FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2238040]Doesn't seem weird to me at all. It seems like a well established pattern. Optimist, TT123, OmarRap, and Takedown, all thought she was amazing at one point. In the past, they ALL spoke highly of her. And now they don't! Sounds like the relationship with Betty has three phases: (1) honeymoon phase, (2) playing games phase, and (3) batshit crazy phase.

During honeymoon phase, she is sweet and GFE. This first phase lasts probably as long as she's seeing the payments and room times steadily increasing. If she sees the spending tapering off then she moves the relationship into the second phase. This second phase I suspect is characterized by silent treatment, acting heartbroken, pretending to be busy, and taking away benefits that she used to award freely like pre-zimmer time. This second phase is a deliberate attempt by her to trigger an emotional response from the monger. The monger is supposed to feel like he is losing her to other whales, and he needs to apologize and win her back with increased spending. If the monger increases his spending, then she brings the relationship back to the first phase. If the monger goes several visits without spending anything on her, then she goes into the third phase, which is characterized by insults, emotional outbursts, and vindictive behavior.

Sound about, right? Or does she go directly from honeymoon phase to batshit crazy phase with no intermediate step? Does she show traces of batshit craziness even at the beginning even while the spending is increasing?

In any case, enjoy the honeymoon phase Tuber19![/QUOTE]Seem very Logical explanation, for me I will try to keep her at honeymoon phase, I have advantage of being the tourist and she will see me for 3-5 days in a row / vacation depends on my holiday, so. I assume- she have no time to change phases.

Oh yes, the legendary 3 phases?

McA: Do you think FKK's have these black books where this stuff is written down? Seen a few girls through the years with this tactic.

[QUOTE=Tuber19;2238360]Seem very Logical explanation, for me I will try to keep her at honeymoon phase, I have advantage of being the tourist and she will see me for 3-5 days in a row / vacation depends on my holiday, so. I assume- she have no time to change phases.[/QUOTE]Not a good idea to concentrate on one girl, go to the club and be ready to leave without any room it is the only thing to do to keep the full control of the things.

[QUOTE=PokerWiesBaden;2238264]Abi.

Adriana.

Alessia.

Angelina.

Blondie.

Betty.

Cleo.

Crystal.

Cosmina (old).

Cosmina (new).

Daisy.

Emma.

Esra...[/QUOTE]Thanks for information, when I never noticed this superstar Betti, but I enjoy to watch fishes, it s relaxing. Sad some woman types like Manou, blond Emina who used to sit not far from fishes, blond Debi who stayed with Bianka seemed to leave. I go for women, I let little girls to others. Bad Leoni. De say: not kissing, because really attractive behavior, pretty, smiling face, we could have played a good game, I m sure, but not kissing girls are not interesting, can t make love in bed. Sometimes, some Romanians baby kissing become passionate after orgasmus, but Germans are not on Romanian level for love in bed.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2238232] If it is a Tuesday evening or another slow business day, where she is not making any money, I could imagine Betty's frustration mounting, and her taking it out on any ex-customers in her range! [/QUOTE]Betty would never get frustrated on a Tuesday.

Because she never works on a Tuesday.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2238465]Thanks for information, when I never noticed this superstar Betti, but I enjoy to watch fishes, it s relaxing. Sad some woman types like Manou, blond Emina who used to sit not far from fishes, blond Debi who stayed with Bianka seemed to leave. I go for women, I let little girls to others. Bad Leoni. De say: not kissing, because really attractive behavior, pretty, smiling face, we could have played a good game, I m sure, but not kissing girls are not interesting, can t make love in bed. Sometimes, some Romanians baby kissing become passionate after orgasmus, but Germans are not on Romanian level for love in bed.[/QUOTE]German are on Romanian level but not the prostitutes, try to date normal German woman probably you will change your mind, prostitutes are playing a rule it is not the real life and the best sex is never the paid one at least for me.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2237919]She is certainly attractive, and her service has been great in all the sessions I had with her.[/QUOTE]Indeed, Betty's service is quite good and she is pretty if you like them petite, slim and demure looking. She is responsive during sex and particular during DATY and is delightful to chat to when she is engaged.

Other times she appears to be totally uninterested and unwilling to make any effort to keep your custom. She will make promises in the current room for subsequent engagements that she did not keep which led me to realise the continuation of a customer hooker relationship was not going to be mutually beneficial.

If she physically turns you on being very young looking like she is a school girl or she is still giving you the honey moon stage of wild abandoned sex then keep courting Betty.

She changed her demeanor when she ditched the secretary glasses so now she cannot see far distances anymore.

[QUOTE=PokerWiesBaden;2238264]Abi.

Adriana.

Alessia.

Angelina.

Blondie.

Betty.

Cleo..[/QUOTE]Presumably you're a regular attendee being able to put a name to a face, however I applaud your knowledge & attention to detail regards to the ladies working.

Unfortunately I only visit Clubs when I can (about 9th visit this year) and even though I've been to Sharks a few times recently I still have problems recognizing ladies. Even those that I've previously sessioned with!

When I'm next at Sharks this Friday I would love to check out the famous Mandy, Betty, Dina, Kimberley, Mia, Carla, Leoni etc but trying to recognise them is difficult.

I've given up asking girls about other girls names as I guess it's not in their interest to give them work / money & unlike the receptionists at Artemis and Oase I've never found the Sharks reception very helpful. The bar staff always seem to be so busy.

That I never ask them either.

This is probably a crazy idea but I for one would welcome stickers of the ladies names on each of the ladies bodies or something similar.

I like to revisit ladies I've previously enjoyed like the blonde Anastasia but it would be nice to try one or two of the popular ladies if only I could recognise them??

I will see what happens when I'm there again on Friday!

[QUOTE=Canary;2238696]Presumably you're a regular attendee being able to put a name to a face, however I applaud your knowledge & attention to detail regards to the ladies working.

Unfortunately I only visit Clubs when I can (about 9th visit this year) and even though I've been to Sharks a few times recently I still have problems recognizing ladies. Even those that I've previously sessioned with!

When I'm next at Sharks this Friday I would love to check out the famous Mandy, Betty, Dina, Kimberley, Mia, Carla, Leoni etc but trying to recognise them is difficult.

I've given up asking girls about other girls names as I guess it's not in their interest to give them work / money & unlike the receptionists at Artemis and Oase I've never found the Sharks reception very helpful. The bar staff always seem to be so busy.

That I never ask them either.[/QUOTE]Should be more enjoyable to choose with your eyes and mind rather than being just a follower. Mandy is really friendly, but I went with her on a day because I didn't want to go with Megan, when I saw Mandy since nearly 1 year and never ran to repeat. Smiling, nice behavior, real will to please us, but no dream for me, so no repeat. No kiss for Leoni, so not for me. No enjoyable sex without kissing, nor a little spark.

[QUOTE=Canary;2238696]I've given up asking girls about other girls names as I guess it's not in their interest to give them work / money & unlike the receptionists at Artemis and Oase I've never found the Sharks reception very helpful. The bar staff always seem to be so busy.

That I never ask them either.[/QUOTE]Why don't you ask other men who are around? Usually there are many men in the club!

[QUOTE=Canary;2238696]Presumably you're a regular attendee being able to put a name to a face, however I applaud your knowledge & attention to detail regards to the ladies working. [/QUOTE]Yes, I'm a regular visitor.

Its not recommended to ask girls,(you don't know) about other "popular" girls.

Then its better to ask some other visitors.

I will be probably in shark tomorrow (Monday) again.

And if anyone wants know something, can ask or PM me.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2238853]Should be more enjoyable to choose with your eyes and mind rather than being just a follower. Mandy is really friendly, but I went with her on a day because I didn't want to go with Megan, when I saw Mandy since nearly 1 year and never ran to repeat. Smiling, nice behavior, real will to please us, but no dream for me, so no repeat. No kiss for Leoni, so not for me. No enjoyable sex without kissing, nor a little spark.[/QUOTE]Same for me 1 room and never repeat, she is a German woman may be from Stuttgart therefor when I spoke with her in German I could clearly understood that she is a bit stupid or she will not be there. Her ass is getting fat, she believes she is a queen but she is just just a prostitute, who is not able to tell her neighbors, family, or friends what she is doing, I can understand that some poor Romanian girls have no choice than to be a prostitute, we can also discuss about it so many jobs available in Germany, but sorry a German woman have a lot of alternatives.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2238853]Should be more enjoyable to choose with your eyes and mind rather than being just a follower. Mandy is really friendly, but I went with her on a day because I didn't want to go with Megan, when I saw Mandy since nearly 1 year and never ran to repeat. Smiling, nice behavior, real will to please us, but no dream for me, so no repeat. No kiss for Leoni, so not for me. No enjoyable sex without kissing, nor a little spark.[/QUOTE]Give Leoni another try. She was one of my best GFE. Lots of kissing and tenderness in the room, I even gave her a massage which she really appreciated. I respect her decision not to get a boob job. Hope to meet her again whenever I return.

"Sharks reception" is an oxymoron. I know there are a lot of girls in there but they seem to have no handle on which girls are in the club at any particular moment. And furthermore, they are not interested in helping anyone. I think of the girls as "staff" but they are probably more like independent contractors. Since many of the girls stay at the club I would think that the front desk can be more helpful. They are not. However, the other I have had different experiences asking for girls at other clubs such as GTs for example. They seem to know the girls that work there.

Anastasia. Of course there is no problem. Walk by the back stairs a few times. She will find you. Look for the girl with the ear to ear smile and dimples Make eye contact and she will start to giggle.

Barbie had [U]Barbie[/U] tattooed over her left breast. This was helpful.

But I know what you mean, several girls look alike and it is hard to differentiate them after awhile. I keep track of them by where they sit. I did two rooms with Daria on my first visit. The next day I met another girl named Electra who was her double and I addressed her as Daria and she was pissed. This year I went hunting for Daria and she was gone the first week and her friends told me she would return next weekend. They were correct. She was sitting in the same chair on the far side of the bar. She remembered me and said "I heard you were looking for me last week. " We spoke for 5 minutes and I wasn't ready to room. I walked around the club and a 1/2 hour at the front of the bar a girl that looked just like Daria grabbed me and we were in an embrace with both of my hands around her ass. I said "Daria, I am still a little disappointed with you after our last session. " The girl looked up at me and said "What are you talking about? I'm Mya. ".

[QUOTE=Canary;2238696]P
I've given up asking girls about other girls names as I guess it's not in their interest to give them work / money & unlike the receptionists at Artemis and Oase I've never found the Sharks reception very helpful. The bar staff always seem to be so busy.

That I never ask them either.

This is probably a crazy idea but I for one would welcome stickers of the ladies names on each of the ladies bodies or something similar.

I like to revisit ladies I've previously enjoyed like the blonde Anastasia but it would be nice to try one or two of the popular ladies if only I could recognise them??

![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2239196]I did two rooms with Daria on my first visit. The next day I met another girl named Electra who was her double and I addressed her as Daria and she was pissed. This year I went hunting for Daria and she was gone the first week and her friends told me she would return next weekend. They were correct. She was sitting in the same chair on the far side of the bar. She remembered me and said "I heard you were looking for me last week. " We spoke for 5 minutes and I wasn't ready to room. I walked around the club and a 1/2 hour at the front of the bar a girl that looked just like Daria grabbed me and we were in an embrace with both of my hands around her ass. I said "Daria, I am still a little disappointed with you after our last session. " The girl looked up at me and said "What are you talking about? I'm Mya. ".[/QUOTE]Daria vs. Electra. Daria vs Mia. I had to laugh out loud when reading this. Unbelievable! To me it seems that obviously in the dark of Sharks you can't differentiate between long and short hair, or big and small boobs. Maybe you should consider to visit an optician! (big smile!)

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2239196]"Sharks reception" is an oxymoron. I know there are a lot of girls in there but they seem to have no handle on which girls are in the club at any particular moment. And furthermore, they are not interested in helping anyone. I think of the girls as "staff" but they are probably more like independent contractors. Since many of the girls stay at the club I would think that the front desk can be more helpful. They are not. However, the other I have had different experiences asking for girls at other clubs such as GTs for example. They seem to know the girls that work there.

Anastasia. Of course there is no problem. Walk by the back stairs a few times. She will find you. Look for the girl with the ear to ear smile and dimples Make eye contact and she will start to giggle.

Barbie had [U]Barbie[/U] tattooed over her left breast. This was helpful.

But I know what you mean, several girls look alike and it is hard to differentiate them after awhile. I keep track of them by where they sit. I did two rooms with Daria on my first visit. The next day I met another girl named Electra who was her double and I addressed her as Daria and she was pissed. .[/QUOTE]So, Barbie is back or not?

Has anybody seen her recently, is she active / steady in the LU these days?

Front side of bar when you walk in or tad to the left (where that older and heavy Russian lady sits, think she is Russian) next to the tables adjacent to cafe wall. Long black hair (extensions), lots of eye shadow, very firm body but small busted. Very pretty girl. Talks to the German girls often. Used to hang out with her Hungarian sidekick now gone who has informed me she thinks Domenica is not there now but I figure the guys know for sure; it is in her best interest I not bring my Euros to Darmstadt rather to her and her red toweled friends so I would expect an ' absent' anyway from a girl competing for Euros.

Thanks to anyone who may know if care to share in a PM that is fine too. Happy mongering to those there now.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2239240]Daria vs. Electra. Daria vs Mia. I had to laugh out loud when reading this. Unbelievable! To me it seems that obviously in the dark of Sharks you can't differentiate between long and short hair, or big and small boobs. Maybe you should consider to visit an optician! (big smile!)[/QUOTE]Gosh. Maybe. I think I was wearing my current prescription when this all happened. Funny thing, you know when I saw Daria in the September trip I thought "You look different. " I remembered her differently from my March trip.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2239243]So, Barbie is back or not?[/QUOTE]I didn't see Barbie during my September trip. It was the trip prior to that in March that I was commenting on.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2239196]"Sharks reception" is an oxymoron. I know there are a lot of girls in there but they seem to have no handle on which girls are in the club at any particular moment. And furthermore, they are not interested in helping anyone. I think of the girls as "staff" but they are probably more like independent contractors. Since many of the girls stay at the club I would think that the front desk can be more helpful. They are not. However, the other I have had different experiences asking for girls at other clubs such as GTs for example. They seem to know the girls that work there.

Anastasia. Of course there is no problem. Walk by the back stairs a few times. She will find you. Look for the girl with the ear to ear smile and dimples Make eye contact and she will start to giggle.

Barbie had [U]Barbie[/U] tattooed over her left breast. This was helpful.

But I know what you mean, several girls look alike and it is hard to differentiate them after awhile. I keep track of them by where they sit..[/QUOTE]Went 1 time with Electra may be 2 years ago, never repeated this girls is just so stupid, saying she is from Greece, may be.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2239261]Has anybody seen her recently, is she active / steady in the LU these days? [/QUOTE]The hungarian Domenica / Dominica came back to the club end of September and is presently sitting at the bar waiting for you!

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2239317]The hungarian Domenica / Dominica came back to the club end of September and is presently sitting at the bar waiting for you![/QUOTE]Thank you for the information and confirmation of the Lady Domenica's location and that she is present again for my return to Sharks. I think you may be slightly off on her sentiments though as I would like to think she is waiting for me and even though she will smile and wrap her arms around me and greet me with a big kiss I know it is not I she wants rather the Euros that will be sitting in my box; I am just the courier :D

Thanks again, enjoy the day (or night).

KK.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2239143]Give Leoni another try. She was one of my best GFE. Lots of kissing and tenderness in the room, I even gave her a massage which she really appreciated. I respect her decision not to get a boob job. Hope to meet her again whenever I return.[/QUOTE]You mean blond German with pretty face, small tits, about 30 yo, very smiling and real lovely behavior in lounge? We had a really sweet chat, but when she answered no french kiss, I don't know for German kiss? I didn't insist, I tried new Senja. Ro, lovely, enthusiastic, but not woman enough yet, but only 18 yo, so it was my fault for my choice. She is not ready yet for Globe.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2239196]"Sharks reception" is an oxymoron. I know there are a lot of girls in there but they seem to have no handle on which girls are in the club at any particular moment. And furthermore, they are not interested in helping anyone. I think of the girls as "staff" but they are probably more like independent contractors. Since many of the girls stay at the club I would think that the front desk can be more helpful. They are not. However, the other I have had different experiences asking for girls at other clubs such as GTs for example. They seem to know the girls that work there.

Anastasia. Of course there is no problem. Walk by the back stairs a few times. She will find you. Look for the girl with the ear to ear smile and dimples Make eye contact and she will start to giggle.

Barbie had [U]Barbie[/U] tattooed over her left breast. This was helpful..[/QUOTE]I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who sometimes gets confused with the ladies!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2238853]Should be more enjoyable to choose with your eyes and mind rather than being just a follower. Mandy is really friendly, but I went with her on a day because I didn't want to go with Megan, when I saw Mandy since nearly 1 year and never ran to repeat. Smiling, nice behavior, real will to please us, but no dream for me, so no repeat. No kiss for Leoni, so not for me. No enjoyable sex without kissing, nor a little spark.[/QUOTE]I think this is a perfect example of how difficult it can be to recommend or not specific ladies.

I've never met Leoni but I've been told more than once that she is vg & a great sweet kisser.

Obviously being complex humans we all engage and react different to each other resulting in different experiences.

I think when I'm next at Sharks on Friday I will head straight to the "left side" of the bar (which very strangely I rarely venture to) where I think a number of these ladies hang out & try out a few different girls?

I'm visiting Sharks again this Friday (26/10) unfortunately for one night and I thought this would be my last visit of a busy FKK Club year.

Anyway I've just found out tonight I will be in Brussels for a few days at the very end of November enabling me to visit one more time.

However a question for the experienced attendees.

Will the Christmas / New Year exodus already have begun thus depleting the quality of the Line Up, if this is the case I would rather save my Euro's & wait until later in the New Year?

I need to decide soon before the cost of the flights increase as currently they are only £80.

Many thanks.

[QUOTE=Canary;2239385]I'm visiting Sharks again this Friday (26/10) unfortunately for one night and I thought this would be my last visit of a busy FKK Club year.

Anyway I've just found out tonight I will be in Brussels for a few days at the very end of November enabling me to visit one more time.

However a question for the experienced attendees.

Will the Christmas / New Year exodus already have begun thus depleting the quality of the Line Up, if this is the case I would rather save my Euro's & wait until later in the New Year?

I need to decide soon before the cost of the flights increase as currently they are only 80.

Many thanks.[/QUOTE]The LU will be the current one the girls will start to leave around the mid of December until 15 to 30 January, now for some girls when the business is bad they will stay longer in holiday, never forget they have to pay 110 euro per day to enter the club and sleep there.

End of November is still pretty good for line ups. It's a slow decline starting at the beginning of December and hits rock bottom on Christmas to New Year. It picks up in January and February but I'the say the end of November is still better up until around March.

[QUOTE=Canary;2239385]I'm visiting Sharks again this Friday (26/10) unfortunately for one night and I thought this would be my last visit of a busy FKK Club year.

Anyway I've just found out tonight I will be in Brussels for a few days at the very end of November enabling me to visit one more time.

However a question for the experienced attendees.

Will the Christmas / New Year exodus already have begun thus depleting the quality of the Line Up, if this is the case I would rather save my Euro's & wait until later in the New Year?

I need to decide soon before the cost of the flights increase as currently they are only 80.

Many thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Canary;2239385]I'm visiting Sharks again this Friday (26/10) unfortunately for one night and I thought this would be my last visit of a busy FKK Club year.

Anyway I've just found out tonight I will be in Brussels for a few days at the very end of November enabling me to visit one more time.

However a question for the experienced attendees.

Will the Christmas / New Year exodus already have begun thus depleting the quality of the Line Up, if this is the case I would rather save my Euro's & wait until later in the New Year?

I need to decide soon before the cost of the flights increase as currently they are only 80.

Many thanks.[/QUOTE]The lineup the last 2 weeks was quite good.

Many known girls and also a lot newcomers.

Normally the lineup stays at high level until middle of December.

Then a lot girls go home for Christmas.

The club probably have again the 1000 euro bonus for the girls, if they work nonstop between Christmas and new year.

(Max 1 day free).

[QUOTE=Canary;2239385]Anyway I've just found out tonight I will be in Brussels for a few days at the very end of November enabling me to visit one more time.
Will the Christmas / New Year exodus already have begun thus depleting the quality of the Line Up, if this is the case I would rather save my Euro's & wait until later in the New Year?[/QUOTE]No, all the girls will be there eagerly waiting for you in need to earn money (to buy Christmas presents in December and to stay home in their countries for some weeks). With regards to full lineup, this is a splendid period of time, actually this is one of the best times in the year to visit the club!

This situation will last until 17th /18th of December.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2239576]No, all the girls will be there eagerly waiting for you in need to earn money (to buy Christmas presents in December and to stay home in their countries for some weeks). With regards to full lineup, this is a splendid period of time, actually this is one of the best times in the year to visit the club!

This situation will last until 17th /18th of December.[/QUOTE]The last few years my November, December and January trips in Germany have probably been the best of all with great LUs. Playing with the Gypsies / Sharks / RTGs last winter were some of the best times I have had. The girls are eager, friendlier, it's overall a cheerful and festive time. This is why I booked a quick middle of November ' 5 day Pre-Turkey' DE trip to spend just a few more days with the girls while the holiday spirit thrives. WOW Airlines was just under $400 RT! How can I be in Baltimore 1/2 way there and not go visit the girls even if for 5 days only? Sort of like surfing, if you aren't mongering and fully invested in the waters between 'Thanksgiving and the end of January' you are missing some of the best wave (s) of the year. I understand some folks are religious and / or tied down with family but if you are Jewish or Muslim or any religion that doesn't celebrate Christmas and not mongering somewhere in the world during this time frame please know our dear father Abraham whom we share as our eternal father would be very disappointed in us! He couldn't keep his dick in his pants and would expect the same of us except he got it for free. We have to pay in this era we live in but the deals are better in the upcoming months!

Got to sharks around 7 pm last Friday. When I was at the bar ordering a drink, just want to ask people around and see if that day is Friday. The whole club was so slow and did not seem like the club I attend three or two weeks ago. Anyway, had a great time with Francesca and Sabino. Helen seems kind of busy that day but not like some people said that she was busy all the time and even had a hard time to talk to her. In the last two pages of the forum, people have talked about how unfriendly the staff is at the reception, it is quite the contrary for me, every time I talked to them for a little bit to say Hi and catch. There used to be a nice lady called Anna, not sure if she still works there anymore. Maybe we have met the different staff.

As for Evita, people in this forum said that she had significant other and still keep her Facebook profile quiet. IMO, we do not have ownership over her, what she wants to do it is her business, I am just really appreciate and glad she provided all the fun for her customers. Just really wish her the best and to be honest, I do feel a little bit upset when I heard in this forum said that she may not return to Sharks.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2238232]TT123 wrote exactly what I was thinking, he is just faster on the keyboard. It would be an interesting social experiment if Optimist were to sit near the aquarium one day for six hours, not spending any money and just chatting. If it is a Tuesday evening or another slow business day, where she is not making any money, I could imagine Betty's frustration mounting, and her taking it out on any ex-customers in her range!

TT123 how loud was she when those insults were hurled? Was it a busy day when she verbally attacked you? Were there other potential customers in vicinity? I imagine it is bad publicity for her, if other potential customers are around. Unless she was so angry, that she just didn't care.

Also, Optimist. At what point in the playing games stage, did you walk away? TT123 and Takedown both imply that this phase can persist over a long duration, with verbiage like "kept on insisting". So sounds like she is willing to to give mongers a second chance or even sixth or seventh chance before she starts burning bridges.[/QUOTE]TT123 and McAdonis. I walked away on the first occasion on which she played games. I got the cold shoulder for three hours and then she played friendly. I went to room for a final time then.

Correct. I walked away from Sharks so maybe had no chance to enjoy being shouted at. Maybe I will benefit from it when I return. She is still tempting as she is such fun in the room.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2239620]The last few years my November, December and January trips in Germany have probably been the best of all with great LUs. Playing with the Gypsies / Sharks / RTGs last winter were some of the best times I have had. The girls are eager, friendlier, it's overall a cheerful and festive time. This is why I booked a quick middle of November ' 5 day Pre-Turkey' DE trip to spend just a few more days with the girls while the holiday spirit thrives. WOW Airlines was just under $400 RT! How can I be in Baltimore 1/2 way there and not go visit the girls even if for 5 days only? Sort of like surfing, if you aren't mongering and fully invested in the waters between 'Thanksgiving and the end of January' you are missing some of the best wave (s) of the year. I understand some folks are religious and / or tied down with family but if you are Jewish or Muslim or any religion that doesn't celebrate Christmas and not mongering somewhere in the world during this time frame please know our dear father Abraham whom we share as our eternal father would be very disappointed in us! He couldn't keep his dick in his pants and would expect the same of us except he got it for free. We have to pay in this era we live in but the deals are better in the upcoming months![/QUOTE]The consensus appears overwhelming that it's an excellent time to visit. My poor bank account is in for an unexpected pounding!

Thanks for all the replies, I will book the Brussels to Frankfurt flight & the return to the UK tonight before they increase in price.

I had considered going to Berlin for a long awaited return to Artemis but Sharks is fast becoming my number one Club.

Thanks again.

[QUOTE=Canary;2239677]The consensus appears overwhelming that it's an excellent time to visit. My poor bank account is in for an unexpected pounding!

Thanks for all the replies, I will book the Brussels to Frankfurt flight & the return to the UK tonight before they increase in price.

I had considered going to Berlin for a long awaited return to Artemis but Sharks is fast becoming my number one Club.

Thanks again.[/QUOTE]After the 15 of December the LU quality is decreasing a lot, nothing will improve until mid January now there are always less demanding guys ready to fuck just for fucking not my cup of tea sorry.

I am long time reader, so firstly thank you to you all for the great info!

I am looking to plan a trip in early December, however can only really fit in one destination so trying to decide where to go to and to which club so was looking for some advice? Leaning towards Sharks, however wondered if there was anywhere you would suggest over sharks?

I have previously been to Artemis both on Fri and Sat night (Friday was much better!) and had overall a good experience for a first time trip.

I prefer slightly younger 20-25 with pretty faces and quite enjoyed the large club feel of Artemis with lots of girls there. Also enjoyed the fact you could get some rest downstairs.

[QUOTE=Canary;2239677]The consensus appears overwhelming that it's an excellent time to visit. My poor bank account is in for an unexpected pounding!

Thanks for all the replies, I will book the Brussels to Frankfurt flight & the return to the UK tonight before they increase in price.

I had considered going to Berlin for a long awaited return to Artemis but Sharks is fast becoming my number one Club.

Thanks again.[/QUOTE]For money you saved not flying in over the Atlantic Ocean, your bank account should be in balance. LOL.

[QUOTE=Fox13;2239758]I am long time reader, so firstly thank you to you all for the great info!

I am looking to plan a trip in early December, however can only really fit in one destination so trying to decide where to go to and to which club so was looking for some advice? Leaning towards Sharks, however wondered if there was anywhere you would suggest over sharks?

I have previously been to Artemis both on Fri and Sat night (Friday was much better!) and had overall a good experience for a first time trip.

I prefer slightly younger 20-25 with pretty faces and quite enjoyed the large club feel of Artemis with lots of girls there. Also enjoyed the fact you could get some rest downstairs.[/QUOTE]Shark is the place for you, after you can try Oase but very negative reports on the German forums, be careful not to visit if there is a big fair in Frankfurt.

[QUOTE=Canary;2239378]I think this is a perfect example of how difficult it can be to recommend or not specific ladies.

I've never met Leoni but I've been told more than once that she is vg & a great sweet kisser.

Obviously being complex humans we all engage and react different to each other resulting in different experiences.

I think when I'm next at Sharks on Friday I will head straight to the "left side" of the bar (which very strangely I rarely venture to) where I think a number of these ladies hang out & try out a few different girls?[/QUOTE]I don't know if we all are about the same blond German, about 30 yo, staying close to restaurant. You should experience yourself. She proposed great sex and she was really attractive because so smiling and enthusiastic, with her pretty face, but maybe great, for German level, sex, but can t be for me without fluent kissing and I hate to have to beg for this, when I have many lovely Dacia all over FKK land, for great love in bed.

Flying in from the US landing Sat morning. Debating between Saturday afternoon / evening or Sunday afternoon / evening. Any feedback based on recent trips? I've been reading here religiously but figured I'the ask directly as well.

I'm leaning toward a taxi from my hotel right by the Hospital downtown. Seems like fares in reports vary, ranging from 40-60 Euro. What is realistic? Any pointers? Some suggested ask for flat rate of 45 E or 50 E?

I may hit Mainhattan as well the other day since it's close. Whatever day I don't visit Sharks.

Thanks in advance.

Leonie is about 27 yo German girl with flowers tattoos on her shoulders. Relatively new to Sharks. She might be pretty, but is not the type of girl I like. Besides she has quite a lot fine wrinkles on her face which makes her look little bit older. She approached me several times and I finally gave her a try. To be honest the one-hour session was just average. No kiss. No BBBJ. She preferred missionary position only. When I changed to other position such as reverse, she demanded that is a "feti-sh" and I should pay her extra 50 E. Frustrated. However surprised to myself I actually cum. She asked to smoke cigarette at 40 min, then we left room. I never try her again.

About the new pretty lovely girl you mentioned, did you suggest her to Globe? I don't like the idea. If she went to Globe, I would go there to ask her back. LOL.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2239342]You mean blond German with pretty face, small tits, about 30 yo, very smiling and real lovely behavior in lounge? We had a really sweet chat, but when she answered no french kiss, I don't know for German kiss? I didn't insist, I tried new Senja. Ro, lovely, enthusiastic, but not woman enough yet, but only 18 yo, so it was my fault for my choice. She is not ready yet for Globe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Memphis10;2239949]Flying in from the US landing Sat morning. Debating between Saturday afternoon / evening or Sunday afternoon / evening. Any feedback based on recent trips? I've been reading here religiously but figured I'the ask directly as well.

I'm leaning toward a taxi from my hotel right by the Hospital downtown. Seems like fares in reports vary, ranging from 40-60 Euro. What is realistic? Any pointers? Some suggested ask for flat rate of 45 E or 50 E?

I may hit Mainhattan as well the other day since it's close. Whatever day I don't visit Sharks.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Sorry I don't know from where you're coming, but 40 or 60 euros ID really not a big difference, Manhattan is a middle size club dedicated to tourist and fair visitors simple conclusion a cheating club, and a no go for me, Shark is the club with the biggest LU in Germany therefor always something to fuck.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2239942]I don't know if we all are about the same blond German, about 30 yo, staying close to restaurant. You should experience yourself. She proposed great sex and she was really attractive because so smiling and enthusiastic, with her pretty face, but maybe great, for German level, sex, but can t be for me without fluent kissing and I hate to have to beg for this, when I have many lovely Dacia all over FKK land, for great love in bed.[/QUOTE]You have in fact described Leoni. I think many guys misunderstand the German girls. On the outside they may appear aloof and unapproachable but once you get to know them they are very warm and genuine. However, Leoni is very engaging and has a lovely smile, I did not even negotiate service with her but requested a 1/2 hour 50 euro session which I always do on the first date. Because of her friendly nature I had chatted with her for quite a while before going to the room. I got a really good feeling about her during our pre-room conversation and was not disappointed in the room.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2240118]You have in fact described Leoni. I think many guys misunderstand the German girls. On the outside they may appear aloof and unapproachable but once you get to know them they are very warm and genuine. However, Leoni is very engaging and has a lovely smile, I did not even negotiate service with her but requested a 1/2 hour 50 euro session which I always do on the first date. Because of her friendly nature I had chatted with her for quite a while before going to the room. I got a really good feeling about her during our pre-room conversation and was not disappointed in the room.[/QUOTE]She was really nice, smiling, welcoming, but as I know German girls are not kissing specialists, I asked, she answered, I let her to her not busy business, even casting was so poor on this visit. Didn't return since then, because I find prettier girls on north.

[QUOTE=Memphis10;2239949]Flying in from the US landing Sat morning. Debating between Saturday afternoon / evening or Sunday afternoon / evening. Any feedback based on recent trips? I've been reading here religiously but figured I'the ask directly as well.

I'm leaning toward a taxi from my hotel right by the Hospital downtown. Seems like fares in reports vary, ranging from 40-60 Euro. What is realistic? Any pointers? Some suggested ask for flat rate of 45 E or 50 E?
.[/QUOTE]Look up my March trip. There is an express bus from the airport to Darmstadt for 8. 00 Euro. Stay in the Best Western. It is a 11-13 Euro cab ride to Sharks from the Best Western Downtown. The Best Western is very reasonable and a decent place to stay and it is within 5 KM of Sharks.

If you are a Marriott fan you can't beat the Marriott in Frankfurt Am Main. It is only a 23 minute drive at closing time but during the day and rush hour it is about twice that.
Also, for Marriott fans, a new Moxy hotel is due to open in Darmstadt in November. I have never stayed at a Moxy but it is a Marriott property.

If I am traveling on my own dime, I would use public transportation. The express bus from the airport to downtown Darmstadt and then the trolley over to the the Best Western went like clockwork. And from there it is a 12 Euro cab ride to Sharks or a 30 minute walk. This is all very simple and I am not a public transportation guy.

If I am traveling on someone else's dime I rent a car. Car rental in Europe is a bit pricier than in the States and be prepared for a thorough damage check after you turn a car in. This can resemble a police crime scene. Renting a car in Europe can take as long as applying for a mortgage. If you are Avis Preferred than you stand and wait 45 minutes in the Avis Preferred line. OJ wouldn't run through Frankfurt airport if he is renting a car. After my trip last year, I received two traffic fine via the mail from passive enforcement cameras. I still have my fingers crossed after my last trip. And don't forget to fill the tank after because they charge some extreme penalty like 70+ Euros or something. And you have to pay to park it. At least 12.50 E / night at the BW and it was twice that at the Marriott. However, if you have your own car you can hit all the out of the way FKKs and as long as you don't drink you can leave any time you would like.

Don't forget to write a detailed report with dates and prices, and names. Let us know how things work out. Good luck.

I met one of my all-time favourites again. Her name is Marla (czech). 175 cm. Black-hair. Very big, all-natural, 85-G-boobs. WOW, what an amazing pair of boobs. (This is the former Jordan from Oceans)

Also had two more good rooms. So all in good. But currently I prefer the GT ladies. The Sharks-ladies are bit too cold / professional.

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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2240089]Leonie is about 27 yo German girl with flowers tattoos on her shoulders. Relatively new to Sharks. She might be pretty, but is not the type of girl I like. Besides she has quite a lot fine wrinkles on her face which makes her look little bit older. She approached me several times and I finally gave her a try. To be honest the one-hour session was just average. No kiss. No BBBJ. She preferred missionary position only. When I changed to other position such as reverse, she demanded that is a "feti-sh" and I should pay her extra 50 E. Frustrated. However surprised to myself I actually cum. She asked to smoke cigarette at 40 min, then we left room. I never try her again.

About the new pretty lovely girl you mentioned, did you suggest her to Globe? I don't like the idea. If she went to Globe, I would go there to ask her back. LOL.[/QUOTE]Leoni is my woman type and was the most attractive for me among a so poor casting on this September Friday or Saturday. What a bad level room for you, she is so nice to chat, but honest to answer she is not french kissing, so not for my pleasure.

If you mean Senja, I was with a Swiss guy on that day who introduced me to her and advised me her, because not really my type, not elegant woman type enough, but I agree lovely.

[QUOTE=Fox13;2239758]I am long time reader, so firstly thank you to you all for the great info!

I am looking to plan a trip in early December, however can only really fit in one destination so trying to decide where to go to and to which club so was looking for some advice? Leaning towards Sharks, however wondered if there was anywhere you would suggest over sharks?

I have previously been to Artemis both on Fri and Sat night (Friday was much better!) and had overall a good experience for a first time trip.

I prefer slightly younger 20-25 with pretty faces and quite enjoyed the large club feel of Artemis with lots of girls there. Also enjoyed the fact you could get some rest downstairs.[/QUOTE]Only sharks can compete with Artemis!

The girls are younger than Oase, Palace or Manhatten.

The shark lounge is huge compared with the other 3 big club in Frankfurt area.

How long shall a girl take time for cleaning between 2 customer?

Of course all girl claim to be 100% clean, when they come out the gardarobe.

But I see a lot girls going to the gardarobe for 2—3 minutes for cleaning, after they had room.

This is far not enough to clean.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2203411]One can say a lot about Artemis, but it is not upselling land. Unless it just started being so this year that is.[/QUOTE]Is she till there, I haven't seen her a long time. A pity!

[QUOTE=Memphis10;2239949]Flying in from the US landing Sat morning. Debating between Saturday afternoon / evening or Sunday afternoon / evening. Any feedback based on recent trips? I've been reading here religiously but figured I'the ask directly as well.

I'm leaning toward a taxi from my hotel right by the Hospital downtown. Seems like fares in reports vary, ranging from 40-60 Euro. What is realistic? Any pointers? Some suggested ask for flat rate of 45 E or 50 E?

I may hit Mainhattan as well the other day since it's close. Whatever day I don't visit Sharks.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Saturday for line up quality and Sunday for better ratio. Sunday evenings at Sharks tend to die early, like 10 pm. Forget Mainhattan on Sunday nights; it's a depressing scene.

50 euro for direct taxi is about right. Public transport from downtown is a little cumbersome as it involves a transfer once you get to Darmstadt or an additional 20-30 min walk if you don't jump on a bus. I would just rent a car with the only potential issue being parking in downtown if your hotel does not provide parking; that's usually an extra 15-20 per day. I disagree with a previous poster's assertion that rentals are more expensive in Europe, at least not in Germany. Rentals in Germany are consistently cheaper than in the US at around $30 for standard cars. In the US, you're comparatively looking at $30 for the cheapest economy car. Comparatively a round trip taxi fare is $100 for a one day visit. For the same $100, you get the car rental for around $50-$60 and can use the rest to cover parking and gas. At worst, you break even, assuming you don't purchase the insurance of course.

Obviously public transport is the cheapest option but you're looking at 1.5 hours from hotel to Sharks versus a 30 minute commute by car, plus you can't use public transport after 1230 am.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2240167]Leoni is my woman type and was the most attractive for me among a so poor casting on this September Friday or Saturday. What a bad level room for you, she is so nice to chat, but honest to answer she is not french kissing, so not for my pleasure.

If you mean Senja, I was with a Swiss guy on that day who introduced me to her and advised me her, because not really my type, not elegant woman type enough, but I agree lovely.[/QUOTE]We both, with Swiss guy, told Svenja she doesn t have yet Globe level in bed, nor care for look. Sharks is not Globe level, and a big gap now. Sharks is not anymore what it was until Easter 2016 , when Katalina, Karin left. Also no more Agnes, Sandra.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2203411]One can say a lot about Artemis, but it is not upselling land. Unless it just started being so this year that is.[/QUOTE]Artemis has been an upselling club for many years. The only thing is that there days, even if you take the up sell, it doesn't guarantee good service anymore.

[QUOTE=PokerWiesBaden;2240307]How long shall a girl take time for cleaning between 2 customer?

Of course all girl claim to be 100% clean, when they come out the gardarobe.

But I see a lot girls going to the gardarobe for 23 minutes for cleaning, after they had room.

This is far not enough to clean.[/QUOTE]How a girl clean her mouth and body show her respect for clients who make her business and level of what woman she is. Some girls wash with cleanings for baby, because 10 showers a day is not good for skin, but I agree: Impossible to wash good in 2 mn.

I remember one of my record rooms girls told me often she couldn't work just after me, taking sometimes 30 mn even she didn't smoke, but we had sometimes 3 rooms on same day, and so many rooms for 1 year.

With some girls, You can taste them everywhere.

[QUOTE=Takedown;2240340]Obviously public transport is the cheapest option but you're looking at 1.5 hours from hotel to Sharks versus a 30 minute commute by car, plus you can't use public transport after 1230 am.[/QUOTE]Depending on time of day, quickest public transportation from Frankfurt Main Station is 29 minutes. Cost is either 12,50 EUR or 8,50 EU.

If one arrives at a reasonable time like before 3 pm, I don't see any additional value in staying past 1230 am at Sharks. Many WGs go home and you only get a fraction of the LU. Male-to-female ratios could easily be 4-to-1. This is true on Friday and Saturday. Only bread and soup is available after 1am (someone can correct me if wrong).

Staying at Hotel Conti might be the cheapest and most time-efficient option. So one could fly into Frankfurt, book six nights at Hotel Conti, and walk to Sharks. You have the flexibility of walking back to the hotel if you need to answer work e-mails or Skype the girlfriend. You can also drink as much alcohol as you like. The biggest reasons for choosing rental car would be (1) flexibility of not committing to a specific club for a specific day, (2) flexibility to attend multiple clubs per day, and (3) sleeping in your car to save on hotel costs.

For a two-day trip, I would suggest that Memphis10 switch his hotel to Darmstadt if he can. And just attend Sharks both days. Biggest LU. Agree with Takedown--I don't think there is much to see at Manhattan on Sunday. Then buy round trip Airliner bus ticket from Airport to Darmstadt main station. https://www.tu-darmstadt.de/media/dez_viii_medien/medien_welcomecentre/Airliner-2015.pdf

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2240483]Depending on time of day, quickest public transportation from Frankfurt Main Station is 29 minutes. Cost is either 12,50 EUR or 8,50 EU.

If one arrives at a reasonable time like before 3 pm, I don't see any additional value in staying past 1230 am at Sharks. Many WGs go home and you only get a fraction of the LU. Male-to-female ratios could easily be 4-to-1. This is true on Friday and Saturday. Only bread and soup is available after 1am (someone can correct me if wrong).

Staying at Hotel Conti might be the cheapest and most time-efficient option. So one could fly into Frankfurt, book six nights at Hotel Conti, and walk to Sharks. You have the flexibility of walking back to the hotel if you need to answer work e-mails or Skype the girlfriend. You can also drink as much alcohol as you like. The biggest reasons for choosing rental car would be (1) flexibility of not committing to a specific club for a specific day, (2) flexibility to attend multiple clubs per day, and (3) sleeping in your car to save on hotel costs.

For a two-day trip, I would suggest that Memphis10 switch his hotel to Darmstadt if he can. And just attend Sharks both days. Biggest LU. Agree with Takedown--I don't think there is much to see at Manhattan on Sunday. Then buy round trip Airliner bus ticket from Airport to Darmstadt main station. https://www.tu-darmstadt.de/media/dez_viii_medien/medien_welcomecentre/Airliner-2015.pdf[/QUOTE]You mean Contel hotel? 300 m from Sharks.

[QUOTE=Takedown;2240340]....., plus you can't use public transport after 1230 am.[/QUOTE]In the very early morning hours of Saturdays and Sundays, there a now trains leaving Darmstadt main station at 1:30,1:35,2:35,3:30 and 3:35 going to Frankfurt main station! So, no problem staying longer on Friday and Saturday nights at Sharks.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2240132]Look up my March trip. There is an express bus from the airport to Darmstadt for 8. 00 Euro. Stay in the Best Western. It is a 11-13 Euro cab ride to Sharks from the Best Western Downtown. The Best Western is very reasonable and a decent place to stay and it is within 5 KM of Sharks.

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Don't forget to write a detailed report with dates and prices, and names. Let us know how things work out. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Already booked nonrefundable at Fleming's so I'm kinda stuck there. This was all planned prior to discovering FKKs or I'the do as you described.

Will absolutely write up a very detailed trip report upon return (or the next day). I can't express enough gratitude for the reviews here.

Most of the trip is business but FKK weekend travel will be on my dime. €50 is high for taxi but I don't know when I get back and am uneasy with Sbahn and random walking / etc in Germany (first time) so its worth it for minimal hassle.

Thank you again!

[QUOTE=Takedown;2240340]Saturday for line up quality and Sunday for better ratio. Sunday evenings at Sharks tend to die early, like 10 pm. Forget Mainhattan on Sunday nights; it's a depressing scene.

50 euro for direct taxi is about right. [/QUOTE]Very interesting.

So caliber of ladies at Sharks Saturday is much or marginally better? What ratio M / F is typical? Ratios are much better Sunday? Is lineup at least worth the trip? (For someone seeking 8's+?) Thank you for this.

Now I'm half wondering if I stay close Saturday (long day flying over) and hit Mainhattan 3 or 4 till 12 ish to "get my FKK feet wet", then head to Sharks Sunday for discount admission around 2-3 and stay till 12 ish?

Or am I shorting myself badly by not seeing Sharks Saturday night? FYI budget is not crazy big. Maybe €7-800 for weekend not counting taxis.

Thank you all again.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2203411]One can say a lot about Artemis, but it is not upselling land. Unless it just started being so this year that is.[/QUOTE]How many shares do you own from Artemis or you like joking, there is not 1 positive review on the German forums for years, probably we are all stupid not to appreciate at the right level the beautiful Artemis FKK.

My 1.5 hour estimate is probably a little too conservative but my guess is that it would take him well over an hour to get to Central station, wait for trains, take the ride, then walk or bus to Sharks. Not sure where you saw the 29 minute route but most routes from central station are roughly 45 minutes not including walking time, purchasing ticket time, and wait time. No way he does it in 30.

My experience on Saturdays is that girls start leaving at 10 pm but many top girls stay until 2 am and it fizzles after that, but my last visit was back in August.

But yeah, if visiting just for hobbying and changing your hotel is even an option, then take the Airliner and stay at Contel.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2240483]Depending on time of day, quickest public transportation from Frankfurt Main Station is 29 minutes. Cost is either 12,50 EUR or 8,50 EU.

If one arrives at a reasonable time like before 3 pm, I don't see any additional value in staying past 1230 am at Sharks. Many WGs go home and you only get a fraction of the LU. Male-to-female ratios could easily be 4-to-1. This is true on Friday and Saturday. Only bread and soup is available after 1am (someone can correct me if wrong).

Staying at Hotel Conti might be the cheapest and most time-efficient option. So one could fly into Frankfurt, book six nights at Hotel Conti, and walk to Sharks. You have the flexibility of walking back to the hotel if you need to answer work e-mails or Skype the girlfriend. You can also drink as much alcohol as you like. The biggest reasons for choosing rental car would be (1) flexibility of not committing to a specific club for a specific day, (2) flexibility to attend multiple clubs per day, and (3) sleeping in your car to save on hotel costs.

For a two-day trip, I would suggest that Memphis10 switch his hotel to Darmstadt if he can. And just attend Sharks both days. Biggest LU. Agree with Takedown--I don't think there is much to see at Manhattan on Sunday. Then buy round trip Airliner bus ticket from Airport to Darmstadt main station. https://www.tu-darmstadt.de/media/dez_viii_medien/medien_welcomecentre/Airliner-2015.pdf[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2240483]Only bread and soup is available after 1am (someone can correct me if wrong).[/QUOTE]There is normal food available past 1 am, but they don't cook anymore / refill the buffet after that. So it all depends how quickly it gets eaten up by patrons. Also it depends on the day and how many patrons the club has, it seems from my experience. More customers / nights which are more crowded, food stays out / gets refilled longer. I've seen regular food out until 2+/3, and I've also seen days where 1 am+, you're lucky if there's still bread.

[QUOTE=Takedown;2240519]My 1.5 hour estimate is probably a little too conservative but my guess is that it would take him well over an hour to get to Central station, wait for trains, take the ride, then walk or bus to Sharks. Not sure where you saw the 29 minute route but most routes from central station are roughly 45 minutes not including walking time, purchasing ticket .[/QUOTE]Maybe there is a faster way but I will be going on the RB68. Once at the station (hotel is 5 minute walk) on the upper tracks the RB68 leaves on the:06 each hour. In theory upon arrival to the tracks the machine to buy the ticket is right on the platform, takes 30 seconds, 8,50 e. Hop on the train pulls in to Darmstadt 19 minutes later at:25, two minutes to walk to a cab and tell him you want the fixed 10 e fare and arrive at Sharks 10 minutes later. Total time hotel to Sharks 36 minutes roughly, call it 35-40 minutes door to door.

Coming back same thing leaves Darmstadt on the:30 and:19 back to the city. Late night things change a tad, see Nick's post below.

Several other regional not the SBahns also leave the upper tracks and have fast rides, the RB60 looks like it is only:17 min; that RB60 is usually the one coming back I would get on if late night and the RB68 wasn't running.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2240596]Maybe there is a faster way but I will be going on the RB68. Once at the station (hotel is 5 minute walk) on the upper tracks the RB68 leaves on the:06 each hour. In theory upon arrival to the tracks the machine to buy the ticket is right on the platform, takes 30 seconds, 8,50 e. Hop on the train pulls in to Darmstadt 19 minutes later at:25, two minutes to walk to a cab and tell him you want the fixed 10 e fare and arrive at Sharks 10 minutes later. Total time hotel to Sharks 36 minutes roughly, call it 35-40 minutes door to door.
[/QUOTE]All these discussions about getting to Sharks from FFM-Hbf via public transport and how it takes minimum 45 mins, involving sometimes 10 Euro taxi rides, etc. : But why doesn't anybody mention the VIA train from Gleis 12 (Frankfurt Hbf) that goes direct to Darmstadt Nord station, which is only a 12-15 minute (easy) walk to Sharks door? This is the easiest and fastest and cheapest way to go to Sharks via public transport from central Frankfurt. Coming back, if after 22.00, your best bet is to revert to the train connections from Darmstadt Hbf.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2240642]All these discussions about getting to Sharks from FFM-Hbf via public transport and how it takes minimum 45 mins, involving sometimes 10 Euro taxi rides, etc. : But why doesn't anybody mention the VIA train from Gleis 12 (Frankfurt Hbf) that goes direct to Darmstadt Nord station, which is only a 12-15 minute (easy) walk to Sharks door?.[/QUOTE]The writer says he is staying in a hotel beside the hospital, presumably Fleming's. He is thus a very short walk from Ostendstrasse station where he can catch the S3 direct to Darmstadt hourly. From Ostendstrasse to Darmstadt it is only about 30 minutes. The S3 arrives at Darmstadt at xx55. He can take Bus R at xx04 for free, and he wiil be at the bus stop outside Sharks by xx11. Total of about 45 minutes including walking time. (Very little 'random walking' required.)

Actually he can get to Mainhatten even faster from there using Tram11. Total of about 20 minutes.

And if he had only booked the other Fleming's instead, he could have hopped to FKK Palace in 15 seconds!

You guys realize that this is his first time right? If you've made the trip a dozen times, sure you can get there in 45 flat. But let's be realistic and plan for inefficiencies in the system.

Memphis, on such a short trip and for a first timer, I would not even waste time at Mainhattan. It might be worth it once you've made some visits and are ready to explore more clubs searching for diamonds in the rough. Sharks is ideal for a first timer due to the large volume and I can't say that the girls there target first timers any more than at Mainhattan. It would be good to see Sharks at 6 pm on a Saturday as that would probably be the single best combination of time and place to find the best optical line up in all of Germany with perhaps Oase being second.

My personal itinerary however would be Oase Saturday afternoon before 4 pm and through the night then back at Sharks before 1 pm the next day to catch both discount entries. This allows you to see 2 clubs while being able to catch 2 relatively prime times for optics.

700-800 is plenty for 2 days unless you're overpaying or doing tons of anal and CIM, or drinking a lot.

[QUOTE=Memphis10;2240515]Very interesting.

So caliber of ladies at Sharks Saturday is much or marginally better? What ratio M / F is typical? Ratios are much better Sunday? Is lineup at least worth the trip? (For someone seeking 8's+?) Thank you for this.

Now I'm half wondering if I stay close Saturday (long day flying over) and hit Mainhattan 3 or 4 till 12 ish to "get my FKK feet wet", then head to Sharks Sunday for discount admission around 2-3 and stay till 12 ish?

Or am I shorting myself badly by not seeing Sharks Saturday night? FYI budget is not crazy big. Maybe 7-800 for weekend not counting taxis.

Thank you all again.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2240661]The writer says he is staying in a hotel beside the hospital, presumably Fleming's. He is thus a very short walk from Ostendstrasse station where he can catch the S3 direct to Darmstadt hourly. From Ostendstrasse to Darmstadt it is only about 30 minutes. The S3 arrives at Darmstadt at xx55. He can take Bus R at xx04 for free, and he wiil be at the bus stop outside Sharks by xx11. Total of about 45 minutes including walking time. (Very little 'random walking' required.)

Actually he can get to Mainhatten even faster from there using Tram11. Total of about 20 minutes.

And if he had only booked the other Fleming's instead, he could have hopped to FKK Palace in 15 seconds![/QUOTE]Interesting. Is Bus are inside Darmstadt station or very easy to find outside (for a non German speaking noob)?

If that fails is myTaxi reliable to grab a ride from there to Sharks if I somehow fuck up the transfer?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2240596]Several other regional not the S-Bahns also leave the upper tracks and have fast rides, the RB60 looks like it is only 17 min; that RB60 is usually the one coming back I would get on if late night and the RB68 wasn't running.[/QUOTE]RB 68/ RE 70 (Main-Neckar-Ried-Express) is now running with great new trains ("Twindexx", manufacturer: Bombardier, Canada). And as already stated, they are fast (17-18 min), only one stop between Frankfurt and Darmstadt at Langen.

In the night: latest departure from Darmstadt at 00:30, (1:30 and 3:30 only on Saturday and Sunday early mornings).

caution: in the coming weeks, there is a lot of construction work going on, so some trains may not be running after midnight!

[QUOTE=Ortos;2240642]But why doesn't anybody mention the VIA train from Gleis 12 (Frankfurt Hbf) that goes direct to Darmstadt Nord station, which is only a 12-15 minute (easy) walk to Sharks door? This is the easiest and fastest and cheapest way to go to Sharks via public transport from central Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]True, and forgotten again and again. You mentioned it several times before here on the forum.

Restriction can be that until 15:25 trains leave Frankfurt only every second hour.

And: yeah, it is nice to walk from Darmstadt Nord to Sharks, but imo only if the weather is fine.

[QUOTE=LocoTonto;2240561]There is normal food available past 1 am, but they don't cook anymore / refill the buffet after that. So it all depends how quickly it gets eaten up by patrons. Also it depends on the day and how many patrons the club has, it seems from my experience. More customers / nights which are more crowded, food stays out / gets refilled longer. I've seen regular food out until 2+/3, and I've also seen days where 1 am+, you're lucky if there's still bread.[/QUOTE]What's annoying is when there's plenty of food left and they're putting it away at 1 am. I've seen they on slow Monday nights.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2240642]All these discussions about getting to Sharks from FFM-Hbf via public transport and how it takes minimum 45 mins, involving sometimes 10 Euro taxi rides, etc. : But why doesn't anybody mention the VIA train from Gleis 12 (Frankfurt Hbf) that goes direct to Darmstadt Nord station, which is only a 12-15 minute (easy) walk to Sharks door? This is the easiest and fastest and cheapest way to go to Sharks via public transport from central Frankfurt. Coming back, if after 22.00, your best bet is to revert to the train connections from Darmstadt Hbf.[/QUOTE]Yep, this is nice / fast / easy way to get there. The walk is a nice stroll (not so much in February I suspect). I did budget for a cab back to Frankfurt Hbf each time so as not to worry about making the last train back.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2240758]True, and forgotten again and again. You mentioned it several times before here on the forum.

[/QUOTE]Yes, I also mentioned a few times that it was Syzygies who first "scooped" and posted this cheapest / fastest route to Sharks from FFM Hbf, so I think all of us who take advantage of this owe thanks to him.

Another restriction is the last VIA train back to FFM: 22.12 or .13.

I recommend getting the DB (Deutsch Bahn) App it great for working out what your best options are for getting back to Frankfurt, especially as it is for train and bus with updates for the inevitable delays that the train will have. I also think you can buy e tickets on it which might be an option if you want to try fare dodging and do see a conductor.

I find it one of the most surprising thing about Germany is how often trains are canceled or delayed, so always build it in to my plans. Also the Nord Bahnhoff option is great on Sundays as the bus is so infrequent back to the Darmstadt Hbf.

[QUOTE=Memphis10;2240754]Interesting. Is Bus are inside Darmstadt station or very easy to find outside (for a non German speaking noob)?

If that fails is myTaxi reliable to grab a ride from there to Sharks if I somehow fuck up the transfer?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Bus station is right outside of main train station. There are three-four bus stop (I think), one of them will have bus are on it. You can get taxi right there or you can use my taxi apps. Either of them will cost you around E10-E13. Or you can turn on google map to walk to Sharks for about 30 minutes. However, if you get to Darmsdadt Nord (north), it will only take you about 15 min walk.

[QUOTE=Memphis10;2240754]Interesting. Is Bus are inside Darmstadt station or very easy to find outside (for a non German speaking noob)?

If that fails is myTaxi reliable to grab a ride from there to Sharks if I somehow fuck up the transfer?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Go out through the main station exit straight ahead, and not the exit to the right that says 'taxi'. After exiting, just cross the road and tramlines towards the bus stop diagonally to the LEFT towards the MacDonalds. Unfortunately, the sign posting is really bad so it does not mention the buses stopping there. However, there is an electronic signboard within the bus stop which tells you how long before the next bus arrives.

The bus R that you need is the one that says 'Nordbahnhof', and you get off at 'Daimlerweg'. If you see a bus R that does not say 'Nordbahnhof', then you are on the wrong side of the road, you need then to cross the road to the MacDonalds.

There are clear announcements in the bus before each stop. At that stop, just walk straight on 20 metres in the direction of the bus and a large 'FKK Sharks' poster will greet you (ignore all the 'Hornbach' posters). And remember, the bus ride is free with your train ticket.

If you need taxis there are always a long line of them at the taxi rank at the other exit of the station, no need for any phone apps.

NqCoolhandluke's post just reminded me that the bus comes only hourly and not every 20 minutes on Sundays. So, on Sunday, Darmstadt Nord would be a better option if you want to save on taxi fare. You can enjoy yourself taking your time doing a random walk to get to Sharks. No hurry as on Sunday mornings, there would be only a handful of unattractive girls, plus loads of bears exploiting the cheap entry competing with you for space to change in the locker room.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2240758]And: yeah, it is nice to walk from Darmstadt Nord to Sharks, but imo only if the weather is fine.[/QUOTE]I've only been to Darmstadt Nord station once, and that was on warm spring day. It was a Sunday around 1 pm. Only three men disembarked. Not surprisingly, it became quite clear within minutes that we all were walking towards Sharks. I didn't notice any train ticket agents or taxis. Does it always feel like a ghost-town?

The more busy nature of Darmstadt Main station is probably comforting to a non-German speaking newbie simply because there is an (1) information center (2) taxi stand, and (3) most importantly people around that you can ask to translate if for instance something important is said over the loudspeaker. CoolHandLuke is correct. I've been around when there was a disruption in train service. And luckily I was at Darmstadt Main Station and not Darmstadt Nord.

[QUOTE=NqCoolHandLuke;2240849]I also think you can buy e tickets on it which might be an option if you want to try fare dodging and do see a conductor.[/QUOTE]Yes, tickets can be purchased and downloaded into app. Ticket agent scans the barcode.

[QUOTE=Memphis10;2240754]Is Bus are inside Darmstadt station or very easy to find outside (for a non German speaking noob)?[/QUOTE]When the train arrives Darmstadt Hbf, you get off on the platform and walk up the stairs that take passengers up to street level. From there, there are only two exits, which Google Maps depicts. You will walk towards the direction of Yormas Express (which Google Maps also shows) and exit the station there. I suspect most people will be walking in this direction because this is where the bus stops and taxi stand are located. When you exit, you should be in a plaza, where you will see multiple bus stands. The bus stands should be the green objects in the photo (see link below).

[URL=https://www.google.com/maps/@49.8727522,8.6313788,3a,75y,62.4h,90t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipOzR8DiUYMApI86V0slbknx_mTm5bPgsM-QOR44!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipOzR8DiUYMApI86V0slbknx_mTm5bPgsM-QOR44%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya144.94757-ro-0-fo100!7i8192!8i4096]Google Street View of Darmstadt Hbf plaza[/URL]

Prior to that exit, you should see a digital display overhead that says something like "BusR toward Nordbahnof departs from bus stand 2 in 4 minutes".

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2240912]I've only been to Darmstadt Nord station once, . Does it always feel like a ghost-town?
[/QUOTE]Yeah, it must have been a ghost-town. Because I have been there many times, and I have yet to spot any town there!

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2240906]And remember, the bus ride is free with your train ticket.[/QUOTE]If you buy a day ticket between Frankfurt and Darmstadt Nord, yes.

If you buy a oneway ticket that might be different! To be sure, if you come in via Darmstadt Hbf and want to take a bus "are" to Sharks, use Darmstadt Nord as destination when you buy the ticket. If you come from Frankfurt with a VIAS train and you exit in Darmstadt Nord and you want to take a bus from there to Sharks, you better use Darmstadt Main station as destination when you buy the ticket.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2240912]I've only been to Darmstadt Nord station once. Does it always feel like a ghost-town?[/QUOTE]They did every thing possible to make you feel home in Romania there, from the moment you leave the train!

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2240921]If you buy a day ticket between Frankfurt and Darmstadt, yes.If you buy a oneway ticket it might be different.[/QUOTE]It is certainly free also for the one-way trip. I have asked the bus conductor before.

For the return trip, I tell the bus conductor Frankfurt Hbf, and he will issue me the train ticket for the whole trip for the same 8.50 euros.

Also, it does not matter when you buy the ticket whether you put Nord, Mitte, or any of the numerous other options as they all just print the same area code (4000 if I remember correctly) to bring you anywhere in that area, so long as you do not back-track.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2240830]Yes, I also mentioned a few times that it was Syzygies who first "scooped" and posted this cheapest / fastest route to Sharks from FFM Hbf, so I think all of us who take advantage of this owe thanks to him.[/QUOTE]Yes, it was one of the legendary Syzygies' post that informed me of this option.

It is especially appropriate for someone like him with long legs. There was a day some years ago, when the VIA train arrived at Darmstadt Nord, I saw him immediately bolt out. By the time I rounded the bend of Otto-Rohm-Strasse, he was not in sight, presumable already entering Sharks.

It is strange that you mentioned his name, as it was only a few nights ago that I was reminded of him when, in a gameshow on the telly, some whizz kids were asked the meaning of 'Syzygy'. Maybe the planets are now in syzygy and we might see his return to FKK land from the Soi's of Bangkok, and we can all benefit from his lists again.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2240830]Yes, I also mentioned a few times that it was Syzygies who first "scooped" and posted this cheapest / fastest route to Sharks from FFM Hbf, so I think all of us who take advantage of this owe thanks to him.

Another restriction is the last VIA train back to FFM: 22.12 or .13.[/QUOTE]Had a weird experience with this VIA train last Wednesday (17/10). Boarded the train at Frankfurt and 10 minutes into 20 minute ride, they started making some announcements in German. No clue what they were saying asked the guy next to me and found out that the train is going to make a detour but would stop at Darmstatd Nord. When the station approached the train didn't stop and kept going. It stopped at Darmstadt-Kranichstein. Got out and it seemed middle of nowhere. Used my MyTaxi app to call a taxi to get to Sharks. It costed me 15 E and 20-25 minutes extra to get to Sharks.

Decided to take Darmstatd HBF route from next time.

[QUOTE=Austin28;2240939]Had a weird experience with this VIA train last Wednesday (17/10). Boarded the train at Frankfurt and 10 minutes into 20 minute ride, they started making some announcements in German. No clue what they were saying asked the guy next to me and found out that the train is going to make a detour but would stop at Darmstatd Nord. When the station approached the train didn't stop and kept going. It stopped at Darmstadt-Kranichstein. Got out and it seemed middle of nowhere. Used my MyTaxi app to call a taxi to get to Sharks. It costed me 15 E and 20-25 minutes extra to get to Sharks.

Decided to take Darmstatd HBF route from next time.[/QUOTE]It happened to me too some years ago. But I stayed on as a German woman beside me assured me that it would go back to Darmstadt Nord. Soon, it went back the other direction and we were at Darmstadt Nord. Seems that there was another train stuck at Darmstadt Nord wanting to head north and the VIA train had to get out of its way.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2240922]They did every thing possible to make you feel home in Romania there, from the moment you leave the train![/QUOTE]I thought only Transylvania was a Ghost Town in Romania? But is it the entire Country? LOL!

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2240917]Yeah, it must have been a ghost-town. Because I have been there many times, and I have yet to spot any town there![/QUOTE]You need Spectral Viewers and tune them at the right frequency.

I always go directly to Sharks with a taxi:

It costs 40 e / 15-20 min.

With the bus + taxi, it costs 18 e / 45-50 min (10 min avg wait time for the bus, 30 min with the bus, plus 10 min taxi).

Time is short.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2240994]It happened to me too some years ago. But I stayed on as a German woman beside me assured me that it would go back to Darmstadt Nord. Soon, it went back the other direction and we were at Darmstadt Nord. Seems that there was another train stuck at Darmstadt Nord wanting to head north and the VIA train had to get out of its way.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2241188]I always go directly to Sharks with a taxi:

It costs 40 e / 15-20 min.

With the bus + taxi, it costs 18 e / 45-50 min (10 min avg wait time for the bus, 30 min with the bus, plus 10 min taxi).

Time is short.[/QUOTE]I always go directly to Sharks with my rental car. It costs 30 e with gas each day. That's 15 e each way. I win, LOL.

Thank you so much for all the advice. I was going to come tonight but I didn't sleep on the fight over (Red Sox game 3 went 18 innings). I want to be well rested and enjoy the day. So I will go tomorrow early afternoon and make a day / night of it.

Thank you all again so much for the advice and answers. I will post updates / reviews from first timer perspective soon after.

I'm not half considering crashing Mainhattan tonight for a few hours to drink and get accustomed to FKK.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2240934]..............There was a day some years ago, when the VIA train arrived at Darmstadt Nord, I saw him immediately bolt out. By the time I rounded the bend of Otto-Rohm-Strasse, he was not in sight, presumable already entering Sharks...............[/QUOTE]If it was me instead of you and I was horny I would most likely have overtaken Syzygies.

Oh. Rentals. So much hassle. Drop off is ok, but pick up? Naeh? Takes at least 30 min to get one. LOL.

[QUOTE=Takedown;2241194]I always go directly to Sharks with my rental car. It costs 30 e with gas each day. That's 15 e each way. I win, LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2241272]Oh. Rentals. So much hassle. Drop off is ok, but pick up? Naeh? Takes at least 30 min to get one. LOL.[/QUOTE]If you prebooked the keys are ready. All you need to show is your licence and sign the chit and you are away.

If you are on the preferred list the keys are actually on the dash of the car and the car is unlocked so you throw your luggage in the car, sign the chit just before you leave the barrier at the exit. Takes minutes.

Why does it take 30 minutes?

[QUOTE=Canary;2238696]Presumably you're a regular attendee being able to put a name to a face, however I applaud your knowledge & attention to detail regards to the ladies working.

Unfortunately I only visit Clubs when I can (about 9th visit this year) and even though I've been to Sharks a few times recently I still have problems recognizing ladies. Even those that I've previously sessioned with!

When I'm next at Sharks this Friday I would love to check out the famous Mandy, Betty, Dina, Kimberley, Mia, Carla, Leoni etc but trying to recognise them is difficult.

I've given up asking girls about other girls names as I guess it's not in their interest to give them work / money & unlike the receptionists at Artemis and Oase I've never found the Sharks reception very helpful. The bar staff always seem to be so busy.[/QUOTE]Well another visit to to the place of fun was had, I still find every visit is very different to my previous visits and this was no exception.

Although it was busy I thought it was quite for a Friday night with plenty of ladies available, many new since my last visit eight weeks ago.

Many of my plans didn't come to fruition for various reasons so lesson number one is in the future to have limited plans and just "go with the flow".

I had wanted to "check out" the much mentioned Mandy but one of the more helpful Sharks staff behind the bar informed me she hadn't come to the Club that night. Other potential targets were the alleged filthy lady May Linn from the Philippines who also appeared absent and another Angelica from Latvia, the lady with the huge tits & arse who I saw talking to a guy early in the evening but never saw her again.

While sitting at the bar Anastasia (young, slim Romanian blonde) recognised me from our previous meeting and after a long chat on the sofa we took a room. She was again vg giving her usual excellent BJ amongst other activities but for me it didn't quite live up to our previous time together. Maybe it was me feeling tired or her trying to upsell a lot more than before but although fun I opted for just the hour.

Session two was with Maria, claimed to be Moldavian? Maria is brunette with large tits (natural I think from memory), large, well larger everywhere really, just the totally opposite look to Anastasia. She had approached me before when I politely declined but as I said before it was a fairly quite Friday night so ladies were battling for custom. On her second approach I was "resting" but she continued to "play with me" under my robe at the bar for nearly half an hour.

I decided to go with her because she ticked both my main boxes; if a girl takes a while talking to you before talking business and I get "the vibe" with her during the interview cutting through the usual bullshit rarely do I then have a poor time.

With Maria I hit the jackpot. I'm quite pacific with what I like & feeling particularly lazy this evening Maria had her work cut out but my God did she put the effort in!! She may be a larger build to some of the ladies but she didn't stop or complain throughout resulting in several booking extensions by myself, we went through two bottles of oil!! Only one brief offer of upsell.

Session three was with a regular Ena. She rarely gets mentioned on ISG and during this evening she hadn't found work which I find truly amazing. A Romanian brunette, probably in her 30's, lovely soft slim body, medium boobs, nice small bum with large bright eyes. She doesn't smile much which maybe is a reason for her sometimes lack of business but in the room she certainly is great fun and the smiles flow among other things.

This was a unique evening for me as I've never had only three bookings albeit two were particularly long sessions.

With many of "my targets" not working or unavailable the choice of German girls available didn't unfortunately excite me.

My plan to converse with a patron or two regarding the ladies failed. The few single chaps I spoke to didn't really engage (I have many friends, honest, but in the FKK Club world I don't seem to connect LOL.) There were many groups of men I noticed, mainly of Asian decent.

The girls said a lot of the clientele this evening were Albanian and ironically Romanian of which some of the Romanian girls preferred not to mix with, work that one out!

I will be back to Sharks on 29th November for my last visit of the year. I won't make many definite plans this time with the exception maybe to do something different & take more shorter rooms with different girls. When I meet a girl I connect with who provides an exceptional service to my tastes I like to extend the booking so trying a bigger selection of girls will be different.

If anyone will be at Sharks on 29/11 and would like to meet up just drop me a line.

[QUOTE=OmarRap;2241288]If you prebooked the keys are ready. All you need to show is your licence and sign the chit and you are away.

If you are on the preferred list the keys are actually on the dash of the car and the car is unlocked so you throw your luggage in the car, sign the chit just before you leave the barrier at the exit. Takes minutes.

Why does it take 30 minutes?[/QUOTE]Obviously the best, fastest, and may be cheapest way to discover the FKK clubs is to drive his own car, so much time, energy and may be money to save, you can drive from one club to another benefit from some cheap entry fees.

[QUOTE=OmarRap;2241288]If you prebooked the keys are ready. All you need to show is your licence and sign the chit and you are away.

If you are on the preferred list the keys are actually on the dash of the car and the car is unlocked so you throw your luggage in the car, sign the chit just before you leave the barrier at the exit. Takes minutes.

Why does it take 30 minutes?[/QUOTE]I probably average 15 minutes with one 30 minute occurrence when there was a line of 6 with one agent working the counter.

Even for the 30 minute pick up time, it's still worth the cost savings and freedom. But I guess like McA said before, if you're only going to Sharks and staying at a near by, walkable hotel, then the rental loses its worth. Otherwise I don't understand why people go through all this trouble with public transport or paying the outrageous German taxi fares when German car rentals are so cheap. I guess the one caveat is that you cannot be drinking and driving.

All of the other recurrent discussions are pretty subjective but this one seems to be the one supported by basic objective math.

I will visit Sharks next week.

Are there Asian girl?

Thanks.

Back from this autumn 9-days FKK tour. I still wandered in the FKK fantasy world and sometimes did not realize I was in the reality world now. I call this as Post FKK-tour Stress Disorder (PFSD). LOL. Hopefully no one will be offended by my reports. Just for fun. If you feel them boring, stop reading them.

[B]Preface[/B]

Early of that week, I came to London in business trip. Friday morning, I left London office for Frankfurt. Arrived airport around noon. Picked up car and drove to Darmstatdt. I missed my lovely girls so much. Around 1:30 pm I finally got into Sharks. There were already more than 30 girls. However, I was surprised that I had no plan to take any of them. Maybe it was a good idea to eat something. When I entered the dinning area I sensed [B]a WG wearing black glasses (?) [/B]was looking at me with hostility. BS. Gave up lunch and go back to bar.

