[QUOTE=CumberlandBlue;2946828]Both Ticuan and pueblo are good spots- \[/QUOTE]I can't stay in Ticuan anymore, the night club around the corner is too much anymore. Monstrously loud.
Pueblo isn't a bad place.
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[QUOTE=CumberlandBlue;2946828]Both Ticuan and pueblo are good spots- \[/QUOTE]I can't stay in Ticuan anymore, the night club around the corner is too much anymore. Monstrously loud.
Pueblo isn't a bad place.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2954336]I was in the new back area they open in busy nights, standing at a corner watching the girls dance at the big oval bar table. Suddenly this mouse looking and acting mesero came trying to conceal himself using me as a cover seemingly readying to pounce at somebody behind me, suddenly he hunched down and moved quickly and went to this other younger mesero who was cleaning a dance table and poked his ass. Ok weird! The other jumped away and looked back but said nothing, the mouse came back to where I was holding his middle fingers up in the air, sniffing them. WTF! As he passed me he put his fingers near my face as if forcing me to sniff. Instinctively I kicked him in the belly to push him away. I was angry, I was ready to pounce with fists. He thought it was funny, I didn't. Luckily he went away doing or saying nothing. Facking piece of shit. I was fuming, I talked to one of the security guys, showed him who he was and he told me he will talk to the big boss there.
They do this kind of crap. One came and asked me to buy a drink to this girl I was talking to, whom I was tipping, hugging her and putting dollars in her clothing. She was a nice looking girl, good slim dark body, nice smile. Then this vulture started yelling, "bebida para la chica" told him I was giving her tips. Then he said something in Spanish and rubbed his elbows indicating I was being stingy. He killed her mood. I whispered to her I will would talk to her later when I would be ready for arriba, and sent her away.[/QUOTE]Been going to HK for 15 years and the damn meseros just get worse and worse. I was there a few weeks ago and every damn time I paid for a drink the fkkn mesero tried to jack me for 5-10 p del cambio because they assume I'm a fkkn idiot and won't count the coins or can't do the math in my head! And then they get annoyed when I say where the f are my other 8 p, start calling me codo and tacaņo and shit in front of the chick, who I already told exactly what was going to happen when the mesero comes back and tries to short me 8 p en monedas, so she's sitting there laughing at us. I tell the mesero to show me every fkkn peso of my change or he can keep the 8 p as his tip. They act all annoyed and shit and I'm like dude IDGAF about you, there ain't no shortage of shitbag meseros here for me to choose from.
Speaking of meseros I might as well drop my latest unfortunate interaction with one. A couple weeks back I had made arrangements with one of my regulars to come see me on one of her days off. In true working chica fashion she was running a bit late so I headed down to HK to kill some time. I ran into another one of my regulars who was stuck in Chavelas purgatory for the time being. She was already drinking a beer so when a mesero saw me sit down next to her he starts hounding me to buy her a drink. I told him wait just let her finish this and then we'll get one. He goes no you have to get her one if you're going to sit with her. I was like fine whatever and told the girl to get whatever she wanted. Since her beer was damn near full she ordered a tequila shot. It took her around 20 minutes or so to finish her drinks. I started getting texts from the other girl who kept updating me on her ETA. I told the girl I was with I had this other one on the way and invited her to join us if she wanted to and she said sure since they were already familiar with each other. We had about 15 minutes to kill for the other one to arrive so I told a mesero to grab the girl I was with another beer in the meanwhile.
We waited for the other girl to let me know when she arrived and when she did, we headed out. We met up and went up to my room and kicked things off right away after one girl took a few puffs off her joint and the other did a couple lines of blow to ramp things up. After a good 10 minutes or so of fooling around there was a knock at the door. We all look at each other like, what the fuck? I crack the door open and see a mesero standing there. I ask what he wants. He starts saying I never paid for the girl's drinks down at Chavelas. I was pissed. I said yes I did. He goes no, you owe me for 2 drinks. I go, dude I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. He says, you never paid me for her drinks. The girl I was with then comes to the door wrapped in a bed sheet and goes dude what are you talking about. I just want to get paid, he says. The girl and I then look at each other like, did I forget to pay? I vividly remember paying for the tequila shot, but didn't remember whether I paid for the beer, which I thought I did, but wasn't exactly sure. I ask the girl, didn't I pay for it? I thought you did, she says. The mesero then goes, just pay me for the 2 drinks and I can go. I say, wait a minute, I don't know what this 2 drink bullshit is about. We just ordered one tequila shot and one beer, that's it, and I 100% paid for the tequila shot. We were then both at a standoff. Not to mention I was also pissed because I had completely lost my boner and the entire mood had been ruined. The mesero then goes fine just pay me for the beer and I'll leave. Even though I thought it was bullshit I grabbed eleven bucks from my wallet and handed it to him. He seemed to be expecting a tip but I just shut the door in his face. I asked the girl, didn't I pay for the beer too? I honestly don't remember, she says. Shit. I didn't either. I thought I did but who the fuck knows at this point.
Anyway, after that interaction we all jumped back into bed and we were able to pick things up where we left off and my hard on was able to return, fortunately. What I took away from this was to always try to remember who your mesero is and try to get one you're already familiar with if he's around to avoid bullshit like this.
It's hilarious. All these customer no-service problems at HK. HK treats their clientele like shit. Yet. Everybody bitches about but keeps going back! LOL. Like an abused wife, or something. Maybe Stockholm Syndrome?
News flash. HK ain't the only bar in town.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2954452]I honestly don't remember, she says. Shit. I didn't either. I thought I did but who the fuck knows at this point.
[/QUOTE]I don't use meseros at all, if I did I'd be asking them to bring the drinks in rounds only and close the tab every time one round is delivered.
They are all intense hustlers. A girl told me the majority of them have prior or current cartel involvement carrying out missions. They are all deceptively physically strong, strong like a bull, indicating country farm upbringing with hard labor.
[QUOTE=MikeyVee123;2954401]Been going to HK for 15 years and the damn meseros just get worse and worse. I was there a few weeks ago and every damn time I paid for a drink the fkkn mesero tried to jack me for 5-10 p del cambio because they assume I'm a fkkn idiot and won't count the coins or can't do the math in my head! And then they get annoyed when I say where the f are my other 8 p, start calling me codo and tacao and shit in front of the chick, who I already told exactly what was going to happen when the mesero comes back and tries to short me 8 p en monedas, so she's sitting there laughing at us. I tell the mesero to show me every fkkn peso of my change or he can keep the 8 p as his tip. They act all annoyed and shit and I'm like dude IDGAF about you, there ain't no shortage of shitbag meseros here for me to choose from.[/QUOTE]
So do the reception workers in the Hotels. They used to round out the dollar exchange to their favor, taking away few cents / dollar ending up with $20 or more in their pockets. Now the Hotels don't even show rooms prices in Pesos. I guess they got tired of guests complaining about the unabated swindlers there.
By the way, always come prepared with your payment calculated with discounts and deposits added and cross check what they tell you to the sum you got. If you are staying with VIP's and coupon discounts those bastards will make you pay over and pocket the differences.
Watch your cash you put on the reception desks and also the change they give you. There are incidents including one of those hawks grabbed a twenty while showing me something and I realized quickly that I was short by that much from the money I had out on the table. Called him on it and he said "yeah I meant to grab everything, sorry I thought you were paying with that." Yeah right.
I was also swindled nearly $40 from a change, noticed it when I got to the quicky room with a girl. I left her there and walked quickly and called him out on it, he gave me back the money.
These are somethings I know about, there sure would be other times I was robbed and did not know about them. Now I am exceptionally careful with what I do there.
Went HK on Friday, there around 5 pm. Wasn't super busy, sitting at main stage just chilling, not planning on taking anyone up for a while. Chica sits down and introduces herself. She isn't the hottest in the club by any means but nice body (no fake plastic nonsense) ok face, probably in her early 30's but looks alright. I would have normally just sent her away but she immediately started kissing my neck and seemed to know english so I said what the hell and bought her a drink.
She turned out to be pretty cool and was very open with kissing which isn't the norm so we talked a while. I was impressed how good her english was and she was pretty aggressive but in a good way so I asked her how much and she started at $100. I appreciated not having to deal with the $150 nonsense so I just straight up asked "can I cum on your face?" she just calmly said "yeah" so up we went. Nice BBBJ, view from doggy was better than expected and she was true to her word on the ending. She took a longer than avg shower and we had a nice convo on the way back to the club and that was that. I came back around 11 pm and it was packed, way too busy for my taste. Saw some absolute stunners but the girls I approached spoke no english and I guess I was spoiled because I didn't want to put in the work with google translate so I just called it a night.
Overall was a good time, the meseros weren't overly pushy but it was just too busy. Did see the police / national guard / whoever storm in from the back entrance, I was just stepping out to go to my room and they shoved me out of the way and marched farther into the club, not sure what that was about but I got out of there and stayed out for 1/2 HR or so. Also saw a chica trip and fall, she was so out of it security just picked her up over his shoulder and carried her upstairs, hope she's ok.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2954654]I don't use meseros at all, if I did I'd be asking them to bring the drinks in rounds only and close the tab every time one round is delivered.
They are all intense hustlers. A girl told me the majority of them have prior or current cartel involvement carrying out missions. They are all deceptively physically strong, strong like a bull, indicating country farm upbringing with hard labor.[/QUOTE]I can't speak to cartel involvement, but I think actively carrying out missions for a cartel is a lot of chisme. However, most are deportees. The ones who speak perfect "California accent" English are the easiest to spot. They've most likely done time in CA and were then sent back to MX. And they didn't do time because they're choirboys or jaywalkers.
They are deceptively strong and they serve not only as waiters but as HK's security staff / bouncers.
[QUOTE=KyzrCccc;2954719]Went HK on Friday, there around 5 pm. Wasn't super busy, sitting at main stage just chilling, not planning on taking anyone up for a while. Chica sits down and introduces herself. She isn't the hottest in the club by any means but nice body (no fake plastic nonsense) ok face, probably in her early 30's but looks alright. I would have normally just sent her away but she immediately started kissing my neck and seemed to know english so I said what the hell and bought her a drink.[/QUOTE]I was there Saturday. Although there were a lot people in the club it felt slow. Even the "alley" were all the street girls stand was filled with girls but it felt empty. I think that the higher cost of everything is affecting the environment making it feel less festive.
[QUOTE=KyzrCccc;2954719]Went HK on Friday, there around 5 pm. Wasn't super busy, sitting at main stage just chilling, not planning on taking anyone up for a while. Chica sits down and introduces herself. She isn't the hottest in the club by any means but nice body (no fake plastic nonsense) ok face, probably in her early 30's but looks alright. I would have normally just sent her away but she immediately started kissing my neck and seemed to know english so I said what the hell and bought her a drink.[/QUOTE]I almost want to say I know exactly who you're talking about LOL.
Did she have dark hair and not heavily tattooed?
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2954928]I almost want to say I know exactly who you're talking about LOL.
Did she have dark hair and not heavily tattooed?[/QUOTE]Yeah, I am terrible with names but I think it was something like Hera.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2954928]I almost want to say I know exactly who you're talking about LOL.
Did she have dark hair and not heavily tattooed?[/QUOTE]Wait not dark hair, she recently dyed it some sort of reddish brown I think.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2955012]Wait not dark hair, she recently dyed it some sort of reddish brown I think.[/QUOTE]If it is who I think it is, her English is no bueno.
Her Spanish is excellent, though.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;2954604]It's hilarious. All these customer no-service problems at HK. HK treats their clientele like shit. Yet. Everybody bitches about but keeps going back! LOL. Like an abused wife, or something. Maybe Stockholm Syndrome?
News flash. HK ain't the only bar in town.[/QUOTE]I agree 100%. HK is not the be all end all in the Zona Norte. You can have fun in Chicago Club, Tropical, and the alley clubs like Gold Palace and La Caretta and be treated better.
[QUOTE=Nemphomaniac;2947999]All of this sounds interesting to me. This never really crossed my mind. Can someone give a hypothetical example of how this would work out? So you meet a girl in Tijuana for example. Get to know each other for a while and decide to go on a trip together. If you live in Whereever, USA do you just buy her flight online from Tijuana to the destination and you fly as well then meet in the airport or hotel? Just curious on the typical setup in case I manage to click with someone. BTW does this type of relationship usual happen over the course of several sessions in Tijuana with lots of texting? Is the ability to speak fluent Spanish a requirement?[/QUOTE]First thing is you get her what's app, than you follow each other on instagram, it helps if your instagram is full of travel photos and pics of your kid / kids / family, this builds trust and ensures to her you're not going to do anything stupid to fuck up your life. Once you establish trust and you've been texting for awhile you can agree on a travel date. Make your expectations clear. For me I told her I wasn't going to pay her for sex and she was not obligated to. Obviously she did just not every night and I was fine with that. It definitely helps if you are Hispanic too or can at least speak Spanish fluently. For me all the above applied so it wasn't hard and my most recent one I had her meet me in Colombia actually. Bought her ticket with a connecting flight from DF and from there she flew to Colombia. She paid for her own bags. Once she arrived I was waiting for her with a Uber and off we went to explore the country for a week.
[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2955154]First thing is you get her what's app, than you follow each other on instagram, it helps if your instagram is full of travel photos and pics of your kid / kids / family, this builds trust and ensures to her you're not going to do anything stupid to fuck up your life. Once you establish trust and you've been texting for awhile you can agree on a travel date. Make your expectations clear. For me I told her I wasn't going to pay her for sex and she was not obligated to. Obviously she did just not every night and I was fine with that. It definitely helps if you are Hispanic too or can at least speak Spanish fluently. For me all the above applied so it wasn't hard and my most recent one I had her meet me in Colombia actually. Bought her ticket with a connecting flight from DF and from there she flew to Colombia. She paid for her own bags. Once she arrived I was waiting for her with a Uber and off we went to explore the country for a week.[/QUOTE]That's a lot of information to be giving a pro, but you do you.
[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2955266]That's a lot of information to be giving a pro, but you do you.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you have to be able to weed out the good information from the bad on these forums and that definitely struck me as bad info, LOL. LOL at sending these chicas your social media account filled with pics (and presumably other info) about your family and kids, that could very easily backfire for you on multiple levels. That's not the level of "trust" I need to establish with any of these chicas.
[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2955266]That's a lot of information to be giving a pro, but you do you.[/QUOTE]That's true I wouldn't advise giving your social media to just any chick, especially if you have something to hide, in my case I'm not married or in a relationship, what's the worst that can happen? She will try to blackmail me by telling my friends and family I visit Hong Kong? LOL I'm not worried about that.
[QUOTE=BrotherMouzone;2955332]Yeah, you have to be able to weed out the good information from the bad on these forums and that definitely struck me as bad info, LOL. LOL at sending these chicas your social media account filled with pics (and presumably other info) about your family and kids, that could very easily backfire for you on multiple levels. That's not the level of "trust" I need to establish with any of these chicas.[/QUOTE]Only if you have something to hide I agree.
Per the discussion in the other thread. This seems like the appropriate place for this information.
I stayed in the Penthouse Executive Suite in Cascadas for a few nights last year. The fire door adjoins another penthouse, and the clearance under the fire door makes it really easy for sound to travel between rooms; as in there is literally zero insulation. And the floor is concrete, so the sound travels. My last night I was trying to get to bed at around midnight so I could make my flight, and the guy in the suite next door was blasting music hella loud. Between that and all the sex sounds, it was difficult to sleep.
I never had this trouble with any of the other rooms. Idk what room is on the other side of the fire door (going to guess it's the Penthouse View Suite), but I'm never staying in either of those ever again.
[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2955461]Per the discussion in the other thread. This seems like the appropriate place for this information.
I stayed in the Penthouse Executive Suite in Cascadas for a few nights last year. The fire door adjoins another penthouse, and the clearance under the fire door makes it really easy for sound to travel between rooms; as in there is literally zero insulation. And the floor is concrete, so the sound travels. My last night I was trying to get to bed at around midnight so I could make my flight, and the guy in the suite next door was blasting music hella loud. Between that and all the sex sounds, it was difficult to sleep.
I never had this trouble with any of the other rooms. Idk what room is on the other side of the fire door (going to guess it's the Penthouse View Suite), but I'm never staying in either of those ever again.[/QUOTE]This problem persists with all rooms including those in Rizo that have adjoining doors. Avoid those. If past midnight you could have talked to security to talk to the other guy.
[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2955461] there is literally zero insulation ... so the sound travels. My last night I was trying to get to bed at around midnight so I could make my flight, and the guy in the suite next door was blasting music hella loud. Between that and all the sex sounds, it was difficult to sleep.[/QUOTE]There are always sounds in the hallway all through the night, etc.
So the way I deal with it is have music or other youtube content playing on my computer. Either through computer speakers or I put on headphones.
Headphones are a better way to blocking out other sounds.
If a guy in adjoining room is playing really loud music then I would first knock on door / wall and ask if they can lower it. Or call security to ask for lower volume. But have not had to do that do so far.
[QUOTE=Rambo1969;2956396]........ Or call security to ask for lower volume.....[/QUOTE]I've only had to do that in US hotels.
[QUOTE=Rambo1969;2956396]There are always sounds in the hallway all through the night, etc.
So the way I deal with it is have music or other youtube content playing on my computer. Either through computer speakers or I put on headphones.
Headphones are a better way to blocking out other sounds.
If a guy in adjoining room is playing really loud music then I would first knock on door / wall and ask if they can lower it. Or call security to ask for lower volume. But have not had to do that do so far.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't knock on his door. That is potentially worsening the situation. I forgot the TV on and I am used to be sound asleep with loud TV or Radio on. In the morning while I was sound asleep the guy next room knocked on my door very loudly and persistently. I sprung up and there was this old dude, telling me to lower my TV, in a very stern tone. Anger welled up in me and I shouted at him to "Get the fuck off my door" and slammed it on his face.
Better to always call security. Avoid direct contact.
Writing a full report on all the days of my trip to Tijuana last week (Monday. Thursday) would have been too long of a post, so I'll just write about the most eventful day (which was Wednesday), along with the notable chicas I interacted with. This post will be about the chicas:
Hermes. She was the first chica I bought a ficha for. Monday night was light, and in my eyes she was the hottest chica in the club. She has long black hair and huge fake DD's. No English though, so I had to rely on Google Translate for some of the tougher parts. But the majority of our conversation was in Spanish. She was grinding me during the ficha, and I wanted to take her up for arriba. She quoted me 130 for 45 minutes, but would not budge from CBJ. Being that it was still early in the night, I told her I would think about it. Later on in the night, I spotted her again. She asked if I wanted to go up now and I told her I would, but I was waiting for a different chica. Later, I found out I would not be able to meet with the other chica. But by that time, she was gone. I did spot her at the club on Wednesday. See that report for full details.
VIP. I first met her last year in Chicago Club. Ever since I saw her dancing on the pole at Chicago with no panties on and black knee-high 5 inch high heels, I have wanted to go arriba with her and have her dance on the pole in my room, and then later bend her over the pole and enter from behind. She is a 20 year old spinner with long black hair and colored contacts. She has a lot of tattoos on her legs. She lives in Tijuana and used to work in Chicago but now works at Hong Kong. Two weeks before the trip, I messaged a few chicas from last time who I wanted to see again. She was the only one of them who I ended up meeting with. We were supposed to meet on Monday, but I couldn't find her. Turns out I had walked past her and just didn't recognize her. So instead we met up on Tuesday afternoon. This time, she messaged me where she was.
I found her, we embraced, and I led her upstairs for a ficha. We had some light conversation before I asked about arriba prices. Her price had increased to 150 for an hour (last year she quoted me 120 for an hour). I didn't care because I have been wanting to go arriba with her since my last trip. She said yes to both BBBJ and finishing on her face. After finishing her drink, we went upstairs to start the fun.
We started off with me putting on some music, each taking a few hits from the pen I brought with me, before she did a private dance for me on the pole in my room. It was as spectacular as I dreamed of. She said she doesn't like doing oral, but I found her oral skills to be excellent. Great technique and suction. She was ok with me deep throating her. The visuals on that were fantastic. I returned the favor by going down on her, using fingers and my tongue. Was great. For positions, we started with her on all fours on my bed, before switching to missionary. The eye contact at certain points of missionary were powerful and almost made me finish. The last one we did was her wearing her red high heels, bent over and holding onto the pole with both hands, me entering from behind. Similar to the private pole dance, reality matched the dreams.
For the finale, I put a square pillows on the ground and had her kneel on it. I really liked this girl so I made extra effort to avoid her eyes. In addition to her face, a good amount went on her upper body. She looks in the mirror and says "OMG. Wow". I tell her she loves amazing with my load everywhere. She says "Thank you for the skincare. " I'll remember that line for a long time. We showered together, and spent the rest of the time chilling. I paid her at the end; we made plans to meet up the next day.
Wednesday, we were supposed to meet at 4 pm, but met closer to 5 pm. She was late because she was dressed up as a devil but got turned away by management because there were already a few chicas wearing devil costumes. She wanted to be a kitty or bunny but those were taken also, so she chose to be a nun. The makeup and white contacts she was wearing made it a "scary nun" costume. We had a ficha upstairs before going up to my room. During the ficha, I asked if she wanted to have dinner with me at Azul tonight, and she said yea. I asked what time and she said whatever time you want.
The session was similar to the first one. Turning on some music, a few hits of the pen, then a private dance on the pole. She is able to climb the pole and do some acrobatic moves on the way down. Watching it in person was just mesmerizing. With her permission, I filmed part of the dance. I wasn't able to fully enjoy the dance like the first time since I had to keep her in focus with the phone, but the benefit is I can view that dance whenever I want. BBBJ, fantastic again, and this time some light ball licking thrown in. After a few hits, the sensations were amplified and crazy.
Mounted up and first did face off position (me sitting at the edge of the black piece of furniture in my room and then her straddling me face to face), then doggy with her on all fours. She was tight and it was hard not to bust after a few minutes. Because of her makeup, I could not do COF this time. Instead, I did COB and not only did it go there, it also went on her neck, stomach, on one of her leg tattoos, and a good portion on the black pillow she was kneeling on. We cleaned up together in the shower, then spent the rest of the time chilling. I gave her the $ she well deserved. I confirmed if she wanted to eat together later and she said yeah. I asked what time and she said whatever you want. I told her I would message her later. We got dressed, and I walked her to the elevator and we said bye with a big hug and a see you later. More about that in the other post.
Doroty. Spotted her on Monday night while doing a lap at HK. This was after what happened at Chicago. We made eye contact and I invited her upstairs for a ficha. She is 25 with blonde hair and reminds me of a barbie doll with her duck lips and fake the cups. She was touchy and gave me a lap dance during the ficha, which was a good sign. Her English was pretty good and I asked her about it. She told me she is Colombian, which I found surprising, as I don't recall having met a Colombian girl at HK before. She quoted me 150 for an hour, but she said CBJ because she was wearing braces. No to COF or COB, she said I could finish on her ass or side of her leg. She also was adamant that I pay in the beginning. Despite what happened earlier, I decided to go up with her.
The session was memorable in more ways than one. In the beginning, she asked if I smoked. I said yes and told her I had some stuff with me, and asked if she wanted some. She smiled and nodded her head yes. So we had a few hits each from my pen, and started the foreplay. Details became a bit fuzzy after I decided to have two more hits. I remember her CBJ not feeling good because of the braces, so that was probably a good call on that. She let me deep throat for a tiny bit, which was great. Doggy on the bed was great as well, but I would say my favorite position was when I had her in missionary, her legs on my shoulders, me pounding away. At one point we made eye contact and she looked at me with those "fuck me" eyes while I was thrusting. After all the hits that I had, the visual during this was powerful.
I wanted to finish right then and there, but I had to have her on my pole. So I had her bend over and hold onto the pole, her heels on, while I entered from behind. She felt great, and I kept on thrusting to the point of no return, as I didn't feel like finishing on the 2 places she mentioned earlier. I stayed inside her for a minute until the euphoria dissipated, which turned out to be a colossal mistake because when I pulled out the condom was still inside her. She takes it out and we examine it and there was barely anything inside. There was some of my load on the floor. And she said there was some inside her. I examined the condom and it did not appear broken to me, but whatever, I could not take the risk so I paid her for the cost of a plan be pill.
After this crazy event, there was still time remaining, so we chill on my bed and chat. We each have an additional hit. She is a cool girl and I found myself liking her more as time went on. I asked if she wanted to have dinner with me after this, and she said ok. During our conversation, she mentioned that she is into girls. That struck me as interesting. With time nearing the one hour mark, we get dressed and I walk her to the elevator. I told her I would message her when I was Azul. I did, but we ended up not eating together because she said Management would not let her leave the club, she had to stay there for the rest of her shift.
I messaged her the next day to try and meet up, but it did not end up happening. We did meet up Wednesday night, but only for a ficha, no arriba. More details in the Halloween Party post.
Hikaru. I met this chica on Wednesday afternoon while waiting for VIP. Her army cadet uniform caught my eye, and I invited her up for a ficha. She is 33 with medium length brown hair. During the ficha, she kept putting her hands on my dick and rubbing it, which made me rock hard quickly, especially after having taken some figral earlier. At a few points I told her to stop because I didn't want to bust right then and there. She said sorry and took her hands away, but 30 seconds later placed them right back on my dick and continued rubbing away. She quoted me 120 for 45 minutes, yes to BBBJ, and surprisingly yes to finishing on her face. I wanted to go up with her, but I already had plans to meet up with VIP. Shortly afterwards, VIP shows up, and I make plans to see her tomorrow morning when she starts work (11 AM) before I head back across the border.
We meet up the next morning 15-20 minutes earlier than scheduled. This was great because checkout time was at 1 PM and I didn't want to cut it too close. I had some figral earlier to ensure I could stay hard. No ficha this time because of the time, we went straight to my room. I put on some music, and we started the fun. Her BBBJ was great, and she did some light ball licking. We started with reverse cowgirl on the floor before switching to doggy. She felt great, tighter than I expected. I almost busted, but had to have her in standing doggy first. We took a break from penetration while I went down on her. After a short break, it was time for the signature position on the pole. Just like every other time this trip, it felt amazing. When it was time for me to finish, she was at the wrong height for a facial, and I didn't want to risk hitting her in the eye, so I decided to do COB at the last second. The release felt intense.
We clean up in the shower and spend the rest of the time talking in bed. She's a cool girl, would repeat with her. As time is nearing the hour mark, we get dressed and I ask if she is ready to go. She said yes but I'm waiting for you to pay me first. Oops! I apologize and go to grab my wallet right away. I had honestly forgotten to pay her. I gave her the amount we agreed on, and then walk her to the elevator before saying bye with one last kiss on the lips.
That was a great report ron.
We are not getting enough of these and with a lot of changes taking place like price hikes and pushy meseros I like to hear about their
Thoughts and methods everybody uses to accomplish threir goals.
[QUOTE=RonFromSichuan;2956795]
For the finale, I put a square pillows on the ground and had her kneel on it. I really liked this girl so I made extra effort to avoid her eyes. In addition to her face, a good amount went on her upper body. She looks in the mirror and says "OMG. Wow". I tell her she loves amazing with my load everywhere. She says "Thank you for the skincare. " I'll remember that line for a long time. We showered together, and spent the rest of the time chilling. I paid her at the end; we made plans to meet up the next day.
.[/QUOTE]There is nothing more erotic than to have a girl with a cum on her lips and in her mouth, holding her so close, and having with a her a long wet French Kissing.
Yesterday I had a 5 hour session with a girl who met me OTC and when she left I went scavenger hunting at HK. At first I didn't see too much that interested me and I was about to leave to check out Chicago but then I ran into one of my ATF's lining up on the chavelas side to sign into work. We both did a double take when we saw each other because we couldn't believe the other one was there. It's really rare to catch her on the clock since she hardly shows up. I'm surprised they haven't fired her yet, but she is very charming and charismatic, so that goes a long way. I told her where to meet me once she got her work bracelet. We grabbed an open booth and were catching up for an hour or so. She was particularly interested in some chica drama I had a few weeks ago that I never got around to telling her about and got her perspective on things. The fichas started adding up so I told her lets bail to my room at Rizo.
As soon as we walked into the room she attacked me with some passionate DFK and ripped my pants off to give me a standing BBBJ. I love passionate Latina women. We moved things onto the bed and had a great session as always. When we were done she said she wanted to cuddle so we got under the sheets. She said she didn't want to go back to the club and was going to stay until they kicked her out. I guess they lost track of her somewhat because we didn't hear anything until after about an hour and fifteen minutes. But we didn't get a knock on the door, instead they rang the phone in the room. I picked up and it was some dude who sounded pissed off. Translated he basically said, "tell that fucking girl to come down immediately, she has stayed way too long, it's enough!
In the moment I thought it was hilarious so I just started laughing and said, calm down bro, she's on the way and he hung up. She jumped in the shower and asked what the guy said and I told her, he said for you to get your ass downstairs right now. She waved her hand and said fuck him LOL. She goes, I'm going to take my sweet time taking a shower too, I'm not rushing for his dumb ass, they can try to fine me if they want, I dont give a fuck. She then took about another 15 minutes finishing up and putting her outfit back on. I walked her back to the club and nobody really said anything to her. She told me we could meet up after her shift to grab something to eat if I wanted to but I ended up passing out when I headed back to my room since I was drunk.
I walked into HK around 8 PM to check out the Halloween party. I had no idea there was a party until the day before when the chica I went arriba with told me about it. My plan was to just walk around and enjoy the party, as I had already went arriba in the afternoon. Potentially session again, but not necessary because I already had plans with a chica for the next day and I wanted to be able to perform for her.
I entered into a very crowded club. It was only 8 PM and it was already more crowded than either of the two previous nights. I take my usual lap around. The talent was noticeably better compared to the last two nights. And I would say almost all the chicas were in costume. It was costumes you would typically find at a college party, only with these girls you can pay to bang them next-door at Hotel Cascadas. I also saw a handful of civilian girls aswell, probably more than all my previous trips combined.
After walking around for a bit, I realized that even though the costumes were cool and all, I actually preferred the chicas wearing their normal HK attire, which was basically bra and panties, if not less. This is because a percentage of chicas were wearing costumes that covered their torso, so it made it harder to see what their body looked like. I wasn't intent on seasoning so it didn't matter to me, but if I was I would have to make sure I'm not getting duped.
I ended up finding a seat on the main floor by the pole dancing show. I stayed for a while and watched a bunch of dances. One that stood out to me was this one chica with green hair who was wearing a Scream mask. Her natural thin body glowed in the light. She started off dancing with the mask, and halfway through removed it, showing her face. I noticed people were more generous with their tips compared to earlier nights. A memorable moment occurred during another one of the chica dances. This chica was also wearing a Scream mask, I guess they are friends and must have coordinated costumes. At one point she had the knife out and was pointing it at the guy sitting next to me, imitating a stabbing motion. This guy had a big stack of $1's in front of him, and he took about 1/3 of it and threw it up into the air at her, with a scared expression on his face.
There was a costume contest, but I did not stay for it because I lost my seat. It was super crowded at this point. In order to traverse through, you had to contort yourself in various angles while moving forward. I decided to leave and head to Chicago for a bit.
I returned to HK around 11 PM to meet up with Doroty, a chica I met on Monday night. I wanted to talk to her about Monday night and the aftermath of it, as well as get some things off my chest. It was even more crowded compared to when I left. It took a bit of searching, but I was able to find her. I took her to Las Chavelas for a ficha as that was the only area where I saw seating available. We sat down, she got a beer, and we talked. After telling her some things I needed to say, she asked me if I wanted to go arriba with her. I told her I wanted to, but I didn't think I could tonight. I offered her the opportunity to hang out in my room and smoke and chill, but she said she had to work to make $. I told her I understood. We bid farewell with an embrace, and parted ways.
I return to the HK area pole show. There was a girl dressed as a gladiator on stage, and she reminded me of a girl I went arriba with on my last trip. The dance got a lot better when she removed the costume. Those DD cups were fake, but man they looked great. I tipped her when she passed by, along with getting a touch of her great looking body. She got a lot of tips, the guy working had to use a broom to sweep it all up.
I was tempted to leave after that as it was such a great dance, but I decided to stay for a few more. Which turned out to be a great idea because I got to see Hermes, a chica I met Monday night. She was dressed in a sexy police officer costume. If she was working in my town, I would intentionally speed every time I saw her vehicle. She didn't do anything fancy on the pole, but man she knew how to move her body. And of course, her costume came off. It was right then and there that I regretted not going with arriba with her earlier in the week. Someone from the second floor started making it rain, and for a good 10 seconds it was snowing $1 bills. When she passed by me I tipped her and grabbed her luscious DD's. By the end of her dance, she had gotten so many tips, the guys had to bring out a white laundry basket to collect it all.
After Hermes got off stage, I went to her and asked her if she remembered me. She smiled and nodded her head yes. I asked if she wanted a drink, and she frowned and said she was busy. Damn. I'm guessing the guy who was making it rain got dibs on her first. So I decided to walk around one last time. I ended up in this area of the club that I had never been before, not sure what the name is. But to get there, you walk up this obscure set of stairs that is near the back exit. There was bunch of people watching a foam show going on. It was almost midnight and still super packed, a little too crowded for my liking. So I decided to head to my room to take a few hits then meet up with VIP (a chica I went arriba with earlier in the day, as well as the day before) for dinner. While I am in my room, VIP sends me a message asking if her friend can join us since she didn't want to eat alone. I say ok.
I arrived at Azul first, shortly after midnight. About 5 minutes later, she came with her friend. Dinner was good, although I wish I was 1 on 1 with her so we could talk more. I ordered salmon and a fruit salad, VIP ordered a salad with chicken, and her friend ordered some sushi. VIP attracted a lot of attention with her nun costume from the other tables. A bunch of guys were making comments, I found it amusing. At the end I paid for the 3 of us, and we parted ways with one last embrace. I headed back into the Hotel to get some rest for the morning.
Overall, the Halloween party was cool and I am glad I went. I'm not sure people wise how it compares to the weekend as I have never been to HK on a weekend, but it was definitely the most crowded I have ever seen HK. There was just so many people in the club that it felt a little suffocating at times. Even though the talent level was high, if you just want to have a good time and not focus on arriba, it would be hard to because seating is sparse and very hard to find. This was my fifth trip to Tijuana. Not sure when I will be back, but overall had a great time despite what happened the first night at Chicago.
HK Saturday Morning Experience / Guide / Tips.
I'm not a night person, so I decided to go for my first at around 9 AM. This was my first time in the club setting, I've only ever done escorts before. It was pretty empty, maybe less than 30 girls all on the first floor and around the same ratio of guys. Girls were coming in and out. I scoped it out for 20 minutes before spotting a flaquita I liked.
I approached her and we started chatting. I got her a beer ($11) while we chatted. I speak conversational Spanish but it can definitely use improvement. She also didn't speak any english. She proposed arriba for $100 but I wanted to get to know here more. I started feeling her up and her the same to me as she started dancing on me. We had good chemistry while chatting and I decided to pull the arriba.
Went upstairs, did the deed. After her shower, we started off with some head and she was amazing. Then went to pound town and man her moans were spectacular. Too bad I only lasted like 5 minutes haha. She gave an awesome experience would definitely repeat.
I believe her name was lluvia and she works in the mornings.
Total for everything was $160 (I also got a water for myself) - $100 arriba, $40 room, $11 beer, $5 water (ikr), a few $ tips.
[QUOTE=JamieJones;2957248]HK Saturday Morning Experience / Guide / Tips.
I'm not a night person, so I decided to go for my first at around 9 AM. This was my first time in the club setting, I've only ever done escorts before. It was pretty empty, maybe less than 30 girls all on the first floor and around the same ratio of guys. Girls were coming in and out. I scoped it out for 20 minutes before spotting a flaquita I liked.
I approached her and we started chatting. I got her a beer ($11) while we chatted. I speak conversational Spanish but it can definitely use improvement. She also didn't speak any english. She proposed arriba for $100 but I wanted to get to know here more. I started feeling her up and her the same to me as she started dancing on me. We had good chemistry while chatting and I decided to pull the arriba.
Went upstairs, did the deed. After her shower, we started off with some head and she was amazing. Then went to pound town and man her moans were spectacular. Too bad I only lasted like 5 minutes haha. She gave an awesome experience would definitely repeat.
I believe her name was lluvia and she works in the mornings.
Total for everything was $160 (I also got a water for myself) - $100 arriba, $40 room, $11 beer, $5 water (ikr), a few $ tips.[/QUOTE]Nice short and sweet report. I read it all.
$160 for that experience, a ton of better than Tijuana escorts in my opinion. Not sure why people go for escorts rather than to clubs in the Zona when things are calm and collected like you did. For rare apearances the experience is amazing. If you had taken her phone number you could have seen her outside of the zona in some future time too.
Well HK was actually boring and not much partying going on. Noticed a couple of girls that I liked but when watching them I just didn't feel a good time and I didn't want to drink just to drink. I ended up drinking with one girl that had very poor gums and was scratching her leg a lot. So maybe she was on something. So had a few drinks and moved on.
One thing I did notice was I didn't see girls ordering the wine fichas, I think I only saw one. Maybe because I've been away for almost a year but the quality seems to be getting worse and worse. On top of that I get more depressed walking around the Zona with AB closed it makes that area more dark and depressing. I know it's always been a s hole but it seems to bug me more in my old age.
I think this is why I enjoy traveling to different cities because the clubs are often in better areas or at least when not in the club you have more to do.
[QUOTE=Sol12;2957974]Well HK was actually boring and not much partying going on. Noticed a couple of girls that I liked but when watching them I just didn't feel a good time and I didn't want to drink just to drink. I ended up drinking with one girl that had very poor gums and was scratching her leg a lot. So maybe she was on something. So had a few drinks and moved on.
One thing I did notice was I didn't see girls ordering the wine fichas, I think I only saw one. Maybe because I've been away for almost a year but the quality seems to be getting worse and worse. On top of that I get more depressed walking around the Zona with AB closed it makes that area more dark and depressing. I know it's always been a s hole but it seems to bug me more in my old age.
I think this is why I enjoy traveling to different cities because the clubs are often in better areas or at least when not in the club you have more to do.[/QUOTE]Don't spend too much time in the zona. Have a schedule to pass through HK, suggest 3 times a day and no more than an hour each time. Go to you room and chill, better yet go to town, check out places, restaurants, coffee shops and such. If you become a zona rat, you get burned out, and your libido becomes dulled. The two things that can kill your mood are cumming each time you are with a girl and then too much drinking.
Interestingly enough, I was talking to a new chica recently, getting a feel for her and invited her for a couple beers. In the process I asked what her drink of choice was and she said she loves wine but rarely orders it. I asked why and she said she feels bad ordering a drink that's $30+ for the client. Since she was a very sweet and pleasant girl I suggested she could always ask permission to order it and the worst that can happen is that the client says no. She said she would just rather avoid that conversation altogether and get a beer instead. I thought that was very considerate of her, but she is barely one month into the business. Who knows how she'll be another month or two from now.
Many times I came down to the club after 2 or 3 sessions and lots of drinking, sat drinking, thinking the club was boring, waste of time blah blah.
Then some hot girls would come by, drink, talk sweet and sexy, kiss, caress my body, rub my crotch. They don't have to get on top to give me hard lap dances and break my balls. Only good looks, sweet talks and gentle caress are enough to usually get my dick to to rise and my heart to fill with passion, which I usually have to take the girl upstairs for some good pounding.
Lucky I have many wingmen to hang out with in the club. It's a lot more fun to go with wingmen.
Do you guys think this Tuesdays and Wednesday will be super slow do to the election in the USA?
Stopped by HK last night, it seemed ok but not as packed as other Sunday's. Immediately ran into one of my girls, who goes by Pammy, she was busy working an older monger over so I flashed a peace sign from afar and she did the same. Did a couple laps but didn't see any of my other chicas around so I headed to Chicago. Didn't see too many girls to my liking so I headed back to HK after about ten minutes. Pammy and the older monger were gone so I figured she convinced him to go arriba. Spotted a girl I have been trying to hook up with for a while now but she was tied up with some Indian guy who kept the $33 wine bottles coming over to her. I grabbed a seat and figured something interesting was bound to pop up sooner or later. Just when I was about to give up and head home, Pammy reappeared by the bar talking to some guy. He kept tipping her dollar bills so she was hanging out with him for several minutes. When he ran out of tips she bid him farewell and started heading my way as I was on the opposite end of the bar.
She gave me a big kiss and I asked what time she was clocking out. It was near midnight and she said she only had about a half hour left. She asked if I wanted to hang out afterwards and I said sure, since we regularly see each other outside of work. She said a chica friend of hers was staying at Hotel Leyva and we could go to her room and have a threesome if I would like. She said her friend would be cool with 80 bucks and I could give her the same if I wanted to. I hadn't met her friend before, but I had seen pictures. She's not exactly a knockout but seems decent enough and appears to be a fun girl. Pammy went to change out of her work attire and clock out. We met by the main entrance out front and walked over to Leyva, which is on the same block as Chicago. We met up with the friend in her room and they smoked a joint before the activities began. The threesome was decent and her friend threw in BBBJ and DFK. I didn't last too long and busted in around 15 minutes when Pammy hopped off CG and gave me BBBJCIM while I made out and fingered her friend. We hung out for about another half hour but then Pammy said she had to head home because she had to get up somewhat early. She was attempting to get an uber but nobody was accepting her request. I offered to give her a ride since I had drove over and she said sure.
Turns out she lives a little under 10 miles away from the zona so it was a bit of a drive. When I pulled up to her place she actually lives in a gated community, which caught me by surprise. They have a person manning the entrance gate 24/7 and they asked for my ID and said I would receive it upon my exit, which was a little strange, but at that point what was I going to do. Once we were inside it was like its own separate little world in there. On top of everything else, this chick's house is behind a SECOND gate which she had a code to. This place was like Fort Knox. She offered for me to use her bathroom before I left but I wanted to get my ID back ASAP, I was still wondering why they needed it. Plus her "brother" and two kids were inside. If she lived by herself or with a chica friend I would have taken any excuse to work my way in there. I told her thanks but that I was alright and she gave me a nice kiss good night. Headed back towards the entrance gate and got my ID back. Several cops zipped by me on my way to the border, but thankfully I was able to avoid getting pulled over and made it back fine.
[QUOTE=JamesOcla;2958148]Do you guys think this Tuesdays and Wednesday will be super slow do to the election in the USA?[/QUOTE]Tuesdays and Wednesday are already pretty dead. I doubt it will be much different this week.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2958271]
Headed back towards the entrance gate and got my ID back. .[/QUOTE]I wouldn't be alarmed over this. Its not that uncommon in Mexico. Many of the sex motels do the same.
I'm a regular visitor to Tijuana, and HK is always my top choice due to its convenience. Having traveled extensively throughout Asia, Europe, and the Middle East, I can confidently say HK offers exceptional value.
I visit HK monthly, preferring Monday and Tuesday nights for several reasons:
Benefits.
- 70% off hotel rooms with VIP card.
- Complimentary beer and breakfast.
- Smaller crowds.
New talent typically arrives on weekdays, making it easier to connect.
My recent trips have yielded authentic experiences (GFE. BBBJ, DFK, 69) with enthusiastic young ones.
I'll return to HK in a couple of weeks.
Stopped by earlier around 6 pm for a couple hours. Seemed pretty slow but the night was still young I guess. Saw the usual girls around.
[QUOTE=JBoarman;2958553]I'm a regular visitor to Tijuana, and HK is always my top choice due to its convenience. Having traveled extensively throughout Asia, Europe, and the Middle East, I can confidently say HK offers exceptional value.
I visit HK monthly, preferring Monday and Tuesday nights for several reasons:
Benefits.
- 70% off hotel rooms with VIP card.
- Complimentary beer and breakfast.
- Smaller crowds.
New talent typically arrives on weekdays, making it easier to connect.
My recent trips have yielded authentic experiences (GFE. BBBJ, DFK, 69) with enthusiastic young ones.
I'll return to HK in a couple of weeks.[/QUOTE]I agree Hong Kong is a good place especially with VIP card. Club, hotel, restaurant, close to the border but the price for sexual services could be a little lower. Similar concept to the club "Pascha" in Cologne (Germany) the largest brothel in Europe. What is missing is a tropical beach in Tijuana and the vacation is complete. Before there was also a great place "Campo" on the island of Curacao (Dutch Antilles) right next to Venezuela (about 2 hours by plane from Miami). Old military barracks painted pink, each room air condition, tropical vegetation, two bars, restaurant, strip show. Girls only from Colombia and Dominican Republic price for 30 min. Session was US $30 ! Add to that the tropical beaches on the island and this place was a total paradise for a perfect vacation. I was there every year in January. (day temp. 85 F / night 75 F and warm water in the sea). Unfortunately Campo is closed since Covid. They plan to open again, we'll see.
[QUOTE=FlapJacK;2958336]Tuesdays and Wednesday are already pretty dead. I doubt it will be much different this week.[/QUOTE]Was there Wednesday around 12 noon and there were literally 5 guys and 50+ girls. Even the afternoon the ratio was insane. Great time to go I guess is during elections. All for yourself. Girls really had to work for it which is super nice.
Yes indeed, this week M - F, was all powdered up, made up, stitched up, mostly over 35 women. Most of them long timers and they mostly want 130 to 150. I may not be back in 3 Months. Disappointing.
[QUOTE=JamesOcla;2959367]Was there Wednesday around 12 noon and there were literally 5 guys and 50+ girls. Even the afternoon the ratio was insane. Great time to go I guess is during elections. All for yourself. Girls really had to work for it which is super nice.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Starting Thur nights things get worse for guys. Its amazing how the sentiment changes. The girls are wide eyed, excited, meseros and other ushers animated, mongers getting drunk with them girls on tables. This is generally a bad deal for regular guys who frequent the place. A girl that was nice to you on Tuesday night and begging for arriba will refuse to talk to you unless you buy her drinks on Thursday night or pay her $150.
The quality of the women is generally and slowly changing like Adelita in 2016, downhill. So many women with that stupid yellow dyed hair. Looking at it kills my libido.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2958271]Stopped by HK last night, it seemed ok but not as packed as other Sunday's. Immediately ran into one of my girls, who goes by Pammy, she was busy working an older monger over so I flashed a peace sign from afar and she did the same. Did a couple laps but didn't see any of my other chicas around so I headed to Chicago. Didn't see too many girls to my liking so I headed back to HK after about ten minutes. Pammy and the older monger were gone so I figured she convinced him to go arriba. Spotted a girl I have been trying to hook up with for a while now but she was tied up with some Indian guy who kept the $33 wine bottles coming over to her. I grabbed a seat and figured something interesting was bound to pop up sooner or later. Just when I was about to give up and head home, Pammy reappeared by the bar talking to some guy. He kept tipping her dollar bills so she was hanging out with him for several minutes. When he ran out of tips she bid him farewell and started heading my way as I was on the opposite end of the bar.
She gave me a big kiss and I asked what time she was clocking out. It was near midnight and she said she only had about a half hour left. She asked if I wanted to hang out afterwards and I said sure, since we regularly see each other outside of work. She said a chica friend of hers was staying at Hotel Leyva and we could go to her room and have a threesome if I would like. She said her friend would be cool with 80 bucks and I could give her the same if I wanted to. I hadn't met her friend before, but I had seen pictures. She's not exactly a knockout but seems decent enough and appears to be a fun girl. Pammy went to change out of her work attire and clock out. We met by the main entrance out front and walked over to Leyva, which is on the same block as Chicago. We met up with the friend in her room and they smoked a joint before the activities began. The threesome was decent and her friend threw in BBBJ and DFK. I didn't last too long and busted in around 15 minutes when Pammy hopped off CG and gave me BBBJCIM while I made out and fingered her friend. We hung out for about another half hour but then Pammy said she had to head home because she had to get up somewhat early. She was attempting to get an uber but nobody was accepting her request. I offered to give her a ride since I had drove over and she said sure.
Turns out she lives a little under 10 miles away from the zona so it was a bit of a drive. When I pulled up to her place she actually lives in a gated community, which caught me by surprise. They have a person manning the entrance gate 24/7 and they asked for my ID and said I would receive it upon my exit, which was a little strange, but at that point what was I going to do. Once we were inside it was like its own separate little world in there. On top of everything else, this chick's house is behind a SECOND gate which she had a code to. This place was like Fort Knox. She offered for me to use her bathroom before I left but I wanted to get my ID back ASAP, I was still wondering why they needed it. Plus her "brother" and two kids were inside. If she lived by herself or with a chica friend I would have taken any excuse to work my way in there. I told her thanks but that I was alright and she gave me a nice kiss good night. Headed back towards the entrance gate and got my ID back. Several cops zipped by me on my way to the border, but thankfully I was able to avoid getting pulled over and made it back fine.[/QUOTE]Gated communities are very common in Mexico, usually they are for the middle class and above, I guess your girl is doing well if she can afford living there.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2959455]Exactly. Starting Thur nights things get worse for guys. Its amazing how the sentiment changes. The girls are wide eyed, excited, meseros and other ushers animated, mongers getting drunk with them girls on tables. This is generally a bad deal for regular guys who frequent the place. A girl that was nice to you on Tuesday night and begging for arriba will refuse to talk to you unless you buy her drinks on Thursday night or pay her $150.
The quality of the women is generally and slowly changing like Adelita in 2016, downhill. So many women with that stupid yellow dyed hair. Looking at it kills my libido.[/QUOTE]Daytime Monday to a Wednesday is my go to. Better ratio and you can actually sit with the girl and get to know her a bit. They aren't rushed and you aren't rushed. The meseros seem to be more chill too. Offer them a tequila shot and they become your buddy (they aren't allowed to drink but the getsure works in your favor).
[QUOTE=JamesOcla;2959743]Daytime Monday to a Wednesday is my go to. Better ratio and you can actually sit with the girl and get to know her a bit. They aren't rushed and you aren't rushed. The meseros seem to be more chill too. Offer them a tequila shot and they become your buddy (they aren't allowed to drink but the getsure works in your favor).[/QUOTE]I also agree.
Monday and Tuesday evening have been the best for me.
Hong Kong also has a policy of making the weekend girls work either a Monday or Tuesday as part of their employment.
They try to be a a all week party place.
Scuddy.
Hey Gents, it has been close to 10 years since I was in San Diego and visited HK. In the before time, I would park at the Jack in the Box near the pedestrian border, use only my DL to get in and out of the country, grab a taxi waiting on the Mexico side for $5 and head to HK. Any changes? Pedestrian crossing still active? Mexico taxi prices still around $5 USD? HK prices still the same?
[QUOTE=Andorman;2960960]Hey Gents, it has been close to 10 years since I was in San Diego and visited HK. In the before time, I would park at the Jack in the Box near the pedestrian border, use only my DL to get in and out of the country, grab a taxi waiting on the Mexico side for $5 and head to HK. Any changes? Pedestrian crossing still active? Mexico taxi prices still around $5 USD? HK prices still the same?[/QUOTE]Besides everything costing more, your only worry will be that walking in they now require a passport or passport card. However if for some reason you don't have them there are other options.
[QUOTE=Andorman;2960960]Hey Gents, it has been close to 10 years since I was in San Diego and visited HK. In the before time, I would park at the Jack in the Box near the pedestrian border, use only my DL to get in and out of the country, grab a taxi waiting on the Mexico side for $5 and head to HK. Any changes? Pedestrian crossing still active? Mexico taxi prices still around $5 USD? HK prices still the same?[/QUOTE]You're kidding, right? I'm predicting this is not going to go well for you.
[QUOTE=Andorman;2960960]Hey Gents, it has been close to 10 years since I was in San Diego and visited HK. In the before time, I would park at the Jack in the Box near the pedestrian border, use only my DL to get in and out of the country, grab a taxi waiting on the Mexico side for $5 and head to HK. Any changes? Pedestrian crossing still active? Mexico taxi prices still around $5 USD? HK prices still the same?[/QUOTE]Ha ha ha! Good luck!
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2905012]Yep.
Every time I drive a little bright red sports car to a major shopping mall, women and girls think it's an exotic and expensive Ferrari, stare and smile at me.
A girl was walking with her big family in the parking lot, stopped every one in the track, stared at the car for a long time, asked her dad, "Dad, what kind of car is this?
A group of families about 30 people were on a bike tour, stopped their bikes in the middle of the road, blocking traffic, staring at the car. Finally a man biked over, his daughter wanted to know where to buy this car. A wingman was in the car with me on that trip.
A female moto cop screamed her siren, pulled me over in LOS Angeles, swaggered over in her high boots, "This car is so cute. I just wanted to look at it!
The truth is, this car is so old, girls in their 20's never saw it in their lives. Any bro want to hook more hot girls, just buy my red sports car. It sure works with dumb women.[/QUOTE]Captain, what car is it? A Corvette?
[QUOTE=Andorman;2960960]Hey Gents, it has been close to 10 years since I was in San Diego and visited HK. In the before time, I would park at the Jack in the Box near the pedestrian border, use only my DL to get in and out of the country, grab a taxi waiting on the Mexico side for $5 and head to HK. Any changes? Pedestrian crossing still active? Mexico taxi prices still around $5 USD? HK prices still the same?[/QUOTE]The taxi mafia will hit you with a minimum now of about $12 bucks, which can be negotiated maybe to $10. Total ripoff as HK is like 7-10 minutes max from the pedestrian exit area depending on the time of day and traffic.
My recommendation is to avoid the taxi, use the free transport / shuttle provided by Hong Kong. As you exit the turnstyle from Mexican custom / Ped East Exit after that long walk you will come to the street and see the taco / food vendors. You turn right on the main street, and then make the 2nd quick right. This will be right where people are lined up to walk back from Mexico to the US if you are not sure, you can ask someone where is the line to walk back to US. You will see a small storefront that says Zona Shuttle. You will get put on a limo or regular car quickly for free but please tip the driver at least 2 bucks, or 1 at the bare minimum.
Second option is to order an Uber for about 65-85 pesos which is roughly 3 to 4 us dollars. This can be tricky to find a landmark though so pin your location so driver knows where you are,.
As far as girl prices most will want 100-150 for 30 minutes which I am sure is way more than 10 years ago. You even have to negotiate to be lucky to get them for $100-120 as many won't budge.
Hope this helps.
The HK experience is so expensive, I have begun renting chicas by the week or month.
[QUOTE=StudBucket;2961805]The taxi mafia will hit you with a minimum now of about $12 bucks, which can be negotiated maybe to $10. Total ripoff as HK is like 7-10 minutes max from the pedestrian exit area depending on the time of day and traffic.
My recommendation is to avoid the taxi, use the free transport / shuttle provided by Hong Kong.
Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]I personally wouldn't go anywhere near the free transport / shuttle provided by Hong Kong. Maybe it's just me, but to me, It's just too tacky of a thing I would want anyone to see me getting into or out of. Especially with all the hooker bar advertisements on the sides of it. Not very classy or discreet at all.
[QUOTE=FlapJacK;2961898]I personally wouldn't go anywhere near the free transport / shuttle provided by Hong Kong. Maybe it's just me, but to me, It's just too tacky of a thing I would want anyone to see me getting into or out of. Especially with all the hooker bar advertisements on the sides of it. Not very classy or discreet at all.[/QUOTE]Oh really? Unless you are a married guy your "classy" reasoning made me chuckle a bit.
You make putas look like fleabag motels.
How do you rent weekly or monthly?
There is a cheaper option. The collectivo taxi that leaves for the zona centro and drops you off at the burger king on revolucion. 14 to 16 pesos.
Is cheap as chips and only requires a small walk to the clubs.
[QUOTE=StudBucket;2961805]The taxi mafia will hit you with a minimum now of about $12 bucks, which can be negotiated maybe to $10. Total ripoff as HK is like 7-10 minutes max from the pedestrian exit area depending on the time of day and traffic.
My recommendation is to avoid the taxi, use the free transport / shuttle provided by Hong Kong. As you exit the turnstyle from Mexican custom / Ped East Exit after that long walk you will come to the street and see the taco / food vendors. You turn right on the main street, and then make the 2nd quick right. This will be right where people are lined up to walk back from Mexico to the US if you are not sure, you can ask someone where is the line to walk back to US. You will see a small storefront that says Zona Shuttle. You will get put on a limo or regular car quickly for free but please tip the driver at least 2 bucks, or 1 at the bare minimum.
Second option is to order an Uber for about 65-85 pesos which is roughly 3 to 4 us dollars. This can be tricky to find a landmark though so pin your location so driver knows where you are,.
As far as girl prices most will want 100-150 for 30 minutes which I am sure is way more than 10 years ago. You even have to negotiate to be lucky to get them for $100-120 as many won't budge.
Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FlapJacK;2961898]I personally wouldn't go anywhere near the free transport / shuttle provided by Hong Kong. Maybe it's just me, but to me, It's just too tacky of a thing I would want anyone to see me getting into or out of. Especially with all the hooker bar advertisements on the sides of it. Not very classy or discreet at all.[/QUOTE]Sorry but this made me chuckle as well. You are worried about someone looking at you in a limo with pitch black windows for which I promise you cannot be seen. Also, this is Tijuana, people really don't give a shit if you are going to any of these clubs. In fact, I even see normal families or people dining at the Hotel Rizo restaurant minding their own business as mongers sit next to their hooker girlfriends. Lastly, just know that civilians will see you going in and out of the girlie clubs and you cannot be discrete about that, so I would worry more about being seen coming in and out of these clubs as opposed to being in a pitch black limo. Just my two cents so others are not dissuaded; but I respect your preference.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2961838]The HK experience is so expensive, I have begun renting chicas by the week or month.[/QUOTE]Great idea, yes I agree its getting expensive when you factor cost for some us who come from hours away and factor in hotel costs, air, gasoline, or train costs and the hotel.
Can you please elaborate where are you getting these gals and what type? Are you talking about HK girls you rent for a week or girls from online, etc. ?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=FlapJacK;2961898]I personally wouldn't go anywhere near the free transport / shuttle provided by Hong Kong. Maybe it's just me, but to me, It's just too tacky of a thing I would want anyone to see me getting into or out of. Especially with all the hooker bar advertisements on the sides of it. Not very classy or discreet at all.[/QUOTE]I understand your point of view as I have never used it but I usually drive across. Like others have said nobody knows you or cares. Also the club may offer sex but many guys just go to enjoy the strip club side of it. I often think I might run into someone I know in the club but if you're just sitting in the bar watching girls or drinking with a girl who cares. Also they are in that place as well. With the ridiculous prices the taxis are charging I would care less what others think.
[QUOTE=StudBucket;2961926]Great idea, yes I agree its getting expensive when you factor cost for some us who come from hours away and factor in hotel costs, air, gasoline, or train costs and the hotel.
Can you please elaborate where are you getting these gals and what type? Are you talking about HK girls you rent for a week or girls from online, etc. ?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I buy drinks for a HK lady, go upstairs, come back a few days later, buy drinks, go upstairs, discuss going out to dinner before work next time, before her shift.
After dinner, talk about travel.
Arrange to do an overnighter on a day off.
Arrange to go to the DF for a few days. If that works.
Arrange to go to Cancun. If that works.
Arrange to go to Brazil for a month. If that works.
Go Thailand.
[QUOTE=FlapJacK;2961898]I personally wouldn't go anywhere near the free transport / shuttle provided by Hong Kong. Maybe it's just me, but to me, It's just too tacky of a thing I would want anyone to see me getting into or out of. Especially with all the hooker bar advertisements on the sides of it. Not very classy or discreet at all.[/QUOTE]HK Limo rides are awesome.
They are also stress free.
I almost had an incident with an angry taxi guy once. So I will take the Limo any time it is available.
Limo rides are a great for me to start and end my Tijuana trips.
The stretch limo, when available, is a really cool experience.
I was in Tijuana for the first time in over 20 years the weekend before last. Always wanted to and was tempted to go but didn't until I found a buddy that was down, he had actually been there a few times before we went so he kinda knew the ropes but we are both still learning.
Had a blast, it definitely exceeded my expectations. I can't see myself dating girls in the states anymore, I'll maybe see 1 or 2 regulars that I know but as far as anyone new, I'm done. No way I'm going to pay at least twice as much for service that will not exceed what I got in Tijuana. No more BS attitudes, girls showing up 1 hour late or ghosting you when you text for their ETA. One of the women I saw there was one of the hottest I've seen in a long time, pair that with her service and she was definitely top 5 I've had in the last 10 years. I live in Vegas and it's more that worth the drive or flight. In the long run it will also save me lots of money as it will just about stop my spending here, allowing me to splurge when I get down there yet still come out way ahead!
[QUOTE=Sol12;2961927]I understand your point of view as I have never used it but I usually drive across. Like others have said nobody knows you or cares. Also the club may offer sex but many guys just go to enjoy the strip club side of it. I often think I might run into someone I know [/QUOTE]Yea who is going to see you? Really probably nothing to worry about. The HK shuttle is great for sure take advantage.
How embarassing. I ran into a client down in the zona norte about 10 years ago. Well not really embarassing, we just discovered we had something in common. To this day when I run into him, in a whisper we compare notes on the latest on what's up in the zona.
[QUOTE=Dac007;2962228]I was in Tijuana for the first time in over 20 years the weekend before last. Always wanted to and was tempted to go but didn't until I found a buddy that was down, he had actually been there a few times before we went so he kinda knew the ropes but we are both still learning.
Had a blast, it definitely exceeded my expectations. I can't see myself dating girls in the states anymore, I'll maybe see 1 or 2 regulars that I know but as far as anyone new, I'm done. No way I'm going to pay at least twice as much for service that will not exceed what I got in Tijuana. No more BS attitudes, girls showing up 1 hour late or ghosting you when you text for their ETA. One of the women I saw there was one of the hottest I've seen in a long time, pair that with her service and she was definitely top 5 I've had in the last 10 years. I live in Vegas and it's more that worth the drive or flight. In the long run it will also save me lots of money as it will just about stop my spending here, allowing me to splurge when I get down there yet still come out way ahead![/QUOTE]20 years! Whew. How is the divorce going?
Hey have a good time and make sure you don't pay LV money to these girls in HK. Stick with $100/30 m.
US women? I won't touch them with a long stick let alone with my Mboro. Are you watching this show called "Pop the ballong" saw some part of it recently. What a shit show we have in the US, our women have mentally gone astray. Gone!
[QUOTE=Andorman;2960960]Hey Gents, it has been close to 10 years since I was in San Diego and visited HK. In the before time, I would park at the Jack in the Box near the pedestrian border, use only my DL to get in and out of the country, grab a taxi waiting on the Mexico side for $5 and head to HK. Any changes? Pedestrian crossing still active? Mexico taxi prices still around $5 USD? HK prices still the same?[/QUOTE]The Jack in the Box parking lot is still there, and a lot others now. Everything is about the same except the prices, inflations hits everything and everyone, forget about $5 bucks for everything.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2961955]I buy drinks for a HK lady, go upstairs, come back a few days later, buy drinks, go upstairs, discuss going out to dinner before work next time, before her shift.
After dinner, talk about travel.
Arrange to do an overnighter on a day off.
Arrange to go to the DF for a few days. If that works.
Arrange to go to Cancun. If that works.
Arrange to go to Brazil for a month. If that works.
Go Thailand.[/QUOTE]Yeah, and If that works, travel the world with her non-stop for two years and start your own youtube channel documenting your journey.
I think your plan has a good chance of succeeding but is highly unrealistic, seeing that most people don't have the time or money to do all thatat least not in a short time span.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2962490]Yeah, and If that works, travel the world with her non-stop for two years and start your own youtube channel documenting your journey.
I think your plan has a good chance of succeeding but is highly unrealistic, seeing that most people don't have the time or money to do all thatat least not in a short time span.[/QUOTE]The process is ongoing, as I only come to Tijuana a few times a year. We have done the DF and Cancun.
No way to do 2 years, her husband would object.
[QUOTE=Dac007;2962228]I was in Tijuana for the first time in over 20 years the weekend before last. Always wanted to and was tempted to go but didn't until I found a buddy that was down, he had actually been there a few times before we went so he kinda knew the ropes but we are both still learning.
Had a blast, it definitely exceeded my expectations. I can't see myself dating girls in the states anymore, I'll maybe see 1 or 2 regulars that I know but as far as anyone new, I'm done. No way I'm going to pay at least twice as much for service that will not exceed what I got in Tijuana. No more BS attitudes, girls showing up 1 hour late or ghosting you when you text for their ETA. One of the women I saw there was one of the hottest I've seen in a long time, pair that with her service and she was definitely top 5 I've had in the last 10 years. I live in Vegas and it's more that worth the drive or flight. In the long run it will also save me lots of money as it will just about stop my spending here, allowing me to splurge when I get down there yet still come out way ahead![/QUOTE]You go to PI, LOS, BZ, CR, Col, Indo, JPN, CH. And other playgrounds around the world. I mongered since 1994 on an off.
Have fun Enjoy the Ride.
GL.
CurrentlyInBKK.
To the mathematicians out there:
When tipping the waiters or doormen with $1 or 20 peso notes.
At what exchange rate is it better to use $1?
At what exchange rate is it better to use 20 pesos?
Hi guys,
I will probably be in Tijuana for a few days starting this Sunday. Are there any HK girls you recommend? The girls I saw on my last few trips which I recommend are Peggy, Nasa, Lili, and Mafer.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2962366]20 years! Whew. How is the divorce going?
Hey have a good time and make sure you don't pay LV money to these girls in HK. Stick with $100/30 m.
US women? I won't touch them with a long stick let alone with my Mboro. Are you watching this show called "Pop the ballong" saw some part of it recently. What a shit show we have in the US, our women have mentally gone astray. Gone![/QUOTE]Oh, I'm definitely not doing that. Passed up a few that wanted 150 for the ones that asked for 100. I agree, the women in the states have lost their minds. I have seen SW's here in Vegas asking 200 for a car date! Online is usually 250. In the casino's they start at about 500.
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;2962712]Hi guys,
I will probably be in Tijuana for a few days starting this Sunday. Are there any HK girls you recommend? The girls I saw on my last few trips which I recommend are Peggy, Nasa, Lili, and Mafer.[/QUOTE]Try Tanya, Zafira, Ikura and Dubai.
[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;2962700]To the mathematicians out there:
When tipping the waiters or doormen with $1 or 20 peso notes.
At what exchange rate is it better to use $1?
At what exchange rate is it better to use 20 pesos?[/QUOTE]They don't like giving changes back and no coins.
[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;2962700]To the mathematicians out there:
When tipping the waiters or doormen with $1 or 20 peso notes.
At what exchange rate is it better to use $1?
At what exchange rate is it better to use 20 pesos?[/QUOTE]Right now since the exchange rate is at 1 x20 there is no difference, however if the pesos keeps losing value and the dollar goes higher it would be cheaper to use 20 peso notes.
Doe anyone have any info regarding the hotels close to HK? I stayed across the street at Rizo earlier this month. My first time there but I'm not 21 and don't plan on spending a lot of time at HK so I'd like a hotel that's a bit nicer as I will be spending a decent amount of time there relaxing, you know something with windows and maybe a couch. When I booked my room at Rizo, the description said there was a couch in the room, there was not. I learned a long time about that arguing with businesses in Mexico isn't a great idea so I just let it go. The elevator was also not working. I was on the lower floor but my buddy was on the 5th floor, he was not happy.
I've looked at some hotels but I'm wondering if they allow girls to come to your room, I've heard that some will not. I met a few at HK who are willing to see me at a hotel. I assume girls from HK are not willing or allowed to go to other hotels while they are working at HK. Anybody had good results seeing a HK girl when she's not working at the club?
I've also seen some online agencies and ads, surprising there are plenty of review out there but once again this will depend on the hotel.
I think I'm going to stay at Rizo for one night then at another hotel for 2 nights.
Haven't been to Tijuana in many many years would like to go down there and check it out and have some fun would like to go with somebody that's been going there a while kind of knows what's up thanks peace.
[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;2962700]To the mathematicians out there:
When tipping the waiters or doormen with $1 or 20 peso notes.
At what exchange rate is it better to use $1?
At what exchange rate is it better to use 20 pesos?[/QUOTE]It's better not to waste so much time and energy and brain cells on saving a few pennies. Literally pennies.
Heading to Tijuana and HK on December 7-9 if anyone wants a wingman this will be my 6 trip.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2962751]Try Tanya, Zafira, Ikura and Dubai.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the recs, this is super helpful! Any experience with Hera or Moet? I have seen their names on this forum.
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;2963123]Thanks for the recs, this is super helpful! Any experience with Hera or Moet? I have seen their names on this forum.[/QUOTE]They change names like clouds change form. Forget about names. In fact they tell you one name and walk to the next guy and tell him a different name. Few girls keep persistent names, like Tanya.
Will be in hk this Sunday Nov 24 with couple wingmen from about noon to midnight.
Will sit on main floor near the stage, black cap with lip stick. Ask mesero Pollo or front desk guy if you can't find me.
Come by and say Hello,. Will be fun.
[QUOTE=Emeritus;2962923]Haven't been to Tijuana in many many years would like to go down there and check it out and have some fun would like to go with somebody that's been going there a while kind of knows what's up thanks peace.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2963161]Will be in hk this Sunday Nov 24 with couple wingmen from about noon to midnight.
Will sit on main floor near the stage, black cap with lip stick. Ask mesero Pollo or front desk guy if you can't find me.
Come by and say Hello,. Will be fun.[/QUOTE]12 hrs straight? Dang!
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2963161]Will be in hk this Sunday Nov 24 with couple wingmen from about noon to midnight.
Will sit on main floor near the stage, black cap with lip stick. Ask mesero Pollo or front desk guy if you can't find me.
Come by and say Hello,. Will be fun.[/QUOTE]I'll try to join you, I've always been curious of meeting some of the Tijuana's forum members.
[QUOTE=Dac007;2962894]Doe anyone have any info regarding the hotels close to HK? I stayed across the street at Rizo earlier this month. My first time there but I'm not 21 and don't plan on spending a lot of time at HK so I'd like a hotel that's a bit nicer as I will be spending a decent amount of time there relaxing, you know something with windows and maybe a couch. When I booked my room at Rizo, the description said there was a couch in the room, there was not. I learned a long time about that arguing with businesses in Mexico isn't a great idea so I just let it go. The elevator was also not working. I was on the lower floor but my buddy was on the 5th floor, he was not happy.
I've looked at some hotels but I'm wondering if they allow girls to come to your room, I've heard that some will not. I met a few at HK who are willing to see me at a hotel. I assume girls from HK are not willing or allowed to go to other hotels while they are working at HK. Anybody had good results seeing a HK girl when she's not working at the club?
I've also seen some online agencies and ads, surprising there are plenty of review out there but once again this will depend on the hotel.
I think I'm going to stay at Rizo for one night then at another hotel for 2 nights.[/QUOTE]If you don't want to stay in any hotel in la zona your best bet is Hotel Ticuáand and Hotel Pueblo Amigo, but you will have to take a taxi / uber every time you want to go to HK / zona.
Also you can stay at the grand hotel tijuana which is a little more upscale. All Hotel Pueblo Amigo and the Grand girls can go up to your room because the front desk isn't in front of the elevators so nobody notices, the Hotel Ticuáand is girl friendly and girl have to register at the front desk, but they will let them through.
[QUOTE=Jim0129;2963374]If you don't want to stay in any hotel in la zona your best bet is Hotel Ticuand and Hotel Pueblo Amigo, but you will have to take a taxi / uber every time you want to go to HK / zona.
Also you can stay at the grand hotel tijuana which is a little more upscale. All Hotel Pueblo Amigo and the Grand girls can go up to your room because the front desk isn't in front of the elevators so nobody notices, the Hotel Ticuand is girl friendly and girl have to register at the front desk, but they will let them through.[/QUOTE]I hated the experience taking girls up in Ticuan. They all look at you, including the front security guys, the restaurant servers, the front desk and guests sitting around, you feel like the iconic piece of shit by the time you make it to the elevators specially if you are a regular there. The feeling is not the same as one you get in Zona club Hotels.
Don't know of Pueblo but I preferred the experience in Palcio Azteca as the front desk is facing away from the walkway to the elevators and no one notices. You can even hit the bar without entering the lobby. Also they treat you and your girl like regular guests since it is away from all the stigma of centro, Ticuan is in centro and so are sensitive to it.
I advise people to stay in Cas and Rizo, no better option really unless one goes to a good love motel. In Cas and Rizo there are really good quality rooms and you are encouraged to bring as many as girls you can and you will be treated like the roaring Lion that your are for doing so.
I am not sure what they are called, there is men and women employees who drag the girls to the tables and order them to dance. This particular one, a short fugly one, a lesbian who wears her hair blond, what is up with her? People know about this mofo or is it only me seeing issues with her? Apparently she likes some of the girls and doesn't like it when mongers mess with them. Saw her snatching girls away from dudes. WTF!
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2963394]I hated the experience taking girls up in Ticuan. They all look at you, including the front security guys, the restaurant servers, the front desk and guests sitting around, you feel like the iconic piece of shit by the time you make it to the elevators specially if you are a regular there. The feeling is not the same as one you get in Zona club Hotels.
Don't know of Pueblo but I preferred the experience in Palcio Azteca as the front desk is facing away from the walkway to the elevators and no one notices. You can even hit the bar without entering the lobby. Also they treat you and your girl like regular guests since it is away from all the stigma of centro, Ticuan is in centro and so are sensitive to it.
I advise people to stay in Cas and Rizo, no better option really unless one goes to a good love motel. In Cas and Rizo there are really good quality rooms and you are encouraged to bring as many as girls you can and you will be treated like the roaring Lion that your are for doing so.[/QUOTE]In our line of entertainment you can't be thin skinned. As long as its legal walk with your date with your head held high and don't forget to smile.
If the peso declines in value significantly, I will have to revise my vow to avoid HK and make a trip to Tijuana.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2963394]I hated the experience taking girls up in Ticuan. They all look at you, including the front security guys, the restaurant servers, the front desk and guests sitting around, you feel like the iconic piece of shit by the time you make it to the elevators specially if you are a regular there. The feeling is not the same as one you get in Zona club Hotels.
Don't know of Pueblo but I preferred the experience in Palcio Azteca as the front desk is facing away from the walkway to the elevators and no one notices. You can even hit the bar without entering the lobby. Also they treat you and your girl like regular guests since it is away from all the stigma of centro, Ticuan is in centro and so are sensitive to it.
I advise people to stay in Cas and Rizo, no better option really unless one goes to a good love motel. In Cas and Rizo there are really good quality rooms and you are encouraged to bring as many as girls you can and you will be treated like the roaring Lion that your are for doing so.[/QUOTE]I usually go for 2-3 nights, get a room at cascadas and another close by to actually sleep / rest / stash my stuff. It's impossible to sleep in cascadas and I hate leaving anything but the bare minimum in the room because most of them have fkkn roaches. There are a couple newer hotels within walking distance (half as far as the ticuan) that are rea $onable. One is called hotel west plaza and the other hotel wellintown, both basic but good enough for some solid rest.
[QUOTE=MikeyVee123;2963519]I usually go for 2-3 nights, get a room at cascadas and another close by to actually sleep / rest / stash my stuff. It's impossible to sleep in cascadas and I hate leaving anything but the bare minimum in the room because most of them have fkkn roaches. There are a couple newer hotels within walking distance (half as far as the ticuan) that are rea $onable. One is called hotel west plaza and the other hotel wellintown, both basic but good enough for some solid rest.[/QUOTE]My problem with Cas and Rizo rooms is not the noise but the lack of windows. Feels like you are in a prison cell. I personally do not like those rooms. If I stay, I stay with rooms with windows, the Master Suites in Cas all of them have big windows and they are cheaper on Mondays and Tuesdays with VIP. Rizo pretty much doesn't have rooms with windows except very few of. Most rooms in centro hotels have noise issues, including Ticuan.
