issues. I think the upper limit was equivalent to around $200. I also exchange some USD to BR once in São Paulo and another time at Rio at a random exchange place I found on google maps. Both ATMs and exchange places did not give good exchange rate.

Stay EZ Acllimacao was decent and met all my expectations and on par with any 3 star hotel experience in the USA. Price was around $50 per night for a business studio with living area and king size bed. Very roomy and comfortable. Initially I booked a single room which was really small and asked for an upgrade. Front desk staff are very helpful. They don't have an ATM at the premises and couple of times I had to walk to near by business area to find an ATM.

Hotel was girl friendly and I took two girls to the hotel and had no issues taking them to my room.

My mongering experience is limited with few visits a year to Hong Kong club in Tijuana. So my comparison is solely based on my 4 years of HK experiences.

Scandello. Is great. Beautiful and friend women and really liked the ambiance. Food is fantastic. I visited twice and both time arrived there prior to 7:00 pm to avoid entry fee. Girls were asking any where from BR1200 to BR2500. I had two session in total at Scandello one for BR 1000 and another for $1200. GEF sessions and great introduction to Brazil. At HK it takes a while and couple of sessions to built the chemistry to get a GEF session and at Scandello it was readily available with most girls in my experience. On an avg it costed me $300 per visit but worth it IMO.

Cassaro. This is where I struck the economy gold. I reached there around 11:00 pm and stayed until 2:00 pm. Not Scandello quality but way better than non HK girls in Tijuana. At BR 600-800, considering GEF service they were real bargain. I had a total of 3 sessions at Cassaro and 2 of them also visited me at my hotel the next day. All in all a great experience at reasonable price.

Bomboa. Was a miss for me. It was a slow Sunday and there were only few girls. I would say less than 10. They all quoted Scandello price. Nothing worth mentioning.

Moema Prime. On my first visit there were only 3 girls and I picked Grazi. Incredible GEF session for BR300. For some reason we both clicked and for $50 it was an out of the world experience. I took her number and I saw her 3 more times during the day time. I am looking forward to seeing her again in Nov.

57 friends. Was a miss for me. May be I went there too early and lineup was not to my liking.

Couple of weeks before my trip, I started reaching out to handful of girls from photoacompanhantes via what's up. I invited couple of girls to my hotel during the day. One turned out to be an ok session and the other was excellent. Both were around BR 400 including uber fee.

All in all a fantastic trip and was completely drained out prior to my Rio trip. I am visited Brazil again in Nov and looking forward to visiting São Paulo again. This time I am planning on concentrating more on other Clinicas during the day and visit Cassaro in the night.

Went to Casarao last Saturday, today there were way more people than Tuesday. Line upon entry was packed with guys eager to enter. Once I entered I sat down on the first floor. In front of the Japanese old lady bartender. Usual stuff, next me there were two old men looked like there were from Dominican Republic only spoke Spanish. One of them kept chatting to a Loira which had big bunda and silicone tits, kept fondling her in all the good places. Old man looked like he struck heaven on earth. But not all things end up well. After a while the old man realizes that he has lost his wallet. In a panic he calls the guards who kept trying to find it. Loira tells that she didn't do it, and nearby garotas laugh and say they didn't see anything. Me personally didn't saw anything out of the ordinary. But being seated nearby they asked me to move from the bar to check. This is where I get frustrated, had to move and there was no spot to sit in the area, kept waiting and decided to call it quits and move to the underground floor.

Was looking to score a blue eyed Loira, sadly no good choices. There were some loiras but either somewhat at age 30's or with heavily surgically modified bodies. There were some babes in the area, I leaned into the corner by the end of the bard, glanced to my right and there it was. One hell of a beauty I saw, petite and slim body. Somewhat taller and with black hair. All natural and with the right curves. We kept staring until I moved to her she gave me her name we should call her K. Up close she was more beautiful with white skin and black hair she looked real good. Introductions went and everything, I immediately asked her to stay with me for the whole night, she countered with 1500 for all. Which I countered that I could only do 1000. She said okay that's not a problem. Then before we went out I told her that I was staying in the area of Guarulhos, which she seemed happy to know because she lives nearby.

To my surprise I was stunned, I came prepared to negotiations with an idea that it could be tough to convince a garota to come with me to a really far area. This moment is perhaps one of the most memorable of this journey. Everything felt effortlessly and when I asked her why she didn't even asked for more. She said that it was a way better deal to be close to her home and scoring. It makes sense so off we go.

I found the price reasonable since short term or 1 hour in rooms besides would cost between 300 to 700. Long term I have been asked between 1000 to as high as 2500. Have not considered lower like 800 or so. Would like feedback from any of you guys if you have pulled this off.

After paying the exit fee for her we went to the nearby hotels to pick her bags up, this area is where you also can see garotas changing in open view to her work clothes. I asked her if they had bathrooms or if girls just had a fetish for exhibitionism. She told me that it was better to o change in open view, rather than forming a line for a bathroom. Anyways I got a good look at her body when she started stripping to her clothes. We chatted some and then I called the Uber, went on our way and during the ride we holded hands and all the couple stuff.

After reaching the hotel in a good 40 minutes with barely any traffic. I registered her on the room and after entering we couldn't stop touching ourselves. We kissed a lot and I slowly removed her clothing. My god what an insane body. K had some natural see cups with a pretty tight body for a 24 year old. Kitty was hairless and her lips looked juicy. Decided to take a shower and we went together and it was very good time. Caressing her big round white bunda was a good feeling.

Before we started she was concerned about me paying her fee, she asked for payment before we did the deed, and this is were maybe I thought I could be in a bad situation and the girl would runaway after paying. I chatted told her what's the problem. She told me that she just wanted payment so we could do as we agreed. She had guys not want to pay her after completing it. After thinking it for some minutes well I chose to take the risk.

It was either the best fuck ever or the biggest fraud that could happen. Well things did go according to what we agreed and she asked me what I wanted to start with.

I asked her to start with a blowjob. Good idea this girl just kept sucking me nonstop for 20 minutes. Her technique was dam good. Afterwards we went with cowgirl for some long ass time. When I entered that pussy it was heavenly and warm. Her big ass was marvelous to smack and while fucking I kept on sucking her soft nipples, yum that was absolutely good.

Then we took a short break and kept chatting, honestly it wasn't that bad our conversations. Mostly general stuff and so so. We then went for round 2 in doggystyle and goddamit it was another sight to see her big ass in that position. I kept going at like like a madman. Sadly I could finish after fucking her for a long time.

We went to sleep because I was tired. Like absolute tired from going all day outside and not sleeping good last night. Woke up at 6 am and just then we started doing it again. Went again in cowgirl and it was good. We finished and we took showers again and we exchanged numbers for next time visit.

Things I would have done differently:

Chatted more to her and offer her a more lower price.

Things I learned from the last Casarao experience:

Not buying drinks for girls. (Find it a waste of money).

Overall I'm happy that everything went really well. From the moment I approached her to the way we fucked in the hotel.

It's not the usual when people go to Casarao to chose for all night. Because you don't know if the girl will be good in the bed or if her body is not what you wanted. But overall if one spend a whole night with a great garota I think it is better than standard one hour or 45 minutes. No pressure on both sides and better experience.

[QUOTE=Nounce;3030178]
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It's YMMV. You will find that the same girl that goes to Casarao will not charge Scandallo price if you read enough reports. So it is location dependent. They also may charge a little more than the going rate simply because they have worked at Scandallo despite they are not the hottest in the club.

This is common working girl behavior, just like many in Lleras In Medellin. They are good actors. I have reported and posted whatsapp conversations that one girl was belittling me about my offer when others paying something like 200 - 400 USD for her, I don't remember the actual number. But eventually she was eager to come to my apartment for like 50 USD. I also have girl showing me the conversation amongst themselves about how much they charge that I know wasn't true in my case. LOL. I think one will have success if you offer a reasonable rate to some Scandallo girls to come before their shift. Just like Lleras girls do.

Like Scadallo, Lleras also attracts some better family background and hotter girls. I go to both places looking for something that I can't find elsewhere. The majority of them are available for less elsewhere.

My observation is that girls do respond to generosity in money and nice personality but it may take a while for these to sink in and for them to respond if you don't want to overpay too much.[/QUOTE]Yes exactly, that's how women estimate their own price IE she saw another girl charging x amount. Then she must charge the average price around what she saw. What is flawed with this is that it doesn't account for the flaws of her and her beauty and kind of service provided. The best tactic for this stuff is to not accept it and walk away. I have found that my attitude of devil may care works absolutely great in this case. It is not that I try to haggle or anything I just find it so tedious and just completely forget it and look for something else. Women sense it in a way, that I have more options and I just generally don't care if it works or not. Curiously this also works in non pros, women also like this attitude.

[QUOTE=Fewdie;3030274]The percentage of the girls at Scandallo who goes home at the end of their day without making any money has to be pretty high.[/QUOTE]Sounds like I should be going there find gems at low prices.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3028851]It's amazing how two people can have very different opinions and experiences with the same hotel. I stayed at the Mercure Ibirapuera Privilege the first time I went to Sao Paulo and hated it. Didn't like my room (drafty with poor climate control, safe didn't work but they brought another one, horrible internet connectivity), terrible customer service (including room service), the restaurant environment was OK but didn't like the food, dumb asshole taxi drivers out front who couldn't seem to follow simple directions. Maybe it was just a bad one off, but I never gave them another chance after that. Discovered the Mercure Times Square on subsequent trips. Also in Moema, but even better situated if you ask me. Quiet (important given the air traffic in the area) but no restaurant, which I don't care about since there are plenty of places around to eat (including grocery stores) in easy walking distance. Also only a short walk to a big Bradesco branch and the Ibirapuera Shopping Mall just a little further away. Even found a nearby barbershop. The last time in Sampa, I stayed at the Wyndham in Moema. Never again as the air traffic noise was too constant and loud! For my next trip, I'm looking to move out of Moema altogether for a different experience.[/QUOTE]There is a restaurant but it's in the building two. That's where they serve the breakfast.

[QUOTE=Nordico;3030337]There is a restaurant but it's in the building two. That's where they serve the breakfast.[/QUOTE]OK, I never investigated any other building in the complex there and preferred going out to eat around there anyway. I like being out and about in Moema where it's easy to get around. I especially like Ibirapuera Shopping where there are plenty of places to eat plus ATMs for getting cash. But next time going to try another area. I have some good suggestions from other mongers who visit Brazil. Time for a change!

Agreed, the less attractive girls definitely don't do a room a day, heck might be a room every 3 days. I wonder what is considered a good income for girls per week. Top end girl probably can do 2 rooms a day making totaling 2500+ easy.

Also it seems Brazilian guys in groups at tables expect girls to drink with them all night before a room?

[QUOTE=Fewdie;3030274]The percentage of the girls at Scandallo who goes home at the end of their day without making any money has to be pretty high.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EyesWide;3030355] a day making totaling 2500+ easy.[/QUOTE]That would be about what the girls without a degree makes a month in a regular job. She will be making what a computer science graduate make a month in a week.

My first Scandallo girl was 500. She was still charging 500 1 or 2 years later and she bought a car by then. She was a blonde spinner. Another ISGer took her right after me so she is not bad looking and we both wrote a report. She just had a cosmetic surgery so she did not allow fingering.

The system benefits the club and the top girls. KTV is a better system for the girls. I asked a girl once elsewhere, would she choose a Toyota or Mercedes if both are the same price? I think it is more for short term gain for the girls with what is happening now. I would session them once at 1000+, but not everyday with the same girl.

Hi,

I am going for a business trip to SP. Arriving Wednesday 22nd and planned to go to a club. Anyone want to hang out at Scandallo Lounge? Otherwise any tips how to dress? My first time.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=ZuluTango25;3030289]I guess better late than never. My apologies for late reporting. Life took over after I got back from my wonderful escape from reality trip. Considering how much this forum helped me with my trip, this could be my way of thanking you all.

Spent 5 days in So Paulo and another 4 days in Rio not including the travel.

I will add Rio trip report in Rio forum as well.

At So Paulo, visited 2 x Scandello, 3 x Cassaro, 1 x Bomboa. Also visited Moema Prime, 57 friends. I also had couple of day time sessions with providers from photoacompanhantes. Stayed at EZ Aclimacao Hotel at Vila Mariana.

Used Uber for all transportation and worked without any issues.

Google Fi network worked seamlessly without any issues except for occasional data loss inside the buildings and needed a phone restart to fix issues.

On most days, I used local ATMs with my Charle Schwab debit card and did not see any issues. I think the upper limit was equivalent to around $200. I also exchange some USD to BR once in So Paulo and another time at Rio at a random exchange place I found on google maps. Both ATMs and exchange places did not give good exchange rate...[/QUOTE]Great report very useful for my upcoming trip.

Who was the excellent Photoacompanhantes girl? Looking online the site seems hit or miss as to what you might get.

Cheers.

Day 3.

My third day was going to be a sort of rest day. As I say that, you might think what? Steve is taking a day off from pussy? Is this an alternate universe? Fuck no! But it's going to be a relaxing real date night with C, the other half of the infamous MMFF a few months back, rather than a club night. I am really looking forward to seeing her.

As a refresher, in the MMFF, K is the crazy high energy bubbly girl (see day 2) and C is the laid back one. But see's BJ is more on point and she is a trooper. She's not going to leave you hanging with a hard dick if you are struggling to cum. She's going to double down and play it till she gets the payoff. Love that.

So I am planning a relaxing evening with see. A day off from the madness of the club. But wait, there's more! M texts me while I am at lunch and says she is going back to Brasilia where she is from (8 hour bus ride from SP! I say Boo I will miss you. And she says but I can see you again before I leave tonight!!

Well it's already 2 PM and see comes at 7. So I push see back to 8 and say OK come at three! She does and it's amazing slow meaningful sober sex. Honestly with her great BJ, amazing pussy bareback, and top shelf kissing it doesn't take long before I blow a load CIP while kissing deeply in Mish. Fuck that was good.

So with an extra unplanned fuck in the rearview I join see st the restaurant at 8 PM. We went to a great Michelin starred place where the food is tops and the service impeccable. See, who weighs all of 80 pounds soaking wet, admits she is a diehard foodie and enjoys herself immensely.

As dinner is ending I am thinking how much I like being with this sweet soul and don't really want it to be over soon. So I ask her "do you want to just go to the room or get a drink somewhere else?" I love this answer:

"I am yours tonight. So it's up to you!

God don't you just love a girl like that? All about making you happy. So I find a vibey little Japanese craft cocktails bar. Almost like a speakeasy. And we bop on over there. A little hidden away but we manage to find it.

We have the most amazing time. We are sitting at the bar which is fun because they will ask what you like maybe you like whiskey, but a little sweet and smoky. And voila they will magician that shit right up! See is over the moon with the vibe. She's another one of these hood girls that I love never done anything like this in her life and is mesmerized. And just watching it thru her eyes is electric.

After a good long time there and two stiff drinks we head back to the hotel. The details are a bit foggy now but I remember a few things very clearly.

First, her BJ remains on point. Just the right suction. Great BLS. The works. I of course reciprocate and give her some equally on point DATY which rocks her world.

I also remember fucking in the chair. I am sitting, and she is mounted up RCG and really bringing the motion. Feels epic. I just push up deep inside her and let er ride.

In the end, we move to the bed and Mish. I adore mish kissing and her kissing is so sexy. After lots of tongue wrangling I get to sucking on her tongue and licking and basically giving her tongue head. I would normally blow CIP but I am beat and end up calling it a night after a over an hour of nonstop sex.

She of course stays overnight and we have a nice cuddle. I am thinking about morning sex, which I don't usually do, since I didn't cum last night. But soon she bops to the shower. I am pretty sure this is a signal that morning sex is off and time to start our day.

But when I return from showering she is on the bed in only a thong. I thought this such a classy move. Basically if I didn't want to have sex she'the be like oh I was just relaxing let's go. But it is equally an invitation as she leaves little to the imagination.

Of course I take the invitation and begin kissing her. I found out last night that kissing and licking her neck and ears is her hot button. She gets goosebumps all over and really horny. Don't remember much except that sober sex is amazing and I get another crashing CIP.

In a little bit, I have a meeting but I ask her if she wants to stay and we will have sushi right after. She is down so we head over to sushi after my meeting. Great sushi and a nice venue. Again she eats like she hasn't for days. No idea where she puts it!

So a lovely day 3 and morning of day 4.

And my third girl CIP in three days is absolutely an unbreakable record.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3031143]Day 3 - The Adventures Continue: My third day was going to be a sort of rest day.
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So, a lovely day 3 and morning of day 4. And my third girl CIP in three days is absolutely an unbreakable record.[/QUOTE]Stop! You're killing me. I can't take any more. Great report, Steve. I am glad to hear you are enjoying yourself. I hope to return to SP a couple of days after Thanksgiving. Can't wait.

Ah good to have that perspective. Like with everything in life, winner take most, which just means hotties in all the places. I can see a hottie move to a slower boate to be the hottest one there and make more with less competition. And of course speaking Portuguese fluently, spending a longer time in Brazil and building a rolodex of garotas all improve pricing over time.

[QUOTE=Nounce;3030953]That would be about what the girls without a degree makes a month in a regular job. She will be making what a computer science graduate make a month in a week.

My first Scandallo girl was 500. She was still charging 500 1 or 2 years later and she bought a car by then. She was a blonde spinner. Another ISGer took her right after me so she is not bad looking and we both wrote a report. She just had a cosmetic surgery so she did not allow fingering.

The system benefits the club and the top girls. KTV is a better system for the girls. I asked a girl once elsewhere, would she choose a Toyota or Mercedes if both are the same price? I think it is more for short term gain for the girls with what is happening now. I would session them once at 1000+, but not everyday with the same girl.[/QUOTE]

Axel I'm going to back you away from the edge a little bit. Solid Bomboa experience and lame Scan experience. Sigh.

Day 4.

So today I am meeting my new ISG friend again. We are going to play some pool and then hit Bomboa for a change of pace. As it's sort of a supper club atmosphere we will eat dinner there.

We meetup at a pool place that he often goes to in Vila Olympia. But all the tables are taken and the wait is long. Instead we take a ten minute walk to a Bar which has six tables and is 100% vacant. We are the only ones there! Beers are cheap but the tables are absolute torture with the most unforgiving pockets ever. Nonetheless we laugh and play five rounds.

We hit Bomboa around 8 or 9 I think and it's fairly empty. But it has a nice high end vibe. If you have been to Scandallo, take the restaurant and cut it in half and you have Bomboa. Great food. High end atmosphere and top service. Basically like Scan but maybe 1/8 the size (Scan is mega!

If you go get the filet mignon nuggets in catupiry sauce. OMG. And enough for six people! I ate about a third and they were able to take the remainder to hungry girls upstairs.

I'the say on balance the girls here are just as pretty as Scan and a bit less expensive. But surely less selection and the vibe is monotone — that is, all you have is the supper club. At Scan you can match your mood. You have the restaurant, the dance club, two terraces. It's just way bigger and way more flexible to your mood.

So on balance Scan will win hands down every time. But if you want to mix it up a bit it's a solid choice. You won't likely be disappointed.

After dinner and some more drinks a girl comes to sit with me who is VERY pretty. I had fended off several others but I let her stay. She speaks no English but my Porto is sufficient for this context. After a bit of chat it's off to the room.

Good solid experience in the room though nothing to write home about. I don't recall but guessing I didn't cum since I say farewell to my friend and head to Scan. It must have surely been early still or I woulda gone to Casarao where K would have gladly barebacked me.

Scan as always is a blast but I clearly make an error in judgment in my selection as you will see.

I really don't recall arriving or if I cruised around much (writing this up a week late since it was kinda meh). I finally end up at a table in the club with the girl my friend talked to a lot on night 2. Her name is Karen. She seems quite a nice girl with marginally good English. She's quite heavily tatted but I don't mind. As many times as I've been to Brazil, I now find it sexy.

We talk about how she knew I was with M and she wanted to be respectful. But now that M has gone home, she's excited to be with me. Things are warming up when Clara (aka problem child) arrives. She was in my original Miami girl drinking crew (late joiner) and she seems nice enough so I invite her to join.

I'm not picking up on the vibe but in retrospect I think Karen wasn't pleased. But at the time Clara was just a new friend. Well that friend starts getting very friendly and has her hand massaging my dick right there in front of the stage. I must been a bit lit because I put Karen's hand there too and she obliges. Feels pretty great at the time but in retrospect I was forcing things and Clara was really drunk.

Eventually we all three go to the room but it ends up being very odd and basically a bust. Karen is showering and so Clara gives me a BJ. It's not very good and it's way too fast. I try to slow her down several times but she just keeps jack hammering. I HATE that. Girls think hammering you is going to get it done fast. For me it's the opposite. It's so unsexy she could do it till the rooster crows and I'the still be just sitting there asking her to slow down!

After a bit, Karen steps out of the shower and waves me in. OK so I join her. At first it's just some nice soap up but then she starts sucking my dick in the shower. This goes on for a little and we return to the room only to find Clara sleeping in the fetal position!

Long story short Karen manages to finish me despite the dead girl adjacent. We actually leave her in the room at the end of our time! I complain at the hotel checkout and she calls the manager buts it like ten minutes so I say fuck it. Forget about it. It's only 1000 R and I made a bad choice.

Fast forward to the next day I get a super nice long apology from Clara on Whatsapp and she says she will fully refund my money. Class move. I tell her 500 R is fine. It takes a couple days for the girls to get paid (used a card) but sure enough I get it back from Karen a few days later (who I guess got the full amount and is supposed to give the other girl her share.).

So that was a bit of a clusterfuck, but partly on me. Both the club and the girl showed some integrity. And that was the end of a less than stellar night 3 at Scandallo. Just goes to show Scan is only 98% awesome. You can have a dud night from time to time. And sometimes it's your fault.

Day 5.

Day 5 my buddy Mark is showing up and we have a big weekend planned with our girlfriends, but tonight is all about dining at the girl buffet. We get to Scandallo before 7 and settle in for some dinner. The food there is excellent. We split a picanha and a dragon roll. Both are very good, but the dragon roll slays every time.

It's a somewhat slow night, but as usual plenty to choose from regardless. We spent the first 90 minutes just hanging at our table and watching the girl parade. Always so fun to be king of the world.

After a bit, we saunter out to the patio, bottle of gin and bucket of Red Bull Tropical in tow. We get a really prime spot near the door where you can see the girls cycle in and out. A girl Mark saw last time, Bruna, shows up and starts courting him hard. And Karen -- the good half of the trainwreck duo -- shows up to chat me up. We all four hang for quite a bit, but then Mark and Bruna get to kissing and it's on. She knows her trade! I take Karen and off we go.

I really have a nice time in the room with Karen. She definitely knows what she is doing and is very open and submissive. She is massively tatted up which I don't mind, but fucking her doggie with the jaguar from her full backplate staring you in the eyes is a little distracting! Nonetheless, we have a nice time and I am glad we could get one on one after the lame Carla debacle.

When we left, we told the waiter to watch our drinks, so our table is still there, drinks waiting, when we return. Mark is always a little overtime in the room (they do charge extra) and this is no exception. Karen and I have a little kiss, but I tell her I know she is here to work and no problem seeing other guys. So off she goes.

I can't recall how long we are sitting before we are assaulted again. A girl named Raisa (pronounced Hi Suh) joins me and I really have no intention of taking her and tell her so, but she persists. She has pretty eyes and smile, but a hook nose that doesn't crank me. She has clearly natural DDs though and that can always be fun. But mostly no harm in talking, so we hang out and drink and smoke.

Mark gets fully assaulted by a girl in a black dress. I assume this assault must work on many guys -- but Mark and I are pros. She is ALL OVER HIM, rubbing his dick, putting his hand on her tits, saying she wants to suck his dick. Honestly it's just too much too soon and Mark shoos her away. But he is shortly joined by Larissa.

Larissa says "you don't remember me" to Mark and I guess they had a room together. He backpedals furiously, but eventually he remembers her and all is well. She has a smoking face and chest, though a little thick around the waist once the clothes come off (soon!

Mostly we just chat and drink and smoke for a VERY long time. I had told them we weren't going to the room again. But somehow, after a few more Gin Tropicals (Gin and Red Bull Tropical. Super popular with the girls and now my drink of choice) and it's on. We settle a solid price with both girls and head to a SINGLE room together. Mark and I have done MMFF before and are comfortable together. No sword crossing, but voyeurism completely within bounds.

When we checkin at the hotel desk, the room is going to be 768 R, which is more than the 2 x 340 rate, which surprises me a bit. But when we get to the room we see why. It's a long room with two full King beds. Didn't even know they had that at Scan -- must be the default for MMFF.

Raisa is solid but mechanical, especially in comparison to Mark and Larissa who are MAKING LOVE on the bed adjacent. We are going through the sexual motions and they are having a time like long lost lovers, which kinda sucks. My girl also adamantly refuses to suck balls -- not by saying so, but when I try to lift her head to move there, she gloms on to my shaft like a leach. So the BJ is pretty meh, but its really only the contrast to the LOVERS that is killing me.

We have a pretty fair go of it and her tits are amazing on her slim frame. I remember railing her in doggie pretty hard since she wouldn't BLS. 😝 I spend a lot of time watching Mark and Larissa while Raisa blows me.

At some point I somehow get Raisa to go over to their bed. At first I put Raisa on her knees on a pillow beside the bed, blowing me while I watch the live action porn. Good stuff. Later she is on her side on their bed blowing me and me fingering her same time. This is very, very good. But I can't cum no matter how hard I try.

Finally I get her fingering herself while I slowly jack myself to wank one out. I am really surprised when I feel the build and cum rather quickly and hard. I am being vocal prior to cumming which gives some warning, but Mark literally has to dive out of the way to avoid taking a body shot, and Raisa takes one full on, as she too dives for cover. It's a good solid shot and Mark showed his former football moves getting out the way like a scalded dog. Too fucking funny. And hey I got my nut -- first things first buddy!

I am sure we had some wind down drinks after, but don't really recall. It was early morning by then when we pack it in. Can't say it was my finest day at Scan, but that's because my bar is soooo high now. Fucking one nice girl (Karen) and having an MMFF (Raisa / Alyssa) with a comedic cum shot ending is pretty damn good. But its just par for the course at Scan. I've banked my birdies earlier in the week including the double birdie with M and Cutie.

It's all good. My girl and is staying over the weekend. And spoiler alert, its fucking fabulous!

Hello Gentlemen.

Firstly, thanks to all of you for your contributions to this forum. A wealth of SP knowledge.

I am in SP this week for my first trip here. If anyone in town is interested in meeting at a gentlemen's club (Scandallo seems great), let me know. Would be fun to exchange some stories of global adventures.

If not, no problem. As a veteran traveler to many similar destinations, I'll figure things out.

Cheers.

As you gathered, I love the club scene. Scandallo, Casarao, Bomboa. But frequently I hit upon a hottie at the club I want to repeat with. Both C and K from previous reports were Casarao girls. But every once in a while you hit a true diamond. Real girlfriend stuff where you want to spend every moment together. N is that girl for me in So Paulo. I did one session with her in November and was smitten. Spent three days together in May and three days again this time.

If you hve a week or more in So Paulo I highly recommend mixing it up between the clubs and full on 48-72 hours of girlfriend time. Day 2 was actually the most amazing in the room (report soon) but our first day was magical in so many ways. Read on for one of my best date nights ever.

Day 6 is the day my SP girlfriend N comes to my hotel for the weekend and I am soooo excited. Even though I've had fabulous girls all week, N is different. Like a true girlfriend that you really care about. She is not only drop dead gorgeous and a ball of energy; she really treats me like her boyfriend. She calls me her boyfriend. (In her cute Brasilian accent!) She fixes my hair a little if it's messy. She's always leaning in for a kiss in public no matter where. Just the total package.

Her regular job (she's not at Scan anymore) is as a DJ, which is 30% DJ and 70% dancing and twerking. You know that girl onstage who is soooo sexy everyone wants her? That's N. Shes is a full on party girl with amazing energy and knows the club scene well. No matter where we go I feel confident when I'm with her. And explore we will!

She shows up about 5 PM for our 4 PM meetup but that is par for the course and she stays in touch and sets expectations. So I kill some time with Mark and his girl and have a pre-game beer.

When she says she's on her way I head back to the hotel to greet her. She looks absolutely smoking in some long wide-leg light green jeans and a white long sleeve turtleneck top but cropped to show her perfect abs. She always looks amazing.

In perfect GF style she smiles her thousand watt smile, hugs me like she means it, and showers me in kisses. We are both thrilled to see each other. This isn't some transactional sex at this point.

We head on up to the room with no interrupt from reception Mercure is always great this way. She's only brought her purse, although she is staying two nights! She's not one to make a big production and I am amazed at all the shit she pulls out of there!

In the room it's like we have never left each other. That deep passionate tongue worship that only Brasileiras seem to understand how to do. Those amazing perfect firmness Dee Cups.

Pretty quickly she's got me on my back giving one of her amazing BJs. Best of the week by far. Lots of tongue around the head. Amazing eye contact. Even some dick to cheek slapping for good measure. And plenty of great in and out, including her deep throating the entire shaft. Not many girls can do that.

We go at it for a good hour with all the positions, DATY, and a lot more BJ to almost finish it. In the end, I shoot one out by my own hand and her on ball worship. Her BLS is very sexy and I get off 15" shot.

Post sex we are supposed to meet Mark and his girl but they have dropped off the face of the planet. So N and I have some drinks and apps in the hotel bar. Nice relaxing post sex haze.

Eventually they arise from their nap and we walk to Sushi just around the corner. To get things started we order a bottle of Saki. We all simultaneously say "oh shit!" when we see the size of it. It's easily 1. 5 liters. We going to have some fun with our girls tonight!

The sushi is excellent and we just about eat ourselves into a food coma. But we save a bit of energy for later. And we really want to party as couples before heading to the room. So we head out to play pool.

We play at a happening place on Rua Augusta called Ball Five or some such. N called it and it was a great call. She is such an awesome social tour guide as you will see! The bar is super crowded and all the pool tables taken, so we get a dinner table and start pounding the wine and laughing like a bunch of hyenas.

We kill two bottles and our table is finally ready. Me and N against Mark and his girl. These are long snooker tables with tight pockets, so much bad pool is played! But great fun is had. At some point we talk about bouncing to a dance club.

But where shall we go? Leave it to N, the party goddess. I don't know if she had been to this club before but she drags us down Rua Augusta for surely a half mile or more. We pass Casarao on the way! (BTW the entire half mile is one big party of bars and clubs. Amazing.).

Getting in the club is no easy task. There is lots of paperwork and IDs and all for the two giant gringos and their petite Brasileira hotties. I pay the cover going in and it's like 700 R for the four of us, which is like wow expensive. But it will be clear why in a minute.

Apparently N has bought us a VIP booth / cage. A giant bouncer leads us through packed bodies easily 400 people maybe more. It's like parting the fucking Red Sea. And it ain't easy! We arrive at a booth at the side of the dance floor. It has its own little dance area separated from the 400 in the dancing throng by a mesh cage. Def VIPs. It's pretty great and worth every penny. And only because my girlfriend is a native party queen. I absolutely love that! (P.S. We are the only white guys in the club. Prob wouldn't recommend going unless you have a Portuguese speaking goddess by your side.).

It is sooooo fucking loud you can't beleive. But the music is off the hook and the vibe incredible. At first Marks girl complains it's too loud and I think they are going to leave. But pretty soon she's dancing and she transforms into a sexy dancing beast. Super sexy dancing and twerking on her man.

N and I really go at it nonstop. I looove to dance and dance like I don't care. Because I don't. But I've danced with so many girls, starting with Thifany back in 2018, that I've gotten quite good. My Mexican sugarbaby told me I dance like a Puerto Rican. Taking that as a distinct compliment.

So N and I dance like fiends. Lots of twerking and grinding and roaming hands. We must dance for over two hours. Who knows? And have the time of our lives. Checkout is equally involved and it seems like they will detain us but eventually we exit and head for the hotel.

Mark had previously mentioned to his girl that all having sex in one room might be fun but I hadn't said anything to my girl. But back at the hotel we suggest having a fiesta in Marks room and everyone is down.

We party like rockstars with the remaining saki and both rolled joints and weed pens. Pretty sure everyone got quite lit. Maybe a half hour in I find myself alone on the balcony with N and we start making out like high schoolers. She's one of these girls where kisses are a direct line to her pussy firing up so only a minute later she is grabbing my dick and moaning.

I take her hands and move her to us facing along the balcony give the neighbors a treat and down she goes. Pants around my ankles she gives me an epic BJ. Maybe 10 minute in, I notice I can look around the curtain into the bedroom. Mark has his back to me and I can see his girl is facing him. I can't see what's going on but have a pretty good idea!

I've been drinking, so I am not shy and grab and by the hands and lead her into the bedroom, where Mark is seriously eating out his girl. I think and's a little tentative being with the other couple at first because rather than get on the bed she positions at the corner of the bed and I start fucking her standing and bent over. Fuck. So good.

Watching Mark eat pussy while I fuck N is very epic. Marks girl is going wild and it heightens the experience for all of us.

After a bit I move to the side of the bed and put and in the Steve position and start pile driving while watching Mark and his girl fuck just a few feet away. Later we move to mish side by side on the bed and pound and then more BJ on the corner of the bed.

In the end I was too drunk to cum, having fucked N earlier and 8 other girls earlier in the week! But a great time was had by all. If you haven't done an MMFF with a buddy, you need to do it. It's a lot less weird than you would think.

I didn't talk to my girl afterwards except for her to say she enjoyed it. Marks girl was definitely into seeing us in action. She told Mark it made her super wet and horny. Everyone being comfortable was great because (spoiler alert!) we going to repeat two more times getting more comfortable each time.

Wow. Yes Scan was great. But time with N is magical. And the four way dinners and pool and dancing and room time is just off the charts. Couldn't have more fun if I tried.

I had some time to kill before meeting a SB, so on the Brazilian forum, I found a well reviewed garota local online that goes by Stella. She charges R250 per hour and she convinced me to go for 3 hours. Scheduling was super easy on WhatsApp, I started while I was traveling the day before and totally forgot to discuss type of service, luckily it was not an issue. She requested Motel Swing after I suggested Motel Euphoria, then I decided to just bring her to my hotel room in the end. She arrived early while I was still at the bank, 11 AM for a scheduled 12 PM meet up, but patiently waited in the hotel lobby for me to return. Unfortunately, she looks nothing like the pictures on the website or the ones she will send you. I'm guessing she is about 25,5'5" and probably 140 lbs, a brunette branco. Facially, she was not attractive to me, so I was a bit disappointed. She is a recent baby mama and still lactating with large, although asymmetric, breasts. She has a nice body overall, she's pretty much lost the baby weight. She is a great kisser (DFK), good at teasing, funny and overall provided amazing service. Her buceta was pretty loose probably because of the recent baby (maybe with time it will tighten back up and or she will learn to kegel), but she was a trooper and it was the first time I've suck out breast milk since I was probably a baby. Her BBBJ and HJ were amazingly pleasurable, and she worked on me for a full 2 1/2 hours pretty much non stop. She seemed to enjoy sex and masturbation of both of us. After a while, she ask if it was the raincoat that was stopping me from finishing and before I knew it had slipped me inside her raw. I immediately pulled out because she seemed like a HM provider and we had a brief discussion. She claimed she was blood donor, had a baby, was clean and she trusted me, I declined and continued the session CFS. I treated her to a late lunch at the hotel restaurant after. Total damage 800 r+food. She contacted me on WhatsApp later to try and meet, but I ignored her.

Ratings: Face = 4, Body = 8, Attitude = 10, Service = 9.

With the understanding that Uber tracks all locations and you can't delete locations on an iPhone, I tried using an alternative rideshare app call 99 S. It's a local Brazilian rideshare app where you can pay with cash (I hoarded small change to do this), maybe a credit card (but I couldn't figure how) or PIX (don't have it). Even if the locations are kept on 99 S, the app only works in Brazil and I won't ever have to use 99 S around my co-workers, so I hope it is the perfect solution to help hide the hobby as I didn't want my Uber app history to be full of boates, massage parlors and love motels. Maybe the exulted senior members that speak Portuguese can provide more in site on whether 99 S was a good idea or if I'm just an idiot making dumb rookie mistakes.

I decided to partake in my first trip to Scandallo after RTFF. I agree, the women are beautiful and there are a lot of them, multiple flavors for everyone as long as you like DDG high end escorts. Scandallo really is a magnet boate for all the hottest garotas in Brazil. I arrived just before 7 PM and got in for the R400 (all going towards consumables). After spending a week with a SB, I was getting use to having a garota sleep over. Unfortunately, due to my lack of flexibility and seeking OVN, I basically struck out at Scandallo. There appears to be a transition around 8 PM where the day garotas that started at 12 PM are leaving and the evening garotas start arriving (slowly working their way onto the floor as they get ready).

I bought dinner and a drink for a day garota P (21 years old, beautiful, thin, natural bodied blonde, probably 5'4" and 110 lbs). She was willing to session upstairs, but I was looking for OVN, which she did not do and would have likely been too tired to do anyway. Even though she doesn't do OVN, she will be headed to Singapore to work (lucky for them, she's a real beauty) and I wonder how common this is. Singapore is literally on the other side of the planet and I hope she isn't and doesn't get trafficked, as she only speaks Portuguese. Either way, I wish her safety because she was a really sweet girl. She was willing to spend the next day with me if I paid her fine and R5000 from 2 PM to 8 PM, but I declined.

Over the course of the evening, I bought garota after garota drinks. G was another 21, beautiful, thin, natural bodied blonde, probably 5'7" and 120 lbs. She only works part time, based on looks I'm guessing she doesn't have any trouble getting business. She spoke English, and her OVN rate started at R5000 and I couldn't get her below R4000. I moved onto a 25 pretty thin brunette that was fluent in English and she quoted me $1000 or basically R5300 overnight with no room for negotiation. I tried a 28 natural bodied girl next door, blonde, a little thicker, who also started at R5000 for OVN, she came down to R6000+double fines for 2 nights, but decided I against it. Another 26 brunette and same thing, started at R5000 and couldn't get negotiation below R4000. I was basically expecting to pay R3000 for an OVN, maybe my expectations were misplaced or I'm just bad at negotiating, I tend not to push too hard though because in the back of my mind I think it effects service. I gave up on Scandallo and paid about R1000 to exit. Full strike out.

Rideshare to Casarao, a totally different vibe, definitely not high end, but still some really pretty garotas. Not in the safest of neighborhoods, there were a lot of dudes standing around and some SW outside. I found a really cute 20 years old ultra branco brunette with big natural tits, slightly chubby. Her face was angelic, about as cute as they come. I had to verify her age because her dream is to go Disneyland and she looked very young. I bought her a drink, we did some negotiations and I made sure I was getting DFK, BBBJ and CFS when we got to the hotel and again in the morning. I agreed to her initial quote of R1300 and she said she would stay until 8 AM and off we went. She had to grab her bag and change shoes to sneakers. Then I felt bad after looking at how beat up her sneakers were, but this is a business. We arrived at the Wyndham Ibirapuera to an all female front desk and I could not get past them without registering her because the elevators to the main tower are behind the front desk. I got plenty of push back, but they eventually let her through after copying her ID. We went upstairs, showered and proceeded. She asked for money up front and I already had it on the night stand. She was a good kisser but limited DFK, the BBBJ was average (maybe an outlier to the theory that chubby girls give the best BJ, which pretty much has been my experience in the hobby and life), but she was very cute with my dick in her mouth so I didn't mind that much. She is a recent baby mama, see-section, so not all stretched out down below. She still has some baby weight to lose. We went at it for about an hour, multiple positions, but her inexperience was evident and she started to tire and I did most of the heavy lifting, it was 3 AM, so we went to sleep. I woke up super early with a hard on and tried to wake her, but she declined. Around 7 AM, we both woke up and went at it for another hour, no finish because we ran out of time. Then I made the big mistake of sending her home at 8 AM dress as she was the night before in front of all the families and children having breakfast. I now know there's a very good reason most girls want to leave around 4-5 AM in the morning to avoid this walk of shame. Overall, it was a decent session for R1300+Exit fee. I could feel the stink eye from the female front desk staff the next day, enough that they didn't want to extend my stay when I asked about staying an extra night.

Ratings: Face = 9, Body = 5, Attitude = 7, Service = 7.

With no plans, I decided to try some nearby massage parlors. Around 12 PM, Moema Prime had no garotas ([URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/itbPvuvg259GT4rg9.[/URL]) Av Irai 511 Moema. Mon-Fri 10 AM-9 PM Sat-Sun 11 AM-7 PM. Miruna Massagem had 3 garotas, but none that floated my boat ([URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/4sxBrVP621ShFyf68[/URL]) Ave Miruna 644 Moema. Mon-Fri 10 AM-9 PM Sat-Sun 12 PM-7 PM. Abbobora had a decent line up ([URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/n55rLKJLTS7ZCm7cA[/URL]) Alameda dos Guaramonmis 1275 - Mon-Fri 12-9 PM Sat 11 AM-7 PM. I went with Anita, R800 for 2 hours including room. A pretty mulatto, 34 years old although she looks younger, old see-section scar but everything has tightened back up, very skinny, fit, small ass, small tits, but enough for a handful / mouthful. She really knows how to use her body and it was nice to have an experienced provider. Her BBBJ and HJ were excellent. CFS was very good with her kegeling through multiple positions. I finished in an hour and she gave me a damn good massage after. I got a BBBJ and HJ in the last 15 minutes to pass the time after the massage and talking.

Ratings: Face = 7, Body = 9, Attitude = 9, Service = 10.

After striking out at Scandallo the previous night, I decided to try Bomboa. In retrospect, I really need to be more flexible, but I still had stuck in my head OVN. Bomboa is a lot smaller than Scandallo, there were fewer garotas, but the ratio was still pretty good. There was live music, and the garotas were only a slight step down in visual quality, with plenty of variety on this particular Friday (the options even included a garota with dwarfism). I made the mistake of allowing a concierge to show me around and bring me my first girl (a complete waste of money given how small the place is and I ended up tipping him 10% at the end of the night). The garota he brought me was a beautiful branco brunette, 21, thin, natural bodied, but did not do OVN. She quoted me R1000 to go upstairs and said she was excited to start working at Scandallo in October (my trip was in September) and nervous about whether she would be able to make it there. I moved on and kept buying garotas drinks, prices seemed to be R1000 to go upstairs and R4000 OVN with some negotiating down to R3000 OVN. I got sucked in by a 22 year mulatto visiting from Rio, blonde hair, cute, a bit thicker overall but flat tummy and well proportioned with a big bunda. At Bomboa, she was very affectionate, DFK, petting, etc. We agreed on R2500 OVN until 5 AM, but I made the mistake of not working out the details. I paid R2000 to leave including her exit fee and the silly tip for the concierge that introduced me to one garota that I didn't session. Back at the Wyndham Ibirapuera, I decided to sneak her in by taking a hard left at the entrance, walking up the stairs to the Mezzanine and taking the elevator from there to avoid the female desk staff. Then things started to go poorly, she asked for money up front and it was all business, she inspected every note under the light. After showering, DFK, but then she sprung CBJ on me, my first CBJ in Brazil over 3 trips (BBBJ was available for R500 extra). The sex was good, but would have been much better if she didn't insist on using the ultra thick condom she brought (she didn't trust the Trojan bareskins I used this entire trip). I finished in missionary about 1/2 hour in. We cuddled for a bit, but then she said she was tired when I tried for round two. 3:30 AM, I started initiating morning sex, but she complained of a headache and requested R700 extra for a second round. So basically one shot for R2500+R2000 spent at Bomboa.

Ratings: Face = 8, Body = 7, Attitude at Bomboa = 9, Attitude at the hotel = 5, Attitude next morning = 0, Service = 5.

I went back to Abbobora around 12 PM looking for another session with Anita who said was working, but it must have been somewhere else because she wasn't in. After the line up, I ended up sessioning with Clara. Very branco, tall brunette, 26 year old, huge round natural DDs, narrow waist and big bunda. Went for 2 hours for R800. Pretty skilled, good BBBJ and HJ, kind of loose down below, maybe baby damage or maybe because she was like 5'10". Pretty from the nose up, so at least she looked good giving head, but her mouth, chin and neck really sink her face rating. She worked on me for 2 hours with no finish, alternating CFS multiple positions, titty fucking, motor boating (had to do it because it was biggest set of tits this my entire trip), BBBJ and HJ. She really put in maximum effort.

Ratings: Face = 6, Body = 8, Attitude = 9, Service = 9.

My SB flaked on me last minute, I was hoping for one last session of BBFS. But the consolation prize was Scandallo before my late flight. I needed to get in and get out fast because I had R2800 to spend and a flight to catch. I arrived and I bought a drink for the first pretty thing I saw. We talked for way too long, I was on a time crunch. A lot more garotas showed up later and the ratio was in our favor on this Saturday, unfortunately, I couldn't enjoy it in all its splendor. L was a small 25 year old branco brunette, very pretty, tiny tits (not even a handful), small ass, small tummy that she hide with her dress. She was nice and snug down below and she knew what she was doing. She helped me better understand why everyone raves about Scandallo, based on this experience, Scandallo girls are well trained and pretty, there is was no clock watching as going over a bit doesn't seem to be any big deal. I made sure to negotiate my expectations, she started at R2000 for an hour and we agreed on R1500. Upstairs, it was DFK, BBBJ, CFS in multiple positions. After going a bit over an hour, I finished BBBJCIM, which she choked on and caused her to throw up because she apparently can't stand the taste or smell. It's got to be tough on a girl to be in the business and have PTSD over the taste and smell of cum. Payment came after as it probably always should and while I was counting out the real, she joked about a tip, so I gave her an extra R200. Entrance R600. Room R340. L R1700 including tip. A nice end to the trip.

Ratings: Face = 8, Body = 7, Attitude = 10, Service = 10.

[QUOTE=EasyIslandLife;3031859]With the understanding that Uber tracks all locations and you can't delete locations on an iPhone, I tried using an alternative rideshare app call 99 S. It's a local Brazilian rideshare app where you can pay with cash (I hoarded small change to do this), maybe a credit card (but I couldn't figure how) or PIX (don't have it). Even if the locations are kept on 99 S, the app only works in Brazil and I won't ever have to use 99 S around my co-workers, so I hope it is the perfect solution to help hide the hobby as I didn't want my Uber app history to be full of boates, massage parlors and love motels. Maybe the exulted senior members that speak Portuguese can provide more in site on whether 99 S was a good idea or if I'm just an idiot making dumb rookie mistakes.

I decided to partake in my first trip to Scandallo after RTFF. I agree, the women are beautiful and there are a lot of them, multiple flavors for everyone as long as you like DDG high end escorts. Scandallo really is a magnet boate for all the hottest garotas in Brazil. I arrived just before 7 PM and got in for the R400 (all going towards consumables). After spending a week with a SB, I was getting use to having a garota sleep over. Unfortunately, due to my lack of flexibility and seeking OVN, I basically struck out at Scandallo. There appears to be a transition around 8 PM where the day garotas that started at 12 PM are leaving and the evening garotas start arriving (slowly working their way onto the floor as they get ready).

I bought dinner and a drink for a day garota P (21 years old, beautiful, thin, natural bodied blonde, probably 5'4" and 110 lbs). She was willing to session upstairs, but I was looking for OVN, which she did not do and would have likely been too tired to do anyway. Even though she doesn't do OVN, she will be headed to Singapore to work (lucky for them, she's a real beauty) and I wonder how common this is. Singapore is literally on the other side of the planet and I hope she isn't and doesn't get trafficked, as she only speaks Portuguese. Either way, I wish her safety because she was a really sweet girl. She was willing to spend the next day with me if I paid her fine and R5000 from 2 PM to 8 PM, but I declined.

Over the course of the evening, I bought garota after garota drinks. G was another 21, beautiful, thin, natural bodied blonde, probably 5'7" and 120 lbs. She only works part time, based on looks I'm guessing she doesn't have any trouble getting business. She spoke English, and her OVN rate started at R5000 and I couldn't get her below R4000. I moved onto a 25 pretty thin brunette that was fluent in English and she quoted me $1000 or basically R5300 overnight with no room for negotiation. I tried a 28 natural bodied girl next door, blonde, a little thicker, who also started at R5000 for OVN, she came down to R6000+double fines for 2 nights, but decided I against it. Another 26 brunette and same thing, started at R5000 and couldn't get negotiation below R4000. I was basically expecting to pay R3000 for an OVN, maybe my expectations were misplaced or I'm just bad at negotiating, I tend not to push too hard though because in the back of my mind I think it effects service. I gave up on Scandallo and paid about R1000 to exit. Full strike out. [/QUOTE]Maybe just using a taxi is easier than trying to get another app to hide your locations. Pay cash to the taxi and give them the name / address of the place you want to go to.