A girl approached me and introduced herself. She turned out to be Leonie, De, 27 yo, three months in Sharks. She might be beautiful but I was out of mind because I was eyeing another gorgeous German girl, the famous [B]Mandy[/B]. Leonie noticed I had no interest in her then left quickly. I passionately walked toward and hugged Mandy, however, she seemed not to recognize me. She just simple told me she was waiting for a customer. So embarrassing and dismaying, I sat on a sofa at the entrance, watching girls in and out from locker room. A very pretty and cute brunette girl, about 20 yo, 165 cm, wearing street clothes walking past me into women's locker room. Her sweet smile reminds me of an intern girl once I crushed on when I worked in Silicon Valley 20 years ago. She disappeared quickly before I got chance to say Hi to her. Who is she, my dreaming girl? Is she the "Melissa", the beauty whom Jnpr30 admired?

[B]Friday, the first day at Sharks.[/B]

I was waiting for the girl since first glimpse. I didn't know her name at that time. I just simple nicknamed her "my dreaming girl". But she seems disappeared forever. After one hour past, I decided to move on. Met several girls, new or known, under the aquarium. Betty made a weird buzz and Alexia gave an air-kiss to welcome me. I invited Betty but she insisted threesome with a new girl in addition. Negotiation failed. I saw Roxy, my Sharks girlfriend, was busy with a customer. Rebecca the blonde called me "Pinocchio" again.

Meanwhile, [B]Leonie[/B] approached me again and again when I was aimlessly wandering. I asked her price terms. One hour is minimum. She saw hesitation from my face and quickly added that I could get a premium service. Thinking of the scarcity of German girls and likelihood that she might be another "Sandra", we headed to my favorite room upstairs even if she is not the type of girl I prefer. I credited her covered blow job which did make me cum. But general speaking, that was not "premium" service. She even wanted to surcharge some of my preferred sex positions and considered them as "Fe-tish". She did get quite positive reviews from some other mongers. However, comparing with her German colleagues such Sandra or Mandy, she still has some space to improve.

I saw [B] Dina[/B] sitting alone where she always sat. We haven't seen each other for a while. She is still quite attractive to me. She seemed to remember whom I am. After greeting, I suddenly recalled her birthday was coming. I told her I would bring be-day gift for her next day, but she told me today would be her last day in Sharks, and I should give her gift today. When I was thinking of how much extra money to give her as gift to please her, she suddenly professionally and calmly reminded that she would not accept session less than 100 Euro. I felt like I was poured a glass of icy water. Oh come, Dina, did I ever give you any session less than 100 euro? Almost all sessions I gave her were longer than 2 hours. Thinking it might not be right time to be with her, I honestly told her I just came back from a room and would look for her later. She said OK.

[B]Jennifer[/B] sat the spot by waterfall. I recalled my promise to her. Since there was no much choice, so we went to upstairs. We are friend, always. She did try to provide good service and could make me feel very relaxed. However it was very difficult to get another climax in such short time. Sweatily, I gave up after 30 minutes piston movement exercise. We lay together and chatted for 20 min. It was dinner time when we left room.

After dinner, I was caught by a snow white blonde beauty, [B]Amalia[/B]. She just came back in couple weeks. Last year, we had many rooms together. At that time I always called her "my little cutie". I never deny that she always looks good and is very kind to me even if I gave her less than before. Young beauty barely 20 yo with baby-like skin. Only drawback is she has too much makeup on her face, which I criticized her last time. In the room I kissed her whole body and tickled her sometimes. This time she complained my hard dick with rough condom made her pussy very uncomfortable. After change several sex positions, I had to use her condom. At the moment, my dick began to switch from Hard-ware to Soft-ware. Amalia did blowjob earnestly to try to wake it up but failed. I tried to comfort her by saying it is my own fault. I did promise her to give her another chance in other days but never got opportunity.

At 8 pm, I finally caught [B]Roxy[/B], my lovely FKK girlfriend. Roxy might not be the most beautiful one (still in top 20), but she must be the most friendly girl with most attractive personality. Kissing and Licking each other I enjoyed every minute with her in the room. I kept changing position but she never complained. She did try to make me happy and fulfill my little fantasy. I thought it would be unlikely for me to finish again that night, but she made it. I got high point within her 35 min service. Then I started to massage her and tickle her to make her laugh. So much fun! I remember her birthday is in January and promise to bring some special gift for her next time.

Around 9 pm, I approached [B]Dina[/B] again and told her I was ready for her. I also told her I could spend time with her as long as possible since today would be her last day at sharks. However, [B]our Queen[/B] used a very harsh and hoarse tone to warn me that she would never go with me again because she saw I took at least two girls to room before her. She thought I was lying to her. I tried to explain the situation and also pointed out that we actually did not set up appointment and she did allow me to find her later. She said she should have priority. And she though I did not respect and like her. I did have plan to keep her until club close if she likes (800 euros budget) but she said it was unnecessary because there were already three customers in the waiting list (This is the third times Dina rejected me abruptly in the past three years. No surprise. I wished I could see her again someday.

[B]Viorica[/B], my famous princess girl, appeared around 9:30 pm. I was very surprised she came so late. Or maybe she was in rooms with customers. Her peculiar hair dye (reddish metallic color) made her very eye-catching among girls. What she greeted me was not a passionate embrace, but pushing me away in a very weird way. No idea. Maybe I disclosed she who was my princess girl in my previous reports which made her feel embarrassed, or Viorica doesn't want me to have intimacy feeling on her. Anyway, although I had strong intention to take her later in the week, her cold attitude always destroyed my mood. In the following days when I saw she sat before the gambling machine hours by hours to waste her hardworking money, I felt very very sad. I don't know how to do.

At 11:30 PM, I had been in club for 10 hours with 4 rooms. After ordering last glass of water I decided it was time for retreat. Suddenly I saw a girl, with brilliant smiles, siting on the sofa where Dolly, Magda, or Miheala used to sit. Oooh! I could not believe it, seeking for her thousands of times, [B]My Dreaming girl[/B], finally coming from heaven to earth. I immediately sat by her side and held her hand in case she disappeared again. She has been in Sharks for three months, her name is, well, let me still call her "Dreaming Girl" at this moment. Struggling in my heart, I was not sure if I had enough energy to fuck this super luscious teenage beauty. If time goes back to 20 years ago, I could restlessly fuck her 10 times a day. But now I was really tired. My dreaming girl seems to understand my situation. After giving her a promise, I embraced and kissed her again, then left.

[B]Saturday, Sharks[/B]

I entered club at noon. My Dreaming girl yesterday told me she would come early too. After two hours waiting, she was still in no-show. My FKK girlfriend [B]Roxy[/B] was sitting on her sofa for a while. I knew she was watching me. Roxy is the girl I would never reject. So we went to upstairs around 3 PM. It was hard for me to concentrate because I always thought of my dreaming girl. Roxy beautiful face and excellent service proved futile. She then asked me if I really wanted to have sex with her today. I felt guilty. She sensed something and asked if I was thinking of Dina or Viorica. I laughed and told her neither. I know I would never tell her about my Dreaming girl. We chatted 40 minutes in room.

My Dreaming girl was still disappeared. No idea whether she came today. Quite a few girls approached me, including Ivana, Mila (Mila Kunis alike), Julia, Brenda, Elizabeth, Anastatsia, Vanessa, Natalia, Alexia, Leonie, Sally, Andrea, Catalina, Selina, etc. Too many choices. I told myself to slow down. After all today's main purpose was to catch my Dreaming girl.

Around 5 PM, A girl waved hand towards me. I became ecstatic immediately when I saw her. Oh my god, I could not believe I could see her again. [B]Inka[/B], 24 yo gorgeous college student, she looks more beautiful and slim than last time we saw each other. Headed to a room without hesitation. Inka today had magic to make me feel very relaxed. Actually her face and body attracted me very much. Relative small tits (A or Bee cup) is my favorite type. No doubt she also provided wonderful service. She is a nice and caring girl. I reached climax in 30 minutes. Then we spent the rest of time chatting, all kinds of random things. Inka somewhat still had resentment about what happened in the last day of my March trip. She felt sad that instead of fulfilling my promise to her that day, I actually spent 6 hours with Viorica in room and completely ignored her. I apologized, but never disclose my current relationship with Viorica.

[B]My Dreaming girl [/B]was still missing. I was thinking of club hopping. It was about 7 Pm and not too late to Oase. When I changed my clothes and ready to go, I saw my Dreaming girl just checking-in. She looked so damned hot to me. I had to quickly grab a new robe and rushed back into hall to wait for her. She was in dinning area and had a meal with a bunch of girls. I walked back and forth from bar to kitchen in order to get her attention. An unknown girl stopped me and yada yada. My Dreaming Girl was then out of my sight quickly. When I spotted her again, she became a prey of a male predator. Shame! They were still there after 10 minutes talks. A hope rose, maybe the guy was not interested in her. Once a blonde joined the group, I then realized the guy wanted to each two chicks. The threesome went to one of rooms next to SM room. I had no choice to wait.

After more than one hour, I saw my dreaming girl walking with Ivana to sell threesome. Surprising me, they went together. Several my competitors were negotiating with them. There seemed no deal at all. I exploited this opportunity to walk toward and hug her. My Dreaming girl smiled and said "I remember you". Oh my gd, she tortured my feeling whole day and just simply said remember me? It was OK, we went upstairs hand by hand. It was about 9:30 PM on Saturday. Wooh, at least 4-5 pairs in the line before us. I proposed to go to cabana, but she felt cold there. I prefer a room with window but after 10 min waiting we got a hot and humid room.

[B]My Dreaming girl[/B], somehow looks like the young Natalie Lust (at least a little bit (30% resemblance) . She is very young with perfect body, beautiful firm bee tits and baby-like skin, I can see the tiny blonde body hair covering her back and hips. So sexy. I couldn't imagine before that I had chance to sex with such heavenly body. She displayed high skills to make me happy. A lot of kissing and licking. Quite a few sex positions. Super GFE sex! Her BJ made my dick as hard as rock quickly. Then I started the regular piston exercise. Surprisingly, my Dreaming girl also complained the texture condom I used. Her pussy felt very uncomfortable and little painful because of the condom. Now I realized these kinds of condoms which supposed to add intensify sensation to women are not suitable to WGs. Keep working after changing to Sagami. However, the thing that most worried me happened again (and again). Sweating ruin my sexual feeling. On the other hand, in the past 24 hours, I had already popped 3 times. So my un-young body and humid environment prevented me from reaching apex even if I sexed with my Dreaming Girl with great passion. At 50 minutes, I knew there was no result and then stopped. Anyway, I still consider this is a wonderful session. I enjoyed it. We set up an appointment at 4 PM next day.

[B]Sunday, Sharks.[/B]

I entered into club around 3:30 PM. [B]My dreaming girl[/B] got there 4 PM. She flirtatiously held my neck and said she still was a virgin today. Me too. We headed my favorite room upstairs and started our passionate journey. With aid of 10-hour-sleep last night, I re-gain energy and confidence. Her GFE service became even better than yesterday. After changing several positions, I finally cum within half hour. The rest of time was for chatting and massaging. I felt extremely good when I touched and kissed her body. I promised to give her another one-hour session later today.

After dinner at 6 pm, I saw a familiar figure walking around in the backyard. I recognized her in just one second. [B]Cosmina[/B], the famous brand name girl in Sharks. We haven't seen each other for more than two years. She still looked very good and skinny. She still has perfect fair skin. Cosmina obviously couldn't remember whom I am. She introduced herself as nickname "Mina". I told her I knew she is the famous Cosmina since we went to room before. Cosmina seemed not to know there is another girl named "Mina". Actually both girls have some kind of look-alike. I had strong intention to take her but she told me she was waiting for a regular and she would be free at 9 pm. So we set up the appointment.

I saw [B]Roxy[/B] sitting on the sofa under aquarium. I knew I might not have time for her today. So I came to ask her to emancipate me from obligation. Ridiculously, I accidently called her "Viorica". Roxy said she would slam me if I do it again. Finally she generously let me go without penalty. Of course, that Sunday was her busy day.

[B]My Dreaming Girl[/B] flirting me caused great temptation. There was enough time to give her one-hour session before my appointment with Cosmina. After all I did promise my Dreaming girl before. All upstairs rooms had been occupied. The staff lady told us that we could use the VIP room if we like. There is a Jacuzzi and AC in the VIP room. Actually the condition is much better than regular room. I was very relaxed but not intended to get climax (I wanted to save energy for Cosmina). However, my teenage beauty's excellent BJ and real GEF sex made me cum again in 30 minutes. Marvelous! Unbelievable! My Dreaming Girl is the only beauty who makes me cum twice within a day in the past two years. She deserves everything I gave her.

Cosmina stayed in room more than 3 hours with her client. It was 11 PM when I saw her again. Cosmina understood we couldn't keep the appointment anymore. I was very tired and I was glad that I was off the hook. She told me she only works during weekend. Hopefully we could see each other again.

[B]Monday, Oase club, Anastatsia.[/B]

I was exhausted after 5 pops in 48 hours. Monday was not my vacation time, I still had to work. Although I planned to take a break of FKK, at 3 pm after I completed conference call, I couldn't help to go again. This time I drove to Oase. Arrived there at 3:55, I still got discount entrance rate at 50 euro. There were about 15 girls and 15 polar bears. Most clients were Asians. Even if I expected the lineup would be weak on Monday, I was shocked the club was so much empty. Only Emma, Ro 22 yo, and Marina, 22 yo were fuckable to me.

At 6 PM, I decided to leave. I stood right out of man's lounge and saw a slim beauty with fair skin walking up the stairs to garden. We looked at each other for a few seconds. She somehow looks like young Riley Raid at first glimpse, but is much more beautiful. Tall and slim, eyes covered with mascara, A or Bee cup tits. A touch of sadness from her beautiful blue eyes made me feel I should do something for her (impulse of being white knight again, LOL). Of course she is attractive girl. We went inside the dinning area and started to talk. She is [B]Anastasia[/B], 20 yo, a college student from St Peterburg of Russia. She has been in Oase for 4 months, and today was her first day coming back from leave. I didn't discuss any price term but she initiatively offered 100 euro 1 hour premium service which including GEF, BBBJ, kisses and sex positions what I prefer. How could I refuse this blue and beautiful young lady? Although there is no window for most of Oase rooms, Anastasia still tried to find a cool room for me. She cares about customers' requests. Anastasia is friendly and honest girl. Never upsell. After 15 minutes foreplay she started very slow and gentle BBBJ with ball licking. Oh, so comfortable, so relaxed. I believed it should be one of best BBBJ I got, as good as my Dreaming girl provided. At First, Anastasia didn't take off her shoes. While in 69 position her shoe heel almost hit my forehead. After the incidence, she took off her shoe and socks as I requested. To be honest, her feet were one of beautiful girl feet I ever saw before. She used to dance ballet for 10 years. No wonder she has such beautiful long legs and delicate feet. I saw a surgical scar on her right foot. She told me she broke her leg in ballet dance. Oh, poor and lovely girl! I couldn't help but to kiss her feet. She felt embarrassed but she said she liked it. I felt the true GFE sex and reached the exciting apex at 40 minutes. Beautiful girl and wonderful experience! She is my dreaming girl in Oase.

[B](To be continued).[/B]

[QUOTE=Peter3146;2241608]I will visit Sharks next week.

Are there Asian girl?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]There is one occasional Asian girl at Sharks called Marlin that tends to work the mid week and not weekends.

Apart from that it is a pretty sparse arrangement unless you want a massage since then there is at least two Thai ladies around doing massage with no happy endings I am afraid.

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2241615]Cosmina ...... She told me she only works during weekend. Hopefully we could see each other again.[/QUOTE]Mina/Cosmina works on Wednesdays too. Saw her on September 28th and October 24th.

[QUOTE=Canary;2241340]Session two was with Maria, claimed to be Moldavian? Maria is brunette with large tits (natural I think from memory), large, well larger everywhere really, just the totally opposite look to Anastasia. She had approached me before when I politely declined but as I said before it was a fairly quite Friday night so ladies were battling for custom. On her second approach I was "resting" but she continued to "play with me" under my robe at the bar for nearly half an hour.

I decided to go with her because she ticked both my main boxes; if a girl takes a while talking to you before talking business and I get "the vibe" with her during the interview cutting through the usual bullshit rarely do I then have a poor time.

With Maria I hit the jackpot. I'm quite pacific with what I like & feeling particularly lazy this evening Maria had her work cut out but my God did she put the effort in!! She may be a larger build to some of the ladies but she didn't stop or complain throughout resulting in several booking extensions by myself, we went through two bottles of oil!! Only one brief offer of upsell..[/QUOTE]Oooh Maria, I so wanted to session with her when I was there, she was a sweetheart. One of the other girls, Daniella perhaps (told me Maria was a lot of fun. Glad to hear it was a good session, I'll look for her next time.

Great report UH. I don't get why Dina would be offended. Were you going to pay her 100 E in loose change or something? What does it matter? This is a rhetorical question. So there is another Anastasia than the young Ro with the cute dimples and medical wipes that likes it up the ass? Also, are you going to reveal the name of your dreaming girl? Why not wake her up and have sex with her LOL. This report is a cliff hanger. Waiting with baited breath to find out who the narcoleptic WG is. I wonder if it is my dream girl?

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2241615]Back from this autumn 9-days FKK tour. I still wandered in the FKK fantasy world and sometimes did not realize I was in the reality world now. I call this as Post FKK-tour Stress Disorder (PFSD). LOL. Hopefully no one will be offended by my reports. Just for fun. If you feel them boring, stop reading them.

[B]Preface[/B]

[B]My Dreaming Girl[/B] flirting me caused great temptation. There was enough time to give her one-hour session before my appointment with Cosmina. After all I did promise my Dreaming girl before.

[B](To be continued).[/B][/QUOTE]

Spent a relaxing day at Sharks, however with only 1 session, mostly by choice. Stayed too long, but again too long is relative to how much you like the atmosphere at the club.

Main aim today was to meet up with 3 other ISG members at around 1 pm. Sure enough, Kosherkowboy, Mac75 and DerAuslaender (posted with their consent) were there and I got a chance to enjoy the club as a group, which I would argue is much better than solo. Great set of people that made my evening.

All 3 had a good time from what I could see. They can post the details of insatiable Columbianas and threesomes with young blonde girls with CIMs.

It was my first Sunday at Sharks and I would highly recommend it: girl / guy ratio of 2/1 by 6 pm, girls fine throughout. By 12/1 am the ratio worsened considerably and the girls still there were not worth it IMO.

Sunday is very much a Stammgäste day and fairly calm. Lots of girls present, good luck sorting through them. Definitely a recommended day for a Sharks visit, least of all thanks to the reduced entry of 50 e.

Upselling was. There. I am, as all 3 can personally attest to, one of those diehards when it comes to my 3 conditions and wouldn't budge, but again I just didn't feel like polling around, so it was just another average night girl-wise for me. Don't need 1 hour rooms just to get a few extras that should be there to start off with. If sharks is branching off in terms of its average pricing and service then so be it, there are plenty of better and smaller options to get what you want. But on the other hand, maybe a little break from the clubs might be a good idea for me.

My one session was with Donatella, 28 yo blonde Romanian woman who provided a proper service. Kept to what was agreed. Nothing more nothing less. Pulled her closer during the BJ to squeeze while pumping again her mouth to make the erection harder. Missionary finish. Nothing to write home about.

Later when ready for a second or nudging towards it: 4 refusals to my offers, though this was later in the night. I do get the feeling that the all-inclusive (a good BJ and kissing) 50 e sessions are becoming more difficult to get at Sharks. But that was my experience, at least amongst the girls I was interested in. Eventually I gave up and couldn't be bothered, bolstered by the girls seeming tired or uninterested and those approaching not being my type.

In short: good time, great company, Sharks is fine and still enjoyable (particularly for 100 euro 1 hour sessions guys) Oase however making good competition.

Damage: 50 entry + 50 for the session.

HS,

Thanks for compliment.

You know Dina was queen of Sharks. She only cared about her own feelings instead of money.

The Anastasia I mentioned is the Oase's Russian Anastasia, not the Sharks' Anastasia. Sorry to confuse you.

I will disclose the name of my dreaming girl in my second half parts report. If Someone has already figured out who she is, please keep secret.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2241775]Great report UH. I don't get why Dina would be offended. Were you going to pay her 100 E in loose change or something? What does it matter? This is a rhetorical question. So there is another Anastasia than the young Ro with the cute dimples and medical wipes that likes it up the ass? Also, are you going to reveal the name of your dreaming girl? Why not wake her up and have sex with her LOL. This report is a cliff hanger. Waiting with baited breath to find out who the narcoleptic WG is. I wonder if it is my dream girl?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2241847]You know Dina was queen of Sharks. She only cared about her own feelings instead of money.[/QUOTE]She never had the format of a queen. A spoiled princess, maybe!

[QUOTE=LaBambaBoy;2241773]Oooh Maria, I so wanted to session with her when I was there, she was a sweetheart. One of the other girls, Daniella perhaps (told me Maria was a lot of fun. Glad to hear it was a good session, I'll look for her next time.[/QUOTE]I suppose some would say she isn't the prettiest of girls at Sharks and tbh I couldn't disagree however for me beauty is also within and finding a genuine girl in this sort of environment is fairly rare.

I wouldn't hesitate to recommend her.

I heard and read so many stories about FKK Sharks.

And this weedend finnaly going to visit it by my own.

Any brothers out there want to meet up there this weekend?

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2241847]HS,

Thanks for compliment.

You know Dina was queen of Sharks. She only cared about her own feelings instead of money.
.[/QUOTE]UO. I met Dina last visit at about 4 am and she refused a 50 E date with me but she was quite cordial and maybe special. I remember that Simon had found her earlier and had a great session with her and I reminded her of this but she explained that in so many words that I would not get a GFE date for 50 E (like so many others had told me that night). That is when I grabbed to pole dancing Joanna and had one of my best sessions ever and it was for 50 E /30 min.

It never ceases to amaze me of the games these girls play. Why deny themselves 100 E over something silly like "why wasn't I your first choice?" It is true that sometimes the wrong seemingly harmless comment can come out of your mouth and rub a girl the wrong way and she won't wee you.

I still wait with bated breath for the reveal of the dream girl.

So yeah guys some of you probably have seen my messages not long ago about going to Frankfurt. Well the time is here! I'm in Frankfurt now and omw to Mainhattan. I've been reading about all the clubs and RLDS. So much that I almost feel like I know a lot of you guys xD.

Lanthanos, kosher cowboy among others. Thanks for the help everyone and DAMN do I find your reports amazing to read.

Now here's the gameplan!

Day 1: I saw there was a Sharks video showing the inside and just from the place itself I got a boner (weird right). But its a bit too far for me to go to sharks now I feel. I will have to go to Mainhattan first. So no sharks or RLD today.

Day 2: I'm thinking of starting the day warming up in the RLD (not cumming during the session though) with 1 girl not sure which house but it will be during the day. Think Rotes Haus was the best during the day from what the reports said. After that I go to Sharks, will see how long I stay there but I plan at least 2 sessions there maybe more will have to see.

Day 3+: here's the decision making day. Did I like Sharks more or Mainhattan more? (Did I like sharks enough to go so far?) I will go to the one I enjoyed the most. Then there will be a few days of that club. Not sure if I will mix, maybe if I liked both experiences.

A small quick question though. Do you guys think any of the clubs will host any Halloween event? I'm really into girls in costumes, specially the Halloween costumes. I will find out if Mainhattan has any soon though.

Thanks again guys! Ill report when I can.

[QUOTE=Canary;2242017]I suppose some would say she isn't the prettiest of girls at Sharks and tbh I couldn't disagree however for me beauty is also within and finding a genuine girl in this sort of environment is fairly rare.

I wouldn't hesitate to recommend her.[/QUOTE]Yes, she does not fit the optics profile most gentlemen are looking for at first, but her general good nature is pretty wonderful.

[QUOTE=Momosa;2242037]So yeah guys some of you probably have seen my messages not long ago about going to Frankfurt. Well the time is here! I'm in Frankfurt now and omw to Mainhattan. I've been reading about all the clubs and RLDS. So much that I almost feel like I know a lot of you guys xD.

Lanthanos, kosher cowboy among others. Thanks for the help everyone and DAMN do I find your reports amazing to read.

Now here's the gameplan!

Day 1: I saw there was a Sharks video showing the inside and just from the place itself I got a boner (weird right). But its a bit too far for me to go to sharks now I feel. I will have to go to Mainhattan first. So no sharks or RLD today.

Day 2: I'm thinking of starting the day warming up in the RLD (not cumming during the session though) with 1 girl not sure which house but it will be during the day. Think Rotes Haus was the best during the day from what the reports said. After that I go to Sharks, will see how long I stay there but I plan at least 2 sessions there maybe more will have to see.

Day 3+: here's the decision making day. Did I like Sharks more or Mainhattan more? (Did I like sharks enough to go so far?) I will go to the one I enjoyed the most. Then there will be a few days of that club. Not sure if I will mix, maybe if I liked both experiences..[/QUOTE]Not a good idea to go to the RLD, ii is just a waste of time and money, packed with guys who are not eating pork, ugly girls poor service nothing to compare with FKK, also don t forget that Manhattan is a tourist club with a LU far smaller than Shark.

Link to Part I.

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[B]Recollection of the past, autumn 2018 FKK tour, Part II[/B]

For fun. Don't take it seriously.

[B]Tuesday, Sharks. [/B]

Early morning I drove to France for a business conference. I had no plan to visit any FKK clubs for weak line up of lingerie day. Around 4 pm my dream girl texted me she would be in Sharks today. After 4 consecutive days of fighting in FKK battle fields, it became a very challenging thing for me to get a climax. Thinking of the fact that it would be also very fun to exploit her as sex toy, I decide drive 200 km to see her instead of attending a regular business reception. It was almost 8 PM when I entered the parking lot.

There were about 60 WGs, and fewer guests. Most girls bored sat there and lost motivation to do sales. My dream girl was not there. I whatsapped her and noticed her status of "last seen at 5 PM". When I went to bar got get a drink, I noticed the smiling [B]Corina[/B] the Hungarian beauty just sitting right next to me. She looked more like an elegant and classic lady instead of a WG. Although still feeling a bit resentful to her from our last session, I was ready to humble myself to negotiate trade with her.

At the moment, a new GND came to bar for drink, standing left side of me. I was distracted immediately because of her young pretty face. [B]Cassandra[/B], 19 yo from Bucharest. She is about 168 cm, slim to average, bee cup tits, no tattoo at all. Except her unattractive thick lips could be the possible drawback, general speaking, she is a pretty. She somehow looks like the famous Chinese actress [B]Zhang ZiYi[/B]. She told me today was her [B] first day, [/B] (she never works in any FKK club before), and she had none customer so far. The fact agitated me immediately. [B]She was a real FKK virgin at that moment! [/B] Heading to upstairs, I saw my dream girl siting where she usually sits. I am sure she saw me as well. I ran away like a thief with Cassandra.

In the room I met an insurmountable obstacle. [B]Cassandra[/B] can hardly speak English. Except a few words such as 'sex', 'kiss', 'pussy', 'condom', 'blow job', 'doggy', she barely understood other words which I used to describe my requests. No possible GFE sex. Since I was her first client, she was extremely shy and also lacked experience to serve customer. She did work very hard to do BBBJ and lick eggs. Pussy sex was tough for she always held her legs tightly. I wanted to cut down to 30 min, however communication was difficult. I had no way but to keep 1 hour-session. Then I asked her to keep doing BBBJ for 20 min until I felt bored. I know it is not her fault. I assumed every Romania WG would do same when she first time severs a customer. We left room at 45 minutes without finish.

[B]My dream girl[/B] sat there watching us went down stairs. I felt very guilty. When I approached her, she pissed me just like a spoiled girlfriend. I promised to give her more time today. After 10 minutes thoroughly cleaning my body, we went to my favorite room upstairs. It was 10 PM.

My Dream girl gave me the best ever GFE sex. I couldn't believe how relaxed I felt. As usual I reached the high point in just 25 minutes with her excellent service and my fantasies. Then I felt exhausted but very satisfied.

Little by little I fell asleep even if we still chatted. I embraced my dream girl tightly with sometime opening my eye looking at pictures she showed me. I seemed to ask her goal. She said she wanted to buy a flat in her hometown. And I heard something about 75 K euro for a flat in Constanta. Oh, it is dirt cheap. It is Less than 1/10 of the price for similar apartment in cities, Shanghai, Hongkong, London, NYC, which I used to live. Who else mention similar goal to me before? [B]Nicoletta[/B] the Hungarian girl? Nicoletta two years ago told me after she earns enough money to buy a flat in Budapest she would quit. Why I remember this? Nicoletta quitted? I was in a dream, buying an apartment for my dream girl? Who is my dream girl, Nicoletta or the girl currently in my arms? My head was in the Clouds.

Then I suddenly woke up when my dream girl asked if I wanted to stay longer. I looked at watch. One hour already went past.

I asked my dream girl if I said something stupidity? Not at all. I myself recalled the dream to buy a flat for my dream girl. I never tell her. [B]No one[/B] asked me to buy flat. No one would believe I would buy flat for WG. Only myself subconsciously thought if I really love her, I would like to pay the price to ask her to quit the job. Just Kidding!

We left room 10 minutes before 1. 5 hour as I started to sneeze. I should give her longer session but migraine prevented me from enjoying anything now. Sitting at dinning hall, I took pain medication and forced myself to eat some warm food. [B]Amalia[/B], the snow white beauty, held a food tray and came to sit on opposite side of table. She looked at me and asked if I felt uncomfortable. Amalia always looked very pretty and attractive to me. But I have no energy to take her to room today. She might think I tortured myself to fuck too many girls in these days.

[B]Wednesday, Sharks[/B]

When I woke up it is almost 2 PM on Wednesday. I slept more than 12 hours and fully recovered. After replying several work related emails, I was free that day. I couldn't help but want to go to club to kill time. Arrived Sharks at 4 PM.

At the spot where famous Dina usual sat, a strikingly beautiful girl sat there directly opposite to me. Her unparalleled beauty and elegance perfectly match the name of the most beautiful woman in Greek mythology. Even if [B]Helen of Troy[/B] reincarnated would be same beautiful like this. Yes, the girl is [B]Helen[/B], the most beautiful girl of Sharks.

Purposely wearing black strappy lace teddy and full length stocking, [B]Helen[/B] looked like a dominating queen who is ready to take the sadistic role in SM. We looked at each other for a few seconds. Helen blinked her left eye and signaled me to go there. I knew she recognized me. After greeting each other, Helen told me that I seemed to be a very familiar friend of her but she could not recall the details of we were together. I said no problem let us re-start. We then headed to room without negotiating any rate and time.

[B]Helen[/B] told me she just came back from vacation leave. I should be gentle and cautious to deal with her vagina which had not been touched for two weeks. I thought I was so lucky to get another "virgin". Absolutely I would be careful.

After ten minutes foreplay, I started DATY per her request. However neither of us enjoyed it. She thought I was not concentrated and not skillful (I think YamaYama is a professional for that). But to me, I was very worried the metal clips on her long stockings would bounce to my eyes. Helen refused to be completely naked. I mentioned the bothersome clips. She then removed them but still refused to take off the stockings. I asked why. She said quite a few customers wanted to kiss her feet and she felt that was too intimate. Maybe Helen would like to reserve her feet for her boyfriend.

10 minutes DATY on her completely soften my dick. [B]Helen[/B] then started BBBJ. Her excellent 5 min BJ and ball licking did wake my dick up. When she thought it was hard enough for sex, we started face-to-face cowgirl position. She could sometime swing. Amazing! However she started to feel tired after 10 minutes' work. We then changed to missionary or butterfly positions. I worked very hard and moved in and out hundreds or a thousand times. Her stockings were issues all the time. Sweaty like running a marathon. Finally, Helen lost patience. She said you are a tough customer and why you couldn't cum. No idea. We stopped and left room 5 min before 1 hour.

Definitely her dominatrix strap and black full stockings caused issue to prevent me to finish. I still want to sex with this strikingly beautiful girl. So I suggested her to take off her stockings in our next session. I promised to book her 2-3 hours next time. She then replied "maybe". We made an appointment at 3 PM the coming Friday.

It was almost 6 PM. My dream girl was still no-show. That Wednesday was busy day for Inka and Roxy. I rejected Sally several times and she said angrily "is 100 euros too much for you". Actually I would like to go with Sally, but she could hardly speak English, which means impossible GFE sex. Sorry for Sally.

At 7 PM, I saw [B]Corina[/B] again. She was as pretty as yesterday. She looked like the young and petite Demi Moore. I was deeply attracted by this 22 year old young Hungarian hot chick with beautiful green eyes. In the room, after 10 minutes BBBJ, as I wanted to save energy so we started cowgirl. She seemed bitching a little after a few minutes. I changed to missionary then butterfly. She didn't like I constantly touched her feet, then we started doggie. Changed position again and again. She seemed not to like I fucked her vagina so long (20 min? And I could see her somewhat impatience. At 40 min she told me there were 7 min left. I tolerated her this time because I didn't want to continue either. We wrapped and left in 5 min. I paid her 100 euro without tipping her. She seemed unhappy. She might think that I was stingy. In the following days, she never took the initiative to approach me.

There were a lot of new faces but I didn't have mood to fuck anymore. I went up whirlpool area to have a nap. Around 11 PM, I went kitchen to have some leftover. I decided to leave soon.

[B]My dream girl[/B] appeared. She came towards me, which immediately uplifted me. So happy so excited. Didn't I just see her yesterday? We were lucky to get my favorite room. After take a brief shower inside room, we started to roll on bed. Sagami worked perfectly. I got full relaxation and finished in 35 minutes. My dream girl gave me the best feeling I could expect. It seems I didn't sex with a WG but a real girlfriend. I never think of time or money. At that moment, the only think I know is that I was enjoying my life with my lovely dream girl.

My dream girl made my day special. She would be off Thursday.

[B] (to be continued) [/B]

I was there around 7 pm, the place was already full, LU was around 40 girls.

After paying the entry I got my key bracelet and head to shower.

My plan was 3 session at least one 60 min. The club is amazing, so much place, the vibe was high and guys and girls continue to come from the entry way. They just opened the buffet, so good food with different choices.

Headed to the bar and get my beer to drink with dinner. On the bar I approached by Nora (half Macedonian / Turkish) a bit short and a little more weight. I told her I just came and I want to eat dinner first, she asked: later? I said maybe.

Finished my dinner and out to the main bar area.

Most girls was sitting in groups, so I tried to remember what I read in here about every group by where they sitting, but was helpless.

30 min gone and I haven't been approached by any girl. There was many choices, but I like to be approached to avoid the embarrassment if I didn't got the attention from the girl (I saw many girls they just said no to many guys) .

Later Nora approached me again and I told her I want to relax and enjoy my beer after dinner.

I took my beer and start to walk around the place, throwing smiles to girls and change the eye contact with others, then get back to the bar.

Suddenly approached me Mira (RO) , 23 years old, amazing body and not long black hair, the most beautiful lips I saw in my life, rose colored lips naturally. A small silicon breast but looks natural, so good English. Amazing and nice person to enjoy the talk with, we start with normal talk, where I come from, which ethnicity I'm etc. She didn't mention the service or the room talk, she noticed that I enjoyed talking and touching her soft skin while I drink my beer so she said: lets go sit on the couch. I get surprised, I was thinking she want to go to room. We headed to the couch and continue our talking, I start asking her about her life, she said she is in the 3rd year university studying authority (she look serious) . After 15 min I asked here which service she offers, and as all the girls she answered "any thing you like" . She said the normal rate is 50/30 CBJ / sex and anything else is extra.

My plan for my 1st session was 30 min but after sitting with this Angel (Mira) its no way 30 min will be enough to enjoy her body, so I decided in my mind it will be 100/60 but how I can get all what I like and avoids the upselling so I tried this:

When she mentioned that extra service cost more I said to here: forget about CIM, CIB, Anal and all the kinky stuff. She said: Ok. I told her what I like (DAYY, DFK, BBBJ) and I will pay 100/60 , she didn't hesitate and we head to the room.

She gives me the most amazing GFE I ever felt, amazing kisser, I couldn't have enough from her sweet lips, then I start kissing all her body while my fingers tops moving between her thighs, she start to breath a bit heavy and enjoy the feeling. Then I go down on her, wow which pussy lips she have, also rose colored, I enjoyed every piece of it. I laid back and she start moving here lips all over my body and end sucking my haug. OMG, what a wonderful sensation, I was lucky because I had few beers and tequila so I didn't cum fast.

She put the Condom on, and lay back, I start slowly, enjoying kissing her nick and licking her small nipples, then I start to accelerate my moving and I felt that she hold me hard and start moving under me to make my haug go inside everywhere in her pussy, and as soon I moved faster, she hold me tighter until I felt her shaking and I think she came (I don't think she was faking that). Then she start to wonder why I didn't cum, I told her That I felt that you enjoying that so I gave you what you want and I also mentioned the beer and tequila. She told that I'm different than other guys, I asked what she mean, she said most guys want to just cum and enjoy, giving a dam about what the girl feel, she said she felt that I holding my self to cum to make her enjoy and few guys know how to do that.

She reacted normally, no anger or hurry, she asked if I want to smoke, I said yes but I got to go to toilet, I back and we start smoking and talking, she told me she have a good voice and she opened here phone on YT (John Legend. All of me) and she start singing, she have a quite nice voice, after that she played a song for Tina Turner, she said she like this kind of music.

I looked at my watch and I have around 15 min left, so I point her to my haug and she start sucking it by moving with the music tone. Then I take her doggy and she enjoyed it a lot. 10 min and I cum, I laid on her back and kissing her nick while I thank her for a wonderful time. 100 +10/60.

After my session with Mira, get shower, head to the buffet and ate something, then grab my beer and sat on a couch beside the pole. Start checking the girls but all was busy because while I'm with Mira the crowd get double. Then I decided to go to sauna, head there and sat 10 min, get shower after that, back where I been sitting, Nora approached me again, she start touching and playing my haug over the bathrobe, got me a bit hard, she start the room stuff and upselling her service, I said OK for 50/30 CBJ / DAYY / DFK / sex, we head to room, she is nice not so much beautiful because of the allergy on her face which she covered with makeup, we start talking and touching, got down on her while she jerks my haug, she put a condom and start sucking, it was OK, she tried her best, did with her all positions but I couldn't finish, after I gave up, she start to freak out, I told her its my problem not yours, she was worried that I will complain on the desk because of that, I kissed her and told her don't worry I'll not. We got out from room and paid her 50 then head to shower.

I had a train back at 4:30 from the main station and it was around 1:30 when I finish with Nora, so I wanted to recover and get my last 30 min session which I planned to be unforgettable.

I forgot that the time will change to winter time this day so I have now plenty of time, grabs a beer and sat on couch but this time between the bar and aquarium, get approached by different girls whom I didn't see them attractive (so much makeup / tattoos / skinny).

And finally get approached by Maddy (RO) 21 , amazing body, long black hair, very beautiful face and soul her eyes so beautiful and she have amazing smile, she start the usual conversation. I couldn't hold my self touching her body which she accepted normally, she start kissing me on my nick, her lips is amazing which get me hard, so I changed my mind and I decided 60 min.

I used the same technique (no kinky stuff) so I got the 100/60 DAYY / DFK / BBBJ / GFE, we head to a room but it was just closing with curtain, the walls and the roof made of mirrors (WOW) , I think they made many rooms like that new.

I start kissing her every where, massage her foots and going with my finger tips all over her amazing body, French kissing was so deep and passion, go down on her was my endless wish which make me dive in every corner in her rose colored tight small pussy, she start moaning and deep breathing, I realized that I got to sensitive places, so I kept going on and she squeeze my head between her things and when she was closed to cum she pushed me away and start sucking my haug so deep, which gave me a beautiful sensation I'll never forget.

We tried all positions and it was amazing so whatever, looking at her face while have sex is the most sensational feeling I had all the time. After 40 min I figured out I will not finish so I preferred to set with her talking and kissing and she was so understanding. Gave her 100+ 20/60.

Shower, home.

[QUOTE=TheWhatsuppGuy;2242528].[/QUOTE]Great reporting. Looks like you you had a great first visit and nicely popped your Sharks cherry.

Belated reports. Arrived after a long journey at 12 Noon. Checked into the hotel, had quick shower and rushed to Sharks, arriving there at 2 PM. Ordered a beer and started the survey. Line up was not bad considering it was still early afternoon. I would reckon there were about 30 girls.

Yet I could not select any one for the next two hours. Then, chose Maya, Romanian, 23 . Nice boobs. Sold a dream for me for E 100 promising sky, saying she is not a E 50 girl and I certainly would not be happy with just suck and fuck. However, it did not turn out that way, She was girl friendly in a limited sense and avoided taking pounding. Knows the art of whiling away time. Though I had DFK, BBJ and sex in multiple positions, I was not satisfied with her and did not cum.

The next one I chose to go with was Alia (or Alisa?) again from Romania. Same upselling. Made it plain to me that for E 50 I would only get the usual and there is no kissing or BBJ. Of course she was persuasive while telling me and eventually I agreed for E 100 . Mechanical BBJ and sex and kissing. Over all not a good experience.

Gave a gap of 2 hours. Had several beers and then chose to go with Adriana from Hungary. Went with her after repeated approaches. E 50 for BBJ and fuck. Good sucking skills. Not my type of girl, however.

I felt disappointed with my experience so far this evening. Was about to return to hotel as it was already 11 PM.

I was then approached by Niki, Bulgarian, 23 , while relaxing. Appeared nice girl and she was willing to do everything. I offered to pay E 50 and she agreed. Very good kissing and BBJ and sex in multiple positions. Highly recommend her.

Left at 11.50 PM satisfied.

Hi UncleOx,

It is very fun to read your fabulous reports. Congrats! Look forward to your following reports.

I was in Sharks on Oct 13-14. It seems that we overlapped some period. Maybe I saw your dream girl. LOL.

Anyway, great job!

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2242325]Link to Part I.

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[B]Recollection of the past, autumn 2018 FKK tour, Part II[/B]

For fun. Don't take it seriously.

[B]Tuesday, Sharks. [/B]

Early morning I drove to France for a business conference. I had no plan to visit any FKK clubs for weak line up of lingerie day. Around 4 pm my dream girl texted me she would be in Sharks today. After 4 consecutive days of fighting in FKK battle fields, it became a very challenging thing for me to get a climax. Thinking of the fact that it would be also very fun to exploit her as sex toy, I decide drive 200 km to see her instead of attending a regular business reception. It was almost 8 PM when I entered the parking lot.

[B] (to be continued) [/B][/QUOTE]

Hello guys!

So lets start with giving you my other 2 reports I have: First one I was in Mainhattan [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3172-FKK-Mainhattan-Frankfurt&p=2242441&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2242441 And the other one was of the RLD: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?678-Frankfurt&p=2242843&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2242843.

I arrived at around 4-5 PM. I forgot to mention in other reports that I bought a week ticket for all of Frankfurt. 25 Euro for 1 week to go wherever I want whenever I want etc.

Took a taxi from Darmstrad to FKK sharks and payed 11 euro.

Arrived took my sweet time, took a shower etc. I went to eat cause I had not eaten all day. Went to the bistro like a little headless chicken not knowing exactly where to go. Saw that there was no food.

Went back to the locker room, looked on my phone what the deal was with the food and by the time I checked and noticed the food comes out at 5 it had just hit 5 pm.

So I went and ate, lots of girls came up to me. Bulgarians, Romanians etc etc. I saw a girl called Anestasia really nice blonde girl.

I would've loved to go with her but I decided not to go this early. I said "Maybe later". I eventually got to the food. Great damn food, was some turkey big meatball thing which was delicious I tell ya!

I'm terrible with names, I had to ask the girls I was with about 2 or 3 times before it stuck.

I spent like 1-2 h just exploring and relaxing in Sharks, damn is it wonderful over here in sharks. I met a lot of girls and I turned them all down, decided I wanted to go slow. I was nice with them and they were nice back but later some got a bit frustrated.

I had a massage from the guy there and we had a great chat, went for 45 minutes and it was great.

When I came out I was on the lookout for a girl. Didn't take long.

First girl: A blonde girl named L (won't give away her name cause I don't want her in trouble) from Czech, about 25 years old and had black stockings. She was really nice and very relaxed with me and asked me to a room.

I honestly didn't negotiate or ask anything from her I was like "50 euro 30 minutes? Lets go". This was after like 2-3 h of denying girls We go into a room and we talk abit more and go down to business.

To my surprise I get a BBBJ without even mentioning a thing about it. If you read FKK Mainhattens report you will know how much upselling was going on there.

Here I didn't even negotiate, she was happy to do it for 50 euro. Great start!

Unfortunately I can't cum again (I have a boner but can't cum), idk what is going on but oh well! I had a blast with her was fun and she was great.

Rating:

Face: 8/10.

Boobs: 9/10 (some silicon but looked damn natural to me think it was like the size).

Personality: 10/10 She was nice from start to finish a damn gem if I may say so myself.

Blowjob: 9/10 really nice blowjob I must say great tongue action.

Sex: 6/10 Honestly she didn't do much wrong, I just seem not to be able to relax enough to finish.

Price: 50 euro + 10 euro tip (she felt bad I didn't finish and I honestly appreciated it so much the way she tried.).

Would I return or recommend her? Damn right I would. Great girl!

I went to relax a bit, get a drink have some more food. Lots of girls came up to me and I said maybe later. I then found a German guy having some food. I asked if I could sit next to him while eating cause most other tables had some people on which were chatting. Got to know the guy and we honestly became great friends. We hung out for about 2 h or something chatting about everything and anything.

I recommended the girl I was with before but we couldn't find her. He recommended Beatrice and elena, but we couldn't find Beatrice and Elena wasn't too much to my liking.

I met another girl which was quite hot she was treating me a bit like a kid which I kinda liked, no idea what her name was but she was short and a bit plump but not fat at all really pretty eyes too and brunette.

I saw a lot of girls I liked but I decided I didn't want to go yet so I kept saying maybe later all the time. Here's the fun part, I then met a MILF German girl.

I talked a bit with her and then 2 other girls came and said something in dutch which I then asked my new friend about. He said that they said my name is "Maybe later". Which I found very funny.

After awhile my friend found a girl and I went looking too. Was this girl that looked a little like Arya stark in game of thrones but with long hair and a bit more mature. I would've gone with her but she was talking with her friend and was on the couch and I wasn't too sure. She looked a bit too mechanical. Will try her out tomorrow if I get the chance. (If you got any info about her please tell me she was sitting on a couche in the middle to the right of the bar.).

Last girl (s). The German girl came back with her other German friend and talked with me a bit and offered me a threesome for 50 euro each. I said sure and the girl I talked to before was like: "Oh yaaay I got you".

(Again I won't say who they are for now since I don't know if they can get in trouble for doing BBBJ and I like them).

We talked a lot in the room before doing the Threesome, we joked so much and honestly I had so much damn fun with those girls.

Like the other girl they both gave me a BBBJ without me asking and only for 50 euro each for 30 minutes which was more like 40.

They were both over 30 and I loved it. One had small tits, was short, and nice firm butt. The other girl had a bit more butt and a lot more boobs. She was tall and both had tattoos and were blondes. Great girls.

We had he blowjob going on and then I started fucking the tall girl and she told me, if I liked her pussy I would love her friends (the short one) because she has a "virgin pussy". I got curious and I did go with her. Oh my god she was right, her friend was quite tight. (tihi it rimed).

Although it was amazing and I was having a blast with them we ended up finishing in a handjob finish which was way better than the one I had in FKK Mainhattan.

Breakdown!:

Tall girl: Boobs: 8/10 great frickin boobs but abit too big for my taste.

Body & face & tattoos: 9-8-10/10 I have a huge tattoo fetish.

Personality: 10/10 from start to finish and after, I honestly liked her and before I was about to leave I had a chat with her and then hugged and left.

Blowjob: 7/10 great blowjob honestly above average.

Sex: 7/10 great butt and when she did reverse cowgirl seeing her tats and lovely but jumping up and down was a great sight. (my sex ratings are quite harsh generally so a 7 is really good).

Overall: 8,5/10 the short girl and I just clicked a bit more.

Short girl: Boobs: 7 a little too small for me.

Body & face & tattoos: 8-8-10/10 a bit on the petite side but quite nice still. Less tattoos but the one she had was great!

Personality: honestly 11/10 she was so damn nice with me I honestly hvnt had any other girl being this nice to me.

Blowjob was damn great 8/10.

Sex: 9/10 she rode me so well and her pussy was tight (she said I was her first for today too) it actually hurt a little to "penetrate" her at first honestly LOL.

Overall: 9/10 because of how much fun we had and the level of high quality service.

I can't believe people told me Germans are giving bad service and then the first Germans I meet gave me the best ever.

First time in FKK sharks. Here's the judgement ratings!

Food: 9/10 fucking great food!

Bartenders: 5/10 doesn't play a big role in the overall stats just want to say that some are a bit rude but there was 1 girl that was nice.

Massage and company: 8/10 great company with the German dude I found, honestly he even drove me to the train-station instead of me getting a cab: the great guy! The masseur was also very nice. (he was a guy and we talked for so long).

Lineup: 9/10 Must have been 50-60 girls today, not many guys and honestly lots of stunners like 8's and 9's even some 10 pointers. Was a bit intimidating.

Upselling: 10/10 honestly I didn't get a single upselling tonight so maybe I was lucky maybe I just played it right when I took sooo long to go into a room with any girl. IDK really.

Sessions: 8-9/10.

Overall 9/10 way better experiance than my Mainhattan visit, maybe its harsh to compare a Wednesday in sharks to a Mainhattan visit on Monday but I can't say I would rather go to mainhattan the rest of the trip instead of sharksOr the RLD. I'm staying at sharks I think.

Damage: 11 euro taxi from Darmstradt to Sharks. 50 euro enterance. 50 +10 euro 1 girl and 50 euro x2 in the threesome. Total damage: 221€.

I am truly sorry for such a long post I try to be accurate and give a good report and I do ramble at times. I hope you liked this report anyway.

Sidenote: I was so much more confident than I was in Mainhattan too. Thanks for reading my report! .

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2242325]Link to Part I.

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[B]Recollection of the past, autumn 2018 FKK tour, Part II[/B]

For fun. Don't take it seriously.

[B]Tuesday, Sharks. [/B]

Early morning I drove to France for a business conference. I had no plan to visit any FKK clubs for weak line up of lingerie day. Around 4 pm my dream girl texted me she would be in Sharks today. After 4 consecutive days of fighting in FKK battle fields, it became a very challenging thing for me to get a climax. Thinking of the fact that it would be also very fun to exploit her as sex toy, I decide drive 200 km to see her instead of attending a regular business reception. It was almost 8 PM when I entered the parking lot..[/QUOTE]Seem to be a difficult tour, but interesting writings for me because not only about sex, but more about changing relationship with girls. Reading about sex is so boring, who needs to know how other guy fuck a girl, I just don t care, I don t need to know, I don t plan to say to a girl: I want to fuck You on same way than the guy who described on internet, but some ask for same to girls. I remember some guys went to Raïssa World to ask for diner with her when we had 2 diners on a Saturday night, and my ex looking at me, when she was not busy. My girls who know I m a writer, just ask me not to write private details about us, none stopped because of my writings, even some were bullshit about my writings.

Since back from Summer holidays, really average Sharks casting for my eyes, I miss my mid June top class girl, but for only 2 week ends. Among so many GND, Elen maybe be the most fashion sexy, but your report would have been a nightmare for me, not wanting to put off fishnet, not able to play fluent sex, a real killing desire, not a woman behavior in bed, when can have fluent sex with Viorica even less sexy look, enthusiastic behavior in bed with 18 yo Svenja even lack of sensuality, but just normal, not a woman yet. Fortunately, can still find in Germany, for 50 per 30 mn and no upselling, woman type looks who behave to make you feel like with a GF in bed, and welcome You to repeat. With these girls, You don t stay only 30 mn, because you enjoy, versus just Asians hunters.

I visited Sharks for my first time recently, from morning until about 5,30 pm. I gaped at how great and nice it was. I felt nearly like being in a cruise ship, and explored each and every corner I could. I would improve the lighting, especially by the stairs: going upstairs at the opposite side of the marvellous rooms, there are little lights in the steps and I could decently see where I was going, but I couldn't when walking downwards.

The garden made me think of how great could be to be there in summer. I saw a barrack with all the little homes and toys for cats, differently from the day before at Oase, I didn't meet any. I rang a friend who flies to Sharks monthly, he said he had never noticed it! He gave me some hints, since I didn't even know where I was. Before, I had even got lost from navi sending me in the other half of Otto-Rohm Strasse, in the end I had to ask a man in the street for directions, LOL!

My friend told me I had been lucky in receiving the key of a big locker... Well, for once!

The food was very good and abundant, a lot of choice, nearly a cruise little buffet. The girls, when lining up with colleagues, were making bad comments on any man's choice about eating, taking too long to choose and to help himself, being there for eating but not for fucking, etc.

So, big club, clean, tidy, wonderful, to be explored like a museum specially when talking about what could be royal rooms of some royal palace... But what about the girls? When I arrived there must have been some 30, which I guess slowly nearly doubled up by the time I left. I found doable only 2! Yes, TWO! Bunches of demountable dolls, with noses up high and attitudes of goddesses (of what?).

People who are against prostitution complain that the woman is a toy, a sexual object in the hands of careless terrible ruthless men abusing them. Well, I felt an object! To be exploitated, chewed and spat after the use, a simple ATM machine from which to extract as much cash as possible giving back as less as possible.

During my phone calls with whomever, but mostly with my friend who was trying to reassure me about quality, I was basically standing by the entrance. He told me the best ones would arrive in late afternoon / evening. I kept on seeing girls arriving, and the very most of times I thought they were part of the staff (cleaners, cooks, whatever), because I couldn't imagine them being prostitutes, being so ugly, insignificant at best. How could this fabled club have such bad looking girls? Who would pay them 50 E? Actually much more, to do what? A memory picture of the visit, like the gladiators by the coliseum?

Some of them were not deign to stay in such a place, have such a behaviour, ask such amounts! With such outraging haughtiness and contempt, especially during dealing with offers / prices and when understanding they wouldn't succeed!

Anyway, I didn't have a great push to zimmer because in the evening I knew I would have dealt with much less plastic (and lattex) for little money, but I would have liked to be able to say I had had at least one room in Sharks, of course for minimum price, also as a sort of respect for the girls who normally make me happy with great service, great effort and little money.

I had sat on a couch and saw a pretty sweet smile directed to me. The girl was a bit wrapped in some towels, but seemed to have an ok body and earned my attention. After some chatting, during which she didn't suffer from my perplexities and "expectations", I told her that if I had made a room, it would have been with her. But later on. So she went directly in the arms of another man in front of me.

During one of my phone calls by the entrance, there was a girl phoning to her boyfriend and saying that she wanted to leave inspite of having joined the day before, because of the lack of work. She was beautiful, body, face, everywhere, and I thought she could be well-disposed. It seemed our condition of "geeks" could make us symphatize more easily. Unfortunately, she was a sharky shark (in Sharks, really a well chosen name!). Since I had no interest in fucking, I had tried (also in Oase), with a few girls who were to my taste, to exchange the fucking with the BBBJ and possibly kissing, but it seemed impossible.

With this girl I agreed 50 E for 30 minutes, with kissing, BBBJ, licking and fucking. Once in the room, in lying on the bed she got a pain in the neck which stopped any operation for nearly 5 minutes. Once allowed to start, I found out that I hadn't been clear enough about what "kissing" meant, but we couldn't blame the language! Then in 69 I found out that fingering was 50 more. In the end, she just BBBJed me and I fucked her. Obviously I didn't unload, she even cut short another couple of minutes in the end, but for about 23 minutes I gladly handled and squeezed a girl I normally don't come across, and honestly she was available and willing to resuscitate my poor asphyxiated dick those 2-3 times it collapsed oxygenless and she never complained about position, reposition, etc. Let's say that she was a bit of a cheat, but I felt satisfied enough, given the little or nothing that it seemed I could get with my poor 50 E.

When going downstairs, I was caught in full betray by my promised spouse, but what the hell, she had betrayed me as well. Shortly after, I expressed her my complaints for those cheatings and my fears that she would do the same. She reassured me she wouldn't cheat me, anyway I would have left soon for better services and prices, probably I wouldn't go to Sharks anymore, why not give her a chance? Compared to all the girls I had come across in those 2 days, she had had the greatest attitude.

She kept all her promises (practically anything apart from anal and AO fuck) and gave me quite a lot of good time on the couch and a good room, even if I couldn't finish, but this didn't matter. I still laugh when I recall her threatening me, with a smile but not too jokingly, to provide me a 5000 euros fine if something wrong had happened to the condom! LOL!

In such clubs, with such rules and such girls, I really think my 50 E went a long way, in the first room and much more in the second one, since she had a quite good body and was quite pretty, unlike the girl I had had in Oase the day before, who gave me muuuch more, but would fit more in Grimberg.

Conclusion: if I could go back to Oase tomorrow, I would have plenty of girls to my physical liking to evaluate. It is true that I didn't stay until night in Sharks to see all the beauties, which I had done in Oase, but if I went back to Darmstadt tomorrow, I would have only one girl, already zimmered. Sorry for not writing the names.

[QUOTE=EastGoing;2243366]So, big club, clean, tidy, wonderful, to be explored like a museum specially when talking about what could be royal rooms of some royal palace... But what about the girls? When I arrived there must have been some 30, which I guess slowly nearly doubled up by the time I left. I found doable only 2! Yes, TWO! Bunches of demountable dolls, with noses up high and attitudes of goddesses (of what?).

People who are against prostitution complain that the woman is a toy, a sexual object in the hands of careless terrible ruthless men abusing them. Well, I felt an object! To be exploitated, chewed and spat after the use, a simple ATM machine from which to extract as much cash as possible giving back as less as possible.

During my phone calls with whomever, but mostly with my friend who was trying to reassure me about quality, I was basically standing by the entrance. He told me the best ones would arrive in late afternoon / evening. I kept on seeing girls arriving, and the very most of times I thought they were part of the staff (cleaners, cooks, whatever), because I couldn't imagine them being prostitutes, being so ugly, insignificant at best. How could this fabled club have such bad looking girls? Who would pay them 50 E? Actually much more, to do what? A memory picture of the visit, like the gladiators by the coliseum?

Some of them were not deign to stay in such a place, have such a behaviour, ask such amounts! With such outraging haughtiness and contempt, especially during dealing with offers / prices and when understanding they wouldn't succeed![/QUOTE]Thanks for a great report. I've been waiting for years for my FKK debut but never pulled it off, mostly out of fear of getting disappointed. I've gotten the feeling that most members of this forum rate the looks of the women way too high. When I see original pics and videos of FKK interiors and the WGs I'm seldom impressed. Why pay entry fee to a club when you can check out the LU at any brothel? In a brothel it doesn't cost you anything to leave if you don't like the girls. I understand it's not only the girls the guys pay for but the whole FKK-package: the experience. But still, it all boils down to the sex in the end. And judging by the many negative reviews in recent years one may wonder if the FKK concept isn't a dying concept? Considering also that German FKKs attract mostly Romanian (and to some extent Bulgarian) WGs, one may think this really is the case.

[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2243452] I understand it's not only the girls the guys pay for but the whole FKK-package: the experience. But still, it all boils down to the sex in the end. And judging by the many negative reviews in recent years one may wonder if the FKK concept isn't a dying concept? Considering also that German FKKs attract mostly Romanian (and to some extent Bulgarian) WGs, one may think this really is the case.[/QUOTE]Seems to me you think too much and you read too many reports! This is IMHO why you lack physical experience in German FKK-clubs!

[QUOTE=Lanthano;2241827]

Main aim today was to meet up with 3 other ISG members at around 1 pm. Sure enough, Kosherkowboy, Mac75 and DerAuslaender (posted with their consent) were there and I got a chance to enjoy the club as a group, which I would argue is much better than solo. Great set of people that made my evening.

All 3 had a good time from what I could see. They can post the details of insatiable Columbianas and threesomes with young blonde girls with CIMs.
[/QUOTE]No threesomes for this guy at Sharks, threesomes are much better when one hops off and one hops on, zero cleanup no wipes nada! The Gypsy special!

Had one Colombiana, the other was Brazilian. Both great values, deals still there. Deals still at Oase too, buyers markets at both.

The company was great, I agree, glad you made it. Good seeing you again, meeting Der Auslander finally and Mac always fun to see as usual except this time saw him at a ' clean' venue.

Can't type worth shit w / o my keyboard, will post review once stateside.

On the day before my flight home I visited FKK Sharks. Since it was a Monday I used the 20 E discount card they gave me on my last trip when I visited on a Monday then. While paying the reduced 45 E entry a girl at the counter next to me was paying her entry fee. I could make out three 50 E notes plus some other notes under that as she handed them the money. Later I asked a girl I had seen last year what they pay and she told me it was 195 Euros. Explains why the girls are up-selling at this club now. They would have to do four 50 E basic calls just to pay for their entry!

I arrived just after the 11 AM opening and had a decent breakfast before going outside to relax with my coffee. It was a sunny day so I stayed outside until 1 PM. My plan was to relax and enjoy the club facilities until early evening and then do a session with a girl. Unfortunately there are not many other guys at the club early and some of the girls were trolling around trying to snare guys. One blonde kept pestering me on and off no matter where I went. She even came outside with a towel on when I was out there. I finally got rid of her by telling her that after eating breakfast I have to wait for nature to take it's course before doing a session. They seemed to gross her out and she made some faces at me but she left me alone after that.

During the afternoon I sat at my favorite observation post which is the couches near the money lockers & also near the door leading to the girls changing room. An extra bonus is the long winding staircase just feet away that leads upstairs to the session rooms. In this spot you get to see all the girls coming and going! I had a few girls girls in my sights and was trying to decide which one to see. On one hand there was the Glasses girl that kept telling me she wanted me to lick her Pussy while she sucked my Dick. Then there was Olivia who I sessioned with during my last visit. She was willing to do a complete GFE including CIM for 100 E total. A bargain compared to most other girls. Then there were two other contenders. One was a tall stacked blonde German girl with many tats and then there was a cute tall blonde Romanian with a thin model's body but with a very nice set of be Cup titties. Both were in my line of sight and I watched them for a while. Then a bunch of girls approached the Romanian girl. They were cackling like hens & soon I heard the Thin girl laughing loudly over and over. As soon as the gaggle of hens left I went over and talked to the thin girl.

As we talked we seemed to hit it off. She was 23 YO and her name was Mila. I finally popped the question. How much? She replied 100 E for GFE for kissing, BBBJ, Licking her, & sex with a condom. I told her let's do this and we headed up the stairs. We talked on the way and she was laughing most of the time. In the room we joked around and laughed for a while. It was a strange feeling. She was starting to feel like a new buddy you just met. But in the end no way was I going to waste this opportunity to molest her young nubile body. Off came the clothes and after some kissing I went right for her honey spot. As I licked her pussy she was propped up on her elbows smiling and kind of joking saying things like "ooo that's' nice" , " you like that pussy? I persisted and soon she closed her eyes and tilted her head back letting out a little moan. Now she was in my territory! I enjoyed her sweet pussy for some time then I had her move over for 69. She began a very nice BBBJ. I enjoyed that for some time but soon realized I should have just had her give me a BBBJ by itself so I could watch her. The BBBJ felt great but I could only image her face as she sucked slow and hard on my dick. I went back to licking her sweet pussy while holding onto her firm petite Ass cheeks.

Next I told her it was time for sex and she applied the cover. We did a number of positions with her making small grunts sounds along the way. I was enjoying the feeling of her pussy but having so much sex during this trip was taking it's toll. Hot as she was I was starting to worry if I was going to be able to finish or not. CIM was out of the question as this seemed more like a Buddy Fuck to me and I didn't want to take advantage of her like that! Up to this point I had avoided Missionary position because again it seemed too intimate for this situation but no way did I want to leave this morsel on the plate. I had Mila move up on the bed and as I got on top of her she guided me in. After a few minutes Mila began to hug me and that spurred me on until I popped a few more minutes later. I stayed in her for a while to catch my breath. When I raised my head Mila asked " how old are you?" . I told her I didn't want to scare her? She said she works in this club so I wouldn't scare her. I told her to triple her age. She looked at me and said "no. You fuck like bull". I didn't want to tarnish my image by telling her I'm just an old guy weary from too many women in a short time so I just left it at that!

Downstairs I showered and ate dinner. I then went to the bar to get a Coffee and the girl on a stool next to me turned to me. It was Mila. We talked a little and I told her I heard that it cost her 195 E just to get in this club. She replied " I'm halfway there". I told her good luck and went to sit at my spot. A few minuets later I looked up to see Mila walking up the stairs with a guy. Halfway up she turned to me and gave me a little wave. I then I gave her the two thumbs up gesture. It made her smile. Later when the guy was paying her at the money locker she glanced at me. I gave her a few small silent hand claps. She then gave me a quick upward head nod with a big smirk on her face. I stayed on the couch taking in the sites for some time. At one point Olivia came over and sat sideways across my lap. She said I should go to the room with her. I told her I was too wore out. She said she could make me happy and she tried one of her tactics by slipping her hand in my robe and grabbing my Dick as she leaned in and kissed my neck. I told her to see for herself then. After a few moments she realized I was telling the truth and she gave me a kiss on my cheek and went off to find a new target.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2243471]Seems to me you think too much and you read too many reports! This is IMHO why you lack physical experience in german FKK-clubs![/QUOTE]In other words: Was der Bauer nicht kennt, das frist er nicht.

Hey guys,

So, day 2 was amazing I tell you. You can read my other report a few posts below.

Arrived at the same time. Had food did the same thing, food was nice so on and so forth!

Today I wanted to see the girl that looked like the older version of Arya stark. Great looking but she seemed a bit "bored" on Wednesday. I waited for about 2 h to look around for her but seems she was either busy or didn't show.

Last night there was this Romanian girl Called Mira that kept talking with me and asked if I wanted to have some fun, great damn girl I tell you. We clicked and all but I wasn't feeling it last night. Today however I went with her.

Agreed to 100/60 for GFE and it honestly was the best GFE I've had since a girl in park118 in Amsterdam.

Mira: She is kinda short, maybe 165 cm with killer boobs and a nice butt. Neither too skinny nor too "busty? Great brown eyes and oh. My. God those damn lips. Insanely hot lips. She thought I was a cute guy and honestly she was persistent. She kept asking me last night about going with her and every time I turned her down and said later she took it without any problems. Today I didn't want to disappoint her and I felt that I really wanted to go with her. Since "Arya Stark" didn't show up I went with Mira.

Kissing, hugging etc she wasn't like some other girls that has sex with you with the minimal possible psysical contact. Blowjob was quite good I must say. We did Missionary and Cowgirl and when doing missionary (I don't know if it was a real orgasm or not) but she shivered and got tighter and told me to cum with her. Unfortunately I didn't, we kept going a bit more but with my usual self I didn't cum. She asked if I wanted to finish with handjob and I said sure. After awhile I told her its OK I'm having trouble cumming its not you its me etc. She told me its okay as long as I had fun which I did and I told her that. We stayed and did other stuff (not sexual) together which I honestly want to keep to myself.

The hour session turned into a 100 minute session, maybe more. She told me don't worry about the time I won't need to pay extra because she wanted to be there.

Then we went to the locker and I payed her 100 euro +20 euro tip.

Rating.

Blowjob: 9/10.

Personality 10/10.

Sex: 8/10 (didn't finish but that's standard for me now LOL).

Service:10/10.

Would I go back? Yes 1000000 times yes. Great girl. If you go with her then treat her nice, she kinda hit a soft spot for me.

I didn't have much time before I needed to go home so I took some food to eat before I leave. When I was on my way to look if Lisa a new girl from hungry / Romania? That worked there for only 2 days was there I walked into another girl I saw yesterday when I first arrived. She always seemed to be talking with someone, either girl or guy. Since she always talked with someone I didn't want to approach her. Blonde with glasses decently tall and has a killer smile.

First time I see her alone, she was walking around. I was only going to ask Lisa if she worked tomorrow but I can't pass this up. She is finally alone I tell you!!

Her name was Anita and she is from Romania. Again, medium long blonde hair with some brownish highlights. Glasses and killer smile.

Anita: She said that DFK is extra, I didn't care I wanted to be with her so I threw out a 120 euro for an hour session with her and she accepted. Quite good but I could feel teeth abit from time to time which wasnt nice. But other than that it was a great blowjob.

Oh BTW we kissed for a good while before. And while Mira had these big lovely lips they were "harder?" than Anitas lips. Anitas lips were so soft and sweet, easily the best kissing I've had before. This session wasn't planned on being a GFE but it turned up quite good. The right amount of tongue and so on. (I don't care if she gave 10 guys before me a BBBJ she was just that great honestly and I wanted DFK with her.).

She asked which position I wanted and I told her cowgirl with her on top and to kiss me at the same time. And guys. It took me about 3-5 minutes max before I came. I finally came from sex and not a handjob! I told her "you have no idea what this means" And she laughed and said believe me I do. I then told the story of the "Finishless" guy that have had multiple girls since Monday and even a threesome without even finishing from sex or blowjob. She was surprised to say the least but I swear I saw some pride in her eyes.

Since we didn't talk much before going to the room we ended up talking for a solid 30 minutes or more about anything and everything. My intuition of her being a great girl was correct and I had a lovey time with her.

Rating:

Looks: 10/10 honestly she ticks everything for me, I usually like brunettes a lot more but her blonde hair just does it for me. She isn't the "Victoria secret girl" (plastic girl) but rather a normal looking stunner for me. Everyone has their own tastes I say.

Service: 10/10 Great and relaxed, no rushing and she's sweet.

Blowjob 8/10 would've been higher if it wasn't for the teeth.

Personality: 10/10 just a damn gem.

Sex: 10/10 I came, do I need to say anything else? Fine, I tried only cowgirl with her, when I felt I was going to cum I didn't gold back and I said "fuck trying other positions I'm about to finally cum" LOL. I don't know what she did but it felt amazing.

Overall: 10/10 I know the blowjob was only an 8 but the other stuff would exceed the "10 rating" in my eyes so it compensates. Literally the best girl I've had since that one girl in Park118 Amsterdam (she is a close 2nd and maybe even upcoming #1).

Hope you guys like my review.

I was going to go to FKK mMainhattan tomorrow to give it another chance but. NahSharks it is. If anyone want to meet for a talk or so feel free to msg me here (have no PM I'm afraid).

[QUOTE=Tp273;2243519]On the day before my flight home I visited FKK Sharks. Since it was a Monday I used the 20 E discount card they gave me on my last trip when I visited on a Monday then. While paying the reduced 45 E entry a girl at the counter next to me was paying her entry fee. I could make out three 50 E notes plus some other notes under that as she handed them the money. Later I asked a girl I had seen last year what they pay and she told me it was 195 Euros. Explains why the girls are up-selling at this club now. They would have to do four 50 E basic calls just to pay for their entry!

I arrived just after the 11 AM opening and had a decent breakfast before going outside to relax with my coffee. It was a sunny day so I stayed outside until 1 PM. My plan was to relax and enjoy the club facilities until early evening and then do a session with a girl. Unfortunately there are not many other guys at the club early and some of the girls were trolling around trying to snare guys. One blonde kept pestering me on and off no matter where I went. She even came outside with a towel on when I was out there. I finally got rid of her by telling her that after eating breakfast I have to wait for nature to take it's course before doing a session. They seemed to gross her out and she made some faces at me but she left me alone after that.

During the afternoon I sat at my favorite observation post which is the couches near the money lockers & also near the door leading to the girls changing room. An extra bonus is the long winding staircase just feet away that leads upstairs to the session rooms. In this spot you get to see all the girls coming and going! I had a few girls girls in my sights and was trying to decide which one to see. On one hand there was the Glasses girl that kept telling me she wanted me to lick her Pussy while she sucked my Dick. Then there was Olivia who I sessioned with during my last visit. She was willing to do a complete GFE including CIM for 100 E total. A bargain compared to most other girls. Then there were two other contenders. One was a tall stacked blonde German girl with many tats and then there was a cute tall blonde Romanian with a thin model's body but with a very nice set of be Cup titties. Both were in my line of sight and I watched them for a while. Then a bunch of girls approached the Romanian girl. They were cackling like hens & soon I heard the Thin girl laughing loudly over and over. As soon as the gaggle of hens left I went over and talked to the thin girl...[/QUOTE]Never forget that they are prostitutes willing to suck as cash as possible from you by using all kind of means. Keep your head cold so many guys are facing issues with girls in the clubs.