I used to stay in Palacio, Ticuan, Aqua Rio, Hotel Espaņa (Rio Rita), Cesars, now I just stay in either Rizo or Cas, much more convenient. I get a room in upper floors and I will be set. Use sheets to cover the bed while doing the nasty, clean the room thoroughly and make the bed after each deed so I can rest, chill and sleep there. In fact I spend more time in the room rather than the clubs. I can say I pass by the clubs, I never stay more than an hour each time. Dulls my libido sitting and watching all that feminine body for hours.
Stopped by the zona last night for a couple hours. I thought one of my Chicago girls was going to be on the clock, but turns out she wasn't. That's what I get for not texting ahead of time. Slid over to HK and saw one of my ATF's heading up to the girls locker room and figured I would catch her when she came back down, but she never returned. Guess she got off duty. Could have texted her as well but I wanted to see what else popped up. Ended up passing by a very pretty blonde, white looking, a solid 8. 5 or 9. Slim, all natural with just enough curves. She reached out to get my attention and said vamos a comer, translated to english it literally means let's go eat. I thought it was a super odd opening line and didn't really make much sense with no context. Even though she was pretty I continued on my way maneuvering around the club on the hunt for more of a sure fire thing. Spotted another pretty girl drinking with some guy and she seemed like a winner. My mongering sixth sense was activated. Just what I was looking for. Made sure to get a good look at her and lock her in my memory to talk to her on a future visit. The guy she was with cuffed her for the rest of the night. Bastard. Ran into the blonde again later on and she pulled me in asking to take her arriba. She promised an amazing blow job with swallow, but for some reason I didnt take her for her word. Who knows, she could have been telling the truth, but in the moment it seemed like something she was just pulling out of her ass to get me to go arriba. I asked for her name and I believe she said Geisha. Maybe I'll invite her for a drink next time or one of you guys can give her a shot, just make sure to let me know how it went lol. I went back to Chicago one last time and nobody really caught my attention. One final lap around HK after that and decided to call it a night although it seemed things were starting to pick up a little. Figured I would save my money for an all nighter I'm going to pull with another one of my chicas in a couple of days.
[QUOTE=Jim0129;2963374]If you don't want to stay in any hotel in la zona your best bet is Hotel Ticuand and Hotel Pueblo Amigo, but you will have to take a taxi / uber every time you want to go to HK / zona.
Also you can stay at the grand hotel tijuana which is a little more upscale. All Hotel Pueblo Amigo and the Grand girls can go up to your room because the front desk isn't in front of the elevators so nobody notices, the Hotel Ticuand is girl friendly and girl have to register at the front desk, but they will let them through.[/QUOTE]For my short time going to Tijuana. I did not take a taxi to HK from Ticun. I walked all the way there and back. LOL great experience each time LOL.
Taxis are a rip off.
Are you sure she said Vamos a comer or did she say Vamos a cojer. 1 letter difference makes a BIG difference in what she was offering. Vamos a cojer means lets go fuck!
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2963599]Stopped by the zona last night for a couple hours. I thought one of my Chicago girls was going to be on the clock, but turns out she wasn't. That's what I get for not texting ahead of time. Slid over to HK and saw one of my ATF's heading up to the girls locker room and figured I would catch her when she came back down, but she never returned. Guess she got off duty. Could have texted her as well but I wanted to see what else popped up. Ended up passing by a very pretty blonde, white looking, a solid 8. 5 or 9. Slim, all natural with just enough curves. She reached out to get my attention and said vamos a comer, translated to english it literally means let's go eat. I thought it was a super odd opening line and didn't really make much sense with no context. Even though she was pretty I continued on my way maneuvering around the club on the hunt for more of a sure fire thing. Spotted another pretty girl drinking with some guy and she seemed like a winner. My mongering sixth sense was activated. Just what I was looking for. Made sure to get a good look at her and lock her in my memory to talk to her on a future visit. The guy she was with cuffed her for the rest of the night. Bastard. Ran into the blonde again later on and she pulled me in asking to take her arriba. She promised an amazing blow job with swallow, but for some reason I didnt take her for her word. Who knows, she could have been telling the truth, but in the moment it seemed like something she was just pulling out of her ass to get me to go arriba. I asked for her name and I believe she said Geisha. Maybe I'll invite her for a drink next time or one of you guys can give her a shot, just make sure to let me know how it went lol. I went back to Chicago one last time and nobody really caught my attention. One final lap around HK after that and decided to call it a night although it seemed things were starting to pick up a little. Figured I would save my money for an all nighter I'm going to pull with another one of my chicas in a couple of days.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Daytonamonger;2963628]Are you sure she said Vamos a comer or did she say Vamos a cojer. 1 letter difference makes a BIG difference in what she was offering. Vamos a cojer means lets go fuck![/QUOTE]Yeah, the way you put it makes sense but she clearly said comer which kind of threw me off. Maybe it was just a freudian slip on her part because she was actually hungry LOL.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2963664]Yeah, the way you put it makes sense but she clearly said comer which kind of threw me off. Maybe it was just a freudian slip on her part because she was actually hungry LOL.[/QUOTE]It could have also been her pick up line since it does make most guys stop and talk to her. For example if she says that and the guy stops to ask her what she wants to eat and my guess is she would say tu or tu verga. These girls have to come up with original ways to get the attention of clients. My last visit had a girl tell me she "wants to fuck me. " Well for me that's just a huge turn off so I just ignored her, but I guess it works for her or she wouldn't be saying it.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2963599]I asked for her name and I believe she said Geisha.[/QUOTE]It's been over a year but I've seen Geisha before. I can't vouch for the swallow part, but I had a good time with her. She's cute, good friendly vibes, would repeat with her.
Normally it's me giving guidance on girl friendly hotels. And do feel free to ask. I've tried quite a few. But I want to solicit the wisdom of the elders here.
Does anyone know of hotels in Tijuana that are both girl friendly and have 1-bedroom suites? Not the kind of suite that is just a larger room like Ticuan or Grand, but are true 1-bedrooms with a separate room and door for the bedroom?
I might be staying a while and I want a separate work area. And I don't want to do Airbnb because those tend to have front desks that make bringing girls in harder (registration). A hotel with separate bedroom would be amazing if anyone knows one.
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2964024]Normally it's me giving guidance on girl friendly hotels. And do feel free to ask. I've tried quite a few. But I want to solicit the wisdom of the elders here.
Does anyone know of hotels in Tijuana that are both girl friendly and have 1-bedroom suites? Not the kind of suite that is just a larger room like Ticuan or Grand, but are true 1-bedrooms with a separate room and door for the bedroom?
I might be staying a while and I want a separate work area. And I don't want to do Airbnb because those tend to have front desks that make bringing girls in harder (registration). A hotel with separate bedroom would be amazing if anyone knows one.[/QUOTE]Cascadas have what you look for in the 9th floor. Did you check? Nice ones too.
Holiday Inn in zona Rio have Master Suites, exactly what you look for. Girl friendly.
These I know about, there would be more I am sure. Wait for others to chime in.
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2964024]Normally it's me giving guidance on girl friendly hotels. And do feel free to ask. I've tried quite a few. But I want to solicit the wisdom of the elders here.
Does anyone know of hotels in Tijuana that are both girl friendly and have 1-bedroom suites? Not the kind of suite that is just a larger room like Ticuan or Grand, but are true 1-bedrooms with a separate room and door for the bedroom?
I might be staying a while and I want a separate work area. And I don't want to do Airbnb because those tend to have front desks that make bringing girls in harder (registration). A hotel with separate bedroom would be amazing if anyone knows one.[/QUOTE]I have stayed in LOTS of AirBnBs around the world. Very few have a front desk. The ones in condo buildings do. Private houses do not. However, many agencies will not send girls to private residences. And the neighbors may not care for hookers traipsing in and out every day. But if you don't make a nuisance of yourself then you'll be OK.
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2964024]Normally it's me giving guidance on girl friendly hotels. And do feel free to ask. I've tried quite a few. But I want to solicit the wisdom of the elders here.
Does anyone know of hotels in Tijuana that are both girl friendly and have 1-bedroom suites? Not the kind of suite that is just a larger room like Ticuan or Grand, but are true 1-bedrooms with a separate room and door for the bedroom?
I might be staying a while and I want a separate work area. And I don't want to do Airbnb because those tend to have front desks that make bringing girls in harder (registration). A hotel with separate bedroom would be amazing if anyone knows one.[/QUOTE]Never needed such a room in Tijuana but in the past would get a junior suite at Pueblo Amigo which is very girl friendly. Looked at the website and if you look at some of the suites it looked like they have what you are looking for. Tijuana has lots of new hotels that are higher end that might work in just not familiar with them.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2964102]Cascadas have what you look for in the 9th floor. Did you check? Nice ones too.
Holiday Inn in zona Rio have Master Suites, exactly what you look for. Girl friendly.
These I know about, there would be more I am sure. Wait for others to chime in.[/QUOTE]Thanks. That's what I just booked.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;2964105]I have stayed in LOTS of AirBnBs around the world. Very few have a front desk. The ones in condo buildings do. Private houses do not. However, many agencies will not send girls to private residences. And the neighbors may not care for hookers traipsing in and out every day. But if you don't make a nuisance of yourself then you'll be OK.[/QUOTE]I've done Airbnb's all over the world too. The problem is that in Tijuana I think all the nice Airbnb's are in towers for security reasons. Which means front desks to keep out unauthorized guests.
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2964165]I've done Airbnb's all over the world too. The problem is that in Tijuana I think all the nice Airbnb's are in towers for security reasons. Which means front desks to keep out unauthorized guests.[/QUOTE]There are loads of nice AirBnBs in private residences. Most are quite nice inside. Of course, none of them are in Centro, or in the Zona Norte.
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2964164]Thanks. That's what I just booked.[/QUOTE]Which one? For how much per night?
I had 4 nights in Tijuana and booked a room as recommended at the Cascada hotel.
When I booked the room I got an email confirming my request, but not a direct confirmation that I had been given a room.
I still got a room even though it was actually fully booked upon arrival. Is it common to get a formal confirmation that you have been given a room? Not only the standard response that I got?
I had an incredibly good experience over the weekend, but Monday and Tuesday were nowhere near as fun. Half the place was closed and there were a lot fewer ladies.
I agree that the girls who work during the day are often better on weekdays.
I never found any girls I liked in Chicago or Tropicana.
I can't stand American throwing dollars at strippers. What's the point of this? They look like the girls think they are cool. Like a stupid hip hop video. It doesn't even look like the girls really think it's that cool.
The hottest ladies charge at least $150, and I had to go up to $200 sometimes with no chance of negotiating the price down.
And no one agreed to a BJ without a condom and no one agreed to kissing. The slightly more tired ladies kissed at the bar, but not the young, nicest ladies.
I also think some of the people working at the hotel at the reception are not very friendly!
A local tipped me off about Deja Vu, a big club a few kilometers towards the border. Great premises, but few and no hot ladies. Wasted!
In the quite big street with Burger King and Domino Pizza, I tried both massage parlors. For only $25-30 I got a good traditional massage in both places. No erotic, but good!
Sone years ago there was a strip club on this street where I had some of my best experiences. The club was about halfway up the street, across from Burger King and into a small corridor and down into a basement with a big stage and rooms for hanky panky. There was a super hot girl named Speransa. Does anyone remember the place and know if the club just moved and if Esperansa is still active somewhere? She has deactivated Facebook and previous phone number.
Up the same street there was also a erotic masage saloon on a corner with hot girls. I could not find it. Permanently gone?
I was very happy with my Tijuana reunion and besides the best FKK clubs in Germany, HK is still a great experience. I can live with covered BJ and the girls not kissing, but is there anything else of the same quality other places?
I had a solid downfall in Mexico City where none of the escort girls had matching pictures and street hookers are a bigger risk and only the girls in Sulivan street will join you to your hotel. The other places the girls have their own hotels and the locals warn about the risks of using the girls' rooms.
I would like to experience more such sexy places like HK and would appreciate suggestions for my next trip. Thanks for help with my Tijuana comeback experience!
[QUOTE=James006;2964259]I had 4 nights in Tijuana and booked a room as recommended at the Cascada hotel.
When I booked the room I got an email confirming my request, but not a direct confirmation that I had been given a room.
I still got a room even though it was actually fully booked upon arrival. Is it common to get a formal confirmation that you have been given a room? Not only the standard response that I got?
I had an incredibly good experience over the weekend, but Monday and Tuesday were nowhere near as fun. Half the place was closed and there were a lot fewer ladies.
I agree that the girls who work during the day are often better on weekdays.
I never found any girls I liked in Chicago or Tropicana.
I can't stand American throwing dollars at strippers. What's the point of this? They look like the girls think they are cool. Like a stupid hip hop video. It doesn't even look like the girls really think it's that cool.
The hottest ladies charge at least $150, and I had to go up to $200 sometimes with no chance of negotiating the price down.
And no one agreed to a BJ without a condom and no one agreed to kissing. The slightly more tired ladies kissed at the bar, but not the young, nicest ladies.
I also think some of the people working at the hotel at the reception are not very friendly!
A local tipped me off about Deja Vu, a big club a few kilometers towards the border. Great premises, but few and no hot ladies. Wasted!
In the quite big street with Burger King and Domino Pizza, I tried both massage parlors. For only $25-30 I got a good traditional massage in both places. No erotic, but good!
Sone years ago there was a strip club on this street where I had some of my best experiences. The club was about halfway up the street, across from Burger King and into a small corridor and down into a basement with a big stage and rooms for hanky panky. There was a super hot girl named Speransa. Does anyone remember the place and know if the club just moved and if Esperansa is still active somewhere? She has deactivated Facebook and previous phone number.
Up the same street there was also a erotic masage saloon on a corner with hot girls. I could not find it. Permanently gone?
I was very happy with my Tijuana reunion and besides the best FKK clubs in Germany, HK is still a great experience. I can live with covered BJ and the girls not kissing, but is there anything else of the same quality other places?
I had a solid downfall in Mexico City where none of the escort girls had matching pictures and street hookers are a bigger risk and only the girls in Sulivan street will join you to your hotel. The other places the girls have their own hotels and the locals warn about the risks of using the girls' rooms.
I would like to experience more such sexy places like HK and would appreciate suggestions for my next trip. Thanks for help with my Tijuana comeback experience![/QUOTE]Not sure what you mean by "I had to go up to $200 sometimes with no chance of negotiating the price down"? And then you went to the room with standard service and no kissing? In other words, you got fleeced. I understand that the shark infested waters are tough to navigate when you're not a regular, and maybe the money isn't much of a concern to you, but I can assure you there is better value to be had. You still need to have a little bit of game when you go there. It's actually kind of difficult to simply "buy" yourself a good experience. The best experiences often times do not correlate with the money spent.
A few pointers for good "game":
1) Be attractive to the women. Even if you aren't the best looking guy you can still dress well and stay in shape. No one want's to be with an unkempt disgusting blob.
2) Project power and confidence. This is what the girls respect. They will respect you more if you stand up for yourself like a man. If you lack confidence or are too nice the sharks will start circling.
3) Learn to negotiate. Sometimes the best negotiation is no negotiation. The more you are asking, "what is the price for this and that", the more transactional it seems, and the girls will start to worry that you can't afford it which makes you seem lower status.
4) A little Spanish doesn't hurt. Again this is tough if you're not a regular, and it's not really a prerequisite (I enjoyed this place for a long time without knowing any Spanish) it does allow the girls to get to know you a little better and feel more at ease with you.
5) Learn to avoid sharks. Again, not easy but you can learn to recognize the signs. Sometimes it's better to avoid the girls that look like "trophy chics" and go for the ones that are a little less self assured and humble. There are actually some incredible looking chics that fall into the later category. If you absolutely need a trophy to add to your shelf, so to speak, you must be resigned to the fact that you may also have to deal with the trophy chic attitude.
Take my last session, for example: This was about 4 am on Monday. I found a new girl sitting by herself at the bar seats by the main stage. I go up to her and invite her for a drink. We go upstairs to the tables that overlook the main stage. The club was relatively empty at this time, with almost no one else in the upper area. Even though the selection is less, your'e chances of getting a slam dunk session go up dramatically if you avoid the prime-time hours. This girl was pretty cute: like a girl next door type with a slender natural body. She told me she was eighteen and I had no reason to doubt her. She kept wanting to use her translator even when I assured her that I understood what she was saying and was speaking to her in Spanishbut she finally caught on. She apparently has had a bit of a hard life in Tijuana, or so she said, which put a bit of a downer on the conversation. I figured I could ease her pain by fucking her brains out. She was also a little bit standoffish as we were talking, so I was kind of on the fence as to whether to take her to the room. I decided, at one point, to just lean in and kiss her to see how she would react. Bingo. We were making out like crazy which confirmed that a room visit would be forthcoming.
The vip room discount on Monday and Tuesday as basically the only time you are not being ripped off for the room. It's actually a pretty good deal. We went to my room at Rizo. I like Rizo because I feel like I am being watched by big brother at Cascadas. Rizo, on the other hand, is more like little brother. We get to the room and we are still kissing. At one point she asks if I want to use a condom and I'm like "no". After that it was pretty much unrestricted girlfriend sex, if you know what I mean. We finished and she was like, let's cuddle on the bed for a bit. So we did just that and within about 5 minutes she was asleep. We lay there for what had to be 30-40 minutes and nobody called or came knocking, so I finally had to wake her up. I told her I had to head out because I had things to do in the afternoon. I left $160 on the table, which in my mind includes a generous tip for being a cool girl and giving me GFE. There had been no discussion of money up until this point. We leave the room and I walk her back to HK, and with a kiss on the cheek, we part ways.
This is not a one off thing either. I get these type of sessions more often than not. The key, I think, is to project yourself as someone who is actually desirable to be with, not just someone looking to trade sex for money. This won't work for everyone, of course, because some guys are simply not desirable, for whatever reason. However, you can always improve yourself to some extent. Myself, Iv'e always been pretty popular with women in latin america, who seem to view me as something of a rare commodity. This kind of "exotic factor" doesn't carry over to the US, of course, which is why I greatly prefer latin america. HK and latin america in general is like the gift that keeps on giving.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2964281] I left $160 on the table, which in my mind includes a generous tip for being a cool girl and giving me GFE. There had been no discussion of money up until this point. We leave the room and I walk her back to HK, and with a kiss on the cheek, we part ways.
This is not a one off thing either. I get these type of sessions more often than not. [/QUOTE]Well I get that type of service for $100.00 No need to advise others to pay $160 for a 30 minute sessions. Which it seems you had, with the rest time spent sleeping.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2964245]Which one? For how much per night?[/QUOTE]Holiday inn 1 bed suite. 210/ night. Pricey for Tijuana but nice to have a room.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2964292]Well I get that type of service for $100.00 No need to advise others to pay $160 for a 30 minute sessions. Which it seems you had, with the rest time spent sleeping.[/QUOTE]Not sure he was "advising", just letting us know of his experience. HK is what it is, I was quoted everything from $100 to $180. After years of spending well over $200 for non GFE service, the high end of $180 wasn't shocking to me. I did see the one that quoted me $180, she was IMO the by far the hottest woman in the club so I had no problem with $180. A woman like that would be starting at $700 in the US, probably more. I didn't try to negotiate and I believe it was the reason I received outstanding GFE service, along with the fact the lots of other guys probably would rather pay $100 for someone else so she's probably not as popular / busy and she only works early afternoon - 7:30 PM. After seeing her, saw 3 others, $120 and two for $140 each.
This was my first visit to HK, now that I know what's going on there I have a strategy. I'm in the club to hunt, not to hang out. I will not sit down again and have to deal with every woman jumping in my lap followed by one of the waiters (forgot what they are called) in my face for drinks. I will come in, walk around, find the one I want, not buy a drink and take her to the hotel. I figured I spent over $300 on drinks over 2 days, most of that on the first day. I got a bottle of Tequila and some beer, every woman had a few shots or a beer with me in the room.
I'm also planning on visiting Sunday-Tuesday, sure there are less woman, not sure how true it is but I heard that if they work on they weekends, they are required to work on either Monday or Tuesday. I prefer when strip clubs are not completely jam packed. I was there on a Sunday, it was fine, had serious problems deciding who I wanted so see, plus the rooms are cheaper, really cheap if you have a VIP card.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2964292]Well I get that type of service for $100.00 No need to advise others to pay $160 for a 30 minute sessions. Which it seems you had, with the rest time spent sleeping.[/QUOTE]Hi Zenduka,
To each his own, but here are my pricing guidelines. Keep in mind, these are the prices I will pay without having negotiated with the girl beforehand. I think I've mentioned before that I don't like to haggle with the girls over the prices because, for me, it kills the vibe. I may also be willing to pay a slight premium just for not having to haggle. I'm not in the position where I need to count every penny, and my objective is not necessarily to minimize the cost, but instead, to maximize the experience to cost ratio.
Unsatisfactory session: $100.
If you do the session with the girl, you really can't get away with paying less than 100. I mean you potentially can. But it's not worth the hassle. The girls expect at least 100 nowadays and to give less will make them upset and cause problems, not to mention making you look cheap. That being said, there are a few times where we've gotten to the room and I felt something wasn't right, so I've sent them away with like $20. This was before we had done anything, of course.
Standard session with no extras: $120.
If the girl at least tried and was nice but offered no extras this is what I will pay. I consider this the standard rate with no tip. Also, I typically won't repeat with these type of girls.
Session with extras: $140 and up.
If she gives you extra services, spends more time, etc. Then I like to tip. I think there is a sweet spot where you are being generous but not overly generous. Like, I wouldn't give a girl $300 under any circumstances, because it starts to look like you are compensating for something.
Of course, drinks add to the total above, as does the room price. But, all in all, we are down there banging young hot chics for what is not significantly more than the price of dinner drinks and a movie. It's a pretty good deal, any way you look at it.
[QUOTE=Dac007;2964368]Not sure he was "advising", just letting us know of his experience. HK is what it is, I was quoted everything from $100 to $180. After years of spending well over $200 for non GFE service, the high end of $180 wasn't shocking to me. I did see the one that quoted me $180, she was IMO the by far the hottest woman in the club so I had no problem with $180. A woman like that would be starting at $700 in the US, probably more. I didn't try to negotiate and I believe it was the reason I received outstanding GFE service, along with the fact the lots of other guys probably would rather pay $100 for someone else so she's probably not as popular / busy and she only works early afternoon - 7:30 PM. After seeing her, saw 3 others, $120 and two for $140 each.
This was my first visit to HK, now that I know what's going on there I have a strategy. I'm in the club to hunt, not to hang out. I will not sit down again and have to deal with every woman jumping in my lap followed by one of the waiters (forgot what they are called) in my face for drinks. I will come in, walk around, find the one I want, not buy a drink and take her to the hotel. I figured I spent over $300 on drinks over 2 days, most of that on the first day. I got a bottle of Tequila and some beer, every woman had a few shots or a beer with me in the room.
.[/QUOTE]Fine by me. Go ahead and pay them the price. I will continue playing the right game and get the best sentiments out of these girls by not appearing like a stupid, wide eyed, sex starved monger from dick prison USA.
Here is a tip for you specially. The second they sense you are not the negotiating type the girls see you as someone they can ride on and their attitude change, so will the service you may get. You will end up getting a shitty service than not.
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2964336]Holiday inn 1 bed suite. 210/ night. Pricey for Tijuana but nice to have a room.[/QUOTE]I think the Cascadas 9th Floor Single Suites are much nicer with tubs and right there in the Zona if you want to get girls. Not sure what days you are staying but you get a 70% descuenta on Mondays and Tuesdays with VIP, from the regular $360 / night and 20% for the rest of the days. Friday and Saturday the prices are steeper. In any case you have your reasons, good you found one that fits your needs.
Went down to Tijuana on Sunday, got back yesterday. So was there for 4 nights total. I saw five girls total: Passion, Aphrodita, Summer, Sylvana, and Chanel. Aphrodita and Chanel were both absolute sweethearts. Aphrodita has perfect natural breasts which she was happy to rub in my face, while Chanel has one of the best butts I've seen on a HK girl.
Sylvana I found a bit difficult. She demanded the most money ($130), insisted that I buy lube at the Cascadas reception, insisted that I give her a beer from the minifridge, wouldn't let me do my favorite position, and covered her breasts with her hands / kept one hand on the condom. Would not repeat.
Had one bizarre experience which made me angry. Was a block or two from HK on my way to the pharmacy. A cop stopped me - for no reason at all - and frisked me, making me put my hands on the wall while he checked my pockets, supposedly looking for drugs or weapons. He took my wallet and opened it but did not take anything. As I left the pharmacy I saw him doing this to another man. WTF. Stupid 3rd world bullshit.
Overall, I didn't enjoy this trip quite as much as I usually do. Prices have definitely gone up, and I felt like the overall quality of girls has slightly decreased. There are fewer young spinners. The nonstop blaring music and elbowing through the hordes of mongers gets old very quickly. I also got a sore throat on the last day which definitely put a damper on the trip.
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;2964462]Went down to Tijuana on Sunday, got back yesterday. So was there for 4 nights total. I saw five girls total: Passion, Aphrodita, Summer, Sylvana, and Chanel. Aphrodita and Chanel were both absolute sweethearts. Aphrodita has perfect natural breasts which she was happy to rub in my face, while Chanel has one of the best butts I've seen on a HK girl.
Sylvana I found a bit difficult. She demanded the most money ($130), insisted that I buy lube at the Cascadas reception, insisted that I give her a beer from the minifridge, wouldn't let me do my favorite position, and covered her breasts with her hands / kept one hand on the condom. Would not repeat.
Had one bizarre experience which made me angry. Was a block or two from HK on my way to the pharmacy. A cop stopped me - for no reason at all - and frisked me, making me put my hands on the wall while he checked my pockets, supposedly looking for drugs or weapons. He took my wallet and opened it but did not take anything. As I left the pharmacy I saw him doing this to another man. WTF. Stupid 3rd world bullshit.
Overall, I didn't enjoy this trip quite as much as I usually do. Prices have definitely gone up, and I felt like the overall quality of girls has slightly decreased. There are fewer young spinners. The nonstop blaring music and elbowing through the hordes of mongers gets old very quickly. I also got a sore throat on the last day which definitely put a damper on the trip.[/QUOTE]Sylvana I found a bit difficult. She demanded the most money ($130), insisted that I buy lube at the Cascadas reception, insisted that I give her a beer from the minifridge, wouldn't let me do my favorite position, and covered her breasts with her hands / kept one hand on the condom. Would not repeat.
Her type is why I always make the time to vet the girls before I decide to take up. They will mess up your day those types even though you pay them more than the average. They are entitled and believe every guy that steps in that club is a sick maggot. They do. Anyway every bad session is a learning experience. Take a note of any clue she may have given you and don't glaze over them next time.
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Had one bizarre experience which made me angry. Was a block or two from HK on my way to the pharmacy. A cop stopped me. For no reason at all. And frisked me, making me put my hands on the wall while he checked my pockets, supposedly looking for drugs or weapons. He took my wallet and opened it but did not take anything. As I left the pharmacy I saw him doing this to another man. WTF. Stupid 3rd world bullshit.
This never ever happened to me. Nor did I ever see it happen to anyone, let alone mongers. Was it late at night or early in the morning like between 6 and 7 AM?
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;2964462]Had one bizarre experience which made me angry. Was a block or two from HK on my way to the pharmacy. A cop stopped me - for no reason at all - and frisked me, making me put my hands on the wall while he checked my pockets, supposedly looking for drugs or weapons. He took my wallet and opened it but did not take anything. As I left the pharmacy I saw him doing this to another man. WTF. Stupid 3rd world bullshit.[/QUOTE]As many of you know, if you go to Tijuana enough, this is inevitable. Happened to me a couple of weeks ago as well. They stop you for no reason. Ask you about drugs, etc. Look in your car and in your wallet. But the weirdest thing to me is that they actually didn't take anything or try to fuck around with you. Back in the day, you would be parted with some of your money for sure, or some bogus charge would be made against and they would threaten to take you to the station if you did not pay up. Have the cops gotten nicer, softer, less corrupt? Maybe nowadays they are actually looking for drugs and other contraband to begin the process of milking you for money. They seemed somewhat disappointed when they didn't find anything on me, and then sent me on my way! I still to this day carry almost all my cash in my shoe as a precaution.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2964489]As many of you know, if you go to Tijuana enough, this is inevitable. Happened to me a couple of weeks ago as well. They stop you for no reason. Ask you about drugs, etc. Look in your car and in your wallet. But the weirdest thing to me is that they actually didn't take anything or try to fuck around with you. Back in the day, you would be parted with some of your money for sure, or some bogus charge would be made against and they would threaten to take you to the station if you did not pay up. Have the cops gotten nicer, softer, less corrupt? Maybe nowadays they are actually looking for drugs and other contraband to begin the process of milking you for money. They seemed somewhat disappointed when they didn't find anything on me, and then sent me on my way! I still to this day carry almost all my cash in my shoe as a precaution.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry to hear that. But to be fair, you own some of this. You drive a car into Tijuana, probably with American plates, you know what you're going to get.
I'm not the smartest guy in the room. But in Tijuana I take Ubers everywhere. Only walk a few blocks in well traveled areas. Never put myself in a position to even interact with cops or thugs. Stay in nice hotels, eat nice restaurants, go to fine establishments like Hk. If you're in a position to be pulled over in the first place, in a place with such a history of corruption, well you can't ask a flea ridden dog to not give you fleas.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2964487]Sylvana I found a bit difficult. She demanded the most money ($130), insisted that I buy lube at the Cascadas reception, insisted that I give her a beer from the minifridge, wouldn't let me do my favorite position, and covered her breasts with her hands / kept one hand on the condom. Would not repeat.
Her type is why I always make the time to vet the girls before I decide to take up. They will mess up your day those types even though you pay them more than the average. They are entitled and believe every guy that steps in that club is a sick maggot. They do. Anyway every bad session is a learning experience. Take a note of any clue she may have given you and don't glaze over them next time.
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Had one bizarre experience which made me angry. Was a block or two from HK on my way to the pharmacy. A cop stopped me. For no reason at all. And frisked me, making me put my hands on the wall while he checked my pockets, supposedly looking for drugs or weapons. He took my wallet and opened it but did not take anything. As I left the pharmacy I saw him doing this to another man. WTF. Stupid 3rd world bullshit.
This never ever happened to me. Nor did I ever see it happen to anyone, let alone mongers. Was it late at night or early in the morning like between 6 and 7 AM?[/QUOTE]Sylvana didn't give me any strange vibes when I "interviewed" her. We had a good rapport in the booths. She was quite good-looking, maybe the best looker of the girls I took up. I've heard that the hotter ones often act more entitled and give worse service, since they are more confident about finding other customers. It's odd though, I have had great sessions with 9's and 10's.
Regarding the cop: it was late, definitely after 10 pm. Probably happened around 11 or 11:30 pm. I was pissed and relieved that ultimately nothing came of it.
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;2964491]Sylvana didn't give me any strange vibes when I "interviewed" her. We had a good rapport in the booths. She was quite good-looking, maybe the best looker of the girls I took up. I've heard that the hotter ones often act more entitled and give worse service, since they are more confident about finding other customers. It's odd though, I have had great sessions with 9's and 10's.
[/QUOTE]Yes those top, cream of the cream girls are a flag. They want top dollar and the service is shitty. If I go past this initial down point ever, I make them hop through a series of tests, not only in the club but during the walk to the room, reason why I like Rizo for that, for the long walk. The slightest hint I see, I am out. Only good vibes are acceptable, no demands, no rules, not a shred of attitude. Even when I tease the crap out of them, including calling them "fea", I called one such girl "la patita fea" and showed her a pic of the ugly duck on my phone. She laughed holding her mouth. Told her she is bone skinny and that she needs to eat more Tacos. She hopped on my back and carried her to the club exit. I had one of the best sessions with her, took many photos, paid her $100+20 propina after the deed.
There are times I left these snobby types right in the middle of the road, at the door of the hotel room, in the stairs. I never get too horny, never get too needy. This way I have lowered the bad sessions to almost 0, that used to ruin my trips all the time. I learned it the hard way.
Women are emotional even the most hardened hustlers. If they are ready (they have to be ready) and you rub that soft emotional nature of theirs they will follow you to hell.
My issue now is that new mongers paying $150,160. 200 and ruining the game for everyone.
[QUOTE=Emeritus;2962923]Haven't been to Tijuana in many many years would like to go down there and check it out and have some fun would like to go with somebody that's been going there a while kind of knows what's up thanks peace.[/QUOTE]I'm not seasoned but if you're up for trying out Tijuana for the first time with a partner, join me. I'm heading there Monday evening. Can meet you at HK if you want.
Been mongering in Tijuana since 2012. I basically know the ropes and how to stay out of trouble. However, 2 weeks ago I had my first encounter with cops. Minding my own business. Got pulled out of my uber ride by police on my way back to the border. Didn't bother the driver, but made me get out and put my hands on the wall in some alley while they frisked me. Took an unverified number of bills from my pockets. Opened my wallet but left the cards and passports there. Then let me go back into the uber.
Could've been a LOT worse but it left a very bad taste in my mouth and made me realize how easily you can get fucked over in Tijuana even if you didn't do anything wrong. What if they had taken my passport / credit cards / sentri. That wouldv'e been disastrous. Mongering is fun which is why I'm addicted to it, but this goes to remind you that Mexico Tijuana is still dangerous as fuck even for the experienced mongers.
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;2964462]Had one bizarre experience which made me angry. Was a block or two from HK on my way to the pharmacy. A cop stopped me - for no reason at all - and frisked me, making me put my hands on the wall while he checked my pockets, supposedly looking for drugs or weapons. He took my wallet and opened it but did not take anything. As I left the pharmacy I saw him doing this to another man. WTF. Stupid 3rd world shit.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't consider "Stop and frisk" a third world thing. It was very useful and productive in NYC and for other areas with high crime rates. Yes it can be discouraging thinking that you are being targeted for not doing anything but that is kind of the point. The new mayor is trying to promote Centro more and they have had many shootings in the area so police are going to be more present and stop more individuals so they keep criminals away. If the police just stopped and searched you without taking anything you shouldn't care because they are actually doing what they are supposed to be doing. Especially given the area you were in and the time of night.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2964489]As many of you know, if you go to Tijuana enough, this is inevitable. Happened to me a couple of weeks ago as well. They stop you for no reason. Ask you about drugs, etc. Look in your car and in your wallet. But the weirdest thing to me is that they actually didn't take anything or try to fuck around with you. Back in the day, you would be parted with some of your money for sure, or some bogus charge would be made against and they would threaten to take you to the station if you did not pay up. Have the cops gotten nicer, softer, less corrupt? Maybe nowadays they are actually looking for drugs and other contraband to begin the process of milking you for money. They seemed somewhat disappointed when they didn't find anything on me, and then sent me on my way! I still to this day carry almost all my cash in my shoe as a precaution.[/QUOTE]This happened to me in 1984 so, yes, been happening for ages.
[QUOTE=Sol12;2964531]I wouldn't consider "Stop and frisk" a third world thing. It was very useful and productive in NYC and for other areas with high crime rates. Yes it can be discouraging thinking that you are being targeted for not doing anything but that is kind of the point. The new mayor is trying to promote Centro more and they have had many shootings in the area so police are going to be more present and stop more individuals so they keep criminals away. If the police just stopped and searched you without taking anything you shouldn't care because they are actually doing what they are supposed to be doing. Especially given the area you were in and the time of night.[/QUOTE]Taken out of uber and frisked is something I would never accept. The Policia, if they get you in some obscure area they will rob you. This is how the story goes. If the mayor wants to clean the place up the first thing she should do is encourage tourists by assuring their safety. Getting passengers out of uber while leaving the driver is not one of those actions.
Stop and search or Terry-stop without a probable suspicion is anti-constitutional in the USA. A mayor has to provide a specific and objective reason for it in court or the city could go bankrupt in a flash. This activity was extremely controversial in New York as I remember. Zealous cops were abusing citizens who were victims of the violence themselves.
Reminds me of some African country led by a military junta that required citizens to hold a pass permit to move around in their city. This is what is happening in Ukraine cities now, by the way. If you are combat age person (18 to 60 now I believe) and you have no pass permit and caught in the city you will be grabbed and sent to camp.
In any case what we can do is talk about it in forums like this and spread the story, maybe the mayor gets the message and change course.
[QUOTE=ABAJoeSmith123;2964530]Been mongering in Tijuana since 2012. I basically know the ropes and how to stay out of trouble. However, 2 weeks ago I had my first encounter with cops. Minding my own business. Got pulled out of my uber ride by police on my way back to the border. Didn't bother the driver, but made me get out and put my hands on the wall in some alley while they frisked me. Took an unverified number of bills from my pockets. Opened my wallet but left the cards and passports there. Then let me go back into the uber.
Could've been a LOT worse but it left a very bad taste in my mouth and made me realize how easily you can get fucked over in Tijuana even if you didn't do anything wrong. What if they had taken my passport / credit cards / sentri. That wouldv'e been disastrous. Mongering is fun which is why I'm addicted to it, but this goes to remind you that Mexico Tijuana is still dangerous as fuck even for the experienced mongers.[/QUOTE]It has been posted many times, on this board and others, that before you are searched you put your money into your HAND. The cops have no right to touch your money.
I have heard no credible reports of cops stealing SENTRI cards or passports. They are of little use to them. That should be the least of your worries.
The thing that concerns me the most is them stopping an Uber. That is very rare, and very odd.
The object lesson that everyone can take from this is that Tijuana is NOT Disneyland for adults. The Zona Norte is a fetid cesspool of thieves, liars, addicts, drugs, and seriously bent cops. One goes there at one's own risk, and one needs to plan, in advance, for the potential consequences.
Thanks for the good feedback.
Would it be an advantage not to discuss the price with the girls before she asks for the money in the room? I only go for very hot ladies and am prepared for both more expensive and less willing girls, but I am working on the matter and am happy for your good advice.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2964420]Fine by me. Go ahead and pay them the price. I will continue playing the right game and get the best sentiments out of these girls by not appearing like a stupid, wide eyed, sex starved monger from dick prison USA.
Here is a tip for you specially. The second they sense you are not the negotiating type the girls see you as someone they can ride on and their attitude change, so will the service you may get. You will end up getting a shitty service than not.[/QUOTE]Not sure I'm "playing the game wrong" as you suggest. On the other side of the coin, maybe girls will see a guy who isn't negotiating as someone not trying to low ball them, appreciate that and will give better service. I also think not being an asshole or extremely dominant works in my favor. The one I paid the most for definitely gave me the best service, not even close. Not sure why you expect every woman to be the same price, that's like going to a car dealership and being insulted when a Mercedes costs more than a Nissan. Like I said, she was far and away the hottest in the club on that day IMO and from the reactions I got, others felt the same way. When I walked out with her every guy was looking at me giving me that "hell yeah" nod. The guys working at the hotel reacted the same way, they did not with the others I took to my room. My favorite reaction was from a couple of guys sitting at the lobby bar at Rizo De Oro, one said "holy shit, she's hot", the other just couldn't stop staring, smiling and said "you the fucking man dude". And this was with her wearing the robe so you couldn't even see how hot her body was.
I'm not stupid and understand the game, like I said earlier, she was the hottest one in the club so she can set her rates higher, there was not one other woman I saw in my two days there that I would spend that much on. When I returned to HK, she was about to go home, we chatted for a bit, threw some bucks when she danced and so did everybody else. At least 5 guys came to me asking about her and every single one said the same thing. I wanted t see her, she's the hottest one in here but I'm trying to see 3-4 per day and her price was too high, I can see two for that. Me, on the other hand, look for quality over quantity so I'm very selective. Some guys don't give a damn about what her face looks like, as long as she's got nice tits and ass, that's not me. It took me 2 minutes of chatting with her to decide I had to see her. Aside from her, there were only one or two that got me really excited and none the way she did. Every other one I saw was after walking through the club for an hour or so trying to decide who I wanted to see, this is when price became a factor, most of them were pretty much the same on my scale so it was about height, hair color who had the best / freakiest attitude and ultimately, price. BTW, I negotiated with none of the 4 women I saw, 1 provided great service, 3 provided incredible service.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;2964667]It has been posted many times, on this board and others, that before you are searched you put your money into your HAND. The cops have no right to touch your money.
I have heard no credible reports of cops stealing SENTRI cards or passports. They are of little use to them. That should be the least of your worries.
The thing that concerns me the most is them stopping an Uber. That is very rare, and very odd.
The object lesson that everyone can take from this is that Tijuana is NOT Disneyland for adults. The Zona Norte is a fetid cesspool of thieves, liars, addicts, drugs, and seriously bent cops. One goes there at one's own risk, and one needs to plan, in advance, for the potential consequences.[/QUOTE]My buddy got a guy that works for one of the hotels come pick us up in San Ysidro. $50 but worth not having to hassle with the taxi's. He gave us all the tips before we headed across the border. Told ups to remove any small personal belongings from our luggage. Phones, cash, jewelry, etc. Anything that could be taken and put in a pocket without us noticing. And gave us one of those Coke cans that has a secret compartment to hide our cash. He didn't anticipate an issues but wanted us to be prepared. Before we crossed, he got out and put his HK / Cascadas / Rizo sign on his Yukon, told us they rarely stop him with that. Well worth the money. He won't take you across the border back into the US however.
One thing he told us about the police is that things are changing and the younger officers are far less likely to harass you but the old school ones who have been doing that for years can be a problem. At breakfast one morning we saw the hottest officer I've ever seen in my life. She was about 5'11", beautiful with an incredible body that you could see through her uniform. She reminded me of those role play porn movies where the actress is a cop! I wanted to sneak a pic but there was no way I was going to do that. Started to ask her but decided not to.
Has it happened to anyone where the sex was too long and too vigouros that the girl said she was starting to hurt? Nothing a long the lines of rough sex, but it just took you a while to cum and perhaps you were a little larger than what she could handle for a longer duration?
If so, is there a pro-rated dollar amount to get back if you didn't cum? Or anyone finish via other means like a handjob or BJ? Or a dance on the floor or something?
[QUOTE=Dac007;2964828] Not sure why you expect every woman to be the same price, that's like going to a car dealership and being insulted when a Mercedes costs more than a Nissan.
[/QUOTE]This is where you and I fundamentally differ. As a principle all women I select are the same in that I pay them the same amount of money. Anyone I select and willing to go for the reasonable price I want to pay will be selected, when I am ready. I never pay based on looks, at all. The second I reason to pay her more based on her hotness is when I lose in more way than one.
Basically this is what I do, I go to the club, I approach the ladies I like based on looks and body language, I evaluate the attitude through playful banter and then I offer my price. Most times I get them agree on a price, to meet later in the day and exchange numbers. I get so many hot women as such, sometimes I don't even know what to do with the phone numbers. Usually what is agreed that day would not work if a day passes, you got to work on it again.
Mind you I can pay the prices you pay, my issue is paying that much will change the women's attitude about me. Treat them average, they will give you excellent service.
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2964490]I'm sorry to hear that. But to be fair, you own some of this. You drive a car into Tijuana, probably with American plates, you know what you're going to get.
I'm not the smartest guy in the room. But in Tijuana I take Ubers everywhere. Only walk a few blocks in well traveled areas. Never put myself in a position to even interact with cops or thugs. Stay in nice hotels, eat nice restaurants, go to fine establishments like Hk. If you're in a position to be pulled over in the first place, in a place with such a history of corruption, well you can't ask a flea ridden dog to not give you fleas.[/QUOTE]You're right. You do make yourself more of a target driving a car. I'm just used to it.
That being said, I've been stopped by the cops driving. I've been stopped by the cops walking. Iv'e even been stopped by the cops taking a cab ride, believe it or not. There really is no safe zone, as far as I know. Sure, if you're at the Plaza Rio they're not going to bother you, but if you go in the zone norte, there is always some risk. Also, I'm kind of easy for them to profile because it's obvious I'm a gringo. It's more of a hassle than anything. I haven't had any money stolen from me in years. Back in the day, it was a different story.
[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;2964923]Has it happened to anyone where the sex was too long and too vigorous that the girl said she was starting to hurt? Nothing a long the lines of rough sex, but it just took you a while to cum and perhaps you were a little larger than what she could handle for a longer duration?
If so, is there a pro-rated dollar amount to get back if you didn't cum? Or anyone finish via other means like a hand job or BJ? Or a dance on the floor or something?[/QUOTE]I remember I fucked one of my ATFs that worked at Adelitas at that time. She stayed the whole night with me in Hotel Coahuila and I fucked her brains out 4 times through out the night. I was kind of high on Marijuana at the time and had a raging hard on for her. She is a tiny and short spinner, but she can take a good pounding in multiple positions, the problem is that after the fourth time she had to call it quits. I rubbed her pussy raw on the inside. On the fourth fuck she was squealing and crying like a stuck pig, but I came hard inside her after a few minutes. I am a gentleman and didn't want to hurt her, but she had to take a day off from work after that.
Driving in Tijuana is just not worth the hassle and is cheaper to walk or Uber. When I visit Tijuana I usually take nyaxi vans. Or take Uber if it is catch the taxi van. The taxi vans only cost 20 pesos. You can catch white. & purpel stripe. Or white & blue stripe. The taxi vans run until. 10 pm. The only downside is that they are crowded sometimes. Most of the time it is faster to walk. Back across the border.
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[QUOTE=HKMonger;2964982]You're right. You do make yourself more of a target driving a car. I'm just used to it.
That being said, I've been stopped by the cops driving. I've been stopped by the cops walking. Iv'e even been stopped by the cops taking a cab ride, believe it or not. There really is no safe zone, as far as I know. Sure, if you're at the Plaza Rio they're not going to bother you, but if you go in the zone norte, there is always some risk. Also, I'm kind of easy for them to profile because it's obvious I'm a gringo. It's more of a hassle than anything. I haven't had any money stolen from me in years. Back in the day, it was a different story.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;2964923]Has it happened to anyone where the sex was too long and too vigouros that the girl said she was starting to hurt? Nothing a long the lines of rough sex, but it just took you a while to cum and perhaps you were a little larger than what she could handle for a longer duration?
If so, is there a pro-rated dollar amount to get back if you didn't cum? Or anyone finish via other means like a handjob or BJ? Or a dance on the floor or something?[/QUOTE]She is on the clock but doesn't mean you will ravage her until time's up specially when she is not enjoying it. Be reasonable about it and if you can't cum with some effort and she is not up to it, stop and let her go.
Besides, cumming is not the point, at least for me unless it is the first or last girl of the trip. If you are past 40, basically cumming will kill your mood after the ecstasy is over. Focus on the love making with a person that attracts you, not on ejaculating. You can ejaculate watching porn after she leaves, if that is so important. Look at her, touch her, adore her feminine scent , kiss her body, talk to her, smile at her, feel her, connect with her, dance with her, at least some of the above. If you have selected the right girl you can have a good experience. If you are with a street girl you can forget all about that.
In any case you can make her stay more with additional money usually that can only be based on how much more you want her to stay. The girls would want double pay for double time, specially street girls. SG's can be with you for hours if you continue extending that way. If she is a Bar girl in the zona, she can't be there more than an hour. You will also be required to pay additional for the room if you are in it for short time.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2964945]Most times I get them agree on a price, to meet later in the day and exchange numbers.[/QUOTE]Are you saying that at the club you arrange to meet them after work hours, at another hotel, cutting out HK? If so, does HK not get pissed off? Or is it easy to do without them knowing?
[QUOTE=SeaBeeJoe;2964988]On the fourth fuck she was squealing and crying like a stuck pig, but I came hard inside her after a few minutes. I am a gentleman and didn't want to hurt her.[/QUOTE]And they say chivalry is dead. I guess we have different definitions of what a gentleman is.
[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;2964923]Has it happened to anyone where the sex was too long and too vigouros that the girl said she was starting to hurt? Nothing a long the lines of rough sex, but it just took you a while to cum and perhaps you were a little larger than what she could handle for a longer duration?
If so, is there a pro-rated dollar amount to get back if you didn't cum? Or anyone finish via other means like a handjob or BJ? Or a dance on the floor or something?[/QUOTE]There is now rule book on what to do in those situations. You basically pay for her service for up to 30 minutes some guys finish quick and the girl bails some might stay and hang out the full time. If you don't finish in the 30 minutes that's your problem and you are still required to pay the full amount. This is why some girls want the money upfront because guys that don't finish think they don't have to pay.
I often drink way to much so find it difficult to finish so many times I will finish manually and they might try helping me by blowing me or fingering their pussy it really depends what I ask them to do. I always pay what I feel is fare at least $100 no matter if I finish inside of them or manually.
In the case of the girl tapping out because of a guys size the two of you have to come to an agreed amount price and if neither of you can agree you might call a manager to be the mediator. In general if you are a guy that is larger than most and you've had this issue I would bring it up down in the club and let the girl decide if she can handle it. Had a buddy that was very large and would always let the girl know ahead of time. This hurt the number of girls he could go with but he didn't want the girl running out of the room when she saw what was coming.
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2964490]I'm sorry to hear that. But to be fair, you own some of this. You drive a car into Tijuana, probably with American plates, you know what you're going to get.
I'm not the smartest guy in the room. But in Tijuana I take Ubers everywhere. Only walk a few blocks in well traveled areas. Never put myself in a position to even interact with cops or thugs. Stay in nice hotels, eat nice restaurants, go to fine establishments like Hk. If you're in a position to be pulled over in the first place, in a place with such a history of corruption, well you can't ask a flea ridden dog to not give you fleas.[/QUOTE]Hogwash. He owns none of that, unless he was driving through the ZN, half-drunk, at 3 am.
If you drive around a bit you'll see loads of cars with CA plates. The cops can't stop all of them, and they don't try.
I only drive in Tijuana. I just have a couple of rules. I will not drive through the ZN at night. Too many drunk gringos come out of bars and hop into their cars. It's a target-rich environment, as they say. When the clubbing starts, the car gets parked and I take Uber everywhere, I don't need any DUI hassle. And, I try to limit my driving at night. Partially because it limits exposure to bored cops, but mostly because the streets are so shitty and it's hard for me to see all the giant potholes at night. I've already had to repair one bent wheel, I don't want more.
OTOH, driving is akin to Death Race 2000. So, if you're not comfortable driving in "controlled chaos" then it's best to stick to Uber.
[QUOTE=FlawlessZeal;2965089]Are you saying that at the club you arrange to meet them after work hours, at another hotel, cutting out HK? If so, does HK not get pissed off? Or is it easy to do without them knowing?[/QUOTE]That's the way the locals do it. When in Rome.
[QUOTE=FlawlessZeal;2965089]Are you saying that at the club you arrange to meet them after work hours, at another hotel, cutting out HK? If so, does HK not get pissed off? Or is it easy to do without them knowing?[/QUOTE]Had girls after their shift is over or before their shift begun. If you are in a hotel close by her apartment or hotel, it is even better. For that to happen though you got to have a solid rapport with the girl. I had SG's and BG's come to my hotel rooms outside of the zona, also.
The clubs don't like it and try to do their best to discourage it. E. g, few years ago they started forcing you buy bucket of ficha if the girl comes to your room which is attached to a club she works, even if she is off shift. Now they are even checking girls who stay in the same hotel as you and just walk to your room. If they see them, they will stop and ask and then ask for the dude to buy a ficha to see the girl. If the hotel is not attached to the club she works in, and she is off shift then there is nothing they can do.
Generally though, when I wrote "later", I meant later that day while she is on her shift. Usually when I am searching for the right woman, I am not even ready to have sex. So I collect numbers and arrange for time, like in 1 or 2 hours, etc. Very possible outside of peak days and hours. I use it to extend the rapport using the text interaction. The other way to create a good rapport is sitting and buying fichas, which is something I hate doing.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2965120]Had girls after their shift is over or before their shift begun. If you are in a hotel close by her apartment or hotel, it is even better. For that to happen though you got to have a solid rapport with the girl. I had SG's and BG's come to my hotel rooms outside of the zona, also.
The clubs don't like it and try to do their best to discourage it. E. g, few years ago they started forcing you buy bucket of ficha if the girl comes to your room which is attached to a club she works, even if she is off shift. Now they are even checking girls who stay in the same hotel as you and just walk to your room. If they see them, they will stop and ask and then ask for the dude to buy a ficha to see the girl. If the hotel is not attached to the club she works in, and she is off shift then there is nothing they can do.
Generally though, when I wrote "later", I meant later that day while she is on her shift. Usually when I am searching for the right woman, I am not even ready to have sex. So I collect numbers and arrange for time, like in 1 or 2 hours, etc. Very possible outside of peak days and hours. I use it to extend the rapport using the text interaction. The other way to create a good rapport is sitting and buying fichas, which is something I hate doing.[/QUOTE]Damn I miss the days like 15 years ago when the 5th floor of cascadas was the chicas' floor. You could just roam the halls and poke your head into their rooms when they were chilling on their bed eating cheetos in their pj's.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2965017] Besides, cumming is not the point, ... . You can ejaculate watching porn after she leaves, if that is so important.
Look at her, touch her, adore her feminine scent , kiss her body, talk to her, smile at her, feel her, connect with her, dance with her, at least some of the above. If you have selected the right girl you can have a good experience.
If you are with a street girl you can forget all about that.[/QUOTE]I agree 100% that ejaculation is not the goal and all the other fun stuff you wrote about to enjoy the gals.
If you get a street girl for an hour you can enjoy all of that too. And I do. I. E, with my street girl I always start with dancing & often sex does not start till after about 30 minutes.
[QUOTE=MikeyVee123;2965123]Damn I miss the days like 15 years ago when the 5th floor of cascadas was the chicas' floor. You could just roam the halls and poke your head into their rooms when they were chilling on their bed eating cheetos in their pj's.[/QUOTE]I as well as a buddy of mine used to take girls in their PJ's we meet in the hallways of Rizo to our rooms before the pandemic. Now it is not possible unless you buy a ficha. The girls are very timid about it also. I think they tell them not to go to dude's habitaciones without informing the lobby.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2964281]
A few pointers for good "game":
1) Be attractive to the women. Even if you aren't the best looking guy you can still dress well and stay in shape. No one want's to be with an unkempt disgusting blob.
2) Project power and confidence. This is what the girls respect. They will respect you more if you stand up for yourself like a man. If you lack confidence or are too nice the sharks will start circling.
3) Learn to negotiate. Sometimes the best negotiation is no negotiation. The more you are asking, "what is the price for this and that", the more transactional it seems, and the girls will start to worry that you can't afford it which makes you seem lower status.
4) A little Spanish doesn't hurt. Again this is tough if you're not a regular, and it's not really a prerequisite (I enjoyed this place for a long time without knowing any Spanish) it does allow the girls to get to know you a little better and feel more at ease with you.
5) Learn to avoid sharks. Again, not easy but you can learn to recognize the signs. Sometimes it's better to avoid the girls that look like "trophy chics" and go for the ones that are a little less self assured and humble. There are actually some incredible looking chics that fall into the later category. If you absolutely need a trophy to add to your shelf, so to speak, you must be resigned to the fact that you may also have to deal with the trophy chic attitude.
The key, I think, is to project yourself as someone who is actually desirable to be with, not just someone looking to trade sex for money. This won't work for everyone, of course, because some guys are simply not desirable, for whatever reason. However, you can always improve yourself to some extent. Myself, Iv'e always been pretty popular with women in latin america, who seem to view me as something of a rare commodity. This kind of "exotic factor" doesn't carry over to the US, of course, which is why I greatly prefer latin america. HK and latin america in general is like the gift that keeps on giving.[/QUOTE]This is good advice.
Hi all,
Visiting my folks so will be in socal around December 19-28th. How is the scene around this time? I figure many of the girls go home, but I figured I'd ask since I'm rarely back home anymore. Wondering if it's worth heading down there for a couple days or if it's going to empty. Appreciate you guys!
Headed down Sunday night around 10 pm until around 1 am or so. I almost didn't go because it got too late for me but went anyways since I was visiting a friend who only lives 10 minutes away from the border. Ran into one of my regulars so we enjoyed a few drinks for a while. She was on the last hour of her shift and was moreso wanting to run out the clock which was fine with me because I was saving my pop for another one or my chicas at Chicago. After we parted ways I ran into another one or my favorite girls who hadn't been around in a while. She only came back for some extra holiday money and is leaving the week before Christmas. I'll be sure to get a session in with her before she leaves.
A few girls approached me, all quoting within the 100-120 range. Noticed a drop dead beautiful girl dancing on the bar. She had an amazing body too, although she had an obvious boob job, they looked pretty good on her. I figured a girl like her would quote me something astronomical. Curiosity got the best of me and I motioned for her to crouch down so I could talk to her. I asked point blank how much to go arriba. To my surprise she said 130. I suppose I could have gotten her down to 120 or maybe tell her 120 and a $10 tip if the session was to my satisfaction. I asked if she was into girls to perhaps get her in a threesome with another one of my sexually charged up chicas who could loosen her up for me in case she was somewhat uptight in bed. She said yes and that she wasn't opposed to working with other girls. I was hoping for more of an upbeat answer, the kind you get from bisexual girls. Seems like she does it more for work reasons than for personal pleasure unlike some other girls I know who are also into it for their own enjoyment. I would probably still do it regardless just because of how hot she was. I told her I would catch up with her some other time. I believe she said her name was Claudia or something similar with a C.
A little bit later on I took notice of another pretty girl, but she was super skinny, almost model like. Not much in terms of having tits or ass but she makes her body work for her and carries it well. She eventually got up to dance and I gave her a tip to feel her up. To her credit she didn't back away and gave me a nice smile but when I asked how much to go arriba just to see what she would say she quoted me $180. This is the highest I have ever been quoted in the zona. She must have read the look on my face when she said it and quickly counter offered herself with $160 somehow thinking I would take her up on it. I told her I was going to do a few more laps and maybe I would talk to her later. She must have a bad case of GPS. She told me she goes by Blair, so if any of you guys see her watch out for the hefty tax LOL. After that I finally headed to Chicago and saw my chica over there.
I had driven over so on my way to the border I spotted cop cars a few blocks away pulling every car over for searches and questioning. Those bastards got me one time this way and accused me of drunk driving. Had to give them a few bucks to let me go. This time I was able to hook a right a couple blocks before I got to them down a quiet street and entered an alternative route to Plaza Rio on google maps to escape their little entrapment. Once I was in the Plaza Rio area I knew how to make it safely straight to the border.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2964945]This is where you and I fundamentally differ. As a principle all women I select are the same in that I pay them the same amount of money. Anyone I select and willing to go for the reasonable price I want to pay will be selected, when I am ready. I never pay based on looks, at all. The second I reason to pay her more based on her hotness is when I lose in more way than one.
Basically this is what I do, I go to the club, I approach the ladies I like based on looks and body language, I evaluate the attitude through playful banter and then I offer my price. Most times I get them agree on a price, to meet later in the day and exchange numbers. I get so many hot women as such, sometimes I don't even know what to do with the phone numbers. Usually what is agreed that day would not work if a day passes, you got to work on it again.
Mind you I can pay the prices you pay, my issue is paying that much will change the women's attitude about me. Treat them average, they will give you excellent service.[/QUOTE]Well, there's more than one way to skin a cat. My approach works for me, it always has. Sure, what you say may happen if you pay them more but in my experience it's been the opposite. To each his own I guess.
[QUOTE=Kguy987;2965268]Hi all,
Visiting my folks so will be in socal around December 19-28th. How is the scene around this time? I figure many of the girls go home, but I figured I'd ask since I'm rarely back home anymore. Wondering if it's worth heading down there for a couple days or if it's going to empty. Appreciate you guys![/QUOTE]You are right, most of the usual suspects leave. However you may see fresh ones in limited numbers looking for holiday money. Generally, it is better than January but December is slow and cold. There is fun to be had though, much of it. Do not despair due to the comments, just go. I would avoid Christmas day and New years eve and day.
Note:- Muggings against locals increase this month. Not much against tourists though, yet it is worth to be extra careful.
[QUOTE=Dac007;2965443]Well, there's more than one way to skin a cat. My approach works for me, it always has. Sure, what you say may happen if you pay them more but in my experience it's been the opposite. To each his own I guess.[/QUOTE]Corret, each to his own. The only cause you should consider is the women expect everyone to pay them what you pay. Prices above $100 were unheard of in 2019. Now we are hearing $150, $160, $180, $200/30 minutes like it is nothing.
Took 5 years to go from $60 to $100. Now from 2019 to 2022 it went from $100 to close to $200. Part of it is the decline and death of Adelitas.
I leave this to other readers. The price is $100+$20 propina. Don't pay anymore than that for a 30 min session.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2965445]
Note:- Muggings against locals increase this month. Not much against tourists though, yet it is worth to be extra careful.[/QUOTE]I might add. You may not want to call them muggings. But robberies.
Of tourists increase quite a bit this time of year and the robbers are the Tijuana Municipal Police.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2965462]Corret, each to his own. The only cause you should consider is the women expect everyone to pay them what you pay. Prices above $100 were unheard of in 2019. Now we are hearing $150, $160, $180, $200/30 minutes like it is nothing.
Took 5 years to go from $60 to $100. Now from 2019 to 2022 it went from $100 to close to $200. Part of it is the decline and death of Adelitas.
I leave this to other readers. The price is $100+$20 propina. Don't pay anymore than that for a 30 min session.[/QUOTE]I've been hearing that for 20 years here in the states when less than $100 was common. One thing is true. Prices go up, they almost never go down, not sure why people complain, can you name one thing that costs less now than it did 5 years ago or that hasn't significantly increased at a higher rate than the previous 5 years? Look at the prices of homes in the US from today compared to 5 years ago, then compare that to the 5 years previous.
You have to understand that there are guys like me that have been priced out of most of the women in the states that are as hot as the ladies in Tijuana because they are now charging at least 500 for thirty minutes. SW's here are commonly asking for 200, so when I see a dime that looks better than the ones I've seen in the states that I paid at least 350 for, I'm not really thinking how what I pay her is going to affect prices for other dudes. Like I said, she was rare, checked every box I'm looking for twice. It's a sliding scale for me, if a woman only checks 3 out of 6 boxes for me, well the price I will pay drops significantly.
[QUOTE=Dac007;2965890]I've been hearing that for 20 years here in the states when less than $100 was common. One thing is true. Prices go up, they almost never go down, not sure why people complain, can you name one thing that costs less now than it did 5 years ago or that hasn't significantly increased at a higher rate than the previous 5 years? Look at the prices of homes in the US from today compared to 5 years ago, then compare that to the 5 years previous.
You have to understand that there are guys like me that have been priced out of most of the women in the states that are as hot as the ladies in Tijuana because they are now charging at least 500 for thirty minutes. SW's here are commonly asking for 200, so when I see a dime that looks better than the ones I've seen in the states that I paid at least 350 for, I'm not really thinking how what I pay her is going to affect prices for other dudes. Like I said, she was rare, checked every box I'm looking for twice. It's a sliding scale for me, if a woman only checks 3 out of 6 boxes for me, well the price I will pay drops significantly.[/QUOTE]Generally I agree but some things do get cheaper when production scales up and the technology gets cheaper. I never thought in the mid 90's when a laptop was $2000+ that you could get one 30 years later for 10% of that. My first flat screen TV was a 40" plasma in like 2000 that cost like $5000, now you can get a 50" at walmart for $300. We just need production of tapatias, chilangas and regias to scale up, open up another 3 or 4 HKTJ and we should be good to go.
[QUOTE=MikeyVee123;2966084]Generally I agree but some things do get cheaper when production scales up and the technology gets cheaper. I never thought in the mid 90's when a laptop was $2000+ that you could get one 30 years later for 10% of that. My first flat screen TV was a 40" plasma in like 2000 that cost like $5000, now you can get a 50" at walmart for $300. We just need production of tapatias, chilangas and regias to scale up, open up another 3 or 4 HKTJ and we should be good to go.[/QUOTE]Tech products go down except smart phones, thanks to useless Apple. Generally, in our hobby, female services go up. I do consider that. What I am negating is the outrageous speed at which prices are deliberately being pushed up. It is not natural, not in par with inflation either.
Some dudes pay it and say my action wouldn't affect others. They should know there are a bunch of an aware others who do the same, effectively ingraining these ridiculous price hikes. As I wrote took 5 years to rise by $40. Now in 3 years it rose by $100.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2966098]Tech products go down except smart phones, thanks to useless Apple. Generally, in our hobby, female services go up. I do consider that. What I am negating is the outrageous speed at which prices are deliberately being pushed up. It is not natural, not in par with inflation either.
Some dudes pay it and say my action wouldn't affect others. They should know there are a bunch of an aware others who do the same, effectively ingraining these ridiculous price hikes. As I wrote took 5 years to rise by $40. Now in 3 years it rose by $100.[/QUOTE]Supply and demand in other words the market sets the price. There's more horny dudes willing to pay higher amounts so quit complaining.
[QUOTE=Dac007;2965890] I'm not really thinking how what I pay her is going to affect prices for other dudes. [/QUOTE]It does affect others. Know that.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2966283]It does affect others. Know that.[/QUOTE]I was there Thursday evening. So many girls with so few customers. A girl I've know for a while was complaining that men are not taking the girls upstairs and asked what was going on in the US. She thought it was all related to black Friday sales and the holidays. That's a possibility but I think it part of an overall inflationary trend. I was around during the great recession, those prices for the girls were economic and supply and demand related. If US consumers are tapped out prices will fall. The oldest profession will continue that for sure but at lower rates. That's a certainty.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2966283]It does affect others. Know that.[/QUOTE]Guys have been over paying for years in Tijuana.
Just look at the proof, the guy you're complaining about paid only one girl $160. Trust me $160 is not over paying and not something you should be crying about. You have no idea if that's what she always charges and if she does good for her. It's her body that she is selling and she decides what price she is willing to sell it for.
You pay girls $120, so how did $160 affect you? Trust me the hot girls are coming to Tijuana in hopes of getting the $160 guy but usually get stuck with the $120 guy. So they either stay or leave. We all should be happy this guy paid $160 because the hot girls wouldn't show up if he didn't.
[QUOTE=Guardman;2966306]I was there Thursday evening. So many girls with so few customers. A girl I've know for a while was complaining that men are not taking the girls upstairs and asked what was going on in the US. She thought it was all related to black Friday sales and the holidays. That's a possibility but I think it part of an overall inflationary trend. I was around during the great recession, those prices for the girls were economic and supply and demand related. If US consumers are tapped out prices will fall. The oldest profession will continue that for sure but at lower rates. That's a certainty.[/QUOTE]I just watched a video of a girl being interviewed about her work in HK. She said, if she makes $700/ week is good for her and if she can go up to $1500/ week its great. I was thinking if she took 2 guys up per shift which is $200 for 1 hour work total, she can reach her great points, instead of collecting dust standing by a corner quoting everyone $150, until she gets that weekend fool that comes up willing to pay that price. I have talked countless wall flowers standing there asking $130, while the smart ones agree for $100 and make it look like it is a price only for you, the special one.
She also said, her last arrival at HK for work, the first week she only managed to get $80.2nd week she reached $1000,3rd week she made $800.
By the way, I also encountered a girl as she came down the stairs from their change room to start her shift, I was leaning by the rails upstairs, she turned and looked down the floor and made this iffy face. I asked her what was wrong, she said, chingo de chicas, no hombres. I told her the club has priced out so many men telling girls they can charge crazy prices. She told me she doesn't ask for much only $130/30. I laughed at her and went down.
It kind of made sense for girls to quote $120 when the dollar was at around 15,16 pesos. Now since it's pretty much at 20, $100 should be a little more acceptable for them. Problem is they have been used to quoting 120 for so long, a lot of them are not going to want to drop down to 100 again. Especially with so many suckers willing to pay upwards of $150.
One of my regulars called me earlier today b*tching about barely making any money yesterday. Said mongers were more interested in partying and drinking instead of taking girls arriba. I just let her vent out her frustrations while I did some work around the house. I told her since today was Saturday, surely she would accumulate more arribas. She sent me a video a couple hours ago of her hanging out with a couple in their room, so I know she already has one knocked down at least LOL.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2966417]It kind of made sense for girls to quote $120 when the dollar was at around 15,16 pesos. Now since it's pretty much at 20, $100 should be a little more acceptable for them. Problem is they have been used to quoting 120 for so long, a lot of them are not going to want to drop down to 100 again. Especially with so many suckers willing to pay upwards of $150.
One of my regulars called me earlier today b*tching about barely making any money yesterday. Said mongers were more interested in partying and drinking instead of taking girls arriba. I just let her vent out her frustrations while I did some work around the house. I told her since today was Saturday, surely she would accumulate more arribas. She sent me a video a couple hours ago of her hanging out with a couple in their room, so I know she already has one knocked down at least LOL.[/QUOTE]Yup, that's what my friend complained to me about as well. I've also been having women contact me to come to visit them who haven't messaged me in months or ever really.
Maybe its just a short trend but there were so many girls at the club this week and the vibe and energy was a bit down.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2966417]It kind of made sense for girls to quote $120 when the dollar was at around 15,16 pesos. Now since it's pretty much at 20, $100 should be a little more acceptable for them. Problem is they have been used to quoting 120 for so long, a lot of them are not going to want to drop down to 100 again. Especially with so many suckers willing to pay upwards of $150.[/QUOTE]Well I think that's one point that I didn't bring up to those complaining about prices. If guys consistently paid in pesos prices would be more stable. If girls got 2000 pesos for 100 but only 1600 for that 100 they will demand more dollars. The problem is that since most guys don't pay in pesos now that it's back to 20 the girls aren't suddenly going to say ok I'll now take $100 again.
So those of you trying to tell guys what they should pay you'd be better off paying in pesos and trying to convince others to do the same. You will still be wasting your time but at least it's a more logical complaint.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2966283]It does affect others. Know that.[/QUOTE]Sorry, not my problem.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2966417]It kind of made sense for girls to quote $120 when the dollar was at around 15,16 pesos. Now since it's pretty much at 20, $100 should be a little more acceptable for them. Problem is they have been used to quoting 120 for so long, a lot of them are not going to want to drop down to 100 again. Especially with so many suckers willing to pay upwards of $150.
.[/QUOTE]LOL, exactly. They were actually telling me the exchange rate was bad hence their quote of $150, now if you ask them why, they just shrug their shoulders. Point is they know dumb ass mongers that show up once in a blue moon will paying it.
I saw one girl once, told her $100 + propina depending on her service. She said, either buy her fichas or $150/30. I walked away. The entire 2 hours I was there with a buddy of mine, she stood by a corner playing with her phone. Later I took a knockout 19 year old, one of the top girls, for the same price I offered that other girl. We took a lot of pics she hanging all over me, would have posted some pics to show what she looks like but this is a public forum, I respect her privacy.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2966565]LOL, exactly. They were actually telling me the exchange rate was bad hence their quote of $150, now if you ask them why, they just shrug their shoulders. Point is they know dumb ass mongers that show up once in a blue moon will paying it.
I saw one girl once, told her $100 + propina depending on her service. She said, either buy her fichas or $150/30. I walked away. The entire 2 hours I was there with a buddy of mine, she stood by a corner playing with her phone. Later I took a knockout 19 year old, one of the top girls, for the same price I offered that other girl. We took a lot of pics she hanging all over me, would have posted some pics to show what she looks like but this is a public forum, I respect her privacy.[/QUOTE]I see a lot of messages complaining about the prices, I've also looked at prices in Colombia, Thailand and the Philipines, out of all the destinations Tijuana Mexico is still the cheapest.
Prices went up all over the world after the shutdown, inflation hit everyone and everything.
I think you guys should count your blessings for having the lowest prices, nearest location and descent quality at your fingertips, either that or start booking trips somewere else and see how that goes.
[QUOTE=MikeyVee123;2966084]Generally I agree but some things do get cheaper when production scales up and the technology gets cheaper. I never thought in the mid 90's when a laptop was $2000+ that you could get one 30 years later for 10% of that. My first flat screen TV was a 40" plasma in like 2000 that cost like $5000, now you can get a 50" at walmart for $300. We just need production of tapatias, chilangas and regias to scale up, open up another 3 or 4 HKTJ and we should be good to go.[/QUOTE]The other thing that people in this group are not considering is that the "production" as you say of new talent is way down, the main reason is Only Fans, all the girls who want to do this type of work are doing Only Fans first and see if they can make it, that diminishes the amount of available working girls, that's a world wide phenomenon.
When it comes to Mexico, the country's quality of life is getting better and better, for the past six years the minimum wage has been increased by 20% yearly, it will go up again by another 15% this coming January, this means that a lot of girls may decide to get another type of job now that they pay more.
Remember, sex work is the last type of work the girls wish to do, they do it just because the amount of money they can make, if something else comes a little bit closer they will do something else.
[QUOTE=Jim0129;2966571]
Remember, sex work is the last type of work the girls wish to do, they do it just because the amount of money they can make, if something else comes a little bit closer they will do something else.[/QUOTE]This is true at the beginning. Once they get used to the easy money, specially in places like the zona clubs where they can choose whom to go with and security is relatively good, they will never leave elsewhere unless it becomes difficult for them continue for one reason or another.
As I mention in previous posts the girls are expecting $2000/ week. This is money even lawyers with good clients don't make in Mexico and also puts them exactly center of middle class in the USA. With that money they are "well to do" in Mexico. The issue is consistently making that much.
[QUOTE=Jim0129;2966569]I see a lot of messages complaining about the prices, I've also looked at prices in Colombia, Thailand and the Philipines, out of all the destinations Tijuana Mexico is still the cheapest.
Prices went up all over the world after the shutdown, inflation hit everyone and everything.
.[/QUOTE]I am not buying that at all. I know of Thailand and Colombia. Anyone who knows these places will tell you, no way in hell Tijuana is cheaper than those once you get there.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2966588]I am not buying that at all. I know of Thailand and Colombia. Anyone who knows these places will tell you, no way in hell Tijuana is cheaper than those once you get there.[/QUOTE]I've just read a report in the Medellin forum from a reliable source, he just came from a trip las September and he was quoted $200 in parque lleras, the equivalent of $60 in the casas (which is the equivalent of street girls in Tijuana), he didn't do any street action.
Lutron and Fase Dos were around $150 for 45 minutes.
Youtubers in Thailand and Philipines are quoting $150 to $200 dll's.
[QUOTE=Jim0129;2966589]I've just read a report in the Medellin forum from a reliable source, he just came from a trip las September and he was quoted $200 in parque lleras, the equivalent of $60 in the casas (which is the equivalent of street girls in Tijuana), he didn't do any street action.
Lutron and Fase Dos were around $150 for 45 minutes.
Youtubers in Thailand and Philipines are quoting $150 to $200 dll's.[/QUOTE]I don't know who your reliable source is but that is not the typical rate in any of these countries. I'm thinking you're confusing the Colombian peso with the dollar. The going rate for many girls in Colombia is around 120-150 k cop which is about $40 usd. Whoever is paying $200 usd in Colombia is unfortunately being either stupid or ridiculously fooled. Likewise in Thailand. Was there very recently and no one is paying $150-200 usd for girls. I'm thinking you're confused or the posters you're referencing have no idea what they're doing. Tijuana is extremely convenient for quick trips across the border, however it's expensive compared to other cities across LATAM.