The girls at Scandello are starting to quote crazy prices for overnights. Happened to me on my last trip in September. A few of the girls said R4-5000 for overnight but ultimately settled for R2000 which is what I will pay. It will all come down to how good you are at negotiating and whether you are willing to let her walk. I tell the girls that I visit pretty regularly and pay R2000 for an overnight. They can either choose to accept it or move on. Some will try to negotiate to R3000 but I stand firm at 2000. Most will accept especially if it is later at night since their chances to make money gets slimmer.

Makes sense as night gets later prices drop. SocratesNY had a good long post about pricing and your R2000 confirms. I think girls also will try to overcharge gringos, especially if they don't speak much portuguese as in the case of the original poster.

Couple questions about overnights as I don't think any posts cover this.

1. What time do people normally do takeout, like 2 AM in the morning? I am assuming trying at 11 pm = much higher prices.

2. For takeout, do the girls end up taking off their makeup before going to sleep? To me, makeup is necessary for a girl to be at their maximum optics because I go to boates to live a fantasy.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3031925]The girls at Scandello are starting to quote crazy prices for overnights. Happened to me on my last trip in September. A few of the girls said R4-5000 for overnight but ultimately settled for R2000 which is what I will pay. It will all come down to how good you are at negotiating and whether you are willing to let her walk. I tell the girls that I visit pretty regularly and pay R2000 for an overnight. They can either choose to accept it or move on. Some will try to negotiate to R3000 but I stand firm at 2000. Most will accept especially if it is later at night since their chances to make money gets slimmer.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EasyIslandLife;3031859]With the understanding that Uber tracks all locations and you can't delete locations on an iPhone, I tried using an alternative rideshare app call 99 S. It's a local Brazilian rideshare app where you can pay with cash (I hoarded small change to do this), maybe a credit card (but I couldn't figure how) or PIX (don't have it). Even if the locations are kept on 99 S, the app only works in Brazil and I won't ever have to use 99 S around my co-workers, so I hope it is the perfect solution to help hide the hobby as I didn't want my Uber app history to = 7.[/QUOTE]For the hot but jealous brasilian girlfriend that wants to use my damn phone to order an uber just so her ass can go to the fvcking bem barato supermercado or sam club in jabaqura I use the switch account feature under uber settings. I have two seperate emails address within a single uber account. I switch between the let me have a fun night out banging away two nubile young 20 year brancas that swallow every thing. Because they need fast money presents for DIA de crianças. So we meet up in the hotel for lovers for afternoon brasilian threesome. Then switch back to the brasilian girlfriend friendly uber account. See I didn't go anywhere except church on Sunday kkkk.

Double benefit I can order uber gift cards from both accounts to send her instead using my goddamn phone.

[QUOTE=EasyIslandLife;3031853]I had some time to kill before meeting a SB, so on the Brazilian forum, I found a well reviewed garota local online that goes by Stella. She charges R250 per hour and she convinced me to go for 3 hours. Scheduling was super easy on WhatsApp, I started while I was traveling the day before and totally forgot to discuss type of service, luckily it was not an issue. She requested Motel Swing after I suggested Motel Euphoria, then I decided to just bring her to my hotel room in the end. She arrived early while I was still at the bank, 11 AM for a scheduled 12 PM meet up, but patiently waited in the hotel lobby for me to return. Unfortunately, she looks nothing like the pictures on the website or the ones she will send you. I'm guessing she is about 25,5'5" and probably 140 lbs, a brunette branco. Facially, she was not attractive to me, so I was a bit disappointed. She is a recent baby mama and still lactating with large, although asymmetric, breasts. She has a nice body overall, she's pretty much lost the baby weight. She is a great kisser (DFK), good at teasing, funny and overall provided amazing service. Her buceta was pretty loose probably because of the recent baby (maybe with time it will tighten back up and or she will learn to kegel), but she was a trooper and it was the first time I've suck out breast milk since I was probably a baby. Her BBBJ and HJ were amazingly pleasurable, and she worked on me for a full 2 1/2 hours pretty much non stop. She seemed to enjoy sex and masturbation of both of us. After a while, she ask if it was the raincoat that was stopping me from finishing and before I knew it had slipped me inside her raw. I immediately pulled out because she seemed like a HM provider and we had a brief discussion. She claimed she was blood donor, had a baby, was clean and she trusted me, I declined and continued the session CFS. I treated her to a late lunch at the hotel restaurant after. Total damage 800 r+food. She contacted me on WhatsApp later to try and meet, but I ignored her.

Ratings: Face = 4, Body = 8, Attitude = 10, Service = 9.[/QUOTE]Your candid SP first timer reports are fun to read. Could you please share additional intel such as links to public profile / ad. This helps other mongers easily decide whether to pursue or take a pass. Thanks!

[QUOTE=EyesWide;3031975]Makes sense as night gets later prices drop. SocratesNY had a good long post about pricing and your R2000 confirms. I think girls also will try to overcharge gringos, especially if they don't speak much portuguese as in the case of the original poster.

Couple questions about overnights as I don't think any posts cover this.

1. What time do people normally do takeout, like 2 AM in the morning? I am assuming trying at 11 pm = much higher prices.

2. For takeout, do the girls end up taking off their makeup before going to sleep? To me, makeup is necessary for a girl to be at their maximum optics because I go to boates to live a fantasy.[/QUOTE]My SB wore minimal to no make up during entire trip. Her face was a solid 7 with no make up to go with the perfect 10 body, that plus the make up sex are the only reasons I tolerated the mood swings and nights with no sugar with basically wifey. The garota from Casarao, I took home around 1:30 AM. She did not take off her make up and looked fine in the morning, granted not dressed to walk out in front of families and children. The garota from Bomboa, I took home around 12 AM. Make up stayed on, but she was really hungover and looked less pristine when leaving. With OVN, I don't really sleep, I think the goal is more like nap for a couple of hours between sessions. The attempts to take home from Scandallo ranged from 10 PM-12:30 AM, so fairly early in the evening which might explain the high prices to go with the non Portuguese speaking gringo mark up.

I will have to figure out how to switch accounts on Uber as an alternative or learn enough Portuguese to use a taxi properly. When I switch profiles on Uber, my entire history is still visible, so it looks like I will have to create an actual new account.

[QUOTE=Kib123;3031986]Your candid SP first timer reports are fun to read. Could you please share additional intel such as links to public profile / ad. This helps other mongers easily decide whether to pursue or take a pass. Thanks![/QUOTE]I don't completely understand the rules of posting links as I don't know what qualifies as a competing forum, but Stella's link is [URL]https://garotacomlocal.com/acompanhante/stella-queiroz/.[/URL]

Due to really bad insomnia, using a VPN connected to Sao Paulo, I had the chance to translate and read a lot of reviews on the Brazilian forums and organized some well reviewed GDPs by neighborhood. Please understand I have not sessioned with any of these garotas, and I always take reviews with a grain of salt because of sandbaggers. YMMV. Stella was listed as pretty, and in my opinion she was not. I would include the links to the actual reviews which would be enormously helpful, but the posting rules state I can't add links to competing forum. If I'm misinformed, please let me know and I can repost with the links to the Brazilian forums with the reviews. FYI, the Sao Paulo forum is super easy to use these days with Chrome as Google will translate the reviews for you.

Moema.

[URL]https://clubmodel.com.br/acompanhantes/leticia-arantes[/URL]

R500 per hour. Single review that reports she is a pretty brunette, natural body with big tits and big bunda, flat tummy, DFK, speaks English, maybe 24 years old.

[URL]https://manuelalins.********.com/[/URL]

R400 - Big bunda, blonde hair, flat tummy, beautiful face, 5'3", maybe 24.

[URL]https://splove.com.br/DudaMasako[/URL]

R800 - Positively reviewed young Japanese girl, small tits, slight tummy.

Vila Mariana.

[URL]https://garotacomlocal.com/acompanhante/alana-amorim/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/vila-mariana/ninfeta-safadinha-pele-branquinha-e-macia-com-promo-120-id-cyajv[/URL]

R200 - At Casa Amarela 170 Vila Mariana. Young baby mamma with big ass and big natural tits, young branco.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/vila-mariana/garota-galeguinha-rosinha-faz-gostoso-e-com-gosto-id-h7y56[/URL]

R400 - Natural tits, DFK, pretty face, blue eyed blonde, branco, maybe 25. All recent reviews from 1 person maybe a sandbagger, other reviews are positive but quite old.

[URL]https://www.ellasmassagistas.com.br/model/thulle-montes/[/URL]

R500 - Beautiful, tatted, branco Goth chick. Nuru massage and Dominatrix mentioned.

[URL]https://www.private55.com/sao-paulo/acompanhante/rafaela-drummond[/URL]

[URL]https://x.com/rafa_a_drummond/media[/URL]

R250 - My Flowers Motel mentioned, well reviewed, balloons, big ass, small tummy, tatted, blonde, into anime.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/vila-mariana/ninfeta-apertadinha-toda-natural-amor-com-local-id-83teb[/URL]

R350 - 1 good review says she is prettier than the pictures, brunette, natural body, small tits, a bit of a tummy, big bunda, younger.

Jardins.

[URL]https://guiadasmassagistas.com.br/massagem/natalia-massagem-jardins/[/URL]

R300 - Watch out for the duplicates and fakes, pretty, mature, a lot of reviewers favorite for service, hard to schedule, very busy.

Liberdade.

[URL]https://x.com/melissa_sp2020[/URL]

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/acompanhante-linda-e-gostosa-disponivel-agora-id-fddek[/URL]

[URL]https://confrariars.com.br/acompanhante/melissa-alves/[/URL]

R350 per hour, R1100 4 hours, R2000 overnight. Pretty, green eyes, black hair, skinny and small, small tits, small ass, estimated age 25.

[URL]https://garotacomlocal.com/acompanhante/jamilly-maia/[/URL]

R500 - Young, reviewers say prettier in person, big ass, big tits, slightly thicker, DFK.

[URL]https://x.com/Daaniella222[/URL]

R500 - Beautiful, small tits, natural fit body, big ass, somewhat tough to schedule, years of great reviews, DFK.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/liberdade/namoradinha-super-carinhosa-alternativa-e-cheia-de-tesao-id-6jmvc[/URL]

[URL]https://www.private55.com/sao-paulo/acompanhante/ariane-kimiko[/URL]

[URL]https://pt.pornhub.com/model/ariane-kimiko-oficial[/URL]

R500 - Young porn star, branco, pretty, goth chick, into cosplay, small tits, slight tummy, big bunda, dominatrix available.

[URL]https://www.private55.com/sao-paulo/acompanhante/luma-pacini[/URL]

[URL]https://garotacomlocal.com/acompanhante/luma-pacini/[/URL]

[URL]https://x.com/LumaPacini/media?t=XgIT2x6FsxwKZsxAlmVvlQ&s=08[/URL]

R300 - slightly thicker with a big bunda, big natural tits, branco, pretty, 5'7", years of excellent reviews, recently returned to service after a couple years off.

[URL]https://www.private55.com/sao-paulo/acompanhante/bianca-battist[/URL]

R500 - Pretty blonde branco with big bunda, sometimes traveling for work, younger, great BJ, DFK, 5'8".

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/novinha-safadinha-do-oral-babado-vamos-gozar-juntinhos-id-fymdh[/URL]

R500 per hour, R1000 for 3-4 hours. DFK, well reviewed, short, medium build, full schedule.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/ninfeta-pronta-para-te-dar-muito-prazer-e-te-satisfazer-totalmente-venha-me-conhecer-agora-mesmo-id-q8uzv[/URL]

R300 - Well reviewed, estimated age 25, gone for a couple of years and had a baby, still lactating.

[URL]https://www.private55.com/sao-paulo/acompanhante/pillar-castro[/URL]

R1300 - Pretty young thing, beautiful, natural body, big bunda.

Ipiranga.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/ipiranga/tua-ninfetinha-bem-safadinha-fa%C3%A7o-video-chamada-antifake-id-fvcdk[/URL]

R185 - At Rua Clemente Pereira and Rua Silva Bueno. No DFK, bathroom is down the hall, hard to schedule.

Bela Vista.

[URL]https://garotacomlocal.com/acompanhante/julia-mendes-20/[/URL]

R400 - Many excellent reviews, thin branco, cute with freckles, brunette, GFE, smoker.

[URL]https://garotacomlocal.com/acompanhante/mielle-fleming/[/URL]

R250 - Pretty redhead, nice body, big bunda.

Jabaquara, So Paulo.

[URL]https://garotacomlocal.com/acompanhante/sam-oliveira/[/URL]

R350 - Her apt is messy, it's recommended you pay extra for a Motel and Uber. Several good reviews, young, black hair, thin, smoker, still learning and not always motivated, no DFK.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/zona-sul/vem-mamar-os-meus-peitos-e-curtir-meu-gemidinho-delicioso-id-dg86f[/URL]

R200 - Young, big natural tits, a little thicker, DFK, young so she has her bad days.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/liberdade/moreninha-mignon-de-olhos-puxados-garanto-o-melhor-valor-id-yee8s[/URL]

R150 - Thick, but she is pretty and has 12 pages and 5 years of excellent reviews. Black hair, big bunda. Can book a marathon 4-6 hours with unlimited cum shots. One review mentioned she'll literally suck your dick BBBJ for hours CIM.

Santa Amaro.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/santo-amaro/ninfetinha-estilo-namoradinha-local-incluso-a-partir-de-120-id-sjk8a[/URL]

R200 - At Prive on Rua Francisco Arvani, Santo Amaro. Place has no A / see, young tiny thing, small tits, small ass, shy, CBJ, very tight, won't let you finger, sometimes they bait and switch with.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/santo-amaro/sua-putinha-safada-te-esperando-cheia-de-tesao-com-local-id-73zp3[/URL]

R200 - A bigger girl, open to a lot more such as BBBJ, and generally provides better service.

Lapa.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/lapa/deliciosa-ruivinha-sensual-tenho-tudo-que-voce-deseja-id-s547v[/URL]

R200 - Typically services Hotel Queen, pretty, big bunda, natural tits, no DFK, 3 some available with.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/zona-norte/estilo-namorada-sem-frescuras-e-sem-limite-de-finaliza%C3%A7ao-id-wqv5h[/URL]

R200 - Typically services Hotel Queen, pretty, big bunda, balloons, more mature.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/lapa/gosto-de-ceu-quente-como-no-inferno-e-doce-como-o-amor-ampid-m9hah[/URL]

R250 - DFK, great body with big natural tits and big bunda, flat tummy, strong perfume.

YMMV. I did the same thing with Rio providers. Please let me know if anyone thinks this useful. I've also condensed and summarized massage parlors in Moema. I have a serious insomnia problem.

[QUOTE=EyesWide;3031975]Makes sense as night gets later prices drop. SocratesNY had a good long post about pricing and your R2000 confirms. I think girls also will try to overcharge gringos, especially if they don't speak much portuguese as in the case of the original poster.

Couple questions about overnights as I don't think any posts cover this.

1. What time do people normally do takeout, like 2 AM in the morning? I am assuming trying at 11 pm = much higher prices.

2. For takeout, do the girls end up taking off their makeup before going to sleep? To me, makeup is necessary for a girl to be at their maximum optics because I go to boates to live a fantasy.[/QUOTE]1) I play it by ear and see how the vibe is with the girl or of the place. If I feel like partying and like the girl, I tell her that I plan on staying and partying and she is welcome to hang out with me till we decide to go home for the night or she can walk around and look for more clients to work till I decide to leave. But that goes both ways. If I find another girl who decides to hang with me and wants to party, then she gets the opportunity to go home with me. This usually keeps them in place and I get to fool around with her while enjoying the party and getting her worked up so she really gets horny and in the mood. Some girls will stay and hold on to the "bird in hand" and some will look for the "two in the Bush". Happened to me in June and the girl I liked wanted R4 k for the night. I told her 2 and then told her to walk around and try to earn the other 2 k while I party with my friends. We agreed that by the end of the night, we will meet up and she would go with me for 2 k whether or not she earned the other 2 k. End of night comes and I am with another girl and she come into the booth and asks when I am leaving and she wants R3 k. I told her nope. I got mine for R2 k and she went home emptyhanded.

2) Most of mine have left it on till after the first round when they take a more thorough shower. Usually the first shower is just a quick rinse. But depends on the girl and I am sure you can just tell them to leave it on.

Do write about your experiences.

[QUOTE=EasyIslandLife;3032176]My SB wore minimal to no make up during entire trip. Her face was a solid 7 with no make up to go with the perfect 10 body, that plus the make up sex are the only reasons I tolerated the mood swings and nights with no sugar with basically wifey. The garota from Casarao, ..

I will have to figure out how to switch accounts on Uber as an alternative or learn enough Portuguese to use a taxi properly. When I switch profiles on Uber, my entire history is still visible, so it looks like I will have to create an actual new account.[/QUOTE]I setup two uber accounts, one with US phone number & email, the other one with local brasilian phone number & different email. I went through the steps to have it verified by uber.

Unfortunately I didn't write down all the steps but the girlfriend friendly uber ride profile doesn't show anything from the night out with a "the of blonde & morena sexy garotas" naughty uber profile. I know this cause jealous brasilian girlfriend just ordered us an uber using my phone and was carefully eyeing uber locations and uber cache.

[QUOTE=EasyIslandLife;3032178]Due to really bad insomnia, using a VPN connected to Sao Paulo, I had the chance to translate and read a lot of reviews on the Brazilian forums and organized some well reviewed GDPs by neighborhood. Please understand I have not sessioned with any of these garotas, and I always take reviews with a grain of salt because of sandbaggers. YMMV.[/QUOTE]Many of the 200 r girls with incall place are clinicas or sex motels with a roster of girls. Usually in addition to 200 r you have rent a room fee of 50 to 100 r. They also known bait and switch places. The girl advertised may be real but you get there they will give any free girl if your girl is busy. It's better to just visit them and pick a girl in person. Also the places on fake photo site was really out of way. I think it's better to stick to lower end clinicas in the city center such as Yankin or Tangara where are usually 15-20 girls each for similar price.

[QUOTE=EasyIslandLife;3032178]I don't completely understand the rules of posting links as I don't know what qualifies as a competing forum, but Stella's link is [

YMMV. I did the same thing with Rio providers. Please let me know if anyone thinks this useful. I've also condensed and summarized massage parlors in Moema. I have a serious insomnia problem.[/QUOTE]Wow. Appreciate the effort.

[QUOTE=EasyIslandLife;3032178]I don't completely understand the rules of posting links as I don't know what qualifies as a competing forum, but Stella's link is [URL]https://garotacomlocal.com/acompanhante/stella-queiroz/.[/URL]

Due to really bad insomnia, using a VPN connected to Sao Paulo, I had the chance to translate and read a lot of reviews on the Brazilian forums and organized some well reviewed GDPs by neighborhood. Please understand I have not sessioned with any of these garotas, and I always take reviews with a grain of salt because of sandbaggers.
[/QUOTE]Wow Garota is another site I did not know about. Fatal Model, SP Love, etc etc. Surely Brazil must be the #1 country for the escort industry in the world at this point, right? USA is ok but the #1 site Tryst is completely overridden with online scams. In Europe Germany and Spain have a few agencies, but others like Italy and France have nadda. Honestly the very existence of the spas or a club like Scandallo still amazes me, and I can't help but wonder why these aren't a model everywhere?

For example, how is it that CDMX is similar in size to SP but I don't think either CDMX or Buenos Aires have an escort scene nearly the size of SP and Rio? Brazil isn't even a big tourist country, yet has a billion websites and so many girls happy to fuck for money. I refuse to believe Brazil is just that much worse economically than Mexico, Argentina, or the rest of the world that so many Brazilian girls are ok turning to sex? Is Brazilian culture just really SO much more open than the rest of the world? I didn't find the people there to be so drastically different when I was there last month, so what gives?

I apologize if this discussion is a little bit off-topic but the escort industry in Brazil seems so much more massive than the rest of the world that it's almost unfathomable, and it's something I haven't been able to stop thinking about since my visit last month.

[QUOTE=WarmBlankets;3032767]Wow Garota is another site I did not know about. Fatal Model, SP Love, etc etc. Surely Brazil must be the #1 country for the escort industry in the world at this point, right? USA is ok but the #1 site Tryst is completely overridden with online scams. In Europe Germany and Spain have a few agencies, but others like Italy and France have nadda. Honestly the very existence of the spas or a club like Scandallo still amazes me, and I can't help but wonder why these aren't a model everywhere?

For example, how is it that CDMX is similar in size to SP but I don't think either CDMX or Buenos Aires have an escort scene nearly the size of SP and Rio? Brazil isn't even a big tourist country, yet has a billion websites and so many girls happy to fuck for money. I refuse to believe Brazil is just that much worse economically than Mexico, Argentina, or the rest of the world that so many Brazilian girls are ok turning to sex? Is Brazilian culture just really SO much more open than the rest of the world? I didn't find the people there to be so drastically different when I was there last month, so what gives?

I apologize if this discussion is a little bit off-topic but the escort industry in Brazil seems so much more massive than the rest of the world that it's almost unfathomable, and it's something I haven't been able to stop thinking about since my visit last month.[/QUOTE]Seems Brazil is just better than the rest of the world.

[QUOTE=Agpov;3032768]Seems Brazil is just better than the rest of the world.[/QUOTE]As vagaboundo explained and I agree Brasil number one export worldwide and tourist attraction is it pussy kkk they havd fucking beautiful garotas and variety of new crops produced without fail every year for the past two hundred years.rsrs

[QUOTE=WarmBlankets;3032767]and I can't help but wonder why these aren't a model everywhere?[/QUOTE]There are places like it exist elsewhere. Have you been to Asia? You can stay in the hotel with borthels with hundreds of girls to choose from. Some cost more and some cost as low as 50 USD for 2. I know others know this and just not posting.

[QUOTE=Nounce;3032948]There are places like it exist elsewhere. Have you been to Asia? You can stay in the hotel with borthels with hundreds of girls to choose from. Some cost more and some cost as low as 50 USD for 2. I know others know this and just not posting.[/QUOTE]Where? I been in Asia a few time but I never heard of such place exist. More detail or a link of a board / topic where I can get more info about it please.

[QUOTE=WarmBlankets;3032767]Wow Garota is another site I did not know about. Fatal Model, SP Love, etc etc. Surely Brazil must be the #1 country for the escort industry in the world at this point, right? USA is ok but the #1 site Tryst is completely overridden with online scams. In Europe Germany and Spain have a few agencies, but others like Italy and France have nadda. Honestly the very existence of the spas or a club like Scandallo still amazes me, and I can't help but wonder why these aren't a model everywhere?

For example, how is it that CDMX is similar in size to SP but I don't think either CDMX or Buenos Aires have an escort scene nearly the size of SP and Rio? Brazil isn't even a big tourist country, yet has a billion websites and so many girls happy to fuck for money. I refuse to believe Brazil is just that much worse economically than Mexico, Argentina, or the rest of the world that so many Brazilian girls are ok turning to sex? Is Brazilian culture just really SO much more open than the rest of the world? I didn't find the people there to be so drastically different when I was there last month, so what gives?

I apologize if this discussion is a little bit off-topic but the escort industry in Brazil seems so much more massive than the rest of the world that it's almost unfathomable, and it's something I haven't been able to stop thinking about since my visit last month.[/QUOTE]I don't think it's the biggest but possibly the best IMO.

Germany has lots of clubs like Scandallo and other establishments for sex. UK has lots of WGs but can be a minefield, strangely quite a lot of the Brazilians that operate in uk charge a lot and ask for everything as extra often with a poor attitude.

Don't know who the customer base for girls in Brazil is but my recent trip was amazing, didn't meet a bad provider all had great passion and super friendly. One girl at Casaro was a bit more business like but I get that at that place. Scandallo was off the charts for me but cost soon adds up, I have a charge I am unsure of and they haven't replied to my query yet.

Argentina is ok in BA but a bit pricey, some vfm can be found tho.

[QUOTE=HarryMonk;3032987]Germany has lots of clubs like Scandallo.[/QUOTE]Germany doesn't have a single club as luxe as Scandallo. Not one! Been to FKKLand many times before and here now for a month-long trip. I still have Brazil rated higher than Germany overall. And Scandallo is the biggest and baddest puta palace on the planet! That ought to be their tag line if you ask me. A Cane original LOL! It's even better than Globe in Zurich. Turns out that the best BBBJ / CIM I ever had in my life was at Globe, but from a Brazilian girl LMAO! Even at Globe Brazil ruled! And I sung Scandallo's praises here first. This thread for years and years used to about nothing but the clinicas. Clinicas, clinicas, clinicas! Well, there's nothing wrong with the day league. There's good value for your money to be found there.

But the night league wasn't getting any love. In fact, it used to get trashed by past regular posters in this thread who weren't telling the readership the full story due to their own preferences and biases. Well, I went down there and came back and reported on the night league with my personal pics and some videos found online. The nightclubs! Not just Scandallo but all the rest of them too. Now [B]everybody[/B] knows the real deal. Maybe that's both a good thing and a bad thing, but the main purpose of the site is to share information about P4 P around the world. Just setting the record straight about who made the Sampa boates "a thing" on ISG in this thread. The Cane did it first. And I'm taking my rightful place among the legends.

Need some advice guys. Suppose you are spending 3 nights in Sao Paolo. Arriving on Saturday and flying out Tuesday night. We want to hit Scandallo, Casarao and Bomboa. Which nights would you dedicate to which club? Casarao seems to always be good, even if its a little better on Saturdays. Sundays and monday might be better with less male competition. Are Scandallo and Bomboa decent on Sundays and mondays?

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3033138]Need some advice guys. Suppose you are spending 3 nights in Sao Paolo. Arriving on Saturday and flying out Tuesday night. We want to hit Scandallo, Casarao and Bomboa. Which nights would you dedicate to which club? Casarao seems to always be good, even if its a little better on Saturdays. Sundays and monday might be better with less male competition. Are Scandallo and Bomboa decent on Sundays and mondays?[/QUOTE]First, neither Scandallo or Bomboa is open Sunday. Best bet for a Sunday is get digits from a hottie Sat night and take her to dinner Sunday. That said I was at Casarao at 1:00 Am Sunday night (Monday morning) and it was packed. So that remains an option.

With only three nights, skip Bomboa. It's nice to break up a 5 night Scan streak but def don't forgo Scan for Bom with limited time.

A few other tips:

Don't presume you can only do one club a day. Go to Scan for dinner. Stay thru 11 or 12 and take a girl. Go to Casarao and grab another one at 2 or 3. This is prob my favorite play. Two of my bareback gems are from casarao and very well priced.

Scan is shockingly good during the day and evening. If you have a late flight Tuesday you can consider it another day. Go to Scan for a late lunch and take a girl or two before your flight. Just make sure to leave Scan for GRU 3 hrs before flight. If it rains you could be fucked with any less lead time.

At Scan drink beer. It's a shockingly low $8 (Stella) compared to $25 for a mixed drink. If you do go mixed drinks get a bottle. But beware mixers remain expensive. Esp Red Bull Tropical that the girls (and me!) like. It's like $12/ can. Plus the gin. Soooo it adds up quick.

Have fun!

[QUOTE=HarryMonk;3031001]Great report very useful for my upcoming trip.

Who was the excellent Photoacompanhantes girl? Looking online the site seems hit or miss as to what you might get.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Aline Linz.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/vila-mariana/a-sua-namoradinha-ruiva-branquinha-e-cheirosa-perfeita-id-3r9uw[/URL]

Works out of a shared facility with front desk. Clean comfortable place in decent neighborhood. Slim curvy girl and full GEF. I think it was around BR 300.

She also speaks decent English. Plan on repeating during my next month trip to SPO. If you visit this place, ask the front desk for WhatsApp number and they will send you daily lineup. Worth checking out.

Jackie Staffan.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/santana/morena-cavala-a-mais-quente-venda-de-packs-de-sexo-ou-solo-id-gnhjc[/URL]

If you are into curvy mulata, give it a try. Not as hot as she looks in the pictures but worth trying out for BR 300. She asked additional 50 for uber and came to my hotel.

Solid GEF with out boundaries.

Alana Alvis. Rio.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/rio-de-janeiro/centro/no-meu-atendimento-utilizo-tres-tecnicas-bem-prazerosas-id-9z53k[/URL]

She looks way better than her picture on the photoacompanhantes. She hosts in a commercial building in centro and requires checking in at front desk with ID. I only carry a laminated copy of my passport front page and had no issues checking in. MILF with a great attitude and we went for two rounds in an hour. Does not speak English but we worked out with Google Translate.

Hope this helps. Also gpguia has reviews I am planning on contacting some of them during my next month trip.

[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;3023294]Any of the girls in Scandallo speaks English? I speak Spanish, but 0 porto although they are basically the same. What's the percentage of girls in Scandallo that speaks English? Will I still have good experience from girls with 0 porto and only Google translate?

How long did the girls stay with you with this price? Was it a one pop thing? If you do barfine the girl, will she stay with you all night? I know it varies from girl, but would like to hear your experience.[/QUOTE]It seem to be a tourist trap where the 1 weeks millionnaires are going to get the perfect hit and run without any risk. I want to believe it but 100 $ to go in then 200 $ for the girls. Where the point to go in a 2nd tiers country to fuck when the price are the same then at home + the planes ticket and the hotels?

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3033154]It seem to be a tourist trap where the 1 weeks millionnaires are going to get the perfect hit and run without any risk. I want to believe it but 100 $ to go in then 200 $ for the girls. Where the point to go in a 2nd tiers country to fuck when the price are the same then at home + the planes ticket and the hotels?[/QUOTE]Tell me you have never been to Scandello without telling me you have never been to Scandello.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3033155]Tell me you have never been to Scandello without telling me you have never been to Scandello.[/QUOTE]Haha true that.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3033042]Germany doesn't have a single club as luxe as Scandallo.[/QUOTE]I'm very familiar with Germany and can confirm, Germany's FKK are mostly gross and not classy at all. Like I said, Germany and Spain have a few agencies. As for France and Italy, maybe the men of Western Europe's alleged most romantic countries aren't as sex obsessed as we or their women aren't addicted to thrill and money. Very dry scenes unfortunately. As for Asia, obviously SEA (Philippines, Thailand, etc). Japan can be quite strict on no-foreigners but you can find soaplands or some outcall services if you look hard enough. There is a big forum dedicated specifically to Japan. South Korea seems even more strict on no-foreigners which is a shame because I would love to fuck their failed idols & models. No clue about China / Taiwan / Hong Kong. Anyway, I won't comment on these topics anymore, don't want to offend anyone by hijacking the Sao Paulo thread with non-Brazil matters. Thankfully Brazilian women don't give 2 shits where you come from & are totally fluent in the language of love, although I am still confused WHY Brazil's escort scene is so much more ahead of the rest of the world. I wish every city in the world presented as many options like the spas and nightclubs of Sao Paulo. Thank you The Cane for putting Scandallo on the map and everyone for the contributions!

InDriver works well in Sao Paulo and the prices are sometimes much lower than uber, especially on longer distance trips like out to the airport. You can pay by touchless credit card. Digital wallet (aka apple pay) or physical card, as well as cash.

[QUOTE=EasyIslandLife;3031859]With the understanding that Uber tracks all locations and you can't delete locations on an iPhone, I tried using an alternative rideshare app call 99 S. It's a local Brazilian rideshare app where you can pay with cash (I hoarded small change to do this), maybe a credit card (but I couldn't figure how) or PIX (don't have it). Even if the locations are kept on 99 S, the app only works in Brazil and I won't ever have to use 99 S around my co-workers, so I hope it is the perfect solution to help hide the hobby as I didn't want my Uber app history to be full of boates, massage parlors and love motels. Maybe the exulted senior members that speak Portuguese can provide more in site on whether 99 S was a good idea or if I'm just an idiot making dumb rookie mistakes.

I decided to partake in my first trip to Scandallo after RTFF. I agree, the women are beautiful and there are a lot of them, multiple flavors for everyone as long as you like DDG high end escorts. Scandallo really is a magnet boate for all the hottest garotas in Brazil. I arrived just before 7 PM and got in for the R400 (all going towards consumables). After spending a week with a SB, I was getting use to having a garota sleep over. Unfortunately, due to my lack of flexibility and seeking OVN, I basically struck out at Scandallo. There appears to be a transition around 8 PM where the day garotas that started at 12 PM are leaving and the evening garotas start arriving (slowly working their way onto the floor as they get ready)..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3032956] where I can get more info about it please.[/QUOTE]You can read about them in Jakarta thread. The popular ones are basically club setup with bar, tables, couches, pool table. The main difference is you can get a lineup. If you look at the high end ones with swimming pool, they also are popular in Brazil. The setups basically are the same. I think it is better because you can see all the girls in the fishbowl or lineup and it saves time. There are plenty of freelancer places in Thailand too. Hey, you don't even need club for that. You can stay at Hyatt on Sukhumvit and pick up working girl right at the front door.

Scandallo does what it does best in the world. I am not going to debate that. There are other types of places, like soapy, or sauna. Brazil is pretty limited in that regard. Thailand now allows weed inside. You can't beat that. LOL.

Well glad I didn't show up to Scandallo on Sunday! It had never even occurred to me to go to Scandallo during the day. Thanks for the advice!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3033140]First, neither Scandallo or Bomboa is open Sunday. Best bet for a Sunday is get digits from a hottie Sat night and take her to dinner Sunday. That said I was at Casarao at 1:00 Am Sunday night (Monday morning) and it was packed. So that remains an option.

With only three nights, skip Bomboa. It's nice to break up a 5 night Scan streak but def don't forgo Scan for Bom with limited time.

A few other tips:

Don't presume you can only do one club a day. Go to Scan for dinner. Stay thru 11 or 12 and take a girl. Go to Casarao and grab another one at 2 or 3. This is prob my favorite play. Two of my bareback gems are from casarao and very well priced.

Scan is shockingly good during the day and evening. If you have a late flight Tuesday you can consider it another day. Go to Scan for a late lunch and take a girl or two before your flight. Just make sure to leave Scan for GRU 3 hrs before flight. If it rains you could be fucked with any less lead time.

At Scan drink beer. It's a shockingly low $8 (Stella) compared to $25 for a mixed drink. If you do go mixed drinks get a bottle. But beware mixers remain expensive. Esp Red Bull Tropical that the girls (and me!) like. It's like $12/ can. Plus the gin. Soooo it adds up quick.

Have fun![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3033236]Well glad I didn't show up to Scandallo on Sunday! It had never even occurred to me to go to Scandallo during the day. Thanks for the advice![/QUOTE]A number of bros travelling to scandallo and brasil for the first time ask me to send links or whatever to see the types of scandallo garotas.

Pro tip. Many of the garotas follow scandallolounge on instagram. You will see many sexy instagram models, fitness garotas, hotties there. Follow them, connect, send messsge or whatever floats your boat. It doesn't mean they all go there but its enough to get an idea. Best part is when you have 30 existing mutual garota connections easier to arrange multiplayer hook ups. Kkk and they love posting sexy photos nearly every fucking day. Simple message. " I am coming tonight" works wonders for a good time.

Anyone has doctor / hospital recommendations in SP to get prescription for PREP and other sexual health meds?

[QUOTE=Tochka;3033459]A number of bros travelling to scandallo and brasil for the first time ask me to send links or whatever to see the types of scandallo garotas.

Pro tip. Many of the garotas follow scandallolounge on instagram. You will see many sexy instagram models, fitness garotas, hotties there. Follow them, connect, send messsge or whatever floats your boat. It doesn't mean they all go there but its enough to get an idea. Best part is when you have 30 existing mutual garota connections easier to arrange multiplayer hook ups. Kkk and they love posting sexy photos nearly every fucking day. Simple message. " I am coming tonight" works wonders for a good time.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice, it help a lot to have an idea if its a place I would like or not. I was looking at reddit post about FKK in Germany today and some dude was sharing photos of the gilrs they pick there. It made me totally reconsider my trip planning in Germany. All the girls was top model, but tall skinny with small boobs. They was all beautiful, but definitely not the type of girls for who I would spends all the cash to go there.

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3033565]Thanks for the advice, it help a lot to have an idea if its a place I would like or not. I was looking at reddit post about FKK in Germany today and some dude was sharing photos of the gilrs they pick there. It made me totally reconsider my trip planning in Germany. All the girls was top model, but tall skinny with small boobs. They was all beautifull, but definetly not the type of girls for who I would spends all the cash to go there.[/QUOTE]I'm in Germany now. Been here nearing a month already and been to clubs all over the country. Can tell you now all the clubs [B]are not[/B] full of models, and they never were. Not even before COVID when the FKKs were still good and worth going to. In fact, I went to a club last night called Acapulco Prime that was so full of fatties, I renamed it "Acafatso Prime". The FKK club landscape in Germany has taken a shocking turn for the worse post COVID! I found a handful of clubs still worth it to check out (Sharks, Mainhattan, Harmony, Artemis, Sunshine), but there's nothing here that can shake a stick at Scandallo. And there is no strong concentration of quality in any one place anymore (used to be Frankfurt), which means you would have to travel all over the country to get to those 5 I named. I won't be coming back to Germany anytime soon. It's sad because it [B]used[/B] to be one of my absolute favorite places in the entire world to monger due to the FKK scene. Ran a close second behind Brazil. Well, it is no more. The pandemic decimated the quality of the FKK scene, and it has not returned. And I fear it won't ever. Very, very sad.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3033589]I'm in Germany now. Been here nearing a month already and been to clubs all over the country. Can tell you now all the clubs [B]are not[/B] full of models, and they never were. Not even before COVID when the FKKs were still good and worth going to. In fact, I went to a club last night called Acapulco Prime that was so full of fatties, I renamed it "Acafatso Prime". The FKK club landscape in Germany has taken a shocking turn for the worse post COVID! I found a handful of clubs still worth it to check out (Sharks, Mainhattan, Harmony, Artemis, Sunshine), but there's nothing here that can shake a stick at Scandallo. And there is no strong concentration of quality in any one place anymore (used to be Frankfurt), which means you would have to travel all over the country to get to those 5 I named. I won't be coming back to Germany anytime soon. It's sad because it [B]used[/B] to be one of my absolute favorite places in the entire world to monger due to the FKK scene. Ran a close second behind Brazil. Well, it is no more. The pandemic decimated the quality of the FKK scene, and it has not returned. And I fear it won't ever. Very, very sad.[/QUOTE]O think the end of flat rate by merkel and the covid was the 2 main reason. Covid was probably drop who ruined it because of the transition from physical place to virtual and online meeting apps. 250 EU /30 min is also insane, it's probably very high even for people who are working in rich country of Euro zone.

Scandalo look great, but 1 k br. That's probably why they named it scandalo. Its the first thing a client say after asking how much a girls want for 30 minutes.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3033589]I'm in Germany now. Been here nearing a month already and been to clubs all over the country. Can tell you now all the clubs [B]are not[/B] full of models, and they never were. Not even before COVID when the FKKs were still good and worth going to. In fact, I went to a club last night called Acapulco Prime that was so full of fatties, I renamed it "Acafatso Prime". The FKK club landscape in Germany has taken a shocking turn for the worse post COVID! I found a handful of clubs still worth it to check out (Sharks, Mainhattan, Harmony, Artemis, Sunshine), but there's nothing here that can shake a stick at Scandallo. And there is no strong concentration of quality in any one place anymore (used to be Frankfurt), which means you would have to travel all over the country to get to those 5 I named. I won't be coming back to Germany anytime soon. It's sad because it [B]used[/B] to be one of my absolute favorite places in the entire world to monger due to the FKK scene. Ran a close second behind Brazil. Well, it is no more. The pandemic decimated the quality of the FKK scene, and it has not returned. And I fear it won't ever. Very, very sad.[/QUOTE]Unbeknownst to you The Cane I had planned to use your overall grade of FKKland to help decide on whether I should revisit that great mongers' Disneyland, because of your usual insightful descriptions of your visits in your posts. Like you my previous visit was pre-covid or to be more accurate at the time covid struck. There is now a lesser chance of my returning and a greater likelihood of a second post covid visit to Brazil (possibbly SP this time).

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3033669]Scandalo look great, but 1 k br. Thats probvably why they named it scandalo. Its the first thing a client say after asking how much a girls want for 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]Now this made me literally laugh out loud LOL!

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3033533]Anyone has doctor / hospital recommendations in SP to get prescription for PREP and other sexual health meds?[/QUOTE]You don't need prescription for Prep in Brazil. Having a cpf helps even if it isn't yours. Brought price down to 98 R for 30 day supply. You might have to check a few pharmacies to see if they stock it. I went to one near the hotel and they didn't have any but said the one branch across paulista had one bottle left so I went there and picked it up.

Other antibiotics will need a prescription.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3022584]My experience is that prices are about the same in USD. Maybe up 10-20% which is low compared to rest of world girl inflation.

Note that I am not the master negotiator or try to push the girls down alot, so no point in a bunch of guys giving me shit about how I overpaid. Here are some actual prices I paid in Reals. These were top shelf girls.

2018 - Scandallo 600-800. Casarao 400.

2025 - Scandallo 1000-1200. Casarao 600.

As you can see, in reals it's 50% higher. But in 2018 the Real was 4.0 to 1. Now it's 5.65 to 1. So it's almost a wash in USD. And thats 7 years later! Brazil prices remain very good.[/QUOTE]I searched on the board and its tough to find a clear listing price of the different place, do you have price from other place like this in sao Paulo? How many of them in town?

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3017845]Thanks for reading. I want to try Medellin but I don't know how to get started. Can you provide a mini-guide for beginner friendly places in Medellin? Since it's my first time I want to go to straight forward places (e. G. Scandallo in Brazil very straight forward or FKK Sharks in Germany) which are good, clean, pretty girls, good service, less scams, danger etc. Money is not an issue.

I don't know if they have clubs like that in Colombia. And whatever research I did on ISG Colombia forum pointed to searching for girls on FB and then building a network. It's not straight forward because it seems sketchy and scammy. I don't know who's going to show up, if the girl is like her pics or not? Will she scopolamine me and steal everything? I'm a newbie but how do advanced mongers do their due diligence?

If you can give small concise write-up with logistics tips similar to what I did for Brazil it'll save sometime for research or link me to a guide if it exists.[/QUOTE]Its not a a board about Colombia but here so basic info:

Best strip club (you can rent a room and fuck on place like in a terma).

La Isla Club- high end. Girls ask more, probably the best place for a foreigner who travel with friends. Girls ask more, one asked me a million COP once. It was ridiculously high and I refused.

Fase 2- the best in mi opinion. Girls are asking less but the place still big with a lots of dance an the girls are good looking, less then la isla but it worst to try it.

Luna Lunera Night Club- aslo a casa on day time. One of my favorite. You are probably not find 8-9 and 10 there but the place worth a visit. Its a lot smaller and there is not so much girls so be aware, you might have to move if you don't like the girls.

Best casa:

Loutron, it doesn't really worth going elsewhere.

Use a taxi in Colombia, the official one so you avoid trouble.

Daily budget: 1 millions copa by day and you should have a lot of fun.

Where to live: parque llera. Its the best area to stay for a first timer.

Wow. First trashing Scandallo with no first hand knowledge and now a double necro bump. What's next? 😜.

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3033708]I searched on the board and its tough to find a clear listing price of the different place, do you have price from other place like this in sao paulo? How many of them in town?[/QUOTE]Search for "Isabelle" on this thread. She is the pioneer of high price. You will see a lot of discussion about her and price, and when the price started to go up significantly.

Casarao was about 250 - 500 around 2021/2022. You can get a decent looking but not the prettiest at Scandallo for 500 or 400 around the same time.

The price started to go crazy from the second half of 2022. It becomes common to see quotes in the thousands.

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3033708]I searched on the board and its tough to find a clear listing price of the different place, do you have price from other place like this in sao paulo? How many of them in town?[/QUOTE]These are the typical prices you will see in different ranges. Lower price ones have 30 minutes options that will be 30 to 50 cheaper. All prices are in BRL.

Palms around 800/ h.

Abbbora around 350/ h.

Prime around 250/ h with discount.

Tangara around 220/ h.

The price difference reflects the quality of the facility. The girls from the higher price ones are much more fit and better shape body wise on average, including Scandallo.

You read a lot of stuff. You need to learn to read what you have posted. The information is all there.

Tangara level places (E. G. Chanel, Yankin, clinica Zeus) also have 1/2 hour rates of 140 to 160. I got turned off once in Abbobora when a girl tried to upcharge me for a second pop. I let it go and went to Anavrin. It costs about the same as Abbobora but I think it's a little bit about its location and since they don't have as many girls that are quite as good looking but those girls deliver.

[QUOTE=Nounce;3033857]These are the typical prices you will see in different ranges. Lower price ones have 30 minutes options that will be 30 to 50 cheaper. All prices are in BRL.

Palms around 800/ h.

Abbbora around 350/ h.

Prime around 250/ h with discount.

Tangara around 220/ h.

The price difference reflects the quality of the facility. The girls from the higher price ones are much more fit and better shape body wise on average, including Scandallo..[/QUOTE]

Gents, I will be back in SP for a few days this week. Is there a black provider you can rec right now? I was friendly with Moema's Valentina (braces) last year, but can't find her now. Thanks.

Scandallo doesn't deserve to be trashed. It is what it is. It's special because it offers a rare mix of quality and quantity. Fantasy is a big part of the game. The reality is of course you can only fuck one girl at a time. Yes, you can pay two or more to be in the same session with you but you can only fuck one of them at a time. A nicely appointed room and a fancy nightclub setting adds to the experience for many. It's all good, I don't remember ever having a bad time at Scandallo. What has caught my eye from time to time is the over the top reactions of my co-workers (I've never gone alone or as a civilian so to speak), and the almost religious fervor of some of us on this website. If you search Scandallo here you will see evangelical declarations and proselytizing. I don't get why we can't enjoy the place (or not) without getting offended if someone decides to go another way. I'm a free market adherent so I think Scandallo should charge whatever we are willing to pay. I'm also fickle and curious. I'm easily bored unless I mix it up regularly. I probably average one or two visits to Scandallo per year at most. I'm experienced enough to know one of the big reasons they maintain the quantity is to give us a reason to go more often. They play the FOMO card well. The idea of focusing all or even most of my attention on one place in a city the size of Sao Paulo with all it has to offer doesn't add up for me, but that's just me.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3033155]Tell me you have never been to Scandello without telling me you have never been to Scandello.[/QUOTE]

I have to admit, it is pretty funny.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3033677]Now this made me literally laugh out loud LOL![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;3033857]..... The girls from the higher price ones are much more fit and better shape body wise on average.....[/QUOTE]Does Palms really have that higher quality girls?

[QUOTE=Nounce;3033857]These are the typical prices you will see in different ranges. Lower price ones have 30 minutes options that will be 30 to 50 cheaper. All prices are in BRL.

Palms around 800/ h.

Abbbora around 350/ h.

Prime around 250/ h with discount.

Tangara around 220/ h.

The price difference reflects the quality of the facility. The girls from the higher price ones are much more fit and better shape body wise on average, including Scandallo.

You read a lot of stuff. You need to learn to read what you have posted. The information is all there.[/QUOTE]How much is the 30 minute price in scandalo?

I don't think there is such a thing.

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3034516]How much is the 30 minute price in scandalo?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3034516]How much is the 30 minute price in scandalo?[/QUOTE]Same as the 60-minute price. The girls are FL's. I have had recent quotes of anywhere from 800 to 2000 and I have never paid more than 1200. And of course this does not include incidentals, entry charge, and room fees.

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3033713]Its not a a board about Colombia but here so basic info:

Best strip club (you can rent a room and fuck on place like in a terma).

La Isla Club- high end. Girls ask more, probably the best place for a foreigner who travel with friends. Girls ask more, one asked me a million COP once. It was ridiculously high and I refused.

Fase 2- the best in mi opinion. Girls are asking less but the place still big with a lots of dance an the girls are good looking, less then la isla but it worst to try it.

Luna Lunera Night Club- aslo a casa on day time. One of my favorite. You are probably not find 8-9 and 10 there but the place worth a visit. Its a lot smaller and there is not so much girls so be aware, you might have to move if you don't like the girls.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this. I kinda figured out the big 3 - La Isla, Fase dos and Lunera. Plus streets of Parque Lleras and Provenza.

LOL I'm getting too many recommendations reels of naughty Medellin, with hot chicas and Pocahontas saying papasito come to Medellin. I just might book it. LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3034503]Does Palms really have that higher quality girls?[/QUOTE]I think so. I remember going to one that one makes selection from girls wearing lingirie behind one way window. They were not trashy at all. The girl showed up in the room in business suit. But these are gamble as one can't really talk to the girls.

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3034663]Thanks for this. [/QUOTE]That list is very YMMV and can be a real tourist trap compared to Scandallo. More attractive girls can make money by offering limited service, like CBJ so you are "priced out" if you want BBBJ. This is just an example, and basically bad influence.

There is a learning curve for an average person who wants better sex. There two are over 18 but still in high school. These is no restriction to what I want. Whoever they bring is the same. 2 hours or more for about 50-70 each. I have no problem whenever they want to bring friend. The new girl always ask for 50 and I don't have to negotiate. Once they are influenced by money, things will be different.