[QUOTE=Tp273;2243519]On the day before my flight home I visited FKK Sharks. Since it was a Monday I used the 20 E discount card they gave me on my last trip when I visited on a Monday then. While paying the reduced 45 E entry a girl at the counter next to me was paying her entry fee. I could make out three 50 E notes plus some other notes under that as she handed them the money. Later I asked a girl I had seen last year what they pay and she told me it was 195 Euros. Explains why the girls are up-selling at this club now. They would have to do four 50 E basic calls just to pay for their entry!.[/QUOTE]195 € for girls entry? What the fuck would say once more my little doll at Wellcum. At, fire in bed princess, like when I touched her, so sensitive, so fire in bed. So expensive when my weekly favorites paid 75 € for entry, 25 € for taxes but they never got any bill for paying taxes, and 20 € to sleep, in 2016. Maybe Megan pay less expensive at Globe, and make 130 € per 30 mn.

At GT which is much higher level business than cheap everything for 50 for most clients at Sharks, reason why best girls leave, GT girls pay 55 € , and some are booked for 5, 6, 7 hours. I knew only Florentina booked for so long at Sharks, when she was booked 10 hours every Friday afternoon, so when on second time, she asked: We see later? I answered: I don't wait, even she was the highest level at Sharks on second mid 2017.

NRW is higher level and less expensive for all, than touristic Hessen.

[QUOTE=Momosa;2243525]Mira: She is kinda short, maybe 165 cm with killer boobs and a nice butt.[/QUOTE]For those who like it: the "killer boobs" are artifacts, mostly made of silicone.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2243832]For those who like it: the "killer boobs" are artifacts, mostly made of silicone.[/QUOTE]I never really liked silicon all that much but hers isn't too big or too "hard" and although I rather have naturals I think she had nice ones. But yes everyone has different tastes.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2243832]For those who like it: the "killer boobs" are artifacts, mostly made of silicone.[/QUOTE]Sili is a no go for me, but seems to be quite okay for some guys.

[QUOTE=Momosa;2243151]Was this girl that looked a little like Arya stark in game of thrones but with long hair and a bit more mature. I would've gone with her but she was talking with her friend and was on the couch and I wasn't too sure. She looked a bit too mechanical. Will try her out tomorrow if I get the chance. (If you got any info about her please tell me she was sitting on a couche in the middle to the right my report! .[/QUOTE]That is likely to be Magda. Always looks bored, and does not approach customers, and spends all her time talking to a plumpish blonde friend. She has regulars who go to her. Tried her twice last year. Both times good, but not outstanding. But last year, this Magda always sat at the bar counter on the end nearest the entrance. I have not seen her the whole of this year, so maybe this is another girl.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2243918]That is likely to be Magda. Always looks bored, and does not approach customers, and spends all her time talking to a plumpish blonde friend. She has regulars who go to her. Tried her twice last year. Both times good, but not outstanding. But last year, this Magda always sat at the bar counter on the end nearest the entrance. I have not seen her the whole of this year, so maybe this is another girl.[/QUOTE]Her cousin Linda.

Magda was not in a few months when I visited.

I am thinking it is not Magda or else UncleOx would have mentioned her. UO — please confirm.

Agree, that GT now swung back to great level. And true, many girls at GT make regular 3-5 HR rooms. And also true: I never ever experienced upsell in GT either.

But: As a part-time boob-lover I think in GT the girls are either slim or fake. Just 2-3 'see'cup ladies. No 'd'cup.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2243713]195 for girls entry? What the fuck would say once more my little doll at Wellcum. At, fire in bed princess, like when I touched her, so sensitive, so fire in bed. So expensive when my weekly favorites paid 75 for entry, 25 for taxes but they never got any bill for paying taxes, and 20 to sleep, in 2016. Maybe Megan pay less expensive at Globe, and make 130 per 30 mn.

At GT which is much higher level business than cheap everything for 50 for most clients at Sharks, reason why best girls leave, GT girls pay 55 , and some are booked for 5, 6, 7 hours. I knew only Florentina booked for so long at Sharks, when she was booked 10 hours every Friday afternoon, so when on second time, she asked: We see later? I answered: I don't wait, even she was the highest level at Sharks on second mid 2017.

NRW is higher level and less expensive for all, than touristic Hessen.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2243923][QUOTE=TankTank123;2243918]That is likely to be Magda. Always looks bored, and does not approach customers, and spends all her time talking to a plumpish blonde friend. She has regulars who go to her. Tried her twice last year. Both times good, but not outstanding. But last year, this Magda always sat at the bar counter on the end nearest the entrance. I have not seen her the whole of this year, so maybe this is another girl.[/QUOTE]Her cousin Linda.

Magda was not in a few months when I visited.

I am thinking it is not Magda or else UncleOx would have mentioned her. UO please confirm.[/QUOTE]If the girl looks like Arya Stark, then I think she could be Mila, or Selina. Both girls approached me several times before.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2243966]Agree, that GT now swung back to great level. And true, many girls at GT make regular 3-5 HR rooms. And also true: I never ever experienced upsell in GT either.

But: As a part-time boob-lover I think in GT the girls are either slim or fake. Just 2-3 'see'cup ladies. No 'd'cup.[/QUOTE]Florentina / Luana and new Laura are solid natural the cups. I do recall seeing a scar on Luana so I'm not 100% convinced that they are natural.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2243966]Agree, that GT now swung back to great level. And true, many girls at GT make regular 3-5 HR rooms. And also true: I never ever experienced upsell in GT either.

But: As a part-time boob-lover I think in GT the girls are either slim or fake. Just 2-3 'see'cup ladies. No 'd'cup.[/QUOTE]My meaning is if Sharks girls really have to pay 195€ to work, meaning 2 hours in room just to pay entry and not even cigarettes, damn expensive in a quite cheap business, and really at night with Turkish, Albanians, Afghans, when some GT girls make more than 1000 per day on average, only smart sexy girls of course.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2168627]My first and last session with Yra, long long time ago.[/QUOTE]Sources tell that she showed up around 8 pm yesterday with Cosmina, WOW.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2243918]That is likely to be Magda. Always looks bored, and does not approach customers, and spends all her time talking to a plumpish blonde friend. She has regulars who go to her. Tried her twice last year. Both times good, but not outstanding. But last year, this Magda always sat at the bar counter on the end nearest the entrance. I have not seen her the whole of this year, so maybe this is another girl.[/QUOTE]Hey!

No it wasn't Magda, I was with the girl I mentioned last night. Her name is Mila and she is Romanian and 21 years old. She told me I could call her Arya or Mila whatever floated my boat. I misread her the first day because when I saw her she was mostly just tired and honestly I was a bit intimidated by other girls around her. But when I went with her last night I found out how great she really was. Honestly one of the cutest personalities I've been with. Great service and loved to chat. Her service rivaled Anita from the day before honestly.

So breakdown of Arya "Mila" Stark. Pretty green / blueish eyes, blonde hair, big eyes and lovely small lips. A small butt but pretty nice IMHO. Natural small boobs, quite thin and looks like Arya. If you are into feet and legs then hers are quite nice. She's got an intoxicating personality I have to say, jokes a lot, and generally a really really nice girl. We spent a lot of time talking with me and it felt like a really good GFE.

What I liked was her being playful during the session. If you want the opposite of mechanical she would be it. Of course only if you treat her well etc.

Looks: 8,5-9/10 she is very pretty and cute rather than "super hot plastic model" which is to my liking. Girl next door type I would say. Cuter than Arya stark IMHO.

Body: 9/10 I loved that she was all natural, no puffy lips, no boobs that are about to burst etc. Quite nice. Might sound weird but I loved her belly.

Personality: 10/10 Just a great girl, good listener.

Service: 10/10 She was serious about giving me a great time and I did have a great time.

Sex: 8,5-9/10 It was really nice and the rhythm variations she did was nice, her movement was just great!

Blowjob: 9,5/10 was so great, lovely blowjob and I don't think I felt any teeth at all. Anita was abit better with the sex but Mila was better with the blowjob.

Overall: 9,5/10.

Damage: Agreed for 1 h 100 euro. I tipped her another 10-20 euro (don't remember really, I was tired and it was like 2 am).

Would I go to her again? Oh yes I would! If you treat her good she will too!

I also went to Gina the German 30+ year old blonde with big boobs (I think those are natural cause they were so damn soft LOL) before Mila / arya. I wanted to try a rough session with a little harder stuff. Honestly I don't know how I liked that session, Gina was brilliant at it and always checked with me if it was okay or not etc. But I just don't know if it was something for me really. Therefor I will not review it since it was my first time trying something like this out.

There's also this 21 year old Roxxy that I met yesterday when I stole her "spot" so to speak. She sat next to me and we talked for a good while. No pressure of room or anything. Anyway I had my eyes set for Mila today so I wanted to wait for her. But Roxxy was going to be here on Saturday, Sunday and Monday so I figured I would have my chance soon again. She is black haired, lovely girl too. She sits under the TV behind the bar (if you come from the entrance.) Hopefully I will see her before I leave.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2244100]Sources tell that she showed up around 8 pm yesterday with Cosmina, WOW.[/QUOTE]Do not worry YamaYama, you will see Yra and Cosmina soon enough. You too can have them both sucking on your cock in unison.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2244023]Florentina / Luana and new Laura are solid natural the cups. I do recall seeing a scar on Luana so I'm not 100% convinced that they are natural.[/QUOTE]Of course Luana is natural masterpiece, a lucky girl from nature. Cami at GT has also superb natural tits.

First Momosa, truly enjoying your reports. Seems like we like a lot of the same type of girls. And it is great to see those prices at Sharks. I was truly paying that and more for HALF hours at Artemis.

You talked about that girl who made you cum in cowgirl. Surely some of this is just chemistry. Some girls just get you going from the get go. But I think it's anatomy too. Just like there are infinite variations in how people look same is true for pussys. Some just don't work for me very well. And some work great cowgirl but not as great doggie (and I love doggie). I saw this profoundly at Artemis. Most girls it was OK. With Salome, fuck, her pussy was just made for me. Doggie, cowgirl, Mish. It felt fabulous in all positions and really I was ready to cum several times. (Rare w condom). Although I finished both time with spectacular tittle fuck (which by the way works as good as finishing by hand for me feels almost like bareback with the right girl.)

I was struck by your persistent girl episode also. My girl Karina (dead ringer for Deadpool's Morena Baccarin) was struggling to finish me (8th session in three days) and I went to help out. She swatted my hand away and said "I will keel you!" She was very dedicated. Five minutes later I said I didn't think it was happening but she was committed. She got me fingering her pussy, doing doe eyes etc and sure enough she was right. Kabam! A very nice finish ((and ran 10 minutes over). I do think some of these girls really take pride in their work.

[QUOTE=Momosa;2244179]No it wasn't Magda, I was with the girl I mentioned last night. Her name is Mila and she is Romanian and 21 years old. She told me I could call her Arya or Mila whatever floated my boat.[/QUOTE]Mila also came to my mind when I read your earlier post as she is one of the core dance pole girls sitting to the right and to me looks a little bit like Arya. But I ruled her out as you used the word 'mature' and Mila behaves and looks very far from mature, and is never passive. Furthermore, she disclaimed knowledge of Arya and told me that she took the name Mila because people said she looked like Mila Kunis. First time I took her, she called herself Romina (and also Romana to others). But for a real Arya lookalike, I hope you get to see Magda one day.

By the way, if you want someone who looks a bit and behaves as arrogant as a young Cersei Lannister, try Bianca who often sits with Mila,

[QUOTE=OmarRap;2244188]Do not worry YamaYama, you will see Yra and Cosmina soon enough. You too can have them both sucking on your cock in unison.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your information, OmarRap. YamaYama.

[QUOTE=Momosa;2244179]I also went to Gina the German 30+ year old blonde with big boobs (I think those are natural cause they were so damn soft LOL) before Mila / arya. I wanted to try a rough session with a little harder stuff. Honestly I don't know how I liked that session, Gina was brilliant at it and always checked with me if it was okay or not etc. But I just don't know if it was something for me really. Therefor I will not review it since it was my first time trying something like this out.[/QUOTE]Fair enough if you don't wish to review it, but mind sharing what the experience in question was?

Considering a trip over early next year, probably around the weekend of the 19th. How's the LU around that time? Recovered from the holidays yet, or should I plan the trip around a different time?

[QUOTE=LMatador;2244420]Fair enough if you don't wish to review it, but mind sharing what the experience in question was?[/QUOTE]It was light BDSM kinda. I mean its not that I don't want to share its more like I don't really know how to review it since its new and I didn't know if I liked it or not. But like slapping, biting, being dominated etc. (me being dominated).

Sorry if it didn't really answer your question too much.

Arrived at 3 PM. Looked like about 40 plus girls at that time. Hardly found new faces. So settled down for favorite past time, that is, sipping beer, smoking and watching girls naked. No doubt it is a wonderful sight and I always relish. You seem to think all girls are fuckable at first sight and only later to start short listing.

Had the first session with Salina, from Brazil. 32 years. Appears your next door girl. But seductive. Was not willing to go for less than E 100 if it is BBJ and DFK for 30 minutes. Agreed for the price and went with her. Unusually high men at this time so took me to rooms behind swimming pool. Great experience with her. Lovely girl. Excellent BBJ. She knows the art of sucking. Then DFK and fucking. I enjoyed with her.

Whiled away next one and half hours or little more in whirlpool and relaxing with beer. Then took Niki, Bulgarian, with whom I had a room two days back. Good BBJ and kissing came in her mouth. Spent rest of the time chatting and relaxing. E 100 for one hour.

The third and last one was Netali from Slovakia. 25 years. Very nice girl. You guessed right. E 100. Fantastic experience with BBJ, DFK, DATY etc and sex in multiple position. She costed me another E 35 for a Picola. Did not mind as I had nice time with her. Wanted me to spend another hour but for only E 50 but I had no energy and bid good bye to her.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2244083]My meaning is if Sharks girls really have to pay 195 to work, meaning 2 hours in room just to pay entry and not even cigarettes, damn expensive in a quite cheap business, and really at night with Turkish, Albanians, Afghans, when some GT girls make more than 1000 per day on average, only smart sexy girls of course.[/QUOTE]Seems Sharks girls entry would be 105, not 195, but 55 € in best business club in Germany, GT. But better for girls who have to work 1 hour to pay entry. I wonder if all girls have enough business everyday to pay entry.

[QUOTE=StapleStable;2244445]Considering a trip over early next year, probably around the weekend of the 19th. How's the LU around that time? Recovered from the holidays yet, or should I plan the trip around a different time?[/QUOTE]Boyo, if mid January is the only slot you got then I recommend you get your doner kebab to a FKK club near you, line up good or bad. Married men or men with other halves cannot pick or choose to time it right. Common sense.

It will be alright on the night.

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2241615]Back from this autumn 9-days FKK tour.

I approached [B]Dina[/B] again and told her I was ready for her. I also told her I could spend time with her as long as possible since today would be her last day at sharks. However, [B]our Queen[/B] used a very harsh and hoarse tone to warn me that she would never go with me again because she saw I took at least two girls to room before her. She thought I was lying to her. I tried to explain the situation and also pointed out that we actually did not set up appointment and she did allow me to find her later. She said she should have priority. And she though I did not respect and like her. I did have plan to keep her until club close if she likes (800 euros budget) but she said it was unnecessary because there were already three customers in the waiting list (This is the third times Dina rejected me abruptly in the past three years. No surprise. I wished I could see her again someday.[/QUOTE]Sometimes you have no idea how these girls think. Guys think, hey I am taking all your available time. Be with me and here is this minimum wage money for your time at 100 bucks a hour. The girls like Dina want to make money but do it with the least amount of effort as possible. Common sense.

You offer a perfectly fine business proposition of 800 euros from 9 pm to closing at 5 am to cover 8 hours of room time, but she thinks that is too much effort. Dina prefers to go with the three other customers since she could probably do one hour each with them for 200 to 250 euro making just as much for far less effort on her part. Common sense.

Love the reports Unca Ox.

As for the budget of 800 euros for one girl then that just seems common sense as well.

Sometimes you have no idea how these girls think. Guys think, hey I am taking all your available time. Be with me and here is this minimum wage money for your time at 100 bucks a hour. The girls like Dina want to make money but do it with the least amount of effort as possible. Common sense.

You offer a perfectly fine business proposition of 800 euros from 9 pm to closing at 5 am to cover 8 hours of room time, but she thinks that is too much effort. Dina prefers to go with the three other customers since she could probably do one hour each with them for 200 to 250 euro making just as much for far less effort on her part. Common sense.

Love the reports Unca Ox.

As for the budget of 800 euros for one girl then that just seems common sense as well.

If any girl will reject me I will never go again with her, I will just ignore her even not a Hello, nothing. Sometimes we try to put too much logic and rationality, they are prostitutes nothing more, and they behave like that. If they were able to do other things in their life they will not be there getting fucked every day by everyone. Sometimes I went out or even on holidays with girls from the club and you can really discover their personality, most of them have low energy, very limited point of interest, no willing at all to discover new things and have uncontrolled reactions.

I would pay 800 only if the girl stays 24 hrs with me. Even then, it has got to be a special girl. In reality, at my age today I am not likely to have sex for more than a couple of hours with the girl, especially if it is one single girl I am staying with the whole time. It is true I do multiple sessions in a single day when in a club, and if I tally up all the hours they might add upto 3 to 4 per day. But is also probably true that my libido is working extra time because I am channeling multiple girls which adds to the excitement. ANd of those 3 to 4 hrs of session time, the hard pounding sex is 60 to 90 min tops. Now, if I engage a single girl for 24 hours, even with multiple cummings, it is very unlikely that the actual BJ+fuck times will exceed 90 to 120 min. Perhaps 150 min if I have and't had sex in a few days.

Which means the remaining 500+ EUro is being paid for cuddling, kissing, enjoying her company, or just to feel good because you paid your fav girl.

P.S.: Bitumen, good to see you back. Hope all is well with you.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2244689]Boyo, if mid January is the only slot you got then I recommend you get your doner kebab to a FKK club near you, line up good or bad. Married men or men with other halves cannot pick or choose to time it right. Common sense.

It will be alright on the night.[/QUOTE]StapleStable here; somehow forgot the password to that account, so made a new one.

Fortunately not tied down by anything, was just eyeing mid-Jan because of the long weekend and cheap flights. Not too important that I go in Jan, since I'll be mongering in a different place in Feb, so just figured I'd ask to see if the LU would be decent enough to go.

[QUOTE=Momosa;2244546]Sorry if it didn't really answer your question too much.[/QUOTE]Not at all, quite the opposite in fact. As someone who has discovered the BDSM scene I'm quite eager to see what sharks has to offer in that regard.

Sharks Wednesday 50 e.

Halfway through a 2 week trip and I still had not visited Sharks. Frankly it's become a boring club with an increasing number of girls who withhold services for 50 euros. I've already accepted Oase as my 100 e club but hope that 50 e will still get you a decent room at Sharks. In my opinion, it will remain this way a little longer due to the large number of girls. Capitalism and competition has a way of keeping prices reasonable.

It has been 3 months since my last visit and I noticed that the line up is better compared to July. Even though it's not my favorite club, it still has the most number of attractive girls in all of Germany. If only they would do something about the stale atmosphere. Take for example, this Halloween night. Not a single girl was in costume, not even simple cat ears. How could the largest, highest earning sex club in Germany not put up a single decoration or attempt some sort of festivity on the most sexually charged holiday of the year? Perhaps they need to employ a lady event or guest services coordinator.

Anyway, back to the report. Like I mentioned, the lineup was the best (optically) of the 5 clubs visited this trip. It was slim blond heaven. Some had silicons, some had naturals, but if slim girls are your taste, Sharks easily has the most girls that fit the bill.

Upon arrival around 1300, there were easily 40 girls present. I spoke to small milky skin Roxy, reflecting on old times of 2016 when she first arrived. She really is a cute petite girl whom I recommend as a no drama girl, no upsell girl. I don't take her myself as in the past, she has been a friend to me in my personal life. I'll return the favor with an endorsement of her services.

After speaking with Roxy, I saw Mila walk in and knew that this was the day I would take her after 2 years speaking with her. She was the lone torch bearer for the Pole Dance crew all summer so I had to complete the set. Man she was great.

Mila 50 e + 10 e tip.

I was 48 hours without a room so I was ready. She had taken the previous day off and was just starting her day so she also was ready. I told her I wanted a quick room and she just replied with, "finally, we know each other for 2 years!" (I met her on her first day 2 years ago and just managed to never fit her in, LOL.) Well, the room was amazing. 10 minute DATY, 5 minute awesome BJ, and 10 minutes in 3 positions later, I think we both finished, starting both our days in a great way. She was busy the rest of the day so I'm glad I got to her first. Overall 7.5/10.

I took the next 4 or 5 hours to just relax and meet up with American friends. I said my obligatory hellos without much interest in anyone. Betty came over and gave her princess act as she always does, big turn off. I had no sure targets until out came Helen from the locker room.

Helen 100 e 1 hour.

It's been a while since I've roomed with Helen. She looks great as always. Pretty face, perfect tits, a plump firm ass, and absolutely no fat on her stomach. I chatted her up at the bar, but she didn't quite remember me, at least not the room. No offense taken and we sit down to chat in the corner near the sauna. I think she has picked up this good tactic from former greats Evita and Sandra. She didn't really have to do this as I already knew I was taking her but the effort was appreciated. After a 5 minute chat, we're off to a room. Taking an upstairs room, we continue chatting, leading to MFK, and a 20 minute BJ. She's good in all positions but especially good in doggy and reverse cowgirl. My only critique is for her to tone down the porno noises as they do not feel authentic. She left to grab drinks for us but returned within 3 minutes. She seems to have grown up a little from 9 months ago and can really become a superstar if she continues to mature. Overall 8/10.

I entertained options for the rest of the night but settled on splitting a bottle with with friends and taking a massage from the huuuge butt Puerto Rica masseuse at 3 am. She wasn't bad as she gets on top of you and uses her knees and shins but the best masseur is still the young Turkish guy.

[QUOTE=LMatador;2244420]Fair enough if you don't wish to review it, but mind sharing what the experience in question was?[/QUOTE]See'Mon., use your imagination. He sampled the derriere.

I recently spent two days at Sharks. Here are a few observations. I don't remember this from the brief into, but a lady on the floor warned me it's a €50 fine if you are caught with your phone out while inside the club. Locker room is OK. The second warning was that if I lose my key it's €250 charge.

At 11 am I entered and was immediately met at the bar by Monica, who approached like the Tasmanian Devil. I would rebuff this lady another 20 times over two days. The second lady approached me moments later was Timaya, young, short, cute lady with glasses claiming Hungarian but failed the basic language test. After a quick chat I told her I was on marathon pace not a sprint. At this point I had my two hard approaches by ladies and I hadn't even gotten my coffee yet, which was a sign of things to come.

Honestly, I had four sessions in two days, three on day one, two ladies I don't recall the names of. The first was a new arrival with curly dirty blond hair with large pretty eyes. I think the things that made her stand out to me were her nicely trimmed full Bush and super nasty attitude which played into my mindset at the moment. She said arrived from Finca. Once in the room we started with kissing but she tactically avoided DFK. After the BJ was adequate but lacking on the porn factor I was looking for and I was reprimanded for touching her hair. After a couple minutes she stopped to start spitting and then grabbed a condem. Gel applied heavily, she moved into CG where her movements lacked a rhythm I could survive. In disappointment I called an end to the session. Thirty minutes at €50.

The second session was with so sweet Sharlet, RO brunette sitting at the bar, pale skin, wearing knee high black stockings, cute face and nice petite body. Sharlet was quite clever and managed to trigger a sensual seduction fame. Lots of slow kissing games, including body. This progressed to DATY, BJ, doggy, missionary and CG. A one hour session at €100.

I don't remember the name of the third, but I chose her purely for optics. She was a RO I selected with almost no conversation. In the room she came across with an arrogant attitude, acting like I was so lucky she had chosen me, when honestly at that time of night the ladies outnumbered the bears, and most of the bears were focused on their drinks or moving to the lockers. She didn't even approach to kiss, but dropped into standing BJ. Her technique was rough and not a pleasure. After ten minutes of this she acted upset that I wasn't even close to a pop. She stood to move toward the bed mumbling instructions to me. I decided to burn the rest of the €50 and call the session. She came back with a "you promised 1 hour" and I corrected her by adding "if I'm having fun, and I'm not". Fifteen minutes at €50.

On day two I continued to pass on the large number of ladies that continually approached. About 3 pm Sharlet approached again. I told her she was beautiful and asked her where she had been all my life. I gave her a hug and kiss on the cheak and started to walk away. She asked where I was going and I started to the stairs and told her, to the room, what about you. This time she insisted it was my day to be pleasured. She did an excellent job, successfully exceeding my expectations. This was a top level session for me, moving through several positions and fantasies over the hour, stretching out to about the 59th minute. One hour session with extras at €150.

Other notable ladies:

Three at 180 cm and up. Two from Lithuania claiming to be the tallest in the club at 180 cm. This was proven to be a false claim when Lisa from Hungary corrected this with her 183 cm without shoes. Honestly, I found Lisa quite attractive. I hesitated and the next bear stepped up, escorting her up the stairs, keeping her for the pancake. I saw her return to be quickly claimed by another, and after this the first repeated with her.

Coming in at 173 cm without shoes was Leonie, DE. She has dirty blonde hair, pierced left nipple and pierced belly button. Really nice lady with an attractive figure.

Deborah, RO, blonde hair at 170 cm was spotted in the dining area. I guess she is about 33 years old. She had a very sophisticated look about her, great conversation and a very nice body. Again I hesitated and she was whisked away for a pancake session.

Lynn, African, maybe 30 years old. She seemed quite nice to speak with and had a really nice shaped body. She seemed to have a group of known customers resulting in several long sessions and couch time.

Venus, RO, very petite with black hair and glasses. I saw her early the first day but she disappeared early and wasn't present my second day. I know her from a past club and really wanted a chance to get reacquainted but missed the chance.

Olympia, claims half Egyption, half Italian. She wins my nomination for most costic woman in the club. She didn't appreciate my recommendation she claim half Greek if she chose the name Olympia or that she consider using the names Alexandria, Rome, Firenza or Pizza.

Disappointments about the club, it was way too hot and the continued hard approaches by the ladies. Two of the jacuzzis were drained. I didn't like the layout of the food during breakfast which caused several trips across the area, and you almost need a helper to get scrambled eggs with this setup.

Highlights, the music was never too loud to speak like I've seen in other clubs. The sauna experience was great and I completely appreciated Dieter and his very German attitude toward sauna culture. I highly recommend taking the time to experience this. The Asian food served next to the kitchen was very nice. It was much nicer than the buffet choices. There is a specialized S&M room equipped for those who might like to try. I discussed this with one lady but she was very vague about pricing. My imagination got carried away and I saw the €50 notes flying from my bank account. Her comment to me is the price depends on what you want. To me, this ruins the S&M experience a bit.

All in all, I will go back, but not as frequently as I attend other clubs.

Last week seen:

Abi. Anka. Adriana. Angelina. Anita. Anjelica. Anni. Annika. Bella. Cosmina. Crystal. Daisy. Daria. Emma. Estra. Evelyn. Francesca. Gina. Helen. Hannah. Helli. Ira. Ivy. Jessica. July. Karina. Lara. Leonie. Liana. Melanie. Mila. Morena. Patricia. Scarlet. Siana.

Sidonia. Selena. Sonja. Vera. Viorica. Xiomara. Yellis. Zeynep. Mandy. Lara. Kimberly. Xiomara. Marina. Nina1 und 2. Ayleen. Elektra. Anjellica. Damina. Mia. Dea. Hanna.

Kelly or ex Helli is back in business.

According to her clicks on German board, she is the most popular girl in sharks.

For all her fans, she probably won't stay that long.

The girls pay 100€ entrance and 20€ more if they sleep upstairs.

So 120€ everyday, when they work. And 20€ if not working.

Its not easy for the girls at all. And 50€ is really "cheap" for the quality.

Compare to the cost in other countries.

I think Germany has 1 of the best price / performance and its legal.

Really not all girls go home at the end of the with "plus".

For a lot regular German customers, its a race for" who get more service for 50€ From the girl".

And they compare the girl / price with 10 years ago.

But its good for us, because when there is no 50€ then there will be no 100€ (got it?

I hope we don't join this "race".

And the new law this year didn't impact the price yet.

But it will soon or later.

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2244954]Sharlet[/QUOTE]I mistype the name, it was Scarlet not Sharlet, that I had two very nice sessions with.

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2244954]The first was a new arrival with curly dirty blond hair with large pretty eyes. I think the things that made her stand out to me were her nicely trimmed full Bush and super nasty attitude which played into my mindset at the moment. She said arrived from Finca.[/QUOTE]I saw her first time last Wednesday, must have been her first or second day at Sharks. She was pretty busy processing one guy after the other. Heard from fellow mongers that her name in Sharks is Tamaris (or Tamara).

[QUOTE=PokerWiesBaden;2245003]The girls pay 100 entrance and 20 more if they sleep upstairs. So 120 everyday, when they work.[/QUOTE]They pay at least 125 Euro now, because they have to pay additional 5 Euro for condoms every day (condom compulsory fee).

One more thing: do you ask for permission from those people who publish the info in German fora like Lustscout, when you obviously copy and paste full or partial lineup reports from there to this international forum? What is your motivation to adorn yourself with borrowed plumes.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2245078]One more thing: do you ask for permission from those people who publish the infos in german fora like Lustscout, when you obviously copy and paste full or partial lineup reports from there to this international forum? What is your motivation to adorn yourself with borrowed plumes.[/QUOTE]I was in shark last week Monday, Tuesday and Sunday.

I did see a lot girls! The lists on lustscout was just a help to remember all those names.

But the list was not complete, I add all other girls, I have seen.

I'm sure the lineup list will help some reader here.

Just because you can read German, doesn't mean all others here know it either.

And what is your motivation? Being 1 of those 50€ guy?

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2245078]One more thing: do you ask for permission from those people who publish the infos in german fora like Lustscout, when you obviously copy and paste full or partial lineup reports from there to this international forum? What is your motivation to adorn yourself with borrowed plumes.[/QUOTE]Your comment wasn't directed at me but I have a couple questions. Do you think it helps if someone posts a larger lineup list? I'm curious because I do this occasionally for another club that I frequent. To me it's a way to let other mongers know which ladies are likely to be seen. In two days I can probably list 20 or more of the ladies I met, even though I couldn't remember two of those I sessioned. Names to face recognition is a habit from meeting masses of people during business meetings, and mongering is just another type of business meeting. Of course there are some ladies whose names that I will never remember.

I think if I were to spent four weekends in Sharks my list of names would be 60-80 long. It's more difficult with so many women buzzing rapidly around your head all day and not being able to have my phone with me to take notes and check them off as I've seen them. It's much harder after the fact to try and replay the night to remember who you did and didn't see. If veteran mongers see no benefit then I would stop posting such a list at a club where I'm a regular.

Hi,

Any guys know whether Elf and Amelia are still working in the club or not? Will they be present there in the coming 2 weeks? Many thanks.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2245078]One more thing: do you ask for permission from those people who publish the infos in german fora like.....motivation to adorn yourself with borrowed plumes.[/QUOTE]Information like a list of the line-up is of general importance and therefore it's not a crime to copy from one board to another (especially not in case the guy was in the club the same day. Personally I never could remember the names of all the girls and even don't know all the girls). In case you copy & paste a complete content using a translator tool it should be of your own origin. By the way. I also copy sometimes my German board reviews into the French board.

[QUOTE=HondaFans;2245110]Hi,

Any guys know whether Elf and Amelia are still working in the club or not? Will they be present there in the coming 2 weeks? Many thanks.[/QUOTE]Nobody is able to tell if a girl is working in 2 weeks even she doesn't know what she will do the next day.

Anyone know how much a taxi from Heidelberg would cost? I will visiting there later this month on business and was thinking of sneaking in what would be my first trip to an FKK. I won't have a lot of time, so thinking a taxi would be my best option. Also, what percentage of the girls smoke? Not a big fan of the smell of cigarettes.

[QUOTE=PokerWiesBaden;2245088]I did see a lot girls! The lists on lustscout was just a help to remember all those names.

But the list was not complete, I add all other girls, I have seen.

I'm sure the lineup list will help some reader here.[/QUOTE]I weighed in with my question to Nick The G, now I offer feedback to you. As a list guy myself, it takes a lot of effort, especially at a club the size of Sharks. If someone on another Forum wants to re-use my efforts elsewhere then I feel it's propper etiquette to ask permission in person if they know me or at a minimum give a shout out, recognizing the effort that others put into creating the list. Also, as a list guy, organization is key. Maybe I'm the result of when a Geek discovers Mongering, maybe it's a sign of age and now I require too much time to recover between sessions, possibly using my visit to a club as a brain exercise, but I for sure practice order of some sort when reporting the list. If someone else wants to use a list I create, I appreciate if they maintain the order I started with or re-order in some logical way. My first lists were created based chronologically when I met ladies or when I recalles meeting them. The first time I re-used that data from a prior post I re-organized to alphabetical order. I do make mistakes, usually when I freehand the list. Occasionally I'm bored and switch to alphabetically decending to see if anyone else is reading. Another etiquette would be, if someone else maintains a list on the club on a forum site, it's best to leave the complete list to them and focus on your highlights.

I by no means am an expert on Sharks, so my approach to my report was different than it would have been on my home turf. I tried to inform others who are unfamiliar with the club, report my initial impression, ladies I sessioned with, I reported ladies who stand a few cm above the rest, a lady who may meet specifics desires and the most obnoxious lady I met there. A list I would be interested in is which ladies participate in S&M, which are dominant and which are submissive.

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2245104] Do you think it helps if someone posts a larger lineup list? I'm curious because I do this occasionally for another club that I frequent. To me it's a way to let other mongers know which ladies are likely to be seen. If veteran mongers see no benefit then I would stop posting such a list at a club where I'm a regular.[/QUOTE]I consider myself to be in the category of "veteran mongers" having been doing this over 30 years! Let me say this loud and clear: for occasional / tourist visitors, lists are a fantastic resource and I don't care if they've been pinched off other sites I don't visit or not. The publication of a list on any forum does not come with a copyright attached so no permission to republish is needed.

For years Syzergies used to publish long lists of girls seen at Sharks and Oase, and even more helpfully, with details to identify them. Breast sizes, shapes, heights, tattoos, hair colours etc.

It is hugely beneficial to know that several mongers have had great experiences (or not) with particular girls. I've had guys in the Spanish forums tell me that they follow my posts and try the girls I've said are good. To such an extent that if I find a new peach guys will make a deliberate journey to session with them. So far I've never had any complaints about those reviews.

So for anyone inclined, and / or capable of publishing lists of girls, descriptions, and ratings of experiences, please do NOT be put off. For a lot of us, those lists have proven a terrific guide. I've printed them off and studied them on planes before now on the way to FKK land and so much so that when I've got to a club I've been able to identify several girls and know something about what they will and won't do and how they were rated.

I miss the Syzergies lists!

[QUOTE=Momosa;2243151]Hello guys!
I arrived at around 4-5 PM. I forgot to mention in other reports that I bought a week ticket for all of Frankfurt. 25 Euro for 1 week to go wherever I want whenever I want etc.

Took a taxi from Darmstrad to FKK sharks and payed 11 euro.[/QUOTE]Thanks for all your reports and the recommendation of Mila last night, she was great.

I had actually read all your reports before meeting you at Sharks last night. Didn't realise it was you until I got home though and reread the posts about Arya.

As a fellow newbie to the FKK, your reports helped a lot.

It would have been great if we met earlier, the experience is a lot more fun if you have some people to talk to in between sessions I think.

Just a heads up on the Frankfurt train ticket cost. The weekly 25 euro ticket only covers the Frankfurt areas closer to the city, it is region 3. Darmstadt is region 5 so it is a more expensive ticket, about 16.5 euro for a daily ticket.

I found the bus from Darmstadt to be easy, as well as walking 15 minutes from Darmstadt-Nord so never had to take a taxi from the station.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2245078]"copy paste bullshit"[/QUOTE]Actual reports of girls and line-up lists is the only piece of information I seek when I visit ISG. I am sure some find great enjoyment in letting a simple question about how to get to Sharks turn into a 20 post discussion about train rerouting and car hire, I do not count myself amongst them. I would love it if reports and line-up lists were separated from the rest of the general discussion here, so one does not have to sift through 10 pages of uninteresting posts to find the few tidbits that are worth reading.

[QUOTE=HondaFans;2245110]Hi,

Any guys know whether Elf and Amelia are still working in the club or not? Will they be present there in the coming 2 weeks? Many thanks.[/QUOTE]I saw Amalia last Monday and talk to her personally.

I think her sister is also there, but no guarantee.

I was in a room with this Romania girl (Aren't they all Romania). She said her name is Lori (my guess), Sat next to SM and Massage room facing one side of fish tank. Dark hair with not typical Romania face (sort of mix of Euro-Asia), Perky a-B cup. Is she Laura or Lori or?

[QUOTE=PokerWiesBaden;2245088]Just because you can read German...[/QUOTE]Thanks. I appreciate you recognized it.

With regards to the "50 Euro". Yes, if I am there on a Wednesday, I pay 50 Euro for the entrance like most others too.

By this time, I recognised that writing this report takes longer than I thought.

After I answered my phone call in the locker room, I come out and the girl 1 was still there probably waiting for me.

But I looked at her with a smile and went left side the bar, while she was right side of the bar.

I guess this is clearly sign, that I don't want go with her (now).

I still was trying to order some drinks, but the barkeeper seems all busy and were not very happy / friendly.

I waited little bit, but still no barkeeper come to me.

While 2 girls approaching me again. Because they were not my type, quick, Hello," and quick, no" but with, thanks".

Wohhh nice attitude, those 2 girls even left with a smile in their face, I could see in there face, that they were not happy about my no thanks", but they still (tried) to smile while leaving.

OK now I start to get impatient, I want something to drink!

I shouted out quite loud to a barkeeper.

, do you have time? I would like to order a cocktail" of course very nice voice.

And see. It works. She comes over took my key, no caipirinia no long island no white Russian no no no.

Only hugo and aprerol schwis or so.

And again the barkeeper seemed annoyed, so I quickly order 1 hugo with a lot alcohol.

After finally having my drink, I search for 1 free place to sit.

Girl 2 (I don't write names, because all 3 girls we talked about the ISG, don't want their names mentioned on here).

Is it because their BF could make them trouble?

Well girl 2 was very cute in face but a little big ass for me, since I only like 32 to 34 size.

Also she asked me if I was first time in club, this time, I said yes, I'm a tourist. You like tourist?

She smiled and told me that she is a Chinese specialist. I asked why, she said „they are nice, friendly and have respect for the girls" puhhh wtf fuck! All Chinese out there who read this! (Girls like assholes! Not nice boy!

I said to her, you just take out yourself.

She: what? Why?

Me: you just said you like my easy money. Because I'm a Chinese!

She: no. No no nooooo. I like you.

I guess she says this a lot and was not prepared for my reaction.

Me: I give you another chance, tell me some nasty stuff.

She: I fucked all Chinese here already today! Only you are left.

Me: LOL if you fucked them all, then you probably know what I like.

She: very confident, love" !

Me: no nooo.

She smiled and hugs me and kissed me.

Me: not just love!

I want real love.

I want faked real love.

I want overplayed faked real love.

Understand?

She: big eyes opened starring at me with the, I can do it smile".

But at least 1 hours or half hours with extra.

Me: I have 6000€ budget for 3 days and you can take as much as can, but you must earn it.

Then we went to the room upstairs, very nice those bedsheets, we took maybe 5 or 6 sheets.

Lederbed and sheets on it, really better than I thought.

Feels clean and and save. After prepared our bed, she asked me if she can go to the bathroom.

I was thinking, why now? Wasting time? Why not before.

Of course I said yes. But was not very happy about that.

I wait 5 min and almost started to doubt that I might chose the wrong girl.

After she come back, and was ready, I hug her and kissed her and ask her to show me her watch.

We read the time together, so no misunderstanding for me and her, that the time is starting now, and not before.

After went to the bed and had DFK, touching each other, very close body to body contacts.

Felt good, very good, really very good. My little friend was so horny and we fucked in all positions.

Missionary, dog, lying dog, ridding, ridding on feet. Damn I could comes after 3 min fucking, but I could extent to 15 min fucking her.

At that time it was exactly 30 min, and I was think, what I shall do now.

Option 1 : going out and pay 50 euro? Noway, don't want get trouble with the girl, since she said she do GFE for at least 100 euros.

And she was really nice and sweet, no upsells at all.

Option 2: give her 100 and going out? Wft waste my time instead go look for other beauties.

Option 3: staying until 1 hour with cuddle or blowjob?

Maybe now I understand why so many people want 50 euro sessions, because its enough.

And 50 euro is really fucking cheap for such a girl with such a behaviour and service.

Even outside in discos you need more money to convince girls, and then you never get fuck immediately.

Maybe after couple more dates, with of course presents and other expenses.

OK options 3 , since I need time to recover anyways to fuck other girls.

I asked her to give me slow blowjob, and wohh, after 15 more minutes my little wake up again.

She asked if I want fuck again, but I denied and just wanted to cuddle.

After 1 full HR, we recycled all those sheets and went down.

I gave her 100 euro and she thanked me and my first FKK room was done.

I will continue writing when I have more time, sorry readers but got meetings.

[QUOTE=HondaFans;2245110]Hi,

Any guys know whether Elf and Amelia are still working in the club or not? Will they be present there in the coming 2 weeks? Many thanks.[/QUOTE]I asked a colleague and found out that Elif and Amalia are sure to return to the club. Probably from about mid-November.

Just to set the record straight: the great Syzygies was actually continuing / bringing back to life the frequent presentation of LU lists that was first started on ISG-FKK Club section by the lengendary poster "Basketcase", who unfortunately departed us some years ago (but if you believe in re-incarnation maybe he's still with us at least in spirit?) But the first to start posting quality and inspiring lists here was BC, and Syz picked up after BC passed into the afterlife. Credit where it's due.

Secondly, I find it slightly amusing to read that some will say (in reference to Romanian girls lying / misrepresenting their land of origin by claiming to be from Spain, Italy or wherever): "Who cares where the girl's from as long as she gives great service in the room, that's all that matters. " But when it comes to posting a very useful and informative list suddenly the origin of that list is important? This is the Internet, man, not a Ph.D dissertation defense, so copy and pasting from other sources is an automatic feature of our landscape.

To me it's important to note that the list was posted with good intentions and, I speculate, was never intended to be comprehensive. For example, I can name a few prominent Sharks girls not mentioned on that list who were in attendance last week: Marlyn (Philippines), Paloma, Catalina to name a few. I am sure there are others not on the list as well.

But the point is: Many of like LU lists, no matter where they come from and find them perhaps the most useful type of post anyone could offer us. Keep 'me comming!

[QUOTE=Ortos;2245396]Just to set the record straight: the great Syzygies was actually continuing / bringing back to life the frequent presentation of LU lists that was first started on ISG-FKK Club section by the lengendary poster "Basketcase", who unfortunately departed us some years ago (but if you believe in re-incarnation maybe he's still with us at least in spirit?) But the first to start posting quality and inspiring lists here was BC, and Syz picked up after BC passed into the afterlife. Credit where it's due.[/QUOTE]LBC's early reports were the catalyst for my first FKK trip almost 10 years back. Myself and a friend actually printed them off (before smartphones) and used them as tour guides.

As you say, credit where it's due.

LU reports are always appreciated. So please continue.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2245349]By this time, I recognised that writing this report takes longer than I thought.

After I answered my phone call in the locker room, I come out and the girl 1 was still there probably waiting for me.

But I looked at her with a smile and went left side the bar, while she was right side of the bar.

I guess this is clearly sign, that I don't want go with her (now).

I still was trying to order some drinks, but the barkeeper seems all busy and were not very happy / friendly.

I waited little bit, but still no barkeeper come to me.

While 2 girls approaching me again. Because they were not my type, quick, Hello," and quick, no" but with, thanks".

Wohhh nice attitude, those 2 girls even left with a smile in their face, I could see in there face, that they were not happy about my no thanks", but they still (tried) to smile while leaving.

OK now I start to get impatient, I want something to drink!

I shouted out quite loud to a barkeeper..[/QUOTE]In disco you will get real woman, not prostitutes who are fucked 10 or more times every day. I prefer 100 times a so so girl from a disco than a top prostitutes in a FKK.

[QUOTE=PokerWiesBaden;2245003]The girls pay 100 entrance and 20 more if they sleep upstairs.

So 120 everyday, when they work. And 20 if not working.

Its not easy for the girls at all. And 50 is really "cheap" for the quality.

Compare to the cost in other countries.

I think Germany has 1 of the best price / performance and its legal.

Really not all girls go home at the end of the with "plus".

For a lot regular German customers, its a race for" who get more service for 50 From the girl".

And they compare the girl / price with 10 years ago.

But its good for us, because when there is no 50 then there will be no 100 (got it?

I hope we don't join this "race".

And the new law this year didn't impact the price yet.

But it will soon or later.[/QUOTE]Now in most of German clubs, girls have to pay 5 € for condoms, but better to have to pay 105 for girls entry than 195 as was written + 20 to sleep, furthermore with cheap business from everything for 50 € guys, which made best girls leaving: Karin, my mid June top class girl nobody never named, Katalina and Megan now having business for 130/30 mn at Globe.

Is your Marina, Latvian real woman who is what was quality at Sharks when was on top? Is Svenja. Ro still at Sharks?

Debora. Ro is a really nice woman in bed with no upselling.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2245396]Just to set the record straight: the great Syzygies was actually continuing / bringing back to life the frequent presentation of LU lists that was first started on ISG-FKK Club section by the lengendary poster "Basketcase", who unfortunately departed us some years ago (but if you believe in re-incarnation maybe he's still with us at least in spirit?) But the first to start posting quality and inspiring lists here was BC, and Syz picked up after BC passed into the afterlife. Credit where it's due.[/QUOTE]As far as I know eastern spiritual traditions claim that sex addiction is one of the causes for re-incarnation through a womb. So don't worry, the guy who once called himself London Basketcase is still touring the clubs, I have seen him several times at Sharks. Of course it is his good right to write under a different name nowadays. IMO he has learned his lesson well from his first naive joyful and painful forum "incarnation" when confronted with his self created Karma.

[QUOTE=DingoBrax;2245284]Actual reports of girls and line-up lists is the only piece of information I seek when I visit ISG. ......
I would love it if reports and line-up lists were separated from the rest of the general discussion here, so one does not have to sift through 10 pages of uninteresting posts to find the few tidbits that are worth reading.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Ulver;2245442]LU reports are always appreciated. So please continue.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Citizen Kane;2245424]LBC's early reports were the catalyst for my first FKK trip almost 10 years back. Myself and a friend actually printed them off (before smartphones) and used them as tour guides.

As you say, credit where it's due.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=PayForIt;2245260]I consider myself to be in the category of "veteran mongers" having been doing this over 30 years! Let me say this loud and clear: for occasional / tourist visitors, lists are a fantastic resource and I don't care if they've been pinched off other sites I don't visit or not. The publication of a list on any forum does not come with a copyright attached so no permission to republish is needed.[/QUOTE]We are all looking forward to your first line-up lists.

I really wonder: if so many people here say line-up lists are the most important thing to them but yet they themselves don't deliver. Why should others do this job for them? Again, why?

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2245505]We are all looking forward to your first line-up lists.

I really wonder: if so many people here say line-up lists are the most important thing to them but yet they themselves don't deliver. Why should others do this job for them? Again, why?[/QUOTE]You won't be getting any LU lists from me Nick. I said I was a tourist. Most tourists simply do not know enough girls in the clubs to be able to produce more than maybe 10 names on any day. For regulars to these clubs (and by that I mean at least once per week) they get to speak to a lot of girls and start to remember their names. Those of us who visit far less frequently, we are so excited to be surrounded by so many naked women 😍that the next day its hard to remember 4 names of girls you sessioned with let alone name, and describe the other 30 you might have spoken to (if that)!! So short of walking around with a pen and pad, or mobile phone (that would be hilarious but wouldn't last long! I'm afraid those of us not fortunate to make multiple visits don't get to know the girls names that well.

But this is PRECISELY why it is invaluable to receive such information from those able and willing to post their lists.

You ask why anyone should do this. It's a fair question. I've asked it myself. I hope that the reason is a genuine desire on the part of frequent visitors to impart their knowledge and experiences to other like-minded mongers. Isn't that the whole principle of this forum? The sharing of information for gain amongst those with reciprocal interests? So when I go to an FKK, more often than not, I will report on my experience. I'll name girls, comment on their service, describe them, encourage others to either try or avoid them. It's the most I can offer. I do it to help others but also because I'm grateful to all of those members who have posted comments, advice, or yes..... Lists...... that I have benefited from. So I try to do what I can in return to contribute. It's not as good as a list but I'm hopeless at remembering all the names and am in awe of the guys who can do so. But then if I went to Sharks say 10 nights in the next 30 I'm confident I'the known 80% of the girls and would indeed produce a list. I'll never be able to do 10 nights in a year let alone in 30 days. So I'll never know the LU well enough to publish a list.

We are almost in December. 'Tis the season to be jolly and give glad tidings. I give glad tidings and mega thanks to those guys who take the time to sit and create a list and put it up for me and others to benefit from. Long may that reign. I don't question their motives. I don't ask others to produce their own lists. I'm just very happy that some generous guys do and we ought to be applauding them not criticising them even if they did republish from elsewhere on the net. It matters not. I might not have seen other forums, I might not have been able to translate them without hassle. I'm very pleased about the kind sharing of information. You might not need the lists Nick. For sure I can get by without them, but its indisputably helpful to have a recent LU list and so to all of those guys who do produce them, independently, or via other forums and cut and paste. A hearty WELL DONE. And THANKS. And to echo the sentiments of others. Keep them coming.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2245503]As far as I know eastern spiritual traditions claim that sex addiction is one of the causes for re-incarnation through a womb. So don't worry, the guy who once called himself London Basketcase is still touring the clubs, I have seen him several times at Sharks. Of course it is his good right to write under a different name nowadays. IMO he has learned his lesson well from his first naive joyful and painful forum "incarnation" when confronted with his self created Karma.[/QUOTE]Yes, I had similar thoughts a few years ago whilst smoking several doses of "medicinal" opium (purely for research purposes, you understand), but then I found out (from extremely reliable sources, mind you) that the poor bugger actually died of a heart attack whilst having sex with 7 girls (or was it 6?) simultaneously.

So you must be mistaken, Nick, in believing the man still lives: he's dead, I tell you, he's checked into the FKK in the sky. Let him RIP. Only his spirit haunts Sharks now.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2245505]We are all looking forward to your first line-up lists.

I really wonder: if so many people here say line-up lists are the most important thing to them but yet they themselves don't deliver. Why should others do this job for them? Again, why?[/QUOTE]I never mentioned line-up lists. They don't interest me in the slightest. LBC's reports introduced me to the concept of FKK and the logistics of it. That's all.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2245316]Thanks. I appreciate you recognized it.

With regards to the "50 Euro". Yes, if I am there on a Wednesday, I pay 50 Euro for the entrance like most others too.[/QUOTE]I wish I lived close enough to be there tomorrow and be a €50 guy. I found a lit of very attractive ladies but had to pace myself because I still had four days of clubs left when I arrived last week. I'm debating adding a sharks weekend once per month. I appreciate all reporting and follow multiple forum sites. One thing I like about ISG is being able to read before signing up. The site you recommended earlier has some female specific reports I'd like to read that are closed to non authenticated members. Now I'm debating signing up for another two sites to see what others are writing. I like when a site has the club and then the list of WGs with details about offerings and performance usually under her name.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2244707]Sometimes you have no idea how these girls think. Guys think, hey I am taking all your available time. Be with me and here is this minimum wage money for your time at 100 bucks a hour. The girls like Dina want to make money but do it with the least amount of effort as possible. Common sense.

You offer a perfectly fine business proposition of 800 euros from 9 pm to closing at 5 am to cover 8 hours of room time, but she thinks that is too much effort. Dina prefers to go with the three other customers since she could probably do one hour each with them for 200 to 250 euro making just as much for far less effort on her part. Common sense.

Love the reports Unca Ox.

As for the budget of 800 euros for one girl then that just seems common sense as well.[/QUOTE]Hi Bitumen,

Thank you for your nice words and comments to my reports.

Actually I didn't tell Dina directly that I budgeted 800 euro to book her until closing. I simply said I would like to offer her a session as much time as she wants. If she knew I would give her 800, she probably would change her mind to go with me.

That day was her last day at Sharks. Dina told me that most likely she would not come back any more. So I decided to offer her a long farewell-session and would like to be her last customer of Sharks.

Well, it didn't work out. LOL.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2245520]but then I found out (from extremely reliable sources, mind you) that the poor bugger actually died of a heart attack whilst having sex with 7 girls (or was it 6?) simultaneously. So you must be mistaken, Nick, in believing the man still lives: he's dead, I tell you, he's checked into the FKK in the sky. Let him RIP. Only his spirit haunts Sharks now.[/QUOTE]If the story is not true, it might be well invented. Nowadays we call it fake news.

I remember him telling me in those days long gone at FKK-World, that he was writing up all the information to recall it when he would be old and retired. I asked him if his eyesight would be bad then and he answered, then somebody could read it for him.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2245517]You won't be getting any LU lists from me Nick. ........[/QUOTE]I knew you would argue along that line.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2245517]I said I was a tourist.[/QUOTE]Most of us are tourists. But don't forget: tourism tends to ruin the places it loves!

Thanks to anyone who post lineups, no matter the source.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2244783]I would pay 800 only if the girl stays 24 hrs with me. Even then, it has got to be a special girl. In reality, at my age today I am not likely to have sex for more than a couple of hours with the girl, especially if it is one single girl I am staying with the whole time. It is true I do multiple sessions in a single day when in a club, and if I tally up all the hours they might add upto 3 to 4 per day. But is also probably true that my libido is working extra time because I am channeling multiple girls which adds to the excitement. ANd of those 3 to 4 hrs of session time, the hard pounding sex is 60 to 90 min tops. Now, if I engage a single girl for 24 hours, even with multiple cummings, it is very unlikely that the actual BJ+fuck times will exceed 90 to 120 min. Perhaps 150 min if I have and't had sex in a few days.

Which means the remaining 500+ EUro is being paid for cuddling, kissing, enjoying her company, or just to feel good because you paid your fav girl.

P.S.: Bitumen, good to see you back. Hope all is well with you.[/QUOTE]Jnpr30,

Good point. I agree with your analysis. In those long sessions (2-8 hours) I had before, usually I was not able to engage sex for more than 1 hour. So the rest of time was for cuddling girls and chatting. Little by little, I realize that some girls might not like long sessions anymore. They prefer upsellings to improve hourly productivity or ask for big tips.

In Dina's case, I planned to offer her a long farewell session because I thought it would be her last session in her career time. Actually 800 E might not be enough to cover 8 hours of her time with considering extra tips and birthday gift. I think final bill would go up to 1000 euro.

Fortunately, Dina rejected me. Money was still in my pocket. Then I got to know [B]my dream girl [/B]later. We had 8 sessions together with spending 10 hours in the room in the following 6 days. I believe that was the happiest experience I ever got in my FKK history. The same one thousand euro.

BTW, Thank you for posting my reports on "Links to Reports of Distinction". I enjoyed reading your previous wonderful reports too. Look forward to see your new reports.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2244707]You offer a perfectly fine business proposition of 800 euros from 9 pm to closing at 5 am to cover 8 hours of room time, but she thinks that is too much effort. Dina prefers to go with the three other customers since she could probably do one hour each with them for 200 to 250 euro making just as much for far less effort on her part. Common sense.
Love the reports Unca Ox.[/QUOTE]Or maybe it is just that, on that particular night, Dina felt that her feet would not be able to survive being tickled or licked for 8 hours?

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2245505]I am looking forward to your first line-up lists..[/QUOTE]Corrected your spelling mistake for you. You are the only one criticizing PokerWiesBaden for relaying information from another forum.

I've done three visits to Sharks, and posted a line-up list from my most recent one. I'm sure a line-up list is easily missed in this thread though, considering the vast amount of general discussion that goes on. On my first visits I seldom took the time to chat to any girl I didn't plan to take to the room. I have however posted reports of every girl I took to a room.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2245564]Or maybe it is just that, on that particular night, Dina felt that her feet would not be able to survive being tickled or licked for 8 hours?[/QUOTE]For sure not sensual woman type, even she has the look, but not in bed for deep licking foreplay, licking her body, she is too professional under control, not really interesting in bed compare to some Romanians who are the best for these games. A pretty woman, but really not a queen for love in bed for me. So far below Roberta. Ro who was a extreme fire in bed, or extreme GF Jana. Hu. No regret, and I m sure she knows where to make money when she needs to pay bills, she already returned.

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2245531]So I decided to offer her a long farewell-session and would like to be her last customer of Sharks..[/QUOTE]I don't know you or the lady so I'm sorry if I offend you with my attempt at comedy. I hear the best comedy has a ring of truth, so I will try hard to be funny.

I can imagine that a popular lady could create premium pricing by saying she was leaving the business or relocating, let's say to someplace like Dubai. She could also create a rush of pre-bookings at this premium price. If it's her lasr day she may just want to party with her sisters.

Of course, if she shows back up the story will be something like:

1. I was leaving the airport in a taxi and he wrecked the car. I was in the hospital in a coma and when I regained consciousness my bag was there but my €250 k was missing. When I looked at my phone your number was the only one I could find. I need to start work again but don't have money, can you help me?

2. I had all my money and bought a house, but when I went to pay, the tax man came and asked where did the money come from and then took it all. Now I need €40 k to pay for the house, can you help?

4. I was sending money to my dad and he was supposed to be helping build my coffee shop. He started drinking and gambling and met a young prostitute and spent all my money. Can you help?

4. I went to Dubai where I made enough to pay all my debts in one month. My last week there these guys came, and we tried to run but they caught us. They said they were police and we had a choice, give them our money or go to jail for three years. Now I don't have the money to pay my debts, and the people I owe are really mean and scary. Help me?

I'm sure there are other stories about how WGs lost there retirement funds and had to return to the business. If Dina does return, I hope you get to be her first and I hope you smile and think of this if you receive the message. Help?

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2245630]I don't know you or the lady so I'm sorry if I offend you with my attempt at comedy. I hear the best comedy has a ring of truth, so I will try hard to be funny.

. . . . .
I'm sure there are other stories about how WGs lost there retirement funds and had to return to the business. If Dina does return, I hope you get to be her first and I hope you smile and think of this if you receive the message. Help?[/QUOTE]Interesting writing! No, you didn't offend me.

Actually, all I wrote here are just for fun. We don't take them seriously. LOL.

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2245255]As a list guy myself, it takes a lot of effort, especially at a club the size of Sharks. If someone on another Forum wants to re-use my efforts elsewhere then I feel it's propper etiquette to ask permission in person if they know me or at a minimum give a shout out, recognizing the effort that others put into creating the list. Also, as a list guy, organization is key.[/QUOTE]Well said, thanks a lot!

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2245548]I knew you would argue along that line.

Most of us are tourists. But don't forget: tourism tends to ruin the places it loves![/QUOTE]Firstly its not an argument to say I cannot post lists. Secondly, when tourists take over somewhere then leave the place often dies! I think what is clear Nick is that some of us benefit from lists (from whatever source) and the odd monger doesn't.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2235509]Anyway, I think I spotted who I think is Uncle Ox (but I may be wrong) yesterday afternoon in Sharks, so doubtless we will get fresh reports of his Princess Girl soon.
[/QUOTE]Very interesting! You spotted me on October 12 afternoon in Sharks? I don't remember any ISGer ever talked to me that day. It is a pity that we missed a chance to say Hi to each other. I would like to get to know famous ISG Members. You know, I read a lot of your informative reports before.

I am curious who told you I am UO? There are just four girls who knew my ISG user name. That afternoon, only Melanie was at the scene. Did she ever disclose my profile to you? LOL.

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2245630]I don't know you or the lady so I'm sorry if I offend you with my attempt at comedy. I hear the best comedy has a ring of truth, so I will try hard to be funny.

I can imagine that a popular lady could create premium pricing by saying she was leaving the business or relocating, let's say to someplace like Dubai. She could also create a rush of pre-bookings at this premium price. If it's her lasr day she may just want to party with her sisters.

Of course, if she shows back up the story will be something like:

1. I was leaving the airport in a taxi and he wrecked the car. I was in the hospital in a coma and when I regained consciousness my bag was there but my 250 k was missing. When I looked at my phone your number was the only one I could find. I need to start work again but don't have money, can you help me?

2. I had all my money and bought a house, but when I went to pay, the tax man came and asked where did the money come from and then took it all. Now I need 40 k to pay for the house, can you help?

4. I was sending money to my dad and he was supposed to be helping build my coffee shop. He started drinking and gambling and met a young prostitute and spent all my money. Can you help?.[/QUOTE]Blond Hungarian Dina is a long time professional, at least since 2013 at Sharks, she already said to retire, but returned, but a rare pretty face at Sharks now. She even made a "sister" Nicoletta for her business. Very professional.

When you noticed tall girls, you have Jane at home, or mine, or my previous, taller than 1,70 bare feet. Also Rose at GT.

Keeping to read all reports here Gents, is really interesting to see how the discussion is taking different shapes across the pages.

I feel I had to post my report from Oct 19th that was my second time at Sharks and even more amazing rather than first LOL) Maybe because I spent whole week-end there and had some nice sessions.

Before I jump into the report. Getting back to the 800 Eur subject mentioned by UncleOx, it happened that I spent some nice time with a girl last time and asked her, how much would cost to steal her tonight? She told usually if she goes overnight it costs 1 K at my hotel. Well, kinda pricey for me and I fast got the thing that well what we going to do that night? Maybe fuck 1-2 hours most and she would get bored, maybe hugging and other stuff than sleep? And in morning she leaves? I think we get a bit over psychological thing a bit, the moment when you want to fuck and the moment when you get too personal and sentimental and want to buy someone you feel good with for a day or two. Than she is gone. I don't feel it quite makes sense.

I think if we stick to places where we want to have fun, we should not pass the barrier because is easy to get into a money trap and than the stories will be telling you that the girls seduced you and took all money but not her. So, just to be careful with this aspect.

For same amount of money you can get more short term fun rather than with one and get disappointed at the end. That's my thought.

Back to October 19, I flew in Friday and got to the hotel, had plenty of time. Than around 7 I got to the Sharks which was not so crowded. The line-up was around 40 girls maybe?

I warmed-up a little bit got to the Sauna, than a bit of walk outside some cigarettes, was really enjoying the evening. I was thinking to chill more and than make some choices and have a couple of sessions.

The most remembering one, I was sitting on the coach and just enjoying the view. Than in front of me a short dark haired girl in glasses was arranging a towel on her and looking at me) She was petite cutie and got and sited near me and we started to talk. Her name is Venus, she is very pleasant and we clicked very well and went upstairs, I remembered that someone was describing her here and decided to go with her.

She started with a nice BJ, which was very nice and without any hurry than she got on top of me, I like the rooms with mirrors. You can see everything what's going on) that's ++ to facilities.

We also chatter for half an hour than gave another shot in missionary, I liked her overall and felt sympathy and it was not mechanic. Did anyone else went with Venus? How was it?

After I got back, I tried one more girl Elena I think she is brunette and has a tattoo on her back in form of a crown or something similar also wears a lace with her name letters. This girl is cute but not sure she is a good fit for the place, because we went to one of smaller rooms in back of the bar, it was a bit in a hurry and sometimes mechanic. I think in 10 min I was done with her, would not repeat.

Saturday was chill in the day, I came in the noon when there were more girls rather than guys. Maybe 25-30 . I did some Sauna again than relaxed on one of the beds not far from Sauna region, girls were coming one after another, some of them even lying near me and putting the hand under the robe and playing with my dick ahaha, that was fun. But I decided just to rest.

Later I had another session with a tall Romanian beauty with a doll face and nice see cups tits, starting black long hair. She was fine, 8/10 I liked her tits, they are see and natural and the way she talks is bit like in a hurry but that's just her style) I did missionary and a good BJ. Enjoyed it.

Feels 3 girls I tried out during that week-end, I saw some other nice ones but hope to try them out in my next visit. If anyone plans anything in Nov 23-26, PM me maybe we organize something interesting together.

Thanks for your reports gents!

The last part has been delayed for a week. I was waiting for my dream girl's permission to post it. She said OK yesterday.

Someone may have been tired of my tedious reports. This is the last part. Comments and questions are welcome.

Link to Part I.

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Lin to Part II.

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[B]Recollection of the past, autumn 2018 FKK tour, Part III.[/B]

(continued).

[B]Thursday, Sharks. [/B]

[B]Inka [/B]would take short leave soon and today would be last chance to meet her before I leave. After completed my daily work, I immediately headed to Sharks. There were about 30-40 girls at 5 PM. Today I'the like to give my lovely Inka a long and relaxing farewell session which I promised her, but she was not there. Later on a girl told me Inka had left this morning. So pity! I don't know if I have opportunity to see her any more.

[B]Ivana[/B] was roaming around. She is 20 years old brunette, petite size girl with A cup tits. Optic wise she is a cute girl I like. She approached me a few times before, but I had a concern. According to some recent reports, her service was not that super. However, she looks a little bit like my dream girl then I decided to give her a try. After a few minutes foreplay stimulation, we started to regular activities. 15 minutes later, Ivana lost patience and said "I can tell you don't like me". OK, I quit. I believed the session would last at most 20 minutes.

[B]Jennifer[/B] was sitting at bar. She called me a big liar, "I don't want to talk to you anymore". She felt resentful for I "forgot" to give her a 20th-birthday present two days before which I promised. She said she reminded me several times but I deliberately ignored it and kept taking other girls. I asked would she forgive me if I offer her a 1-hour-session. She then immediately took my hand and said let's go.

In the room I told Jennifer it would be hard for me to get climax after 6 days of FKK adventure. She mocked me "oh, you are indulgent and must have fucked all girls in the club". LOL. Jennifer is a fun girl, I was never angry at her. After 20 min very light interaction, I embraced her and chatted. I barely recalled what we talked as I went into daydreaming state again. When talking about a certain topic, Jennifer mentioned a WG one hour work sometimes could make more than 400 E. I asked how. She referred to 1-hour package with [B]DFK+BBBJ+GFE+BLS+DATY+CIM+anal + prostate massage or male ass hole licking[/B]. I asked who would accept such crazy upsellings. Jennifer said customers from somewhere would do, and they had fetish of prostate massage. I knew in Japan (or China), prostate message is usually called "tongue drill" or "poisonous dragon drill". Then she asked "do you want to try? It is very comfortable". I immediately stopper her attempt of performing the potential harmful service. When Jennifer told me that an Asian guy paid her 500 E for just one hour sex and 4-hour sleep, I swiftly got up from bed. I am poor and I could not afford such luxury sleep. It was almost an hour when we left room.

Now I recalled blonde Alexandra (in Betty's crew), once told me that she didn't want go with me because I only paid her 100 E but took almost full hour. It seems that customers as me who would decline any upselling but take a full hour in the room would not be attractive to WGs. I remember Jnpr30 did mention this fact in forum no long ago. But how about the 50 E guys?

[B]Estra[/B] (not Esther) approached me with very sweet smile. Estra, new girl, From Constanta, 20 yo petite slim brunette, is about 160 cm. She has been Sharks for 3 months, once worked in Acapulco. Someone guesses Estra might be my "dream girl" according to my report. Actually, it was very funny, at the first day of this visit, I mistakenly thought she was the girl I saw early afternoon, until I finally successfully spotted my dream girl and realized which girl was the true one I saw before and fell in love with. Because of this I did chat with her and she thought I should like her very much. But she turned to be very cold to me after she saw I took my dream girl (they usually sat at different ends of the same sofa). So tonight she initiatively came to talk to me did surprise me.

I asked her term and price. She said 100 E for one hour session. She claimed she was a simple and nave girl. Her cute face and slim body with nice be-cup tits did attract me a lot. I'the like to wait for my favorite room with shower but she insisted to take the hot humid room which was just available. OK, follow her. She looked at her E-watch when entering room and I saw it displayed 20:57. After a few min chat and foreplay we started main job. I found she was kind of bossy. Not allow this, not allow that, only CBJ, etc, many rules. However, her cutie face and sexy body did stimulate my desire to have sex with her. After minutes of moving fast in and out, she suddenly reminded there were only 10 minutes left. I looked at my watch and it was just 9:30 PM. I pointed out that we both looked at the time when entered the room. There was still 27 minutes left. She didn't agree with that. Then I said if it is your rule that 1-hours session means 45 min in room, I accept it as it, because I don't want to argue with girls. We both were silent. When I was ready to go, she gave in and asked me to stay until the full 1 hour I considered. I stayed, but the atmosphere was completely different. Both of us were carefully not to irritate each other. After Politely massaging her 10 min, We left room.

It was a pity. Estra is my type girl. Supposedly I would repeat as many sessions as possible with such cute girl. But now I am not sure if I would go with her anymore.

After 11 PM, wandering many rounds, I saw [B]Roxy[/B], my Sharks girlfriend, sitting on the long sofa under aquarium. I hadn't spent time with her since last Saturday. She always kept her good manner and never urge or request me to go with her.

I said to her "Sweetie, let us go to room. You don't need to do anything but like a girlfriend spending time with me". We went into a bright room and I cuddled her within my arms. I still wore robe and used towel to warp her tightly in case she would be cold. She asked me if I still remembered the snowy day in March. Of course I did. I said "since then I know you are a girl with beautiful soul". "I am a beautiful girl too" She replied with naughty and lovely tone. I held her as if I had returned to college age when I first time embraced my once lovely girlfriend. Gradually I felt I had strong desire. Then we quickly removed our covers and jumped into crazy love making. Unfortunately, after 20 minutes intensive activity, I started to heavily breathe and sweat. Then I knew it would be hard for me to finish. I apologized to her. She felt sorry too. But I told her I really enjoyed this session with her. Roxy would be out of club in the following two days. I said farewell to her. I felt little depressed for I don't know when I could see her again. My fair lady! [B]Roxy[/B] somewhat looks like young [B]Audrey Hepburn[/B].

[B]Friday, Sharks[/B]

I was off work and arrived in Sharks around noon. Met a few mongers I knew before. We then sat around bar, drinking and sharing some information. Meanwhile, I never stopped eyeing around German tables. There were about 4-5 girls there. I only recognized Leonie and Simai. There is a young tall girl might be Kimberly. After a while, [B]Mandy[/B] appeared. The beautiful blonde chick looks better than last week. I walked over and said Hello, to her. She became very friendly and humble. Mandy is not a strikingly beauty as we all know. However when I looked at her beautiful green eyes, a strong irresistible temptation and desire was aroused. I couldn't help but kissing her cheeks once. She smiled and knew I liked her. Under the attention of other girls, we hand in hand went upstairs. I got boner even before we entered the room. It was very funny. I hadn't achieved a climax since Wednesday. Of course she is very attractive too. I don't need to descript her wonderful service. In short, I finished in less than half of the time. Holding her in my arms continued to caress and kiss her. She joked if I want to sex again. I asked her why she seemed cold to me last week. She replied she wasn't rude to me but she felt that I didn't want to take her at that moment. Smart girl! We left room 5 min before an hour.

It was about 2 pm. I started to worry about one thing: the appointment with Queen [B]Helen[/B]. As I mentioned before that I booked 2-hour-session with her and would meet at 3 PM on Friday. Only one hour left for me to prepare to get ready. Helen had concern with my last unfinished session. She would tease me again if I could not display virile character to please her. But how could I recover from last indulgence in such short time? We all know that PDE-5 inhibitor only could help erectile but not for climax. At this scenario using it would only torture you organ without getting any happiness. So, I decided to pay her 2 hours easy session, simply sitting at sunny yard and drinking, if I was not ready for sex.

[B]Helen[/B] did not appear at 3 PM, neither at 4 PM. However, at 4:30 PM I began to hope she could show up soon because I thought I was ready for her. At 5 PM, she was still absent. I was [B]off the hook[/B]. I could take other girls now.