[QUOTE=Jim0129;2966589]I've just read a report in the Medellin forum from a reliable source, he just came from a trip las September and he was quoted $200 in parque lleras, the equivalent of $60 in the casas (which is the equivalent of street girls in Tijuana), he didn't do any street action.
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Lutron and Fase Dos were around $150 for 45 minutes.
Youtubers in Thailand and Philipines are quoting $150 to $200 dll's.[/QUOTE]Every sane monger avoids poblado in Medellin, its a tourist trap, so is the strip clubs. Casas are not equivalent to SG's in Tijuana, they are much, very much better than the SG scene. In fact it is one of the top venues in which you get the best girls. I have almost 200 girls whom I befriended in FB, they are all quoting me around $50-60/ HR. If we met. I have not seen them in person but from the videos and pics they are top notch. One girl actually sent me her pic when she was out and about and then a video while she was masturbating, that girl is a knockout. In both she was holding my phone number written in a piece of paper. I sent her $30 for the effort. On and off she is till sending me some provocative pics. I send no more money.
Medellin is not like Tijuana, it is not a zoned out place where sex work takes place, they have no such area I know about. You go all over town to find women and you do and Poblado is the one place you avoid. Also the Hotels, food, transportation much cheaper than Tijuana.
Same thing can be said about Bangkok and Pattaya, places I visited. The Hotels I stayed in, better than what you see in Ticuan were for $25-$35/ night. For $7 dollars they brought me a fish dish enough for 5 people. I was like whoa I did not order all this. I was there before the pandemic and I paid $60 short time (Usually runs into the hour) for go go girls, now it seems gone up to about $80.
I don't know anything about the Philippines. Being quoted $200 doesn't mean that is the only thing available. You have options. In Tijuana not much. You have to haggle with Mongers and Putas to keep the price low.
Just wondering if all rooms in Cascadas have a safe / lockbox? Or is it only the more expensive ones?
I see recommendations to go with the double vs the single room, are the double room on higher floors away from the club noise?
I also see rooms with stripper poles and Jacuzzi. Will the girls actually use it?
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2966283]It does affect others. Know that.[/QUOTE]The problem with this thinking is that ISG members make the market, so to speak, to such an extent to effect prices. I don't think ISG members make the market in Hong Kong club or any other p4 p establishment in the world. Majority of the men who visit Hong Kong (or any other such place in the world) are not ISG members, so the going rate is established by others and the girls not ISG members.
Even if an ISG member overpays and the girl expects higher price from other customers, the rest of the men who visit that place either accept or refuse to pay the girl that price. If they refuse to pay then prices don't go up otherwise, they will go up. In any case, the point I am making is that the non-ISG members have most influence on price increases than ISG members. Even if all ISG members stick together and decide not to overpay it is not going to work because that doesn't have any effect / control / influence over majority of the men who make the market pay. Until all males in the world who partake in mongering has a place to communicate and decide what one should pay to keep prices in check, it is useless to get upset / angry at a member who honestly is sharing their experience here including what they paid. On the other hand, the girls working in an establishment can easily collude / communicate quite easily and try to set prices, but it may not work if most men who visit the place refuse to pay.
We think ISG is some huge site, and the members make up the majority of the punters in the world. I highly doubt that is the case. It's more like a just a drop in the bucket.
Just for reference, I had visited Tijuana few times early 2000's and I remember paying 50-70 bucks.
If you're not negotiating at all and just taking the first rate that is given to you, then you are making a mistake.
Only exception for this is if you are quoted an already "low" rate from the beginning.
I say "low" in quotations because what is considered low in HK is questionable at this point.
A few years ago you used to be able to get girls for $80 usd. Now in 2024 and coming into 2025 it seems that the bare minimum is $100, with the absolute lowest being $90 if you're willing to go through a lot of girls declining your offer and you having to negotiate hard on top of that.
I don't think it's even possible to get $80 usd for a session in HK anymore. Idk, maybe some monger out there is able to stumble upon 1 HK girl that is willing to do it, the point is though that it's not likely at this point and $100 will give you more access.
Now, knowing this, you should be hesitant about paying any more than $100 for a session.
If a girl is quoting you $120, you should highly consider just walking away, regardless of how hot she is.
The root problem though is that if you can only go to HK once or twice in a year, you're better off visiting a few times in your life and never going back again.
Because if you can't regularly go to HK, you have no leverage when it comes to negotiating how much you pay for an arriba.
You basically arrive at the club your one Friday and Saturday night of the whole year in which you can come to HK, and whatever girls happen to be there those nights is basically all your opportunities for the year. And if the girls you are attracted to and want to go arriba with decide that they will charge $120 and will not budge under that amount under any circumstances, then you pretty much have two options.
Option 1) pay the inflated amount and most likely get a bad service, and on top of that most likely the girl will require you pay upfront (you should never pay upfront and make it clear that you won't before you take the girl up).
Option 2) walk away and end up leaving HK without having sex with any girls. After you've spent a bunch of time and money on travel to get there.
Basically the point is that if you can't regularly go to HK, you basically can't negotiate.
This includes being able to negotiate prices as well as being able to negotiate the fact that you won't pay upfront under any circumstances.
In both instances you have to walk away if the negotiation isn't going in your favor. But if you're not a regular you can't just come back to the club tomorrow or next weekend and try again. Essentially continuing to comb through girls until you get one that agrees to your terms.
If you live too far from HK, your best bet is to visit maybe 2-3 times in your life, pay the $120 per session, get your little sex sessions, have some fun with girls, bust some nuts, and then that's it. Never come back to HK again.
If you are able to go to HK regularly and it won't be a problem for you, then you should always negotiate everything. And if any terms of yours are not agreed upon, then do not bring them up to the room under any circumstances and try a different girl.
[QUOTE=Bscotti;2966829]Just wondering if all rooms in Cascadas have a safe / lockbox? Or is it only the more expensive ones?
I see recommendations to go with the double vs the single room, are the double room on higher floors away from the club noise?
I also see rooms with stripper poles and Jacuzzi. Will the girls actually use it?[/QUOTE]I haven't stayed in Cascadas for quite some time because I'm pretty much done with Hong Kong and prefer Tinder, but the reason to go with the double is one bed for fucking and the other for sleeping. Initially perplexed chicas chuckled when I gave them that response after they asked me why I have two beds.
[QUOTE=Jim0129;2966589]I've just read a report in the Medellin forum from a reliable source, he just came from a trip las September and he was quoted $200 in parque lleras, the equivalent of $60 in the casas (which is the equivalent of street girls in Tijuana), he didn't do any street action.
Lutron and Fase Dos were around $150 for 45 minutes.
Youtubers in Thailand and Philipines are quoting $150 to $200 dll's.[/QUOTE]I've been to Tijuana, Medellin, Thailand and The Philippines. Your reliable source is giving out some inflated rates that is not representative of the reality there, especially when they are quoting dollars in a foreign country. (Never Pay in Dollars!) It's not nearly that high unless they got suckered, fooled and taken advantage of which it sounds like what happened. In my experience (as of October 2024) it's only a fraction of what you are quoting it is.
[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2966891]If you live too far from HK, your best bet is to visit maybe 2-3 times in your life, pay the $120 per session, get your little sex sessions, have some fun with girls, bust some nuts, and then that's it. Never come back to HK again.[/QUOTE]No Sir! Bad Advice. You should ALWAYS negotiate regardless. The likely outcome will be $100 and not $120. If you want to take it a step further, negotiate in pesos, not dollars. The exchange rate is good right now and offer her 2 K pesos instead.
Interesting read, but I disagree with most of it.
I think you're trying too hard to make me look at the experience of going there the way that you do, and I don't. I'm one of those that go only a couple of times a year and frankly in well over a decade of doing this I have yet to have an unsatisfying visit overall. I can't be bothered to spend half or more of my time there negotiating and 90% of the time I have a great session by just agreeing to the girl's asking price. The other 10% is almost always a lack of chemistry that has nothing to do with the money I'm spending.
I think you have that part of it backwards. If you're a hardass about the price, chances are you're going to be less satisfied because the girl is less satisfied by what she's getting for the service she's offering. Not to mention the fact that this isn't bickering about the price of a pair of shoes in the mercado. These are real people and they deserve a bit of respect that I don't think you're giving them.
IMO if you're going to the ZN a couple of dozen times a year then you're spending too much time and money on prostitutes and that's a whole different issue. Getting your panties in a knot over ten or twenty bucks or whether the taxi costs eight bucks versus five seems pretty silly to me when you're spending literally thousands every year on your p4 p hobby. Give your head a shake.
Ultimately it comes down to this: I'll spend my money and time there the way I want to. Your opinions are noted but IDGAF if I'm pricing you out of the market. That means more for me. That's capitalism, comrade. Democracy, whiskey, sexy. Sorry not sorry if you miss out on the sexy part (lol).
[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2966891]If you're not negotiating at all and just taking the first rate that is given to you, then you are making a mistake.
Only exception for this is if you are quoted an already "low" rate from the beginning.
I say "low" in quotations because what is considered low in HK is questionable at this point.
A few years ago you used to be able to get girls for $80 usd. Now in 2024 and coming into 2025 it seems that the bare minimum is $100, with the absolute lowest being $90 if you're willing to go through a lot of girls declining your offer and you having to negotiate hard on top of that.
I don't think it's even possible to get $80 usd for a session in HK anymore. Idk, maybe some monger out there is able to stumble upon 1 HK girl that is willing to do it, the point is though that it's not likely at this point and $100 will give you more access.
Now, knowing this, you should be hesitant about paying any more than $100 for a session.
If a girl is quoting you $120, you should highly consider just walking away, regardless of how hot she is.
The root problem though is that if you can only go to HK once or twice in a year, you're better off visiting a few times in your life and never going back again.
Because if you can't regularly go to HK, you have no leverage when it comes to negotiating how much you pay for an arriba.
You basically arrive at the club your one Friday and Saturday night of the whole year in which you can come to HK, and whatever girls happen to be there those nights is basically all your opportunities for the year. And if the girls you are attracted to and want to go arriba with decide that they will charge $120 and will not budge under that amount under any circumstances, then you pretty much have two options.
Option 1) pay the inflated amount and most likely get a bad service, and on top of that most likely the girl will require you pay upfront (you should never pay upfront and make it clear that you won't before you take the girl up).
Option 2) walk away and end up leaving HK without having sex with any girls. After you've spent a bunch of time and money on travel to get there.
Basically the point is that if you can't regularly go to HK, you basically can't negotiate.
This includes being able to negotiate prices as well as being able to negotiate the fact that you won't pay upfront under any circumstances.
In both instances you have to walk away if the negotiation isn't going in your favor. But if you're not a regular you can't just come back to the club tomorrow or next weekend and try again. Essentially continuing to comb through girls until you get one that agrees to your terms.
If you live too far from HK, your best bet is to visit maybe 2-3 times in your life, pay the $120 per session, get your little sex sessions, have some fun with girls, bust some nuts, and then that's it. Never come back to HK again.
If you are able to go to HK regularly and it won't be a problem for you, then you should always negotiate everything. And if any terms of yours are not agreed upon, then do not bring them up to the room under any circumstances and try a different girl.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure that all of the rooms have a safe. The contact email is on the Cascadas website so you can always ask them and get the real answer. .
The stripper poles and jacuzzis are only in some of the rooms and the only way to know if the girl will use them is to ask them.
[QUOTE=Bscotti;2966829]Just wondering if all rooms in Cascadas have a safe / lockbox? Or is it only the more expensive ones?
I see recommendations to go with the double vs the single room, are the double room on higher floors away from the club noise?
I also see rooms with stripper poles and Jacuzzi. Will the girls actually use it?[/QUOTE]
I wrote a few days back about a good experience I had with a girl at HK. I paid that girl $160, which apparently made some people upset. What is more, I had been on a string of pretty good GFE level sessions, so I was feeling pretty confident about my upcoming visit to HK. Unfortunately, It didn't work out that way.
It was unusually busy yesterday, considering that Mondays are typically somewhat slower. It was so busy that, at one point, they opened up the stage on the upper level. I actually wish they would just leave that area open all the time because it's a little bit less crowded, and I like to chill out there for a bit. I don't understand the mentality that crowded is better so that we need to be hemmed into a smaller area on the weekdays. Does anyone actually care if it looks crowded? I just care about the selection.
Anyway, it was a bit of a sausage fest, which was kind of a bummer since I go either Monday or Tuesday to get the room discount and avoid the sausages. There was one girl I had my eye on. She was a new girl, or, at least, I hadn't seen her there before. Unfortunately, she was busy with a client almost the whole night. I hung out at HK for a bit. Did the rounds to tropical and Chicago. Not much to my liking at these places. Then returned to HK. Finally, this girl was free, so I made my approach.
We sat down and had drinks, did the obligatory small talk. She didn't speak any english. She seemed really tired. At one point I asked her when her shift began and she said 1 pm. It was around 4 am at the time, so apparently she had been there over 15 hours?! I guess she had perfect justification for being tired, but I was still kind of put off by the fact the she seemed disinterested and gave me the vibe of just wanting to go home. At one point I leaned in for a kiss, to try to see if maybe she was a bit shy, but she responded with a kind of dead fish kiss on the mouth. It wasn't going that great, but it was difficult to tell if she was not interested or just exhausted.
Finally, I asked here if she wanted to come to my room. She said yes, but that the cost was $150. I was slightly suprised by this because she was more of a young, girl next door type than one of the fake breasted vamps that would normally try to price gouge you. When she said that, it pretty much sealed it that we weren't going to go. I felt no need to negotiate because it was apparent that she had no enthusiasm and it would just be transactional. I told her something along the lines of "there isn't enough chemistry to justify a price of 150" and sent her on her way. After that, since there wasn't any other girls I was that interested in, I just left--the night was a loss.
It's strange because the is the first girl in over a year that quoted me any price. I usually try to avoid any discussion of price so that I can just pay what I want after the session is over. I am generous though so the girls don't complain that it's too little. I actually figure out a fair price more by reading this board than by asking the girls. A girl asking for the money upfront changes the whole dynamic for me.
That's the life of an HK monger. One day you are the king of the world, The next week, it's back in the dumpster. The only consistent thing is that I will be back next week.
Hello brothers,
Anyone have any Christmas break experience? Is it a complete waste of effort?
[QUOTE=Guardman;2967178]Hello brothers,
Anyone have any Christmas break experience? Is it a complete waste of effort?[/QUOTE]Most ladies go home for Christmas.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2967063]I wrote a few days back about a good experience I had with a girl at HK. I paid that girl $160, which apparently made some people upset. What is more, I had been on a string of pretty good GFE level sessions, so I was feeling pretty confident about my upcoming visit to HK. Unfortunately, It didn't work out that way.
It was unusually busy yesterday, considering that Mondays are typically somewhat slower. It was so busy that, at one point, they opened up the stage on the upper level. I actually wish they would just leave that area open all the time because it's a little bit less crowded, and I like to chill out there for a bit. I don't understand the mentality that crowded is better so that we need to be hemmed into a smaller area on the weekdays. Does anyone actually care if it looks crowded? I just care about the selection.
Anyway, it was a bit of a sausage fest, which was kind of a bummer since I go either Monday or Tuesday to get the room discount and avoid the sausages. There was one girl I had my eye on. She was a new girl, or, at least, I hadn't seen her there before. Unfortunately, she was busy with a client almost the whole night. I hung out at HK for a bit. Did the rounds to tropical and Chicago. Not much to my liking at these places. Then returned to HK. Finally, this girl was free, so I made my approach.
We sat down and had drinks, did the obligatory small talk. She didn't speak any english. She seemed really tired. At one point I asked her when her shift began and she said 1 pm. It was around 4 am at the time, so apparently she had been there over 15 hours?! I guess she had perfect justification for being tired, but I was still kind of put off by the fact the she seemed disinterested and gave me the vibe of just wanting to go home. At one point I leaned in for a kiss, to try to see if maybe she was a bit shy, but she responded with a kind of dead fish kiss on the mouth. It wasn't going that great, but it was difficult to tell if she was not interested or just exhausted.
Finally, I asked here if she wanted to come to my room. She said yes, but that the cost was $150. I was slightly suprised by this because she was more of a young, girl next door type than one of the fake breasted vamps that would normally try to price gouge you. When she said that, it pretty much sealed it that we weren't going to go. I felt no need to negotiate because it was apparent that she had no enthusiasm and it would just be transactional. I told her something along the lines of "there isn't enough chemistry to justify a price of 150" and sent her on her way. After that, since there wasn't any other girls I was that interested in, I just left--the night was a loss.
It's strange because the is the first girl in over a year that quoted me any price. I usually try to avoid any discussion of price so that I can just pay what I want after the session is over. I am generous though so the girls don't complain that it's too little. I actually figure out a fair price more by reading this board than by asking the girls. A girl asking for the money upfront changes the whole dynamic for me.
That's the life of an HK monger. One day you are the king of the world, The next week, it's back in the dumpster. The only consistent thing is that I will be back next week.[/QUOTE]Solid report, I agree that if you're not satisfied with the price then don't be compelled to take the deal, you can always walk away.
The issue becomes when you only go to HK 1 or 2 times per year and spend hundreds of dollars and a 3-5 hour flight to get there.
At that, paying that $150 may be tempting if she is the only girl that night that you want and she refuses to budge below $150.
That's why I said before that it's difficult to negotiate if you only go a few times a year. Compared to if you can go to HK every weekend, then you're in terrific shape.
You can afford to leave Friday and Saturday night empty handed with no skin off your back, and simply come back next weekend for another try.
If you're on a vacation though? Then you can't afford to do that.
[QUOTE=AgaveBoy;2967021]Interesting read, but I disagree with most of it.
I think you're trying too hard to make me look at the experience of going there the way that you do, and I don't. I'm one of those that go only a couple of times a year and frankly in well over a decade of doing this I have yet to have an unsatisfying visit overall. I can't be bothered to spend half or more of my time there negotiating and 90% of the time I have a great session by just agreeing to the girl's asking price. The other 10% is almost always a lack of chemistry that has nothing to do with the money I'm spending.
I think you have that part of it backwards. If you're a hardass about the price, chances are you're going to be less satisfied because the girl is less satisfied by what she's getting for the service she's offering. Not to mention the fact that this isn't bickering about the price of a pair of shoes in the mercado. These are real people and they deserve a bit of respect that I don't think you're giving them.
IMO if you're going to the ZN a couple of dozen times a year then you're spending too much time and money on prostitutes and that's a whole different issue. Getting your panties in a knot over ten or twenty bucks or whether the taxi costs eight bucks versus five seems pretty silly to me when you're spending literally thousands every year on your p4 p hobby. Give your head a shake.
Ultimately it comes down to this: I'll spend my money and time there the way I want to. Your opinions are noted but IDGAF if I'm pricing you out of the market. That means more for me. That's capitalism, comrade. Democracy, whiskey, sexy. Sorry not sorry if you miss out on the sexy part (lol).[/QUOTE]I prefer to negotiate but you can pass on that if you want.
Also, if you're only going a couple of times a year then I question for what purpose you are going for and how much money (flight tickets, transportation) and time are you investing to get there.
If it's not that much and you prefer to just go to HK a few times a year, then you can do that.
The point still stands though that it's obvious one should talk about what they want in the room and how much it's going to cost before they bring the girl to the room.
If you don't do that, you're definitely going to run into bad experiences more often than not. The environment of HK and the girls that work there doesn't allow you to just be care free and get guaranteed quality every time. In HK you need to select for girls that are likely to give you a good experience, and go with those.
Sure you can just take them up after some good conversation, but you will randomly get bad occurrences because you are skipping an obvious precaution which is to negotiate and make sure you're going to get what you want.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2967063]It's strange because the is the first girl in over a year that quoted me any price. I usually try to avoid any discussion of price so that I can just pay what I want after the session is over. I am generous though so the girls don't complain that it's too little. I actually figure out a fair price more by reading this board than by asking the girls. A girl asking for the money upfront changes the whole dynamic for me.
That's the life of an HK monger. One day you are the king of the world, The next week, it's back in the dumpster. The only consistent thing is that I will be back next week.[/QUOTE]If a price hasn't been discussed and the session goes well, I always give $120. Never been a problem. A lot of times the girls don't even count the money and stuff it in their purse. If a session is pretty standard, then I give $100. Never really been an issue either. Luckily I haven't really had any bad sessions with newer girls this year. I can only think of one or maybe two, which ended up being the wham bam thank you ma'am types. But yeah, if a girl never discusses a fee and you can tell she had a good time with you as well, all they want is a fair fee, which to me I have calculated as $100 as the base, and a $20 bonus if she offered any extras like DFK or BBBJ.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2967249]If a price hasn't been discussed and the session goes well, I always give $120. Never been a problem. A lot of times the girls don't even count the money and stuff it in their purse. If a session is pretty standard, then I give $100. Never really been an issue either. Luckily I haven't really had any bad sessions with newer girls this year. I can only think of one or maybe two, which ended up being the wham bam thank you ma'am types. But yeah, if a girl never discusses a fee and you can tell she had a good time with you as well, all they want is a fair fee, which to me I have calculated as $100 as the base, and a $20 bonus if she offered any extras like DFK or BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Not to brag but I've had chicas stay the night with me for free. How? They just want a place to crash and a 20 dollar bribe will prevent any knocking.
Been going to Tijuana for decades. This use to happen a lot more often. The bottom line is everyone sees US tourists as a chance to make money. That includes police. If they find anything illegal they will expect a fine to be paid on the spot. I have gotten out of this having tinted windows and driving wrong way on one way road. Tijuana beach police got a "fine" from me for having open container a few years ago but I did not have time to screw around having flight to catch.
Based on how easy it is to get cocaine in 2024 I am assuming police find drugs on people a lot more in 2024.
The price thing from girls has always been there. In 2019 a couple super hot girls in HK wanted $150 and left when I would not pay it. I am not against paying a girl more than 100 but I do expet better service. Will not pay more just because she looks better. Got a lot of trophy girls in the case already. I want more locas at this stage of my monger career.
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;2964462]
Had one bizarre experience which made me angry. Was a block or two from HK on my way to the pharmacy. A cop stopped me - for no reason at all - and frisked me, making me put my hands on the wall while he checked my pockets, supposedly looking for drugs or weapons. He took my wallet and opened it but did not take anything. As I left the pharmacy I saw him doing this to another man. WTF. Stupid 3rd world bullshit.
Overall, I didn't enjoy this trip quite as much as I usually do. Prices have definitely gone up, and I felt like the overall quality of girls has slightly decreased. There are fewer young spinners. The nonstop blaring music and elbowing through the hordes of mongers gets old very quickly. I also got a sore throat on the last day which definitely put a damper on the trip.[/QUOTE]
We were in HK most of Sunday night, sitting at the football booth in the middle of the club, watch sport, drink, ogle girls, not too many hot ones early in the afternoon. Couple wingmen showed up, Luke, Storm Trooper, MMAFAN, R2, Randy ect. So much fun to meet up with wingmen. We were having a good time drinking, waiting for the hottest second-shift girls to show by 6 PM.
Noob quickly bagged a tall, slim stripper, light-skinned covered with large tattoos from head to toes, unbelievable. I guess he's a patron of the arts hehe. Eventually noob took 3 HK girls up.
R2's Tijuana GF is pregnant but was drinking heavily in HK as of last week. Her tummy has gotten so large she no longer wants to go in HK to party, but was jealous that he may be screwing other girls. Of course he would be screwing other girls as her big tummy interferes with good penetration. A new slim, young girl straddled R2 lap, talking a long time without the normal fichas. She agreed to $100 for an hour BBFS. He quickly took her to the hotel. He came down after a very long session with this girl, exhausted. I had to bank him money to take the pregnant GF to dinner and give her some for food next week. R2 got quite a few good deals with HK girls, but sometimes he was still ripped off by sharks. Cannot win them all.
Tiffany was a tall, slim, light-skinned stripper with a pretty face looking more like English or German. A wingman was in love with her for years, taking her up every time. She came back stripping this week, but 4 years after CoVid19 shutdown, her face and body padded some age. She looked more like a tired MILF. I texted and alerted the young wingman but he never answered, may have died of illness or by ex wife's mischiefs hehe.
I offered beers to a few hot spinners, got tels of local Tijuana girls for future hook ups and potential vacaciones, eventually took 2 to the hotel, hot 18 and 20 YO Tijuana spinners with limited English. They all started with $150 and agreed to $120 for half hour with no kissing or DATY. For the same money, you can have an hour with hot, young escorts from Goodgirls with DFK, DATY and possible BBFS with a little propina, some will go to hotels in La Zona. Will do both escorts and HK girls next trip.
We checked Tropical and Chicago but found no hot girls; quickly returned to HK.
We ordered 2-4-1 steak dinners with Azuls' coupon, 1 rib eye, 1 arrachera with french fries, string beans, mushroom, white toast, tortillas ect, brought to our table. Steaks were perfect medium, cut up, tender, smoky and tasty. Azul's has improved its cuisine a great deal. It was a fun dinner while knocking down a few Tequila shots, ogling 100 hot, young girls fluttering, flirting all around us.
I also had 5 tires balanced, a fender painted for cheap, a quick hair cut, spicy and delish shrimp cocktails, tacos, beef soup, Azuls' steaks, fun time partying with hot young girls then their sexy companies in bed, damn good time, worth driving down, despite the policia shakedown annoyance. Really nice hanging wingmen again. Will likely repeat the good time next Sunday.
[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;2967310]Not to brag but I've had chicas stay the night with me for free. How? They just want a place to crash and a 20 dollar bribe will prevent any knocking.[/QUOTE]I've had girls stay with me gratis as well LOL. But that's another subject.
Hey guys, been reading a while trying to prepare for my first HK trip in January.
Been scouring forum but is there a post you can point me too with a list of useful spanish phrases to learn before I go?
A girl came to my room and stayed until her shift was over. The club hates this. We had a blast and she intiated getting my contact information. The next week we spent the night at a rental condo on the beach. She got $100 for going up to my room from the club and did not want any extra money for the club night or going to condo the following week.
I got to know her and understand what was going on. My only suggestion to people is treat the locas how they want to be treated and understand they have lives outside of being a club girl.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2967452]I've had girls stay with me gratis as well LOL. But that's another subject.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2966867]The problem with this thinking is that ISG members make the market, so to speak, to such an extent to effect prices. I don't think ISG members make the market in Hong Kong club or any other p4 p establishment in the world. Majority of the men who visit Hong Kong (or any other such place in the world) are not ISG members, so the going rate is established by others and the girls not ISG members.
Even if an ISG member overpays and the girl expects higher price from other customers, the rest of the men who visit that place either accept or refuse to pay the girl that price. If they refuse to pay then prices don't go up otherwise, they will go up. In any case, the point I am making is that the non-ISG members have most influence on price increases than ISG members. Even if all ISG members stick together and decide not to overpay it is not going to work because that doesn't have any effect / control / influence over majority of the men who make the market pay. Until all males in the world who partake in mongering has a place to communicate and decide what one should pay to keep prices in check, it is useless to get upset / angry at a member who honestly is sharing their experience here including what they paid. On the other hand, the girls working in an establishment can easily collude / communicate quite easily and try to set prices, but it may not work if most men who visit the place refuse to pay.
We think ISG is some huge site, and the members make up the majority of the punters in the world. I highly doubt that is the case. It's more like a just a drop in the bucket.
Just for reference, I had visited Tijuana few times early 2000's and I remember paying 50-70 bucks.[/QUOTE]We are just discussing, because it scratches that itch to talk about anything related to beautiful latinas that offer no string attached momentary love.
[QUOTE=Toobusyforlove;2967459]Hey guys, been reading a while trying to prepare for my first HK trip in January.
Been scouring forum but is there a post you can point me too with a list of useful spanish phrases to learn before I go?[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1808-Mexican-Spanish-Phrases[/URL]
[QUOTE=Toobusyforlove;2967459]Hey guys, been reading a while trying to prepare for my first HK trip in January.
Been scouring forum but is there a post you can point me too with a list of useful spanish phrases to learn before I go?[/QUOTE]There is some discussion here [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1808-Mexican-Spanish-Phrases[/URL].
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2966867]The problem with this thinking is that ISG members make the market, so to speak, to such an extent to effect prices. I don't think ISG members make the market in Hong Kong club or any other p4 p establishment in the world. Majority of the men who visit Hong Kong (or any other such place in the world) are not ISG members, so the going rate is established by others and the girls not ISG members.
We think ISG is some huge site, and the members make up the majority of the punters in the world. I highly doubt that is the case. It's more like a just a drop in the bucket.
.[/QUOTE]There are an estimated 4042 million commercial sex workers worldwide.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2966672]Every sane monger avoids poblado in Medellin, its a tourist trap, so is the strip clubs. Casas are not equivalent to SG's in Tijuana, they are much, very much better than the SG scene. In fact it is one of the top venues in which you get the best girls. I have almost 200 girls whom I befriended in FB, they are all quoting me around $50-60/ HR. If we met. I have not seen them in person but from the videos and pics they are top notch. One girl actually sent me her pic when she was out and about and then a video while she was masturbating, that girl is a knockout. In both she was holding my phone number written in a piece of paper. I sent her $30 for the effort. On and off she is till sending me some provocative pics. I send no more money.
Medellin is not like Tijuana, it is not a zoned out place where sex work takes place, they have no such area I know about. You go all over town to find women and you do and Poblado is the one place you avoid. Also the Hotels, food, transportation much cheaper than Tijuana.
Same thing can be said about Bangkok and Pattaya, places I visited. The Hotels I stayed in, better than what you see in Ticuan were for $25-$35/ night. For $7 dollars they brought me a fish dish enough for 5 people. .[/QUOTE]My motto has always been, START at the top and work your way down. I know it's not for everyone, especially on this board. I miss Colombia.
Brazil. Sao Paulo / Rio. Quality is 10 + . And the prices (who cares) are very affordable. It's a long flight but the girls are not midgets like the asians. LOL and there are a lot of them! Scandallo.
TIJUANA (HKTJ) - A lot of slam bam arriba girls. Some hot girls still want 30 minute "sessions" . Price is OK if you like quickies. I know you guys in Socal never get laid. So it's worth it for the release.
Colombia. Miami guys are the ones spoiled. Going to MEDELLIN for the weekend banging everything they can and shooting youtube videos. Wide range of girls / costs also vary. Yes La Isla has gone up 50%. Colombia tourism is through the roof, 5 star hotels are way better than Mexico / a lot cheaper.
Bogota is still very affordable with high quality but risky enough most guys are afraid to go. Finding someone worth spending time with in any of these destinations is the challenge.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2968347]My motto has always been, START at the top and work your way down. I know it's not for everyone, especially on this board. I miss Colombia.
Brazil. Sao Paulo / Rio. Quality is 10 + . And the prices (who cares) are very affordable. It's a long flight but the girls are not midgets like the asians. LOL and there are a lot of them! Scandallo.
TIJUANA (HKTJ) - A lot of slam bam arriba girls. Some hot girls still want 30 minute "sessions" . Price is OK if you like quickies. I know you guys in Socal never get laid. So it's worth it for the release.
Colombia. Miami guys are the ones spoiled. Going to MEDELLIN for the weekend banging everything they can and shooting youtube videos. Wide range of girls / costs also vary. Yes La Isla has gone up 50%. Colombia tourism is through the roof, 5 star hotels are way better than Mexico / a lot cheaper.
Bogota is still very affordable with high quality but risky enough most guys are afraid to go. Finding someone worth spending time with in any of these destinations is the challenge.[/QUOTE]None of the above matters if your Tinder game is strong. At that point it's just about personal preference. I've mongered and done civvies in Brazil. Are the women amazing? Yes but a Mexicana who you're not paying is tops for me. What isn't even a close call for me is the food. For my taste, give me the food in Mexico all day over Brazil.
Stopped by last night for about an hour and a half. Thought there wouldn't be as many girls as usual but it was pretty much the same as any other Sunday. Girls did not seem eager to do business though. For the most part they were all just standing around or playing on their phones. None of the girls in my rotation were on duty, unfortunately. Parked myself in a couple spots during the time I was there for about a half hour each time and only a couple girls came up to me. I actually liked one of them that did, but she gave off more of a friendly vibe instead of a sexual one, so I just gave her a tip and let her continue on her way.
Found another girl I have been somewhat interested in for a while now sitting in Chavelas, but she appeared lifeless and bored out of her mind. There was a chance I could have sat down and engaged her in some conversation to spruce her up but didn't feel like putting in the work since it was approaching midnight and would have rather head home and give it a try some other day when I wouldn't be looking at the clock.
[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;2968431]None of the above matters if your Tinder game is strong. At that point it's just about personal preference. I've mongered and done civvies in Brazil. Are the women amazing? Yes but a Mexicana who you're not paying is tops for me. What isn't even a close call for me is the food. For my taste, give me the food in Mexico all day over Brazil.[/QUOTE]Mexico and Peru have the best food in the world; Brazil has the best women in the world hands down.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2968682]Mexico and Peru have the best food in the world; Brazil has the best women in the world hands down.[/QUOTE]To each his own but there's something about hearing "mas duro papi" that doubles my load volume.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2968682]Mexico and Peru have the best food in the world; Brazil has the best women in the world hands down.[/QUOTE]Fair enough. I vouch for the food in Tijuana.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2966867]The problem with this thinking is that ISG members make the market, so to speak, to such an extent to effect prices. I don't think ISG members make the market in Hong Kong club or any other p4 p establishment in the world. Majority of the men who visit Hong Kong (or any other such place in the world) are not ISG members, so the going rate is established by others and the girls not ISG members.
Even if an ISG member overpays and the girl expects higher price from other customers, the rest of the men who visit that place either accept or refuse to pay the girl that price. If they refuse to pay then prices don't go up otherwise, they will go up. In any case, the point I am making is that the non-ISG members have most influence on price increases than ISG members. Even if all ISG members stick together and decide not to overpay it is not going to work because that doesn't have any effect / control / influence over majority of the men who make the market pay. Until all males in the world who partake in mongering has a place to communicate and decide what one should pay to keep prices in check, it is useless to get upset / angry at a member who honestly is sharing their experience here including what they paid. On the other hand, the girls working in an establishment can easily collude / communicate quite easily and try to set prices, but it may not work if most men who visit the place refuse to pay.[/QUOTE]Right, ISG is just a drop in the bucket when it comes to the amount of men who partake. A lot of men who do this are not single so they want no digital footprint, I know guys who are afraid to look at XXX sites, no way they are creating an account here. Of all the mongers I've met in my life, and that's a lot, maybe 2% have ever heard of this site or the US site. This is a solo, discrete hobby that most men would not like people in their life to know about. My friend who I came to Tijuana with last time had been there 7 times in the last 6 months, he's never heard of this site, I asked him if he did any research, he said no, he just got info from a regular Tijuana visitor.
One thing I don't think people realize, especially those from the states, is that since it's basically legal in Mexico, there will be lots more clients, all kinds of clients. Guys who would not think about it in the US, are fine with coming to Mexico. This produces customers with drastically different income levels as some men are not going to Tijuana solely because the prices are better, there's little risk involved in seeing women there and it's extremely convenient. I don't understand complaining about rates, it's like taking your car down there, paying 1 k to get a repair done that you got quoted 3800 for in the US and getting pissed off because you got the same repair done there 2 years ago for 725. Men that are used to paying 3 times as much for sub par service, attitudes, deposit requests, tardiness, flaking out and all of the other wonderful things we deal with in the states will probably not negotiate to serve the great good of fellow mongers. That's not how life works. They will just be extremely happy to pay 3 times less for 3 times better service.
[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;2968703]To each his own but there's something about hearing "mas duro papi" that doubles my load volume.[/QUOTE]Something about seeing a woman frantically playing with herself after I cum in her makes me acquire a new load.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2968920]Something about seeing a woman frantically playing with herself after I cum in her makes me acquire a new load.[/QUOTE]Good one as is the post-creampie a chica frantically taking your cock in her mouth to suck out every drop as to not waste any of the precious baby batter.
If I decided to stay at hotel in the area (Caesar's, Rio Rita, etc), go to HK and take a girl upstairs at HK what is the rate for the room? I had no issues with Riza when I stayed there but I'm not having sex 24/7 so I'd like a bit nicer place that I can chill in. The rates for the other hotels are much cheaper than Riza and Cascadas. I may even consider trying one of the online services.
[QUOTE=Dac007;2969769]If I decided to stay at hotel in the area (Caesar's, Rio Rita, etc), go to HK and take a girl upstairs at HK what is the rate for the room? I had no issues with Riza when I stayed there but I'm not having sex 24/7 so I'd like a bit nicer place that I can chill in. The rates for the other hotels are much cheaper than Riza and Cascadas. I may even consider trying one of the online services.[/QUOTE]The short time rentals of the rooms in Cas I believe now are around $30 if not more, let others clear that up. I never use those anymore since I lightened up since 8 years ago. They are just a bad deal and you get a knock by the clean up crew before it is time to leave. When they were a lot cheaper, like $12/ night with a VIP on Mondays and Tuesdays, I used to get 2 rooms, one a Master Suite and another Delux Single. I used the Single to get girls the Suite to sleep and chill. These days I just get a nice room and then cover the bed with a white sheet to tangle with the girls and remove it when they leave. All rooms have safes now a days.
Both the Hotels you listed suck. Cesaars the noise, RR the windowless rooms and high price. Use Ticuan and ask for rooms away from Las Pulgas on Rivo.
Hi There,
Can anyone who has been comment or heard about how good Hong Kong would be on New Years? I am considering going there but do not want to go if it will be dead or have a lot less gals? What are your thoughts on this?
Thanks.
SB.
[QUOTE=StudBucket;2970011]Hi There,
Can anyone who has been comment or heard about how good Hong Kong would be on New Years? I am considering going there but do not want to go if it will be dead or have a lot less gals? What are your thoughts on this?
Thanks.
SB.[/QUOTE]Unless you are new and excited, for regulars it would disappointing.
[QUOTE=StudBucket;2970011]Hi There,
Can anyone who has been comment or heard about how good Hong Kong would be on New Years? I am considering going there but do not want to go if it will be dead or have a lot less gals? What are your thoughts on this?
Thanks.
SB.[/QUOTE]Well it definitely won't be dead but it will have less women.
With NYE being a Tuesday I'the imagine the hotel will be full or close to it since it's so cheap. So that means lots of guys in the club and less women. Aka a sausage fest.
So it's not the best night but if your other choice is being home alone why not go and see what happens. I'm sure some on this board will be going so maybe you can try to meet up with others.
[QUOTE=StudBucket;2970011]Hi There,
Can anyone who has been comment or heard about how good Hong Kong would be on New Years? I am considering going there but do not want to go if it will be dead or have a lot less gals? What are your thoughts on this?
Thanks.
SB.[/QUOTE]It will be a swordfight, sausage fest, whatever you want to call it. There will be women but too many swinging dicks.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2970013]Unless you are new and excited, for regulars it would disappointing.[/QUOTE]No I am semi-regular, go about every other month. So, its uneventful and less girls? Yikes.
[QUOTE=StudBucket;2970011]Hi There,
Can anyone who has been comment or heard about how good Hong Kong would be on New Years? I am considering going there but do not want to go if it will be dead or have a lot less gals? What are your thoughts on this?
Thanks.
SB.[/QUOTE]Worst night of the year for going to Tijuana bars. The ladies disappear very early.
Azuls came up with a big menu with many interesting dishes for mongers. HK VIPs get 20% discount, also Cascada's coupon for free breakfasts, like steak and eggs.
The 450 grams Rib eyes are now 425 pesos or $21 with fewer garnish, used to be 250 pesos with lots of good garnishes. A shrimp cocktails is 290 pesos, 100 pesos on the street, better fresher, tastier.
[URL]https://menusqr.info/restaurante-azul-english-menu/[/URL]
[QUOTE=StudBucket;2970056]No I am semi-regular, go about every other month. So, its uneventful and less girls? Yikes.[/QUOTE]Might pick up at night. You could have fun just be open minded as the usual buzz won't be there, specially when it comes to the girls.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2970114]Might pick up at night. You could have fun just be open minded as the usual buzz won't be there, specially when it comes to the girls.[/QUOTE]Just the opposite on New Years, the ladies disappear for the night, and what is left is a bunch of rookie guys asking each other where the ladies are.
[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;2970028]It will be a swordfight, sausage fest, whatever you want to call it. There will be women but too many swinging dicks.[/QUOTE]Did I ever tell you about my trip to Zorro bar? It might even be a NYE option. Just remember to spit your beer out when they deliver the $18 lady drink. And say WTF, fichas at HK are only $11. They will respond ohhh sorry sir I will bring the half size beer for $9.
If for no other reason go to experience ave. Revolucions last clip joint. And if you are really adventurous stop at bar Reno on your way back to HK I bet they will be having one wild NYE party.
Went last Saturday. Probably the worst day to go unless you are just looking to drink and party in a strip club environment. I just went to go "scouting" for talent and also because my normal Monday / Tuesday routine is too close to Christmas. It was the normal sausage fest, but maybe actually slightly less crowded since they didn't seem to have the upper level above the main club open. Talent selection was just ok. It was just all the same girls who are there Monday / Tuesday anyway.
I didn't see anything special, or any new girls. Actually, there was this one semi-new skinny girl who I might like to give a try. Not on Saturday, though. I've held back thus far because she seems a bit serious. I was trying to stealthily observe her interacting with a client from a distance, but it was difficult because she kept looking over at me, like she was aware I was watching her. So that may be a positive sign. Unfortunately, last time I was there, she seemed to be hanging out with these two other girls who were both wearing glasses. Now this, for me, is generally a red flag. Girls who wear glasses are difficult / weird / lesbians in my book, and girls who hang out with them are guilty by association. That being said, I may have to bite the bullet with this particular girl because she is pretty cute.
Also went to Chicago and Tropical. Chicago had a couple decent ones. I don't know, though. I never seem to get motivated to go with a girl at Chicago. I think part of it is that I like having my own room nowadays. It's far superior to renting the short time room. So that if Iv'e already rented a room at Cascadas or Rizo, it seems a waste of money to pay an additional room charge at Chicago. I'm not even sure what longer term arrangements can be made at Chicago, if any. I haven't been with any girls from Chicago for several years.
There are also a couple girls in Tropical I've had my eye on, one of them I've been with already. Last time, she was super friendly and gave me an unrestricted GFE session. They were both busy, though, the majority of the night. The one girl, the one I've been with, is pretty popular, unfortunately, because she doesn't have much competition there. This is kind of a smart move on her part. She literally said as much, that she didn't want to work at HK because she thought there would be too much competition. For me, it's not so good. I usually try to avoid the super popular girls, as it puts you at a disadvantage. I absolutely hate having to wait my turn with every other Tom Dick and Harry. So, time will tell whether I repeat with her. You know, some women are just better at drawing men to them, and it's not always a function of looks. It's amazing to me that I can sometimes find these super young hotties that haven't been with a client all night!
I didn't really want to spring for the more expensive (or the rip0 ff short term) room, so I didn't go with anyone. But, I walked around, listened to some music, had some beers, better than sitting at home: reconnaissance mission accomplished.
I may be back next Monday. Really, I'm just waiting for the holidays to be over. Holidays, in general, usually just mean more dudes and not really better selection. And you get a lot of out-of-towners coming in wanting to throw their money around with their once a year adventure. What's good for the girls is generally not good for us regulars. By mid January, though, it's back to business as usual.
[QUOTE=StudBucket;2970011]Hi There,
Can anyone who has been comment or heard about how good Hong Kong would be on New Years? I am considering going there but do not want to go if it will be dead or have a lot less gals? What are your thoughts on this?
Thanks.
SB.[/QUOTE]A lot of the girls will try to get out of working that night because they want to go party in the normal places: revolution, Alebrijes, Rosarito, etc. Better to just hit up revolution, new years eve. You will probably see half the girls from the zone norte there.
[QUOTE=BaxterSlade;2970259]Did I ever tell you about my trip to Zorro bar? It might even be a NYE option. Just remember to spit your beer out when they deliver the $18 lady drink. And say WTF, fichas at HK are only $11. They will respond ohhh sorry sir I will bring the half size beer for $9.
If for no other reason go to experience ave. Revolucions last clip joint. And if you are really adventurous stop at bar Reno on your way back to HK I bet they will be having one wild NYE party.[/QUOTE]And if you're even wilder be sure to stop by Rio Verde as well.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2970281]I didn't see anything special, or any new girls. Actually, there was this one semi-new skinny girl who I might like to give a try. Not on Saturday, though. I've held back thus far because she seems a bit serious. I was trying to stealthily observe her interacting with a client from a distance, but it was difficult because she kept looking over at me, like she was aware I was watching her. So that may be a positive sign. Unfortunately, last time I was there, she seemed to be hanging out with these two other girls who were both wearing glasses. Now this, for me, is generally a red flag. Girls who wear glasses are difficult / weird / lesbians in my book, and girls who hang out with them are guilty by association. That being said, I may have to bite the bullet with this particular girl because she is pretty cute.[/QUOTE]
Found this paragraph interesting because I stopped by last night for a little bit and had a very similar experience with a newer skinny girl. I had zero intentions of actually banging her since I didn't have a room for the night and wasn't going to pay $40 for ST. After eyeing each other for a little while I finally approached her with a tip to feel her up and straight up ask how much for arriba, just out of curiosity to see what she would say. She was super nice but said $140. I asked if it was regular CFS or if she threw in any extras and she said only CFS. I told her I would catch her around some other time as I was disappointed with her answer. I figured that's what she would say anyway.
Also about your observation about the glasses. I would say it depends. If you're talking about sunglasses, then I would tend to agree. If you're talking about regular eyeglasses, I completely disagree. Some of the best chicas I have met wear eyeglasses. Not difficult or weird at all. Quite the opposite.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2970321]She was super nice but said $140. I asked if it was regular CFS or if she threw in any extras and she said only CFS. I told her I would catch her around some other time as I was disappointed with her answer. I figured that's what she would say anyway.[/QUOTE]We all have our different styles. I'm not a fan of the cold approach. I also feel like women will be reluctant to offer extras to a guy who hasn't invested any time in them. Like, you may be a decent guy and everything, but she doesn't want you running off to your Quasimodo friends and telling them that she does BBBJ for 10 bucks extra. Women need to be warmed up, and they need to feel comfortable with you, in my opinion. If she doesn't warm up to you, she doesn't like you and you should let her go. If she does warm up to you, she likes you and will do anything you want. I never explicitly ask for extras, because when the panties come off and the pussy gets wet, I know I'm going to get them more often then not.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2970361]We all have our different styles. I'm not a fan of the cold approach. I also feel like women will be reluctant to offer extras to a guy who hasn't invested any time in them. Like, you may be a decent guy and everything, but she doesn't want you running off to your Quasimodo friends and telling them that she does BBBJ for 10 bucks extra. Women need to be warmed up, and they need to feel comfortable with you, in my opinion. If she doesn't warm up to you, she doesn't like you and you should let her go. If she does warm up to you, she likes you and will do anything you want. I never explicitly ask for extras, because when the panties come off and the pussy gets wet, I know I'm going to get them more often then not.[/QUOTE]I totally agree 100% although I never tried your method.
Mine is the cold approach style. I don't look for a girl who particularly is into me, that is extremely difficult. What I look for is a girl in a good energy state in the moment. Over the years I became good at it. Its faster.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2970361]We all have our different styles. I'm not a fan of the cold approach. I also feel like women will be reluctant to offer extras to a guy who hasn't invested any time in them. Like, you may be a decent guy and everything, but she doesn't want you running off to your Quasimodo friends and telling them that she does BBBJ for 10 bucks extra. Women need to be warmed up, and they need to feel comfortable with you, in my opinion. If she doesn't warm up to you, she doesn't like you and you should let her go. If she does warm up to you, she likes you and will do anything you want. I never explicitly ask for extras, because when the panties come off and the pussy gets wet, I know I'm going to get them more often then not.[/QUOTE]
A freak is a freak no matter what. I have DFK'd girls within seconds of meeting them. I've had others give BBBJCIM in the lap dance room within minutes of meeting them. Typically I hardly ever use the cold approach. I only do it with girls I have no intention of banging, just for research purposes and to amuse myself. Sometimes you can hit the jackpot. Doesn't happen too often but earlier in the year I had a girl agree to BBFS with the cold approach. I totally expected her to reject me and to my surprise she accepted so I had no other choice but to bang her.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2970094]Azuls came up with a big menu with many interesting dishes for mongers. HK VIPs get 20% discount, also Cascada's coupon for free breakfasts, like steak and eggs.
The 450 grams Rib eyes are now 425 pesos or $21 with fewer garnish, used to be 250 pesos with lots of good garnishes. A shrimp cocktails is 290 pesos, 100 pesos on the street, better fresher, tastier.
[URL]https://menusqr.info/restaurante-azul-english-menu/[/URL][/QUOTE]Since December came around they have been serving up all you can eat buffet using your free HKVIP card on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
Just grab a coupon card from the reception and redeem at the customer service (they will staple the coupon on the receipt) then head on up to Azuls and enjoy all you can eat and drink (except alcohol).
Otherwise it's 20% HKVip discount.
[QUOTE=Izl80;2970505]Since December came around they have been serving up all you can eat buffet using your free HKVIP card on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
Just grab a coupon card from the reception and redeem at the customer service (they will staple the coupon on the receipt) then head on up to Azuls and enjoy all you can eat and drink (except alcohol).
Otherwise it's 20% HKVip discount.[/QUOTE]With cold approach you save a lot of money if that is ones inclination and money is of importance. Care has to be taken however as the club doesn't like it if you are seen talking to girls without buying fichas. The main Boss was onto me once and I noticed it. I was talking to multiple girls and a girl told me that heard him tell meseros to not let me talk to girls without fichas. Mesors see I was tipping the girls and say nothing. I just dislike paying for fichas specially them beers. Never worked out for me except spending tons of money.
Stopped by the day after Christmas. Only the bottom floor open but still a decent selection. Not many international model types but enough 6-7 types to keep it interesting. At 50, just cute and young is enough.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2970536]With cold approach you save a lot of money if that is ones inclination and money is of importance. Care has to be taken however as the club doesn't like it if you are seen talking to girls without buying fichas. The main Boss was onto me once and I noticed it. I was talking to multiple girls and a girl told me that heard him tell meseros to not let me talk to girls without fichas. Mesors see I was tipping the girls and say nothing. I just dislike paying for fichas specially them beers. Never worked out for me except spending tons of money.[/QUOTE]I do spend good money tipping the girls in the club though, about a $100/4 hrs apart from the cost of taking girls up.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2971768]I do spend good money tipping the girls in the club though, about a $100/4 hrs apart from the cost of taking girls up.[/QUOTE]I only tip during the 2 girl shaving cream shows when I am sitting right next to the stage with a white towel in front of me. It's the only time it's worth it IMO other than an occasional touch and feel or titty suck or finger bang will roaming the club.
Will be in San Diego for a short trip and wondered what HK is like on Sunday afternoon / Sunday evenings. I've scrubbed forums to try and get latest info but haven't had any luck. Any advice is appreciated.
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2971773]I only tip during the 2 girl shaving cream shows when I am sitting right next to the stage with a white towel in front of me. It's the only time it's worth it IMO other than an occasional touch and feel or titty suck or finger bang will roaming the club.[/QUOTE]Now, I'm not saying this to dig on guys that tip. If you tip, more power to you. But, I don't. I'm simply not interested in feeling titties or touching ass. I don't care if they give me a lap dance, I mean, I'm not against it, but I'm not paying for it. I'm not that interested in the shows either. I think I've basically felt every titty on earth at this point so it doesn't do much for me anymore. The same goes for the rest of the stuff they want a dollar for. If that kind of thing gets you off, in some sense, fine. But for me, I didn't come here for that.
It also brings me back to my younger days going to American strip clubs, where you would pay exorbitant amounts of money for the privilege of having a girl sit on your lap for a few minutes. You would invariably leave those places more frustrated than you came in, but a lot poorer. But you went back anyway because there were literally no other options. This eventually led me to believe that the American system is basically designed to give women an advantage over men, with the constant empowerment of women combined with the draconian code against sexuality.
The point is, these days, I won't pay for titilation, largely on principle. I feel like when women get to the point that they can make decent money just teasing guys, they will stop having sex, and I won't do anything to encourage or enable that, seeing what my own country has become. If a woman wants to make money with her sexuality, she should be putting out. A hate teases.
These days, I wouldn't be caught dead in an American strip club.
And, on a final note, I think that Only Fans must be the quintessential American invention to make men suck up to these teasing wh***s (Strange, is this word not allowed here?). Even the name of that site reeks of female entitlement.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2971852] And, on a final note, I think that Only Fans must be the quintessential American invention to make men suck up to these teasing wh***s (Strange, is this word not allowed here?). Even the name of that site reeks of female entitlement.[/QUOTE]Actuakkt Onlyfans was invented by a British guy named Tom Stokley for 10 Pound loan from his father in 2016. He stepped down from CEO of Onltfans in 2021. [URL]https://marketrealist.com/p/tim-stokely-net-worth/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Corey2601;2971801]Will be in San Diego for a short trip and wondered what HK is like on Sunday afternoon / Sunday evenings. I've scrubbed forums to try and get latest info but haven't had any luck. Any advice is appreciated.[/QUOTE]There will be plenty of ladies.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2971852]Now, I'm not saying this to dig on guys that tip. If you tip, more power to you. But, I don't. I'm simply not interested in feeling titties or touching ass. I don't care if they give me a lap dance, I mean, I'm not against it, but I'm not paying for it. I'm not that interested in the shows either. I think I've basically felt every titty on earth at this point so it doesn't do much for me anymore. The same goes for the rest of the stuff they want a dollar for. If that kind of thing gets you off, in some sense, fine. But for me, I didn't come here for that.
It also brings me back to my younger days going to American strip clubs, where you would pay exorbitant amounts of money for the privilege of having a girl sit on your lap for a few minutes. You would invariably leave those places more frustrated than you came in, but a lot poorer. But you went back anyway because there were literally no other options. This eventually led me to believe that the American system is basically designed to give women an advantage over men, with the constant empowerment of women combined with the draconian code against sexuality..[/QUOTE]Interesting take. And I'm not at all being critical. Your position is well thought out and clearly a deeply held value. And to an extent, I agree with you. So why do I tip? First, I personally think TIPPING at $100/4 hours is excessive. Again, not trying to be critical but I think that's a pretty penny Zenduka spends with minimal return. (But as you said, if Zenduka gets joy from it, then it is money well spent.) For me, tipping a buck for a feel up session isn't so much about the physical gratification. But for $1, I get a VERY quick read on the chemistry. I've been doing this long enough to make an assessment in about 30 seconds if she will interest me in what I'm looking for. Is it fool proof? No. But I'd say I'm about 80% accurate in those really quick feels.
At the same time, I personally play it very passive. I'm not a trophy hunter. Personally, my best sessions have come from the chicas who approach me. Obviously, this takes alot of weeding out and alot of patience. But I strongly think when the girl approaches you, she's made the decision that you are acceptable. That sounds silly. But compare that approach to the 60-second cold call approach, where she just might not be into you for whatever reason. It works for me. Avoiding that transactional feel is uber important to me. That only reinforces different strokes for different folks.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2971852]Now, I'm not saying this to dig on guys that tip. If you tip, more power to you. But, I don't. I'm simply not interested in feeling titties or touching ass. I don't care if they give me a lap dance, I mean, I'm not against it, but I'm not paying for it. I'm not that interested in the shows either. I think I've basically felt every titty on earth at this point so it doesn't do much for me anymore. The same goes for the rest of the stuff they want a dollar for. If that kind of thing gets you off, in some sense, fine. But for me, I didn't come here for that.
It also brings me back to my younger days going to American strip clubs, where you would pay exorbitant amounts of money for the privilege of having a girl sit on your lap for a few minutes. You would invariably leave those places more frustrated than you came in, but a lot poorer. But you went back anyway because there were literally no other options. This eventually led me to believe that the American system is basically designed to give women an advantage over men, with the constant empowerment of women combined with the draconian code against sexuality.
The point is, these days, I won't pay for titilation, largely on principle. I feel like when women get to the point that they can make decent money just teasing guys, they will stop having sex, and I won't do anything to encourage or enable that, seeing what my own country has become. If a woman wants to make money with her sexuality, she should be putting out. A hate teases.slim black girls bay area
These days, I wouldn't be caught dead in an American strip club.
And, on a final note, I think that Only Fans must be the quintessential American invention to make men suck up to these teasing wh***s (Strange, is this word not allowed here?). Even the name of that site reeks of female entitlement.[/QUOTE]Tortured.
It also brings me back to my younger days going to American strip clubs, where you would pay exorbitant amounts of money for the privilege of having a girl sit on your lap for a few minutes. You would invariably leave those places more frustrated than you came in, but a lot poorer. But you went back anyway because there were literally no other options. This eventually led me to believe that the American system is basically designed to give women an advantage over men, with the constant empowerment of women combined with the draconian code against sexuality.
Answer-The US system and that we have in the Zona are not comparable at all. Yes in the US you will pay a pile of money to be tormented. In Tijuana you have ways to release the pressure and the tipping is way less.
The point is, these days, I won't pay for titilation, largely on principle. I feel like when women get to the point that they can make decent money just teasing guys, they will stop having sex, and I won't do anything to encourage or enable that, seeing what my own country has become. If a woman wants to make money with her sexuality, she should be putting out. A hate teases. Slim black girls bay area.
Answer- I tip because.
1. I love to watch the female body and the feminine persona flawing with the music. That is just me. I love watching girls dance with or without nudity. Only dancing though, not this other BS goring their tunnels with objects. I sit and make eye contact with the dancers, I encourage them to keep doing what they do, and then I tip them. I am no musician but I love to dance, I love to feel music, it lifts my spirit, reignites my passion about life. Except some women who are in a bad mood, most other women get this. I connect with a dancing girl spiritually this way. Makes me happy. I guess this is the one major point why Tijuana makes me happy. The music and the dancing takes me to an emotional special place.
2. This is the most important point. I do cold approach to find women that fit my desire. You can't just walk up, talk to them and leave. The club has rules, If you stay with a girl you either have to buy her a ficha or tip her $1 ever minute. That is what they expect. Takes me a minute to decide if I don't want the girl. Takes me average 5 minutes to decide to take a girl upstairs with amazing vibes. Tijuana clubs provide this venue for me and I take good advantage of it.
[QUOTE=Corey2601;2971801]Will be in San Diego for a short trip and wondered what HK is like on Sunday afternoon / Sunday evenings. I've scrubbed forums to try and get latest info but haven't had any luck. Any advice is appreciated.[/QUOTE]Just go down and try it out and report back your findings please!
[QUOTE=Corey2601;2971801]Will be in San Diego for a short trip and wondered what HK is like on Sunday afternoon / Sunday evenings. I've scrubbed forums to try and get latest info but haven't had any luck. Any advice is appreciated.[/QUOTE]I was just there last night, which was a Sunday night and it was just okay; in fact I would say mediocre compared to Friday and Saturday nights which are always really good. There were less girls, the large back room was closed, and the quality was just not the same as those other nights. But as others have said, there are still enough gals that you will eventually find one. If your standards are really high and you are picky, you may be disappointed. Good luck.
[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2971974]Interesting take. And I'm not at all being critical. Your position is well thought out and clearly a deeply held value. And to an extent, I agree with you. So why do I tip? First, I personally think TIPPING at $100/4 hours is excessive. Again, not trying to be critical but I think that's a pretty penny Zenduka spends with minimal return. (But as you said, if Zenduka gets joy from it, then it is money well spent.) For me, tipping a buck for a feel up session isn't so much about the physical gratification. But for $1, I get a VERY quick read on the chemistry. I've been doing this long enough to make an assessment in about 30 seconds if she will interest me in what I'm looking for. Is it fool proof? No. But I'd say I'm about 80% accurate in those really quick feels.
At the same time, I personally play it very passive. I'm not a trophy hunter. Personally, my best sessions have come from the chicas who approach me. Obviously, this takes alot of weeding out and alot of patience. But I strongly think when the girl approaches you, she's made the decision that you are acceptable. That sounds silly. But compare that approach to the 60-second cold call approach, where she just might not be into you for whatever reason. It works for me. Avoiding that transactional feel is uber important to me. That only reinforces different strokes for different folks.[/QUOTE]Good points. Tipping the girls in the zona is money well spent vs the US. We can't really compare the two, a mistake the person you responded to made. Going to US strip clubs is generally a stupid thing to do in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Corey2601;2971801]Will be in San Diego for a short trip and wondered what HK is like on Sunday afternoon / Sunday evenings. I've scrubbed forums to try and get latest info but haven't had any luck. Any advice is appreciated.[/QUOTE]I was in Hong Kong a couple of Sundays ago on the 23rd of December. I found it to be extremely enjoyable as the crowd was less than half of what it usually is and I could easily walk around and check out the scene. The talent was quite a bit less than usual but there were still some very pretty women there. I chatted up a few and had a great time. I would rather go to HK on a Sunday or a Monday due to crown size. On another note, I left the next day and took the trolley to get back to the airport. There was hardly anybody on the trolly. About halfway into my trolly ride, a homeless man walked onboard smoking a joint. He apparently had not showered for awhile and stunk up the entire trolley. He sat across from me and I had to exit on Iris street because I couldn't take the smell. And then get on the next trolley. Felt sorry for the guy.
Got a room at Cascadas last night, was there from about 8pm to 1am. Checked out the scene for a couple of hours. Wasn't too busy at first but at around 10pm things had picked up. The second floor was fully open. The B-C squad was on duty, not really any A-tier chicas around. Headed over to Chicago, it was pretty much the same as usual. There was only one girl I was interested in, but she was drinking with some guy. Hung out for a little while to see if anything else interesting popped up but no luck. Back to HK. There's a girl I have seen around for months now, I think she's one of the prettiest girls actively working there. Really thin frame, beautiful face, nice little curvy ass, fake boobs but they look good on her. I never really see her at a table with anybody, she's usually chatting with a girl friend or hanging around the main stage staring at her phone. I have never approached her because she gives major GPS vibes. I saw her get up to dance on one of the little side stages, which I dont recall seen her doing before. After watching her dance for a while, I figured here's a good chance to feel her up with a tip. I asked flat out how much for arriba. She answered in English, quoting $150. LOL, I knew it. I could have attempted to negotiate, but I had no intentions of actually banging her, so I just patted her on the butt and said ok maybe later. For as pretty as this girl is, no wonder I never see her going arriba. If she took 100-120, you would see her going up and down all night. Oh well, it's pretty much what I expected.
At this point I knew I wasn't going to find a girl around that I liked enough to take back to my room. I started digging through my contacts to see who was available. I reached out to this one girl my buddy recommended. I think she used to be a SG, but only takes private appointments from people she knows now. I would give her a 6.5 in the looks department, but her sexual appetite is a 10. I sent her a message and she said she was eating dinner with her kids but to give her an hour or so and she would come to Cascadas. We agreed to 1500 pesos for 1 hour, todo sin ropa. Sure enough she showed up pretty much on time and even stayed a little extra because I was taking a while for my second pop. I ended up going 15 past the hour but she didn't make a big deal out of it. I tipped her an extra 200 pesos although she tried to refuse it, I wanted her to have it for not being a clock watcher. Took a shower after she left and made another round before I left. Went to Chicago to see if that girl I saw earlier was available but she was nowhere to be found. I figured she probably went home. After about a half hour I circled back to HK. Chavelas was mostly empty but the main area was kind of packed. It was pretty much the same chicas around and I was wide awake so I figured I might as well head home to the comfort of my own bed and save whatever money I had left for next time. Have a Happy New Year, fellas!
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2972269]Back to HK. There's a girl I have seen around for months now, I think she's one of the prettiest girls actively working there. Really thin frame, beautiful face, nice little curvy ass, fake boobs but they look good on her. I never really see her at a table with anybody, she's usually chatting with a girl friend or hanging around the main stage staring at her phone. I have never approached her because she gives major GPS vibes. I saw her get up to dance on one of the little side stages, which I dont recall seen her doing before. After watching her dance for a while, I figured here's a good chance to feel her up with a tip. I asked flat out how much for arriba. She answered in English, quoting $150. LOL, I knew it. I could have attempted to negotiate, but I had no intentions of actually banging her, so I just patted her on the butt and said ok maybe later. For as pretty as this girl is, no wonder I never see her going arriba. If she took 100-120, you would see her going up and down all night. Oh well, it's pretty much what I expected.[/QUOTE]It is a bit worrying how stuck on 150 some of the girls are. That just seems too high. As we speak the dollar is at 20.65 pesos, so the strength of the dollar doesn't jive with this. I could maybe understand the logic when the dollar was at 16-17 pesos, though it was too high even then.
Why are some of these girls so intent on finding a sucker that they will pass up money making opportunities with normal guys? To the extent that some of them don't even get a client all night. It doesn't seem to make sense from an economic standpoint.
Here's my theory. After working at the clubs for a while, these women tend to build up a clientele of regulars (who probably see them off hours in many cases). Thus, they don't really need to make that much money actually working in the club. The club is more of an advertising platform for them to lure in more potential suckers. I often see some of the older, lumpier chicks, who rarely get much attention, texting the night away on their phones, probably talking to some sorry dudes who still want to bang them.
Of course everything in Mexico is negotiable. Some of the girls probably quote a high figure fully expecting you to make a counter offer. Unfortunately, for me, personally, this won't work because, although I'm fine with haggling over the price of a t-shirt, I absolutely hate haggling over the price of sex. As soon as they come at me with that price, I'm going to say no thanks and move on.
For me the game has always been to find the newer, fresher girls who don't have as big of a clientele. These girls are hungrier and more willing to please. This, of course, isn't easy. I go there almost every week and it's still hard sometimes to find a fresh one. Sometimes the ones you think are fresh have actually been working there on and off for a while, where you just haven't crossed paths yet. I think this is what happened to me in my story from a few weeks ago. If you are not a regular, this technique will not possible, unfortunately. If you find a girl with fake anything, butt, breasts, lips, etc. , you can almost guarantee she isn't fresh. She must have sucked a lot of dick to get those implants.
I actually have no problem with paying 150 if the girl earned it. My view is that if the girl is a keeper, she deserves more. But 150 without any prior knowledge of their service is not doable, in my opinion.
On a final note, that area near the main stage where some of the girls hang out. I call that the GPA: Golden pussy area. That's a no-go zone for me, as I see all the girls who hang out there as attention seeking sharks.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2972279]Here's my theory. After working at the clubs for a while, these women tend to build up a clientele of regulars (who probably see them off hours in many cases). Thus, they don't really need to make that much money actually working in the club. The club is more of an advertising platform for them to lure in more potential suckers. I often see some of the older, lumpier chicks, who rarely get much attention, texting the night away on their phones, probably talking to some sorry dudes who still want to bang them.
s.[/QUOTE]That's really interesting. I could totally see that being the case. It's like real estate agents. Apparently nobody buys a house from visiting an open house. If they are serious buyers that is. But realtors use the open house to prospect for new clients. Funny HK girls could be the same.
Hi All,
Saw some significant increase in the rates of hotel cascadas price. Has anyone stayed in Rizo. How easy is to take chica from HK to Rizo? Any reviews will be appreciated?
[QUOTE=Dilwala;2972752]Hi All,
Saw some significant increase in the rates of hotel cascadas price. Has anyone stayed in Rizo. How easy is to take chica from HK to Rizo? Any reviews will be appreciated?[/QUOTE]Rizo is good. You can take chicas. You just have to cross the street. Some new girls in HK don't know about it so you have to tell them it is part of the HK complex and have a security guy or the gown man reassure them.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2972279]On a final note, that area near the main stage where some of the girls hang out. I call that the GPA: Golden pussy area. That's a no-go zone for me, as I see all the girls who hang out there as attention seeking sharks.[/QUOTE]
Not a bad assessment. I don't think I have ever picked up any of my favoritas from there in all of my years of going to HK.
As far as why some don't budge from $150, it could be a variety of reasons. Some see the girls who take $100 less than. Others might not want to fuck 10 guys a day, so they know the $150 price point will keep the average monger away.
Also those of us here who tend to hold the line and remember the good old days of paying a bar girl $60, represent a very low percentage of their overall modern day clientele. A typical White or Asian guy who doesn't frequent the zona on a regular basis will consider $150 a steal. They're used to paying $300 CFS for a half hour here in the states. The chicas are well aware of this.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2973047] A typical White or Asian guy who doesn't frequent the zona on a regular basis will consider $150 a steal.[/QUOTE]What about the Blacks and Latinos? What do they consider?
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2973220]What about the Blacks and Latinos? What do they consider?[/QUOTE]Depends on their income level.
And aren't real estate agents some of the biggest working girls? Both in a business sense and with generally above average looks which pretty slutty and promiscuous. LOL.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2971852]Now, I'm not saying this to dig on guys that tip. If you tip, more power to you. But, I don't. I'm simply not interested in feeling titties or touching ass. I don't care if they give me a lap dance, I mean, I'm not against it, but I'm not paying for it. I'm not that interested in the shows either. I think I've basically felt every titty on earth at this point so it doesn't do much for me anymore. The same goes for the rest of the stuff they want a dollar for. If that kind of thing gets you off, in some sense, fine. But for me, I didn't come here for that.
It also brings me back to my younger days going to American strip clubs, where you would pay exorbitant amounts of money for the privilege of having a girl sit on your lap for a few minutes. You would invariably leave those places more frustrated than you came in, but a lot poorer. But you went back anyway because there were literally no other options. This eventually led me to believe that the American system is basically designed to give women an advantage over men, with the constant empowerment of women combined with the draconian code against sexuality.
The point is, these days, I won't pay for titilation, largely on principle. I feel like when women get to the point that they can make decent money just teasing guys, they will stop having sex, and I won't do anything to encourage or enable that, seeing what my own country has become. If a woman wants to make money with her sexuality, she should be putting out. A hate teases.
.[/QUOTE]The reason why I tip the girls.
I absolutely love watching the female body and the feminine persona flow effortlessly with music. That's just who I am. There's something mesmerizing about seeing women dance, whether it's with or without nudity. But for me, it's all about the dancingjust the art of movement. I'm not into the other stuff, like the over-the-top performances that involve objects or gimmicks. That's not my thing.
When I watch dancers, I like to sit back, make eye contact, and really connect with them. I encourage them to keep doing what they're doing because I appreciate their craft. And, of course, I show my appreciation by tipping them.
I'm not a musician myself, but I love to dance. Music moves meit lifts my spirits and reignites my passion for life. Most women seem to get this, except for those who might be in a bad mood or not in the right headspace. There's a spiritual connection I feel with a woman when she's dancing. It's like we're sharing a moment, and that makes me genuinely happy.
I think that's one of the biggest reasons why Tijuana brings me so much joy. The music, the dancingit all takes me to this special emotional place. It's like an escape, a moment where everything else fades away, and it's just me, the rhythm, and the beauty of movement.
😊.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2973298]The reason why I tip the girls.
I absolutely love watching the female body and the feminine persona flow effortlessly with music. That's just who I am. There's something mesmerizing about seeing women dance, whether it's with or without nudity. But for me, it's all about the dancingjust the art of movement. I'm not into the other stuff, like the over-the-top performances that involve objects or gimmicks. That's not my thing.
When I watch dancers, I like to sit back, make eye contact, and really connect with them. I encourage them to keep doing what they're doing because I appreciate their craft. And, of course, I show my appreciation by tipping them.
I'm not a musician myself, but I love to dance. Music moves meit lifts my spirits and reignites my passion for life. Most women seem to get this, except for those who might be in a bad mood or not in the right headspace. There's a spiritual connection I feel with a woman when she's dancing. It's like we're sharing a moment, and that makes me genuinely happy.
I think that's one of the biggest reasons why Tijuana brings me so much joy. The music, the dancingit all takes me to this special emotional place. It's like an escape, a moment where everything else fades away, and it's just me, the rhythm, and the beauty of movement.
😊.[/QUOTE]In India johns pay working girls to dance for them in the room. Your post makes me understand that a little more.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2973260]Depends on their income level.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it's not about race, not sure why the OP said typical white or Asian guys. I'm a black guy, coming back down there in a few weeks, 150 won't get you a SW in most cities in the states so I have no problem paying that in Tijuana, especially when I consider the lack of drama and level of service in Tijuana vs the states. I don't believe in a hard limit, especially there. The last time I was there I saw one, paid her 180, before selecting her there were about 8 that quoted me between 100 and 140, the one I selected, however was the hottest one in the club IMO. When I come down there I first look for the hottest one I can find and see her, she's usually more expensive than most, after I see her I don't plan on playing that much anymore but you never know, I could run into one hotter than the first one I saw. I still don't understand why pricing is such a big deal here, it's like complaining about buying a car in Tijuana that's less than half the price of the same car in the states even though the car in Tijuana has a lot more options.
Went to HK. Terrible selection this weekend. Atrocious if you ask me. Compared to the Hk I remember from maybe 4 years ago, the talent has dropped significantly. Dropped by Chicago and there literally was nobody workign there. About 30 guys and maybe 5 ugly girls.
[QUOTE=ABAJoeSmith123;2973400]Went to HK. Terrible selection this weekend. Atrocious if you ask me. Compared to the Hk I remember from maybe 4 years ago, the talent has dropped significantly. Dropped by Chicago and there literally was nobody workign there. About 30 guys and maybe 5 ugly girls.[/QUOTE]Almost all the girls I am talking to via what's up now are home, away from town. Almost all tell me they will return in Febrero. Enero is always slow, cold and miserable. Things will pick up in Marzo.
[QUOTE=Dac007;2973381]Yeah, it's not about race, not sure why the OP said typical white or Asian guys. I'm a black guy, coming back down there in a few weeks, 150 won't get you a SW in most cities in the states so I have no problem paying that in Tijuana, [/QUOTE]It is a Bad Idea.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2973485]Almost all the girls I am talking to via what's up now are home, away from town. Almost all tell me they will return in Febrero. Enero is always slow, cold and miserable. Things will pick up in Marzo.[/QUOTE]Is that for sure? I was about to book my first trip there this weekend.
[QUOTE=FlawlessZeal;2973619]Is that for sure? I was about to book my first trip there this weekend.[/QUOTE]
Mid December until damn near late January is the worst time of the year to visit. Mostly all the top tier girls are out of town on vacation. That being said, I'm sure you will still find someone to your liking, it's just that there aren't as many options. If you go and see someone you like, approach her right away and try to seal the deal before someone else grabs her and keeps her busy the rest of your time there.
Based on this analysis will Jan 25 will also be draught situation? Any other clubs should I try?
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2973624]Mid December until damn near late January is the worst time of the year to visit. Mostly all the top tier girls are out of town on vacation. That being said, I'm sure you will still find someone to your liking, it's just that there aren't as many options. If you go and see someone you like, approach her right away and try to seal the deal before someone else grabs her and keeps her busy the rest of your time there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FlawlessZeal;2973619]Is that for sure? I was about to book my first trip there this weekend.[/QUOTE]During Low Season, there still will be more ladies than you can handle, and they will be hungry for customers.
Dress warmly.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2973298]The reason why I tip the girls.