To provide some context, I am looking for better sex, not number so I become very familiar with the girls that I see because I see them so often

[QUOTE=Turgid;3034503]Does Palms really have that higher quality girls?[/QUOTE]It depends on the type of girls you like. Brazilian locals like the curves, T and As. I'm more into the waif model and young thin spinner type. The average girl at the high end clinica are better looking than the lower end clinicas but they may not be your preference. I include the girl gallery site for baronesa spa. None of these girls are my type. Also these photos are fairly edited which is annoying since you can't see them in person usually.

[URL]https://galeria.baronesasclub.net.br/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Nounce;3034727]There is a learning curve for an average person who wants better sex. There two are over 18 but still in high school. These is no restriction to what I want.

To provide some context, I am looking for better sex, not number so I become very familiar with the girls that I see because I see them so often[/QUOTE]"A learning curve", man my school days are far behind me and nor was I ever a good learner LOL. I also read somewhere that I needed to "build my Facebook" by adding 5 girls everyday to reach "critical mass" of 600 girls in Medellin. Then things will happen smoothly. Too much work and time and energy. Plus need to learn Spanish to get by. Also Medellin girls are never on time they arrive hours later than appointment. I think the only thing is you're saving money because Colombia is cheaper and you get stuff for 50-70 as compared to 200 in scandallo. But Brazil has those clinicas where you can find a diamond in the rough for that budget.

I'the much rather just go to scandallo and pick a girl out of the hundreds available. Do the deed and move on with my life. No learning curve, no Portuguese just beautiful girls with great service. I know you say Medellin girls provide great service but scandallo service is not bad either, I think over analyzing these minuscule improvements in service quality has diminishing returns.

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3034828]"A learning curve", man my school days are far behind me and nor was I ever a good learner LOL. I also read somewhere that I needed to "build my Facebook" by adding 5 girls everyday to reach "critical mass" of 600 girls in Medellin. Then things will happen smoothly. Too much work and time and energy. Plus need to learn Spanish to get by. Also Medellin girls are never on time they arrive hours later than appointment. I think the only thing is you're saving money because Colombia is cheaper and you get stuff for 50-70 as compared to 200 in scandallo. But Brazil has those clinicas where you can find a diamond in the rough for that budget.

I'the much rather just go to scandallo and pick a girl out of the hundreds available. Do the deed and move on with my life. No learning curve, no Portuguese just beautiful girls with great service. I know you say Medellin girls provide great service but scandallo service is not bad either, I think over analyzing these minuscule improvements in service quality has diminishing returns.[/QUOTE]Just say it out loud. Anyone who's been both places know Medellin sucks compared to SP. La Isla? Not even in same universe. Don't get me wrong, I had a good time with Facebook girls — much easier than you make it sound. But it's still no contest. Again the only people who say it is haven't been to both places. (Or don't like the nightclub scene).

[QUOTE=Nounce;3034727]That list is very YMMV and can be a real tourist trap compared to Scandallo. More attractive girls can make money by offering limited service, like CBJ so you are "priced out" if you want BBBJ. This is just an example, and basically bad influence.

There is a learning curve for an average person who wants better sex. There two are over 18 but still in high school. These is no restriction to what I want. Whoever they bring is the same. 2 hours or more for about 50-70 each. I have no problem whenever they want to bring friend. The new girl always ask for 50 and I don't have to negotiate. Once they are influenced by money, things will be different.

To provide some context, I am looking for better sex, not number so I become very familiar with the girls that I see because I see them so often[/QUOTE]So these girls are in fact semi pros? How you managed to get in contact with them.

Visited this week in SP, whoa what a great time.

I visited the palms for the first time, was shown the iPad 8 girls available, I chose Lola. They made me wait in the room for a while like 30 mins, then she comes in much older than iPad pics. Her service was bad. Preventing penetration and rushed. I paid her 800 and she cheated saying I had to pay outside. I complained they returned money from her. Complete disaster.

Next scandallo, first girl slim petite white silicon tits beautiful face great service 1200.

Second girl, Fernanda fantastic service 1000. Really awesome.

Third girl, white skin pretty face but had a botched boob job with ugly scars 1200. BBBJ was sloppy and great on the positive.

Fourth one, Ana she was my regular, great service 1300.

Fifth, I talked to her at the bar, white skin, single tattoo on her shoulder brunette. 1200.

Sixth, blonde hair German look a bit older she lied about her age LOL I felt used. Much curvy and thicker once the clothes were off 1100.

The service is good in scandallo, but I miss the FKKs where these shenanigans of boob scars and fatties popping their tits using push up bra can be avoided. On the flip side, in FKKs, even though girl looks flawless naked, I'm always scared service will be a disaster.

Couple of mishaps in scandallo, I went to room with a girl after negotiating she blurted to her friend in Portuguese that she won't provide kissing for the price to me behind my back, in the room she demanded money up front and I said no and walked out. She was pretty mad.

A girl looked beautiful but her voice was so deep, I fled, bet she has a dick down there.

The girls are a bit pushy sometimes almost begging for money, I expect more from a classy place like scandallo.

My god the way some girls dress holy shii. She was wearing a yellow dress backless and so down cut hugging her silicon tits. Amazing.

Portuguese language barrier killed the mood. I feel like I can't connect to the girl and sex feels mechanical and transactional.

Now with that out of the way let's talk about the best parts of the trip -.

I went to DOM - 2 star Michelin native Brazilian ingredients. The 12 course tasting menu was worth $200 USD.

I strolled around Japanese neighborhood of Liberdade, man it was great, they brought Japan to SP with Anime collectibles, Japanese immigration museum was pretty neat, the best one I guess for this trip. Japanese garden with coy fish and amazing Ramen with tempura ice cream. I had a great time.

Strolled around Oscar Freire. Pretty good restaurants, tried Thaitea from recs here it was ok but Tartufaria Italian was pretty nice.

Also ate at Sushimar decent meal.

Also went to futbol museum bunch of school kids on a trip, pretty boring.

Also went to ibirapuera park and free museum there, was not bad schools kids here too.

Verdict. I had more fun outside scandallo then inside. I guess just being hunted like a prey in a totally foreign country with people talking behind your back in a foreign language isn't that much fun.

I did 3 trips back to back in the past 4 months to scandallo and I probably need to stop mongering LOL, it's mentally starting to get to me. Lately feeling I'm paying money but it's not making my life better. Just making me more anxious. It started out as hey this is an amazing way a man can treat himself be it FKK or scandallo or something else. But these fatties, oldies and uggos are annoying with their scams and photo shops and price haggling and poor service quality. Anyone else feel me on this? Spending a lot of money and flying back breaking 15 HR red eye flights on a completely unnecessary not required activity, you won't die if you don't fuck. This time I did actually have business in SP but previous 2 trips were solely mongering, full disclosure.

Traveling was my original hobby and after visiting 30 countries, I'm done with that. Then it became mongering, now I'm done with that too. What's next? I think I'm going to pick up fine dining as my new hobby, sampling Michelin stars around the world as a way to treat to myself.

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3035241]Traveling was my original hobby and after visiting 30 countries, I'm done with that. Then it became mongering, now I'm done with that too. What's next? I think I'm going to pick up fine dining as my new hobby, sampling Michelin stars around the world as a way to treat to myself.[/QUOTE]I'm a lot like you, only I'm up to 50+ countries and have a few more I want to visit. I have traveled all my life, and was thrilled to bring mongering into the mix at a time when I had the opportunity and could afford it. But now, seeing how much that the hobby has declined around the world, I'm about as happy to eat out at a good restaurant as I am to eat out a good tute, provided I can still find one with relative ease! LOLOLOL! You know what they say. The older you get, the more you enjoy a good meal over a good fuck! I feel like I might be moving in the same direction as you. Things. People. They change.

When I started mongering, it was just about the point and shoot but over the years, service and chemistry become much more important. I now understand why guys like to have a girl overnight or go on long dates. I agree its an absolute must to learn the language to fully enjoy Brazil. Without it, you might have good sex but can't fully pre / post sex dopamine connect. Though ultimately, I believe like with all things in life, the hedonistic treadmill happens and we always go back to baseline. Best thing to do is to take breaks to reset baseline. 3 times in 4 months is quite a lot.

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3035241]Visited this week in SP, whoa what a great time.

Portuguese language barrier killed the mood. I feel like I can't connect to the girl and sex feels mechanical and transactional.

Verdict. I had more fun outside scandallo then inside. I guess just being hunted like a prey in a totally foreign country with people talking behind your back in a foreign language isn't that much fun.
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[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3035241]VThey made me wait in the room for a while like 30 mins, then she comes in much older than iPad pics. Her service was bad. [/QUOTE]Many if not most high-end clinicas expect you to shower before the girl comes. At Palms, you can interview and reject her in the room and make another choice. I mentioned it in my post. If helps here if you can speak to the owner. HIgh-end clinicas can be a gamble. Brazil is great but it is still number representing better ratio than most.

I also mentioned one good name, so one can fall back to her if one does not like the rejection. I encourage we all do that. LOL.

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3035241] sampling Michelin stars around the world as a way to treat to myself.[/QUOTE]

Done that. Nowadays I am seeking out up niche restaurants run by mostly younger people that are more well-known in the neighborhood and not from the magazines or ranking. There are many in Sao Paulo.

Gents, I'll be in SP next week (Grand Prix week) thanks to all the awesome reports on this board. I plan to hit up the Scan and Casarao.

Hit me up on a private if you wish to hang.

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3034828]"A learning curve", man my school days are far behind me and nor was I ever a good learner .[/QUOTE]The reason I mentioned price is to provide another data point for you because the OP mentioned price. The list is only good for someone who is not demanding if I am direct about it. Loutron is the most expensive with limited service if that is what the "best" represents. La Isla used to be much better and the service from staff is on par with Scandallo to a single guest. It's not as luxurious with not as many girls. But all you need is one girl, not 200, La Isla is more than appropriate to find quality on par based on my own experience. After COVID, it went thru a remodel like Scandallo, the clientele changed, everything went down hill with the change.

You are where I was many years ago. It's about in control of your money to get the value you want. I am no longer interested in point and click, 30 minutes or 1 hour limit. I enjoy long sex that sometimes can last until the girl is tired. I don't have a finish line. I count time (hours) and I don't want girls that count times (finishes). I like long blow jobs. The smaller or lighter girls have better stamina to do cow girls, and it is easier to find them in Colombia. My approach is similar to Tochka. He has the party in a love motel. I have it in my apartment. I have an adjustable sex chair and similar stuff he mentioned with a typical great view of the city. The sex chair is great for taking video when you fck them. I got messages from girls every day, I pick who I want to see. I choose who wants me (my money), not the other way around. I am in control of what I get and what I spent.

The sexuality oozes out of this girl. I talked to her the day before around 10:30 PM. She told me she was going to sleep. She said she was living a healthy life. She quitted drug and stuff. We will need to use condom when having sex again. Haha. This is what she sent me the next day. She told me she would do everything I want. She came, jump on top of me and almost ate me alive. Next thing she told me was she would stay until next morning, let's go get some party flavors. LOL. I set my Uber to the pharmacy in the Barrio. She was all over me in the Uber. After she got what she wanted, I asked the dealer what better weed he got because the girls always buy the cheap stuff. I understood what the dealer told me. It was expensive relative to the cheap one and the girl thought I did not understand. She pulled out her phone to translate for me. But phone is a no no in this environment with many dealers and she knew it. I made her put her phone away. Again she was all over me on our way back. We could do drive thru, but the driver may extort me for doing what we were doing being a gringo. Before I came, I asked her can I finish inside, she gave me a resounding yes and pulled me toward her.

The generalization about lateness is not correct. I do understand why people say that. It helps if you know how to talk to them if you want to reduce lateness. It does not bother me if the girl is late or does not show up. It becomes my advantage if the girl made mistake. I have plenty of things to do other than sex or waiting. For me forgiving also has it's reward, the sex can be better too. I think it is because that is not how most men react to them when they are late.

The second chat is with a new girl, 18 yr old. She overslept and did not show up. I told her I would not tip (66%) the next time. She agreed. I always pay in full as long as they show up, occasionally paid without sex. I will resolve the problem the next time they want to see me. Her performance was good from the get go She was dancing naked enjoying herself in front of the mirror, I was standing behind. She pulled me into her from behind to fuck her standing up. Her size is the right size so it was an easy natural fit. That instantly turned me on. She is quite easy to reach orgasm. We moved on to the couch, changed positions a few times, before moving to the sex chair. I went on top, changed position to get some rest and she started to give me a long BBBJ before hoping on top me.

The reason I tipped her besides performance is because she is very stylish and I know she gets much more and getting tips regularly from tourists. A bonus is she has a partner who will turn 18 in 3 weeks. LOL. I "invest" enough to keep her around. The other chat she offered to stay until 10 when she could be in my apartment around 7 so she could go off to make more money from tourists. I did not demand it. I just told her I prefer another night when she has more time because I think she was busy on Friday night / Halloween. I am willing to pay for nothing for something in the future at this price range. I wouldn't do it when it is 200 USD.

[QUOTE=KCK12;3035209]So these girls are in fact semi pros? How you managed to get in contact with them.[/QUOTE]

One common method is Facebook or IG. But I have not sourced from Facebook for a long time now.

Hello gents, I am excited to visit Sao Paulo in a few weeks, thank you all for the reports here. I have been active in other places in Europe (DE FKKs, Globe, Diva girls in London), and this will be my first time exploring Sao Paulo. From reading the forum, I think I will probably only go to Scandallo, maybe Casarao on a Sunday, and possibly Palms during the day. A few questions for those in the know, as I get ready for my first trip:

Keeping things: I usually have a few things with me when I go to a club, and I use the lockers at FKK clubs, or take a bag with me when I see a Diva girl in London. Some of the things I might have include lots of cash, toothbrush (this is important if I'm eating at Scandallo and expect DFK), condoms, vapes, items to enhance the experience with a girl (oils, toys), sometimes a gopro if I want to record some memories. I can't imagine carrying all this in my pockets but it sounds like there are no lockers at Scandallo, is that true? If so, how do you guys manage, do you just carry a bag, or is there some place to store your things safely when you're not in a room? Even cash can take a lot of space, where do you keep it?

Taboo subjects: I like to be clear on what the girls will do and I sometimes ask them what they do and like / dislike. I have experienced that at some clubs you can ask anything and the girls are unfazed (Globe, some Diva girls) - but at other places like FKK clubs in DE the girls act offended, they tell their friends, and then all the girls are standoffish. Some of my favorite services are DFK, BBBJ, balls-licking, rimming, filming. Are these services that the girls do in Scandallo and other Sao Paulo clubs, and is it ok to ask about them (or do I even need to ask)? Or will asking just get me rejected by these girls?

I plan to stay at the Renaissance. Any issue bring girls there? I would also like to try the Love Motels, and it sounds like the girls can can guide me through that experience. But I can imagine that after a few days, I may just want to brig a girl back to my hotel and relax in the room. If there's anything I should know about managing the situation at the Renaissance, I would appreciate that information.

I plan to spend a bit of money, and I am ok with buying bottles and talking to girls at my table. But I don't like the feeling of being targeted or taken advantage of as a tourist. So, if there's any advice to help me avoid rookie mistakes I would be thankful.

If there are other guys interested in trying Scandallo or other spots with me, let me know in DM. I am an American, happy to hang with other guys that are interested in going in with some company. I will be in SP during the last weekend of November, starting November 22.

[QUOTE=NF4591;3035413]Hello gents, I am excited to visit Sao Paulo in a few weeks, thank you all for the reports here. I have been active in other places in Europe (DE FKKs, Globe, Diva girls in London), and this will be my first time exploring Sao Paulo. From reading the forum, I think I will probably only go to Scandallo, maybe Casarao on a Sunday, and possibly Palms during the day. A few questions for those in the know, as I get ready for my first trip:

Keeping things: I usually have a few things with me when I go to a club, and I use the lockers at FKK clubs, or take a bag with me when I see a Diva girl in London. Some of the things I might have include lots of cash, toothbrush (this is important if I'm eating at Scandallo and expect DFK), condoms, vapes, items to enhance the experience with a girl (oils, toys), sometimes a gopro if I want to record some memories. I can't imagine carrying all this in my pockets but it sounds like there are no lockers at Scandallo, is that true? If so, how do you guys manage, do you just carry a bag, or is there some place to store your things safely when you're not in a room? Even cash can take a lot of space, where do you keep it?

Taboo subjects: I like to be clear on what the girls will do and I sometimes ask them what they do and like / dislike. I have experienced that at some clubs you can ask anything and the girls are unfazed (Globe, some Diva girls) - but at other places like FKK clubs in DE the girls act offended, they tell their friends, and then all the girls are standoffish. Some of my favorite services are DFK, BBBJ, balls-licking, rimming, filming. Are these services that the girls do in Scandallo and other Sao Paulo clubs, and is it ok to ask about them (or do I even need to ask)? Or will asking just get me rejected by these girls?

I plan to stay at the Renaissance. Any issue bring girls there? I would also like to try the Love Motels, and it sounds like the girls can can guide me through that experience. But I can imagine that after a few days, I may just want to brig a girl back to my hotel and relax in the room. If there's anything I should know about managing the situation at the Renaissance, I would appreciate that information.

I plan to spend a bit of money, and I am ok with buying bottles and talking to girls at my table. But I don't like the feeling of being targeted or taken advantage of as a tourist. So, if there's any advice to help me avoid rookie mistakes I would be thankful.

If there are other guys interested in trying Scandallo or other spots with me, let me know in DM. I am an American, happy to hang with other guys that are interested in going in with some company. I will be in SP during the last weekend of November, starting November 22.[/QUOTE]Sounds like we roll to similar clubs so I hope my perspective helps. First. Def don't skip Casarao. Yes it's def down market from Scandallo but has a great crowded club bar vibe that is super in it's own way. And I hve pulled some stone cold hotties from there, including one of two 10's I've ever had in my life. As I've said in prior posts a great MO is enjoy the luxe vibe at Scan from 7 to midnight or 1 and take a girl. Then bounce to Casarao for a few hours and take another.

As far as all your stuff, you just need to make it work in your pockets. Ditch the go pro most girls at Scan are semi pro and not down with filming. Make due with your camera if they are. Condoms and money and vape fits in your pockets (been there done that). Yes it's tight but it works. I've never worried about a toothbrush and all brasileiras kiss like demons regardless. Never been an issue.

DFK, BBBJ, ball licking. All standard brasileira services at least at Scan. Filming and rimming less so. Nonetheless these girls have seen it all. If in doubt put it in Google translate. Just doing it that way is more comfortable than chat anyhow.

Rennaisance is 💯 girl friendly but make sure the room is reserved for TWO. And if they make her register it's no big deal. But make sure to UNregister her in the morning if you plan to bring a different girl back. Trying to unregister and reregister at same time might cause extra charges.

You have done things in the right order working ur way up to scandallo. Cuz once u been there the rest dont quite compare. U are ruined for life! 😝

[QUOTE=NF4591;3035413]Hello gents, I am excited to visit Sao Paulo in a few weeks, thank you all for the reports here. I have been active in other places in Europe (DE FKKs, Globe, Diva girls in London), and this will be my first time exploring Sao Paulo. From reading the forum, I think I will probably only go to Scandallo, maybe Casarao on a Sunday, and possibly Palms during the day. A few questions for those in the know, as I get ready for my first trip:

Keeping things: I usually have a few things with me when I go to a club, and I use the lockers at FKK clubs, or take a bag with me when I see a Diva girl in London. Some of the things I might have include lots of cash, toothbrush (this is important if I'm eating at Scandallo and expect DFK), condoms, vapes, items to enhance the experience with a girl (oils, toys), sometimes a gopro if I want to record some memories. I can't imagine carrying all this in my pockets but it sounds like there are no lockers at Scandallo, is that true? If so, how do you guys manage, do you just carry a bag, or is there some place to store your things safely when you're not in a room? Even cash can take a lot of space, where do you keep it?

Taboo subjects: I like to be clear on what the girls will do and I sometimes ask them what they do and like / dislike. I have experienced that at some clubs you can ask anything and the girls are unfazed (Globe, some Diva girls) - but at other places like FKK clubs in DE the girls act offended, they tell their friends, and then all the girls are standoffish. Some of my favorite services are DFK, BBBJ, balls-licking, rimming, filming. Are these services that the girls do in Scandallo and other Sao Paulo clubs, and is it ok to ask about them (or do I even need to ask)? Or will asking just get me rejected by these girls?

I plan to stay at the Renaissance. Any issue bring girls there? I would also like to try the Love Motels, and it sounds like the girls can can guide me through that experience. But I can imagine that after a few days, I may just want to brig a girl back to my hotel and relax in the room. If there's anything I should know about managing the situation at the Renaissance, I would appreciate that information.

I plan to spend a bit of money, and I am ok with buying bottles and talking to girls at my table. But I don't like the feeling of being targeted or taken advantage of as a tourist. So, if there's any advice to help me avoid rookie mistakes I would be thankful.

If there are other guys interested in trying Scandallo or other spots with me, let me know in DM. I am an American, happy to hang with other guys that are interested in going in with some company. I will be in SP during the last weekend of November, starting November 22.[/QUOTE]So everything that my friend Steve9696 said is spot on and I will add some other things:

1) you can carry a bag with you to Scan. They do have a place to store your stuff while you enjoy your time. When you go to the room, you can take it up with you. I don't know about the go pro. Leave that at home and use in your room. I am not sure about Casarao but if it is a small shoulder bag, I think you will be fine with carrying it in.

2) the girls have heard it all. Tell them what you are looking for and see if they are interested.

3) Renaissance is great. Book the room for two if a regular room and three if you get a suite so you can do threesomes. We stay there all the time and it is in a great area to walk around and find places to eat.

Unfortunately, you are going one week after a whole group of ISGers are heading down. Looks like we will miss each other.

[QUOTE=NF4591;3035413]Hello gents, I am excited to visit Sao Paulo in a few weeks, thank you all for the reports here. I have been active in other places in Europe (DE FKKs, Globe, Diva girls in London), and this will be my first time exploring Sao Paulo. From reading the forum, I think I will probably only go to Scandallo, maybe Casarao on a Sunday, and possibly Palms during the day. A few questions for those in the know, as I get ready for my first trip:

Keeping things: I usually have a few things with me when I go to a club, and I use the lockers at FKK clubs, or take a bag with me when I see a Diva girl in London. Some of the things I might have include lots of cash, toothbrush (this is important if I'm eating at Scandallo and expect DFK), condoms, vapes, items to enhance the experience with a girl (oils, toys), sometimes a gopro if I want to record some memories. I can't imagine carrying all this in my pockets but it sounds like there are no lockers at Scandallo, is that true? If so, how do you guys manage, do you just carry a bag, or is there some place to store your things safely when you're not in a room? Even cash can take a lot of space, where do you keep it?

Taboo subjects: I like to be clear on what the girls will do and I sometimes ask them what they do and like / dislike. I have experienced that at some clubs you can ask anything and the girls are unfazed (Globe, some Diva girls) - but at other places like FKK clubs in DE the girls act offended, they tell their friends, and then all the girls are standoffish. Some of my favorite services are DFK, BBBJ, balls-licking, rimming, filming. Are these services that the girls do in Scandallo and other Sao Paulo clubs, and is it ok to ask about them (or do I even need to ask)? Or will asking just get me rejected by these girls?

I plan to stay at the Renaissance. Any issue bring girls there? I would also like to try the Love Motels, and it sounds like the girls can can guide me through that experience. But I can imagine that after a few days, I may just want to brig a girl back to my hotel and relax in the room. If there's anything I should know about managing the situation at the Renaissance, I would appreciate that information.

I plan to spend a bit of money, and I am ok with buying bottles and talking to girls at my table. But I don't like the feeling of being targeted or taken advantage of as a tourist. So, if there's any advice to help me avoid rookie mistakes I would be thankful.

If there are other guys interested in trying Scandallo or other spots with me, let me know in DM. I am an American, happy to hang with other guys that are interested in going in with some company. I will be in SP during the last weekend of November, starting November 22.[/QUOTE]What is your budget?

[QUOTE=NF4591;3035413]Hello gents, I am excited to visit Sao Paulo in a few weeks, thank you all for the reports here. I have been active in other places in Europe (DE FKKs, Globe, Diva girls in London), and this will be my first time exploring Sao Paulo. From reading the forum, I think I will probably only go to Scandallo, maybe Casarao on a Sunday, and possibly Palms during the day.
[/QUOTE]Based on your previous hobbying experiences, that is a solid plan. And going to Scan multiple days during your trip pays dividends on subsequent days as 1) you are acclimated to the environment so less likely to fall into any traps 2) if you buy bottles, you won't waste them 3) girls see you are a regular and so do the wait staff and probably yield better service.

[QUOTE]
Keeping things: I usually have a few things with me when I go to a club, and I use the lockers at FKK clubs, or take a bag with me when I see a Diva girl in London. Some of the things I might have include lots of cash, toothbrush (this is important if I'm eating at Scandallo and expect DFK), condoms, vapes, items to enhance the experience with a girl (oils, toys), sometimes a gopro if I want to record some memories. I can't imagine carrying all this in my pockets but it sounds like there are no lockers at Scandallo, is that true? If so, how do you guys manage, do you just carry a bag, or is there some place to store your things safely when you're not in a room? Even cash can take a lot of space, where do you keep it?[/QUOTE]There is a very safe and large storage area in Scandallo. You can bring a backpack or even your luggage before your flight home! I usually carry a lot of stuff with me and sometimes bring a backpack and store it at bag check. Then I have a cross body bag with some things (vape, battery pack, cigars, etc.). If I decide to take a girl in house, I would go to bag storage and take other stuff (Condoms, lube, toys, etc.) out of my backpack before taking the girl to the room.

[QUOTE]
Taboo subjects: I like to be clear on what the girls will do and I sometimes ask them what they do and like / dislike. I have experienced that at some clubs you can ask anything and the girls are unfazed (Globe, some Diva girls) - but at other places like FKK clubs in DE the girls act offended, they tell their friends, and then all the girls are standoffish. Some of my favorite services are DFK, BBBJ, balls-licking, rimming, filming. Are these services that the girls do in Scandallo and other Sao Paulo clubs, and is it ok to ask about them (or do I even need to ask)? Or will asking just get me rejected by these girls?[/QUOTE]No issue with asking the girls if they provide certain services. I always try to make sure that the girl is okay with I want. I just ask tactfully or fit it naturally in the conversation. They will either say yes or no. None of your requests are taboo. I or my friends have gotten all of that from Scan girls over the years. It just depends on the girl and your chemistry.

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I plan to stay at the Renaissance. Any issue bring girls there? I would also like to try the Love Motels, and it sounds like the girls can can guide me through that experience. But I can imagine that after a few days, I may just want to brig a girl back to my hotel and relax in the room. If there's anything I should know about managing the situation at the Renaissance, I would appreciate that information.
[/QUOTE]The Renaissance is very girl friendly. Just make sure to book for at least 2 persons. They even have working girls freelancing at night at the lobby and bar. Depending when you return with the girl, they might ask you to register her. As a guest to your room.

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I plan to spend a bit of money, and I am ok with buying bottles and talking to girls at my table. But I don't like the feeling of being targeted or taken advantage of as a tourist. So, if there's any advice to help me avoid rookie mistakes I would be thankful.
[/QUOTE]You seem to be experienced enough to not fall into most of the newbie traps. Just read recent reports, which it seems you did, to get a sense of the market and you will be fine. Some girls might see gringos as newbies and some might throw high numbers as many would not negotiate. Just counter with what you are comfortable paying, while knowing the market pricing.

If you drink, then buying a bottle has many advantages besides lowering cost per drink. It will also hold your table so you can walk around and come back without worries of it being taken by others. They keep bottles for 6 months so if you come back on multiple days, you can keep drinking from it. If you like gin, that is the type of bottle I would get as most of the girls prefer gin.

Thanks for the advice Steve, Anaggie and Socrates. The bag storage is a good tip and if I can carry a small bag around with me then I should be fine. I know zero Portuguese and will be relying on a Translate app, so no use trying to act like I'm not a new tourist. Sounds like if I use common sense I'll have a good time, and after my first visit I'l get to know the girls & staff and they'll get to know me so that it all feels more comfortable. Just like at Globe.

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3035425]What is your budget?[/QUOTE]I'm expecting to spend $500-1 k USD per day, which seems like a pretty good budget to have fun with a couple girls each day and not be too stingy about buying drinks and stuff. I'm expecting that 1000-1500 BRL / hour is about the right range at Scandallo, and I might be able to get closer to 1000 after my first visit. After the first day or two I'd hope to have some phone numbers that I can use to have girls over to my hotel or meet at love motels, and can get a better deal on long bookings (at 1500-2000 for all-nighters?) - but I won't get ahead of myself.

Does that sound reasonable for budget / cost?

[QUOTE=NF4591;3035548]Thanks for the advice Steve, Anaggie and Socrates. The bag storage is a good tip and if I can carry a small bag around with me then I should be fine. I know zero Portuguese and will be relying on a Translate app, so no use trying to act like I'm not a new tourist. Sounds like if I use common sense I'll have a good time, and after my first visit I'l get to know the girls & staff and they'll get to know me so that it all feels more comfortable. Just like at Globe.

I'm expecting to spend $500-1 k USD per day, which seems like a pretty good budget to have fun with a couple girls each day and not be too stingy about buying drinks and stuff. I'm expecting that 1000-1500 BRL / hour is about the right range at Scandallo, and I might be able to get closer to 1000 after my first visit. After the first day or two I'd hope to have some phone numbers that I can use to have girls over to my hotel or meet at love motels, and can get a better deal on long bookings (at 1500-2000 for all-nighters?) - but I won't get ahead of myself.

Does that sound reasonable for budget / cost?[/QUOTE]Sounds perfect. Your plan is basically what we all do. On a negotiation front, I suggest that you keep a ceiling such as 800-1 k for in house for an hour and 1. 5-2 k for overnight. Sometimes the girl is super hot and you have to have her so maybe a little bit more but girls will start with stupid numbers so don't go by what they throw out. Tell them you are going to be in town for a while and have been to Scandello before and know what the going rates are. A few girls will walk away. Let them go because you probably dodged a bullet. Those who stay and will negotiate might be the gems.

Good luck and do report back.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3035559]Sounds perfect. Your plan is basically what we all do. On a negotiation front, I suggest that you keep a ceiling such as 800-1 k for in house for an hour and 1. 5-2 k for overnight. Sometimes the girl is super hot and you have to have her so maybe a little bit more but girls will start with stupid numbers so don't go by what they throw out. Tell them you are going to be in town for a while and have been to Scandello before and know what the going rates are. A few girls will walk away. Let them go because you probably dodged a bullet. Those who stay and will negotiate might be the gems.

Good luck and do report back.[/QUOTE]Anaggie and I def agree on most things but I don't think your going to find what you want for under 1000 in house. Let's not forget he speaks great Portuguese which prob helps get a bit lower. I am always a 1000-1200 guy in house. I haven't had girls come at me with anything over 1500. (Maybe I am lucky). But if she does then I'the say 1000 and settle on 1200 (and not budge above that). But maybe u can try 800 and see how it goes.

[QUOTE=NF4591;3035413]
Keeping things: is there some place to store your things safely when you're not in a room? Even cash can take a lot of space, where do you keep it?
[/QUOTE]Like other members have pointed out, there are lockers in Scandallo that you can use, but they are not free like in FKKs. There is a small fee. I was charged $R50 for a small locker that I used to store a very small bag. I don't' know if bigger lockers cost more.

[QUOTE=NF4591;3035413]
Taboo subjects: I like to be clear on what the girls will do and I sometimes ask them what they do and like / dislike. I have experienced that at some clubs you can ask anything and the girls are unfazed (Globe, some Diva girls) - but at other places like FKK clubs in DE the girls act offended, they tell their friends, and then all the girls are standoffish. Some of my favorite services are DFK, BBBJ, balls-licking, rimming, filming. Are these services that the girls do in Scandallo and other Sao Paulo clubs, and is it ok to ask about them (or do I even need to ask)? Or will asking just get me rejected by these girls?
[/QUOTE]No wonder most avoid taboo subjects! Let me dive in tongue first 😉.

From the list of services, I think the only thing that can get you into such trouble, like you said you did, is "rimming". The reaction depends on whether you want to give or receive. Most girls take proposal for you "giving" quite positively in Brazil (and other countries) but not providing you. Are you looking for receiving?

When I ask girls about rimming, they nervously ask whether I am interested in giving or receiving. When I respond "giving", "yes" is usually their response with a big 😁. Based on the reactions I have seen, I don't think lots of girls like "giving" especially on a first encounter. I personally don't care for it, but I have received it a couple of times unsolicited. If really care about receiving, then you will improve your chances of getting (and also avoid the situation you spoke of) it if you propose it in private after 1st encounter if all goes well. Like anywhere in the world, you can find girls that do pretty much anything for a price. You may have to compromise on optics and other desirable attributes guys usually go for.

[QUOTE=NF4591;3035548]
I'm expecting to spend $500-1 k USD per day...

Does that sound reasonable for budget / cost?[/QUOTE]It is enough for most guys, BUT.

Not enough if you are a stud who fucks many girls a day. There are some forum members that routinely take 4,5 or more Scandallo girls a day and I am pretty sure it costs them a lot more than 1 k / day.

If you can't afford a larger budget but still want to fuck 4,5 or more Scandallo girls a day, then no worries. There is an easy button for that. Make sure you are a Casanova or like Brad Pitt, because hoes love to give them their pussy for free or for very little money.

[QUOTE=NF4591;3035413]
Taboo subjects: I like to be clear on what the girls will do and I sometimes ask them what they do and like / dislike. I have experienced that at some clubs you can ask anything and the girls are unfazed (Globe, some Diva girls) - but at other places like FKK clubs in DE the girls act offended, they tell their friends, and then all the girls are standoffish. Some of my favorite services are DFK, BBBJ, balls-licking, rimming, filming. Are these services that the girls do in Scandallo and other Sao Paulo clubs, and is it ok to ask about them (or do I even need to ask)? Or will asking just get me rejected by these girls?
.[/QUOTE]Taboo.

Brasilian services are DFK, BBBJ, balls-licking, rimming, filming, anal, facefucking cum swallowing, snowballing, facials licking between two 19 year and 20 year garotas, toys, gargunta profunda spray, two blonde loira Amazon scandanavian looking garotas nonstop fucking and sucking two hours. Two true sisters and her mom the next day because they all looked hot on instagram filters. Brasilian porno queens in clinicas or private session, swingy clubs, glory holes, public sex in omnibus, theater, boat, S&M room inside different swingy clubs, orgy rooms, film night in swingy clubs.

Porno post orgy parties during carnival by various producers, 100 percent of all of these can be done, have been done with reports posted by me and members kkkk. Consistently sessioned with more damn cute 20 to 22 year old rimmers & CIM swallowers in casarao for 400 brl per garota than other places, mother daughter hook up was in panda motel botafogo on mothers day. You need repeat visits and longer time in country + basic porto to through the entire porno bucket list, more than once because a bunch of those young cuties at casarao don't hold back.

Filming videos, some garotas side hustle is selling their videos on privacy. Br or doing kinky edgy private porno.

I know garotas in scandallo, casarao, bomboa, cafe photos, prime, tangara, miruna, relax, palms shared with me on their phone their private never to be posted porno videos. They won't send it or share. We watch together on her phone.

All I can say is! Dayum! There's mofo freaks on another level doing weird wild shit with brasilian garotas.

[QUOTE=NF4591;3035548]
I'm expecting to spend $500-1 k USD per day, which seems like a pretty good budget to have fun with a couple girls each day and not be too stingy about buying drinks and stuff. I'm expecting that 1000-1500 BRL / hour is about the right range at Scandallo, and I might be able to get closer to 1000 after my first visit. After the first day or two I'd hope to have some phone numbers that I can use to have girls over to my hotel or meet at love motels, and can get a better deal on long bookings (at 1500-2000 for all-nighters?) - but I won't get ahead of myself.

Does that sound reasonable for budget / cost?[/QUOTE]I think that budget should be pretty adequate unless you're taking two girls for an overnight every day. My personal preference is generally a clinica girl (300 r-600 r) during the day and a date (600-1000 r) or Scandallo / Bomboa / Gauguin (1000-1200) girl at night plus dinner / drinks (500 r). 90% of the time I regret taking a first-time girl overnight, so I avoid that at nearly all costs. The first time with a girl, do it in-house. You also avoid girls pulling things in the room, as we all know. Like payment upfront, bailing after 1 pop, or leaving early.

Some guys are taking and paying 3-4 girls every day, but they have much more stamina than I LOL.

You need to learn Portuguese.

Pimsleur portoguese on audible.

On youtube: portadosfundos.

You are way overspending.

Minimum wage is 1500 r a month, and 300 r deducted to the government.

But whatever, some on this board will label me a cheap charlie, to which I proudly claim the title. Yeah.

But here is the rub. The key.

Cheap charlies get better sex.

If you overpay you label yourself a gringo, and that is where you will become a victim of all the games to give gringos bad sex. IE, covered everything, upsell for every thing.

So. Pick your path, young jedi.

I mean, vagabundo linked up with a new contact from this board two weeks ago. Good dude, but the whole trip he was reporting that he fucked this hot thin white chick and that (he was a colorist which got him banned from my zap group where I am not ashamed of my love for negras) all covered, or at least mostly, and all for just an hour. I mean, great for fatalmodels, and their higher price structure.

But what does ole vagabundo know. He is but a fool. Yeah. You fly in from el paso for a week, and you are a king for a week in scandallo, but you are paying like 4 x or 6 x what locals pay for. And here's the key. Worse sex.

Parabens.

[QUOTE=NF4591;3035548]Thanks for the advice Steve, Anaggie and Socrates. The bag storage is a good tip and if I can carry a small bag around with me then I should be fine. I know zero Portuguese and will be relying on a Translate app, so no use trying to act like I'm not a new tourist. Sounds like if I use common sense I'll have a good time, and after my first visit I'l get to know the girls & staff and they'll get to know me so that it all feels more comfortable. Just like at Globe.

I'm expecting to spend $500-1 k USD per day, which seems like a pretty good budget to have fun with a couple girls each day and not be too stingy about buying drinks and stuff. I'm expecting that 1000-1500 BRL / hour is about the right range at Scandallo, and I might be able to get closer to 1000 after my first visit. [/QUOTE]

Here is how to fuck a Brazilian.

Play.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAk7BkGl2Jw[/URL]

That is 39 minutes 15 seconds. If you get an hour at a prive / clinica, you should play that 1. 5 times for the full hour. Usually, if you are getting 'gringo' ed that means they will rob you by calling an end to the hour at like 45 or 30 minutes. The chick will take a 12 minute shower, and 3 minutes to put a condom on before she sucks your dick, and tell you she can't deep french kiss because of her dental problems, and check your blood tests for dates, and lack of tests for some issue like lack of I don't know, blood sugar levels, so by the time you fuck, you will fuck your condom in her hand for 30 seconds, and she will say 'voce e nervossa' and call security, and you will jerk off while watching her look at you like a lady cop, and hope she didn't steal your stuff. Everyone has been there and done that, or you are not a monger. If you do it right, you fuck for like 55 minutes dick in pussy bare, and trade hoars from the casa with zero friction / ciumes (jealousy), all easier said than done, but, good cross training for muay thai, 2 hours, later on Tuesdays and thursdays for a total of 240 minutes, almost, of cardio, so you can safely train muay thai with hot college euro girls without eye fucking them into banishment.

And then you play, when you want to take a break.

[URL]https://youtu.be/6EYmKAs7mzc?si=Xf09zN-BzC7z7n7i[/URL]

Ok, she will have seen this. You should watch it, discuss it. And use it to learn portoguese.

This is like 45 minutes.

Ok, now just click around.

And before you fuck, if you like to watch porn, and usually she does, ask, what kind of porn do you like? You can do all this on a laptop -- ie, one browser for the music, one maybe for the youtube, and one for xvideos -- and if you like to watch the same porn, play all 3 on a laptop, like a 'burner' laptop, like a used thinkpad t14 gen 2 on amazon (about 300 usd, which vagabundo would ask any of you fine swiss sailors to bring down from the rich world to vagabundo, just PM me and we can arrange deets by zap). So now, you're all squared away. Like this girl, Rebecca vilar, which is the kind of 25 year old porn star that you can fuck in Brazil for a reasonable price (with condom at first), but can't get at the same price in the rich pussy prison world of 'merika or prolly most of euroland.

[URL]https://www.xvideos.com/models/rebeca-villar[/URL]

So there it is.

Now if you repeat with those girls, you figure out which porn you like together, and you make some compilations for like 120 minutes of fucking together which is diary of a ceo podcast healthy porn addiction and sports cross training (after which, swim and walk an hour in the surf on the beach, well fucked because on weeks like last week, you may have muay thai canceled by megaoperacao).

[URL]https://podcasts.apple.com/az/podcast/the-big-porn-debate-3-experts-debate-the-unseen/id1291423644?i=1000673801616[/URL]

I mean, as a rio rule #1 you as a man should fuck every day. Like real 20 something pussy, even 18 year old pussy if you can find it, and it is not hard.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3035627]You need to learn Portuguese.

Pimsleur portoguese on audible.

On youtube: portadosfundos.

You are way overspending.

Minimum wage is 1500 r a month, and 300 r deducted to the government.s.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3035627]You need to learn Portuguese.

Pimsleur portoguese on audible.

On youtube: portadosfundos.

You are way overspending.

Minimum wage is 1500 r a month, and 300 r deducted to the government.

But whatever, some on this board will label me a cheap charlie, to which I proudly claim the title. Yeah.

But here is the rub. The key.

Cheap charlies get better sex.

If you overpay you label yourself a gringo, and that is where you will become a victim of all the games to give gringos bad sex. IE, covered everything, upsell for every thing.

.[/QUOTE]I don't disagree with what you wrote, BUT, you live there and speak (I assume) Portuguese. While it's good to keep in mind the local wages and what locals pay, a short-term visitor w / o language skill isn't likely to get the prices that you can.

And then there is the famous Scandallo.

[QUOTE=Combo;3035758]I don't disagree with what you wrote, BUT, you live there and speak (I assume) Portuguese. While it's good to keep in mind the local wages and what locals pay, a short-term visitor w / o language skill isn't likely to get the prices that you can.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3035421]I am not sure about Casarao but if it is a small shoulder bag, I think you will be fine with carrying it in.
[/QUOTE]There is a some storage in Casarao. It is located at the downstairs bar. Just give your stuff to the barmen and he will store and register it to your card.

Do not forget to pickup your stuff before leaving the club with girl to the hotel. Once I forget to take my jacket, got a new card, and they had some issues to find record in computer.

[QUOTE=Combo;3035758] While it's good to keep in mind the local wages and what locals pay, a short-term visitor w / o language skill isn't likely to get the prices that you can.[/QUOTE]I don't think that is what he wrote. VB1 is not writing about getting the same Scandallo girl for 300 when others are paying 1000. You maybe surprised how much the wealthy locals can pay.

About better sex, there is some truth to that. Logically speaking, when you already have better look, you can sell it. When you don't, you have to sell better service. My personal experience backs it up. A really good looking girl that provide good service probably won't survive in low price place long. Can you have sex with 10 60 yr old women a day for 1 week?

This is my observation and personal experience. One advantage of locals or long term visitors lies in they can have access to what short term visitors don't. The locals have earlier access to new comers that are not influenced as much by money yet. My recent posts hinted at this. Then there are gilrs that do not like to see many men, and they will accept reasonable pay if you are local that repeats

I survey the whole field to know the merchandise. I don'g go to Scandallo to session with a similar girl that I can find in clinica. I also survey many parts of Brazil so I have good idea of pricing of Brazil as a whole. The downside is some parts of Brazil can be quite boring. Curitiba is very small and many venues are nearby each other. I too survey the whole city on foot. At the end of the day, many working girls from different places with price between 180/ h to 800/ h go to Glass or Metro for an average price of 500 (I was told by the manager so I use this price as a reference point).

If I pay 1000 for the girl at Scandallo, we will spend at least half an hour talking or making out. Let me just use one hour which is not out of the line. The girl got paid 1000 for 2 hours. The girl has to pay entrada so she takes home 600 or 700 for 2 hours of work. Now the price becomes more reasonable. The girls who are regular have basically no entrada. You can usually get them cheaper if you know who they are. Only the first one I took was a regular and she has maintained a lower and fairer price. She brought friends to Scandallo frequently when I was still visiting. The fresh friend is the same rate as her. That is a bargain. Haha. If you like to have a few paid girlfriends (for 200 USD a date, 30 days / month, 12 months a year), Scandallo is not good choice due to the overhead. Many are influenced by money in a negative way.

Does anyone know if Piano Black is good and how does it work? A fellow monger just told me about it at a clinica's reception area. He had to go to his room so we didn't finish the convo. It's pretty far for most of us, not sure if I want wonder out there. But he sworn by it.

I came back to SP a few days ago and didn't have any actions with anyone other than my future ex brasileira GF. Kk.

So I hopped on a white taxi to Moema for my usual route.

I first checked out Prime and Miruna but their talent was as good as a Walmart. Then I went to Abbobora. Still shitty attitude but the talent level is about one notch higher than other 2 places on a Tues afternoon. Went with Alona (real blonde) for 1 HR, great service, 400 R.

Then I checked out 57, large line up and some were my repeats from past trips. So I chatted with them for about 20 minutes while consuming a Heineken. Will probably go back in a few days to have with a trio there.

I am in SP for a few more weeks if anyone wants to meetup. I am stilling looking for some mulatas / pretas as I am into darker skinned ATM.

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3035909]Does anyone know if Piano Black is good and how does it work? A fellow monger just told me about it at a clinica's reception area. He had to go to his room so we didn't finish the convo. It's pretty far for most of us, not sure if I want wonder out there. But he sworn by it.[/QUOTE]First let me say I haven't been. But I looked into it before and try to get them to me to their WhatsApp status to no avail. From gpguia, it's a sensual / Nuru massage place with a hand release. No BJ or FS or kissing. Because of that and the distance, I didn't investigate further. IDK if there's a secret menu that nobody talks about. On what's app, they were very vague about their services, there is a barber shop attached it you and they kept asking me if I wanted a shave or a haircut. Hahaha. Maybe it's for locals who need an excuse for plausible deniability.

Since SP has a Japanese district, wondering if there are any Japanese nuru opportunities there or at least soapy massages?

If you didn't know:

Many of these pro Brasileiras would visit Europe / UK for 3 or 6 months in total, where they can make 350 euros an hour vs 350 reals an hour.

One of my all time favorite just came back, she is a model looking woman, 180 cm, beautiful inside out. She charges me local price still. Can't complain. I did buy her a LV wallet a few years ago and she still uses it.

Is it common for Scandallo to scam on the food and beverage bill?

I spent 310 and was billed 400 yesterday.

There was a huge queue to pay and it was small enough that I didn't want to cause a scene, but definitely left a bad taste in my mouth.

I am super into black areolas at the moment. And I've been searching for them online for days. Found one this morning on Fatal. Her pics show nice body which caught my attention.

I messaged her on WhatsApp and got an date at 13 h. She has an apartment near Se. I had lunch near by and showed up right on time.

She looked so much better in person, told me the price was 250 hh or 400 h. I opted for hh just in case. As soon as we started making out, I knew I needed a full hour. I am going to skip the details. I did extend after the first pop. Her 1 h includes anal which was a nice surprise.

During chitchat, she said she is from Cape Verde, just moved to Brazil a few months ago. She has a one bedroom apartment but the deed was done in the living room. I think I will see her one more time before I purpose some full day arrangement (if I am still into black areolas haha).

[QUOTE=PadrePioDorco;3036556]Is it common for Scandallo to scam on the food and beverage bill?

I spent 310 and was billed 400 yesterday.

There was a huge queue to pay and it was small enough that I didn't want to cause a scene, but definitely left a bad taste in my mouth.[/QUOTE]There is a R400 minimum consumption. That means you must spend at least R400. You could just buy 1 beer during your stay and still be charged R400.

They don't want lookie looks.

You can ask a waiter to see what your bill is at. Can get food to go or buy a vape, etc. If you are below the minimum spend.

I am too.

Nia nacci quality.

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3036569]I am super into black areolas at the moment. And I've been searching for them online for days. Found one this morning on Fatal. Her pics show nice body which caught my attention.

I messaged her on WhatsApp and got an date at 13 h. She has an apartment near Se. I had lunch near by and showed up right on time.

She looked so much better in person, told me the price was 250 hh or 400 h. I opted for hh just in case. As soon as we started making out, I knew I needed a full hour. I am going to skip the details. I did extend after the first pop. Her 1 h includes anal which was a nice surprise.

During chitchat, she said she is from Cape Verde, just moved to Brazil a few months ago. She has a one bedroom apartment but the deed was done in the living room. I think I will see her one more time before I purpose some full day arrangement (if I am still into black areolas haha).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3036569]I am super into black areolas at the moment.....[/QUOTE]Next time you are into black areolas find an Indian woman (from India), many have true black areolas, not dark brown.

Hi,

I am currently shopping for an airbnb and most of them don't allow visitors (girls) except for one, be he requires the visitor to give her ID at the entrance.