I saw a slim pretty blonde girl checking-in at front desk. She seemed to recognize me and smiled, so sweet. How could I forget her? She was the girl I looked forward to take but was blocked by others in my June visits. I could not believe that she not only recognized me but even started to flirt with me. Who was the girl? [B]Cosmina[/B]. Of course, this Cosmina is the new one, I called her [B]blonde Cosmina[/B], in order to distinguish her from our famous original Cosmina.

The very pretty [B]blonde Cosmina[/B] is just 18 yo for Romania, and started to work at Sharks in June. She once was mentioned by [B]Jnpr30[/B] in report as "long lost girl friend from 20 years ago". Although my feelings for her were not such deeply, she is still a very attractive girl to me, second only to Roxy, Inka and my dream girl. She knew I liked her since my last June visit. She did take this advantage to sell me threesome with her cousin for 1 hour session. Her cousin is pretty too but I had no mood to simultaneously handle two girls. She insisted. No deal. After that I still kept eyeing on her until her cousin went somewhere. I approached Cosmina again now she agreed to go with me. She said she didn't want to go up floor because of high heel shoes. I had to follow her to a room next SM room. It was hot inside. She then opened the fan.

[B]Blonde Cosmina[/B] was out of Sharks for weeks and just came back today. She preferred to stay in Sharks. After a few minutes of chat we started the routine. Honestly I like her face and body, and she is very fun to play with, but her service could not match the level of her beauty. After 30 minutes I knew there was no possible for me to finish. However I did want to spoil her and started to massage her. She quickly ran out of room without my permission and came back with a massage cream, demanding "professional" massage. She was so naughty, and she even put her feet on my face many times. She thought I like her feet. LOL. She requested me to repeat sessions at next day.

When we stood wallet locker area, I saw [B]Helen[/B] just walked out of lady's locker room and headed to bar. Since we saw each other, I couldn't pretend to ignore her. After paying Cosmina, I had to walk toward her. I asked if she remembered our 3 PM appointment, she replied now she remembered. She couldn't believe I waited for her since 3 PM because she saw I took Cosmina to room. I told her I wait until 5 PM. She said she is ready for me. Woo!

At the moment it was almost 7 PM. Sunny and warm afternoon had already gone. The dinning hall was like a noisy market and crowded with guys. It would be brainless to pay a girl 2-hours-easy-session, simply sitting at cold dark yard, or noisy trade fair without enjoying her beauty and service. So I had to find an excuse to postpone the event, after all it is Helen who missed the appointment. She said OK and asked me to find her later.

Some time later, I saw [B]Estra[/B], sitting on sofa under the main stairway, waved hand and made a gesture to me. I did recall last night unhappy session but her friendly and cutie face [B]made my heart soft[/B]. Maybe she didn't remember time correctly. Maybe she is a simple and nave girl as she claimed to be. Since I could forgive Lily and Corina, why not forgive Estra and give her another chance?

Almost at the moment when I was going to sit beside Estra, I suddenly saw [B]my dream girl[/B] wearing black lingerie, sitting at the other end of [B]same Sofa[/B]. Oh, my god, I could not take Estra in front of my dream girl because I knew there was issue between them. Actually I could take [B]neither[/B] of them at this moment. So I have to wave hand to both girls and left to bar for drink. I pretended that I didn't want to take any girl but watched them from distance.

A very old guy was then sitting between my two girls. He started to talk to both of them. It seemed he wanted to do threesome. I was ridiculous to have jealousy and even felt my own heartbeat. It seemed that [B]my dream girl[/B] didn't want to go with him because she point at me for him. Then the old guy focused on Estra. A few minutes after, I quietly walked over and took my dream girl's hand and said let us go. However while my dream girl stood up, the old guy also got up and walked away. Oh, it was a pity. I held my dream girl and was completely exposed in front of Estra. I could see the disappointment from her eyes. She turned her head away.

I held my dream girl's right hand and went upstairs. I didn't intentionally hurt Estra. I knew it was just coincidence.

[B]My dream girl[/B] told me that she noticed I seemed to be happy with blonde [B]Cosmina[/B]. I was shocked that she saw it and paid attention to the details. I was worried about her jealousy. However, she said she was very glad that I took Cosmina because they both are best friends. Woo! I was ecstatic. My dream girl told me that Cosmina is a very nice girl and help her a lot when she started to work months ago. At that time, Cosmina always took her to sell threesome to help her business. I looked at my dream girl and said "If you told me that Cosmina was you half-sister I would even believe you. " She said yes they are in essence a sisterhood now. Haha! My dream girl suggested me to take her and Cosmina together sometime. I promised her I would try in the future.

Although my organ was strong enough to pursue activity, I still hadn't recovered from the session with Mandy. Two hours passed quickly. Most of time in the room we lay together. I petted her gently and chatted with her. Wonderful girlfriend experience with this pretty teenage girl.

[B]Saturday, Sharks, last day of this trip[/B]

Arrived before noon. I wanted to to be as relaxed as possible for the last day of this trip. My plan was to take a few favorite girls only.

A very friendly blonde girl, sitting at bar, smiled at me. Actually in the past four days I saw she always smiles to me. I knew her. She is [B]Louise[/B]. But I was timid to approach Louise, because a girl I'the like to avoid was always around her. Since the girl was not around her at this point, I took Louise and headed to room.

[B]Louise[/B] is a super nice and service-oriented girl. Of course she is beautiful too. She asked me why I always ignored her even if she hinted me several times. I told her because she always sat around Melanie. I also told her that I was very scared of Melanie for she once claimed she would slam me if I approach. Haha. Louise couldn't believe that, but it was true.

Louise did a very good job although I held myself not to cum. The rest of half hour in room we talked a lot about other things, including some "secret" only known by me, her and two more other girls. Actually Louise and I had built a special relationship for this secret. I promised her I will repeat her more session if we meet next time.

[B]Cassandra[/B], the new girls I met this time, approached me again. It seemed that she didn't get much business in the past few days. She told me almost every day what she could make only covered the entrance fee. I sympathized with her very much. Actually she is a pretty girl. After she told me today was her birthday and she turned 20, I took her to room immediately. We barely had sex in room. I only want to help her a little bit especially today was her birthday.

[B]Blonde Cosmina[/B] approached me quite a few times with her cousin. She said I promised her before. I said yes but I want to take her only. She turned down my offer and insisted I should take her cousin as well. However, the only threesome I'the like to accept today would be pair of Cosmina and my dream girl. While my dream girl was not available at that moment, I have to reject her.

At 7 PM, [B]my dream girl[/B] came. But Cosmina was not around now. So I gave up idea of threesome and took my dream girl only. As making love with girlfriend, I kissed and played with her soft and sexy body again and again. It seems that each inch of her skin could stimulate my romance instinct. Very relaxing and enjoyable, I reached the strongest pleasure in about 45 minutes. Again we lay together. Unconsciously almost two hours passed.

It was about 10 PM at Saturday night. [B]Helen[/B] was sitting around bar. I felt a little bit guilty that I didn't take her to room yesterday. I was about to leave and could not fulfill my promise to her any more, but I still want to friendly say farewell to her. I said I would like to treat her as a lady. Then she said I should book her long session next time. Helen always looks very gorgeous. She is one of the few Romanian girls who can compete with Hungarian Dina. I like Helen more for her nice and friendly personality character.

[B]Betty[/B] kicked my ass twice and hit my back once when I walked past her territory under aquarium tonight. Because of her ambivalent behavior I sat by her and ask why she kicked me. She said that I passed their area hundreds of time, but was always arrogant and never take any girls from here. I turned my head and looked at her. Betty's school-girl face is pretty. She might be worth a two-hour-session. I was tempted but I knew today was not the right time. Then I promised that I would take her for an hour or two next time I visit. She nodded and told me she would leave soon because she didn't feel good today. 20 minutes later, she checked out at front desk. I went over to embrace her and say goodbye.

Later on [B]blonde Cosmina[/B] found me again, but it was near midnight. I told her I was very tired and would leave soon. She said "are you sure?" I swore that I didn't have mood to sex with any girl. She warned me that she would be very annoyed at me if I lied to her.

It was time but I was very reluctant to leave. I saw [B]my dream girl[/B] lying on the couch. I quietly walked over and tickled her arms. She sat up right away and asked if I was going to leave. I said yes. Then she said "Baby, I will miss you. Would you give me a room again before you leave?" I couldn't reject my beloved dream girl even if I already had spent 10 hours with her inside room during this trip. In the hallway, we happened to meet the [B]blonde Cosmina[/B] with customer just coming out of room. She screamed and pointed at me and shouted "Liar". It seemed she almost rushed to bite me. Cosmina said to my dream girl a few words in Romanian. In room my dream girl told me that Cosmina was mad at me because she thought I lied to her. I begged her to explain the situation to Cosmina later. My dream girl suggested to take Cosmina now. I dismissed the idea because I knew I would gain minimum from these threesome at this moment. But I still asked her to tell Cosmina I will compensate her next time. I wrapped her body and lay together like lovers, until I felt I should go.

This is the end of 9 consecutive days of paradise trip.

Sometimes, I was thinking why I wrote these? It is a short memoir for myself in order to remember these beautiful girls in the future. Oriental proverb "A thousand years of good prayers lead to sleep on same pillow". I have been with these fairy-like girls at their most beautiful moments which produced experience of happiness that will deeply inspire me. Time may pass quickly, but their moments of grad grace and beauty will be forever in my heart.

Dear all,

I am a newbie here. Sorry for asking for this silly question: Can I bring my own condom at Sharks?

Thank you very much!

Arrived at 11 am.

1) Roxy: 1325-1530,200 E. Rom, 21 yo, B-cup of good shape, long brunette, pretty, petite, passionate kisser, a member of team Betty, one year at Sharks. In a room 5 min caressing with her goose bumps on her thighs and around nipples, 15 min DATY with her quiet O, another 20 min DATY with her second quiet O, 10 min missionary with her own fingering leading her to the third quiet O, 30 min unsuccessful DATY, toilette break, my 15 min massage on her, her 6 min excellent, watery BJ, 7 min cowgirl, 7 min missionary. Must repeat.

2) Catalina: 1605-1750 (excluding 15 min as tip), 200 E, the first time in the past six months. In a room 15 min DATY with her big O, 25 min missionary with her intense enjoyment, 5 min BJ, 10 min pillow talk, my 25 min massage on her, 20 min missionary with her second O, 5 min pillow talk. Must repeat and actually I booked her for tomorrow.

3) Ester: 1845-1936 (excluding 9 min as tip), 100 E, the first time in the last one year. She requested orgasm as medicine for her headache, such a nice maneuver to get me. In a room 5 min caressing, 20 min DATY with her requested O, 4 min BJ, 5 min cowgirl, 5 min missionary, 2 min doggie and my 10 min massage on her. Repeat.

4) Yra: 2020-2250,250 E, the first time in the last three and a half years. In a room 25 min DATY with her O, 5 min toilette break, 10 min BJ, 30 min missionary with her second O, my 30 min massage on her, 15 min DATY with her third O and 15 min BJ. Must repeat and actually I booked her for tomorrow.

Left at 0:30 am.

Arrived at 1130 am.

1) Ezra (or Estra): 1400-1500,100 E. Rom, 20 yo, B-cup, long dark blonde, fairly pretty, petite, 160 cm, bad teeth, one month at Sharks. In a room 3 min caressing, 22 min DATY with her intense O, another 15 min DATY with my five digits in her pussy, 5 min missionary, my 15 min massage on her. Repeat. In the past I have put my three fingers in the pussy of Ramona at Oase, four in Claudia at Oase, then five in Erza, almost fist sex.

2) Gianna: 1535-1625,100 E. Rom, 22 yo having a three-year-old son, A cup, long black hair, tanned, pretty, slim as model, 174 cm, two months at Sharks after Globe, basically no kiss with customers even at Globe! In a room 5 min caressing, 15 min DATY, another 10 min DATY with my two digits in her pussy with her intense O, 3 min cigarette break, 5 min BJ, 12 min missionary. Repeat.

3) Loretta: 1830-1930,100 E. Rom, 26 yo, slightly saggy B cup, long brunette, fairly pretty, slim, model, 165 cm, five months at Sharks, can kiss even for 30 min 50 E sessions. In a room caressing, 23 min DATY with her O, 2 min BJ, 3 min cowgirl, 2 min missionary, 3 min flat doggie, 13 min combination of miss and DATY, and my 15 min massage one her. May repeat.

4) Catalina: 2025-2105,100 E & 50 E for CIM. The second session in this late autumn FKK tour. We made an agreement yesterday about her making me cum within one hour. In an ex-kino room, 40 min BJ with my first pop in this tour. Must repeat, actually I made a promise to make her cum again tomorrow. Left 2330, I'm sorry to find Yra and Cosmina so busy tonight too.

Left at 2300.

Arrived at 1130 am.

1) Catalina: 1220-1420,200 E, third session in this late autumn FKK tour. In a room 5 min caressing, 20 min DATY with her intense O, 20 min missionary with her intense enjoyment, 15 min break, my 25 min massage on her, 25 min DATY with her second intense O, 3 min BJ and so on. Must repeat.

2) Yra: 1520-1650,150 E, the second session in this late autumn FKK tour. In a room 10 min caressing, 20 min DATY with her O, 15 min missionary, 15 min pillow talk about ISG, my 30 min massage on her. Must repeat. Correction: her height is 163 cm, not 155 cm which I reported on Nov. 24 in 2014.

3) Lin: 1725-1825,100 E, Kenyan based in Berlin as translator, 31 yo, 161 cm, two weeks at Sharks. In a room 5 min caressing, 10 min DATY with her big O, 15 min unsuccessful DATY, her toilette break, 3 min excellent and watery BJ, 3 min cowgirl, 12 min missionary and 2 min doggie. She said she could have cum twice consecutively if her bladder had not been full, LOL. Must repeat.

4) Michelle: 1930-2100,150 E, Moldovan, 168 cm, pretty, slim, A-cup, long dark blonde, two and a half years at Sharks after one and a half years at World. In a room 5 min caressing, 25 min DATY with completely no reaction on her side, 10 min BJ, 10 min cowgirl, 5 min missionary, pillow talk about how to lead her to ecstasy and 5 min DATY as prep for our tomorrow's 3-hour lesson. She demanded three- or longer-hour sessions to kiss, but I am still wondering if I would really take the 3-hour lesson about her orgasm tomorrow. We will see.

Left 2230.

Arrived at 11 am.

1) Kelly: 1250-1410 (excluding 10 min as tip), 150 E, the first time in the past one year. In a room 5 min caressing, 25 min DATY with her intense O, 1 min BJ, 3 min cowgirl, 5 min missionary, pillow talk, my 10 min massage on her and 5 min BJ were what we enjoyed. Must repeat.

2) Zeynep: 1510-1605 (excluding 5 min as tip), Turkish able to speak Romanian, 22 yo, 148 cm, 38 kg, A-cup, long black hair, fairly pretty, one year at Sharks. In a room 5 min caressing, 30 min DATY with her big O, 8 min missionary and my 10 min massage on her were on our menu, oh I forgot to have BJ, LOL. Repeat.

3) Kassandra: 1700-1725,50 E+50 E (Anal and Erotic Massage), 20 yo Rom, 165 cm, tanned, long black hair, B / C-cup, fairly pretty, a friend of Vanessa, one month at Sharks, little English. Because of my physical conditions, I asked her to give 30 min session. In a room she started with erotic massage using massage oil on me, and then I asked her to fuck me in the cowgirl sex position. She intentionally put my member into her anal instead of pussy that I wanted, and then said "Let's enjoy anal sex". I disagreed saying that it's not fair, not the way it should be, I don't like anal in the first place, but she continued. Everything being done, she insisted that I should pay what I enjoyed, erotic massage, ass and sex. I retorted saying that I would pay only 50 E for 30 min, and if you're not satisfied, let's go to the reception to ask them how much I should pay. She didn't say anything and looked very sad. I felt a kind of guilty and she just looks like a little girl and pretty, so I finally proposed 100 E including everything as compromise. She tried to kiss me when I handed 100 E at the safe, but I refused it. Never repeat. Two days later she approached me and apologized to me saying she thought I loved anal because Vanessa (Kassandra's mentor) and I had talked about anal all the time and wanted to get me as a regular to provide erotic massage. Apology accepted.

4) Yra: 1835-2035,200 E, the third session in this late autumn FKK tour. In a room 10 min caressing, 10 min of combination of DATY and missionary, 20 min DATY with her quiet O, 10 min pillow talk, my 30 min massage on her, 10 min another talk and 20 min BJ making me fall asleep momentarily. Must repeat.

Left 2130.

Arrived at 11 am.

1) Tamaris: 1200-1300,100 E, Rom with unshaved under hair, 160 cm, semi-short brunette, pretty, B-cup, 2 weeks at Sharks after Finca Erotica, Oase and World. In a room 5 min caressing, 15 min DATY with her two small O's and big O, 8 min missionary, 7 min cowgirl, 10 min excellent BJ and my 10 min massage on her were what we enjoyed. Repeat.

2) Jazz: 1400-1500,100 E, Moldovan sitting next to Ivy in front of the staircase, 163 cm, long blonde, pretty, B-cup, 1 month at Sharks. In a room 8 min caressing, 15 min DATY with her big O, 15 min missionary with her three O's and 5 min BJ were what we enjoyed. Must repeat.

3) Serena: 1605-1735,150 E, the first time in the past six month. In a room 8 min caressing, 40 min unsuccessful DATY as the previous two sessions, 3 min mediocre BJ, 5 min cowgirl, 5 min missionary, 5 min BJ, my 10 min massage on her were what we enjoyed. Repeat.

4) Beyoncé 1830-1955,150 E+20 E for natural BJ, the first time in the past one year. In a room my 25 min erotic massage on her with her small O and big O, 15 min missionary, my 15 min massage on her and 10 min excellent BJ were what we enjoyed. Must repeat.

5) Vanessa: 2300-2355,100 E & 50 E for pussy licking the first time in the past six months. In a room 20 min DATY with her intense O, 2 min cowgirl, 1 min missionary and 25 min unsuccessful BJ without CIM were what we enjoyed. Repeat.

Left at 0030.

Arrived at 11 am.

1) Catalina: 1230-1420 (excluding 10 min as tip), 200 E, the fourth session in this late autumn FKK tour. In a room 5 min caressing, 20 min combination of alternate DATY and missionary with her most intense O she has ever experienced, my 25 min massage on her, my 5 min erotic massage on her, 20 min combination of alternate DATY and missionary with her second most intense O, 15 min pillow talk and 10 min BJ. I enjoyed the best missionary ever in my life with her in this session. Must repeat.

2) Jazz: 1430-1530,100 E, the second session in this late autumn FKK tour. In a room 8 min caressing, 2 min DATY, 5 min missionary with her O, 12 min DATY with her big O, 8 min missionary with her O, 10 min pillow talk and 5 min BJ. Must repeat.

3) Daniella: 1600-1645 (excluding 15 min as tip), 100 E, Moldovan sitting next to Jazz and her friends in front of the staircase, 175 cm, long platinum blonde, fairly pretty, A-cup, 1 month at Sharks after 1 year Palace. In a room 5 min caressing, 20 min unsuccessful DATY, 7 min good CBJ, 3 min cowgirl, 2 min doggie, and 3 min missionary. Not repeat.

4) MaiLing or Marlin: 2040-2230 (excluding 10 min as tip), 200 E. She was new in 2015, described as "from the Philippines. Speaks German very well. 29 years old, KF32,156 cm, A-Cups, the left nipple pierced, as well as the small smooth shaved pussy. Smooth half long dark hair, great solid body, pretty face, open style, white teeth, and dark complexion. On the hands you can see her age, not on the body, she would go through in her early 20's" in LSH. She was so talkative that I needed to continue to fuck her in the cowgirl and missionary position, lick and finger her pussy for more than one and a half hours to stop her talking. She enjoyed numerous orgasms in this session and I had the best cowgirl in my life. Must repeat.

Left at midnight.

Hi,

I am planning to go a 6 day tour with FKK tours. Can you advice me on these tours? Are they good? Value for money.

I had been to Mainhattan and palace myself in May this yr. But if have a tour guide and someone drive you around then it will be great. Keen to do it next year.

Please advice.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2246050]Arrived at 11 am.

1) Catalina: 1230-1420 (excluding 10 min as tip), 200 E, the fourth session in this late autumn FKK tour. In a room 5 min caressing, 20 min combination of alternate DATY and missionary with her most intense O she has ever experienced, my 25 min massage on her, my 5 min erotic massage on her, 20 min combination of alternate DATY and missionary with her second most intense O, 15 min pillow talk and 10 min BJ. I enjoyed the best missionary ever in my life with her in this session. Must repeat.

2) Jazz: 1430-1530,100 E, the second session in this late autumn FKK tour. In a room 8 min caressing, 2 min DATY, 5 min missionary with her O, 12 min DATY with her big O, 8 min missionary with her O, 10 min pillow talk and 5 min BJ. Must repeat..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2246050] (excluding ?? min as tip)[/QUOTE]Oh my, this is very creative tipping. I've finished my abdominal exercises for the day after reading this. Did you tell the ladies their tip was the unused time? I think my favorite would use a few swear words if I tried that. I would think that would be a good way to guarantee either a no repeat or horrible upselling during the next session with the same lady.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2246050]4) MaiLing or Marlin: ...described as "from the Philippines....
..... She was so talkative that I needed to continue to fuck her in the cowgirl and missionary position, lick and finger her pussy for more than one and a half hours to stop her talking.[/QUOTE]Marlyn is a very friendly person, always in a good mood when I meet her, very professional in a positive sense, service is great, she has a lot of energy, no question. But she talks too much. Way too much.

Maybe she only feels alive and save in this special environment as long as she hears herself talking.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2246042]Arrived at 11 am.

1) Roxy: 1325-1530,200 E. Rom, 21 yo, B-cup of good shape, long brunette, pretty, petite, passionate kisser, a member of team Betty, one year at Sharks. In a room 5 min caressing with her goose bumps on her thighs and around nipples, 15 min DATY with her quiet O, another 20 min DATY with her second quiet O, 10 min missionary with her own fingering leading her to the third quiet O, 30 min unsuccessful DATY, toilette break, my 15 min massage on her, her 6 min excellent, watery BJ, 7 min cowgirl, 7 min missionary. Must repeat.

Left at 0:30 am.[/QUOTE]Roxy is not a member of Betty's crew, although they sit at same sofa under aquarium. Definitely Roxy is a very sweet girl, isn't she?

I am surprised the no-show of Betty in your reports. She was not supposed to be busy recently. Did she fall out from your favorite lis? LOL.

Anyway, good reports.

Arrived at 11 am.

1) Anika 1130-1202 (excluding 28 min as tip), 100 E, Rom, 27 yo, 163 cm, long blonde, fairly pretty, natural the-cups (I thought they were silicone, but I was wrong), 2 years at Sharks. In a room my 2 min massage on her, 1 min DATY, 5 min BJ, 10 min cow-girl and 10 min missionary. May not repeat.

2) Ivy: 1230-1355 (excluding 5 min as tip), 150 E & 50 E for CIM & 50 E for erotic massage, the first time in the past six months. In a room 10 min caressing, 20 min DATY with her two O's, 10 min missionary with her two O's, cigarette break, her 20 min erotic massage with CIM and pillow talk. Must repeat.

3) Jazz & Amily: 1405-1455,100 E*2, the third time with Jazz in this FKK tour and Amily is Jazz's mentor. In a room, Jazz BJ'ed me while I licked Amily's pussy with her two O's, Amily BJ'ed me while I licked Jazz's pussy with her O, I fucked Amily in cowgirl and missionary position, then fucked Jazz, A's second BJ and J's second BJ without targeted CIM. Not repeat, but repeat separately.

Left 16 pm.

Now I'm ready for the flight back to Japan.

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2246177]...I am surprised the no-show of Betty in your reports. She was not supposed to be busy recently. Did she fall out from your favorite lis? ..[/QUOTE]Betty is now sick and back at home because of malicious posts on the net according to Alexandara.

Oh, I am sorry to hear that Betty is sick because of malicious posts. I am not sure if I would be partially blamed for that. However, I never said negative words to Betty. Quite the contrary, I promised her a two-hour session at my next visit. I even gave her a warm farewell hug before I left.

Anyway, I wish she will be fine and return soon.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2246234]Betty is now sick and back at home because of malicious posts on the net according to Alexandara.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2246234]Betty is now sick and back at home because of malicious posts on the net according to Alexandara.[/QUOTE]If now we are starting to believe what the prostitutes are saying, may be the beginning of the end.

[QUOTE=BblueSsky;2246000]Dear all,

I am a newbie here. Sorry for asking for this silly question: Can I bring my own condom at Sharks?

Thank you very much![/QUOTE]Yes, of course you can but some girls prefer their own for safety reasons. Others view it as saving them the cost of a rubber!

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2245037]I mistype the name, it was Scarlet not Sharlet, that I had two very nice sessions with.[/QUOTE]I like Scarlet, she told me she'd worked there for 2 years but she goes to university so isn't at Sharks all the time, I think she left on Monday this week so you timed your visit well.

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2241615]Around 5 PM, A girl waved hand towards me. I became ecstatic immediately when I saw her. Oh my god, I could not believe I could see her again. [B]Inka[/B], 24 yo gorgeous college student, she looks more beautiful and slim than last time we saw each other.[/QUOTE]She's very slim, she told me she doesn't eat the food at Sharks which must help. Another girl who was slim told me the same thing.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2246306]I like Scarlet, she told me she'd worked there for 2 years but she goes to university so isn't at Sharks all the time, I think she left on Monday this week so you timed your visit well.[/QUOTE]I don't believe any of those stories, probably she is not a student but, so many girls told me that and when I started to ask some questions all failed to answer correctly the last one told me she is studying management she was in the last year in master but could not tell me what is a business plan.

On my most recent trip to Germany I made one visit to see the Sharks. Actually, truth be told I could give two shits about the Sharks I really went to meet up with Mac75 a longtime Dietz buddy, Lanthano who I had met previously at Oase and Der Auslander. The two Irish guys and myself (apparently it was a holiday weekend in Ireland) had made plans many months ago to meet this day and as luck would have it Lanthano was free and came to join us. I am actually quite pleased this meeting actually took place as word is Der Auslander likes to make plans 9 months in advance while I like to change my plans 9 times each morning I wake up in DE but we all made it. Fortunately for all, I hate Day Care on the weekends so discount day at Sharks worked out perfect. I got there early with Mac, Lanthano joined us a few hours later and Der Auslander made it late afternoon in time for dinner. Good time with the guys, Mac and I took off about 10 PM or so and hopped a cab back to the city for 50 e. The first cabbie outside the exit wanted 60 e, we told him to go fuck himself and the guy by the street took us for 50 e.

Sharks itself was a ghost town. Mandy was also a ghost, she was apparently (per one girl) on an all day appointment. I bumped in to Domenica but something didn't seem right, I think she gave up on me once I started doing 100 rooms to her 50 rooms and assumed she has no shot at 100 room, is too lazy to go for 50 so misread me pretty bad as I happily would have given her 100 Euros for an hour but she either wanted to be unemployed all day long or I suspect I found her at a ' bad time. ' My gut told me not to session with her, and my gut at this point is usually right. I have noticed with her on all my visits to Darmstadt sometimes she seems on and sometimes off, this was an off time. Maybe next time. I saw no Patrizia, no Francesca either. A few of the pole dancers were there, chasing Asians and like the Asian hunters at Mainhatten showed absolutely zero interest in me but I didn't give a shit. I target the back of the bar, the German section and the back stage and like to sit in the back couches and be hunted. Anka (chunky girl) found me a few times but I had to pass. Great blowjob ' until the end' but not my type for this day.

My first girl was a no brainer. She has been on my to do list quite some time, sits on the back stage next to Luci / Hannah and I am speaking of the Brazilian Claudia, all the tats and beautiful eyes. I had spoken to her for a while that morning (she was there at 11) which was rare as she usually comes later. I can see why she was there early though. I think it is pretty well known now that there is some major upselling at this joint, discount day is full of Germans and Germans seek value and Claudia is value providing great 50 or 100 rooms as does Luci. Sure enough, she was paraded by nothing but German troops in blue and white robes up and down stairs and in to the back rooms all morning and early afternoon and fucked a good six or so times (at least) by 3 or 4 when I finally went with her. I still don't understand why so many guys go to these clubs and all aim for the best optics (and Claudia ain't that bad) or girls who are all reviewed here by other guys and end up complaining this club is upsell city, 50 doesn't fly anymore and to that I say ' Bullshit!. ' I was offered 50 rooms all day and night, not one girl there who approached me would have turned it down as in each talk I always told them BBBJ 50430 and if I like the girl I will do an hour possibly the next time. Number of ' no's? 0.

IMHO if you run in to difficulty at this club as a newbie simply chill out and sit, there is no rush, just relax and observe. Listen for guys speaking German to the girls, in many cases these are locals or club regulars and they don't fuck around with the shitty girls; just watch who they go with. And the Turks for that matter too. It really isn't rocket science. Both these groups seek value and looks combined, know their game so why not follow the leader? Your money, not mine.

I can not say had I approached the hottest girls there that 50 would fly but if anyone thinks one can not get good service here and uncovered blowjobs for 50 that is hogwash, just have to look. Might not land the Perfect 10 but certainly some good 7 and 8's to be had. Lanthano nailed a hot one for 50. Mac found a good one for 50 and did CIM for 50 more and Der Auslander sessioned after we left so no clue what he did. But this doom and gloom shit is out of control IMHO; just play your cards right. I will say however this particular day was a buyers' market like I had never seen at Sharks. Did it make a difference? Maybe. Maybe not, Who knows. My offers are 50 or 100 and aren't changing.

Anyway, when I was ready turns out a German snagged Claudia, guy beat me by ten feet!! Shit! That was ok, she was doing 30 quick rooms so I saw her coming back roughly 25 minutes after she split with the guy and told her I would be waiting for her on her perch. She came over and sat down after cleaning up in the ladies area. I had spoken to her several times prior and she was well aware of what I do in the room for 100 with her stage mate Luci; that is exactly what we went for. We went to the red room, my favorite room at Sharks. Everything but kissing, I don't ask for it ever if ' offered' might play along but it is the least of my desires. I just want my cock sucked on, to fuck and occasionally eat pussy. All were done with Claudia. I actually came in the condom, an amazing feat for myself. Room time was probably just under an hour guessing 52-56 minutes or so. Great girl and highly recommend her. No PPS. Claudia did tell me there is ' an issue' at Sharks and that is too many girls especially the newer ones are in her words ' trying to sell every service' or as we say ' upsell. ' She says this is driving the guys off and she is one of the Sharks unhappy with the behavior of other Sharks as it is collectively costing them money. However, she said she is doing just great now which also explains why she was wisely there at 11 AM for the open to start fucking the guys many of them sick of the greedy ones. I think she fucked a good 15+ guys on the day and I split at 10 PM! Good for her.

My other session came about 9 PM or so. I went with a ' Colombian' from Cali. Yeah right. She approached me on the far back couches next to where Claudia sits where I was sitting with the other guys chatting. Her Spanish was perfect. She told me she had just started this line of work a few months ago and before worked in an office in Cali. For a tute from Cali she sure learned German and Romanian pretty darn fast as when I went to get her when ready she was in the German section speaking both German and Romanian in rapid fire to the other girls. Later on she told me she worked at Magnum prior to Sharks yet Lanthano told me he recognized her from FKK World. I think I will believe Lanthano, not the Romanian sucking cock in Germany claiming to be from Colombia. And if she is, she is. However, as was once posted in the World thread who cares where they are from as long as they suck a good cock.

I would say she had a little meat on her, if one were to classify Mandy as ' borderline chubby' (I am having fun with that one today) than this girl would be classified as slightly chubby or chubby by some. Great tits, a tattoo on her stomach and on both legs. Long black hair. I have never heard her name before but spelling it as it is pronounced ' See-You-Mara. '.

Very nice girl with a good attitude, I told her what I wanted for 50 and she happily agreed. The red room was taken so we went in that room right on the corner next to it in front of the fish tank area. She delivered very well in the room. Her blowjob was properly performed. I told her I had issues finishing in condoms and to suck me close than suit up and get on top and fuck me. She did just that and for the second time that day I filled up a condom while she rode me in cowgirl with great effort and performed well. Payment of 50 Euros was made at the usual location and off to the vashing area she went. I went back to the guys, all were still seated in the same area. A little more chat and laughs and Mac and I took off.

That was it for Sharks. Had the guys not been there I can honestly say I would have been bored fucking shitless. Dietzenbach is much more exciting for me, to each their own. Dietzenbach is a fuck club and nothing else. None of this fake bullshit. I come to Germany to fuck not be fooled by fancy lights and a fancy locker and an Asian buffet or an outdoor BBQ or a steam room or a fancy bar or a fancy hot tub etc. I have all that shit at home. I also had more fun poking my head door to door in the RLD checking out the sleazy side of things, I think the ballgame will soon be changing and the NRW has been added in finally and I will land in Dusseldorf in a few months in the dead of Germany's winter to start a new chapter which is just fine as I hate heat. I will attend more fuck clubs in search of filth and debauchery in its creamiest forms than it is on to Vienna in the spring and I am sure after Triptogomont posts his Madrid reviews I will be buying a ticket back to the Spanish capital myself. Monkey see, monkey do and hopefully the monkeys don't at up at the pharmacy.

All that being said, I still love Sharks, it's just time to expand out and not laterally, I need to go up to the NRW. Frankfurt has the Creampie Factory and The Creampie House but I need to get on the A3 or reroute my flights to Dusseldorf and head north to Creampie Country where I think I will find everything and anything I desire and the Creampie Factory is only a 3 hour drive away from Creampie Country as I will never abandon the Gypsies. But there are dozens and dozens of untapped (by me) Gypsies to the north and all kinds of RLDs, time to go find them. I will be setting up Camp Creampie in Gelsenkirchen and letting the dice roll from there.

Good time in Darmstadt however, for 50 Euro I got my money's worth for entry, good company and two good sessions. Damage: 200 e plus transport.

[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2246279]Yes, of course you can but some girls prefer their own for safety reasons. Others view it as saving them the cost of a rubber![/QUOTE]Thank you so much!

KosherKowboy,

Another great report KK. Enjoyed reading it.

[QUOTE=DarkNight2017;2246062]Hi,

I am planning to go a 6 day tour with FKK tours. Can you advice me on these tours? Are they good? Value for money.

I had been to Mainhattan and palace myself in May this yr. But if have a tour guide and someone drive you around then it will be great. Keen to do it next year.

Please advice.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't recommend the tour but I have not taken them myself.

There is enough information on this site to visit these FKKs by yourself. Don't waste your money on the tours. You can easily do Sharks (easy train ride + taxi), Oase (easy S-Bahn ride + taxi) or World (train ride + pleasant walk) by spending very minimum on transportation.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2246379]Great girl and highly recommend her. No PPS. Claudia did tell me there is ' an issue' at Sharks and that is too many girls especially the newer ones are in her words ' trying to sell every service' or as we say ' upsell. ' She says this is driving the guys off and she is one of the Sharks unhappy with the behavior of other Sharks as it is collectively costing them money. However, she said she is doing just great now which also explains why she was wisely there at 11 AM for the open to start fucking the guys many of them sick of the greedy ones. I think she fucked a good 15+ guys on the day and I split at 10 PM! Good for her.[/QUOTE]I did Claudia nine years ago at Oase. Nice that Claudia exhibits this old-school attitude. I like taller girls and even some MILFs. She deserves the good business. But she probably got 15+ guys because Sundays tend to have a higher percentage of value shoppers. You are one of the enlightened mongers that could go with 75 percent of the LU. For majority of the mongers, they won't be interested optically in Claudia. I do believe that Claudia tried to upsell 150 for 60 minute package (I believe it was reported by Turgid). He immediately negotiated her down. She happily accepted the offer, and gave good service, so there was a happy ending.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2246379]That was it for Sharks. Had the guys not been there I can honestly say I would have been bored fucking shitless. Dietzenbach is much more exciting for me, to each their own. Dietzenbach is a fuck club and nothing else. None of this fake bullshit. I come to Germany to fuck not be fooled by fancy lights and a fancy locker and an Asian buffet or an outdoor BBQ or a steam room or a fancy bar or a fancy hot tub etc. I have all that shit at home. I also had more fun poking my head door to door in the RLD checking out the sleazy side of things[/QUOTE]

I am with you here. I don't spend a lot of times in the rooms. So I prefer to chat with other mongers to pass the time and/or attend a club that allows me to use my phone in the lounge.

The worse the PPS epidemic gets at Sharks, the more desirable RLD becomes. Instead of paying Sharks entry, one could just book a hotel in Frankfurt RLD and leave their hotel every few hours to do a session. The hole-in-the-wall restaurants in the Frankfurt RLD are cheap, international, and much better quality thank FKK club food. And many of the nicer restaurants have lunch specials on weekdays. I could easily spend a 75-100 EUR per day on a food crawl, because I like to eat. But I think one can easily subsist on a 25-30 EUR daily food allowance. Just buy water from supermarket. And bring take out boxes back to the hotel. I acknowledge that such an idea might not work for all mongers.

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2245912]The last part has been delayed for a week. I was waiting for my dream girl's permission to post it. She said OK yesterday.

Someone may have been tired of my tedious reports. This is the last part. Comments and questions are welcome.

Link to Part I.

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Lin to Part II.

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[B]Recollection of the past, autumn 2018 FKK tour, Part III.[/B]

(continued)..[/QUOTE]Most entertaining posts for me: I fucked her in all holes, I don't need to do the same, women learned me how to play, but from my experience, when a girl really likes you, I'm used to be asked: I don't want you go with other girls, I don't want you do the same with her. I was never proposed by one of my girls to go with her friend, or for a threesome, but I was threatened: If you go with other girls, I don't go with you anymore, or I won't behave the same anymore.

On April 2016 at Sharks, had to choose between Megan and Ariana who became crazy, even Ariana was more extreme in bed, but I chose the beauty.

About respect, my last discovery in Germany had health problems and sometimes she was not able to work because she had too much pain, frustrating for me who drive from far, but she always sent me message to cancel. I don't remember one of my girls not respecting an appointment, or not sending me a message when they have problem, they know I don't go to them from the next street.

I think we get from girls from what we are.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2246480] She deserves the good business. But she probably got 15+ guys because Sundays tend to have a higher percentage of value shoppers. You are one of the enlightened mongers that could go with 75 percent of the LU. For majority of the mongers, they won't be interested optically in Claudia.

I am with you here. I don't spend a lot of times in the rooms. So I prefer to chat with other mongers to pass the time and/or attend a club that allows me to use my phone in the lounge.

The worse the PPS epidemic gets at Sharks, the more desirable RLD becomes. I acknowledge that such an idea might not work for all mongers.[/QUOTE]I agree with your assessment on why Claudia did well, after all it is how I found her and Luci in the first place, coat tailing the locals who are as you say value shoppers. I knew that's why she was there at 11 AM to start soaking up that money like a sponge knowing it would be there all day for her. 100 percent in agreement, something I am finding more common with your theories in general. I am also glad you had a chance to do Claudia even if 9 years ago; thanks for adding some mileage to her as I prefer the high mileage ones :D

Hanging out with other mongers is for sure a great way to pass the times between girls and I also think (we discussed this at Sharks) hanging out in groups makes you less of a target for these girls they will be less apt to play you for a fool IMHO and they may get in that frame of mind ' This guy isn't a loner, I should take his 50 or 100 as he is probably perfectly content rejecting me (and maybe my upsells) and hanging out with his buddies. " With buddies there in a way in their mind it ' devalues' their existence somewhat and your need for them so they are more apt to play ball with those guys knowing either they take what is offered (if within their range) as they know darn well if they don't most likely the guys in the group will be smart enough to find another and / or one might have a good experience and pass her to his friends.

This happened at Oase with Mac75. I think I have now followed him 3 X in sessions over the last two visits, he found the fish, I ate it. I ' buy' other peoples private lists. I actually earned that list as that guy was new at Day Care so I was able to point him to exactly the girls he needed and the ones to pass on so within two visits he knew the 411 on every girl there, best time to go with her, best girl to pair her up with and so on. Tit for tat.

I think 75 percent of younger guys looking for hotties would probably not go with Claudia but I think 75 percent of local Germans or Turks over the age of 45 would happily go with her. Just goes to show there is a tute for every john and a john for every tute and as much as I may trash Sharks at times the place has something for everyone.

I can only speak for myself but I see Claudia my eyes see a ' true Wh*re' . I see that little blond who chases Asians and sits on the arm rest of that pole dancing couch I think ' fucking stuck up kunt' ; she sees cheap john in me I see greedy kunt in her.

There is a Shark for all tastes and all budgets. I don't think many of these guys would sub out the RLD for Sharks or even complement it, I think they might trend more to some smaller clubs. Several Germans are telling me especially ones at Dietzenbach that they are now going to Bahama, Atlanta and many actually to ROM now in lieu of the Oase / Sharks options. One Gypsy told me she is seeing more guys coming in from Sharks / oase especially for CIM BBBJs, packing up and leaving. Many are suggesting World to me that the girls are jumping on 50's.

Markets all settle in time, PPS will take a toll on these Sharks / Oase girls; matter of time till the shoe is back on the other foot. IMHO.

Viorica start to make anal.

She is very good in this.

I pay her 200 e for half hour.

The best session.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2246530]I agree with your I see that little blond who chases Asians and sits on the arm rest of that pole dancing couch I think ' fucking stuck up kunt' ; she sees cheap john in me I see greedy kunt in her.[/QUOTE]I presume you are referring to Serena, who is the littlest blonde normally sitting there. She was an upseller with mediocre service in my first session with her last year. But as I find her pretty, I tried her again earlier this year. Better this time around.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2246585]I presume you are referring to Serena, who is the littlest blonde normally sitting there. She was an upseller with mediocre service in my first session with her last year. But as I find her pretty, I tried her again earlier this year. Better this time around.[/QUOTE]Maybe that is similar to her name but I went with a Serena I think in the past was decent. Selina maybe? A few little blonds sit there one one main one seemed to occupy it last time; but my eyes are starting to get bad w / o wearing glasses so I think I have reached the point where girls are starting to look alike. Maybe I will try talking to her next time, this one just looked quite greedy.

Speaking of mediocre I visited that deadfish Christina from World at Mainhatten 2 X but now she flops and moves around and performs like a superstar. Just not a Gypsy.

Guess some with mediocre service get better with time. Helps when they have to compete knowing they are number #3-#4 on the depth charts wanting to move up :D

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2246306]I like Scarlet, she told me she'd worked there for 2 years but she goes to university so isn't at Sharks all the time, I think she left on Monday this week so you timed your visit well.[/QUOTE]Is this Scarlet with dark hair, sit on right side of bar when you see it from entrance? If this is one, she is still there this week.

McAdonis. Ah, you have outed me LOL as I have had enough of Precious Princesses and now lurk in the lower regions of red light districts and bottom feeding clubs, far from the light of Sharks.

I occasionally surface to retry a salubrious club, but soon return to the shadows where my money buys as much sex as I want (no longer 8 times a day sadly) and as much schmusen as the hours in the day allow (as a guy who will always choose a nice girl over a fellow purchaser LOL).

Summary is. Input costs (euros) down: output (service) up.

Just what suits me at the moment: not telling other guys what to do

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2246530]Hanging out with other mongers is for sure a great way to pass the times between girls and I also think (we discussed this at Sharks) hanging out in groups makes you less of a target for these girls they will be less apt to play you for a fool IMHO and they may get in that frame of mind ' This guy isn't a loner, I should take his 50 or 100 as he is probably perfectly content rejecting me (and maybe my upsells) and hanging out with his buddies. " With buddies there in a way in their mind it ' devalues' their existence somewhat and your need for them so they are more apt to play ball with those guys knowing either they take what is offered (if within their range) as they know darn well if they don't most likely the guys in the group will be smart enough to find another and / or one might have a good experience and pass her to his friends. [/QUOTE]I'm just a typical "tourist customer" having only visited Germany six times for various lengths of time in the last year. Maybe this is why I find it hard to engage with other patrons whenever I visit Sharks or other Clubs.

I have numerous friends outside the FKK world but none to join me in this paradise world & although time flys by at these Clubs for me as I use the Clubs leisure facilities it would be nice to sit down with a drink & a chat. However any attempts I've made have failed (apart from a German customer at Artemis who was obsessed with Brexit).

I'm back at Sharks on 29th for most of the day with possibly a few hours early next day so maybe this time I will "bond" with someone but my experience has always been that customers visiting alone are never interested in talking.

Maybe it's just me LOL!

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2246530]Hanging out with other mongers is for sure a great way to pass the times between girls and I also think (we discussed this at Sharks) hanging out in groups makes you less of a target for these girls they will be less apt to play you for a fool IMHO and they may get in that frame of mind ' This guy isn't a loner, I should take his 50 or 100 as he is probably perfectly content rejecting me (and maybe my upsells) and hanging out with his buddies. " With buddies there in a way in their mind it ' devalues' their existence somewhat and your need for them so they are more apt to play ball with those guys knowing either they take what is offered (if within their range) as they know darn well if they don't most likely the guys in the group will be smart enough to find another and / or one might have a good experience and pass her to his friends.[/QUOTE]The WGs would definitely prefer that all mongers operated lone wolf. For a number of reasons, I can think of. Some mongers I know just like to do long rooms. Some mongers I know only do long rooms when they are bored out of their mind. So from the latter group, I have actually been thanked. They explained to me that having me as a wingman saved them some money. Also when mongers are in a group, they tend to not take more than 90 minute rooms, in general. This may be due to common courtesy of not wanting to abandon their wingman on the couch, or this may be due to logistics (I. E. They arrived in the same car and one of them needs to catch a train). Groups tend to talk and share information. This can be a threat to the sharky girls. And a boon for the top service girls. But I would argue that at megaclubs like Sharks this network communication effect amongst monger cliques on the couch is minimal. At a smaller club, sometimes you only have 12 bears and 15 WG, and if 6-7 of the bears know each other, well that keeps the WGs on their toes, I would think. And ensures baseline service level is high, and through natural selection, the sharks are weeded out.

Also are we talking loners in real life or just mongers that are to themselves while visiting an FKK club? I can be considered a loner in real life. But when mongering, I prefer some company to pass the time. But I have met married local businessmen who sneak into the club for a quick 3 hour visit, once every six months. These men have busy lives, spending time with their spouse, family, and friends, so they are extremely social in real life, but loners during their 3 hour visit, simply because they do not have time to waste speaking with other mongers. They want to be in and out before anyone notices they are missing. Then of course you have mongers who spend upwards of 30 plus days per year in the club, and 8 plus hours each visit. These men I would characterize as loners. At the least, they have re-arranged their social and sometimes professional lives, so they can fall off the side the earth without anyone knowing, so they can maximize time spent in the FKKs. The real-life loners are clearly more of a "catch" for WGs.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2246530]I think 75 percent of younger guys looking for hotties would probably not go with Claudia but I think 75 percent of local Germans or Turks over the age of 45 would happily go with her. Just goes to show there is a tute for every john and a john for every tute and as much as I may trash Sharks at times the place has something for everyone.[/QUOTE]

Lowering their optical standard or taking a MILF is extremely rare amongst following groups: (1) hardcore mongers, (2) fly-in sex tourists, and (3) mongers who have been in the game less than two decades. The actual numeric age of the monger, I see as less of a factor. I once posted that several porn star MILFs are extremely popular on PornHub. We must assume majority of visitors to porn sites are young men under the age of 35 with raging testosterone that feel the need to masturbate three times a day, and numbers show that they like watching porn stars like Lisa Ann and Brandy Love. Some here have posited that the mongers who deliberately take the less attractive WGs do so because they lack self-confidence and they are not attractive men themselves. But consider this, many of grandma Sylvana's clients were good-looking, generally fit Italian men, and under the age of 40.

So when I said 75 percent would have zero interest in Claudia, I was referring to the ISG readers.

Between Sharks and Mainhatten what's best for Sunday afternoons to evenings these days?

May be I am stupid but I am in the early 60 but I will never session a woman over 27, the dream to fuck a MILF is in fact the dream to fuck his mother.

I have 0 interest to discuss or to share any info when I am in a club, when I listen what groups of guys are saying it is just terrible and so naive.

[QUOTE=Canary;2246612]I'm just a typical "tourist customer" having only visited Germany six times for various lengths of time in the last year. Maybe this is why I find it hard to engage with other patrons whenever I visit Sharks or other Clubs.

I have numerous friends outside the FKK world but none to join me in this paradise world & although time flys by at these Clubs for me as I use the Clubs leisure facilities it would be nice to sit down with a drink & a chat. However any attempts I've made have failed (apart from a German customer at Artemis who was obsessed with Brexit).

I'm back at Sharks on 29th for most of the day with possibly a few hours early next day so maybe this time I will "bond" with someone but my experience has always been that customers visiting alone are never interested in talking.

Maybe it's just me LOL![/QUOTE]Shame. I'm landing 29th but not in Sharks until the Saturday - -1st. If you are still around let me know. I love the use of the facilities in the clubs too. Gym in Artemis is excellent and I wish every FKK had one. Table football in Oase is good. Sharks. Massage options are good and outside in summer but not a lot else. I too don't tend to spend a lot of time talking to other guys but it does have its advantages between sessions and for information sharing.

I'd go to Sharks for great choice (40-60 girls). Mainhattan might be pretty deserted (7-10 girls during the afternoon- then 10-20 in the eve).

[QUOTE=PredsFan77;2246692]Between Sharks and Mainhatten what's best for Sunday afternoons to evenings these days?[/QUOTE]

I guess there were 50-55 girls total in the club. 5-8 busty girls. 3 very busty naturals. 8-10 german girls. Many very good looking ones. This was an unusual Thursday eve.

Here the details. As boob-fetishist, I started with one of my top3 favourites in Sharks, Annika. And the was lucky to see my top 1 favourite, Kaeli.

* Annika, blond, rumanian, fairly petite, but big naturals on a small frame - 47 kg - 165 cm - 75'dd' in size. Her tits are really good looking with big nipples. She can typically be found at the right of the bar, just between the bar and the stairs, where she sits on some of the sofa chairs.

* Kaeli, very big tits, 80'ddd', quite slim, 55 kg, 173 cm, was blond-died, is now natural-dark-brown. Long hair. Greek, speaks very good german, She has an asian look on her (eyes), while the nose resemble a slight african touch. She was the most busy girl of the evening, and I had to wait until midnight to finaly get a slot with her. Her bust is incredible. Clearly one of the best big naturals, especially given her figure. I booked her for one hours- and she totally like by boob-fetish. She typically hides out in the back, behind the bar on a small stage.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2246483]Most entertaining posts for me: I fucked her in all holes, I don't need to do the same, women learned me how to play, but from my experience, when a girl really likes you, I'm used to be asked: I don't want you go with other girls, I don't want you do the same with her. I was never proposed by one of my girls to go with her friend, or for a threesome, but I was threatened: If you go with other girls, I don't go with you anymore, or I won't behave the same anymore.

On April 2016 at Sharks, had to choose between Megan and Ariana who became crazy, even Ariana was more extreme in bed, but I chose the beauty.

About respect, my last discovery in Germany had health problems and sometimes she was not able to work because she had too much pain, frustrating for me who drive from far, but she always sent me message to cancel. I don't remember one of my girls not respecting an appointment, or not sending me a message when they have problem, they know I don't go to them from the next street.

I think we get from girls from what we are.[/QUOTE]No meaning after cut, I meant Uncle posts are the most entertaining for me, much more than boring: I fuck her in all holes, not interesting for me, I don t need lessons about fucking, just matter of feeling and listening girl body.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2246688]The WGs would definitely prefer that all mongers operated lone wolf. Groups tend to talk and share information. This can be a threat to the sharky girls.

Also are we talking loners in real life or just mongers that are to themselves while visiting an FKK club? I can be considered a loner in real life. But when mongering, I prefer some company to pass the time. The real-life loners are clearly more of a "catch" for WGs.

Lowering their optical standard or taking a MILF is extremely rare amongst following groups: (1) hardcore mongers, (2) fly-in sex tourists, and (3) mongers who have been in the game less than two decades. The actual numeric age of the monger, I see as less of a factor.

So when I said 75 percent would have zero interest in Claudia, I was referring to the ISG readers.[/QUOTE]I agree the WGs prefer the lone wolf for several reasons, much easier targets and these guys can't exactly use the ' I am hanging out with my friends relaxing, no thank you maybe later' excuse so their hit rates maybe higher and they probably clip the loners for a few more Euros on average as well. Darn right groups or chatting guys can be a threat to the sharky or greedy girls as they talk. The Mainhatten girls hate it when I talk to any Asians, they know they can't get a 260 Euro one hour CBJ appointment out of the guy (as I witnessed the main hunter do last trip) if I am explaining the pricing to them.

Had I talked to that guy I saw pay 260 last week no way he would have and no way that girl would have sold him down the river so badly.

I am kind of a hybrid of the loner you describe. At home I do nothing but go to the gym, the supermarket, an occasional hike or bike ride and the rest of my life is reading / posting on the ISG and surviving USA Boards, searching the Delta, hotel and various travel sites for deals and sending WhatsApps to fellow mongers (occasionally Gypsies) and given the 7 hour difference between here and Germany and with California two hours behind me I pretty much can find a lone wolf or two or even a ' normal person' who has a life but isn't busy to chat with at any given time due to having a normal life (that would be UltraHappy for example) My ' working hours' are usually spent watching the DOW tick up and down all day on FOX Business News (used to watch CNBC but it is not as good).

But in the clubs I like to have guys to chat with as well and other times (usually Mainhatten days) I want to be left alone to be anti-social and work the girls or be worked by them at my own pace and own time. Many a time at multiple clubs I have been on a couch (or chair) and some guy starts chatting to me nearby and I just want to say ' shut the fuck up, I am in silent hunt mode here' so I get up and go elsewhere. I think I am a real life loner not sure if I am a sucker or not for the WGs, they don't get much from me if I am.

I disagree (maybe I read wrong) and perhaps it comes down to ' What exactly is a hardcore monger' that group one above (the hardcore mongers) rarely lower their optical standards in fact I think the opposite. Maybe I am not hardcore but I find that ' portfolio' discussed a key part to determining if one is hardcore or not, but I am not judging or telling others how to monger. In the last week I have fucked a beautiful Mainhatten girl well two of them, a chubby cute Shark, a middle of the road nasty cum guzzling girl now I guess regular at Oase, several ladies of all ages and shapes and sizes in the RLD and today I fucked a 55 year old former stripper ($100 for 30 minutes) in a very nice part of town and later in the afternoon a 24 year old Mexican girl with a hairy Bush who works for a madam in town here ($100 for 30 as well) in a shithole part of town.

I think many hardcore mongers lower their optical or weight standards etc. I differ with you on that one. Respectfully.

I can relate and see the Claudia thing in perspective to ISG, in fact perhaps higher than 75 percent

I think KosherKowboy and Hungry Stud as her ' ISG loners' puts Claudia in the lower less than one percentile, which is just fine with me :D

[QUOTE=Rikki90;2246548]Viorica start to make anal.

She is very good in this.

I pay her 200 e for half hour.

The best session.[/QUOTE]Hey Rikki, may you explain the price of 200 bucks for a half hour with anal butt fuck up Viorica's asshole?

The price for standard half hour is 50 bucks and the additional of anal ass sex is an additional 100 bucks making a total of 150 bucks. Was there also a CIM or COF ending as well to make 200 bucks or was that the tip for Viorica to make her happy?

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2246978]Hey Rikki, may you explain the price of 200 bucks for a half hour with anal butt fuck up Viorica's asshole?

The price for standard half hour is 50 bucks and the additional of anal ass sex is an additional 100 bucks making a total of 150 bucks. Was there also a CIM or COF ending as well to make 200 bucks or was that the tip for Viorica to make her happy?[/QUOTE]50 e was a tip from me because she was a very good.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2246306]I like Scarlet, she told me she'd worked there for 2 years but she goes to university so isn't at Sharks all the time, I think she left on Monday this week so you timed your visit well.[/QUOTE]She attends an educational university with an incredibly flexible study schedule allowing ample time for her to attend the Sharks institute for the provision of personal sexual services for money.

I'm headed to my final day at Sharks today.

I arrived in Frankfurt on my first trip having planned to visit a few different FKK clubs but it ended up being Sharks 6 times.

As a lone Asian, I've tried to engage any other lone guys who I have heard speaking English and look bored and most have been receptive to having a chat. If you see a bored guy alone today, start a conversation.

There's always the interesting topics of girls to chat about to pass the time and share good tips.

I've been hesitant to engage the local German guys in conversation, not knowing if they'll be up for a chat. One friendly German guy did initiate a conversation with me though.

The girls are definitely not interested in chatting to me if I'm not going to take them to a room so it only leaves other guys.

You can only FK so much in there so it's important to enjoy the other parts of the experience.

Things which took me a while to learn which I only did after chatting with others.

There are hourly Sauna sessions from 6 pm where one of the staff puts on a little show turning up the heat intensity.

There's a second Sauna outside if you turn left after leaving the dining area.

Bus are from Darmstadt Hbf station runs along the road in front Sharks but the last one is around 10:30 pm.

There is a bus that runs directly from FRA airport to Darmstadt Hbf.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2246046]4) Yra: 1835-2035,200 E, the third session in this late autumn FKK tour. In a room 10 min caressing, 10 min of combination of DATY and missionary, 20 min DATY with her quiet O, 10 min pillow talk, my 30 min massage on her, 10 min another talk and 20 min BJ making me fall asleep momentarily. Must repeat.[/QUOTE]Well done. Getting a BBBJ from Yra which was so inspiring that the intimate performance made you fall asleep. Just the best.

So relaxing for that to happen.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2246045] 4) Michelle: 1930-2100,150 E, Moldovan, 168 cm, pretty, slim, A-cup, long dark blonde, two and a half years at Sharks after one and a half years at World. In a room 5 min caressing, 25 min DATY with completely no reaction on her side, 10 min BJ, 10 min cowgirl, 5 min missionary, pillow talk about how to lead her to ecstasy and 5 min DATY as prep for our tomorrow's 3-hour lesson. She demanded three- or longer-hour sessions to kiss, but I am still wondering if I would really take the 3-hour lesson about her orgasm tomorrow. We will see.[/QUOTE]Michelle must be a catastrophe. She needs a 3+ hour room with a man before she will kiss you. You cannot legislate these girls. There is no guarantees from them but they expect the higher standard from the men. They pump the men for more and more. Really puts me off and it has.

What is worse Michelle did not orgasm with your great skills in lovemaking. That is just not right.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2246043]1) Ezra (or Estra): 1400-1500,100 E. Rom, 20 yo, B-cup, long dark blonde, fairly pretty, petite, 160 cm, bad teeth, one month at Sharks. In a room 3 min caressing, 22 min DATY with her intense O, another 15 min DATY with my five digits in her pussy, 5 min missionary, my 15 min massage on her. Repeat. In the past I have put my three fingers in the pussy of Ramona at Oase, four in Claudia at Oase, then five in Erza, almost fist sex.[/QUOTE]You were building up to fisting Ezra at Sharks with your give digits in her twat. It is all practice.

First three fingers in the pussy of Ramona to get her lubed up for the main event.

Then four digits into the cavern of Claudia at Oase. Wow, wow, wow. I bet Claudia liked that performance. Real Sporty.

But the crowning achievement is the 5 digits into the intimate void inside of Ezra. Other guys will want to do this too to Ezra. I want it too to Ezra. Sounds like too much fun.

Indeed YamaYama you are the master of the carnal arts.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2246043]3) Loretta: 1830-1930,100 E. Rom, 26 yo, slightly saggy B cup, long brunette, fairly pretty, slim, model, 165 cm, five months at Sharks, can kiss even for 30 min 50 E sessions. In a room caressing, 23 min DATY with her O, 2 min BJ, 3 min cowgirl, 2 min missionary, 3 min flat doggie, 13 min combination of miss and DATY, and my 15 min massage one her. May repeat.[/QUOTE]Loretta is way cute. She looks good in her pictures especially when she is nude in them. She is a kisser.

Her friend is Vanessa (who also looks good in her pictures too).

Vanessa and Loretta say that they love Asian men, because they are friendly, have small dicks and they come fast. There is no problem that they do no shave their pubis since their hands can push that growth back to allow the blowjob.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2246043]I'm sorry to find Yra and Cosmina so busy tonight too.[/QUOTE]This is very sad news.

You were to get the double blowjob from both Yra and Cosmina together.

Next time.

[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2246279]Yes, of course you can but some girls prefer their own for safety reasons. Others view it as saving them the cost of a rubber![/QUOTE]Agreed. But may be a sunk cost now, ever since the Sharks club enforces a 5 euros tariff on the girls each day for condoms. So effectively the girls have already paid for the condoms.

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2245912]The last part has been delayed for a week. I was waiting for my dream girl's permission to post it. She said OK yesterday.

Someone may have been tired of my tedious reports. This is the last part. Comments and questions are welcome.

Link to Part I.

[POST]2241615[/POST]

Lin to Part II.

[POST]2242325[/POST]

[B]Recollection of the past, autumn 2018 FKK tour, Part III.[/B]

(continued)..[/QUOTE]Uff so much patience to write great job done bro liked your post keep writing.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2246982]She attends an educational university with an incredibly flexible study schedule allowing ample time for her to attend the Sharks institute for the provision of personal sexual services for money.[/QUOTE]I thought something similar when she told me she was going back to university. It's odd that her school starts in November. I do believe she has some higher level of education based on our conversations.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2246043]Arrived at 1130 am.

1) Ezra (or Estra): 1400-1500,100 E. Rom, 20 yo, B-cup, long dark blonde, fairly pretty, petite, 160 cm, bad teeth, one month at Sharks. In a room 3 min caressing, 22 min DATY with her intense O, another 15 min DATY with my five digits in her pussy, 5 min missionary, my 15 min massage on her. Repeat. In the past I have put my three fingers in the pussy of Ramona at Oase, four in Claudia at Oase, then five in Erza, almost fist sex.

2) Gianna: 1535-1625,100 E. Rom, 22 yo having a three-year-old son, A cup, long black hair, tanned, pretty, slim as model, 174 cm, two months at Sharks after Globe, basically no kiss with customers even at Globe! In a room 5 min caressing, 15 min DATY, another 10 min DATY with my two digits in her pussy with her intense O, 3 min cigarette break, 5 min BJ, 12 min missionary. Repeat.

3) Loretta: 1830-1930,100 E. Rom, 26 yo, slightly saggy B cup, long brunette, fairly pretty, slim, model, 165 cm, five months at Sharks, can kiss even for 30 min 50 E sessions. In a room caressing, 23 min DATY with her O, 2 min BJ, 3 min cowgirl, 2 min missionary, 3 min flat doggie, 13 min combination of miss and DATY, and my 15 min massage one her. May repeat..[/QUOTE]YamaYama,

I'm curious if you have some sort of FKK app on your smart watch or phone that allows you to keep such accurate times on your activities.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2247012]Agreed. But may be a sunk cost now, ever since the Sharks club enforces a 5 euros tariff on the girls each day for condoms. So effectively the girls have already paid for the condoms.[/QUOTE]The condoms they paid for are London, very difficult to get any feelings with them but still good enough for many mongers.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2246480]I did Claudia nine years ago at Oase. Nice that Claudia exhibits this old-school attitude. I like taller girls and even some MILFs. She deserves the good business. But she probably got 15+ guys because Sundays tend to have a higher percentage of value shoppers. You are one of the enlightened mongers that could go with 75 percent of the LU. For majority of the mongers, they won't be interested optically in Claudia. I do believe that Claudia tried to upsell 150 for 60 minute package (I believe it was reported by Turgid). He immediately negotiated her down. She happily accepted the offer, and gave good service, so there was a happy ending.......................[/QUOTE]For the record I never sessioned Claudia. I remember chatting with a skinny Brazilian last summer but I can't recall her name; she would have gladly done a half hour 50 E session with me but I spied more enticing quarry. I don't remember doing any 100 E sessions in Sharks, I won't say that I did not but I just can't recall any out of my dozens of sessions. Too lazy to check my summer posts.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2247008]You were building up to fisting Ezra at Sharks ....[/QUOTE]Thanks for your comments about my reports, Bitumen. YY.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2246758]No meaning after cut, I meant Uncle posts are the most entertaining for me, much more than boring: I fuck her in all holes, not interesting for me, I don t need lessons about fucking, just matter of feeling and listening girl body.[/QUOTE]Hi Sirioja,

I know what you talked about. No worry. Thank you for comments to my reports.

One thing I would like to ask you. It seems that you always suggest good-looking girls to go to work at Globe Zurich. It would become a headache if one of my dream girls takes your insightful advice to move to Globe. For I could not afford to play games with three times price. LOL.

For example, I consider the 18 year-old [B]Xenia[/B], or Senja, is more pretty than Megan. If Megan survives in Globe, then Xenia wold. . . If Xenia went to Globe because of your suggestions, would you compensate me, if I follow her to Globe, for the difference of price between Sharks and Globe?

Just a joke.

[QUOTE=Rikki90;2246981]50 e was a tip from me because she was a very good.[/QUOTE]Good work Rikki90. You have a good heart. Thank you for the reply.

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2247142]YamaYama,

I'm curious if you have some sort of FKK app on your smart watch or phone that allows you to keep such accurate times on your activities.[/QUOTE]YamaYama, just takes notice of things and keeps attention.

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2247140]I thought something similar when she told me she was going back to university. It's odd that her school starts in November. I do believe she has some higher level of education based on our conversations.[/QUOTE]I am sorry Chongmal, that was meant to be a joke. The implication was she is not going to any educational facility.

The amount of girls who claim that they are at university using this job to support them and this story is untrue is beyond. You quiz them on a few things and they cannot answer or refuse to answer or change the subject.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2247258]I am sorry Chongmal, that was meant to be a joke. The implication was she is not going to any educational facility.
The amount of girls who claim that they are at university using this job to support them and this story is untrue is beyond. You quiz them on a few things and they cannot answer or refuse to answer or change the subject.[/QUOTE]From what I gather from quite a few girls, there exists private 'Universities' in Romania which are considerably more expensive than the state-run ones. These have a totally flexible schedule. But the girls have to physically turn up at some location in Romania once or twice a year for just 1-2 weeks to take an 'examination'. This is so that the 'University' can truthfully assert that it has examined the student. How hard the examinations will be and how long it will take depends on the $$$$ paid. With $$$$$$$$ paid, it could be just a 2-day event. After 4 years, they get their 'diploma'. I have still not yet figured out though why they really want/need this piece of paper.

The accounts from these girls are quite consistent, so I suspect there is some truth there. Once I cheekily asked one girl whether, being so pretty and experienced in FKKs, she could pay in kind rather than in $$$$, and she said 'no', which was why she needed to make more $$$$ to fund her examiners, in addition to funding her apartment, sick mother, education of younger siblings, etc.

As for knowledge of subject matter, many of them (those who go back for 'studies' at unusual times of the year) know what the titles of the core modules are. I guess they should know this as payment would be attached to these titles. But once I give any indication that I might know something about these areas, most would as you say change the subject immediately.

There are some real university students though, but they appear only during the Christmas and Easter vacations for about 1-2 weeks each, and during the summer months, and these know their subjects in depth.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2246978]Hey Rikki, may you explain the price of 200 bucks for a half hour with anal butt fuck up Viorica's asshole?

The price for standard half hour is 50 bucks and the additional of anal ass sex is an additional 100 bucks making a total of 150 bucks. Was there also a CIM or COF ending as well to make 200 bucks or was that the tip for Viorica to make her happy?[/QUOTE]50 e was a tip because she make very good service.

I really recommend her.

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2247251]Hi Sirioja,

I know what you talked about. No worry. Thank you for comments to my reports.

One thing I would like to ask you. It seems that you always suggest good-looking girls to go to work at Globe Zurich. It would become a headache if one of my dream girls takes your insightful advice to move to Globe. For I could not afford to play games with three times price. LOL.

For example, I consider the 18 year-old [B]Xenia[/B], or Senja, is more pretty than Megan. If Megan survives in Globe, then Xenia wold. . . If Xenia went to Globe because of your suggestions, would you compensate me, if I follow her to Globe, for the difference of price between Sharks and Globe?

Just a joke.[/QUOTE]When I find " about fucking" reports not interesting and boring, I don t care what other do for sex, only Yam makes me laugh, I hope he tastes or touch with fingers to be sure, rather than moaning, sometimes you stop licking her and some girls keep on moaning, so have to ask to turn off sound. German superstar at Globe became very silent looking at me like scared when her whole body was shaking. Sometimes liquid on the bed. But I prefer stories between girls and boys, white on a day, black on the next, sometimes becoming white again few months later, FKK game you have to deal with, among bullshits and jealousy.

About Globe, I followed Katalina at Globe and what a welcome from her on first time she saw me before I recognized her new look, saying: I remember how you treated me at Sharks, for our single 2 hours 2 rounds room when I was so exhausted, when she didn't like Sharks business. When Megan knew I was going to Globe, she asked me about, she didn't like everything for 50 € business at Sharks, why she turned to Asian business when she was not at all on this business when she started. Very difficult start for her at Globe, she was refused on her first time and returned to Sharks, then she started in reserve team, meaning working when not enough girls. If You ask Globe management about Megan and Svenja beauty, no comparison, Megan is a model type, Svenja just a cute GND even very friendly and enthusiastic in room, but not impressive enough to get business at Globe. Girls at Globe have much more impressive and sophisticated look than at Sharks and on average much more woman behavior in bed, why do you want I pay 130/30 mn rather than 50? I'm not Asian. On the September day I discovered Svenja I was advised by a Swiss I also meet at Globe, among a really low casting and Leoni. De saying not kissing, so not for me, we both told her she is not on Globe level, for her body care, lack of sensuality, not a woman yet, but she is only 18 yo, this is not not normal. Megan, even sometimes busy, the only one who run after Asians as she learned to survive at Sharks, is not a top star at Globe, but I m happy for her she makes her business and better for her private life. As she told me: my advice was excellent, to thank her for dreams in daylight. But I didn't drive her.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2247278]From what I gather from quite a few girls, there exists private 'Universities' in Romania which are considerably more expensive than the state-run ones. These have a totally flexible schedule. But the girls have to physically turn up at some location in Romania once or twice a year for just 1-2 weeks to take an 'examination'. This is so that the 'University' can truthfully assert that it has examined the student. How hard the examinations will be and how long it will take depends on the $$$$ paid. With $$$$$$$$ paid, it could be just a 2-day event. After 4 years, they get their 'diploma'. I have still not yet figured out though why they really want/need this piece of paper.

The accounts from these girls are quite consistent, so I suspect there is some truth there. Once I cheekily asked one girl whether, being so pretty and experienced in FKKs, she could pay in kind rather than in $$$$, and she said 'no', which was why she needed to make more $$$$ to fund her examiners, in addition to funding her apartment, sick mother, education of younger siblings, etc..[/QUOTE]Sorry it is a legend, Romania is part of Europe and the diploma have a value, very few real students in clubs but it is also true that very occasionally there will be a real student in a club during summer holiday, you just need to check my comments with the top managers of the clubs they will confirm my thoughts.

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2247142]YamaYama, I'm curious if you have some sort of FKK app on your smart watch or phone that allows you to keep such accurate times on your activities.[/QUOTE]No so smart, I've got an old-fashioned chronograph with me.

Clearly, this is part of the illusion. So simply enjoy it.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2247258]

The amount of girls who claim that they are at university using this job to support them and this story is untrue is beyond. You quiz them on a few things and they cannot answer or refuse to answer or change the subject.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2247417]Clearly, this is part of the illusion. So simply enjoy it.[/QUOTE]That is what I did when they told me that they were working on their college degree or master degree.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2247278]As for knowledge of subject matter, many of them (those who go back for 'studies' at unusual times of the year) know what the titles of the core modules are. I guess they should know this as payment would be attached to these titles. But once I give any indication that I might know something about these areas, most would as you say change the subject immediately.[/QUOTE]If these "educational institutions" are handing out diplomas based on how much money the girls spend then I will definitely not be interested in recruiting any Romanians to go along with the other Europeans working. Really. Commonsense.

I keep getting told that the girl missed the deadline for matriculation for a class so hence they are working the period before they can matriculate again. But that seems to happen for like 3 to 4 years in a row. They always seem to forget to complete the registration and starting to attend class process.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2247278]There are some real university students though, but they appear only during the Christmas and Easter vacations for about 1-2 weeks each, and during the summer months, and these know their subjects in depth. [/QUOTE]So this is really good that the German license laws are efficient and quick to complete.