I absolutely love watching the female body and the feminine persona flow effortlessly with music. That's just who I am. There's something mesmerizing about seeing women dance, whether it's with or without nudity. But for me, it's all about the dancingjust the art of movement. I'm not into the other stuff, like the over-the-top performances that involve objects or gimmicks. That's not my thing.
When I watch dancers, I like to sit back, make eye contact, and really connect with them. I encourage them to keep doing what they're doing because I appreciate their craft. And, of course, I show my appreciation by tipping them.
I'm not a musician myself, but I love to dance. Music moves meit lifts my spirits and reignites my passion for life. Most women seem to get this, except for those who might be in a bad mood or not in the right headspace. There's a spiritual connection I feel with a woman when she's dancing. It's like we're sharing a moment, and that makes me genuinely happy.
I think that's one of the biggest reasons why Tijuana brings me so much joy. The music, the dancingit all takes me to this special emotional place. It's like an escape, a moment where everything else fades away, and it's just me, the rhythm, and the beauty of movement.
😊.[/QUOTE]Very well written.
It is the dancing gals of HK that make it the best club in the world for me.
I just returned from a week in Pattaya. Nothing like HK there. (but sessions with gals in Pattaya are only $33 per HR).
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2973486]It is a Bad Idea.[/QUOTE]Not for me.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2973624]Mid December until damn near late January is the worst time of the year to visit. Mostly all the top tier girls are out of town on vacation. That being said, I'm sure you will still find someone to your liking, it's just that there aren't as many options. If you go and see someone you like, approach her right away and try to seal the deal before someone else grabs her and keeps her busy the rest of your time there.[/QUOTE]But man, I bet it pours when they get back and need to refill their coffers.
[QUOTE=Dilwala;2973690]Based on this analysis will Jan 25 will also be draught situation? Any other clubs should I try?[/QUOTE]
1. HK.
2. Chicago.
3. Tropical.
4. The rest don't come close to comparing to the top 3 so I just avoid them altogether. If you're feeling adventurous, go take a peek, but chances are you will walk right out when you see only a handful of ugly to average looking girls sitting around doing nothing.
70% or so of the best looking girls should be back by the 25th.
Greetings all,
Finally, I am considering taking the plunge and buying HK's VIP card, my main reason for buying it is the 70% discount for the hotel room on mondays and tuesdays, I am a Tijuana local so I've always used motels for escorts and pay the short term hotel cost for HK girls.
Since prices have gone up on motels and the short term at Cascadas I think the discount makes more sense now, however, I've checked HK's website and they give you a list of benefits, I was wondering if any of you guy know if these are still valid or the website is just outdated:
A $95 value each visit!
70% Off Hotel Mon & Tues.
20% Off Bottles Mon & Tues.
20% Off in Hotel*.
50% Off HK Surprise.
20% off HK Souvenirs.
20% Off Restaurante Azul, Dine in.
20% Off Restaurant Senda Norte, Dine in.
VIP Room Access.
Free:
Limo Service.
Security Parking.
Personal Waiter.
First Drink.
Birthday Cake.
Also, the guys who have bought the VIP card, is it worth it for you? If so, why?
Thanks for your help!
[QUOTE=Rambo1969;2973756]Very well written.
It is the dancing gals of HK that make it the best club in the world for me.
I just returned from a week in Pattaya. Nothing like HK there. (but sessions with gals in Pattaya are only $33 per HR).[/QUOTE]It's entirely subjective on my end but Pattaya blows the fucking hell out of HK. No comparison. Literally not even at the same level: the The girls in Pattaya are just way prettier IMO.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2973892]70% or so of the best looking girls should be back by the 25th.[/QUOTE]I'll be in town for a couple days late next week and I'll report back on the quantity. It's been quite a while since visiting HK; spent most of my play money in Medellin. But I'm itching for a return where my international playing started many years ago.
Interestingly, for no specific eason, I've often visited Tijuana around the MLK holiday over the years. I've never found the selection to be discouraging. It's smaller than nornal, sure. But I'm generally patient and selective and I've never gone home empty because I couldn't find the one. (Or two. Hahaha).
[QUOTE=JustLoggedInto;2974006]It's entirely subjective on my end but Pattaya blows the fucking hell out of HK. No comparison. Literally not even at the same level: the The girls in Pattaya are just way prettier IMO.[/QUOTE]LOL. Subjective, very much true. Displayed right here, on your and my preferences. The reason why I did not like Pattaya is exactly because I did not find the women attractive, Externally and Internally Latinas rock my boat. Felt nothing about the women in Asia, did not like how they see the world, how they communicate and how they fack. I did not identify with it and I felt a stranger all the way to the last day I was there. In Tijuana I am right at home, feel I am part of that Christian Catholic culture although I follow the Orthodox Christianity faith.
[QUOTE=JustLoggedInto;2974006]It's entirely subjective on my end but Pattaya blows the fucking hell out of HK. No comparison. Literally not even at the same level: the The girls in Pattaya are just way prettier IMO.[/QUOTE]I live in Pattaya, but still go to HK bar once in a while. And I have a HK lady at this moment flying to meet me in Brazil.
So, it's a matter of personal taste at any particular moment.
To really maximize the HK VIP card value you need to stay there on a Monday and / or Tuesday night and get the 70% off.
The 20% off the rest of the nights isn't too much with the increased rates. 20% the restaurant just kinda nets their markup vs other food options in the area, but could be useful if your dining with girls often.
The VIP card is only valid for 3 months. The limo is free anyway.
No girls really want to do the lap dances & never figured out what the half off surprise was.
[QUOTE=JustLoggedInto;2974006]It's entirely subjective on my end but Pattaya blows the fucking hell out of HK. No comparison. Literally not even at the same level: the The girls in Pattaya are just way prettier IMO.[/QUOTE]I just returned from Pattaya.
It's a matter of personal preference. There are beautiful women in both places. Yes there more young women in Soi 6 clubs in Pattaya.
So it is easier to get beautiful young women in Pattaya. But the top HK women are every bit as good as Pattaya IMO.
I am dark skinned Indian who lives in the USA.
I found discrimination to be equally high at SOI 6 clubs in Pattaya. I was NOT welcomed as I walked down Soi 6 like the white guys were warmly welcomed. This was very hurtful and made me resent Soi 6.
Fortunately there was far less discrimination on beach road.
I was able to have great sessions at reasonable prices from gals on beach road for about $33/ HR.
I am interested in sensual experience. Not just F'ing. What I did not like about 'short time' service on beach road is that most would not agree to the entire hour being my time.
What I want it the full hour is mine, start with play time for the first 30 minutes before serious sex and most of the good looking gals on beach road would not accept that.
But enough cuties accepted it that I ultimately had a great time. After struggling to find the ones that agree to my terms.
Prices less than half what I normally pay in Tijuana.
I loved the beach and beach scene in Pattaya. And the fact that it is lit up at night is awesome and makes Pattaya very very special.
I will never forget her. I think she found her husband at HK. She was from MTY. Saw her in 2021/2022. Made some videos with her for her OF page. Has anyone seen this Gem recently?
[QUOTE=Rambo1969;2974342]I just returned from Pattaya.
It's a matter of personal preference. There are beautiful women in both places. Yes there more young women in Soi 6 clubs in Pattaya.
So it is easier to get beautiful young women in Pattaya. But the top HK women are every bit as good as Pattaya IMO.
I am dark skinned Indian who lives in the USA.
I found discrimination to be equally high at SOI 6 clubs in Pattaya. I was NOT welcomed as I walked down Soi 6 like the white guys were warmly welcomed. This was very hurtful and made me resent Soi 6.
Fortunately there was far less discrimination on beach road.
I was able to have great sessions at reasonable prices from gals on beach road for about $33/ HR.
I am interested in sensual experience. Not just F'ing. What I did not like about 'short time' service on beach road is that most would not agree to the entire hour being my time.
What I want it the full hour is mine, start with play time for the first 30 minutes before serious sex and most of the good looking gals on beach road would not accept that.
But enough cuties accepted it that I ultimately had a great time. After struggling to find the ones that agree to my terms.
Prices less than half what I normally pay in Tijuana.
I loved the beach and beach scene in Pattaya. And the fact that it is lit up at night is awesome and makes Pattaya very very special.[/QUOTE]I can't wait to get back to Thailand. One key fact is to not only visit Pattaya. It's fun there and I've done the Beach Road thing but I found Chiang Mai appealing also and a lot more laid back. It's good to switch it up sometimes and blaze a new trail for yourself.
[QUOTE=Rambo1969;2974342]I just returned from Pattaya.
It's a matter of personal preference. There are beautiful women in both places. Yes there more young women in Soi 6 clubs in Pattaya.
So it is easier to get beautiful young women in Pattaya. But the top HK women are every bit as good as Pattaya IMO.
I am dark skinned Indian who lives in the USA.
I found discrimination to be equally high at SOI 6 clubs in Pattaya. I was NOT welcomed as I walked down Soi 6 like the white guys were warmly welcomed. This was very hurtful and made me resent Soi 6.
Fortunately there was far less discrimination on beach road.
I was able to have great sessions at reasonable prices from gals on beach road for about $33/ HR.
I am interested in sensual experience. Not just F'ing. What I did not like about 'short time' service on beach road is that most would not agree to the entire hour being my time.
What I want it the full hour is mine, start with play time for the first 30 minutes before serious sex and most of the good looking gals on beach road would not accept that.
But enough cuties accepted it that I ultimately had a great time. After struggling to find the ones that agree to my terms.
Prices less than half what I normally pay in Tijuana.
I loved the beach and beach scene in Pattaya. And the fact that it is lit up at night is awesome and makes Pattaya very very special.[/QUOTE]
There is a remarkable negativity against Indians and Arabs in Thailand mongering world, specially in Pattaya and Bangkok. There is also a clear unabashed skin colorism attitude in the culture. Also some of the women can be outright nasty, like this old shaggy bar owner woman who was talking to me at her bar. I was not interested in what she was saying, she turned into a witch in an instant, took the beer I was drinking away from me and told me to get out. In pattaya and Bangkok pu--sy is like a bottle cork you find on the ground, no prudence about facking at all. I hated how the women's feet looked like, I hated the way they walked, the way they dressed, hated how the language sounded, LOL, sorry but I was miserable all the way. The only thing I liked was the food.
Also what bothered me was the large pile of European, Aussie and US American manhood clogging every bar you go to, day and night, in Pattaya. You can smell the stench of testosterone in the air. Goddamn western feminism made western men migrate like wildebeest in the East African Savannah. I wanted out, and be out quick.
Not sure if my previous post included pictures. This girl was a phenom from MTY. Rare to have a 10 body, great attitude and provide great service. She even had an OF page that I helped her with but she stopped it. Last she told me was that she found her BF in HK Feb 2022. If anyone has seen her, I would appreciate any leads.
Bare Elegance near LAX has the most beautiful dancers, American, Eastern European, South American, all light skinned. Their strip routines are the sexiest, most sensuous and artful, showing off their grace and feminine beauty.
[URL]https://www.bareelegance.com/[/URL]
Prices may have gone up, but couple years ago lap dances in the club were $50, $100 in curtained privados. But it has dinner specials every night, like steak and fries for $3 on Saturday, drinks $10-20.
Same people own the old, run down, blue-collared Jet Strip nearby with mostly black and Latina strippers.
Also free Azul's steak and eggs or buffet breakfast worth $13 Tuesday and Wednesday morning.
Azul's buffet breakfast has standard eggs, ham, pancake ect but varies day to day, not repeating, with some 15 new Mexican dishes. The line always starts with a hearty beef noodle soup, then varies daily with braised beef, pork, fried chicken, shrimp ceviche, menudo ect worth sampling. The menudo was made with cow stomach in a tomato sauce, smelled good and beefy, tasted creamy, better than any restaurant, a good treat for authentic Mexican cuisine. Man, I have to congratulate chef Alejandro for doing a good job feeding HK's VIPs and hot bar girls. Have to get a coupon from Cascada's front desk and exchange it to a voucher at HK's front desk before 10:15 AM or HK will deny it.
If you use the $70 for 3-month VIP for 70% Cascada's room discount on Mon or Tuesday only once, you save $65, add $13 for a free Azul's breakfast, a couple free VIP drinks, like $10 Julio 70 shots or $15 Pina Colada or Sex on the Beach, not counting other perks, so far you save $98 in the first visit, the VIP card immediately pays for itself. Perks in the rest of the 3 months are just pure profit.
For guys from out of state, it pays for itself on the first day. For guys within driving distances, it's an extremely good deal that should not be missed. After paying for the card, you only have to pay $32 for a single room in Cascada to have all night of fun partying with hot HK girls, sexy, exciting entertainment, then free breakfast in the morning. Cannot beat that anywhere in the world.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2974480]...... In pattaya and Bangkok pu--sy is like a bottle cork you find on the ground, no prudence about facking at all. I hated how the women's feet looked like, I hated the way they walked, the way they dressed, hated how the language sounded, LOL, sorry but I was miserable all the way......[/QUOTE]Fortunately for me I have learned to overcome such negative thinking and am able to appreciate other people's cultures. There is good and bad in every society and I seek out the good.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2974480]There is a remarkable negativity against Indians and Arabs in Thailand mongering world, specially in Pattaya and Bangkok. There is also a clear unabashed skin colorism attitude in the culture. Also some of the women can be outright nasty, like this old shaggy bar owner woman who was talking to me at her bar. I was not interested in what she was saying, she turned into a witch in an instant, took the beer I was drinking away from me and told me to get out. In pattaya and Bangkok pu--sy is like a bottle cork you find on the ground, no prudence about facking at all. I hated how the women's feet looked like, I hated the way they walked, the way they dressed, hated how the language sounded, LOL, sorry but I was miserable all the way. The only thing I liked was the food.
Also what bothered me was the large pile of European, Aussie and US American manhood clogging every bar you go to, day and night, in Pattaya. You can smell the stench of testosterone in the air. Goddamn western feminism made western men migrate like wildebeest in the East African Savannah. I wanted out, and be out quick.[/QUOTE]The biggest single issue with Pattaya is that one is dealing with the very lowest strata of Thai society. And, generally speaking, the lowest strata of Western society. I gave up on PTY long ago mostly due to the unrelenting, hardcore sleaze, and all of the weird-o sexpats and assorted ho chasers. Pattaya is to Thailand as Tijuana is to Mexico, or as Tangier is to Morocco. An aberration, for lack of a better word.
Many Asian cultures believe that white is "good" and black is "bad. " In that vein, white skin is considered more beautiful than dark skin. Check out most international beauty pageants and you'll fine that "Miss Thailand" tends not to be very pretty, by Western standards, but does tend to have milky skin. If you spend enough time in Thailand (outside of Pattaya) you tend to start preferring the lighter-skinned, more Chinese ethnicity, Thais over the darker Isaan girls. At least that was my experience.
I found that the more I learned of Thai society the more parallels I found to Mexican society. That's a discussion for another thread.
Anyway, I'm not too surprised at your reaction to Pattaya. But it's really not representative of Thailand as a whole.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2974480]There is a remarkable negativity against Indians and Arabs in Thailand mongering world, specially in Pattaya and Bangkok. There is also a clear unabashed skin colorism attitude in the culture. Also some of the women can be outright nasty, like this old shaggy bar owner woman who was talking to me at her bar. I was not interested in what she was saying, she turned into a witch in an instant, took the beer I was drinking away from me and told me to get out. In pattaya and Bangkok pu--sy is like a bottle cork you find on the ground, no prudence about facking at all. I hated how the women's feet looked like, I hated the way they walked, the way they dressed, hated how the language sounded, LOL, sorry but I was miserable all the way. The only thing I liked was the food.
Also what bothered me was the large pile of European, Aussie and US American manhood clogging every bar you go to, day and night, in Pattaya. You can smell the stench of testosterone in the air. Goddamn western feminism made western men migrate like wildebeest in the East African Savannah. I wanted out, and be out quick.[/QUOTE]Thing is these places in the world are not easy to find.
Frankfurt and FKKs are amazing. I'll grant that.
But Eastern Europe was vacant as far as easy pussy.
London is great but expensive.
Madrid is great.
Most of the Arab world sucks, and Dubai is super expensive.
India has bad game I hear.
Russia I wouldn't go to. Ukraine either.
Africa? Yeah. No.
Southeast Asia is super far for Americans.
Tokyo has those dating clubs but they're like 300 per setup not counting the date.
Really when you come down to it, if you live in the Western United States, Latin America's kind of the only game in town so to speak.
[QUOTE=JustLoggedInto;2974006]It's entirely subjective on my end but Pattaya blows the fucking hell out of HK. No comparison. Literally not even at the same level: the The girls in Pattaya are just way prettier IMO.[/QUOTE]You have to like east asian looking women though, which I don't. Something about them is just a turn off for me, to the extent that if the only women in the world were asian women, I'd probably be celibate. It's Latinas all the way for me.
I'm heading back down there soon, I have a couple of friends that want to join me but one doesn't have a passport. Is it necessary to cross the border back into the states on foot? I remember when I was there in Nov it looked like people were presenting DL / ID's, not passports.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2974818]You have to like east asian looking women though, which I don't. Something about them is just a turn off for me, to the extent that if the only women in the world were asian women, I'd probably be celibate. It's Latinas all the way for me.[/QUOTE]Same here, but not only looks an natural body structure, also really has to do what the applicable culture made out of the women. Culture influences, movement style, tone of voice, style of communication, attitude. As an example, Although I am infatuated with the ladies in the Latin world, I would not touch those Latinas in the US with a long stick.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2974480]There is a remarkable negativity against Indians and Arabs in Thailand mongering world, specially in Pattaya and Bangkok. There is also a clear unabashed skin colorism attitude in the culture. Also some of the women can be outright nasty, like this old shaggy bar owner woman who was talking to me at her bar. I was not interested in what she was saying, she turned into a witch in an instant, took the beer I was drinking away from me and told me to get out. In pattaya and Bangkok pu--sy is like a bottle cork you find on the ground, no prudence about facking at all. I hated how the women's feet looked like, I hated the way they walked, the way they dressed, hated how the language sounded, LOL, sorry but I was miserable all the way. The only thing I liked was the food.
Also what bothered me was the large pile of European, Aussie and US American manhood clogging every bar you go to, day and night, in Pattaya. You can smell the stench of testosterone in the air. Goddamn western feminism made western men migrate like wildebeest in the East African Savannah. I wanted out, and be out quick.[/QUOTE]It's true in the US, Instagram, Only fans, the internet is full of semi-nude and naked women but if you want to pay for safe, legal sex you have to go abroad, it's crazy. Tijuana has this good side that it's too far for Europeans and Aussies and has a bad reputation. They think that in Tijuana you will be immediately kidnapped for ransom and tortured by the cartel etc. East coast of the US guys prefer the Dominican Republic. That's why Tijuana is not overloaded with guys like Thailand or Amsterdam.
[QUOTE=Dac007;2974874]I'm heading back down there soon, I have a couple of friends that want to join me but one doesn't have a passport. Is it necessary to cross the border back into the states on foot? I remember when I was there in Nov it looked like people were presenting DL / ID's, not passports.[/QUOTE]You need a passport to enter Tijuana and US. What you must have seen is a passport card. Do not go without one.
Monday afternoon before NY Eve drove down with Obi-Wan, Papaya and Mace Windu, a noob from LA, for Cascada's 70% room discount Monday and Tuesday nights leading to HK's NY Eve's party. OB1 and Papaya had arranged for their favorite girls to fly in for NYE. OB1 was way excited after being absent 3 months. Papaya said he was working hard on overtime the last month, needed a vacation and relaxation with HK girls, but groaned that he needed to cut down on his spending on drinks and sex with them.
Went to lunch and drinks at a couple places on Ave revo, to be reported separately, then walked back to HK. Wingmen talked to their mesero buddies, Pollo and Benito, to arrange for a table next to the stage for NY Eve's party. HK's Captain Julius, big guy with a big tummy and a goatee, was chummy, suggested better to take a booth for 4 away from the stage against the wall, for ONLY $400 with full credit for drinks! I smelled a rip off bullshit so declined to partake. The booth would be way too crammed even with 4 guys, so where would the girls sit? I prefer to float around the club, seeing, meeting and sitting with girls than getting stuck in a crammed booth. But being always generous to their alleged friends, OB1 and Papaya took HK's offer for the table without negotiating. These wingmen get way too chummy with HK's meseros and workers, often get ripped off by them. Will see how that deal worked out on NY eve.
The night before NY Eve we were sitting at the football booth, drinking with girls, watching sports. Traffic in the club was very light, with about half the normal number of girls and guys. Papaya was in his own booth having a major DATY withdrawal with HK putas after 3 months. He engaged Pollo to go around scouting all putas present for DATY but all turned him down, except an older, big and flabby woman. Papaya took the big girl up to the room in a hurry to eat that big, juicy pussy. After about an hour, he came down looking happy and satisfied. He loves to give money and pleasures to the girls. One night he bought champagne for 5 girls at his table then took all to the room, eating them out one by one, giving them orgasms and felt good about it. How the hell could 5 girls fit on his bed I would never know. He's a soft, sweet, nice, generous guy, so the putas call him Papaya.
Pollo was still scouting for Papaya so he quickly brought over a new girl, unknown to HK workers. They had a few drinks then went upstairs. Came down after about 1 hour, Papaya looked flustered and tired. He sat in the booth, had a beer, but his face turned red and sweaty, he was mumbling and fainting at the table. OB1 and another guy tried to pull him out of the booth but could not move him due to his weight. 2 beefy security guys pulled him out and shouldered him out to the front of the club. He was limb. They set him sitting up against the wall looking out Calle Coahuila by himself. Meanwhile the party continued uninterrupted inside HK. Nobody was checking on poor Papaya.
After a while he recovered and went back inside to his table, looking tired, sweaty and disoriented. He forgot what happened with the unknown girl in the room and how he was shouldered outside to sit on Coahuila. He suspected she scoped him, but she disappeared and HK workers had no idea who she was; the case was dropped. Papaya looked and acted normal on the drive down, but has always been less than quick and energetic among wingmen, except perhaps only when he tries his hardest to give putas their orgasms hehe. Looked to me he was tired after 2 hard, long sessions and had a mild stroke in the room. The next night in NY Eve party he was again confused and claimed to have lost $140 cash in his pocket at HK's front desk. To me they were symptoms of his loss of mental capacity due to a mild stroke. I strongly suggested him to get thoroughly tested and checked out by good cardiologists and physicians and take remedial procedures, but not convinced he took the symptoms seriously. I lost wingmen and have seen guys died outside Tijuana bars on the street in similar situations before.
Meanwhile we were sitting, drinking at the football table. A few wingmen came by and drank with us. OB1 met up with his favorite HK girl, Samantha from CDMX, took her to his room. He said she stayed with him from 10 to 4 AM next morning, drank 2 Korbel bottles, with non-stop all BB action all night, for $200. Man, what a good deal with that pretty girl.
Mondays are usually slow, but at yearend, only about half of the girls show up for work, not to many hot ones. Mace was watching them, eventually took a girl up, a cut back from 3 successive girls in the last trip.
I spotted a tall, slim, beautiful girl with a pretty, innocent face wearing eyeglasses, dancing at the pole. Gave her propinas and checked her assets, all natural, firm, tight, dry, smooth skin, no tats. Invited her to the table for cervezas; she quickly accepted. I was kissing her lips, hands roaming all over her boobs and her crotch. This girl was incredibly beautiful, nice, clean, innocent, a Tijuana native with nice, gentle manners but spoke no Anglais. Her sweet, pretty Latina face with pouty lips looks 90% like Brooke Shield in the movie The Blue Lagoon. She was drinking slowly, open to go on vacation to Cancun with me. She was keying her tel number into my phone when she found hers already in my contact list. Then I remember bagging her a couple months back, feeding her the whole pizza by herself. She was young, strong and always hungry. She wanted $150 for a session but agreed to $130. We went up to the room.
She was overall one of the most beautiful girl in HK, with her pretty, innocent face and beautiful, flawless body, smooth dry skin, all natural, no tats. She smelled good, felt and tasted good. I was kissing her lips, sucking her tits, my face was in her crotch sucking her clit and her pussy, fingering her sticky G spot to give her pleasure. She was squirming, moaning softly, told me " Mas! Mas!" hehe. It was very difficult to find a girl in HK or any bars in Latin America like this one who met all my criteria. Session with her was one of the sweetest, sexiest and most satisfying. After the session she urged me to shower, then asked me plaintively in her nice, quiet way to buy her more cervezas and comida in the club. She was so pretty, nice, sweet, beautiful I could never turn down her requests. I was turning into another Papaya hehe.
Back down to HK, I bought her beers. She ordered a plate of fried chicken nugget and a pizza with my 2 4 1 Azul's coupon. Like last time, this beautiful young girl had a prodigious appetite for food. She steadily consumed by herself the chicken plate, then the pizza, piece by piece. I tasted a chicken nugget; Azuls did a much better job frying solid chicken chunks with good chicken taste and flavor, unlike McDonald's nuggets which are lumpy and tasteless like clay. I regret not offering food to this hungry young girl before the session while we were drinking. With her gentle and quiet manners, this is a perfect girl to take on vacations to nice places.
A few bros came by and drank with us, including an airlines pilot and an Air Traffic Controller. Man, I hope these guys drink that much only when they party with us and not while on the job hehe. We were having fun anticipating the NY Eve party the next night, to be reported separately.
[QUOTE=Dac007;2974874]I'm heading back down there soon, I have a couple of friends that want to join me but one doesn't have a passport. Is it necessary to cross the border back into the states on foot? I remember when I was there in Nov it looked like people were presenting DL / ID's, not passports.[/QUOTE]Don't pay attention to the web or guys on this board that say you need a passport. If your a US citizen a drivers license will be fine. They might just make you go to secondary to verify you are that person.
This subject has been asked for years and I have yet to hear anyone say they were denied entry because they don't have a passport. I even know people that cross with just a birth certificate. It happens all the time they just want people to think you need it to save them time.
Now the part that has been more difficult is getting into Mexico. I drive so they never ask but from what I read they are stricter about it if you enter by foot. Before they might ask for a fee to enter without a passport but not sure if they still do that. I think some have also said that they don't ask for anything if you cross at Otay.
Don't want to quote the entire thing but good report from CS.
Stopped by last night to see who was around. Seemed pretty much the same as last week, with things clearly not back up to speed yet but that was expected. Ran into a girl from Durango I have known for a year now. We sat down and had some drinks while we caught up with each other. Says she's only here for two weeks and has to head back home to continue her studies. Saw another girl I know pass by a little later and bought her some drinks too. She said she is also only here for about another week. She said since business is slow she will come back in February. I wasn't going to pay the ridiculous ST fee so I took her to the lap dance room and got a BBBJ. Might go back today with the VIP 70% off hotel room to bang her if I have the time.
The lap dance was $15/5 minutes with VIP card. Asked if the discount would apply for the 12 minute option but they said 5 minutes only. I gave the guy $20 and he wanted to keep $5 as his tip. I told him to give me back $2 figuring I could use it to tip a couple chicas on my way out LOL.
[QUOTE=Sol12;2975136]Don't pay attention to the web or guys on this board that say you need a passport. If your a US citizen a drivers license will be fine. They might just make you go to secondary to verify you are that person.
This subject has been asked for years and I have yet to hear anyone say they were denied entry because they don't have a passport. I even know people that cross with just a birth certificate. It happens all the time they just want people to think you need it to save them time.
Now the part that has been more difficult is getting into Mexico. I drive so they never ask but from what I read they are stricter about it if you enter by foot. Before they might ask for a fee to enter without a passport but not sure if they still do that. I think some have also said that they don't ask for anything if you cross at Otay.[/QUOTE]Dude a guy who was a carrier US military person sneaked into Mexico acting like he was local, on the way back the US border control made life a living hell for him for 12 hours. Constantly being passed around from agent to agent for interviews. The official position is have your passport. This is what you should tell people.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2975409]Dude a guy who was a carrier US military person sneaked into Mexico acting like he was local, on the way back the US border control made life a living hell for him for 12 hours. Constantly being passed around from agent to agent for interviews. The official position is have your passport. This is what you should tell people.[/QUOTE]I appreciate you proving my point that you don't need a passport if you're a US citizen. Now to think that you're going to be stuck for up to 12 hours is funny. Not sure on your knowledge of this story. Also it's well known that military personnel are not allowed to visit Tijuana if I remember correctly and maybe they held him waiting for military personnel to come get him. The way you tell the story seems like it's something you watched on television and not first hand knowledge.
Like I said I personally know people that have crossed with only a birth certificate and it didn't take long at all. Also know another person that crossed with just a ID. On top of that I've seen plenty of other things.
I don't care what the person does I just give facts. He's an adult and can decide for himself if he wants to cross based on facts. I can't believe on a site that talks about having sex with prostitutes, sex with prostitutes without a condom, and sometimes guys that are into drugs the thing that we need to put or foot down on and follow the law is don't go without a passport because it might cause you a few extra minutes when returning from what might be the best time of his life. Por favor!
[QUOTE=StRobert;2974970]It's true in the US, Instagram, Only fans, the internet is full of semi-nude and naked women but if you want to pay for safe, legal sex you have to go abroad, it's crazy. Tijuana has this good side that it's too far for Europeans and Aussies and has a bad reputation. They think that in Tijuana you will be immediately kidnapped for ransom and tortured by the cartel etc. East coast of the US guys prefer the Dominican Republic. That's why Tijuana is not overloaded with guys like Thailand or Amsterdam.[/QUOTE]If in Asia the culture thinks white is good, In Latin America the culture thinks white is gullible, I think. The share of the presence of Europeans in Tijuana is extremely small. In general Tijuana has a terrible reputation everywhere including in the west coast of the US. There is some merit to it, but to me, I encourage people to continue think that way whenever I can.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2975409]Dude a guy who was a carrier US military person sneaked into Mexico acting like he was local, on the way back the US border control made life a living hell for him for 12 hours. Constantly being passed around from agent to agent for interviews. The official position is have your passport. This is what you should tell people.[/QUOTE]Been going down for decades. Getting back w a USA state license, especially now that everyone should have their Real ID drivers license is not a problem. Getting in is. Don't screw around trying to offer a bribe. On the Ped West side there is a bus you can take into Tijuana for a buck or two. Mex side does not stop it so you are in. Drops you downtown. Real drivers license gets you out. Maybe the military person was not supposed to be in Mx due to what he does in the military.
[QUOTE=Sol12;2975429]I appreciate you proving my point that you don't need a passport if you're a US citizen. Now to think that you're going to be stuck for up to 12 hours is funny. Not sure on your knowledge of this story. Also it's well known that military personnel are not allowed to visit Tijuana if I remember correctly and maybe they held him waiting for military personnel to come get him. The way you tell the story seems like it's something you watched on television and not first hand knowledge.
Like I said I personally know people that have crossed with only a birth certificate and it didn't take long at all. Also know another person that crossed with just a ID. On top of that I've seen plenty of other things.
I don't care what the person does I just give facts. He's an adult and can decide for himself if he wants to cross based on facts. I can't believe on a site that talks about having sex with prostitutes, sex with prostitutes without a condom, and sometimes guys that are into drugs the thing that we need to put or foot down on and follow the law is don't go without a passport because it might cause you a few extra minutes when returning from what might be the best time of his life. Por favor![/QUOTE]Post 9/11 you're supposed to have a passport to get in and out. Its required. The question is whether it's enforced. They're not going to tell an obviously American man without a passport "sorry guess you're stuck in Mexico. Come back when someone mails you your passport. " And they're not going to waste the consulates time on this. But it doesn't mean it's a good idea. Why would someone not have a passport? That's the real question. Just get it done.
I have global entry entry so this doesn't really apply to me. But I have friends I want to take and they don't.
What's the fastest way to cross back in that does not require standing in line for 1-2 hours? Whenever I'm crossing, I get offered to join a bus, but I've heard those can take a long time also. Back in the day, you could rent a bike for five dollars because a bike would get you to the front of the line. But they don't do that anymore. What's the best plan now?
I realize I'm doing more asking than sharing. But look at my profile. I'm a sharer. With that I have a question.
I am looking for panty dropper restaurants in Tijuana. The kind that make your dates feel like they'd never go without your gringo ass giving them a taste of the good life.
I already know misiķn, oryx, Faustine, ancor, crema why Verde, Justina, that Italian place across from grand hotel, and Georgina. Those are my regular rotation.
Is there anything new that's just sick and sexy?
Nothing,
You write very good reports too.
I try to focus on specific topics and pack only enough info about good deals and juicy details into short paragraphs so it's easier to read. My wingmen have very good intels about TJn but unlike you, they are scared to write or post, may be disgusted by stupid, ugly bullies in public forums.
Wonder why a seasoned HK monger like you would want to spend $15 for 5 minutes in the tiny, airless lap dance booths, feel like coffins. HK girls should give you plenty of long, juicy lap dances in the club with a few drinks. Couple girls were all over me, straddling, rocking, rubbing, kissing, squeezing, hands inside my brief jacking, while I generally returned the same favors in the middle of the club hehe. Nobody interfered or objected.
La Zona and Tijuana have a lot of good fun, good food cheap, even more enjoyable with a couple good wingmen.
Tuesday morning met wingmen in Azul's for HK VIPs' free breakfast with steak and eggs or a buffet with normal eggs, ham, sausages and 15 Mexican dishes, very good deal.
Walked to the Catedral Plaza for Mace Windu to find a good neck massage. The shops wanted $30 for half hour. Alleged holistic massage guys, with vans parked on calle 3 next to the catedral, wanted $20 for an hour. Mace passed.
OB1 caught up with us on Calle 3. We took the yellow Taxi de Ruta to Playa, 15 pesos each. Got dropped off at the Walmart, walked 1 block to the beach. They built 8-ft high sand berms on the beach to protect houses and restaurants from high surf. As usual the sea-food restaurants on beach front, like LOS Arcos Playa, are expensive, $5 shrimp tacos, $15 ceviche, $5 beers.
Walked to the Friendship Park at the border with Trump's new, tall, high-tech steel fence, up to 27-ft high, bristling with barbed wires and security cameras. Just don't see anyway humans can climb over that fence. Falling down from that height means certain deathly injuries.
Checked out a beach-front hotel as potential love nest with hot HK girls, $80 a night, damn expensive. Took the taxi de ruta back to El Centro.
Luke has been my Tijuana wingman for over 15 years, sometimes I would pose for pics for his wife, with cards in hand, as USC frat brothers playing card with Luke all night. He's undergoing a divorce, living in Tijuana, had custody and brought his children down for year end, treated them to K Spot, $20 AYCE Korean charcoal grill, supposedly the best in Tijuana, but he was running out of fun places to take them. We all feel for their situation so made arrangement for lunch with them at Chen Lung Chinese restaurant in Centro, allegedly the most authentic Chinese place in town. We had a New Year banquet with roast duck, roast pork, steamed chicken, steamed fish, beef, shrimp ect, all were good, fresh, tasty. Luke packed 6 bento boxes of leftover to go.
After lunch walked to Telephonica Gastronomic with craft brewers on site for some craft beers but the place was closed, probably open only on weekend. Car traffic was very light due to New Year holiday.
Got back to HK about 5. Unlike previous years HK made no special preparation for NY Eve's party. The club was light. Tables around the main stage were not sold to big spenders. Guys were sitting around the stage, drinking beers, watching the strip show, ogling girls all night for free. HK girls complained big shows take all the attention, crash their business. Looked like HK decided to do away with big shows.
We were sitting at the football booth drinking all night, not having to buy the big, most expensive table in the club, likely $800 min. Papaya sat in his $400 booth with Paulina flown in from Guadalajara, Obi-Wan with Samantha from Mexico City. They bought 3 champagne bottles for their girls with the booze credit. I poured a shot for myself and one for Mace Windu but Samantha objected that it was her champagne. Man, she's a nice, young, slim, pretty girl. Eventually the 2 guys took their girls to the hotels. Samantha stayed all night with OB1 in Rizo, this time for free. Looks like she has special feelings for him. But it got even better. The following Monday she wanted him to come back and stayed with him 2 days for free, all BBFS but no anal. He took her out to 2 fancy dinners at Mochomos and Lorenza, costed $428 total, WTF? Some restaurants in Tijuana are stupidly expensive, only stupid narcos loaded with drugs money can afford. Unless she's the only daughter of Carlos Sim, girls in Mexico are all desperate for money. My guess is she would have been grateful if he took her to the cheap Ruta 3 on Revo for food and drinks and hand her the rest of the money.
Chewbacca had a session with an escort, came down to drink with us, said he had not taken any HK girls for a very long time and would not take one this time, just hanging out, drinking with wingmen, WTF? He's a red-headed Irish guy, very nice, sweet, generous wingman who has been known to drink a couple bottles of liquor per night in the past. I have no idea why some guys just don't have whiskey dicks. There were very few girls in the club, not many attractive ones. I found my Brooke Shield sitting by herself near the front door, invited her over for a beer, no food this time. We had a long haggle over the price and she grudgingly agreed to a slightly lower price than last night. She's all business in nice, quiet ways. We went up to the room. I had way too much alcohol all night so had just a quick session, but it was very nice holding this beautiful girl in bed. She left. I fell asleep, missing out on the count down in the club.
Wingmen said there was no midnight show, only a few HK managers and girls on the stage counting down, throwing confetti and lentil beans. Girls were cracking and eating them on the spot or saving them in their handbags. Wingmen got the football table for free until 2 AM when they got chased out for some guys who bought bottles. They just moved to another free table.
HK's NY eve's party this year was not crowded, not exciting or interesting, just business as usual. Wingmen said they had a fun trip outside of HK, exploring Tijuana and Ave Revo with its good food, good drinks, fun, laid back life styles, also had a good lunch.
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2975554]I have global entry entry so this doesn't really apply to me. But I have friends I want to take and they don't.
What's the fastest way to cross back in that does not require standing in line for 1-2 hours? Whenever I'm crossing, I get offered to join a bus, but I've heard those can take a long time also. Back in the day, you could rent a bike for five dollars because a bike would get you to the front of the line. But they don't do that anymore. What's the best plan now?[/QUOTE]There is no plan. Just leave late at night and there will be little or no line. Like 10 pm and later.
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2975556]I realize I'm doing more asking than sharing. But look at my profile. I'm a sharer. With that I have a question.
I am looking for panty dropper restaurants in Tijuana. The kind that make your dates feel like they'd never go without your gringo ass giving them a taste of the good life.
I already know misin, oryx, Faustine, ancor, crema why Verde, Justina, that Italian place across from grand hotel, and Georgina. Those are my regular rotation.
Is there anything new that's just sick and sexy?[/QUOTE]Ancor is really overrated.
Try La Garra. Best oysters I've ever eaten and the special chocolate dessert is something you need to see to believe. Excellent service. Very popular. Make reservations.
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2975551]Post 9/11 you're supposed to have a passport to get in and out. Its required. The question is whether it's enforced. They're not going to tell an obviously American man without a passport "sorry guess you're stuck in Mexico. Come back when someone mails you your passport. " And they're not going to waste the consulates time on this. But it doesn't mean it's a good idea. Why would someone not have a passport? That's the real question. Just get it done.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your balanced assessment. Telling people they do not need a passport to enter Mexico and the USA from international location is wrong. Telling it like you did is correct. Border control may or may not make it easy. You are leaving your ease of passage to their discretion.
Here is the official word from [URL]https://www.help.cbp.gov[/URL].
Land or Sea Travel: USA Citizens (including infants and children) entering the United States by land or sea are required to present a valid WHTI-compliant travel document. These include:
USA Passport or USA Passport Card.
Enhanced Driver's License (FYI this is not real ID).
Enhanced Tribal Card.
Trusted Traveler Program (TTP) cards* (Global Entry* NEXUS, or SENTRI).
USA Military orders (PCS) with valid military ID. Accompanying immediate family members can use any WHTI-compliant travel document.
USA Merchant Mariner Credential with official travel letter.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2975650]Telling people they do not need a passport to enter Mexico and the USA from international location is wrong. Telling it like you did is correct. Border control may or may not make it easy. You are leaving your ease of passage to their discretion.
Here is the official word from [URL]https://www.help.cbp.gov[/URL].[/QUOTE]So I guess you just like to lie to people. Obviously the person that posted the question knew what the law is anyone can look it up. His question was in reference to seeing others use what he perceived as just a ID. So since this board is dedicated to those that have crossed often he wanted to verify if his friend didn't have a passport that he could still return. The answer is yes if he is a US citizen. I also said he might have to go to secondary to prove who he is.
You said flat out that you need a passport.
So from those two stories who is really telling the truth and letting the person decide? Because later you told a story about someone let into the US without a passport. Why didn't you tell that story in the beginning? That way the person would have a better idea of the possible delay in his return. You didn't give him that option instead trying to lie.
Maybe you like to lie to people and force them to do what you think is correct, I don't believe in that especially after the last 5 years and the government trying to tell us something that wasn't true because they want to control us.
I believe in man's free will.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2975650]Here is the official word from [URL]https://www.help.cbp.gov[/URL].
Land or Sea Travel: USA Citizens (including infants and children) entering the United States by land or sea are required to present a valid WHTI-compliant travel document. These include:
USA Passport or USA Passport Card.
Enhanced Driver's License (FYI this is not real ID).
Enhanced Tribal Card.
Trusted Traveler Program (TTP) cards* (Global Entry* NEXUS, or SENTRI)..[/QUOTE]Since you like to go by what it says on the official CBP website you might want to read this.
[URL]https://www.cbp.gov/travel/us-citizens/western-hemisphere-travel-initiative/faqs[/URL]
And if you got to the question about what happens if you don't have a passport or alternative travel document. It clearly says.
What happens to persons who attempt to enter or re-enter the country without a passport or an alternative travel document?
For the general public, people who apply for entry but do not have appropriate documentation will likely be referred for secondary screening at the port. In secondary, Customs and Border Protection officers will evaluate evidence of citizenship or identity the individual may have and will verify all information against available databases.
Like I said this isn't the first time this has been asked on this board or others but I guess people that have no clue about this only go off what limited knowledge they have but act like experts.
[QUOTE=Sol12;2975728]Since you like to go by what it says on the official CBP website you might want to read this.
[URL]https://www.cbp.gov/travel/us-citizens/western-hemisphere-travel-initiative/faqs[/URL]
And if you got to the question about what happens if you don't have a passport or alternative travel document. It clearly says.
What happens to persons who attempt to enter or re-enter the country without a passport or an alternative travel document?
For the general public, people who apply for entry but do not have appropriate documentation will likely be referred for secondary screening at the port. In secondary, Customs and Border Protection officers will evaluate evidence of citizenship or identity the individual may have and will verify all information against available databases.
Like I said this isn't the first time this has been asked on this board or others but I guess people that have no clue about this only go off what limited knowledge they have but act like experts.[/QUOTE]Telling people passports are not necessary is a wrong thing to do. Please don't do that. Secondary are not always nice, in fact they are usually pricks. They could put a note in your profile and you could be harassed every-time you get in even with allowed docs. Whenever you want their permits like TWIC, GE etc. That note will come up. Not a good idea. Also, you could be refused entry into Mexico if you catch them in one of their stricter moods.
This conversation is closed on my side.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2975772]Telling people passports are not necessary is a wrong thing to do. Please don't do that. Secondary are not always nice, in fact they are usually pricks. They could put a note in your profile and you could be harassed every-time you get in even with allowed docs. Whenever you want their permits like TWIC, GE etc. That note will come up. Not a good idea. Also, you could be refused entry into Mexico if you catch them in one of their stricter moods.
This conversation is closed on my side.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the comments. It looks like you are both correct. You definitely should have a passport but I've seen dozens and dozens of posts across the internet about people crossing with their ID / DL experiencing just a short delay they especially indicated that a REAL ID makes it easier since only a few states currently have enhanced ID's. Haven't seen any 12 hour horror stories. I also think ethnicity may play a part in how long they detain you. If you're a Hispanic man, of course they will be a bit more suspicious. I'll see if my friend wants to roll the dice and try it.
[QUOTE=Dac007;2975927]I appreciate the comments. It looks like you are both correct. You definitely should have a passport but I've seen dozens and dozens of posts across the internet about people crossing with their ID / DL experiencing just a short delay they especially indicated that a REAL ID makes it easier since only a few states currently have enhanced ID's. Haven't seen any 12 hour horror stories. I also think ethnicity may play a part in how long they detain you. If you're a Hispanic man, of course they will be a bit more suspicious. I'll see if my friend wants to roll the dice and try it.[/QUOTE]You're an idiot. You need a passport. Simple as that. "Real ID" doesn't mean shit dude. You're not in California. You're in a different country. Get with the program and use a passport.
[QUOTE=Dac007;2975927]I appreciate the comments. It looks like you are both correct. You definitely should have a passport but I've seen dozens and dozens of posts across the internet about people crossing with their ID / DL experiencing just a short delay they especially indicated that a REAL ID makes it easier since only a few states currently have enhanced ID's. Haven't seen any 12 hour horror stories. I also think ethnicity may play a part in how long they detain you. If you're a Hispanic man, of course they will be a bit more suspicious. I'll see if my friend wants to roll the dice and try it.[/QUOTE]San Ysidro pedestrian border crossing has a one way revolving door. This means that if you enter Mexican territory (Tijuana) through this door, you cannot return to the US the same way. In case you do not have documents like a passport, passport card and are not allowed into Mexico, Mexican marines will escort you to the US entrance (not far away) and hand you over to US officers, CBP. Then probably to an office behind glass where you have to prove that you are a US citizen. That is what biometric passports and passport cards are for, because otherwise any good Russian, Mossad or other agent with a perfect American accent can easily enter the US. It is true, in the past about 20 years ago you could enter Tijuana without documents because there was no Mexican border guard, and you can return to the US with a driving license. Now it is much more difficult.
I've crossed the border without any document.
I explained to the border patrol agent that I lost my wallet and he let me through. No secondary.
That being said, it is unwise to try to cross without the proper documents (passport or passport card). You are really leaving it to the discretion of the border patrol whether to let you cross. I assume if you are legally allowed to enter the US, that this will eventually be determined and you will be allowed to cross, but only after varying degrees of hassle and delay. Certainly this is not something you would want to attempt habitually.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2976088]I've crossed the border without any document.
I explained to the border patrol agent that I lost my wallet and he let me through. No secondary.
That being said, it is unwise to try to cross without the proper documents (passport or passport card). You are really leaving it to the discretion of the border patrol whether to let you cross. I assume if you are legally allowed to enter the US, that this will eventually be determined and you will be allowed to cross, but only after varying degrees of hassle and delay. Certainly this is not something you would want to attempt habitually.[/QUOTE]I have a friend who lives in San Diego. She loves to come down to visit me when I'm in Tijuana and the girl has no passport just a California ID card. I have global entry. I refuse to cross with her if we happen to go back at the same time. She's my homegirl and I love her and all but I ain't waiting in that line LOL.
Having said this they do seem to give her no issues getting back into the USA which amazes me as I told her she really should have a passport to cross. She's stubborn tho and insists she's fine crossing with just her California ID.
[QUOTE=Daytonamonger;2976153]I have a friend who lives in San Diego. She loves to come down to visit me when I'm in Tijuana and the girl has no passport just a California ID card. I have global entry. I refuse to cross with her if we happen to go back at the same time. She's my homegirl and I love her and all but I ain't waiting in that line LOL.
Having said this they do seem to give her no issues getting back into the USA which amazes me as I told her she really should have a passport to cross. She's stubborn tho and insists she's fine crossing with just her California ID.[/QUOTE]Now I'm curious about her getting into Mexico. Walking in at San ysidro is usually where the problem is. They insist on passport or passport card and won't even accept sentri or GE.
I know going back to the USA Is not much of an issue. One time an amigo forgot his ID and had no issues making it back with his ralphs card and no trip to secondary.
[QUOTE=Daytonamonger;2976153]I have a friend who lives in San Diego. She loves to come down to visit me when I'm in Tijuana and the girl has no passport just a California ID card. I have global entry. I refuse to cross with her if we happen to go back at the same time. She's my homegirl and I love her and all but I ain't waiting in that line LOL.
Having said this they do seem to give her no issues getting back into the USA which amazes me as I told her she really should have a passport to cross. She's stubborn tho and insists she's fine crossing with just her California ID.[/QUOTE]I don't understand why anyone cares if others cross back I to usa with out a passport. I mean many millions of people move here every year and their entire criminal history doesn't count against them since their felonies and murders happneed in other countries. Meanwhile an American arrested for shoplifting 30 yrs ago may still have that going against them. So if everyone and anyone is allowednin usa what significance is the us passport anyway.
[QUOTE=ABAJoeSmith123;2975985]You're an idiot. You need a passport. Simple as that. "Real ID" doesn't mean shit dude. You're not in California. You're in a different country. Get with the program and use a passport.[/QUOTE]I have my passport, I was asking for a friend who doesn't. If you are going to reply with a BS nasty attitude just keep you comments to yourself. Most people here are respectful, stop being a douche.
[QUOTE=Dac007;2976269]I have my passport, I was asking for a friend who doesn't.......[/QUOTE]I remember the days when I used to visit Tijuana regularly (1980's). I used to just walk into Mexico, no questions asked, no one even looked at you. Many times no one even around. Good old days.
[QUOTE=ABAJoeSmith123;2975985]You're an idiot. You need a passport. Simple as that. "Real ID" doesn't mean shit dude. You're not in California. You're in a different country. Get with the program and use a passport.[/QUOTE]Update, I'm coming down there next week. The friends I mentioned live in LA and decided to go this weekend, I wasn't coming, too much football this weekend, didn't want to watch at HK or a tiny hotel TV. They went down Friday afternoon, came back Sat afternoon. My friend with no passport was able go get back with his California DL with little issues. They did question why he doesn't have his passport but told him they would have detained much longer if he was or looked Hispanic. They asked him if the address on his DL was current, what were the cross streets of his home, directions to his home from LAX, what high school he attended and the mascot of the school. Finally the system works in favor of a black man! Guess I'm not that much of an idiot!
[QUOTE=BaxterSlade;2976228]Now I'm curious about her getting into Mexico. Walking in at San ysidro is usually where the problem is. They insist on passport or passport card and won't even accept sentri or GE.
I know going back to the USA Is not much of an issue. One time an amigo forgot his ID and had no issues making it back with his ralphs card and no trip to secondary.[/QUOTE]Why would Mexico let someone in with a sentri or global entry? Those are US programs for entry into the US, they have nothing to do with Mexico.
Headed down last night a little bit past 10.2nd floor was fully open. Chica selection was ok. Bumped into a friend of one of my ATF's upstairs and we talked for a while without having to buy her a drink. We were discussing a little drama that happened after our last threesome. We were both on the same page in regards to what had happened so basically we were just talking shit about the other girl LOL. Only 1 mesero eventually approached me to buy her a drink but I quickly waved him off. She still stayed and talked to me for about an additional five minutes or so. When the conversation winded down I told her I was going to make a couple rounds and maybe catch up later.
Spotted a pretty girl (slim, all natural, brunette) in a string bikini I had seen once or twice before but she was always drinking with other clients. I finally saw her alone so I had a mesero grab her for me so I could feel her out. I believe she said her working name was Kaylani from Puerto Vallarta and 18 years old. She asked if she could order wine. Since I really wasn't looking to do any arribas on this night and knew I wouldn't be spending a large amount of money on anything else, I playfully told her fine but only if she didn't down it right away. She giggled and promised not to. I sort of looked at it as a long term investment in case things went well. To her credit she made the wine last a good half hour or so while we talked and she danced a little. Alternatively it was also nice not having a mesero hound us every 5 minutes to buy her another beer. She was cool but I wouldn't necessarily label her a sure fire thing yet. The real test will be when I have my own room for the night and get her together with another one of my chica friends to loosen her up a little more, which she said she is open to, so hopefully I can make that happen soon. We left things on a good note but to be continued. Definitely some potential here, we'll see.
Ran into another chica I took arriba one time and things had gone well. She is bisexual so I have been looking to set something up with a particular ATF for what I know will be an amazing threesome. We were going to try last week but our schedules didn't align. I invited her to drink. She asked about my other friend so I texted her right then and there to see what she was up to. Turned out she was out with a friend at Revolucion and not working so we'll have to meet up some other day. After about 3 beers I told her I wasn't looking to go arriba tonight so I would understand if she would prefer to go find another potential client to possibly make more money with. She said she had actually done really well over the weekend and that she wasn't looking to hunt for more arribas. I enjoyed her company so I told her she could stay if she wanted to which she did for about another 2 hours. Time flew by at an incredible speed. She said we need to get together outside of the club some time so we can have less distractions and do whatever we wanted to at our own pace. She said the meseros get on her nerves. I told her if they got on her nerves, imagine how much they get on mine as a client LOL. A chica friend of hers texted her to ask if she would take her lunch break with her and she said sure. She still hung out for another half hour or so until her friend got tired of waiting and made her way over to my table. She introduced me to her and explained why she was taking so long. Her friend apologized to me for interrupting but I told her it was totally fine and I should be going on my way as well anyway. At this point it was a little past 2 am. We said our goodbyes and made plans to finally go through with the threesome next time. After that I finally headed home.
Hong Kong ladies seem to lose their attractiveness faster than most other places.
My favorita was the bomb a few years ago. After a couple of years, she turned into a MILF. And then she developed a barriga, no more bikinis.
And she can eat. Every meal takes forever because she eats multiple courses.
I don't know how she is going to have a future in the bar.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2977106]Hong Kong ladies seem to lose their attractiveness faster than most other places.
My favorita was the bomb a few years ago. After a couple of years, she turned into a MILF. And then she developed a barriga, no more bikinis.
And she can eat. Every meal takes forever because she eats multiple courses.
I don't know how she is going to have a future in the bar.[/QUOTE]Some I known for years have gained weight, those like Tanya remained as slim and as attractive as ever. One thing they can't do is gain weight but some do and it always doesn't look good on them when they do.
[QUOTE=Dac007;2976592]Update, My friend with no passport was able go get back with his California DL with little issues. They did question why he doesn't have his passport but told him they would have detained much longer if he was or looked Hispanic. They asked him if the address on his DL was current, what were the cross streets of his home, directions to his home from LAX, what high school he attended and the mascot of the school. Finally the system works in favor of a black man! Guess I'm not that much of an idiot![/QUOTE]They probably don't just depend on the drivers license and questions. Every time you go through customs and now go through TSA to get on a plane, you undergo facial recognition and this data is stored. Probably a safe bet that when you go up to the border counter, they already know who you are, if you are citizen, and if they should let you through.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2977106]Hong Kong ladies seem to lose their attractiveness faster than most other places.
My favorita was the bomb a few years ago. After a couple of years, she turned into a MILF. And then she developed a barriga, no more bikinis.
And she can eat. Every meal takes forever because she eats multiple courses.
I don't know how she is going to have a future in the bar.[/QUOTE]Are you surprised that they get ugly and fade fast? All they do is drink tons of alcohol everyday and have their bodies violated and abused by nasty mambas and perverted arabs / indians in every hole all night long 6 days a week. Any normal woman would eventually look like shit after that type of abuse.
It's a sad life.
[QUOTE=Dac007;2976592]Update, I'm coming down there next week. The friends I mentioned live in LA and decided to go this weekend, I wasn't coming, too much football this weekend, didn't want to watch at HK or a tiny hotel TV. They went down Friday afternoon, came back Sat afternoon. My friend with no passport was able go get back with his California DL with little issues. They did question why he doesn't have his passport but told him they would have detained much longer if he was or looked Hispanic. They asked him if the address on his DL was current, what were the cross streets of his home, directions to his home from LAX, what high school he attended and the mascot of the school. Finally the system works in favor of a black man! Guess I'm not that much of an idiot![/QUOTE]No you're still an idiot and the system always works to favor the black man. It's why america's going to shit.
[QUOTE=ABAJoeSmith123;2977237]Are you surprised that they get ugly and fade fast? All they do is drink tons of alcohol everyday and have their bodies violated and abused by nasty mambas and perverted arabs / indians in every hole all night long 6 days a week. Any normal woman would eventually look like shit after that type of abuse..[/QUOTE]Na. That's not it at all. I know girls who fuck more hours a week than hk girls. These are girls fucking their man because I dated one. The amount of sex will only make a girl look better as she burns calories. The beers are fake they are 80% water. It's like 2% alcohol and they are a 3rd the size of a normal beer. They probably drink 400 calories a night of these beers and wine. It shouldn't be enough to fatten them up. The Mexican woman get fat because they like food. There's mostly 2 type of woman over 30. The heavy ones who like food and the thin ones who look at food and know how much calories it is by just glancing at it and won't eat unless starving so they can stay thin. Sure there's the rare exceptions that stay thin no matter what they eat. But Mexican woman don't view obese as ugly the way San Diego woman do. Or Miami beach woman do. Or Manhattan nyc woman do. They don't go to yoga and then spin class and be surrounded by other thin people. I jave had 3 Mexican woman friends over the last 8 years who were so fat that they looked funny. Like one was going to her belly only so she was 50 and looked pregnant. Like all dayblong I would never see another woman who looked like that. She had a prestigious job going into office everyday well dressed with this belly. But she liked her belly she would mention it sometimes how she loves her body. Another one just got fatter and fatter and I tried to tell her it was going to harm her interior health. But she doesn't seem to mind. Another one got so fat I didn't want to bang her anymore. Then she lost a ton of weight and of course got a man right away. A guy friend in the states 50, went to his house, he couldn't answer the door. Finally her opens it he's on a walker moved his bed to the living room with a portable toilet couldn't walk to other rooms in the house he had become like 450 pounds. It was so sad I used to play sports with him as a teenager. He even has a hot girlfriend. But he didt view the weight gain as a major concern I guess. Some people just view obesity the way I would view wrinkles, as in unimportant.
[QUOTE=ABAJoeSmith123;2977238]No you're still an idiot and the system always works to favor the black man. It's why America's going to shit.[/QUOTE]You sound like angry to me. Arabs, Indians, now Blacks. How about Chinos? They are the ones who fuck the HK girls the most. LOL, its their fault.
Seriously though, the sex itself doesn't hurt the women. What hurts them is facing frugal, rude, nasty smelling and drunk Johns. Exactly in that order from highest to lowest in terms of offense.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2977387]You sound like angry to me. Arabs, Indians, now Blacks. How about Chinos? They are the ones who fuck the HK girls the most. LOL, its their fault.
Seriously though, the sex itself doesn't hurt the women. What hurts them is facing frugal, rude, nasty smelling and drunk Johns. Exactly in that order from highest to lowest in terms of offense.[/QUOTE]He's just a racist POS.
[QUOTE=Dac007;2976592]My friend with no passport was able go get back with his California DL with little issues. They did question why he doesn't have his passport but told him they would have detained much longer if he was or looked Hispanic. They asked him if the address on his DL was current, what were the cross streets of his home, directions to his home from LAX, what high school he attended and the mascot of the school. Finally the system works in favor of a black man! Guess I'm not that much of an idiot![/QUOTE]Hey Dac007, did he have any issues entering Mexico?
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2977387]You sound like angry to me. Arabs, Indians, now Blacks. How about Chinos? They are the ones who fuck the HK girls the most. LOL, its their fault.
Seriously though, the sex itself doesn't hurt the women. What hurts them is facing frugal, rude, nasty smelling and drunk Johns. Exactly in that order from highest to lowest in terms of offense.[/QUOTE]Let's state the obvious here. The place is called "Hong Kong" which is a city in ASIA. So of course there will be Asians there. They bring more money there for the establishment than the low life redneck drunkards, perverted indians, and poor ass local mexican hoodlums that frequent the place.
The place has an Asian name and was set up with the idea to attract wealthy Asians. If you insult the chinos, you insult the HK establishment. I don't work for the club and I'm just another white guy so I have no skin in the game, but I'm just saying that the place you love so much (HK) caters to the very group of people (chinos) you're insulting.
[QUOTE=ABAJoeSmith123;2978189]Let's state the obvious here. The place is called "Hong Kong" which is a city in ASIA. So of course there will be Asians there. They bring more money there for the establishment than the low life redneck drunkards, perverted indians, and poor ass local mexican hoodlums that frequent the place.
The place has an Asian name and was set up with the idea to attract wealthy Asians. If you insult the chinos, you insult the HK establishment. I don't work for the club and I'm just another white guy so I have no skin in the game, but I'm just saying that the place you love so much (HK) caters to the very group of people (chinos) you're insulting.[/QUOTE]
Saying the Hong Kong Bar caters to asians is like saying the Chicago Club caters to people from Chicago. It's just a theme, dude. In fact, it used to be a little hole in the wall place before they remodeled way back in 2008.
Went to Hong Kong Club last night right before they started charging a cover at 7 pm. The shaving cream show (my fav) was in full swing on the stage closest to the alley entrance. 2 hot young chicas performing at good show slipping and sliding, eating and licking. One chica's panocha was so tight that I could barely make an entrance with the finger. They really like putting that sweet Luchera on each other. The meseros weren't that pushy but don't ask them for change. Either get it from the bar or a chica. Now it's raining and the streets are sparse.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2978317]Saying the Hong Kong Bar caters to asians is like saying the Chicago Club caters to people from Chicago. It's just a theme, dude. In fact, it used to be a little hole in the wall place before they remodeled way back in 2008.[/QUOTE]Does anyone have the background on how / why HK club got its name?
Hong Kong is not known as a major sex destination (not like Pattaya or Amsterdam) . So I am curious why the name Hong Kong was used for HK club in Tijuana.
Seen her before. She is cool. Treat her well.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBtyCEItxP4&t=872s[/URL]
Says it all here. At some point in the vid says, Chinos are so generous they would pay her $300/30 min. Shishhhh!!!!!! We are being priced out.
[QUOTE=ABAJoeSmith123;2978189]Let's state the obvious here. The place is called "Hong Kong" which is a city in ASIA. So of course there will be Asians there. They bring more money there for the establishment than the low life redneck drunkards, perverted indians, and poor ass local mexican hoodlums that frequent the place.
The place has an Asian name and was set up with the idea to attract wealthy Asians. If you insult the chinos, you insult the HK establishment. I don't work for the club and I'm just another white guy so I have no skin in the game, but I'm just saying that the place you love so much (HK) caters to the very group of people (chinos) you're insulting.[/QUOTE]You ain't White, you Asian boy. I can tell. In any case I did not disrespect Asians, far from it. It was not even in my thought. I was making a joke and making a statement. Why are you so Angry my boy, Chill out. Eat some tacos or some puzzy.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2978317]Saying the Hong Kong Bar caters to asians is like saying the Chicago Club caters to people from Chicago. It's just a theme, dude. In fact, it used to be a little hole in the wall place before they remodeled way back in 2008.[/QUOTE]In reality, HK has long catered to Asian factory managers assigned to Tijuana.
Of course, Asians from SoCal are frequent customers. I've seen lots of Vietnamese there.
This, right here. Thanks mongerhunger for calling the fools out that somehow think the bar name is about the clientele or owners. To be specific the bar was called Hong Kong way back in the day when it was a little tiny place. Had nothing to do with Asian owners LMAO! It was called Hong Kong because it was modeled after the first adult bar in Hong Kong. Back in the days when it was just a tiny place it used to have Asian paper lamps, waiters dressed in Asian outfits, Asian themed decor, etc. Adelitas was based upon the Adelitas women (if you don't know what that is read up about the Mexican revolution) and back in the day was themed around that. La Chavelas for cowboys, etc. Maybe I'm mis remembering but didn't the Chavelas meseros wear cowboy type outfits or was that too long ago? The clubs all have names that are themed around something because back in the days when Tijuana was tiny it made them stand out. The fool who came in here that wants to start throwing slurs out there is really doing it just to gain attention for whatever reasons his life requires that so I would advise to ignore and leave the man behind. Let's get back to actual info about the scene there.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2978317]Saying the Hong Kong Bar caters to asians is like saying the Chicago Club caters to people from Chicago. It's just a theme, dude. In fact, it used to be a little hole in the wall place before they remodeled way back in 2008.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2978395]In reality, HK has long catered to Asian factory managers assigned to Tijuana.
Of course, Asians from SoCal are frequent customers. I've seen lots of Vietnamese there.[/QUOTE]It would be nice if some Asians worked there.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2978820]It would be nice if some Asians worked there.[/QUOTE]There are Asians readily available at massage parlors in USA. No need to cross the border.
And those who want big Asian selection can fly to Asia where service providers are plentiful at prices lower than Tijuana for higher level of service.
Many of the Mexican gals have Asian facial features. So that may be sufficient?
[QUOTE=Rambo1969;2978960]There are Asians readily available at massage parlors in USA......[/QUOTE]Unfortunately not at Hong Kong prices.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2979066]Unfortunately not at Hong Kong prices.[/QUOTE]Ehh, pretty close. $190 out the door for half hour on average for full service and about $230 for one hour.
Keep in mind that you don't have to pay $40 for 30 minutes if you don't have your own room, if you have your own room you're paying even more than that unless it's a Monday or Tuesday and that's with the VIP card which costs $70. You also don't have to spend time going to Mexico, which usually takes hours altogether. No greedy taxi drivers, don't have to spend money on drinks, don't have to tip anybody, don't have to deal with cops robbing and harassing you, no pushy meseros, etc. This is all on top of the average HK girl wanting anywhere from $120-150 nowadays for a 30 minute session, 60 at best.
Anyone seen edith back alley girl?
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2979278]Ehh, pretty close. $190 out the door for half hour on average for full service and about $230 for one hour.
Keep in mind that you don't have to pay $40 for 30 minutes if you don't have your own room, if you have your own room you're paying even more than that unless it's a Monday or Tuesday and that's with the VIP card which costs $70. You also don't have to spend time going to Mexico, which usually takes hours altogether. No greedy taxi drivers, don't have to spend money on drinks, don't have to tip anybody, don't have to deal with cops robbing and harassing you, no pushy meseros, etc. This is all on top of the average HK girl wanting anywhere from $120-150 nowadays for a 30 minute session, 60 at best.[/QUOTE]But, you might have to deal with being arrested with your name and picture in the newspapers if that MP is ever part of a "sting" in any city, USA For me, this makes going to Mexico a bit more tolerable LOL.
[QUOTE=PdSuave;2979314]But, you might have to deal with being arrested with your name and picture in the newspapers if that MP is ever part of a "sting" in any city, USA For me, this makes going to Mexico a bit more tolerable LOL.[/QUOTE]
While I get where you're coming from, you would have to be the unluckiest man in the world in order for that to happen.
Every cop knows what's going on in these places and have bigger problems to deal with. I have buddies and coworkers who have been going to these places damn near 20 years and none of them have ever been arrested. Ocean spa in Kearny Village Rd is the last place I knew of that got busted and they knew weeks ahead of time it was coming and had already redirected all of their clients to their new location which is still running fine a year later. The only people that got in trouble were the owners.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2979293]Anyone seen edith back alley girl?[/QUOTE]Edith at Hotel Mateo's in alley.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2979449]While I get where you're coming from, you would have to be the unluckiest man in the world in order for that to happen.
Every cop knows what's going on in these places and have bigger problems to deal with. I have buddies and coworkers who have been going to these places damn near 20 years and none of them have ever been arrested. Ocean spa in Kearny Village Rd is the last place I knew of that got busted and they knew weeks ahead of time it was coming and had already redirected all of their clients to their new location which is still running fine a year later. The only people that got in trouble were the owners.[/QUOTE]Even Robert Kraft with all his money couldn't sweep it under the rug.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2978373]Seen her before. She is cool. Treat her well.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBtyCEItxP4&t=872s[/URL]
Says it all here. At some point in the vid says, Chinos are so generous they would pay her $300/30 min. Shishhhh!!!!!! We are being priced out.[/QUOTE]What is her name?
If an HK girl had a visa to come to the USA (travel visa, actual visa, etc), would you ever invite them to your home and let them know where you live, LOL? Just curious. I've encountered maybe 3 chicas that actually come to the usa a lot and I knew a girl from Chicago club that finally got a visa to come to the usa and eventually asked to stay at my place but then I suddenly felt very uncomfortable about that. Thoughts on this? Good / bad idea?
[QUOTE=ABAJoeSmith123;2979698]If an HK girl had a visa to come to the USA (travel visa, actual visa, etc), would you ever invite them to your home and let them know where you live, LOL? Just curious. I've encountered maybe 3 chicas that actually come to the usa a lot and I knew a girl from Chicago club that finally got a visa to come to the usa and eventually asked to stay at my place but then I suddenly felt very uncomfortable about that. Thoughts on this? Good / bad idea?[/QUOTE]I never had a problem with a girl visiting. Depends on your situation really. I'm single and live alone. I did have a girl steal some jewelry but it wasn't worth much about $500 and we hooked up the entire time. I see that as payment.
[QUOTE=ABAJoeSmith123;2979698]If an HK girl had a visa to come to the USA (travel visa, actual visa, etc), would you ever invite them to your home and let them know where you live, LOL? Just curious. I've encountered maybe 3 chicas that actually come to the usa a lot and I knew a girl from Chicago club that finally got a visa to come to the usa and eventually asked to stay at my place but then I suddenly felt very uncomfortable about that. Thoughts on this? Good / bad idea?[/QUOTE]What would happen, what is the worst case scenario, and what are the chances that can happen? I say live life man with risks, since it is full of it whether you like it or not. There are millions in the US who are living a timid and stifled life from fear of giving their personal information online, including email. Take my sister who told me she doesn't want to register with Deepseek from fear of having their personal data stolen. LOL. She has been active member in facebook for years. She has a strong feeling about it, something I can't understand. She wouldn't even open a LinkedIn profile.
edit - should have started with this. If you are not good at reading people I would just say stick to the clubs. There are girls who will take advantage of everything they possibly can. I take few risks and I feel I am pretty good at reading girls who I can trust. I am single and there is not much to be taken advantage from me, I just do not like dealing with the drama these hustle games come with.
I know a guy in LOS Angeles who is always letting sex workers come to his pad. Most of the time nothing happens but he does have a few horror stories. One girl found out where he worked while at his pad and took her hustle game to his work. Few other stories of stolen items, credit cards and one time a "pimp" of some kind came to his pad.
My own experiences is I have met a lot of girls outside the club. I go to hotel first for one night where I know nothing gets stolen. If anything happens it is the girl for sure. A couple have successfully passed that test get taken to longer trips with more risk.
As for bringing to my pad, it would have to be someone I have had multiple good experiences with. Never taken Mexico sex worker home. I probably would risk it with 2 of them but they do not have visas. Have taken very few USA sex workers home over the years. For me this just opens a lot of opportunity for headaches I do not want to deal with. Hotels do not cost that much money to me vs the potential crap that can happen. The percentage of ones who can come to my pad is extremely low.
[QUOTE=ABAJoeSmith123;2979698]If an HK girl had a visa to come to the USA (travel visa, actual visa, etc), would you ever invite them to your home and let them know where you live, LOL? Just curious. I've encountered maybe 3 chicas that actually come to the usa a lot and I knew a girl from Chicago club that finally got a visa to come to the usa and eventually asked to stay at my place but then I suddenly felt very uncomfortable about that. Thoughts on this? Good / bad idea?[/QUOTE]
Two weeks ago did my first Monday trip. I like Thursday and Fri / Sat each for different reasons. Have tried Wed but do not like the events I have went to on those days.
The Master Suit with Jacuzzi was $45 with the VIP card on Monday. The talent level was down but HK still had a lot of sexy locas. Many 7 and 8's, a few 9's. No one asked for a wine. Every girl I talked to asked $100 or $120. I think girls definitely know when to ask $100 and when to ask $150.
Two girls stood out but forgot their names. A short petite dark skin girl was constantly going upstairs, solid 9 if petite and short your type. She was a lot of fun. Would definitely never be available on a Friday. Another one was more in the 7-8 range depending on one's taste. Really fun upstairs. Once girls realized I was not there on a budget they seemed to want to hang out with me more. Think most guys there on Monday are there on a budget.
Had to work next day so was at border just before 10. Not sure if I will repeat Monday. The low cost room was nice. I do enjoy how more wild things get on Friday and Sat though. All the girls asking for lower prices to go upstairs may appeal to some.
[QUOTE=Hadez;2979869]Two weeks ago did my first Monday trip. I like Thursday and Fri / Sat each for different reasons. Have tried Wed but do not like the events I have went to on those days.
The Master Suit with Jacuzzi was $45 with the VIP card on Monday. The talent level was down but HK still had a lot of sexy locas. Many 7 and 8's, a few 9's. No one asked for a wine. Every girl I talked to asked $100 or $120. I think girls definitely know when to ask $100 and when to ask $150.
Two girls stood out but forgot their names. A short petite dark skin girl was constantly going upstairs, solid 9 if petite and short your type. She was a lot of fun. Would definitely never be available on a Friday. Another one was more in the 7-8 range depending on one's taste. Really fun upstairs. Once girls realized I was not there on a budget they seemed to want to hang out with me more. Think most guys there on Monday are there on a budget.
Had to work next day so was at border just before 10. Not sure if I will repeat Monday. The low cost room was nice. I do enjoy how more wild things get on Friday and Sat though. All the girls asking for lower prices to go upstairs may appeal to some.[/QUOTE]Tuesday is better than Monday because some chicas who work Friday and Saturday also work Tuesday. The hotel discount is the same as Monday. I hope the chicas don't demand a 25% Trump tariff and increase the price of services. Hehehe!
Sheinbaum will retaliate with 25% tariff on all pussies consumed by gringos.
[QUOTE=StRobert;2980141]Tuesday is better than Monday because some chicas who work Friday and Saturday also work Tuesday. The hotel discount is the same as Monday. I hope the chicas don't demand a 25% Trump tariff and increase the price of services. Hehehe![/QUOTE]
Thinking of visiting in a week or two. Have there been any changes to the club atmosphere / border crossings after the recent US-Mexico political drama? Is everything the same at the crossings?
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;2980641]Thinking of visiting in a week or two. Have there been any changes to the club atmosphere / border crossings after the recent US-Mexico political drama? Is everything the same at the crossings?[/QUOTE]Well the Orange clown has made an enemy out of Mexico and Canada, What do you expect?
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;2980641]Thinking of visiting in a week or two. Have there been any changes to the club atmosphere / border crossings after the recent US-Mexico political drama? Is everything the same at the crossings?[/QUOTE]This week, pedestrian crossing in San Ysidro entrance to Mexico there were about 8 to 10 Mexican officers (normally there are 2) plus X-ray luggage and a sniffing dog. Returning entrance to the USA in San Ysidro everything looked normal. On TV from Tijuana I watched as military planes with the National Guard landed in Tijuana. In the Hong Kong club everything was normal. At night the Tijuana police have a checkpoint at the entrance to the viaduct at the exit from Zona Norte. They check private cars and sometimes taxis. Hong Kong limo is safe they do not check. (There is no 25 % Trump tax on chica services yet )
I've read on here of guys taking the chicas back to their hotel rooms and the girls wanting to smoke. Not sure what they're smoking, but trying to find out if smoking is allowed in any of the rooms at the HK hotels. Have plans to stay in Rizo on my April visit.
[QUOTE=RexRiver;2980946]I've read on here of guys taking the chicas back to their hotel rooms and the girls wanting to smoke. Not sure what they're smoking, but trying to find out if smoking is allowed in any of the rooms at the HK hotels. Have plans to stay in Rizo on my April visit.[/QUOTE]Every room I have stayed in has an ashtray. Don't think they care either way as long as you're a paying customer.