How do you guys do it when you are trying to get a girl over to your place?

Thanks I'm advance.

[QUOTE=Plerepleple;3036801]Hi,

I am currently shopping for an airbnb and most of them don't allow visitors (girls) except for one, be he requires the visitor to give her ID at the entrance.

How do you guys do it when you are trying to get a girl over to your place?

Thanks I'm advance.[/QUOTE]If you never met the garota in person and you aren't fluent in brasilian slang best to take her fine ass to one of MANY no tell love motels first. My MO I don't look for strange in street or chasing them down online in their building or mine, cause strange is looking for you too. Arrange to meet in any of the nearby love motels first, you can have a room for few hours or all night until breakfast or lunchtime. No worries about stealing shit, or sneaking a smoke in the airbnb bathroom. Vet them first use one of the.

List of love motels.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=2992023[/URL]#post2992023.

Love motel security in Sao Paulo and Dominican Republic are used to dealing with drunk stupid angry ass garotas when things go wrong. Garotas can't leave the premises without getting the okay from you. To ensure shit is resolved nothing missing, and you still alive kkk.

I had to deal with a favela garota in rio with a hot fucking jealousy temper at panda motel. She picked up the coat stand, started swinging at the other garota. Both were high, drunk orgy sex machines. In the end they kissed and made up but brasilian garotas jealous attitude can turn evil quick.

[QUOTE=Plerepleple;3036801]Hi,

I am currently shopping for an airbnb and most of them don't allow visitors (girls) except for one, be he requires the visitor to give her ID at the entrance.

How do you guys do it when you are trying to get a girl over to your place?

Thanks I'm advance.[/QUOTE]It's a shame that many Airbnbs are being restrictive over allowing visitors recently. Used to not be so difficult but something must have changed in last year or two.

I went to Casarao last night to hook up with cutie pie from the green bikini Lush fame. If ya know then you know which one. Finally, her bottle blonde sister was in the house. Finally get a chance to bang real sisters at the same time. Of course, shorter looks good on Instagram with filters. In real life, she is a plain girl-next-door GND type. I was excited to have them both at the same time. Cutie pie was fucking excited too! Damn her sister, a shorty, was disappointing. She seems like a newbie to the garota lifestyle in casarao. She sends sexy DM and private naked pics to prepare for our sister threesome. She was not up to the mark at all. I cut her loose after 1st hour and stayed with hottie, high-energy cutie pie. So if ya want a real sister act it's available in Casarao. But the hype didn't match the sexual energy of double BJ with two sisters. (shrug.

Every Nov and Dec, I get dozens of messages from +55's, +54's, +57's etc. This time some amiga reached out early after she saw my status update in SP. I first met her when she was around 22, shaped like a pencil. Now she is 30 years young and thick. Some guy knocked her up not too long ago and she is still lactating. Her tits are swellin' and milk is deliciosa. Gave her 1.000 for the afternoon. She will be back next week.

Heard a wild statistic in Scan this week from some girls and confirmed by staff. Last week on Thursday 11/6 they set a new record with about 2000 guys and 975 girls. I had heard stories of crazy numbers during F1 week in the past, but nothing like this. The place must have been packed like sardines and the wait for rooms horrendous. Glad I planned my current trip to Brazil to not be in SP during F1.

[QUOTE=Esten;3037566]Heard a wild statistic in Scan last night from some girls and confirmed by staff. A week ago on Thursday 11/6 they set a new record with about 2000 guys and 975 girls. I had heard stories of crazy numbers during F1 week in the past, but nothing like this. The place must have been packed like sardines and the wait for rooms horrendous. Glad I planned my current trip to Brazil to not be in SP last week LOL.[/QUOTE]That's like a world record.

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3036569]I am super into black areolas at the moment. And I've been searching for them online for days. Found one this morning on Fatal. Her pics show nice body which caught my attention.

I messaged her on WhatsApp and got an date at 13 h. She has an apartment near Se. I had lunch near by and showed up right on time.

She looked so much better in person, told me the price was 250 hh or 400 h. I opted for hh just in case. As soon as we started making out, I knew I needed a full hour. I am going to skip the details. I did extend after the first pop. Her 1 h includes anal which was a nice surprise.

During chitchat, she said she is from Cape Verde, just moved to Brazil a few months ago. She has a one bedroom apartment but the deed was done in the living room. I think I will see her one more time before I purpose some full day arrangement (if I am still into black areolas haha).[/QUOTE]What site is "Fatal"?

From reading the forum a little bit before I go to SP, taking out scandallo which is slightly more expensive from the rest, it seems the average nighttime spots range are all 600 BRL+ and daytime spots are 300-600 BRL?

Is that accurate?

[QUOTE=Rahsta;3037718]What site is "Fatal"?[/QUOTE][URL]Www.fatalmodel.com[/URL]

[QUOTE=Rahsta;3037718]What site is "Fatal"?[/QUOTE][URL]https://fatalmodel.com/acompanhantes-sao-paulo-sp[/URL]

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;3037822][URL]https://fatalmodel.com/acompanhantes-sao-paulo-sp[/URL][/QUOTE]Take time to look at the picture and video carefully. Most pictures are old, the girls use picture from when they was 21 and they are now over 30. I seen one with perfecti pictures and video, but on a video she was holding a sign with the date and yeas. It was like 5 years ago. Most girls are wasted in less then 5 years in this domain because of drugs and alcohol. A lot are living the luxury lifstyle and stop going to the gym then eat in the best restaurant everyday. It can ruin a body in a years and most are +10 years at least then their firsts page picture.

[QUOTE=JamesTpy;3037727]From reading the forum a little bit before I go to SP, taking out scandallo which is slightly more expensive from the rest, it seems the average nighttime spots range are all 600 BRL+ and daytime spots are 300-600 BRL?

Is that accurate?[/QUOTE]In my experience. Yes, more or less for the midrange places. For the nighttime spots I'd add room which is generally 150-200 R as I recall and you'll have an entry fee / consumption fee (150-400 R depending on time of night).

The low to midrange daytimes spots will be 300-600 R including room, but higher end ones (I. E. Palms) could be 800 ish.

[QUOTE=Esten;3037573]Heard a wild statistic in Scan this week from some girls and confirmed by staff. Last week on Thursday 11/6 they set a new record with about 2000 guys and 975 girls. I had heard stories of crazy numbers during F1 week in the past, but nothing like this. The place must have been packed like sardines and the wait for rooms horrendous. Glad I planned my current trip to Brazil to not be in SP during F1.[/QUOTE]I welcome feedback from the Scandallo regulars, like Annagie, but having been there several times those numbers do not sound realistic given the spacial constraints. I'd say half those numbers is the most likely record and it would be insanely packed and a huge fire hazard.

[QUOTE=Plerepleple;3036801]Hi,

I am currently shopping for an airbnb and most of them don't allow visitors (girls) except for one, be he requires the visitor to give her ID at the entrance.

How do you guys do it when you are trying to get a girl over to your place?

Thanks I'm advance.[/QUOTE]If I run into this issue I do love motels or bring the girl over later at night. During the day many buildings will have female concierges which sucks, but at night you'll often have an older guy who won't bat an eye.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3037836]If I run into this issue I do love motels or bring the girl over later at night. During the day many buildings will have female concierges which sucks, but at night you'll often have an older guy who won't bat an eye.[/QUOTE]Good insights. I prefer love motels and posted a list with evaluation of services. They have some advantages: when I meet a garota for the first and second time or doing threesomes. I always choose love motels. They want everybody ID going into the room. If they think the garota is ID on phone or whatever is shaky they ask for authentic from the garota and will hold it in reception. I have been there when they kept the garota phone cause something was off. I immediately cut bait, kicked her out of the uber. Don't want to find out too late the issue. They call you before anyone can leave the premises. They want you to verify all is ok before the garota can exit. Are you still alive, dead, scoped. They send security if you don't pickup or respond. They want to get paid for the room and room service items. Either garota or you going to pay. So if you approve the garotas to leave the bill is on you, and should be alive to pay or have your wallet not stolen so phone check now you got your money kkkk these spots are used by cheating spouses of all kinds, parties, smoking the good stuff, swimming pools. They have experience dealing with brasilian garotas when shit goes south, bunch of arguing, jealousy, two drunk& high garotas taking swings at each other kkk. I wrote about that experience. Panda hotel Rio.

On a night out on the town.

Take only stuff willing to lose. Not much in love motel. In Airbnb some Garotas have fast sticky fingers to grab your stuff or some souvenirs from the host. Nobody knows if you ok after garota leaves your Airbnb spot. Or realize day later. , oh shit where is my _ whatever is missing. Plus she sees your stuff in Airbnb and can pay off her loan shark by describing your stuff.

We grown so grown decision are ours. Just Don't give away trust. When horny and drunk had to setup safe environment for my bad in room decisions kklk.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3037835]I welcome feedback from the Scandallo regulars, like Annagie, but having been there several times those numbers do not sound realistic given the spacial constraints. I'd say half those numbers is the most likely record and it would be insanely packed and a huge fire hazard.[/QUOTE]Not sure he means all these people were there at the same time.

Especially for the men.

Some leave, some arrive.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;3037822][URL]https://fatalmodel.com/acompanhantes-sao-paulo-sp[/URL][/QUOTE]I have never seen this site before, how reliable is it?

[QUOTE=ReefLostCause;3037864]Not sure he means all these people were there at the same time.

Especially for the men.

Some leave, some arrive.[/QUOTE]Good points, but even across one night it's A LOT! Anyway, if true that's pretty awesome. I'm just not sure if that makes me want to go there more, or less now. !? Also, when I've gone the guy to girl ratio is frequently pretty even.

1. There are many AirBnb buildings without a doorman, they only use facial recognition. There is no one to stop you, you would need to meet your date near the entrance. Ask garota to send a photo of her ID so that you register her in advance. Obviously don't do the registration, the fact that you have a copy of her ID would increase your safety.

2. I've seen a full private house rentals on AirBnb, [URL]Booking.com[/URL] and VRBO. For extra 20-30% more compared to a studio, you would get 3-5 times the size and way better privacy. You could probably lock all your valuables in one of the rooms to avoid your stuff being stolen. Cheap houses are not so easy to find, it would take time.

3. Book an apartment within walking distance from a good clinic and avoid most of the dangers and challenges of other options. Once you become a regular customer quite a few diamonds will appear.

4. Love motels – great guide and a logic behind selection of this option are provided by Tochka in this forum.

[QUOTE=Plerepleple;3036801]Hi,

I am currently shopping for an airbnb and most of them don't allow visitors (girls) except for one, be he requires the visitor to give her ID at the entrance.

How do you guys do it when you are trying to get a girl over to your place?

Thanks I'm advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bliadun;3037884]1. There are many Airbnb buildings without a doorman, they only use facial recognition. There is no one to stop you, you would need to meet your date near the entrance. Ask the girl to send a photo of her ID so that you can register her in advance. Obviously don't do the registration, the fact that you have a copy of her ID would increase your safety.

2. I've seen full private house rentals on Airbnb, [URL]Booking.com[/URL], and VRBO. For an extra 20-30% more compared to a studio, you would get 3-5 times the size and way better privacy. You could probably lock all your valuables in one of the rooms to avoid your stuff being stolen. Cheap houses are not so easy to find, it would take time.

3. Book an apartment within walking distance of a good clinic and avoid most of the dangers and challenges of other options. Once you become a regular customer quite a few diamonds will appear.

4. Love motels great guide and a logic behind the selection of this option are provided by Tochka in this forum.[/QUOTE]5. At the love motel I don't give a shit if the garotas stay or leave. I'm gone when ready. In your Airbnb scam garotas will be determined to stay in your room unless you pay them MORE money to leave. Been there when a hot sexy vixen turns to hot tempered Brazilian shewolf refusing to budge refusing to leave. Now watcha going to do? Put ya hands on her guarantee her iPhone is video recording everything waiting for you to do a foolish move. Call building security? She counters with military police during violence against women month. Go back to bed. One eye open kkk. Just pay up to get her out of the Airbnb spot you don't own and not fluent in port slang. One guy experienced the gal slashing her wrist while refusing to leave. Shit gets escalated fast when Brazilian Garotas are damned determined knowing you just want this bad situation over. To Airbnb pros think more about how to get her ass OUT safely no no drama rather than sneaking her in. You horny corn dogs have been warned. Peace go out have fun.

This is all true.

Comes under 'foreign internal defense' formally, or as we say here, chica proofing your room, which could be a whole book.

Taser flashlight to blind, shock.

Lock up those knives, laptops, phones, in a safe if possible.

Be prepared to be stabbed, it has happened to vagabundo, so the drill is to start taking video of her, and push her out the door without major bodily injury.

If this were easy, everyone would be doing it, and everyone is trying it.

Selah.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3037889]5. At the love motel I don't give a shit if the garotas stay or leave. I'm gone when ready. In your Airbnb scam garotas will be determined to stay in your room unless you pay them MORE money to leave. Been there when a hot sexy vixen turns to hot tempered Brazilian shewolf refusing to budge refusing to leave. Now watcha going to do? Put ya hands on her guarantee her iPhone is video recording everything waiting for you to do a foolish move. Call building security? She counters with military police during violence against women month. Go back to bed. One eye open kkk. Just pay up to get her out of the Airbnb spot you don't own and not fluent in port slang. One guy experienced the gal slashing her wrist while refusing to leave. Shit gets escalated fast when Brazilian Garotas are damned determined knowing you just want this bad situation over. To Airbnb pros think more about how to get her ass OUT safely no no drama rather than sneaking her in. You horny corn dogs have been warned. Peace go out have fun.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3037835]I welcome feedback from the Scandallo regulars, like Annagie, but having been there several times those numbers do not sound realistic given the spacial constraints. I'd say half those numbers is the most likely record and it would be insanely packed and a huge fire hazard.[/QUOTE]I wasn't there during F1 week because I hate places that are super crowded and avoid these events like the plague. But talking to our main waiter and all the girls at Scandello this week, those numbers are correct. It was crazy packed and I am glad I missed it.

Many ask where do I get those two titties? Those two mulatta titties, while I am riding that mulatta kunt bare with some kush and some mofuggin gin and tonic maybe wit a ball licker girl I pay half her price?

1. Where did I meet her? At a local party from a local forum, which is why I pays to read the local boards like GParena, gp-guia etc.

I designate that particular honeytrap Nia Nacci 1, the first. Mofuggggin cartman and all my ISG friends fukked her too.

2. Now, on the subject of assaults by hoars. A. nia nacci 1 assaulted me on a pernoite at motel sorisso in niteroi, a few days ago, so there is that. Like she assaulted me iwth her choclate nipples, lured me in, like took the whole bag of doritos not for us to share, but to bring back to her house so the warning signs were there, then at 02 h in the morning declared the pernoite over, got agro, and called out to the front desk, threatened calling cops, etc, so I paid and took an uber home. Will I fuck her again? Look at those tits.

Be. Her frequent doubles partner nina deponca assaulted me when I paid nina half what I paid nia naccci the first.

See. Her other frequent doubles partner stabbed me in a niteroi airbnb until I paid her the same as Nina nacci the first, so again, be ware. Just in the arm though. These girls know how to use knives. So. There is that. Might want to make sure that the only kitchen knives available are dull.

The. And Nia nacci 4 is according to her bar owner contact, one of the trash casas where Lorena green the actual porn star fucks for 80 r, in jail.

E. Nia nacci 3, 18, who I also barebacked as did my ISG friends, is the one who lured me into the unsuccessful cell phone theft.

So.

Valued viewers.

That is Rio. If you spend 2000 days here and fuck 1000+ hoars, it will happen.

Selah.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3037972]This is all true.

Comes under 'foreign internal defense' formally, or as we say here, chica proofing your room, which could be a whole book.

Taser flashlight to blind, shock.

Lock up those knives, laptops, phones, in a safe if possible.

Be prepared to be stabbed, it has happened to vagabundo, so the drill is to start taking video of her, and push her out the door without major bodily injury.

If this were easy, everyone would be doing it, and everyone is trying it.

Selah.[/QUOTE]

Chicago85 I agree with your comment and suspect those numbers covered the entire day from 12 pm to 5 am. Still likely insanely packed during prime time.

Also during F1 week the hotel rates go through the roof and some of the Airbnb's even get in on the price gouging.

The big takeaway is to avoid SP during F1 if possible. Things were back to normal last week at Scan.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3037836]If I run into this issue I do love motels or bring the girl over later at night. During the day many buildings will have female concierges which sucks, but at night you'll often have an older guy who won't bat an eye.[/QUOTE]I've stayed at dozens of airbnbs in SP. I generally prefer the ones with guards just so I don't get drugged when brining back new gfs.

But my rule is to only bring back the ones I trust and never had issues with.

Also, based on my experience, the Airbnb's in jadim paulista and itaim bibi tend to be very strict due to condomino (HOA) rules. Whereas Moema / Brooklin airbnbs are more flexible. I've also stayed in Pinheiros and even Butanta. My current airbnb is a 1-bedroom apartment in Vila Mariana, above a burger joint that only opens 3 days a week. I like it a lot because it's in a upper middle class barrio and Tangara is just around the corner. I wouldn't bring back anyone I don't trust as there is no guard.

I recently posted about the cabo verdiana I met. I have since gotten to "known" her quite a bit. Haha. She just had a sexy photoshoot and sent me some pics. Now she is coming over tonight.

She certainly knows how to play the game haha.

Let's see if I can attach pics this time.

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3038456]I recently posted about the cabo verdiana I met. I have since gotten to "known" her quite a bit. Haha. She just had a sexy photoshoot and sent me some pics. Now she is coming over tonight.

She certainly knows how to play the game haha.

Let's see if I can attach pics this time.[/QUOTE]Her boobs are awfully small but from what is shown the rest looks quite good. I seemed to have missed your earlier post, where did you meet her?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2764124]Seattle Tourism FX, are. Oscar Freire, 146 B. This is best FX exchange shop in town and a short downhill walk from the Renaissance.[/QUOTE]Axel Heyst,

Thank you sir. Went there this AM to exchange USD. 5.2 compared to 4.4 at airport and 4.6 at ATM.

No more ATM while I am in SaoPaulo.

[QUOTE=ZuluTango25;3038603]Axel Heyst,

Thank you sir. Went there this AM to exchange USD. 5.2 compared to 4.4 at airport and 4.6 at ATM.

No more ATM while I am in SaoPaulo.[/QUOTE]The only place I change money in SP. Went there last week with some friends and the XE rate was 5. 28, offered 5. 10 and they said best they could do was 5. 15, but I asked if he could 5. 2 since we were exchanging a large amount of new $100 bills and they agreed after a quick phone call.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/8hucXAtPqP5bWA2t6?g_st=ic[/URL]

[QUOTE=ZuluTango25;3038603]4.6 at ATM.[/QUOTE]4. 6 at ATM is awfully low.

I took out R2. 000 yesterday and it came out to be 373.72 USD. That would be 5.36 reais per dollar.

Remember to use a no fee ATM or "yes fee" ATM if your card refunds you the fees. Always decline conversion rate offered on screen.

There are red banco24 horas ATMs in most bigger supermarkets that charge a flat fee of R25. Don't use those blue 24 hour ATMs at the airport.

[QUOTE=ZuluTango25;3038603]Axel Heyst,

Thank you sir. Went there this AM to exchange USD. 5.2 compared to 4.4 at airport and 4.6 at ATM.

No more ATM while I am in SaoPaulo.[/QUOTE]I changed money in Sao Paulo at a Bradesco ATM in October and got a rate of 5. 399 with no fee and in Nobember at a rate of 5. 27 with no fee, both of which were very close to the posted exchange rate at the time. Except perhaps at the airport, the only way you would get 4. 6 at an ATM is if you don't decline the 12%-15% mark up to the conversion rate they offer you, as I doubt the other banks don't have similar rates to Bradesco.

I'm not sure of any other banks, but the Banco Bradesco has this ridiculous button on the left side of the screen that you push to not get their ridiculous conversion rate that is probably 15% below the official rate. I can only imagine that it's there to get newbie suckers. Sleazy for such a large scale bank that is supposed to be respectable. I've also had many occasions where I had to push the button repeatedly to get it to give me the official rate. It's like a sleazy scam to hit newbies in Brazil. That's all I can figure. I don't recall this with Itau Bank. I quit using Bradesco because of this.

Hi gents,

I am looking for a daytime venue where I can sit at the bar and interact with GPS. I am at Tangara 3 times week because it is just a stone's throw away from my apartment. 57 has been kinda disappointing in the early afternoon. Your recs are appreciated.

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3039227]Hi gents,

I am looking for a daytime venue where I can sit at the bar and interact with GPS. I am at Tangara 3 times week because it is just a stone's throw away from my apartment. 57 has been kinda disappointing in the early afternoon. Your recs are appreciated.[/QUOTE]Espaço Morumbi.

Are. Chafic Maluf, 101 - Chácara Santo Antônio (Zona Sul), São Paulo. SP, 04710-160, Brasil.

+55 11 98242-6000.

Open.

Monday 11 AM-9 PM.

Tuesday 11 AM-9 PM.

Wednesday 11 AM-9 PM.

Friday 11 AM-9 PM.

Saturday 11 AM-9 PM.

Espaço Vergueiro. Relax Adulto Rua Vergueiro, 170 - Liberdade São Paulo 01504-001 Brazil.

[URL]https://espacovergueiro.com.br[/URL]

Mon: 18:00 – 04:00.

Tue: 18:00 – 04:00.

Wed: 18:00 – 04:00.

Thu: 18:00 – 04:00 Fri.

: 18:00 – 04:00.

Sat: 18:00 – 04:00.

Daily foto lineup on Wassap, address available on google map and uber, many reviews on gpguia. Check ahead of t.

For ideal visit time afternoon or evenings.

Some garotas from Tangara, Miruna, Prime, Enjoy, Lumina Spa, Yankin, Reserve Lux rotate there on different afternoon or evenings. Paying bar tab is separate from pay paying for session similar to Tangara. . Rooms are so-so. Espaço Morumbi is directly across the street from swingy bar Inner Club. A few garotas go there with clients after bar closes.

Last night was fun but beware of the price to take one home. Got to Scandallo about 10 p, while at the patio bar having a drink, I was approached by a few garotas but I was not in a rush and after some small conversations they left. While at the bar, I was approached by a previous girl I had met the last time (a year ago) she remembered me and I surely remembered her, so she told me she's around if I'm interested, so I told her yes, but nothing more than are $ 1 K. Another great session with her, money well spent. I decided to move around and see what else I would be interested in and of course I found a thick, well-rounded Morena. We negotiated are $1 k, another great session. It was almost 4 am, so I decided that If I get the right price are $1 K I would ask a garota to do an overnight, given the time. I asked a few and all wanted upward of 3 K. I finally got one that agreed to 1 K. She said everything was open except anal. We went back to my hotel room, got right to business! In the morning, we went at it again, all good! She gets dressed and she pulls out her phone to get her payment of an payment app. She puts it for are $5 K or 1 K USD. I said that's a mistake. She said no that's the price we agreed to. I said never have I paid 1 KUSD for a session overnight or not. I told her I was not going to pay that amount and she could call the police. She started to sob, mentioning in Europe she gets 1 K USD with no problems. After a few minutes, we agreed on are $2. 5 K. Just saying, when you negotiate always make sure those garotas are quoted in Reais and not USD. #lessonlearned.

[QUOTE=Fouche;3039373]She gets dressed and she pulls out her phone to get her payment of an payment app. She puts it for are $5 K or 1 K USD. I said that's a mistake. She said no that's the price we agreed to. I said never have I paid 1 KUSD for a session overnight or not. I told her I was not going to pay that amount and she could call the police. She started to sob, mentioning in Europe she gets 1 K USD with no problems. After a few minutes, we agreed on are $2. 5 K. Just saying, when you negotiate always make sure those garotas are quoted in Reais and not USD. #lessonlearned.[/QUOTE]This is Brazil, not Europe or America. Price quotes are in Reals unless explicitly stated otherwise. I would have paid 1k Reals and took the issue to Scandallo management if she wasn't happy.

[QUOTE=Fouche;3039373]She puts it for are $5 K or 1 K USD. I said that's a mistake. She said no that's the price we agreed to. I said never have I paid 1 KUSD for a session overnight or not. I told her I was not going to pay that amount and she could call the police. She started to sob, mentioning in Europe she gets 1 K USD with no problems. After a few minutes, we agreed on are $2. 5 K. Just saying, when you negotiate always make sure those garotas are quoted in Reais and not USD. #lessonlearned.[/QUOTE]Look at the bright side, had you picked one of those who quoted you 3 k, you would have been 3 k usd down in damages. (joking).

But jokes aside, we all know what she did. You paid 1.5 k more to get her to leave. This happens to all of us if we are doing this long enough.

She must be one of those who tour in Europe for 3 - 6 months a year. I might even know her. If you have her social links, please DM to me and I can let you know haha.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3039298]Espao Morumbi.

Espao Vergueiro.[/QUOTE]Great recs. I've been in Morumbi before, but Espao Vergueiro is new. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3039375]This is Brazil, not Europe or America. Price quotes are in Reals unless explicitly stated otherwise. I would have paid 1k Reals and took the issue to Scandallo management if she wasn't happy.[/QUOTE]Yup. She knew exactly what she was doing.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3039375] I would have paid 1k Reals and took the issue to Scandallo management if she wasn't happy.[/QUOTE]That's what I would have done. Actually I had done exactly that before:

Back in 2022, the famous Marina (Mariana?) top model tried to pull that on me but as soon as I brought up Scandallo management she backed off. Pretty sure they get banned if they scam customers.

[QUOTE=Fouche;3039373]She puts it for are $5 K or 1 K USD. I said that's a mistake. She said no that's the price we agreed to.[/QUOTE]I would tell her I am from Colombia and pay her 1000 pesos. Joking aside, I would go back to Scandallo the next day to tell the club what she did. Or you could have used it as a leverage and still could if you have her number

Visited SP for the 6th time for 10 days. Had many good sessions in Yankin, Miruna, 57 Friends house, Baronases and Casarao. Tangara was nothing to write about and with only English its very difficult to get presentation of all girls there. Natasha in Baronases was great with big naturals. Yankin girls were more involved even though they were less than 7's and manager speaks English.

6 visits to Casarao and all of them were great with 300 for 30 minutes and only was 1 okayish due to CBJ. But the rooms were very bad and getting worse each year.

[QUOTE=ThisOneFs1;3039510]Visited SP for the 6th time for 10 days. Had many good sessions in Yankin, Miruna, 57 Friends house, Baronases and Casarao. Tangara was nothing to write about and with only English its very difficult to get presentation of all girls there. Natasha in Baronases was great with big naturals. Yankin girls were more involved even though they were less than 7's and manager speaks English.

6 visits to Casarao and all of them were great with 300 for 30 minutes and only was 1 okayish due to CBJ. But the rooms were very bad and getting worse each year.[/QUOTE]Casarao rooms are bad as in small and cramped, or dirty and unhygienic?? And overall, are the quality of girls much better at Scandallo than Casarao? Is it generally a classier, higher end girl at Scandallo, and a more 'ratchet' and 'unrefined' type of girl at Casarao? I've never been to Casarao before, and really love the girls and vibe at Scandallo. However, taking multiple girls at Scandallo and its very high room fee (x2 if you take two girls, for some odd reason) makes it a little prohibitively expensive, so for my next trip I'm trying to frequent Casarao more and get more bang for my buck whilst not decreasing too much in quality.

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3039378]Look at the bright side, had you picked one of those who quoted you 3 k, you would have been 3 k usd down in damages. (joking).

But jokes aside, we all know what she did. You paid 1.5 k more to get her to leave. This happens to all of us if we are doing this long enough.

She must be one of those who tour in Europe for 3 - 6 months a year. I might even know her. If you have her social links, please DM to me and I can let you know haha.

Great recs. I've been in Morumbi before, but Espao Vergueiro is new. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Espacio Morumbi has been promoting the identical twins duo. Thought it was fake AI but I will go for the presentation lineup to see for myself.

[QUOTE=Jbob084;3039513]Casarao rooms are bad as in small and cramped, or dirty and unhygienic?? And overall, are the quality of girls much better at Scandallo than Casarao? Is it generally a classier, higher end girl at Scandallo, and a more 'ratchet' and 'unrefined' type of girl at Casarao? I've never been to Casarao before, and really love the girls and vibe at Scandallo. However, taking multiple girls at Scandallo and its very high room fee (x2 if you take two girls, for some odd reason) makes it a little prohibitively expensive, so for my next trip I'm trying to frequent Casarao more and get more bang for my buck whilst not decreasing too much in quality.[/QUOTE]Casarao rooms suck cause they are small, tight, for two or threesomes. Basic. I always get rooms 1 to 11; those are larger with a stripper pole. Easier for the dudes to clean the room. I wish they would use old ladies to clean the rooms, like in CLínicas or centers price. Mofo guys don't really give a shit if the room is thoroughly cleaned.

I found room #2 to be one of the better rooms. It's across from the sofas so everyone can see you going in or out but I don't frighin care. The lower room numbers 1-11 are easier to get service if ya want extra drinks, extended time, or more towels, because closer to the reception desk.

It's fun to see garotas put on their makeup on the sofa and mirror. They prefer not to go into the bathroom to change. Later you can see garotas and dates waiting for rooms to open up. Hint if there is no place to sit with your garota the wait will be 40 minutes solid.

I type the mofo greedy reception guy 10 or 20 brl to guarantee getting emy preferred room #2.

You can find all types of garotas. Last night got a tall blonde 20 year old loira thin sexy tight body for 400 brl one hour. She swallowed and gurgled every drop of thick splooge for 50 brl more. I prefer slow nights cause.

More garotas than guys on slow nights sun to Tues. They offer churassaco at the downstairs bar.

Thur Fri and weekends fuvking way too many swinging dicks, dudes everywhere not enough garotas. Ymmv.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3039521]Espacio Morumbi has been promoting the identical twins duo. Thought it was fake AI but I will go for the presentation lineup to see for myself.[/QUOTE]If it goes well, let me know. I visited Morumbi often last year.

I am on the coast with my future ex. Nice beach, she picked it. I got a back massagem and condom anal on the beach. Just 2 of us. Be back in SP tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3039523]......Last night got a tall blonde 20 year old loira thin sexy tight body for 400 brl one hour. She swallowed and gurgled every drop of thick splooge for 50 brl more.......[/QUOTE]You need to tip for that in other countries but not in Brazil. The garotas actually enjoy doing that.

I have been coming to Sao Paulo for several years and have stayed at hotels, Airbnb's and condos. Currently I am in a very nice condo with a kitchen and even cooked breakfast for my last guest. However, last night I had a new guest come and the receptionist would not let her in. I don't speak Portuguese but the girl translated through the speaker for me. I told her I paid for two guests and should not be restricted. She said I have to send ID to the management company and have their approval before she would let her in. We decided to go to a local love hotel which was ok but she had planned to stay with me until early morning in the condo. So far this is the first place that actually refused entry for a girl. I will talk with a different reception person today to see what I can do about it. Unfortunately I booked this through the weekend and Tuesday next week when I fly back to pussy prison.

So, I guess it can happen. At this place you cannot even show the girl's ID. The guest has to be first approved by their management. I was going to get a different hotel for the night but she wanted to do the love motel because it was only 80 reals and walking distance. She likes to save my money. I was one of her first clients when she came to Sao Paulo and we have kept in touch for years.

I like to have my regulars like her stay with me for several hours and now I feel restricted. Hmmm always something to learn. Guess I will research a nice love hotel. If anyone has a suggestion, I am at the north end of Vila Mariana at the start of Avenida Paulista.

For reference I have never had a problem at the Marriott Executive Apartments, Hiltons, and many smaller hotels. Apartments from [URL]Booking.com[/URL] were ok if they did not have a reception just a key.

Brazil is being fucked up by Church Lady Lawyers Rabbi's wives or female rabbis or female fucking religious leaders in other religions whatever you call them, I should know, I am both a rabbi's assistant and a lawyer, and teach at a temple.

Meanwhile, like the protagonist in Amado's the double death of quincas water bray, I live the remaining 64 years of my life until I turn Moses' age in brothels, where I am virtual staff, like JimmyBoy, the star of Godfather 1 the Ferrarris, I am the star of Godfather II, the ferrarris second generation, as I am 20 years the older man's junior, and still learning from him, like always choose reais when paying by credit card for small transactions.

Selah.

Brazilians are jealous of the US Dollar x BRL exchange rate, and are finding ways to tax for every cost per fuck per minute, assign Professor Vagabundo credit for that term.

CPF was coined at least for me by Cartman, the OG Epste! And, as Cost Per Fuck, a joke worthy of Amado.

CPFPM was coined by his one time long lost friend, Vagabundo, who had some good Sabbath's on the balcony cuberto, and he even bought a working girl for me, and let me come up to the spare bedroom to borrow a charger, to crash, and to fuck Nina De Ponca x a thin blond go to hoar whose name but whose picture I do not forget.

Someone on this board recommended Amado, the double death of qunicas water bray. Now hear ye this, ye rabbis of the rabo -- a Student of mine, a jew and a spinozite Jew nonetheless, borrowed my copy of that fine book, and sent me this video.

[URL]https://youtu.be/4zPMHwJXn-0?si=DdqP_8K3rs1dSjAD[/URL]

So let us together, as freinds, watch this movie and celebrate our lives as mongers as we age, day by day.

[QUOTE=WonderWhy;3039605]I have been coming to Sao Paulo for several years and have stayed at hotels, Airbnb's and condos. Currently I am in a very nice condo with a kitchen and even cooked breakfast for my last guest. However, last night I had a new guest come and the receptionist would not let her in. I don't speak Portuguese but the girl translated through the speaker for me. I told her I paid for two guests and should not be restricted. She said I have to send ID to the management company and have their approval before she would let her in. We decided to go to a local love hotel which was ok but she had planned to stay with me until early morning in the condo. So far this is the first place that actually refused entry for a girl. I will talk with a different reception person today to see what I can do about it. Unfortunately I booked this through the weekend and Tuesday next week when I fly back to pussy prison..[/QUOTE]

For Airbnb Bros, Condo guys, self check-in apartment Dudes. Have a PLAN for getting the garota out of your place. Guys spend a lot of time figuring out how to get hot garota in to your place. More important is your plan for getting her ass OUT of your place peacefully. If you don't understand rapid fire garotas that are TPM ing when they are damn upset and unhappy due to misunderstanding. Shit can go south quick. I will repost my review of lovey dovey no tell motels.

With Moema or Scandallo as a starting point.

Sao Paulo. Love motels.

Andar de Cima. Sutes. Centro, So Paulo (erotic fun suites, short Uber from Casarao, next door to Love Cabaret, suites suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service, fun party atmosphere in suites).

Motel Colonial Palace (fucking best economical deal on the budget, decent pool, excellent food, and breakfast, short Uber from Scandallo, suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service, damn uber drivers prefer pickup outside instead of meeting in suites, the religious uber drivers never come inside, only outside drop-off, or pick up or they cancel the ride).

Lush Motel (unidade Ipiranga) (pool with toys, modern suites, short Uber from Scandallo decent size pool, suitable for threesome, all night, foursome are a bit tight, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service).

Secrets Motel are. Sebastopol, 47 - Vila Inglesa, So Paulo (nice daytime midpoint place to meet garotas when they live far away, suites average, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, marola friendly, service sucks, order iFood).

Hotel For Lovers, one minute walk from Jabaqura Metro.

Are. Dos Jequitibs, 261 - Jardim Oriental, (the rooms suck, the service sucks, and the price is cheap mas barrato, order iFood, however, the location for afternoon meetup, no Uber needed. Garotas takes the metro to Jabaquara Metro, walks less than one minute to the motel, a good meet-up spot when there is rain, afternoon thunderstorms, and traffic backed up for miles, and promised to meet at 5 pm, nothing else to recommend about the place). Garotas can leave by metro or onibus, easy in easy out for them).

Swing Motel, no Morumbi, So Paulo (far from scandallo, 20 min uber from Moema, erotic fun suites, suites suitable but tight for threesome, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for more garotas, ok service, colorful suites).

In Rio.

Panda Motel Botafogo, (top end suites with fvcking large ass pool, suitable for threesome, foursome all night, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, great service in tuxedos, short Uber from Monte Carlos).

Motel Motor Inn.

Deslumbre Motor Inn motel.

Av. Atlntica, 3621 - Interlagos, So Paulo. SP.

(far from Scandallo, 30 min Uber from Moema, it is easier to meet the "live far away" Garota at this spot, some live fuvking one or two hours away. Nothing special, it is located by the water, suites are fine nothing to get excited about. Marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for more garotas, slow service, basic rooms, blue tooth doesn't work. Best to order iFood, poorly trained receptionist are too damn slow).

Motel My Flowers.

Avenida doutor Ricardo Jafet 1188 (suites with small to medium size pool, suitable for threesome, tight for foursome, just ok place, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, below average service).

Motel LE Nid.

Av. Washington Lus, 1003 - Chcara Flora, So Paulo.

It 10 min from Secrets Motel, 25 from Moema, 35 min Scandallo, nothing stands out.

Location is easier to meet the "live far away"garota daytime the ones that live one or two hours away. Nothing special, suites are fine nothing to get excited about. Marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for more garotas, average service.

I don't remember a lot.

Motel Asturias. Av. Das Naes Unidas, 7715 - Pinheiros, So Paulo. SP.

(went there but the garotas didn't want to stay. , it is an old fashioned dated place Motel Asturia has a heated pool we didn't stay don't remember why, the better suites were occupied, it is an old fashioned dated place, we bailed and went elsewhere.

Intense Motel Rua Arnaldo Magniccaro, 489 - Interlagos, So Paulo. SP, (suites with small to medium size Jazcuzxi suitable for a threesome, decent ok place, Marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, good to average service, another spot to for afternoon rendezvous with live far away garotas.).

Crush Motel. So Paulo So Paulo.

Av. Dr. Ricardo Jafet, 1862 - Vila Mariana, So Paulo. SP.

(5 min Uber from Scandallos, the exterior is lit up like Christmas, inside the rooms stuff doesn't work, the service stinks, and the price is expensive due to being near Scandallo.

The suites are suitable very tight for a threesome, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for more garotas, slow ass, and dumb service).

Prestige Motel So Paulo Prestige Motel So Paulo. Av. Dr. Ricardo Jafet, 1166.

(5 min Uber from Scandallo went there with three 3 scandals garotas, they liked the place, the higher-end suites are better, jacuzzi, pool, small romantic, erotic chocolates throughout the room, modern suites, short Uber from Scandallo decent size pool, suitable for foursome, marola friendly, credit card accepted, need ID at reception, extra charge for two or more garotas, solid good service).

In the love motels, they have sex toys, creams, lotions, and fun stuff, I let the garota fantasies go wild!! Let them order sexy lingerie, kinky stripper gstrings on the menu to boost to the level of Brazilian wild ass IoP. Favorite item is three packs of garganta profunda throat spray. Easier for a pair of young 20-year-old newbie brancas to compete in deep throat contests, swallowing down to the balls in lickable cherry, strawberry, mint, or chiclet flavors. No gagging either. Kkk.

Uber remembers all these addresses in Uber cache and brings them up at the most inappropriate times or sends stupid message "hey you went to Secrets motel 1 am yesterday, there are five Uber drivers nearby ready to take you to Secrets motel again in five minutes. ". I setup two seperate uber accounts with local phones number and two different email address. Uber make it easy to switch between profiles to keep the love motels profile not available to prying jealous eyes kkk.

I found the motel guide hard to navigate.

Go. [URL]guiademoteis.com.br[/URL].

[QUOTE=WonderWhy;3039605]I have been coming to Sao Paulo for several years and have stayed at hotels, Airbnb's and condos. Currently I am in a very nice condo with a kitchen and even cooked breakfast for my last guest. However, last night I had a new guest come and the receptionist would not let her in. I don't speak Portuguese but the girl translated through the speaker for me. I told her I paid for two guests and should not be restricted. She said I have to send ID to the management company and have their approval before she would let her in. We decided to go to a local love hotel which was ok but she had planned to stay with me until early morning in the condo. So far this is the first place that actually refused entry for a girl. I will talk with a different reception person today to see what I can do about it. Unfortunately I booked this through the weekend and Tuesday next week when I fly back to pussy prison.

So, I guess it can happen. At this place you cannot even show the girl's ID. The guest has to be first approved by their management. I was going to get a different hotel for the night but she wanted to do the love motel because it was only 80 reals and walking distance. She likes to save my money. I was one of her first clients when she came to Sao Paulo and we have kept in touch for years.

I like to have my regulars like her stay with me for several hours and now I feel restricted. Hmmm always something to learn. Guess I will research a nice love hotel. If anyone has a suggestion, I am at the north end of Vila Mariana at the start of Avenida Paulista.

For reference I have never had a problem at the Marriott Executive Apartments, Hiltons, and many smaller hotels. Apartments from [URL]Booking.com[/URL] were ok if they did not have a reception just a key.[/QUOTE]I am SP now and noticed many apts now advertising no guest rules. Even the one that I have stayed few months ago changed their policy on the guests.

Think Moema apts are more flexible than other high end neighborhoods like Villa Olimpia.

Guess just make sure to ask the host before booking the apt.

In how can you be so effing stupid point of the day, ann amari clearly just wants money to get her hair done. I bought her a fake fro when we fucked in hotel lips too briefly on Monday. I could easily get her real jobs, give her needed technology, but she is working at a burger joint, just moved from one favela to another which I am not going into as she suggests.

I mean, I could try to talk to her mother as I met her mom when I took her to dinner at outback at norte shopping, but it is such a non starter. She kind of baits the hook with I want to have your kids, but the rational side of vagabundo knows that you can take the girl out of the favela, but you can't take the favela out of the girl. If I did give her a kid, it would end up like the dog I bought her -- in the favela, a hostage for my wallet.

I had major surgery in 2023 and she was supposed to come, but she was effing late. And months later, threw a scandallo over wanting to get paid for no sex. And most recently repeated the scandallo. Nota bene, the word, which means a drama to get money from gringos -- at my new place, trying again to fuck it up.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3039649]For Airbnb Bros, Condo guys, self check-in apartment Dudes. Have a PLAN for getting the garota out of your place. Guys spend a lot of time figuring out how to get hot garota in to your place. More important is your plan for getting her ass OUT of your place peacefully. If you don't understand rapid fire garotas that are TPM ing when they are damn upset and unhappy due to misunderstanding. Shit can go south quick. I will repost my review of lovey dovey no tell motels.

With Moema or Scandallo as a starting point.

Sao Paulo. Love motels..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tochka;3039649]For Airbnb Bros, Condo guys, self check-in apartment Dudes. Have a PLAN for getting the garota out of your place. Guys spend a lot of time figuring out how to get hot garota in to your place. More important is your plan for getting her ass OUT of your place peacefully. If you don't understand rapid fire garotas that are TPM ing when they are damn upset and unhappy due to misunderstanding. Shit can go south quick. I will repost my review of lovey dovey no tell motels.

With Moema or Scandallo as a starting point.

Sao Paulo. Love motels..[/QUOTE]Thank you very much! I will take advantage of the list.

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3039524] Nice beach, she picked it. I got a back massagem and condom anal on the beach. Just 2 of us. [/QUOTE]Looks great! What beach is it?

I've just returned from my first time in Sao Paulo, and I had a great time. Thanks to this group for reporting back your experiences here, it was good guidance for my trip and shows it's worth reading the forums to make for a good first-time trip. Also special thanks to SocratesNY and your friends for showing me around Scandallo and introducing me to a couple girls so that I wasn't as much of a sitting duck and obvious newbie on my first visit. I still made some Newbie mistakes, see below, but that's ok. Sharing a few highlights and lessons learned, to help future travelers:

Hotel: I stayed at the Renaissance because of the guidance from this group, and it worked out great. The neighborhood (Jardins) was active and safe, with plenty of restaurants where I was able to get by on English and the Google Translate app, and my american credit cards worked just fine. The hotel was really good if you have status with Marriott, because they have a pretty nice lounge with breakfast (including eggs to order), where they also serve happy hour and soft drinks and filtered water available all day. I was also upgraded to one of the suites. And I got a feeling they have lots of them and upgrades aren't so hard. So that was a nice touch too. I brought a girl back one night around 11 pm and was expecting to need to register her, but we walked through the lobby and past reception to the elevators without any hassles. I hear from you guys that maybe it's good to register the girl, but in this case I was just glad to get through unnoticed, the girl came and went without issue, so it worked out fine.

Transport: Uber worked great for all transport. There's a taxi option where the cars are fine and they can use bus lanes, I tried that a few times but I wasn't really noticing when or where they were using the bus lanes. Uber black was also an option, but a Honda or similar would show up, so I don't know if it made much of a difference to the type of car. Only time Uber was inconvenient was when I was leaving for the airport at the end of my trip. Between traffic and mistakes from the driver he took over a half-hour to arrive to pick me up, so definitely budget a lot of time to get to the airpot.

How I spent my time. I went to Scandallo nearly every night, and to The Palms on one day.

Scandallo: top-notch experience, if you like Globe in Switzerland this might appeal to you. Food was good, drinks were great, everything was classy and professional. Being a repeat visitor pays dividends, as the girls get to know you, the security guys, front desk, room staff, and waiters get to know you, and you get better treatment all-around. Yes it can be expensive, but as the girls recognize you and know you have some experience, you get less of the newbie BS and the prices get fairer. I admit I got played on my first day. SocratesNY and his friends introduced me to a couple girls they knew on the first night, and I ended up going with both of them during my trip. The first one was super cute and spoke English, and she convinced me to take her and her friend all night. At 5 k BRL each! I had talked them down from 6 k per girl, but I know now that this was a newbie rate. When I paid at the front desk and the girls told the reception woman the rate, she gave a look to the girls, like 'good job getting this guy to pay that much'. I knew I was overpaying, but it was the newbie premium I guess, and I got better over time. On my last day I took a girl all-night for 2500 BRL, which I think was more fair.

I'm willing to spend instead of looking for the best bargain, so I think Scandallo was a good model for clubs worldwide (Globe in CH is another one of my favorites) - the only improvement would be if Scandallo had set prices so that you don't have to negotiate with every girl. At the same time, it was nice that the girls don't charge for extras. Girls that do anal or rimming will just do it, they don't charge different prices, unlike european clubs where there are extras for each service. The Scandallo model can also be a bargain if you take a girl all-night, since cost for a second, third, or fifth hour, doesn't 2 x, 3 x, or 5 x your price. As some have mentioned here, Scandallo also has a nice model for buying bottles, where they put a number on your bottle and you can ask for it on a future visit. It attracts girls over to you when you have bottles at your table (though it's not hard to attract the girls either way), so it can be a nice investment that doesn't get wasted if you don't finish your bottles on one day. Also, every girl would offer me her number and mention that she's willing to come over to my hotel on another day. So I collected a few numbers every day, and some of the girls continue to message me, and are even sending me photos and videos.

The Palms: As many have said here, the manager was really nice and helpful, he spoke English and told me how it would work. I paid 350 to the girl in the room, and 450 to reception after the room, for a total of 800 BRL. I chose Eva and she was even better looking in-person than on the iPad. But she was very mechanical, she wouldn't kiss, and she was trying to rush me through the session. She would ask me every 5 minutes if I was ready to put on a condom for sex, and then roll her eyes if I said no. Overall she was nice enough, but it was more of a pro experience than the type I like. I'm glad I tried it, but decided to stick to Scandallo after my one visit to The Palms.

I had been planning to visit Casarao on a Sunday, when Scandallo is closed. However, I was pretty tired after the previous night at Scandallo, so I took that Sunday night off instead, and never made it to Casarao. I don't know how you guys do many days in a row on your trips, I was happy to have a night off after just one day, and was tempted to take more. But I couldn't help myself from going to Scandallo every day after that. One difference at Scandallo from other places I've visited is that it's active enough in the daytime. They open at noon, there are certainly fewer girls at night but also far fewer men. So, you can have a good time there even around midday / early afternoon, where the girl / guy ratio seems pretty high and the girls are eager for any business.

Restaurants: All kinds of restaurants in SP, and I if I were to go again I would explore more of them. American credit cards were fine at all of them, English menus weren't common so I used the Google Translate app a lot. I tried Japanese, Italian, Indian, Lebanese. All were good. I think the best place I went was a Lebanese place called Saj, where the food was great and the watermelon / ginger caipirinha was one of the best cocktails I've ever had.