These working girls to work temporarily in a FKK or brothel can book an appointment at the police station or registrar and then go in to get a photo licence, attend a class on the bad ways of prostitution, go to see the local nurse to be taught how to use a condom seems to be a really quick process and it is worth the hefty registration fee to do this. All this effort to work for the 1 to 2 weeks during the school holidays to make some cash. I guess its worth it to do that coming from Romania and you have time to sit around waiting for all these appointments to happen to get your licence. Even for local German girls too. Ho will be pleased to know this.

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2247251]One thing I would like to ask you. It seems that you always suggest good-looking girls to go to work at Globe Zurich. It would become a headache if one of my dream girls takes your insightful advice to move to Globe. For I could not afford to play games with three times price. LOL.

Just a joke.[/QUOTE]Never fear Unca Ox, the rules and regulations of working at Globe are very strict that you find many of the girls who have problems adhering to a work schedule or to rules find it very difficult to continue to work at Globe and therefore come back to what they know which is Germany (or Spain).

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2247256]YamaYama, just takes notice of things and keeps attention.[/QUOTE]LOL, the fact you say Chronograph means a bit more to some than others. I rarely take my chronograph to clubs because it draws too much attention and raises expectations beyond my comfort level. I've only intentionally taken it to clubs twice, both times to show women how illogical it is to buy such a chronograph unless you have money to burn. Also, the weight of such a device can be uncomfortable to many. In most cases I use my watch in the clubs but places like Sharks and YY make this less convenient.

I've been considering wearing my Ironman digital with stop watch and lap split option. This way I hit the split at the start of each new activity and then I only need to remember the sequence of activities. So when I start reporting 29 m43's session times with 3 m22's DFK, 5 m47's DATY, etc. You know that I've made the switch. My problem is more an age thing. My memory often fails me and my sessions may be easier tracked on a sundial and calendar.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2247258]I am sorry Chongmal, that was meant to be a joke. The implication was she is not going to any educational facility.

The amount of girls who claim that they are at university using this job to support them and this story is untrue is beyond. You quiz them on a few things and they cannot answer or refuse to answer or change the subject.[/QUOTE]No reason to apologize, I have no reason to be offended. I have interacted with Scarlet a few times across two days. From our conversations it's clear she has at a minimum read some books on her hobby.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2247492]So this is really good that the German license laws are efficient and quick to complete.
These working girls to work temporarily in a FKK or brothel can book an appointment at the police station or registrar and then go in to get a photo licence, attend a class on the bad ways of prostitution, go to see the local nurse to be taught how to use a condom seems to be a really quick process and it is worth the hefty registration fee to do this. All this effort to work for the 1 to 2 weeks during the school holidays to make some cash. I guess its worth it to do that coming from Romania and you have time to sit around waiting for all these appointments to happen to get your licence. [/QUOTE]The 2 such girls I know faced a somewhat different situation. Both had already been working in Germany before, so their deadline to get registered was 31st December 2017 rather than 30th June 2017.

The 2 girls came back during their Easter vacation in April 2018, went to the police station and was told that their appointment to register would be more than 1 month later, but that they could work in the FKK as long as they had made an appointment (since they produced evidence that they had worked in that FKK before). However, as they had to return to Romania after their Easter vacation, they subsequently postponed their appointment date to July. During their summer vacation in July, they duly came back and spent an afternoon to fill up some forms that took 10 minutes, with the rest of the time in that afternoon getting briefed on how to put on a condom by a woman who they said sounded very uncertain on how to put a condom safely on. So, downtime was just 1 afternoon.

Hi,

I had a good time with "Jill" a month ago.

26 year old and from German with short hair, does she still work?

Have you seen anyone. Could you give me some information about her?

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My only opportunity to swing into Sharks for several months will be on Sunday, December 23. This presents two possible problems: Sunday and the day before Christmas Eve. What do you think it's going to look like in there? I could maybe possibly try to swing back by during the week between Christmas and NYE if that would make a significant difference in the LU, but it's not ideal.

My trip there last July was great and I live in a particularly conservative part of my country where the women are mostly cows with bad attitudes, so I'm sure I could find someone who meets my standard as long as there are more than a handful of girls there.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2247492]If these "educational institutions" are handing out diplomas based on how much money the girls spend then I will definitely not be interested in recruiting any Romanians to go along with the other Europeans working. Really. Commonsense.

I keep getting told that the girl missed the deadline for matriculation for a class so hence they are working the period before they can matriculate again. But that seems to happen for like 3 to 4 years in a row. They always seem to forget to complete the registration and starting to attend class process.

So this is really good that the German license laws are efficient and quick to complete.

These working girls to work temporarily in a FKK or brothel can book an appointment at the police station or registrar and then go in to get a photo licence, attend a class on the bad ways of prostitution, go to see the local nurse to be taught how to use a condom seems to be a really quick process and it is worth the hefty registration fee to do this. All this effort to work for the 1 to 2 weeks during the school holidays to make some cash. I guess its worth it to do that coming from Romania and you have time to sit around waiting for all these appointments to happen to get your licence. Even for local German girls too. Ho will be pleased to know this.[/QUOTE]Not so easy, don't believe that all the girls are free to be prostitute, to suck and fuck every guys is not a normal job and the consequences can be serious for the mental health. Also to register they need a fix address.

I was at Sharks and was happy.

Lots of good looking girls working there and prices went up as many girls want 100 euro, they offer kisses but most only gives LDK! This is not really a kiss IMO.

Anyways. I met with Jaz who sits on sofa under the stairs to the Jacuzi, she is Moldavian and I like her. Good service and I enjoyed my time with her, she promised kisses but in room only LFK, she didn't demand for 100 euro so I give her 50/30 min.

I also met Scarlet. Good services but nothing special.

Met few other which included Serena, Alexandra, Erica and Tami.

Mona was the best in this trip. I knew her from previous trips and she is high service provider and cute.

Sadly I didn't see my Super star girl (Betty).

Her friends told me she is in Romania, I don't know if they are telling the truth but they said she will return!

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2245104]Your comment wasn't directed at me but I have a couple questions. Do you think it helps if someone posts a larger lineup list? I'm curious because I do this occasionally for another club that I frequent.
I think if I were to spent four weekends in Sharks my list of names would be 60-80 long. It's more difficult with so many women buzzing rapidly around your head all day and not being able to have my phone with me to take notes and check them off as I've seen them.[/QUOTE]Those lists don't really help. Because the most important thing is how "chemistry" works between us and the women we meet. On that very day we are there in the club! The only thing that helps is awareness in every situation. Of who you are, what you want and what you don't want!

So, stay in contact with your feelings, widen your awareness and define what is important for you when you meet women. And forget about thought fucking (line-up lists!) when you are far away from these clubs.

The further one is away from these brothels or FKK-clubs, the more those lists grow into importance as substitue for the life not lived where one is right now. As long as we read lists that someone else has posted, we are not there in the club! And we always read about the past! Who wants yesterday's papers? Life is now!

Better let's stay centered within ourselves! No need to create a center of attraction outside ourselves, e. G. Let's not make one or more prostitute (s) the center of our hopes or life!

Too much time spent in internet is bad for joy in life, true in FKK clubs too.

For those who are afraid that there are not enough women there, on this weekend there were far more than 150 women in the club per night, some women even said there were more than 200 working girls there!

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2247744]Those lists don't really help. Because the most important thing is how "chemistry" works between us and the women we meet. On that very day we are there in the club! The only thing that helps is awareness in every situation. Of who you are, what you want and what you don't want!

So, stay in contact with your feelings, widen your awareness and define what is important for you when you meet women. And forget about thought fucking (line-up lists!) when you are far away from these clubs.

The further one is away from these brothels or FKK-clubs, the more those lists grow into importance as substitue for the life not lived where one is right now. As long as we read lists that someone else has posted, we are not there in the club! And we always read about the past! Who wants yesterday's papers? Life is now!

Better let's stay centered within ourselves! No need to create a center of attraction outside ourselves, e. G. Let's not make one or more prostitute (s) the center of our hopes or life!

Too much time spent in internet is bad for joy in life, true in FKK clubs too.

For those who are afraid that there are not enough women there, on this weekend there were far more than 150 women in the club per night, some women even said there were more than 200 working girls there![/QUOTE]Fully online with you, like fisherman or hunter (my fish was 1 meter long, my deer two meters high) some mongers are emphasizing their own experiences with the girls.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2247744]Those lists don't really help. Because the most important thing is how "chemistry" works between us and the women we meet. As long as we read lists that someone else has posted, we are not there in the club! And we always read about the past! Who wants yesterday's papers? Life is now!
[/QUOTE]I'm afraid you can wax lyrical all day Nick. For some of us, we like the lists. They can inform who appears to have great chemistry outside the room but gives poor service in it. When mongering, yesterdays papers are very important to some of us.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2247744]The further one is away from these brothels or FKK-clubs, the more those lists grow into importance as substitue for the life not lived where one is right now. As long as we read lists that someone else has posted, we are not there in the club! And we always read about the past! Who wants yesterday's papers? Life is now!.[/QUOTE]That's one perspective of someone who does not have to travel. Living far away but coming somewhat regularly, lists are very informative. When you know how long some girls typically work before getting tired and knowing how long their breaks are, I can predict with some dependable certainty if a girl will be working when I plan on being there. Will she be fresh when I arrive or will she be worn out and at the end of a 2 month working marathon. This helps me plan my 2 week trips helping me to decide if I want to prioritize hitting Hessen immediately or NRW first. Is it worth it for me to visit a certain club if I know a girl is sexed out? Maybe a girl has been gone so I know she will be back soon and fresh.

[QUOTE=Tuber19;2247668]Sadly I didn't see my Super star girl (Betty).

Her friends told me she is in Romania, I don't know if they are telling the truth but they said she will return![/QUOTE]If betty is your superstar, then just ask her for whatsapp or fb.

Then you always know when she will be working.

[QUOTE=Paco1013;2247577]My only opportunity to swing into Sharks for several months will be on Sunday, December 23. This presents two possible problems: Sunday and the day before Christmas Eve. What do you think it's going to look like in there? I could maybe possibly try to swing back by during the week between Christmas and NYE if that would make a significant difference in the LU, but it's not ideal.

My trip there last July was great and I live in a particularly conservative part of my country where the women are mostly cows with bad attitudes, so I'm sure I could find someone who meets my standard as long as there are more than a handful of girls there.[/QUOTE]Compare Christmas lineup and now, then the Christmas lineup will be pretty poor.

But compare the Christmas lineup with other FKK club during the Christmas time, then its probably the best.

Sharks offers the girls special Christmas bonus, to keep the lineup at high level.

Last Friday some girls said, there was over 300 !! Working girls in club. Truth or not.

Fact is that all girl lockers were occupied.

Both Nick and Takedown have valid points, but to add to the discussion here, I think the main reason people want these lists when being physically far away, is to feel like they are in some sort of control over the situation, and take ownership over their coming trip. After the first few visits of scouting a new club, most people probably want to know how much things have changed, and that level of newness can be considered both good at bad, but for alternating purposes, or depending on the mind of the traveller. It is a mental and psychological issue, and has less to do with the actual usage.

This probably has more to do with psychoanalysis than anything else. And as in most psychoanalysis, there is rarely a clear right or wrong.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2247744]Those lists don't really help. Because the most important thing is how "chemistry" works between us and the women we meet. On that very day we are there in the club! The only thing that helps is awareness in every situation. Of who you are, what you want and what you don't want!
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If you don't like the lineup lists, then just ignore it.

A lot people find them helpful, including me.

There are lots of posts, which I find them useless, but for others might help.

Hey guys,

Anyone know if Brenda is still around? Thinking of stopping by Sharks later this week for some DD action.

Thanks. Howie.

[QUOTE=Howie;2247955]Hey guys,

Anyone know if Brenda is still around? Thinking of stopping by Sharks later this week for some DD action.

Thanks. Howie.[/QUOTE]She was seen two days ago according to a line-up list on another forum.

[QUOTE=Howie;2247955]Hey guys,

Anyone know if Brenda is still around? Thinking of stopping by Sharks later this week for some DD action.

Thanks. Howie.[/QUOTE]Brenda was there on this weekend.

Hi all,

Lurking on this forum for quite a long time. Thank you so much for sharing information and advice.

I will be at Sharks from Nov 18-21. Want to check out Mandy, Jazz, Kimberly, pussy Rom girl, etc. If you are around and want to talk between sessions, PM me. I am Asian and will be wearing the black-rimmed glasses.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2247843]Both Nick and Takedown have valid points, but to add to the discussion here,[/QUOTE]I agree both have valid points as do you but my take on it is fuck those lists. Yes I had a list in the RLD for my latest ventures but that list was for different reasons. It is nice to read the names but if I didn't know from other websites and research elsewhere and judged by just posts here I would have thought Sharks had only 10-15 girls on the floor and Mandy and Evita racking up 99 percent of the business just based on reviews and discussions back in 2016-17. Yet there is so much more and so many different types which is why I monger and I think picking your own prey is half the fun and a gamble perhaps as to service. Let the dice roll. One man's cup of tea might not be mine and my cup of tea (at least some of them) others would never drink nor touch the cup for that matter. It is nice to have an idea and maybe hit one but very few of the top Sharks (Pole Dancers as a group) reviewed did it for me and general population usually houses my choices. There are 60 plus girls ready to fuck for a reason and if we all fucked off the same list we might all be fucking ourselves ( and worse perhaps missing out on the ' perfect' pick for you) with wait times for a girl that we read was ' this or that' for another man, not us and as one girl told me ' you guy's are like snowflakes, no two alike'.

I tend to lean to Nick's train of though even though like Takedown I am a tourist but he likes to use one or have one at his disposal as that system works for him so I wouldn't argue it won't bit.

That being said although I personally find lists useless in these clubs I think the information from the board guys use to make those lists is vital (for some) and it spurns discussions be it about that girl or some kind of a tangent subject so all for the posts, the more the merrier as we all use the board to suit our needs.

[QUOTE=Howie;2247955]Hey guys,

Anyone know if Brenda is still around? Thinking of stopping by Sharks later this week for some DD action.

Thanks. Howie.[/QUOTE]Dungeons and Dragons with Brenda? That sounds super fun. Speaking of Brenda, someone posted that there was a Brenda look alike at Oase. I want to confirm the girl they spoke about was no Brenda. That girl had a soft belly and large tits that drooped down. Brenda's a unicorn.

[QUOTE=Howie;2247955]Hey guys,

Anyone know if Brenda is still around? Thinking of stopping by Sharks later this week for some DD action.

Thanks. Howie.[/QUOTE]You must like sagging boobs, clean girl but 0 chemistry with me.

Hence just keep the lists coming without criticism. Enough people have voiced their opinions that they find them useful. Why are people still criticizing? Thanks again to those who publish. Many here appreciate the info despite others thinking that there is a correct way to monger.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2248073]I agree both have valid points as do you but my take on it is fuck those lists. Yes I had a list in the RLD for my latest ventures but that list was for different reasons. It is nice to read the names but if I didn't know from other websites and research elsewhere and judged by just posts here I would have thought Sharks had only 10-15 girls on the floor and Mandy and Evita racking up 99 percent of the business just based on reviews and discussions back in 2016-17. Yet there is so much more and so many different types which is why I monger and I think picking your own prey is half the fun and a gamble perhaps as to service. Let the dice roll. One man's cup of tea might not be mine and my cup of tea (at least some of them) others would never drink nor touch the cup for that matter. It is nice to have an idea and maybe hit one but very few of the top Sharks (Pole Dancers as a group) reviewed did it for me and general population usually houses my choices. There are 60 plus girls ready to fuck for a reason and if we all fucked off the same list we might all be fucking ourselves ( and worse perhaps missing out on the ' perfect' pick for you) with wait times for a girl that we read was ' this or that' for another man, not us and as one girl told me ' you guy's are like snowflakes, no two alike'..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PokerWiesBaden;2247835]If betty is your superstar, then just ask her for whatsapp or fb.

Then you always know when she will be working.[/QUOTE]You must be luckier than others to receive Betty's Whatsapp or Facebook. Some are required to complete heavy investment in Betty's financial demands to be honored with those digits.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2247520]The 2 such girls I know faced a somewhat different situation. Both had already been working in Germany before, so their deadline to get registered was 31st December 2017 rather than 30th June 2017.

The 2 girls came back during their Easter vacation in April 2018, went to the police station and was told that their appointment to register would be more than 1 month later, but that they could work in the FKK as long as they had made an appointment (since they produced evidence that they had worked in that FKK before). However, as they had to return to Romania after their Easter vacation, they subsequently postponed their appointment date to July. During their summer vacation in July, they duly came back and spent an afternoon to fill up some forms that took 10 minutes, with the rest of the time in that afternoon getting briefed on how to put on a condom by a woman who they said sounded very uncertain on how to put a condom safely on. So, downtime was just 1 afternoon.[/QUOTE]Well that is good for the freelancers that come in from the East that have worked in Germany before. They can continue to work now having registered.

Is this also the case too that new girls can work in the club without a licence who are brand new to Germany which is what Ho was after. From what you are saying, and correct me, it seems that new girls who cannot prove that they have worked in Germany clubs or brothels before cannot provisionally work in a club until they have become registered with the authorities. The implication of this is that there will be a delay with new girls starting up creating a barrier to new girls working since they cannot just turn up on the day to start working. So we expect to see fewer and fewer of the short term freelancers making this a more professional vocation along the lines of other industries that require registration, training and payment of fees to be a member.

[QUOTE=Takedown;2248150]Hence just keep the lists coming without criticism. Enough people have voiced their opinions that they find them useful. Why are people still criticizing? Thanks again to those who publish. Many here appreciate the info despite others thinking that there is a correct way to monger.[/QUOTE]By all means keep them coming, as I said some find them useful.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2248073]
I tend to lean to Nick's train of though even though like Takedown I am a tourist but he likes to use one or have one at his disposal as that system works for him so I wouldn't argue it won't bit.

That being said although I personally find lists useless in these clubs I think the information from the board guys use to make those lists is vital (for some) and it spurns discussions be it about that girl or some kind of a tangent subject so all for the posts, the more the merrier as we all use the board to suit our needs.[/QUOTE]Like I said above some like to have that at their disposal as it works for them. The correct way to monger is to do what works for oneself.

I do not think anyone is criticizing lists nor arguing against posting lists as I stated above I personally find them useless yet think the information is vital (for some) . And I am happy for them if they make use of the lists.

So no one is discouraging these lists unless other posts out there are suggesting such. I'm just saying for me, not needed. I am going to go to the club anyway as my dates are set way in advance. Whatever LU is present is present. I am not in a position to pick and choose my days or girls based on any listed LU's. Also, if a girl is working on Sunday's list and I am going Wednesday it tells me nothing it would be like on Wednesday buying Sunday's newspaper. All I can do is show up and find out.

I'll look at lists or lineups out of curiosity but when it comes time to pick and choose the club to go to or the girl to fuck no lists needed. I'll take and choose from what is in front of me.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2248073] my take on it is fuck those lists.

I tend to lean to Nick's train of though

I personally find lists useless[/QUOTE]I take a different view adamantly to you.

I support with whole heart the posting of working girl line up lists. Like some, the girl line up lists are one of the most useful pieces of information to be found on this forum.

I do not find the common sense in guys writing that they do not find the girl line up lists as useful.

I am sure the reality is when someone bravely issues a working girl line up lists that everyone who reads will run their eye down that list to see if a particular girl is there, whether she is a pet love or a pet hate or just an idea of how many girls are there. Everyone takes a peek, even secretly at those line up lists.

There are numerous occasions of guys asking how big is the number in a line up, or asking if such and such working at the club right now. Even on this page alone, we have Howie asking if Brenda is working at Sharks. If someone had posted a comprehensive line up list then we would have answered Howie's question as an example of the usefulness of line up lists.

Guys may come only once a year, or even 100 times a year, I think its comforting for both to know if a girl they remember is there. It is their method when away from the clubs to vicariously get a thrill that a girl they know is still around.

Girl line up lists satisfy these requests or at least generates discussion which is the life blood of these forums. Lists, as such, are useful to all.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2248182]I do not think anyone is criticizing lists nor arguing against posting lists as I stated above I personally find them useless yet think the information is vital (for some) . And I am happy for them if they make use of the lists.

So no one is discouraging these lists unless other posts out there are suggesting such. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2247744]Those lists don't really help. Because the most important thing is how "chemistry" works between us and the women we meet. On that very day we are there in the club! The only thing that helps is awareness in every situation. Of who you are, what you want and what you don't want!



The further one is away from these brothels or FKK-clubs, the more those lists grow into importance as substitue for the life not lived where one is right now.[/QUOTE]Some kinda did while belittling people who appreciate them and fly in mongers at the same time.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2248187]I take a different view adamantly to you.

I support with whole heart the posting of working girl line up lists. Like some, the girl line up lists are one of the most useful pieces of information to be found on this forum.

I do not find the common sense in guys writing that they do not find the girl line up lists as useful.

Everyone takes a peek, even secretly at those line up lists.

There are numerous occasions of guys asking how big is the number in a line up, or asking if such and such working at the club right now. Even on this page alone, we have Howie asking if Brenda is working at Sharks. If someone had posted a comprehensive line up list then we would have answered Howie's question as an example of the usefulness of line up lists.

Guys may come only once a year, or even 100 times a year, I think its comforting for both to know if a girl they remember is there. [/QUOTE]See me reply to TD, I too support these megaclub LU lists. I just don't use them to make decisions but that is simply me. I am not judging those who do. I will confess, I take a peak at the Gypsy LUs but by that same token when I go to Day Care I will go without concern of the previous days or even that days LU as I have no choice. It is my ' assigned' day. I fuck who is there.

You are right in Howie's example, had a LU been posted Howie would know Brenda was working. In that sense useful for Howie. Now come a week later when Howie lands in Frankfurt and heads to Sharks there is a chance Brenda may not be there. So I guess yes helpful in the fact he knows Brenda is working at Sharks but hopefully one doesn't plan off an old list as the day of arrival that girl may not be there.

I just do not use these LU lists to decide to go to a club or not. If others do, great. We all have our own styles, whatever works..

We all have our own opinions, thanks for disagreeing and by the way.

Welcome back :D

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2248195]See me reply to TD, I too support these megaclub LU lists. I just don't use them to make decisions but that is simply me. I am not judging those who do. I will confess, I take a peak at the Gypsy LUs but by that same token when I go to Day Care I will go without concern of the previous days or even that days LU as I have no choice. It is my ' assigned' day. I fuck who is there.
[/QUOTE]You make good points in previous posts. But like I've maintained, you are quite unique for a fly-in-tourist, in that you find 75 percent of the LU optically acceptable. Most others are extremely "fussy" as Syzygies, one of the older list maintainers, used to say. Some mongers dismiss 97 percent of the LU, by just making two laps around the club, without needing to speak to a single WG.

With the example about Howie asking about Brenda. It seems to be more common that a poster will generally rattle the names of three WGs, like "I will be at Sharks for three days next week. Has anyone seen Brenda, Kadi, or Annika this week?" If they are all in this week, it is improbable that all three will be missing next week.

[QUOTE=PokerWiesBaden;2247839]
Last Friday some girls said, there was over 300 !! Working girls in club. Truth or not.
Fact is that all girl lockers were occupied.[/QUOTE]Rubbish! Around 150 to 160 girls last Friday. That's a lot anyway.

There are only 165 lockers for the girls.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2248195]See me reply to TD, I too support these megaclub LU lists. I just don't use them to make decisions but that is simply me. I am not judging those who do. I will confess, I take a peak at the Gypsy LUs but by that same token when I go to Day Care I will go without concern of the previous days or even that days LU as I have no choice. It is my ' assigned' day. I fuck who is there.

You are right in Howie's example, had a LU been posted Howie would know Brenda was working. In that sense useful for Howie. Now come a week later when Howie lands in Frankfurt and heads to Sharks there is a chance Brenda may not be there. So I guess yes helpful in the fact he knows Brenda is working at Sharks but hopefully one doesn't plan off an old list as the day of arrival that girl may not be there.[/QUOTE]Thank you and Peace to everyone who responded to my initial question, "do you think line-up lists are useful". The question came up when NickTheG noticed PokerWiesBaden had borrowed heavily from a line-up list on LustScout without indicating where the basis of the list originated. The fact that NickTheG recognized the similarity between the two lists means to me that even he at a minimum glances at the list posted on the other forum.

I still don't understand the animosity that I perceive in some of the exchanges back and forth. Perhaps because I don't read the Sharks forum or attend Sharks so often as I'm more often in NRW clubs.

My decision following all the feedback is that I will continue to occasionally publish a line-up for my regular club under their thread. I openly invite anyone else who wants to use it as the basis for a line-up for any other forum to do so. I offer this to the benefit of my fellow mongers to use how they wish. I will leave posting of the comprehensive line-up at Sharks to one of the local mongers who attends there regularly, perhaps someone who reads multiple forums regularly can ask to borrow their list as a starting point.

I'm happy to have discussions with anyone if we happen to meet in any club. If we are on my turf, we can discuss the habits of the ladies to help you decide who might be right for you. I recently met a fellow Icebear, who is normally found in the Frankfurt Area clubs, in a NRW club. After.

I discussion, he chose a lady I had provided input on and was off to the room. I didn't get the chance to catch up with him afterwards, but I hope that he enjoyed his time in NRW.

As diverse as we are, we all have at least one thing in common, we enjoy the talents of women we meet in Germany and around the world. Happy hunting.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2248315]Rubbish! Around 150 to 160 girls last Friday. That's a lot anyway.

There are only 165 lockers for the girls.[/QUOTE]This is from the German board: "It was in my opinion too much! A woman who has been at the Sharks for some time, told me after midnight the number of 230 CDL's for yesterday's Friday! Accordingly, many sat together for hours unoccupied, babbled and smoked, the sales of cigarettes must have been violent. The battle for the until 22 o'clock in my opinion a few Asians burned violently."

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2248315]Rubbish! Around 150 to 160 girls last Friday. That's a lot anyway.

There are only 165 lockers for the girls.[/QUOTE]300 ? Without drinking and seeing double, 150 girls? Too many for me to fuck them all, but how many desirable for look, elegance, and manners, to be motivated to spend money?

Were there enough motivated guys to give business to so many girls, mostly GND, some now asking 100 minimum?

Low casting on my last visit on September, but things can always change? When casting was good on mid June, with no upselling experienced on my 5 days on 2 week ends for my so fast left, top class Romanian, 25 yo beauty.

If LU lists are useless, then by extension trip reports are also useless, no? If John writes that Lisa kissed him, Debbie licked his balls, but Lexi did not suck his dick well, there is no guarantee when Greg visits the club the following week that Lisa will kiss him also, Debbie will lick his balls, that Lexi will suck his dick well or poorly. Or that any of the girls will even be there.

Ergo, should we stop writing reviews here? Chemistry is everything, and reviews are last week's news as we all know. What's the point?

Perhaps we can jettison all LU lists and reviews and focus just on Ho's master race people shaving their arseholes in the right squatting position, after we first go through his tutorials on "proper techniques to jerk off at home".

Seems really weird that a monger would not want a visitor to the club to post a LU list.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2248486]Perhaps we can jettison all LU lists and reviews and focus just on Ho's master race people shaving their arseholes in the right squatting position, after we first go through his tutorials on "proper techniques to jerk off at home".[/QUOTE]LOL! I personally find lu listings and reviews useful. I take most of the reviews with a grain of salt but I know some people here who are trustworthy and who know what good service means.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2248497]Seems really weird that a monger would not want a visitor to the club to post a LU list.[/QUOTE]

I do not think ( at least myself) that lists should not be published nor discouraged, I have yet to see that anywhere in my posts. Saying lists aren't used by them and saying lists should be banned/discouraged are not the same thing ( not even close) , nor should words be twisted to imply such. Lists are great for some but once in a club a long list posted in a public forum for me is not very useful what is useful once in a club is my eyes, my ears and my gut feelings and for me the thrill of picking ( or being hunted) by many a girl, tons not on any lists.. IMHO

and hopefully interpreted respectfully


[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2248486]If LU lists are useless, then by extension trip reports are also useless, no? If John writes that Lisa kissed him, Debbie licked his balls, but Lexi did not suck his dick well, there is no guarantee when Greg visits the club the following week that Lisa will kiss him also, Debbie will lick his balls, that Lexi will suck his dick well or poorly. Or that any of the girls will even be there.

Ergo, should we stop writing reviews here? Chemistry is everything, and reviews are last week's news as we all know. What's the point?

Perhaps we can jettison all LU lists and reviews and focus just on Ho's master race people shaving their arseholes in the right squatting position, after we first go through his tutorials on "proper techniques to jerk off at home".[/QUOTE]I don't think anyone should stop writing reviews / trip report's or LU lists. They serve their purposes to others, others can pick and choose from all info on the board including how to jerk off guides and sift out the info they feel is important ' to them. ' ' To them' in quotes as one guy may really use these lists and / or not care about reviews or care about reviews but not who was there etc. I can see how a review from yesterday could be labeled ' yesterday's news' just as a LU would be from three days prior but IMO.

And you are right, Debbie may be giving BBBJ today and when the reader shows up next week she no longer offers BBBJ, reviews are simply a guideline but any guy needs take in to account changing services, prices, the YMMV factor etc if they bump in to that girl and seek a session. And chemistry can be everything. Or lack of can ruin anything. I do not know about others but I do have an idea what many guys like or don't like based on their reviews / trip reports so if I bump in to that girl I sort of have a Point of reference although as you state she may not offer me up what another guy got I can store that info in the back of my head as I talk with her if I talk with her. For me I don't find LU lists at Sharks or a megaclub here useful, doesn't mean I won't read them out of curiosity but I am by no means saying they aren't useful for others. That being said keep them coming. I glance thru them, as someone pointed out they think Nick does too (if he does he does if he doesn't he doesn't) but the point of my posts is simply for me and my style I don't need these long megaclub lists to make any actually choices of venues to go to or decisions on who I will see. I have no issue with them. I have no issue if another looks for them daily and plans trips accordingly. My no means am I an advocate to the suppression of lists (or reviews) but by all means I am entitled to my opinion that these lists of 40-50-60 girls or whoever is working do not influence my mongering. I don't judge others if they love these lists, their choice. I respect that, regardless if I use them or not to make choices or decisions.

Sure, I will look to see if I recognize a name, but by no means will I choose to go to Oase because Raizza was on a list from last week or not go to Sharks because I didn't see Luci on a list from the day before. More likely I am going to post (along the lines of MacA's reply) a single ' ISO: Is Domenica back' as I did and ironically Nick replied ' she was. ' So I will say as Bituman pointed out in the Brenda / Howie situation had a list been posted than I would have known Domenica was back from holiday. Bituman it right, it would have been useful to know and I could have skipped the ISO. However, such information didn't have any impact on my decision to go to Sharks that day and in fact once there ' chemisty' was found with another girl, one who I have yet to even see on a list (or I didn't look.) So perhaps I will slightly amend my thoughts that lists are not useless but when it comes to my decision making they are a non-factor.

I have zero issues with the publications of lists, I have zero issues if someone finds my reviews useless as yesterday's news, zero issues if some guy wants to fly in with a preprinted list of four pole dancers and go to the bar and ask for them; his cock, his money his choice to monger as he sees fit. Not my duty to say he is wrong as one member basically is saying I did (unless they were referring to another member).

I am not sure where but somehow it appears myself or Nick are being accused or maybe implied of spewing some kind of venomous attack on posters who make lists and / or use them. I can not speak for Nick only for myself buy I have zero issues with anyone who uses lists to monger. Go for it. Whatever works. We are all different. Have fun.

No one's style is right or wrong, in fact all of our differences perhaps might be our greatest asset thus so many different kinds of posts. The more information be it a list, a review of a girl and even a guide on how to jerk off and make your cum fly 20 feet in the air etc is all info that can and should be posted and the reader can choose what info to read, skim, skip or use or not use and in the event they feel a poster is spewing venom or insulting others than simply ignore them.

It's just the internet. Use as one feels is applicable to them. If we do that, we are all winners.

Just kidding KK. We know and understand you didn't forbade anything, and were just stating that you personally find the LU lists of little use. But you can see how others might stretch similar reasoning to belittle girl reviews, club reviews, pretty much anything. Then we would not have much to discuss. Well, except master race ass shaving of course.

Cum fly shots upto 20 feet you say? I can only dream. These days, I am just trying to succeed on the first part of that equation. The flying part and the Odyssean journeys of 20 feet may need to wait until Google perfects their self driving technology, specialized for C(um challenged) -men and their semen.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2248516]Just kidding KK.

Cum fly shots upto 20 feet you say? I can only dream..[/QUOTE]Thanks for clarifying.

20 feet I think is for 25 yr old bucks and Mr. Ho who seems to have mastered such an art. I am about 20 days till the big 50, if I can shoot it 3 feet I am happy!! In honor of Mr. Ho I have not blown in 3 days so as much as I would like to impress him with a distance number I regret to inform Sir Ho that I doubt my first DNA lunch will see the light of day and will end up somewhere in the German sewer system underneath the RLD!

The banks open in 25 minutes here and I need some Euros. Due to my account I have I pay only 1.003 cents more than spot ( German ATM) so screw it will get them early.

Anyone have a list ( :D ) of banks with Euros in stock?

Just kidding. have a good Thanksgiving holiday all ...

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2248442]300 ? Without drinking and seeing double, 150 girls?[/QUOTE]Maybe someone has counted the tits and forgot to divide by 2. LOL.

Hey guys,

Anyone see if Amilia come back to work in the past few days? I will be landing on frankfurt tomorrow.

Many thanks. Hondafans.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2248610]Maybe someone has counted the tits and forgot to divide by 2. LOL.[/QUOTE]And Brenda counts for at least 10 girls for tits, so 20 girls on her own.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2248486]If LU lists are useless, then by extension trip reports are also useless, no? If John writes that Lisa kissed him, Debbie licked his balls, but Lexi did not suck his dick well, there is no guarantee when Greg visits the club the following week that Lisa will kiss him also, Debbie will lick his balls, that Lexi will suck his dick well or poorly. Or that any of the girls will even be there.

Ergo, should we stop writing reviews here? Chemistry is everything, and reviews are last week's news as we all know. What's the point?

Perhaps we can jettison all LU lists and reviews and focus just on Ho's master race people shaving their arseholes in the right squatting position, after we first go through his tutorials on "proper techniques to jerk off at home".[/QUOTE]I have to say that congratulations are very much in order to Jnpr30. This post is genuinely the best I've read in my years on this forum. I was laughing at the last paragraph every time I re-read it. Whether you are a fan of LU lists or not, this short analysis was absolutely spot on. It's so true that the YMMV mantra can be accurate. As someone else put. If you don't like lists just ignore the posts about it. But that doesn't totally capture what this post did. To raise the sensible point that one man might create chemistry with a Chixa where another cannot. Yama Yama seems to be able to get girls to accept a lot of digit insertion via his extreme DATY skills whereas most of those girls would object to most guys inserting one finger. No point in him saying a girl takes FIV if she'll only accept when close to orgasm as next guy might not have his skills and the whole review culture falls apart.

Lists can and do contain generic information which I find useful. Reviews even more so. If 5 guys all post reviews saying (from above) that Debbie licks balls I think its fair for me to assume when I meet her in the club that she will lick mine if I room with her. Result. Reviews were a positive contribution to my mongering experience. Chemistry played no part. I knew from previous research what she does and does not do.

However this is all otiose. What matters is how I shave my arsehole in a squatting position. I've been missing out. I need to read more reviews! Thank you so much for this hugely entertaining post. I truly loved it. Well done. Hilarious. For the avoidance of any doubt. Absolutely no sarcasm intended at all. I just LOVED this. Put the lid on it for me.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2248724]I have to say that congratulations are very much in order to Jnpr30. This post is genuinely the best I've read in my years on this forum. I was laughing at the last paragraph every time I re-read it. Whether you are a fan of LU lists or not, this short analysis was absolutely spot on. It's so true that the YMMV mantra can be accurate. As someone else put. If you don't like lists just ignore the posts about it. But that doesn't totally capture what this post did. To raise the sensible point that one man might create chemistry with a Chixa where another cannot. Yama Yama seems to be able to get girls to accept a lot of digit insertion via his extreme DATY skills whereas most of those girls would object to most guys inserting one finger. No point in him saying a girl takes FIV if she'll only accept when close to orgasm as next guy might not have his skills and the whole review culture falls apart.

Lists can and do contain generic information which I find useful. Reviews even more so. If 5 guys all post reviews saying (from above) that Debbie licks balls I think its fair for me to assume when I meet her in the club that she will lick mine if I room with her. Result. Reviews were a positive contribution to my mongering experience. Chemistry played no part. I knew from previous research what she does and does not do.

However this is all otiose. What matters is how I shave my arsehole in a squatting position. I've been missing out. I need to read more reviews! Thank you so much for this hugely entertaining post. I truly loved it. Well done. Hilarious. For the avoidance of any doubt. Absolutely no sarcasm intended at all. I just LOVED this. Put the lid on it for me.[/QUOTE]What matters is how wide is the LU, the ratio man to woman is one of the key to get great service, I know very well some girls who are also reading this forum and know some guys who are writing here and believe me they are just laughing when they see what the guy writes and what really is taking place in the room.

[QUOTE=HondaFans;2248638]Hey guys,

Anyone see if Amilia come back to work in the past few days? I will be landing on frankfurt tomorrow.

Many thanks. Hondafans.[/QUOTE]Neither Amalia nor her sister Elif have been there last Friday.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2248511]I do not think ( at least myself) that lists should not be published nor discouraged, I have yet to see that anywhere in my posts. Saying lists aren't used by them and saying lists should be banned/discouraged are not the same thing ( not even close) , nor should words be twisted to imply such. Lists are great for some but once in a club a long list posted in a public forum for me is not very useful what is useful once in a club is my eyes, my ears and my gut feelings and for me the thrill of picking ( or being hunted) by many a girl, tons not on any lists.. IMHO

and hopefully interpreted respectfully .........................................[/QUOTE]My post was actually not directed to you, I'm surprised you thought it was. You were perhaps a little hasty.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2249009]My post was actually not directed to you, I'm surprised you thought it was. You were perhaps a little hasty.[/QUOTE]Apologies for the hastiness, sorry for the misinterpretation. Carry on now and everyone have fun. Certainly more fun than this multi connection / overnight journey from prison to the other side of the pond. I am flying ' list free and proud' :D

Have a good week all.

Is Angelina (DE / COL) still working there?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2248497]Seems really weird that a monger would not want a visitor to the club to post a LU list.[/QUOTE]The only reason I can think of is a local who has animosity towards fly in mongers. You can get an idea of who feels this way, but who cares? If it wasn't for fly in mongers, mega clubs would not exist. Sharks, Oase, Palace, Mainhattan, Artemis, and even GoldenTime with it's Dutch, Belgian, and French clientele could not be supported by only German expendable income, or lack thereof.

[QUOTE=Takedown;2249253]The only reason I can think of is a local who has animosity towards fly in mongers. You can get an idea of who feels this way, but who cares? If it wasn't for fly in mongers, mega clubs would not exist. Sharks, Oase, Palace, Mainhattan, Artemis, and even GoldenTime with it's Dutch, Belgian, and French clientele could not be supported by only German expendable income, or lack thereof.[/QUOTE]When many Germans mostly go to clubs to meet, eat, drink, sauna, rather than going with girls, Turkish make business at night, buying bottles for club business, but not so high business for girls, some girls prefer to finish quite early, but foreigners spend money with girls.

NL and Belgium make work Vip GT, just have to look at cars on parking.

I'll be in Sharks for most of the next 2 days.

If anyone sees a relatively young Asian guy alone, feel free to come have a chat.

My luck, heading to Sharks tonight and the postal services didn't manage to deliver my pills. Any chance it's easy to get by before or during the visit? What's your experience?

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2248610]Maybe someone has counted the tits and forgot to divide by 2. LOL.[/QUOTE]LOL, lets hope they didn't count the dicks twice.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2248315]Rubbish! ..... There are only 165 lockers for the girls.[/QUOTE]True too for the blue bands with electronic chips that the girls get when checking in at the reception. But. , the girls who came later on that Friday then got these red bands that usually only the men get!

I asked again yesterday and the number of about 230 working girls was confirmed!

Several girls mentioned, that the club earned a lot alone from all the girls who came in, while due to the lack of men many girls during that day were having a real hard time to make enough money on that night to at least compensate for the usual expenses.

BTW. , still no Amalia and Elif there yesterday.

[QUOTE=HerrPuppetMaster;2249426]My luck, heading to Sharks tonight and the postal services didn't manage to deliver my pills. Any chance it's easy to get by before or during the visit? What's your experience?[/QUOTE]Sharks frontdesk used to sell Kamagra pouches each for 20 e (which online can be 2 or 3 e only) but you have to ask nicely and with discretion. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Silikon;2249148]Is Angelina (DE / COL) still working there?[/QUOTE]If she has many tattoos and silicon tits yes, I went with her last Sunday. Good session for 50 E, friendly girl.

The line up is good now, many new entries girls. But 70 80% of girls are the same all year.

I went with Sidonia, Ro 1 hour, good room.

I don't see Ayleen, Aus and her friend big boobs. Elektra? Mandy.

I saw new Tamaris, particularly girl with green eyes, Viorica, Annika, Emma (now blonde), Hannah, and other resident girl.

[QUOTE=HerrPuppetMaster;2249426]My luck, heading to Sharks tonight and the postal services didn't manage to deliver my pills. Any chance it's easy to get by before or during the visit? What's your experience?[/QUOTE]Forget that pills you don't need them to fuck prostitutes.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2249517]True too for the blue bands with electronic chips that the girls get when checking in at the reception. But. , the girls who came later on that Friday then got these red bands that usually only the men get!

I asked again yesterday and the number of about 230 working girls was confirmed!

Several girls mentioned, that the club earned a lot alone from all the girls who came in, while due to the lack of men many girls during that day were having a real hard time to make enough money on that night to at least compensate for the usual expenses.

BTW. , still no Amalia and Elif there yesterday.[/QUOTE]Nothing new, each year it is the same story before Christmas and new Year the girls are eager for cash. The girls have the choice to find a normal job but most of them are too lazy for that.

[QUOTE=Takedown;2249253]The only reason I can think of is a local who has animosity towards fly in mongers. You can get an idea of who feels this way, but who cares? If it wasn't for fly in mongers, mega clubs would not exist. Sharks, Oase, Palace, Mainhattan, Artemis, and even GoldenTime with it's Dutch, Belgian, and French clientele could not be supported by only German expendable income, or lack thereof.[/QUOTE]With less tourist business, there was less inflation and better service. All the clubs existed before tourist and would have existed otherwise as 200 euro a day for a girl is a lot for the countries they come from. But why work hard when they have what you like to call fly in mongers. Oh men, this will be my last response to you, not even basic game theory principles will appeal.

[QUOTE=MrStev;2249621]I don't see Ayleen, Aus and her friend big boobs. Elektra? Mandy.
I saw new Tamaris, particularly girl with green eyes[/QUOTE]On Wednesday, Ayleen, Kylie (Elektra) and Mandy were all there.

Tamaris was not there. Maybe she already left Sharks to go back to Finca Erotica (as already announced by her some time ago).

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2249813]On Wednesday, Ayleen, Kylie (Elektra) and Mandy were all there.

Tamaris was not there. Maybe she already left Sharks to go back to Finca Erotica (as already announced by her some time ago).[/QUOTE]Hey Nick, I just realize something: You, my friend, are one of the best providers of LU lists for this Sharks thread. I mean, consistently your posts tend to furnish fresh hard data on which specific girls are present or absent at the club. You are definitely a "List Meister" because if we call up your all your posts from, say, the past couple of months, do a bit of cut and splicing here and there, well you've given us the clear picture.

Thanks so much for this great list-providing service. And all along I had the false impression that you were not a great fan of lists: boy was I wrong! I am now a member of your fan club. Good job and keep at it Mann!

[QUOTE=Ortos;2249874]Hey Nick, I just realize something: You, my friend, are one of the best providers of LU lists for this Sharks thread. I mean, consistently your posts tend to furnish fresh hard data on which specific girls are present or absent at the club. You are definitely a "List Meister" because if we call up your all your posts from, say, the past couple of months, do a bit of cut and splicing here and there, well you've given us the clear picture.

Thanks so much for this great list-providing service. And all along I had the false impression that you were not a great fan of lists: boy was I wrong! I am now a member of your fan club. Good job and keep at it Mann![/QUOTE]It is more that I am lazy. If it is a question about a specific girl, or three or four names of girls I know and happened to see there, then I can add something here.

The girls MrStev missed on Sunday were there two days before on Friday and then again three day later on Wednesday, but not on that very Sunday in between. That is the thing with the usefulness of "yesterday's papers".

[QUOTE=Danny227;2249729]With less tourist business, there was less inflation and better service. All the clubs existed before tourist and would have existed otherwise as 200 euro a day for a girl is a lot for the countries they come from. But why work hard when they have what you like to call fly in mongers. Oh men, this will be my last response to you, not even basic game theory principles will appeal.[/QUOTE]Yeah Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan, Palace are inflated but you still have clubs like Babylon, Finca, Bernds, Bahama, Atlanta, Dietz, Aca, and so on for which to be grateful.

I do have a couple of questions. Why is it that Hamburg clubs have so much upsell yet there are so few tourists there? If tourists are the main cause of upsell, then why are the Czech, Polish, and Russian girls no longer around to collect on these big spenders? I think these are fair questions to pose in light of your implied animosity towards auslanders.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2249729]With less tourist business, there was less inflation and better service. All the clubs existed before tourist and would have existed otherwise as 200 euro a day for a girl is a lot for the countries they come from. But why work hard when they have what you like to call fly in mongers. Oh men, this will be my last response to you, not even basic game theory principles will appeal.[/QUOTE]What about drive in mongers. A Dietz reg told me he used to go to the Dusseldorf areas club but the 'drive ins' from Belgium, Holland, France etc. are forcing prices up and service levels down many tipping. A Mainhatten girl told me after the Asians the Germans are the biggest tippers (American ' fly ins' behind them). Perhaps times have changed. I don't doubt things in the past were different as you say. Even the Gypsies would cry if they only made 200 Euros a day in the year 2018 (by 2 PM!) .

Everyone loves to blame the fly ins, it is amazing how so many girls talk about how generous the Germans are. I bet if it weren't for fly ins like Takedown and I that DFK BBBJ DATY Fucking at Palace would be only 50 e and Sharks could give out Viagras by Phizer not cheap Kamagra. I actually heard if you are discreet and show proof of a 7 day or less receipt for a manicure that the Sharks receptionist will not only give you Viagra but if you kill her with kindness and charm her she will take you in the back room where the laundry is done and let you finger and fist her!

But you have to be respectful and the FIV is only for fly ins!

Takedown is in luck! :D

[QUOTE=Danny227;2249729]With less tourist business, there was less inflation and better service. All the clubs existed before tourist and would have existed otherwise as 200 euro a day for a girl is a lot for the countries they come from. But why work hard when they have what you like to call fly in mongers. Oh men, this will be my last response to you, not even basic game theory principles will appeal.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure how long you have been participating in this hobby, but I seriously doubt that you remember a time before touring mongers were visiting Germany for the purpose of sex. My first introduction to the scene in Germany was courtesy of a British tourist who I met in a gasthaus in 1984. I asked what brought him across the channel and he told me. I asked if I could ride along and he took me into Hamburg. Even before this, as far back as the 60's foreigners were enjoying the reaperbahn. John Lennon is quoted as saying, "I didn't grow up in Liverpool, I grew up in Hamburg". I don't think he was talking about ages 1 to 18, and given that the Beatles played nearby, I'm sure they visited the P4 P sex scene on a few occasions. I'm not saying there aren't more foreigners than before, just that even with past levels they would be more noticed in this environment.

What is different now is the construct of the Saauna Clubs. These days, mongers stay in one place for several hours at a time, in establishments lighted well enough to to see more than 1 meter in front of you. This allows you to see the man who is coming back from the room with your favorite or top target, however you say. When you see this, maybe it bothers you to realize he is someone you would really rather not follow. This may not be the case, but I know that it is for some mongers. There are still some smaller clubs that are mostly German clients, but these are harder to find after the fall of the flat rate clubs. I visited one club this past year where my local friend told me not to speak until after we were inside the club or risk being turned away. Now that I'm known I can get into the club without him being there to front for me.

Lastly, I hate to hear people say that €200 per day is a lot of money where these women are from. What is what where they are from doesn't mean jack once they arrive in Germany, because once here their cost of living is based on local prices. The only benefits they have is that in a non tracked or reported cash business they can minimize their taxes. What very few men calculate is that the average woman in the business has about €3000 to €3500 in operating expenses, entry, hotel, taxi to and from work, nails, etc. If they average €500 per day that's six or seven days before they make the first profit, and that's not counting the portion of their earnings the tax authority will take.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2249729]With less tourist business, there was less inflation and better service. All the clubs existed before tourist and would have existed otherwise as 200 euro a day for a girl is a lot for the countries they come from. But why work hard when they have what you like to call fly in mongers. Oh men, this will be my last response to you, not even basic game theory principles will appeal.[/QUOTE]Sharks was a small club with 30/40 girls in 2013, about 50 on 2014, 150 sometimes since November 2016, but lower casting for beauties. Top girls don't stay for cheap 50 at Sharks, they prefer clubs with better business. Castings are on clients level, even GT casting is disappointing on November. Germans don't make clubs business and even less for girls, Turkish make clubs business at night, NL and Belgium make GT business, not locals make most of time big clubs business. Only small clubs get business from Germans.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2249961]
Everyone loves to blame the fly ins, it is amazing how so many girls talk about how generous the Germans are. I bet if it weren't for fly ins like Takedown and I that DFK BBBJ DATY Fucking at Palace would be only 50 e and Sharks could give out Viagras by Phizer not cheap Kamagra. I actually heard if you are discreet and show proof of a 7 day or less receipt for a manicure that the Sharks receptionist will not only give you Viagra but if you kill her with kindness and charm her she will take you in the back room where the laundry is done and let you finger and fist her!

But you have to be respectful and the FIV is only for fly ins!

:D[/QUOTE]Laughing my ass off. I can't wait to fly back in to FKK land.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2250060]Sharks was a small club with 30/40 girls in 2013, about 50 on 2014, 150 sometimes since November 2016, but lower casting for beauties. Top girls don't stay for cheap 50 at Sharks, they prefer clubs with better business. Castings are on clients level, even GT casting is disappointing on November. Germans don't make clubs business and even less for girls, Turkish make clubs business at night, NL and Belgium make GT business, not locals make most of time big clubs business. Only small clubs get business from Germans.[/QUOTE]2 or 3 years back most of the big clubs had a lot of German regulars several key drivers make them staying out of the clubs the main one is for me that the mongers are getting older same effect is happening in Thailand where the senior christian mongers are less and less replaced by Indian, . The younger generation are more using apps like tinder and are not ready to pay for sex, the girls are less hungry and the German are high demanding mongers AO, fisting. Kissing so they prefer to stay outside and are not willing to pay extra for what they consider being included in a 50 euro session. For a regular like me I can also confirm that there are always the same veteran girls around and very few sexy girls are entering the P6 scene in Germany, these poor offer is not stimulating the demand.

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2250033]I

Lastly, I hate to hear people say that 200 per day is a lot of money where these women are from. What is what where they are from doesn't mean jack once they arrive in Germany, because once here their cost of living is based on local prices. The only benefits they have is that in a non tracked or reported cash business they can minimize their taxes. What very few men calculate is that the average woman in the business has about 3000 to 3500 in operating expenses, entry, hotel, taxi to and from work, nails, etc. If they average 500 per day that's six or seven days before they make the first profit, and that's not counting the portion of their earnings the tax authority will take.[/QUOTE]Good point. I believe they have more than that per month. Remember they pay more than us to enter the club so only working 5 days a week would be average 2000 just to enter the club. Then the have their expensive make up, clothes, rent food taxes etc. I think 500/ day is their main target for most of them. They make good money but they also have a lot of expenses. Still a good business for prostitutes who believe that the meaning of life is to open wide your legs. LOL.

Chongmai. Some nice points. Yes, a girl at Sharks may be paying each month 500 euros to keep a flat in Romania, 800 for accommodation in Germany, childcare of 300-500, club entry of 1600 -2000, taxis of 300, support to mothers, fathers and so on. With costs like these 200 income a day does not cover costs. Income of 400 or 500 a day will give a profit sufficient to save (or splurge).

Of course this is just one possible cost scenario, and if a girl has no dependents or life in Romania to support then her situation is better financially.

As for fly-ins. Like you I have been kicking around a bit. We fly-ins used to be the stingiest of clients. Not only getting "everything" for 50, but also extended fun and chat on the couches. Things have changed maybe but the reasons are complex.

The clubs used to be staffed by girls from economies (such as Germany) with higher wage levels than Romania, yet the girls used to make enough money to be well off (earning about 60,000 net from full service for 50 euros per half hour) and able to invest in future careers. I think the current girls have, by operating cartel service restriction, damaged themselves overall.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2250283]Good point. I believe they have more than that per month. Remember they pay more than us to enter the club so only working 5 days a week would be average 2000 just to enter the club. Then the have their expensive make up, clothes, rent food taxes etc. I think 500/ day is their main target for most of them. They make good money but they also have a lot of expenses. Still a good business for prostitutes who believe that the meaning of life is to open wide your legs. LOL.[/QUOTE]Most of the girls are living in the clubs or sharing a flat, I think they need 150 to 200 euro per day including entry fees.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2250060]Sharks was a small club with 30/40 girls in 2013, about 50 on 2014, 150 sometimes since November 2016, but lower casting for beauties. Top girls don't stay for cheap 50 at Sharks, they prefer clubs with better business. Castings are on clients level, even GT casting is disappointing on November. Germans don't make clubs business and even less for girls, Turkish make clubs business at night, NL and Belgium make GT business, not locals make most of time big clubs business. Only small clubs get business from Germans.[/QUOTE]I was very happy with Sharks in that time. Very happy with palace in that time. Super happy with Oase and of course world. You must differentiate tourist as Europeans are different than Americans or Asian, which are the holy Grail for girls. Combine that with the new rules and girls can charge 150 for a 30 minutes room sometimes. Good 100 room are hard do find as a result. Even 150 doesn't guarantee anything in many clubs. When the consumer market adjusts and widens so do the services and prices offered. It is a natural progression. But the point being the clubs do not depend on the fly in mongers as the clubs existed before and will exist after.

The less he understands something, the more firmly he believes in it.

Wilhelm Reich, Listen, Little Man.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2249729]With less tourist business, there was less inflation and better service. All the clubs existed before tourist and would have existed otherwise as 200 euro a day for a girl is a lot for the countries they come from. But why work hard when they have what you like to call fly in mongers. Oh men, this will be my last response to you, not even basic game theory principles will appeal.[/QUOTE]There has always been tourist business, going way back. So you cannot blame the drive in and fly in customers from Belgium, Netherlands, France, Poland, Denmark, Austria, Italy and Switzerland. These guys have been coming in droves. Like the Irish have been coming to America as Bono said.

I have heard many a time from girls that the Germans are the better tippers and over payers. The examples of the Germans that give 150 euro for "one hour" sessions when the actual time is 45 minutes with or usually without a CIM extra involved. As YamaYama says the time not in the room can be considered a tip. Then there is the package deals with 500 euro for two hours where the German guy "can do anything" he wants. Then there is the 10 euro to 20 and even 50 euro tips that girls get from the German guys.

There is just a vocal small group of hard core German regulars that insist on a competitive race to the bottom who score points for getting the most couch time, room time and high level services for 50 bucks that skew the discussion forums. As with many the reality can be different.

200 euro a day is not that much. Girls will aim for 500 a day is likely. Stories abound of the earlier days when many girls would aim for 1000 a day, but nowadays maybe only the best girls can make 1000 a day.

Chongmal makes a very good point that when the foreign girls work in Germany that they are living in Germany so their expenses become German. It is only whatever savings that the girls make that it becomes good money.

Working on a hypothetical working girl who stays in Germany 75% of the year meaning 9 months working in Germany and 3 months at home over the course of the year seems normal since we all know girls who are always away on holiday or just taking a break.

This girl will need somewhere to stay. I know girls paying 500 euro for a room share a month and many girls paying 1000 a month for a room in a be&be, pension, or hotel. So let us work on 750 as a half way house here but knowing most girls prefer to live alone or with their fish boyfriend so its more at the higher end. Food, mobile phone, make up, hair, nails and incidentals like 25 a day on say a 30 day month is 750. It is probably more. So already accommodation and living costs that is fixed costs of 1500 euros a day.

Then for the work expenses side as the girls are independent contractors.

Let us work on 20 days worked in a 30 day period which seems about right from my observations. Some girls work everyday 7 days a week since their manager pushes them but then some girls are pushed less by their manager so 5 days a week is a basic number in our hypothetical and using empirical observation.

Entrance fees is 105 a day at Sharks which is the initial withholding tax, entrance fee and 5 for the condoms. I do know there is a small room charge if a girl stays in the club but we are working on a live out girl. I have also read that the Sharks girls pay 195 a day entry but I am not sure on that. So at 105 entry a day for a 20 day working month that is 2100.

Maybe taxi / car return travel to and from club at 30 a day so over 20 days working in a month that is 600 bucks more.

So now we add these together 1500 fixed cost of being in Germany with room and living expenses, plus the 2100 entrance fees and 600 taxi / car is 4200 a month. I know even for me my expenses are 1850 (outside my other homes) a month. So the girl has 2350 a month more costs in comparison to me. That is not an insignificant amount of money.

If a girl earns gross 400 a day (8 rooms a day on average) over a 20 day average month then that is 8000 a month, and over a 9 month year since as we know many girls do not work all year due to the mental strain of the job then that is 72000 a year. If the girl is only paying for the flat in Germany during her 9 months and many actually keep their flat in Germany when home but we will assume she does not, then the math is 8000 less 4200 costs is 3800 surplus. She over a year can make savings of 34200 a year. Much less if the girl keeps her flat for the whole year. The girls do their best to not pay local income taxes apart from the initial withholding taxes with is paid in the entrance fee, but they contribute to the German economy in other ways.

So taking that 34200 a year possible savings from working in German then compared to over a 240 day (12 month x 20 days a month) working year at home is like saving 142.50 a day compared to say saving nothing working in an average job making 1000 euro a month in Bucharest or Cluj or Constanta. I think even 1000 euro a month in Romania is a lot of money having stayed there myself.

So in way I can see 200 a day is a lot of money for a girl in Romania but the girl has to actually save their money to take back to Romania. What you see is the girls spending a lot of their money in Germany buying hang bags, expensive make up, fast cars, luxury holidays, all the things a 20 something year old girl who is an avid social media consumer would want as well. The girls are consumerist.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2250316]With costs like these 200 income a day does not cover costs. Income of 400 or 500 a day will give a profit sufficient to save (or splurge).[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I am digressing. The point is the same as Optimist that earning 200 a day is not really going to cover the girls costs which is around 210 a day (4200 divide by 20 working days). She needs to earn more. So one can be forgiven that the girls can be enterprising in trying to get as much from a session as they can.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2250613]There has always been tourist business, going way back. So you cannot blame the drive in and fly in customers from Belgium, Netherlands, France, Poland, Denmark, Austria, Italy and Switzerland. These guys have been coming in droves. Like the Irish have been coming to America as Bono said.

I have heard many a time from girls that the Germans are the better tippers and over payers. The examples of the Germans that give 150 euro for "one hour" sessions when the actual time is 45 minutes with or usually without a CIM extra involved. As YamaYama says the time not in the room can be considered a tip. Then there is the package deals with 500 euro for two hours where the German guy "can do anything" he wants. Then there is the 10 euro to 20 and even 50 euro tips that girls get from the German guys.

There is just a vocal small group of hard core German regulars that insist on a competitive race to the bottom who score points for getting the most couch time, room time and high level services for 50 bucks that skew the discussion forums. As with many the reality can be different.

200 euro a day is not that much. Girls will aim for 500 a day is likely. Stories abound of the earlier days when many girls would aim for 1000 a day, but nowadays maybe only the best girls can make 1000 a day.

Chongmal makes a very good point that when the foreign girls work in Germany that they are living in Germany so their expenses become German. It is only whatever savings that the girls make that it becomes good money.

Working on a hypothetical working girl who stays in Germany 75% of the year meaning 9 months working in Germany and 3 months at home over the course of the year seems normal since we all know girls who are always away on holiday or just taking a break.[/QUOTE]What about taxes, AOK, pimps, drugs, shopping addiction. To make it easy I can tell you that 80% of the Romanian girls have nothing after 5 years in FKK probably some German girls have a better control of their life.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2250613]The examples of the Germans that give 150 euro for "one hour" sessions when the actual time is 45 minutes with or usually without a CIM extra involved.

[/QUOTE]This can be true for the older germans, as many of them are stink-rich nowadays. The younger germans? I would really highly doubt that for most of them.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2250613]
So one can be forgiven that the girls can be enterprising in trying to get as much from a session as they can.[/QUOTE]All your calc sounds fine. However, the major reason of upselling has much simpler economics. A girl only needs to spend 1 min on upselling, has often a 50% chance of succeeding of making 20 - 50 euro more.

So in the 1 min of upselling she she earns an expected 10 e to 25 e.

So in the 8 sessions, trusting your numbers, she makes an additional 80 e- 200 e more money, just for 8 min more work. So that is a large sum of money, normalized to the hour.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2250569]I was very happy with Sharks in that time. Very happy with palace in that time. Super happy with Oase and of course world. You must differentiate tourist as Europeans are different than Americans or Asian, which are the holy Grail for girls. Combine that with the new rules and girls can charge 150 for a 30 minutes room sometimes. Good 100 room are hard do find as a result. Even 150 doesn't guarantee anything in many clubs. When the consumer market adjusts and widens so do the services and prices offered. It is a natural progression. But the point being the clubs do not depend on the fly in mongers as the clubs existed before and will exist after.[/QUOTE]My meaning was when Sharks was a small club with less than 50 girls, 5 years ago, German clients business was maybe enough, but now Germans even with Turkish, Albanians and Afghans attending Sharks at night, wouldn't be enough to give enough business to more than 100 girls. Besides, many Germans, not only at Sharks, don't go with girls, but just eat, drink and sauna. But I agree Western Europeans are more demanding because used to Caucasian type girls than Asians who go with any blond, or even Americans who have fat and silicon standards at home, and missing sex in US, when I can have a Russian escort every day in Paris, but I wait for my Siberian Sveta. When tourists make business, then girls fall in touristic level, when I still manage to find good girls who are happy with 100 for 1 full GFE hour and come to ask to repeat. On Friday, a girl was so passionate compare to previous Friday, asking even for a third room when she said I killed her pussy on our second room, but she wanted to repeat, I didn't. No upselling, each time, 100 for a bit more than 1 hour.

Happy for you if you found good girls in Hessen on this time. Ski time now, but have to find time to go to Florentina who was one of the last high level girl met at Sharks. Did you see the beautiful German brunette?

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2250613]The girls do their best to not pay local income taxes apart from the initial withholding taxes with is paid in the entrance fee, but they contribute to the German economy in other ways.[/QUOTE]The main goal of the new prostitution law in Germany is to enable the tax departments to get more money from the women working in prostitution. This is why line-up list in fora are more interesting for tax authorities than reports of actions in the room.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2250613]The girls are consumerist.[/QUOTE]No difference to the men visiting the clubs. They are consumerists too, they consume alcohol, viagra, female bodies and connected illusions.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2250782] This can be true for the older germans, as many of them are stink-rich nowadays. [/QUOTE]You are quite right, but Germany does beat the incomes of many of its neighbors when it comes to gross domestic product per person. Beating Belgium, Denmark, Italy, United Kingdom, France and Austria for example. Netherlands beats Germany on these tables.

Link:

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita[/URL]

So I would agree the older retired Germans with pension plans from their middle industry jobs would be well set up.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2250782]All your calc sounds fine. However, the major reason of upselling has much simpler economics. A girl only needs to spend 1 min on upselling, has often a 50% chance of succeeding of making 20 - 50 euro more.

So in the 1 min of upselling she she earns an expected 10 e to 25 e.

So in the 8 sessions, trusting your numbers, she makes an additional 80 e- 200 e more money, just for 8 min more work. So that is a large sum of money, normalized to the hour. [/QUOTE]Yeah, many girls say that they do this up-selling since you have to pump the guys for as much as possible from the beginning since when you start then you only get the basic money. In this way they can give the same service and get paid much more. This is why more and more there is discussion about money before the session starts. Commonsense.

Its quite poignant when a girl tells you this but then you are wondering when she is going to upsell you.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2250788] This is why line-up list in fora are more interesting for tax authorities than reports of actions in the room.[/QUOTE]I think you need to explain your reason for writing this.

Are the cops going to sitting on this website in paid for work time trolling for line up lists? Picking up a random name here or there, trying to work out was it Milena, Elena, Dilena or Mila who was discussed? Trying to decipher the arguments on the forum about was it 100 girls or 150 girls or was it 20 girls depending on the time of day or day of the week a monger was visiting the club?

I would think that it is a better use of taxpayer's money if the cops just went to the front desk of the club to ask for the line up list kept by the receptionist of which girls had paid entry to work in the club and the records of the prior days. That club's list would be far more complete and accurate.

For police it is going to be hard to put up evidence based on some guy pumped with viagra and cannot even remember a girls name writing on an internet forum than a hard list from the club itself of all the girls registered to work for the day. Commonsense.

[QUOTE=Nick The G;2250788] No difference to the men visiting the clubs. They are consumerists too, they consume alcohol, viagra, female bodies and connected illusions.[/QUOTE]
These days I get more excitement from a doner kebab. Commonsense.

This Monday I am in Sharks. Up from noon. Happy to know whoever there will be by chance.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2250788] ….. line-up list …. more interesting for tax authorities than reports …...[/QUOTE]In Germany we should be aware that authorities are also registered making regular reviews of what is written and of interest. There is one board in which the line-up of Sharks is regularly posted not in complete but in a very detailed way. The women are regsitered and have their respective "passport" and the club has ist lists for every day showing the name of girls being there. I think the management of a club accept these rules in order to assure making ist business run instead of doing exceptions with some girls.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2250808]I think you need to explain your reason for writing this.[/QUOTE]Let's put it that way: well yeah, the clubs have to maintain these lists. And the girls and boys in german brothels according to the new prostitution law have to use condoms. What every club will officially state, of course.

So, sometimes it is good to have a second source of information. Why not check the internet?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2250786]My meaning was when Sharks was a small club with less than 50 girls, 5 years ago, German clients business was maybe enough, but now Germans even with Turkish, Albanians and Afghans attending Sharks at night, wouldn't be enough to give enough business to more than 100 girls. Besides, many Germans, not only at Sharks, don't go with girls, but just eat, drink and sauna. But I agree Western Europeans are more demanding because used to Caucasian type girls than Asians who go with any blond, or even Americans who have fat and silicon standards at home, and missing sex in US, when I can have a Russian escort every day in Paris, but I wait for my Siberian Sveta. When tourists make business, then girls fall in touristic level, when I still manage to find good girls who are happy with 100 for 1 full GFE hour and come to ask to repeat. On Friday, a girl was so passionate compare to previous Friday, asking even for a third room when she said I killed her pussy on our second room, but she wanted to repeat, I didn't. No upselling, each time, 100 for a bit more than 1 hour.

Happy for you if you found good girls in Hessen on this time. Ski time now, but have to find time to go to Florentina who was one of the last high level girl met at Sharks. Did you see the beautiful German brunette?[/QUOTE]Sharks has fewer girl, but was never so small. Armos is small. 50 girls is enough. I have that at world now and that's absolutely enough. Sharks will nit close its doors if tourist will not come from Asia or the US. Its core clients are Europeans. Crossing the borders from France or taking a short flight from London is not really a big deal. I have friends who almost weekly from Torin and I don't consider them fly in. Sharks will not close its door with out fly in mongers. World is slow, but still have some perfect days there. Point remains the same: big clubs are not, were not and will not be depended on fly in mongers. Fact.

[QUOTE=Tedesco;2250948]In Germany we should be aware that authorities are also registered making regular reviews of what is written and of interest. There is one board in which the line-up of Sharks is regularly posted not in complete but in a very detailed way. The women are regsitered and have their respective "passport" and the club has ist lists for every day showing the name of girls being there. I think the management of a club accept these rules in order to assure making ist business run instead of doing exceptions with some girls.[/QUOTE]Only fantasm, the controls are only there to get tax payments.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2251056]Let's put it that way: well yeah, the clubs have to maintain these lists. And the girls and boys in german brothels according to the new prostitution law have to use condoms. What every club will officially state, of course.

So, sometimes it is good to have a second source of information. Why not check the internet?[/QUOTE]Take it easy the things are not like this, the authorities only care about to reduce the number of clubs and prostitutes to keep peace in the german families.

[QUOTE=DaWong949;2239804]For money you saved not flying in over the Atlantic Ocean, your bank account should be in balance. LOL.[/QUOTE]I won't save much as I saved the flight over the North Sea not the Atlantic, I'm from the Mother Country LOL!

Anyone at Sharks Thursday next week & fancy a chat in between sessions please let me know, possibly there for a few hours early next Friday too.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2239576]No, all the girls will be there eagerly waiting for you in need to earn money (to buy Christmas presents in December and to stay home in their countries for some weeks). With regards to full lineup, this is a splendid period of time, actually this is one of the best times in the year to visit the club!

This situation will last until 17th /18th of December.[/QUOTE]I took your advise and will be returning to Shark Land next Thursday & for a few hours the following day.

I will let you know if your prophecy was correct but just in case I will take the "odd extra gift" from Santa for the girls that have been good girls this year!

I have a few recommendations as I'm sure we all do LOL!

It is a joke that tax authorities are scanning these lists for tax compliance.

Last year, people made the dubious claim that what is written here will lead to convictions for violations of the new law. That was laughable then, and this claim about tax verification is equally absurd.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2246050]Arrived at 11 am.[/QUOTE]Thank you for all your great 'Late Fall FFK Tour' posts. They had all been enjoyable reading.

In order to experience what the Odyssey of YamaYama was like, I thought that I would try out a few of the YamaYama experiences yesterday.

I duly found one of the girls you sessioned with and who is an avid reader of ISG and thus knew exactly what you wrote about her, I got her to repeat exactly the same sequence as the one you did since being less than 2 weeks ago it was still fresh in her mind.

Totally enjoyed her small 'O' and big 'O', and she even gave me a bonus super-big 'O' which she said that she had planned to but she did not put on for you as you had wanted to switch to cowgirl instead of continuing with DATY. I have just had the opportunity to read your post covering that session, and my goodness, she was quite accurate!

I hope that you will not patent your sessions as I can then carry on trying more of these great set menus in the future. But as few of the girls would be avid readers of ISG and have such good memories, I guess I should print out your posts and bring them with me to refresh their memories!

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2251222]...In order to experience what the Odyssey of YamaYama was like, I thought that I would try out a few of the YamaYama experiences yesterday...[/QUOTE]Thanks for your verification and am pleased to hear that both you and she enjoyed the session, but am sorry to miss out on her super big O, LOL.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2251083]Sharks has fewer girl, but was never so small. Armos is small. 50 girls is enough. I have that at world now and that's absolutely enough. Sharks will nit close its doors if tourist will not come from Asia or the US. Its core clients are Europeans. Crossing the borders from France or taking a short flight from London is not really a big deal. I have friends who almost weekly from Torin and I don't consider them fly in. Sharks will not close its door with out fly in mongers. World is slow, but still have some perfect days there. Point remains the same: big clubs are not, were not and will not be depended on fly in mongers. Fact.[/QUOTE]Danny has a little bit of a point, Turkish-German mongers help keep clubs afloat. No way these clubs stay open with just the local ethnic German pensioners though.

I spent 4 days in Sharks in the recent past. The club is hopping and humming, more alive than ever, and filled to the brim with eminently fuckable girls. If you have an urge to pump a few young lasses and release all that pent up excess energy, this is as good a time as any and Sharks is absolutely the right place to achieve your carnal goals.

Sorry, if you are impatient you can just TLDR it and look at the LU list.

The following is a list of girls that I talked to and remembered. There are tons more that I did not know or forgot. And it is not just quantity -- the quality is just as impressive. Any prognostications made about Sharks' demise are premature and far from the truth, in my opinion.