One of my wingmen is really into smoking marijuana with the girls. One time he ended up for 4 girls in his room because they wanted to place to smoke. I was next door and this mofo did not call me!! This has never happened to me but he aggressively looks for girls that smoke. It can be a little challenging getting the weed to the room but he has never herd anything about it when checking out. I can tell you it smells when I walk by.
I have let a few girls smoke weed, it does seem to improve their performance.
[QUOTE=RexRiver;2980946]I've read on here of guys taking the chicas back to their hotel rooms and the girls wanting to smoke. Not sure what they're smoking, but trying to find out if smoking is allowed in any of the rooms at the HK hotels. Have plans to stay in Rizo on my April visit.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;2980641]Thinking of visiting in a week or two. Have there been any changes to the club atmosphere / border crossings after the recent US-Mexico political drama? Is everything the same at the crossings?[/QUOTE]I don't know if it's just the day I went, but I was there last Sunday and I crossed ped east back to the US on foot at about 7 am and there was virtually no line. Totally empty.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2981093]Every room I have stayed in has an ashtray. Don't think they care either way as long as you're a paying customer.[/QUOTE]If someone complains they could kick you out of the room if you refuse to comply, that goes for drugs, weed, cigarettes and loudness. There was a huge fight between a group of Gringos in multiple rooms and a swarm of Security from HK and Tropical in Rizo. It was the rowdiness that started it and then it escalated. After that Rizo had a bunch new and aggressive security personnel for few Months. A girl got sick in my room once, I called the lobby and 5 minutes later 10 security guys from both clubs showed up at my door.
Anyone on following this thread mongered been to fkks clubs in europe?
How does Hong Kong compare in terms of service expected and average looks of girls?
[QUOTE=KombatWombat;2981482]Anyone on following this thread mongered been to fkks clubs in europe?
How does Hong Kong compare in terms of service expected and average looks of girls?[/QUOTE]FKK girls are the hottest providers in the world. My experience with service is that you can expect a greater percentage of HK senoritas to give better service than FKK chicks.
[QUOTE=KombatWombat;2981482]Anyone on following this thread mongered been to fkks clubs in europe?
How does Hong Kong compare in terms of service expected and average looks of girls?[/QUOTE]Hard to compare. Apples and oranges.
FKK is more Eastern European girls. Mostly Romania. If you like white chicks. HK is obviously Latinas. Many from further south.
FKK are larger, more spread out, often suburban, a bit more luxurious. HK is usually a sardine can with loud music. And it's obviously a seedy place in a very seedy part of a seedy town.
FKK you're mostly left alone except girls making eyes. HK has waiters bothering you every 30 seconds.
FKK ironically is cheaper to bang. But you pay more to get there obviously.
I prefer an FKK but it's not practical to go often due to flights so HK will do.
[QUOTE=KombatWombat;2981482]Anyone on following this thread mongered been to fkks clubs in europe?
How does Hong Kong compare in terms of service expected and average looks of girls?[/QUOTE]Was in Salzburg, Austria a couple years ago and visited FKK Mystic. You can search and find my report on here. 75 Euros to access the club, include a buffet, beer and soft drinks. Like other mentioned, mostly Romanian girls, pretty, most spoke English. Girls were friendly and available for 80 Euros for the hour, additional 50 for BBBJCIM and 80 more for Greek. Not al offered Greek, most pushed for CIM. Went on a Saturday night and was told there were 80 girls there, maybe 15 guys. Was it worth it. Hell yeah! Wish I could go back without the SO.
FYI, rates were 2 years ago and $1.05 would get you 1 Euro. Mystic also had a Laufhaus(brothel) adjacent to the club. I didnt partake. I did however go to a laufhaus in the city. Basically a run down hotel. Had a bar that I didnt visit. Went straight to the girls room and knocked and was let in. Turkish girl, not my type, very disappointing experience.
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I was at ped East a few weeks ago. Basically zero wait in the non sentri lines. Shocking. It was super early tho. Maybe 7 am.
Anyone else see super short waits to cross since trump came in?
[QUOTE=RexRiver;2981883]Was in Salzburg, Austria a couple years ago and visited FKK Mystic. You can search and find my report on here. 75 Euros to access the club, include a buffet, beer and soft drinks. Like other mentioned, mostly Romanian girls, pretty, most spoke English. Girls were friendly and available for 80 Euros for the hour, additional 50 for BBBJCIM and 80 more for Greek. Not al offered Greek, most pushed for CIM. Went on a Saturday night and was told there were 80 girls there, maybe 15 guys. Was it worth it. Hell yeah! Wish I could go back without the SO.
FYI, rates were 2 years ago and $1.05 would get you 1 Euro. Mystic also had a Laufhaus(brothel) adjacent to the club. I didnt partake. I did however go to a laufhaus in the city. Basically a run down hotel. Had a bar that I didnt visit. Went straight to the girls room and knocked and was let in. Turkish girl, not my type, very disappointing experience.[/QUOTE]What is the demographic situation of the clientele in the FKK's, Mostly European Whites, or mixed? As in additional to whites are there Asians, Blacks, Arabs, Indians, etc. Like we have in Tijuana?
[QUOTE=RexRiver;2981883]Was in Salzburg, Austria a couple years ago and visited FKK Mystic. Was it worth it. Hell yeah! Wish I could go back without the SO.[/QUOTE]I should have stated in my earlier post that I had already visited a handful of FKK clubs.
Funnily enough Mystik was one of the ones I visited. Highly rated but not super well known club. Didn't realise it had a laufhaus next to it.
Its Tijuana I have not been to but am contemplating on doing so.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2982695]What is the demographic situation of the clientele in the FKK's, Mostly European Whites, or mixed? As in additional to whites are there Asians, Blacks, Arabs, Indians, etc. Like we have in Tijuana?[/QUOTE]Very mixed. Didn't see any black. But tons of European, a few American, and definitely some Asian and south Asian. Some Arab too.
The ones I went to were in Frankfurt. Keeping in mind, Frankfurt is a massive airline hub like Atlanta. So it's easy for people to take a long layover.
[QUOTE=KombatWombat;2983012]I should have stated in my earlier post that I had already visited a handful of FKK clubs.
Funnily enough Mystik was one of the ones I visited. Highly rated but not super well known club. Didn't realise it had a laufhaus next to it.
Its Tijuana I have not been to but am contemplating on doing so.[/QUOTE]Temper your expectations. Tijuana is not close to the FKK's.
[QUOTE=KombatWombat;2983012]I should have stated in my earlier post that I had already visited a handful of FKK clubs.
Funnily enough Mystik was one of the ones I visited. Highly rated but not super well known club. Didn't realise it had a laufhaus next to it.
Its Tijuana I have not been to but am contemplating on doing so.[/QUOTE]Adjust your expectation. ZN in Tijuana is a slum compared to where you been in Germany. Police, guns, armored cars, beggars, druggies, stray dogs, stray kids, sewage stench, fumes, street vendors, immigration lines. Other than that it is heaven.
[QUOTE=Rexine;2983138]Temper your expectations. Tijuana is not close to the FKK's.[/QUOTE]Apples and oranges. There's too much overthinking going on. If you're attracted to Mexican girls, then visit. If you're not, then don't. Yes, it's grimy in Zona Norte but it's not right to generalize that to the entire city of Tijuana. Doing so is as idiotic as thinking Tepito is a reflection of Mexico City as a whole. On a final note, I'll take the food in Mexico every day of the week over Germany or Austria.
[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;2983167]Apples and oranges. There's too much overthinking going on. If you're attracted to Mexican girls, then visit. If you're not, then don't. Yes, it's grimy in Zona Norte but it's not right to generalize that to the entire city of Tijuana. Doing so is as idiotic as thinking Tepito is a reflection of Mexico City as a whole. On a final note, I'll take the food in Mexico every day of the week over Germany or Austria.[/QUOTE]There is a big difference in transportation costs. I was in Munich in December and then transferred to another city in Europe (not for sex but other purposes). Non stop San Diego to Munich round trip Lufthansa cost me $1800 and extra $75 luggage. My cost here travel to Hong Kong club is $5 trolley round trip when I park in trolley parking and $6 Hong Kong limo round trip total $11. Plus add hotel prices in Europe $100 and up / night plus restaurants it comes out expensive. IMO, FKK is good for local Germans, and for neighboring countries like France, Luxembourg (where prostitution is illegal) etc. That is why Germans are always happy because almost every city in Germany has brothels and sex clubs! (similar to Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland, Austria) If you are looking for chica that looks European, there are some in Hong Kong too. In Germany they also have problems, for example some crazy people drive their cars into a crowd of people on the street (a week ago in Munich). When it comes to sex I vote for Tijuana because it's closer.
Europe would be great if already living there and can use the trains and low cost Euro airlines. I like to go to Europe and Asia but don't want to go into debt for it when have Monterrey MEX in my backyard (where I going tomorrow for 6 days! And Tijuana and CR closer and quicker to amortize the sunk travel costs.
Only country I would want to live long term is Spain since familiar with the language but can get struggle around with other languages short term for FKK experiences. .
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2983161]Adjust your expectation. ZN in Tijuana is a slum compared to where you been in Germany. Police, guns, armored cars, beggars, druggies, stray dogs, stray kids, sewage stench, fumes, street vendors, immigration lines. Other than that it is heaven.[/QUOTE]Why not just have the best of both worlds, book a hotel in San Diego, spend the day absorbing the picture perfect postcard worthy beaches, parks and other SD tourist spots downtown.
Then come night time, live like a high roller but at the fraction of the price in Tijuana. Limo pickup from the border directly shuttles you to the Hong Kong Gentleman's Club. This bypasses all the bad scenery that Zenduka is pointing out. Once in club you can get Las Vegas style services at fraction of cost. Invite the 2 girls doing the lesbian foam show for drinks. Because you already know a threesome with these 2 girls are open to girl on girl action for the right price. Get a bottle and private VIP room where you can get to know these girls (or even fuck in VIP room), or better yet get a luxury Jacuzzi Room with a stripper pole and minibar in Hotel Cascadas next door.
Below is copied and pasted from my visit to Mystic on the Austrian / German border outside of Salzburg. Please note that it is my understanding that Mystic had closed for a while and re-opened as a "swingers club. " This was my only experience in an FKK / Sauna Club and other FKK will obviously be different. Regarding the girls, most were Romania and eastern Euroean. I did do a session with a girl from Moldavia. There were also a couple of Black girls there, one who I seriously considered as she had the body type I lover.
"All of the girls I saw were Pretty, dark complexed Romania girls with just a touch of exotic look to them!
I was in Salzburg, Asustria for a few days on holiday with the wife. Circumstances which I would rather not discuss allowed me 3 nights to myself. I had done some research on another board about the hobbying opportunities there and in Munich. Really didn't expect anything to happen as we were traveling with another couple.
My first night to myself, I chose to meet an "escort" at her location. I arranged a taxi to take me there and was surprised that it was a laufhaus (in Germany, literally *house). I went to the room number that I was given and was met by a short, somewhat thick Romanian woman. She had a very "Roma / Gypsy" look to her. In any other circumstances, I would not choose this girl. But since I was already there, I went through. Had a decent time, 100 + an additional 20 for BBBJ. Just a couple positions, mish, CG and doggy to finish. Paid for the hour, but was in and out in about 30. This is my only experience in a laufhaus, but I was not impressed. Think a 2 star hotel with tired room, mirrors all around and tiny shower with trash receptacle overflowing with the tools of our hobby! The club was called Vesuvius.
The next day I rented a car with the intention of driving out to FKK Mystic on the outskirts of the city near the Germany border. The club is about a 20 minute drive, but a bit hard to find. You have to get off of the main highway and eventually find a small, one way, unpaved road through the forest. I didn't realize, but you can also have a taxi drop you off at the service pavilion on the highway and climb the stairs to the club. It can be seen from the highway. At this location there is the sauna club Mystic and a laufhaus for those who just want a quick relief.
My research on the club did not leave me with the impression that it would be very nice. I was pleasantly surprised to be very pleased with the club. Upon arrival, I was greeted at the front desk and asked if it was my first time there. She explained that there was an 85 (A Euro at the time + $1. 03 US) cover charge that included wine, beer and soft drinks and all the food you want off of the buffet. She had a girl, Loren show me around after changing. You are give a nice robe, towel and bath slippers that you change into. You leave everything else in the locker and store any valuables in the safe within. One you had a session with a girl, you both go back to settle up. The club consists of several rooms. The locker room has an adjourning shower area, dining room with a long table that has maybe 18 chairs and 2 food stations, one with salads and the other main entree. Food is typical German fare, lots of veggies, potatoes and pork. Don't expect fancy cuisine! At most times there were a few girls and a few guys at the table eating. It is also a decent spot to watch the girls as they go between the men's locker room, front desk and the main lounge area. There are also some televisions in here and were tuned to the World Cup broadcast.
The main lounge was spacious and had a bar where you can get the wine, beer or soft drinks. Distilled spirits are available, but you would need to purchase a full bottle, like for 150. There is a cinema (kino) room with 3 rows of beds where you can watch the porn videos they show. Very dated videos of older participants. Girls are willing to join you in here for a BJ and sex. Also they have an area with a small lounge and sauna with shower, another room with a steam bath and tanning bed (for he girls? A smoking room, an outside area and lastly a massage room with about 5 beds. When I was there a few of the guys were sleeping in the massage room.
About the girls in general. Most seem to be from Eastern Europe, predominantly Romania. I had 5 different girls while there, 4 Romanian and 1 from Moldavia. Darker complexion, like a tan, dark eyes and hair and pretty. All spoke decent English. There is a range of body types with most having nice hourglass figures, a few thicker and a few slender. Most were see breast or better and looked to be between the ages of 22-30. Only a guess. No older broads. The girls are naked in the club, with maybe a garter belt or stockings. You get a really good idea of what you getting! Rates seem to be standard; 70 for minimum will get you covered CFS, multiple positions for 30 minutes and CBJ, add 30 for BBBJ and an additional 50 for CIM. They really push the CIM and there are spittoons nearby for the deposit. All 5 girls I saw gave excellent BBBJ. Anal is available for 100 extra on top of any others. Seems they allow DATY, but not FIV. Do not expect GFE!
My first day there was a Saturday and was told there we 38 girls working. I didn't count, but sounds about right. About 1/3 are laying around in the main lounge, looks like they were resting or sleeping. Another 1/3 we're sitting around closer to the area of the bar, on stools or couches. I guess the other might have been with guys in the rooms are talking with guys in the lounge. The girls are friendly and will approach you to solicit and will go away if asked. There didn't seem to be that many guys there, maybe 15, mostly older (I'm 68, so older than me) and seemed to be regulars.
My first girl was Loren, a pretty blonde with dark roots, be cup, shaved, slim waste and nice hips and ass. I went all in with her, went to a private room 200 CFS, dildo play in her pussy and ass, DATY (I know, probably had a few cocks in her already, but still something I really like), then Greek with dildo in her pussy. Then moved to doggy on the side of the bed until I finished. Very vocal and lots of fun.
Took a little break and had a bite to eat. Was approached by chick from Moldavia, don't remember her name. Very proud, bigger tits, large areolas with prominent nips. She wanted to show me the porn cinema room where they also do massages. She wanted to give me a massage, but told her I wasn't interested. She asked if I wanted a BJ. Told her if we did BBBJ and in the cinema room, I was ready. Really good BBBJ, fucking, DATY, tit play, occasionally I guy or gal would come in to watch! I'm a fucking porn star. LOL!
Last girl was another Romanian. My perfect type, skinny, very pretty, glasses, small A's with tiny nips, looked to by maybe 20 yo. Same activity as the previous one in the cinema.
So a total of 485,4 hours and 3 sessions. Not too bad given the quality of the girls. To put into perspective, I've traveled to Club Hong Kong in Tijuana 3 times. While there is no cover charge, it can get very crowded in the evening. Usually you will pay 80-100 US for 30 minutes. If you have a room at one of HK facilities, it won't cost any extra or you can rent a room for the 30 minutes. You can negotiate for a BBBJ, but not always available. So, a little more at the FKK, but in my opinion, the quality and selection is better.
I checked out of the place, but didn't get enough. Came back on Sunday night, the next day and was told there were 27 girls working. Again not be guys around. Had bit to eat, then went into the lounge and was approached by a Romania girl, again, don't recall a name. Over to the Cinema room for a BBBJ, CFS, multiple positions and went the extra 50 for CIM. Finished there and then she went over to the spittoon to make the deposit. Back to the dining area to relax and recharge. Struck up a conversation with a local, had a bit to eat, then went back to the lounge area again. I had had my eye on another very pretty, slender gal with nice A cups and beautiful hair. No sooner than I sit down and she, Stephanie, comes over. Didn't take me long and we're off to a private room. I know I'm not going to cum again so soon, so CIM was not a option although she tried to upsell. I did go for BBBJ, which was very good and the cycled into several positions including K9 and standing MISH on the side of the bed. She really wanted me to CIM, so she went back to the BBBJ again and tried like a trooper, but it wasn't happening. ".
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2983119]Very mixed. Didn't see any black. But tons of European, a few American, and definitely some Asian and south Asian. Some Arab too.
The ones I went to were in Frankfurt. Keeping in mind, Frankfurt is a massive airline hub like Atlanta. So it's easy for people to take a long layover.[/QUOTE]
Rexriver.
Excellent report on FKK Mystic AKA FKK Babylon near Salzburg with comparison to Hong Kong in Tijuana. Babylon's line up looks very good, looks better than Hong Kong, with quite a few girls I would spend time and money on. Salzburg is 150 miles from Vienna, too far for my trip.
However, based on Babylon's line up, I would try FKK GoldenTime in Vienna. 95 E entry plus 100 E for 30 min (100430) is kind of steep, may be worth it if one can spend 8 to 10 hours just lounge, eat, drink, flirt and pop multiple girls. Wonder how much girls' drinks would cost in GoldenTime?
Surprise, a report lists 2 dozens Asian Laufhause in Vienna with some decent-looking girls, costs 30-50 E for 30 min which is very low. Is this current pricings and is even realistic? This pic looks very good. But in real life, do girls look any where as young and hot?
[URL]https://www.studioa25.wien/[/URL]
Escorts have just too many baits and switches and big waste of time. I prefer WYSIWYG in clubs or Laufhaus.
[QUOTE=RexRiver;2983657]Below is copied and pasted from my visit to Mystic on the Austrian / German border outside of Salzburg. Please note that it is my understanding that Mystic had closed for a while and re-opened as a "swingers club. " This was my only experience in an FKK / Sauna Club and other FKK will obviously be different. Regarding the girls, most were Romania and eastern Euroean. I did do a session with a girl from Moldavia. There were also a couple of Black girls there, one who I seriously considered as she had the body type I lover.
"All of the girls I saw were Pretty, dark complexed Romania girls with just a touch of exotic look to them!
I was in Salzburg, Asustria for a few days on holiday with the wife. Circumstances which I would rather not discuss allowed me 3 nights to myself. I had done some research on another board about the hobbying opportunities there and in Munich. Really didn't expect anything to happen as we were traveling with another couple.
My first night to myself, I chose to meet an "escort" at her location. I arranged a taxi to take me there and was surprised that it was a laufhaus (in Germany, literally *house). I went to the room number that I was given and was met by a short, somewhat thick Romanian woman. She had a very "Roma / Gypsy" look to her. In any other circumstances, I would not choose this girl. But since I was already there, I went through. Had a decent time, 100 + an additional 20 for BBBJ. Just a couple positions, mish, CG and doggy to finish. Paid for the hour, but was in and out in about 30. This is my only experience in a laufhaus, but I was not impressed. Think a 2 star hotel with tired room, mirrors all around and tiny shower with trash receptacle overflowing with the tools of our hobby! The club was called Vesuvius.
The next day I rented a car with the intention of driving out to FKK Mystic on the outskirts of the city near the Germany border. The club is about a 20 minute drive, but a bit hard to find. You have to get off of the main highway and eventually find a small, one way, unpaved road through the forest. I didn't realize, but you can also have a taxi drop you off at the service pavilion on the highway and climb the stairs to the club. It can be seen from the highway. At this location there is the sauna club Mystic and a laufhaus for those who just want a quick relief.
My research on the club did not leave me with the impression that it would be very nice. I was pleasantly surprised to be very pleased with the club. Upon arrival, I was greeted at the front desk and asked if it was my first time there. She explained that there was an 85 (A Euro at the time + $1. 03 US) cover charge that included wine, beer and soft drinks and all the food you want off of the buffet. She had a girl, Loren show me around after changing. You are give a nice robe, towel and bath slippers that you change into. You leave everything else in the locker and store any valuables in the safe within. One you had a session with a girl, you both go back to settle up. The club consists of several rooms. The locker room has an adjourning shower area, dining room with a long table that has maybe 18 chairs and 2 food stations, one with salads and the other main entree. Food is typical German fare, lots of veggies, potatoes and pork. Don't expect fancy cuisine! At most times there were a few girls and a few guys at the table eating. It is also a decent spot to watch the girls as they go between the men's locker room, front desk and the main lounge area. There are also some televisions in here and were tuned to the World Cup broadcast.
The main lounge was spacious and had a bar where you can get the wine, beer or soft drinks. Distilled spirits are available, but you would need to purchase a full bottle, like for 150. There is a cinema (kino) room with 3 rows of beds where you can watch the porn videos they show. Very dated videos of older participants. Girls are willing to join you in here for a BJ and sex. Also they have an area with a small lounge and sauna with shower, another room with a steam bath and tanning bed (for he girls? A smoking room, an outside area and lastly a massage room with about 5 beds. When I was there a few of the guys were sleeping in the massage room.
About the girls in general. Most seem to be from Eastern Europe, predominantly Romania. I had 5 different girls while there, 4 Romanian and 1 from Moldavia. Darker complexion, like a tan, dark eyes and hair and pretty. All spoke decent English. There is a range of body types with most having nice hourglass figures, a few thicker and a few slender. Most were see breast or better and looked to be between the ages of 22-30. Only a guess. No older broads. The girls are naked in the club, with maybe a garter belt or stockings. You get a really good idea of what you getting! Rates seem to be standard; 70 for minimum will get you covered CFS, multiple positions for 30 minutes and CBJ, add 30 for BBBJ and an additional 50 for CIM. They really push the CIM and there are spittoons nearby for the deposit. All 5 girls I saw gave excellent BBBJ. Anal is available for 100 extra on top of any others. Seems they allow DATY, but not FIV. Do not expect GFE!
My first day there was a Saturday and was told there we 38 girls working. I didn't count, but sounds about right. About 1/3 are laying around in the main lounge, looks like they were resting or sleeping. Another 1/3 we're sitting around closer to the area of the bar, on stools or couches. I guess the other might have been with guys in the rooms are talking with guys in the lounge. The girls are friendly and will approach you to solicit and will go away if asked. There didn't seem to be that many guys there, maybe 15, mostly older (I'm 68, so older than me) and seemed to be regulars.
My first girl was Loren, a pretty blonde with dark roots, be cup, shaved, slim waste and nice hips and ass. I went all in with her, went to a private room 200 CFS, dildo play in her pussy and ass, DATY (I know, probably had a few cocks in her already, but still something I really like), then Greek with dildo in her pussy. Then moved to doggy on the side of the bed until I finished. Very vocal and lots of fun.
Took a little break and had a bite to eat. Was approached by chick from Moldavia, don't remember her name. Very proud, bigger tits, large areolas with prominent nips. She wanted to show me the porn cinema room where they also do massages. She wanted to give me a massage, but told her I wasn't interested. She asked if I wanted a BJ. Told her if we did BBBJ and in the cinema room, I was ready. Really good BBBJ, fucking, DATY, tit play, occasionally I guy or gal would come in to watch! I'm a fucking porn star. LOL!
Last girl was another Romanian. My perfect type, skinny, very pretty, glasses, small A's with tiny nips, looked to by maybe 20 yo. Same activity as the previous one in the cinema.
So a total of 485,4 hours and 3 sessions. Not too bad given the quality of the girls. To put into perspective, I've traveled to Club Hong Kong in Tijuana 3 times. While there is no cover charge, it can get very crowded in the evening. Usually you will pay 80-100 US for 30 minutes. If you have a room at one of HK facilities, it won't cost any extra or you can rent a room for the 30 minutes. You can negotiate for a BBBJ, but not always available. So, a little more at the FKK, but in my opinion, the quality and selection is better.
I checked out of the place, but didn't get enough. Came back on Sunday night, the next day and was told there were 27 girls working. Again not be guys around. Had bit to eat, then went into the lounge and was approached by a Romania girl, again, don't recall a name. Over to the Cinema room for a BBBJ, CFS, multiple positions and went the extra 50 for CIM. Finished there and then she went over to the spittoon to make the deposit. Back to the dining area to relax and recharge. Struck up a conversation with a local, had a bit to eat, then went back to the lounge area again. I had had my eye on another very pretty, slender gal with nice A cups and beautiful hair. No sooner than I sit down and she, Stephanie, comes over. Didn't take me long and we're off to a private room. I know I'm not going to cum again so soon, so CIM was not a option although she tried to upsell. I did go for BBBJ, which was very good and the cycled into several positions including K9 and standing MISH on the side of the bed. She really wanted me to CIM, so she went back to the BBBJ again and tried like a trooper, but it wasn't happening. ".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=StRobert;2983302]There is a big difference in transportation costs. I was in Munich in December and then transferred to another city in Europe (not for sex but other purposes). Non stop San Diego to Munich round trip Lufthansa cost me $1800 and extra $75 luggage. My cost here travel to Hong Kong club is $5 trolley round trip when I park in trolley parking and $6 Hong Kong limo round trip total $11. Plus add hotel prices in Europe $100 and up / night plus restaurants it comes out expensive. IMO, FKK is good for local Germans, and for neighboring countries like France, Luxembourg (where prostitution is illegal) etc. That is why Germans are always happy because almost every city in Germany has brothels and sex clubs! (similar to Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland, Austria) If you are looking for chica that looks European, there are some in Hong Kong too. In Germany they also have problems, for example some crazy people drive their cars into a crowd of people on the street (a week ago in Munich). When it comes to sex I vote for Tijuana because it's closer.[/QUOTE]Not a whole lot of new reviews and photos of hk these days. I suspect HK is so well known trhough word of mouth and advertised through social media, its just easier to get intel direct from friend and check out the photos on instagram or photogallery ok hktijuana website. That being said I do enjoy efforts at keeping this forumalive of tijuana vs X. FKK seems too apples va oranges. What about a more apples to apples comparison. Like maybe tijuana vs mexico city? Or tijuana vs Bogota? Anyone has experience in both to do pros and cons comparison?
[QUOTE=RexRiver;2983657]
About the girls in general. Most seem to be from Eastern Europe, predominantly Romania. I had 5 different girls while there, 4 Romanian and 1 from Moldavia. Darker complexion, like a tan, dark eyes and hair and pretty. All spoke decent English. There is a range of body types with most having nice hourglass figures, a few thicker and a few slender. Most were see breast or better and looked to be between the ages of 22-30. Only a guess. No older broads. The girls are naked in the club, with maybe a garter belt or stockings. You get a really good idea of what you getting! Rates seem to be standard; 70 for minimum will get you covered CFS, multiple positions for 30 minutes and CBJ, add 30 for BBBJ and an additional 50 for CIM. They really push the CIM and there are spittoons nearby for the deposit. All 5 girls I saw gave excellent BBBJ. Anal is available for 100 extra on top of any others. Seems they allow DATY, but not FIV. Do not expect GFE!
[/QUOTE]"Do not expect GFE!" -- This is why I don't think I'd like it, though I've never been to an FKK. There are two types of people in the world, rule followers and rule breakers. I'm definitely a rule breaker.
German's are known for their love of rules and order. Everything is very nice and pristine there, but at the end of the day, there is a rule telling you what you can and can't do. Tijuana is the opposite: it's dirty, corrupt, lawless at times, like the wild-west, in a sense. The lack of rules and order is what makes it great. On any given night anything can happen with any girl. You can literally get away with murder there (not that I would try! I don't go to Tijuana to follow the rules, but to make sure I break every one of them.
There are a lot of girls in Tijuana that mix business and pleasure. Many of the girls there have a kind of "live for the day" attitude. They aren't there planning their 401k contributions for their retirement. There is not that much of a barrier separating prostitutes from normal women. It's very easy to cross this barrier. This is what I love about Tijuana. You don't really have to negotiate anything there, you just do what you want. And in many cases, pay what you want. The upselling of services at these FKKs already seems like a drag. I don't want to be handed some menu with the price list like I'm ordering dinner. I'll wager the sex is more robotic there too, and you will never get past just being a client with these girls. If that's your cup of tea, fine. But for me, no thanks.
PS: One good aspect of FKKs is that they walk around naked. Imaging if they did this at HK!
What ever happened to heels? Last time I was in HK, literally half the women there had these black boots on (a couple red ones two). They all think it's so cool to have these things, so they all copy each other. Women are such slaves to trends and competing with other women that they sometimes even go out of their way to look bad (remember high waisted shorts! Not that these boots actually look bad, but still.
I'm a legs man. I like to see a nice pair of legs. Not covered to the mid thigh with some thick boots. Breasts, I don't care about. In fact, I prefer smaller. But please, show some leg, for god sake.
Remember the golden rule, ladies: "less is more, less is more".
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2983736]What ever happened to heels? Last time I was in HK, literally half the women there had these black boots on (a couple red ones two). They all think it's so cool to have these things, so they all copy each other. Women are such slaves to trends and competing with other women that they sometimes even go out of their way to look bad (remember high waisted shorts! Not that these boots actually look bad, but still.
I'm a legs man. I like to see a nice pair of legs. Not covered to the mid thigh with some thick boots. Breasts, I don't care about. In fact, I prefer smaller. But please, show some leg, for god sake.
Remember the golden rule, ladies: "less is more, less is more".[/QUOTE]Its cold. Its really cold. Wait a Month.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2983732]"Do not expect GFE!" -- This is why I don't think I'd like it, though I've never been to an FKK. There are two types of people in the world, rule followers and rule breakers. I'm definitely a rule breaker.
German's are known for their love of rules and order. Everything is very nice and pristine there, but at the end of the day, there is a rule telling you what you can and can't do. Tijuana is the opposite: it's dirty, corrupt, lawless at times, like the wild-west, in a sense. The lack of rules and order is what makes it great. On any given night anything can happen with any girl. You can literally get away with murder there (not that I would try! I don't go to Tijuana to follow the rules, but to make sure I break every one of them.
There are a lot of girls in Tijuana that mix business and pleasure. Many of the girls there have a kind of "live for the day" attitude. They aren't there planning their 401k contributions for their retirement. There is not that much of a barrier separating prostitutes from normal women. It's very easy to cross this barrier. This is what I love about Tijuana. You don't really have to negotiate anything there, you just do what you want. And in many cases, pay what you want. The upselling of services at these FKKs already seems like a drag. I don't want to be handed some menu with the price list like I'm ordering dinner. I'll wager the sex is more robotic there too, and you will never get past just being a client with these girls. If that's your cup of tea, fine. But for me, no thanks.
[/QUOTE]Where is the like button?
I could never put my finger on why I love Tijuana. You bring up some great points.
Its the wild wild west.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2983732]"Do not expect GFE!" -- This is why I don't think I'd like it, though I've never been to an FKK. There are two types of people in the world, rule followers and rule breakers. I'm definitely a rule breaker.
German's are known for their love of rules and order. Everything is very nice and pristine there, but at the end of the day, there is a rule telling you what you can and can't do. Tijuana is the opposite: it's dirty, corrupt, lawless at times, like the wild-west, in a sense. The lack of rules and order is what makes it great. On any given night anything can happen with any girl. You can literally get away with murder there (not that I would try! I don't go to Tijuana to follow the rules, but to make sure I break every one of them.
There are a lot of girls in Tijuana that mix business and pleasure. Many of the girls there have a kind of "live for the day" attitude. They aren't there planning their 401k contributions for their retirement. There is not that much of a barrier separating prostitutes from normal women. It's very easy to cross this barrier. This is what I love about Tijuana. You don't really have to negotiate anything there, you just do what you want. And in many cases, pay what you want. The upselling of services at these FKKs already seems like a drag. I don't want to be handed some menu with the price list like I'm ordering dinner. I'll wager the sex is more robotic there too, and you will never get past just being a client with these girls. If that's your cup of tea, fine. But for me, no thanks.
PS: One good aspect of FKKs is that they walk around naked. Imaging if they did this at HK![/QUOTE]Tijuana is as raw as nature is, its dirty just like the sex. Man made Law&Order, you leave it at the border, feel the ease that engulfs you as you walk through immigration into Tijuana. You follow the natural human decency, common sense and horny as FK!
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2983742]Tijuana is as raw as nature is, its dirty just like the sex. Man made Law&Order, you leave it at the border, feel the ease that engulfs you as you walk through immigration into Tijuana. You follow the natural human decency, common sense and horny as FK![/QUOTE]I used to not like that about Tijuana. I wanted it to be more like nicer parts of Mexico. I've come around to appreciating it. You just have to appreciate it for what it is. Like you can watch trashy reality tv and enjoy it as long as you're not lamenting the fact it's not trying to win academy awards and it's just what it is. It's trash and it's enjoyable trash. That's Tijuana. It's dirty. The land zoning sucks so every street looks like a jigsaw puzzle. You have nice restaurants next to a guy with no legs and a sign asking for help. Prostitution up the street from revoluciķand. Amazing tacos. Cheap beer. Corrupt cops. It's all just tossed into a blender and poured into the streets and it's disgusting and sad and beautiful.
I get the allure of Tijuana and the "live in the moment" atmosphere. But, a trip to an FKK in Germany / Austria should be a bucket list item for all guys on here. You don't go the an FKK to experience the "neighborhood. " Many of those are not necessarily that great, kind of away from the tourist areas. And, you pay an admission fee to get in and I'm not sure if there is a limit on how long you can stay. Just hang out in your robe, eat Germany cuisine (no thanks! Drink beer and wine, and watch beautiful naked girls. If you want to partake, then fuck as many as you want for a reasonable fee, extras can be negotiated. Leave the club, and pay the fee to enter again.
I for one do not go to these places to strike up a conversation with a girl that doesn't speak English, which is most of the ladies in Tijuana, Germany is somewhat better. I gothere to fuck beautiful women. I have a type that I like, and they were more readily available at the FKK I visited. I didn't go to Europe to visit an FKK, I was there and circumstances permitted, so I seized the moment.
FYI, I have plans to be in Tijuana and work HK during the first week in April. It's my go to place and I can still find gems in HK. Not knocking either experience, they both have there attractions.
[QUOTE=RexRiver;2984124]I get the allure of Tijuana and the "live in the moment" atmosphere. But, a trip to an FKK in Germany / Austria should be a bucket list item for all guys on here. You don't go the an FKK to experience the "neighborhood. " Many of those are not necessarily that great, kind of away from the tourist areas. And, you pay an admission fee to get in and I'm not sure if there is a limit on how long you can stay. Just hang out in your robe, eat Germany cuisine (no thanks! Drink beer and wine, and watch beautiful naked girls. If you want to partake, then fuck as many as you want for a reasonable fee, extras can be negotiated. Leave the club, and pay the fee to enter again.
I for one do not go to these places to strike up a conversation with a girl that doesn't speak English, which is most of the ladies in Tijuana, Germany is somewhat better. I gothere to fuck beautiful women. I have a type that I like, and they were more readily available at the FKK I visited. I didn't go to Europe to visit an FKK, I was there and circumstances permitted, so I seized the moment.
FYI, I have plans to be in Tijuana and work HK during the first week in April. It's my go to place and I can still find gems in HK. Not knocking either experience, they both have there attractions.[/QUOTE]I think that the main point is that you should visit FKK's as an extra to your europe trip, and that's fine, but it's not the main reason to make the trip because it's just so much more expensive than going to Tijuana or even Colombia.
The point of everyone here is that it is cheaper to take a trip to Tijuana and they don't see a way higher benefit to go to europe based on the cost difference.
Also, if you frequent the girls in Tijuana and develop a more of a relationship, even if it's still transactional, you can start to get more of a GFE experience out of them, even take them on trip with you for a reasonable price, that's out of the question with FKK girls.
[QUOTE=Jim0129;2984222]I think that the main point is that you should visit FKK's as an extra to your europe trip, and that's fine, but it's not the main reason to make the trip because it's just so much more expensive than going to Tijuana or even Colombia. The point of everyone here is that it is cheaper to take a trip to Tijuana and they don't see a way higher benefit to go to europe based on the cost difference. Also, if you frequent the girls in Tijuana and develop a more of a relationship, even if it's still transactional, you can start to get more of a GFE experience out of them, even take them on trip with you for a reasonable price, that's out of the question with FKK girls.[/QUOTE]It is the main reason to go if the FKK sauna club scene is your thing. After Brazil I find Germany to be my favorite place to monger. I'm not particularly looking for the GFE as I have more of a preference for the PSE more often than not. Many times though I will find a girl where we click and it can turn more towards the GFE. I love anal sex with the white girls, and anal is quite readily on the menu with many girls at the FKKs. And I have the coin to spend freely at the FKKs to get what I want. So I don't care about Tijuana being cheaper. And it's also a dump! I much prefer the "big city sophistication" of a Sao Paulo to the "dirty wild west" of Tijuana (but will and have stepped on both sides of that line). I do like the Latinas too though, and after several days of fucking the European white girls I start longing for a little bit more choice in "colors". This is one of the big reasons why I have Brazil ahead of Germany. More diversity. Oh, is that a bad word now LOL! But I love them both Brazil and Germany! Last few times I was in Brazil it was absolutely Heaven on earth fucking blue-eyed blonde Brasileiras of German descent LOL! I'm heading to Brazil for a month soon. And later this year will spend a month "bumming" around Germany (pun intended). Well doggy! But at the end of the day, like someone else here said, every man should experience the FKK clubs of Germany at least once. I say the same thing about the termas of Rio and the clinicas and nightclubs of Sao Paulo. And then just stick to what you personally enjoy the most. Choose what makes you happy. But experience as much as possible when it comes to this hobby so that you can truly know what happiness as a monger looks like for you. Be happy!
Let me know. I'll be hanging out in the big 3 and can use some help finishing a bottle of Don Julio 70.
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2981645]Hard to compare. Apples and oranges.
FKK is more Eastern European girls. Mostly Romania. If you like white chicks. HK is obviously Latinas. Many from further south.
FKK are larger, more spread out, often suburban, a bit more luxurious. HK is usually a sardine can with loud music. And it's obviously a seedy place in a very seedy part of a seedy town.
FKK you're mostly left alone except girls making eyes. HK has waiters bothering you every 30 seconds.
FKK ironically is cheaper to bang. But you pay more to get there obviously.
I prefer an FKK but it's not practical to go often due to flights so HK will do.[/QUOTE]Good write up.
I've never been to FKKs, but based off what I've read and seen, I would say it probably isn't someplace that one would want to go to monger frequently.
Simply because there's an entry fee (it's a considerable amount I believe?) to even get INTO the place.
Also from what I've heard, you can't exactly connect with the girls by getting their phone numbers and meeting up with them independently. I'm sure you can probably do something like that in HK, but HK has its own laundry list of problems so it's not a good spot either, in my opinion.
In terms of affordability, I'm actually surprised that FKKs would be cheaper per fuck compared to HK.
I would think that FKKs would be more expensive, with all the upselling and bullshit that they throw on top.
Apparently the only thing you get with your session is just basic dick in pussy sex. ANYTHING extra like a blowjob is upcharged.
But at the end of the day, the cost of travel makes it too impractical for an american to go to FKKs regularly.
I don't even think it's worth moving and living to Germany specifically to visit FKKs. There's no future there to recruit one of the girls for a consistent thing, as I mentioned before.
All in all, there are far better places.
If you're looking for fun and to just have sex, obviously mexico and Canada will always be best if you're in the US, simply because of distance.
[QUOTE=Hadez;2981337]One of my wingmen is really into smoking marijuana with the girls. One time he ended up for 4 girls in his room because they wanted to place to smoke. I was next door and this mofo did not call me!! This has never happened to me but he aggressively looks for girls that smoke. It can be a little challenging getting the weed to the room but he has never herd anything about it when checking out. I can tell you it smells when I walk by.
I have let a few girls smoke weed, it does seem to improve their performance.[/QUOTE]Yeah, never do anything relating to any drug while you are in mexico.
That is the first rule of being there.
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2983942]I used to not like that about Tijuana. I wanted it to be more like nicer parts of Mexico. I've come around to appreciating it. You just have to appreciate it for what it is. Like you can watch trashy reality tv and enjoy it as long as you're not lamenting the fact it's not trying to win academy awards and it's just what it is. It's trash and it's enjoyable trash. That's Tijuana. It's dirty. The land zoning sucks so every street looks like a jigsaw puzzle. You have nice restaurants next to a guy with no legs and a sign asking for help. Prostitution up the street from revoluciand. Amazing tacos. Cheap beer. Corrupt cops. It's all just tossed into a blender and poured into the streets and it's disgusting and sad and beautiful.[/QUOTE]The best part is entering Tijuana from San Ysidro through the revolving doors. Whoever designed this area loaded it with the most chaos you can possibly bear. Vendor carts, thick smoke from taco carts, everyone shouting something, taxi drivers shouting taxi, taxi. Always a giant traffic jam and car horns. Now you know you're in Tijuana!
[QUOTE=StRobert;2984488]The best part is entering Tijuana from San Ysidro through the revolving doors. Whoever designed this area loaded it with the most chaos you can possibly bear. Vendor carts, thick smoke from taco carts, everyone shouting something, taxi drivers shouting taxi, taxi. Always a giant traffic jam and car horns. Now you know you're in Tijuana![/QUOTE]Did you notice that one of those revolving doors was broken off the gate and sitting to the side?
[QUOTE=TheCane;2984230]It is the main reason to go if the FKK sauna club scene is your thing. After Brazil I find Germany to be my favorite place to monger......[/QUOTE]Senor Cane, have you tried Canada? It has the type of girls you like.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2984604]Senor Cane, have you tried Canada? It has the type of girls you like.[/QUOTE]I have not tried Canada because my research indicates that the top destinations in that country are heavily geared towards an escort scene versus the club scene that I much prefer. That said, a long time ago before I became a monger, I had a Canadian girlfriend from Thunder Bay, Ontario and she was the best in bed of any girlfriend I ever had. That was for many reasons, including deep throat BBBJs and anal sex LOL! If we had met at another time in another place she is the one girl I think I would have married. Checking out Montreal is on my bucket list, for the city itself as well as for any mongering opportunities available.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2984230]It is the main reason to go if the FKK sauna club scene is your thing. After Brazil I find Germany to be my favorite place to monger. I'm not particularly looking for the GFE as I have more of a preference for the PSE more often than not. Many times though I will find a girl where we click and it can turn more towards the GFE. I love anal sex with the white girls, and anal is quite readily on the menu with many girls at the FKKs. And I have the coin to spend freely at the FKKs to get what I want. So I don't care about Tijuana being cheaper. And it's also a dump! I much prefer the "big city sophistication" of a Sao Paulo to the "dirty wild west" of Tijuana (but will and have stepped on both sides of that line). I do like the Latinas too though, and after several days of fucking the European white girls I start longing for a little bit more choice in "colors". This is one of the big reasons why I have Brazil ahead of Germany. More diversity. Oh, is that a bad word now LOL! But I love them both Brazil and Germany! Last few times I was in Brazil it was absolutely Heaven on earth fucking blue-eyed blonde Brasileiras of German descent LOL! I'm heading to Brazil for a month soon. And later this year will spend a month "bumming" around Germany (pun intended). Well doggy! But at the end of the day, like someone else here said, every man should experience the FKK clubs of Germany at least once. I say the same thing about the termas of Rio and the clinicas and nightclubs of Sao Paulo. And then just stick to what you personally enjoy the most. Choose what makes you happy. But experience as much as possible when it comes to this hobby so that you can truly know what happiness as a monger looks like for you. Be happy![/QUOTE]Where are the pale brunettes of any nationality? That's where I want to visit.
When I used to date the infamous La Diabla, the girl from Tropical who came close to killing me one night, we used to go to a bar close by La Coahuila called Bar Zacazonapan. It is a somewhat small bar kind of like down in a basement. Everybody in this bar smokes mota, and the police, who are well aware of its existence turn a blind eye. The first time we went, some locals invited us to sit with them and sample some of the mota. They subsequently left and gave us two joints as a parting gift. Fun atmosphere with a juke box that plays mostly American classics. If you order a beer they bring you a caguama (32 ounce beer). I'm sure the bar is still open.
[QUOTE=RikyMichaels7;2984640]When I used to date the infamous La Diabla, the girl from Tropical who came close to killing me one night, we used to go to a bar close by La Coahuila called Bar Zacazonapan. It is a somewhat small bar kind of like down in a basement. Everybody in this bar smokes mota, and the police, who are well aware of its existence turn a blind eye. The first time we went, some locals invited us to sit with them and sample some of the mota. They subsequently left and gave us two joints as a parting gift. Fun atmosphere with a juke box that plays mostly American classics. If you order a beer they bring you a caguama (32 ounce beer). I'm sure the bar is still open.[/QUOTE]They closed that location LONG ago.
They moved to Calle 7 west of Madero. Much larger venue. Same jukebox but now it's too weak to provide good sound to the substantially larger space. Large dark room to the side for smoking. Bathrooms aren't a scary as the old location. They only sell caguamas.
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;2980641]Thinking of visiting in a week or two. Have there been any changes to the club atmosphere / border crossings after the recent US-Mexico political drama? Is everything the same at the crossings?[/QUOTE]I went this week and there were differences in crossing on both sides. The line to get in was longer as Mexican border officials were filling out VISAs for everybody. Often they just check passports and wave you through, but the process of filling out the form, even though they did it for me, created a line that took 15-20 minutes to get through. It wasn't a huge deal but it's always annoying to wait in line when you didn't have to before.
Entering the US at around 11 AM on Wednesday, as others have mentioned, the line is gone. Not shorter; completely gone. I have SENTRI so crossing has always been quick for me, but if you don't have it, there's zero difference in wait for regular vs. SENTRI. I've never seen it like that ever.
While in Tijuana, it seemed the same. Taxis were the same. The prices everywhere are the same so far. I did notice that the street girls in the alley were almost all gone. I don't know what that was about. I'm not into them, so it didn't make a difference to me, but there were virtually no options at day or night in the alley.
HK was the same as ever. Lots of chicas at night. I go during the week so it's never as packed as weekends, but there were a decent amount of American dudes. It doesn't seem that any regulars have been deterred by political strife so far. Some girls seem a little more aggressive, perhaps because of economics, but it's not too different from before. There's always some sharks.
Speaking of which, had my first HK drama this time. I normally hook up with a chica by texting her beforehand. I didn't this time and one of her friends saw me, recognized me, and texted her like I was cheating on her LOL. The chica texted me passive aggressively asking if it was true I was there LOL. After some back and forth, I found out she doesn't even work in HK anymore so she just texted me to whine LOL. I learned my lesson on starting "relationships" with them (though to be fair, she was the first chica I met when I started going to HK in 2017 I didn't know any better back then).
All in all, it was the same experience I've had many other times. I like HK for scoping out some of the most beautiful women I've ever seen wearing next to nothing so I had a good time and thankfully nothing seemed to different. HK might be immune to political winds. I even went to other parts of Tijuana for dinner during the early evening and didn't have any bad or unsafe experiences.
I might go back in May before my VIP card expires. Hopefully no wars, trade or otherwise LOL, break out before then.
[QUOTE=RikyMichaels7;2984640]When I used to date the infamous La Diabla, the girl from Tropical who came close to killing me one night, we used to go to a bar close by La Coahuila called Bar Zacazonapan. It is a somewhat small bar kind of like down in a basement. Everybody in this bar smokes mota, and the police, who are well aware of its existence turn a blind eye. The first time we went, some locals invited us to sit with them and sample some of the mota. They subsequently left and gave us two joints as a parting gift. Fun atmosphere with a juke box that plays mostly American classics. If you order a beer they bring you a caguama (32 ounce beer). I'm sure the bar is still open.[/QUOTE]If you go to the zona long enough you will always find your own "La Diabla" mine went by the name of Sade, Alexia, Leona, Lady, Valentina, sheesh they all were La Diabla!
[QUOTE=RikyMichaels7;2984640]When I used to date the infamous La Diabla, the girl from Tropical who came close to killing me one night, we used to go to a bar close by La Coahuila called Bar Zacazonapan. It is a somewhat small bar kind of like down in a basement. Everybody in this bar smokes mota, and the police, who are well aware of its existence turn a blind eye. The first time we went, some locals invited us to sit with them and sample some of the mota. They subsequently left and gave us two joints as a parting gift. Fun atmosphere with a juke box that plays mostly American classics. If you order a beer they bring you a caguama (32 ounce beer). I'm sure the bar is still open.[/QUOTE]No longer in that basement. That place did have a really great atmosphere. Now is located on 7th close to madero st. But nothing loke the old days.
[QUOTE=Hadez;2981337]One of my wingmen is really into smoking marijuana with the girls. One time he ended up for 4 girls in his room because they wanted to place to smoke. I was next door and this mofo did not call me!! This has never happened to me but he aggressively looks for girls that smoke. It can be a little challenging getting the weed to the room but he has never herd anything about it when checking out. I can tell you it smells when I walk by.
I have let a few girls smoke weed, it does seem to improve their performance.[/QUOTE]Not sure you are my wingman or maybe its a common thing. But pretty much the same thing happened to me. 4 girls showed up as I was checking in. They asked if they could smoke in my room. I asked if they share, they said yes. Not much happened I can barely handle one girl. I did ask for a picture, thought 4 scantly clad girls in my bed would be a nice souvenir. The funny part was after they filed out of the room. The towel boys in the hallway started slapping me 5 like I was the man.
[QUOTE=SeaBeeJoe;2984670]If you go to the zona long enough you will always find your own "La Diabla" mine went by the name of Sade, Alexia, Leona, Lady, Valentina, sheesh they all were La Diabla![/QUOTE]Yes, there are definitely plenty of these types. In the case of La Diabla, she was demonically possessed. True story. Long story.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;2984652]They closed that location LONG ago.
They moved to Calle 7 west of Madero. Much larger venue. Same jukebox but now it's too weak to provide good sound to the substantially larger space. Large dark room to the side for smoking. Bathrooms aren't a scary as the old location. They only sell caguamas.[/QUOTE]Very interesting. Thanks for the update.
[QUOTE=RikyMichaels7;2984717]Yes, there are definitely plenty of these types. In the case of La Diabla, she was demonically possessed. True story. Long story.[/QUOTE]We were cozying up with each other several years ago in BT, we even took a snapshots together, I still have the pics. I sensed the wildness and opted to shut it it down. I am much into the fresher ones before they get spoiled so didn't work out for me, even her nickname is telling. She actually is a sociable person though.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2984879]We were cozying up with each other several years ago in BT, we even took a snapshots together, I still have the pics. I sensed the wildness and opted to shut it it down. I am much into the fresher ones before they get spoiled so didn't work out for me, even her nickname is telling. She actually is a sociable person though.[/QUOTE]She was very sociable and a lot of fun until her bad demon took over, at which point all Hell broke loose, and I mean Hell. She got her nickname (La Diabla) from the waiters in Las Chaveles one night based on her actions. She got mad at me that night for no reason and took my prescription glasses off and stomped on them, followed by a nail gouging to my face. The waiters escorted her out of the bar and the police told her to get in a taxi and leave. Well, 10 minutes later she snuck in from the back entrance. A working girl had come over to give me a kleenex to wipe my face. Diabla saw this and punched the girl in the face. The police were summoned and told her she was banned from the bar and would be taken to jail if she ever returned. Hence the nickname.
[QUOTE=RikyMichaels7;2984888]She was very sociable and a lot of fun until her bad demon took over, at which point all Hell broke loose, and I mean Hell. She got her nickname (La Diabla) from the waiters in Las Chaveles one night based on her actions. She got mad at me that night for no reason and took my prescription glasses off and stomped on them, followed by a nail gouging to my face. The waiters escorted her out of the bar and the police told her to get in a taxi and leave. Well, 10 minutes later she snuck in from the back entrance. A working girl had come over to give me a kleenex to wipe my face. Diabla saw this and punched the girl in the face. The police were summoned and told her she was banned from the bar and would be taken to jail if she ever returned. Hence the nickname.[/QUOTE]What the fuck.
Man that's the kind of thing that would give me the heebie-jeebies about returning for like a year. That's really ant****ial violent behavior. The kind where you really want to inflict pain on someone. It's ok because she's a woman and it's physically harder to hurt a man. But damn that's crazy town.
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2983942]I used to not like that about Tijuana. I wanted it to be more like nicer parts of Mexico. I've come around to appreciating it. You just have to appreciate it for what it is. Like you can watch trashy reality tv and enjoy it as long as you're not lamenting the fact it's not trying to win academy awards and it's just what it is. It's trash and it's enjoyable trash. That's Tijuana. It's dirty. The land zoning sucks so every street looks like a jigsaw puzzle. You have nice restaurants next to a guy with no legs and a sign asking for help. Prostitution up the street from revoluciand. Amazing tacos. Cheap beer. Corrupt cops. It's all just tossed into a blender and poured into the streets and it's disgusting and sad and beautiful.[/QUOTE]Wow. Very well said. First person account in the form of a feee form poem.
This also fits my experience and observations there as well.
The hardest part is the blatant poverty spewing out. Be respectful, mind your P.S. And Qs, and you'll be fine. But the really hard up people on the streets -- and their pet dogs are a hard sight to stomach.
[QUOTE=RikyMichaels7;2984888]She was very sociable and a lot of fun until her bad demon took over, at which point all Hell broke loose, and I mean Hell. She got her nickname (La Diabla) from the waiters in Las Chaveles one night based on her actions. She got mad at me that night for no reason and took my prescription glasses off and stomped on them, followed by a nail gouging to my face. The waiters escorted her out of the bar and the police told her to get in a taxi and leave. Well, 10 minutes later she snuck in from the back entrance. A working girl had come over to give me a kleenex to wipe my face. Diabla saw this and punched the girl in the face. The police were summoned and told her she was banned from the bar and would be taken to jail if she ever returned. Hence the nickname.[/QUOTE]Whew hahaha! I dodged a bullet. In any case I am not a type that forms a relationship, I don't even have regulars. What I call regulars are those I have seen more than 3 times and never lasts than 10 session with very few. I tend to drift away. Dang! The story you tell pictures a really out of control woman.
Had the opportunity to make a very late night visit to HK. Arrived about 2 am and was surprised that it still had a good size crowd with many female options. Finally picked a fun girl to drink with who didn't waste anytime getting me the urge to go upstairs. She might have been the first girl that I can remember starting the session of with a nice rim job and soon after some BBBJ. I returned the favor to her somewhat and at some point realized she had started or was on her period. Not a first for me so I continued but was surprised she still seemed to want me to do her without a condom.
Went back down stairs to continue drinking till my energy had faded and needed to sleep.
One thing I noticed that hasn't been mentioned here that I recall is that in the Miami area everyone was openly smoking cigarettes. Not sure how long this has been going on since Nothing hasn't posted his normal weekly trip reports.
Also I paid in pesos and is a good way to save some bucks if you want. I got almost 20 to 1 and HK is at 18 to 1. Now the weird thing is that technically HK won't exchange pesos to dollars. I guess they know that people would take advantage of that.
Also many are concerned about being pulled over even in a taxi but I used the HK shuttle for the first time and was waived thru by police and not stopped coming or going. Also noticed no difference in the attitude of anyone towards Americans. I even laughed when driving across the border I saw a Trump head being sold like the many other plaster trinkets they sell. One vendor even had an American flag on his cart.
[QUOTE=Sol12;2985460]Had the opportunity to make a very late night visit to HK. Arrived about 2 am and was surprised that it still had a good size crowd with many female options. Finally picked a fun girl to drink with who didn't waste anytime getting me the urge to go upstairs. She might have been the first girl that I can remember starting the session of with a nice rim job and soon after some BBBJ. I returned the favor to her somewhat and at some point realized she had started or was on her period. Not a first for me so I continued but was surprised she still seemed to want me to do her without a condom.
Went back down stairs to continue drinking till my energy had faded and needed to sleep.
One thing I noticed that hasn't been mentioned here that I recall is that in the Miami area everyone was openly smoking cigarettes. Not sure how long this has been going on since Nothing hasn't posted his normal weekly trip reports.
Also I paid in pesos and is a good way to save some bucks if you want. I got almost 20 to 1 and HK is at 18 to 1. Now the weird thing is that technically HK won't exchange pesos to dollars. I guess they know that people would take advantage of that.
Also many are concerned about being pulled over even in a taxi but I used the HK shuttle for the first time and was waived thru by police and not stopped coming or going. Also noticed no difference in the attitude of anyone towards Americans. I even laughed when driving across the border I saw a Trump head being sold like the many other plaster trinkets they sell. One vendor even had an American flag on his cart.[/QUOTE]They have been allowing smoking in Miami since around the beginning of the year. I passed by HK around 1 am or so on Sunday night after seeing a girl at Chicago. Chica selection was ok. There was a girl dancing on one of the side stages who I liked a lot. She was slim with nice little curves proportionate to her frame. Brunette, probably mid 20's. Gave her a tip and took a mental picture of her in case I saw her around later. Out of curiosity I asked how much to go arriba and she quoted 120. Could probably get her down to 100, but 120 is acceptable if the service is good IMO. Took a seat on the second floor and was eventually approached by an aggressive curvy girl. She was about a seven out of ten and guided my hands underneath her clothes to feel her bare tits and was kissing me all over. A mesero took notice and asked if he should bring the lady a drink. Sure, this is worth the $11 I guess, I thought to myself. She then took my hand and basically shoved it inside of herself to feel how wet she was. Damn, I wasn't really looking to do another arriba tonight but this girl was making it hard, literally. Taking note, she then reached in my pants and started stroking me. She then starts the heavy upsell to go arriba. I told her maybe some other time since I was about to head out. She then got a little more aggressive, not wanting to let me go. She started feeling a little too good to be true so I asked if she would blow me without a rubber which caught her a little off guard and she said no. She said she likes to have fun, but with protection. I told her it was fine and that I didn't really like to go arriba unless I had my own room anyway because I refuse to pay $40ST fee. She said she understood and maybe we can hook up some other time. She got up and left when she was done with her drink.
I saw a girl I know dancing on stage near the back and figured I would say Hi whenever she was done. During this time the brunette I had seen earlier walked by me so I invited her to sit down for a drink. I told her I wasn't sticking around much longer but just wanted to introduce myself and hopefully get her number to hook up some other time. She said she was from Chihuahua and only been working a few months. I don't recall seeing her around and she said she usually comes in very late. She kept commenting on other girls bodies so I asked if she was bisexual and she said yes. I then started showing her pictures of other chicas I know in case she wanted to have a threesome with them some day and she said sure and told me which ones she liked best. Will definitely reach out to her on a future visit.
Eventually the girl I was waiting to get off stage finished up and she spotted me. She came over to have a couple drinks and I told her I just wanted to say Hi before I left. She said she was glad I did and hung around for about a half hour to talk and fool around a little bit. Took off back home after that and called it a night.
This might be one of the only groups online that can understand this sentiment.
I Heard something interesting the other day. Bad things happened to people and they always ask why me? But nobody ever says I was born in a time of peace, with antibiotics, prosperity that even ancient rulers would envy, with conveniences the make life easy, why me? We take those things for granted.
And I often look at people in Europe and say how nice it must be to get on a euro rail and be in a different country in a matter of hours. How nice it must be to live on the East Coast and fly so easily to other parts of the world. Why are we so isolated here? Why is it so much harder to have those experiences.
But you know what. As a southern Californian I can drive to Tijuana in the morning. I can drink beer and have 5 star meals for under 50 bucks. I can buy cheap viagra and bang 3 girls in a day and pay them each less than I pay for groceries. I can stay in a 4 star hotel for 100 bucks. I can waltz across the border with global entry. I can be home a few hours later and still have a full day.
That's worth being thankful for. I need to appreciate the gift that is living so close to a cheap foreign country. Even if it gets old, most of the US can't do this.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2985510]They have been allowing smoking in Miami since around the beginning of the year.[/QUOTE]Yeah I figured it didn't just happen I was remembering a previous poster bringing up smoking in the room so it surprised me that nobody said HK had an area to smoke like CC. When I asked my waiter about it he said they use to have another part of the club they let people smoke in but at some point just started allowing it in Miami.
I don't recall seeing any girls ordering wine same as my last visit, the girl I drank with didn't even bring it up just ordered beer.
[QUOTE=Sol12;2985460]She might have been the first girl that I can remember starting the session of with a nice rim job and soon after some BBBJ. I returned the favor to her somewhat and at some point realized she had started or was on her period.[/QUOTE]--Bruh. Remind me not to read these posts while eating.
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2985518]This might be one of the only groups online that can understand this sentiment.
I Heard something interesting the other day. Bad things happened to people and they always ask why me? But nobody ever says I was born in a time of peace, with antibiotics, prosperity that even ancient rulers would envy, with conveniences the make life easy, why me? We take those things for granted.
And I often look at people in Europe and say how nice it must be to get on a euro rail and be in a different country in a matter of hours. How nice it must be to live on the East Coast and fly so easily to other parts of the world. Why are we so isolated here? Why is it so much harder to have those experiences.
But you know what. As a southern Californian I can drive to Tijuana in the morning. I can drink beer and have 5 star meals for under 50 bucks. I can buy cheap viagra and bang 3 girls in a day and pay them each less than I pay for groceries. I can stay in a 4 star hotel for 100 bucks. I can waltz across the border with global entry. I can be home a few hours later and still have a full day.
That's worth being thankful for. I need to appreciate the gift that is living so close to a cheap foreign country. Even if it gets old, most of the US can't do this.[/QUOTE]If you are over 55 add to the fact that you are in a time where you can swallow a pill and your Mboro gets as rock hard as you were in your teens. Just remember you are the first generation in all human history who can bang women with ease at your age. 10 years ago this was hard because the pills were too darn expensive. 20 years ago you had to be a millionaire to get those pills. 30 years ago there was no such a thing over 55 banging women left and right unless one was awarded special rare genes.
Another note, Tijuana is not as cheap as you put it. It has gotten expensive.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2985657]
Another note, Tijuana is not as cheap as you put it. It has gotten expensive.[/QUOTE]Really? I eat at really nice restaurants (oryx, justina, crema why verde) and the bill for 2 always comes out to less than 100 dollars US. I stay at nice hotels like grand and Pueblo amigo and it's always like 100 bucks a night. I order beers and they are like 4 dollars. Ubers reliably comes out to about 3-4 dollars per trip.
These prices are less than half what you'the pay a few miles north.
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2985759]Really? I eat at really nice restaurants (oryx, justina, crema why verde) and the bill for 2 always comes out to less than 100 dollars US. I stay at nice hotels like grand and Pueblo amigo and it's always like 100 bucks a night. I order beers and they are like 4 dollars. Ubers reliably comes out to about 3-4 dollars per trip.
These prices are less than half what you'the pay a few miles north.[/QUOTE]Compare Mexico to other comparable economies where you can go and spend time. If you take a 2 weeks vacation Tijuana will break the bank specially compared to other southern destinations. When I go to Tijuana once every month, each time for 5 days, I spend about $1000. That is $12,000 per year.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2985856]Compare Mexico to other comparable economies where you can go and spend time. If you take a 2 weeks vacation Tijuana will break the bank specially compared to other southern destinations. When I go to Tijuana once every month, each time for 5 days, I spend about $1000. That is $12,000 per year.[/QUOTE]I think we are just watching this movie from different angles and seeing different stories.
When you say you go to Tijuana for five days and spend $1000. I'm thinking: I know! That's how cheap it is! 200 bucks a day!
Shit I go out to dinner and drinks with friends in Los Angeles and in out 150 dollars. No hotel, no Ubers, no girls, nothing. Just the dinner. If you can live well while traveling for 200 bucks a day that's way better than you're getting in California.
No doubt there are cheaper places in the world. I've been to some. I'm just saying, this is in our backyard. And it's cheap. Way cheaper than just a few miles north by more than half.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2985856]Compare Mexico to other comparable economies where you can go and spend time. If you take a 2 weeks vacation Tijuana will break the bank specially compared to other southern destinations. When I go to Tijuana once every month, each time for 5 days, I spend about $1000. That is $12,000 per year.[/QUOTE]I'm going to Tijuana in April for 4 days / nights and hoping I can get away with only spending $1,000 plus I still have pesos from a trip last year.
If you bang just 1 bar chick a day that's still about $480 or so. Then you'll be buying a VIP card, the hotel & deposit. Drinks + tipping.
I just checked their gallery but most of them are silicone tits like Jeff' be. S GF. Maybe they think all the rich older men like silicone tits?? I'm from SF bay area, its all so fucking suck here ever since Onlyfans give ordinary girls to make millions for doing nothing nowadays. Men's quality of life just went straight to the toilet since 2016. I still remember it was a such a great time last recession. I did so many beautiful girls back then. Now, I can only go to eastern Europe to get that treatment. All I wanted is a serious recession or depression and all men should petition to have Onlyfans or similar websites to be removed permanently. We are struggling real hard here. I went to HK 1 or 2 times last few years, it changed a lot too. Girls quality are not that good and service quality is bad too. Most of them are silicone tits but I'm not Jeff be.
And the club is so packed now too. So many guys know that they don't get shitz even paying price in LA so they thought Tijuana maybe like the old days cheap and good quality but it maybe the same too now. The last good time I could get a tall big natural tits blonde in HK club was 2016 or 2017 but that was it. 2016 was an very extremely important year, everything went to toilet from that year on. The pandemic further destroy men's life and middle classes.
[QUOTE=Rainman306;2985871]I'm going to Tijuana in April for 4 days / nights and hoping I can get away with only spending $1,000 plus I still have pesos from a trip last year.
If you bang just 1 bar chick a day that's still about $480 or so. Then you'll be buying a VIP card, the hotel & deposit. Drinks + tipping.[/QUOTE]If you don't spend too much on the expensive booze, You can have a full swing of fun time with 1K, easy. After the arriba money and room rent, my next main expense is tips for the girls I talk to in the clubs.
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2985759]Really? I eat at really nice restaurants (oryx, justina, crema why verde) and the bill for 2 always comes out to less than 100 dollars US. I stay at nice hotels like grand and Pueblo amigo and it's always like 100 bucks a night. I order beers and they are like 4 dollars. Ubers reliably comes out to about 3-4 dollars per trip.
These prices are less than half what you'the pay a few miles north.[/QUOTE]All true. However, Tijuana has become quite a bit more expensive in relation to their economy and the average earnings of the locals. Dinner for two at a nice joint might only be around $100, including wine, but that's still a LOT of money in Tijuana. And it's worse than it was just a few years ago. Shoot, even the tacos are running about $2 each now. $100/ night for a hotel is quite pricey compared to a few years ago, too. I note that Grand used to be at the upper end of the pricing structure. But it seems everybody else has raised their prices, as a percentage, more than has Grand. As you said, about $100/ night is now the average, and that's quite a bit higher than 3 or 4 years ago.
So, Tijuana is still cheaper than CA, but that's a really low bar. Prices in Tijuana have gone up considerably.
If you want a place with excellent food, nice hotels, and cheap prices, Vietnam is a very good choice. Just don't think about the long-ass flight. LOL.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;2986054]All true. However, Tijuana has become quite a bit more expensive in relation to their economy and the average earnings of the locals. Dinner for two at a nice joint might only be around $100, including wine, but that's still a LOT of money in Tijuana. And it's worse than it was just a few years ago. Shoot, even the tacos are running about $2 each now. $100/ night for a hotel is quite pricey compared to a few years ago, too. I note that Grand used to be at the upper end of the pricing structure. But it seems everybody else has raised their prices, as a percentage, more than has Grand. As you said, about $100/ night is now the average, and that's quite a bit higher than 3 or 4 years ago.
So, Tijuana is still cheaper than CA, but that's a really low bar. Prices in Tijuana have gone up considerably.
If you want a place with excellent food, nice hotels, and cheap prices, Vietnam is a very good choice. Just don't think about the long-ass flight. LOL.[/QUOTE]I mean that's all fair but the purchasing power parity for Mexican nationals is irrelevant to me. I'm converting from US dollars. That it's expensive for a Mexican is irrelevant to me. I can still get a 5 star dinner with all the trimmings in Tijuana for under 75 bucks a head and that's a meal that would easily be 200 dollars in LA.
I'd love to go to Vietnam but my point here was to appreciate that we have this amazing resource just driving distance from those of us in CA. If they closed the border tomorrow or started requiring advance visas in response to trump I'd honestly feel a genuine sense of loss. I'm just acknowledging this. That it's a gift to have relatively cheap luxury and poontang within such a close drive it can be done on the regular.
The glass is definitely half full.
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2986242]I mean that's all fair but the purchasing power parity for Mexican nationals is irrelevant to me. I'm converting from US dollars. That it's expensive for a Mexican is irrelevant to me. I can still get a 5 star dinner with all the trimmings in Tijuana for under 75 bucks a head and that's a meal that would easily be 200 dollars in LA.
[/QUOTE]Man, you guys are high rollers. I doubt I've ever spent much more than $50-$60 (for myself) at a restaurant. Then again I don't drink expensive wines and all that kind of stuff. You can go to Taylor's Steak House and get a decent meal for 30/40 bucks. At $200+ it's not about the food anymore. It just about being seen with the in-crowd. I'm not rolling in dough so I'd rather save my money for women and travel. McDonalds is underrated.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2986447]Man, you guys are high rollers. I doubt I've ever spent much more than $50-$60 (for myself) at a restaurant. Then again I don't drink expensive wines and all that kind of stuff. You can go to Taylor's Steak House and get a decent meal for 30/40 bucks. At $200+ it's not about the food anymore. It just about being seen with the in-crowd. I'm not rolling in dough so I'd rather save my money for women and travel. McDonalds is underrated.[/QUOTE]That's fair and you have to prioritize your spending, and I'm glad you're good with your prioritization. Good man.
It's not really true that at 200+ it's not about the food. 200 is not much to spend in LA for a good dinner. It's pretty middle of the pack. If you drink. A place that serves a 60 dollar plate (a nice restaurant but not a blowout dinner) will typically have a 20 dollar appetizer. Add on a bottle of wine you split with a friend at 60 each. Add on reasonable tip and tax. And that's 200. It's easy to get there without dessert or coffee.
There are places in Tijuana that are easily comparable to those restaurants. Same decor same quality food same service level. But you're out the door for 75 bucks a head. I know this is not everyone's priority but if you're a food fan like I am, Tijuana becomes a dream. Because you get a 4-5 star hotel, amazing meals, sex with a beautiful girl, and you skip back across the border maybe 300 bucks lighter. For a lot of of people that's an incredible bargain. Again, priorities.
(My financial situation is indeed very fortunate. But I love love love a good deal. Tijuana does it for me every time).
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2985857]I think we are just watching this movie from different angles and seeing different stories.
When you say you go to Tijuana for five days and spend $1000. I'm thinking: I know! That's how cheap it is! 200 bucks a day!
Shit I go out to dinner and drinks with friends in Los Angeles and in out 150 dollars. No hotel, no Ubers, no girls, nothing. Just the dinner. If you can live well while traveling for 200 bucks a day that's way better than you're getting in California.
No doubt there are cheaper places in the world. I've been to some. I'm just saying, this is in our backyard. And it's cheap. Way cheaper than just a few miles north by more than half.[/QUOTE]Here is a quick search I got online here. [URL]https://www.budgetyourtrip.com/colombia/medellin[/URL].
How much does it cost to travel to Medellin?
You should plan to spend around $28 (CO $114,023) per day on your vacation in Medellin. This is the average daily price based on the expenses of other visitors.
Past travelers have spent, on average for one day:
$16 (CO $63,462) on meals.
$3. 87 (CO $15,801) on local transportation.
$8. 89 (CO $36,272) on hotels.
Add to $25 for a casa girl per day and you get about, total expense $60/ day including women. That is $300/5 days. I am not making this up. Check online. You can argue the plane ticket but that is beyond this discussion.
Compare $60/ day vs $200/ day- or- $300/5 days vs $1000/5 days.
This is my point. Compare Tijuana to other destinations and you find Tijuana being very expensive. The average joe who mongers in the Tijuana have not seen a salary increase in years where as living expenses have gone way up, including those services he spend for in Tijuana.
I am just saying, Tijuana has gotten expensive but I still am willing to spend time there although when I go I curb my expenses as much as I can. I don't tip as much, I don't drink in the clubs as much, I am happy if I see 2 girls instead of 4 or so I used to take up. The tourist and entertainment industry is shooting itself in the foot thinking raising prices get them more income, It may not.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2986564]Here is a quick search I got online here. [URL]https://www.budgetyourtrip.com/colombia/medellin[/URL].
How much does it cost to travel to Medellin?
You should plan to spend around $28 (CO $114,023) per day on your vacation in Medellin. This is the average daily price based on the expenses of other visitors.
Past travelers have spent, on average for one day:
$16 (CO $63,462) on meals.
$3. 87 (CO $15,801) on local transportation.
$8. 89 (CO $36,272) on hotels.
Add to $25 for a casa girl per day and you get about, total expense $60/ day including women. That is $300/5 days. I am not making this up. Check online. You can argue the plane ticket but that is beyond this discussion.
Compare $60/ day vs $200/ day- or- $300/5 days vs $1000/5 days.
This is my point. Compare Tijuana to other destinations and you find Tijuana being very expensive. The average joe who mongers in the Tijuana have not seen a salary increase in years where as living expenses have gone way up, including those services he spend for in Tijuana.
I am just saying, Tijuana has gotten expensive but I still am willing to spend time there although when I go I curb my expenses as much as I can. I don't tip as much, I don't drink in the clubs as much, I am happy if I see 2 girls instead of 4 or so I used to take up. The tourist and entertainment industry is shooting itself in the foot thinking raising prices get them more income, It may not.[/QUOTE]Totally. There are cheaper places in the world. And many of them are much much better than Tijuana.
But that's not opposite the point I'm making. I'm not saying Tijuana #1 rah rah. I'm saying its much cheaper than California, and we are blessed to have it in our backyard (for those of us who live in Southern California).
Obviously Medellin etc are better. But for us here, we have to fly to get there and all of the sudden spending 5 dollars on a meal becomes a much more expensive proposition than spending 50 dollars in Tijuana.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2986564]Here is a quick search I got online here. [URL]https://www.budgetyourtrip.com/colombia/medellin[/URL].
How much does it cost to travel to Medellin?
You should plan to spend around $28 (CO $114,023) per day on your vacation in Medellin. This is the average daily price based on the expenses of other visitors.
Past travelers have spent, on average for one day:
$16 (CO $63,462) on meals.
$3. 87 (CO $15,801) on local transportation.
$8. 89 (CO $36,272) on hotels.
Add to $25 for a casa girl per day and you get about, total expense $60/ day including women. That is $300/5 days. I am not making this up. Check online. You can argue the plane ticket but that is beyond this discussion.
Compare $60/ day vs $200/ day- or- $300/5 days vs $1000/5 days.
This is my point. Compare Tijuana to other destinations and you find Tijuana being very expensive.[/QUOTE]The plane ticket makes this even for Southern California guys.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2986564]Here is a quick search I got online here. [URL]https://www.budgetyourtrip.com/colombia/medellin[/URL].
How much does it cost to travel to Medellin?