The girls:

There were all kinds of girls at Scandallo, nearly all attractive to me, and some even looked like models. I spent time with half-Asian, fully Asian, white, and black girls, some with a Latina look and others that looked more European. I learned after the first few sessions that I prefer girls that speak at least a little English, because it was ruining the flow to reach for a phone and take time to use a Translate app every time we wanted to say something. And this limited the number of eligible girls somewhat. Some of the girls that spoke no useful English also happened to have weird mannerisms that changed the dynamic negatively (one kept yelling "beautiful! At random times, including when I was mid-sentence). My preference for natural girls also limited the eligible pool severely, since so many girls there have implants. I still saw a few girls with implants and it was fun, but if you prefer natural and soft girls, just know that they were in the minority. I also learned over time to just tell the girls what I want ahead of time. I didn't want to get surprised by girls refusing to do things. I learned that DFK, BBBJ, and BLS were all pretty common. Nearly all girls I talked to were willing to do it, but I think it was still important to tell them and make sure. One girl I was really attracted to said no to BBBJ for instance, so it was important to know that ahead of time and we respectfully agreed that she should move on to find a different guy. FIV and rimming were less common, but still not hard to get. I didn't ask for anal, but some of the girls volunteered it. One girl even volunteered bareback after we were in a room, it's not my thing but I guess the point is that the girls are willing to do all kinds of things, and asking for what I wanted didn't seem to shock or turn off any of them. A highlight was one girl that masturbated while I watched, and then started squirting. That was fun to see, and she hadn't said anything about it ahead of time so it was an exciting surprise. So, I guess when you meet a girl at Scandallo anything can happen. Rates I paid for the girls ranged from 2500/ hour and 5000 for the full night when at the start of my trip, to 1200/ hour and 2500 for the night by the end of the trip (plus a 500 BRL fee to the club for taking the girl away for the night). I know I paid high overall, but did better over time. And the girls were not churning rooms repeatedly like at European clubs, so I think the advice from other guys here is right: have an idea of a reasonable rate and stick to it, and the girls will probably come around. Still, easier said than done when you're new to the place and excited to get to a room.

Locations for overnight: I mostly stayed at the room in Scandallo, and sometimes added an hour with a girl that I was already with. They have guys in the hallway that will bring you whatever you want from the bar, extra towels, and anything else. That was a cool service that I haven't seen at Globe, and I made sure to tip them each time I left the room. I liked having everything contained in the club, but I did take a couple opportunities to go offsite with girls that I liked:

My hotel: I took a girl all night to my room at the Renaissance, we ordered room service and spent the night together, and it was a great experience. Only downsides were that she was pretty loud, and there were times where I felt like I needed to cover her mouth to keep people in the neighboring rooms from complaining. She was also a little hard to get rid of. It wasn't an ugly experience in the morning, just that she was so relaxed that she wanted to hang out and talk for a long time, when it would have been easier to wrap up if I had an excuse of being on a clock with a room.

Love Motel: On the first night I asked the girl at Scandallo to recommend a love motel because I had read about them here and wanted to try them. She recommended Lush, we took an uber for less than 10 minutes, and got a room that had a private pool and hot tub in it. And it was awesome. It was very private, we could make as much noise as we wanted, we could call down to the staff for drinks and they would deliver them to a cabinet connected to the room, so that we could retrieve them without us or the staff seeing each other. I think I paid a couple hundred USD for the full night for our room (by credit card), which seemed a good enough value, so I'd probably stick to love motels when taking a girl all night in the future. Rates were lower for more basic rooms. Only thing to call out here was then when it was time to leave, the girl that I was with was very particular that we should not go outside of the motel to wait for our Uber because it would be too dangerous. She made sure to have the motel open their front gate for the Uber to come inside the property, and she did the same with hers. I didn't see any signs of violence or crime around SP, but I guess that's different by area and maybe time of day, so it was good to have a girl look out for those kinds of things.

Things I didn't expect or see mentioned before, so I'm sharing them here:

ATMs: I had a lot of trouble getting cash using my US ATM cards. I tried at least 5 different banks (including Bradesco and Banco do Brasil, and I went to Citi but it was a corporate office with no ATM) - all with no luck. This is the first country I've been to where my ATM cards from major US banks don't work. Ultimately I ended up getting some cash at the ATM in the Renaissance. It's in the floor below the ground floor, but there was an egregious mark-up on the exchange rate, and if I didn't accept the exchange rate then the ATM would charge at 15% (fee. I ended up just paying the fee for some cash, and using my credit cards much more than I had expected. This included using my credit cards at Scandallo, both for the rooms & food / drink (where they processed my credit card like normal), and to pay for some of the girls' time (where they charged an extra 10% to pay by card). I read here that some of you have called out ATM issues, but it sounded like major banks worked for you. Unfortunately that didn't work for me. I guess in the future I'll just take more BRL with me. There's still a charge for that from my US banks, but it's much less than what the fees were like to get BRL in SP. Or, I suppose I'll take USD and exchange for BRL at one of the exchange places recommended here.

Anonymity: This was much more of a problem in SP than in other places I've been. For starters, they required ID to check into Scandallo. I showed a copy of my passport, and then they documented the details in their system. When I checked out each day, the receipt had my name printed on it. A few times they also asked me for my real name when I checked out, I guess to verify I'm the right person associated with the in-house card that I handed them, to close out the charges on my tab. After you pay your final charges they hand you an exit ticket to hand to the guard at exit to confirm that you've paid your bill before he lets you out, and that exit ticket also had my name on it. Sometimes the guard at the exit would also ask for my name to verify against the exit ticket. In all these cases they would ask right in front of the girl that I was with. All this in addition to using credit cards for so many of the charges, created more of a paper trail than I would have liked. So, you all should know that if these are non-starters for you.

Overall I made some newbie mistakes, had a couple minor complications, but had a great time. I'm thinking of going again toward the end of the year, between Christmas and new year. I expect it'll be a lot quieter, but hopefully still a good time. The only thing keeping me from going to SP more often is that it's far from some other places that I would need to go anyway, unlike Europe, where I can add on time in London or Zurich more easily to my work trips. I'd highly recommend giving SP a try. Thanks again to this group (especially SocratesNY) for your help to make this a great trip.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3039649]Uber remembers all these addresses in Uber cache and brings them up at the most inappropriate times or sends stupid message "hey you went to Secrets motel 1 am yesterday, there are five Uber drivers nearby ready to take you to Secrets motel again in five minutes. ". I setup two seperate uber accounts with local phones number and two different email address. Uber make it easy to switch between profiles to keep the love motels profile not available to prying jealous eyes kkk. [/QUOTE]I highly recommend getting the 99 ride app when in Brazil. Registration with my Brazil sim was simple and anonymous; it assigned me some random fictitious name, which I thought was amusing. Fortunately it was a male name, so I never bothered changing it. I just had to remember this name when entering the vehicles and ensure I had enough small bills to pay in cash without expecting change. I typically gave a small tip by rounding up to the nearest 5 are. I used 99 in multiple cities and it was a great alternative to Uber. On average the pricing was similar, but when 99 was cheaper I would generally use it. It's also good for privacy, if you use Uber at home and don't want other prying eyes seeing all the clubs and clinicas you visited. As mentioned, Uber saves all ride history and appears to no longer allow hiding of past rides. With 99 you don't worry about any of this and just delete the app when leaving Brazil. I returned home with a clean Uber ride history and saved around 100-150 are as well.

[QUOTE=NF4591;3039815][B]I've just returned from my first time in Sao Paulo, and I had a great time. Thanks to this group for reporting back your experiences here, it was good guidance for my trip and shows it's worth reading the forums to make for a good first-time trip[/B]. Also special thanks to SocratesNY and your friends for showing me around Scandallo and introducing me to a couple girls so that I wasn't as much of a sitting duck and obvious newbie on my first visit. I still made some Newbie mistakes, see below, but that's ok. Sharing a few highlights and lessons learned, to help future travelers:


[B]Overall I made some newbie mistakes, had a couple minor complications, but had a great time[/B]. I'm thinking of going again toward the end of the year, between Christmas and new year. I expect it'll be a lot quieter, but hopefully still a good time. The only thing keeping me from going to SP more often is that it's far from some other places that I would need to go anyway, unlike Europe, where I can add on time in London or Zurich more easily to my work trips. I'd highly recommend giving SP a try. Thanks again to this group (especially SocratesNY) for your help to make this a great trip.[/QUOTE]Good report, looks like you had a great time. Look forward to your next adventures.

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3039657][b]I am SP now and noticed many apts now advertising no guest rules.[u] Even the one that I have stayed few months ago changed their policy on the guests.[/u][/b]

Think Moema apts are more flexible than other high end neighborhoods like Villa Olimpia.

[B]Guess just make sure to ask the host before booking the apt[/B].[/QUOTE]Absolutely ask the Host before booking. (click/read link below)

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2204-Sao-Paulo-Reports&p=2897512&viewfull=1#post2897512[/URL]

[QUOTE=Esten;3039822]I highly recommend getting the 99 ride app when in Brazil. Registration with my Brazil sim was simple and anonymous; it assigned me some random fictitious name, which I thought was amusing. Fortunately it was a male name, so I never bothered changing it. I just had to remember this name when entering the vehicles and ensure I had enough small bills to pay in cash without expecting change. I typically gave a small tip by rounding up to the nearest 5 are. I used 99 in multiple cities and it was a great alternative to Uber. On average the pricing was similar, but when 99 was cheaper I would generally use it. It's also good for privacy, if you use Uber at home and don't want other prying eyes seeing all the clubs and clinicas you visited. As mentioned, Uber saves all ride history and appears to no longer allow hiding of past rides. With 99 you don't worry about any of this and just delete the app when leaving Brazil. I returned home with a clean Uber ride history and saved around 100-150 are as well.[/QUOTE]Thank you! I will try this.

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3039657]I am SP now and noticed many apts now advertising no guest rules. Even the one that I have stayed few months ago changed their policy on the guests.

Think Moema apts are more flexible than other high end neighborhoods like Villa Olimpia.

Guess just make sure to ask the host before booking the apt.[/QUOTE]Maybe it is time to create a blacklist of buildings with strict "no guests" policies.

I am in SP now and yesterday was in Casarao. They added big area downstairs with working AC units and little bit more light.

They start looking as a respectable nightclub.

If they renovate next door hotel, it will be a next level.

[QUOTE=Guest19;3039994]I am in SP now and yesterday was in Casarao. They added big area downstairs with working AC units and little bit more light. They start looking as a respectable nightclub. If they renovate next door hotel, it will be a next level.[/QUOTE]If there was a fire in there how would the people downstairs get out? Is there a downstairs exit? I happen to not have noticed any such exit during my visits to Casarao.

[QUOTE=Guest19;3039994]I am in SP now and yesterday was in Casarao. They added big area downstairs with working AC units and little bit more light.

They start looking as a respectable nightclub.

If they renovate next door hotel, it will be a next level.[/QUOTE]I was there on both Wednesday and Thursday nights. They took down all the walls around the old smoking area in the middle on Thursday and it is now much a more open area downstairs. It didn't seem as crowded, even though it was quite busy on both nights.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3039995]If there was a fire in there how would the people downstairs get out? Is there a downstairs exit? I happen to not have noticed any such exit during my visits to Casarao.[/QUOTE]There is a female fire inspector standing near the inner entrance doors of casarao. Inspetora do Corpo de Bombeiros ou Bombeira the Vistoria. After getting the casarao card at the entrance she stands on the right side in her uniform. She goes about inspection every couple of hours or so. Her pad records the time and dates when she is doing her rounds. You can ask her about all of that cause in a panic those patrons in the lower bar don't know where to go except the two exit doors upfront or trapped in bathroom. There is another hallway behind the bar.
They could stop letting in so many tucking guys after midnight. Sometimes it looks like a a gay bar with some many effing guys standing around

[QUOTE=NF4591;3039815] The first one was super cute and spoke English, and she convinced me to take her and her friend all night. At 5 k BRL each! I had talked them down from 6 k per girl, but I know now that this was a newbie rate. When I paid at the front desk and the girls told the reception woman the rate, she gave a look to the girls, like 'good job getting this guy to pay that much'. I knew I was overpaying, but it was the newbie premium I guess, and I got better over time.[/QUOTE]Nice report but 5 k each, Mannnn!

Have been a huge fan of this place Abbbora for years and visited this place pretty much everyday when I am in SP.

When I stopped by Wednesday, didn't see anyone that I liked. Maybe my last trip was only two months ago, so saw the many same girls.

So next day, as soon as I walked in, front desk lady (old fat one with glasses) told me all the girls are same and she is not going to show me any girls and kick me out.

I have been a loyal customer at this place and just didn't understand why she was so rude.

BTW, Miruna is remodeling their rooms so there might be some wait time if you pick a girl there.

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3040012]So next day, as soon as I walked in, front desk lady (old fat one with glasses) told me all the girls are same and she is not going to show me any girls and kick me out.

I have been a loyal customer at this place and just didn't understand why she was so rude.[/QUOTE]There is a weird attitude of the reception lady at Abbobora, they have a stick up their behind. I was there and I roomed with 1 girl and then wanted a second girl. She kicked me out too saying it's all the same girls. They don't want the business or are just annoyed with non-Porto tourists.

I only go to Abbbora when other places fall short. I've heard some shouting matches BTW GPS and receptionists on several visits. There is definitely something wrong with their management.

Generally speaking, you can tell when receptionists trying to provide good service so the clinics make money vs hardly doing their job. Same thing with the weekday receptionist in Prime. She is lazy af, but the Sunday blonde lady is a real charm.

I reported many times in the past that their attitude in Abbbora is a real problem, and I am not a demanding costumer at all. Here is what I said a few weeks ago:

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3035911]Then I went to Abbobora. Still shitty attitude but the talent level is about one notch higher than other 2 places on a Tues afternoon. Went with Alona (real blonde) for 1 HR, great service, 400 R.[/QUOTE]I now have Alona's whatsapp so I can schedule her for private dates whenever I wish. I had her for an entire day and half for just $are 1.500. Not bad right?

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3040012]Have been a huge fan of this place Abbbora for years and visited this place pretty much everyday when I am in SP.

When I stopped by Wednesday, didn't see anyone that I liked. Maybe my last trip was only two months ago, so saw the many same girls.

So next day, as soon as I walked in, front desk lady (old fat one with glasses) told me all the girls are same and she is not going to show me any girls and kick me out.

I have been a loyal customer at this place and just didn't understand why she was so rude.

BTW, Miruna is remodeling their rooms so there might be some wait time if you pick a girl there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3040012]
So next day, as soon as I walked in, front desk lady (old fat one with glasses) told me all the girls are same and she is not going to show me any girls and kick me out.

I have been a loyal customer at this place and just didn't understand why she was so rude.
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[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3040091]There is a weird attitude of the reception lady at Abbobora, they have a stick up their behind. I was there and I roomed with 1 girl and then wanted a second girl. She kicked me out too saying it's all the same girls. They don't want the business or are just annoyed with non-Porto tourists.[/QUOTE]And yet some accept such behavior and go there over and over again 😲.

I never got kicked out, but didn't like the way sher demeanor changes when I don't select a girl. That was enough for me to avoid that place. There are plenty of other places what are very welcoming even you don't pick a girl.

I will pile on and agree the receptionist at Abbobora can be a real ballbuster. I stopped in midweek recently to check the lineup, which BTW was 17 deep and impressive. But I was just doing recon for a future visit, so let the receptionist know I'd be back. She sneered at me "so olhando, huh?" I get it, they don't want people coming in all the time just to look. I did in fact come back a few days later on a Saturday with the intention to see someone, but there were only 3 girls then and they were all busy. If I was refused a lineup or suspected it might happen, I'd consider asking the receptionist to let me wait until the next customer comes in, or even tag along behind the next customer or group going in. A pain but it's a small hoop I'd jump through at this place because the roster is one of the best. Getting kicked out though is another thing. If this is happening it needs to get back to the girls so they know they are losing business.

[QUOTE=NF4591;3039815]I've just returned from my first time in Sao Paulo, and I had a great time. Thanks to this group for reporting back your experiences here, it was good guidance for my trip and shows it's worth reading the forums to make for a good first-time trip. Also special thanks to SocratesNY and your friends for showing me around Scandallo and introducing me to a couple girls so that I wasn't as much of a sitting duck and obvious newbie on my first visit. I still made some Newbie mistakes, see below, but that's ok. Sharing a few highlights and lessons learned, to help future travelers:

Hotel: I stayed at the Renaissance because of the guidance from this group, and it worked out great. The neighborhood (Jardins) was active and safe, with plenty of restaurants where I was able to get by on English and the Google Translate app, and my american credit cards worked just fine. The hotel was really good if you have status with Marriott, because they have a pretty nice lounge with breakfast (including eggs to order), where they also serve happy hour and soft drinks and filtered water available all day. I was also upgraded to one of the suites. And I got a feeling they have lots of them and upgrades aren't so hard. So that was a nice touch too. I brought a girl back one night around 11 pm and was expecting to need to register her, but we walked through the lobby and past reception to the elevators without any hassles. I hear from you guys that maybe it's good to register the girl, but in this case I was just glad to get through unnoticed, the girl came and went without issue, so it worked out fine..[/QUOTE]Your ruining the market price by over paying at bare minimum 2.5 x.

I booked my first trip to Brazil including a visit to Sao Paulo in April and I'm eager to visit the different clinicas that are mentioned here. Seems many of them are in Moema. Do you guys think that area is a safe place to stay in and walkable from clinica to clinica?

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3040262]I booked my first trip to Brazil including a visit to Sao Paulo in April and I'm eager to visit the different clinicas that are mentioned here. Seems many of them are in Moema. Do you guys think that area is a safe place to stay in and walkable from clinica to clinica?[/QUOTE]Yes. It is one of the safest areas in SP. I have walked alone even after midnight without any issues.

I usually stay in the area because of easy access to cliicas and very convenient for visiting boetes.

Wierd request here; do any of you know of a grocery store or market that caters to USA expats? A friend that moved here is looking for some items not normally available in Brasil stores.

Thanks!

I am heading back to SP again in a few days and will be staying at a new hotel this time. I will be at the Pullman Ibirapuera. What is this area like? Is it safe to walk around alone? I'm assuming not alone at night, just like most of SP. I see that Tangara is only a 15 min walk. Is this a relatively safe trek to make? Or should I be looking at Ubers for that?

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3040272]Yes. It is one of the safest areas in SP. I have walked alone even after midnight without any issues.

I usually stay in the area because of easy access to cliicas and very convenient for visiting boetes.[/QUOTE]Do you usually stay in hotels in Moema or in Airbnbs?

I've seen a bunch of posts recommending doing your layover at Scandallo if you have a night or early flight out of São Paulo. Just wondering, does anyone know if Scandallo has a place where you can store your luggage?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3040326]Do you usually stay in hotels in Moema or in Airbnbs?[/QUOTE]Highly recommend to read the Sao-Paulo-Hotels-and-List section. Good useful info about hotels, Airbnb, apartments etc.

Moema is in the direct flight path of CGH airport. Those Jetplanes start at 0600 am sharp.

[QUOTE=Delarian;3040304]I am heading back to SP again in a few days and will be staying at a new hotel this time. I will be at the Pullman Ibirapuera. What is this area like? Is it safe to walk around alone? I'm assuming not alone at night, just like most of SP. I see that Tangara is only a 15 min walk. Is this a relatively safe trek to make? Or should I be looking at Ubers for that?[/QUOTE]I stayed there a few years ago. I don't recommend it just because it's a boring area. But it felt safe to walk daytime. I walked to Tangara and it was fine. Def don't recommend walking anywhere at night.

[QUOTE=MickLasense;3040333]I've seen a bunch of posts recommending doing your layover at Scandallo if you have a night or early flight out of So Paulo. Just wondering, does anyone know if Scandallo has a place where you can store your luggage?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yes. It has full luggage storage just like a hotel. Very professional. A lot of flights out are at 10 PM or so so you can spend your day there after you checkout and then catch your flight. Word of warning tho — leave plenty of time to get to airport. Traffic is bad even at night. And if it rains you are fucked. Almost missed my flight last time. Don't think you can squeeze by. You will be sorry.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3040326]Do you usually stay in hotels in Moema or in Airbnbs?[/QUOTE]Hotels. They are lot more convenient for brining girls than Airbnbs.

I have stayed in Airbnbs couple of times in the past. Most of the Airbnbs are in big buildings with security and it is a hassle bringing girls, especially a different girl every day, because most expect you to pre-register the guest, so the guest details are in their system.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3040425]Hotels. They are lot more convenient for brining girls than Airbnbs.

I have stayed in Airbnbs couple of times in the past. Most of the Airbnbs are in big buildings with security and it is a hassle bringing girls, especially a different girl every day, because most expect you to pre-register the guest, so the guest details are in their system.[/QUOTE]L is right that hotels are going to be a lot easier to take a girl than an Airbnb. The airbnbs are very hit and miss and prob more miss than hit for girl friendliness.

On hotels fwiw I've found the Mercure chain to be uniformly girl friendly. They don't even make you register. Just rock on up to the room. And Windsor is notably a pain in the ass.

Looks like for my first Brazil trip, I'm going to find myself arriving in SP on the Easter Sunday in April (I'm in Rio and Iguazu Falls before that). Is this Sunday and Monday going to be a complete bust because of Easter? I'll still have Tuesday and most of the daytime on Wednesday before I fly out a 9:45 pm that night. Given this schedule, what would you SP vets suggest for strategy between the boates and clinicas during the time I'm there?

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3040454]Looks like for my first Brazil trip, I'm going to find myself arriving in SP on the Easter Sunday in April (I'm in Rio and Iguazu Falls before that). Is this Sunday and Monday going to be a complete bust because of Easter? I'll still have Tuesday and most of the daytime on Wednesday before I fly out a 9:45 pm that night. Given this schedule, what would you SP vets suggest for strategy between the boates and clinicas during the time I'm there?[/QUOTE]Know that Sunday is the big day off for most girls. The king of the Boates Scandalo is NOT open Sunday. Casarao is open Sunday, though as previously discussed doesn't really start to rock until midnight. By 1 AM, to my eye, Casarao Sunday is plenty busy and crowded. Can def find a hottie. (Double check they are open Easter tho!

The other play for Sunday is Seeking Arrangement (or Brazil equivalent Meu Patricino) and have a paid date. It's a lot of work to find the right girl but I've had serious gems in both SP and Rio on Seeking.

A few CLínicas are open. Like Tangara.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3040262]I booked my first trip to Brazil including a visit to Sao Paulo in April and I'm eager to visit the different clinicas that are mentioned here. Seems many of them are in Moema. Do you guys think that area is a safe place to stay in and walkable from clinica to clinica?[/QUOTE]Both of my trips. I have stayed in this location. First time at a hotel last trip in an airbnb, a block from the metro stop.

I always felt safe walking around.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3040484]Know that Sunday is the big day off for most girls. The king of the Boates Scandalo is NOT open Sunday. Casarao is open Sunday, though as previously discussed doesn't really start to rock until midnight. By 1 AM, to my eye, Casarao Sunday is plenty busy and crowded. Can def find a hottie. (Double check they are open Easter tho!

The other play for Sunday is Seeking Arrangement (or Brazil equivalent Meu Patricino) and have a paid date. It's a lot of work to find the right girl but I've had serious gems in both SP and Rio on Seeking.

A few CLnicas are open. Like Tangara.[/QUOTE]Yankin, cousin to Tangara is also open Sunday.

[QUOTE=WonderWhy;3040286]Wierd request here; do any of you know of a grocery store or market that caters to USA expats? A friend that moved here is looking for some items not normally available in Brasil stores.

Thanks![/QUOTE]I've seen Sams Clubs in Sao Paulo. I think they have many locations. However I've never been inside one so I have no idea which products or brands they carry.

There's a Sam's club in Rio in Barra near Barra Shopping and the hospitals, they carry all the same as US Sam's but you need a card or a friend with a card, which is well worth it.

[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;3040519]I've seen Sams Clubs in Sao Paulo. I think they have many locations. However I've never been inside one so I have no idea which products or brands they carry.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;3040519]I've seen Sams Clubs in Sao Paulo. I think they have many locations. However I've never been inside one so I have no idea which products or brands they carry.[/QUOTE]Thank you! I gave him the information and he will try it. Will report if I hear anything.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3040600]There's a Sam's club in Rio in Barra near Barra Shopping and the hospitals, they carry all the same as US Sam's but you need a card or a friend with a card, which is well worth it.[/QUOTE]Thanks! I really appreciate the information.

[QUOTE=NF4591;3039815]I've just returned from my first time in Sao Paulo, and I had a great time. Thanks to this group for reporting back your experiences here, it was good guidance for my trip and shows it's worth reading the forums to make for a good first-time trip. Also special thanks to SocratesNY and your friends for showing me around Scandallo and introducing me to a couple girls so that I wasn't as much of a sitting duck and obvious newbie on my first visit. I still made some Newbie mistakes, see below, but that's ok. Sharing a few highlights and lessons learned, to help future travelers:[/QUOTE]Great report, thanks for the write-up.

On the topic of anonymity, I totally relate to the points you raised. But in my experience this is largely avoidable. One just has to be a little creative, and polite. Not too difficult. Remember, these places just need a number and name to plug into their system. I have been to pretty much all the top clubs in SP and never used a credit card and never provided my real personal info. The only place I had an issue was Casarao, and in that case I just walked.

Can anyone provide an objective comparison between Casarao and Bomboa? At Casarao, I tend to always find someone gorgeous and very eager for 5/600 in a room or 1200 overnight until noon+ the next day. My only issue with Casarao is the place doesn't really get started until after 1 am.

I seem unable to find consistent information about Bomboa apart from it being worth a visit for no other reason than it has a different pace than other clubs with information about what women expect for a room or overnight at escalated fees.

I found a really good place between the low price clinicas and high priced stuff. Roh Matos clinica does professional massage with nice finishing. There were 6 nice girls there. I have her permission to share the business information here. Mods please delete if not allowed. Roh Matos clinica. It is at are. Gen. Raposo, 118 Vila Clementino, Sao Paulo (Vila Mariana area) [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

If you search Roh Matos Sao Paulo you can find the instagram page.

Please treat them nice and mention Jim referred you.

[QUOTE=Hanzonamura;3040748]Can anyone provide an objective comparison between Casarao and Bomboa? At Casarao, I tend to always find someone gorgeous and very eager for 5/600 in a room or 1200 overnight until noon+ the next day. My only issue with Casarao is the place doesn't really get started until after 1 am.

I seem unable to find consistent information about Bomboa apart from it being worth a visit for no other reason than it has a different pace than other clubs with information about what women expect for a room or overnight at escalated fees.[/QUOTE]They are completely different experiences. Casarao is a rowdy packed bar with reasonable prices and a wide variety of clientele as a result. Sounds like you know it. It's a packed bar with a fun vibe and girls to fuck.

BomBoa is like a nice restaurant. That happens to have girls standing around ready to be fucked. It is 100%!like going to a fine dining restaurant. With side benefits. So they are nothing alike. Casarao is a standing room only place packed to the rafters. Drinks not food. BomBoa is a sit down restaurant format with excellent menu and great food. Not crowded. Not trashy. High end vibe.

That said if you want a vibe like Bomboa plus soooo much more then just go to scandallo. It's maybe 20%!more expensive and a thousand times better. Gauguin is a worthy alternative, down a notch from Scandallo but with a club vibe.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3040774]They are completely different experiences. Casarao is a rowdy packed bar with reasonable prices and a wide variety of clientele as a result. Sounds like you know it. It's a packed bar with a fun vibe and girls to fuck.

BomBoa is like a nice restaurant. That happens to have girls standing around ready to be fucked. It is 100%!like going to a fine dining restaurant. With side benefits. So they are nothing alike. Casarao is a standing room only place packed to the rafters. Drinks not food. BomBoa is a sit down restaurant format with excellent menu and great food. Not crowded. Not trashy. High end vibe.

That said if you want a vibe like Bomboa plus soooo much more then just go to scandallo. It's maybe 20%!more expensive and a thousand times better. Gauguin is a worthy alternative, down a notch from Scandallo but with a club vibe.[/QUOTE]This is a good description of Bomboa. I did not session the last time I was there, but I did have the tuna sashimi that was maybe the best I have ever had in Brazil. I would go back just for that LOL! Then go to Casarao to find an attractive, blonde, big butt branca to fuck hahaha!

Sashimi in Brazil?

My rec would be Tako sushi in SP.

And in Rio, Temekaria, across from Solarium, and in Barra on Olegario Maciel.

Had so many good post prive / clinica meals with the late well loved alto bom gosto at Tako sushi!

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/temakeria.oficial/[/URL]

Olegario maciel 373.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3040778]This is a good description of Bomboa. I did not session the last time I was there, but I did have the tuna sashimi that was maybe the best I have ever had in Brazil. I would go back just for that LOL! Then go to Casarao to find an attractive, blonde, big butt branca to fuck hahaha![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;3040778]This is a good description of Bomboa. I did not session the last time I was there, but I did have the tuna sashimi that was maybe the best I have ever had in Brazil. I would go back just for that LOL! Then go to Casarao to find an attractive, blonde, big butt branca to fuck hahaha![/QUOTE]I wouldn't mind eating there after a session but not before. So if Bomboa is like a restaurant, do we have to order food when we get there for a table or can we just mingle around, session first onsite then perhaps sit down for dinner?

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3040865]I wouldn't mind eating there after a session but not before. So if Bomboa is like a restaurant, do we have to order food when we get there for a table or can we just mingle around, session first onsite then perhaps sit down for dinner?[/QUOTE]It's up to you what you want to do. Nobody will be pressuring you to do anything. Although, if you went in there and just sat around people might look at you funny. You def don't have to session with a girl if you don't see anyone you like. You also don't have to order any food. But, I think you would be expected to at least have a drink (alcoholic or nonalcoholic). It's all very laid back, and you're in control. I found the girls at Bomboa to be pretty non-assertive too, so not a lot of pressure to even talk to anyone if you don't want to. Just go and relax and take it all in. Maybe it will prove to be a club for you. Maybe not.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3040865]I wouldn't mind eating there after a session but not before. So if Bomboa is like a restaurant, do we have to order food when we get there for a table or can we just mingle around, session first onsite then perhaps sit down for dinner?[/QUOTE]You have the freedom to eat, drink, session whenever you want. Typically there is a minimum spend / consumption requirement at these places that is equal to the entry fee. You still have to pay the entry fee even if you don't spend any in the club. So you are better off spending at least the minimum required consumption on drinks / food etc. You are not allowed to use the consumption to pay for girls or the room.

Bomboa is great. For every visit to Scandallo, I'll do two visits to Bomboa and one to another club, so on the basis of frequency it's my favorite club in town. I'll have to disagree with the comparison to a restaurant. Maybe in appearance slightly due to the tables, and maybe eating there is more common in the early evening, I have no idea. I always arrive in the 9:30-10:30 pm window and I've rarely seen people eating there. It's all drinks and girls. And often with a live band and sometimes people dancing. I would describe it as somewhere between an upscale gentlemen's lounge and a folksy Brazilian club.

[QUOTE=WonderWhy;3040767]I found a really good place between the low price clinicas and high priced stuff. Roh Matos clinica does professional massage with nice finishing. There were 6 nice girls there. I have her permission to share the business information here. Mods please delete if not allowed. Roh Matos clinica. It is at are. Gen. Raposo, 118 Vila Clementino, Sao Paulo (Vila Mariana area) [/QUOTE]Thank you will add it to my list. Places with professional massage plus options can be hard to find.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3040774]They are completely different experiences. Casarao is a rowdy packed bar with reasonable prices and a wide variety of clientele as a result. Sounds like you know it. It's a packed bar with a fun vibe and girls to fuck.

BomBoa is like a nice restaurant. That happens to have girls standing around ready to be fucked. It is 100%!like going to a fine dining restaurant. With side benefits. So they are nothing alike. Casarao is a standing room only place packed to the rafters. Drinks not food. BomBoa is a sit down restaurant format with excellent menu and great food. Not crowded. Not trashy. High end vibe.

That said if you want a vibe like Bomboa plus soooo much more then just go to scandallo. It's maybe 20%!more expensive and a thousand times better. Gauguin is a worthy alternative, down a notch from Scandallo but with a club vibe.[/QUOTE]100%, good synopsis. Perhaps someone can give the latest rundown on entry pricing?

I'the also note that I've observed fluidity in girls between Bomboa-Gauguin-Casarao. Not as much with Scandallo given the garota attendance requirement (in my experience), but other gents have noted there too.

[QUOTE=WonderWhy;3040767]I found a really good place between the low price clinicas and high priced stuff. Roh Matos clinica does professional massage with nice finishing. There were 6 nice girls there. I have her permission to share the business information here. Mods please delete if not allowed. Roh Matos clinica. It is at are. Gen. Raposo, 118 Vila Clementino, Sao Paulo (Vila Mariana area)

If you search Roh Matos Sao Paulo you can find the instagram page.

Please treat them nice and mention Jim referred you.[/QUOTE]Do they offer personalized finish, aka full service, or just a HJ? Also, what's the damage?

Thanks for the intel!

What is good clinica or anything during the day to kill time?

Wow. Finally got the email confirmation to work after a year. And I feel like Charlie in Willy Wonka and I got a fucking golden ticket! Did quite a bit of reading on the Panama forums last year before my trip, and have done so this year for So Paulo. Flying in on the 23rd of December until most likely the 30th and will fly to Rio for new years. Haven't been this far south before but excited. Reports to follow after the trip! I heard that it can be a little quite this time of the year but we'll give it a fair shake!

[QUOTE=Degenerate24;3041148]What is good clinica or anything during the day to kill time?[/QUOTE]Tangara has a bar downstairs and makes some food.

[QUOTE=Degenerate24;3041148]What is good clinica or anything during the day to kill time?[/QUOTE]Check for clinicas on gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL].

Sorry guys, I have to post here on ISG since I've been unable to access Argentina Private while here in Buenos Aires. I've tried accessing AP with and without a VPN, on both my phone (cell network) and hotel WiFi. No joy either way. It seems it's blocked by the government?

I'm hoping that either someone knows how to connect with AP from BA or someone can recommend one or two decent daytime action places. I know the clubs were shut down in 2013 but there has to be massage places like those in Sao Paulo. There has to be. Unless there's no horny guys here.

Lastly, does Jackson still own this forum and AP's? Is he still in BA? I had dinner with him a few times in the early 2000's but maybe he has sold the site. Idk.

[QUOTE=ChicaChaser;3041662]Sorry guys, I have to post here on ISG since I've been unable to access Argentina Private while here in Buenos Aires. [/QUOTE]Hey Chica Chaser- I'm not sure but I know AP has been inaccessible for a few months and had been pretty quiet for several years. I haven't been in touch with anyone associated with the site for a long time. I hope they find a way to bring it back or else add to this board. The club options in BA are still slim but the indie scene is alive and well. Your best bet is to check the local foro [URL]foroescortsar.com[/URL] . I've been on there for ages and the local punters are still very active with their reviews and sharing of "material" (hehe). Also still many ad websites like [URL]bairesgirls.net[/URL], [URL]areamasajes.com[/URL], [URL]argentinamasajes.com.ar[/URL] and [URL]argentinaxp.com[/URL]. Feel free to PM me. Good luck!

[QUOTE=Esten;3041692]Hey Chica Chaser... ... Good luck![/QUOTE]Thanks Esten, I'll definitely be checking out that forum. All I need is one decent daytime place and that'll tide me over until I can get back to Sao Paulo.

Looking into a few hotels, narrowed down to Jardim / Itaim Bibi areas. Which one would you guys recommend, perhaps will split between two during my stay. I read up on these and they seem to be, or were guest friendly. Room service?

- Grand Mercure Itaim.

- Renaissance São Paulo.

- Melia Jardim.

- Fasano.

- Hotel Unique.

Also, applied for the eVisa and got it in less than 48 hours and that's with having to redo the photo. I am a US citizen. So FYI they move pretty quickly.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3040944]100%, good synopsis. Perhaps someone can give the latest rundown on entry pricing?

I'the also note that I've observed fluidity in girls between Bomboa-Gauguin-Casarao. Not as much with Scandallo given the garota attendance requirement (in my experience), but other gents have noted there too.[/QUOTE]Casarao: R60 of entry and R50 of room charge for 30 min or R100 for 1 hour (if you go to the room).

Bomboa: R350 of entry and R210 of room for 1 hour (10% tax added for these items and drinks, as I remember).

Bomboa prices are a year old so not sure if it is increased now.

[QUOTE=Sp1000;3042198]Bomboa: R350 of entry and R210 of room for 1 hour (10% tax added for these items and drinks, as I remember).

Bomboa prices are a year old so not sure if it is increased now.[/QUOTE]To take a girl at Bomboa the minimum is now 670 (400 entry / consumption + 210 room + tax). Plus the girl's fee, typically 800.

Curious, how many of your women go out of their way to convince you your dick is the largest they've had. In the after moment, using their fingers to illustrate length and so on. I'm convinced it's part of their ego stroking seduction. That is, given their profession, this is clearly far fetched.

[QUOTE=Jsaxxon1221;3042086]Looking into a few hotels, narrowed down to Jardim / Itaim Bibi areas. Which one would you guys recommend, perhaps will split between two during my stay. I read up on these and they seem to be, or were guest friendly. Room service?

- Grand Mercure Itaim. - Renaissance So Paulo. - Melia Jardim. - Fasano. - Hotel Unique.[/QUOTE]Of all the hotels you mentioned, I recommend the Fasano Hotel in either Jardim or Itaim Bibi if money is no object and you don't mind spending $500+/ night on a room. It is a true 5 star hotel and their restaurant is outstanding. I stayed at the Fasano Ipanema in 2021 during covid for $125/ night and the hotel was great and very GF.

The Renaissance Hotel is a great hotel choice as well. I stay there on Marriott hotel points and Chase free voucher nights for a week or so nearly every trip. I also like to stay ant the Intercontinental and the Hyatt free on hotel points and voucher nights as well. Despite its out of the way location, the Hyatt is probably my favorite SP 5 star hotel.

And when I run out of hotel points and vouchers ect, I like to stay at friendly 4-star hotels like the Grand Mercure Itaim Bibi or the Marriott Executive Apartment Hotel, or the Gran Estanplaza Berrini.

[QUOTE=Sp1000;3042198]Casarao: R60 of entry and R50 of room charge for 30 min or R100 for 1 hour (if you go to the room).

Bomboa: R350 of entry and R210 of room for 1 hour (10% tax added for these items and drinks, as I remember).

Bomboa prices are a year old so not sure if it is increased now.[/QUOTE]That's a huge difference between these two and I imagine Scandallo is even higher despite a slight discount before 7 pm. Now the question for me is whether the quality of girls really varies among these three venues even if Scandallo being a larger venue will have higher numbers of girls.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3042301]That's a huge difference between these two and I imagine Scandallo is even higher despite a slight discount before 7 pm. Now the question for me is whether the quality of girls really varies among these three venues even if Scandallo being a larger venue will have higher numbers of girls.[/QUOTE]The only way to know is to go and experience it for yourself. Don't let the writings and preferences of others decide for you! I mean, if you're going all the way down there, why not take the time to visit as many places as you can at least once, especially if it's your first trip? For me, if I'm picking one from among these 3, then it's going to be Scandallo. Casarao would be second. Then Bomboa. And my preference isn't just about the girls, but also about the environment where you find those girls. You can find attractive girls at all three. But what's the overall experience going to be like (to include cost of course)? These are the things to think about. But in the end, it's best to go and experience and decide what works best for you, your own dick, and your wallet. There's no substitute for one's own personal experience!

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3042301]That's a huge difference between these two and I imagine Scandallo is even higher despite a slight discount before 7 pm. Now the question for me is whether the quality of girls really varies among these three venues even if Scandallo being a larger venue will have higher numbers of girls.[/QUOTE]The only way to answer your question is for you to go to these 3 bordellos and compare the quality differences to determine for yourself if Scan's higher total cost is worth it or not. There is a small degree of overlap. I have boom boomed the same girl in Bomboa and Scandallo a couple of times, and the same girl in Havanas and Scandallo once.

Here is how I would describe the comparison: Scandallo is premiere, #1 in terms of quality and quantity, Bomboa is #2 with a lot less girls to choose from and what looks to me like an older average age of their girls. Both places think of themselves as high class and they are. Casarao is different. A lot of girls show up there every night after midnight and there is a wider cross section of SP talent than at the other places. It is essentially a meat market and priced accordingly. And there is nothing wrong with that. KKK.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3042300]Of all the hotels you mentioned, I recommend the Fasano Hotel in either Jardim or Itaim Bibi if money is no object and you don't mind spending $500+/ night on a room. It is a true 5 star hotel and their restaurant is outstanding. I stayed at the Fasano Ipanema in 2021 during covid for $125/ night and the hotel was great and very GF.

The Renaissance Hotel is a great hotel choice as well. I stay there on Marriott hotel points and Chase free voucher nights for a week or so nearly every trip. I also like to stay ant the Intercontinental and the Hyatt free on hotel points and voucher nights as well. Despite its out of the way location, the Hyatt is probably my favorite SP 5 star hotel.

And when I run out of hotel points and vouchers ect, I like to stay at friendly 4-star hotels like the Grand Mercure Itaim Bibi or the Marriott Executive Apartment Hotel, or the Gran Estanplaza Berrini.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Fasano it is then, I have Amex points to use up and because it is in their fine hotels / resorts collection I get good freebies! Touchdown in a week, I've started some convos on SA, I don't know if they'll get anywhere but it keeps me entertained until I'm there!

I was recently in Sao Paulo for 12 days.

Accommodations: The first 7 days I stayed in a Moema airbnb, the last 5 at the W Sao Paulo in Vila Olimpia.

Clinicas: I only went to Abbobora this time around. 150r for room and 250r to the girl. BBBJ was given by 3 of 4 that I sessioned with. There were usually 12-15 girls during the week and 8-12 on Saturday. I was told 30 girls in total work there, with some girls just working on Fri / Sat. I saw 3-4 girls that had been there for at least 18 months (seen before) and a handful of brand new.

Seeking / Meu Patricinio (MP): My experience was mixed to bad given the effort that I put into it in preceding 3-4 weeks. For MP you will also need to know conversational Portuguese. I'd say 50% of the girls straight up P4 P, 30% in need of $$ for rent or tuition, 20% clueless. Girls would generally ask 800-2500r to meet. I ended up meeting 4 girls with costs ranging 800r to 1200r for 2 hours. 1 girl was a catfish and I sent home immediately. Also of note, some girls don't live in Sao Paulo, but will say they do with the expectation you'll fly them in (nuts!)

Favoritas: Had 2 of my regulars. One still works PT at Abbobora and another I met on Bumble of all places. Costs 500-700r for 3 hours and I usually tipped 50-100r for Uber. On one of my last nights the Bumble favorita brought a blonde friend for a threesome. Total cost 1600r.

Clubs / Boates.

Casarao: Went 2 x. I think the entry was 60-75 r, but I can't recall. The downstairs has been built out and looking quite nice. Usually 70-100 girls with them asking 300-400ST and 700-800 LT. I tried to negotiate, but girls were unwilling for me. A friend said that I look too gringo and dress too nice. I.e. I'm a mark LOL. With the new downstairs the quality seems to have gone up, but also a little more bitchy attitude.

Scandallo: Went 2 x on a Wednesday and Thursday. I paid the 700r entry both times. Girls would start at 1500-2000, but could be had for 1000-1200r. I was able to negotiate better here. I believe 125-175 girls, but it's hard to keep track. Better ratio of girls to guys, more consistently attractive girls, and great service from waiters. Rooms 340 r, drinks 45-100 r, bottles 800r.

Gauguin: Went 3 x from Tue to Fri. Entry was all over the map. 120 all consumable, 250 with 150 consumable, and I think 190 all consumable once. Girls start at 1200-1500, but could be had for 800-1000r, room was ~200r. Need to negotiate BBBJ prior, but all agreed if asked. Two other ISGers were getting LT for 1200r.

Bomboa: Went 3 x. Entry the first two times was 400r all consumable, but the last night they told me they now have an entry fee (was 98 r). Even Marco (head guy) said it was new. Perhaps someone else can confirm? There were 30-50 girls depending on the night and was told that 75-80 girls work there overall. I'd try to arrive by 9:30/10 pm before girls scooped up. Drinks mostly 40-90r. Girls would start at 1000-1200r and settle on 700-900r. No problem with BBBJ. Rooms 210-240 I believe.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3042337]I was recently in Sao Paulo for 12 days.

Clubs / Boates.

Scandallo: Went 2 x on a Wednesday and Thursday. I paid the 700r entry both times. Girls would start at 1500-2000, but could be had for 1000-1200r. I was able to negotiate better here. I believe 125-175 girls, but it's hard to keep track. Better ratio of girls to guys, more consistently attractive girls, and great service from waiters. Rooms 340 r, drinks 45-100 r, bottles 800r.

Bomboa: Went 3 x. Entry the first two times was 400r all consumable, but the last night they told me they now have an entry fee (was 98 r). Even Marco (head guy) said it was new. Perhaps someone else can confirm? There were 30-50 girls depending on the night and was told that 75-80 girls work there overall. I'd try to arrive by 9:30/10 pm before girls scooped up. Drinks mostly 40-90r. Girls would start at 1000-1200r and settle on 700-900r. No problem with BBBJ. Rooms 210-240 I believe.[/QUOTE]Is Scandallo now 700 R entry? Regardless of entry time?

[QUOTE=Combo;3042430]Is Scandallo now 700 R entry? Regardless of entry time?[/QUOTE]No he was unlucky to hit a band each night I guess. If thy have someone famous it's 700. Otherwise it's 400. And even on a 700 night if you leave before 11 they rebate it back. It's basically like a 300 band cover.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3042435]No he was unlucky to hit a band each night I guess. If thy have someone famous it's 700. Otherwise it's 400. And even on a 700 night if you leave before 11 they rebate it back. It's basically like a 300 band cover.[/QUOTE]Just confirmed with Scandallo that on a regular night it's 400 real before 7 PM, fully consumable. After 7 PM its's 600 real, 400 consumable. Didn't ask about the rebate on band nights but that may be because you are leaving before the band starts.

Hi, I'll go next month to Sao Paulo and Rio for the first time. Could you tell me what's the normal price to fuck sexy ladies between 18 to 25 ? And where do you meet them? Online? Or in nightclubs? And do you know if girls accept easily bareback in Brazil? Even for extra money? I always go Colombia and I always fuck bareback very easily. So I want to know if it's same in Brazil or not?

Totally new to this this thread and admit to haven't read through carefully yet. I've long had a thing for japanese girls but the scene in Japan seems too difficult for foreigners. I'm egyptian born and live in uk. I understand sao paulo has the largest japanese community outside of Japan. Therefore are true 100 percent japanese girls available as escorts here? Or maybe half japanese half brazilian girls. My preference would be 100 percent japanese. This is a shot in the dark not quite knowing what answers I will get here. If japanese girls are available in sao paulo I would make the effort to travel here as it might be my only chance of getting japanese girls. Any info on ages if available would be great and where to find them agencies or indepedents or clubs or massages etc. If anyone needs info on german FKK's please do message me. Thanks starletvoyager.

[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;3042556]Totally new to this this thread and admit to haven't read through carefully yet. I've long had a thing for japanese girls but the scene in Japan seems too difficult for foreigners. I'm egyptian born and live in uk. I understand sao paulo has the largest japanese community outside of Japan. Therefore are true 100 percent japanese girls available as escorts here? Or maybe half japanese half brazilian girls. My preference would be 100 percent japanese. This is a shot in the dark not quite knowing what answers I will get here. If japanese girls are available in sao paulo I would make the effort to travel here as it might be my only chance of getting japanese girls. Any info on ages if available would be great and where to find them agencies or indepedents or clubs or massages etc. If anyone needs info on german FKK's please do message me. Thanks starletvoyager.[/QUOTE]I have met a few Japanese Brazilian girls in Sampa, but not a lot. Not enough to fly all the way there just for that. Would not be worth it. I actually think you would be better off going to Japan itself for "real" Japanese girls. I hope to have a trip to Nippon myself in the future, and I have been doing my research. Just by reading the Tokyo thread, I have learned about do's and don't's, and about businesses that either cater to or accommodate foreigners. And it's really not all that crazy expensive either! If you want some "shashimi", even though it's available and good in Brazil, dude junk your reticence and go to the land of the rising sun!

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3042337]I was recently in Sao Paulo for 12 days.

Accommodations: The first 7 days I stayed in a Moema airbnb, the last 5 at the W Sao Paulo in Vila Olimpia.

Clinicas: I only went to Abbobora this time around. 150r for room and 250r to the girl. BBBJ was given by 3 of 4 that I sessioned with. There were usually 12-15 girls during the week and 8-12 on Saturday. I was told 30 girls in total work there, with some girls just working on Fri / Sat. I saw 3-4 girls that had been there for at least 18 months (seen before) and a handful of brand new.

Seeking / Meu Patricinio (MP): My experience was mixed to bad given the effort that I put into it in preceding 3-4 weeks. For MP you will also need to know conversational Portuguese. I'd say 50% of the girls straight up P4 P, 30% in need of $$ for rent or tuition, 20% clueless. Girls would generally ask 800-2500r to meet. I ended up meeting 4 girls with costs ranging 800r to 1200r for 2 hours. 1 girl was a catfish and I sent home immediately. Also of note, some girls don't live in Sao Paulo, but will say they do with the expectation you'll fly them in (nuts!)