Claudia.

Alma.

Gianna.

Adriana.

Samantha.

Kylie big tits Greek.

Ava.

Raissa.

Coco.

Selina brunette.

Violeta skinny small tits blonde 1 week at Sharks. Ex Ned escort.

Anastasia. Skinny blonde small tits. Now putting on some weight on hips. Still selling extras.

Mischa. Skinny straight brown haired girl. Awesome bod. Cute face.

Anita. Tallish blonde, Reese Witherspoon lookalike? On the right day perhaps.

Keisha. MILF.

Isabella. Czech. Milfish.

Franzine. Ex Artemis blonde. Bolt one.

Daniela. Skinny blonde small tits. 24. Pretty face. Ex Palace. Moldvia.

Norielle. Rom. Brown hair.

Tila. German, at the German table. Bolt on big tits. Local Frankfurt girl. 2 days at Sharks.

Kimberly German.

Tia. German.

Manuela. Bulgaria. Tiny brunette. Nice gal. Cute face.

Skinny Loretta brunette. Rom 26.5 months at Sharks now.

Xenia. Magda couches.

Blonde German Holly. Koln pierced nipples ex Samya palace.

Blonde slim tall small tit Leoni. Cute face.

Natlia Moldova. Looks a bit like Andrea / Bulgaria ex-Sharks of a few years ago.

Selina blonde sagging tits Rom.

Julia Blonde + Florenza brunette. Stairs couches.

Venus tiny brunette Rom 27. New Estephania?

Nikki.

Nicole.

Ada.

Mikayla.

Vanessa dark hair, Rom 20.

Enia blonde. Perky tits, tallish.

Sienna + Vivian Bulgarian? At the German table.

Marina Bosnia?

Cassandra Rom 20.

Fabiana, slightly sagging but nice tits. Petite, cute face Moldavia.

Miriam. Milfish. Cute face.

Dani. Blonde. By the bar.

Kati. Polish? Milfish, blonde, toweled. 28.

Aphelia or Ophelia. 20. Ukr.

Roxy.

Amber.

Milfish Lorena.

Jill. Tall blonde, fake big tits.

Skinny Arianna. Less pretty face than prior blonde Arianna.

Tall slim blonde Lavinia.

Ayesha bit tits, cute face, Magda couch.

Malena brunette.

Blonde Mila + brunette Yvette duo.

Mina brunette petite, small tits.

Eleanor.

Judith tat on left shoulder.

Viorica.

Zyenep.

NAya.

Serena blonde.

Emma.

Raluha.

Larissa.

Asea.

Esther.

Jennifer blonde.

Lara.

Denise.

Scarlet.

Mira.

Madeline.

Ada.

Patricia brunette.

Patricia blonde Bulgarian fake big tits.

Sidonia.

Francesca.

Linda.

Moira blonde extensions.

Esra 20 bar or Magda couchees.

Big sagging tits MILF Alina.

Ivona.

Yra.

Ivana brunette.

Melanie.

Ellen petite.

Alexa brunette skinny.

Alexandra blonde skinny.

Big tits Brenda.

Loredana ex Oase.

Jazz blonde ex London.

Keisha.

Priya friendswith Paloma.

Olympia brunette.

Jessica blonde now bit fake tits.

Beyonc Croatia blonde, skinny small tits.

I flew in on a Sunday. Ah, sausage fest day. Was not looking forward to that aspect. If memory serves, this is only the second Sunday ever that I was in Sharks. Normally I make it a point to fly in on Monday, or fly out on Sunday morning. But hey, beggars can't be choosers and these days I will take my FKK trips whenever I can get them.

Even by 2 PM, the club was relatively full. However, no waits. I stayed until nearly mid night, and don't think I experienced even a single wait. In fact, it was on the Monday evening that I saw the first room wait upstairs. Go figure. ].

It was indeed a wiener fest , but there were plenty of receptacles for all those sausages if the men were so inclined. The girls were as usual, bored lacking sufficient business.

My first session of the day and trip was *Zyenep*. I had a half hour session with her in my prior trip a few months ago. Think she was relatively new at that time in the club. She completely forgot me and my face. I however remembered her name and that she is half Turkish and half Rom, and she was happy to see that. I reminded that in the past she was shy (she kept her eyes closed much of the time and did not kiss) and she laughed it off and said everything is fine now provided it is an hour session. I had no problem with that and we went upstairs. And true enough, no traces of shyness. Was quite playful, and kissed me from head to toe in quick succession and then laid next to me for more deeper smooching and make out. The rest of the service was also top notch. Her butt cheeks are small, baby smooth and felt so delicious in my palms. I love that feeling, as I kiss the girl while kneading her ass cheeks with my hand and she was a perfect fit. Very pretty face. She did make a feeble pitch for anal but just a quick mention and dropped it as soon as I said no thanks. I did not finish but it was a thoroughly enjoyable session and a grand way to start the trip. I am happy to see she blossomed into a top notch girl and I did observe that she has now a full roster of clients and was quite busy most of the time. She was in on all the days I went to the club and I fully intended to repeat with her as we both came down, but never did repeat. With so many other girls, was not in a mood for repeats. Too much fresh meat to try

NAya. I spotted NAya as soon as I walked into the club. I grabbed a cappuccino after a long flight and walked over and said Hi. She is always happy to see me. We chatted a bit, and I said I might see her later. Sure enough, after Zyenep, I wanted to give her a try before I may get busy with others. I know she is trying to not compete with the young bucks on Friday etc when there are hundreds of girls and is not even coming in those nights. She does have self awareness, we should admit. Don't know how many other girls are doing this. Not dissimilar to how the middle of the class students in high school might not apply to the Ivies. Self selecting out. Anyway, I wanted to take her while she was in the club and took for a quick session. NAya knows she is not my spec and we just go to room so I can give her a 50. Very often I don't even fuck her. On this visit though, I did. Still, a relatively quick session and it is always so nice to see this sweetheart and delightful woman. Always wish her the best.

Scarlett: A bit later, I was eyeing this pretty girl. I know I had seen her before, and perhaps had even session'ed with her. Just could not recall. She gave me a few smiles but otherwise did not bother me. Finally I walked upto her and said "don't I know you, what's your name? She said oh you forgot me, I am Scarlett. Then I recalled that I had indeed session'ed with her a year ago or perhaps even before that. She said it has been nearly two years since we sessioned. Here is one to the guys that claim girls have strong memory (they struck out on Zyenep and Viorica however). Anyway, I recalled Scarlet also had not given good service and asked if the menu was barebones or had some meat in it and she said one hour gets you a good deal. I was eager to partake the nectar of her enticing lips and a deeper exploration of her inviting mouth and agreed to an hour session. It was pretty darn good. After not having finished with NAya and Zyenep, I finally shot my fluids albeit into a plastic bag and not 20 meters as is the wont with KK. A thoroughly enjoyable experience, and a pleasant surprise as I think I did not have a great experience with Scarlett previously, and if I recall correct, gave her a somewhat negative review. She has clearly improved for the better.

Esra: I was a bit jet lagged as the evening turned to night. Didn't have much sleep the night before and the time difference was catching up. I was happy that I had at least one goal in my column for the night but a second goal would make it sweeter. I was sitting in my favored spot and caught a glimpse of this girl by the bar. Very pretty face and seemed to be slim, so I walked over closer to her for a better look and she still looked good and bid was super tight and just my spec. OK, time for the buyer's interview. Name is Esra. Was 19 or 20, forgot the exact number, but very young nevertheless. No she does not kiss. Impossible, she said. Excuse me, did you say impossible? Yes sir, that's what she repeated. OK, she does not want perverted old men shoving their tongues into her delicate mouth fair enough, a girl is entitled to a whim, especially one as pretty as Esra. But even BBBJ comes only with 100 e60 M. This, I was not willing to countenance. Seriously considered walking away, but damn it she looked so yummy and cute. I thought about all the strippers on whom I wasted hundreds and what was a 50 for a chance to fuck this young thing, even if I had to do it with no kissing and a covered blow job. With that brilliant logic, I rationalized my decision, plucked her away from her gal pal and headed up. She was actually very nice and despite her restrictions I had a really good time groping her super adorable body. After a good amount of body rub and other amorous athletics, we got down to a fuck. I was digging her looks quite A OK and that alone made me shoot a load into her pussy well shielded with a condom of course. And no, I did not read YamaYama's review or else I would have tried to insert at least one or two if not 5. But then again, she might be giving such privileges to only super mongers like Y^2 and not to runof the Mill punters like me. Who knows.

Monday:

After a good night sleep and rest, I was ready and raring to fuck. If by late last night, I was walking around in a pallor of old reflected glories, today I am pledged with enthusiastic fervor to be the old horse that wins the cup. OK, in my new definition, being able to fuck for 20 minutes non stop or achieving a couple of cum shoots is winning the cup. Semantics semantics.

Alexa / Alexi. As I was sitting by my appointed seat at the foot of the waterfalls, these two girls approached me as I contemplated my first session of the day. I recognized skinny Alexandra the blonde but only vaguely recalled the other brunette. Name is Alexi. Funny thing is, back in June Alexandra approached me as part of a duo with Ivana the brunette, and I sent away Alexandra and took Ivana for a session which turned out to be less than good and I regretted that perhaps I should have taken Alexandra instead. And this time, I made the same mistake and took the brunette again. She says she will do most of the things a cheap monger might want in 50 E. But as we are about to step into the Fishtank room, her friend Ivana barges in. Whoa, who invited you babe? They begin selling a threesome. I should have walked out, but I was in the mood for a room and forcibly kicked out Ivana. Literally had to push her out and close the door in her face. Jesus. And now, her friend Alexi is all upset. "Why did you make her go? Why can't you enjoy threesome? Yadda yadda". I told her I am not in the mood for this discussion. Then she takes another route. "Would I do an hour? Why not? Why don't I do anal or CIM, they will be fun. ". I told her I am not in the mood for this discussion, does she still want a room, and with terms as agreed before? With great reluctance she says, OK let's do it. Once the session begins her service is relatively decent, and she rations out some kissing, BBBJ and other things. However, I am slow to get into the mood. I did have some fun towards the end. Still, I chose not to extend it to one hour. Not sure if I will recommend her. The service was good enough and I did dig her looks enough to do a one hour session but the shenanigans at the start of the session left a bad taste in the mouth.

Natlia. I saw this girl tallish pretty girl. Reminded a bit of Andrea, the Bulgarian girl of past (2 or 3 years ago). Sparkling eyes. Pretty smile. Very cute face. A very slight bulge around tummy but by no means is she obese or fat. I saw wrapped all over some lucky dude and thought to myself I want a piece of that for me. LOL. FKK is a place where if you envy someone else's girl, you have a shot at fucking her yourself in the not too distant future. Like many Sharks girls, her price menu is different for 50 E and 100 E and with her I was not in the mood for 100 E. I knew she was a bit too big for me and I would never finish inside her, given her size. But I needed to ravage that body a little, given the Andrea resemblance. So, we did a 30 M quickie. I would say it was an OK session. Indeed fucking a hot young girl is never a wasteful exercise and for that alone, she deserves a thank you from me.

Jennifer: I had first sessioned with Jennifer a couple of years ago. My very first session with her lasted 90 min. Since then I had been with her a few more times but none ever exceeded even an hour. Even in my trip in June, I made some artless excuse and trimmed my session with her to just 30 M. Why was that, I wonder sometimes. She is pretty, has a nice striking face. Is blonde -- but still hasn't found her niche in the Asian clintele group. Nick the G called out her "non existent assets which she constantly keeps under wraps" -- cruel but sadly true. She is prepared to go where many nubile females fear to tread in the clubs in ters of her services and yet is strangely diffident in her approaches to prospective clients. Anyway, wrapt in inward contemplation about my dwindling resources of testosterone, I summoned Jennifer hoping that perhaps she could rekindle some extinguished flames. I had heard she has slithered down the path of depravity in the recent years, and that might be the very thing I needed at this hour. In the room, she made it clear that nothing was off the table in an hourly session and I was very much in the mood to put a lot of unspeakable things on the table, so it was clear we we were on the same page. DFK was no doubt on the menu, but I was in the mood for darker pleasures. Soon, in a supine position my head was north of tropic of cancer while she positioned her own mouth near the equatorial rain forest (well, they were thoroughly deforested in prep for the FKK visit), and kept moving south. For more than half hour, I had not seen head come up again. A gentleman does not kiss and tell -- should he also not tell when kissed? I will keep this writeup PG-18 for now. I have, ahem, a vague recollection of bending and lifting my legs and doing other acrobatic feats with my torso to facilitate superior access to her roving tongue which was more exploratory than Odysseus when it came to the nether worlds. After this session, I most definitely deserve the title disgusting old perv. On my day of judgement, when the good lord pulls up the video tape of my session with her and asks what I have to say for myself, I would have no defenses except to say "yes, please burn me in hell forever". I would have to extend my most sincere apologies to those gents who partook deep french kissing pleasures later that evening with this Romanian Jezebel.

Beyonce: After the session with Jennifer, I was drained. My mind was firmly enthroned in the seventh circle of content, after the depth of vices in the prior session. My little man it was clear was no longer capable to getting excited at the prospect of simple pleasures and modest sins. I was set to fly very early in the morning to Barcelona and wondering if I should call it a night. The club was in a somnabulent mode, if such a thing is possible with 70+ naked beauties and dozens of men with raging hormones. My mind was in a clouded, restless and jaded mood. The spirit and the heart wanted more, the physical equipment was saying no mas. As I was debating, I laid my eyes on this blonde beauty who seemed to be full of life. Was yapping away with her friend, sitting at the bar. Skinny, small tits, bright smile. Just the kind of wench that gets my debauchery juices flowing. I approached her. She is all smiles. Reads her price list aloud. 50 E gets you the bare minimum. Kissing and BBBJ would need an extra 20, she says. "What about an hour for 100 E? "Yes, that will net you BLS and kissing, and sex in multiple positions" (This last one gets me. I mean, wtf? Since when is sex in multiple positions an extra? Before the room, are we now to declare the one fucking position that is included in the default 50 E -- as if it is a pizza topping? "Yes, I will choose Pepperoni, er doggie, for my allowed topping / positionn please" After this most vivid romantic tete a tete conducted in the middle of a dozen people within touching distance, we head upstairs. She is a bundle of energy. Lays me on my back and starts a slow gyrating dance right above my head, my eyes having a direct line of sight to her moist entrance. Switches on a Serbian singer Rasta on her phone and belts out her own singing in tune with the audio. I guess I now understand her club nom de hooker, given her singing skills. Then she begins a slow body rub, starting from the bottom and heading north on my torso. Little JnpR30 likes it, and shows some signs of life. Good. Unfortunately, her mouth smells like an ash tray. Bummer. I was in a mood for kiss now -- in the prior session with Jennifer, there was kissing and fluid exchange between her mouth and my orifices, not necessarily my mouth. Worse yet, she declares BBBJ was 20 E extra. WHAT?? Didn't we say 100 E gets kissing, BLS, BBBJ included? "No", she says, "I expressly excluded BBBJ from that list". Did she? Had she? Could she? Can we rewind the interview audio, and anyway who the fuck understood her Croatian accent in the middle of all that chaos downstairs? I wondered if I could exchange kissing for BBBJ, since the former was no longer of any appeal. Or at least give up kissing for a 10 E discount towards BBBJ? "How about BLS"? "Yes, that is included". "OK, what are you doing here, taking your spot downstairs then". Really, the fickleness and caprices of WGs are hard to exaggerate. She does provide first rate slow sucking, licking, kissing, and suckling of my two sacks. OK, that was better. Then ensued some sex, and I did switch positions intentionally, because heck I paid for thim. My energy and cum ability had long waned. Forget KK's 20 meter shoots, mine are not traveling even 20 angstroms. I asked honey, it is not going to happen, could you jack me off? And did you tell me that is also an extra in your adorable Croatian accent. No, it is free. And I did eject a few microliters of sperm, facilitated by her "free handjob skills", although my hand had to gently guide her hand. Moral of the story: don't get old. And.

Tuesday, Wedneesday.

Had an early morning flight to Barcelona. Had to wake up really early. Whole day was in meetings, which was tough after 2 days of naked eye candy. Alas. Barcelona is a delightful city. Oh, why could nt they relocate Sharks to a place like Barcelona away from dreary Darmstadt? One can only dream. On Thursday night, I have some renewed vigor to try some local fare. I had mongered a long time ago in Barcelona, but it has been years. Still, I ventured out and visited this place called Felina. Now, I know Monger88, Steve9696 and Pay For It and other Stalwarts like Ibn Batuta are all expert Spain maestros and I am embarrassed to write anything about mongering there, and display my lack of knowledge. But Felinna is easy to visit, and no cover charge. There were 20 or 25 girls and mostly Latino; does the experience even come close to that in Sharks. Hardly. But the damage was minimal and it was a different experience. I would have loved to visit Baghdad and watch some live copulation by stunt cocks and hired vaginas but that show starts way late in the night.

Thursday.

After meetings upto late morning, I took a flight back and in FRA by Thursday afternoon. The Felina experience showed me what I am missing. Needed to be back in the club. This time, I rented a car. I had preplanned to vacate by Friday morning, as my flight back to US was on Saturday AM and I was going to say in the club all night anyway.

The day is cold and a bit rainy. It was rainy in Barcelona as well that morning. Whereas Sunday and Monday were generally glorious, Thursday was going to be indoors confinement at Sharks. Oh well. One could do worse than being locked up in a room with 150 naked beauties.

Venus As I made my way into the club on Thursday afternoon, I was hoping my sperm count and energy levels would hold up. I was also hoping perhaps Mandy would be in, but alas no such luck. In any case, after consuming a cappuccino and a cup of black coffee in quick succession, I did my usual prowl. And where would I find my first mark? Why, the Magda couches ofc. This cute as a button brunette with a ready smile and inviting glare. Name is Venus. And I am her bananarama. She is a bit older than normal, remember she was 26 I think. So tiny. Is she my new Estephania? She is certainly more friendly and vastly more mature, that's for sure. This is the kind of girl I want to ravish in every which way and plant myself all over that turf. We joust and banter. Would she do all and more in 50 E? She wants a hundred 60 M commitment. I resist and say that if she is good, she will get 60 M. Finally she yields and we head up. She does give some kissing, and her BJ is world class. For such a tiny girl, she takes my entire length in her mouth, generates a ton of swirling spit and I am now swimming in her saliva. Shit, it is a well known biological fact, established after a lot of clinical trials, that a man's health and longevity is improved vastly if his dick spends at least half hour every day swimming in a girls swirling saliva and that's what I had going with this dame. I didn't achieve a cum shot with this girl, but that's only because I didn't try hard enough. I made a note to myself that if I had difficulty achieving a shot by the day's end, I should book her for an encore as she is the type that gets my flow going.

Jazz. As I was sauntering around on late Monday afternoon, I ran into Jazz. A friend from ISG had recommended her in a private msg. Slightly sagging tits, and a slightly taller girl than I prefer. Body is lithe and supple but not as skinny and small as I prefer. But face is very pleasant, nice blonde. Worked in UK, lived in the Kensington area, studied there and escorted although not with much success she added. How much did she make in London? 500 pounds an hour. She did not get to keep all of that ofc, a large percent went to the agency. Still, here you could fuck her for 100 E. Less than a fifth of the London price. Fuck, this is what the economists call labor arbitrage. As a good capitalist, I needed to take advantage of this, and pronto we headed up. She is a fine girl, allows a lot even in 50 E, and was a delightful all around experience. Absolutely recommended, even if I did not score a goal. As someone famous said (I think it was a famous guy; and if he was not famous, he ought to be) the journey is the point of pleasure, not the destination.

Vanessa. I have to say, I have never had good luck or experience with fish tank girls. I wondered, is there a regional personality? For some reason, I have found several gems at the Magda couch. The bar chair girls are OK for me. Pole dance girls are snooty as we all know. Rosanna couch girls used to be good, now not so much. But fish tank? Not much. Surprisingly, I had sampled Vanessa, Ivana, Alexa and a couple of more from the fish tank group, despite my mediocre experiences with them. Anyway, back to Vanessa. I know I had seen her before, and when I checked my June trip report, her name was in the LU. Still, perhaps I did not consider her seriously back then. Don't know why. A closer look and she is soooo darn attractive facially. Very pretty smile. Slightly bigger than I prefer but still has to be called slim. Her face, oh my. Probably the prettiest face in Sharks for me, along with Xenia at the moment. She negotiates for a all you can eat for 100 E. All you can eat as in normal, not extras stuff. But the session in the room quickly goes down the hill. She reminded me again why fish tank girls SUCK. Constant whining. Too much this, too much that. And begins to time cheat. It is only 15 min but claims "nearly half the time is up and when do we fuck. ". I said sorry babe, your math is wrong, here take a look at my watch and only 15 min so far. Now she is genuinely pissed. Claims I am watching the clock, that is not good, blah blah. If her intention was to destroy my mood and sour the session, she succeeds mightily. I was even more pissed, and didn't want to yield to her shady tactics and prolonged the session to at least 50th minute even though I had no mood after some time. Still, kissing her, running and playing her tits, and ofc the fucking was somewhat satisfactory in a purely physical sense. Will not repeat however, no way Jose.

Aphelia. Or is that Ophelia. I was sitting upstairs on the couch, looking down into the main hall and kitchen. I like this spot. My second fav place to station myself, after the waterfall area. I can look at all the girls and men and the various pairs nteracting in an effort to copulate imminently. Best place to people watch, especially given that the female half of the equation is buck naked. Anyway, first this Polish girl Kati tried to sell me her wares. I shoo her away with I am not ready excuse. In less than a minute, this young chick comes over. One look and I am about to send her packing as well. Her face is pretty enough and smiling and cute but body is far from my ideal. And when I say far, better believe it. She has a few pounds too many on herself and she is only 21. Or 20, forgot. But I wanted to hear her story, and she perches herself next to me. Says she is from Ukraine. Hello. That piques my interest. Really, you are from UKR? How did you manage to get a work visa? She says her parents lived in Bulgaria a while ago, and have a Bulgarian dual citizenship and so does she. Plausible? Yes, I guess. Anyway, I am not one of those people that need to quiz the girl with all kinds of weird questions to ascertain her story and nationality. Then she says she is brand new. As in, literally 20 min in the club. I would be her first customer to the monger world. I have always wanted to break a cherry and I guess this is my opportunity, LOL? I asked her if she will be nice to me, and she says OK. So, we go the corner cave, next to the men's sleeping recliners. I like this last room. The bed is much large larger than in a typical room and you can roll around with the girl as much as you want. True to her word, her service is top notch. Fuck, is it really your first room ever baby? Absolutely no hesitation, no uncertainty. I asked if she worked in Bulgaria but she said only in restaurants and such, never as a hooker. Whether that is fib or the truth, her kissing was deep and passionate, she lets fingers freely roam her inner parts and her blow job and BLS were top class. My digits were like Ponce de Leon inside her pussy, desperately searching for the fountain of youth. I would not have thought that a girl like that would get me off but after all the horse play, when the old in and out began I was primed and ready and had no difficulty in achieving a climax.

I saw her the next day as well, but she had already picked up a couple of friends. Think she said she will not stay too long as she may be exploring which club fits her the best. If you are service oriented and looks are not your number one, you could do worse than giving this young Ukrainian girl a chance. Worth every penny.

Friday:

Last day. Always bitter sweet. I still have my last day but I am already feeling that I will have to leave and go back. In the past, this pale gloom and palpable desolation from the impending departure were even worse but the thoughts of my sugar babes is keeping my spirits up this time around. Checked out, load my bags in the trunk, and enjoy a nice meal at the Vapianos. Not the pasta of Florence but a reasonably OK imitation. One of my fav places to eat in Darmstadt.

Mischa: Spotted this gorgeous girl on Thursday afternoon. Her face is pretty enough, but OMG that body. Something to die for. She is roughly 165 cm, small perky tits, brownish hair, cute face, and the tightest body one can imagine. Perhaps not everyone cares for that type, but I get goosebumps just thinking about her body. Unfortunately, never managed to snag her on Thursday. So, as I got in on Friday afternoon and got settled in I spotted her standing next to the kitchen entrance. Went over and said Hello,. She said do you want to talk more leisurely and we walk over all the way to the dark couches beyond the fish tank. Name is Mischa. Says she has been at the club for nearly two years. Oh wow. How did I miss her this long? She sounds strict. Does not kiss in 50 E, and 100 nets you only LFK I guess. Yes, BBBJ is on the menu but for 100. And so on. Her manner is not hostile but not super friendly either. Just as I knew I had to try Esra just for her looks, I knew I would need to sample this beauty as well. On my death bed, I will be counting how many pretty pussies my dick has sampled and Mischa shall surely make that list assuming my brain is not friend with Alzheimer's by then anyway, ba is these morbid thoughts for now. We go to a room. She is nice but again, manner is slightly brusque. But not damn it, just rubbing, kneading, caressing her super tout body with my own and my hands and mouth is worth the measly 50 E and more. I turned her around on her tummy and rubbed my face on those butt cheeks, how deliciously scrumptious those looked?! We did do some perfunctory intercourse, but it was to sample that body I took this session. I knew there was no chance of finishing, not in a 50 E session.

Later on, I wondered however. If she had been more friendly, she might have gotten the 400, as Xenia did. Perhaps if I had promised 400, even Mischa may have been a friendly and accommodating as Xenia was to me. But Xenia gave me all that and more with no promise of large sums and long sessions. Whereas Mischa was curt and businesslike and that cost her what could have been a longish session. That body surely counts among my top 10 best of all time I sampled personally in the FKKs.

Viorica.

I was wondering if I was going to see Viorica on this trip and need not have worried. I ran into her right away on late Sunday afternoon. I called her out as she was walking by me, but she was busy with someone and barely said Hi. I waited for my time and caught hold of her by her beloved machines later that evening.

A digression. I had sessioned with Viorica just a few months ago, more than once, and not short sessions either. She was very nice to me on that trip and was one of the better girls for me on that trip. But when I began talking to her, she gave me a weird look and had almost no recollection of my time with her from June. And this was true for Zyenep, and a few other girls. This relates to the discussion that these girls remember thousands of customers, but here these girls forgot my face in less than 5 months.

Anyway, I told Viorica to wait up for me as I wanted to take a shower. Sure enough, I come out and she is gone. And this kept repeating. Somehow or other, we kept missing each other. She was also not in on Monday and Thursday. Finally, I got hold of her on Friday evening and headed upstairs.

I am aware that she seems to have become moody occasionally as UncleOx described but my one session turned out to be fine. She is still very playful. Service is just fine. She is very open to ideas. Not much is off the table. She shyly confessed to me that she added anal to her repertoire recently, but that is not my cup of tea. Kissing, BBBJ, even BLS are all absolutely available and generously. She would try to tickle me, try to bite naughtily or do other kinky stufff and bursts out laughing. She genuinely has fun in the room. She did have a bit of smoky breath which subtracts from the kissing if that's something that bothers you. We spent roughly 90 M in the room. However, while the session was fun and full of sparkle, my man decided he had enough and went to a deep sleep mode. At the one hour mark, after a lot of oral stimulation and other fun activities we got down to some fucking but I did not last more than 10 min before I was down to half mast. She gamely tried various other tricks to revive him but to no avail. I did reward with a 20 tip for her efforts but this less than stellar performance by little Jnpr left me deflated and downbeat. That said, she is still golden and is quite highly recommended.

XENIA.

The session with Viorica left me deflated. It was like, I had used up my biggest weapon and the enemy was still still standing. Viorica was after all, my man Friday of prior trip. When all else failed, she was my closer, my own Mariano Rivera. If Little JNPR sleeps despite the ministrations of Viorica, what hope can other girls engender? Didn't the punditry class of ISG, McA+KK+Optimist discuss mental well being and being wholesome? Here I was in my own psychosomatic hell. The bevy of naked bitches, which by now numbered more than 150 in my imprecise counting, were hounding and tempting men with promises of sexual heaven. The club was at its busiest. And yet, I was walking around like a zombie. I explained to one or two girls that I was not in a good batting condition, but they disbelieved me and said "you are lyng, you don't have any money" and walked away. Is that a worse insult, to be broke than to be soft? I was feeling flummoxed, perplexed, flabbergasted. (OK, those are all the high falutin words I know and this seemed like a good place to insert them). In frustration, I went upstairs to sleep but my mind was constantly screaming at the idiot downstairs that I have only a few more hours in the land of sex and what the fuck is wrong with you? I gave up my feeble attempt at rest and sleep, and headed down again. It was around midnight now, and that's when I saw Xenia on the Magda couches.

Quick aside. Does anyone have any objection if we nominate that fine mongering specimen, UncleOx, to be the casting agent for ISG? I am sure this gentleman is good at whatever his day job is. But you sir, if you are not transitioned to a casting man's role, are in the wrong profession. Take my word for it.

In a PM, before I left to DE, UncleOx recommended that I should take Xenia and even indicated her station. I had been hovering her normal location for 3 1/2 days but she was never there as she was on vacation. I guess she did come in on Friday afternoon, but she was constantly booked. Some god somewhere took pity on me, and as I made one last round I saw this bewitching girl. I found her name, and when she told me I grabbed her hand and headed upstairs before some evil ruffian grabbed her away from me. Another stroke of luck and we found the VIP room free and available.

Now a few words about this girl. She is just a few months past 18 and yet has been with the club a few months already. She used to have brown hair I think but now has a blondish streak, somewhat wild in fact. Facially, she is really pretty in my view. Her bod is not my ideal. If I could put her head on Mischa's body, I would do it. Not to say she does n't have a super body. She has the right amount of subcutaneous baby fat, which is far better for a roving monger's hands and his pressing fingers than a model tight bod like Mischa's in many ways. But her heart is made of gold. Just pure, unadulterated joy. The one adjective that constantly comes to mind when thinking of her is super adorable. And yet, she is not naive nor gullible. She is somewhat experienced in Rom even prior to Sharks and knows the lay of the land, so to speak. She is able to size up the customer quickly and provide what her man needs. I quickly explained that I was on my fourth day of clubbing and junior was sore and tired and sleepy and needs careful handling and lots of tender love. And she understood totally and instinctively. We spent first half hour just with slow and then deep and passionate kissing. Some small talk, but mostly spent on lots of kissing, body rubbing, and tight cuddling. My hands were exploring all that wonderful body had to offer, every nook and crevice. She asked if I wanted to go to one hour, and I said Lets not worry about time. She did want to terminate at one hour and then at two hours as she was exhausted and was somewhat tired from travel. But I insisted and she gave up her protestations and stayed as long as I needed. Altogether, we stayed for four hours to the wee hours of the morning. Umpteen times she gave a slow, tender blow job just the kind of nursing that was truly needed by junior at that time, given how tender, red and somewhat painful it was for me otherwise. She would make me hard, then I would ask her to switch to my balls and she happily did. Then, she would resurface and we would make out. I was in no mood to fuck, nor was I fully fed yet. She must have made me hard with her oral skills at least six times, and never once complained. (OK, the cynics here will say "why wouldn't she, she is getting paid for four hours". If so, you didn't see all those money grubbing hookers of Sharks who refuse to give blow job a second or third time, regardless of how much money you pay.). Her perfume was delicate and yet enticing. And her kisses are soft, deep and just the sweetest. And for such a young girl, she has magnificent oral skills. We finally started fucking and amazingly, my dick was not that sore anymore and her pussy fit me like a glove, and I don't mean OJ's glove. I was so glad I could finish inside her as she rode me to my heart's joy. She so much reminded me of my short and one trip stint with Regina a while ago. However, Regina was all about sex as her language skills are very limited, whereas Xenia is very welll spoken and is a total angel in any which way possible.

Coming down the stairs at 4 AM, the club was almost empty. I had an early morning flight, and had checked out of my hotel the previous day and bags loaded in my car. Quickly took a shave and a shower and got back to the bar for rounds of capppuccno and coffee. There was a fellow countryman in a similar state, who had been doing ten straight days of clubbing! He too had a flight in less than couple of hours. We compared notes, as we were injecting our bodies with copious amounts of caffeine. A girl, don't remember her name, came to bug him for a last session and it was nearly 4:30 AM now he seriously considered it and passed only because he claimed he was out of money. Dude, this guy is my hero. I wish I had such levels of appropriate harmones flowing through my body. Jennifer was ruefully sitting across the bar from me. I had promised her around 10 PM that I might take her as my last session for a second round of depraved debauchery. She saw me going up the stairs with Xenia, and she saw me coming down nearly four hours later, and she probably wondered what more she needs to do to similarly obtain a 4 hour session. She had too much class to make a ruckus and nasty remark to me; I know a few others who would have, under similar circumstances. Sorry Jennifer, it was not you it was Moi.

And now back in the US, I feel a dull ache as I am reminded of Xenia and all the other young beauties I had sex with. But especially Xenia. So many kudos to UncleOx for his great discovery.

A few other observations.

Young Turk was still not there. I hope he is alright, still young, and still solvent. Neither was the local dude who some people here unkindly termed hermaphrodite in. Wish both of them the best.

The old German dancing dude who likes to dance with girls was in. I however did not see him dancing. Old German dancing dude. I do enjoy your dancing steps even if they are slow. Hope you bust out a move on my next visit.

There were way too many girls. I printed nearly a hundred girls' names above and I forgot a few names. Yet, wherever I looked, there were 3 girls whose names I did not know for every girl I knew. Granted, the above list of mine is a compilation of all the girls I saw and talked to over 4 days and not on a single day. That said, I have no doubt that in peak hours, the totals approached 150 or more.

Mina. A very pretty girl. I think she is Xenia’s roomie now? Do they put the best looking girls together? I had one small chance to bag her and then she disappeared on Sunday. Xenia said she was in on Friday too but I never even saw her. Was constantly booked. Tells you something.

Is there any one single superstar of Sharks anymore? As perhaps Roxanna, Evita, and maybe one or two others. And before peopl jump on me, superstar here is not necessarily the best because that is subjective but the busiest, most in demand girl. With this many girls, don’t think it is likely to have one such megastar any longer.

The fee is now hiked to 105 E per girl, I was told. Used to be 100 but they had to buy condoms previously for 5 E. Now, condoms are free but fee is hiked to 105. A few girls I talked to were not happy about this change, even if the effective hike is only a buck or two.

A few members had posited here that if entry fee was canceled for the girls, that would bring in more girls and improve services to all. Well, fee was very slightly hiked in fact. And the club is filled to the brim with girls. I had pointed out a few months ago that beyond a certain number, the club doesn't have the physical capacity to take in more girls and that is exactly where they are today. And yet, even with this massive number of girls, service is not any better.

I do have to say, the optic quality is pretty darn good. Yes, there are a number of buffaloes as Syz called them. But also, a big enough number of slim, lithe, pretty young girls exist. If you can't find good enough girls to fuck among them, perhaps you need to look at yourself in the mirror, and then see a shrink to figure out what's wrong with you.

To me, it is amazing that the number of girls is at the highest a full year after the new laws kicked in. There were a number of prognostications made in the immediate aftermath of June 2017. No need to rehash, a simple prerusal of old comments will do. But almost all the forecasts tuned out to be wrong. The only thing that is somewhat accurate is that total effective pricing, averaged across all the girls and all sessions is probably slightly higher, but then again, pricing has been going up gradually for a while at Sharks. Well before the new law was implemented. There are still girls who give all and more for the text book price what I paid to Jennifer for what she did, I can guarantee that no one provided the same service for me for the same price in 2013. And I have no doubt that if I relaxed my optical thresholds a bit, I can get even better services from lower optics / body girls.

Finally, I am more convinced than before that given my distressingly lower levels of libidinous ability, sugar babe situation works much better for me. The only reason I tried 15 girls in 4 days was because I was in DE and have no idea when my next trip will be. I will not be shocked if any given trip is my last trip. As such, I am gorging myself, as someone who is starved and doesn't know when and where his next meal will come. Accordingly, the pleasure from these sessions diminishes rapidly. About the only thing I enjoy is seeing the full parade of TAP (tits, asses, and pussies). That will never get old or stale for me. That said, I would be ecstatic with most of my 15 girls as sugar babes back home in the US, they were all that good (most, but not all).

Jnpr,

Thank you for a really excellent report. It provides me valuable information on some girls I had been considering but had not yet tried due to uncertainty on what they would be prepared to do.

As for 'hermaphrodite', he was present at Sharks yesterday. Last month, he was camping out in FKK World for a change. He probably left World and returned to Sharks when he could not find a couch to lie on horizontally. Furthermore, there is no grand staircase there for him to survey and whistle at the girls coming down.
Poor chap could not get a place at his usual couch at Sharks yesterday either as without Janine and her bodyguards to secure the area, it was continually occupied by other groups of customers.

Back to the subject of girls, there was a remarkably large line up yesterday for a Monday. I wonder how they can make enough money overall when there were not that many men.

You are saying you are a tourist probably not in the best situation to say if the LU are down with the implementation of the new law, yes for me they are down just because less and less new and fresh girls enter the job, a lot of veteran around. I don t fuck girls who are for years in the business.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2251322]Jnpr,

Thank you for a really excellent report.[/QUOTE]I second that.

Great review of your experiences and well written.

KK.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2251185]It is a joke that tax authorities are scanning these lists for tax compliance. Last year, people made the dubious claim that what is written here will lead to convictions for violations of the new law. That was laughable then, and this claim about tax verification is equally absurd.[/QUOTE]IMHO you expect too much in too short a time. It is a projection of the need for instant sex via pay sex onto the instant effects of a new law. Some patience please, the politicians and the authorities are working slowly, it will take until the laws are enforced. But they will be enforced. In Germany!

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2251402]IMHO you expect too much in too short a time.... the politicians and the authorities are working slowly, it will take until the laws are enforced. But they will be enforced. In Germany![/QUOTE]Yes enforcement of the July 2017law is happening slowly and so far only in certain aspects. I would not be foolish enough to predict the eventual outcome but do know (so far as I can know anything) that authorities are not ignorant of the possibility of sex forums providing information useful to them.

My reasons for saying this.

One club was subject to repeated raids, and a member of staff who I knew well said the authorities had asked questions based on information in sex forums. It was only a very very minor element, but it was still mentioned.

Another club was raided and girls hauled into the tax offices to settle unpaid taxes. A girl told me that the authorities had used line up lists as part of their negotiations with her.

Of course this proves nothing for the future, but, if what I was told is true, does indicate possibilities

JNPR30. Brilliant report.I love the conversation details as they give a real picture of how it works in Sharks. Invaluable.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2251290]Patricia blonde Bulgarian fake big tits[/QUOTE]Well known Patricia, working for years already in Sharks, one of the best booked women around, almost everybody knows she is from Republic of Moldova. Never call a woman from Romania / Moldova a bulgarian!

BTW, lately there seems to be an influx of moldovian women in the club.

Is that a misinterpretation? As judging from your latest trip report, to me it appears that one of the benefits of getting older is that sometimes writing about sex is much more enyoyable and takes longer than the act itself.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2251421]Well known Patricia, working for years already in Sharks, one of the best booked women around, almost everybody knows she is from Republic of Moldova. Never call a woman from Romania / Moldova a bulgarian!

BTW, lately there seems to be an influx of moldovian women in the club.

Is that a misinterpretation? As judging from your latest trip report, to me it appears that one of the benefits of getting older is that sometimes writing about sex is much more enyoyable and takes longer than the act itself.[/QUOTE]Ha, you are not far off, Nick, LOL. Don't the old locals go to the club to chat on Sundays and not for sex? Writing reports is no different. It took me nearly two hours to type up that stuff. That said, if I can trade two hours of sex with Xenia to erase every trace of my report, I will take it (sex with Xenia,that is) LOL.

Oops, I haven't talked to Patricia in more than 2 years. Somehow, I remembered her as being from Bulgaria and have been noting as such in all my reports for a while. You are the first one who called me out on this.

But this also goes to the problems in using anon forum notes by LE. These reports of ours are fraught with inaccuracies, typos, falsehoods, intentional and even malicious lies, and whatever else. This is what they will base some of their actions on?

As for Rom vs Moldavian, yes I agree with you. So many girls claim they are from Moldovia. When asked if they were Rom, quite a few snapped back "NO, Moldovian! As if the former is an insult and the latter is an honor.

PS. Thx TT123, KK, and Optimist. Highly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2251290]I spent 4 days in Sharks in the recent past. The club is hopping and humming, more alive than ever, and filled to the brim with eminently fuckable girls. If you have an urge to pump a few young lasses and release all that pent up excess energy, this is as good a time as any and Sharks is absolutely the right place to achieve your carnal goals.
. . . . . .
XENIA.

Now a few words about this girl. She is just a few months past 18 and yet has been with the club a few months already.[/QUOTE]Jnpr30,

Brilliant report! Very entertaining. Very informative.

Xenia is my "dream girl" in my reports. Not only is she one of prettiest girls (to me at this moment) at Sharks, but also she has adorable nature and affectionate personality. So I suggested you to pay attention to her. Fortunately you finally caught her at your fourth day of trip. I am glad to know that you had fabulous time with Xenia. You might be the first one who gave her a 4-hour-session. Haha.

Again, great job!

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2251493]Jnpr30,

Brilliant report! Very entertaining. Very informative.

Xenia is my "dream girl" in my reports. Not only is she one of prettiest girls (to me at this moment) at Sharks, but also she has adorable nature and affectionate personality. So I suggested you to pay attention to her. Fortunately you finally caught her at your fourth day of trip. I am glad to know that you had fabulous time with Xenia. You might be the first one who gave her a 4-hour-session. Haha.

Again, great job![/QUOTE]They are all prostitutes playing with us to suck as much cash as possible by giving the less possible we should all never forget this key point.

What an amazing post man!

But really how the hell do you remember so many names? Do you right them down after they tell you? LOL.

Hi gentlemen,

Has anyone seen Jill recently?

She is a German and she is very pretty with short hair.

She is always sitting in a bar next to the restaurant with friend.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2251185]Last year, people made the dubious claim that what is written here will lead to convictions for violations of the new law.[/QUOTE]This probably is not directed at me. But for the record, I agree with the statement that Neurosynth often repeats ad nauseam "CBJ law is unenforcible". My prediction then, and now, is that not a single monger will ever be convicted. My point then, and now, is that "convictions" are not the only negative consequences. Legal authorities and human rights activists read the forums because they want insight into our "depraved" minds. Legal authorities and human rights activists could prove to be the voices that change public opinion and force the adoption of the Nordic Model in Germany.

Quite simply: the best damned report I've seen in many, many moons; top-notch writing, totally informative and, at times, introspective and self-effacing. Exactly what one wants to find posted here! "Thanks" just doesn't do it.

Just a small note: Like you, I also recently discovered and sessions with "Zeyneb", a quite cute (quasi-moody) girl. I was very pleased with both optics and service levels. However, in the latter stages of your report you made some comments about the risky quality of the so-called "Fishtank" crew, comments that I and probably many others agree with. Yet, at least last week or two, Zeyneb's "spot" was exactly by the fishtank, so there are always exceptions, like Mila also, whose spot is the pole. Dance stage but she is very sweet and (for me at least) fantastic in room, not "high-nosed" snooty Princess- type like so many others of that group.

Once again: Brilliant contribution!

[QUOTE=Optimist;2251414]Yes enforcement of the July 2017law is happening slowly and so far only in certain aspects. I would not be foolish enough to predict the eventual outcome but do know (so far as I can know anything) that authorities are not ignorant of the possibility of sex forums providing information useful to them.[/QUOTE]Authorities and human rights activists want to paint mongers as villains (see link below). They do read the sex forums for insight into the monger's mind. They want the world to know about the "violation of human rights" that occurs in the brothels of Germany. They want the world to know that mongers are these depraved vampires that prey on young girls. Mongers demand these "unsafe" services, and contribute to an environment where young girls are forced (economic pressure) to perform these unsafe acts for each and every customer.

[URL]https://www.scribd.com/document/184666612/Prostitution-in-Deutschland-Von-Helmut-Sporer-Kripo-Augsburg[/URL]

The link above is a paper presented by Helmut Sporer (Kriminalpolizeiinspektion Augsburg). On page 4, he discusses mongers ("Freier" Paragraph 5 specifically mentions internet sites where mongers discuss topics intensively. He is also talking about new trends he is noticing (I. E. How mongers are becoming more depraved and bold).

[QUOTE=Danny227;2251083]Sharks has fewer girl, but was never so small. Armos is small. 50 girls is enough. I have that at world now and that's absolutely enough. Sharks will nit close its doors if tourist will not come from Asia or the US. Its core clients are Europeans. Crossing the borders from France or taking a short flight from London is not really a big deal. I have friends who almost weekly from Torin and I don't consider them fly in. Sharks will not close its door with out fly in mongers. World is slow, but still have some perfect days there. Point remains the same: big clubs are not, were not and will not be depended on fly in mongers. Fact.[/QUOTE]Katalina now at Globe worked at Sharks on 2013 and told me, compare to April 2016 when I discovered her, before following her at Globe, then advised Megan about. 30/40 girls on 2013 , about 50 on week ends on 2014 , when I discovered on February, tried for first Roxana before silicon, Dina, Cosmina who was brunette, Andrea. Bu, but when I found Isabella who was with Laura now mum at Oase, then previous couldn't compete.

When most of Germans don't give much business to girls, same for turkish who prefer bottles than girls at night, 150 girls could not eat without tourists and they usually pay more expensive, overcharged, or tipping.

When I read about Svenja who is lovely, but when she spoke about Globe, we with a Swiss guy told her she is not on level.

I would be happy to find elegant beauty like Andrea. Du who claimed after to be Ukrainian when she worked between Sharks and Oase, would be motivated for such beauty, but didn't see any on my last visits.

Well JPR, that was not only a report of distinction, it was a damn fine piece of prose and frankly the best Field Report I've ever read. Great combo of intel, letting the rest of us live the dream vicariously, and literally laugh out loud funny in several spots. Well done sir!

The one insight I might have is on girls not remembering you. The one little tiff I got into with Thifany in London was when she wanted to buy some Ecstacy from a shady Nigerian dude. We avoided that little fiasco; but later, when cooler heads prevailed, she told me about X from her POV. For her, it makes her just really happy and friendly and just has the best time with everyone. The only side effect is she really can't remember anything or anyone during that time.

I don't think it would be surprising at all that some of the club girls do X and as a result don't remember you later. This could explain the mystery!

P.S. Drug afficianados please don't flame me. This is just what I was told.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2251590]
[URL]https://www.scribd.com/document/184666612/Prostitution-in-Deutschland-Von-Helmut-Sporer-Kripo-Augsburg[/URL]
The link above is a paper presented by Helmut Sporer (Kriminalpolizeiinspektion Augsburg). On page 4, he discusses mongers ("Freier" Paragraph 5 specifically mentions internet sites where mongers discuss topics intensively. He is also talking about new trends he is noticing (I. E. How mongers are becoming more depraved and bold).[/QUOTE]Helmut Sporer was giving this talk in 2013 in Brussels. And in many points he was right, I would say. These points mentioned by him and other insights led to the new prostitution law in Germany, and with regards to FKK-club Sharks, became effective in the county of Hesse in January 2018.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2251590]They want the world to know that mongers are these depraved vampires that prey on young girls.[/QUOTE]I am sure he would be very much interested in the research published in the latest epic work of Jnpr30. (big smiley).
What a fate for these romanian girls: they want to escape the romanian vampires and they end up being confronted with the army of international vampires flooding german brothels (NeoVampirism).

Steve9696, Ortos, UncleOx, and Pksimar thank you all very much for your especially kind words.

I reread my long note and in some places the spelling was so atrocious and words and phrases mangled terribly. Sorry about that. I typed up the report on my iPad and the virtual keyboard plus spell correct combo sometimes leads to weird stuff. Hope you got the gist of it, and if not you didn't miss much, LOL.

Ortos you are probably right. She was quite busy most of the time on the days I was in and I don't think I got a good sense of her preferred location. I guess not all fish tank girls are sharks, LOL.

On my prior trip, I typed up her name as Zainab. Some other gentleman corrected me a while later, saying Zainab is a Pakistani name and Zyenep or Zyeneb was the right spelling. I will go with the b instead of p then. She is pretty good now, and very clearly better than in June. Wish I had grabbed her a couple of more times.

Steve9696. I like your explanation. I was thinking it was just my face and tse tse personality that brings out any dormant amnesia from these girls. I think your clarification sounds better 😀😀

PK: I know roughly half the girls from the past. I do write down the names of new girls on my phone, once at the half way point and then at the end of the day. I bet I have a good number of typos and errors, as Nick pointed out re: Patricia.

UncleOx: thanks for the Xenia tip again. Yeah, You are right. I was in real time communication with a friend and he said "4 hrs is a long Session for you". Scary, this guy seems to know the mongering side of me than I know of myself, LOL. Normally, I never do more than 90 min. I had a handful with Tatiana at 2 to 2 1/2 hours, and had one long session with Aylice just once at 3 to 4 hrs. I think if I had met Xenia every day it would have been more normal but given that I met her so late in the trip, I just stayed with her More or less till closing time. But she is quite popular already and has a number of customers. I just hope she stays at Sharks and not move on to greener pastures.

Fkk84: yes, Jill was in. I have listed her in my LU.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2251686]
On my prior trip, I typed up her name as Zainab. Some other gentleman corrected me a while later, saying Zainab is a Pakistani name and Zyenep or Zyeneb was the right spelling. I will go with the b instead of p then.[/QUOTE]When I asked her to spell out her name during a session I had with her the week after she first arrived she said it was Z-E-Y-N-E-P.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2251753]When I asked her to spell out her name during a session I had with her the week after she first arrived she said it was Z-E-Y-N-E-P.[/QUOTE]Zeynep is correct. Knowing the turkish origin and using the internet possibilities, it is so easy nowadays to find the correct spelling, e. G. Here:

[URL]https://www.babynamesdirect.com/girl/zeynep[/URL]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeynep[/URL]

One of the meanings of "Zeynep": Daughter of the Prophet Muhammed!

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2251840]Zeynep is correct. Knowing the turkish origin and using the internet possibilities, it is so easy nowadays to find the correct spelling, e. G. Here:

[URL]https://www.babynamesdirect.com/girl/zeynep[/URL]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeynep[/URL]

One of the meanings of "Zeynep": Daughter of the Prophet Muhammed![/QUOTE]Why don't we just call her "Zena, the Wonder Girl" and be done with it?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2251627]P.S. Drug afficianados please don't flame me. This is just what I was told.[/QUOTE]Well, I'll try not to flame. That is not X, not in the least. Ecstasy has no memory impairment side effects. The rest does sound accurate though. In any case not a drug to do everyday.

And if only. If it was widely taken on a particular day by the girls that day would be known as your greatest mongering day, period.

Hi guys,

What do you think of Eleanor? The brunette girl with light eyes sitting on the left of the stairs for the whirlpool area?

[QUOTE=LMatador;2251857]Well, I'll try not to flame. That is not X, not in the least. Ecstasy has no memory impairment side effects. The rest does sound accurate though. In any case not a drug to do everyday.

And if only. If it was widely taken on a particular day by the girls that day would be known as your greatest mongering day, period.[/QUOTE]Better to keep a clear head, even I will never drink any alcohol in a club or with a prostitute.

Jnpr30,

Thank you very much for your reply.

Your writing is very impressive.

But Jill does not have a fake breasts. Her breasts are natural.

And not blonde anyway Jill is in Shark.

[QUOTE=Striker699;2245280]Thanks for all your reports and the recommendation of Mila last night, she was great.

I had actually read all your reports before meeting you at Sharks last night. Didn't realise it was you until I got home though and reread the posts about Arya.

As a fellow newbie to the FKK, your reports helped a lot.

It would have been great if we met earlier, the experience is a lot more fun if you have some people to talk to in between sessions I think.

Just a heads up on the Frankfurt train ticket cost. The weekly 25 euro ticket only covers the Frankfurt areas closer to the city, it is region 3. Darmstadt is region 5 so it is a more expensive ticket, about 16.5 euro for a daily ticket.

I found the bus from Darmstadt to be easy, as well as walking 15 minutes from Darmstadt-Nord so never had to take a taxi from the station.[/QUOTE]Hey man!

Didn't realize you were that guy either. Its funny sometimes how things go. Yeah it would have been so much more fun to actually talk with someone in between sessions. I kinda wanted to be on the low end from people knowing who I was but at the last day it became one of my biggest regrets since I also met another group of people that was on here too and we had a great chat. If I had said something here I might have had a bit more fun in between sessions. You never know though we might meet each other in the future. Cause I know for sure I will revisit.

I'm happy you had a good time with Arya / Milla. She is by far one of my most favorite girls. Anita is however my favorite one and she is a bit more on the "calm" side rather than Millas more fiery personality. Both are rank 1&2 in my book in any case.

Yeah I found out about that 25 euro ticket the hard way LOL, I got past 3 people doing controls but the fourth guy told me about it and I apologized and said I honestly had no idea and he gave me a pass if I paid for just 1 one way ticket. Lucky me!

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2234092]
When I was having my 'lunch', a red-haired girl was also eating there. Presuming that she is the Viorica that Uncle Ox reported so highly about a few months ago, I asked her when she left the restaurant whether she was free for a session. She said she was not, and then went to the pinball machine. Looks like here was a girl who preferred to spend money than to make money! (Or maybe she has hit upon a technique to milk the machine.).[/QUOTE]I had no idea who this Viorica was until somebody mentioned how great her service is. I never would have expected it by the looks of her on the floor. Supposedly, in the room she does her magic.

That was Viorica you talked to. Supposedly, she gets really glued to the machine, and she'd rather be on machines at times. So, it's just bad timing. It sounds like you really can't go wrong with her.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2251590]Authorities and human rights activists want to paint mongers as villains (see link below). They do read the sex forums for insight into the monger's mind. They want the world to know about the "violation of human rights" that occurs in the brothels of Germany. They want the world to know that mongers are these depraved vampires that prey on young girls. Mongers demand these "unsafe" services, and contribute to an environment where young girls are forced (economic pressure) to perform these unsafe acts for each and every customer.

[URL]https://www.scribd.com/document/184666612/Prostitution-in-Deutschland-Von-Helmut-Sporer-Kripo-Augsburg[/URL]

The link above is a paper presented by Helmut Sporer (Kriminalpolizeiinspektion Augsburg). On page 4, he discusses mongers ("Freier" Paragraph 5 specifically mentions internet sites where mongers discuss topics intensively. He is also talking about new trends he is noticing (I. E. How mongers are becoming more depraved and bold).[/QUOTE]Well, perhaps he missed the whole anti-social-justice-warrior humor which can be a major part of these online forums. A bounce back from all the over the top feminism in politics and media lately. So we get these guys like Jordan Peterson, or the gamer who hit a feminist he later fed to a crockodile in red dead redemption 2 and got banned from youtube for it. This is the online sphere. Like a computer game. Its not real!

But to claim we abuse the girls is a massive lie. By far the majority in here treat these girls like princesses or queens (as long as there is a budget for it). But he won't know that before he tries it himself. Or maybe with him, it would be abuse because he may be an idiot and a dumpster himself. Thinking he knows others best through himself. (I'm just writing this in case he reads it). I guess he should meet Silvana or Olympia (sharks) at a tight corridor for example if he believes there is only young tender girls around.

[QUOTE=FKk84;2251977]Jnpr30,

Thank you very much for your reply.

Your writing is very impressive.

But Jill does not have a fake breasts. Her breasts are natural.

And not blonde anyway Jill is in Shark.[/QUOTE]Thanks Fkk84.

There was one Jill at the German tables.

Slightly older look.

(In general, the women hanging out at the German tables seem to be older and not as slim. I don't know how many of them are German but I still call them German tables).

This Jill is somewhat playful. Came upto me and asked "hey I am Jill, do you want to prostitute me?" And laughed out loud.

I shouldn't have said fake tits. I didn't feel them up. They looked a bit big and fake to me, but I could be wrong.

She is tall (170 cm or more).

P.S. Who is the slim blonde with back fully tattooed that also hangs out by the German tables? Has slightly older face, short blondish hair that she keeps in a pony tail. Has been around for a few years. I forgot her name. I have seen her on most of my visits and she was there in the club on every day of my visits last week. She never cheats on the FKK part and is always fully naked.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2252090]P.S. Who is the slim blonde with back fully tattooed that also hangs out by the German tables? Has slightly older face, short blondish hair that she keeps in a pony tail. Has been around for a few years. I forgot her name. I have seen her on most of my visits and she was there in the club on every day of my visits last week. She never cheats on the FKK part and is always fully naked.[/QUOTE]She is "no kissing" Lara.

But there is another slim German girl there now. Had not had a chance to talk to her.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2251631]Helmut Sporer was giving this talk in 2013 in Brussels. And in many points he was right, I would say. These points mentioned by him and other insights led to the new prostitution law in Germany, and with regards to FKK-club Sharks, became effective in the county of Hesse in January 2018.

I am sure he would be very much interested in the research published in the latest epic work of Jnpr30. (big smiley).
What a fate for these romanian girls: they want to escape the romanian vampires and they end up being confronted with the army of international vampires flooding german brothels (NeoVampirism).[/QUOTE]Its a double edged sword really. We live in a capitalist world where people need to work for their money. Girls choose an usually well paid job in an FKK club over flipping burgers at a McDonalds and getting obese while doing it, sniffing in lard. And this Helmut guy claims the girls choosing the FKK are the ones being abused. The food industry is abusing us far more with their toxins. Sex is actually healthy, while junk food can give them cancer.

But there is also the side of this being a market place. Some guys seems to long for passion in these clubs, like that Australian 1200 men fucked prostitute wrote about; most guys searching for passion. Not sex. So when girls turn down passionate requests, or add in upselling for it, mongers may become depraved, or annoyed at mr. Helmut's new regulations. After all, we live in a world where sex robots is about to become a thing. But if everyone is being too politically correct all the time, then we turn into robots, and passion is lost in the process. But guys seems to want passion. And in the process, the market will be in danger of collapse as the girls are being told not to do this and that. And then these 'economically abused girls' (yes, irony) who makes more money in average than the average monger will loose their source of income. It is like this one escort told me a couple of months ago: "I do everything. Why the hell would I keep doing this job if I would be holding back on something? That would be like saying I don't like the job".

And the end result of Mr. Helmut the brave will finally be 10 000 new McDonald's recruits in Romania in 2030 instead of in an FKK. And 15 years later these saved fated girls will all have cancer or cardiac disease.

Somebody give him a medal!

Of course there is a limit on what to expect, but I am not sure the regulations goes there.

Until we have all basic income, this is how the world works!

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2252109]She is "no kissing" Lara.

But there is another slim German girl there now. Had not had a chance to talk to her.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I now see in my list a Lara and don't remember if it was this no kissing Lara or another Lara that I noted down.

BTW, despite the policy of two girls not having the same name, there were at least a few such pairs. I think there are two Selinas, two Patricias and perhaps one or two other pairs.

With so many girls, who the heck is enforcing the rule so strictly at the club and who is checking? No one I think.

The new girl you mention - could it be Leoni? She is German. Is she the one from Frankfurt? (I forgot, but I do remember speaking to a German girl who is local to FRA). Leoni is new. Has small tits, cute face, reasonably tall. But sometimes she hangs by the bar as well.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2246589]Maybe that is similar to her name but I went with a Serena I think in the past was decent. Selina maybe? A few little blonds sit there one[/QUOTE]OK, I guess your 'little' is larger than my 'little'. To me, the only little blond in the dance pole couches is Serena, while the only little brunette on those couches is Mina.

Anyway, in order to get the name of the somewhat less 'little' blonde who sits there and who has always aggressively hunted Asians, I asked her name on Monday and she said she was Selena. She has somewhat saggy boobs, if that would help you confirm she is indeed the one. I forgot to report this earlier until I saw Jnpr's post below.

Yeah, Serena has small perky tits, can't be more than A size. She is also wrapping herself in a towel these days, don't know why because she is slim and pretty. Did she put on any weight, and does that explain the towel? Don't think I got a glimpse of her w / o the towel on this trip. She is also offering threesomes with that bigger, talller dirty blonde hair girl who has a pretty face and a spark in eyes, forgot her name. I had sessioned with the latter more than a year ago, was a waste of time. If I look up my old reports, I might remember her name. For a while she was part of the Cosmina / Evita gang.

Serena herself is a lousy service provider too. She gave me a CBJ, that I do remember. That was maybe a year ago, since then, I refused any more sessions with her, but she keeps asking me every time because she knows I went with her once. Unless I read here that she has truly changed for the better and service vastly improved, I will avoid her. A pity because she is pretty and very much my spec.

Selina has been around for a while. She indeed has the sagging tits. She is quite pleasant and talks to me on every trip. So far I haven't been with her, as her optics don't suit me well. I suspect she gives much better service than Serena. But if optics are not in the range, tough to get and stay excited in a session. There is a new brunette Selina who is a friend of the sagging tits blonde Selina.

Does Mina provide good service? I got to talk to her just once, and then never saw her again on Sunday. On Friday, she was apparently in the club but never even saw her. Constantly booked. She is hot. Either she also provides great service, or she is getting long and multiple bookings based just on looks.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2252112]new girl you mention - could it be Leoni? She is German. Is she the one from Frankfurt? (I forgot, but I do remember speaking to a German girl who is local to FRA). Leoni is new. Has small tits, cute face, reasonably tall. But sometimes she hangs by the bar as well.[/QUOTE]Leoni, De, about 26 yo. She is new now. But I am curious if she is the German girl "Leonie", who was a top-notch at Sharks a few years ago, mentioned by many ISGers at that time.

I had a session with her at this trip. OK session. I did want to give her another try, but Mandy came. I went with Mandy without hesitation. LOL.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2252125]Yeah, Serena has small perky tits, can't be more than A size. She is also wrapping herself in a towel these days, don't know why because she is slim and pretty. Did she put on any weight, and does that explain the towel? .... Unless I read here that she has truly changed for the better and service vastly improved, I will avoid her. A pity because she is pretty and very much my spec.
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Does Mina provide good service? I got to talk to her just once, and then never saw her again on Sunday. On Friday, she was apparently in the club but never even saw her. Constantly booked. She is hot. Either she also provides great service, or she is getting long and multiple bookings based just on looks.[/QUOTE]No, Serena has not put on any weight. Either she is cold, or she is becoming self-conscious in being too slim. I take her now and then for single sessions just for the optics. And she has a very sweet character.

I have taken Mina a few times. She is very erratic. She behaves and talks like a naughty schoolgirl. So if you are in the mood to play-act bullying a naive schoolgirl, she could fit your needs. I extended to 90 minutes once with her as I happened to be in such a mood that day instead of doing serious fucking. When I am not in such a mood, then it might be hard to get past 1 session, as she is not that talented on the service side and instead tends to yak or moan (depending on her mood that day) a lot. And like a typical spoilt child, she only works 3-4 days a week and spends away all the money with her boyfriend on the other days, which is why you do not see her often in the club.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2252125]Yeah, Serena has small perky tits, can't be more than A size. She is also wrapping herself in a towel these days, don't know why because she is slim and pretty. Did she put on any weight, and does that explain the towel? Don't think I got a glimpse of her w / o the towel on this trip. She is also offering threesomes with that bigger, talller dirty blonde hair girl who has a pretty face and a spark in eyes, forgot her name. I had sessioned with the latter more than a year ago, was a waste of time. If I look up my old reports, I might remember her name. For a while she was part of the Cosmina / Evita gang.

Serena herself is a lousy service provider too. She gave me a CBJ, that I do remember. That was maybe a year ago, since then, I refused any more sessions with her, but she keeps asking me every time because she knows I went with her once. Unless I read here that she has truly changed for the better and service vastly improved, I will avoid her. A pity because she is pretty and very much my spec.

Selina has been around for a while. She indeed has the sagging tits. She is quite pleasant and talks to me on every trip. So far I haven't been with her, as her optics don't suit me well. I suspect she gives much better service than Serena. But if optics are not in the range, tough to get and stay excited in a session. There is a new brunette Selina who is a friend of the sagging tits blonde Selina.

Does Mina provide good service? I got to talk to her just once, and then never saw her again on Sunday. On Friday, she was apparently in the club but never even saw her. Constantly booked. She is hot. Either she also provides great service, or she is getting long and multiple bookings based just on looks.[/QUOTE]Better you make your own opinion about a girl.

[QUOTE=UncleOx;2252130]Leoni, De, about 26 yo. She is new now. But I am curious if she is the German girl "Leonie", who was a top-notch at Sharks a few years ago, mentioned by many ISGers at that time.

I had a session with her at this trip. OK session. I did want to give her another try, but Mandy came. I went with Mandy without hesitation. LOL.[/QUOTE]I don't think I have seen this new Leoni that you and I are thinking of, 3 years ago.

Also, I can't recall the Leoni of the the past. But I do remember having very fine sessions with her sister, if it is the same Leoni you mention. A blonde, not super slim but a fantastic service provider as I remember (Almost as good as Mandy for me. Can't remember her name but I think Siri said she went to GT). I vaguely remember that she (the sister) told me that Leoni got married and had a child. May be I am mixing up things in my mind.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2252326]I don't think I have seen this new Leoni that you and I are thinking of, 3 years ago.

Also, I can't recall the Leoni of the the past. But I do remember having very fine sessions with her sister, if it is the same Leoni you mention. A blonde, not super slim but a fantastic service provider as I remember (Almost as good as Mandy for me. Can't remember her name but I think Siri said she went to GT). I vaguely remember that she (the sister) told me that Leoni got married and had a child. May be I am mixing up things in my mind.[/QUOTE]German blond with pretty face and small tits, Leoni, met on September, is lovely and playful to chat, telling about making love, good point, but saying not french kissing, maybe German love, but not for a french lover, so even she was the most attractive for me because woman type, but I didn't want to feel frustrated, so I turned around many many times, good for legs and heart, and finished for 1 h with enthusiastic Svenja who dreamed about Globe, but each girl own level. I don't remember another German Leoni before at Sharks, I remember Mandy tried GT when she was not so busy at Sharks.

Did you find same level for love in bed than Bulgarian princess Aylice? She was as great as small, and quite sporty. Really pity she became silicon and then blocked my mind even had a really high level for 2 hours, last room and despite silicon, she was even more woman in bed on end of January 2016, but at this time, beauties at Sharks: Megan, Karin, Katalina even only once at Sharks. Katalina, Alice at Sharks, would have been my only girl at Sharks and then she would not need to be jealous like at Globe.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2251605]Katalina now at Globe worked at Sharks on 2013 and told me, compare to April 2016 when I discovered her, before following her at Globe, then advised Megan about. 30/40 girls on 2013 , about 50 on week ends on 2014 , when I discovered on February, tried for first Roxana before silicon, Dina, Cosmina who was brunette, Andrea. Bu, but when I found Isabella who was with Laura now mum at Oase, then previous couldn't compete.

When most of Germans don't give much business to girls, same for turkish who prefer bottles than girls at night, 150 girls could not eat without tourists and they usually pay more expensive, overcharged, or tipping.

When I read about Svenja who is lovely, but when she spoke about Globe, we with a Swiss guy told her she is not on level.

I would be happy to find elegant beauty like Andrea. Du who claimed after to be Ukrainian when she worked between Sharks and Oase, would be motivated for such beauty, but didn't see any on my last visits.[/QUOTE]Sharks was perfect in those days. No complaints. Line up is not even close now to that level. There are many girls now, but quality is lower. Harmony and golden time were perfect in last visits. Anyway, can't keep addressing the impertinent elements. Ignorance is bliss.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2252382]German blond with pretty face and small tits, Leoni, met on September, is lovely and playful to chat, telling about making love, good point, but saying not french kissing, maybe German love, but not for a french lover, so even she was the most attractive for me because woman type, but I didn't want to feel frustrated, so I turned around many many times, good for legs and heart, and finished for 1 h with enthusiastic Svenja who dreamed about Globe, but each girl own level. I don't remember another German Leoni before at Sharks, I remember Mandy tried GT when she was not so busy at Sharks.

Did you find same level for love in bed than Bulgarian princess Aylice? She was as great as small, and quite sporty. Really pity she became silicon and then blocked my mind even had a really high level for 2 hours, last room and despite silicon, she was even more woman in bed on end of January 2016, but at this time, beauties at Sharks: Megan, Karin, Katalina even only once at Sharks. Katalina, Alice at Sharks, would have been my only girl at Sharks and then she would not need to be jealous like at Globe.[/QUOTE]I did not session with the new Leoni or the prior one, Siri. The new Leoni is good but not quite my sepc. I doubt that I will ever session with her. However, she is pretty enough and is a nice gal, I think.

I remembered the sister of prior Leoni was Lis. I think it was you who said she had moved to GT. Lis was a fabulous girl, in my view.

As for Aylice, I certainly miss her; she retired way too early in my view. I spoke to Manuela last week and she was not sure where Aylice is, but thinks perhaps Aylice moved back to Bulgaria and got married. But she was just speculating, I think.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2252461]I did not session with the new Leoni or the prior one, Siri. The new Leoni is good but not quite my sepc. I doubt that I will ever session with her. However, she is pretty enough and is a nice gal, I think.

I remembered the sister of prior Leoni was Lis. I think it was you who said she had moved to GT. Lis was a fabulous girl, in my view.

As for Aylice, I certainly miss her; she retired way too early in my view. I spoke to Manuela last week and she was not sure where Aylice is, but thinks perhaps Aylice moved back to Bulgaria and got married. But she was just speculating, I think.[/QUOTE]If you mean German blond Liz from Berlin, my GT, Summer 2013 girl, yes she returned to GT, she was friend with Aylin. At, and I m afraid she gave her a very bad idea for tits. Never repeated after July 2013, but she never forgot, always welcoming and smiling, never forgetting about my passions.

On 2015, there was German blond Lisa who worked before at Bumsalp with splendid Anna. Pol I got at World for 11th birthday, when I discovered her, I went with Anna everyday, beauty and great sex, she was full services. Lisa got more tattoos on leg while she was working at Sharks. Really lovely, I asked her so many times about where was Anna? She saw us at World.

I wish the best to Aylice who was what was Sharks quality, high level girl even not impressive look but I loved her smile and how she looked at me, no upselling.

Just to update. I was at Shark's last week and got to spend quality time with Brenda. Funny girl.

A big thanks to the guys who were able to provide intel on Brenda's whereabouts.

Made my day.

Howie.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2252461].................I remembered the sister of prior Leoni was Lis. I think it was you who said she had moved to GT. Lis was a fabulous girl, in my view...............[/QUOTE]In July, 2016 I sessioned a Liz (De). She said she was from Frankfurt and worked in a gym, she was very good. Never saw her again.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2252728]In July, 2016 I sessioned a Liz (De). She said she was from Frankfurt and worked in a gym, she was very good. Never saw her again.[/QUOTE]And for sure she didn't work in a gym in Frankfurt. But anywhere else in any kind of job.

Heading to Sharks for the first time in a couple of weeks and just wondered if there was a cash point there or one that was near by? Will be exchanging some cash before I travel, however will prob want to get some while out there. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Fox13;2252805]Heading to Sharks for the first time in a couple of weeks and just wondered if there was a cash point there or one that was near by? Will be exchanging some cash before I travel, however will prob want to get some while out there. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Cash machine on the right inside club.

My German blond, blue eyes, shy smile, Liz is from Berlin and worked until 2013 at Artemis. A bit more than 30 yo now. Super GFE even out of the room, looking at me with her blue eyes.

[QUOTE=Fox13;2252805]Heading to Sharks for the first time in a couple of weeks and just wondered if there was a cash point there or one that was near by? Will be exchanging some cash before I travel, however will prob want to get some while out there. Thanks.[/QUOTE]There is an ATM inside the club.

[QUOTE=Fox13;2252805]Heading to Sharks for the first time in a couple of weeks and just wondered if there was a cash point there or one that was near by? Will be exchanging some cash before I travel, however will prob want to get some while out there. Thanks.[/QUOTE]There is a ATM in the lobby.

[QUOTE=Fox13;2252805]Heading to Sharks .. if there was a cash point there or one that was near by? Will be exchanging some cash ....[/QUOTE]You're allowed to bring EURO 10,000 in coming from outside the European Union. I don't know the fees you're charged and the forex rate to be considered using the Sharks ATM or any other in Germany. I suggest to draw 500 Euro to cover entrance fee, taxi from / to Darmstadt HBF, train ticket Frankfurt-Darmstadt. Remaining EUR 400 for four sessions one hour each (without gaurantee for DTK …..).

[QUOTE=Akibono;2252909]There is an ATM inside the club.[/QUOTE]ATM inside clubs very often come with outrageous transaction fees, at least for holders of European cards. The difference may be less for cards from outside the EU. If you can, locate a German bank near where you are (Commerzbank, Stadtsparkasse etc.) and use their ATM.