You should plan to spend around $28 (CO $114,023) per day on your vacation in Medellin. This is the average daily price based on the expenses of other visitors.
Past travelers have spent, on average for one day:
$16 (CO $63,462) on meals.
$3. 87 (CO $15,801) on local transportation.
$8. 89 (CO $36,272) on hotels.
Add to $25 for a casa girl per day and you get about, total expense $60/ day including women. That is $300/5 days. I am not making this up. Check online. You can argue the plane ticket but that is beyond this discussion.
Compare $60/ day vs $200/ day- or- $300/5 days vs $1000/5 days.
This is my point. Compare Tijuana to other destinations and you find Tijuana being very expensive. The average joe who mongers in the Tijuana have not seen a salary increase in years where as living expenses have gone way up, including those services he spend for in Tijuana.
I am just saying, Tijuana has gotten expensive but I still am willing to spend time there although when I go I curb my expenses as much as I can. I don't tip as much, I don't drink in the clubs as much, I am happy if I see 2 girls instead of 4 or so I used to take up. The tourist and entertainment industry is shooting itself in the foot thinking raising prices get them more income, It may not.[/QUOTE]I live 25 minutes from the border. I drive to Tijuana 3-4 days a months and yeah its a lot more expensive than it used to be. Have been doing it for decades. I have been to Medellin 11 times in the last 4 years. Those numbers for MDE are way off. Even a broke ass lowlife shitty vaca to MDE is going to cost a lot more and no way you get a hotel, even the worse dogshit place, for $8. 89. Not even close. You might be able to eat for $16/ day if you like really crappy food on your vacation. You might get laid for $25 but she will be butt ugly and in a gross POS room.
I'm in Tijuana now and it looks like they are getting ready for you High Rollers to buy these bottles tonight. Anybody ever buy these over priced bottles at Hong Kong Club?
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2986658]I'm in Tijuana now and it looks like they are getting ready for you High Rollers to buy these bottles tonight. Anybody ever buy these over priced bottles at Hong Kong Club?[/QUOTE]I did once. Because the waiter tricked me. I told him I only buy beers for the girls or a drink that is the normal price. The ******* brings the chica a wine bottle then tells me it is 35 dlls. It is actually 30 but still a rip off.
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2986529]That's fair and you have to prioritize your spending, and I'm glad you're good with your prioritization. Good man.
It's not really true that at 200+ it's not about the food. 200 is not much to spend in LA for a good dinner. It's pretty middle of the pack. If you drink. A place that serves a 60 dollar plate (a nice restaurant but not a blowout dinner) will typically have a 20 dollar appetizer. Add on a bottle of wine you split with a friend at 60 each. Add on reasonable tip and tax. And that's 200. It's easy to get there without dessert or coffee.
There are places in Tijuana that are easily comparable to those restaurants. Same decor same quality food same service level. But you're out the door for 75 bucks a head. I know this is not everyone's priority but if you're a food fan like I am, Tijuana becomes a dream. Because you get a 4-5 star hotel, amazing meals, sex with a beautiful girl, and you skip back across the border maybe 300 bucks lighter. For a lot of of people that's an incredible bargain. Again, priorities.
(My financial situation is indeed very fortunate. But I love love love a good deal. Tijuana does it for me every time).[/QUOTE]Yeah, It's really with the alcohol that we're talking $200+. That I can understand. I'm just not a big social drinker like that.
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2986652] I have been to Medellin 11 times in the last 4 years. Those numbers for MDE are way off. Even a broke ass lowlife shitty vaca to MDE is going to cost a lot more and no way you get a hotel, even the worse dogshit place, for $8. 89. Not even close. You might be able to eat for $16/ day if you like really crappy food on your vacation. You might get laid for $25 but she will be butt ugly and in a gross POS room.[/QUOTE]You are correct. I do not know MDE, I went by what I saw in the website I linked. The same website I linked for you has another page where it has an interesting chart about Hotel prices. In that chart the average cost is about $35 per day. Although they go as low as $8 and as high as $70. Here is the link. [URL]https://www.budgetyourtrip.com/hotels/colombia/medellin-3674962[/URL].
In Tijuana, I'd say the average price is about $70 per night and you can go as high as $300 per night in some of the higher standard hotels.
As for women, a guy here in ISG in the Colombia MDE section posted this about a casa. "Dulce Compania. Still open. 70 K 30 min. 5 K cover. 5 girls. " That is about $20.
I can find the same much cheaper average prices in Brazil, Central America etc.
We agree on one thing, Tijuana is expensive. Because it is close, TJ sucks up all the visitor traffic that would have been bound for SA instead. If there was a direct flight from Cali to Colombia or other destinations, with the same cost, lots of people would have ended up there. Right now the flight down there is a pain in the neck.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2986815]You are correct. I do not know MDE, I went by what I saw in the website I linked. The same website I linked for you has another page where it has an interesting chart about Hotel prices. In that chart the average cost is about $35 per day. Although they go as low as $8 and as high as $70. Here is the link. [URL]https://www.budgetyourtrip.com/hotels/colombia/medellin-3674962[/URL].
In Tijuana, I'd say the average price is about $70 per night and you can go as high as $300 per night in some of the higher standard hotels.
As for women, a guy here in ISG in the Colombia MDE section posted this about a casa. "Dulce Compania. Still open. 70 K 30 min. 5 K cover. 5 girls. " That is about $20.
I can find the same much cheaper average prices in Brazil, Central America etc.
We agree on one thing, Tijuana is expensive. Because it is close, TJ sucks up all the visitor traffic that would have been bound for SA instead. If there was a direct flight from Cali to Colombia or other destinations, with the same cost, lots of people would have ended up there. Right now the flight down there is a pain in the neck.[/QUOTE]Yes I knew would come back and argue about it. That site of yours is dated. Go on any of the travel sites and search for lowest prices. You could get something for around $30 and it would be disgusting. So would your $20 puta for 20 minutes in a dump. You could take 2 or 3 bus or metro rides a day for $4 but I like Ubers, much safer. I guess if you are a lowlife you could do that but then how to you find all the money to get there and back?
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2986833]Yes I knew would come back and argue about it. That site of yours is dated. Go on any of the travel sites and search for lowest prices. You could get something for around $30 and it would be disgusting. So would your $20 puta for 20 minutes in a dump. You could take 2 or 3 bus or metro rides a day for $4 but I like Ubers, much safer. I guess if you are a lowlife you could do that but then how to you find all the money to get there and back?[/QUOTE]
I was not arguing at all. Are you cool or are you throwing a temper tantrum for no reason. I cannot tell from the tone of your text. Hopefully you are chill and worth to talk to.
The site I linked is recent. The quote I put from here is recent, like from last December. You could be right, I could be wrong, or vice versa. We are learning from each other, hopefully.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;2986054]All true. However, Tijuana has become quite a bit more expensive in relation to their economy and the average earnings of the locals. Dinner for two at a nice joint might only be around $100, including wine, but that's still a LOT of money in Tijuana. And it's worse than it was just a few years ago. Shoot, even the tacos are running about $2 each now. $100/ night for a hotel is quite pricey compared to a few years ago, too. I note that Grand used to be at the upper end of the pricing structure. But it seems everybody else has raised their prices, as a percentage, more than has Grand. As you said, about $100/ night is now the average, and that's quite a bit higher than 3 or 4 years ago.
So, Tijuana is still cheaper than CA, but that's a really low bar. Prices in Tijuana have gone up considerably.
If you want a place with excellent food, nice hotels, and cheap prices, Vietnam is a very good choice. Just don't think about the long-ass flight. LOL.[/QUOTE]How much do girls and beers and short time hotels cost in vietnam?
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2986886]I was not arguing at all. Are you cool or are you throwing a temper tantrum for no reason. I cannot tell from the tone of your text. Hopefully you are chill and worth to talk to.
The site I linked is recent. The quote I put from here is recent, like from last December. You could be right, I could be wrong, or vice versa. We are learning from each other, hopefully.[/QUOTE]OK real talk. Yes Medellin is cheaper than Tijuana but not like you think. I would say around 20% overall at most. It is also a lot more dangerous, especially if you don't know how to operate. And you are not going to get a hotel room for $8. 89. In Tijuana you can find a cheap hotel room and do street putas but its not as nice as staying in Cascadas or Rizo and doing hot HK girls. Not even close.
Trying to figure out when the full Miami area is open. Is it Thursday through Saturday or is it also open Sundays?
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2986948]OK real talk. Yes Medellin is cheaper than Tijuana but not like you think. I would say around 20% overall at most. It is also a lot more dangerous, especially if you don't know how to operate. And you are not going to get a hotel room for $8. 89. In Tijuana you can find a cheap hotel room and do street putas but its not as nice as staying in Cascadas or Rizo and doing hot HK girls. Not even close.[/QUOTE]5-star hotel in Medellin 600 a week. Includes breakfast & much nicer than anything in Tijuana. Cheap studio in Laureles (still 3-4 star) $300 / week. Cheaper? Bad idea. FB girls 1/2 the cost 2 x the looks) of Tijuana but lots of risk to newbies. . SW whole range of options and very dangerous for newbies. Club gurls. Same as HKTJ but negotiating time very easy. Nobody does 30 min or less meetings. Except in El Centro. Don't go there.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2987399]5-star hotel in Medellin 600 a week. Includes breakfast & much nicer than anything in Tijuana. Cheap studio in Laureles (still 3-4 star) $300 / week. Cheaper? Bad idea. FB girls 1/2 the cost 2 x the looks) of Tijuana but lots of risk to newbies. . SW whole range of options and very dangerous for newbies. Club gurls. Same as HKTJ but negotiating time very easy. Nobody does 30 min or less meetings. Except in El Centro. Don't go there.[/QUOTE]Which 5 star hotels? Can you bring girls in? Is there a charge per guest? I want to stay in one.
Hi, I usually go to Thailand or Singapore (Viet girls) to monger, but it would be easy enough for me to get to Tijuana and go to HK club.
I am not attracted to the typical larger breast / ass Latina girl and prefer slim girls with natural bodies. Occasionally I encounter Latina girls that look like that and they are perfect.
Are there such girls at HK club?
[QUOTE=Xnxx1;2987407]Hi, I usually go to Thailand or Singapore (Viet girls) to monger, but it would be easy enough for me to get to Tijuana and go to HK club.
I am not attracted to the typical larger breast / ass Latina girl and prefer slim girls with natural bodies. Occasionally I encounter Latina girls that look like that and they are perfect.
Are there such girls at HK club?[/QUOTE]Yes there are slim and downright tiny girls at HK. I agree that is preferred. Lots of variety there in terms of age and body type.
[QUOTE=Xnxx1;2987407]Hi, I usually go to Thailand or Singapore (Viet girls) to monger, but it would be easy enough for me to get to Tijuana and go to HK club.
I am not attracted to the typical larger breast / ass Latina girl and prefer slim girls with natural bodies. Occasionally I encounter Latina girls that look like that and they are perfect.
Are there such girls at HK club?[/QUOTE]There are hundreds of girls to choose from on a busy weekend. You will find one that works for you. Just take a visit and check it out.
[QUOTE=Guardman;2987436]There are hundreds of girls to choose from on a busy weekend. You will find one that works for you. Just take a visit and check it out.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the encouragement. I think ill go on a wed or thurs the first time. I don't do well with crowds of horny men.
I popped into HK for an hour or so tonight just because I was bored with no intention of arriba. Decent mix of girls, about what you expect on a Tues night. Not at all a fan of the new smoking rule for Miami, that area is now ruined.
Bought a drink for a tiny little chica called 'Yessi'. She tried to order the wine, I put a stop to it. She apologized saying it was her first day and she didn't understand everything yet. Hmm. In any case she was fun in the booth, nice lap dance, kissed my neck and was fine with lots of touching. Spoke a bit of english but the conversation was a bit forced. If it wasn't for the rock hard bolt ONS I probably would have had to take her up. I got her whatsapp and might have to anyway. She said she lives in Mexico city and is there for 7 days. If you are into tiny bodies and a pretty face, you should check her out.
I had made arrangements to meet up with one of my favoritas yesterday but she said she would be running a little late so I hung out at HK for a while. Talent was ok, not great but not bad either. Took a seat at a table and noticed a very pretty girl from a distance. Going off simply looks she could pass for being American with hazel eyes. Seems to be about 5'5" without heels, very skinny with probably a small B cup and just enough of a curve on her ass for it not to be flat. Straight brown hair a little bit passed her shoulders. She was easily the prettiest girl in the entire place kind of resembling a young Natalie Portman. Definitely hadn't seen her before. Only thing was she looked kind of stuck up, like a princess type. But sometimes looks can be deceiving, maybe she was a cool girl? I continued studying her from afar and eventually an Asian guy who looked like the lead character from Squid Game invited her for a drink. They seemed to be getting along well as she was being very friendly and putting her arms around him. Even gave him some kisses on the cheek. I guess she's friendly after all. They were drinking for a while so I figured they weren't going anywhere anytime soon so I took off to see who else was around. A little later on I saw them going arriba. Of course, I thought. I should have grabbed her when I had the chance. Oh well.
Hung out some more talking a to a couple girls I know, killing time still waiting for my other chica. I ended up taking a seat again and the pretty girl from before passed by my table. I got up to chase her down before somebody else snatched her up. I introduced myself and asked if she would like to sit for a drink, she said sure. We sat down and she said her name was Maribel. I asked how old she was and she said 21, which I believed to be true. She could even pass for 19 or 20. I was crossing my fingers hoping she wouldn't want to order the little wine bottle, because she definitely looks like that type, thankfully she ordered some kind of mixed drink that was regular priced. I asked how long she had been working at the club and she said one week. Unfortunately she said she will be leaving back home tomorrow. I asked when she would be back and she said she didn't know because she didn't really like working there. She said it was just something she always wanted to try out and now that she has, she thinks it's probably not for her. I said surely you must be making a good amount of money at least and she said yes but that she wasn't sure this was the line of work she wanted to be in for the long haul. She said she works at a high end women's boutique back home and it's a job she enjoys.
Since it was getting close to my other chica arriving, I asked if she was into girls and she said no. I said not even if someone were to offer you $200 to be with one and she said it would still be a no and that women didn't turn her on at all. I said fair enough. Sometime during all of this she hopped on my lap and we interlocked hands. I went in for a couple of kisses which she allowed but no DFK. After her second drink she asked if I would like to take her arriba. Of course I did but already had a girl on the way. If I didn't I probably would have taken her back to my room with no negotiation and taken the risk of her hopefully accepting whatever I gave her, which in this case would have probably been $120. Since I knew I wasn't taking her arriba, I asked how much, since it really didn't make a difference either way and she said $150. Damn. I just nodded and said maybe later after I was done with my other chica if she was still around. She said ok and to just let her know. About 15-20 minutes later I saw her heading arriba with a well dressed white guy in his late 30's, early 40's. I'm not going to lie, even though her quote was a little higher than usual I kind of regret not banging her. She's definitely a trophy fuck if I ever saw one. A real knock out. Didn't see her again after that. If I ever see her around again I'll invite her for another drink and see how it goes from there, but she might be a one and done. I think I'll be thinking about this one for a while.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2987640] I asked how long she had been working at the club and she said one week. Unfortunately she said she will be leaving back home tomorrow. I asked when she would be back and she said she didn't know because she didn't really like working there. She said it was just something she always wanted to try out and now that she has, she thinks it's probably not for her. I said surely you must be making a good amount of money at least and she said yes but that she wasn't sure this was the line of work she wanted to be in for the long haul. She said she works at a high end women's boutique back home and it's a job she enjoys.[/QUOTE]I doubt this was the first time she ever worked as a prostitute. Pretty much all of the girls I see in other cities in Mexico from club girls to escorts they all bring up HK and what it's like and many claim to have worked there.
I know that you weren't there to believe everything she says and could care less if what she said was true. Also with HK being the major leagues of bars I do think some girls can't handle the craziness of it and realize no matter the money it's not worth it.
[QUOTE=Sol12;2987671]I doubt this was the first time she ever worked as a prostitute. Pretty much all of the girls I see in other cities in Mexico from club girls to escorts they all bring up HK and what it's like and many claim to have worked there.
I know that you weren't there to believe everything she says and could care less if what she said was true. Also with HK being the major leagues of bars I do think some girls can't handle the craziness of it and realize no matter the money it's not worth it.[/QUOTE]I could see her possibly working for an escort agency back home since she lives in a big city. She looks too proper to be working at HK. I believe when she says it was her first time working there though, I definitely would have remembered if I had ever seen her around before.
Caught myself reading here while sitting in HK and thought WTF are you doing enjoy your time instead of reading ISG.
Is it hard to find the shuttle to HK after walking across the border? Also, is there a time limit on the shuttle or is it every 15 minutes all 24 hrs a day?
And has walking back across the border to the US been a long line or anything with all the stuff going on at the border lately?
Lastly, do you yall recommend parking car at the paid parking lot in San Ysidiro or just ubering to the border from San Diego? I'll be staying in San Diego.
When a brotha sends a group text that he needs a drink cause him and his girl are getting a Divorce, it's a like a bat signal that can be seen all the way to the east coast. You make sure you are there regardless of where you are at in the country or the world in fact to make sure you are there to comfort him with Don Julio and your choice of chica to make him forget about his ex wife and problems.
This was a weekday, the club was empty as f ck and a distant memory of what it used to look like on weekdays of what I remember. Briefly popped into Chicago and 9 girls, 5 guys at around 930 pm. Sad. Tropical had about 30 girls looking bored.
Known this brotha for a while and music connects us and it resonates with us to remind us of the times in our lives. If you have ever had electric guitar solos and heavy deep Ballads touch your soul to remind you of where you are or where you were at in a certain time in your life- you know that the music brings a good healing or cleansing of some sort. Sometimes you got to explore those tough times and how you climbed out of that black hole to remind you of the strengths of where you are at today. I'm If you understand listening to Scorpians Always Somewhere in the Middle of sea or Nothing Else matters in another 3rd world country reminiscing about shit, cheers to you brotha. These ballads play time and time again at Hk and sometimes you need some time on your own, everybody needs some time on their own. Get back to this later.
Anyhow, don Julio flowed the whole night. Remind you again, this was a weekday but we were there for the brotha. We bought food for girls to eat and soon our section filled with chicas like it was a watering hole for wild animals. The abundance of life flourished in our specific section. 2 girls looked from the distance smiling but shy to approached so I offered them chips with tapatillo hot sauce but they wanted slices of pizza. Shy and flirty they were, both from Guadalajara one with white smooth milky skin and the other tanner with lots of tattoos like kat von the. Both under 24. One with glasses the other without. Before asking me to buy a drink- which I would have bought both one- they impatiently joked and asked for a threesome. I chuckled knowing I've played this game before and now I just saved by not having to buy these 2 a drink. They both gave their game up right away and of course I ask how much each but instead of saying it out loud, I told them to each say it to my left ear and the other the right.
Tatted one says 140, the other chicasays Cein 100. I look at the tatted one with a disappointed look on my face like wtf girl, you f cked up. Told her gracias and enjoy your night. Take the other girls hand and ask her what she would like to drink? I told her order a champagne if you'd like but I told her I'm only giving her 80 for arriba if she does. She orders a little beer knowing she is almost guaranteed on a slow night and pretty much is a good vibe. Sat on my lap and didn't get off when meseros kept give her the eye. Fast forward to when I take her to the room finally.
She was amazed by our room like she had never been into this type of room like it was a new level unlocked for her. Explored her body and felt her curves, read and viewed her tattoos which were more subtle and sexy but doing so just got both of us horny. She was impatient and wanted it right away. Young girls. But here is why this girl was memorable and added to my list to repeat aside from all the things that made me want her again. She took me by surprise when things started heating up, she had a light bulb moment in her head and basically stopped everything, got up and said "vebrador" . Had a Dave Chappelle look on my face like wtf you say girl? I thought she wanted to do some kind of drug or take a shot but She runs to her bag and grabs a bullet vibrator- "the vebrador" shook my head and Laughed out loud like ok. Surprise MF! I got this toy we can play with or I can play with. She was so happy and excited to whip it out and I really think shejust got this thing. She put that shit on her pussy and wow, thing got super soaker wet and grippy. So I'm thinking she's going to leave that shit on there til she cums or just to use as a fire starter. Nope she used that thing in all positions, the whole time and was feeling it too damn much. Orgams after orgasm. Put it on my nipple, her nipple but then right back to her spot. At some point, my dick was getting numb and losing some kind of feeling due to the vibration. I'm trying to take it off but she keeps putting that shit back on to a point where I'm just mad f cking her cause she won't take that vebrador off and it's make my dick numb but I guess I'm getting harder and harder and she's loving it more and more. Ok wow. Ya. Type 3 sex kind of chica right here. (Refer to my 4 kinds of chicas sex types post) I finished so hard and let out the biggest sex war cry of my life- and I am dam serious about this. They say you can hear a lions roar 25 miles away. Well you prolly heard my finish from down the hall on the same floor. Ya! I just didn't give a f ck and mad for some reason cause at this point I can't even feel my dick anymore although it might have been the biggest its ever been in my life at climax. Man. We layed there after both in bed, sweaty, cuddling and I ended taking a 5 minute cat nap and woke up to her wiping my off cold sweat. Such service and I was impressed.
Felt like she deserved more than what she asked for based on her services. Pooled the money I had in my pockets, pesos to dollars. Large and small bills. I told her to pick her propina with her eyes closed. Of course she peeked and pretending to pick out 2 but I smiled and told her that was both hers. She screamed like she won a prize that I made sort of fun for her. I too had fun giving. She hugged me naked and jumped onto like she was the prize. But I had the brilliant idea ask her for pics, of that cute butt. She posed and posed and grabbed my phone and took selfies to a point where I was like I only wanted one back butt pic, not an onlyfans gallery. Never will I share these. The butt was to damn perfect. The smile and jubilation on her face justified how great it was for her to be a puta and paid for doing what she loves. Her peak of feeling appreciated. Not going to say how much cause I know dummys here will trip over what the 2 bills were and I paid, blah blah. No this doesn't mess up the market- paying what a girl initially asks does. What you pay above is not expected and is out of your generosity. It shows your respect and appreciation and I've always said some girls deserve more than what they are worth- end of discussion there.
We go back to the club, ask her if she wants a drink, and she tells masero, "Frep". Again I'm like wtf did you just order. I ask her to explain and masero says Azul? She explains it's caf-ee. A dam frappacino is what she wanted. LOL. This girl basically wanted a dessert after that wild ass ride. Typical civie type chick. Craving something sweet. If your girl ever orders a frap, this is less than a girl drink and I'll order this all day for any girl if I could. We stayed in our section for about 2 hrs. Club was empty so she stayed rubbing my back lightly and ran her hands up and down my back and arms as I enjoyed my time catching up with bros I hadn't seen in a minute for the bros the Day. She was good company after and dedicated.
On a side note, now I get a full glimpse of the friend who is now sitting with her on the opposite side, my goodness, she was gorgeous but no one took her up. She had one pity drink from someone at the table. She was my next target because her friend will tell her all about me unless but maybe I won't take her because dumb girls like this asking for 140 on a slow night don't deserve play while her friend made out $ and had a good time.
My chica stuck around long enough thinking she was going to be able to go back up for round 2 when all the guys went up, and I was ok to bring her up again- and at this point I thought I can name my price But around 3 am. The DJ. Plays November Rain to an almost empty club. The song flowed so well at first, the sound system at HK is amazing hitting the piano with orchestra notes and mids with equal amount of base, perfectly tuned. But when Axel Rose sang, "nothing last forever and we both know hearts can change" everyone said oh shit in their heads in almost perfect harmony and looked at our bro who was staring at big screen watching the music video in a deep thought while he pounded a shot of tequila. Like the DJ knew why we were here and just perfectly placed this song in our dream. Damn, if you can ever feel what a man is going through inside his head and just share in some pain, that was it and this was the song to describe it. We all felt that shit and someone finally yelled "eeeyyyyy" and poured out the rest of our bottles. Everything was a blurr after and all I remember was an almost euphoric uplifting feeling of a brotherhood bond with bros deeper than any bond with the background of Slash's Electric guitar solos of November Rain hitting your soul. Got to love the Qi of hk when you can share this moment and experience with long time bros who will be there for you on your the day, lose your V day, birthday and bachelor party. Any day. Highs and lows. End it right there.
[QUOTE=Trojan22;2987881]Is it hard to find the shuttle to HK after walking across the border? Also, is there a time limit on the shuttle or is it every 15 minutes all 24 hrs a day?
And has walking back across the border to the US been a long line or anything with all the stuff going on at the border lately?
Lastly, do you yall recommend parking car at the paid parking lot in San Ysidiro or just ubering to the border from San Diego? I'll be staying in San Diego.[/QUOTE]Take the Blue Line train.
[QUOTE=KyzrCccc;2986966]Trying to figure out when the full Miami area is open. Is it Thursday through Saturday or is it also open Sundays?[/QUOTE]Thursday to Sunday, 7 PM to probably 5 AM. Closed Monday, Tuesday and Wed. Others can correct me.
[QUOTE=Trojan22;2987881]
And has walking back across the border to the US been a long line or anything with all the stuff going on at the border lately?
[/QUOTE]What's going on at the border? I was just in Tijuana. Do you know something that we don't know?
[QUOTE=Trojan22;2987881]Is it hard to find the shuttle to HK after walking across the border? Also, is there a time limit on the shuttle or is it every 15 minutes all 24 hrs a day?
And has walking back across the border to the US been a long line or anything with all the stuff going on at the border lately?
Lastly, do you yall recommend parking car at the paid parking lot in San Ysidiro or just ubering to the border from San Diego? I'll be staying in San Diego.[/QUOTE]The Shuttle starts running around 3 PM and continue until 6 AM all week. This I know others can correct me. The regularity changes depending on traffic but I never had to wait more than 15 minutes both directions.
You will face long lines specially at the San Yisdro side unless you time it right, like early mornings. The Chaverral side is better but doesn't work 24 hrs. Check the schedule.
The paid parkings are good enough so long as you don't care for the money they charge, the price slightly changes depending how near or further away from the border you are. Don't park on the streets unless you know what you are doing. A buddy of mine who is local always parks on the streets for 2 nights and never had issues. You can also park in San Diego and then uber or use the train. Of course uber is faster and comfy but you pay a lot more. The blue line train is about $2. 50 and is very reliable as far as punctuality goes and drops and pick you up right at the San Yisdro border.
[QUOTE=Xnxx1;2987407]Hi, I usually go to Thailand or Singapore (Viet girls) to monger, but it would be easy enough for me to get to Tijuana and go to HK club.
I am not attracted to the typical larger breast / ass Latina girl and prefer slim girls with natural bodies. Occasionally I encounter Latina girls that look like that and they are perfect.
Are there such girls at HK club?[/QUOTE]Does Singapore have a good mongering scene? Is it easy to find Viet girls? How would you compare Singapore and Thailand? Thanks.
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;2988393]Does Singapore have a good mongering scene? Is it easy to find Viet girls? How would you compare Singapore and Thailand? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Take a look at the Singapore thread and I have some postings there. I use a similar name across boards I've also posted on other boards.
There are two famous bars (with usually good bands) Brix and Ipanema. Brix has gorgeous women (almost all 7+) at high prices. They are freelancers. Its just known this is where you go. The prettiest ones are Viets IMO. But you meet girls from everywhere. Ipanema is a step down in quality and price. Singapore has very expensive escort services, and on a lower end Geylang has brothels (Chinese / Viet / Thai).
You got it all, and its legal, and relaxed. But its an expensive city like London or New York.
My routine trip is to combine Singapore and Bangkok. I like both, they offer different things.
I read somewhere (I think), that Wednesday has some unusual events, and is not preferred. I can't find where I read that again. I am thinking about going Wednesday or Thursday.
When do the girls come in. I am thinking of going across the border after lunch and just relaxing a bit, then heading over to HK at 7 pm. Would honestly rather be done at 10 as it will take me 3 hours to go home. The alternative is committing to spending the night there.
I am not a big drinker, especially when i am in a place like this and I need to keep my wits about me.
If i have to wait till later for a good selection, Ill just spend the night in Tujuana, and go back home after a nice breakfast.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz7XsWuekwE&t=300s[/URL]
Have any of you come across AceBachelorCool's YouTubes?
I think he is hilarious. About the same content every video but he always changes something in each video.
He has been living there in A. See. For 3 years.
3 types of Girls:
Baby dolls.
Barbie dolls and.
Experienced Vets /30+.
I know this thread is T. J. , MEX but some other posts about Asia in here.
[QUOTE=Xnxx1;2988398]I read somewhere (I think), that Wednesday has some unusual events, and is not preferred. I can't find where I read that again. I am thinking about going Wednesday or Thursday.
When do the girls come in. I am thinking of going across the border after lunch and just relaxing a bit, then heading over to HK at 7 pm. Would honestly rather be done at 10 as it will take me 3 hours to go home. The alternative is committing to spending the night there.
I am not a big drinker, especially when i am in a place like this and I need to keep my wits about me.
If i have to wait till later for a good selection, Ill just spend the night in Tujuana, and go back home after a nice breakfast.[/QUOTE]Both Wednesdays and Thursdays are good. You are much better off spending a night there. You will face lines on the way out in the morning after breakfast. Use Chaparral if they are open.
[QUOTE=Xnxx1;2988398]I read somewhere (I think), that Wednesday has some unusual events, and is not preferred. I can't find where I read that again. I am thinking about going Wednesday or Thursday.
When do the girls come in. I am thinking of going across the border after lunch and just relaxing a bit, then heading over to HK at 7 pm. Would honestly rather be done at 10 as it will take me 3 hours to go home. The alternative is committing to spending the night there.
I am not a big drinker, especially when i am in a place like this and I need to keep my wits about me.
If i have to wait till later for a good selection, Ill just spend the night in Tujuana, and go back home after a nice breakfast.[/QUOTE]The events that take place on Wednesdays happen just once a month. This month it's the 12th and it's a bikini contest.
The girls come in starting around 8 am and your will see them arriving through out the day with the last ones usually starting at 10 pm. If you have nothing to do I'd suggest just going to HK after your lunch. You will have plenty of girls to look at and at that point you can decide if you want to stay the night. Remember the room for a 30 min session is $40, or you can get a room for all night for $90. So if you plan on going with more than one girl you might as well get a room for the night. That gives you the option of staying and being more rested for the drive home or if your bored at around 10 pm you can still leave.
You won't be disappointed in the selection of afternoon girls to the night girls it's just a different atmosphere. For a first timer I'd definitely suggest just spending most of the day and staying the night because it gives you more options.
[QUOTE=Trojan22;2987881]Is it hard to find the shuttle to HK after walking across the border? Also, is there a time limit on the shuttle or is it every 15 minutes all 24 hrs a day?[/QUOTE]My last visit was Sunday night / Monday morning and I arrived just before 2 am to the shuttle and they were stopping rides to HK at that time. So I doubt it's 24/7 but might be longer depending on how busy it is or day. From past memories or things written on this board the shuttle is easy to find after you walk into Mexico as long as you enter on the San Ysidro entrance. Since I was already in Mexico I just walked towards the border and eventually found it.
As far as giving rides back to the border they have longer hours if not 24/7.
[QUOTE=KyzrCccc;2986966]Trying to figure out when the full Miami area is open. Is it Thursday through Saturday or is it also open Sundays?[/QUOTE]I've never seen it open on Sunday night. The only exception to them opening on a Sunday might be on holiday weekends.
[QUOTE=Sol12;2988498]The events that take place on Wednesdays happen just once a month. This month it's the 12th and it's a bikini contest.
The girls come in starting around 8 am and your will see them arriving through out the day with the last ones usually starting at 10 pm. If you have nothing to do I'd suggest just going to HK after your lunch. You will have plenty of girls to look at and at that point you can decide if you want to stay the night. Remember the room for a 30 min session is $40, or you can get a room for all night for $90. So if you plan on going with more than one girl you might as well get a room for the night. That gives you the option of staying and being more rested for the drive home or if your bored at around 10 pm you can still leave.
You won't be disappointed in the selection of afternoon girls to the night girls it's just a different atmosphere. For a first timer I'd definitely suggest just spending most of the day and staying the night because it gives you more options.[/QUOTE]I would be thrilled if I could do an afternoon hangout, grab some dinner and then decide if I want to go back or not. Thank you so much.
I am a big fanof CDMX and Merida. I am not a fan of Zona Norte in Tijuana. Is there anything like this in other Mexican cities.
[QUOTE=Xnxx1;2988609]I am a big fanof CDMX and Merida. I am not a fan of Zona Norte in Tijuana. Is there anything like this in other Mexican cities.[/QUOTE]I'm not a fan of the area as well but unfortunately that's were the girls are. The good thing is that if yo decide to stay for a longer time in Tijuana you have nicer parts if the city to stay in or just stay in one of the nicest cities in the US that happens to be just on the other side of the border.
Others in this board have more experience in visiting a wide variety of cities in Mexico compared to myself. I'd suggest looking at TomJackin trip reports since he's been to every state in Mexico. For the most part nothing is like Tijuana. Toluca just outside CDMX has lots of clubs, MTY is popular but the clubs seem to attract trashy girls at least what I've seen on X. Most of the clubs in the Cancun area often get busted for trafficking girls so you never know if the girls are working freely or forced.
I enjoy Guadalajara because it has many clubs and they are in a nice part of the city but not as convenient as Tijuana. But the taxi or Uber is cheap that you can visit a few clubs for little or no cost. The problem is it's much more expensive to be with girls compared to Tijuana.
I was not sure if I was going to reply to people saying negative things about the Zona Norte but it is comical. Once a monger knows the game I can not imagine anywhere better. I do think there is a lot of fun in South American and Asia but the Zona Norte is great for those who know how to play the game that has been setup. To be fair my location is close to the Zona and this has assisted greatly in my skills in finding quality locas.
There are definitely some freak vibes going around HK.
Both of these girls had natural breasts. Firm and good sizes but the fact they were 100% natural with natural boobs and curves may not be for everyone. Saying this now because I think these two were 10 out of 10. I could see these girls walking the Victoria Secret run way.
A few weeks ago took this amazing hottie up to my room for $150. I do not typically do this much at the start but I have been known to tip up to this much and more. This girl was fantastic looks wise. Bona fide 10 depending on your exact tastes. I am not sure if her name is Lluvia or I made that up because when I saw her dancing the club was making it rain. Guys tipped her, girls tipped her and it was obvious this girl was beyond popular. So I took the $150 offer. She was well worth it. The clitoris does not like and I know this was all an act but this loca deserves a gold medal for her performance. If performance during sex was an Olympic sport I think I found the girl who would have the most gold medals. She gave me her number but as one would expect she rarely messages me back. She was not working for a while due to someone taking her on a holiday trip. It was amazing vacation for some dude I am sure. The charisma and fun this girl shows is top notch. Looks and attitude are rare to find.
The next week I was back and saw this girl I had seen before. In the past she wanted marijuana to have sex but I do not bring that to Tijuana. Forgot her name totally. This was early in morning after a lot of Don Julio and Mezcal. Her skin was more tanned like a girl from cancun. Dark hair, amazing face and body. If you like the light skin girls she may fall to a 8 out of 10 but for the rest of us she was a 10. I first noticed her dancing for another guy and she was rocking it like a true pro. I am not sure why this guy did not take her upstairs. As soon as she was free and back at bar I was with her. We quickly agreed to go upstairs. Another $150 girl. Like I said before the clitoris does not lie and this girl was loving what I was doing. We had fun for a long time. For whatever reason there is no knock on door. This one is a great dancer and she knows her value. She can speak English good enough. Really wish I remembered her name but I could find her easy again just by her looks and attitude.
I am probably not going to be in the clubs again for weeks maybe months depending on when my friends bring me back down. Too bad because there are some serious freak vibes going down in the clubs right now.
There are good girls asking 100-120. I am not trying to say mongers should raise their prices specially while the dollar is strong in relation to peso. What I am saying is sometimes the looks and attitude to merit accepting a higher figure.
Its been a while since I've gone back to Tijuana / HK and this is the first time where I'm considering not staying above in Cascadas.
Also hate the fact that they got rid of smoking inside the club a while back & having to tip everybody and their mother.
Some peace and quiet would be nice this time around when + I'm not fucking 24/7 anyways.
Has anyone ever had any luck bringing HK girls back to hotels off-site?
Or is that only possible when they're off their shift?
Apart from a telegram group I'm in is goodgirls technically the best there is for non HK / club girls? Or have you guys seen better?
Safe BBFS is ideal but not sure if that's ever guaranteed but as safe as possible is the highest priority.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Phazze93;2989319]Its been a while since I've gone back to Tijuana / HK and this is the first time where I'm considering not staying above in Cascadas.
Also hate the fact that they got rid of smoking inside the club a while back & having to tip everybody and their mother.
Some peace and quiet would be nice this time around when + I'm not fucking 24/7 anyways.
Has anyone ever had any luck bringing HK girls back to hotels off-site?
Or is that only possible when they're off their shift?
Apart from a telegram group I'm in is goodgirls technicallyThat kid has a rotten mouth. the best there is for non HK / club girls? Or have you guys seen better?
That kid has a rotten mouth.
Safe BBFS is ideal but not sure if that's ever guaranteed but as safe as possible is the highest priority.
That kid has a rotten mouth.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Getting rid of smoking is a good thing.
You can get the girls come off site and off shift to other hotels but really depends on your relationship and rapport with the girl, and of course how much you want to pay her to encourage her.
I don't do call girls at all so can't help you there. Call girls are hit or miss and is devoid of the festive and in person atmosphere you get in the clubs.
I always advise to stay away from BBFS with hookers.
[QUOTE=Phazze93;2989319]Its been a while since I've gone back to Tijuana / HK and this is the first time where I'm considering not staying above in Cascadas.
Also hate the fact that they got rid of smoking inside the club a while back & having to tip everybody and their mother.
Some peace and quiet would be nice this time around when + I'm not fucking 24/7 anyways.
Has anyone ever had any luck bringing HK girls back to hotels off-site?
Or is that only possible when they're off their shift?
Apart from a telegram group I'm in is goodgirls technically the best there is for non HK / club girls? Or have you guys seen better?.[/QUOTE]You can't take HK girls to your own hotel when they are working. Only off the clock.
No such thing as safe BBFS. The girl could have just passed a std test, and still be carrying something.
I am not going to tell other people what to do with their sex life. The assumptions that get tossed around on the internet are wild. Not talking about the post I quoted. it is a good point.
Do suggest people look into the risks and be aware as much as possible. Even sex with condom is not 100% safe. Part of some training I did year ago I was shown a LA Times article that said less than half of the people in the USA get tested for STIs / STDs. I did not dig into how good the data was. Point is who knows who is safe or not safe. Doctors will not even test for some things unless I push them for it. So there is a chance even if someone feels they asked their doctor for a screening the doctor did not check 100% for everything that can be checked unless they pushed their doctor for it.
Even if a monger feels they have the most protected sex, they should get tested regularly. Shoot anyone having regular sex with anyone should get tested regularly. We should all be aware of our health status.
I know people who have been active for years with nothing caught. I know people who got one thing but it was curable. I know one guy who was active in the business about a year, always used condoms and got herpes from a high priced USA escort.
[QUOTE=Vegas2394;2989967]
No such thing as safe BBFS. The girl could have just passed a std test, and still be carrying something.[/QUOTE]
A lot of girls will see people outside the club. Even the two of the hottest locas I have had sex with had this option. One invited me to her birthday party in Rosarito but work dominated me that weekend. The other went on a 5 day vacation with some lucky dude.
It is probably no big deal to see a girl for a couple hours. I have spent the night with many girls. Gone on vacations with others. This requires more trust and I am very picky who I spend the night with. There is a whole routine I go through. Chemistry is important to me if we spending time together. I did a long vacation in Quintana Roo. What helped me feel more comfortable doing the road trips was having a girl with me who I really trusted and who spoke English for any jams I potentially would get into. Only saw one police check point the entire trip. She got us through it no problem.
Advice I saw on forums is solid. Remember these girls are working their job. If you ask them to see you outside the club either ask them to go on their days off or be prepared to pay for their time of work missed. Not just loss of income but these girls will get scolded (word they use translate to this) for not coming to work on a day they were supposed to be there. Some of these girls get free hotel room for working so many days so there are costs involved beyond just loss of propinas, drinks and sex upstairs. The really smart ones get their own apartment. Most of my Tijuana travel has been going to where a loca stays to pick her up. As much trash as people talk about Tijuana there are some decent areas I would feel safe living in.
With all this said one of the girls I know at HK and one of her friends that introduced herself to me on IG do not even work Saturdays for the most part. They avoid the craziness in the club and do meets ups outside the club Saturday. There are many options available. They both do anal and one of my wingmen really wants to see one if not both of them but he keeps missing them on Saturday.
Bottom line is money talks. These girls are business locas and looking to earn money.
Do not get your feelings hurt if they say no. They have their reasons. This is business. Find another one.
[QUOTE=Phazze93;2989319]Its been a while since I've gone back to Tijuana / HK and this is the first time where I'm considering not staying above in Cascadas.
Also hate the fact that they got rid of smoking inside the club a while back & having to tip everybody and their mother.
Some peace and quiet would be nice this time around when + I'm not fucking 24/7 anyways.
Has anyone ever had any luck bringing HK girls back to hotels off-site?
Or is that only possible when they're off their shift?
Apart from a telegram group I'm in is goodgirls technically the best there is for non HK / club girls? Or have you guys seen better?
Safe BBFS is ideal but not sure if that's ever guaranteed but as safe as possible is the highest priority.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hadez;2990141]I am not going to tell other people what to do with their sex life. The assumptions that get tossed around on the internet are wild. Not talking about the post I quoted. it is a good point........[/QUOTE]I guess I'm the last person who should be advocating to avoid BBFS. I always use a condom but I do indulge in DATY. If the girl is stunningly hot and clean I dive in. Its very hard for me to resist that. Afterwards I feel a little disgusted with myself. Its like the guy who knows that Coke (Coca Cola) is bad for him and drink it anyway because of the taste and to hell with associated health problems. If the girl is hot I know I shouldn't but its hard to resist in the heat of the action.
One of the people I know who BBFS sex workers like crazy and has not gotten anything tells me he thinks he is special. I dunno maybe he is. He gets tested all the time to show these girls to convince the ones who are not sure if they should do it. Like I said there is another former monger I know who got herpes using a condom with a near four figure high end USA escort. He was in the hobby about a year. Some people want to post like STIs / STDs only exist in lower income countries.
What I am really talking about is the girls. If they do something with one monger you better believe she is doing it with others. I am not going to say these girls do not get certain feelings for some guys, they do. Thing is these girls need money and if they willing to do something for one guy for money they will do it for another guy with money. When I first started getting sex workers I would ask them how much more for no condom after the sex was done. Sex was done, I did not really want it. I just wanted to see how far they would go for money. Lets just say the knowledge of what girls would do and how much got me to stop asking this question. Times and inflation have changed things but lets just say $20 went a real long way at one time not too long ago.
One of the issues I have with this discussion on the internet is the lack any any nuisances of the details of the actual science or the details of the people involved. I know it is easy to just put everything into 2-3 categories and assume everything falls into one of these categories. I get life is easier for some who want to do this. The bottom line though is for those who want to invest the time and effort, life is much much more complex. For me, life is rewarding knowing as many details as possible.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2990210]I guess I'm the last person who should be advocating to avoid BBFS. I always use a condom but I do indulge in DATY. If the girl is stunningly hot and clean I dive in. Its very hard for me to resist that. Afterwards I feel a little disgusted with myself. Its like the guy who knows that Coke (Coca Cola) is bad for him and drink it anyway because of the taste and to hell with associated health problems. If the girl is hot I know I shouldn't but its hard to resist in the heat of the action.[/QUOTE]
Back to what my post was suppose to start. Opportunities for fun.
I went Thursday and the talent was new and out of this world. I had thought maybe I would see one of these girl I been having fun with in 2025 but none of them were in the HK. Man there were so many more good ones.
Something I saw was this super hot blonde spinner with a female client for a good 1 hour. She had an amazing smile and seemed to be a lot of fun. I saw her again later but the girl was either super drunk or maybe more. She was having a hard time standing up. A HK worker escorted her to the top dressing room. Hope to see her another time.
It is crazy to think we may know a lot of girls in the club at any given time but on Thursday for whatever reason there are a whole bunch of new ones ready to give good customer service to clients.
[QUOTE=Vegas2394;2989967]No such thing as safe BBFS. The girl could have just passed a std test, and still be carrying something.[/QUOTE]The girls in HK are pretty clean. I know there is no reason why they should be, but for some reason, they are. I've used myself as a Guinea pig to test this over and over again for years. You can take this with a grain of salt though. I'm probably just lucky, or maybe it's the fact that I'm immortal.
Here's to living dangerously! Cause really, do you want to live forever?
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2990782]The girls in HK are pretty clean. I know there is no reason why they should be, but for some reason, they are. I've used myself as a Guinea pig to test this over and over again for years. You can take this with a grain of salt though. I'm probably just lucky, or maybe it's the fact that I'm immortal.
Here's to living dangerously! Cause really, do you want to live forever?[/QUOTE]Never get too comfortable. And if you do, don't lie to yourself. There's always a risk in catching something.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2990782]The girls in HK are pretty clean. I know there is no reason why they should be, but for some reason, they are. I've used myself as a Guinea pig to test this over and over again for years. You can take this with a grain of salt though. I'm probably just lucky, or maybe it's the fact that I'm immortal.
Here's to living dangerously! Cause really, do you want to live forever?[/QUOTE]People who are caught special by terminal ones never say, I got one. Most guys in the zona hobby keep going, specially because there is no control. I sex clubs like we have in the zona required guys to have test certificates to enter but they don't. My assumption is, if a girl suddenly stop showing working, either she has better pastures somewhere or she got worse things.
Has anyone heard the working girls are afforded to have PrEP injections in Tijuana?
I read this online. Basically says it is offered free if qualify for certain requirement.
En Tijuana, México, la PrEP (Profilaxis Pre-Exposiciķn) se ofrece de forma gratuita por el Instituto Mexicano del Seguro Social (IMSS) a sus derechohabientes, así como en algunas CLínicas why organizaciones de la sociedad civil.
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IMSS: Si eres derechohabiente del IMSS, puedes obtener la PrEP de forma gratuita en las unidades médicas del IMSS.
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Here's to living dangerously! Cause really, do you want to live forever? - None of us will. Have fun!
Sex workers in Tijuana are more clean than any other sex worker I have encountered anywhere else in multiple countries. I laugh at those who judge people based on perception of the country. Some of these girls are relatively safe.
With that said, there is still risk. No one is 100% without risk even with protection.
Those hot girls I talked about earlier down for anything. That risk is nuclear level because I know one of them is rarely in the club. She is ALWAYS upstairs. Probably doing the same thing with every single guy. With her looks, her performance and her willingness to do anything I am sure she is selling beers like mad as guys do not want her to leave their room but the club knocks on the door of the room she is in.
Dunno which girls were in one of the premium rooms I walked by near the elevator but the waiter got the dude to agree to buy $300 in beers last Saturday in Feb.
I seen the tips the sexy girl down for anything makes while dancing. I am certain the beers are flowing and the dirty sex is going all night. Dudes probably go home broke af with credit cards maxed out with that one hahaha. Check out the song Bad Habit. I am certain some have fallen into her trap.
My wingman gets drained by sexy girls who do anal. He does wild things. I thought he got past his n00 b days before COVID but this one loca who was willing to do both of us at same time made a hard run at all his cash one night. Some weed, some coca, a friend of hers and my wingman comes to me hours before we supposed to leave broke af hahaha. Not even going to share how much money he spent on those two.
So yea. Some of these girls nasty af. All good. It makes some guys happy. I am sure these guys will be on their deathbed remembering the wild times they had. Maybe with a "gift" that can not be cured. I hear there are homes in Florida these kind of people can retire to.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2990782]The girls in HK are pretty clean. I know there is no reason why they should be, but for some reason, they are. I've used myself as a Guinea pig to test this over and over again for years. You can take this with a grain of salt though. I'm probably just lucky, or maybe it's the fact that I'm immortal.
Here's to living dangerously! Cause really, do you want to live forever?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2990782]The girls in HK are pretty clean. I know there is no reason why they should be, but for some reason, they are. I've used myself as a Guinea pig to test this over and over again for years. You can take this with a grain of salt though. I'm probably just lucky, or maybe it's the fact that I'm immortal.
Here's to living dangerously! Cause really, do you want to live forever?[/QUOTE]I don't even know where to begin with the logical abortion on display here.
The girls in HK are pretty clean? This is a Mexican brothel and these girls are basically independent contractors. They run the gamut from fresh out of the village to lifers who will die coked up and diseased before they hit 30. HK doesn't have some monopoly on hooker chastity and good decision making. It's just a brothel. It's a business model.
And nobody wants to live forever. But that's not the point. I want to live long enough to enjoy life, and I want to enjoy sex, and I want to do so with a dick that is free from lesions, warts, and other recurring life altering and experience shattering stuff. It has literally nothing to do with wanting to live forever.
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2990988]I don't even know where to begin with the logical abortion on display here.
The girls in HK are pretty clean? This is a Mexican brothel and these girls are basically independent contractors. They run the gamut from fresh out of the village to lifers who will die coked up and diseased before they hit 30. HK doesn't have some monopoly on hooker chastity and good decision making. It's just a brothel. It's a business model.
And nobody wants to live forever. But that's not the point. I want to live long enough to enjoy life, and I want to enjoy sex, and I want to do so with a dick that is free from lesions, warts, and other recurring life altering and experience shattering stuff. It has literally nothing to do with wanting to live forever.[/QUOTE]Well, the level of virtue signaling on this board has really gotten out of hand. Someone has to play devil's advocate.
The amazing thing to me is how many of the girls also like to live dangerously. I expect guys to be more horn-dogs and lack self control. You would expect girls to be more cautious, but they're not. It's the thrill of it, for both men and women.
Was in the club a few weeks ago on Monday. Was probably 4 or 5 am in the morning when I finally saw a girl I liked and invited her to my table.
This girl was from Puebla, which is a problem. For some reason, I can't understand anything that girls from Puebla are saying. I know this because there was another girl from Puebla and I had the same problem. My Spanish skills are decent, and some speakers I can understand perfectly, but apparently people from Puebla either talk too fast, or slur their words, or have a manner of speaking that I am not accustomed to, or all of the above. I'm not sure if people from Puebla have an actual accent because I'm not at the level where I can detect accents that easily, outside of, say, Castilian, or something obvious.
Anyway, I had to ask her to repeat almost everything she was saying two or three times. This girl liked to talk, too, and was telling me all about her boring life in Puebla, of which I understood about 60%. She kept going on and on about these fruity vodka drinks that they have at some rustic bar down there and telling me I need to go there and try one, or, at least, that's what I think she was saying.
After a while I cut to the chase and I asked her to accompany me to the room. So she starts with, "It's 150 or what you can afford. " (Or something to that effect) If you know me from previous posts, you know I don't like to negotiate or discuss the price beforehand. I told her that it's not about the amount, just that I don't like to talk about the price, and was about to send her off when she says to me, "you know what, I want you anyway so let's just go". Well that changes everything and we are off to the room.
So, she lived up to expectations, which means she gave me girlfriend sex without restrictions. Another thing about girls from Puebla is that they'are absolute freaks. The only downside is that she made a lot of noise during sex, which I actually don't like. Maybe some guys like that, but not me. I find it a bit fake. At one point I wanted to tell her to be quite, but I didn't because I didn't want to hurt her feelings. LOL.
She's a cute girl. She told me she was 20 and looks about that. Not a 10 but kind of a slutty girl next door type, which is basically what I like. Not enough to be regular material though. I didn't get her number because I wasn't that interested in seeing her again. There's another girl there who has the qualities I look for to see outside the club. I haven't done that in a while, but if it happens, I'll tell you the story. I ended up giving this girl slightly more than 150, which is what I pay for GFE.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2991160]Well, the level of virtue signaling on this board has really gotten out of hand. Someone has to play devil's advocate.
The amazing thing to me is how many of the girls also like to live dangerously. I expect guys to be more horn-dogs and lack self control. You would expect girls to be more cautious, but they're not. It's the thrill of it, for both men and women.[/QUOTE]That's the first time in my life I've been accused of virtue signaling. I am not exactly what you'the call woke.
Well, we have to acknowledge we see things differently. Living dangerously and the thrill of it, if it means bare sex with a prostitute, gracias pero no. I wish more people saw fit to cover it up. The reality is if you do this long enough, and I've been doing it a long time, you're going to get burned with something you can't cure. It's not 100%, but it's a pretty high likelihood. Sucks but it's the price of this lifestyle. And bagging it up is IMHO a small price in the grand scheme of things to have a regular unending stream of Latina vixens riding your dick. It's having your cake and eating it too.
One of these girls was asking for condom. I put it on the table by her head. We started to get into it. When I was ready I reached for the condom and had it out of the package. Mean while she grabbed my dick and was putting it inside her. This loca stays in my room for almost 2 hours. Invites me to her birthday party. These locas are beyond wild and fun.
Keep in mind the risk for the girls. They do get tested. If they catch something it will affect their ability to make money. Yet there are so many locas willing to do so much.
In San Diego and Los Angeles these 304's are beyond dumb. The amount of girls who think guys actually poke holes in condoms is ridiculous. Some of these girls bring the weakest dollar store condoms and expect the client to use it. Locas in the club will let guys run their pussy on stage for dollar or two. I give more than a couple dollars. 304's in USA will not even be happy if a guy tips them $20.
The virtue signaling on internet forums is also something else. Reminds me of the religious people working the Los Angeles Blade trying to save the 304's. They need to listen to No Role Modelz / J Cole. "Don't save her, she don't want to be saved".
All I know if these latina locas have me cum fast like 911 in a white neighborhoods. Lame mongers can't tell the difference, one time for a monger who knows.
Es una loca yeah.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2991160]Well, the level of virtue signaling on this board has really gotten out of hand. Someone has to play devil's advocate.
The amazing thing to me is how many of the girls also like to live dangerously. I expect guys to be more horn-dogs and lack self control. You would expect girls to be more cautious, but they're not. It's the thrill of it, for both men and women.[/QUOTE]
Has anyone taken a girl from the club for more than one hour in the room? What kinds of rates do you pay?
Well here, in this case, you post was virtue signaling and very woke. This board doesn't need your opinion on how someone does things. Your be better off keeping this type of opinion to yourself. Instead, focus on writing actual intel like you have in the past. That's what we are here for, mongeriing and enjoying ourselves!
Happy mongering all!
[QUOTE=Hadez;2990969]Here's to living dangerously! Cause really, do you want to live forever? - None of us will. Have fun!
Sex workers in Tijuana are more clean than any other sex worker I have encountered anywhere else in multiple countries. I laugh at those who judge people based on perception of the country. Some of these girls are relatively safe.
With that said, there is still risk. No one is 100% without risk even with protection
So yea. Some of these girls nasty af. All good. It makes some guys happy. I am sure these guys will be on their deathbed remembering the wild times they had. Maybe with a "gift" that can not be cured. I hear there are homes in Florida these kind of people can retire to.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jwon3239;2992045]Has anyone taken a girl from the club for more than one hour in the room? What kinds of rates do you pay?[/QUOTE]
If a girl is on the clock, in most cases you will end up getting "the knock" near the 1 hour mark if you have your own room. If you don't have your own room you will get the knock at the 30 minute mark. If you want them for more than one hour I believe you can buy a bucket of beer for $50 and they will give you an additional 30 minutes.
Once in a while you'll get lucky and the guys who's job it is to knock on doors will lose track of time and slack off, allowing you more time with the girl. This happened to me a few days ago. I had my own room and a girl I know ended up staying for 2 hours. She was drunk and a little tired so she slept for a while after we had done the deed. We did get a knock around the 1 HR 15 min mark but she said she still didn't want to go back to work and to wait for a second knock, which luckily never came. She never brought up getting paid for the extra time. I think she was just thankful to have somewhere to rest.
You could also attempt to see them on their day off if you hit it off with them and have them see you off the clock. As far as what you pay them, it greatly varies. Some will want extra, some will be cool with whatever you usually give them. Personally I have never paid a girl extra cash for them to stay for more than 1 hour. I have had girls see me for 3-4 hours at a time for just their standard fee. The key to this is to get a girl who likes to have fun and isn't a clock watcher. I'm sure plenty of guys here have had the same thing happen. If a girl likes to get high, bring them some pre rolls. If she likes to drink, find out what her favorite drink is and have it ready for her when she arrives. If she likes to snort coke, go buy some from a dealer in the alley (just kidding of course). But having shit they like will easily buy you more time with them and gives them more of a reason to hang out with you. These are party girls after all.
[QUOTE=Jwon3239;2992045]Has anyone taken a girl from the club for more than one hour in the room? What kinds of rates do you pay?[/QUOTE]This question is very vague because many things come into the factor on what to expect to pay. It depends on the girl and what kind of business she gets. It depends on the night because the busier the night the more she will usually want. It also depends on you and how much connection she has with you and is willing to spend time with you for very little or she sees you as a mark and will try to get as much as possible.
In general if you are still new to HK and don't speak Spanish I'the expect to pay at least $150 an hour. Anything more than that would be up to you and if you think the girl is worth it. If your a cool guy and the girl is comfortable with you she might be willing to stay the whole night for that price but as Nothing said you have to be aware that the bar / hotel might want you to pay for more drinks if she is staying longer with you.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2992124]If a girl likes to get high, bring them some pre rolls. If she likes to drink, find out what her favorite drink is and have it ready for her when she arrives. If she likes to snort coke, go buy some from a dealer in the alley (just kidding of course). But having shit they like will easily buy you more time with them and gives them more of a reason to hang out with you. These are party girls after all.[/QUOTE]We are all adults and can do what we want but my advice to new guys is not to bring anything across the border that can get you in trouble. They are getting stricter and it's not worth bringing drugs across IMO.
Now if a girl likes to get high just give her the money and let her buy it unless you know someone. Coke is easy to buy in the club no need to go outside for it and risk getting stopped by the police.
Also some girls also like mushrooms.
[QUOTE=Sol12;2992152]We are all adults and can do what we want but my advice to new guys is not to bring anything across the border that can get you in trouble. They are getting stricter and it's not worth bringing drugs across IMO.
Now if a girl likes to get high just give her the money and let her buy it unless you know someone. Coke is easy to buy in the club no need to go outside for it and risk getting stopped by the police.
Also some girls also like mushrooms.[/QUOTE]You used your brain obviously in this response. People advising others to buy illicit drugs in Mexico is just out of wack. We have heard horrific stories over the years. I am not opposed to taking risks, but I am opposed to taking dumb risks.
[QUOTE=Mexidan;2992097]Well here, in this case, you post was virtue signaling and very woke. This board doesn't need your opinion on how someone does things. Your be better off keeping this type of opinion to yourself. Instead, focus on writing actual intel like you have in the past. That's what we are here for, mongeriing and enjoying ourselves!
Happy mongering all![/QUOTE]"Your be better off keeping this type of opinion to yourself. ".
Right on. Somethings are better kept close and tight to ones belt.
[QUOTE=Jwon3239;2992045]Has anyone taken a girl from the club for more than one hour in the room? What kinds of rates do you pay?[/QUOTE]In the past I had SG's and BG's come to my Hotel rooms outside of the zona, in Aqua Rio, in Ticuan even to the shitty Hotel Hacienda. Two girls came to Palacio Azteca together. The standard is usually 1 hour and the paying is that, an hour pay of $100 although most girls stayed over so I tipped them 20,40, 50. These are all Zona girls. One HK girl came to my room in Rizo after her shift ended around 9 PM and spent the whole night and left at dawn, I paid her $250. This girl I met in centro who was serving us at a Restaurant and Bar came to my room in Rizo, stayed 5 hours and I gave her $150 plus uber. Another girls who worked in a pool house in zona Rio asked I take her phone number, a modern looking girl, proper, elegant and articulate. She wanted a green card access from me for cash she was willing to pay. I declined.
One of the hottest girls in HK stayed up in my room for 2 hours with no knock on door. She asked for 150 but I gave her a tip. She earned it.
Another girl from Tropical came to my room, there was no knock but constant calling at 40 minutes. The guys at the front door scolded her and threatened her with $100 fine so staying too long.
I have not had a knock on my door asking for beer for a long time but it does happen. Last weekend in Feb 2025 saw a bar worker convincing a guy to buy $300 in beer to keep a girl in his room by the elevator.
A few years ago I was getting really close to a girl in one of these clubs. She told me the girl is the one who actually get these calls to the room going or the knock on the door. Have herd some guys claim the girls phone was off when they got the knock but what that girl said years ago to me fits my experiences 100%. I think the girl starts the calling / knocks on door.
Outside the club is a whole different thing. Had a girl spend the night with me for free once. She just wanted a night away. Other girls want $500 dollars for the night. There are many offers in between. Basically I pay for each sex session. Maybe the whole night she stays but the rate I pay is each time we have sex. Guys want more sex for less money. Girls want more money for less sex. Play the game best you can. If you get lucky and find a loca who wants sex all night keep her number and keep her happy because you know other guys will be too.
If someone is a good planner it is actually better deal to fly a girl in from a different city. Have had an out of town girl want $5000 pesos for 2 day visit. I paid for flight but she had no extra bags so was not much. I have done this for multiple girls from Monterrey and a few other cities. CDMX has a lot of girls. I met two in a very short visit there. One was my holiday loca for nearly 2 years.
[QUOTE=Jwon3239;2992045]Has anyone taken a girl from the club for more than one hour in the room? What kinds of rates do you pay?[/QUOTE]
Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one.
[QUOTE=Mexidan;2992097]Well here, in this case, you post was virtue signaling and very woke. This board doesn't need your opinion on how someone does things. Your be better off keeping this type of opinion to yourself. Instead, focus on writing actual intel like you have in the past. That's what we are here for, mongeriing and enjoying ourselves!
Happy mongering all![/QUOTE]
Agreed.
Alcohol is no problem.
Weed and drugs, If a police officer, or maybe even a club worker, catches someone with drugs that person better be ready to be searched and told they will go to jail if they do not pay a fine. One time a girl bought cocaine in club and tried to get me to sneak it into the hotel.
The girls like USA weed. I give them reasons I can not bring any. When a girl ask for anything that may result in a "fine" I tell her the fine is coming out of her money. That stops all the requests cold.
[QUOTE=Sol12;2992152]We are all adults and can do what we want but my advice to new guys is not to bring anything across the border that can get you in trouble. They are getting stricter and it's not worth bringing drugs across IMO.
Now if a girl likes to get high just give her the money and let her buy it unless you know someone. Coke is easy to buy in the club no need to go outside for it and risk getting stopped by the police.
Also some girls also like mushrooms.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hadez;2992743]If someone is a good planner it is actually better deal to fly a girl in from a different city. Have had an out of town girl want $5000 pesos for 2 day visit. I paid for flight but she had no extra bags so was not much. I have done this for multiple girls from Monterrey and a few other cities. CDMX has a lot of girls. I met two in a very short visit there. One was my holiday loca for nearly 2 years.[/QUOTE]True that. I befriended a girl on Facebook, forgot from where exactly she was but about 60 K. M out side of Guadalajara. We agreed for her to come in on Friday and leave Sunday night. I pay for all of her transportation and then $200 for her stay. Unfortunately I could not make it at the time due to work scheduling. Prior to that talked to her numerous times via video call on Wapp, talked to her mother and other relatives. Cool, country side people. She was exceptionally attractive.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2992433]In the past I had SG's and BG's come to my Hotel rooms outside of the zona, in Aqua Rio, in Ticuan even to the shitty Hotel Hacienda. Two girls came to Palacio Azteca together. The standard is usually 1 hour and the paying is that, an hour pay of $100 although most girls stayed over so I tipped them 20,40, 50. These are all Zona girls. One HK girl came to my room in Rizo after her shift ended around 9 PM and spent the whole night and left at dawn, I paid her $250. This girl I met in centro who was serving us at a Restaurant and Bar came to my room in Rizo, stayed 5 hours and I gave her $150 plus uber. Another girls who worked in a pool house in zona Rio asked I take her phone number, a modern looking girl, proper, elegant and articulate. She wanted a green card access from me for cash she was willing to pay. I declined.[/QUOTE]I just had a similar proposal. 10 K marriage K1 Visa. Which I also declined from a Colombian here in USA on tourist Vise which is difficult these days. (Russian girls pay a lot more) I admire these other adventures you've had & when I get there next month I would be interested is seeing if I might find similar options. In the past SA worked only slightly and girls from Adelita / hktj were infrequent. Any specific restaurants / areas or areas you found I should try? Feel free to pvt message.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2992933]I just had a similar proposal. 10 K marriage K1 Visa. Which I also declined from a Colombian here in USA on tourist Vise which is difficult these days. (Russian girls pay a lot more) I admire these other adventures you've had & when I get there next month I would be interested is seeing if I might find similar options. In the past SA worked only slightly and girls from Adelita / hktj were infrequent. Any specific restaurants / areas or areas you found I should try? Feel free to pvt message.[/QUOTE]For zona girls to come to your hotel outside their work hours, you need of course a whatsapp number and most importantly you need rapport. Once their is trust they will be safe and be treated well they will sacrifice their private time and come to see you. Onc thing that won't change is that they will still act like they are there to make money, you will still be seen as a John. Your approach doesn't change either, no matter what, you will see her as a working girl. Some SG's come to your hotel even during their work hours. I remember I walked one girl from the back of HK alley to Hotel espana (Now Rio Rita) and walked her back to her spot where she stood. I have multiple instances like this with SG's. BG's can't do this. You will have to meet them outside of their work schedule.
As for non working women, all of the occasions I have had was due to the subtle advances by the women. I catch that and go with it. The venue doesn't really matter. In centro there are numerous women who work in ligit establishments but secretly long for the dollar pie in the zona. Which means in centro if she shows you subtly she is interested means it is transactional. Care has to be taken though, not all are invitations, not all are transactional. I did make a mistake and learned. I thought a lady who had a small table selling cheap jewllery in one of the alleys in centro was open for action. She did give me her whatsapp number. I continue with the usual transactional talk, she sent me the picture of her boyfriend and said I should talk business and nothing else.
Outside of the zona, it is not like that. It will be a normal man woman interaction, although they would not mind gifts from you. If you are her type and she is available she will let you know ever so indirectly. You take things from there.
This whole thing is time consuming though, don't go to Tijuana and waste your time on this but if the opportunity comes grab it. We go to Tijuana to lay putitas, that is it. I love putitas, they excites me when they are all dolled up and have good feminine attitude.
[QUOTE=Hadez;2992743]One of the hottest girls in HK stayed up in my room for 2 hours with no knock on door. She asked for 150 but I gave her a tip. She earned it.
Another girl from Tropical came to my room, there was no knock but constant calling at 40 minutes. The guys at the front door scolded her and threatened her with $100 fine so staying too long.
I have not had a knock on my door asking for beer for a long time but it does happen. Last weekend in Feb 2025 saw a bar worker convincing a guy to buy $300 in beer to keep a girl in his room by the elevator.
A few years ago I was getting really close to a girl in one of these clubs. She told me the girl is the one who actually get these calls to the room going or the knock on the door. Have herd some guys claim the girls phone was off when they got the knock but what that girl said years ago to me fits my experiences 100%. I think the girl starts the calling / knocks on door.
Outside the club is a whole different thing. Had a girl spend the night with me for free once. She just wanted a night away. Other girls want $500 dollars for the night. There are many offers in between. Basically I pay for each sex session. Maybe the whole night she stays but the rate I pay is each time we have sex. Guys want more sex for less money. Girls want more money for less sex. Play the game best you can. If you get lucky and find a loca who wants sex all night keep her number and keep her happy because you know other guys will be too.
If someone is a good planner it is actually better deal to fly a girl in from a different city. Have had an out of town girl want $5000 pesos for 2 day visit. I paid for flight but she had no extra bags so was not much. I have done this for multiple girls from Monterrey and a few other cities. CDMX has a lot of girls. I met two in a very short visit there. One was my holiday loca for nearly 2 years.[/QUOTE]Are you using like FB or Seeking or Mexican Cupid to find these girls in Monterrey and the DF?
Some girls I met in Hong Kong and kept in contact with. A few from other clubs but mostly HK. If I meet a girl I like I try to get her number and keep in contact. Tijuana girls are the most convenient but always ask for the most $$ It is better to develop chemistry with girl from further away and fly her in. These flights do not cost much if one plans well.
Have also used Seeking Arrangement. It was a while ago. Met a few girls in CDMX this way. Unfortunately I was not there long because I could have packed my calendar full of girls from CDMX. Also met some girls on SA from Monterrey. Met some from Tijuana on SA but they asked me for more than club girls do.
These forums have sections for these different cities.
One thing I have learned over the years is there are girls all over Mexico needing money and willing to do sex work for it. I am sure there are many options out there I am not aware of. I am not a good looking guy nor am I good with spanish. I can get by with spanish but many times need to use translator. Still learning some of the common slang / short words these girls use.
I think they sense I am a good guy they can trust. I treat them with respect.
Guys will come on the forums talking about the success stories but there are many I filter out at the club. Maybe they not honest. Maybe weird things happen that trigger my monger sense. Some girls are fun upstairs but never make it to outside the club fun. Sometimes it is the girls decision.
[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2993131]Are you using like FB or Seeking or Mexican Cupid to find these girls in Monterrey and the DF?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hadez;2993599]Some girls I met in Hong Kong and kept in contact with. A few from other clubs but mostly HK. If I meet a girl I like I try to get her number and keep in contact. Tijuana girls are the most convenient but always ask for the most $$ It is better to develop chemistry with girl from further away and fly her in. These flights do not cost much if one plans well.
Have also used Seeking Arrangement. It was a while ago. Met a few girls in CDMX this way. Unfortunately I was not there long because I could have packed my calendar full of girls from CDMX. Also met some girls on SA from Monterrey. Met some from Tijuana on SA but they asked me for more than club girls do.
These forums have sections for these different cities.
One thing I have learned over the years is there are girls all over Mexico needing money and willing to do sex work for it. I am sure there are many options out there I am not aware of. I am not a good looking guy nor am I good with spanish. I can get by with spanish but many times need to use translator. Still learning some of the common slang / short words these girls use..[/QUOTE]Is SA not how you are finding these girls now?
[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2993723]Is SA not how you are finding these girls now?[/QUOTE]I probably would not pay to turn SA on again unless I went back to CDMX or Monterrey. I think it still could be used to find girls all over.
The club is probably the best place to meet girls. It is why my wingmen and I spent good amounts of money in the club on drinks. The girls are the most essential part, but they need a place to go.
[QUOTE=Hadez;2994705]I probably would not pay to turn SA on again unless I went back to CDMX or Monterrey. I think it still could be used to find girls all over.
The club is probably the best place to meet girls. It is why my wingmen and I spent good amounts of money in the club on drinks. The girls are the most essential part, but they need a place to go.[/QUOTE]Tinder works best for me as long as the metro search area has at least a quarter million population. There are so many nice girls in Tijuana and across Mexico who relish a good time. Sure, some will want money to cover the cost of a babysitter, taxi, etc but many don't expect a single peso, just dinner, drinks and a good fuck such as this one below.
Are there chicas available in late mornings, say 10 AM or later?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=BabeLove;2995220]Are there chicas available in late mornings, say 10 AM or later?.[/QUOTE]You know the amazing thing about this forum is that most questions you have asked are already answered. I understand not wanting to read back hundreds of pages but in your case you just had to take the time to read a few pages back for your answer.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2995367]Are you certain she was not fking Indians in the club while you were paying her?[/QUOTE]That's a very good point. Maybe she wasn't going as frequently but it's possible she was still going all this time LOL. Fckkkk.
I've read the reports. I've talked to girls. I'm just not understanding the $150 price. The place has a lot of customers but few clients is what I hear. As a result, these girls are raising prices to make up for having less clients (common Brasil terma logic from back in the day). Others are saying that so many gringos want girls with fake tits and BBLs that the price went up as more girls are paying for this surgery. I'm headed there in a week for a 10-day stay but what I'm reading makes me second guess this visit. No way I'm paying this in Cuba, Colombia, Brazil, not even Germany FKKs. Hell, the paraditas seem like a better choice than HK girls. This price point puts Tijuana, mexico as one of the highest riced places in the world for SW, up there with the USA and Japan.
If I'm reading things wrong, please correct me.
[QUOTE=Mexidan;2995530]I've read the reports. I've talked to girls. I'm just not understanding the $150 price. The place has a lot of customers but few clients is what I hear. As a result, these girls are raising prices to make up for having less clients (common Brasil terma logic from back in the day). Others are saying that so many gringos want girls with fake tits and BBLs that the price went up as more girls are paying for this surgery. I'm headed there in a week for a 10-day stay but what I'm reading makes me second guess this visit. No way I'm paying this in Cuba, Colombia, Brazil, not even Germany FKKs. Hell, the paraditas seem like a better choice than HK girls. This price point puts Tijuana, mexico as one of the highest riced places in the world for SW, up there with the USA and Japan.
If I'm reading things wrong, please correct me.[/QUOTE]A lot of girls will still accept $100 USD at HK but if you are willing to pay them $150 USD I'm sure they won't turn it down.
[QUOTE=Mexidan;2995530]I've read the reports. I've talked to girls. I'm just not understanding the $150 price. The place has a lot of customers but few clients is what I hear. As a result, these girls are raising prices to make up for having less clients (common Brasil terma logic from back in the day). Others are saying that so many gringos want girls with fake tits and BBLs that the price went up as more girls are paying for this surgery. I'm headed there in a week for a 10-day stay but what I'm reading makes me second guess this visit. No way I'm paying this in Cuba, Colombia, Brazil, not even Germany FKKs. Hell, the paraditas seem like a better choice than HK girls. This price point puts Tijuana, mexico as one of the highest riced places in the world for SW, up there with the USA and Japan.
If I'm reading things wrong, please correct me.[/QUOTE]The girls you pay $150 are usually those who give you a starfish service with bad attitude. Those who accept $100 will treat you much better. Make this a formula.
[QUOTE=Mexidan;2995530]I've read the reports. I've talked to girls. I'm just not understanding the $150 price. The place has a lot of customers but few clients is what I hear. As a result, these girls are raising prices to make up for having less clients (common Brasil terma logic from back in the day). Others are saying that so many gringos want girls with fake tits and BBLs that the price went up as more girls are paying for this surgery. I'm headed there in a week for a 10-day stay but what I'm reading makes me second guess this visit. No way I'm paying this in Cuba, Colombia, Brazil, not even Germany FKKs. Hell, the paraditas seem like a better choice than HK girls. This price point puts Tijuana, mexico as one of the highest riced places in the world for SW, up there with the USA and Japan.
If I'm reading things wrong, please correct me.[/QUOTE]Avoid making the mistake that HK is Tijuana. The mongering scene in Tijuana is so much wider and deeper than HK or the entire Zona Norte for that matter.
[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;2995686]Avoid making the mistake that HK is Tijuana. The mongering scene in Tijuana is so much wider and deeper than HK or the entire Zona Norte for that matter.[/QUOTE]Well from previous posts he supposedly knows Tijuana well and has been to bars outside the Zona and was going to visit others 2 years ago but he never writes any reports on things which always makes me suspicious.
I also have never heard anyone say that the customers in HK prefer fake girls. HK is full of spinners because that is what a majority of the customers want.