Favoritas: Had 2 of my regulars. One still works PT at Abbobora and another I met on Bumble of all places. Costs 500-700r for 3 hours and I usually tipped 50-100r for Uber. On one of my last nights the Bumble favorita brought a blonde friend for a threesome. Total cost 1600r.

Clubs / Boates.

Casarao: Went 2 x. I think the entry was 60-75 r, but I can't recall. The downstairs has been built out and looking quite nice. Usually 70-100 girls with them asking 300-400ST and 700-800 LT. I tried to negotiate, but girls were unwilling for me. A friend said that I look too gringo and dress too nice. I.e. I'm a mark LOL. With the new downstairs the quality seems to have gone up, but also a little more bitchy attitude.

Scandallo: Went 2 x on a Wednesday and Thursday. I paid the 700r entry both times. Girls would start at 1500-2000, but could be had for 1000-1200r. I was able to negotiate better here. I believe 125-175 girls, but it's hard to keep track. Better ratio of girls to guys, more consistently attractive girls, and great service from waiters. Rooms 340 r, drinks 45-100 r, bottles 800r.

Gauguin: Went 3 x from Tue to Fri. Entry was all over the map. 120 all consumable, 250 with 150 consumable, and I think 190 all consumable once. Girls start at 1200-1500, but could be had for 800-1000r, room was ~200r. Need to negotiate BBBJ prior, but all agreed if asked. Two other ISGers were getting LT for 1200r.

Bomboa: Went 3 x. Entry the first two times was 400r all consumable, but the last night they told me they now have an entry fee (was 98 r). Even Marco (head guy) said it was new. Perhaps someone else can confirm? There were 30-50 girls depending on the night and was told that 75-80 girls work there overall. I'd try to arrive by 9:30/10 pm before girls scooped up. Drinks mostly 40-90r. Girls would start at 1000-1200r and settle on 700-900r. No problem with BBBJ. Rooms 210-240 I believe.[/QUOTE]This is a great overall report! Many thanks. I was thinking of staying in Moema as well. Did you have any problems with airplane noise there in Moema being close to an airport?

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;3042457]Just confirmed with Scandallo that on a regular night it's 400 real before 7 PM, fully consumable. After 7 PM its's 600 real, 400 consumable. Didn't ask about the rebate on band nights but that may be because you are leaving before the band starts.[/QUOTE]Yes, this trip I didn't go until 10 pm or so, and at least one of the nights there was definitely a band.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3042625]This is a great overall report! Many thanks. I was thinking of staying in Moema as well. Did you have any problems with airplane noise there in Moema being close to an airport?[/QUOTE]It is loud, but I personally don't as I try to get lower floors and bring earplugs should it get loud enough.

At chicago85 Excellent report. I will give Bomba more visits because it's closer to Casarao.

The expanded downstairs of casarso gives a better view of all the different garotas flowing through the place. In general, I have sessions with more 19 to 21-year-old girls for $400 brl to $450 brl an hour than in scandallo. Threesomes with two 19-year-old GND blondes, light skin green eyes muletas, sexy young morenas garotas is a lot easier on the wallet. Kkk lately I have been using mecardo libre pay or InfinitePay to transfer payments to garotas. One time I didn't recognize an autorepair business transaction and disputed the payment. The bank reversed the payment. Clinic Enjoy in moema was pissed haha kkk I told those mofos and made it right once I knew it was them. In casarao some garotas use their real name, salon business or hair salon to receive the payment.

There is a fresher crop of young GND garotas taking the onibus or blahblah car from the interior of the country to visit casarao for a few nights. They make some fast coin before Natal and move on with their lives.

I was back in SP again a week or 2 ago on a Thursday night. I decided to check out Scandallo for the first time with a friend. We had both been to Casarao many times before and thought we were prepared. Boy were we wrong! Holy shit, that place is absolutely unbelievable and exceeded any expectations we had. It reminds me of a fancy high end club you would see in any big city. It took all our willpower to not walk around with our jaws on the floor all night. The quality of the women there was unbelievable and there was something for every taste.

We arrived around 8 pm so we had the are $400 consumable + are $200 cover. There was a band that night that was quite good as well. We had a meal of sushi in the restaurant which was amazing and reasonably priced.

As per the warnings on here the girls started very high, but we were able to negotiate them down. The one I took started at are $2800, but eventually came down to are $1500 for an hour. My friend's girl started at are $2000, and also came down to are $1500. Rooms were are $340 for the hour. They kept switching back and forth between are $ and US $. I had to clarify that I wanted pricing in are $ cash as I am not American, nor do I carry USD. The rooms were very nice and clean.

In the room I got SF2, DATY, BBBJ, CFS, MPOS, and finished up with another SF2 at the end. Overall was a great experience and will definitely be going back. After the session we relaxed and listened to the band for a bit and hat a couple more beers and water. Beers were are $50 and water was are $20.

We left Scandallo around midnight and went to Casarao. It felt like we were walking into a dive bar compared to where we just left. Still had a good time there and found a couple takeout options for are $1000 to take back to our hotel after the bar closed.

Was a great night overall and will definitely be repeating next time I'm in SP.

[QUOTE=Delarian;3042988]I was back in SP again a week or 2 ago on a Thursday night. I decided to check out Scandallo for the first time with a friend. We had both been to Casarao many times before and thought we were prepared. Boy were we wrong! Holy shit, that place is absolutely unbelievable and exceeded any expectations we had. It reminds me of a fancy high end club you would see in any big city. It took all our willpower to not walk around with our jaws on the floor all night. The quality of the women there was unbelievable and there was something for every taste.

We arrived around 8 pm so we had the are $400 consumable + are $200 cover. There was a band that night that was quite good as well. We had a meal of sushi in the restaurant which was amazing and reasonably priced.

As per the warnings on here the girls started very high, but we were able to negotiate them down. The one I took started at are $2800, but eventually came down to are $1500 for an hour. My friend's girl started at are $2000, and also came down to are $1500. Rooms were are $340 for the hour. They kept switching back and forth between are $ and US $. I had to clarify that I wanted pricing in are $ cash as I am not American, nor do I carry USD. The rooms were very nice and clean.

In the room I got SF2, DATY, BBBJ, CFS, MPOS, and finished up with another SF2 at the end. Overall was a great experience and will definitely be going back. After the session we relaxed and listened to the band for a bit and hat a couple more beers and water. Beers were are $50 and water was are $20.

We left Scandallo around midnight and went to Casarao. It felt like we were walking into a dive bar compared to where we just left. Still had a good time there and found a couple takeout options for are $1000 to take back to our hotel after the bar closed.

Was a great night overall and will definitely be repeating next time I'm in SP.[/QUOTE]Love this report because it's so spot on for the feeling you get when you go too Scan. It just boggles the mind! But what I love most is you enjoyed the spectacle of Scan and had a girl and then went late night to Casa to grab another and close it out. This is my standard method these days.

1500 is a bit high, but they def smell blood in the water with the newbies. Glad you had fun. It's something isn't it?

I finished writing up my notes from a long trip to Brazil I completed last month and will post my trip reports for each city.

By way of introduction, while I only started posting a few weeks ago I've actually been a member of this board for over two decades. I'm a veteran of the old Argentina board and when I registered my username there in the early 2000's it appears it was registered here as well (probably same database). Argentina was my main destination for a long time, and in it's golden years the BA club scene was stellar, IMO better than SP if you remove Scandallo from the equation. I had countless adventures there and many fond memories. Alas, the best clubs in Recoleta had closed by 2012-13, and while the Centro clubs continued to provide night time entertainment, they too eventually closed a few years later as well. As the BA boliche scene wound down I branched out more to other countries in my travels. Mainly South / Central America, Europe and Africa to a lesser extent, and added Brazil starting in 2020. I had read many reports about Brazil over the years, mainly on another UTR board (now inactive) I was on. I always knew I'd visit someday. But it was only when Covid hit (and just after the ending of the visa requirement) that a little bell went off in my head "ding ding now is the time for Brazil" LOL. Since then I've been coming to Brazil every year, and it's become my new main travel destination.

I want to thank the regular posters here for making the Brazil boards a fantastic resource. The information sharing, wisdom and respectful dialogue are great, and I've learned a ton from reading the reports and discussions here. I'm long overdue to give back a little.

I finished my Brazil trip with 2 weeks in Sao Paulo in November. This was my 7th time in SP.

Accommodations: I stayed in three apartments in three different parts of the city (Republica, Moema, Santo Amaro). The average cost for each was in the range $53-70/ night. And a few nights at a hotel in Moema.

Comment on Republica: The area in and around the Copan building in Republica was more interesting than I expected, with lots of bars and restaurants. The Terraco Italia bar at the top of the 46-story Edificio Italia building was impressive. I had just stopped in to have a look and didn't have a reservation, but the incredible night time view and intimate upscale ambience made it clear this could be a great place to bring a date. Right around the corner, there's a trendy restaurant and beerhouse called Orfeu that was good.

Lotus Lounge (clinica in Vila Olimpia): Saw Lyra. Very pretty in person, short with enhanced DDs. Smiling and friendly. Slow and sensual BBBJ with good suction and exquisite BLS. CIM available but did not partake. Thought about going back to see her but could not coordinate. 880/ h (450 girl + 430 house).

Baroneses Club (clinica in Vila Congonhas next to CGH airport): First time here, nice upscale facilities as expected. Saw Natasha. Attractive girl, friendly but a bit awkward and not very sensual. Service was meh but her natural DDs were spectacular. The photos are accurate. Go for the tits. Same pricing as LL 880/ h (450+430).

Clinica Carinas (clinica in Moema). This place is a bit of a gem IMO. Good quality, better than most in Moema, though below Abbobora. No lineup though, just an iPad selection and additional photos on the TV screen in the lobby. The facilities were always good, but after recent renovations I'd say the rooms are now among the best in all of SP. And competitive pricing. I did a threesome with Kakau and Kimy for a total of 650 BRL / h. The guy at the desk will help you choose girls that work well together. These two had worked together several times before so it was all very natural. Just did a long double BBBJ in a couple different positions and it was porn-like hottt. Kakau was the pro in this department. No CIM but learned after it was available from Kakau but needs to be discussed and tip negotiated before. Got a massage after to finish the hour. Great time.

57 House Friends Club: I stopped in here one evening to just have a beer and check it out. Very basic setup but friendly girls and staff. I ended up having a fun time hanging out with Leticia for over an hour, we had drinks and good convo and it was a great way to spend an evening and practice my Porto. She tempted me to take a room, but I held firm as I was taking a day off. One beer, one coke and 2 gins cost 180, plus gave L a good tip.

Scandallo: Visited 1 X. Went on a Thurs to ensure a good selection. It's always great to be back here. Had some food in the restaurant first then spent over an hour walking around checking out the 100+ girls, drinking and having a few convos. Settled on a petite busty branca "M". A real beauty, and good company. Agreed on price and had a good time in the room with BBBJ and kissing which she initiated. No CIM. Total cost for the night was about 2250 BR: 600 entry, 340 for the room, 1200 for M, an extra caipirinha for M after the room, and some misc tips to staff. In the room we discussed meeting outside and I had mentioned I would pay the same rate but for more time like a few hours. To my pleasant surprise there was no objection, and we ended up meeting again at my hotel a few days later for 1200 + 100 Uber. I had to hold back a huge grin when she arrived in the lobby well-dressed, classy and gorgeous. Damn. After a drink in the resto we watched the Netflix series "Os Donos do Jogo" (Rulers of Fortune) in bed. Good series about the gambling mafia in Rio. After two episodes I initiated the action and this was the low point of the date. Despite having a naked 9 cuddled next to me watching Netlix for two hours, there just wasn't a spark at this point and it was an effort to finish. Oh well can't win them all. After the date I took a couple days off, had some introspection about myself and my extended stay in Brazil, but my concerns vanished in the next session which was be at Bomboa.

Bomboa: Visited 2 X. Bomboa and Scandallo are my two favorite clubs in town, but lately I'm visiting Bomboa more as it hits the sweet spot for relaxed vibe, more economical, good amenities and enough hotties that I still usually find someone I like. Just getting a seat to relax and watch the eye candy can be a deciding factor itself. Rarely a problem at Bomboa, but sometimes tough in the middle club section of Scandallo on a busy night. First night at Bomboa was a Tues and the selection was a bit thin, ended up going with Sabrina. Good time, very open minded with skillz. Second night in Bomboa was a Thurs and it was more hopping. Place was 80% full with 40-50 girls. Spent a good hour hanging out, looking around and chatting with a few girls. Decided on "be", a dark haired branca, cute with great tits and good positive energy. This one turned out to be a home run. Had some drinks and convo on the couches, which transitioned into some petting and making out. More kissing in the room, great BBBJ w DT, and the fuck was the best performance I've had in years. CIM finish. This was late in the trip and I wasn't able to see be again, but got her number. Most importantly, this session was valuable confirmation after a poor session a few days earlier, that despite slacking a bit on my diet and exercise routine after a month in Brazil, I was pacing myself well enough and still had this in me. Cost for both visits was 800 for the girl + 670 for consumption / room / tax.

Connection Night Club: Visited 1 X on a Saturday evening for some recon. It had been a few years since my last visit here and there have been some renovations making the place look a bit more upscale and modern. Had to register at the new front desk and then take the elevator up a floor. 300 entry which includes 150 for consumption. I was just there mid-evening (not late) but the place was only about 25% full. Maybe 20 girls and 20 guys. Quality was not great with maybe 2 I was interested in. Had a lively chat with one about Brazilian politics. Also chatted with a 21 year old brunette who was probably the hottest there. Slim, beautiful with natural be. She had just started a week ago and quoted me 600. Was going to get her number to see another day but when she said no BBBJ I moved on.

Espaco Viv: During my time off between M and be I paid a bit better attention to my diet and went for a run in Parque Ibirapuera, which had been on my bucket list for a long time. Worked up a good sweat and after cooling down decided to go for a massage at Espaco Viv on Rua dos Ingleses. This is my go-to place in SP for good professional massage with limited options if you want them. Got photos of the lineup on WhatsApp and made an appointment with Isabella. Had a shower first then a standard / basic massage. I didn't recall the basic option included a he but I was wrong LOL. I stopped her and said I was good with just the massage. Excellent massage with some stretching too. Cost was 240 BRL for 90 minutes and gave a good tip as it was exactly what I needed.

Summary.

It was a good 7th visit to Sao Paulo. I expanded my knowledge of the city with new locations, restaurants and other experiences. And had many good sessions. This time, it turned out my two favorite were the last two. Be from Bomboa, and then the K&K threesome at Carinas on my last full day. I always say "Leave on a high note", and that I did.

[QUOTE=Esten;3043101]I finished my Brazil trip with 2 weeks in Sao Paulo in November. This was my 7th time in SP.

Accommodations: I stayed in three apartments in three different parts of the city (Republica, Moema, Santo Amaro). The average cost for each was in the range $53-70/ night. And a few nights at a hotel in Moema.

Comment on Republica: The area in and around the Copan building in Republica was more interesting than I expected, with lots of bars and restaurants. The Terraco Italia bar at the top of the 46-story Edificio Italia building was impressive. I had just stopped in to have a look and didn't have a reservation, but the incredible night time view and intimate upscale ambience made it clear this could be a great place to bring a date. Right around the corner, there's a trendy restaurant and beerhouse called Orfeu that was good..[/QUOTE]Do the clinicas have websites?

Esten, thanks for your great report. About Carinas, how close to really were the iPad photos? Do you pay before or after you see the girl?

[QUOTE=Esten;3043101]I finished my Brazil trip with 2 weeks in Sao Paulo in November. This was my 7th time in SP.

Accommodations: I stayed in three apartments in three different parts of the city (Republica, Moema, Santo Amaro). The average cost for each was in the range $53-70/ night. And a few nights at a hotel in Moema.

[/QUOTE]So far I count 4-5 different clinicas located within ten minutes of walking distance of each other in Moema on Google Maps so it might make sense geographically to stay there for my first trip. Were you able to tolerate the airplane noise from your hotel in Moema or would you recommend not staying there at all?

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3043516]So far I count 4-5 different clinicas located within ten minutes of walking distance of each other in Moema on Google Maps so it might make sense geographically to stay there for my first trip. Were you able to tolerate the airplane noise from your hotel in Moema or would you recommend not staying there at all?[/QUOTE]It's OK staying in Moema if you pick the right accommodation. You want to avoid places that are directly in the flight path of the aircraft overhead. I have stayed at the Mercure Times Square with zero noise problems. But I will never stay at the Wyndham next to Ibirupuera Shopping ever again. That's a really convenient location, but it's right in the flight path and noisy as hell! At least one other here claims to have had no issues at that Wyndham, but I did. Beware!

[QUOTE=Esten;3043101]I finished my Brazil trip with 2 weeks in Sao Paulo in November. This was my 7th time in SP.

Accommodations: I stayed in three apartments in three different parts of the city (Republica, Moema, Santo Amaro). The average cost for each was in the range $53-70/ night. And a few nights at a hotel in Moema.

Comment on Republica: The area in and around the Copan building in Republica was more interesting than I expected, with lots of bars and restaurants. The Terraco Italia bar at the top of the 46-story Edificio Italia building was impressive. I had just stopped in to have a look and didn't have a reservation, but the incredible night time view and intimate upscale ambience made it clear this could be a great place to bring a date. Right around the corner, there's a trendy restaurant and beerhouse called Orfeu that was good.

Lotus Lounge (clinica in Vila Olimpia): Saw Lyra. Very pretty in person, short with enhanced DDs. Smiling and friendly. Slow and sensual BBBJ with good suction and exquisite BLS. CIM available but did not partake. Thought about going back to see her but could not coordinate..[/QUOTE]Mice choice that's the girl I would've picked, with that being said how was her pussy? Good FS?

[QUOTE=Safado70;3043255]Esten, thanks for your great report. About Carinas, how close to really were the iPad photos? Do you pay before or after you see the girl?[/QUOTE]The photos from Carinas have been reasonably accurate, in the ballpark though glammed up a bit. Same for the other two clinicas I mentioned. In person you might consider the girls 0. 5 or 1 rating lower but not way off. I've never felt misled by the photos and descriptions so far, but yeah it could still be a bit of a gamble compared to a lineup. Sorry, I totally forget if I paid before or after. Links below.

[URL]https://carinasclinica.com.br/[/URL]

[URL]https://lotuslounge.com.br/[/URL] You need to register or contract them on WhatsApp to get the link to the profiles and photos.

[URL]https://baronesas.club/[/URL] Click on the WhatsApp button then on Galeria.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3043519]It's OK staying in Moema if you pick the right accommodation. You want to avoid places that are directly in the flight path of the aircraft overhead. I have stayed at the Mercure Times Square with zero noise problems. But I will never stay at the Wyndham next to Ibirupuera Shopping ever again. That's a really convenient location, but it's right in the flight path and noisy as hell! At least one other here claims to have had no issues at that Wyndham, but I did. Beware![/QUOTE]You should check out the [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4069-Sao-Paulo-Hotels-and-List[/URL] on the forum to consider hotel airbnb apartment options in Moema area or adjacent Villa Marina. There are solid recommendations for places to avoid. Cane and others reported there experience. For peace & quiet I prefer moema apartments with double paned windows to get a good night rest. The noise level tolerance is subjective to be sure. If I can't hear that 0600 am fvking small jet taking off from CGH every morning then its all good. Also beware of the construction noise it happens all over the place, they building out more fvking condos places in Moema.

There are at least 12 to 15 clinicas, bunch of spas, some ballads nightclub with freelancers, three swingy clubs, a bunch of luxury tablet clinics all within walking distance in moema.

You can checkout the moema area of clinicas on gpguia. Advise to get on the clinicas wassap status to see their daily team lineup status to plan walking trip or uber routes or closing hours. If you see fresh newbie reserve her quick in advance or miss out.

I'm writing this as I sit at the Esch cafe, contemplating as to what cigar I will select from their humidor. And for anyone who is keen to Cubans, the selection is good here and extensive.

Touched down into São Paulo today in the am, checked into the hotel, cleaned up and headed to lushness. It was early so pickings were slim.

440 to the house 250 to Duda. A short curvy Braziliera. BBBJ CIM without hesitation, CFS (I didn't ask if BBFS my choice). She had a great attitude, she even told me she loves what she does.

Enjoying my HOYO Epicure No. 3 and wondering if I should head back for round two before my late afternoon nap to prepare for tonight.

I'm here for a week, more to follow!

So. After I finished my cigar I decided to head back to lushness. Diplo session with Barbara and Mavie. House special 550 for room 250/ HR per girl plus 125 for one additional 30 min. They played nice together. I even kept one for an extra 30 minutes. BBBJ for both, BBFS on the second one. Wow. Amazing times!

Going back to the room to recuperate. Scandallo tonight!

[QUOTE=Jsaxxon1221;3043836]I'm writing this as I sit at the Esch cafe, contemplating as to what cigar I will select from their humidor. And for anyone who is keen to Cubans, the selection is good here and extensive.

Touched down into So Paulo today in the am, checked into the hotel, cleaned up and headed to lushness. It was early so pickings were slim.

440 to the house 250 to Duda. A short curvy Braziliera. BBBJ CIM without hesitation, CFS (I didn't ask if BBFS my choice). She had a great attitude, she even told me she loves what she does.

Enjoying my HOYO Epicure No. 3 and wondering if I should head back for round two before my late afternoon nap to prepare for tonight.

I'm here for a week, more to follow!

So. After I finished my cigar I decided to head back to lushness. Diplo session with Barbara and Mavie. House special 550 for room 250/ HR per girl plus 125 for one additional 30 min. They played nice together. I even kept one for an extra 30 minutes. BBBJ for both, BBFS on the second one. Wow. Amazing times!

Going back to the room to recuperate. Scandallo tonight![/QUOTE]Nice report. So its 440 to the house and the girl gets 250 of that? Do you see the girl in person or do you have to look thru an tablet to pick a girl? Duda looks good on the site. Thanks.

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Cuban cigars brazilian coffee good wifi brazilian women.

[QUOTE=Jsaxxon1221;3043836]I'm writing this as I sit at the Esch cafe, contemplating as to what cigar I will select from their humidor. And for anyone who is keen to Cubans, the selection is good here and extensive.

Touched down into So Paulo today in the am, checked into the hotel, cleaned up and headed to lushness. It was early so pickings were slim.

440 to the house 250 to Duda. A short curvy Braziliera. BBBJ CIM without hesitation, CFS (I didn't ask if BBFS my choice). She had a great attitude, she even told me she loves what she does.

Enjoying my HOYO Epicure No. 3 and wondering if I should head back for round two before my late afternoon nap to prepare for tonight.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChicaChaser;3041662]Sorry guys, I have to post here on ISG since I've been unable to access Argentina Private while here in Buenos Aires. I've tried accessing AP with and without a VPN, on both my phone (cell network) and hotel WiFi. No joy either way. It seems it's blocked by the government?

I'm hoping that either someone knows how to connect with AP from BA or someone can recommend one or two decent daytime action places. I know the clubs were shut down in 2013 but there has to be massage places like those in Sao Paulo. There has to be. Unless there's no horny guys here.

Lastly, does Jackson still own this forum and AP's? Is he still in BA? I had dinner with him a few times in the early 2000's but maybe he has sold the site. Idk.[/QUOTE]Jax is still head honcho and in BA, but mongering here is dead, its all online now. Go to SaP if that's what you want, best place in the world now!

Stranger.

Got to the club around 11. Maybe around 40-50 girls and as many men. My expectations were already tempered due to it being the holidays, but there were many stunners in the house all dressed to the 9's! Being from so cal I can compare this club to Hong Kong in Tijuana only much much classier.

Right off the bat I see a group of girls hanging out by the bar make my way there and get myself a drink. One of them initiates conversation with me and it just so happens she speaks English, wonderful. A little petite red head, not smoke show hot, but definitely GND look and chill vibes. We talk for a bit and go upstairs. I believe it was 340 to the house for 1 hour, and she wanted 1200. Had an amazing time and went over the hour mark. I noticed they never inform you you're going over the hour mark. Good and bad I guess.

Returned and chilled for a bit, it was already around 2, tired and hungry, ordered some food. Struck up a convo with a few girls. Was about to call it I had this tall morena sit next to me. Chatted for a bit and said fuck it I know the 24th and 25th will be dead let's get it done. I asked how much she said 2 k and I laughed. She spoke some Spanish as do I so we went back and forth for a bit but settled on 1200 and a couple of French fries. Started off a little mechanical but she got into the rhythm of things.

Both girls BBBJ, CFS, CIM. Both girls 1200 and whatever the house fee is for 1 hour.

For lushness the house fee and girl fee are separate. House fee is set, girl fee I'm assuming is negotiable but all girls pretty firm on 250.

Vagabundo thanks for the recommendation, I'll be in Rio for the new years and I'll check that place out. Anytime I'm out of the states I always enjoy going to cigar bars and checking out what Cubans they have in stock. The Cuban market at least in the states has been a total shit show since the pandemic.

Merry Christmas gents!

More to come.

Walked by Bomboa today, 25 Dec, and work was going on. Painting tables. Got this sent to me via Whatsapp. Save yourself a trip if you are in town.

[QUOTE=Jsaxxon1221;3044002]Got to the club around 11. Maybe around 40-50 girls and as many men. My expectations were already tempered due to it being the holidays, but there were many stunners in the house all dressed to the 9's! Being from so cal I can compare this club to Hong Kong in Tijuana only much much classier.

Right off the bat I see a group of girls hanging out by the bar make my way there and get myself a drink. One of them initiates conversation with me and it just so happens she speaks English, wonderful. A little petite red head, not smoke show hot, but definitely GND look and chill vibes. We talk for a bit and go upstairs. I believe it was 340 to the house for 1 hour, and she wanted 1200. Had an amazing time and went over the hour mark. I noticed they never inform you you're going over the hour mark. Good and bad I guess.

Returned and chilled for a bit, it was already around 2, tired and hungry, ordered some food. Struck up a convo with a few girls. Was about to call it I had this tall morena sit next to me. Chatted for a bit and said fuck it I know the 24th and 25th will be dead let's get it done. I asked how much she said 2 k and I laughed. She spoke some Spanish as do I so we went back and forth for a bit but settled on 1200 and a couple of French fries. Started off a little mechanical but she got into the rhythm of things.

Both girls BBBJ, CFS, CIM. Both girls 1200 and whatever the house fee is for 1 hour.

For lushness the house fee and girl fee are separate. House fee is set, girl fee I'm assuming is negotiable but all girls pretty firm on 250.

Vagabundo thanks for the recommendation, I'll be in Rio for the new years and I'll check that place out. Anytime I'm out of the states I always enjoy going to cigar bars and checking out what Cubans they have in stock. The Cuban market at least in the states has been a total shit show since the pandemic.

Merry Christmas gents!

More to come.[/QUOTE]Ok, Thanks. How is the house fee more than what the girl gets. Thats crazy.

Lets link up for a cigar and coffee in Rio at velha Havana then.

PM me.

[QUOTE=Jsaxxon1221;3044002]Got to the club around 11. Maybe around 40-50 girls and as many men. My expectations were already tempered due to it being the holidays, but there were many stunners in the house all dressed to the 9's! Being from so cal I can compare this club to Hong Kong in Tijuana only much much classier.

Right off the bat I see a group of girls hanging out by the bar make my way there and get myself a drink. One of them initiates conversation with me and it just so happens she speaks English, wonderful. A little petite red head, not smoke show hot, but definitely GND look and chill vibes. We talk for a bit and go upstairs. I believe it was 340 to the house for 1 hour, and she wanted 1200. Had an amazing time and went over the hour mark. I noticed they never inform you you're going over the hour mark. Good and bad I guess.

Returned and chilled for a bit, it was already around 2, tired and hungry, ordered some food. Struck up a convo with a few girls. Was about to call it I had this tall morena sit next to me. Chatted for a bit and said fuck it I know the 24th and 25th will be dead let's get it done. I asked how much she said 2 k and I laughed. She spoke some Spanish as do I so we went back and forth for a bit but settled on 1200 and a couple of French fries. Started off a little mechanical but she got into the rhythm of things..[/QUOTE]

The 24th and 25th were spent with a foreigner I met by the pool at my hotel, she is traveling by herself as well, we hit it off and that's that. It was a nice aside but I didn't come half way around the world for that.

26th (today). I just departed Sharon premium. 430 to the house, 300 to Amanda who didn't look like her pics and had a smelly vagina. How do you say smelly vagina in Porto? Anyway. Quick nut, quick shower and skedaddle. I don't fault the house for this, but any case. Lots of other options so I'll see if I do a quick afternoon session before getting scandalous tonight. Or who knows maybe expand my horizons, some of the girls have told me cafe photo is worth checking out.

On another note. For those who buy burner phones that come with a number, how the helllllll do you keep WhatsApp from banning you after adding new numbers?? This is the second time I've been banned for supposed spamming!

Cigar of the day is a nice Upmann Connie A. Took a hard look at the bolivar BF, but have a brand new box in my humidor at home.

More to come.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3044084]Lets link up for a cigar and coffee in Rio at velha Havana then.

PM me.[/QUOTE]Seems I have to have a paid membership to send a pm?

[QUOTE=Jsaxxon1221;3044002]

Right off the bat I see a group of girls hanging out by the bar make my way there and get myself a drink. One of them initiates conversation with me and it just so happens she speaks English, wonderful. A little petite red head, not smoke show hot, but definitely GND look and chill vibes. We talk for a bit and go upstairs. I believe it was 340 to the house for 1 hour, and she wanted 1200. Had an amazing time and went over the hour mark. I noticed they never inform you you're going over the hour mark. Good and bad I guess.
[/QUOTE]Did she have curly hair and like a really big tattoo on her left leg? Just curious might have met here awhile back.

She spoke a bit english but nothing amazing.

Lotus lounge.

430 to house 450 Vivienne, a petite red head with perky fake titties but a nice plump natural assssss.

Looks wise she's smoking hot, performance was good, but she didn't like to go hard. BBBJ, CFS.

On a negative note, the AC wasn't working in the room, they brought a fan but it just circulated warm air.

More to follow.

Banana cafe- came here on a recommendation from a girl I'm talking to on SA. Good food, chill vibes, a lot of eye candy. Some looked like working girls, others just having a night out (maybe).

I see these two girls approaching a cigarette vendor on the street and they had a back and forth regarding something. I asked what the problem was as it was happening right in front of me and the dude said in English to my surprise, she don't have the money, ahhh OK. I asked how much he said 250 for a e-cig I said 75, he said ok.

Now I got two girls sitting at my table, one taller darker one, one shorter blonde one that was very very quite, google translating, and 5 minutes into the convo the taller one says that they are escorts. Well I'll be damned! You don't say?

Back to the hotel, three hours of fucking. The quiet one turned out to be crazy in bed. It's allllways the quiet ones! Both played well together. 1000 to each after the initial quote of 2 k for each and an uber back to their place.

Needless to say I never made it to scandallo night!

Bearsi- no tats straight long red hair.

[QUOTE=Jsaxxon1221;3044133]The 24th and 25th were spent with a foreigner I met by the pool at my hotel, she is traveling by herself as well, we hit it off and that's that. It was a nice aside but I didn't come half way around the world for that.

26th (today). I just departed Sharon premium. 430 to the house, 300 to Amanda who didn't look like her pics and had a smelly vagina. How do you say smelly vagina in Porto? Anyway. Quick nut, quick shower and skedaddle. I don't fault the house for this, but any case. Lots of other options so I'll see if I do a quick afternoon session before getting scandalous tonight. Or who knows maybe expand my horizons, some of the girls have told me cafe photo is worth checking out.

On another note. For those who buy burner phones that come with a number, how the helllllll do you keep WhatsApp from banning you after adding new numbers?? This is the second time I've been banned for supposed spamming!

Cigar of the day is a nice Upmann Connie A. Took a hard look at the bolivar BF, but have a brand new box in my humidor at home.

More to come.[/QUOTE]It usually bans the numbers when multiple people "report" to WhatsApp about spamming. It had happened to me when I send inquiries to multiple numbers with the same set of questions LOL.

[QUOTE=Jsaxxon1221;3044243]
Banana cafe- came here on a recommendation from a girl I'm talking to on SA. Good food, chill vibes, a lot of eye candy. Some looked like working girls, others just having a night out (maybe).

I see these two girls approaching a cigarette vendor on the street and they had a back and forth regarding something. I asked what the problem was as it was happening right in front of me and the dude said in English to my surprise, she don't have the money, ahhh OK. I asked how much he said 250 for a e-cig I said 75, he said ok.

Now I got two girls sitting at my table, one taller darker one, one shorter blonde one that was very very quite, google translating, and 5 minutes into the convo the taller one says that they are escorts. Well I'll be damned! You don't say?

Back to the hotel, three hours of fucking. The quiet one turned out to be crazy in bed. It's allllways the quiet ones! Both played well together. 1000 to each after the initial quote of 2 k for each and an uber back to their place.

Needless to say I never made it to scandallo night!

Bearsi- no tats straight long red hair.[/QUOTE]Would have PMed you but you don't seem to have a way to message you but thanks.

Went to banana cafe before in August.

Pretty nice place but I think they just moved or are moving next year to a new location.

Went with a girl but yea its kinda hard to gauge whos a working girl and who are girls that are celebrating.

Didn't go with anyone as we just hit up the regular clubs and tried some swing clubs to look around.

EDIT
jusr read you went to their place
i trust brazilian girls over colombian girls but i honestly never to go girls place that i just met
i always bring them back to my place or pick a sex motel as neutral grounds
when you go back to a girls place they are more likely to act up because they control the place
had it happen to a friend of mine in rio
the girl got pissed at him and tried to lock him inside until he paid more than she asked (in rio you can lock the door from the inside with a key and cant leave until someone unlocks it for you)

ive actually slept and left my luggage at a girls place a few time but i already had traveled with her before and we are friends now and she has kids so shes been very good contact to have
just for the first time i would always try to go back your place or a neutral area

[QUOTE=Jsaxxon1221;3044134]Seems I have to have a paid membership to send a pm?[/QUOTE]You just need to post more and you will go from a regular member to a senior member status.

Maybe like more than 30 posts or something like that.

Good way for the site to incentivize people to put out more information that benefits everyone.

[QUOTE=Jsaxxon1221;3044133]The 24th and 25th were spent with a foreigner I met by the pool at my hotel, she is traveling by herself as well, we hit it off and that's that. It was a nice aside but I didn't come half way around the world for that.

26th (today). I just departed Sharon premium. 430 to the house, 300 to Amanda who didn't look like her pics and had a smelly vagina. How do you say smelly vagina in Porto? Anyway. Quick nut, quick shower and skedaddle. I don't fault the house for this, but any case. Lots of other options so I'll see if I do a quick afternoon session before getting scandalous tonight. Or who knows maybe expand my horizons, some of the girls have told me cafe photo is worth checking out.

More to come.[/QUOTE]I would recommend going to connections which is the sister club to scandallo.

Same owner.

Its a bit of drive to get there (45 mins or so) but found some good talent and way less guys but also less girls compared to scandallo but the guy to girl ratio is maybe 1:6 or so where scandallo is like 1:3.

Also gaugin club is also really nice and closer.

Girls are much reasonable and can take out for a good price.

Cafe photo is too small.

They charge scandallo entry fee and its always like maybe 20 girls and 3 guys but they girls want scandallo prices.

Not worth it tbh.

Very high recommend would be Bahamas club in moema.

Low entry fee and the girls walk around in bikins.

Very chill girls and food is nice.

Not too many guys too so you really have no competition and I usually see guys come and play pool with the girls and just chill.

Good prices and the closet club depending where you are staying.

If I arrive around when the prives in Moema open up at 11 am or noon for some of them, are most of the girls for the day there yet or should I go later in the afternoon?

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3044300]If I arrive around when the prives in Moema open up at 11 am or noon for some of them, are most of the girls for the day there yet or should I go later in the afternoon?[/QUOTE]Before popping into a clinica its best to check their whatsapp status first. Send a message asking if garota arrived or she is on her way. Kkk. Even if you go early some bro has already scheduled garota for the first sessions whenever she arrives arrives. There is more choices going later but also more competiton in scheduling sessions. Whatever pretty GDP you like, half dozen other bros want her too. Its good idea to get the garota wassap number directly to know the time her ass going to show up.

The civilian girl hit me up and begged me to go sightseeing with her, she didn't feel comfortable going alone. I said fuck it let's go!! Started off at the Mercado had some lights snacks explored the vendors and some drinks. It always amazes me how popular these markets are outside of the US and how it draws people and families in to hang out and have a good time!!

Next we went to beco de Batman. Another interesting spot with a lot of the bohemian type selling their goods, and some amazing capirinhas!

Now. I got a date with a SA girl at 9 and the civilian chick lays it on me that it's her last night and she wants to spend it with me. I felt bad saying no, but the SA girl is a stone cold fox, so sorry baby.

Meet up with the SA girl at my hotel. Wow! The hottest girl I've been with so far. Tall, blonde hair, blue eyes, sexy sexy sexy. We had dinner at the hotel, back and forth with google translate, we were laughing the drinks were flowing and back to the room.

Two hours of fucking, it was about 1 am, she looked tired, I told her to spend the night and she'll go home in the AM. And she did.

700 to her in the am, and an uber ride back to her place.

It's Sunday today, contemplating getting a massage (legit), and then relaxing. I've been going pretty hard, so I feel like my body needs a break. Let's see how long that thought lasts hahaha!

[QUOTE=Tochka;3044374]Before popping into a clinica its best to check their whatsapp status first. Send a message asking if garota arrived or she is on her way. Kkk. Even if you go early some bro has already scheduled garota for the first sessions whenever she arrives arrives. There is more choices going later but also more competiton in scheduling sessions. Whatever pretty GDP you like, half dozen other bros want her too. Its good idea to get the garota wassap number directly to know the time her ass going to show up.[/QUOTE]Oh I was just thinking I'd show up and see whatever the lineup there is.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3044428]Oh I was just thinking I'd show up and see whatever the lineup there is.[/QUOTE]This works too. Roll the dice, walk in, and see who is available. I do it all the time at a handful of my favorite preferred clinicas when I have no particular girl in mind and want to wing it. The worst scenario is the lineup is not good so you move on to the next clinica where your luck will definitely be better.

I like to go clinica hopping early between 12:30 pm and 2 pm. I don't know if this is when most girls are on site or not, but my results satisfy me. After a session I like to grab a big late lunch somewhere good. Then I walk it off and eventually get back to my hotel where I relax until it's time to get ready for the evening's boate entertainment or a night at in my hotel room with a favorite girl.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3043012]Love this report because it's so spot on for the feeling you get when you go too Scan. It just boggles the mind! But what I love most is you enjoyed the spectacle of Scan and had a girl and then went late night to Casa to grab another and close it out. This is my standard method these days.

1500 is a bit high, but they def smell blood in the water with the newbies. Glad you had fun. It's something isn't it?[/QUOTE]Ya. It is really something to see and experience. I'm going back to SP again tonight so we will see where I end up checking out over the next couple nights.

Hi everyone,

This is my first time coming to Brazil, to São Paulo and Rio. I'm here for tourism and to meet some girls.

A very pretty DJ I met on Instagram (she works as a DJ in a swingers club) offered me $250 for one hour of sex in Rio.

Is she quoting in Brazilian reais or in US dollars?

Sorry to ask, but is this a normal price for one hour of sex in São Paulo or Rio?

Thanks in advance for your answers!

[QUOTE=Bearsi;3044286]Would have PMed you but you don't seem to have a way to message you but thanks.

Went to banana cafe before in August.

Pretty nice place but I think they just moved or are moving next year to a new location.

Went with a girl but yea its kinda hard to gauge whos a working girl and who are girls that are celebrating.

Didn't go with anyone as we just hit up the regular clubs and tried some swing clubs to look around.

EDIT
jusr read you went to their place
i trust brazilian girls over colombian girls but i honestly never to go girls place that i just met
i always bring them back to my place or pick a sex motel as neutral grounds
when you go back to a girls place they are more likely to act up because they control the place
had it happen to a friend of mine in rio
the girl got pissed at him and tried to lock him inside until he paid more than she asked (in rio you can lock the door from the inside with a key and cant leave until someone unlocks it for you)

ive actually slept and left my luggage at a girls place a few time but i already had traveled with her before and we are friends now and she has kids so shes been very good contact to have
just for the first time i would always try to go back your place or a neutral area[/QUOTE]Sorry. Should've specified, back to my hotel. Where security kindly registered them, and went up to my room that had been premeditatedly ho-proofed.

[QUOTE=Gilolo;3044460]Hi everyone,

This is my first time coming to Brazil, to So Paulo and Rio. I'm here for tourism and to meet some girls.

A very pretty DJ I met on Instagram (she works as a DJ in a swingers club) offered me $250 for one hour of sex in Rio.

Is she quoting in Brazilian reais or in US dollars?

Sorry to ask, but is this a normal price for one hour of sex in So Paulo or Rio?

Thanks in advance for your answers![/QUOTE]That is in USD, that is super high. Usually ranges between $100-200. Always ask in local currency.

Thanks what's the average in the local currency? How much do you pay usually for 1 h with a sexy lady who is between 20/25?

[QUOTE=Degenerate24;3044478]That is in USD, that is super high. Usually ranges between $100-200. Always ask in local currency.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gilolo;3044479]Thanks what's the average in the local currency? How much do you pay usually for 1 h with a sexy lady who is between 20/25?[/QUOTE]My experience this passed week has been 700-1200 local currency. As others have said I'd stay away from being quoted in USD. Some might start off high, but if you're in the negotiating mood you can counter or walk away outright.

[QUOTE=Jsaxxon1221;3044410]..... Meet up with the SA girl at my hotel. Wow! The hottest girl I've been with so far. Tall, blonde hair, blue eyes, sexy sexy sexy. We had dinner at the hotel, back and forth with google translate, we were laughing the drinks were flowing and back to the room.

Two hours of fucking, it was about 1 am, she looked tired, I told her to spend the night and she'll go home in the AM. And she did.

700 to her in the am, and an uber ride back to her place.... [/QUOTE]Sounds like a great time! 700 r or 700 USD?

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3044300]If I arrive around when the prives in Moema open up at 11 am or noon for some of them, are most of the girls for the day there yet or should I go later in the afternoon?[/QUOTE]It can vary quite a bit, but I'd say 12-1 pm. A lot of guys stop in over the noon hour and you want to get there before that happens, but not too early.

[QUOTE=Stranger;3043996]Jax is still head honcho and in BA, but mongering here is dead, its all online now. Go to SaP if that's what you want, best place in the world now!

Stranger.[/QUOTE]Good to learn that Jackson is still around. I first met him in '03-'04 and I had feared that he passed on!

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3044806]Sounds like a great time! 700 r or 700 USD?[/QUOTE]Local currency 700 r.

Sunday 28th.

Relaxed most of the day, visited Esch cafe again and enjoyed a nice monte #2.

Walked around that street for a bit and had lunch at this Italian spot called MOMA, excellent pasta. Streets were buzzing with people enjoying nice Sunday afternoon.

Returned back to my room chilled for a bit and then went to Nikka sushi for dinner. Good not great.

So after sushi I decided to venture to some of the spots I thought would be open on a Sunday evening, Gauguin-closed, Bahamas- closed, Bomboa closed until January, cafe foto- closed. It's a good thing my uber driver spoke English, we had a good laugh about it and took me back to my hotel. It was about 9:30 so I chilled at the bar until about 11:30 then headed to Casarao.

Walked in to a pretty empty upstairs, with women lined on either side of the room. Nothing worth mentioning. I grabbed a beer and made my way downstairs where I spotted the best looking women in the joint, a tall skinny blonde with fake titties and a nice round ass.

Chatted for a bit and went next door. Paid the house their usually fee, and she wanted 800.

The room. I know it's been mentioned before so I prepared myself a bit, but man. I think an STD is possible just by laying on those nasty bed sheets.

In any case, we did the deed, she was excellent in bed, took a shower and hightailed it out of there to go back to my room for another shower. Perhaps take out next time.

I'm writing this on the 29th, It's my last day here in SP. Tomorrow onwards to Rio for NYE celebrations. Spending a few nights there then Panama on the 3rd for a one night layover.

Update- 29th final day was spent by the pool and relaxing. Smoked a cigar and chilled at the hotel, got an early flight and onwards to Rio. Will be posting reports there subsequently.

Some tips: that worked for me.

- currency exchange at home before coming, makes using the ATM less of a requirement, find a local currency exchange spot and give them a heads up and they'll get it no problem, shop around for best exchange rate.

- Google Fi- worked flawlessly, I purchased it in the states and I had a number too. Only issue was adding too many new numbers to WhatsApp and being blocked a few times so keep an eye out for that.

- uber is great and plentiful.

- SA works. I believe some back and forth is needed, just like you would have face to face with the women at the bars to feel them out, but I use from time to time on my travels and have a high success rate. I've also noticed that they tend to start off a little higher, but negotiating usually brings them down to what YOU are willing to pay them.

Feel free to ask me any questions.

[QUOTE=Jsaxxon1221;3044916]Local currency 700 r.[/QUOTE]Nice! That's excellent for overnight with a hottie. I don't think I've ever paid less than 1200 r for overnight.

[QUOTE=Jsaxxon1221;3044918]Sunday 28th.

Relaxed most of the day, visited Esch cafe again and enjoyed a nice monte #2.

Walked around that street for a bit and had lunch at this Italian spot called MOMA, excellent pasta. Streets were buzzing with people enjoying nice Sunday afternoon.

Returned back to my room chilled for a bit and then went to Nikka sushi for dinner. Good not great.

So after sushi I decided to venture to some of the spots I thought would be open on a Sunday evening, Gauguin-closed, Bahamas- closed, Bomboa closed until January, cafe foto- closed. It's a good thing my uber driver spoke English, we had a good laugh about it and took me back to my hotel. It was about 9:30 so I chilled at the bar until about 11:30 then headed to Casarao.

Walked in to a pretty empty upstairs, with women lined on either side of the room. Nothing worth mentioning. I grabbed a beer and made my way downstairs where I spotted the best looking women in the joint, a tall skinny blonde with fake titties and a nice round ass.

Chatted for a bit and went next door. Paid the house their usually fee, and she wanted 800.

The room. I know it's been mentioned before so I prepared myself a bit, but man. I think an STD is possible just by laying on those nasty bed sheets.

In any case, we did the deed, she was excellent in bed, took a shower and hightailed it out of there to go back to my room for another shower. Perhaps take out next time.

I'm writing this on the 29th, It's my last day here in SP. Tomorrow onwards to Rio for NYE celebrations. Spending a few nights there then Panama on the 3rd for a one night layover.

Update- 29th final day was spent by the pool and relaxing. Smoked a cigar and chilled at the hotel, got an early flight and onwards to Rio. Will be posting reports there subsequently.

Some tips: that worked for me.

- currency exchange at home before coming, makes using the ATM less of a requirement, find a local currency exchange spot and give them a heads up and they'll get it no problem, shop around for best exchange rate.

- Google Fi- worked flawlessly, I purchased it in the states and I had a number too. Only issue was adding too many new numbers to WhatsApp and being blocked a few times so keep an eye out for that.

- uber is great and plentiful.

- SA works. I believe some back and forth is needed, just like you would have face to face with the women at the bars to feel them out, but I use from time to time on my travels and have a high success rate. I've also noticed that they tend to start off a little higher, but negotiating usually brings them down to what YOU are willing to pay them.

Feel free to ask me any questions.[/QUOTE]You said she asked 800 but you didn't say what you paid. For future reference 800 is very high for onsite Casarao. 500-600 should usually do it. Not flaming you. It's a good value if it's a good time. But just for the future.

Oscar Maroni, the owner of Bahamas, died today.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3044951]You said she asked 800 but you didn't say what you paid. For future reference 800 is very high for onsite Casarao. 500-600 should usually do it. Not flaming you. It's a good value if it's a good time. But just for the future.[/QUOTE]That is what I always get quoted 600 R for the hottest ones 8-9's. I believe the best is to get their numbers and do an incall afterwards as hotel next door is always packed and not the cleanest motel LOL.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3044951]You said she asked 800 but you didn't say what you paid. For future reference 800 is very high for onsite Casarao. 500-600 should usually do it. Not flaming you. It's a good value if it's a good time. But just for the future.[/QUOTE]For the future, I don't think I will be doing anymore Casarao sessions in-house. I plan to pull my brancas and head back to my hotel room. What price would you suggest for that, also taking into account that the girl will need transportation either back to the club or to her place? Thoughts anyone Casarao pros? What's a fair price?

[QUOTE=Gilolo;3044460]Hi everyone,

This is my first time coming to Brazil, to So Paulo and Rio. I'm here for tourism and to meet some girls.

A very pretty DJ I met on Instagram (she works as a DJ in a swingers club) offered me $250 for one hour of sex in Rio.

Is she quoting in Brazilian reais or in US dollars?

Sorry to ask, but is this a normal price for one hour of sex in So Paulo or Rio?

Thanks in advance for your answers![/QUOTE]It depends, $250 USD is on the lower end of how much you'll spend in total if you go to a boate like Scandallo in So Paulo. I'm including entry fee, room fee, one hour fee for the girl etc.