[QUOTE=Tedesco;2252983]You're allowed to bring EURO 10,000 in coming from outside the European Union. I don't know the fees you're charged and the forex rate to be considered using the Sharks ATM or any other in Germany. I suggest to draw 500 Euro to cover entrance fee, taxi from / to Darmstadt HBF, train ticket Frankfurt-Darmstadt. Remaining EUR 400 for four sessions one hour each (without gaurantee for DTK ..).[/QUOTE]Thanks all for the info, much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Akibono;2252909]There is an ATM inside the club.[/QUOTE]One of the days last week, the ATM was not properly functioning. A girl told me that she and another girl with a different customer could not get paid fully because their customers could not take cash out. On my way out, I also saw a customer cursing the ATM. I did not ask him, but I guess he had a problem too.

Anybody knows if Brenda is this WE there?

[QUOTE=Howie;2252687]Just to update. I was at Shark's last week and got to spend quality time with Brenda. Funny girl.

A big thanks to the guys who were able to provide intel on Brenda's whereabouts.

Made my day.

Howie.[/QUOTE]Anybody knows if Brenda is in Sharks this WE?

For this reason I always have a 80 e reserve in my purse. And another 30 e reserve in my mobile phone. Totalling 110 e.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2253052]One of the days last week, the ATM was not properly functioning. A girl told me that she and another girl with a different customer could not get paid fully because their customers could not take cash out. On my way out, I also saw a customer cursing the ATM. I did not ask him, but I guess he had a problem too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2253052]One of the days last week, the ATM was not properly functioning. A girl told me that she and another girl with a different customer could not get paid fully because their customers could not take cash out. On my way out, I also saw a customer cursing the ATM. I did not ask him, but I guess he had a problem too.[/QUOTE]There was a time immemorial where the ATM in the Sharks lobby paid out cash to your card's cash limit in one hit. Then lately the lobby ATM at Sharks limited one to 150 bucks per extraction. Thus to get more cold hard cash you have to perform a further transaction. I would also curse the ATM because of this. Really annoying.

As far as my experience is there is no fees charged by the ATM. If you have a non euro card and you choose to take cash using the ATM's foreign exchange rate if you are not in the euro then the rate is not quite wholesale bank rates. If you are in the euro then there is no spread on foreign exchange conversion rates.

If you do not want to use the ATM in the Sharks lobby then you can wander across to the Rewe store around the corner to use the ATM there.

Yeah, a lot of guys deliberately stuff up knowing how to use the ATM to avoid paying the girls saying they cannot access their in surplus bank balance.

The ATM inside the HBF is nice. I like too eat lunch around the train station before heading to Sharks (it is good to eat at least one decent meal outside as we are cooped up inside the club for the rest of the day and forced to eat that trash served by them), and on the way to Sharks I like to pick up 500 E or more every day. If I don't spend that much daily, I keep accumulating some extra cash. Over 4,5 days that builds up to a tidy sum. I also pick up a decent amount right after getting off the plane in the airport.

A few years ago, I used to use the Sharks ATM. But as Bitumen said, it has become less reliable and useless. Now, I just make sure to plan ahead.
One American dude I was talking to said that a couple of years ago, he ran out of cash and the ATM did not work and he almost got beat up by the club cops. I guess he learned his lesson now.

Still, DE remains such a cash dependent society. Strange, seeing how the rest of developed world is moving to electronic cash so quickly. Not just the west, it is even more advanced in China. DE remains some what of an anachronism.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-02-06/germany-is-still-obsessed-with-cash

In Switzerland, you can pay entry and girls with credit card. At Globe and brothers, they accept €.

At Wellcum. At or Marina. Slv, You can pay entry with credit card and get cash from desk with credit card.

Bad if ATM in Sharks, don t work. Not since long time at Sharks, but sometimes I let time running when the girl is great.

Bit about Friday and Sat at Sharks, medium busy. Girls bit upset that not much customers. Did not notice line ups of 200 girls though LOL. I would say 50-70.

Friday was bit tired to had couple of shots with a nice brunette and left home. Saturday was bit more fresh and made 5 shots with same dream-girl which was amazing. She is very discrete, nice time in the room and talking also amaaaazing blowjob and sex with her, no rush in things just relaxed and no worry about the time at all.

Hate seeing people washing their ass in the showers. Disgusting.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2253209]Still, DE remains such a cash dependent society. Strange, seeing how the rest of developed world is moving to electronic cash so quickly.[/QUOTE]Consider the industry. Electronic cash is more trackable. For various reasons the bears, ladies and clubs don't want accurate tracking of financials.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2253209]Still, DE remains such a cash dependent society. Strange, seeing how the rest of developed world is moving to electronic cash so quickly. Not just the west, it is even more advanced in China. DE remains some what of an anachronism.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-02-06/germany-is-still-obsessed-with-cash[/QUOTE]Strange, that men who believe they are part of the so-called "rest of developed world" come to cash-dependent FKK-clubs in Germany to fuck girls from underdeveloped countries (like Romania, Moldavian Republic, Bulgaria) in Europe. There must be quite a fascination to get in contact with so-called underdeveloped areas, money wise and fuckability wise.

[QUOTE=Lover28X;2253345]Bit about Friday and Sat at Sharks, medium busy. Girls bit upset that not much customers. Did not notice line ups of 200 girls though LOL. I would say 50-70.[/QUOTE]Yesterday, Saturday, there were more than 130 women there, for sure! Again an incredible amount of women there in the night!

[QUOTE=Lover28X;2253345]Hate seeing people washing their ass in the showers. Disgusting.[/QUOTE]Is there a cure for Assophobia? Maybe.Take off your glasses when showering or avoid using the showers. LOL.

[QUOTE=Fox13;2252805]Heading to Sharks for the first time in a couple of weeks and just wondered if there was a cash point there or one that was near by? Will be exchanging some cash before I travel, however will prob want to get some while out there. Thanks.[/QUOTE]As previously stated there is an ATM in the building at the entrance (expensive!) however I'm unsure whether the Reception would accept your own currency in exchange for Euro's?

I don't think Sharks provides this service although I know this can be done at Artemis but like the ATM it's at a poor rate.

With the recent discussions about Line Ups I'm somewhat apprehensive asking this question however as I'm visiting Sharks for the last time this year on Thursday (& Friday until 6 pm) can anyone tell me if the following ladies have been working the last few days??

Leoni (German), Xiomtara (German Colombian), Xenia, Sunny (Polish), Claudia, the popular Mandy, Jennifer (blonde).

Mona Lisa, Patricia (blonde) & Mia.

Despite going to Sharks several times recently I've yet to meet any of them and would be interested in "checking them out".

I don't have a good record of finding ladies too other than the German contingent who sit at the end of the bar near the buffet.

Many thanks if you can help.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2253535]Yesterday, Saturday, there were more than 130 women there, for sure! Again an incredible amount of women there in the night!

Is there a cure for Assophobia? Maybe.Take off your glasses when showering or avoid using the showers. LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's what I do buddy, meanwhile razors on the floor in showers does not feel fun as well.

Sometimes you feel there is a mix of normal people and some jerks with mental problems that treat these poor girls as animals.

[QUOTE=Canary;2253563]With the recent discussions about Line Ups I'm somewhat apprehensive asking this question however as I'm visiting Sharks for the last time this year on Thursday (& Friday until 6 pm) can anyone tell me if the following ladies have been working the last few days??

Leoni (German), Xiomtara (German Colombian), Xenia, Sunny (Polish), Claudia, the popular Mandy, Jennifer (blonde).

Mona Lisa, Patricia (blonde) & Mia.

Despite going to Sharks several times recently I've yet to meet any of them and would be interested in "checking them out".

I don't have a good record of finding ladies too other than the German contingent who sit at the end of the bar near the buffet.

Many thanks if you can help.[/QUOTE]Mandy and Mona Lisa were present and I believe they will still be around next week as they did not mention any impending travel plans. Mia was not present.

[QUOTE=Lover28X;2253602]Sometimes you feel there is a mix of normal people and some jerks with mental problems that treat these poor girls as animals.[/QUOTE]I am sure we all agree, it is always the others!

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2253209]Still, DE remains such a cash dependent society. Strange, seeing how the rest of developed world is moving to electronic cash so quickly. Not just the west, it is even more advanced in China. DE remains some what of an anachronism.[/QUOTE]The girls do have a slot, but you can't pull through your American Express Card They won't accept it.

Cash is not trash! Golden China again aha ok, don't think they got FKK Clubs like here in Germany, so your comparison is some kind of an anachronism too. (can't hear anymore "good" stories about China. On second look it's always and still a sinkhole country).

BTW Was in Sharks Saturday 11/24, booked 2 girls. One german mid-twenty Maria, blonde, nice service with massage, talking too much. Real "Ruhrpott"-dialect. She came wednsday leaving today Sunday, going back to her family near Gladbach I guess. Sounds like doesn't come back anymore, who knows. She told me, that she is insisting to sit alone, not at the german table. Yet I realised pretty quick, she's a real german girl.

Second room with romanian Loretta (I guess. Black haired slim girl, a bit less than 1,70. Reminds me a bit of an actress, younger Vera Farmiga. Very good service, nice girl, good attitude.

[QUOTE=Stuggi;2253699]The girls do have a slot, but you can't pull through your American Express Card They won't accept it.

Cash is not trash! Golden China again aha ok, don't think they got FKK Clubs like here in Germany, so your comparison is some kind of an anachronism too. (can't hear anymore "good" stories about China. On second look it's always and still a sinkhole country).

BTW Was in Sharks Saturday 11/24, booked 2 girls. One german mid-twenty Maria, blonde, nice service with massage, talking too much. Real "Ruhrpott"-dialect. She came wednsday leaving today Sunday, going back to her family near Gladbach I guess. Sounds like doesn't come back anymore, who knows. She told me, that she is insisting to sit alone, not at the german table. Yet I realised pretty quick, she's a real german girl.

Second room with romanian Loretta (I guess. Black haired slim girl, a bit less than 1,70. Reminds me a bit of an actress, younger Vera Farmiga. Very good service, nice girl, good attitude.[/QUOTE]I can tell you that the best sex with fresh girls is available in China far better than Thailand or Germany where most of the girls are over pro.

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2253372]Consider the industry. Electronic cash is more trackable. For various reasons the bears, ladies and clubs don't want accurate tracking of financials.[/QUOTE]Yes, in the clubs and in the paid sex industry I can perfectly understand. I too would not be rushing to use my corporate or even personal Amex anywhere near these places. I was thinking in general, DE is such a cash dependent nation. It is so different from even a relatively close neighbor such as Sweden. I think it is mostly down to historical and cultural reasons. I understand those issues, but still seems a bit strange.

In the coming week I have a time window and would like to come to Darmstadt. Question: Are Amalia and Elif back from their holidays?

[QUOTE=Stuggi;2253699]Second room with romanian Loretta (I guess. Black haired slim girl, a bit less than 1,70. Reminds me a bit of an actress, younger Vera Farmiga. Very good service, nice girl, good attitude.[/QUOTE]Yes, the name of this sweetie is Loretta, she is in her mid-twenties. BTW, she and Vera Ann Farmiga are born in the same month (different years of course).

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2253979]Yes, the name of this sweetie is Loretta, she is in her mid-twenties. BTW, she and Vera Ann Farmiga are born in the same month (different years of course).[/QUOTE]My session with Loretta.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2246043]3) Loretta: 1830-1930,100 E. Rom, 26 yo, slightly saggy B cup, long brunette, fairly pretty, slim, model, 165 cm, five months at Sharks, can kiss even for 30 min 50 E sessions. In a room caressing, 23 min DATY with her O, 2 min BJ, 3 min cowgirl, 2 min missionary, 3 min flat doggie, 13 min combination of miss and DATY, and my 15 min massage one her. May repeat.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hugo100;2253959]In the coming week I have a time window and would like to come to Darmstadt. Question: Are Amalia and Elif back from their holidays?[/QUOTE]They are back.

Thank you for the info. Probably on the 4th or 5th of December I fly in.

I hope that along with Elif and Amalia, the other line-up is also very cool.

I'm looking forward to the time at Sharks. Finally I can see the sight of.

Enjoy about 100 women. It is the garden for Eden for me.

[QUOTE=Hugo100;2254206]TEnjoy about 100 women. It is the garden for Eden for me.[/QUOTE]Some others call it the "devil's circus". Built vastly on illusions (money-based)! Be cautious and make sure to access the appropriate floor of that tantalizing glittering building.

If you catch any emotional / mental infections due to attachment, be sure to leave them completely at the reception when you leave the club. That is the secret of the art of "framing", respect the door and threshold you are passing!

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2253808]Yes, in the clubs and in the paid sex industry I can perfectly understand. I too would not be rushing to use my corporate or even personal Amex anywhere near these places. I was thinking in general, DE is such a cash dependent nation. It is so different from even a relatively close neighbor such as Sweden. I think it is mostly down to historical and cultural reasons. I understand those issues, but still seems a bit strange.[/QUOTE]I must be missing something somewhere. In Germany I use cash only at the clubs and KFC, which for some reason doesn't accept any of my alternative payment methods. Every now and then I use cash purposefully so I have change when I need to use the WC in a gas station. It may be different for others that aren't banking in the USA.

[QUOTE=Lover28X;2253345]...............Hate seeing people washing their ass in the showers. Disgusting.[/QUOTE]Last August I saw a guy washing his junk in a face basin. Don't want to name a nationality as I'm not 100% certain. I exclaimed aloud in disgust and he looked at me as if he wanted to fight. Meant to report him to management but got sidetracked on leaving the washing room area. Didn't see him again.

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2254470]I must be missing something somewhere. In Germany I use cash only at the clubs and KFC, which for some reason doesn't accept any of my alternative payment methods. Every now and then I use cash purposefully so I have change when I need to use the WC in a gas station. It may be different for others that aren't banking in the USA.[/QUOTE]The last line was supposed to read "are banking in the USA" or "you aren't banking in Europe". I bank, primarily, in Europe and live 90% cashless.

[QUOTE=Lover28X;2253345]Hate seeing people washing their ass in the showers. Disgusting.[/QUOTE]I'm confused. Where is it appropriate to wash your ass?

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2254470]I must be missing something somewhere. In Germany I use cash only at the clubs and KFC, which for some reason doesn't accept any of my alternative payment methods. Every now and then I use cash purposefully so I have change when I need to use the WC in a gas station. It may be different for others that aren't banking in the USA.[/QUOTE]Yeah, things have changed a bit over the past 4 years in Germany but a lot of the stereotypes seem to persist regarding German cash culture. While there are probably still more people using cash in comparisons to other nearby nations, I can't remember the last time I've had an issue using my card at a restaurant, grocery store, or other shop near a major city. The last time I had any issue was at a nightclub 2 years ago. The bartender said they couldn't open a tab. Having run out of cash, I had no problems paying for my drinks one 6 euro purchase at a time.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2254596]Last August I saw a guy washing his junk in a face basin. Don't want to name a nationality as I'm not 100% certain..[/QUOTE]I saw worse in that back bathroom in the men's locker room in the basin a guy was shaving his balls. I do not want to name nationalities as German is spoken in a few countries in that neck of the world but the man said Hello, and how are you in German. Considering it was the same day someone took a massive dump in the men's shower stinking up the bathroom I made nothing of it. Guess if shaving your nuts better in the sink than in the showers having the clippings floating for all to stand in.

Not sure management would care, seems more classless than breaking any rules. Either way.

I think the guy should have shaved at home and in your case left the basin for you to clean your hands and vashed his junk in the provided showers.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2254627]I saw worse in that back bathroom in the men's locker room in the basin a guy was shaving his balls. Guess if shaving your nuts its better in the sink than in the showers having the clippings floating for all to stand in. I think the guy should have shaved at home and in your case left the basin for you to clean your hands and washed his junk in the provided showers.[/QUOTE]At least Mr. Ho has the decency to shave his "anal" at home well before he arrives at the club. You see? He's not such a bad guy after all! LOLOLOL! Funniest thing I saw years ago was at Palace when I was new to the FKK scene.

I saw this guy in the shower bent over like he was in a rugby scrum washing his hairy arsehole out hahaha! Was too funny! WTH is wrong with some people doing such goofy-looking things in public?

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2254627]I saw worse in that back bathroom in the men's locker room in the basin a guy was shaving his balls. I do not want to name nationalities as German is spoken in a few countries in that neck of the world but the man said Hello, and how are you in German. Considering it was the same day someone took a massive dump in the men's shower stinking up the bathroom I made nothing of it. Guess if shaving your nuts better in the sink than in the showers having the clippings floating for all to stand in.

Not sure management would care, seems more classless than breaking any rules. Either way.

I think the guy should have shaved at home and in your case left the basin for you to clean your hands and vashed his junk in the provided showers.[/QUOTE]It was disgusting! Management should take care of that.

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2253372]Consider the industry. Electronic cash is more trackable. For various reasons the bears, ladies and clubs don't want accurate tracking of financials.[/QUOTE]Can pay with credit card at Oase, even for girls. Was possible before at YY NL. Possible in Switzerland, Austria and at Marina Slovenia.

IMHO much more disgusting is pooping guys making in addition rspective sounds in the toilet cabin and when finished not washing their hands but going straight forward into direction of the buffet in the restaurant. And that's not something unusual. The behaviour of most clients is very bad in that sense. I wonder why working girls regularly are blamed not to wash themselves enough when the time gap between payment and later return from the locker room is rather short. By the way, there is no need to explain it with ethnical arguments or nationality of the customers.

[QUOTE=Tedesco;2254804]IMHO much more disgusting is pooping guys making in addition rspective sounds in the toilet cabin and when finished not washing their hands but going straight forward into direction of the buffet in the restaurant. And that's not something unusual. The behaviour of most clients is very bad in that sense. I wonder why working girls regularly are blamed not to wash themselves enough when the time gap between payment and later return from the locker room is rather short. By the way, there is no need to explain it with ethnical arguments or nationality of the customers.[/QUOTE]I was so much looking forward to visiting Sharks again tomorrow for my last visit of the year but reading these recent pieces I'm somewhat put off!

Luckily I've never seen such disgusting behaviour although to be honest I don't really take much notice of men when showering.

I've always thought Artemis is cleaner than Sharks.

[QUOTE=DaWong949;2254680] It was disgusting! Management should take care of that.[/QUOTE]Management takes care. They put up signs everywhere that we have to use condoms for sexual intercourse. I am sure you yourself support these german laws and efforts by the management whole-heartedly! You are the prototype of a well-informed and well-behaved sex tourist.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2254596] Last August I saw a guy washing his junk in a face basin. ..... I exclaimed aloud in disgust and he looked at me as if he wanted to fight. Meant to report him to management but got sidetracked on leaving the washing room area. Didn't see him again.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2254627]I saw worse in that back bathroom in the men's locker room in the basin a guy was shaving his balls. ..... Guess if shaving your nuts better in the sink than in the showers having the clippings floating for all to stand in.
I think the guy should have shaved at home and in your case left the basin for you to clean your hands and vashed his junk in the provided showers.[/QUOTE]To me it seems many of you forget you are in a dirty german brothel, that by way of clever marketing names itself a "FKK-Club". I am sure some of you noticed that the place you long to go to is a brothel and not a clinic! Why do people think it is so dark in brothels / FKK-clubs? Because the dimmed and the reddish light helps to keep the place clean and sterile?

These basins are made for washing, mostly using the hands for washing something: so it is about washing and cleaning, no surprise!

Maybe you forgot you are in Germany! A culture shock? In Germany we use these basins to wash all accessible body parts, e. G. Arms, arm pit-holes, hands, legs, face, some people might even wash their nose or feet! Or dirty clothes. As long as someone has the intention to wash something with his hands and doesn't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] or shit in these basins, the basins are used in a proper way.

Can I ask sincerely: what is the cognitive problem with washing asses or genitals? Is anybody looking for a device to wash brains and dirty thoughts too? For himself or to suggest the use of this device to others?

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2254851]These basins are made for washing, mostly using the hands for washing something: so it is about washing and cleaning, no surprise!

Maybe you forgot you are in Germany! A culture shock? In Germany we use these basins to wash all accessible body parts, e. G. Arms, arm pit-holes, hands, legs, face, some people might even wash their nose or feet! Or dirty clothes.[/QUOTE]First, thank you to Germany for allowing me to be on tour for such a long stay. I have no issue with men washing any parts of their bodies, but I find it much easier to wash everything except hands and arms in the shower. The showers are free, and I use up my €30 worth of water and towels on each visit. The one thing I will say, usually if my dick needs washed I want to clean the rest of my body too.

A funny story about washing. Back in the day I was in Asian at a brothel. My buddy and I each selected a lady and went off to our designated areas for enjoyment. The lady steps up to me with a small plastic bowl full of look warm water and starts washing my junk. Suddenly from across the way my buddy shouts out, "fucking hell, cold water".

This said, the I'm so happy we have the option to enjoy such top quality establishments as FKK Sauna Clubs. Most even have warm water for washing.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2254851]Management takes care. They put up signs everywhere that we have to use condoms for sexual intercourse. I am sure you yourself support these german laws and efforts by the management whole-heartedly! You are the prototype of a well-informed and well-behaved sex tourist.

To me it seems many of you forget you are in a dirty german brothel, that by way of clever marketing names itself a "FKK-Club". I am sure some of you noticed that the place you long to go to is a brothel and not a clinic! Why do people think it is so dark in brothels / FKK-clubs? Because the dimmed and the reddish light helps to keep the place clean and sterile?

These basins are made for washing, mostly using the hands for washing something: so it is about washing and cleaning, no surprise!.[/QUOTE]For some reason, when envisioning the person giving this rant, I have a picture of the balding German Onion Groin guy.

We all know despite speaking German, the inside of these clubs are hardly German in culture. Considering the Girls, staff, sex tourist customers, and throw in the Turkish Germans. My guess is that at any given time, ethnic Germans make up less than 25% of a club, probably less than 10% after 10 pm.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2254596]Last August I saw a guy washing his junk in a face basin. I exclaimed aloud in disgust and he looked at me as if he wanted to fight. Meant to report him to management but got sidetracked on leaving the washing room area. Didn't see him again.[/QUOTE]Earlier this year, in a different club, I saw a guy coming out from the locker room after paying his girl head immediately to the toilet to wash his junk in the face basin. He stared at me in disgust for looking at his private part, left the toilet, went to the bar, embraced another girl and proceeded to a room. Turn around time of just 1 minute!!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2254596]Last August I saw a guy washing his junk in a face basin. Don't want to name a nationality as I'm not 100% certain. I exclaimed aloud in disgust and he looked at me as if he wanted to fight. Meant to report him to management but got sidetracked on leaving the washing room area. Didn't see him again.[/QUOTE]Many guys wash dick where we wash hands, so I start to wash the place before my hands.

I am also always surprised to see some guys taking shower with panty, so not washing their dick. Difficult job for girls, I understand why they return to some of us as soon they see us.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2254898]Earlier this year, in a different club, I saw a guy coming out from the locker room after paying his girl head immediately to the toilet to wash his junk in the face basin. He stared at me in disgust for looking at his private part, left the toilet, went to the bar, embraced another girl and proceeded to a room. Turn around time of just 1 minute!![/QUOTE]TT, I got that guy beat. In the summertime Dietz gets so hot to avoid sweating I will use Gold Bond Powder so I don't sweat after I shower after fucking and a few times before fucking in lieu of a complete shower and dry off I myself used the sink in the bathroom to vash any powder residue off (most absorbed by the skin anyway) prior to going to a room. Much faster and less work. I figure the rest of me is clean, why waste water and time. The showers were occupied, why not use the basin. I don't want to keep my Gypsy waiting and I highly doubt she would care I used the basin especially since one time it was a well known well loved and ' overfucked' Gypsy who will on her couch pluck the hairs out of her pussy and flick them in the air (she doesn't shave daily).

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2254851]
To me it seems many of you forget you are in a dirty german brothel, that by way of clever marketing names itself a "FKK-Club". I am sure some of you noticed that the place you long to go to is a brothel and not a clinic! Why do people think it is so dark in brothels / FKK-clubs? Because the dimmed and the reddish light helps to keep the place clean and sterile?

These basins are made for washing, mostly using the hands for washing something: so it is about washing and cleaning, no surprise!

Can I ask sincerely: what is the cognitive problem with washing asses or genitals? Is anybody looking for a device to wash brains and dirty thoughts too? For himself or to suggest the use of this device to others?[/QUOTE]I don't have an issue with guys cleaning their junk (front or back) nor guys using the sink, I think we just notice these things as ' out of the ordinary' compared to home. Than again I am in a W-house not the Ritz Carlton health club. This is why I do not think management would boot a guy for washing his junk in the men's room basin. I have seen guys both at health clubs here and brothels / FKKs there using the shower to empty their bladders as well, probably done it once maybe twice or more myself especially when your stall is right above the drain, why make an extra trip to the toilet just let it out although there is a sign not to do such at Dietzenbach written in German so I am probably the only guilty American (actually I highly doubt I am).

I agree on the cleverness of the marketing. It is brilliant and it does indeed fool many. These clubs are W-houses, brothels and everything but high end classy establishments. The food and amenities and fancy lockers and finish outs in the parlors and changing lights in saunas and steam rooms etc do not change the fact nor fool me as the place is full of women who fuck 10-20 men a day.

If one looks at the Mainhatten and Sharks websites for example the word ' Bordello' pops up. Sadly I think many men are fooled in to thinking the girls are better at ' A Sharks' than ' A Dietz' simply because of the establishment itself fooling them when if you ripped out all the lights and fancy shit at an FKK and compared it to a truly bare bones RTC what is left in both places? A bunch of women in the buff who take our money and let us shove our cocks in their mouths and pussies.

I personally didn't find the guy I saw shaving his nuts in the sink to be appalling, gross or worthy of complaining about. I'd personally shave at home but if anything I find it comical, almost entertainment. In a way it enhances the experience. Soaking in the culture of the home team, or in some cases contributing to it :D

Well, I wash my dick in the basin everytime after I [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]. I'm not going to take a shower after each visit to the bathroom and I don't think that the girls like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url]-flavored BJs.

[QUOTE=Takedown;2254602]I'm confused. Where is it appropriate to wash your ass?[/QUOTE]Well, sorry if the topic I started about hygiene takes too much reaction. But maybe it is psychological. But personally seeing a guy almost fingering his asshole than pushing on the shower button. Somehow pushes me off to use that showers and use the same buttons to push. And than seeing razors on the floors does not create a good impression.

My personal point of view and if you want to shave something, do it somewhere else at home for example. Why would you make the drains stuck in the FKK club shower? Worst case if you showered what the f* you leave the razors on the floor. Feels disrespect to others.

I really think the hygiene has to be a priority in such places and it needs some additional work on this topic. Even comparing to other places in Spain for example where girl comes with a sealed blanket and opens in front of you or takes fluor to wash her mouth after she did a BBJ to you. Just some things to follow that would increase the rating of such places and not transform it into a place of all kind of snakes.

Cheers!

The G. Is about us, not the others!

I am personally mortified by the apparent acceptance of totally unhygienic practices in shared washing areas but must remind myself of the disadvantages associated with locales devoted to indulgence in our baser instincts. Our enjoyment of the fairer sex must be disassociated from any thoughts of who may have been with her immediately before us and similarly when we brush our teeth in those "face" basins we must think only of the next object of our affections.

[QUOTE=Lover28X;2255088]I really think the hygiene has to be a priority in such places and it needs some additional work on this topic.[/QUOTE]If the guy is cleaning himself is that not practicing good hygiene? I don't shit in the showers or shave my ass or balls there either. I try to minimize my impact on the cleaning crew.

Speaking of fecal matter on things we touch, I read an article in the past that GSM are one of the most contaminated devices we come in contact with on a daily basis. When is the last time you freaked out when somebody used their phone at a dinner table. Even more recently I saw the news article linked below just today.

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/mcdonalds-touchscreens-test-positive-for-traces-of-feces-deadly-bacteria[/URL]

Thank you, I'll be ordering at the counter.

[QUOTE=Lover28X;2255088]Well, sorry if the topic I started about hygiene takes too much reaction. But maybe it is psychological. But personally seeing a guy almost fingering his asshole than pushing on the shower button. Somehow pushes me off to use that showers and use the same buttons to push. And than seeing razors on the floors does not create a good impression.

My personal point of view and if you want to shave something, do it somewhere else at home for example. Why would you make the drains stuck in the FKK club shower? Worst case if you showered what the f* you leave the razors on the floor. Feels disrespect to others.[/QUOTE]I'm with you with the pube shaving. I personally do it over the toilet if I have to quickly groom in the clubs.

I'm thinking you have to get over the ass washing though. After all, FKK is the German term for "free body culture," a certain degree of accepting the human form, asshole included is to be expected.

[QUOTE=Lover28X;2255088] Even comparing to other places in Spain for example where girl comes with a sealed blanket and opens in front of you[/QUOTE]I forgot about those, the seedier brothels in Madrid I went to had those. In a drawer next to the bed they had them stacked up or the girl after handing the madam the money would return with a condom and sheet. Thin plastic packet with light blue borders. They are like half cotton and half paper towel material. The Spaniards must go thru tens of thousands of those things a day. In some of those brothels the girl gives the guy a Sharks style vashing in the basin too but a lot of them had showers in each room.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2254919]TT, I got that guy beat. In the summertime Dietz gets so hot to avoid sweating I will use Gold Bond Powder so I don't sweat after I shower after fucking and a few times before fucking in lieu of a complete shower and dry off I myself used the sink in the bathroom to vash any powder residue off (most absorbed by the skin anyway) prior to going to a room. Much faster and less work. I figure the rest of me is clean, why waste water and time. The showers were occupied, why not use the basin. I don't want to keep my Gypsy waiting and I highly doubt she would care I used the basin especially since one time it was a well known well loved and ' overfucked' Gypsy who will on her couch pluck the hairs out of her pussy and flick them in the air (she doesn't shave daily).

I don't have an issue with guys cleaning their junk (front or back) nor guys using the sink, I think we just notice these things as ' out of the ordinary' compared to home. Than again I am in a W-house not the Ritz Carlton health club. This is why I do not think management would boot a guy for washing his junk in the men's room basin. I have seen guys both at health clubs here and brothels / FKKs there using the shower to empty their bladders as well, probably done it once maybe twice or more myself especially when your stall is right above the drain, why make an extra trip to the toilet just let it out although there is a sign not to do such at Dietzenbach written in German so I am probably the only guilty American (actually I highly doubt I am).[/QUOTE]What do you expect in a brothel where women go through 10-20 men a day? Want a higher class of women? Look for a higher end escort service. The woman will be well dressed and groomed like Siri likes. No waiting since she will arrive at the scheduled time. You pay for what you get.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2254960]Well, I wash my dick in the basin everytime after I . I'm not going to take a shower after each visit to the bathroom and I don't think that the girls like -flavored BJs.[/QUOTE]Reading between the codewords if I did correctly I too address this issue post emptying myself in the toilets. Just adding to the basin disgust for some and non FKK related at all the Redskins games back in the old RFK Stadium every Sunday growing up there were not enough toilets for all the men in between quarters and halftime so men started using the sinks for such codewords.

We finally figured out the culprits who started this were out of town guests from New York and Philadelphia who invaded the stadium for the Giants and Eagles games. Finally ' if you can't beat them join them' and the Washingtonians (and suburban Virginia / Maryland guys) copied the efficient neighbors to our north.

However in FKKs I usually upon completion of such Codewords will grab some toilet paper, get it wet in the basin and do a final rinse of my members tip ( not in the basin and toss the toilet paper in the garbage can) as to have it somewhat vashed for the next lady. I do not want to shower each time either unless it was Codeword#2 which goes without saying a shower always follows.

The problem is that I'm a very productive Codeword#2-er so I can't take a shower after each Codeword#2 unless if I want to peel all my skin away. I have no problem to wash my junk in the basin after Codeword#1 : the water is running, I use soap, there is nothing dirty. The dirty thing is when some guys leave the toilet after doing one of the two codeword# (or maybe both) without even washing their hands!

[QUOTE=Akibono;2255537]What do you expect in a brothel where women go through 10-20 men a day? Want a higher class of women? Look for a higher end escort service.[/QUOTE]You can't compare neither apples with peaches nor FKK clubs with escort service. Each market place is worth its existence matching preferences and moods of the respective customers.

Nonetheless rhe behaviour of some male customers is very special independent of ethnical origin. By the way, this week I joined a conference in Frankfurt. A lot of people sneezing, shaking hands over three days and enjoying self-service at the buffet. Wearing suits and ties but also forgetting to use the basin after the use of the toilet. Thus it's not only a club related problem.

[QUOTE=Tedesco;2256030]You can't compare neither apples with peaches nor FKK clubs with escort service. Each market place is worth its existence matching preferences and moods of the respective customers.

Nonetheless rhe behaviour of some male customers is very special independent of ethnical origin. By the way, this week I joined a conference in Frankfurt. A lot of people sneezing, shaking hands over three days and enjoying self-service at the buffet. Wearing suits and ties but also forgetting to use the basin after the use of the toilet. Thus it's not only a club related problem.[/QUOTE]Ethnicity, education, religion are the main driver for human behavior, just have a look how the women are considered in India or in many Muslim countries. Never forget that in Europe 90% of the people in jail have a Muslim background when they are only 5% of the population.

If anyone is thinking of visiting Sharks for the first time I would recommend you take the plunge now as it's a perfect time.

I went on Thursday & Friday for the last time this year & was surprised how few customers there were, especially on Thursday. During the daytime / evening the ladies were outnumbering the guys considerably & battling each other for customers.

Even Friday was not that busy with customers but as with Thursday there were loads of ladies, too many to count!

It was a memorable visit for me as I met Mandy for the first time, (just my type, delightful), reunited with Ena, Maria & Jennifer (who reminded me of every detail from our last encounter) Also had first time sessions with Lucy (brilliant) & a short haired, slim Romanian which was OK but nothing special. I even had an interesting chat with one of the locals who sits on the sofas near the entrance.

I have no plans to return until after the winter (although my plans often change! But I would seriously recommend first timers to visit now.

Note: It was surprising how many girls told me they are working over the Christmas period.

[QUOTE=Tedesco;2256030] A lot of people sneezing, shaking hands over three days and enjoying self-service at the buffet. Wearing suits and ties but also forgetting to use the basin after the use of the toilet. Thus it's not only a club related problem.[/QUOTE]We have a buffet chain here where none of the guests wear suits and ties (can't afford) , average weight of the guests is probably 250+ pounds for males and females pushing 175-200 pounds. It is called ' The Golden Corral'.

These are the poster folks for America's White Trash! None of them vash after using the restrooms just walk out, they sneeze and cough and go right back to the buffet, often use the same plate and don't get a clean one each visit, stick their hands in the servings and do not use the utensils. They are also too cheap to even leave a $1 tip ( per person) for the guys and girls who clean up and manicure their tables and refill their drinks ( these are often very hard working Mexicans trying to support their families and do have class) than these cheap people who can't leave a buck go home and vote for a guy who wants to close the borders to the very people who serve them so well.

Even at higher end buffets in Las Vegas I have seen poor hygienic behavior.

I actually think the cleanliest buffet attendees who actually clean up after themselves and follow buffet etiquettes are the girls in the FKK Clubs. They seem to eat gracefully like ladies, not pile their plates high (except for one in Darmstadt), clean up their dirty dishes, use utensils and so on. My only complaint is they do not sit like Anna and the other Gypsies while they eat with their legs spread wide and unfortunately they sit like ladies with their legs folded over each other as not to expose their privates...Very graceful and well behaved ladies.

Even if they do put ketchup on their pizzas. Weird. They are at least clean about it and it isn't that bad, I have tried it myself.

When I arrive at the FKK I take a full shower. After my first session of the day I take another full shower. After following sessions, if I'm not sweaty (i.e. its not a hot day) I enter the shower area and wash only my mid section front and back. I never use the face basin to wash my Johnson. I am somewhat grateful to those mongers who admit doing that to alert me as to the number of meanies who are like minded. I will certainly not be using those face basins again; male genitalia other than my own are unsavory to me.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2256210] I am somewhat grateful to those mongers who admit doing that to alert me as to the number of meanies who are like minded. I will certainly not be using those face basins again; male genitalia other than my own are unsavory to me.[/QUOTE]Today I have used the restrooms for Codeword#1 at a BBQ joint, a grocery store, Wal-Mart and Macy's (the cleanest).

Thanks to this thread after each Codeword#1 was finished I could not look at the basins and / or vash w / o thinking of some guy having previously used the basin to shave his balls, vash his junk or vash off the tip of his pecker after going Codeword#1.

I am starting to think maybe this comes down to German efficiency and time management. While Codeword#1'ing at Macy's I thought to myself what a friend once said ' if you don't touch anything why vash?'

So if in Sharks and all a guy does is open his towel up and proceed to Codeword#1 and gets a good shake at the end than what is the point of using the basin at all? Could this be what is in the ' Nein Vashers' minds? Perhaps this is why one sees many locals just Codeword#1 and leave?? Only thing one might touch is the handle to flush, that being said I am not sure if the toilets / stalls at Sharks or other FKKs have sensors or not when the guilty Codeword#1/ Codeword#2 club attendee gets up and vanishes to flush automatically.

I vashed anyway

[QUOTE=Canary;2256106]If anyone is thinking of visiting Sharks for the first time I would recommend you take the plunge now as it's a perfect time.

I went on Thursday & Friday for the last time this year & was surprised how few customers there were, especially on Thursday. During the daytime / evening the ladies were outnumbering the guys considerably & battling each other for customers.

Even Friday was not that busy with customers but as with Thursday there were loads of ladies, too many to count!

It was a memorable visit for me as I met Mandy for the first time, (just my type, delightful), reunited with Ena, Maria & Jennifer (who reminded me of every detail from our last encounter) Also had first time sessions with Lucy (brilliant) & a short haired, slim Romanian which was OK but nothing special. I even had an interesting chat with one of the locals who sits on the sofas near the entrance.

I have no plans to return until after the winter (although my plans often change! But I would seriously recommend first timers to visit now.

Note: It was surprising how many girls told me they are working over the Christmas period.[/QUOTE]To keep safe never believe what a girl is telling you, like every year a lot of girls will leave around the 15 to 23 December to return to Romania and coming back after the 15 of Jan.

First time in Germany, will be in Frankfurt for 4 days. Can't wait to try shark and some other fkks. Wish me luck!

BTW do you guys bring your own condoms? I prefer the ultra thins so I'm thinking to bring a couple with me.

[QUOTE=Skepti10;2256452]BTW do you guys bring your own condoms? I prefer the ultra thins so I'm thinking to bring a couple with me.[/QUOTE]I always bring my own condoms (micro-thins) for the kind of fit, performance, and durability that I like. Most of the girls are fine with that, but occasionally you will find a paranoid one who is afraid the guy might have tampered with his condoms, like poke holes in them in an attempt to get his sperm inside of the girls. Happens I guess, but I have an excellent track record of the girls going along with the condoms I want to use. And I would never do anything as despicable as try to impregnate a prostitute by tampering with my private stash of condoms. But apparently, some guys here and there would. I was with one girl who would not let me use mine because she said she caught a guy one time who had poked holes in a condom he wanted to use. Asshole has now ruined it for everybody else who now chooses to go with that girl who would like to use their own brand of condom.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2256531]I always bring my own condoms (micro-thins) for the kind of fit, performance, and durability that I like. Most of the girls are fine with that, but occasionally you will find a paranoid one who is afraid the guy might have tampered with his condoms, like poke holes in them in an attempt to get his sperm inside of the girls. Happens I guess, but I have an excellent track record of the girls going along with the condoms I want to use. And I would never do anything as despicable as try to impregnate a prostitute by tampering with my private stash of condoms. But apparently, some guys here and there would. I was with one girl who would not let me use mine because she said she caught a guy one time who had poked holes in a condom he wanted to use. Asshole has now ruined it for everybody else who now chooses to go with that girl who would like to use their own brand of condom.[/QUOTE]I always give the girl the condom in the packet for her to inspect if she wishes and open it. That should be standard practice. The loathsome creep who poked holes in the condom should have been reported to management and banned or worse. That is absolutely intolerable.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2256531]I always bring my own condoms (micro-thins) for the kind of fit, performance, and durability that I like. Most of the girls are fine with that, but occasionally you will find a paranoid one who is afraid the guy might have tampered with his condoms, like poke holes in them in an attempt to get his sperm inside of the girls. Happens I guess, but I have an excellent track record of the girls going along with the condoms I want to use. And I would never do anything as despicable as try to impregnate a prostitute by tampering with my private stash of condoms. But apparently, some guys here and there would. I was with one girl who would not let me use mine because she said she caught a guy one time who had poked holes in a condom he wanted to use. Asshole has now ruined it for everybody else who now chooses to go with that girl who would like to use their own brand of condom.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Just left shark, had 2 sessions and neither seemed to have an issue with it.

Since I'm currently suffering from a bit of jet lag, figured I would write down my first ever experience at an FKK and in fact my first time in Germany.

I flew from Asia to another European country, landing at the ungodly hour of 6 am. Then had a 3 hour wait until my train to Frankfurt left the station. Luckily I had chosen a hotel near the HBF so it was a quick walk once I got off the train in Frankfurt. Grabbed a quick burger and a shower and I was ready. I was half tempted to just checked out the RLD houses and take it easy for my first day but FKKs were literally the only reason I came to Germany so can't pussy out now! Used the DB app to buy my tickets and off I went at 15.25. I took the train from Frankfurt HBF to Darmstadt Nord. 8. 50 eur, super convenient and can just walk to Shark from the station (15 minutes). I reached the club around 4 pm.

Walked in, the receptionist was chatting to some regular I assume, so I just handed over my 65 eur and got a bracelet, robe, towel and shoes in return. A quick communal shower and I was ready to go. Into the club and I walked around the bar area trying to familiarize myself with the place. At this time there were way more guys than I expected, I'd guess the girl / guy ratio was 1. 2-1. 5/1. Not terribly great to be honest. In terms of clientele I was a bit surprised. I kind of expected to be one of the only Asians in the club but throughout the night I saw at least 7-8 East Asians (China, Hong Kong and Japan I'm guessing) and a few South Asians (Indians / Pakastanis / etc) as well. Anyway, I found an open seat at the bar next to a group of Chinese people speaking Mandarin. And here comes the girls.

What everyone says is true, these FKK girls are definitely approaching me if I give them the slightest bit of eye contact (sometimes even I give them no eye contact). A few of them have said this is because Asian guys tend to be more shy and not approach the girls? In any case, I was not one of these types, having had many, many sessions in Thailand, Philippines, Jakarta, Hong Kong, Macau, etc. Nonetheless I still made polite conversations with them and let them know at the earliest opportunity that I wasn't interested (in them). Most of them took it reasonably ok. Some of them were a bit aggressive though, almost felt liked getting "attacked" by ladyboys in Bangkok haha.

In terms of girl quality at 4 pm on a Sunday: based on my preferences (young, slim, pretty face) it was just okay. There were all types of girls around: blonde, brunette, natural, augmented, tattoo'd, etc. Saw an African looking one or two as well. Most looked mid-20's to early-30's in my eyes. Didn't see any 10/10's.

After sitting at the bar for maybe 5 minutes at this stage (and declining 3-4 girls already) I saw a super slim, darked hair girl walking towards me. I maintain eye contact for literally a second and she came over. [B]Zeynab[/B] was her name? Said she was half Turkish / half Romanian. Frankly her face wasn't exactly my type (a bit old looking and not really my type) but her body was petite and very tight with pinkish colored nipples so for the first time I actively engaged in conversation. After a few minutes we moved to a couch for a bit more conversation and some light fondling. A negative point, her skin didn't feel very smooth despite her saying she was still 22. Probably sign of a hard life. Anyway, she was being super GFE at this stage so I decided to go for it and suggested a 50 eur /30 min session. Didn't bother negotiating for BBBJ since it was my first shot. She agreed.

Into the room and on we go. Pretty lackluster CBJ & performance overall. She did try to upsell for CIM & to extend to an hour for another 50 eur but quickly accepted my refusal. And she kept trying to stop me going deep in doggie and missionary, very annoying. I guess GFE is only applicable for 100 eur sessions since she was quite starfishy. We finish and I give her her 50 eur at the small lockers.

The next few hours was quite boring to be honest. Spent drinking soft drinks / water at the bar, walking around trying to find a stunner, and gently / not-so-gently refusing advances from girls that were just not my type. I really wish phones were allowed in the club. I don't really remember many of the girls in between, one was a blonde with wavy hair. Cassandra? But that's about all I can remember.

At around 6 pm or so the dinner buffet came out and I see this very pretty faced girl go in with her friend. She looked young with straight blonde hair. A bit curvier than my usual type but my standards are gradually lowering. I walked up to her while she was at the buffet and asked her to find me after she finished dinner.

An hour or so goes past and I don't see her at all. I was about to give up but eventually did see her. Grabbed her and took her to the couches. Her name was [B]Candy[/B] and she said this was her 2nd week in Shark. She said she was 19 and Romanian. I don't know anything about European ethnicities but to me she didn't have the Romanian look, I would've guessed German? (apologies, I guess this is similar to white people saying Filipinos looks Japanese). Anyway her face was a 9/10 for me but her body was maybe 6/10. She was very quiet and didn't seem too interested. But after 3 hours in the club I didn't care. Agreed to 100 eur /30 min with BBBJ & CIM since I wanted to see her pretty face. To cut a long story short the session was again pretty average but her face was so pretty it was still worth it to me. It was also nice seeing her breasts bounce in missionary.

It's now 8 pm and I decide to head back to Frankfurt. Unfortunately I was too late to get the 8. 13 pm from Darmstadt Nord so had to pay 10 eur for a taxi to Darmstadt hbf instead. I'm not waiting 2 hours for the next train. Back in my hotel at about 9 pm and crash.

Cost.

Transport: 17 e (train ticket) + 10 e (taxi) = 27 e.

Entrance: 65 e.

Zeynab: 50 e.

Candy: 100 e.

Total: 242 EUR.

Overall opinion:

Pros.

- I really like the concept where the girls are fully / almost fully nude all the time, really lets you check them out (tattoos, silicone, etc).

- A good variety of body types, I'm sure most will find at least a few girls which are their types (except for super picky people like me I guess).

Cons.

- Holy crap cigarette smoke is everywhere. Definitely the biggest negative no question.

- Girls look a bit older than my usual type.

- Have to vet the girls strenuously if you have to have GFE.

Day 2 I'm thinking either World or Oase. World is further away but walkable from Garbenteich station. Oase is closer but am stuck paying an extra 20 e for taxis between friedrichsdorf station at the club. Any suggestions if I just want total stunners (young, slim, pretty face)? High GFE is nice to have, but optics is more important for me.

[QUOTE=Skepti10;2256856]The next few hours was quite boring to be honest.[/QUOTE]Finally someone admits it here.

Yesterday, Sunday, it was pretty boring there too. Lots of girls sitting at the bar yawning.

[QUOTE=Skepti10;2256856]Holy crap cigarette smoke is everywhere. Definitely the biggest negative no question.[/QUOTE]That's one of the signs of boredom there: the girls smoke like mad.

For those who were looking for Betty, she is back.

[QUOTE=Skepti10;2256856]Since I'm currently suffering from a bit of jet lag, figured I would write down my first ever experience at an FKK and in fact my first time in Germany.

I flew from Asia to another European country, landing at the ungodly hour of 6 am. Then had a 3 hour wait until my train to Frankfurt left the station. Luckily I had chosen a hotel near the HBF so it was a quick walk once I got off the train in Frankfurt. Grabbed a quick burger and a shower and I was ready. I was half tempted to just checked out the RLD houses and take it easy for my first day but FKKs were literally the only reason I came to Germany so can't pussy out now! Used the DB app to buy my tickets and off I went at 15.25. I took the train from Frankfurt HBF to Darmstadt Nord. 8. 50 eur, super convenient and can just walk to Shark from the station (15 minutes). I reached the club around 4 pm.

Walked in, the receptionist was chatting to some regular I assume, so I just handed over my 65 eur and got a bracelet, robe, towel and shoes in return. A quick communal shower and I was ready to go. Into the club and I walked around the bar area trying to familiarize myself with the place. At this time there were way more guys than I expected, I'd guess the girl / guy ratio was 1. 2-1. 5/1. Not terribly great to be honest. In terms of clientele I was a bit surprised. I kind of expected to be one of the only Asians in the club but throughout the night I saw at least 7-8 East Asians (China, Hong Kong and Japan I'm guessing) and a few South Asians (Indians / Pakastanis / etc) as well. Anyway, I found an open seat at the bar next to a group of Chinese people speaking Mandarin. And here comes the girls..[/QUOTE]If you are looking for fresh girls you are too late, very few newcomers only veteran girls around switching from 1 club to another or from dubai to dublin and madrid, real prostitutes willing to suck your cash.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2256975]

For those who were looking for Betty, she is back.[/QUOTE]Good News. Actually I'm not sure, last time I visit Frankfurt. Early November- I didn't see her. And I didn't find any good replacement.

Now she is back. And I will not visit until mid January, I just hope she will be there.

[QUOTE=Skepti10;2256856]Since I'm currently suffering from a bit of jet lag, figured I would write down my first ever experience at an FKK and in fact my first time in Germany.

I flew from Asia to another European country, landing at the ungodly hour of 6 am. Then had a 3 hour wait until my train to Frankfurt left the station. Luckily I had chosen a hotel near the HBF so it was a quick walk once I got off the train in Frankfurt. Grabbed a quick burger and a shower and I was ready. I was half tempted to just checked out the RLD houses and take it easy for my first day but FKKs were literally the only reason I came to Germany so can't pussy out now! Used the DB app to buy my tickets and off I went at 15.25. I took the train from Frankfurt HBF to Darmstadt Nord. 8. 50 eur, super convenient and can just walk to Shark from the station (15 minutes). I reached the club around 4 pm.

Walked in, the receptionist was chatting to some regular I assume, so I just handed over my 65 eur and got a bracelet, robe, towel and shoes in return. A quick communal shower and I was ready to go. Into the club and I walked around the bar area trying to familiarize myself with the place. At this time there were way more guys than I expected, I'd guess the girl / guy ratio was 1. 2-1. 5/1. Not terribly great to be honest. In terms of clientele I was a bit surprised. I kind of expected to be one of the only Asians in the club but throughout the night I saw at least 7-8 East Asians (China, Hong Kong and Japan I'm guessing) and a few South Asians (Indians / Pakastanis / etc) as well. Anyway, I found an open seat at the bar next to a group of Chinese people speaking Mandarin. And here comes the girls..[/QUOTE]Everyone's taste is different. For Asian, you will more likely to find someone you like in Oase, Shark then World. You can walk from Friedrichsdolf station to Oase for about 40-45 min. Just use google map, it will lead you to some country side and end up at the back of Oase.

[QUOTE=Skepti10;2256856]
Day 2 I'm thinking either World or Oase. World is further away but walkable from Garbenteich station. Oase is closer but am stuck paying an extra 20 e for taxis between friedrichsdorf station at the club. Any suggestions if I just want total stunners (young, slim, pretty face)? High GFE is nice to have, but optics is more important for me.[/QUOTE]Go to Oase. The LU last week was significantly better than Sharks. And I too like young, slim atheletic types. None really at Sharks now. Oase had several last week.

[QUOTE=Skepti10;2256856]Day 2 I'm thinking either World or Oase. World is further away but walkable from Garbenteich station. Oase is closer but am stuck paying an extra 20 e for taxis between friedrichsdorf station at the club. Any suggestions if I just want total stunners (young, slim, pretty face)? High GFE is nice to have, but optics is more important for me.[/QUOTE]Unless you have very bad time on your hands, you can always walk from Seulberg. It is 30 minutes, but not too bad if you have the time.

Thanks for the info everyone. Ended up going to Oase. Will write the report in that thread in the next day or so.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2256975]For those who were looking for Betty, she is back.[/QUOTE]Face very pretty, but I decline her session. Alas she gain some kilo during break and cellulite to butt.

Hi all,

Always a pleasure to read posts and assess what FKK to visit on my way through Frankfurt and what traps to watch out for! Thanks for that!

I'm up for my 4th visit overall, done 2 oase, 1 sharks and tomorrow another sharks targeted. I hope for a first time to actually use the sauna too and as with Oase's 2nd visit, find some familiar faces.

I actually managed to bring my colleague into this very special world. Let's see if he survives with my tips to avoid traps, but most importantly find the right girls.

Due to our schedule, [B]we'll be in the club quite early tomorrow December 6th. I'm wondering if someone else will join in the afternoon[/B] as it would be great to meet fellow mongers and share experiences? Who is in for the hunt?!

I had time to make a short detour to Darmstadt. I enjoyed the food and some to relax and enjoy the many beautiful girls. I was often approached but I was looking for Elif and Amalia. Unfortunately I did not see them, although I thought they were back from vacation. Does anyone know when they will come back? I had in the episode but 3 great sessions with girls whose name I unfortunately forgot. I left the club that evening with a very good feeling and will come back as soon as I can. It is a horny club.

[QUOTE=Hugo100;2258036]I had time to make a short detour to Darmstadt. I enjoyed the food and some to relax and enjoy the many beautiful girls. I was often approached but I was looking for Elif and Amalia. Unfortunately I did not see them, although I thought they were back from vacation. Does anyone know when they will come back? I had in the episode but 3 great sessions with girls whose name I unfortunately forgot. I left the club that evening with a very good feeling and will come back as soon as I can. It is a horny club.[/QUOTE]Elif and Amalia were working on last Friday, but not together. Elif is chesnut, Amalia light blond.

Many girls, quite slow business between 8 pm and 10.30 pm. Even Mandy who is prettier with her new, more sophisticated face look with longer hair, seemed available around 8 pm. She left quite early as usual.

The prettiest was for me: Tia. De, but saying not kissing, so even smiling, no room. Leoni. De came smiling proposing 1 h for 100 with kissing, maybe she was told about white wolf, but I m not sure we think about same kissing and love in bed, in German or French, so even smiling, but no spark on this time.

Girls seen: first, for my only German friend in FKK land, your beloved. Also ex Elektra, small Eleanor, blond Jenifer with tired face, Viorica not busy on bar and seemed she lost her freshness for look when she was smiling, Elen with real lack of care for face and hair, Keira with tired face, Brenda but her tits seem less full, Karin, blond Patricia now silicon, Roxy, Inca, Melani, ex Bea who couldn't get business at LR or GT, she doesn't seem so busy also.

Had great welcome from Melina. De ex GT ex Samya, my friend Luci. De ex GT ex YY, come back to GT Luci, to smile to me, don t go to gloomy Hamburg even it s your home. She didn't want to stay for Sharks business and atmosphere, even only started on Thursday. Lovely Debi of course, and what a welcome from lovely Cleo. When most of girls just bullshit and so easy to understand when You see their level, but on this time, I can confirm Cleo really worked at Globe, she was my first Globe girl on 18 June 2016 , when I went for Katalina but didn t know how work Globe. Katalina was not on tour. I saw a blond with natural tits dancing on pole podium, she was the best dancer at Globe, she smiled to me, she noticed I was looking at her, I love real dancers not booty shaking, she came straight to me after her song, she was a so sweet GF for love in bed for 1 hour for 280 CHF at Globe. Only reason I never repeated was Katalina and Isabella. Cleo was so lovely on this Friday, like on each of my visits. If You want to taste what is really Globe excellence, of course prettier girls there, but for love in bed, treat her to get from a woman and You will experience what is really Globe. I really enjoyed her when she was full natural. I wish my advises will help her. Her level deserve a better business. I m sure she would have given me her best.

No Svenja seen, maybe trying Globe? But she is not Cleo for woman sensuality. No Rebeka.

A bit sad to see girls waiting for business, it was even like they didn't anymore believe they could get, at only 8/9 pm, on a Friday, when parking was full.

No wow, no spark for me, so even tired, I didn't know yet why, but moved to far higher level for me, Palace and as soon I arrived I saw my wow girl at the new bar, and felt desire I wanted her, no matter of money. Great choice, passionate first Christmas present.

[QUOTE=Hugo100;2258036]... I was looking for Elif and Amalia. Unfortunately I did not see them, although I thought they were back from vacation. Does anyone know when they will come back?.[/QUOTE]Sexy blonde Amalia with smooth skin is back this week at Shark, I speak with her.

For my last Frankfurt day I decided to visit Shark again. This time I skipped lunch and got to Shark at 2 pm (by way of train & walk again). Quickly grabbed some breakfast meats and juice, wolfing it down. For this session I decided to explore a bit more than just staying at the bar and being bored. I checked out the upstairs Jacuzzi and the sauna in the corner. But before all of that, I needed to grab a girl. That girl was Mina.

Mina is a young (Romanian?) slim girl with dark hair, green eyes and dimples. I'd rate her face at a 8/10 and her body 8. 5/10. She was friendly and easy to talk to. Didn't feel like I was rushed into a sale. But after a few minutes I steered the topic of conversation to the room anyway. I wanted 30 minutes, BBBJ, covered sex and anal. Unfortunately, she said she doesn't do anal! Wasn't able to convince her otherwise, I pivoted to 60 minutes, BBBJ and covered sex for 100 eur. Mina seemed quite happy with that number and off we went.

Into the room and we continue to chat / laugh. She has an excellent BJ but mentioned she does not CIM (although COF is okay for some reason). Had to stop her on 2 occasions otherwise I definitely would've CIM'd. Moving onto sex we did missionary, cowgirl, prone bone and doggie. Then we ended on BBBJ again but without a finish (through no fault of Mina). Overall I think this was the best FKK session I've had so far in terms of attitude and chemistry. Would definitely be willing to repeat, if I wasn't leaving the next day.

Next I went to the sauna. Now, I'd been to plenty of saunas in Asia so I figured this'll be the exact same thing. Then I saw this random guy steaming up the room and waving towels around. I guess this was an employee of the club or something and after he did his thing the whole sauna clapped. (as thanks for his service?

After that (and after a much needed shower) I decided to head up the stairs and relaxed in one of the more private cabanas. Here I was able to play on my phone a bit. Shark doesn't offer any wifi services, but unlike Oase I was able to have 4 g connections throughout the facilities. So here I was just hiding away and suddenly a tall dark brunette introduced herself as Vanessa.

The area I was in was quite dark, so at first I couldn't tell much about her. I knew she was taller and not as petite as I usually liked, but her face was pretty enough. 8/10 face & 7. 5/10 body. I tried to I just wanted to relax and rest for a bit, but seeing as I didn't finish with Mina my body betrayed me very quickly (the cialis also didn't help! And since she was offering 30 min BBBJ, covered sex and anal for 150 eur I was quite willing to accept her as my second session of the day.

Into the room and she gave another very reasonable BJ. Jumped on CG for a few minutes then quickly moved to anal CG then anal missionary. But after only a quick few minutes she started complaining of pain. I think next time I'll have to specify a long anal session into negotiations since I just paid 100 eur for less than 5 minutes of anal. Anyway, we changed condoms and I finished up in doggie.

It's now 6 pm and I decided to have some dinner. Chatted to a nice Asian American gentlemen who was here for the first time and let him know about the direct train from Darmstadt Nord to Frankfurt hbf.

After dinner I went to the upstairs Jacuzzi to relax some more but the cigarette smell from downstairs really was everywhere. Another dark haired Romanian chatted me up, trying to convince me for another session but I knew from experience a third session was almost guaranteed to end poorly so unfortunately I had to decline. This girl had the slim petite figure that I liked but her face wasn't my type. Not sure what her name was.

Throughout my stay here I saw both my previous girls, Zeynab and Candy. Both of which came up at some point trying for a repeat which I declined. I could've been tempted into a 30 min anal session with both but unfortunately the timing was never right.

And the rest of the night was like that as well, just trying to relax and fending off the girls. Had another quick dinner and left with the fella I was talking to at the first dinner since he was staying near frankfurt too. Left at 8 pm and split the taxi to Darmstadt Nord station.

Cost.

Transport: 16.55 e (return train ticket) + 5 e (taxi fair, shared) = 21.55 e.

Entrance: 50 e (Wednesday discount).

Mina: 100 e.

Vanessa: 150 e.

Total: 321.55 e.

Overall opinion:

Pros.

- There were way more girls in the club today, with overall quality notably higher than Sunday.

Cons.

- Cigarette smoke is still a huge issue for me. I already had a cough these few days and the atmosphere definitely made things worse (this is why none of my sessions mentioned DFK, as I didn't want to get any of the girls sick).

Now I'm off to the NRW area for the next few days to try Samya & Living Room. I love my vacation!

[QUOTE=Hugo100;2258036]I had time to make a short detour to Darmstadt. I enjoyed the food and some to relax and enjoy the many beautiful girls. I was often approached but I was looking for Elif and Amalia. Unfortunately I did not see them, although I thought they were back from vacation. Does anyone know when they will come back? I had in the episode but 3 great sessions with girls whose name I unfortunately forgot. I left the club that evening with a very good feeling and will come back as soon as I can. It is a horny club.[/QUOTE]I recently concluded my trip and visited Sharks 5 days consecutively, I think I saw both of at least 3 out of the 5 days. Had 3 sessions with Amalia (who is a sweetheart). I think you might've just missed them because it was their off night.

[QUOTE=Skepti10;2258266]For my last Frankfurt day I decided to visit Shark again. This time I skipped lunch and got to Shark at 2 pm (by way of train & walk again). Quickly grabbed some breakfast meats and juice, wolfing it down. For this session I decided to explore a bit more than just staying at the bar and being bored. I checked out the upstairs Jacuzzi and the sauna in the corner. But before all of that, I needed to grab a girl. That girl was Mina.

Mina is a young (Romanian?) slim girl with dark hair, green eyes and dimples. I'd rate her face at a 8/10 and her body 8. 5/10. She was friendly and easy to talk to. Didn't feel like I was rushed into a sale. But after a few minutes I steered the topic of conversation to the room anyway. I wanted 30 minutes, BBBJ, covered sex and anal. Unfortunately, she said she doesn't do anal! Wasn't able to convince her otherwise, I pivoted to 60 minutes, BBBJ and covered sex for 100 eur. Mina seemed quite happy with that number and off we went..[/QUOTE]Sunday is a nightmare in all the big FKK, many girls don t want to get fucked for 50 euros by guys who are not eating pork.

I have visited Sharks before but it was only for an hour during the night and I had bad impression because of the smoke and because it was too crowded so I left without a session. I promised myself to give it a second try so this was the time.

I was there on a Wednesday afternoon and stayed until 5 pm.

L / U.

The line up was on a very satisfactory level. You could actually find whatever you liked, blonde, brunette, slim, fat, white, black everything. I think there must have been more than 50 ladies and most of them were very good looking. I assume it even improves during the night. I find the line up better than other clubs I have visited.

Facilities.

I like the club because it is huge with a wonderful outside area and the internal decor is very cool. You can move around the club and don't get bored. The two Jacuzzi on the top floor are cool and the water was nice and warm. Food was very good all least the brunch and some fruits and sweets I tried, Better than Manhattan and just one level higher than palace. Sauna was OK and I also tried the Thai masseur which was very good, worth every euro. The smoke was not an issue for me and maybe this is because the very high ceiling and the size of the club.

Sessions.

First session was just 5 minutes after I entered with a 23 yo RO called Rebecca. Blonde and naughty look she started with a very good BBBJ and ended fucking hard in various positions before taking it all in mouth. I would take her again no problem.

Second session was with a beautiful blonde lady that claimed to be Italian and her name was Francesca. I am not sure if she was Italian or not but she talked a lot of Italian to me, which I don't know if it was Italian or Romanian but who cares at the end of the day LOL.

She started with a wonderful BBBJ and then she told me 'Oh baby I want this dick in my ass'. That was it! In one minute I was banging hard her ass and continued doing this for 30 minutes in various positions. I loved her ass so much that I forgot she also has a pussy LOL. At the end she also received a lovely CIM. This girl was unique, not only she was the first I took in the ass in a FKK without even asking, but she also never asked my name or where do I come from. The fuck was in an igloo near the jacuzzi, small cool rooms.

After that I decided to relax in the jacuzzi but a girl approached me and she asked me if the water is nice. I told her to get in and tty and she got on top of my stroking me dick for another 30 minutes before taking her in the room for a 3rd round. Not anything special and I don't even remember her name.

Other.

I noticed there were many older men which was nice to see. In my country elder men usually go to coffee shops and spend their day talking about politics and other bullshit. In Germany they go to fuck young teens so respect to these people, I wish I will do the same in their age.

I saw many expensive cars larked outside and a black rolls Royce that probably belonged to an Asian guy I saw inside smoking expensive cigars all the time harks.

There was one brunette lady with top style and amazing tits walking around like a diva. I didn't talk to her because she was always busy talking with other men but she definitely was something different from the majority.

I saw some girls coming from Palace to Sharks. After I was told that there is a number of 15-20 girls that keep moving between 3 clubs in FRA area.

Conclusion.

I think that Sharks is just top level compared to other clubs I have visited. I have not visited Oase or World yet but compared to Artemis, Palace and Manhattan it is much better in line up and facilities. The inside vibe is just better. It is like comparing a 5 star hotel with a 4 star. I don't have a clear view about upsell or not I have to go 1-2 more times again. I think the time I visited was good if I ever visit again it will be the same time.

[QUOTE=Skepti10;2258266]For my last Frankfurt day I decided to visit Shark again. This time I skipped lunch and got to Shark at 2 pm (by way of train & walk again). Quickly grabbed some breakfast meats and juice, wolfing it down. For this session I decided to explore a bit more than just staying at the bar and being bored. I checked out the upstairs Jacuzzi and the sauna in the corner. But before all of that, I needed to grab a girl. That girl was Mina.

Mina is a young (Romanian?) slim girl with dark hair, green eyes and dimples. I'd rate her face at a 8/10 and her body 8. 5/10. She was friendly and easy to talk to. Didn't feel like I was rushed into a sale. But after a few minutes I steered the topic of conversation to the room anyway. I wanted 30 minutes, BBBJ, covered sex and anal. Unfortunately, she said she doesn't do anal! Wasn't able to convince her otherwise, I pivoted to 60 minutes, BBBJ and covered sex for 100 eur. Mina seemed quite happy with that number and off we went.

Into the room and we continue to chat / laugh. She has an excellent BJ but mentioned she does not CIM (although COF is okay for some reason).[/QUOTE]The guy who waived the towels is Sauna Master. There is note by the main Sauna room with different time. I believe that every hour on the hour, from maybe 6 pm, this guy will come to perform this Sauna Master thing. He normally has belt with him. I really enjoy it though it is very hot there. BTW Sauna in Asia is totally different than Sauna in Europe.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2258822]I have visited Sharks before but it was only for an hour during the night and I had bad impression because of the smoke and because it was too crowded so I left without a session. I promised myself to give it a second try so this was the time.

I was there on a Wednesday afternoon and stayed until 5 pm.

...if I ever visit again it will be the same time.[/QUOTE]How much did you pay for anal and com with the Italian Francesca? How long was the session. That sounds like my kind of girl, I have issues finding girls that can take me for anal because I'm a bit thick which makes it painful for inexperienced girls even if I don't go deep.

Good report. I'll be back in the western land of smiles next week after a year and half so very curious to see how things go for me.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2258822]I have visited Sharks before but it was only for an hour during the night and I had bad impression because of the smoke and because it was too crowded so I left without a session. I promised myself to give it a second try so this was the time.

I was there on a Wednesday afternoon and stayed until 5 pm.

L / U.

The line up was on a very satisfactory level. You could actually find whatever you liked, blonde, brunette, slim, fat, white, black everything. I think there must have been more than 50 ladies and most of them were very good looking. I assume it even improves during the night. I find the line up better than other clubs I have visited..[/QUOTE]Yes, you have quantity at Sharks, unfortunately I didn't notice on last Friday, your brunette diva, I love divas and princesses, for a prince. Only Tia was really desirable for me, smiling welcoming but her no kissing was a killing desire, I was nearly to cry not to touch such milky skin with angel smile. No other wow girls seen, no tall blond Romanian Francesca nor Romanian Stefi, only Romanian Elen with average look for face. I prefer to find only 1 but real wow girl, even very / too expensive, at higher level Palace.

About all bullshits said in this business, I heard about a real fight on Sunday 2 December night, between Hells angels and 1 Albanian, where is Sharks security? Poor girls with such clients, when it was really slow business on previous Friday evening. If he is in the law, I would have called Polizei to complain and get money from complaint.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2258822]Second session was with a beautiful blonde lady that claimed to be Italian and her name was Francesca. I am not sure if she was Italian or not but she talked a lot of Italian to me, which I don't know if it was Italian or Romanian but who cares at the end of the day LOL.

She started with a wonderful BBBJ and then she told me 'Oh baby I want this dick in my ass'. That was it! In one minute I was banging hard her ass and continued doing this for 30 minutes in various positions. I loved her ass so much that I forgot she also has a pussy LOL. At the end she also received a lovely CIM. This girl was unique, not only she was the first I took in the ass in a FKK without even asking, but she also never asked my name or where do I come from. [/QUOTE]Unique? No, she's a real professional who doesn't give a fuck where you are from, and the "oh baby, I want your dick in my ass" line is her standard line for upselling. It would have been unique if she hadn't charged you extra for the anal, hahaha! LOL!

Having said that, she uses that "I want your dick in my ass" line quite skilfully as a non-aggressive upsell which seamlessly fits into the overall PSE. IMHO, Francesca's looks have diminished a lot over the last 12 months or so. She is not as curvy anymore, gained some weight and that fake blonde hair makes her face look pale and unhealthy. I prefer Francesca's friend, Steffi, who she always hangs out with at the bar. Steffi is the chick with the towel wrapped around her.

BTW, as you guessed, Francesca (as well as Steffi) are about as Italian as the average male visitor is from Jupiter.

[QUOTE=Sedition;2258885]How much did you pay for anal and com with the Italian Francesca? How long was the session. That sounds like my kind of girl, I have issues finding girls that can take me for anal because I'm a bit thick which makes it painful for inexperienced girls even if I don't go deep.

Good report. I'll be back in the western land of smiles next week after a year and half so very curious to see how things go for me.[/QUOTE]I must have been with her maybe 40-50 min and paid 250. I know I could save at least 50 but I considered that as a tip / present because she was nice. I am thick as well and this was the reason she wanted it deep in the ass, she was enjoying it. If you find her I am sure you will enjoy her.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2258976]no tall blond Romanian Francesca .[/QUOTE]My Italian Francesca anal fuck was also tall and blonde LOL Maybe she is half half but who really cares.

Regarding the fight I always stay away from Albanians either men either prostitutes, the worst experience I had in a club was with an Albanian in Artemis.

The brunette diva was short, straight hair angel naughty face and incredible tits looking at the stars. But it was mainly the way she was moving around.

[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2259048]Unique? No, she's a real professional who doesn't give a fuck where you are from, and the "oh baby, I want your dick in my ass" line is her standard line for upselling. It would have been unique if she hadn't charged you extra for the anal, hahaha! LOL!

Having said that, she uses that "I want your dick in my ass" line quite skilfully as a non-aggressive upsell which seamlessly fits into the overall PSE. IMHO, Francesca's looks have diminished a lot over the last 12 months or so. She is not as curvy anymore, gained some weight and that fake blonde hair makes her face look pale and unhealthy. I prefer Francesca's friend, Steffi, who she always hangs out with at the bar. Steffi is the chick with the towel wrapped around her.

BTW, as you guessed, Francesca (as well as Steffi) are about as Italian as the average male visitor is from Jupiter.[/QUOTE]I know all this man, I knew that she was trying to upsell and she also asked for a present at the end, of course I denied. I also knew that she wasn't Italian, that is why I said 'she claimed'. Every RO that speaks a little bit of Italian wants to give us the illusion we are fucking Monica Belucci LOL.

But I had fun and that is the most important and I also knew form the beginning the budget for this. By unique I didn't mean that she was special but unique not to ask about details but go straight to ass fucking, next time I will fuck her and her friend Steffi in a threesome and tell you more details LOL.

She is not curvy any more? She looked fine to me but of course different taste.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2259165]My Italian Francesca anal fuck was also tall and blonde LOL Maybe she is half half but who really cares.

Regarding the fight I always stay away from Albanians either men either prostitutes, the worst experience I had in a club was with an Albanian in Artemis.