Just to add on to the discussion, don't just go around asking for quotes in HK. Talk to the girls for a little bit and then ask if they will go upstairs for $100. From my experiences, half the time they will say yes. Some might say it's not enough, but will accept $120. Very few will stand firm at 140/150. Which if they do, just move onto the next if that's too high for you. Sometimes you guys act like we're forced to pay these prices. Also don't just stick to HK. Go do some rounds of Chicago and Tropical where the girls are a lot more reasonable and open to fair offers.
Sometimes I'll just go off of vibes and will take them arriba without any discussion of money. If the session goes good I give them $120.
I think I have only had one girl, maybe two, ever ask for a little more after giving her that. If the session is bad (super rare) or mediocre I give them $100. The only time this was ever an issue was at Adelitas and I asked for a manager to step in and he surprisingly sided with me.
I also forgot to mention that with the peso continuing to fall to the dollar you will spend less paying in pesos because most girls might be quicker to accept 2000 pesos instead of you asking for $100.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2995653]The girls you pay $150 are usually those who give you a starfish service with bad attitude. Those who accept $100 will treat you much better. Make this a formula.[/QUOTE]Are the girls who charge $150 hotter than those who charge $100?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2995863]Are the girls who charge $150 hotter than those who charge $100?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't advise paying $150 USD in HK, especially if it's a dead fish / starfish in bed. (Good looking or not) Don't waste your money on poor service. $100 USD is enough to get you a descent chica that will provide good unrushed service. A lot of guys don't even have any game with women so they pay absorbent amounts to make up for their lack of self confidence and social skills.
[QUOTE=Sol12;2995828]I also forgot to mention that with the peso continuing to fall to the dollar you will spend less paying in pesos because most girls might be quicker to accept 2000 pesos instead of you asking for $100.[/QUOTE]This is a great idea and has been discussed before. Also when the exchange rate is more than 20 MXN pesos per $1 USD I use 20 peso bills for tipping. Yes, the chicas will accept pesos for payment. The average base rate for paraditas now is 300 MXN. Some will quote in dollars but I don't play that game.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2995863]Are the girls who charge $150 hotter than those who charge $100?[/QUOTE]Certainly in their minds they believe so.
Returned Saturday from 3 days in Tijuana. With me was my wingman FB and my Sugar Baby (she'll go unnamed). I just made 71, tall and fit, she's 33 and petite with long strawberry blond hair. Arrived in San Diego around 4:30 pm, Uber to the border crossing, no problem there. Checked into Rizo across from Club Hong Kong, got situated in our room and took a quick stroll through the club to give her a sense of what to expect. Wingman FB) had an escort from outside the club coming (GoodGirls), so she and I grabbed dinner and waited for him to join us. Back to the room to freshen up and then on to the club. Things were starting to heat up at the club by now, so I walked around, checked out the dancers, other ladies standing around, and finally settled in on the second level to watch the soap show. For the uninitiated, the soap shows consist of 2 ladies, completely naked, sitting and laying on the stage and playing. Lots of shaving cream, dildo play, girl on girl oral, etc. You can sit up front and feel the ladies up, rub pussy and tits, some allow you to finger, etc. Tips ($1) are expected. I couldn't get my girl to participate in touching or tipping. She doesn't like the attention, so she insisted that I do the aforementioned. My SB is Bi-sexual, not in a butch sort of way, more mildly "tomboyish". She has the body of a teenager, cute face and a quiet personality. Spent quite a while watching the 2 ladies on the stage and she took a shine to the smaller girl. Well, once they finished, I invited the girl to come sit with us. She took off to shower and clean up and was back to see us.
The girl didn't speak much English, but I was able to arrange for her to come to the room with us for 150 (for 1 hour and went over), and play with us as a couple. That went really well, SB (Sugar Baby) is very cautious about the exchange of fluids. All penetration by me and BJ was covered. SB loved rubbing and suckling the girl's tits, and especially when the girl went down on her and ate out her pussy. At one point, SB was on top of me while I ate her out with the other girl on my cock in CG. A really awesome first time experience for the both of us! It's getting close to midnight, and the girl has left. Too tired to shower, so she collapses into my naked body in bed and we sleep in peace until around 8:00 in the morning.
Thursday morning, we're up, shower and freshen up, and climb into bed for a very pleasing session. Then head down for breakfast. We ate just about every meal at Sende Norte, which is attached to the Rizo de Oro hotel where we stayed. The food is incredible, maybe even gourmet. Plentiful food, fresh, attractive plating. While not fancy when you're in the dining room, the meals are outstanding. We then take a walk around the area we're in, checking on the tourist areas near the "arch. " Not many people out, and certainly not many Americans. Only saw a few the whole time we were there. BF is in the process of seeing another escort, so SB and I head up to the room for an amazing session, just the 2 of us this time. When she orgasims, she is usually wasted for a couple hours, so we both lay back and nap for an hour or so. By this time, we hook up with FB and head down for dinner before heading over to Hong Kong. We hang out in the club for a couple hours with FB, he eventually finds something to his liking, and takes her up to his room. My girl and I are having trouble finding a girl that is to both of our liking, that is also open to a 3-some. FYI, for me a 3-some is me and 2 chicks, and the chicks have to play with each other as well as me. I finally asked a waiter if he knew any girls that would be interested. He brings us to a private booth overlooking the back bar and stage and says he'll bring someone up. He quotes a crazy amount, and I explain that we only want a girl to bring back to our room. He takes us back to the floor and introduces us to a girl that we both are okay with, and he starts again with some crazy numbers. I finally tell the girl what we want and that we are not interested in buying buckets of beer in order to seal the deal, just want to go to our room and play with her. She shoos him away, and we head over to our hotel. Not as good of a session as with the first girl, but still very satisfying. SB enjoyed watching me fuck her and she really like the girls pussy. The girl ran a timer, so we only spent 30 minutes in the room with her. After she left, went down on my girl until she convulsed into a deep sleep.
Day 3, Friday. FB and I have been wanting to take a ride to Rosarito Beach for several years, and SB was down for it. She put on her bikini and damn she looked good, but too cold to wear it outside. Got a taxi and rode over after breakfast. About a 35 minute ride, very disappointing. If you've ever experienced the Florida Gulf coast, then you'll be disappointed as well. First off, it was cold, windy, a light, intermittent sprinkle, but more disgusting, it smelled! Horses on the beach for rent and riding, which means horse shit on the beach. Apparently no need to clean up, and the next high tide will wash it away,yuck! Also, what smelled like open sewage running down a couple streets in the direction of the beach. Don't bother going here for the beach. I read somewhere recently that Rosarita Beach is the most polluted beach in Mexico. Well, obviously we didn't stay long and caught a taxi back to the Zona. It's getting a little later in the day, and I always wanted to go to Caesar's Restaurant a few blocks over. If you've ever had a Caesar Salad, this is where it originated. So my girl and I had a nice meal away from the Zona. Head back to the hotel and she had been looking at a treatment in a spa near the hotel and I told her I would treat her to it. Head back to the room to relax, give her a rub / massage with some body lotion, which devolves into another hot session with her. Later in the evening we head back to HK for a couple drinks and watch the strippers on the back stage. The "exclusive" Miami annex is open and we wander over to watch a lesbian show on that stage, walk the club a bit and finally settle down on the back stage again. SB had already told me that she is done for the trip and just wants to watch, so I should pick out someone to my liking. The next girl up on the stage is a pretty Hispanic girl, tall with an amazing body. When she finishes, I approach and ask her to come to the room with us. I explain that my girl will only watch. The girl is a bit confused, but agrees to come with us. In the room, SB quickly strips and changes into her nightgown and climbs on the bed with me and the club girl. The girl is intrigued and giggles, but rolls with it. We chatted her up some, she's 20 and from south of Mexico City, been in the club for a couple weeks, no boyfriend, no children, very little English. I fuck her in a couple of positions while my girl watches. Her tits are spectacular and we both compliment her, she thanks us and I tell SB to show her her tit. No problem, she lifts her shirt and they compare. Both are divine! My girl likes the look of her pussy and again, we both compliment her on how pretty it is. Time for a comparison. LOL! This girl was in the room for about an hour and it was fun, 150.
Well that was about it for Tijuana. We crash and get up early to try and avoid the crowd at the border. Catch the HK shuttle to Ped East, which is not the one we usually go to. Almost no one there, and are through with no trouble in no time. Last time we were in line for over an hour before reaching customs.
In conclusion, my girl and I talked about the experience and agreed that it was fun and something off of both of our bucket lists. However, we don't think we'll do it again. If we are able to travel like this again, we would like it to be just the 2 of us. We could have all the sex we want, without other distractions. The 3-somes with an unknown person is not what she would really prefer, rather one with someone that has a relationship with her and I. We'll see about that! Anyway, a memorable trip with a truly sweet person! Also, FB commented that the 2 HK girls that he saw all quoted 150, but for an hour. We both were staying at Rize, so that could be a factor.
The increased prices is not new. Before Covid I would find girls asking 150 and even 200.
Let me say I have a method. I ask certain questions. I do certain things. I read how they react. For the most part I keep to the $100-120. With that said I have given $150 to the right locas. I will tip even more upstairs if they earned it. My favorite in Jan / Feb 2025 was willing to go upstairs for $100. Cut young tight body and super fun upstairs. I would give her $400 for entire night and she would tell me that is a lot of money LOL.
Meanwhile I look at much older girls with bodies I do not particularly appreciate who want $200 for 30 minutes. Maybe girls I do like but all the results of my reading tell me they will be a dead fish and they want $150. I obviously pass on those girls.
There is a lot I think goes into this. Basically girls asking and if you want to negotiate than do so. There are hundreds of girls working any given night, find another one. I know locals still claim to get girls at $80. I know I got offered $80 twice in 2025.
[QUOTE=Mexidan;2995530]I've read the reports. I've talked to girls. I'm just not understanding the $150 price. The place has a lot of customers but few clients is what I hear. As a result, these girls are raising prices to make up for having less clients (common Brasil terma logic from back in the day). Others are saying that so many gringos want girls with fake tits and BBLs that the price went up as more girls are paying for this surgery. I'm headed there in a week for a 10-day stay but what I'm reading makes me second guess this visit. No way I'm paying this in Cuba, Colombia, Brazil, not even Germany FKKs. Hell, the paraditas seem like a better choice than HK girls. This price point puts Tijuana, mexico as one of the highest riced places in the world for SW, up there with the USA and Japan.
If I'm reading things wrong, please correct me.[/QUOTE]
The beaches in general at this area are not good if you been the Miami / Key West / Cancun type places. By this area I mean for about 100 miles in either direction with few exceptions but even the exceptions not as good as the other places you and I mentioned. I have good memories of great times in various San Diego beaches but bottom line is none of them compare to what I have seen in the Key West and Yucatán Peninsula. Rosarito shines with the nightlife on Friday / Saturday in Summer months. I had a wild weekend there last summer. There are a couple girl bars in Rosarito but nothing like Zona Nortre.
The seafood is better on this side of the continent though. Again some exceptions but for the most part. Encanto Restaurante 15 minutes south of Rosarito has some of the best seafood I have tasted.
Great details on rest of report.
Getting a waiter involved to get you a girl will always involve getting beer, or wine, and probably by the bucket. It is the main way a waiter makes their $. My wingman has had good experiences with the girls waiters bring but I never do. I prefer to find my own. I have gotten very good with my filters at picking out good ones.
[QUOTE=RexRiver;2995934]
Day 3, Friday. FB and I have been wanting to take a ride to Rosarito Beach for several years, and SB was down for it. She put on her bikini and damn she looked good, but too cold to wear it outside. Got a taxi and rode over after breakfast. About a 35 minute ride, very disappointing. If you've ever experienced the Florida Gulf coast, then you'll be disappointed as well. First off, it was cold, windy, a light, intermittent sprinkle, but more disgusting, it smelled! Horses on the beach for rent and riding, which means horse shit on the beach. Apparently no need to clean up, and the next high tide will wash it away,yuck! Also, what smelled like open sewage running down a couple streets in the direction of the beach. Don't bother going here for the beach. I read somewhere recently that Rosarita Beach is the most polluted beach in Mexico. Well, obviously we didn't stay long and caught a taxi back to the Zona. It's getting a little later in the day, and I always wanted to go to Caesar's Restaurant [/QUOTE]
The n00 BS may be getting sucked into paying $150 because there are legit 10's in the club. For me I would rather get exceptional service from a 7, maybe 8, than dead fish 10.
Another thing I avoid is the wine crap. Cost way more and the girl drinks it sometimes faster than a beer. I do not care how much I liked her up to that point, if she wants a wine I leave.
There are typically hundreds of girls working when I am there. I will find another one.
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2995881]I wouldn't advise paying $150 USD in HK, especially if it's a dead fish / starfish in bed. (Good looking or not) Don't waste your money on poor service. $100 USD is enough to get you a descent chica that will provide good unrushed service. A lot of guys don't even have any game with women so they pay absorbent amounts to make up for their lack of self confidence and social skills.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hadez;2995995]
Another thing I avoid is the wine crap. Cost way more and the girl drinks it sometimes faster than a beer. I do not care how much I liked her up to that point, if she wants a wine I leave.
There are typically hundreds of girls working when I am there. I will find another one.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah, the wine trick. I took this picture in front of HK. Them chicas probably ordered wine all night long. The Gringo Hustle. LOL.
[QUOTE=RexRiver;2995934]Returned Saturday from 3 days in Tijuana. With me was my wingman FB and my Sugar Baby (she'll go unnamed). I just made 71, tall and fit, she's 33 and petite with long strawberry blond hair.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing.
I must admit that reading your story made me think that SNL could do a skit but instead of Sugar Baby's they could be Dirty Baby's. Unlike how you normally think of SB being with older guys that can provide them with a luxury lifestyle these are DB that have very low expectations and think that going to places like the Zona Norte and staying in 2 star hotels is a better life than what they are used to. Heck they could make into a movie even. LOL.
[QUOTE=RexRiver;2995934]Returned Saturday from 3 days in Tijuana. With me was my wingman FB and my Sugar Baby (she'll go unnamed)......[/QUOTE]Very good report. Appreciated.
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2996050]Oh yeah, the wine trick. I took this picture in front of HK. Them chicas probably ordered wine all night long. The Gringo Hustle. LOL.[/QUOTE]The comical thing is Riunite to wine is what Meister Brau is to beer. Fucking horrible. I still remember as a small child the commercial jingle from the 80's "Riunite on ice, that's nice".
[QUOTE=RexRiver;2995934]Returned Saturday from 3 days in Tijuana. With me was my wingman FB and my Sugar Baby...[/QUOTE]Great report, Rex. A few questions: why do you stay in Rizo instead of Cascadas? Do you think girls charge more when they learn that you are across the street? Also, if you don't mind me asking: how much is your SB's allowance? How did you meet?
[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;2995686]Avoid making the mistake that HK is Tijuana. The mongering scene in Tijuana is so much wider and deeper than HK or the entire Zona Norte for that matter.[/QUOTE]Not everyone can do escorts or Tinder. I, for one, need to see the merchandise before I buy. I am very particular in terms of type, and meeting a girl online, there is a high chance that they will be unsatisfactory. I like HK exactly for the reason that you can take your time and observe the women there for a bit before making your selection.
[QUOTE=Sol12;2995766]Well from previous posts he supposedly knows Tijuana well and has been to bars outside the Zona and was going to visit others 2 years ago but he never writes any reports on things which always makes me suspicious.
I also have never heard anyone say that the customers in HK prefer fake girls. HK is full of spinners because that is what a majority of the customers want.[/QUOTE]I have been to Tijuana several times. I come from Chicago, so I'm not the usual California hop the border all the time guy. If you search my screen name, you will see that I have written many reports about many places over the decades. Stop the BS with being suspicious of everyone that you don't recognize. LMAO at full of spinners vs fake girls. You can open a silicone factory with all the plastic in that place. If you haven't heard that HK has too many fake girls, that's because you're deaf and not listening.
I will be there this Monday for two weeks. If I see something that's new, I'll post. Siete de Copas is now open with the construction finished, and it's away from the hustle and bustle. It's also owned by HK, so it should've good. Their instagram seems pretty active lately. Also this week is Cubs v Padres in San Diego, Tijuana Toros baseball opening weekend, and Taco Fest. Should be a good time to be down there!
[QUOTE=Mexidan;2996479]I have been to Tijuana several times. I come from Chicago, so I'm not the usual California hop the border all the time guy. If you search my screen name, you will see that I have written many reports about many places over the decades. Stop the BS with being suspicious of everyone that you don't recognize. LMAO at full of spinners vs fake girls. You can open a silicone factory with all the plastic in that place. If you haven't heard that HK has too many fake girls, that's because you're deaf and not listening.
I will be there this Monday for two weeks. If I see something that's new, I'll post. Siete de Copas is now open with the construction finished, and it's away from the hustle and bustle. It's also owned by HK, so it should've good. Their instagram seems pretty active lately. Also this week is Cubs v Padres in San Diego, Tijuana Toros baseball opening weekend, and Taco Fest. Should be a good time to be down there![/QUOTE]Well I was responding to what another poster commented on and him saying that Tijuana had more to offer than just HK. I was just pointing out to him that I had read your previous posts and you supposedly have spent time in other bars. I'm suspicious by nature especially on public boards like this because any loser can come on here and pretend to know things just for the attention. Also my suspicions about you only had to do with Tijuana because you haven't posted any real information or reports on your visits. I understand not everyone is like many on this board to live close and be such a frequent visitor but lots of guys travel from long distances and will contribute what they can and since you speak Spanish I would think you have better conversations with girls then most here.
The most famous person on this board is suspicious of every guy he meets until he sees that guy go with a girl. I didn't respond to your post directly because I had so many questions and figured that you probably wouldn't respond due to some questions being to personal which I understand.
Since you brought it up I will comment on your post next.
[QUOTE=Mexidan;2995530]I've read the reports. I've talked to girls. I'm just not understanding the $150 price. The place has a lot of customers but few clients is what I hear. As a result, these girls are raising prices to make up for having less clients (common Brasil terma logic from back in the day). Others are saying that so many gringos want girls with fake tits and BBLs that the price went up as more girls are paying for this surgery. I'm headed there in a week for a 10-day stay but what I'm reading makes me second guess this visit. No way I'm paying this in Cuba, Colombia, Brazil, not even Germany FKKs. Hell, the paraditas seem like a better choice than HK girls. This price point puts Tijuana, mexico as one of the highest riced places in the world for SW, up there with the USA and Japan.
If I'm reading things wrong, please correct me.[/QUOTE]Well as others have pointed out very few girls are firm in the $150. So I'm not sure what reports you speak of and when the last time you talked to a girl in HK. Not sure who is telling you about this lots of customers but few clients so they have to charge more. If they need money they will take less and if they have decided to have sex with guys for money some will only do so at a certain price but I disagree with what the girls are telling you but you can believe what you want.
Now you say a girls have also told you that "gringos" prefer fake girls so they need to charge more to get the surgery. That has to be one of the dumbest things to believe that has come out of a chicas mouth. A large amount of HK customers are looking for spinners, which is why HK has so many. I didn't say that HK doesn't have fake girls but they cater to a different clientele. If you spend much time in HK you can see this. That was one of the things that made AB different and if guys preferred fake girls AB would have been packed but it wasn't.
So I don't know why you knowingly go to Tijuana, especially for so long, when you are aware of the higher costs. And the SG have always been a better option for cheap sex compared to HK girls.
Look forward to your trip reports on your long visit.
[QUOTE=Mexidan;2996479]I have been to Tijuana several times. I come from Chicago, so I'm not the usual California hop the border all the time guy. If you search my screen name, you will see that I have written many reports about many places over the decades. Stop the BS with being suspicious of everyone that you don't recognize. LMAO at full of spinners vs fake girls. You can open a silicone factory with all the plastic in that place. If you haven't heard that HK has too many fake girls, that's because you're deaf and not listening.
I will be there this Monday for two weeks. If I see something that's new, I'll post. Siete de Copas is now open with the construction finished, and it's away from the hustle and bustle. It's also owned by HK, so it should've good. Their instagram seems pretty active lately. Also this week is Cubs v Padres in San Diego, Tijuana Toros baseball opening weekend, and Taco Fest. Should be a good time to be down there![/QUOTE]I hope you mean you're going to San Diego for 2 weeks and not Tijuana for 2 weeks.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2996475]Not everyone can do escorts or Tinder. I, for one, need to see the merchandise before I buy. I am very particular in terms of type, and meeting a girl online, there is a high chance that they will be unsatisfactory. I like HK exactly for the reason that you can take your time and observe the women there for a bit before making your selection.[/QUOTE]I never said he should do escorts or Tinder. To each his own in terms of how to get down. I was just giving the OP advice not to conflate Hong Kong with Tijuana. Think of Tijuana as a taco stand. Hong Kong is a big player in the mongering scene obviously so think of it as the carne asada taco. However, there are lots of different tacos such as adobada, lengua, cabeza, birria, costilla, chorizo, tripas, camaron, pescado and I could go on and on.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2996475]Not everyone can do escorts or Tinder. I, for one, need to see the merchandise before I buy. I am very particular in terms of type, and meeting a girl online, there is a high chance that they will be unsatisfactory. I like HK exactly for the reason that you can take your time and observe the women there for a bit before making your selection.[/QUOTE]This is the fundamental point people don't realize. What is mentioned here is extremely important to many of us. Online escorting works only if a well established, trusted verification and review process is in place. To the most part, there is none. In fact it is you, the paying monger, who is verified with the likes of Seeking Arrangement which is facking joke of a place. Compare this to what HK and other sex clubs provide, they are an excellent and fair sexual market places, none can replace. We can talk about price hikes, mistreatment and cheating but these are not fundamental service model issues.
It's easy to become spoiled living near Tijuana. We mustn't forget how fortunate we are to live a nice life in a first world nation, and have weekly access to hot young girls for affordable prices. I hear a lot of guys constantly griping about the price, but it's still really not much more than the cost of a dinner date in the US, if you think about it. And, you are getting a girl that you problably won't be getting in the US, at least not without substantially more effort (and headache).
There aren't many places in the world where you can have the best of both worlds, so to speak. In fact, I really can't think of any. I mean, I know there is SE Asia and FKK Clubs, etc. But do you really want to live in Germany or Thailand long term? Yes, So Cal is expensive, but we are very blessed in this respect.
I stay in Rizo because this is where I've always stayed. My first time coming was with my wingman that had been once before. He tried getting a room in Cascadas, but there weren't any. Rizo was his second choice. We both like that it is not right on top of HK. We hear that the foot traffic and noise can be a distraction. We've never stayed at Cascadas, so just from hearing this on this board. FYI, Rizo is above Tropical, so the noise can still be a factor depending upon where your room is located. From my experiece, there is no difference in what the girls ask. I usually negotiate the rate, then show them my Rizo wrist band, and away we go. My SB allowance is 300 per visit. I have to get a room and we usually send a couple hours together. We met on Seeking 5 years ago and our relationship is something more that a PPM. We actually like each other, she has a Daddy fetish, so there is that. LOL! I was fortunate to meet her, as she was only on Seeking for a brief time after her divorce. She was in another relationship, but that never took hold. We both agree that whatever other relationship (s) either of us might enter into, we like the special arrangement that we have and hope to continue it for a while.
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;2996265]Great report, Rex. A few questions: why do you stay in Rizo instead of Cascadas? Do you think girls charge more when they learn that you are across the street? Also, if you don't mind me asking: how much is your SB's allowance? How did you meet?[/QUOTE]
I have noticed a lot of cocaine in Rosarito and Tijuana since July 2024. It is in the bathrooms at Rosarito clubs and I have seen multiple girls buying it from waiters in Zona clubs.
The police action in Tijuana has gotten very aggressive. They even come into the Zona Norte now. The 90s and early 2000s were bad before the clean up but I have never seen anything like what I have seen so far in 2025.
In the cab ride from the border there was a police check point on the way to HK. They stopped the cab and searched our bags. This police officer seemed normal, not on drugs. We had no drugs so we were allowed to go after the search. This was Feb 2025 ish.
Right next to HK two police officers definately on cocaine stopped me while walking. I was drunk but had no drugs on me. They emptied the money from my monger wallet. Later I noticed they kept $50. This was also 2025.
I was stopped next to parking structure by the ally on other side of block from HK not far from Chicago. Again complete search, money taken out of container. This time I kept track and kept all my money. These two were also on cocaine.
Was driving in Zona and got stopped. Two more police on cocaine. Searched everything. I did not have drugs so got away no money taken.
I have been stopped in my car near zona before. It has been some years. Never before have I seen police stopped people inside the Zona. Must be the cocaine giving new revenue making ideas.
Do not have drugs in Tijuana. This includes weed. You will definately lose money and may go to jail.
I want to start off with saying I went to Tijuana for the first time and did my research and tried to keep an open mind but I do prefer south american girls / european to central american girls.
SP is my favorite place and so it comes from that perspective.
First time in Tijuana and like I told the border official entering back to the states, my last time.
I've been to other places like Berlin, Barcelona, Montreal, GT City, SP / Rio and I have to rank Tijuana as the lowest just behind GT City.
Flew to san diego from the east coast Thursday morning. Took an uber to the border but if you know the lay of the land you can take the trolley down there and save a few bucks. Was $40 uber from SAN to the border.
Trolley would be like $3.
Crossed the border pretty easily and fast.
Took a taxi from there to my hotel.
Stayed in grand one plaza hotel. Was pretty nice and had big rooms and girls can come in freely. Has a nice rooftop bar and lounge area. No pool.
Called a girl over from good girls named mesi.
Looked good on pics. She arrived a bit late but I took a nap from my flight so all good. She was just a bit more big from her pics. A few more stretched marks but overall it was her.
She was a bit awkward and it started off a bit slow. I think she blew me with a condom or maybe not, can't remember but it was pretty bad regardless since I can't remember.
Used my condoms and the damn thing broke. I wondered why it felt better LOL.
Went to change it and it was just an ok session. She couldn't really get into doggystyle position for some reason. It was like she was new but I doubt that.
$125.
My wingman from Cali showed up after and we got some food and headed to the clubs.
[B]TROPICAL[/B]
Pretty nice. Has three floors. Pretty decent amount of girls. Has a soap area on the first floor, second floor has like a live band / bar area and third floor has a stripper pole area.
No cover and the girls here seemed the most chill.
Took a girl here on a Friday night and seemed like it was going to go ok.
Went to the room for $120 and $40 for the room.
After a quick shower she said she wanted to do a CBJ since she wanted to keep her health in check and then proceeded to poke a hole into two baby wipes to put around my dick.
I immediately called it off and told her I'm leaving and not paying because this was absurd.
That was the only time I tried that club and left for good.
[B]CHICAGO CLUB[/B]
Only one floor but pretty spacious.
Walked around and it was the least populated from the three clubs.
Smoking area on the side.
Had a hot tub where girls would do a little show and there was like 2 or 3 stripper poles.
Didn't really see anything I liked.
Talked to one girl.
Said she was new to the place.
Only worked a week but she wanted 200 for 1 HR or 150 for half.
Tried to negotiate but she only went down $10.
Left for Hong Kong but decided to come back real quick after I left HK late and she was still there.
Didn't seem anyone else took her offer so decided to give her another shot.
No go and tried to get her number but she said she didn't give it out until a guy goes up first.
She then asked if I was just going to keep wasting her time to go with the other 0 guys who were interested in her LOL.
This place was also a dud.
Last but not least.
[B]HONG KONG[/B]
Went to this place all three nights I was there (Thursday-Saturday).
The most promising but this place is a vibe killer and is just so close to being great.
My main complaints like the rest of Tijuana clubs in general is the all cash aspect. I hate having to take out ones or break down my bills to smaller bills. Plus the fucking tipping is out of fucking control.
Everyone in these clubs want a fucking tip.
I was about to pull down my pants and let them suck my tip towards the end if they wanted it so bad.
I don't understand why they can't just make you a tab or have a bracelet or something like that like they do in SP or Rio and pay your tab when you leave with a card or cash with a discount.
The place is too fucking loud as well. You can barely talk to a girl and once you do you have to pay for her drink to do so. In SP / Rio they have quieter places you can chat a girl with and just hang out.
I must have talked to 6-8 girls and all but two would give me a BBBJ. It was insane. They all had the same line saying that the club wouldn't allow it and they were looking out for their health.
I gave them a tip and told them then don't fuck random guys for money for a living.
First girl was a neat looking redhead (fake but whatever) green eyes and decent body. Her head game was like 30 seconds of sucking and then putting a condom on.
The sex was like a routine she does with pre determined intervals. She was a bit thin so she said I couldn't really man handle her or slap her ass. It was like fucking a sex robot with 5 minute intervals for each positions. No passion, just mechanical.
2nd girl was a bit better but was CBJ.
MILF with black hair, short and kinda white. Started off pretty strong but then her period blood came out and just stopped the whole thing.
Took a quick shower and see if it kept going but it didn't so that was weird. She then proceeded to put her fingers around the base of the condom to keep it in place the whole time and I kept telling her that she was scratching my balls with her long fake fingernails. I had to physically move her hand away a few times until she got the message that I was ready to leave if she didn't stop.
Finished up and it was the most decent so far in HK even with all the BS.
$100.
3rd girl was fun.
Black hair, pale and much younger. Looked italian.
Talked a bit and flipped a coin for 120 or 140.
I won at 120. We headed upstairs and had to use the ATM. $15 fee to get my money out.
Her head game was the best out of all the girls in Tijuana but really is the standard anywhere else tbh.
No fuss and all fun. Had a nice time and overall was the best girl I had there. If more girls were like this then I would be pretty good with the trip but this was the last girl for the trip.
HK girls think they are hot shit but its like being the biggest fish in a pond. Attitude here is pretty wack.
Another thing I didn't like was that the girls could keep their phones and half of them would be on it at all times. This is another aspect that Brazil gets right. Girls can't have their phones while out. Keeps them engaged.
Customer service is pretty shit too. I ask the door guy at HK a question and he just shouted at my friend and I too keep moving like he was in a damn hurry. Then he wanted a tip when we came back later LOL.
Called another girl from mustaj or something like that named fatima.
Came on time.
Had to get her from the lobby.
She looked pretty cute but was def too shy for this. Maybe she was new?
Felt like the most awkward virgin sex with one of the most horrendous handjob / blowjob I ever had. It was so odd it's hard to explain.
Went to doggy and she had a smell that hit my nose that made me lose my arousal. She went to take a shower after she entered the room so idk how she smelled. Finished up fast after that.
$125.
Tried seeking and saw one girl. She was a white ish looking girl. Dyed redhead, 5 ft.
She was very new and was the first guy she met.
She was very shy about the whole thing so went to the rooftop bar and had a drink first. She wanted $200 but told her $100 was the max and she said that was ok.
Got to the room and we went at it after a quick shower.
BJ was quick. She liked to kiss and grind. Put on a condom and went to pound town. Mixing it up with some kisses and hard fucks. Was the most passionate.
Had a great time and ended up giving her $135. She was happy and that was that.
Headed back to the border and that took like 35 mins.
Trolley to SAN was easy. $3.
Overall Tijuana was just not it.
I would gladly fly an extra 4 hrs and pay like $25-50 more for a hotter girl (for my taste) with better passionate fucking and customer service in Brazil.
I would compared these clubs to casarao in SP. Casarao is like $10 to enter with a drink and $6 without. Monday nights they have free bbq. Girls can be had for like $50 hh to like $90 HR.
Overnight would be like $120-200.
Theres a good mix of girls from scandallo (high end club) and random newbies that want to make a quick buck. So you will find pros next to GND.
People at the door are always friendly and helpful. There are quite places to have a convo. And the girls have much better body figures.
HK does have a policy that if a girl gets too fat or big then she can't enter anymore.
But the real tragedy is that most of the girls had flat asses. Some girls had some real fake BBLs but very few had a nice shapely ass. Most girls in Tijuana and even HK would look better if they all just went to the gym a few times a week and lost like 10 pounds. Brazilian genetics are something else because even the petite GNDs I like had nice asses no matter if they were short or skinny or went to the gym at all. Plus you have a great mix of redhead, blondes, japanese and black girls. Seeking is also really good over there.
To me it's not worth the hassle to go to the west coast and cross a border and deal with bills for a mediocre experience. it has all the worst aspects of an american strip club and all of the crudeness meixco is known for. It's ok I guess if you want a quick fuck and you like the average look of mexican girls but if you want something better I would just go to Brazil where the options are just next level and more sophisticated with tons more options and a more elegant system of doing business
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2997369]I want to start off with saying I went to Tijuana for the first time and did my research and tried to keep an open mind but I do prefer south american girls / european to central american girls.
SP is my favorite place and so it comes from that perspective.[/QUOTE]
I know you said you don't plan on going back but on the off chance that you do, I strongly suggest going earlier in the week instead of Thursday through Saturday. For us who are there on a regular basis, we will all pretty much say those are the worst days to go. Too many dudes around hogging up all the top tier talent.
Also, you said your preference is South American girls, which Chicago has plenty of if you go late at night. No Brazilians but several Colombians and Venezuelans. All curvy gals and most seem to be open to anal if thats your thing.
Thanks for taking the time to write your report but just sounded like you didn't know how to pick them. Maybe you just dealt with what you felt you were given though. Theres definitely hot girls around in HK, Tropical and Chicago who provide GFE/PSE service. But I'm local so I have more time to put in the footwork and weed them out, to be fair. Just my 2 cents.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2997369]I I guess if you want a quick fuck and you like the average look of Mexican girls but if you want something better I would just go to Brazil where the options are just next level and more sophisticated with tons more options and a more elegant system of doing business[/QUOTE]Thank you for a terrific & detailed post. Thanks also for reminding us that the quality of our experiences & memories is why it's worth traveling there. The time to get to Sao / Rio is the reason it is still paradise. The quick sessions at hktj are like Mcdonalds Vs. A full course 5-star meal. (with only a few memorable exceptions).
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2997369]I want to start off with saying I went to Tijuana for the first time and did my research and tried to keep an open mind but I do prefer south american girls / european to central american girls.
SP is my favorite place and so it comes from that perspective.
First time in Tijuana and like I told the border official entering back to the states, my last time.
I've been to other places like Berlin, Barcelona, Montreal, GT City, SP / Rio and I have to rank Tijuana as the lowest just behind GT City.
Flew to san diego from the east coast Thursday morning. Took an uber to the border but if you know the lay of the land you can take the trolley down there and save a few bucks. Was $40 uber from SAN to the border.[/QUOTE]All this talk of Scandallo and I still haven't seen any pics or videos of the girls there? Even in the SP forum.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2997379]I know you said you don't plan on going back but on the off chance that you do, I strongly suggest going earlier in the week instead of Thursday through Saturday. For us who are there on a regular basis, we will all pretty much say those are the worst days to go. Too many dudes around hogging up all the top tier talent.
Also, you said your preference is South American girls, which Chicago has plenty of if you go late at night. No Brazilians but several Colombians and Venezuelans. All curvy gals and most seem to be open to anal if thats your thing.
Thanks for taking the time to write your report but just sounded like you didn't know how to pick them. Maybe you just dealt with what you felt you were given though. Theres definitely hot girls around in HK, Tropical and Chicago who provide GFE/PSE service. But I'm local so I have more time to put in the footwork and weed them out, to be fair. Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]This is a thoughtful response and the advice is accurate. Weekends are a zoo and a poor choice for a first time Tijuana experience. Been to many places around the world and some of my best experiences are from Tijuana.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2997379]I know you said you don't plan on going back but on the off chance that you do, I strongly suggest going earlier in the week instead of Thursday through Saturday. For us who are there on a regular basis, we will all pretty much say those are the worst days to go. Too many dudes around hogging up all the top tier talent.
Also, you said your preference is South American girls, which Chicago has plenty of if you go late at night. No Brazilians but several Colombians and Venezuelans. All curvy gals and most seem to be open to anal if thats your thing.
Thanks for taking the time to write your report but just sounded like you didn't know how to pick them. Maybe you just dealt with what you felt you were given though. Theres definitely hot girls around in HK, Tropical and Chicago who provide GFE/PSE service. But I'm local so I have more time to put in the footwork and weed them out, to be fair. Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]I was going to say something similar. That's about the experience you are going to have as a first timer. Especially if you are going for volume fucking, meaning fucking as many girls as you can in the shortest time possible. It's like they can smell a newbie and the sharks start circling. It's a lot different if you are a regular and can take your time and be more selective. Also, it makes a difference if they know you are coming back next weekgives you a lot more clout.
A couple points here from the original post.
"My main complaints like the rest of Tijuana clubs in general is the all cash aspect. I hate having to take out ones or break down my bills to smaller bills. Plus the fucking tipping is out of fucking control. Everyone in these clubs want a fucking tip. I was about to pull down my pants and let them suck my tip towards the end if they wanted it so bad. "
If you are not from a tipping culture I guess it can be a little off-putting. Just say no if you don't want tip to the girls. As for the waiters, they make their money on tips, so it is conventional to give them a tip if you order drinks. You don't have to tip them for any other reason, though. As for the cash aspect, maybe it lacks convenience and requires more planning ahead, but I don't mind it because at least cash is anonymous. I don't really want a record of what I am doing down there. Also, I would never want the club to control the money flow for the girls services.
"We headed upstairs and had to use the ATM. $15 fee to get my money out."
Personally, I always bring the amount of money I need for the night with me to avoid using the ATM. You always are going to be hit with some predatory fee if you use an ATM on the premises.
"I must have talked to 6-8 girls and all but two would (n't)?? Give me a BBBJ. It was insane. All had the same line saying that the club wouldn't allow it and they were looking out for their health. "
This is BS. The club doesn't care at all what you do in the room. The girls are like independent contractors in that respect.
"The place is too fucking loud as well. You can barely talk to a girl and once you do you have to pay for her drink to do so. In SP / Rio they have quieter places you can chat a girl with and just hang out"
As Nothing mentioned, the vibe is a little more chill Sun-Wed, with your best deals probably being Mon or Tuesday. Of course, HK will likely still have top talent those days but Chicago and Tropical will be slower.
"Another thing I didn't like was that the girls could keep their phones and half of them would be on it at all times. This is another aspect that Brazil gets right. Girls can't have their phones while out. Keeps them engaged. "
This might not be a bed Idea. This is especially true in Chavelas where it's like cell phone city. However, some of the girls look so board in there even with their phones, I would hate to see what they looked like without them!
A couple tips for first timers.
1) Don't say you are from wherever you are from. Just tell them you live in LA or SD. Makes it seem like you have the potential to come back soon.
2) Don't ask a lot of newb questions. This can be tough one, but if you are asking questions about the club like you've never been there before this a tell for the girls.
3) Don't throw your money around wildly. Regulars don't do this. Making it rain and busting out tips for for every girl that comes by is a newb maneuver. It's also guaranteed to get the sharks circling and also you are going to have about 10 pushy waiters at you table.
4) Hold off negotiating the price/services as long as you can. I know some people disagree with this but I feel like once you have looked them into doing X Y and Z for $120 or so you may have brought the price down slightly but you are surely on the road to a more mechanical session. And if you don't negotiate, you are under no obligation to pay more than the standard rate, which is like 100-120.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2997379]I know you said you don't plan on going back but on the off chance that you do, I strongly suggest going earlier in the week instead of Thursday through Saturday. For us who are there on a regular basis, we will all pretty much say those are the worst days to go. Too many dudes around hogging up all the top tier talent.
Also, you said your preference is South American girls, which Chicago has plenty of if you go late at night. No Brazilians but several Colombians and Venezuelans. All curvy gals and most seem to be open to anal if thats your thing.
Thanks for taking the time to write your report but just sounded like you didn't know how to pick them. Maybe you just dealt with what you felt you were given though. Theres definitely hot girls around in HK, Tropical and Chicago who provide GFE/PSE service. But I'm local so I have more time to put in the footwork and weed them out, to be fair. Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]I don't really have time to go during Monday-Wednesday and if I have that time off I'd rather go south.
I went during the daytime as well to the clubs and less guys and some girls who only work during the day but the main issue is that I don't find many of them attractive to pluck down some thousands of pesos for them or their time.
I lean towards brazilians girls more than colombians / venezualans because they are more genetically different. Col / ven girls are pretty typical brown skin, brown eyes and black hair while brazilians can be true redheads (my fav) blondes, Japanese, Indigenous, black with blue, green or grey eyes and have more european dna from Italy, Germany or Portugal than you'd find anywhere else in central or south america.
Granted maybe I did pick some duds but at the same time I did talk to over 10+ girls in total in my 4 days in Tijuana and they were just fucking boring for the most part except for the last girl but I got her number after to meet again before I left and got nothing so even she wasn't that amazing.
It really is the attractiveness and attitude of the girls that is the main issue overall.
Not much to do in Tijuana as well.
That's just my opinion and if you're near the border I guess it can be fine but for me a whole trip is too much legwork for girls I wouldn't even give a second look back here in miami.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2997395]Thank you for a terrific & detailed post. Thanks also for reminding us that the quality of our experiences & memories is why it's worth traveling there. The time to get to Sao / Rio is the reason it is still paradise. The quick sessions at hktj are like Mcdonalds Vs. A full course 5-star meal. (with only a few memorable exceptions).[/QUOTE]I never compared scandallo to Tijuana.
SP means Sao paulo.
I did directly compared it to casarao in SP which is like the cheapest and club like place in SP that has a similar structure to HK and the other clubs in Tijuana.
But to add to that you can have quick sessions in the clinicas in moema in SP, there are like 5 within walking distance and pay like $40-80 to fuck a girl who looks a whole lot better than most girls in HK.
You can just sit, get a free drink and see the line up and decide to go with a girl or head to another clinica.
No pressure and you can easily get the girls number after to meet at your place for $100 or something like that easy.
Seeking also has some girls for cheap or just want to fuck.
Okcupid / tinder is big.
Online girls are also very good and if you have a connection you can get a discount.
They are also much more sexually passionate with BBBJ and most girls are down to take photos / videos while the mexican girls were very skittish.
So even the quick session "mcdonalds" in SP are much better than Tijuana.
[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2997414]All this talk of Scandallo and I still haven't seen any pics or videos of the girls there? Even in the SP forum.[/QUOTE]Never brought up scandallo but you can go to the sao paulo forum and people post some pics of girls from there.
They have a strict no photos or video policy so hard to get a image of the inside.
During covid a reporter went inside and busted them about the amount of people going in and out so they clamped down hard recently.
If you PM some members they will most likely send you some pics and videos of the girls they had for sure.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2997509]I was going to say something similar. That's about the experience you are going to have as a first timer. Especially if you are going for volume fucking, meaning fucking as many girls as you can in the shortest time possible. It's like they can smell a newbie and the sharks start circling. It's a lot different if you are a regular and can take your time and be more selective. Also, it makes a difference if they know you are coming back next weekgives you a lot more clout.
A couple points here from the original post.
"My main complaints like the rest of Tijuana clubs in general is the all cash aspect. I hate having to take out ones or break down my bills to smaller bills. Plus the fucking tipping is out of fucking control. Everyone in these clubs want a fucking tip. I was about to pull down my pants and let them suck my tip towards the end if they wanted it so bad. "
If you are not from a tipping culture I guess it can be a little off-putting. Just say no if you don't want tip to the girls. As for the waiters, they make their money on tips, so it is conventional to give them a tip if you order drinks. You don't have to tip them for any other reason, though. As for the cash aspect, maybe it lacks convenience and requires more planning ahead, but I don't mind it because at least cash is anonymous. I don't really want a record of what I am doing down there. Also, I would never want the club to control the money flow for the girls services.
"We headed upstairs and had to use the ATM. $15 fee to get my money out."
Personally, I always bring the amount of money I need for the night with me to avoid using the ATM. You always are going to be hit with some predatory fee if you use an ATM on the premises.
"I must have talked to 6-8 girls and all but two would (n't)?? Give me a BBBJ. It was insane. All had the same line saying that the club wouldn't allow it and they were looking out for their health. "
This is BS. The club doesn't care at all what you do in the room. The girls are like independent contractors in that respect.
"The place is too fucking loud as well. You can barely talk to a girl and once you do you have to pay for her drink to do so. In SP / Rio they have quieter places you can chat a girl with and just hang out"
As Nothing mentioned, the vibe is a little more chill Sun-Wed, with your best deals probably being Mon or Tuesday. Of course, HK will likely still have top talent those days but Chicago and Tropical will be slower.
"Another thing I didn't like was that the girls could keep their phones and half of them would be on it at all times. This is another aspect that Brazil gets right. Girls can't have their phones while out. Keeps them engaged. "
This might not be a bed Idea. This is especially true in Chavelas where it's like cell phone city. However, some of the girls look so board in there even with their phones, I would hate to see what they looked like without them!
A couple tips for first timers.
1) Don't say you are from wherever you are from. Just tell them you live in LA or SD. Makes it seem like you have the potential to come back soon.
2) Don't ask a lot of newb questions. This can be tough one, but if you are asking questions about the club like you've never been there before this a tell for the girls.
3) Don't throw your money around wildly. Regulars don't do this. Making it rain and busting out tips for for every girl that comes by is a newb maneuver. It's also guaranteed to get the sharks circling and also you are going to have about 10 pushy waiters at you table.
4) Hold off negotiating the price/services as long as you can. I know some people disagree with this but I feel like once you have looked them into doing X Y and Z for $120 or so you may have brought the price down slightly but you are surely on the road to a more mechanical session. And if you don't negotiate, you are under no obligation to pay more than the standard rate, which is like 100-120.[/QUOTE]TIPPING.
I'm from the USA so I understand tipping cultured and its fucking BS.
Importing that shit to mexico is like importing LA girl mindset to the girls.
Like who wants that? Shit should be contained and not spreading.
And I mean every motherfucker wanted a tip. The doorguy, the waiters, the security guys, the guys at the hotel, the girls, etc.
Its like their little kids begging for money and it's offputting.
In Brazil they don't have this stupid tipping culture but I do tip some people like the DJ at scan to put my music or some waiters when they help a brother out with a girl or some extra stuff.
So I'm not opposed to it but it's stupid you want a tip for doing your job like you're not getting paid.
ATM.
Yea I should have brought more money.
Atms in the usa at strip clubs would be about the same. Even in SP more or less.
Its just annoying it wasnt like 10 $ or less.
BBBJ.
Yea I know this was bullshit. I called them out every single time but it's like a pre scripted thing for 90% of the girls I talked to.
It was crazy it was that high.
Like I said I've been to a few places around the world but never met so many girls in a row saying the exact same shit.
Its like they don't go to the clinic or something to get tested like you're supposed to.
I told them I get tested frequently and they looked at me like I was the insane one and not the other way around.
It was actually kinda nasty to think some of these girls don't get tested on a regualr basis.
In SP most clubs requires the girls to bring a test results every 2-3 weeks.
Idk if HK has a similar policy but I doubt it since most girls said they didn't want to pay for something like that all the time.
NOISE.
Just to preface I'm 29 and not 69.
I'm used to clubs and loud ish places but this aspect was just super annoying.
No matter what club you went it was always blasting some shitty rap / mexican music turned up to 100 all the time or have a loud ass live band near.
The only place that was sort of quite was the top level in HK but I doubt most girls would want to walk all the way up there just to talk for a bit.
I don't blame them either.
SP clubs have like resturant area where you can dine and they have like light jazz music or keep the volume to like 40% so you can have a nice talk with a girl over some dinner and drinks.
They also have smoking areas that are quite too.
Most have club areas where music is loud but contained if you want that too.
Overall they got their shit together and the mexican clubs are just a mess of a place.
PHONES.
This should be policy so girls have to give a shit.
They are working and so they need to act like it.
If they get bored they can work at KFC or McDonalds.
Since I'm paying for the girls drink when I talk to them I better have their full fucking attention.
OVERALL.
Not my kind of place.
There are other places like montreal that I feel are better for my liking and needs.
DR perhaps?
I just know I will never go back to Tijuana since it lacks so many things that make it a real relaxing spot.
Feels like a Reno to Sao paulo's Las Vegas.
I will say this about Hong Kong. The best girls, whether looks or performance wise, hardly ever show up for work. They'll go 1 week per month or every other month at most. Why? Because they accumulate their own clientele to see away from the club at their own leisure and not put up with all the HK BS. All they need is a handful of guys who will see them on a consistent basis and they easily make way more with that alone than if they would show up for work at the club every day. And one of those handful of guys usually end up being their sugar daddy to the point that they don't even need to see anybody else unless they want to. Whenever they return to work for that 1 week or so, its because they lose a guy or two in their rotation for whatever reason, and they need new ones to take their place.
The girls you see there on a consistent basis week in and week out for the most part are not the GFE / PSE types, because if they were, they wouldn't have to be showing up for work so often. They would have already easily built up a following to keep them from working so much.
When I go I'm either scouting the newest hottest prospects or hoping to bump into familiar faces that haven't been around in a while. The ones who are always typically there are practically invisible to me.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2997604]I will say this about Hong Kong. The best girls, whether looks or performance wise, hardly ever show up for work. They'll go 1 week per month or every other month at most. Why? Because they accumulate their own clientele to see away from the club at their own leisure and not put up with all the HK BS. All they need is a handful of guys who will see them on a consistent basis and they easily make way more with that alone than if they would show up for work at the club every day. And one of those handful of guys usually end up being their sugar daddy to the point that they don't even need to see anybody else unless they want to. Whenever they return to work for that 1 week or so, its because they lose a guy or two in their rotation for whatever reason, and they need new guys to take their place.
The girls you see there on a consistent basis week in and week out for the most part are not the GFE / PSE types, because if they were, they wouldn't have to be showing up for work so often. They would have already easily built up a following to keep them from working so much.
When I go I'm either scouting the newest hottest prospects or looking for familiar faces that haven't been around in a while. The ones who are always typically there are practically invisible to me.[/QUOTE]Yep. There are definitely short game girls (girls you might want to take to the room but not see outside the club) and long game girls (girls you might want to see outside the club and have a longer term "relationship" with.).
The girls that are constantly working tend to be more short game girls. Why this is could be any of the following:
1) They are not that attractive.
2) They don't give giood service.
3) Thier personality doesn't allow them to connect with clients.
4) They actually aren't interested in men, in general, so its tougher for them to do the long game.
5) They don't live in Tijuana, but stay in the hotel during their visits and go back. This makes the logistics more difficult.
6) They have an actual boyfriend somewhere, which makes the logistics more difficult.
7) Or lastly, for whatever reason, they just kind of dumb or like working in the clubs better.
Long game girls:
1) Are attractive to most men.
2) Don't like working in the club and avoid it whenever possible.
3) Give good service.
4) Have higher social intelligence, which allows them to make friends with men easily, ultimately leading to these other types of arrangements mentioned by Nothing.
The girls who are "always" there are definitely not good prospect for the long game. Thus, if you want that, you do need to hunt for "new prospects". The newer the better, becuase you want to get in before she builds up too much of a clientele and gets jaded.
Long game is much harder to achieve than short game, for obvious reasons. For me personally, the stars have to kind of align for it to happen. This is because to take a girl out of the club, In addition to her being an attractive, cool girl that I like being with and with whom there is good sexual chemestry, I need to feel that she is also attracted to me and wants to be there. I don't like the idea of just hiring an escort to go places or being some girl's "sugar daddy". I'm not saying that money won't be involved. It will (this is Mexico after all), but she still has to have an interest in me beyond money, or it won't work.
I don't mind helping these girls out financially if they deserve it. In fact, I find this to be a necessary component of a healthy relationship with a female. Why? Because women have the sexual power. Men need to exert financial power to create balance. You may think you are somehow winning by landing a girl who is hot and doesn't need you financially. But the reality is you will have no leverage in the relationship. The girl will totally dictate the terms of the relationship, which is unacceptable to me. To have leverage, you basically have to pay, there is no way around it. Another reality of Mexico is that these women have basically no skills other than getting money from men. If you don't give them money, they will need to minimize their time with you and find some guys that will, not neccessarily because they don't like you, but because they need to survive.
Another obstacle to the long game is finding a girl who works with your budget. Another reason why it's important that they like spending time with you because then you can usually get a pretty good deal. You don't want a girl who is constantly breaking your bank. In addition, I view any money I give them as a gift. They can't ask for it directly or up front. If they are not accepting of what I give then that ends it.
So I recently asked a girl to do something outside the club. This girl is kind of a regular at HK so I was already treading on thin ice. However, she is pretty young, so I though maybe it was worth a shot. Even though I have seen her working there for a while, I never went with her to the room until recently, primarily because I couldn't read her personality. She seemed friendly but a little standoffish with other clients, so I was hesitant.
One day she sat down right beside me, and we started talking. She's all like, "you're the hottest guy in here", and "I tell my friends that your my 'boyfriend'" and some other over the top stuff like that, and I'm like, OK maybe she's trying to butter me up. But then we start kissing and she's all over me. We are literally making out in the club for hours and she's instigating most of it. So I'm thinking, "she acts different with me than I've seen her act with other clients so maybe she DOES like me. " So we go to the room and she gives me girlfriend sex (which is pretty standard for me). I pay her the standard rate plus a tip (She didn't ask for any money, BTW). I get her number. Everything was great.
I see her a couple more times over the coming weeks. Same result. She's young, cute, and basically my type, so finally I ask her if she is free any day so we can potentially do something outside the club. She says "sure" and is recommending places we could go, which I interpret as another good sign. When we finish for the night, I indicate that I am going to text her next week to make arrangements. As we part ways, she say to me "you are going to text me, right?" and I say "yeah".
So the next week I am texting her and the deal is almost sealed when she drops this, "You are going to pay me to go out with you, right?" Damn, so close. I try to be as nice as possible. I tell her that, yes, I was going to make it worth her while, but asking so directly makes it feel transactional and that I'm not looking for just an Escort. The says that she needs to work and that she's not looking for a boyfriend for the time being. The moment being ruined, I say, "oh well maybe another time. ".
So basically she's off the table for now. Though I will concede that she may just be inexperienced and not understand how the long game works. She is pretty fun for the short game, though, so I may still go with her at the club now and then.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2997627]So the next week I am texting her and the deal is almost sealed when she drops this, "You are going to pay me to go out with you, right?" Damn, so close. I try to be as nice as possible. I tell her that, yes, I was going to make it worth her while, but asking so directly makes it feel transactional and that I'm not looking for just an Escort. The says that she needs to work and that she's not looking for a boyfriend for the time being. The moment being ruined, I say, "oh well maybe another time. ".
So basically she's off the table for now. Though I will concede that she may just be inexperienced and not understand how the long game works. She is pretty fun for the short game, though, so I may still go with her at the club now and then.[/QUOTE]I don't get what she did wrong. Unless the two of you hadn't mentioned anything about spending the night together she just wanted to make sure you didn't think her time and sex was free. Or she just wanted to clarify you wanted.
I would say that guys try to take advantage of girls more than the girls do of guys. IMO. Since I'm not sure of every conversation you had with her and what was exactly said I would imagine that you never made it clear to her that you would compensate her for sex and since your the man you need to make sure she knows the situation and what you want.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2997627]I see her a couple more times over the coming weeks. Same result. She's young, cute, and basically my type, so finally I ask her if she is free any day so we can potentially do something outside the club. She says "sure" and is recommending places we could go, which I interpret as another good sign. When we finish for the night, I indicate that I am going to text her next week to make arrangements. As we part ways, she say to me "you are going to text me, right?" and I say "yeah".
So the next week I am texting her and the deal is almost sealed when she drops this, "You are going to pay me to go out with you, right?" Damn, so close. I try to be as nice as possible. I tell her that, yes, I was going to make it worth her while, but asking so directly makes it feel transactional and that I'm not looking for just an Escort. The says that she needs to work and that she's not looking for a boyfriend for the time being. The moment being ruined, I say, "oh well maybe another time. ".
So basically she's off the table for now. Though I will concede that she may just be inexperienced and not understand how the long game works. She is pretty fun for the short game, though, so I may still go with her at the club now and then.[/QUOTE]
This reminded me of an HK girl I met not too long ago. First day we met we hit it off right away. Complete GFE and reasonably priced. Ran into her the following week, I had recently just popped with someone else, so I told her I was on my way out but would invite her for a couple drinks if she would like and she said sure. Thought this would put a damp on things but she was being very affectionate and making out with me the entire time. She asks when are we going to see each other OTC. I told her anytime she would like and she said ok but said I better come prepared because she supposedly likes to fuck for hours. Of course everything sounded great and everything but then she hit me with "it's going to cost you though". Total mood killer. I know it's going to cost me, it's pointless to say that, dummy. I was obviously going to compensate you. Then I started thinking well how much is this chick expecting? 300, 500, 1000? It was such a turn off I didn't even ask her how much. I just played it cool and finished up our drinks and told her I would catch her around next time.
The best girls never bring up money and are typically happy with whatever you give them as long as youre fair and treat them well. A lesson this girl will have to learn on her own.
Since I have plenty of other chicas in my rotation, I haven't been with that same girl since. I'll get around to seeing her again at some point, just not in a hurry to do so.
[QUOTE=Sol12;2997669]I don't get what she did wrong. Unless the two of you hadn't mentioned anything about spending the night together she just wanted to make sure you didn't think her time and sex was free. Or she just wanted to clarify you wanted.
I would say that guys try to take advantage of girls more than the girls do of guys. IMO. Since I'm not sure of every conversation you had with her and what was exactly said I would imagine that you never made it clear to her that you would compensate her for sex and since your the man you need to make sure she knows the situation and what you want.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I'm kind of weird about that. Ha Ha.
No, she did nothing wrong. I'm not upset with her and will still probably see her in HK. We had not talked about any money (or sex) leading up to this. I had just asked her if she wanted to go to this club. As I mentioned before, I have no interest in just buying a girl's time OTC. I can do that in HK. So I actually look for a girl who I think wants to be there. They can't just be punching the clock when we go out. For this reason, discussions of money are kind of awkward for me. The best I can hope for is that she will just go along with it, with the understanding that I'm going to give her something. So when she more or less asked me to pay her, my first thought is "she doesn't want to go. " And I'm not just going to sit there with someone who doesn't want to be there and is waiting for a paycheck.
As you can see, what I like is pretty rare. So I "almost" never take a girl outside the club. My view is that investing time, energy, and money in a female outside of HK requires mutual attraction, or at the very least that she likes hanging out with you. If you don't have that, just keep it in HK.
The great thing about Tijuana is that even when you get turned down by a girl (as I basically did), youv'e already had incredible sex with her several times! Ha Ha. When doed that happen in real life? It's a win win situation every time!
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2998001]Yeah, I'm kind of weird about that. Ha Ha.
No, she did nothing wrong. I'm not upset with her and will still probably see her in HK. We had not talked about any money (or sex) leading up to this. I had just asked her if she wanted to go to this club. As I mentioned before, I have no interest in just buying a girl's time OTC. I can do that in HK. So I actually look for a girl who I think wants to be there. They can't just be punching the clock when we go out. For this reason, discussions of money are kind of awkward for me. The best I can hope for is that she will just go along with it, with the understanding that I'm going to give her something. So when she more or less asked me to pay her, my first thought is "she doesn't want to go. " And I'm not just going to sit there with someone who doesn't want to be there and is waiting for a paycheck.
As you can see, what I like is pretty rare. So I "almost" never take a girl outside the club. My view is that investing time, energy, and money in a female outside of HK requires mutual attraction, or at the very least that she likes hanging out with you. If you don't have that, just keep it in HK.
The great thing about Tijuana is that even when you get turned down by a girl (as I basically did), youv'e already had incredible sex with her several times! Ha Ha. When doed that happen in real life? It's a win win situation every time![/QUOTE]Trust me I'm the same way and in my younger days I was worse. I remember a girl I would do TLN with I was asking her to be sure that she is only going with me because she wanted to and not just for the money. She got irritated and basically said if I'm with you it's because she enjoys it and not just for money.
Some girls have clients that don't understand the concept that the Zona is all fantasy and some guys think of seeing a girl outside as an actual date. I'm not saying this was your case but if this girl has a bad history of clients getting confused on what the truth is she might of wanted to be honest with you instead of trying to string you along. Especially when she said she was working and not looking for a boyfriend since she might of felt that's what you wanted. Obviously I'm just giving my point of view since I don't know all of your conversations.
[QUOTE=Sol12;2998062]Trust me I'm the same way and in my younger days I was worse. I remember a girl I would do TLN with I was asking her to be sure that she is only going with me because she wanted to and not just for the money. She got irritated and basically said if I'm with you it's because she enjoys it and not just for money.
Some girls have clients that don't understand the concept that the Zona is all fantasy and some guys think of seeing a girl outside as an actual date. I'm not saying this was your case but if this girl has a bad history of clients getting confused on what the truth is she might of wanted to be honest with you instead of trying to string you along. Especially when she said she was working and not looking for a boyfriend since she might of felt that's what you wanted. Obviously I'm just giving my point of view since I don't know all of your conversations.[/QUOTE]Well, I wouldn't go with a girl if I though I was going to be just. A "client". Would any guy? I 100% expect more than that, or at least the potential for more than that. Otherwise, it's just not worth it.
It's actually a fallacy to believe that just because a girl works at HK, you are relegated to being her client in some kind of business relationship. They are just ordinary girls when it comes down to it. They can like you or not like you just like an a girl you meet in everyday life. I know this from personal experience. I think the secret to HK is to actually realize this important fact and not somehow put the girls on a pedestal. This is hard for some guys becuase they do get all made up and present themselves as some kind of sexual fantasy, but believe me, they don't look as good the morning after. They are just normal girls.
Now, what a lot of guys get wrong is thinking they are going to jump into a non-client relationship with these girls. That's not going to happen, in general. If it's been all too easy, then, yes, you are still her client. You have to put in the time and effort to get past the client stage. Most all women, no matter what thier background, expect this time and effort to be put in order to actually let you into their lives.
For reference, the last girl I took out of the club asked me out, not the other way around. She was crazy about me (actually, she was just plain crazy, looking back). A girl like that only comes around once in a blue moon though.
[QUOTE=Sol12;2998062]Trust me I'm the same way and in my younger days I was worse. I remember a girl I would do TLN with I was asking her to be sure that she is only going with me because she wanted to and not just for the money. She got irritated and basically said if I'm with you it's because she enjoys it and not just for money.
Some girls have clients that don't understand the concept that the Zona is all fantasy and some guys think of seeing a girl outside as an actual date. I'm not saying this was your case but if this girl has a bad history of clients getting confused on what the truth is she might of wanted to be honest with you instead of trying to string you along. Especially when she said she was working and not looking for a boyfriend since she might of felt that's what you wanted. Obviously I'm just giving my point of view since I don't know all of your conversations.[/QUOTE]One more thing. The worst case is when a guy says "I'm going to pay you X dollars to do this with me" and then starts acting like she's his girlfriend. Then the guy is deluded. My technique is to draw the girls out and see what their true intentions are. And the way you do that is obviously not promising any money and see how they react. If she closes the door on any prospects beyond a client / provider relationship, we keep in in the club. If she leaves the door open, we proceed.
The details of your post indicate to me that possibly you thought you were going to get a free good time. That can happen. Obviously that is not what was on her mind.
These ladies are selling a fantasy as a job. A good business lady will make sure the expectations she has are known the first time going otc with a guy.
Have seen many locas otc. There is always a discussion on money expected the first time. The next otc visits money is never discussed. After the time in the club and the one visit these locas know they can trust me. If I am flying them into Tijuana I will bring it up before buying the plane ticket just to make sure we are on same page. I think this arrangement is fantastic. Their performance is what makes the time amazing.
Many USA sex workers want to set up so many boundaries usually defined by their pimp or someone acting like a pimp for them. These latinas deserve awards for the performances I get. USA girls are so cold I can see why some mongers may actually think they are going to be special to a girl who is just on the clock for her job.
Seen some guys think they are being worked for a visa. This happens too. Multiple girls I have seen have no interest coming to the USA. Some do of course but it is not 100% of the girls in Latin America like some people think.
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I see her a couple more times over the coming weeks. Same result. She's young, cute, and basically my type, so finally I ask her if she is free any day so we can potentially do something outside the club. She says "sure" and is recommending places we could go, which I interpret as another good sign. When we finish for the night, I indicate that I am going to text her next week to make arrangements. As we part ways, she say to me "you are going to text me, right?" and I say "yeah".
So the next week I am texting her and the deal is almost sealed when she drops this, "You are going to pay me to go out with you, right?" Damn, so close. I try to be as nice as possible. I tell her that, yes, I was going to make it worth her while, but asking so directly makes it feel transactional and that I'm not looking for just an Escort. The says that she needs to work and that she's not looking for a boyfriend for the time being. The moment being ruined, I say, "oh well maybe another time. ".
So basically she's off the table for now. Though I will concede that she may just be inexperienced and not understand how the long game works. She is pretty fun for the short game, though, so I may still go with her at the club now and then.[/QUOTE]
So you are actually trying to turn a working girl into a "relationship" of some kind?
I mean whatever makes you happy but have you considered what this ride will be like? Or you just trying to get free sex from a girl who sells sex as her job?
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2998102]Well, I wouldn't go with a girl if I though I was going to be just. A "client". Would any guy? I 100% expect more than that, or at least the potential for more than that. Otherwise, it's just not worth it.
It's actually a fallacy to believe that just because a girl works at HK, you are relegated to being her client in some kind of business relationship. They are just ordinary girls when it comes down to it. They can like you or not like you just like an a girl you meet in everyday life. I know this from personal experience. I think the secret to HK is to actually realize this important fact and not somehow put the girls on a pedestal. This is hard for some guys becuase they do get all made up and present themselves as some kind of sexual fantasy, but believe me, they don't look as good the morning after. They are just normal girls.
Now, what a lot of guys get wrong is thinking they are going to jump into a non-client relationship with these girls. That's not going to happen, in general. If it's been all too easy, then, yes, you are still her client. You have to put in the time and effort to get past the client stage. Most all women, no matter what thier background, expect this time and effort to be put in order to actually let you into their lives.
For reference, the last girl I took out of the club asked me out, not the other way around. She was crazy about me (actually, she was just plain crazy, looking back). A girl like that only comes around once in a blue moon though.[/QUOTE]
This is some of the best tactical advice, and one of the best posts, that I have seen in a long time. Thank you.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2995800]Just to add on to the discussion, don't just go around asking for quotes in HK. Talk to the girls for a little bit and then ask if they will go upstairs for $100. From my experiences, half the time they will say yes. Some might say it's not enough, but will accept $120. Very few will stand firm at 140/150. Which if they do, just move onto the next if that's too high for you. Sometimes you guys act like we're forced to pay these prices. Also don't just stick to HK. Go do some rounds of Chicago and Tropical where the girls are a lot more reasonable and open to fair offers.
Sometimes I'll just go off of vibes and will take them arriba without any discussion of money. If the session goes good I give them $120.
I think I have only had one girl, maybe two, ever ask for a little more after giving her that. If the session is bad (super rare) or mediocre I give them $100. The only time this was ever an issue was at Adelitas and I asked for a manager to step in and he surprisingly sided with me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2998128]One more thing. The worst case is when a guy says "I'm going to pay you X dollars to do this with me" and then starts acting like she's his girlfriend. Then the guy is deluded. My technique is to draw the girls out and see what their true intentions are. And the way you do that is obviously not promising any money and see how they react. If she closes the door on any prospects beyond a client / provider relationship, we keep in in the club. If she leaves the door open, we proceed.[/QUOTE]How many HK putas have you had sex with otc without giving them any cash? How many have you done that with more than once?
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2998146]How many HK putas have you had sex with otc without giving them any cash? How many have you done that with more than once?[/QUOTE]If I don't pay, I can't fack.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2998102]Well, I wouldn't go with a girl if I though I was going to be just. A "client". Would any guy? I 100% expect more than that, or at least the potential for more than that. Otherwise, it's just not worth it.
It's actually a fallacy to believe that just because a girl works at HK, you are relegated to being her client in some kind of business relationship. They are just ordinary girls when it comes down to it. They can like you or not like you just like an a girl you meet in everyday life. [/QUOTE]They can like you or not, just like any other womanbut money has to always be part of the equation. An HK girl (or any working girl) usually isnt comfortable if a former client treats her like just any regular woman. Once they know youre aware theyre putas, they relax more as long as money stays in the picture. Outside of that, no puta really chills with you for longat least, not usually. There are whole movies about this kind of dynamic.
Also, it depends on the arrangement, but her time with you has to be worth her while in some way, even if no cash changes hands. And honestly, you could argue that all interactions between men and women come down to what each person gets out of it.
[QUOTE=Hadez;2998134]So you are actually trying to turn a working girl into a "relationship" of some kind?
I mean whatever makes you happy but have you considered what this ride will be like? Or you just trying to get free sex from a girl who sells sex as her job?[/QUOTE]
Man, I've been to that mountaintop and back. People might say I'm crazy but I liked the thrill of it. I still do, but I'm more cautious now.
If a relationship opportunity presented itself, would I take it? Maybe, I don't know. I mean, anyone who spends there free time going to a w****house must have deep psychological issues, right? I'm probably as fucked up as any of the girls in there, so it's actually a good match. lol
But in the short term, if I take a girl OTC, all I really want to know is that the girl likes being there. That's basically it. Then they get the money plus a fun time. That is satisfying to me. But I get scared of easily if I feel she's not down for it.
I don't go looking for free sex. I don't have a lot of "game" so to speak. And all that game stuff just seems like a lot of work anyway so you might as well just spend the money. Spending the money has always been easier and more natural than anything else, for me.
And, if a girl likes you and you have good chemistry, she's likely going to give you a good deal. Not free, mind you, but a good deal. If it really isn't that much "work" for her to be with you she is going to give you perks. If she thinks you're an ugly boring dude and she just tolerates you for the money, you're going to have to pay the ugly boring dude price.
Let me clarify what I meant by Client / Provider relationship vs looking for more.
To me, a client / provider relationship is when she views time spent with you as work that she needs to be paid for. She may feign interest, but she really has no interest in you, sexually or otherwise, and would not spend time with you except under the condition that you pay her.
To move beyond this doesn't mean that she is "in love with you. " or that she is now your girlfriend. It simply means that she likes spending time with you, and enjoys the sex with you, so that it is understood that it really isn't a great deal of work for her to be there. Any money she receives is now just a bonus to an already fun time. In addition, she may at this time let you into her life a bit and you may get to know her circle of friends, or you may become "one of the gang". You can go into a deeper relationship from here but it's really not necessary.
If you are in the first category you are hurting. It is necessary to move into the second category to get any reasonable deal. I guess if you are rich and can just throw any amount of money at women this might not even matter that much to you, but I'm not in that boat. Thus, I need to gauge a girls level of interest carefully before preceding.
Ok I get it. I relate with a lot of what you are saying. I am with you on a lot of what you saying.
It is not hard for me to find girls who enjoy spending time with me. I treat them like they want to be treated in terms of like a lady / loca. I make sure they are happy with the financial arrangement. They do things as women and locas that I need as a man. Typically the girl starts failing on her part in some way while I remain consistent. All good, I can find another in 1 or 2 visits to the clubs. Sometimes a replacement can be found in a matter of hours. I would prefer one but I also understand this can be difficult for a person to navigate the feelings+business that will come up.
In terms of does a girl like you, do you make her climax? The clitoris does not lie once a guy knows what he is doing. I can tell quickly if a girl actually likes me or not. That is just step 1. Is she even available emotionally for what the monger wants? A lot of these girls will limit what they do with mongers because they have a guy they sharing the money with they get from working. I guess it all comes down to what exactly a monger wants from the girl. How much is good for the monger?
The "relationship" part is complicated. Sex work is so looked down on in so many areas of life it is hard to find the needed support to understand how to balance the relationship+work. Any balance between money and relationship can be difficult to negotiate even in other business. In sex work it is next level complicated.
I was running strong with one and a good friend asked me if we did get into a "relationship" do I want her to stop working? Hell no. The loca is working to support her kid, her mother, and her younger bother and sister. I can not support all of that. This on top of I have met VERY few who are good with their money considering their business. Yea I met one who is managing her expenses well while working at the club. Props to her. I met another one who is managing her expenses and finances so well she could probably qualify for a VISA to the the USA all on her own. ALL the rest could learn a lot from these two girls.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2998174]Man, I've been to that mountaintop and back. People might say I'm crazy but I liked the thrill of it. I still do, but I'm more cautious now.
If a relationship opportunity presented itself, would I take it? Maybe, I don't know. I mean, anyone who spends there free time going to a w****house must have deep psychological issues, right? I'm probably as fucked up as any of the girls in there, so it's actually a good match. lol
But in the short term, if I take a girl OTC, all I really want to know is that the girl likes being there. That's basically it. Then they get the money plus a fun time. That is satisfying to me. But I get scared of easily if I feel she's not down for it.
I don't go looking for free sex. I don't have a lot of "game" so to speak. And all that game stuff just seems like a lot of work anyway so you might as well just spend the money. Spending the money has always been easier and more natural than anything else, for me.
And, if a girl likes you and you have good chemistry, she's likely going to give you a good deal. Not free, mind you, but a good deal. If it really isn't that much "work" for her to be with you she is going to give you perks. If she thinks you're an ugly boring dude and she just tolerates you for the money, you're going to have to pay the ugly boring dude price.[/QUOTE]
The enjoying sex part is tricky for girls. Very few girls have a sex drive that can allow her to keep up with her work. The ones who actually have a sex drive that can keep up with their work may be diagnosed as flawed by a psychiatrists. I think those locas are a magnificent goddess.
Point for me, I try to be understanding if every sex moment is not as good as other moments with the same girl. As long as they doing what is needed for me, I accept what they can give. Recently with one loca the evening was magical sex, straight loca elite sexo. She was sucking everything on my body, wanting me to choke her, spank her and do all kinds of wild stuff. Then in the morning it was much more calm. She has told me she enjoys sex much more at night than morning but she will still gives me what I need in the morning. That is a good loca imo.
Another girl was not as understanding of my need in the morning. Last time her and I spent the night together. She is still trying to get back with me. A good girl, just not good enough loca for my limited resources.
It is not just sex, if I am spending OTC money, there needs to be fun of some kind. Dancing at a club. Going somewhere we both enjoy. Some kind of fun. I think this not only helps with my feeling it was worth while but if she is having fun it also helps with the sex.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2998180]Let me clarify what I meant by Client / Provider relationship vs looking for more.
To me, a client / provider relationship is when she views time spent with you as work that she needs to be paid for. She may feign interest, but she really has no interest in you, sexually or otherwise, and would not spend time with you except under the condition that you pay her.
To move beyond this doesn't mean that she is "in love with you. " or that she is now your girlfriend. It simply means that she likes spending time with you, and enjoys the sex with you, so that it is understood that it really isn't a great deal of work for her to be there. Any money she receives is now just a bonus to an already fun time. In addition, she may at this time let you into her life a bit and you may get to know her circle of friends, or you may become "one of the gang". You can go into a deeper relationship from here but it's really not necessary.
If you are in the first category you are hurting. It is necessary to move into the second category to get any reasonable deal. I guess if you are rich and can just throw any amount of money at women this might not even matter that much to you, but I'm not in that boat. Thus, I need to gauge a girls level of interest carefully before preceding.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hadez;2998279]The enjoying sex part is tricky for girls. Very few girls have a sex drive that can allow her to keep up with her work. The ones who actually have a sex drive that can keep up with their work may be diagnosed as flawed by a psychiatrists. I think those locas are a magnificent goddess.