Most trips to Scandallo with just one session will set most people back at least $350 USD.

But to just have a girl come over to your place, yes $250 usd would be excessive.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3044951]You said she asked 800 but you didn't say what you paid. For future reference 800 is very high for onsite Casarao. 500-600 should usually do it. Not flaming you. It's a good value if it's a good time. But just for the future.[/QUOTE]Do for SA, do you do pay per date and if so, do you set it in chat before meeting?

[QUOTE=TheCane;3044963]For the future, I don't think I will be doing anymore Casarao sessions in-house. I plan to pull my brancas and head back to my hotel room. What price would you suggest for that, also taking into account that the girl will need transportation either back to the club or to her place? Thoughts anyone Casarao pros? What's a fair price?[/QUOTE]Once I am with a girl that I like, I seal the deal with her in terms of ST vs LT, and price, ect, then when we are about to leave the bar, I add that I want to go back my hotel because it is nicer and more comfortable than the ST hotel next door, and that I will pay for Uber back to Casarao or to her apartment afterwards. I never had a problem.

I completely agree with you; the hotel next door to Casarao is a turn off.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3044951]You said she asked 800 but you didn't say what you paid. For future reference 800 is very high for onsite Casarao. 500-600 should usually do it. Not flaming you. It's a good value if it's a good time. But just for the future.[/QUOTE]I didn't haggle. Had I known it was very high I might have countered. Good to know for future reference!

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;3016749]I searched all possible threads and I couldn't find any information on that. Does anyone has info on girl-friendliness of any of them? I'm looking at one called Hotel Augusta Boulevard. I might've stayed there 15-20 years ago but am not sure. I'm open to any of them but they got to be close to Casaro's side of Avenida Paulista. I'd appreciate whatever info anyone has on any of them. PM, if you feel more comfortable.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]This would be a great hotel to stay at if doing Casarao in terms of location as it's only a few doors away and probably a lot cleaner than the short time place next to Casarao. Does anyone know if it was ever confirmed if Hotel Casarao Boulevard is indeed guest friendly or not?

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3045071]This would be a great hotel to stay at if doing Casarao in terms of location as it's only a few doors away and probably a lot cleaner than the short time place next to Casarao. Does anyone know if it was ever confirmed if Hotel Casarao Boulevard is indeed guest friendly or not?[/QUOTE]Believe you mean Hotel Augusta Boulevard. That stretch of Augusta boulevard is like a mile long stretch of clubs and bars. Zero chance a hotel located there isn't girl friendly IMO. My first time at Casarao in 2018 my girl took me to a hotel across the street and down a block or two. From Google Maps I'm guessing it was the Pan American. They were 100% ready to check us in together. Might even of had hourly rates.

In answer to the other recent pricing question, I've found 2 x onsite rate to be a good proxy for the overnight rate. I've taken a couple girls for 1000 and one smoking hot 10 (second one ever worldwide) for 1200. There are def gems to be found there. I am sure some girls would go for 800R esp if getting towards morning hours.

As far as transport home that’s really optional. I tend to develop a connection with the girls I would take home so I want to take care of them. I don’t generally give them transport money or a tip. I just call them an uber from my account. This is nice too cuz u can see they got home safely (I of course have a burner phone with burner Uber)

I was in SP again for a couple days and decided to got to Casarao with a female friend of mine. They tried to initially charge her are $4500 at the door, and then corrected it to are $450 when we questioned it. We did not end up going in that night as the woman working the cash was being a **** about it. If we had gone in is the are $450 a consumable amount towards drinks similar to the are $400 guys pay at Scandallo, or is it a pure cover charge?

Also is there any different charges for women going to Scandallo? Or is it the same fees as guys?

[QUOTE=TheCane;3044963]For the future, I don't think I will be doing anymore Casarao sessions in-house. I plan to pull my brancas and head back to my hotel room. What price would you suggest for that, also taking into account that the girl will need transportation either back to the club or to her place? Thoughts anyone Casarao pros? What's a fair price?[/QUOTE]Almost all come back to my place for R1000. Recommend agreeing on the length of stay. Many will want to leave by 5 am as if they're just finishing their shift at your place. For R1000, I always stipulate staying until noon /1 pm.

As of late, when it's someone I've engaged previously and genuinely enjoy their company including conversation, I spend R1500 and their stay runs until it feels natural for them to leave, often 5 to 7 pm the next day.

[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15412067/American-YouTuber-floyd-wallace-arrested-Brazil.html[/URL]

Surprised no one posted this yet.

Happened in sao paulo.

These loud youtube passport bros really be thinking they can do anything with a US passport and some USD.

Two other youtube passport bros left Brazil after this happened so looks like they leaving the heat behind them.

Guess it pays to go to one of the boates so at least you know the clubs vet these girls.

Definitely wouldn't join these guys patreons or membership unless you want to be caught in their problems too.

What's the youtube channel?

[QUOTE=Bearsi;3045190][URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15412067/American-YouTuber-floyd-wallace-arrested-Brazil.html[/URL]

Surprised no one posted this yet.

Happened in sao paulo.

These loud youtube passport bros really be thinking they can do anything with a US passport and some USD.

Two other youtube passport bros left Brazil after this happened so looks like they leaving the heat behind them.

Guess it pays to go to one of the boates so at least you know the clubs vet these girls.

Definitely wouldn't join these guys patreons or membership unless you want to be caught in their problems too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bearsi;3045190][URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15412067/American-YouTuber-floyd-wallace-arrested-Brazil.html[/URL]

Surprised no one posted this yet. Happened in sao paulo. These loud youtube passport bros really be thinking they can do anything with a US passport and some USD. Two other youtube passport bros left Brazil after this happened so looks like they leaving the heat behind them. Guess it pays to go to one of the boates so at least you know the clubs vet these girls. Definitely wouldn't join these guys patreons or membership unless you want to be caught in their problems too.[/QUOTE]This is what I mean about not getting caught up in and brought down by someone else's bullshit problems. Be careful who you choose for a wingman, or even to just associate with in this hobby. Make sure you know who you're dealing with. And play your cards close to the chest until you're certain you do! Don't get rooked with guilt by association.

[QUOTE=Hanzonamura;3045152]Almost all come back to my place for R1000. Recommend agreeing on the length of stay. Many will want to leave by 5 am as if they're just finishing their shift at your place. For R1000, I always stipulate staying until noon /1 pm.

As of late, when it's someone I've engaged previously and genuinely enjoy their company including conversation, I spend R1500 and their stay runs until it feels natural for them to leave, often 5 to 7 pm the next day.[/QUOTE]If the hotel was nearby and all you wanted was similar short time session as if you were using the Casarao rooms but just wanted to avoid the potentially dirtier onsite rooms then I would think the girls would charge the same rates (400-500). This is why I would be interested in using the Hotel Augusta Boulevard for this purpose.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3045211]What's the youtube channel?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/@FOREIGNONLY/videos[/URL]

This topic has come up before so sharing info. Miruna has a 30 year old Japanese garota this week. She has bolt on and huge brasilian ass. She is an excellent performer. I grabbed her for a threesome session for three 3 hours. Every half hour switched out the second garota to be loira branca, mulata, and other energetic garotas in the Miruna lineup. Got the forista discount. Economically. No charge for my drinks as a regular. She was a deep throat queen for three hours. Kkk. She is into swingy clubs hot bar, inner club, enigma and real Lesbi action .

I found Japanese brasilian Garotas will float the through Miruna for a week or two before moving on to more expensive better paying clinicas. There are clinicas that tend to consistently have a few more Japanese garotas or half brasilian Japanese in their lineup than others. I think Vani way and a few others I don't remember.

Scandallo Saturday night is considered asian hunter night for the garotas (kkk) many asian dudes show up. I prefer Mon to Thur nights with live bands.

For Japanese Brasilian civilians Tokyo Karoke bar is packed but you need a bit of game as that place is packed like hell with a line around the block.

I had two 21 year old Japanese from scandallo in my lineup for a couple of years. We would meet late afternoon at 5 pm at Colonial or Asturias or Hotel for Lovers a two block walk from Jabaqura metro after they finished day job. She and other Japanese Garotas highly valued their privacy. So eventually lost touch. She would Show up in unflattering plain as fuck civilian clothes. Simple long skirts, conservative clothes and wearing big ass fucking glasses. But After entering the suites transform into hot sexy uninhibited she wolf kkk.

Mayumi is a lateral hire (LOL) from Clinica Pyramide, a very good clinica on the east side. I spent an hour with her in Nov 2024 and she was great. She worked there for many years. I am guessing she moved to Miruna to make more money. On my last visit to Sao Paulo in Nov 2025, Miruna charged me R330 for the hour while Pyramide charged R240 (both full, non-forista prices). Curious if anyone knows generally what the house / girl split is at these clinicas. Does the girl get 50%? 60%?

[URL]https://analytics.exclusivacam.com/[/URL]

I found this site that pulls the data from all the clinica TDs from gpguia. You can search for girls who do anal for example. I think the most useful info is that it lists all the clinicas in SP and gives WhatsApp numbers for many of them.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3044963]For the future, I don't think I will be doing anymore Casarao sessions in-house. I plan to pull my brancas and head back to my hotel room. What price would you suggest for that, also taking into account that the girl will need transportation either back to the club or to her place? Thoughts anyone Casarao pros? What's a fair price?[/QUOTE]Below Steve9696 post accurately covered typical Casarao takeout pricing for gringos. Most girls would accept 1000 are and that is what you negotiate towards (200 are depending on the girl). Some girls want to leave early between 5-7 am and some girls have no problem staying late. I adjust their price depending on when they want to leave. Most girls ask for upfront payment. I usually pay after, never upfront, but have paid half up front to couple of girls. I have also cancelled a deal after paying exit fee when the girl insisted on pre-payment.

I have never heard ask anywhere close to 2 k at Casarao in the past, but during last November trip I heard multiple 3 K asks. I just laughed and walked away when I heard those quotes. I am guessing there are some takers and that is why some girls are throwing those outrageous numbers just to see if you are one of those suckers.

Oh! There is a 150 are exit fee for taking girl to your place.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3045077]
In answer to the other recent pricing question, I've found 2 x onsite rate to be a good proxy for the overnight rate. I've taken a couple girls for 1000 and one smoking hot 10 (second one ever worldwide) for 1200. There are def gems to be found there. I am sure some girls would go for 800R esp if getting towards morning hours.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3045690]Below Steve9696 post accurately covered typical Casarao takeout pricing for gringos. Most girls would accept 1000 are and that is what you negotiate towards (200 are depending on the girl). Some girls want to leave early between 5-7 am and some girls have no problem staying late. I adjust their price depending on when they want to leave. Most girls ask for upfront payment. I usually pay after, never upfront, but have paid half up front to couple of girls. I have also cancelled a deal after paying exit fee when the girl insisted on pre-payment.

I have never heard ask anywhere close to 2 k at Casarao in the past, but during last November trip I heard multiple 3 K asks. I just laughed and walked away when I heard those quotes. I am guessing there are some takers and that is why some girls are throwing those outrageous numbers just to see if you are one of those suckers..[/QUOTE]I thought 300 - 600 was average for casa rao?

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3045690]Below Steve9696 post accurately covered typical Casarao takeout pricing for gringos. Most girls would accept 1000 are and that is what you negotiate towards (200 are depending on the girl). Some girls want to leave early between 5-7 am and some girls have no problem staying late. I adjust their price depending on when they want to leave. Most girls ask for upfront payment. I usually pay after, never upfront, but have paid half up front to couple of girls. I have also cancelled a deal after paying exit fee when the girl insisted on pre-payment.

I have never heard ask anywhere close to 2 k at Casarao in the past, but during last November trip I heard multiple 3 K asks. I just laughed and walked away when I heard those quotes. I am guessing there are some takers and that is why some girls are throwing those outrageous numbers just to see if you are one of those suckers.

Oh! There is a 150 are exit fee for taking girl to your place.[/QUOTE]If I was doing Casarao, I would not be doing any longer sessions. Instead I was thinking about booking either the Hotel Augusta Boulevard or the Pan American for a night as my base and then bring a girl back for a short time session as much like if I was using one of the Casarao rooms so same session duration. This way I figure I'll have a cleaner room since it's my hotel room and I'll save on the small Casarao room fee. The girl would only have to walk across the street if it's the Pan American or a few doors down if it's the Hotel Augusta Boulevard so I wouldn't think any extra transportation costs would apply. She would be back at Casarao in no time. I would also assume that her session fee would be the same since she's not going anywhere further nor is the session time any different if I had gone ahead to use the Casarao rooms. Please correct me if I'm mistaken by all this.

[QUOTE=JamesTpy;3045728]I thought 300 - 600 was average for casa rao?[/QUOTE]Damn! I am definitely overpaying. Is that price for a day, a week or even longer time?

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3045802]If I was doing Casarao, I would not be doing any longer sessions. Instead I was thinking about booking either the Hotel Augusta Boulevard or the Pan American for a night as my base and then bring a girl back for a short time session as much like if I was using one of the Casarao rooms so same session duration. This way I figure I'll have a cleaner room since it's my hotel room and I'll save on the small Casarao room fee. The girl would only have to walk across the street if it's the Pan American or a few doors down if it's the Hotel Augusta Boulevard so I wouldn't think any extra transportation costs would apply. She would be back at Casarao in no time. I would also assume that her session fee would be the same since she's not going anywhere further nor is the session time any different if I had gone ahead to use the Casarao rooms. Please correct me if I'm mistaken by all this.[/QUOTE]I am guessing that you have to pay the exit fee of 150 are if you take the girl anywhere than their hotel next door. I wouldn't assume that the price would be same. You have to work that out with the girl.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3045860]Damn! I am definitely overpaying. Is that price for a day, a week or even longer time?[/QUOTE]Yes from the various sources I read so far it seems that guys are able to negotiate the rates down to average 400-500 are. I don't know if this is for 30 minutes or an hour (or even if the girls keep time). Then add the 60 are for entry and 50 are if you use their hotel (again I don't know if the room is for 30 minutes or an hour either). This is the first time I'm reading anything about exit fee of 150 though

[QUOTE=JamesTpy;3045728]I thought 300 - 600 was average for casa rao?[/QUOTE]I am usually quoted 600-700 for an hour, at least earlier in the night (11 pm - 2 am) and have found most girls don't negotiate much (I. E. 500 is lowest for 60 minutes). This noted, guys will say that they regularly get girls for 300-400 . I can only assume this is 30 minutes or similar and very late. Or less popular garotas.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;3045190][URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15412067/American-YouTuber-floyd-wallace-arrested-Brazil.html[/URL]

Surprised no one posted this yet.

Happened in sao paulo.

These loud youtube passport bros really be thinking they can do anything with a US passport and some USD.

Two other youtube passport bros left Brazil after this happened so looks like they leaving the heat behind them.

Guess it pays to go to one of the boates so at least you know the clubs vet these girls.

Definitely wouldn't join these guys patreons or membership unless you want to be caught in their problems too.[/QUOTE]I saw the Red Beard Rants guy from IG in Casarao back in November. He quickly grabbed one of the girls. It totally caught me off guard seeing one of those guys in person, especially one who 'claims' that he doesn't need to pay and sells content based on that premise. Tread carefully.

[QUOTE=JamesTpy;3045012]Do for SA, do you do pay per date and if so, do you set it in chat before meeting?[/QUOTE]Steve9696 is the King of the SA realm, but in my experience it's less hassle to pay by date and best to set expectations before the meet. Maybe 20-25% of the girls aren't experienced, or are naive, and you want to be clear that you have expectations, but are willing to compensate (give them mimos / presents) them for that. I have had girls who wanted longer term relationships, and there was more 'free' sex, but they get attached and it got much messier at the end.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3045919]Steve9696 is the King of the SA realm, but in my experience it's less hassle to pay by date and best to set expectations before the meet. Maybe 20-25% of the girls aren't experienced, or are naive, and you want to be clear that you have expectations, but are willing to compensate (give them mimos / presents) them for that. I have had girls who wanted longer term relationships, and there was more 'free' sex, but they get attached and it got much messier at the end.[/QUOTE]Aww thanks Chicago. I have a done Seeking more than a few times. Including So Paulo. For the OP — as Chicago says pay per meet is fairest all around and agree the terms in chat (on WhatsApp never on the app!) Even on WhatsApp try to avoid saying money for sex. Say if u like each other you would want to spend private time and give her a gift. L(this is not strictly necessary in Brasil but good practice for seeking worldwide) expect to pay 500-1000 R for a seeking date that includes sex. Always pay at the end. Discreetly if u can. Like put it in her purse but visible when she's in the restroom cleaning up. Seeking girls are often less pro and don't want to be slapped in the face with money for sex so you try to help their conscience.

That is some serious L3 NS at level insight! Thank you sir.

[URL]https://youtu.be/rGPWW9Pjzto?si=6X0Bn9wIxQ05keMH[/URL]

Reference to HEAT is appreciated. On a tangential note, not to change the topic, but I do, it is kind of the weave, know what I mean?

Vagabundo's goal is to do Brazil Sequels! Like all of Tarantino. Or HEAT (actually there is a HEAT novel set in partly Brazil tri border region).

Now, my specific question to you is. What other Youtubers left?

Again, thank you. You are a scholar, gentleman, and true mongering super genius.

X posting this to the general thread in Brazil.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;3045190][URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15412067/American-YouTuber-floyd-wallace-arrested-Brazil.html[/URL]

Surprised no one posted this yet.

Happened in sao paulo.

These loud youtube passport bros really be thinking they can do anything with a US passport and some USD.

Two other youtube passport bros left Brazil after this happened so looks like they leaving the heat behind them.

Guess it pays to go to one of the boates so at least you know the clubs vet these girls.

Definitely wouldn't join these guys patreons or membership unless you want to be caught in their problems too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3045919]Steve9696 is the King of the SA realm, but in my experience it's less hassle to pay by date and best to set expectations before the meet. Maybe 20-25% of the girls aren't experienced, or are naive, and you want to be clear that you have expectations, but are willing to compensate (give them mimos / presents) them for that. I have had girls who wanted longer term relationships, and there was more 'free' sex, but they get attached and it got much messier at the end.[/QUOTE]My Seeking experiences have only been in Argentina as there were so many options in Brazil which therefore avoided the subscription cost.

The girls I talked to were up front about cost / time I found. One of the first girls I met was very transactional and didn't want to provide GFE and that isn't what I enjoy. I learnt from that to at least ask what the other girls were offering or enjoyed and the rest were open and up front so that improved my next meets.

Can't imagine its vastly different in Brazil.

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;3045491][URL]https://analytics.exclusivacam.com/[/URL]

I found this site that pulls the data from all the clinica TDs from gpguia. You can search for girls who do anal for example. I think the most useful info is that it lists all the clinicas in SP and gives WhatsApp numbers for many of them.[/QUOTE]Good site. Great list of Clinicas. New Year resolution is to be higher in the top 50 foristas kkk.

We have been looking around at other you tubers on our local WhatsApp group. It appears some of the other you tubers affected in some way may include.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=JlA8RjgdMnACG7wY&v=ctxN5fO_XQM&feature=youtu.be[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKoH3mWPurM[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=OkqFKU7SQsObk3ki&v=VV405GeKgGA&feature=youtu.be[/URL]

Anyway, keep your head down. Lots of Brazilian and other women feminazis are looking for reasons to f over estrangeiro touristas.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3046262]That is some serious L3 NS at level insight! Thank you sir.

[URL]https://youtu.be/rGPWW9Pjzto?si=6X0Bn9wIxQ05keMH[/URL]

Reference to HEAT is appreciated. On a tangential note, not to change the topic, but I do, it is kind of the weave, know what I mean?

Vagabundo's goal is to do Brazil Sequels! Like all of Tarantino. Or HEAT (actually there is a HEAT novel set in partly Brazil tri border region).

Now, my specific question to you is. What other Youtubers left?

Again, thank you. You are a scholar, gentleman, and true mongering super genius.

X posting this to the general thread in Brazil.[/QUOTE]

I am disappointed to have to admit that whenever I come across foreigners, especially Americans, in Brazil. I pretend to not understand and I move away as quickly as I can. Mostly it's just a disinclination to go through the expense and inconvenience of traveling in order to hang around people who aren't from the destination. This sort of thing is also in the back of my mind. I can only think of a very few instances of running into it over the years. It's just not something you want to be associated with.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3046996]We have been looking around at other you tubers on our local WhatsApp group. It appears some of the other you tubers affected in some way may include.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=JlA8RjgdMnACG7wY&v=ctxN5fO_XQM&feature=youtu.be[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKoH3mWPurM[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=OkqFKU7SQsObk3ki&v=VV405GeKgGA&feature=youtu.be[/URL]

Anyway, keep your head down. Lots of Brazilian and other women feminazis are looking for reasons to f over estrangeiro touristas.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3047056]I am disappointed to have to admit that whenever I come across foreigners, especially Americans, in Brazil. I pretend to not understand and I move away as quickly as I can. Mostly it's just a disinclination to go through the expense and inconvenience of traveling in order to hang around people who aren't from the destination. This sort of thing is also in the back of my mind. I can only think of a very few instances of running into it over the years. It's just not something you want to be associated with.[/QUOTE]I, also, am somewhat loathe to hanging out with foreigners in my destinations. That being said I have socialized with Australians on separate occasions in Europe and Asia and had lots of fun. Aussies are great gents to hang out with.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3047056]I am disappointed to have to admit that whenever I come across foreigners, especially Americans, in Brazil. I pretend to not understand and I move away as quickly as I can. Mostly it's just a disinclination to go through the expense and inconvenience of traveling in order to hang around people who aren't from the destination. This sort of thing is also in the back of my mind. I can only think of a very few instances of running into it over the years. It's just not something you want to be associated with.[/QUOTE]I hear you. This noted, I will say that 80% of the guys I've met from the ISG board are pretty solid. Hitting the clubs, not to mention dinner, is generally more fun if you have a wingman or two. It helps to split bottle fees (if you're inclined that way), plus you can have a small party (her friends, your friends). Of course some nights one feels like being a lone wolf. There is certainly more flexibility in that approach.

You have to be selective. I would for example, wingman with chicago85, anytime, good man. Had many good sorties into perola negra, and a few other zona sul clubs, from bases at the luxe hotels nearby, and classico beach club.

We know strengths and weaknesses. For example, Chicago could benefit from a soccer shirt from say German and Italian dominated porto allegre or rio grande do sul. Even in public transport, with said shirt from those areas, he would be well advised to just not talk, point to ear. Smile, flex, and carry on. Carry a bag on your front and if confronted, put a hand on bag in such a way that it could be a weapon, which is kind of carioca sign language for do you really want me to shoot you in your balls today?

I mean the simple things. Guys come here and they are billing 950 USD an hour as a former AUSA or something, and they think that means anything in rio.

The trick is that with just a subway ride from classico beach club, the prices drop to local prices, which is to say, 40 USD for pussy as good as centuarus. Beware the be atches with euro zone whatsapp numbers, they have them because they are going to ask euro zone prices. Unless they actually have a degree from some reputable college and a way to earn rich world wages, though, they are just another hoar in rio.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3047607]I hear you. This noted, I will say that 80% of the guys I've met from the ISG board are pretty solid. Hitting the clubs, not to mention dinner, is generally more fun if you have a wingman or two. It helps to split bottle fees (if you're inclined that way), plus you can have a small party (her friends, your friends). Of course some nights one feels like being a lone wolf. There is certainly more flexibility in that approach.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://youtu.be/sbsvkGG9slM?si=mFzBm12pfOuUKsyj[/URL]

This channel and this video are still up. This video about classico beach club in barra is a good guide. All his videos are actually great rio guides, even out to madureira.

The better beach club is K08, which is a serious kite surfing club. Next to classico.

Or just a barraca.

Why his channel is still up is a good question.

Several of the utubers in the passport bro category have been taken down.

Why?

One of them was arrested. Either he took it down himself which is unlikely or the Brazilian us authorities asked youtube to take it down.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;3047056]I am disappointed to have to admit that whenever I come across foreigners, especially Americans, in Brazil. I pretend to not understand and I move away as quickly as I can. Mostly it's just a disinclination to go through the expense and inconvenience of traveling in order to hang around people who aren't from the destination. This sort of thing is also in the back of my mind. I can only think of a very few instances of running into it over the years. It's just not something you want to be associated with.[/QUOTE]

Jimmyboy is back in SP, he is the best clinica guide. Tangara.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3047900][URL]https://youtu.be/sbsvkGG9slM?si=mFzBm12pfOuUKsyj[/URL]

This channel and this video are still up. This video about classico beach club in barra is a good guide. All his videos are actually great rio guides, even out to madureira.

The better beach club is K08, which is a serious kite surfing club. Next to classico.

Or just a barraca.

Why his channel is still up is a good question.

Several of the utubers in the passport bro category have been taken down..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jsaxxon1221;3044002]Got to the club around 11. Maybe around 40-50 girls and as many men. My expectations were already tempered due to it being the holidays, but there were many stunners in the house all dressed to the 9's! Being from so cal I can compare this club to Hong Kong in Tijuana only much much classier.

Right off the bat I see a group of girls hanging out by the bar make my way there and get myself a drink. One of them initiates conversation with me and it just so happens she speaks English, wonderful. A little petite red head, not smoke show hot, but definitely GND look and chill vibes. We talk for a bit and go upstairs. I believe it was 340 to the house for 1 hour, and she wanted 1200. Had an amazing time and went over the hour mark. I noticed they never inform you you're going over the hour mark. Good and bad I guess.

Returned and chilled for a bit, it was already around 2, tired and hungry, ordered some food. Struck up a convo with a few girls. Was about to call it I had this tall morena sit next to me. Chatted for a bit and said fuck it I know the 24th and 25th will be dead let's get it done. I asked how much she said 2 k and I laughed. She spoke some Spanish as do I so we went back and forth for a bit but settled on 1200 and a couple of French fries. Started off a little mechanical but she got into the rhythm of things.

Both girls BBBJ, CFS, CIM. Both girls 1200 and whatever the house fee is for 1 hour.

For lushness the house fee and girl fee are separate. House fee is set, girl fee I'm assuming is negotiable but all girls pretty firm on 250.

Vagabundo thanks for the recommendation, I'll be in Rio for the new years and I'll check that place out. Anytime I'm out of the states I always enjoy going to cigar bars and checking out what Cubans they have in stock. The Cuban market at least in the states has been a total shit show since the pandemic.

Merry Christmas gents!

More to come.[/QUOTE]340 reals for the house and 1200 reals for the girl? That's 1540 reals altogether for one girl? That's USD $286? A little bit steep for Brazil?

[QUOTE=AngmoLover;3048029]340 reals for the house and 1200 reals for the girl? That's 1540 reals altogether for one girl? That's USD $286? A little bit steep for Brazil?[/QUOTE]Also entry of 400-700 r.

[URL]https://youtu.be/q8hrTf2BKrc?si=LKmFl84uWHybU92Z[/URL]

Swedish gringo is still up, though alot of his content is like skyler derouen and other passport bros.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/@nordicinvestor[/URL]

Nordic investor is still up though none of his stuff is controversial, indeed, since I have a pair of nordic girls over, it is kind of interesting to use this as a fuk break, as one speaks English.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3047900][URL]https://youtu.be/sbsvkGG9slM?si=mFzBm12pfOuUKsyj[/URL]

This channel and this video are still up. This video about classico beach club in barra is a good guide. All his videos are actually great rio guides, even out to madureira.

The better beach club is K08, which is a serious kite surfing club. Next to classico.

Or just a barraca..[/QUOTE]

Went to Casarao yesterday Sunday 18, just writing this because it finnally happened to me. Entered the club around 10:30 Pm. Not a lot of customers but I chatted with 2 garotas in which they suggested a threesome. I declined and then went with one of them for overnight. She initially asked for 1500 however In countered with 1000. She said she could accept it. So off we went to my hotel. She asked for payment before the deed. No problem, done. Went fucking her in 4 rounds till 3 hours. And then she finally said: "Hey look I think it is going to be late, so either you finish or I'm going out". Which I told her but you accepted and told me you had no hurries. Anyways she said that no that 1000 was too LOW for her and her rate was 1500. She said either I pay 500 more so she could stay or leave. Told her to fuck off. It was 3 am when she went out. Not even 6 am morning which is considered all night.

Anybody here has any ideas or could help me. This the first time it has happened to me. All other times I asked for overnight the girls accepted and did the deed as agreed.

[QUOTE=KCK12;3048088]Went to Casarao yesterday Sunday 18, just writing this because it finnally happened to me. Entered the club around 10:30 Pm. Not a lot of customers but I chatted with 2 garotas in which they suggested a threesome. I declined and then went with one of them for overnight. She initially asked for 1500 however In countered with 1000. She said she could accept it. So off we went to my hotel. She asked for payment before the deed. No problem, done. Went fucking her in 4 rounds till 3 hours. And then she finally said: "Hey look I think it is going to be late, so either you finish or I'm going out". Which I told her but you accepted and told me you had no hurries. Anyways she said that no that 1000 was too LOW for her and her rate was 1500. She said either I pay 500 more so she could stay or leave. Told her to fuck off. It was 3 am when she went out. Not even 6 am morning which is considered all night.

Anybody here has any ideas or could help me. This the first time it has happened to me. All other times I asked for overnight the girls accepted and did the deed as agreed.[/QUOTE]Mongering Rule #7: Never pay a girl in advance. It creates a moral hazard for some girls. KKK. Thus I can only recall 2 or 3 times total when I had a Brazilian girl in my hotel room and she would not accept payment afterwards and walked out. I say Good Riddance! And on a few rare nights, I compromised and placed the cash on the dresser with the understanding that the cash was hers afterwards. But other than that, for something like +99% of my trysts with Brazilian FL's in my SP hotel room; the sessions go off without a problem or even mention of paying upfront.

[QUOTE=KCK12;3048088]Went to Casarao yesterday Sunday 18, just writing this because it finnally happened to me. Entered the club around 10:30 Pm. Not a lot of customers but I chatted with 2 garotas in which they suggested a threesome. I declined and then went with one of them for overnight. She initially asked for 1500 however In countered with 1000. She said she could accept it. So off we went to my hotel. She asked for payment before the deed. No problem, done. Went fucking her in 4 rounds till 3 hours. And then she finally said: "Hey look I think it is going to be late, so either you finish or I'm going out". Which I told her but you accepted and told me you had no hurries. Anyways she said that no that 1000 was too LOW for her and her rate was 1500. She said either I pay 500 more so she could stay or leave. Told her to fuck off. It was 3 am when she went out. Not even 6 am morning which is considered all night.

Anybody here has any ideas or could help me. This the first time it has happened to me. All other times I asked for overnight the girls accepted and did the deed as agreed.[/QUOTE]This unfortunately can happen in other mongering destinations too and since this is a freelancer you are dealing with instead of a girl who is working with a bar or brothel that is managed, you have to take the increased risk. The only thing I could suggest with such freelancers if you continue to go this route is before you commit to the session while you are still negotiating with her at the club is confirm that either no or partial payment is handed over at the beginning and final balance is not payable until end of session. If she doesn't agree, then do not take her. If she changes her mind once she gets to your room, cancel the session. Another strategy often used by others is for first time meeting a new girl, just do a short time and if it goes well, then do a long time next rather than commit to an overnight right away with someone you haven't sessioned with.

Looking forward to be going back to Brazil in a week or so. I will be staying near Parque Ibirapuera. From reading this forum, I have to give a shoutout to posts by SocratesNY, Axel Heyst, Steve 9696, and Chicago85 for helping me plan this trip.

I have been to Brazil (SP and Rio) 3 times before, but the last time was in 2017, and a lot has changed around the world since then, especially post pandemic. In my previous visits to SP, I stuck to Boates, specifically the big 3: Scandallo, Bomboa, Cafe Photo. The last time I visited Scandallo, the outside area was still under construction. Upon doing some Googling, it appears that both Bomboa and Cafe Photo have both relocated since I was last there. I have the same opinion as the vast majority of members here: Scandallo is in a tier of it's own compared to the other Boates.

This visit, I plan on doing mostly Boates. But, I also want to check out a Clinica, as well as visit Casarao. For Boates, one that catches my attention that I don't recall existing during my last visit is Gauguin club. My plan is to first visit at least two out of Bomboa / Cafe Photo / Gauguin / other options, and leave Scandallo for a different day. Because I feel once I visit Scandallo, I probably will not want to visit any other place during my stay. Which Clinica to visit and when to visit Casarao are still *.

A few questions I have. Google research has told me PEDs, aka blue / yellow pills, can be purchased at a pharmacy, no prescription needed, under the name "Tadalafila". Please advise if this information I found is incorrect.

As well, for Scandallo 400 are consumption, what counts towards that other than food / drinks? I read a post saying that vapes are available for purchase in Scandallo, which I did not know was a thing. And are bottles included in the 400 are consumption, or separate (ex: If I went to Scandallo and only bought a bottle for the whole night and nothing else, would I pay 400 are + price of bottle, or just the price of the bottle?

Will post reports of the places I visit.

[QUOTE=KCK12;3048088]Went to Casarao yesterday Sunday 18, just writing this because it finnally happened to me. Entered the club around 10:30 Pm. Not a lot of customers but I chatted with 2 garotas in which they suggested a threesome. I declined and then went with one of them for overnight. She initially asked for 1500 however In countered with 1000. She said she could accept it. So off we went to my hotel. She asked for payment before the deed. No problem, done. Went fucking her in 4 rounds till 3 hours. And then she finally said: "Hey look I think it is going to be late, so either you finish or I'm going out". Which I told her but you accepted and told me you had no hurries. Anyways she said that no that 1000 was too LOW for her and her rate was 1500. She said either I pay 500 more so she could stay or leave. Told her to fuck off. It was 3 am when she went out. Not even 6 am morning which is considered all night.

Anybody here has any ideas or could help me. This the first time it has happened to me. All other times I asked for overnight the girls accepted and did the deed as agreed.[/QUOTE]You fucked her 4 times in less than 3 hours? I guess she left early just to avoid being fucked 10 times in one night. Can you really blame her for that?

[QUOTE=RonFromSichuan;3048171]Looking forward to be going back to Brazil in a week or so. I will be staying near Parque Ibirapuera. From reading this forum, I have to give a shoutout to posts by SocratesNY, Axel Heyst, Steve 9696, and Chicago85 for helping me plan this trip.


A few questions I have. Google research has told me PEDs, aka blue / yellow pills, can be purchased at a pharmacy, no prescription needed, under the name "Tadalafila". Please advise if this information I found is incorrect.[/QUOTE]Yes Tadafila can be purchased at any pharmacy without prescription, good quality generic and pretty unexpansive compared to ie Europe.

[QUOTE=KCK12;3048088]Went to Casarao yesterday Sunday 18, just writing this because it finnally happened to me. Entered the club around 10:30 Pm. Not a lot of customers but I chatted with 2 garotas in which they suggested a threesome. I declined and then went with one of them for overnight. She initially asked for 1500 however In countered with 1000. She said she could accept it. So off we went to my hotel. She asked for payment before the deed. No problem, done. Went fucking her in 4 rounds till 3 hours. And then she finally said: "Hey look I think it is going to be late, so either you finish or I'm going out". Which I told her but you accepted and told me you had no hurries. Anyways she said that no that 1000 was too LOW for her and her rate was 1500. She said either I pay 500 more so she could stay or leave. Told her to fuck off. It was 3 am when she went out. Not even 6 am morning which is considered all night.

Anybody here has any ideas or could help me. This the first time it has happened to me. All other times I asked for overnight the girls accepted and did the deed as agreed.[/QUOTE]Dude it may not seem like it now. You did the right thing. Just let her ass leave your hotel with no drama. In the heat of the moment there are no good options for you to prevent her ass from leaving. There are recent threads on this topic with plenty of experiences, guys have shared. Heck it happens inside of boaters too deals gone south. Worse if ya ain't a fluent brasilian speaker.

I did post about my casarao refund experience. I left 400 brl on the table for the garota to take after the deed was done. 10 minutes into some toothy head told her she sucks at sucking. Her drunk ass told me keep the money left.

[QUOTE=Safado70;3048172]You fucked her 4 times in less than 3 hours? I guess she left early just to avoid being fucked 10 times in one night. Can you really blame her for that?[/QUOTE]I was thinking the same. The OP actually got a good deal. Most mongers pay 'overnight' for 2 rounds max.

Sampled my usual clnicas during the slow end of year holiday season:

Anavrin: Current talent pool is alright but nothing like the premium line-up they had same time last year. The standout was Kiara, young, shapely, tall and slender, decent massage, excellent cock worship / BJ / BLS. Yume gave the best reverse oral I've ever had. Honorable mention was Carol, a passionate MILF who enjoys what she does. I would avoid Hanna, lazy, no GFE.

Moema Prime: Remains a top destination for me for talent-value combo. Some notables:

Best experience this trip was here with Ana-Clara, skinny, soft and sensual style, extreme sex drive, very GFE and orgasmic. If we married for sex, I would have taken her home to meet mama. One of only two I repeated with.

Maria-Clara. Easily the most popular lady at this place based scanned reviews on gp-guia. Very high sexual energy and stamina. The only one who made me (literally) pop twice in the hour. I got exhausted during second round attempt and was about to go for a shower, but she pulled me back and pleaded to keep going a little bit longer. She eventually got it out of me and we both felt proud, me going home to sleep, and her likely moving on to the next dick. She gets loud in the heat of the moment.

Alissa (or Alice) - pretty, but otherwise awful in every way. Dead fish, worst experience the entire trip.

Espaco Viv: one of those (semi) legit places where you get a full massage, and negotiate extras in the room. Massage was good and comes with L1 standard. The downside was that only photo line-up was provided, which of course ended up far removed from what I actually got. Value proposition poor unless all you want is massage plus L1.

Do Patrao (formerly Unique): This was my second go-to place due to talent pool and management. The standout was Bruna, a passionate lover who obviously enjoys sex, a lot, and is orgasmic. Excellent BJ stamina and skill. Great GFE, one of the two I repeated with. One to avoid at all cost here is Daphene, one of the best natural boobs you'll ever encounter, but lazy as fuck, and annoyingly talkative. Stopped BJ every 5 seconds to say something, very irritating. I ended up giving up and moving on.

Brooklin: Next door to Patrao. Talent seemed promising but reception was unmanned for extended periods, so I left.

Brazil remains the best hobby destination for me globally. Happy mongering!

[QUOTE=RonFromSichuan;3048171]
This visit, I plan on doing mostly Boates. But, I also want to check out a Clinica, as well as visit Casarao. For Boates, one that catches my attention that I don't recall existing during my last visit is Gauguin club. My plan is to first visit at least two out of Bomboa / Cafe Photo / Gauguin / other options, and leave Scandallo for a different day. Because I feel once I visit Scandallo, I probably will not want to visit any other place during my stay. Which Clinica to visit and when to visit Casarao are still *.
[/QUOTE]I would skip Cafe Photo. It has gone down a lot in quantity and quality of the girls. Gaugin and Bomboa both are fine choices for a less overwhelming boate experience. I personally prefer GG (what many girls call Gaugin) as I hate the nickle and diming policies Bomboa has added (same with Cafe Photo) the last few years. It's short term thinking by management IMHO.

Casarao is definitely a fine option as a late night seedier meat market option. As Casarao doesn't start going until after 12:30 or 1 am, you can do a boate then Casarao if you are a night owl.

[QUOTE]
A few questions I have. Google research has told me PEDs, aka blue / yellow pills, can be purchased at a pharmacy, no prescription needed, under the name "Tadalafila". Please advise if this information I found is incorrect.[/QUOTE]Yes. Both brand name PEDs and genetics are available in pharmacies without a prescription.

[QUOTE]
As well, for Scandallo 400 are consumption, what counts towards that other than food / drinks? I read a post saying that vapes are available for purchase in Scandallo, which I did not know was a thing. And are bottles included in the 400 are consumption, or separate (ex: If I went to Scandallo and only bought a bottle for the whole night and nothing else, would I pay 400 are + price of bottle, or just the price of the bottle?
[/QUOTE]The 400 consumption at Scan is counted against all tyoes of consumption, whether it's food, drinks, bottles, cigars or vapes. If you buy a bottle for 700, then you pay 700 when you leave, as the 400 MINIMUM consumption goes toward that. If you just eat and have a drink and spend 300 on F&be, you still pay 400 when you leave.

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;3048265]I would skip Cafe Photo. It has gone down a lot in quantity and quality of girls.[/QUOTE]The last time I went to the new Cafe Photo, the presentation given by most of the girls was pretty ludicrous. Not only did I find most of them to be unattractive, but their attempt at elegance was laughable. You see, many of them were dressed in elegant gowns, but with hideous tattoos showing all over the place. Nothing elegant about that look at all. May as well just present as the trashy tutes you are. The best thing about the visit was the tasty tuna shashimi I ate there LOL! Afterwards, I headed to Casarao where there were far more desirable girls to choose from. Will I go to Cafe Photo again? During a long stay in Sampa yes, but with no high expectations, except for the shashimi LMAO!

[QUOTE=SocratesNY;3048265]
The 400 consumption at Scan is counted against all tyoes of consumption, whether it's food, drinks, bottles, cigars or vapes. If you buy a bottle for 700, then you pay 700 when you leave, as the 400 MINIMUM consumption goes toward that. If you just eat and have a drink and spend 300 on F&be, you still pay 400 when you leave.[/QUOTE]If you arrive BEFORE 7 pm.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3048268]The last time I went to the new Cafe Photo, the presentation given by most of the girls was pretty ludicrous. Not only did I find most of them to be unattractive, but their attempt at elegance was laughable. You see, many of them were dressed in elegant gowns, but with hideous tattoos showing all over the place. Nothing elegant about that look at all. May as well just present as the trashy tutes you are. The best thing about the visit was the tasty tuna shashimi I ate there LOL! Afterwards, I headed to Casarao where there were far more desirable girls to choose from. Will I go to Cafe Photo again? During a long stay in Sampa yes, but with no high expectations, except for the shashimi LMAO![/QUOTE]My Airbnb booked in March is apparently quite close to Cafe Photo but based on recent negative reports on it, I probably won't even bother visiting it. There are enough clinicas within walking distance to keep me entertained I hope.

[QUOTE=Guest19;3048346]If you arrive BEFORE 7 pm.[/QUOTE]Uh. Nope. The minimum consumption doesn't change regardless when you arrive.

If you arrive after 7 pm, they do add a R200 cover charge, which you get nothing from. Except being able to arrive later when it's more busy. But for many clients, time is money and they don't mind paying the cover charge.

[QUOTE=KCK12;3048088]Went to Casarao yesterday Sunday 18, just writing this because it finnally happened to me. Entered the club around 10:30 Pm. Not a lot of customers but I chatted with 2 garotas in which they suggested a threesome. I declined and then went with one of them for overnight. She initially asked for 1500 however In countered with 1000. She said she could accept it. So off we went to my hotel. She asked for payment before the deed. No problem, done. Went fucking her in 4 rounds till 3 hours. And then she finally said: "Hey look I think it is going to be late, so either you finish or I'm going out". Which I told her but you accepted and told me you had no hurries. Anyways she said that no that 1000 was too LOW for her and her rate was 1500. She said either I pay 500 more so she could stay or leave. Told her to fuck off. It was 3 am when she went out. Not even 6 am morning which is considered all night.

Anybody here has any ideas or could help me. This the first time it has happened to me. All other times I asked for overnight the girls accepted and did the deed as agreed.[/QUOTE]Perhaps just me, but I think you dodged a bullet and ultimately did fine. When you pay girls up front sometimes they underperform or will make a scene after the first round, just so that they can leave early. This didn't happen with you. You also got 4 rounds and 3 hours for 1000 . Not bad for a quality girl in SP. You're lucky that she just left after demanding the extra 500 r. I've had girls stay later than agreed and then decide that it was 'my fault' that I didn't tell them to leave and say that I owe them more. A girl sat on my couch for 2+ hours one time. None of us wants a crazy garota in our hotel or Airbnb breaking shit.

[QUOTE=Safado70;3048172]You fucked her 4 times in less than 3 hours? I guess she left early just to avoid being fucked 10 times in one night. Can you really blame her for that?[/QUOTE]She knew what she was getting into. Ela sabia. Told her that I loved to fuck till morning she accepted anyways. She changed her mind when she saw that she could have been paid more.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3048115]This unfortunately can happen in other mongering destinations too and since this is a freelancer you are dealing with instead of a girl who is working with a bar or brothel that is managed, you have to take the increased risk. The only thing I could suggest with such freelancers if you continue to go this route is before you commit to the session while you are still negotiating with her at the club is confirm that either no or partial payment is handed over at the beginning and final balance is not payable until end of session. If she doesn't agree, then do not take her. If she changes her mind once she gets to your room, cancel the session. Another strategy often used by others is for first time meeting a new girl, just do a short time and if it goes well, then do a long time next rather than commit to an overnight right away with someone you haven't sessioned with.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3048105]Mongering Rule #7: Never pay a girl in advance. It creates a moral hazard for some girls. KKK. Thus I can only recall 2 or 3 times total when I had a Brazilian girl in my hotel room and she would not accept payment afterwards and walked out. I say Good Riddance! And on a few rare nights, I compromised and placed the cash on the dresser with the understanding that the cash was hers afterwards. But other than that, for something like +99% of my trysts with Brazilian FL's in my SP hotel room; the sessions go off without a problem or even mention of paying upfront.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys for the suggestions and definitely going to implement those rules no pay till deed is finished and vet girls if they usually ask for payment first which is a no go.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3048667]Perhaps just me, but I think you dodged a bullet and ultimately did fine. When you pay girls up front sometimes they underperform or will make a scene after the first round, just so that they can leave early. This didn't happen with you. You also got 4 rounds and 3 hours for 1000 . Not bad for a quality girl in SP. You're lucky that she just left after demanding the extra 500 r. I've had girls stay later than agreed and then decide that it was 'my fault' that I didn't tell them to leave and say that I owe them more. A girl sat on my couch for 2+ hours one time. None of us wants a crazy garota in our hotel or Airbnb breaking shit.[/QUOTE]That is some crazy shit, glad she didn't fucking break the whole room.

For context, I've mongered in Central and South America as well as Europe and Asia, but have to say that SP totally rocks right now. Up there with Colombia IMHO. Girls on the street even are hot, and there is a femininity and sexuality in the women here that feels lost in parts of US and Europe. And the mix of races over last 400 years also appears to have helped!

Arrived at hotel in Itaim Bibi, and called garota from PhotoAcompanhantes for mid-day session. Negotiated R300 including Ubers for a 1 HR session. Photos were 8/10, but in person face was 8 (GND), but figure prolly 6 or 7. Good session overall, and an efficient unload before the main event at night.

It was Thursday night, and I wanted to save Scandallo for Fri / Sat, so went to Casarao Augusta.

I was blown away! Based on other posts ISG posts I expected more of a dive bar situation, and it was fairly upscale. Prolly 50-70 girls, with over a dozen 9's! Look one way, find one you want to engage with. And 2 minutes later another one passes by!

And there's a lower floor which is much nicer I thought. Entry was R60 and I think it covered at least one drink since they didn't charge me for it upon checkout (they have that card system that seems to work well).

After some drinks and conversations, found this gorgeous mid-twenties girl, all-natural, with an angelic face, super soft skin and great smiling and service attitude. Know that I don't speak Portuguese. So it was all Google Translate.

She asked for 800, but I knew from the forum that 500 was a good offer (and I didn't want to negotiate too hard). So off we go. Great kissing to start and she gets on her knees. Started with slow kissing the blade and balls, but before long she was warmed up and was deep-throating! Incredible view and sensations. Not holding back and full face f* Took time to do a few other positions, and then finished in missionary. Her natural BBs dangling in my face.

Showered and kissed goodbyes. Took her number and even a pic on the way out.

If Casarao was that good, how good will Scandallo be tonight?

[QUOTE=MitchNY;3048778]If Casarao was that good, how good will Scandallo be tonight?[/QUOTE]I think you are about to find out. KKK. Great 1st night report! Rock on.

[QUOTE=MitchNY;3048778]

If Casarao was that good, how good will Scandallo be tonight?[/QUOTE]Great first entry into SP!!

You should have gone to Scandello on Thursday night instead of Friday and Saturday. Thursday night is probably the best for Scandello and you would have been blown away especially since it was your first time. Friday and Saturday won't be bad but they are slower than Wednesday and Thursday but you will still be blown away. Enjoy and report back!!

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3048855]Great first entry into SP!!

You should have gone to Scandello on Thursday night instead of Friday and Saturday. Thursday night is probably the best for Scandello and you would have been blown away especially since it was your first time. Friday and Saturday won't be bad but they are slower than Wednesday and Thursday but you will still be blown away. Enjoy and report back!![/QUOTE]Hell, I've been on a Monday night and it was surprisingly good! Friday and Saturday night are more than good at Scandallo. They're great! That's usually when I go so been there, done that. My next arrival to Sampa later this year will be on a Thursday morning. You know where I will be later that evening!