Point for me, I try to be understanding if every sex moment is not as good as other moments with the same girl. As long as they doing what is needed for me, I accept what they can give. Recently with one loca the evening was magical sex, straight loca elite sexo. She was sucking everything on my body, wanting me to choke her, spank her and do all kinds of wild stuff. Then in the morning it was much more calm. She has told me she enjoys sex much more at night than morning but she will still gives me what I need in the morning. That is a good loca imo.
Another girl was not as understanding of my need in the morning. Last time her and I spent the night together. She is still trying to get back with me. A good girl, just not good enough loca for my limited resources.
It is not just sex, if I am spending OTC money, there needs to be fun of some kind. Dancing at a club. Going somewhere we both enjoy. Some kind of fun. I think this not only helps with my feeling it was worth while but if she is having fun it also helps with the sex.[/QUOTE]Women don't naturally get physically drained from sex the way men do. Their bodies handle it better unless they're dealing with rough sex, alcohol, drugs, or just being worn out from lack of rest. Mentally, though? That's a different story. The stigma around prostitution, the judgment from society, even from us mongers weighs on them hard and messes with their heads.
That's why it's so rare for a working girl to truly enjoy sex on the job. But (and this is a big but), if a ton of conditions line up just right (way too many to list) they can actually orgasm with a client. I've seen it happen, more than once. And I'm talking real orgasms, not just the usual fake thrusts, moans or wetness. We're talking clear physical signs of contractions, involuntary reactions, the whole deal. Trust me, I've been around long enough to know the difference.
Men, on the other hand? Orgasms do take a toll on us physically. And that effect only gets worse as we get older.
When I was first going to the Zona I would tap 5+ girls a night. A lot of them enjoyed it on some level but I would say maybe 1 per 2 visits would orgasm. The clitoris will tell me if they are getting into it. If the clitoris is doing its thing I still may not bring her to orgasm. Sometimes it takes a while for me to understand the specific motions their body requires to get off. There is definitely an emotion part of it but I can typically find the ones who enjoy me on that level in some way.
One girl in Chicago opened my mind on the weekend the clubs were open during the lockdowns for a couple days. Not talking the hotel stuff, they actually opened for a couple days using the food serving exception TJ gave out until they were told to close again. I realized latina girls were more open to being pleased than sex workers I am familiar with in USA.
Three girls from Monterrey help me with the final change a few years ago. I got to really understand what it takes to make a girl from Mexico go wild. Not all of them but I got to understand how to filter the ones out that will enjoy sex with me. Each girl allowed me to take her to the next level but they liked me for different reasons. One of them continued to try to get back with me until she disappeared in Monterrey. Another one still reaches out to me and teases me as of 2025. This one really trips me out because as I see her social media she almost always has a girlfriend and obviously prefers girls. Last time I saw her in the club she swore she was sincere with me until she found out I was also banging her friend from Monterrey. There is some drama behind that story but those three locas were some of the best I have spent time with and each taught me different lessons about latinas.
At this point a good amount of the girls I pick to have sex with experience an orgasm. Most enjoy it on some level but I like said earlier it may take me a while to understand the motions they need to push them over the top. Wish every girl needed the exact same things but that is not the way it works in my experience.
Some just fake it really good. I appreciate that too. I will enjoy these ones from the club but do not see them otc.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2998566]Women don't naturally get physically drained from sex the way men do. Their bodies handle it better unless they're dealing with rough sex, alcohol, drugs, or just being worn out from lack of rest. Mentally, though? That's a different story. The stigma around prostitution, the judgment from society, even from us mongers weighs on them hard and messes with their heads.
That's why it's so rare for a working girl to truly enjoy sex on the job. But (and this is a big but), if a ton of conditions line up just right (way too many to list) they can actually orgasm with a client. I've seen it happen, more than once. And I'm talking real orgasms, not just the usual fake thrusts, moans or wetness. We're talking clear physical signs of contractions, involuntary reactions, the whole deal. Trust me, I've been around long enough to know the difference.
Men, on the other hand? Orgasms do take a toll on us physically. And that effect only gets worse as we get older.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hadez;2999071]Wish every girl needed the exact same things but that is not the way it works in my experience.[/QUOTE]100% correct statement.
We are dealing with human emotion and its triggers, which is as diverse and numerous, a thousand ways and more. There is no formula. To me, I don't even look to satisfy my putas but myself. I do pick those who pass my criteria. Furthermore, I am confident, I am nice, I am playful, I am clean, I tip, and I know how not to press the wrong buttons of their emotions. The rest is up to them. 99% of the time I get very good sessions, which was not the case when I started this hobby a decade ago. Today, every once in a blue moon I get that gem of a woman, who happens to let go and rich ecstasy -- good for her.
Went to HK Tuesday afternoon 1 PM with wingman Rabo Verde whom I had not seen a while. He had dental appointment besides a host of health problems and back pain. We have been going to Tijuana for 25 years or so when he was in better health.
Talents were weak in the afternoon as expected. Strippers just did not look and feel glammy. Sat in HK's football booth watching sports, drinking, ogling hot girls and strippers on stage. Life is good enough with just that. A few wingmen showed up. We have known each other a few years, sharing fun in Tijuana and problems at work and home. Felt good to hang out with wingmen.
Walked around, gave propinas to hot girls, squeezed bobs, groped crotches, tried to kiss their mouths. Zare in Chavelas was beautiful, nice, trim, responded, kissed me back, a good sign. To me kissing is loving. Sex without kissing is just plugging a hole, not real sex, not worth the effort.
Invited Zare to HK to drink with wingmen but she had to go to manager for permission. Mesero said she was a noob, had to sit in Chavelas 1 hour or I had to buy her 6 drinks in HK, WTF? Took her to a dark booth in Chavelas, bought her a $11 drink. Kissed her mouth, sucked on her softest lips, squeezed her natural A cups, groped her moist crotch. She kissed back but said kissing in the room only. She felt soft and sexy all over, had a pregnancy prevention implant under her left arm, said from Culiacan, Sinaloa, just started working in Chavelas this week, denied she had any BFs or kids, gave me her tel for vacaciones in Mazatlan.
She was groping my dick while I groped her moist crotch, sucked on her soft lips. My dick was growing in the presence of a hot, sexy girl. Her breath was not clean and fresh but I really wanted to bag this nice, clean girl in bed. She wanted $150 half hour and $200 an hour. I faked shock, offered $100 but she did not bite, walked off in a huff. In retrospect, she would have been a bad session in bed.
Went out to the alley, checked on street girls. Picked up a spinner and went in hotel Mini for 600 pesos toda sin ropa. She was very nice and accommodating, offered full access, got wet and moaned softly as I toyed with her clit and her G spot. She spread her legs. I screwed her tight pussy hard for half hour straight but could not pop, had to give up. It was still probably more satisfying than a session with a stuck up, restrictive and expensive HK girl. I would have wasted $150 on Zare.
[QUOTE=Hadez;2998279]The enjoying sex part is tricky for girls. Very few girls have a sex drive that can allow her to keep up with her work. The ones who actually have a sex drive that can keep up with their work may be diagnosed as flawed by a psychiatrists. I think those locas are a magnificent goddess.
Point for me, I try to be understanding if every sex moment is not as good as other moments with the same girl. As long as they doing what is needed for me, I accept what they can give. Recently with one loca the evening was magical sex, straight loca elite sexo. She was sucking everything on my body, wanting me to choke her, spank her and do all kinds of wild stuff. Then in the morning it was much more calm. She has told me she enjoys sex much more at night than morning but she will still gives me what I need in the morning. That is a good loca imo.
[/QUOTE]By enjoying it, I meant that they actually want to have sex with you, or, at the very least, don't mind. Women don't get the same thing out of sex as men, and some women cannot even have an orgasm during straight sex. Whereas men are programmed to receive both a physical and a psychological reward from the sex itself, a woman's reward is what she receives in return for the sex, whether it be money, a relationship, love, etc. even if the sex itself is satisfying. A woman who receives nothing in return for sex will generally just feel used and not be satisfied from a mental standpoint. Maybe there are some exceptions, but for the most part, women are hard-wired to want something in return for sex. Their enjoyment is secondary to this need.
As for me, I don't worry about pleasing the woman. You can't figure that shit out no matter how hard you try. It's not like they are going to actually tell you what you like. Most of the time they don't even know themselves. I just do what I like and hope they like it too.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2998566]......That's why it's so rare for a working girl to truly enjoy sex on the job......[/QUOTE]You need to go to Brazil.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2999502]You need to go to Brazil.[/QUOTE]Been to Brazil, Sao Paolo to be specific. It was good no question, but some of us simply don't have the most precious commodity which is time. I don't have eight luxury cars in my garage, but money is less of a constraint for me than time. Losing 15-18 hours with connecting flights getting somewhere and the same getting back is simply untenable for some of us.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2999502]You need to go to Brazil.[/QUOTE]Exactly.
That line alone really shows how weak the talent is in Tijuana.
Brazilians girls love to fuck and it's part of their 3 FS (Food, Fucking and Football).
I talk to some of my Brazilians girls on a weekly basis and they are always down to fuck, video and BBFS.
Had a girl just recently ask me to fly her out to that states. No pay, she just wanted to have a little vacation around my state and we could fuck as much as I wanted.
The Tijuana girls just don't have that same energy to make it worth my time and money.
Tijuana is good for someone who only knows American strips clubs.
It's so bad and outdated when compared to Brazil and how they operate over there.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2999502]You need to go to Brazil.[/QUOTE]Any cheap flights to Brazil?
I think we on the same page as much as two people can be.
This part had me laughing so hard. Girls rarely give me feedback about sex. Even if I do get them to say something it is not specific.
On one occasion one of my favorite Monterrey girls gave me feed back. She claimed I did not notice she had an orgasm LOL. I had to tell her some girls want me to stop. Some want me to keep going. She needs to tell me which she is. She is the type who wants me to stop but not for physical reasons. She wants to orgasm and then be held. Like all girls they want us to have super powers and read their mind to know what they want.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;2999254]
As for me, I don't worry about pleasing the woman. You can't figure that shit out no matter how hard you try. It's not like they are going to actually tell you what you like. Most of the time they don't even know themselves. I just do what I like and hope they like it too.[/QUOTE]
People who say Mexican girls do not enjoy sex are WRONG.
I am not good looking. My spanish is weak. 75%+ of the girls who have sex with me enjoy it.
Now I am very good at filtering out the ones who will not be fun in bedroom.
If you a are not having fun with a mexican girl it is you, not them. Imo it is the same reason USA girls are mostly not fun. They do not allow the fun to happen. It takes two to make a fun time in bed.
If you think Mexican girls will be no fun, none of them will be fun.
If you do not care about pleasing a girl, ignore this post.
I was never going to share this. I spent over a decade gathing this information and then youtube came. Now people can learn in minutes what took me over a decade. Guess I can tell be happy it takes time to perfect the understanding.
Watch videos about pleasing the clitoris. The inside and out. The clitoris speaks to you.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;3000084]Exactly.
That line alone really shows how weak the talent is in Tijuana.
Brazilians girls love to fuck and it's part of their 3 FS (Food, Fucking and Football).
I talk to some of my Brazilians girls on a weekly basis and they are always down to fuck, video and BBFS.
Had a girl just recently ask me to fly her out to that states. No pay, she just wanted to have a little vacation around my state and we could fuck as much as I wanted.
The Tijuana girls just don't have that same energy to make it worth my time and money.
Tijuana is good for someone who only knows American strips clubs.
It's so bad and outdated when compared to Brazil and how they operate over there.[/QUOTE]If the girls in Brazil either pay you or they orgasm every time we they are with you, then what you say it true. Anything else falls in between what I wrote, essentially making all women the same.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;3000239]If the girls in Brazil either pay you or they orgasm every time we they are with you, then what you say it true. Anything else falls in between what I wrote, essentially making all women the same.[/QUOTE]Brazilian girls don't have the money to pay me so they pay with their pussy and time. I've had numerous girls fuck for free or comeback for a second round for fun. They like to go to swing clubs and have other girls at the clubs too. Flew a girl out with me for no cost to Rio and we fucked on copacabana beach. Raw and video recording. They like sex just as much as us guys.
You won't understand until you go there and experience it yourself.
Had buddies have the same experience of a girl coming over to fuck for fun and hang out all day or night. One of them came back after a year away and one of his girls baked him cookies and bought him some chocolates he mentioned a year ago and stayed at his apartment for hours.
I've yet to hear any good stories like that with the Tijuana girls. Tijuana girls got to make money too but the Brazilian girls are more carefree when they like you and will treat you like a fuckbuddy without worrying about the money at times and they clearly need it too like Tijuana girls but they enjoy a good vibe.
[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;3000066]Been to Brazil, Sao Paolo to be specific. It was good no question, but some of us simply don't have the most precious commodity which is time. I don't have eight luxury cars in my garage, but money is less of a constraint for me than time. Losing 15-18 hours with connecting flights getting somewhere and the same getting back is simply untenable for some of us.[/QUOTE]A mind blowing experience in Brazil is worth a lifetime of memory than an ok experience in Tijuana that you will forget in a few weeks.
I have direct flights to SP so I have that but at the same time I've done some connections flights and I've never regretted spending the extra time since I came back with a lifetime of memories to remember.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;3000278]A mind blowing experience in Brazil is worth a lifetime of memory than an ok experience in Tijuana that you will forget in a few weeks.
I have direct flights to SP so I have that but at the same time I've done some connections flights and I've never regretted spending the extra time since I came back with a lifetime of memories to remember.[/QUOTE]Your logic is flawed. Tijuana is not Mexico yet you're comparing it to Brazil. I primarily play in Sonora where looks and performance, at least for me, are pretty amazing. I don't really mess around with working girls there. It's Tinder all the way. A dinner date or two, drinks and boom it's on to mind blowing sex. The girls are so nice. Many cook for me when I'm in town. Aside from all that, I spend far too much time in a metal tube in the sky for work so not worth the time each way to Brazil. Period, end of story.
[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;3000282]Your logic is flawed. Tijuana is not Mexico yet you're comparing it to Brazil. I primarily play in Sonora where looks and performance, at least for me, are pretty amazing. I don't really mess around with working girls there. It's Tinder all the way. A dinner date or two, drinks and boom it's on to mind blowing sex. The girls are so nice. Many cook for me when I'm in town. Aside from all that, I spend far too much time in a metal tube in the sky for work so not worth the time each way to Brazil. Period, end of story.[/QUOTE]Tijuana is the only place with big clubs that would be comparable to brazils many clubs.
São Paulo and Rio are much bigger and so tinder and the such if you want to go that route besides the many clubs and online girls are much more abundant.
You can pick up girls at the beach if need be.
And again all the girls look more or less the same.
Brown skin, black hair, brown eyes, short.
Brazil has natural redheads, blondes, Japanese, European, black girls, tall or short, blue / green eyes and the black hair brown eyes bronze skin.
So even in that metric Brazil blows out Mexico in those terms.
Mexico City would be ok but that's more seeking and tinder and if you're there for a few days it's not a slam dunk all the time.
I luckily have the time and money to go to Brazil and it's always worth the trip.
Mexico just feels like USA lite.
Brazil feels like you are in a actual different country.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;3000372]Tijuana is the only place with big clubs that would be comparable to brazils many clubs.
So Paulo and Rio are much bigger and so tinder and the such if you want to go that route besides the many clubs and online girls are much more abundant.
You can pick up girls at the beach if need be.
And again all the girls look more or less the same.
Brown skin, black hair, brown eyes, short.
Brazil has natural redheads, blondes, Japanese, European, black girls, tall or short, blue / green eyes and the black hair brown eyes bronze skin.
So even in that metric Brazil blows out Mexico in those terms..[/QUOTE]In Sao Paulo and Rio, you have the entire city to game, it seems it is the same as Colombia. Tijuana is unique in that, it has a specific zone where certain sexual services are allowed. However it is small though, it is lively, festive and very sexual.
I agree in that Brazil has a lot more varied type of women.
I just don't think the Zona is mini USA. First off can't compare a zone in a city to an entire huge country like USA, LOL. Having said that, In the US the sexual play scene makes me puke. Truly, my stomach churns when I think about it. In the Zona, I am happy. There you go, that right there is a sign the two can't be compared.
In the zona, I noticed a certain level of prudence exists when it comes to displaying sex in public, yes it is true. The culture frowns on too much exposure. I like it, if you ask me. That is what makes playing there so exciting. If you go to USA and then Thailand, you get two extremes. Hate both.
[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;3000282]Your logic is flawed. Tijuana is not Mexico yet you're comparing it to Brazil. I primarily play in Sonora where looks and performance, at least for me, are pretty amazing. I don't really mess around with working girls there. It's Tinder all the way. A dinner date or two, drinks and boom it's on to mind blowing sex. The girls are so nice. Many cook for me when I'm in town. Aside from all that, I spend far too much time in a metal tube in the sky for work so not worth the time each way to Brazil. Period, end of story.[/QUOTE]Where do you monger in Sonora? Nogales?
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;3000744]Where do you monger in Sonora? Nogales?[/QUOTE]All over man. I've done civvies and pros in Guaymas, Hermosillo, Nogales and Obregon. I once even went to Caborca to pop a chica who I met in Tinder.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;3000084]Exactly.
That line alone really shows how weak the talent is in Tijuana.
Brazilians girls love to fuck and it's part of their 3 FS (Food, Fucking and Football).
I talk to some of my Brazilians girls on a weekly basis and they are always down to fuck, video and BBFS.
Had a girl just recently ask me to fly her out to that states. No pay, she just wanted to have a little vacation around my state and we could fuck as much as I wanted.
The Tijuana girls just don't have that same energy to make it worth my time and money.
Tijuana is good for someone who only knows American strips clubs.
It's so bad and outdated when compared to Brazil and how they operate over there.[/QUOTE]It's just too far away, man. I wouldn't mind living in Brazil for a while, but I'm not going to go there when Tijuana is next door. You will spend 1000's of dollars in travel expenses which will put a damper on any superiority that Brazil might have.
Tijuana is surprising good considering its proximity to the US. If you think about, Tijuana only has to be one notch above the USA to keep guys coming back, and I would say, in fact, it's several notches above. Mexican women are not at war with men, constantly shaming them and trying to make them conform to their standards. They seemed to be resigned to the fact that men are dogs and different from women, but they don't hate men. They are, in many cases, unaware of how bad men have it here. Thank god for that, because if they knew they could get away with being a lot worse and still be better than American women. Shhhh don't tell them.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;3000800]It's just too far away, man. I wouldn't mind living in Brazil for a while, but I'm not going to go there when Tijuana is next door. You will spend 1000's of dollars in travel expenses which will put a damper on any superiority that Brazil might have.
Tijuana is surprising good considering its proximity to the US. If you think about, Tijuana only has to be one notch above the USA to keep guys coming back, and I would say, in fact, it's several notches above. Mexican women are not at war with men, constantly shaming them and trying to make them conform to their standards. They seemed to be resigned to the fact that men are dogs and different from women, but they don't hate men. They are, in many cases, unaware of how bad men have it here. Thank god for that, because if they knew they could get away with being a lot worse and still be better than American women. Shhhh don't tell them.[/QUOTE]I'm in the east coast and I have a non stop to sao paulo which is 8 hrs but I always take the redeye so I can get some sleep anyways.
Tijuana for me is 4/5 hrs if I go to san Diego or directly to Tijuana.
The cost for me to fly directly to Tijuana is only like $150 lower than going to Brazil.
Tijuana is like the fancy McDonald's compared to normal McDonald's. Yea its a bit better but its just cheap shit.
The small amount of women is sad (I know you could probably explore more girls outside the zone but at that point it becomes work and less enjoyable).
Variety isn't there.
Not as sexually good as Brazilians with threesomes, recording, swing clubs, public sex, etc. Brazilian girls are wild.
Accommodations in SP are first class and don't cost more than a hotel in Tijuana above HK or the other clubs.
Way better food and places to tour.
More seeking girls, online girls and locals.
I personally like Montreal better than Tijuana.
You have Latina girls up there with the europeans and French Canadians.
Better hotels and nice city to explore.
Tijuana really is like Atlantic City to São Paulo's Las Vegas.
If I'm going to gamble I will spend that little extra to do it big and better and honestly you don't even have to gamble to have a good time.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;3000484]In Sao Paulo and Rio, you have the entire city to game, it seems it is the same as Colombia. Tijuana is unique in that, it has a specific zone where certain sexual services are allowed. However it is small though, it is lively, festive and very sexual.
I agree in that Brazil has a lot more varied type of women.
I just don't think the Zona is mini USA. First off can't compare a zone in a city to an entire huge country like USA, LOL. Having said that, In the US the sexual play scene makes me puke. Truly, my stomach churns when I think about it. In the Zona, I am happy. There you go, that right there is a sign the two can't be compared.
In the zona, I noticed a certain level of prudence exists when it comes to displaying sex in public, yes it is true. The culture frowns on too much exposure. I like it, if you ask me. That is what makes playing there so exciting. If you go to USA and then Thailand, you get two extremes. Hate both.[/QUOTE]It does feel like a mini USA since everyone takes dollars and EXPECTS A FUCKING TIP like its the fucking US (hate that shit so fucking much).
Its also crawling with Americans and the clubs don't really seem that much different from strips club here in the USA except you don't have to be lowkey about fucking the girls.
I don't like the prudence that the Mexicans adopted too.
Brazil they have sex motels every other corner and sex shops all around.
The nice hotels have girls waiting at the bar.
Its very free and open out there but in a classy way.
Tijuana is just not amazing.
I would consider São Paulo, Barcelona, Rio, Montreal ahead of Tijuana.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;3000807]I'm in the east coast and I have a non stop to sao paulo which is 8 hrs but I always take the redeye so I can get some sleep anyways.
Tijuana for me is 4/5 hrs if I go to san Diego or directly to Tijuana.
The cost for me to fly directly to Tijuana is only like $150 lower than going to Brazil.
Tijuana is like the fancy McDonald's compared to normal McDonald's. Yea its a bit better but its just cheap shit.
The small amount of women is sad (I know you could probably explore more girls outside the zone but at that point it becomes work and less enjoyable).
Variety isn't there.
Not as sexually good as Brazilians with threesomes, recording, swing clubs, public sex, etc. Brazilian girls are wild.
Accommodations in SP are first class and don't cost more than a hotel in Tijuana above HK or the other clubs.
Way better food and places to tour.
More seeking girls, online girls and locals.
I personally like Montreal better than Tijuana.
You have Latina girls up there with the europeans and French Canadians.
Better hotels and nice city to explore.
Tijuana really is like Atlantic City to So Paulo's Las Vegas.
If I'm going to gamble I will spend that little extra to do it big and better and honestly you don't even have to gamble to have a good time.[/QUOTE]I see. That makes sense. If you're kind of far away from both, why not go to Brazil. Brazil and Montreal are places that people might actually want to visit, aside from just sex tourism. Tijuana is like the last place on earth anyone would want to go for a vacation (San Diego is pretty nice though).
It seems you are judging Tijuana inside the club (maybe hotel escort) against Brazil outside the club.
I been enjoying Mexico girls outside the club on vacations for years. Not saying it would be impossible to get better but it would be very difficult. Girls from CDMX, Monterrey, Durango, Sonora and other areas.
Have you tried taking a Mexican girl some where besides a Tijuana hotel of some kind?
Yes a Mexican girl is better in Bacalar than a Tijuana hotel. That is not the girl, that is the vacation environment. Yes a Mexican girl is better in Playa Del Carmen than a Tijuana hotel. That is not the girl, that is the vacation environment. Yes a Mexican girl is better in Monterrey than a Tijuana hotel. Again all comparisons same exact girl, more fun away from a Tijuana hotel. Has nothing to do with the girl.
Maybe the "perfect" girl exists in Brazil but I been mongering girls for decades and ultimately humans are humans. There are always pros and cons.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;3000084]Exactly.
That line alone really shows how weak the talent is in Tijuana.
Brazilians girls love to fuck and it's part of their 3 FS (Food, Fucking and Football).
I talk to some of my Brazilians girls on a weekly basis and they are always down to fuck, video and BBFS.
Had a girl just recently ask me to fly her out to that states. No pay, she just wanted to have a little vacation around my state and we could fuck as much as I wanted.
The Tijuana girls just don't have that same energy to make it worth my time and money.
Tijuana is good for someone who only knows American strips clubs.
It's so bad and outdated when compared to Brazil and how they operate over there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bearsi;3000084]Exactly.
Had a girl just recently ask me to fly her out to that states. No pay, she just wanted to have a little vacation around my state and we could fuck as much as I wanted.
[/QUOTE]Brazilians need a visa to visit the US, right? How do you guys handle that? Or do some girls already have the visa?
[QUOTE=Bearsi;3000809]It does feel like a mini USA since everyone takes dollars and EXPECTS A FUCKING TIP like its the fucking US (hate that shit so fucking much).
Its also crawling with Americans and the clubs don't really seem that much different from strips club here in the USA except you don't have to be lowkey about fucking the girls.
I don't like the prudence that the Mexicans adopted too.
Brazil they have sex motels every other corner and sex shops all around.
The nice hotels have girls waiting at the bar.
Its very free and open out there but in a classy way.
Tijuana is just not amazing.
I would consider So Paulo, Barcelona, Rio, Montreal ahead of Tijuana.[/QUOTE]Now I am curious about Brazil. I checked out the Brazil section here. I got to tell you, it is a maze for a new guy like me for the country to navigate what is being discussed. It is just short of a disaster. I wrote multiple times these pages need sticky sections where newbie info is kept. Is there a write up or a forum or column you know about that discusses about matters that apply to newbies?
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;2998170]If I don't pay, I can't fack.[/QUOTE]100% true. I've been doing this for a while and had several very "close" relationships with chicas in HK that I've taken out of the club on more occasions than I can count.
But bottom line is. No matter how close we were or even if she was my girlfriend which she was. Money had to be in the equation or she would dump my ass. And LOTS of money has to be in the equation otherwise they're better off just spending their time sleeping with other men in the club every hour.
Thats the reality. Even if they like you and develop a real relationship with you, the two of you still ultimately met in a hooker bar and everything you do is transactional. There has to be money and MORE of it if you want to be more than just a client.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;3000945]Now I am curious about Brazil. I checked out the Brazil section here. I got to tell you, it is a maze for a new guy like me for the country to navigate what is being discussed. It is just short of a disaster. I wrote multiple times these pages need sticky sections where newbie info is kept. Is there a write up or a forum or column you know about that discusses about matters that apply to newbies?[/QUOTE]I also want to know! There are some good threads in the SP forum, but you have to dig back a bit.
First prize BMW.
2nd prize $5,000.
3rd prize $3,000.
Looks like a big, fun event. Like previous years all hottest chicas will be there to cheer on their stripper friends.
Couple wingmen will party and romance hot girls all night. Anybody going?
[QUOTE=HKMonger;3000800]It's just too far away, man. I wouldn't mind living in Brazil for a while, but I'm not going to go there when Tijuana is next door. You will spend 1000's of dollars in travel expenses which will put a damper on any superiority that Brazil might have.
Tijuana is surprising good considering its proximity to the US. If you think about, Tijuana only has to be one notch above the USA to keep guys coming back, and I would say, in fact, it's several notches above. Mexican women are not at war with men, constantly shaming them and trying to make them conform to their standards. They seemed to be resigned to the fact that men are dogs and different from women, but they don't hate men. They are, in many cases, unaware of how bad men have it here. Thank god for that, because if they knew they could get away with being a lot worse and still be better than American women. Shhhh don't tell them.[/QUOTE]I agree with HK Monger, Brazil is too far. Maybe the girls in Brazil look better but the whole trip there airfare, hotels, food etc. Is too expensive. My transport cost to Tijuana is $11. Trolley from trolley parking where parking is free $5 r/ t and HK Limo from border to HK are r / t $6. The recipe for a successful visit is a VIP card HK or Tropical, a room at Cascadas or Rizo for a discounted price on Monday or Tuesday. Three or four well known regular girls to choose from who know what the client needs. Also a 20% discount on dinner at Azul or Sienda Norte with VIP card. I don't need anything more and I can be in Tijuana every week.
[QUOTE=ABAJoeSmith123;3000946]100% true. I've been doing this for a while and had several very "close" relationships with chicas in HK that I've taken out of the club on more occasions than I can count.
But bottom line is. No matter how close we were or even if she was my girlfriend which she was. Money had to be in the equation or she would dump my ass. And LOTS of money has to be in the equation otherwise they're better off just spending their time sleeping with other men in the club every hour.
Thats the reality. Even if they like you and develop a real relationship with you, the two of you still ultimately met in a hooker bar and everything you do is transactional. There has to be money and MORE of it if you want to be more than just a client.[/QUOTE]"No cash no play" is true of any relationship. Good luck finding any type of girlfriend if you've got no money to spend on them. This becomes more and more true the older you get. If you are over 30, no woman is going to come around just to watch you play video games.
"And LOTS of money has to be in the equation otherwise they're better off just spending their time sleeping with other men in the club every hour. " -- This is what YOU are thinking but not necessarily what SHE is thinking. A lot of guys psych themselves out thinking that "If I don't pay her what she could make in HK she's going to dump me. " Girls think emotionally, not logically, so I would say its not as cut and dried as this.
How much money you actually need to spend depends on the girl and her mentality. Remember that many of the girls don't like working at HK. Sleeping with random dudes is not what most women like, obviously. Also, they are not even guaranteed any money when they go there. Some girls stand there all night without a single client. Thus, if you can offer them a consistent source of financial support, and they like being with you, you don't really have to compete with what they could "potentially" make at HK.
Now, if you want exclusivity, you are going to have to pay more, and probably you are going to have to support her, because you are essentially cutting off her other sources of income. Unless you expect her to live in the streets while waiting for you to come around every once and a while!
The bottom line is finding a good deal. If it works for you and for the girl, I say go for it.
I would say that the girls who are working all the time tend not to be good deals for extra curricular activities. Their tolerance for this life is high so that, yes, they may try to make you compete with HK in terms of dollar amounts. Fresh girls, or girls who are there only off and on, are often better options because they have a lower tolerance for the club life and are generally more open to alternative arrangements.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;3001073]First prize BMW.
2nd prize $5,000.
3rd prize $3,000.
Looks like a big, fun event. Like previous years all hottest chicas will be there to cheer on their stripper friends.
Couple wingmen will party and romance hot girls all night. Anybody going?[/QUOTE]Wow BMW! $5000, $3000! A lot of money given to the prizes! That's why LOS Angeles has a budget deficit of $1 billion and San Diego has $250 million budget deficit because we spend all our money in Tijuana! Later this Chica Vip show can be watched on the TV in the room at the Cascadas hotel channel 60 something, maybe 64 or 65. They always show it.
[QUOTE=ABAJoeSmith123;3000946]Even if they like you and develop a real relationship with you, the two of you still ultimately met in a hooker bar and everything you do is transactional.[/QUOTE]Great point. How you met her is critical. She can be a working girl but if you met her for the first time outside of that setting, there's a different dynamic.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;3000372]Tijuana is the only place with big clubs that would be comparable to brazils many clubs.
So Paulo and Rio are much bigger and so tinder and the such if you want to go that route besides the many clubs and online girls are much more abundant.
You can pick up girls at the beach if need be.
And again all the girls look more or less the same.
Brown skin, black hair, brown eyes, short.
Brazil has natural redheads, blondes, Japanese, European, black girls, tall or short, blue / green eyes and the black hair brown eyes bronze skin.
So even in that metric Brazil blows out Mexico in those terms.
Mexico City would be ok but that's more seeking and tinder and if you're there for a few days it's not a slam dunk all the time..[/QUOTE]Been to Brazil many times, and makes me keep coming back, eventhough I only live 30 minutes from southern border.
[QUOTE=Hadez;3000855]It seems you are judging Tijuana inside the club (maybe hotel escort) against Brazil outside the club.
I been enjoying Mexico girls outside the club on vacations for years. Not saying it would be impossible to get better but it would be very difficult. Girls from CDMX, Monterrey, Durango, Sonora and other areas.
Have you tried taking a Mexican girl some where besides a Tijuana hotel of some kind?
Yes a Mexican girl is better in Bacalar than a Tijuana hotel. That is not the girl, that is the vacation environment. Yes a Mexican girl is better in Playa Del Carmen than a Tijuana hotel. That is not the girl, that is the vacation environment. Yes a Mexican girl is better in Monterrey than a Tijuana hotel. Again all comparisons same exact girl, more fun away from a Tijuana hotel. Has nothing to do with the girl.
Maybe the "perfect" girl exists in Brazil but I been mongering girls for decades and ultimately humans are humans. There are always pros and cons.[/QUOTE]It has everything to do with the girl.
Brazilian girls are just more hot and have better attitudes towards sex and foreign guys in general.
The Brazilian bunda (ass) is legendary for a reason and why all the American and Mexican girls try to copy it although the Brazilian girls have it naturally.
It was so sad to see all the flat asses in Tijuana.
A good amount of fake BBL and only a handful of natural nice ass.
I flew girls out to rio from SP for nothing.
They just wanted a trip and to fuck.
I remember one time it was raining almost the whole week and the girl never complained and even stayed longer just so we could have more time to hang out.
This girl was crazy hot too.
Natural redhead with a big ass that loved to do everything except threesomes since she was the jealous type.
also needed a place to crash with a friend since our plane landed very early and one of my girls let us stay at her place and leave our bags while we went out to explore. she offered to cook us lunch and we hung out with her daughters. then I missed my plane going back and she let me stay at her place again and sleep. she knew I was banging other girls but she just liked to be helpful and nice. took me to her moms house where we ate some dinner. the girls are super nice and helpful and she didn't want a single cent but I ended up pay for her and her girls to go to a theme park as a thank you
I've noticed the Mexican girls have been adopting a lot of attitudes like American girls.
Very transactional.
Very snooty.
No sense of actual fun outside of the club without payment first.
If I really wanted a Mexican girl I could just find some tinder or seeking hoes back home. Tons of Mexicans around here so I'm not missing much.
[QUOTE=Chupacabra;3000944]Brazilians need a visa to visit the US, right? How do you guys handle that? Or do some girls already have the visa?[/QUOTE]Yea its tough.
I know a few girls with visas but the majority don't.
Usually guys will just fly a place in Europe and bring their girl since they don't require visas over there. A little vacation with good company.
Also other parts of south America.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;3000945]Now I am curious about Brazil. I checked out the Brazil section here. I got to tell you, it is a maze for a new guy like me for the country to navigate what is being discussed. It is just short of a disaster. I wrote multiple times these pages need sticky sections where newbie info is kept. Is there a write up or a forum or column you know about that discusses about matters that apply to newbies?[/QUOTE]Honestly just read the first 5 pages of the forum and there will be someone detailing the places they went and where it is and how much it is.
SP and Rio are the popular places.
SP has way more clubs and girls and very easy to navigate honestly. Just google maps the clubs and take the uber there easy.
Its very safe and not very hard to get around.
Just need cell service and your debit card to take money out of an ATM and credit card.
Rio is more fun with beaches and hikes and stuff.
Not as many girls and clubs but still a good amount.
Also easy to find the big clubs.
[QUOTE=StRobert;3001114]I agree with HK Monger, Brazil is too far. Maybe the girls in Brazil look better but the whole trip there airfare, hotels, food etc. Is too expensive. My transport cost to Tijuana is $11. Trolley from trolley parking where parking is free $5 r/ t and HK Limo from border to HK are r / t $6. The recipe for a successful visit is a VIP card HK or Tropical, a room at Cascadas or Rizo for a discounted price on Monday or Tuesday. Three or four well known regular girls to choose from who know what the client needs. Also a 20% discount on dinner at Azul or Sienda Norte with VIP card. I don't need anything more and I can be in Tijuana every week.[/QUOTE]I'm not spending my time (I can never get my time back, money I always make back) to fuck 5's and 6's.
I want to spend my time fucking 8's and 9's that can fuck.
I can buy a meal at burger king and have an ok meal but there's a reason we roll up to a nice restaurant to get that nice piece that makes it all worth it.
that's the one thing I noticed in this page is that almost all the guys never say they saw the hottest girl in the world in TJ or had some crazy experience with one that was the best of their whole life
while in the SP and Rio page its almost every guy who tells crazy stories and fucked gems and hotties who were lawyers or doctors or an actress and did crazy shit
that's what is really lacking in my opinion and I can't just settle for "ok"
[QUOTE=Mlee3;3001299]Been to Brazil many times, and makes me keep coming back, eventhough I only live 30 minutes from southern border.[/QUOTE]Bora mano.
The next drink is on me if we're in Brazil at the same time bro.
""No cash no play" is true of any relationship. Good luck finding any type of girlfriend if you've got no money to spend on them. ".
Yes, money is required for any relationship. However, you're missing a key point which is likely due to your lack of experiencing dating a working girl.
When you are in a relationship with a working girl you're giving her large amounts of money (rent, food, family, monthly donations) that are likely several hundreds of dollars each time (not the simple $100 to go arriba). If you want her to stop banging other men you'll have to supplement that supposedly lost income as well which could be $1000+ per month depending on how sharky your chica is. You have to be ok with this and know that it doesn't end.
When you're in a relationship with a normal person (say someone you knew from school) who has a steady normal job, they're aren't asking you for $1000 each time they hang out with you. Sure you may pay for meals and the weekend getaway with your normal girlfriend, but they're all small fish amounts compared to the monthly demands of probably at least several hundred to $1000 you'll have to spend each month on a working girl.
So yes, "no cash no play" applies to all relationships but to a VERY different degree when we are talking about HK chicas.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;3001372]A good amount of fake BBL and only a handful of natural nice ass.[/QUOTE]Thank God I am not into fat assess, I am into feet, which Mexican women have. The mixture of Southern Europe and Native genes has created women with some of the sexiest feet on earth in Mexico.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;3001372]It has everything to do with the girl.
Brazilian girls are just more hot and have better attitudes towards sex and foreign guys in general.
The Brazilian bunda (ass) is legendary for a reason and why all the American and Mexican girls try to copy it although the Brazilian girls have it naturally.
It was so sad to see all the flat asses in Tijuana.
A good amount of fake BBL and only a handful of natural nice ass.
[/QUOTE]Not a fan of big round asses. I like them skinny with smaller tits and ass. Is that easy to find in Brazil? The majority of mexican girls are too curvy for my tastes, in fact, but some of them are super skinny and crazy hot. The hottest mexican girls rival girls anywhere else in the world.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;3001378]That's the one thing I noticed in this page is that almost all the guys never say they saw the hottest girl in the world in TJ or had some crazy experience with one that was the best of their whole life
while in the SP and Rio page its almost every guy who tells crazy stories and fucked gems and hotties who were lawyers or doctors or an actress and did crazy shit
that's what is really lacking in my opinion and I can't just settle for "ok"[/QUOTE]Dude, you know why that is? It's because that once in a lifetime experience those guys are talking about. Well, I'm having that almost every week in Tijuana! Ha Ha.
It becomes so commonplace to go down there and fuck young 8's 9's and 10's that it's no longer a big deal. It's just another week in Tijuana.
Yes, guys who live near Tijuana are spoiled.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;3001439]Dude, you know why that is? It's because that once in a lifetime experience those guys are talking about. Well, I'm having that almost every week in Tijuana! Ha Ha.
It becomes so commonplace to go down there and fuck young 8's 9's and 10's that it's no longer a big deal. It's just another week in Tijuana.
Yes, guys who live near Tijuana are spoiled.[/QUOTE]
Agreed.
I don't think this forum cares much for experiences that can't be summed up within a paragraph or two, otherwise I would share some very recent wild stories with HK girls. If some guys want to believe the girls aren't sexy or crazy in bed, more for us I guess LOL.
All they're basically admitting is that they don't know where to look. You don't just walk through the curtains and go up to the first hot chick you see. Theres an art to being able to pick out which girls are going to give you the biggest bang for your buck. Just a few days ago I had a newer girl at HK come back to my room at Rizo after her shift was over at 5am. She didn't leave until 9 and didn't charge me anything at all. This was after we had already done a threesome with another girl a couple hours before that.
Guys, going to Tijuana every couple weeks or so, have regular deals with hot HK girls, GFE, BBFS all night for $100 or so.
Many girls, got fired or quit HK, would continue to meet guys for long sessions at discount. Sad to say but quite a few hot young girls sleep with guys to support BFs and kids. Safe to assume they all have BFs who knows and let them sell sex to support their lifestyles.
Lots of guys work in San Diego, have second or third wife in Tijuana. My gardener has wives and kids both sides of the border. Lots of sad stories and desperation.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;3001563]Lots of guys work in San Diego, have second or third wife in Tijuana. My gardener has wives and kids both sides of the border. Lots of sad stories and desperation.[/QUOTE]The trick is you have a US GF that doesn't have papers so she can't leave the country, and you have a MX GF that doesn't have a visa so she can't cross into the US. Ne'er the twain shall meet, LOL.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;3001563]Guys, going to Tijuana every couple weeks or so, have regular deals with hot HK girls, GFE, BBFS all night for $100 or so.
Many girls, got fired or quit HK, would continue to meet guys for long sessions at discount. Sad to say but quite a few hot young girls sleep with guys to support BFs and kids. Safe to assume they all have BFs who knows and let them sell sex to support their lifestyles.
Lots of guys work in San Diego, have second or third wife in Tijuana. My gardener has wives and kids both sides of the border. Lots of sad stories and desperation.[/QUOTE]Some boyfriends then have definitely tasted my cum.
Nice arrangements. I wish I know a few girls without papers.
[URL]Classificados.com[/URL] lists lots of girls available for sex in SoCal, Mexicans and other Latin Americans, most with fake pics. They work out of fleabag motels, some with luggage still unpacked.
[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;3001654]Some boyfriends then have definitely tasted my cum.[/QUOTE]I hate to be the one to point this out buddy, but if you kiss / DATY these chicks then logically you have also tasted their boyfriends' cum.
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;3001950]I hate to be the one to point this out buddy, but if you kiss / DATY these chicks then logically you have also tasted their boyfriends' cum.[/QUOTE]I don't eat working girl pussy and not really into kissing either. I'm more about face down, ass up because that's the way I like to fuck.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;3001434]Not a fan of big round asses. I like them skinny with smaller tits and ass. Is that easy to find in Brazil? The majority of mexican girls are too curvy for my tastes, in fact, but some of them are super skinny and crazy hot. The hottest mexican girls rival girls anywhere else in the world.[/QUOTE]Yes it is easy to find skinny Brazilians girls with small tits and ass. That's why all the Asian guys go over there for that very reason.
You can literally find any type of girl in São Paulo. 6 ft tall volleyball blonde, 4'10 redhead, black girl with curly hair, Japanese girl with straight jet black hair, girls with lots of tattoos, GND, etc. Again these options are not available in Tijuana or very rare. The little zone in Tijuana can't compete with the largest city in both north and South America with over 22 million people and girls flying all over Brazil and other countries filling those clubs.
I'm guessing your standards are low because the majority of girls in Tijuana were just like average looking Mexican girls you could find in the Cali that you wouldn't want to fuck there. I only saw like 4-5 girls that impressed me from the combined 3 clubs put together.
You can find legitimate models in the SP clubs (had a friend who did a girl and saw her photos on some billboards in Europe like a few weeks later).
Tijuana girls are just like random Mexican girls you can find anywhere in the USA.
[QUOTE=HKMonger;3001439]Dude, you know why that is? It's because that once in a lifetime experience those guys are talking about. Well, I'm having that almost every week in Tijuana! Ha Ha.
It becomes so commonplace to go down there and fuck young 8's 9's and 10's that it's no longer a big deal. It's just another week in Tijuana.
Yes, guys who live near Tijuana are spoiled.[/QUOTE]There are no 10's in Tijuana.
8's is probably the highest I would give.
Your numbers are skewed to your low standards.
Tijuana is such a small area to play in.
To each their own.
[QUOTE=StubbornMule;3001950]I hate to be the one to point this out buddy, but if you kiss / DATY these chicks then logically you have also tasted their boyfriends' cum.[/QUOTE]Haha yea this guy is acting like he isn't the one paying for sloppy seconds while the BF is spending his money.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;3001985]There are no 10's in Tijuana.
8's is probably the highest I would give.
Your numbers are skewed to your low standards.
Tijuana is such a small area to play in.
To each their own.[/QUOTE]Dude, are you on the Brazilian tourism board?
We get it. You think Brazil is awesome and Tijuana sucks. But this a Tijuana thread. I can read about Brazil over in their own forum.
[QUOTE=JamBoy3;3002032]Dude, are you on the Brazilian tourism board?
We get it. You think Brazil is awesome and Tijuana sucks. But this a Tijuana thread. I can read about Brazil over in their own forum.[/QUOTE]You basically said what I was going to say but did so more diplomatically. I was going to suggest to other posters to stop feeding the troll. Going on a thread and putting up over a dozen posts about how great someplace far, far away is attention seeking behavior at it's finest (worst).
[QUOTE=JamBoy3;3002032]Dude, are you on the Brazilian tourism board?
We get it. You think Brazil is awesome and Tijuana sucks. But this a Tijuana thread. I can read about Brazil over in their own forum.[/QUOTE]Agree. I asked him to give me specifics what to do about mongering in Brazil, he gave me some vague reply. Keeps saying Brazil is monger's heaven though, makes me believe he probably doesn't know, because the reason of his intense campaign here is not clear.
[QUOTE=JamBoy3;3002032]Dude, are you on the Brazilian tourism board?
We get it. You think Brazil is awesome and Tijuana sucks. But this a Tijuana thread. I can read about Brazil over in their own forum.[/QUOTE]Like I said to each their own.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;3002091]Agree. I asked him to give me specifics what to do about mongering in Brazil, he gave me some vague reply. Keeps saying Brazil is heaven though, makes me believe he probably doesn't know, because his campaign here doesn't make sense.[/QUOTE]You can read my previous extensive reports where I posted every single thing I did in SP and Rio with tons of info.
I also wrote my report on Tijuana.
Tijuana just has a small zone, with some extra elbow grease you can find more I know but then it can become convoluted or dangerous.
SP and Rio have much bigger population and zones to explore so it depends what your style is.
That's a lot to write about especially in a Tijuana forum.
You guys claim Tijuana is heaven and I just wholeheartedly disagree and would rather do Barcelona or Montreal even before here BUT THATS JUST MY OPINION.
Do whatever you want.
I've just traveled more and seen better places or at least better places for myself.
Whatever.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;3002096]You can read my previous extensive reports where I posted every single thing I did in SP and Rio with tons of info.
I also wrote my report on Tijuana.
Tijuana just has a small zone, with some extra elbow grease you can find more I know but then it can become convoluted or dangerous.
SP and Rio have much bigger population and zones to explore so it depends what your style is.
That's a lot to write about especially in a Tijuana forum.
You guys claim Tijuana is heaven and I just wholeheartedly disagree and would rather do Barcelona or Montreal even before here BUT THATS JUST MY OPINION.
Do whatever you want.
I've just traveled more and seen better places or at least better places for myself.
Whatever.[/QUOTE]Guys give an opinion all the time and that's fine but they usually don't do it a dozen plus times. That's odd.
Welp, one of my HK girls just got flown out to Dubai. Yall know what that means LOL.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;3002106]Another vague reply, no link, nothing. I already tried the Brazilian forum. It is a maze. Dude, you are wasting your and other's time.[/QUOTE]It's not a maze.
You just need to read.
Its pretty simple stuff.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;3002425]Welp, one of my HK girls just got flown out to Dubai. Yall know what that means LOL.[/QUOTE]Hopefully not a Dubai porty potty experience. [URL]https://youtu.be/ryuOrF2KH0c?si=cagIuuNv0vDkuGZ6[/URL].
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;3002121]It seems the Admins in the Brazilian forum agree with us here about you exactly for the same reason. My dude! LOL.
Forum:Brazil.
Date:09-15-24
Thread:Rio de Janeiro Reports.
Posted By:Bearsi.
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EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because the content of the report was pointless, unproductive drama. Please read the Forum FAQ and the Forum's Posting Guidelines for.[/QUOTE]Was joking with a guy on the forum and seems some people didn't enjoy the chuckles.
It is what it is.
My reports have been on the links to reports of distinctions so I've put alot of good info and experiences over the years.
I've done my part and also made my report about Tijuana and yea I didn't like it and I've talked to others who have done Brazil and Tijuana and all would agree Brazil is better. Tijuana is easier to access but that's all it has going for it for the most part over Brazil. I'm just writing from a perspective of someone who has tried both and can warner brother from making a trip here and having a ok time but not an amazing time. For the brazilian bros, Tijuana is not a suitable replacement for Brazil. Spain would be the better option, barcelona or madrid.
I'm not convincing anyone to go to Brazil. Stay in Tijuana. Brazil is special because it hasnt been invaded by gringos like mexico and Colombia.
The less gringos the better.
The long flight and language barrier is the main obstacle and why the girls there are still some of the most down to earth and chill ones you will meet.
Please stay in Tijuana.
Hey all,
Is anything happening in HK?
I think I will stay clear of the place because of Mothers Day.
BTY, If I want information about Brazil, I will read that forum!
[QUOTE=TomJackin;3002450]Hey all,
Is anything happening in HK?
I think I will stay clear of the place because of Mothers Day.
BTY, If I want information about Brazil, I will read that forum![/QUOTE]Mother's Day might be the perfect time to go. A bunch of girls without the responsibilities of having children and / or don't talk to their own mother's.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;3002447]Yea your right.
Tijuana's zona area is heaven on earth.
Stay in Tijuana.
There's nothing better out there.
I'll make it extra nice by not setting foot there ever again and let yall enjoy the fruits.[/QUOTE]BTW "Starting April 10,2025, American citizens will need a visa to enter Brazil. This includes tourists, business travelers, and those engaging in other temporary activities. The visa will be an e-visa, which can be obtained online. The e-visa is valid for multiple entries over 5 years.
Here's what you need to know:
New Visa Requirement: The Brazilian government will reinstate a visa requirement for all USA Nationals visiting Brazil, effective April 10,2025.
Electronic Visa: You will need to apply for an e-visa online.
Application: You'll need to fill out the online application form, pay the fee (currently $80.90), and provide supporting documents like a passport, passport-style photo, and proof of funds.
Validity: The e-visa is valid for multiple entries over 5 years.
Stays: Stays in Brazil are limited to 90 days per year.
Proof of Funds: Applicants must show proof of at least $2,000 USD in available funds.
Return / Onward Flight: You'll also need to provide proof of a return or onward flight. ".
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[QUOTE=TomJackin;3002450]
BTY, If I want information about Brazil, I will read that forum![/QUOTE]Your statement above makes perfect sense to everyone except to a troll.
[QUOTE=StRobert;3002482]BTW "Starting April 10,2025, American citizens will need a visa to enter Brazil. This includes tourists, business travelers, and those engaging in other temporary activities. The visa will be an e-visa, which can be obtained online. The e-visa is valid for multiple entries over 5 years.
Here's what you need to know:
New Visa Requirement: The Brazilian government will reinstate a visa requirement for all USA Nationals visiting Brazil, effective April 10,2025.
Electronic Visa: You will need to apply for an e-visa online.
Application: You'll need to fill out the online application form, pay the fee (currently $80.90), and provide supporting documents like a passport, passport-style photo, and proof of funds.
Validity: The e-visa is valid for multiple entries over 5 years.
Stays: Stays in Brazil are limited to 90 days per year.
Proof of Funds: Applicants must show proof of at least $2,000 USD in available funds.
Return / Onward Flight: You'll also need to provide proof of a return or onward flight. ".[/QUOTE]I thought Americans have needed a visa to visit Brazil for years. Is that not true?
[QUOTE=Nothing24;3002456]Mother's Day might be the perfect time to go. A bunch of girls without the responsibilities of having children and / or don't talk to their own mother's.[/QUOTE]Checked with 3 contacts, all mothers, they all won't be in the zona next week. Maybe your theory holds water, all the none Mothers, or the Motherless maybe there. I plan to visit one of the days next week, for a night.
[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;3002606]Your statement above makes perfect sense to everyone except to a troll.[/QUOTE]All of that guys talk about how unbelievable Brazil is very overexaggerated. My ex wife is Brazilian, I speak pretty good Portuguese and have been there many times (so I am qualified to comment) but have not been there in many years for simple reasons. It is very expensive to tap the top tier girls which really are only to be found in Sao Paulo and the very expensive Scandolo (very much like Hong Kong but more upscale) club in Sao Paolo. A night here will cost you $300 or more to pull a girl with room fees, the gal, etc. So its super expensive. Also, other cheaper options in places like termas (spas / massage houses) do not have really good quality overall. I have fucked some serious 9's in HK for 120-140 and have had many good experiences and performers there. Brazil back in the late 90s and early 2000s with Help Disco was its Golden Era and this was arguably the best mongering venue I have ever been to in my life. This was in Rio, and as soon as the government made them close this place for the Olympics, Rio became a 2nd tier destination and Brazil lost its lustre for me. Sao Paulo has always been pretty good, but very expensive compared to other places like Colombia, Costa Rica, or Tijuana.
The 14 hour flight to Brazil, visa requirement, lack of great places does not make it a top mongering destination and I should be biased if anyone is as I have had lots of experience with Brazil. But, in my opinion Medellin is by far the best place right now in the world with a huge availability of girls from nightclubs, Parque Lleras, Facebook, Seeking, Tinder, etc for a cheap price. Hong Kong is one of the best places in the world (and I have mongered in 25 countries) to still find top notch quality gals for a reasonable price without a hassle to get there if you are on the West Coast. The thing that kills it for me in Tijuana that outside of Hong Kong, there are not a lot of other really good places to go. I also get bored after 2 nights as there is not much to do in the day, and I cannot see myself being longer here than a couple of nights. I don't know, but this is just my 2 cents and I would much rather do Colombia over Brazil any day.
On another note, can someone comment if tomorrow night will be slow or can it still be worth going to? I know its Mothers Day Sunday so this worries me. But, I only have tomorrow I can go before leaving on a trip otherwise I would wait to go another weekend. But, perhaps someone has been there and maybe it is still okay??
[QUOTE=StudBucket;3002660]All of that guys talk about how unbelievable Brazil is very overexaggerated. My ex wife is Brazilian, I speak pretty good Portuguese and have been there many times (so I am qualified to comment) but have not been there in many years for simple reasons. It is very expensive to tap the top tier girls which really are only to be found in Sao Paulo and the very expensive Scandolo (very much like Hong Kong but more upscale) club in Sao Paolo. A night here will cost you $300 or more to pull a girl with room fees, the gal, etc. So its super expensive. Also, other cheaper options in places like termas (spas / massage houses) do not have really good quality overall. I have fucked some serious 9's in HK for 120-140 and have had many good experiences and performers there. Brazil back in the late 90s and early 2000s with Help Disco was its Golden Era and this was arguably the best mongering venue I have ever been to in my life. This was in Rio, and as soon as the government made them close this place for the Olympics, Rio became a 2nd tier destination and Brazil lost its lustre for me. Sao Paulo has always been pretty good, but very expensive compared to other places like Colombia, Costa Rica, or Tijuana.
The 14 hour flight to Brazil, visa requirement, lack of great places does not make it a top mongering destination and I should be biased if anyone is as I have had lots of experience with Brazil. But, in my opinion Medellin is by far the best place right now in the world with a huge availability of girls from nightclubs, Parque Lleras, Facebook, Seeking, Tinder, etc for a cheap price. Hong Kong is one of the best places in the world (and I have mongered in 25 countries) to still find top notch quality gals for a reasonable price without a hassle to get there if you are on the West Coast. The thing that kills it for me in Tijuana that outside of Hong Kong, there are not a lot of other really good places to go. I also get bored after 2 nights as there is not much to do in the day, and I cannot see myself being longer here than a couple of nights. I don't know, but this is just my 2 cents and I would much rather do Colombia over Brazil any day.[/QUOTE]The thing you forgot to mention about Colombia, though, is the potential for being drugged / robbed / killed. Dying could really put a damper on my vacation.
Other than that, what you said really seals it for me. Tijuana really is the best mongering destination in the Western Hemisphere, if not the world (especially if, like me, you like latin women).
HK really is the measuring stick for P2P, which is why all these guys come to this forum to have their pissing contests.
Some club locas have girls as partners. Just about every loca I have gotten to know at the clubs is there because their family needs it. Not every girl has a guy back home but a lot do. Sometimes another member of the family is the "pimp" type of the relationship. One of the current 18 year old hotties in HK is having issues with her novio back home. This young mexican cowboy is struggling with how well guys treat her in Tijuana. Would not be the first girl I seen become single because she works in the clubs.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;3001563]Guys, going to Tijuana every couple weeks or so, have regular deals with hot HK girls, GFE, BBFS all night for $100 or so.
Many girls, got fired or quit HK, would continue to meet guys for long sessions at discount. Sad to say but quite a few hot young girls sleep with guys to support BFs and kids. Safe to assume they all have BFs who knows and let them sell sex to support their lifestyles.
Lots of guys work in San Diego, have second or third wife in Tijuana. My gardener has wives and kids both sides of the border. Lots of sad stories and desperation.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=StudBucket;3002667]On another note, can someone comment if tomorrow night will be slow or can it still be worth going to? I know its Mothers Day Sunday so this worries me. But, I only have tomorrow I can go before leaving on a trip otherwise I would wait to go another weekend. But, perhaps someone has been there and maybe it is still okay??[/QUOTE]Well Mothers Day in Mexico is today (Saturday) since it's the 10th of May. So since Saturday is such a big money day some girls might take Sunday off to celebrate it but I doubt you would notice it in the club. Remember for the most part the girls are not from Tijuana so they don't have family close by. I'm sure most girls just send some money home and maybe a few flew back earlier in the week to celebrate it but my guess is it's a very small amount. Most of the time when I'the be with girls on this day it would just be a simple phone call home.
[QUOTE=StudBucket;3002660]All of that guys talk about how unbelievable Brazil is very overexaggerated. My ex wife is Brazilian, I speak pretty good Portuguese and have been there many times (so I am qualified to comment) but have not been there in many years for simple reasons. It is very expensive to tap the top tier girls which really are only to be found in Sao Paulo and the very expensive Scandolo (very much like Hong Kong but more upscale) club in Sao Paolo. A night here will cost you $300 or more to pull a girl with room fees, the gal, etc. So its super expensive. Also, other cheaper options in places like termas (spas / massage houses) do not have really good quality overall. I have fucked some serious 9's in HK for 120-140 and have had many good experiences and performers there. Brazil back in the late 90s and early 2000s with Help Disco was its Golden Era and this was arguably the best mongering venue I have ever been to in my life. This was in Rio, and as soon as the government made them close this place for the Olympics, Rio became a 2nd tier destination and Brazil lost its lustre for me. Sao Paulo has always been pretty good, but very expensive compared to other places like Colombia, Costa Rica, or Tijuana.
The 14 hour flight to Brazil, visa requirement, lack of great places does not make it a top mongering destination and I should be biased if anyone is as I have had lots of experience with Brazil. But, in my opinion Medellin is by far the best place right now in the world with a huge availability of girls from nightclubs, Parque Lleras, Facebook, Seeking, Tinder, etc for a cheap price. Hong Kong is one of the best places in the world (and I have mongered in 25 countries) to still find top notch quality gals for a reasonable price without a hassle to get there if you are on the West Coast. The thing that kills it for me in Tijuana that outside of Hong Kong, there are not a lot of other really good places to go. I also get bored after 2 nights as there is not much to do in the day, and I cannot see myself being longer here than a couple of nights. I don't know, but this is just my 2 cents and I would much rather do Colombia over Brazil any day.[/QUOTE]I don't mind a longish flight since it will be redeye.
Granted my flight time is shorter than 14 hrs but its still longer than 4 which is that sweet spot.
I'll also say Colombia has a bad reputation with girls drugging and stealing.
They are kinda desperate so that's why they charge low but also try to haggle so much with extra services and whatever which I don't like and leads some to go another step to make that extra cash by stealing.
I like a set price for everything.
In SP I never had this issue.
Usually the girls have to check in the hotel or a guard will be at the airbnb to ID guests.
I've left my stuff out and had girls sleep over and never had my stuff taken.
They understand a repeat client is better than being banned from the clubs and arrested for theft.
Plus there are a bunch more stuff to do in SP or Rio than Tijuana which like you said is a problem. Tijuana as a city is just boring and fucking girls in your hotel room or the clubs is only fun for an hour or 2 than you have the rest of the day and night with nothing else to do. SP has a bunch of bars, restaurants and attractions to lounge around or take one of your regular girls to go and do something fun during the day. I was in Tijuana for 4 days and I really tried to do something fun outside but other than gambling there's nothing out there. That's what kills it for me.
Girls in SP and Rio arent that much more money than girls in Tijuana.
Going rate is like 600 brl to 1000 brl which is like 105 $ to 175 $.
A Tijuana girl is like 120 $ to 150 $ but you have to add the room fee of $40 and their drinks and its actually more.
Yes if you do go to scandallo which is the most high end place in SP it will be like $300 all said and done and most guys only do that once or twice on a trip.
Plus you get food, drinks, room and a girl included with that. You can always get a girls number and meet them outside to lower cost.
If you go to regular clubs in SP you can easily find a girl for 500 brl and if you go to the clinicas its like 300 brl for an hour.
So you can scale from the low end to high end in SP depending on your budget.
Everyones preference is different I understand so your 9's could be my 6's.
I just didn't really get the hype so much of seeing a bunch of generic looking mexican girls you can see in California or even where I live.
In Tijuana and Colombia you won't find much variety.
Just the standard black straight hair, tanned skin, brown eyes.
For someone like myself I like a variety pack of natural redheads, blondes, japanese, black and mixed girls and you can't find that very often in Tijuana and Colombia.
Doesn't make it bad but for someone who likes a different look everytime it lacks alot.
[QUOTE=StudBucket;3002660]All of that guys talk about how unbelievable Brazil is very overexaggerated. My ex wife is Brazilian, I speak pretty good Portuguese and have been there many times (so I am qualified to comment) but have not been there in many years for simple reasons. It is very expensive to tap the top tier girls which really are only to be found in Sao Paulo and the very expensive Scandolo (very much like Hong Kong but more upscale) club in Sao Paolo. A night here will cost you $300 or more to pull a girl with room fees, the gal, etc. So its super expensive. Also, other cheaper options in places like termas (spas / massage houses) do not have really good quality overall. I have fucked some serious 9's in HK for 120-140 and have had many good experiences and performers there. Brazil back in the late 90s and early 2000s with Help Disco was its Golden Era and this was arguably the best mongering venue I have ever been to in my life. This was in Rio, and as soon as the government made them close this place for the Olympics, Rio became a 2nd tier destination and Brazil lost its lustre for me. Sao Paulo has always been pretty good, but very expensive compared to other places like Colombia, Costa Rica, or Tijuana.
The 14 hour flight to Brazil, visa requirement, lack of great places does not make it a top mongering destination and I should be biased if anyone is as I have had lots of experience with Brazil. But, in my opinion Medellin is by far the best place right now in the world with a huge availability of girls from nightclubs, Parque Lleras, Facebook, Seeking, Tinder, etc for a cheap price. Hong Kong is one of the best places in the world (and I have mongered in 25 countries) to still find top notch quality gals for a reasonable price without a hassle to get there if you are on the West Coast. The thing that kills it for me in Tijuana that outside of Hong Kong, there are not a lot of other really good places to go. I also get bored after 2 nights as there is not much to do in the day, and I cannot see myself being longer here than a couple of nights. I don't know, but this is just my 2 cents and I would much rather do Colombia over Brazil any day.[/QUOTE]The tone of your write up itself reflects truth. HK is one club, that is the issue with Tijuana. A decade a ago, Adelitas was right up there close with HK, now it is all one club. I believe the German FKK's rival HK, other than that, as you stated, there really is nothing close to it.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;3002783]The tone of your write up itself reflects truth. HK is one club, that is the issue with Tijuana. A decade a ago, Adelitas was right up there close with HK, now it is all one club. I believe the German FKK's rival HK, other than that, as you stated, there really is nothing close to it.[/QUOTE]I definitely agree with you, those German FKKs are also world class, Sharks, Oase and others are up there. Arbuably, the talent in Scandollo Sao Paulo still is better than any FKK but that 300 dollar or more price tag makes it tough to sustain on a long trip. Having said that I do not understand the need and why there is so much discussion on comparing Tijuana to other mongering destinations which for me, is like comparing apples and oranges.
Tijuana is merely a destination for West Coast our Southern California guys to go for couple / few nights max and serves it purpose at that. For these type of quick getaways for us locals (I live in LA so still relatively close) Hong Kong is still the best short term destination where we can go by train, car or bus and get in and out.
Brazil, Colombia, Thailand, Philippines, Germany are places that are long term vacation destinations that can be discussed somewhat on a more of an apples to apples comparison.
I still think Hong Kong offers great values for thus of us nearby instead of paying 400 dollars or more average to monger here back at home. And there are enough gems to be found on any given night.
It was better when we had Adelitas as a second option though. Man I miss that place.
SB.
[QUOTE=Sol12;3002754]Well Mothers Day in Mexico is today (Saturday) since it's the 10th of May. So since Saturday is such a big money day some girls might take Sunday off to celebrate it but I doubt you would notice it in the club. Remember for the most part the girls are not from Tijuana so they don't have family close by. I'm sure most girls just send some money home and maybe a few flew back earlier in the week to celebrate it but my guess is it's a very small amount. Most of the time when I'the be with girls on this day it would just be a simple phone call home.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I will be TOFTT and going tonight. Hope its okay.
The one thing that Tijuana does have is a lot of excellent high end restaurants and a lot of mid tier as well where you can eat for around 60% of the cost of comparable places in So Cal. There are only 2 good high end ones on Revo, Caesars and La Justina, so you have to get out of the Zona to find them. Those Mexicans can cook. The tacos, in the right places, are the best in the world.
[QUOTE=StudBucket;3002849]I definitely agree with you, those German FKKs are also world class, Sharks, Oase and others are up there. Arbuably, the talent in Scandollo Sao Paulo still is better than any FKK but that 300 dollar or more price tag makes it tough to sustain on a long trip. Having said that I do not understand the need and why there is so much discussion on comparing Tijuana to other mongering destinations which for me, is like comparing apples and oranges.
Tijuana is merely a destination for West Coast our Southern California guys to go for couple / few nights max and serves it purpose at that. For these type of quick getaways for us locals (I live in LA so still relatively close) Hong Kong is still the best short term destination where we can go by train, car or bus and get in and out.
Brazil, Colombia, Thailand, Philippines, Germany are places that are long term vacation destinations that can be discussed somewhat on a more of an apples to apples comparison.
I still think Hong Kong offers great values for thus of us nearby instead of paying 400 dollars or more average to monger here back at home. And there are enough gems to be found on any given night.
It was better when we had Adelitas as a second option though. Man I miss that place.
SB.[/QUOTE]There really was no argument or mention of Brazil until one arrived with his tail up to nag. In any case, agreed, should compare similar destinations.
There could be clubs that match HK but are too expensive. I know such club in Mexico call Aquah in Puerto Vallarta. When I was there once, I entered and saw the women matched the best in HK, some were even more breathtaking. The club caters to wealthy, high class men from Mexico city, judging form what I saw. The Best looking girls wanted $250 to $300, negotiated via the house, not directly. Hard to put these as being ideal destinations for the common, run-off-the-mill, monger. Ha!
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;3002855]The one thing that Tijuana does have is a lot of excellent high end restaurants and a lot of mid tier as well where you can eat for around 60% of the cost of comparable places in So Cal. There are only 2 good high end ones on Revo, Caesars and La Justina, so you have to get out of the Zona to find them. Those Mexicans can cook. The tacos, in the right places, are the best in the world.[/QUOTE]Pretty much in any city in Mexico with at least a half million (and often less) population you'll find no shortage of great places to eat to fit all budgets. Tijuana is quite expensive in terms of Mexican cities so you can imagine how much cheaper it is to eat in other cities, especially in the interior. In the States, a $100 restaurant bill is more like $130 after tax and tip. I love the steakhouses in Hermosillo, as Sonora is famous throughout Mexico for steaks. Drinks and food with a date after tip is around $130-150. That same experience would bust me $300-350 easy in the States. And don't even get me started on tacos. I love fuckin tacos figuratively and literally.
[QUOTE=Zenduka1;3002783]The tone of your write up itself reflects truth. HK is one club, that is the issue with Tijuana. A decade a ago, Adelitas was right up there close with HK, now it is all one club. I believe the German FKK's rival HK, other than that, as you stated, there really is nothing close to it.[/QUOTE]You do know there are a Bunch of clubs deeper in Tijuana like Marbella and 7 copas right? You guys are a bunch of casuals.
[QUOTE=EnterTheV;3002995]You do know there are a Bunch of clubs deeper in Tijuana like Marbella and 7 copas right? You guys are a bunch of casuals.[/QUOTE]Never heard of Marbella but I do like Marabu Bar on Blvd. Cucapah.
[QUOTE=EnterTheV;3002995]You do know there are a Bunch of clubs deeper in Tijuana like Marbella and 7 copas right? You guys are a bunch of casuals.[/QUOTE]I have been to siete de copas, not sure if you mean that. It is good, I would say with very much local feel. There has been a recent murder near the club which is bad. Also, I actually liked the place but honestly the women and venue is no HK. It is worth to know, absolutely. A guy I know has had a good time there and befriended one of the girls there and they have been going steady for 5 years.
[QUOTE=StudBucket;3002849]I definitely agree with you, those German FKKs are also world class, Sharks, Oase and others are up there. Arbuably, the talent in Scandollo Sao Paulo still is better than any FKK but that 300 dollar or more price tag makes it tough to sustain on a long trip. Having said that I do not understand the need and why there is so much discussion on comparing Tijuana to other mongering destinations which for me, is like comparing apples and oranges.
Tijuana is merely a destination for West Coast our Southern California guys to go for couple / few nights max and serves it purpose at that. For these type of quick getaways for us locals (I live in LA so still relatively close) Hong Kong is still the best short term destination where we can go by train, car or bus and get in and out.
Brazil, Colombia, Thailand, Philippines, Germany are places that are long term vacation destinations that can be discussed somewhat on a more of an apples to apples comparison.
I still think Hong Kong offers great values for thus of us nearby instead of paying 400 dollars or more average to monger here back at home. And there are enough gems to be found on any given night.
It was better when we had Adelitas as a second option though. Man I miss that place.
SB.[/QUOTE]For some guys close to the border Tijuana can be good.
For myself and others who are on more than 4 hrs away it's not that attractive and might as well bite the bullet and go an extra few hours and go to a nicer place. I enjoy Montreal myself which is the same distance for me than Tijuana.
Montreal is also a much more fun city to be with its old district and French cultural background plus tons of festivals so you can really have a nice time either way.
I like cities like that, that have flexibility with the fun. So far that's the best hurdles I've seen in this forum about Tijuana. It's only fun for a long 4 day weekend but not much else to offer but cheap sex.
If you like Mexican girls than yea Tijuana is your best bet but even Montreal has a good amount of Latina girls.
Wasn't a big fan of the soap shows they had at the clubs in Tijuana.
But if that's your thing and you like it more raunchy than it's the place to be.
[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;3003029]Never heard of Marbella but I do like Marabu Bar on Blvd. Cucapah.[/QUOTE]Yeah it's in La Mesa according to a website that has a pretty good list of clubs if some of you are adventurous enough to go and check out. Not sure if all on the list are still open because Bolero is on it and I don't think that place is around anymore but I haven't checked in many years.
The best club that had potential outside of the Zona bars was Titanic. It was doing good business but not sure why it ended up closing. I had seen another club that is further east called La Tentaciķand I think that I had never heard of before but has chicas.
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[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;3001960]I don't eat working girl pussy and not really into kissing either. I'm more about face down, ass up because that's the way I like to fuck.[/QUOTE]Good to know man, nothing wrong with being face down and having your ass in the air as you get fucked. You do you bro.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;3003085]For some guys close to the border Tijuana can be good.
For myself and others who are on more than 4 hrs away it's not that attractive and might as well bite the bullet and go an extra few hours and go to a nicer place. I enjoy Montreal myself which is the same distance for me than Tijuana.
Montreal is also a much more fun city to be with its old district and French cultural background plus tons of festivals so you can really have a nice time either way.
I like cities like that, that have flexibility with the fun. So far that's the best hurdles I've seen in this forum about Tijuana. It's only fun for a long 4 day weekend but not much else to offer but cheap sex.
If you like Mexican girls than yea Tijuana is your best bet but even Montreal has a good amount of Latina girls.
Wasn't a big fan of the soap shows they had at the clubs in Tijuana.
But if that's your thing and you like it more raunchy than it's the place to be.[/QUOTE]For East Coast residents Sosua Dominican Republic is very popular. I have never been there but I have seen videos on YouTube. If you have been to Sosua what is your opinion. What are the prices for services there. It is one hour flight from Miami. A great brothel (open air) was "Campo" (Colombian and Dominican girls) on the island of Curacao (Dutch administration). About two hours flight from Miami right next to Venezuela. Unfortunately closed since Covid. Maybe they will open again.
[QUOTE=Sol12;3003116]Yeah it's in La Mesa according to a website that has a pretty good list of clubs if some of you are adventurous enough to go and check out. Not sure if all on the list are still open because Bolero is on it and I don't think that place is around anymore but I haven't checked in many years.
The best club that had potential outside of the Zona bars was Titanic. It was doing good business but not sure why it ended up closing. I had seen another club that is further east called La Tentaciand I think that I had never heard of before but has chicas.
[URL]https://m.adultsearch.com/mx/tijuana/strip-club-brothel[/URL][/QUOTE]That list is a joke. A bunch of them no longer exist. La Golondrina? Seriously? And, man, some of those joints are / were in some really sketch areas.
[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;3003029]Never heard of Marbella but I do like Marabu Bar on Blvd. Cucapah.[/QUOTE]Yeah Marabu is on my radar How was your experience? I'm going to El Sinaloense next to La cueva.
Not to add any more fuel to the fire on the controversial Tijuana vs Brazil debate but I do find it very interesting. All I have to say is to each their own. I went to both CDMX and Guadalajara several years ago and was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the sex I had gotten from the twitter providers (the casa providers in Guadalajara not so much). They were almost on par with the Brazilians. I won't get into the debate about who's hotter because as we all know that's very subjective. Personally if had Brazil not existed, I'm pretty sure Mexico would of been my preferred destination in Latin America.
For people who live close to Tijuana, who has a fulltime job and / or family, it absolutely make sense that Tijuana is a better choice than Brazil. They can go on their off days without the need to request for vacation time. Be at HK club within a couple of hours of leaving their house.
Ended up heading down last night for a couple hours. I was there from around 10:30 to 12:30 am. Someone on here had asked how the action would be on Mother's day, it wasn't too bad, although I know technically it was on Saturday for Mexico. I would say there was around 80% of the girls who are usually around there with the remaining 20% MIA, which was expected. None of my chick friends were around but I did bump into a girl I was hoping to see. I forgot to grab her number when we met last time so I finally got it. She's 20 years old, could pass for 18 or 19, all natural and into girls as well. I spent most of my time with her just drinking and getting to know her a little more. She wants to hang out on one of her days off and go bar hopping so we'll definitely be doing that at some point. Since I didn't have my own room for the night I told her we could hook up the next time I'm down there. Could be as soon as today depending on how the rest of my day goes.