It's hard to even describe how awesome this trip was. As per my recent playbook, I'the planned a mix of the girl buffet and time with a GF (Nat) whom I really enjoy and care about. And that worked perfectly, with the GF-time being the highlight by far.

I'the met Nat over a year ago at Scandallo. The last girl of my Nov 2024 trip, she rocked my world and we stayed in touch. That single magical hour led to one of my best long term experiences ever. I saw her for a three day sleepover in the spring and another in the fall and was now gearing up for the third visit of the year.

I can only describe Nat as a force of nature; like an amazing tornado of vivacious bubbly sexuality. She has the most dazzling smile, the body of a goddess, and is perpetually laughing, dancing or twerking her picture perfect ass.

As it happens, my friend Mark, whom I travel with, is equally smitten with his petite hottie and last visit we'the all become comfortable with having sex in the same room / bed. This was a slippery slope from a little drunken sex in proximity to full on voyeurism while fucking up a storm. No partner swapping, as we are both are mercilessly smitten with our respective girls, but damn it's sexy to be able to be part of a live porn scene.

So for this visit, we planned a full-on vacation with our girls to an island off the coast of Brazil called Ilhabela. We rented an oceanside villa with an infinity pool that overhung the water with a 180 degree view of the bay. It looked absolutely spectacular online, and it delivered in all respects.

Before our mini-vacay though, Mark and I kicked it off at the legendary Scandallo. Of course this is the baddest girls venue on the planet and it delivered its usual amazing experience.

As we haved played this game a lot, we are pros at fending off the many girls that will approach, and really focused on the club experience. Despite this, Mark got swept up quickly by a new girl he was quite taken with. But after some dinner as a threesome and their hour together we worked the club as two single guys on the loose.

Scan of course is just a blast always and with 200 girls to choose from you are bound to find something to your taste. We eventually found a pair of girls and decided to take them to a single room. We'the done this before here and they have a big room with two king beds.

I'the tell you all about it, but we were pretty lit and I can't remember any of the in-room time! I do have some great pics of two gorgeous girls and their shit-eating-grin partners all cuddly for the camera though, so I guess we had a great time!

Of course, horn dogs we are, after a few hours at Scan we bounced to Casarao. Casarao is a more mid-market club with lots of local guys dressed identically in black Tshirts and sneakers, so as two welll-dressed gringos we get plenty of attention.

If you have been to Casarao before the expansion you absolutely must go again. They blew out the wall behind the smoking patio and more than doubled the club space. The new area also feels very luxe and open almost Scandallo's level. And the talent likewise has moved up a notch. It's a late night club but damn it too was packed with over 120 girls which never would have been possible before.

We enjoyed just hanging and vibing and fending off sharks, when around 3:30 I took a duo of a two pixies. The main one was super cute and the friend a little less so, but a pixie duo is always fun. So off we went, agreeing 1000 for the both, there onsite.

At Casarao you go to the hotel next door. Sometimes there can be quite a wait but maybe by now less so because we went right in. They gave us a room straight ahead that was a bit bigger and had a stripper pole.

In the room the girls performed really well, giving it their all for a solid 50 minutes before coaxing a shot. And none of the CBJ BS that has become epidemic at Casarao. However at the end they tried to scam me saying it was 1000 EACH! Of course being a pro, I was having none of it. They said they will call security and I said go for it. They did and I told the guy no fucking way. He took my side and suddenly the girls were all happy and friendly like nothing happened!

(As an aside my buddy took a Casarao girl home for the night and in the morning she tried to scam him saying the 1000 R was just to go to the hotel and the sex was more. He also shut this shit down. So even tho Casarao has upgraded a lot it's still not without this kind of BS which Scandallo will not tolerate.).

After our night at the clubs, it was time to meet up with our girls. We had them come the night before the trip so that the lateness endemic to Brasileiras would not delay the morning trip to the island. This was a great bonus night, with massive quantities of sushi and sake and some great single room sex with the girls. We also got the car which meant the morning takeoff was smooth.

We got a massive Jeep Commander as Marks girl packs as if we're going for a month. But it all fit and off we go, Nat at the wheel. She loves to drive and did a great job on the four hour journey. It was great to let her take the wheel and to just enjoy the ride.

To say the villa is spectacular is an understatement. Literally overhanging the ocean with 180 degree view of the channel and all the boats passing thru. In inimitable Nat style, she hands me the camera, already recording video, and as I film, loses her flip flops and dress in one fluid motion and cannonballs into the pool! That girl! What a whirlwind of girlish enthusiasm.

The rest of us take a second to settle our things but it's only moments before we all shed our clothes and jump in naked. OMG so liberating. Mark points out that Nat is cheating, still wearing a sheer set of panties. Of course Nat being Nat, she quickly pulls them off and whooping, swings them around her head and up into the air. In a comedic moment, a gust of wind catches them, sweeps them past the edge of the infinity pool and deposits them on the rocks 30 feet below, with no apparent hope of retrieval. (We do get a fisherman to retrieve them and throw them back to us the next day. &#128540.

The time on the island is nothing short of magical. The girls are over the moon about the villa and being treated like princesses. The highlight is probably the first night where we kill two bottles of Baileys and numerous joints.

Both girls get super horny when they smoke (which is often!) so the skinny dipping turns into casual dick stroking while sitting at the patio table and then full on blowjob and sex fest in the chairs at the patio table. Both girls are really comfortable now and much watching each other fuck and suck. Goddamn it was sexy as fuck! What a great way to start the vacay.

The vacay was basically fuck, eat, drink, smoke and fuck some more! It was amazing. Our last night we have a lovely dinner at DPNY hotel which has amazing beachside dining. It's not your usual beachside dining, as there is a massive tropical storm that night. We enjoyed our dinner while watching 8 ft waves crash and beachside beds flying about! One for the books.

The other sexual highlight was after dinner that night. Back in So Paulo we had bought them a shit ton of lingerie and it was time to put it to good use. So we set up a fashion show in the living room. The girls would go downstairs and put on an outfit and come back up and give us a sexy dance show, with Nat even dancing atop the coffee table.

Although the girls had already been sexy dancing and rubbing our dicks thru our shorts, Mark has the brilliant idea after the third set to take off our shorts, while leaving our shirts on. The girls come in their sexiest outfits to date and as they start to engage, they find our naked surprise. Neither girl misses a beat! But this of course leads to passionate sex a few minutes later as they both kneel to start blowing their man.

Some truly mind blowing sex occurs, with plenty of voyeurism both ways. Marks girl has the finest ass on planet earth, no lie, and watching her fuck the bejesus out of Mark while I'm fucking Nat is absolutely legendary. At the end I have Nat in mish on the couch and we are both watching our friends fuck cowgirl and RCG on the other couch. She's on her back but with her head to the side so she can watch the action just a few feet away. The whole thing is sexy as fuck and I blow a hot load deep inside Nat.

Our plan for the rest of the week is to drop the girls and return to the girl buffet, And we do start this way, repeating at Scan with a lovely girl named Monique (Mon neek kee in the local accent). Wow. On optics this girl fucking rules. She tries to pull the CBJ shit which is rare at Scan but I can see how she gets away with it with that face. But I tell her to fuck off and let's close up shop and she caves.

This girl is SMOKING hot. But after all the fucking in the rearview, I am perilously hard to finish. We try all my usual tricks her masturbating while I wank, her sucking balls while I wank but nada. But this is how beautiful she is: I pull her up from ball sucking and am slowing massaging a tit while wanking but she is just staring into my eyes with a sexy smile and omfg she is sooo fucking gorgeous that I shoot a load just looking into her eyes! That's a first!

Of course always the hot dogs, we bounce to Casarao. The new big patio is not open, but still packed with girls late night (probably 3 ish by now? I settle on an impossibly slim hottie with school girl glasses and dazzling smile and eyes. I tell Amanda that I want to take her back to the hotel but won't fuck that night but will in the morning.

Well the best laid plans. Go to shit. She is much too hot to not fuck right then and there. So we go at it that night. She is absolutely lovely other than CBJ (always ask first at casarao or really anywhere) and despite CBJ will do balls really well. I can't pull the rabbit out of the hat that night but do when we wake the next morning. So I kinda broke my "no sex tonight" agreement and fucked her once before bed and once after, but no issue and a bubbly goodbye in the morning at the agreed rate.

That night we have a double date planned with two other girls we like. Cris and Larissa. We have some dinner at a nice Churrascaria and go to separate rooms for the sex fiesta.

Cris and I have lovely patient and caring sex and a bubble bath to end the night. She's def my number 2 in SP these days. She lacks the bubbly Nat charisma, but is a fucking dynamo in bed. She can string together Os like no other girl I've met, having 6 or 7 while riding me like a beast. I finally had to pull her off me to pound one out in mish! She's really a lovely girl and I'the be happy to make her mine, but Nat is just toooooo amazing.

After Cris leaves, we bounce to Gauguin where Marks girl works. We know she will be there and she knows we are coming, and plan to respect her job while getting to know the club, where we'the not been to before.

If you like Scan you will like Gauguin as well. Very upscale. A bit smaller basically the size of the main Scan dance club. Great grunge rock band if a bit too loud. One thing to not miss is there is an upstairs patio area that is very quiet. It's not upstairs in the main club but you go back out and upstairs at the checkin desk. It would be a great play to grab a hottie and take her up there to talk more privately.

Mark and I don't plan to take anyone but I cruise the club and run into Marks girl. She's super happy to see me and even happier Mark is here. I take her back to where Mark is surrounded by ten girls all very interested. She plants a huge mouth kiss on Mark and the girls scatter like fish as a barracuda swims in! Haha priceless.

We enjoy a little club time, but Mark bounces home and I bounce to Casarao at 2. 30. The patio is open and the vibe is lit. The upstairs is just rows of girls and no guys but downstairs the party is on. I'm thinking of taking Marks girl from the previous Casarao night when I bump into another favorite girl Carine.

Carine is one big ball of fun. She squeals and throws her arms around me. She is the epitome of a party girl. We smoke and do tequila shots and dance like fiends. She's naughty as fuck and has my hands on her tits 24/7. Except when she drops out her perfect Cee cups for me to suck on one. Grinding me and had my hand between her legs feeling her wet pussy. What a whirlwind of sexual chemistry in the club. There is no shy in this girl.

Back in the room we fuck like bunnies forever but no getting a shot off with Amanda, Cris, and Carine all in less than 24 hours and that following the Nat fuckfest. Nonetheless we have an amazing time and she is a trooper for well over an hour.

For my final night Mark is getting back with his number 1 and while I had planned to go out clubbing I already miss Nat just two days later. So we plan a final double date. It too is epic because it's like another little vacay.

We go to dinner that night just pizza, but kill two bottles of wine at dinner. Back in Marks room we have Bailey chilling and it's on! Music blasting, weed a plenty and killing the Baileys, we get a call from the front desk to turn it down! Hahaha bad boy and girls. We oblige but still have fun and some amazing sex to close the night.

Even tho we are leaving next day we have 4 pm checkout due to platinum hotel status, which is so cool. We booked the girls for a couples massage and had some coffee while we waited. (They couldn't take all four) and then spent time at the pool.

It was finally approaching 2:30 and time to close things out. We each went to our respective rooms for some private intimate sex to end the visit. As much as the group sex was fun, the intimacy with someone you really care for is hard to beat. Nat and I had an amazing time and with me on top and her working her gorgeous Dcups while cooing and looking me in the eyes I shot a hot load CIP. OMG what a way to end the trip.

And that, my friends was So Paulo and Ilhabela. Only seven girls which is low for me, but Nat and I were shacked up most of the time, and the Ilhabela vacay was chock full of lifetime memories. Adore that girl and the times we have together. I know these things are all transient and two years pretty much the max but here at one year plus still going strong and can't wait to see her again.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3048855]Great first entry into SP!!

You should have gone to Scandello on Thursday night instead of Friday and Saturday. Thursday night is probably the best for Scandello and you would have been blown away especially since it was your first time. Friday and Saturday won't be bad but they are slower than Wednesday and Thursday but you will still be blown away. Enjoy and report back!![/QUOTE]Agree. Great write up. The difference between prior reports and your experience at Casarao is the massive patio / club area is new downstairs in Nov or Dec. This more than doubles the size of the club. And the girl quality shot up too as it's moved up market some. As per my report, more scams and CBJ at Casarao than Scan but if u know how to navigate it it is a great venue and waaaay better than before. Anyone who has been before needs to go again. I believe the big area is only open Wed-Sat.

Also suggest you try Gauguin. For classiness it's a step up from Casarao but not quite Scandallo. And the live band was super good but beware if you don't like loud it is the loudest of the three primary clubs. Gauguin also has the distinction of being in the southwest part of the city which can be handy if you stay in that part of town.

[QUOTE=MitchNY;3048778]For context, I've mongered in Central and South America as well as Europe and Asia, but have to say that SP totaIt was Thursday night, and I wanted to save Scandallo for Fri / Sat,

I was blown away! Based on other posts ISG posts I expected more of a dive bar situation, and it was fairly upscale. Prolly 50-70 girls, with over a dozen 9's!

If Casarao was that good, how good will Scandallo be tonight?[/QUOTE]For first time visits to Scandallo the initial hit, initial high for me was when the elevator doors open for the very first time.

The elevators opened and whoosh the scent of perfume, the playboy bunnies victoria secrets models sitting on the couch on the left, coffee bar on the right.

Scented perfume ahead through the next set of doors, the mind racing all these fucking hotties smiling at me are available now?? Bingo. Sold. I never forgot the first time at Scandallo. Back then $800 brl a session was the top of the garota market kkkk savor & enjoy the first time.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3048860]Hell, I've been on a Monday night and it was surprisingly good! Friday and Saturday night are more than good at Scandallo. They're great! That's usually when I go so been there, done that. My next arrival to Sampa later this year will be on a Thursday morning. You know where I will be later that evening![/QUOTE]Agreed. But Wed and Thurs are the best nights. The most girls and it is a pure party atmosphere. I can't wait. Going to be in SP on Tuesday and I am pumped!!

[QUOTE=KCK12;3048735]She knew what she was getting into. Ela sabia. Told her that I loved to fuck till morning she accepted anyways. [/QUOTE]It is possible that she understood it differently than what you meant. Instead of f* till morning, negotiate for 8 shots until 6 AM next time to remove ambiguity.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3048944]Agreed. But Wed and Thurs are the best nights. The most girls and it is a pure party atmosphere. I can't wait. Going to be in SP on Tuesday and I am pumped!![/QUOTE]I would add Tuesday to the best nights. I have seen many times Tuesday being way better than Wednesday.

Hello gents,

Was curious as to what you all do for mongering specifically during carnaval in SP. I'm in SP often and experienced carnaval once with a woman I was dating from Pinheiros. We had a blast. I was thinking of coming for carnaval solo.

Ii know the usual haunts of course and I'm assuming Scandallo will be more packed than usual?

Just curious on others experience in SP during carnaval.

[QUOTE=OGC81;3049142]Hello gents,

Was curious as to what you all do for mongering specifically during carnaval in SP. I'm in SP often and experienced carnaval once with a woman I was dating from Pinheiros. We had a blast. I was thinking of coming for carnaval solo.

Ii know the usual haunts of course and I'm assuming Scandallo will be more packed than usual?

Just curious on others experience in SP during carnaval.[/QUOTE]I will be in SP again this year in Carnaval, not the best time for mongering, lots of places closed, expecting it to be low also in scandallo lot's of girls go to carnaval destinations.

[QUOTE=OGC81;3049142]Hello gents,

Was curious as to what you all do for mongering specifically during carnaval in SP. I'm in SP often and experienced carnaval once with a woman I was dating from Pinheiros. We had a blast. I was thinking of coming for carnaval solo. I know the usual haunts of course and I'm assuming Scandallo will be more packed than usual? Just curious on others experience in SP during carnaval.[/QUOTE]I was in Sampa last year for Carnaval, and left saying that I would never do that again! Although Scandallo and Casarao were still good, attendance and energy at all the other nightclubs I visited was way, way down. Was my overall worst experience in Sao Paulo for mongering. I have never mongered in Rio during Carnaval, and I won't do it again in Sampa in order to have a much better outcome with greater choice. Don't go during Carnaval if you can avoid it. That's my advice based on my own personal experience in 2025. If you want to enjoy all of the activities around Carnaval OK. But, I did not find it to be an optimal time for mongering at night outside of Scandallo and Casarao. Now, daytime mongering at the clinicas might be a different story, but I'm mostly a nighttime guy, so maybe someone else can weigh in on the clinicas during Carnaval versus other times of the year.

A couple of years back I was in SP for 6 weeks which included Carnival week. I think I posted a trip report on it. One of my main observations was that Carnival SP is no big deal unless one seeks it out. There might have been a few less boate girls around than the week preceding or the week after Carnival, but the difference was hardly noticeable since there were still plenty of attractive girls about. I also had my 2 favorite repeat Scandallo girls to keep me happy, so I had a great time during Carnival week and I recommend flying down.

P.S. SP hotel prices are lower during Carnival.

[QUOTE=OGC81;3049142]Hello gents,

Was curious as to what you all do for mongering specifically during carnaval in SP. I'm in SP often and experienced carnaval once with a woman I was dating from Pinheiros. We had a blast. I was thinking of coming for carnaval solo.

Ii know the usual haunts of course and I'm assuming Scandallo will be more packed than usual?

Just curious on others experience in SP during carnaval.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;3049194]I was in Sampa last year for Carnaval, and left saying that I would never do that again! Although Scandallo and Casarao were still good, attendance and energy at all the other nightclubs I visited was way, way down. Was my overall worst experience in Sao Paulo for mongering. I have never mongered in Rio during Carnaval, and I won't do it again in Sampa in order to have a much better outcome with greater choice. Don't go during Carnaval if you can avoid it. That's my advice based on my own personal experience in 2025. If you want to enjoy all of the activities around Carnaval OK. But, I did not find it to be an optimal time for mongering at night outside of Scandallo and Casarao. Now, daytime mongering at the clinicas might be a different story, but I'm mostly a nighttime guy, so maybe someone else can weigh in on the clinicas during Carnaval versus other times of the year.[/QUOTE]Well, you are 100% entitled to your opinion on this, but I don't get it. If the big 3 boates (Scandallo, Bomboa, & Casarao) are all doing pretty good during the week and the Clinicas are open with a majority of their girls on hand; what's the problem? And if you have a few favorite repeat boate girls on call, if hotel rates are lower than average, and it's no wait time in the most popular restaurants in town: all this makes Carnival week in SP a slightly above average time to be there. In fact, I will probably be arriving in SP on Feb. 14th. Rock on!

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3049244]Well, you are 100% entitled to your opinion on this, but I don't get it. If the big 3 boates (Scandallo, Bomboa, & Casarao) are all doing pretty good during the week and the Clinicas are open with a majority of their girls on hand; what's the problem? And if you have a few favorite repeat boate girls on call, if hotel rates are lower than average, and it's no wait time in the most popular restaurants in town: all this makes Carnival week in SP a slightly above average time to be there. In fact, I will probably be arriving in SP on Feb. 14th. Rock on![/QUOTE]Hey Axel! Sorry I missed you this visit. I want to add Gauguin to the "top" list and in fact would put Bomboa down a bit for its petite size and odd restaurant layout. With the big expansion at Casarao and commensurate girl upgrade my ranking would go:

Scandallo.

Casarao / Gauguin. Tie depending what vibe you want.

Bomboa.

As always ymmv.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3049244]Well, you are 100% entitled to your opinion on this, but I don't get it. If the big 3 boates (Scandallo, Bomboa, & Casarao) are all doing pretty good during the week and the Clinicas are open with a majority of their girls on hand; what's the problem? And if you have a few favorite repeat boate girls on call, if hotel rates are lower than average, and it's no wait time in the most popular restaurants in town: all this makes Carnival week in SP a slightly above average time to be there. In fact, I will probably be arriving in SP on Feb. 14th. Rock on![/QUOTE]Did you read what I said? I essentially said that if you're OK with Scandallo & Casarao, (plus if you want to engage in Carnaval activities), then you're good to go. When I'm in Sampa, I hit a [B]lot[/B] of different clubs, and I found all the rest of them to be pretty dead. So, the problem is that if you want a good time at all the rest of the night places, then based on my experience in 2025, you very well may be disappointed. That's the problem I found. I couldn't 100% roll the way I like to roll. So, if somebody likes to roll the way I do, then just keep my experience a year ago in mind. If you're someone who has favorites on speed dial cool. I don't do that as I rarely repeat and always am seeking new booty. Additionally, I said that if you're interested in the clinicas, then ask somebody else because I don't hit those a lot. I'm a night club guy. Regarding Gaugin, I was the first one here to write an extensive report about that club, and my last trip to Sampa was my first time going there. Although it too was a little slow, it was good enough that I will be going again when I return. Enjoy your trip in February, and write up a report!

[QUOTE=TheCane;3049434] When I'm in Sampa, I hit a [B]lot[/B] of different clubs, and I found all the rest of them to be pretty dead. So, the problem is that if you want a good time at all the rest of the night places, then based on my experience in 2025, you very well may be disappointed. <snip> Regarding Gaugin, I was the first one here to write an extensive report about that club, and my last trip to Sampa was my first time going there. Although it too was a little slow, it was good enough that I will be going again when I return. Enjoy your trip in February, and write up a report![/QUOTE]Yeah, I know you like to hit a variety of clubs, some less frequented and reported on than others. I saved your "Getting Freaky in Floripa" post just in case I find myself Florianopolis someday. KKK. So what SP Boates were you referring to in your post?

I am looking forward to my upcoming SP trip. It was a spur of the moment thing to book a flight and come on down. I plan to continue seeing a lot of my favorite girl. On my last 2 trips, Valeria has effectively become my when-in-town mistress, KKK, and I wound up seeing her almost every night. This radical, new development has severely limited my Boate action, and I do miss the boates, but I make up for it with semi daily afternoon clinica hops and the nightly sex with my gal is phenomenal considering how long we have known each other and how frequently we shag. I am not tired of her yet.

But I will go to Scandallo a least a couple of times while on the trip and I will report back. The last 2 times I was at Scandallo, I scored really well with 2 beautiful brancas, one was a former Azul stewardess, and I wound up barebacking both brancas without negotiation or additional tip.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3049471]Yeah, I know you like to hit a variety of clubs, some less frequented and reported on than others. I saved your "Getting Freaky in Floripa" post just in case I find myself Florianopolis someday. KKK. So what SP Boates were you referring to in your post?

I am looking forward to my upcoming SP trip. It was a spur of the moment thing to book a flight and come on down. I plan to continue seeing a lot of my favorite girl. On my last 2 trips, Valeria has effectively become my when-in-town mistress, KKK, and I wound up seeing her almost every night. This radical, new development has severely limited my Boate action, and I do miss the boates, but I make up for it with semi daily afternoon clinica hops and the nightly sex with my gal is phenomenal considering how long we have known each other and how frequently we shag. I am not tired of her yet.

But I will go to Scandallo a least a couple of times while on the trip and I will report back. The last 2 times I was at Scandallo, I scored really well with 2 beautiful brancas, one was a former Azul stewardess, and I wound up barebacking both brancas without negotiation or additional tip.[/QUOTE]Last Carnaval when I was in Sampa, both Scandallo and Casarao were hitting on all cylinders. But the following smaller, mainline boates were slow to just plain dead: Guagin; Bomboa; Cafe Photo; Connection Nightclub; Bahamas Hotel Club. I attributed that to the fact that Carnaval was on. There were a few other lesser known clubs I considered, but I decided to not even bother. If the more popular ones were dead, then those were likely to be dead too. Scandallo and Casarao were there to save the day thank God! Otherwise, it would have been a complete bust. I did hit The Palms once in the daytime, and although the selection was small, I still had a good experience (excluding the lack of hot water in the shower). Speaking of repeats, my phone contacts are full of numbers from tutes from all over the world including Brazil LOL! I don't know why I even get all those numbers though because I rarely ever call those hoors hahaha! There are some attractive brancas in there who I know would be happy to see me again. But I don't know. I usually just don't call them once I get there. Because I get down there, and I just get wrapped up with finding and tapping new booty. I don't know. If I get down there the next time and things don't go well, maybe I will go ahead and contact "Jessica", "Luna", and "Karen" for some more half and half PSE / GFE action. I don't know. We shall see. We shall see!

I understand that there are some Bradesco ATM's at Guarulhos airport. Can anyone confirm that they are open on Saturdays with the normal R2,500 limit like at a bank branch? I am flying into Guarulhos four Saturdays from now and want to get some cash right away but I think all Bradesco ATM's in the city center are closed on Saturdays. So the airport may be my only option.

[QUOTE=Tricksta;3049492]I understand that there are some Bradesco ATM's at Guarulhos airport. Can anyone confirm that they are open on Saturdays with the normal R2,500 limit like at a bank branch? I am flying into Guarulhos four Saturdays from now and want to get some cash right away but I think all Bradesco ATM's in the city center are closed on Saturdays. So the airport may be my only option.[/QUOTE]This is only my recent experience in sao paulo. Lately a bunch of bradesco banks have started to close their lobby ATM on weekends and late night hours & brasilian holidays. A few of my goto Bradesco ATM favorites have shut down or consolidated with other locations. My options for late evenings & weekend has been santander ATM inside shopping lojas or malls. The santader lobby ATM have been opened late night up to 10 pm in some neighborhoods. I just take uber from GRU to Ibirapuera Shopping visit the Sandanter ATM to withdraw 2000 brl then hop back in the Uber to check in to apartment in Moema. The malls are opened weekends Sat & Sun until 10 pm. I think Bradesco is fast becoming week day banking due to security shit. There is a easy breezy 10 min walk from shopping ibirapuera to the Mon to Fri Bradesco ATM lobby in Moema. Guys have posted the directions.

Personally I don't trust none of those mofo ATM or bank ATM at GRU or CGH airports. Lots of skimmers caught on instagram videos. Guys may have different experiences. My favorite late night hour Bradesco ATM lobby is in Rio, Centro are. Sen. Dantas, 61 - Centro, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 20031-202, Brazil adjacent Quartel General the Polcia Militar do Estado do. Kkk there is not an ATM in scandallo or Casarao many of the garotas use Mercado Libre Pay, InfinitePay and Stripe, that accepts international credit cards. i have used those without issues on a card. i even refuted a charge to a clinica because i forgot the stupid name the clinica uses for credit card transactions .the bank reversed the amount from their bank account. they used the name of fucking nearby petrol station gas station repair shop. instead of beauty salon or restaurant or innocuous name. it took a few days to resolve when i figured it the charge was legit but using a stupid ass transaction name.kkk all good in the end.

[QUOTE=Tricksta;3049492]I understand that there are some Bradesco ATM's at Guarulhos airport. Can anyone confirm that they are open on Saturdays with the normal R2,500 limit like at a bank branch?So the airport may be my only option.[/QUOTE]It's not in the bank so I don't see how they can be closed. It's at terminal 2 at mid-level. You walk toward the direction of terminal 3 and look up. It's on the left of the SUBWAY restaurant. The SUBWAY sign is obvious. There are 4 ATMs.

[QUOTE=OGC81;3049142]
Just curious on others experience in SP during carnaval.[/QUOTE]I don't see much difference in Sao Paulo. I went to quite a few blocos, the first image. They are daytime activity and tiny when compared to the other famous ones.

The second image is at Salvador. It went on basically from 2 PM to 2 AM for no less than 10 days, more than 2 miles long and more than one circuit that they rotate the performers between them

I do not know if everyone has this figured out but I keep seeing threads about ATM and cash so probably will be helpfull.

As a gringo one of my problems was being able to use PIX (th instant payment system in Brasil) to book girls and not having the problem of having to go to ATMs, pay stupid taxes, daily limits or credit card fees.

Recently I found this [URL]astropay.com[/URL] app / credit card that does PIX and the few transactions I have done were at a very decent exchange rate, much better than exchange offices.

I will be in SP from the 12 to the 20th next Feb, thinking of going one or two nights to Scandallo if anyone wants to meet up for drinks and chat while we check the girls please DM me, I also speak decent Portuguese.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3049055]I would add Tuesday to the best nights. I have seen many times Tuesday being way better than Wednesday.[/QUOTE]I've always been confused why it's more popular during the week than the weekend, is that something to do with a lot of the clientele being rich guys or cheating on their girlfriends or something? I don't get it. I'm fine with it. I just don't get why it's a weekday spot.

There's an ATM located in the GRU terminal 3 baggage claim before you exit customs. I feel it's pretty safe. I wouldn't use any of the ATMs outside security. I'd just as soon put my account information on a billboard someplace.

In Sao Paulo at the moment and have been doing the rounds at Prime Moema and Clinica do Patrão. This is my fourth trip to Brazil and having mongered in many other popular destinations around the globe, I am yet to find a place that comes close. Brazilian providers have this ability to give you a girlfriend experience if that's your mood or give you a PSE if that's your vibe and some can easily switch between the two during a session. I'm wired to value service more than just looks, of course I want both but would rather spend my money on a 6-7 in looks / body that provides service that's 9-10 as opposed to an 8-9 whose service is 6-7. Of course, in Brazil you can find 8-9's that will match the high level of service, but you need to be ready to budget for near western world prices vs $50.

I have been to Scandalo once but that was a couple of years back and it was during Christmas / new year time frame and though the talent was pretty good, I wasn't quite blown away by it. It was also raining that evening so the outdoor area wasn't in use so maybe it's time for me to revisit.

On past trips I've used seeking and met some pretty ladies with the experience generally pretty good but not comparable to the service I get in the Clinicas. The key to the Clinicas is to do your research on gpguia and you will not be disappointed. I'm sure some folks don't want to be the nth person whose cum the provider guzzled that day and not do I, so generally I try to make early bookings, but even if I am the 5th guy she's servicing that day, no biggie as in this hobby it's all good.

Will be sharing my experiences with the ladies I've enjoyed so far over the next few days and just want to give a shout out to all the contributors on this forum that make it a treasure trove for the readers.

[QUOTE=JamesTpy;3049610]I've always been confused why it's more popular during the week than the weekend, is that something to do with a lot of the clientele being rich guys or cheating on their girlfriends or something? I don't get it. I'm fine with it. I just don't get why it's a weekday spot.[/QUOTE]The place gets packed on Fridays and Saturdays too. Believe me! Like I've said, that's mainly when I go. The explanation is guys are spending the weekend with family or something. But I'm telling you. There are plenty of other guys, Brazilians and everybody, there on the weekends too. Believe this!

[QUOTE=JamesTpy;3049610]I've always been confused why it's more popular during the week than the weekend, is that something to do with a lot of the clientele being rich guys or cheating on their girlfriends or something? I don't get it. I'm fine with it. I just don't get why it's a weekday spot.[/QUOTE]Exactly. 95% of the guys who go to Scandallo are local rich businessmen, who are older and have families. They probably tell their families.

Wives they are working late or going to work event / dinner. For them, weekend are for family. Casarão attract a younger crowd, so it's busier on Fri. And sat and open on Sundays.

[URL]https://www.kamaww.com/[/URL]

Website gives daily lineup of girls of 15 CLínicas. Apparently it was set up for guys who are concerned of having a bunch of clinicas contacts on their phone's WhatsApp.

[QUOTE=JamesTpy;3049610]I've always been confused why it's more popular during the week than the weekend, is that something to do with a lot of the clientele being rich guys or cheating on their girlfriends or something? I don't get it. I'm fine with it. I just don't get why it's a weekday spot.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;3049679]Exactly. 95% of the guys who go to Scandallo are local rich businessmen, who are older and have families. They probably tell their families.

Wives they are working late or going to work event / dinner. For them, weekend are for family. Casaro attract a younger crowd, so it's busier on Fri. And sat and open on Sundays.[/QUOTE]Adding to what SamaRiding said.

A part of Scandallo clientele is business people who work during week and leave before weekend, which also contributes to less busy Friday and Saturday.

[QUOTE=JamesTpy;3049610]I've always been confused why it's more popular during the week than the weekend, is that something to do with a lot of the clientele being rich guys or cheating on their girlfriends or something? I don't get it. I'm fine with it. I just don't get why it's a weekday spot.[/QUOTE]Yes local businessmen but also the girls some maintain a life where no one knows what they are doing at night and the weekend is also for family and friends.

Arrived at Gauguin Club shortly after 8:30 PM. As it was my first time here, I asked the workers a rundown on how things work. Luckily, a few of them spoke English which made things easier. Cover charge was 120 real, all consumable. Onsite rooms are 220 reals for one hour. The club has 3 floors. The first floor contains reception and the Main Club disco area, which opens at 9 PM. The second floor is where they have bands / singers perform, and is where the smoking area is located. And the last floor contains the on-site rooms.

Reception asked me for ID, I gave them my driver's license, they gave me a paper wristband with ID #. When ordering food / drinks, the waiters will ask for your ID #, which is how they keep track of your total consumption. Because it was not yet 9 PM, I headed upstairs to the second floor. There was a band playing, around 30-40 girls, and maybe 10-15 guys. I got a caipirinha at the bar, and sat down at a table and took in the scene. My plan was to take things slow and scope out the talent, rather than go with a girl right away. As well, I wanted to control my drinking as I have a tendency to make unwise financial decisions when under the influence.

There were 3 girls that caught my attention, but wanted to wait until the main area downstairs opened up before making any moves. Interestingly, I thought the female singer who was performing was very attractive. If she worked at Gauguin, I would have interviewed her. Most of the girls were just sitting around, there were a few that were talking to guys. I noticed that I was overdressed compared to most of the guys there who were wearing t shirt, jeans, and casual sneakers.

At 9:15, I finished my caipirinha and headed downstairs to the main club area. It has a disco club type atmosphere, with a DJ playing music, and fish tanks behind the bar area. I saw what appeared to be a small shark in one of the fish tanks. As board member Steve 9696 has mentioned, the music was loud. I noticed a bunch of girls who I did not see upstairs before. The number of girls I wanted to interview went from 3 to over 5. I can speak beginner Portuguese, but it was hard to hear over the music, so I ended up using Google Translate for 95% of my conversations that night, even for sentences I knew. I ordered a second caipirinha and took in the scene.

I was approached by a handful of girls, but none were the ones that originally caught my attention. Nonetheless, I entertained them. All the girls I asked quoted me a price of 1000 reals to go upstairs, with the exception of one girl who wanted an extra 500 for BBBJ. I did a double take as I was not sure I heard her correctly.

Eventually, I approached one of the girls on my radar. I noticed her when I ordered my first drink. She was sitting at a table with a friend. I was trying to wait until her friend left before going up to her, but that didn't happen. So I just went up and introduced myself. Her name was Jade, she is a Morena and is 24 years old. Zero English. She has a girl next door look to her and was wearing a green dress that covered her stomach. She had a few visible tattoos. I invited her upstairs for a drink where it was quieter and we could have some more privacy, as her friend was there the whole time we were talking.

Jade ordered a watermelon gin, which arrived in a huge fishbowl. It was twice the size of my caipirinha. She claimed it was her first day working at the club. I did not believe her as I have heard that line many times before, but I went along with it. I inquired about going upstairs and she quoted me 1000 real but was open to negotiation. I don't like to negotiate back and forth as I feel it kills the vibe, so I countered with 800 real, to which she said ok. She asked for payment upfront. I asked if it was ok I pay at the end, she was hesitant at first but after a minute she said ok. Ironing out the details, I made sure the price included BBBJ and GFE, to which she said yes. She wanted to go up now, but I said I needed a few minutes to mentally prepare myself. So I set a timer on my phone for 5 minutes. I excused myself to the bathroom, came back, and when the timer was up, we took the elevator upstairs.

One thing I found interesting is unlike Scandallo, at Gauguin you pay for the room before you enter, rather than afterwards. The room was basic but clean. It had a bed and tablet that could play music and change the color of the lighting in the room. There was an adjoining bathroom with toilet, sink, and shower. Included were towels, bar soap, and two condoms.

The session was overall good. We started off in the shower together. I was originally a little concerned because the dress she was wearing covered her entire torso, but her body was nice. Amazing bikini tan lines, natural be cups, huge nipples. After drying off, we went to the bed and started the real fun. She started off with BBBJ and light BLS, then I returned the favor with FIV and DATY. Put on the condom and started in Quattro, which she said was her favorite position. I thrusted a few too many times as I passed the point of no return and finished inside the condom. My first session of a trip always seems to end in me finishing a lot earlier than I want. Took a shower again together, and spent the rest of the time cuddling in bed and talking. We exchanged contact info for a potential future meetup.

It had been a while since I had eaten (excluding DATY, kkk), so I decided to order some food at the bar. Chicken with fries, farofa, and a side salad, Guarana Antarctica as a drink. The food was mediocre, but I just wanted some food in my system. While I was eating, I was approached by this girl who was originally on my radar. I invited her to sit next to me. Her name is Camila, and she is 21 years old. Long dark brown hair, sleeve of tattoos on her right arm. She was persistent in trying to get me to session with her, even after telling her I had just sessioned 10 minutes ago. At one point, she started spoon feeding me in an attempt to get me to eat faster so we could go up. She even offered me a discounted price of 700 reals to go up right then and there. I politely declined multiple times, telling her I would if I didn't go up already. I exchanged contact info with her and told her I would message her.

After finishing my food, it was almost 1 AM and I was tired so decided to head back to my hotel instead of going to Bomboa, which was my original plan. I headed downstairs to reception to pay my bill, which ended up being 310 reals, which I paid in cash. The doorman smiled at me and said "ate amanha" (until tomorrow) as I left.

Total Damage: 310 consumption + 800 girl + 220 room = 1330.

Final thoughts:

I was debating whether to go to Cafe Photo, Gauguin, or Bomboa. Based on the input from board members SocratesNY and The Cane, I decided to not go to Cafe Photo and instead go to Gauguin. I think I made the right decision. My original plan was to go to both Gauguin and Bomboa, but that did not happen as I spent more time than expected there.

Overall, I had a great time at Gauguin Club. At peak time, after 10 pm, there were 50-60 girls. Quality of girls I thought was good, as was the variety available. Gauguin is not Scandallo, but it is a good alternative if you are looking for a less overwhelming boate experience. I would definitely return.

[QUOTE=RonFromSichuan;3049787]One thing I found interesting is unlike Scandallo, at Gauguin you pay for the room before you enter, rather than afterwards. Overall, I had a great time at Gauguin Club. At peak time, after 10 pm, there were 50-60 girls. Quality of girls I thought was good, as was the variety available. Gauguin is not Scandallo, but it is a good alternative if you are looking for a less overwhelming boate experience. I would definitely return.[/QUOTE]Although, I like "Cantonese" better haha! No serious, I think you capture the essence of Gauguin perfectly. It is a nice, upscale alternative to Scandallo that is less overwhelming than both Scandallo and Casarao. Gauguin is a club that deserves good ratings, and now I see it getting them. Great! Regarding paying beforehand, I could swear that at Scandallo you also have to pay for both the room and the girl before going to do the deed. Could just be aging hehe, but I've been there enough times that I ought to remember that level of detail. Oh well! Good detailed report!

Thanks Ron for that great report. Detailed. Eloquent. Everything a good FR needs. And glad to see the confirm that Gauguin is a solid choice one step down from the Queen herself Scandallo.

If you haven't tried Casarao I recommend it as th follow on club vs Bomboa. The new patio is open Wed-Sat and it has a lit party vibe. Plus it's a late night club. Really just rolling at 1 am when you were leaving GG and still rolling hard at 5:00 AM.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3049807]Although, I like "Cantonese" better haha! No serious, I think you capture the essence of Gauguin perfectly. It is a nice, upscale alternative to Scandallo that is less overwhelming than both Scandallo and Casarao. Gauguin is a club that deserves good ratings, and now I see it getting them. Great! Regarding paying beforehand, I could swear that at Scandallo you also have to pay for both the room and the girl before going to do the deed. Could just be aging hehe, but I've been there enough times that I ought to remember that level of detail. Oh well! Good detailed report![/QUOTE]At Scan the room is paid after. There is a charge for going over the hour also. As far as girls 90% I've been with take money after. And the ones that want it before have sometimes been problematic (like CBJ! Boo). So def best to pay both after. If you pay the girl by card at the hotel they charge 10% and no choice but pay up front.

Even tho u pay hotel after u do checkin ar the hotel desk first and they scan the girls card. So thats prob what u are remembering. At least thats what I recall. But I’m usually drunk as fuck soooo…

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3049830]...... As far as girls 90% I've been with take money after. And the ones that want it before have sometimes been problematic (like CBJ! Boo). So def best to pay both after. .....[/QUOTE]Further to Steve9696's point, I'd say 3/4 of the time if a girl demands payment upfront, the session has been bad for me. It's to the point now where I'll end it right there and cut my losses (unless they demur very quickly). I'd rather minimize losses to just eating the sunk room cost than the amount for the girl as well.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3049830]At Scan the room is paid after. <snip> If you pay the girl by card at the hotel they charge 10% and no choice but pay up front.

Even tho u pay hotel after u do checkin ar the hotel desk first and they scan the girls card. So thats prob what u are remembering. At least thats what I recall. But Im usually drunk as fuck soooo[/QUOTE]As Steve points, customers do not pay for the room at check-in time. The hotel receptionist will, however, ask if the customer wants to put his girl's fee on his credit card (for a 10% charge). If the offer is accepted, your card is charged, and the receptionist will give you the cash in front of the girl for whatever amount requested. The simple workaround for this is to simply decline the CC offer at check-in time and later request it at checkout time.

I usually bring around 1400 Br to Scandallo or 1100 Br to Bomboa figuring that will be more than enough cash to take care of 1 girl and charge everything else on the CC. But on those 2-fer nights, yeah, I do not hesitate to avail myself of the hotel CC offer and I pay the 10% fee.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3049926]As Steve points, customers do not pay for the room at check-in time. The hotel receptionist will, however, ask if the customer wants to put his girl's fee on his credit card (for a 10% charge). If the offer is accepted, your card is charged, and the receptionist will give you the cash in front of the girl for whatever amount requested. The simple workaround for this is to simply decline the CC offer at check-in time and later request it at checkout time.

I usually bring around 1400 Br to Scandallo or 1100 Br to Bomboa figuring that will be more than enough cash to take care of 1 girl and charge everything else on the CC. But on those 2-fer nights, yeah, I do not hesitate to avail myself of the hotel CC offer and I pay the 10% fee.[/QUOTE]Yeah I've tried that approach also to limit spending. But as they say:

The best laid plans of mice and men…




Result in a 10% surcharge. 😝

Last night was a sausage fest. It was absolutely packed and the men outnumbered women at least two to one. After finding someone, discovered the lobby of the hotel next door was one large waiting room. I decided to just take mine back to my hotel.

This is my report trying to do daytime mongering instead of the usual boates and clubs at night. Feeling tired and due to the last experience in Casarao I decided to try daytime to see it it was better than the usual experience. Oh boy I was going to be surprised at how great I enjoyed the experience. I started researching for Prives at SP at another brazilian forum. There was one witch caught my attention. Located in Villa Mariana, 10 minutes walking from the metro which is perfect because I like to travel in CPTM & Metro (great combo). Started chatting with the number provided and the manager on turn asked which girl I wanted to reserve. I choosed a big titted 20's brunnette that had a big ass. I walked over an unsuspecting yellow house wondering if it was the right call, heard some very load moans so I felt right in place.

When the door opened an old man asked me which girl I had a reservation. Asked for the big titted brunnete named Luana. She then came downstairs for me and my goodness. She had some INSANE boobs. She was dressed with a tight miniskirt which accentuated her big ass. Once upstairs she confirmed with me if it was 1 h. Which I agreed. The room was clean and had a shower, so I took one.

We start the action, went directly to sucking those huge boobs and licking that nice nipples. She undressed only leaving that tiny pink thong that showed her nice round ass. After that she suggested a boobjob which I generously accepted. She has big baby mama tits which I enjoyed alot. Her blowjob skills were really good, however it was with condom. I wanted to feel her inside so we tried cowgirl first, it was heavenly I could feel her tight pussy with my cock. In the following minutes we changed positions and honestly the best one was in doggy. Seeing that white ass with that tan line was enoguh for me to ram it all the way up. No words and describe the incredible view and the feeling of fucking a Brazilian girl with an amazing body. After a long session I finished inside her in doggystyle.

After everything was done we came to the payment. She asked for payment method which I payed in PIX. Damage was only 190 BRL which for me was a very good price value. Converted to USD it would have been about 35 bucks give or take. I will really keep going to this place because I think the value for me is very good. In comparison to boates I like it much better.

After all the boates, clinics, Scandallo to Gauguin, Palms to Miruna, dated models in LA, New York, and Philly, I found a perfect 10 at Casarao. Having nothing to do with the fact she already looks like a young runway model and has a god pussy, she turned out to be even more incredible because, as she herself promised, she'll do anything.

[QUOTE=Hanzonamura;3050340]After all the boates, clinics, Scandallo to Gauguin, Palms to Miruna, dated models in LA, New York, and Philly, I found a perfect 10 at Casarao. Having nothing to do with the fact she already looks like a young runway model and has a god pussy, she turned out to be even more incredible because, as she herself promised, she'll do anything.[/QUOTE]I too scored a 10 at Casarao (2024). Only second 10 lifetime (other was in Madrid). She was from Manaus and brand new. Stunner! And a nice girl. Definitely gems to be mined at casarao.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3016719]2) PLEASE do a report write up. There are WAYYYYY to many guys who have 200-300 posts and all they ever do is ask questions. They don't give back to the community. Don't be that guy.[/QUOTE]Turned out that he was that guy. As of today he (RahulMangla2009) has 120 posts, and as far as his SP trip, no report so far half a year on, and his first page of posts is just questions. Didn't bother to look at his other pages of posts. The way he wrote also smells of grifter. I never bother to answer questions from people like him. Anyways, I'll have a virgin SP trip coming up late February and I've read all the way back to 2023. Maybe overkill there. The SP board appears to be among the cleanest boards in ISG, clean of pages and pages of useless arguments between different "experts", mostly clean of reports that are mostly just a guy bragging about his own escapades with no actionable information. Will report back as much as I can after my trip.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3050469]I too scored a 10 at Casarao (2024). Only second 10 lifetime (other was in Madrid). She was from Manaus and brand new. Stunner! And a nice girl. Definitely gems to be mined at casarao.[/QUOTE]I also had a 9 5 (for me in part because of her exotic look) in Casarao who was Manaus. She wore an indian princess thèmed dress which went with her partly indigenous look. Shared her weed with me in the room. I always try Casaroa. It's easy to get to and navigate. Prices are good and it's hard not to find at least very good girl to your tastes.

I had a tendency to reserve hotel rooms and AirBnbs in Moema, Vila Olympia, and Itaim Bibi.

During a prior trip, had to extend my stay--out of laziness, decided on a property closer to the airport.

The neighborhood is awful. Unless, accounting for the increased likelihood of scoring crack. I escorted a girl staying with me to a gym while I would visit markets for dinner. She diverted us away from a stairwell that would have been our direct route warning, those are the most dangerous areas in Sao Paulo. I don't know, I've been to parking lots near asian markets filled with Korean moms operating SUVs with a death wish but whatever.

The areas west are loud. Moema and Itaim Bibi, the airplanes. Vila Olympia adds active helipads.

Here, it's quiet. Oddly, Internet has been superior. Plus, amenity requirements are covered including hot tub.

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My point being, I recommend looking into seemingly disastrous neighborhoods provided the building is adequate with security provisions, staff, cameras, facial recognition. You'll uber everywhere anyway and it's quite comfortable and quiet.

This is partially informative, partially a question.

Among Palms, Oro, Lotus, and Sharon -.

Found two who looked reasonably slender. Rather, the main criteria, cannot deadlift a Buick.

Sky at Palms. Gorgeous. Older than pictures. Head is technically without condom. Head-without but NBA air ball the hoop. Antonella at Sharon looks better than her pictures. See online. She was also either eager or just being polite waiting for round two. Either way, appreciated the gesture but did not think to go again.

I've visited Oro and Lotus twice, each.

Question: are Oro and Lotus ever staffed with slender women? They are generally very pretty per tablet photos but distracted by the sheer amount of muscle contemplating whether I'm looking to bang arnold schwarzenegger with boobs.

That said, with two good experiences, I've come to favor this over boates, those rooms. It's cleaner, prefer the pace, the obligatory massage masked behind everyone knowing it's entirely unrelated to the purpose of the visit is a nice touch.

Yours is the veteran strategy. Like you, I would rather miss out on a possible good session to avoid paying for what will more likely be a dud session. Experience confirms an upfront payment request from a girl you don't know is a red flag.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3049859]Further to Steve9696's point, I'd say 3/4 of the time if a girl demands payment upfront, the session has been bad for me. It's to the point now where I'll end it right there and cut my losses (unless they demur very quickly). I'd rather minimize losses to just eating the sunk room cost than the amount for the girl as well.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for this, I really like this site because it's good to use with gpguia's detailed reviews to see which girls appeal visually.

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;3049680][URL]https://www.kamaww.com/[/URL]

Website gives daily lineup of girls of 15 CLnicas. Apparently it was set up for guys who are concerned of having a bunch of clinicas contacts on their phone's WhatsApp.[/QUOTE]