The brunette diva was short, straight hair angel naughty face and incredible tits looking at the stars. But it was mainly the way she was moving around.[/QUOTE]Everybody know your tall blond Francesca is 110% Romanian, but not important. My most numerous rooms girl at Sharks, was a Romanian model type now at Globe. I discovered Globe because I followed a Romanian from deep Moldavian part, who made me dream at Sharks.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2259161]I am thick as well and this was the reason she wanted it deep in the ass, she was enjoying it. If you find her I am sure you will enjoy her.[/QUOTE]Actually I think the reason she wanted it was to make 100 euros more. Two extras for less than one hour=good bargain for the girl.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2259228]Actually I think the reason she wanted it was to make 100 euros more. Two extras for less than one hour=good bargain for the girl.[/QUOTE]I have no doubt about that but when I asked for an hour, CIM I knew from before it would be 150 at least. The ass thing added another 100 . Of course I could get 50 back because I didn't try her pussy LOL.

At the end of the day I don't care that much since I had fun and she was the first that gave me her ass in my short FKK life.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2259222]Everybody know your tall blond Francesca is 110% Romanian, but not important. My most numerous rooms girl at Sharks, was a Romanian model type now at Globe. I discovered Globe because I followed a Romanian from deep Moldavian part, who made me dream at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Yes Siri as you said it is not important to me. I don't think that if she really was Italian I would enjoy more her ass LOL.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2259161]I must have been with her maybe 40-50 min and paid 250. I know I could save at least 50 but I considered that as a tip / present because she was nice. I am thick as well and this was the reason she wanted it deep in the ass, she was enjoying it. If you find her I am sure you will enjoy her.[/QUOTE]Palace with few wow girls seen like Julia, Venezuelan, blond with poney tall, angel face with full tattoed back and also a long dark hair, can be cheap compare to her. 250 for 45 mn, You should have kept on enjoying for full hour. But You are right, she is unique for You, because when she is waiting at the bar, she never told to white wolf: I want your dick in my ass. I don t know why? Girls never propose to white wolf little horse to fuck them in the ass. Only my German escort did on our discovery which was in a club, I was informed about her by a guy who paid me and a German girl to watch my foreplay at GT, anal was only 50 where I discovered her, I tried for nearly 30 mn, opening her with fingers, until 3 deep inside, but couldn't enter deeper than her anal ring, so we gave up, and kept on in her unbreakable pussy. Only when she was too exhausted, she closed her pussy, and had to open her with fingers. She didn't ask any money for anal try. Not for this, but she was very unique for me, even tall with athletic body, but such a fragile beauty, always asking for love, even when she was exhausted, she asked to come again inside of her, just to stay like this, to rest and recover like this, but her muscles put me out, so had to enter again. A dreamed girl, made for love. I liked when she sent messages to her pimp manager: she felt sick, to cancel appointments after, keeping on smiling, kissing, eating, before she said: now I want to go to party with my girlfriend. For about 2 months, pimp manager became mad.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2259364]I have no doubt about that but when I asked for an hour, CIM I knew from before it would be 150 at least. The ass thing added another 100 . Of course I could get 50 back because I didn't try her pussy LOL.

At the end of the day I don't care that much since I had fun and she was the first that gave me her ass in my short FKK life.[/QUOTE]You were right to enjoy, furthermore if she was your first anal girl, it's your money, and life can be short. Good business for her, in slow Sharks business with some everything for only 50, and she is most of time not so busy.

I'm in town this week at Frankfurt for Thursday through Saturday but unfortunately not in Frankfurt long enough Saturday to enjoy the superb Saturday lineup.

Should I aim for Thursday or Friday? I wanted to go one day sharks and one day palace for a bunch of stunner fucks which I found before was more possible in palace. I also noticed palace had more variety in nationalities IMO and girls willing to do anal.

Thoughts? I think Thursdays still are like Friday's though I assume Friday's are still better due to weekend crowd and more girls.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2259480]Palace with few wow girls seen like Julia, Venezuelan, blond with poney tall, angel face with full tattoed back .............[/QUOTE]Sirioja, good to see you're expanding your horizons with Latina. Be careful, you may want to visit South America and when there may not want to return.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2259809]Sirioja, good to see you're expanding your horizons with Latina. Be careful, you may want to visit South America and when there may not want to return.[/QUOTE]No risk, I don't like Latina types and hate their fake moaning. She looks like Russian type and no moaning, but she said I'm crazy in bed, when so quiet in lounge, because I didn't touch her before entering the room, but in bed, I touched her everywhere, to make her react. Big smiles after room, I'm sure she will welcome me. I love wow woman Caucasian types.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2259809]Sirioja, good to see you're expanding your horizons with Latina. Be careful, you may want to visit South America and when there may not want to return.[/QUOTE]Or Barcelona. Cheap European center for every nationality related to South America Central America and Europe.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2259878]No risk, I don't like Latina types and hate their fake moaning. She looks like Russian type and no moaning, but she said I'm crazy in bed, when so quiet in lounge, because I didn't touch her before entering the room, but in bed, I touched her everywhere, to make her react. Big smiles after room, I'm sure she will welcome me. I love wow woman Caucasian types.[/QUOTE]That Venezuelan girl looked nice indeed. She was something like between Russian and Spanish look to me and had nice eyes. I also remember she approached me very polite and nice unlike others 'Hi baby let's fuck' type.

[QUOTE=Sedition;2259920]Or Barcelona. Cheap European center for every nationality related to South America Central America and Europe.[/QUOTE]I love Barcelona, magic city, but not for prostitution for me, because for my tastes for bed, Spain is great for foods, sea, sun, but can't compete for me with FKK land, even Slovenian Marina club where I made super sexy Mila. Ro became my woman in bed for 1 h30 on first room, when she seemed used to fast rooms, with tears in her eyes at the end, when I told her: you see, you are able to be a woman for love. I will keep her answer private.

Barcelona is Gaudi, Sagrada Familia, remblas. Amazing.

[QUOTE=Sedition;2259745]I'm in town this week at Frankfurt for Thursday through Saturday but unfortunately not in Frankfurt long enough Saturday to enjoy the superb Saturday lineup.

Should I aim for Thursday or Friday? I wanted to go one day sharks and one day palace for a bunch of stunner fucks which I found before was more possible in palace. I also noticed palace had more variety in nationalities IMO and girls willing to do anal.

Thoughts? I think Thursdays still are like Friday's though I assume Friday's are still better due to weekend crowd and more girls.[/QUOTE]Some girls take a break on Thursday, because they can make enough money on Wednesday and the weekend. So Friday will be better.

This Friday (and Sunday) there is a Christmasparty at Sharks. This means many girls and many men.

[QUOTE=Mechelen;2260089]
This Friday (and Sunday) there is a Christmasparty at Sharks. This means many girls and many men.[/QUOTE]The entrance will still be 65 €?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2259878]No risk, I don't like Latina types and hate their fake moaning..................[/QUOTE]Its not fake like Asians, its real. When I hear "RRRICO!" I bang like there's no tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Mechelen;2260089]Some girls take a break on Thursday, because they can make enough money on Wednesday and the weekend. So Friday will be better.

This Friday (and Sunday) there is a Christmasparty at Sharks. This means many girls and many men.[/QUOTE]Sold for sharks on Friday. I need to figure out if I go sharks Thursday too or Palace on Thursday then.

[QUOTE=GuyFromParis;2260194]The entrance will still be 65 ?[/QUOTE]Yes. On Sunday it is 50 before 2 pm.

[QUOTE=Mechelen;2260089]Some girls take a break on Thursday, because they can make enough money on Wednesday and the weekend. So Friday will be better.

This Friday (and Sunday) there is a Christmasparty at Sharks. This means many girls and many men.[/QUOTE]Parties are not the best time to get great time with the girls.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2260199]Its not fake like Asians, its real. When I hear "RRRICO!" I bang like there's no tomorrow.[/QUOTE]They moan as fake as pornstars. Chinese girls make like little birds noises.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2260361]They moan as fake as pornstars. Chinese girls make like little birds noises.[/QUOTE]And where can we find those Chinese girls who 'make little birds noises'? At Sharks?

[QUOTE=KingOfBongo;2260662]And where can we find those Chinese girls who 'make little birds noises'? At Sharks?[/QUOTE]I am living for more than 15 years in China and I can tell that it is quite impossible to find a Chinese girl in the clubs or brothels in Germany or in Europe, just they don t need any more to be a prostitutes so many wealthy man ready to spend money for them.

[QUOTE=KingOfBongo;2260662]And where can we find those Chinese girls who 'make little birds noises'? At Sharks?[/QUOTE]She was escort in Paris, really pretty, very white skin, but making like cui cui.

On my last visit, I saw a dark skin Asian, quite pretty face, she was staying close to the pole close to ex kino.

Highlights: 1 excellent room, failed introduction to first timer, fun.

Good visit.

Arrived at around 7 pm with a friend visiting from London.

He unfortunately found the experience to be overbearing and maybe FKKs are just not his thing. A rather negative guy who just wouldn't even try or open up, despite admitting that he had never seen anything like it. Possibly something to consider for other first timers, that maybe Sharks can be a bit too much for some people.

I on my side met up with another friend (also his first time) as well so the three of us trailed through the club until 4 am.

Lots of girls, plenty of new faces so the club was still quite alive for a mid-December night.

Found my number with Veronika, a tall slinky blonde Romanian with short hair and tattoos, claiming the age of 21, who gave a great introduction and an exceptional service in exchange for a small tip if I enjoyed it. Made her extras contingent on whether she "likes" the person. Consequently she provided a full GFE and a killer room that left me more than satisfied. A nymphomaniac who admittedly likes to be dominated and dirty talk. Full eye contact throughout the BJ and DFK. Took her time throughout and afterwards, flexible and willing to please. Missionary and doggy style finish through which she shifted her legs to provide strong body contact. Beautiful.

(Friend's room: Roxana, short young blonde for 1 hour session including all his extras. He also reported an excellent service: DFK, DATY.).

I made the right decision which lifted the curse and spectre of my last horrible session at Oase.

In summary: a good visit, upselling is there as usual but there are options past it as usual. 100 e 1 hour rooms should dispel most of this problem if you're willing.

L-U was good and included a number of new additions, 1 girl from Palace and 1 from 5th element. 1 cute slim African girl claiming to be from Cape Town. I should have taken a room earlier and gone for two in total but whatever.

[QUOTE=Lanthano;2260783]Highlights: 1 excellent room, failed introduction to first timer, fun.

Good visit. but whatever.[/QUOTE]Lanthano will you be at sharks today or tomorrow? I'll be there likely both days from early 11 through to 4 am.

Would love to meet up with you and any others in town to exchange stories and enjoy time with fellow mongers.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2260361]They moan as fake as pornstars. Chinese girls make like little birds noises.[/QUOTE]I would appreciate to find there one not shaved as I know it from Shanghai, Beijing and some years ago from other Chinese women working in Frankfurt aprtments e. g. Asialadies in Adalbertstrasse 7 a. Unfortunately all Chinese women meanwhile share the complete shaved style in the Y.

[QUOTE=Tedesco;2260863]I would appreciate to find there one not shaved as I know it from Shanghai, Beijing and some years ago from other Chinese women working in Frankfurt aprtments e. g. Asialadies in Adalbertstrasse 7 a. Unfortunately all Chinese women meanwhile share the complete shaved style in the Y.[/QUOTE]Just go to China you will find 99 percent of the girls not shaved.

Some girls will leave after the Christmas party on this weekend, others will leave next week after Wednesday. So, be prepared that the line-up soon will thin out significantly.

Are there many new German additions in the line up at this club? I don't seem to see that many reviews or discussion about the Germans. I wonder if anyone has any experience with any of them. I guess upselling is pretty much wide spread among the DE providers.

Mostly my experiences with German girls are bad, first of all I am speaking with them in German therefor very easy to understand how most of them have some mental issues, addictions or are simply stupid nevertheless a mood killer, intelligent and pretty German girls don t need to get fucked 10 times or more every day in a FKK club by everyone to earn money so many better opportunities in Germany. Pussy are pussy no matter from Germany, Hungary, Romania, 90% of the girls in the clubs are from Romanian which is not a problem at all. All others considerations are fantasy which is the most powerful Viagra.

[QUOTE=SinglePro;2261156]Are there many new German additions in the line up at this club? I don't seem to see that many reviews or discussion about the Germans. I wonder if anyone has any experience with any of them. I guess upselling is pretty much wide spread among the DE providers.[/QUOTE]If you are not a kisser, Tia. De is the prettiest girl at Sharks for me. Also Leoni. De who proposed me 1 h for 100 with kissing, but German kissing? And Mandy. De who is prettier with her new, more sophisticated face look with long hair.

Domenika. Hu moved from and seems happy now, she is a real kisser and a real woman in her body, with pretty face and sophisticated face look. She said I know You from Sharks. I m not a regular since Summer 2017, only when I went for Florentina, but how could I miss her? As I told her: Were You hidden under the bar? For sure she would have been my Sharks girl, but she is better now. Nice discovery, small model walk.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2261084]Some girls will leave after the Christmas party on this weekend, others will leave next week after Wednesday. So, be prepared that the line-up soon will thin out significantly.[/QUOTE]When they will return. I already booked my ticket for January 16 . What to expect?

[QUOTE=Tuber19;2261288]When they will return. I already booked my ticket for January 16 . What to expect?[/QUOTE]Until end of January probably 30% less girls, January 2018 was terrible with very poor LU is most of the clubs lasting until mid Feb. Also the most beautiful girls who earned a lot in 18 will take holiday, conclusion reduced LU in quantity but also in quality.

[QUOTE=Tuber19;2261288]When they will return. I already booked my ticket for January 16 . What to expect?[/QUOTE]Mid of January, well, that is IMHO the worst time. I don't know your expectations, but don't expect too much! Maximum it will be half of the big line-up we have/had right now in December.
One month later would have been much better.

Some of the women say, they will not return again, but who knows. Some of them will be gone for good. Some others say, they want to stay away for some month and then will come back.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2261298]Mid of January, well, that is IMHO the worst time. I don't know your expectations, but don't expect too much! Maximum it will be half of the big line-up we have/had right now in December.
One month later would have been much better.

Some of the women say, they will not return again, but who knows. Some of them will be gone for good. Some others say, they want to stay away for some month and then will come back.[/QUOTE]All True.

[QUOTE=Tuber19;2261288]When they will return. I already booked my ticket for January 16 . What to expect?[/QUOTE]What Nick has to say above is all true but it doesn't mean you won't have a good or a great time but as stated do keep your expectations lower than usual. No need to amend your travel plans. I have been in Germany the last few years in early January, as early as January 4 or 5 or arrived about the same time you are. I did Dietzenbach, Mainhatten and Sharks; all different type clubs but all LUs running at roughly 50 percent the usual. I had no issue ever finding a girl in a Sharks depleted LU but coming from where I do Sharks running at 40 to 60 percent capacity is still a paradise. If you are expecting to find the top girls all there or specific ones you want it may turn out you are SOL but there will be others to choose from. I find both December and January to be great months. December full LUs and girls all trying to make the money for their time off and gifts but in January the girls there are going to want to make as much as they can before the masses return so use that to your advantage to strike a few good deals with what is there. There will still be plenty. They have a short window of time to make as much as they can before their competition is back in full, this means opportunity for us.

To the locals it is a great time to do something else or just wait it out until their usual girls return but for us ' fly ins' it still remains a great time. It is always a good time in Germany. I will be there about the same time as you and have no doubt there will be plenty or better said ' enough' for me to choose from. Last January was great at Sharks, was middle of the month too I think. All comes down to the expectations as noted; you will be quite pleased. February would be better, but it isn't like your arrival date is January 2 here; many may be gone but many will slowly be trickling back in especially if your arrival date is the 16 and you will probably be there for several days or more.

I on the other hand will have a rougher time at Dietzenbach as they will be staffed at 6-9 Gypsies tops and with the holidays over it is one of the most crowded time for men as they finally break from the families and crowd it up so demand is way too much and no supply which I think is why I did only Sharks and Mainhatten as supply levels were still great. (for me, as a tourist). For the local German probably not. Don't expect the usual but don't expect to have a bad time either.

Thanks Kosher Kowboy and NickTheG, my travel options are limited, so January is my only option, my expectation will be low, but I hope girls will be back at the time.

[QUOTE=Tuber19;2261423]Thanks Kosher Kowboy and NickTheG, my travel options are limited, so January is my only option, my expectation will be low, but I hope girls will be back at the time.[/QUOTE]If you visit the big clubs like Shark or Oase there will be always enough pussy to get satisfied, sometimes the girls are willing to please you more to try to get a new customer.

Was wondering if it's worth going to FKK around holidays time, 12/25 -- 1/5 let's say or if everyone is on vacation? Thank you.

[QUOTE=Cassius8;2261504]Was wondering if it's worth going to FKK around holidays time, 12/25 -- 1/5 let's say or if everyone is on vacation? Thank you.[/QUOTE]Many treads about that subject, not the good time at all but you can be lucky and find the right girls.

[QUOTE=SinglePro;2261156]Are there many new German additions in the line up at this club? I don't seem to see that many reviews or discussion about the Germans. I wonder if anyone has any experience with any of them. I guess upselling is pretty much wide spread among the DE providers.[/QUOTE]I see the German girls always coming in and out. More experienced visitors can provided more info, but each time I go there I see at least 1 or 2 German girls that I didn't see the previous time.

(I still dream of the room I had with Xiomara who I have yet to see again there). Angelina, the buxom half-Colombian, wasn't there this week but she was there last time.

Always just check the German table between the cafeteria and the bar. They tend to all hang out there.

Yesterday was Christmas party at Sharks.

Club was quite full.

Full of girls. Full of beauties. Full of sick girls. :

I talked to many and maybe 50% of them was sick.

Really pity! That sharks let them even work when they are significant sick.

Even 1 girl had clearly herpes!

Because my little friend, I only had 1 session and was very careful.

Not so much fun, to know that the club / girls don't care about infections.

Pity! An I started to love FKKs.

I am in Frankfurt in mid January, and wish to spend a Sunday in sharks.

My first two FKK's were living room and ACA, both the girls are very happy to do €50 30 minute sessions. So my question is will the good looking girls do this at Sharks? I'm really not interested in spending full hour with a girl, prefer being on my self at club, with 5-6 sessions with cutest girl I can find.

Second question- are there any non Caucasian girls at Sharks? I love my Romanians, but am keen to try other nationalities.

That's clearly not the place to go if you want a good service for 50 euros.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2261754]Yesterday was Christmas party at Sharks.

Club was quite full.

Full of girls. Full of beauties. Full of sick girls. :

I talked to many and maybe 50% of them was sick.

Really pity! That sharks let them even work when they are significant sick.

Even 1 girl had clearly herpes!

Because my little friend, I only had 1 session and was very careful.

Not so much fun, to know that the club / girls don't care about infections.

Pity! An I started to love FKKs.[/QUOTE]This is a very serious statement. When you say sick do you mean that they have flu or something else? [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

I can report from my Friday and Thursday visits: While clearly there are 50% romanians or bulgarians, there are quite a few germans (8-10), quite a few girls who a have a more northern look (e. G. Litauania, ungarian), lots of skinny girls, and very busty (natural the or dd) girls.

Service-wise there are 30% of the women ok with decent service for 50 e. But the cutest girls will have a higher price.

[QUOTE=ACALover;2261798]I am in Frankfurt in mid January, and wish to spend a Sunday in sharks.

My first two FKK's were living room and ACA, both the girls are very happy to do 50 30 minute sessions. So my question is will the good looking girls do this at Sharks? I'm really not interested in spending full hour with a girl, prefer being on my self at club, with 5-6 sessions with cutest girl I can find.

Second question- are there any non Caucasian girls at Sharks? I love my Romanians, but am keen to try other nationalities.[/QUOTE]

I should mentzion that during both of my visits, I had a really great time. Sharks has amazing choice. For me quite a few stunners. 2-3 incredible beautiful big-boobers.

I had a good experience with one of the more expensive girls, which asked for 100 e for 30 min and I talked her down to meet at the middle (e. G 70 e) for more service. Compare this with being in Denver, Vegas, NYC, Paris, Dubai, Sydney, (name-your-city), and you should admit that this is very good priced.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2262163]I can report from my Friday and Thursday visits: While clearly there are 50% romanians or bulgarians, there are quite a few germans (8-10), quite a few girls who a have a more northern look (e. G. Litauania, ungarian), lots of skinny girls, and very busty (natural the or dd) girls.

Service-wise there are 30% of the women ok with decent service for 50 e. But the cutest girls will have a higher price.[/QUOTE]

Compare this with being in Dusseldorf (same country), in Maintal (50 km), in Dierdorf (130 km) or in Neunkirchen (150 km) and you should admit that this is a rip-off.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2262163]I can report from my Friday and Thursday visits: While clearly there are 50% romanians or bulgarians, there are quite a few germans (8-10), quite a few girls who a have a more northern look (e. G. Litauania, ungarian), lots of skinny girls, and very busty (natural the or dd) girls.

Service-wise there are 30% of the women ok with decent service for 50 e. But the cutest girls will have a higher price.[/QUOTE]90% of the girls are from Romania even you can believe they are from Lithuania.

Is Sharks open regular hours around holidays? Is it closed on any days?

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2262163]I can report from my Friday and Thursday visits: While clearly there are 50% romanians or bulgarians, there are quite a few germans (8-10), quite a few girls who a have a more northern look (e. G. Litauania, ungarian), lots of skinny girls, and very busty (natural the or dd) girls.[/QUOTE]Romanian, bulgarian and moldovan girls contribute more than 85 percent to the lineup at Sharks. I would guess girls from Romania alone contribute 80-85 percent.

Planning to Visit the Frankfurt FKK's after a long time. My Last Visit was not too impressed with the Line-Up in Sharks. Didn't attempt to go to Oase because of the Negative Talk about it being Sharky than ever before. So currently which place has more beautiful faces and is less sharky? Oase or Sharks?

I was in Sharks and Mainhattan last week, and here's a few +s and -s for both. I like the size of Sharks as it is huge and has lots more women. You can walk around the place, and not feel cramped at all. The food is also better. I had a bit of a different experience on prices though. When I went on a slow night (Sunday or Monday), it seemed that most would not give a great 30 min experience for 50 E, and instead wanted 100 E. But when I went back on a busy Fri or Sat night, most quoted 50 E for a great 30 min experience. I'm not sure if others have had this experience, but I'm guessing it had to do with many more women competing for business. Any others with similar experiences where pricing differed depending on the night of the week?

Mainhattan is always starting around 100 E for a good 30 min, regardless of what night of the week you go. It's also smaller and so less room to walk around. But there are a few things I like, such as the more calm separate pool / sauna area where you can find some quiet time to sleep and be left alone. I also like the self-serve soft drinks area in the dining room, so you can just go and get your own drinks without having to wait for a bartender. Of course, it is also much closer than Sharks. The selection of women is less, and it could be me, but they seem a bit more business-minded there.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2262177]Compare this with being in Denver, Vegas, NYC, Paris, Dubai, Sydney, (name-your-city), and you should admit that this is very good priced.[/QUOTE]Interesting information here. I've never hobbies in most of the cities you listed for one reason, the penalty if caught by authorities. Another thing I've found is that in countries of similar economic scales, an activity that is legal in one country but illegal in another is usually cheaper in the country where it's legal. Why, those purchasing have to pay for the risk of those providing.

[QUOTE=Jooeey;2262517]Planning to Visit the Frankfurt FKK's after a long time. My Last Visit was not too impressed with the Line-Up in Sharks. Didn't attempt to go to Oase because of the Negative Talk about it being Sharky than ever before. So currently which place has more beautiful faces and is less sharky? Oase or Sharks?[/QUOTE]Oase is much more sharky than sharks. Both places have sharky ladies but at least sharks has many nicer ones to choose from. As for beautiful faces, I think they're similar.

[QUOTE=ScoobieDiver;2262764] but they seem a bit more business-minded there.[/QUOTE]You Mean in Mainhattan right?

Last Friday, I guess there were 80 girls (60 visible at all times, and 20 in the rooms most of the time). So the 12-13 germans alone, disvalidate your claim below. I also know 2 greek girls there. And 3-4 hungarians. Do the math.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2262263]Romanian, bulgarian and moldovan girls contribute more than 85 percent to the lineup at Sharks. I would guess girls from Romania alone contribute 80-85 percent.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2262177]I had a good experience with one of the more expensive girls, which asked for 100 e for 30 min and I talked her down to meet at the middle (e. G 70 e) for more service. Compare this with being in Denver, Vegas, NYC, Paris, Dubai, Sydney, (name-your-city), and you should admit that this is very good priced.[/QUOTE]I agree with your sentiment that paying the 100430 ( 50430 better) if great service is a great deal relative to where most of us travel from in North America. However, I would exclude Denver from this list entirely, an apple to an orange the oranges being the other cities listed. Denver is literally the last stop, the last frontier as we head west in the States where one can still find great service in the $250 (even $200) to $300 range for hours, and tons of them and perhaps as high as half the girls will offer half hours for 150-200. I expect after January 1 the shit may hit the fan here in fact this past weekend we 'more likely than not' lost another option in advance of the new year.

[QUOTE=Jooeey;2262517] less sharky? Oase or Sharks?[/QUOTE]I think there is no uniform answer to this simply ' monger specific'; there are tons of 50430 left at both and tons of sharky girls at both and in the last year all my visits to both I would call it a wash. Even if one ' has a higher percentage of greedy girls or not' it really is IMHO irrelevant, what is relevant is the ability of the monger himself to persevere and beat them at their own game, and if one can play ball they can find a deal at either place. You ' either have it or you don't' ; I have been able to find what I was looking for at both clubs equally. FWIW we have the ability to simply say ' no' and if one uses that tool enough times at either club eventually a girl will say ' yes' to what the aggressive monger is seeking. The ability to say ' no' and move on to the next or work the girl they told ' no' to harder can potentially save a guy hundreds if not thousands of Euros or dollars or Pesos or any currency over time.

It isn't the club it is the monger. Of course the two city clubs and I guess Artemis start at a higher price level but even there (at least Mainhatten) one can gets Sharks and Oase pricing but takes much more work and time OR they might find service that exceeds the 50430 in the 100430 that well justifies the +50.

IMHO.

[QUOTE=ScoobieDiver;2262764] The selection of women is less, and it could be me, but they seem a bit more business-minded there.[/QUOTE]

Excellent comparison in your side by side, and I agree for the most part. I am obviously biased to the Mainhatten girls and perhaps the fact I go there a lot is why I find them so nice to the point money is rarely even discussed, attitudes seem much better and I do notice less hounding if a guy says no they will smile and walk away seems at Sharks they may be a tad more persistent with the ' why not's'

But we are shaped by our experiences, and I am sure if I never went to Mainhatten and spent all by time at Sharks for the most part ( or Oase) or anywhere such as World etc that I would probably be biased to the girls in that club. One other note on Mainhatten, I do know a lot of guys are paying more than 100430 or 150460 and per a few girls I know they say they ask for the moon because they can screw ( no pun intended) the guys out of it so you are probably right. To the average guy who walks in to Mainahtten vs Sharks they will probably find the Sharks easier to work with..

Jooeey. To comment on your recent question here and a couple of your questions elsewhere recently, it is hard to say Oase or Sharks are more or less sharky than each other. And yes, DFK is getting harder to get in a 50 euro session. FKK has changed from your visits of years ago: good service at 50430 can be found but you need to be prepared to go by your instincts, watch and observe, and use the magic word "no".

No longer can we assume that going to a room for 50 euros will achieve good service in 9 out of 10 cases. I don't know how long you have but it is a good idea if you can to try to establish yourself as a repeat visitor, in other words, someone who is pleasant for the girls to see, and more importantly, a continuing source of euros.It is about choosing the right girls, and being seen by your rejects as, over time, a desirable object. Of course this is hard for infrequent visitors in large clubs, which is why I tend to avoid these two clubs

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2262263]Romanian, bulgarian and moldovan girls contribute more than 85 percent to the lineup at Sharks. I would guess girls from Romania alone contribute 80-85 percent.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2262968]Last Friday, I guess there were 80 girls (60 visible at all times, and 20 in the rooms most of the time). So the 12-13 germans alone, disvalidate your claim below.
I also know 2 greek girls there. And 3-4 hungarians. Do the math.[/QUOTE]At Kuni042.

Believe it or not. 80-85 percent are from Romania. And 2 greek girls? Forget that Kylie is from Greece. She's from North Korea.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2262968]Last Friday, I guess there were 80 girls (60 visible at all times, and 20 in the rooms most of the time). So the 12-13 germans alone, disvalidate your claim below. I also know 2 greek girls there. And 3-4 hungarians. Do the math.[/QUOTE]Last Wednesday, there were more than 120 girls. The last weekend, Friday to Sunday, was Christmas party weekend and the last big chance to harvest money for many of the girls. Reliable sources on a german forum report that on Saturday there were approx. 150 girls there. And true, more german girls as usual were there for the party only. I don't assume that on Friday there were significantly less girls at Sharks altogether.

So it might be the time to calculate again! Do it again, Kuni042!

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2263088]Last Wednesday, there were more than 120 girls. The last weekend, Friday to Sunday, was Christmas party weekend and the last big chance to harvest money for many of the girls. Reliable sources on a german forum report that on Saturday there were approx. 150 girls there. And true, more german girls as usual were there for the party only. I don't assume that on Friday there were significantly less girls at Sharks altogether.

So it might be the time to calculate again! Do it again, Kuni042![/QUOTE]I was there last Wednesday. I saw far less than 120 girls, I'm afraid. Unless they were all there in the early afternoon and all left by 7pm.

A very large number, to be sure, but definitely not past 80.

I could be wrong, but that's what I saw. The L-U is obviously supposed to be less this time of year in mid-december.

Perhaps we counted very differently, but that was what I saw.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2262968]Last Friday, I guess there were 80 girls (60 visible at all times, and 20 in the rooms most of the time). So the 12-13 germans alone, disvalidate your claim below. I also know 2 greek girls there. And 3-4 hungarians. Do the math.[/QUOTE]2 Greeks? You mean Elektra / Kylie is 'Greek,' just like Angelica is 'Egyptian?' Easy to fool clueless US tourists.

I agree with Nick The G here.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2263088]Last Wednesday, there were more than 120 girls. The last weekend, Friday to Sunday, was Christmas party weekend and the last big chance to harvest money for many of the girls. Reliable sources on a german forum report that on Saturday there were approx. 150 girls there. And true, more german girls as usual were there for the party only. I don't assume that on Friday there were significantly less girls at Sharks altogether.

So it might be the time to calculate again! Do it again, Kuni042![/QUOTE]In fact, there were more girls on Friday than on Saturday. From 8 pm to midnight, all rooms were busy, sometimes we had to wait for more than 20 minutes to have a room. On Saturday, it was more easy if I have to compare. About the german girls, I saw approximately the same than usual. Among them, Mandy and Tia.

On last week end, I was welcome by a ex Sharks girl, she said I know you from Sharks, really bad I never noticed her at Sharks, she would have been my real woman, really high level in bed with woman behavior, even only 21 yo, when it was only disappointing visits since my top class girl on mid June, with no room on Friday 30 November. Funny how girls are talkative when they leave Sharks, she seemed very happy with her new kind of clients.

Compare to Sharks nights. Really generous, no upselling, now she pay only 65 € to work, with condom and sleeping, versus 125 at Sharks, 1h30 to be fucked as she said. 2h30 with her between Thursday and Friday nights, she was really enjoyable. She said average business, when she would be one of the prettiest, is about only 400 € per day at Sharks at the moment with 125 to pay to work and sleep, about 1700 per week, when some girls in Germany make 5000 per week.

I have been in this week with a blonde girl with the name Latifa that made my day with what she can do. Latifa is the no 1 girl that I met in my life. Tomorrow I fly back to you. S and I will miss her. It is a blonde girl with a snake tattoo that was very nice and kind and beautiful. Don t miss Latifa guys she is awesome!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2263109]On last week end, I was welcome by a ex Sharks girl, she said I know you from Sharks, really bad I never noticed her at Sharks, she would have been my real woman, really high level in bed with woman behavior, even only 21 yo, when it was only disappointing visits since my top class girl on mid June, with no room on Friday 30 November. Funny how girls are talkative when they leave Sharks, she seemed very happy with her new kind of clients.

Compare to Sharks nights. Really generous, no upselling, now she pay only 65 to work, with condom and sleeping, versus 125 at Sharks, 1h30 to be fucked as she said. 2h30 with her between Thursday and Friday nights, she was really enjoyable. She said average business, when she would be one of the prettiest, is about only 400 per day at Sharks at the moment with 125 to pay to work and sleep, about 1700 per week, when some girls in Germany make 5000 per week.[/QUOTE]I don't know which girl is able to make 5000 euros a week, but this was possible 2 or 3 years back but now it seems extremely hard to get 5000 per week every week for a long period of time, it is at least what the girls are telling me.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2263050]At Kuni042.

Believe it or not. 80-85 percent are from Romania. And 2 greek girls? Forget that Kylie is from Greece. She's from North Korea.[/QUOTE]Maybe about maximum 20 not Romanians, but Romanians are usually my best GF in bed, even at expensive Globe. I m pretty sure I would choose Romanian beauties at Aphrodisia Zurich city for 500/ h. On average, Germans or Polish or Hungarians can t compete for super GFE in bed. Only Latvians or Russians are on same level.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2263050]At Kuni042.

Believe it or not. 80-85 percent are from Romania. And 2 greek girls? Forget that Kylie is from Greece. She's from North Korea.[/QUOTE]There are no Greek girls working in FKK clubs. I don't know why that fool on guys telling them they are Greek maybe they believe they are Aphrodite's sister or something? LOL.

The girls that introduce themselves like Greeks are born and raised in Germany probably from a Greek parent and most of them cannot even speak green properly.

Arrived sharks around 8 PM on last Friday, turned out there was a Christmas party going on that day. The club was full of clients and girls, most of the girls are busy and making great business. Many girls just went up to the pole dance area and start dancing. I remember there was one girl was really good at pole dancing, I was on my way to the room with Francesca, however, she stopped me and asked to stay next to the bar a little bit longer so we could watch that girl dance. Later on that night, Jessica and her friend Cheyenne also put on a great show on the dance floor. For that moment, they were just like top elite strippers in the high-end strip clubs in the US (I have only been to the strip clubs in the US and not sure about other countries) guys would spend thousands of dollars or beg them to even have a private lap dance after that the guys would still think all the money they spend is worth it.

Anyway, on Friday the music was exceptional and the whole club was an actual party. I haven't had that much fun for a really long time, to be honest. Since last year more girls come to the club so the quality of line up dropped so quickly and they have to compete for clients, meanwhile, clients complain there were no real stunners in the club. Even during a normal Friday night, business is usually Ok but not great. Staffs in sharks also increased the quality of food, more options and better than what they always have before. After each room, I was kind of looking forward to going to the kitchen to eat more every time.

I only took Francesca to the room on Friday, her service is always great, we have known each other since she switched from club bartender to normal worker. As for Saturday, I was in the room with two girls separately, they serve standard service but I do not think I would repeat with them. After that, I had a great time with Cheyenne. She just changed her hair color from completely blond to dirty blond. Normally she sits with Jessica and Emily. Too bad Emily was not there last weekend. Cheyenne is that kind of girl people would normally think her as an Instagram model, a real beauty. Guys would spend one thousand dollars at least for escorts in major cities like New York City or LOS Angeles. I am just glad economy in Eastern European countries is not doing great so we all get the chance to spend way less money to have a great time with girls like her. IMO, of course, as customers in the club we do want to spend as less as possible and get as many and great service as possible. The ideal scenario would be 50 euro, we get BBBJ, DFK, GFE, anal and CIM. However, if there is no such things like FKK exist, we would all have to go somewhere else either spend more money or get shitty service with the same money we could spend in FKK. Sometimes, we should appreciate how lucky we are. I know the things I wrote before might just come out from nowhere it is because girls complain sometimes that customers only pay the minimum and want to get as much as they could from the girls.

Many of the girls will go home for Christmas after this week and come back around mid or end of January. So probably the better time to visit would be after January.

[QUOTE=Gaolegao366;2263563]Arrived sharks around 8 PM on last Friday, turned out there was a Christmas party going on that day. The club was full of clients and girls, most of the girls are busy and making great business. Many girls just went up to the pole dance area and start dancing. I remember there was one girl was really good at pole dancing, I was on my way to the room with Francesca, however, she stopped me and asked to stay next to the bar a little bit longer so we could watch that girl dance. Later on that night, Jessica and her friend Cheyenne also put on a great show on the dance floor. For that moment, they were just like top elite strippers in the high-end strip clubs in the US (I have only been to the strip clubs in the US and not sure about other countries) guys would spend thousands of dollars or beg them to even have a private lap dance after that the guys would still think all the money they spend is worth it.

Anyway, on Friday the music was exceptional and the whole club was an actual party. I haven't had that much fun for a really long time, to be honest. Since last year more girls come to the club so the quality of line up dropped so quickly and they have to compete for clients, meanwhile, clients complain there were no real stunners in the club. Even during a normal Friday night, business is usually Ok but not great. Staffs in sharks also increased the quality of food, more options and better than what they always have before. After each room, I was kind of looking forward to going to the kitchen to eat more every time..[/QUOTE]So many other options to get great sex without paying, for me the best sex I never had was not with a prostitute, okay to go with prostitutes is the easiest way but not the best one at least for me.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2263007]Jooeey. To comment on your recent question here and a couple of your questions elsewhere recently, it is hard to say Oase or Sharks are more or less sharky than each other. And yes, DFK is getting harder to get in a 50 euro session. FKK has changed from your visits of years ago: good service at 50430 can be found but you need to be prepared to go by your instincts, watch and observe, and use the magic word "no".

No longer can we assume that going to a room for 50 euros will achieve good service in 9 out of 10 cases. I don't know how long you have but it is a good idea if you can to try to establish yourself as a repeat visitor, in other words, someone who is pleasant for the girls to see, and more importantly, a continuing source of euros.It is about choosing the right girls, and being seen by your rejects as, over time, a desirable object. Of course this is hard for infrequent visitors in large clubs, which is why I tend to avoid these two clubs[/QUOTE]Yep! I agree being an infrequent visitor to these clubs makes it more tough to get an exceptional service, so yes going by one's own instincts may help. But it is always wise to ask for a general consensus here right? Which is what I am doing. The Reason I believe in going for 50 Euros is for a couple of reasons, You get to try more girls, if you are not carrying huge amount of money, you don't get bored, the girls do not get bored of you and on top of that there is no guarantee for the first round if I can go that long (At least with me), and finishing fast in the first go and waiting inside the room with the girl to get ready and refill for the second round I don't know how feasible that is. So a couple of things, but I guess once I am there based on the Vibes of the girls, your chemistry and the trend there these are certain decision which have to be taken on the spot. But someone pointed out this early. Oase still remains the Sharkiest place of the two, which is sad because back in 2014 when I visited Oase for the first time I was quite impressed with the Optics and girls there.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2263532]There are no Greek girls working in FKK clubs. I don't know why that fool on guys telling them they are Greek maybe they believe they are Aphrodite's sister or something? LOL.

The girls that introduce themselves like Greeks are born and raised in Germany probably from a Greek parent and most of them cannot even speak greek properly.[/QUOTE]There have been greek girls at Sharks. I remember two. One of them was the exceptional Vana in summer 2017.

Aphrodite, and Bella (behind the bar), speak greek very well, even though they are romanian.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2263793]There have been greek girls at Sharks. I remember two. One of them was the exceptional Vana in summer 2017.

Aphrodite, and Bella (behind the bar), speak greek very well, even though they are romanian.[/QUOTE]Nick,

There might be one more. Her name started with a 'C**' . I saw her once for 50 and the next time I talked to her she refused to go for under 100 telling me I take others for 100 and that I was a cheap Charlie. She religiously sat at the ' rounded' corner of the bar ( right in Patricia's view from her couch, directly in front of the Moldovan Princess :D ) and opposite the the corner where the Hungarian girls sit next to the German section. She had medium / long dark hair, tied up half the time, bright red lipstick sometimes pink, huge man made headlights and had a very distinct chest tattoo that ended between her breasts. Medium frame. She gave a great blowjob, but developed an attitude to me since I didn't think she was worth 100, two way street I guess. Anyway, I met a guy from Athens in Sharks and I did hear her yapping at him in Greek although my guess is she is Romanian (as she was yapping in Romanian to the other girls) and just speaks Greek maybe a parent was, a grandparent or perhaps she worked as a WG in Greece, who knows. Not sure if she is really Greek or just speaks the language. You would know better. ??

[QUOTE=Gaolegao366;2263563]
I only took Francesca to the room on Friday, her service is always great, we have known each other since she switched from club bartender to normal worker. [/QUOTE]Is there more than one Francesca at Sharks? I never knew one that tended the bar and became a WG but first time in Sharks for me was late 2016 early winter 2017 so maybe this preceded such. The one I went with was on the older side of the LU as a whole probably late 20's wouldn't shock me if young 30's and sat on the couch directly before the stairs to the hot tubs that look up the stairs, to her right in the sitting position would be Betty in her chair under fish tank and to her left just over her shoulder Patricia. She has a very full set of pussy lips, a delight to chew on. Great attitude, non rushed service, didn't upsell or ask for a tip; would happily repeat.

Trying to track down my favorite Sharks of past given I know little of the LU now and a trip looms and with the Gypsies misbehaving (the actions of three will get all punished) and more likely than not being put on a ' trip's probation' and skipped for the month of January (come February they will stop asking for money with sob stories) will end up in Darmstadt a few times it looks like and I just can't wait to get my 65 e worth (or 50 e) making full use of the wellness center, eating their lavish buffets and of course using the basin in the back bathroom of the men's locker room!

And giving away my money for services rendered to deserving ladies such as the Francesca I went with (not sure if the same one been reading about recently is the same one I met).

:D

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2263793]There have been greek girls at Sharks. I remember two. One of them was the exceptional Vana in summer 2017.

Aphrodite, and Bella (behind the bar), speak greek very well, even though they are romanian.[/QUOTE]FKK clubs are not popular in Greece I am almost 99 % sure these girls you meet that speak Greek are not born and raised in Greece and decided to move and work in Germany.

They probably as you said have one parent and they speak a few words but not the kind of girls that would leave the country and work there. I am not surprised that they speak Romanian or other language, My Francesca in Sharks speaks fluently Italian LOL.

Is somebody going to Sharks tomorrow Friday?

I'd like to know if Angelina (Colombian / German, dark hair, tattoos, silicone) will be there this week-end, specially this Saturday.

I phoned the staff but they can't tell.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2263871]FKK clubs are not popular in Greece[/QUOTE]I am sure everyone who has been to Greece and who came to know the system recognized that the laws are different and the orthodox church has a mighty influence, the church itself would never allow a FKK-club similar to those in Germany, nowhere.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2263871]I am almost 99 % sure these girls you meet that speak Greek are not born and raised in Greece and decided to move and work in Germany.[/QUOTE]Vana came from Greece. She met a german working girl who was on vacation in Greece. Maybe due to the bad economical circumstances in Greece Vana followed her to Germany to work in Sharks for some time.

It is absolutely not necessary to transfigure the greek women as holy virgins, while the greek men, especially those "kamaki's", fuck the female tourists like rabbits.

[URL]https://www.tripsavvy.com/what-is-greek-kamaki-1526318[/URL]

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2263806]Nick, There might be one more. Her name started with a 'C**' . ....
Not sure if she is really Greek or just speaks the language. You would know better. ??[/QUOTE]Sorry, no!

But now I remember the name of the other greek woman I mentioned: Elena / Eléni. She was in Sharks October to early December 2016.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2263949]It is absolutely not necessary to transfigure the greek women as holy virgins, while the greek men, especially those "kamaki's", fuck the female tourists like rabbits.

[URL]https://www.tripsavvy.com/what-is-greek-kamaki-1526318[/URL][/QUOTE]They are not holy virgins they are bigger working girls then the ones that work in Germany. I am sure that when they find out about FKK they will all move there LOL.

Kamaki men are not popular anymore. This started when Scandinavian women mainly came to Rhodes alone and to have some fun. They were looking for the Greek lover and then were opening wide their legs just for one drink. But this was back in the 80's, the teenagers today are not like that and most of the young ladies are gold diggers following the global trend.

[QUOTE=Gaolegao366;2263563]I was on my way to the room with Francesca,
I only took Francesca to the room on Friday, her service is always great, we have known each other since she switched from club bartender to normal worker.
Many of the girls will go home for Christmas after this week and come back around mid or end of January. So probably the better time to visit would be after January.[/QUOTE]

I think we might be talking about the same Francesca as I mentioned in my Sharks report. Is she a tall blonde girl?

[QUOTE=RoyPunter;2233633]My report for my day at Sharks.

One if the great things I noticed about Sharks is that they provide Hair Gel, which helps greatly with my game. Not sure why Oase or any of the other clubs don't provide this.

Anyway, I got to Sharks around 12 pm on a Saturday. Lineup was not bad, but I decided to sit around, until someone really got my motors running. Waited till about 3 pm eating the food and relaxing. Then saw Francesca walk into the club. Attraction at first sight. She is really tall, maybe 6 2. Waited around in the area to the left of the bar and finally saw her coming out. Grabbed her attention and sat down with her. Agreed to go to the room for E100 for 1 hour. We took one of the rooms upstairs and kept the window open since it was Hot. She told me to wait for a couple of minutes while she went to freshen up. I got some time to get my little guy up. When she came back in she saw me hard and I think got a little turned on by it. Went straight to BBBJ, then some pussy licking, then standing doggy. Since she is so tall, it was a little hard to be comfortable. Switched to doggy on the bed, this went on for 10 minutes and was great. She is a great moaner. Finished in missionary. We still had about 20 minutes to go. Cleaned up and she asked me if I wanted to go again. She put a tissue on my cock and I teased her like I was going to enter her without any protection. Of course I didn't, but it was arousing to be held back by her legs. I couldn't get him up again in those 20 minutes. She spent the remaining time dancing provocatively and grinding me. For the rest of the evening, we made eye contact many times and she would check how I was doing. I will definitely repeat. She told me she was 27, but she looked much younger. I've also never seen her name mentioned on this forum, which is unusual since she seems like the girl every man would be lining up for. She felt like a great GFE, which is something I was looking for.

I also took another girl to the room, but I forget her name. It wasn't great, but probably because I was done with my 1 pop for the day.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2263806]She religiously sat at the ' rounded' corner of the bar ( right in Patricia's view from her couch, directly in front of the Moldovan Princess . [/QUOTE]Ah yes, the Moldovan Princess. Had a great PSE 3 sum at the beginning of this year with Patricia and her lesbian sidekick Julie, both from Moldova. They always sit together at the sofa in between the bar and the stairs to the caves.

Of course, YMMV if there is no spark, but for some reason both Julie and Patricia were in a dirty nasty pornstar mood and absolutely devoured me that particular day. One of the best PSE fucks in my life and it was great fun to watch and participate in licking and fingering their pussies and giving both of them orgasms, or them giving me a BJ while french kissing each other.

Both are not shy about some hardcore fucking.

I have not repeated a 3 some with them simply because I don't think we can repeat that particular day, although I have sessioned with each of them individually since then.

[QUOTE=RoyPunter;2233633]My report for my day at Sharks.

One if the great things I noticed about Sharks is that they provide Hair Gel, which helps greatly with my game. Not sure why Oase or any of the other clubs don't provide this.

Anyway, I got to Sharks around 12 pm on a Saturday. Lineup was not bad, but I decided to sit around, until someone really got my motors running. Waited till about 3 pm eating the food and relaxing. Then saw Francesca walk into the club. Attraction at first sight. She is really tall, maybe 6 2. Waited around in the area to the left of the bar and finally saw her coming out. Grabbed her attention and sat down with her. Agreed to go to the room for E100 for 1 hour. We took one of the rooms upstairs and kept the window open since it was Hot. She told me to wait for a couple of minutes while she went to freshen up. I got some time to get my little guy up. When she came back in she saw me hard and I think got a little turned on by it. Went straight to BBBJ, then some pussy licking, then standing doggy. Since she is so tall, it was a little hard to be comfortable. Switched to doggy on the bed, this went on for 10 minutes and was great. She is a great moaner. Finished in missionary. We still had about 20 minutes to go.[/QUOTE]Most of the top girls are not mentioned on this forum, do you really believe I will ever mention them, never believe what is written on any forum on internet as long the guys or woman are not giving their real name.

[QUOTE=Silikon;2263913]Is somebody going to Sharks tomorrow Friday?

I'd like to know if Angelina (Colombian / German, dark hair, tattoos, silicone) will be there this week-end, specially this Saturday.

I phoned the staff but they can't tell.[/QUOTE]Nobody is able to tell you if a girl will come tomorrow or not, even the girl doesn't know, most of them are also doing escort if they can find a good customer for the next day they will not come to the club.

[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2264137]Ah yes, the Moldovan Princess. Had a great PSE 3 sum at the beginning of this year with Patricia and her lesbian sidekick Julie, both from Moldova. They always sit together at the sofa in between the bar and the stairs to the caves.

Of course, YMMV if there is no spark, but for some reason both Julie and Patricia were in a dirty nasty pornstar mood and absolutely devoured me that particular day. One of the best PSE fucks in my life and it was great fun to watch and participate in licking and fingering their pussies and giving both of them orgasms, or them giving me a BJ while french kissing each other.

Both are not shy about some hardcore fucking.

I have not repeated a 3 some with them simply because I don't think we can repeat that particular day, although I have sessioned with each of them individually since then.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much for sharing, great info to know. I have been doing many doubles just at another less expensive place :D

I have met Julie. I met her when Patricia called me over to meet her friend. Hindsight is always 20/20 but Julie probably would have treated me well but I was already set up to go with Francesca that day at that time so I can't really say I regret that choice. There is always tomorrow, or next month, their interaction sounds quite exciting and one reason I do not not doubles in some of these nicer clubs is the girls wipe each others spit off the guys cock in between blowjobs and don't blow in unison and IMO if they can't both chew on a cock the same time it is not worth the money.

I wonder how this double compares in quality and price to the well discussed (at least privately) double up the road at Oase with two of their well known popular Queens. (expensive ones).

Someone else also suggested Mandy and some other (might be German) girl who is all inked up names starts I think with a ' L' , can't recall for sure.

For my third and final trip of the year to Frankfurt, I had set aside 4 days and my plan was to visit Sharks, Palace and Oase in that order and return to the best of the lot on the last day. Unfortunately I had to curtail my trip to 2 days so decided to stick to Sharks and Palace as guess I've spent more time at Oase over the years.

Got to Sharks at around 5 pm and it was E50 entry for a Wednesday. Outside Fridays and Saturdays, in my experience Wednesday at Sharks is the best day at any Hessen Club as you pretty much get the full line up. Were good numbers of girls, perhaps 80-90 and a lot of new faces. The quality was also high. Perhaps not too many show stopping bombshells but there were perhaps 15-20 very fuckable girls, many of whom I had not seen before. ​.

Sunita:- I usually end up with a blonde first as good ones are relatively rare in Dubai and a lot of the new stunners were young blondes. Sunita falls short of this category but her pre-room talk and caresses got me hard and although she was not on my mental shortlist, I wasn't now thinking straight. Pretty face, slim, nice natural figure with perky handful of a pair and a tan. Fake blonde long hair. In many ways she's a generic FKK girl.

In the room however she was annoying with her upsells. Wanting extra for "GFE" also for BBJ and trying to sell an hour before demonstrating she was worth a prolonged session. I said I was happy to give her an extra E50 for CIM or COF as per the traditional price but I wasn't going to pay extra for BBJ in itself. Blowie was fairly decent but nothing special and she was still annoying me with asking if I wanted an hour. I decided to end the session with cumming on her face as I had a big load to deposit and thought I'd enjoy the visual so I straddled her face and wanked over her mouth. She was covering her eyes with her hand which somewhat spoiled the effect but was a satisfactory end to what was otherwise a sub-par session. E100.

Ester and Elizabeth:- Thinking about it now, it was Ester who got me hard which made me vulnerable to Sunita who approached me just after I had a catch up with Ester. I've been with her quite a few times in the past so when she sees me she comes and sits on my lap for 10 minutes and gives me some soft kisses and caresses whilst we catch up. I told her that I'd take her for my second session so I could devour her for a full hour whereas for my first session I wouldn't be able to last more than 30 minutes.

Ester is pretty much my type of girl. Facially stunning, slim but not skinny, smooth skin and nice tits. A natural beauty. You often see girls arrive or leave the club sans make up and in their normal clothes and if you saw most of them on the street you wouldn't look at them twice whereas Ester would turn heads in any context. Service wise she has got better with time and as I've become a regular, I do believe I get her A game. I worked out that I've now seen her 8 times now which equals the record with any FKK girl (she shares the accolade with my beloved Fidan who left Oase perhaps 4 years ago but who always brings a warm glow when I think of her).

I'm very partial to threesomes but these days tend to choose a regular and then pick one of her friends or another girl she is comfortable with to minimise the risk of it going wrong. When I was ready, Ester was chatting to a cute, petite brunette who had caught my eye in any event. Elizabeth has natural perky tits and is facially pretty. We were waiting for a room for ages but enjoyed having one of them on each leg whilst waiting.

It was as I fully expected a fantastic session. FK with both of them. Had a good feast on Elizabeth's tits and ate her out for a bit; had them both taking turns to suck me off whilst the other gave me some nipple play (which I adore) and also a double header; Elizabeth was probably the better at giving a BJ and at times she went really deep; I then did Elizabeth a bit in missionary and then Ester in doggy before back to the blow jobs; Ester moved towards getting into a 69 whilst Elizabeth was blowing me but asked her to sit on my face instead whilst my hands were all over her smooth and lithe body. I couldn't hold much longer and ended up cumming in Elizabeth's mouth whilst Ester was still sat on my face. E250.

Ayesha:- There were perhaps half a dozen or so new young, petite blondes I'd not seen before. 3 of them were real cuties and probably in their early 20's but could pass for 18/19. All had natural tits which I prefer and no tattoos which I don't like. One of them was Ayesha and whisked her to the room. She wanted an extra E50 for bbj which I said I wasn't interested in paying in itself but I was happy to incorporate it and finish with CIM and so she could earn her extra that way. We quite literally shook hands on it.

Very little foreplay but an amazing blowjob which far surpassed what I had expected. Lots of licking, different speeds, varying suction, good eye contact, she knows where the mirror is and uses that well as she's obviously alive to how we like the visuals and what I really liked was her corkscrew motion which added extra tingles! I came well before the 30 minutes mark which given it was my third shot of the night came as a surprise and was also a testimony to her skills. In the post coital bliss, she revealed she liked giving blowjobs and knew she was good at it and said she had tried lots of different techniques to perfect her skills and compared it to other girls who just go up and down. A craftswoman who has honed her skills. I would have been happy spending a whole hour with her and I'd suggest she needs to work on her foreplay to get the longer bookings and following but she's very good at what she does. E100.

Angelika:- I went to recuperate, first with a massage from the lovely Thai masseuse and then tried to have a nap which is difficult as there is no quiet area and compared to its competitors, it is not a particularly comfortable club to lounge around in between session. By the time I had risen from my slumber, it was very late and a lot of girls had left and were occupied (it does empty very quickly by 2 am). One woman who was also on her way to leave was Angelika who is a middle aged, Lithuanian with a huge arse but also has big tits. Facially she is impressive and I'm sure in her heyday she was a stunner. There is something that I find incredibly erotic about her (perhaps because it feels so wrong when the place is littered with slim, young girls in their 20's). Angelika is also a lovely lady and provides excellent service. After some FK and a good grope and suck of her tits, I lay down and let her do her magic. Tantalising foreplay and another fantastic blowjob delivered by her whilst she was tweaking my nipples with her fingers. She knows how to get me off. Its rare I get to a 4th shot these days but it wasn't a problem with Angelika. E50.

Overall, a fantastic and very enjoyable night with only one sub-par performance. I left wanting more and as the quality and quantity was so high, I'm certain that unless one of my two Oase favourites had miraculously come out of retirement (Fidan and Jennifer) I'd have come back to Sharks for more helpings.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2264348]I have met Julie. I met her when Patricia called me over to meet her friend. Hindsight is always 20/20 but Julie probably would have treated me well but I was already set up to go with Francesca that day at that time so I can't really say I regret that choice. [/QUOTE]Oh well, next time! As you said, there will be another day.

Again, as I said before, perhaps I was just (very!) lucky that they were both in a horny mood and perhaps just wanted to have some fun on the job, and I was the lucky 'victim' who was at the right place at the right time so to speak. YMMV.

I've been with Julie and Patricia separately, and although quite good, it was nowhere near as good as during that one 3 sum where the sparks were flying.

I think it's dangerous, both for my wallet as well as for my psyche, to try to repeat past experiences, because if you're not careful you'll get addicted to a particular girl and it becomes an obsession to repeat or even outperform previous sexual experiences. An obsession and addiction that of course suits the ladies quite well, but us men end up the same as outside the FKK world: enslaved to women and paying for it dearly. Been there, done that with a hooker, and got the t-shirt. Never again!

Due to the above-mentioned reasons I've been deliberately ignoring Patricia and Julie for about 3-4 months now, always leading to a flirtatious look that turns into a 'hurt' look when I don't take them to a room, but I'm sure that in 2019 there will be a time for them again.

In that sense I really liked Barbie (DE) with whom I would also have great PSE sessions, but she was really cool about me having sessions with other women. She'd always say:" you're here to have fun and we're not married, so don't feel pressured that we have to go to a room whenever we spot each other. " A real pro and a nice gal, in a positive sense. Unfortunately she switched to GT about 1/2 year ago, and the few times I visited GT I've never seen her there because she usually works 10-14 days and then takes the rest of the month off. Pity she left Sharks, but for her GT is much easier because she's from NRW.

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[QUOTE=NickTheG;2263793]There have been greek girls at Sharks. I remember two. One of them was the exceptional Vana in summer 2017.

Aphrodite, and Bella (behind the bar), speak greek very well, even though they are romanian.[/QUOTE]Vana was indeed exceptional and was lucky to catch her and she was so good I repeated with her the same day which is rare for me. In fact she did enough to be in my fabled Top 15 of FKK girls out of 180 so I'm not damning her with faint praise). I assume she disapeared from the scene altogether or is elsewhere?

[QUOTE=RoyPunter;2264125]I think we might be talking about the same Francesca as I mentioned in my Sharks report. Is she a tall blonde girl?[/QUOTE]I think you may be talking about Franciska? Tall, slim, blonde girl, natural tits and figure and almost has a schoolmistress look about her? She normally stands on the bar near the canteen side?

[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2264573]Due to the above-mentioned reasons I've been deliberately ignoring Patricia and Julie for about 3-4 months now, always leading to a flirtatious look that turns into a 'hurt' look when I don't take them to a room, but I'm sure that in 2019 there will be a time for them again.[/QUOTE]Patricia is professional enough to play that game and to not feel hurt in any way if it doesn't work. And she is one of the best service providers over the years.

[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2264573]In that sense I really liked Barbie (DE) with whom I would also have great PSE sessions, but she was really cool about me having sessions with other women. She'd always say:" you're here to have fun and we're not married, so don't feel pressured that we have to go to a room whenever we spot each other. " A real pro and a nice gal, in a positive sense.[/QUOTE]The philippine Marlyn has the same point of view and same attitude.

[QUOTE=BeWilder;2264539]Had a good feast on Elizabeth's tits and ate her out for a bit; had them both taking turns to suck me off whilst the other gave me some nipple play (which I adore) and also a double header; Elizabeth was probably the better at giving a BJ and at times she went really deep; I then did Elizabeth a bit in missionary and then Ester in doggy before back to the blow jobs; Ester moved towards getting into a 69 whilst Elizabeth was blowing me but asked her to sit on my face instead whilst my hands were all over her smooth and lithe body. I couldn't hold much longer and ended up cumming in Elizabeth's mouth whilst Ester was still sat on my face.[/QUOTE]Hold on to your memories. I heard some bird singing, that Elizabeth, who turned 36 a couple of days ago, will not come back in 2019 to Sharks. With regards to this type of work it sounds she is gone for good.

[QUOTE=BeWilder;2264693]I think you may be talking about Franciska? Tall, slim, blonde girl, natural tits and figure and almost has a schoolmistress look about her? She normally stands on the bar near the canteen side?[/QUOTE]Yeah likely. She fits the description. Any idea if she is at the club now? I will be visiting on 24th.

[QUOTE=RoyPunter;2264730]Yeah likely. She fits the description. Any idea if she is at the club now? I will be visiting on 24th.[/QUOTE]She's planning to stay till the 28th.

[QUOTE=Jooeey;2264959]If My memory serves me correct, she is the same matured looking, a little old lady who keeps sitting on the Bar Stool with her body covered like a towel wrapped around her body not showing anything! Right? I mean one can easily identify her looking a bit lost and aloof amidst the mostly very young Sharks girls.[/QUOTE]Correct, always at the same bar spot near the German tables on that side of the bar, almost a fixture in that seat at least when I am there. She is there very early in the day usually opens the place; in fact my first trip to Sharks ever she was the first one who talked to me. She is a very nice girl (lady) but not for me; she does seem to have a following; is sometimes (not always) employed more than some of the younger ones.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2264726]Hold on to your memories. I heard some bird singing, that Elizabeth, who turned 36 a couple of days ago, will not come back in 2019 to Sharks. With regards to this type of work it sounds she is gone for good.[/QUOTE]Nick.

I remember meeting you at sharks in January and you suggested me Elizabeth. I had beautiful experience with her. I am visiting sharks on January 24 until 27 and I am very disappointed that she will not be available. I hope meeting you again.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2264982]Correct, always at the same bar spot near the German tables on that side of the bar, almost a fixture in that seat at least when I am there. She is there very early in the day usually opens the place; in fact my first trip to Sharks ever she was the first one who talked to me. She is a very nice girl (lady) but not for me; she does seem to have a following; is sometimes (not always) employed more than some of the younger ones.[/QUOTE]Angelika can be relied upon to give good service every time.

[QUOTE=Bonsai;2261754]Yesterday was Christmas party at Sharks.
Club was quite full.
Full of girls. Full of beauties. Full of sick girls. :
I talked to many and maybe 50% of them was sick.
Really pity! That sharks let them even work when they are significant sick.
Even 1 girl had clearly herpes!
Because my little friend, I only had 1 session and was very careful.
Not so much fun, to know that the club / girls don't care about infections.
Pity! An I started to love FKKs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2261996]This is a very serious statement. When you say sick do you mean that they have flu or something else? [/QUOTE]I could not possibly believe that no one followed up on this serious issue. Anyone saw anything going on at the club? Work while being sick? Infections? Are you kidding? This doesn't seem to conern you mongers? I've observed a pattern that as soon as the discussion of STD was brought up, people seem to want to pivot to a different kind of discussion. Is it too taboo to talk about it? Don't want to make a big deal out of it?

[QUOTE=SinglePro;2265211]I could not possibly believe that no one followed up on this serious issue. Anyone saw anything going on at the club? Work while being sick? Infections? Are you kidding? This doesn't seem to conern you mongers? I've observed a pattern that as soon as the discussion of STD was brought up, people seem to want to pivot to a different kind of discussion. Is it too taboo to talk about it? Don't want to make a big deal out of it?[/QUOTE]I was also very surprised that no one followed even when I started. I think that guy meant they had flu but on the other hand he mentioned herpes as well. He should come back and clarify.

[QUOTE=SinglePro;2265211]I could not possibly believe that no one followed up on this serious issue. Anyone saw anything going on at the club? Work while being sick? Infections? Are you kidding? This doesn't seem to conern you mongers? I've observed a pattern that as soon as the discussion of STD was brought up, people seem to want to pivot to a different kind of discussion. Is it too taboo to talk about it? Don't want to make a big deal out of it?[/QUOTE]Sharks is a reputable brothel in the world and mongers come from different countries. I am sure that girls must be periodically screened for STD and other infectious diseases. Secondly most of the mongers come to shark for GFE, BBBJ and CIM. It is quite possible the girls may get sick from BBBJ and CIM from mongers. Mongers should be very careful visiting brothels and use their common sense.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2265140]Angelika can be relied upon to give good service every time.[/QUOTE]I had been with Angelik. She is not so good like Latifah, that girl rocks your world if you know how to talk with her and pay her over 1 h you can do anything with that beauty. I m planning to come this week and have fun again. Can anybody tell me if Latifah is still there a blonde girl with a snake on the hand? I forgot to take her number.

Is there anyone that can tell me if the blonde girl Latifah is working there because if she's not I will ho visit another club, she is a blonde girl with a snake tattoo on the hand, tall, with perfect tits not so big bot to small with very nice ass and she is very kind and gentle wen you speak with her. Any idea if she is still in shark's?

Many girls, not only at Sharks, cough or catch flu, because they smoke too much so their lungs and throat are weak, and also naked all day, even in Winter. At GT, girls have to go outside for some rooms. Maybe because I usually choose the highest level ones, but never caught more than throat ache in FKK land, when visiting more than 100 days per year, more than 600 visits and 1000 rooms but most often always with same prettiest girls, for a real kisser and datying, I am. Girls have usually good hygiene and Romanians are usually higher level than German girls for this. But for full safety, better to stay at home with wife or girlfriend, to take care of her, then most women will ask for pleasure if their man is still attractive for desire.

Guys,

Let me tell you about the girl that is was, wen she CIM she bites a little the dick and the feeling that is in that moment. Unbelievable and anal was top! I hope Latifah is there this week to make my holidays better.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2265240]Sharks is a reputable brothel in the world ... I am sure that girls must be periodically screened for STD and other infectious diseases.[/QUOTE]HappyShiva, that is a more general answer, so not related to you personally.

Sorry to tell, both aspects are nothing more than wishful thinking.

1.) Just because WE visit this brothel, it does not mean it is a reputable brothel.

2.) As long as the girls themselves don't go to see a doctor, nobody asks / forces them to do it any more in Germany. This has been reported and discussed over and over again in the fora, but every now and then a new (believing) disbeliever surfaces.

Even if they come from other countries, adult people, both women and men, are ultimately responsible for their lives and health, even in Germany!

A big brothel like Sharks is like a company. All processes have been optimized to get maximum money from female (especially) and male visitors. How many of us mongers are on the trip of making big money within shortest time disregarding to take care at all of our health?

And how many of us now project this attitude on the girls and blame them for doing the same things. The girls are not screened, they are screwed. By whom? By us. Why can we do it? Because we have the money they need. Otherwise the girls wouldn't do it! They don't dream of being screened, nor screwed. Their dream is to gain money as quick as possible to finance their own apartment or their education or their planned business.

Lately there were two consecutive days when it was relatively cold in the club and many girls told me that they became sick (flu) because of that. And over the years I have seen quite a couple of girls that worked even though they had herpes on their lips. They have extra costs for a lot of make-up to cover the obvious, and they are glad that they work in such a lowlight environment.

[QUOTE=SinglePro;2265211]Anyone saw anything going on at the club? Work while being sick? Infections? Are you kidding? [/QUOTE]Work situation in brothels is like work situation in companies. The environment enhances self-exploitation and neglect of health aspects!

Nick. Nice to agree with you. Merry Christmas

1. Patricia is a great and honest provider. A very grown up woman who values giving good service. She tempts me to revisit Sharks.

2. I do not understand why do clients continue to think the girls are required to take tests for STDs.

As for the idea that we are avoiding discussion of STDs, I don't see much point in such discussions. If someone says they picked up an std, it will be impossible to know which girl, or probably even which club, was the source. The most practicable way to avoid getting an std is to practice sex in accordance with the July 2017 law, and to prevent further problems, to get tested at least four times a year. Everything else is just hot air.

For completeness, I volunteer the info that I picked up an infection (not at Sharks) diagnosed in November 2018. I do not know which club I got it from but have told as many of the girls I went with as possible. I am not sure this kind of info on the forum helps anyone, but I put it here as an example.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2265419]Nick. Nice to agree with you. Merry Christmas

1. Patricia is a great and honest provider. She tempts me to revisit Sharks.

2. I do not understand why do clients continue to think the girls are required to take tests for STDs.

As for the idea that we are avoiding discussion of STDs, I don't see much point in such discussions. If someone says they picked up an std, it will be impossible to know which girl, or probably even which club, was the source. The most practicable way to avoid getting an std is to practice sex in accordance with the July 2017 law, and to get tested at least four times a year. Everything else is just hot air.

For completeness, I volunteer the info that I picked up an infection (not at Sharks) diagnosed in November 2018. I do not know which club I got it from but have told as many of the girls I went with as possible. I am not sure this kind of info on the forum helps anyone, but I put it here as an example.[/QUOTE]If someone is paranoid about getting STD from FKK or similar establishments, he should practice the safest sex only. Don't visit brothels or WGs. Stick to one pre-tested exclusive partner, and if no such partner, stick to watching porn with self-help. Everything else is too risky for him. End of discussion.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2265425]If someone is paranoid about getting STD from FKK or similar establishments, he should practice the safest sex only. Don't visit brothels or WGs. Stick to one pre-tested exclusive partner, and if no such partner, stick to watching porn with self-help. Everything else is too risky for him. End of discussion.[/QUOTE]Why end of the discussion? We are spending a lot on entrance fees and to session the girls, the minimum that we can expect is to be safe or we can go to cheap countries fucking every type of girls.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2263050]At Kuni042.

Believe it or not. 80-85 percent are from Romania. And 2 greek girls? Forget that Kylie is from Greece. She's from North Korea.[/QUOTE]Oh, is Kylie not Greek? I believed her, but what do I know. Had a good time.

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I was there a few weeks ago, I have been to many other FKKs, mostly in Austria but also in Germany but, OMG, this place on a Saturday is heaven. I never saw so many 8's, 9's and maybe a few 10's in one place. Sure, you have to queue for a room, it's crowded and all but the quality is just fantastic. Too bad for the upselling, the good old 50 banknote gives you very little and I hate when they hurry you so I am stuck with having to pay at least 80 or more, but really, best money ever spent. In the end just did one shot as I am not so good on double shots but well worth the money. Forgot all about the lady's name, but she was really pretty. Will definitely go back, so much better than Oase in Stuttgart or the ones in Vienna.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2265419]Nick. Nice to agree with you. Merry Christmas

2. I do not understand why do clients continue to think the girls are required to take tests for STDs.

As for the idea that we are avoiding discussion of STDs, I don't see much point in such discussions. If someone says they picked up an std, it will be impossible to know which girl, or probably even which club, was the source. The most practicable way to avoid getting an std is to practice sex in accordance with the July 2017 law, and to prevent further problems, to get tested at least four times a year. Everything else is just hot air.

For completeness, I volunteer the info that I picked up an infection (not at Sharks) diagnosed in November 2018. I do not know which club I got it from but have told as many of the girls I went with as possible. I am not sure this kind of info on the forum helps anyone, but I put it here as an example.[/QUOTE]A couple of points: First, in Artemis the girls are most definitely required to have tests and indeed the club brings its own team in once per week to get the girls tested. If they fail they are given the required drugs (assuming its the usual STDs treatable by drugs) and are not allowed to work in the club for 7 days / nights. In fairness to one girl who refused to give my a BBBJ post July 2017 she said it was nothing to do with trying to get more money for her. She did not want to risk losing a week's income. Can't really argue with that. I appreciate this might be rare example of a club forcing testing. But it does happen. Girls who miss tests in Artemis are also not allowed to work until they take and pass one. That was the policy pre July 2017 but it remains so. I have a regular who I see out of the club who still works there and confirms for me that this is how it works.

Secondly. Massive respect to Optimist for his bravery and willingness to share this personal information. I've posted about STD risks in the past and been roundly attacked and told that some guys have had 5000 rooms and never caught a cold let alone an infection. It's almost like guys think STDs are banned from FKKs! It has always surprised me that it is not more common. A decent looking girl in one of these clubs can easily work for 10 hours in rooms giving maybe up to 20 BBBJs or more in a day (we all know some girls get guys off in 10 minutes, quick wash and on to the next! So the risk of picking something up for the girls must be quite high. But guys are unlikely to post "oh dear. Got an STD last week here". Do you know it must be from an FKK Optimist or could it have been from the RLD or elsewhere? Just wondered what percentage chance of it being in an FKK. I know it isn't really important. I'm just interested!

As for posts saying "don't go to FKKs if you don't want to catch anything" that's just crazy. I'm afraid the positives of visiting a venue with 100+ totally naked girls mainly under 30 is far too tempting to just play completely safe. Just unrealistic if you are a guy with blood in your veins who likes sex with pretty girls. But being careful is possible. I've only just stopped giving DATY unless I have been with a girl a few times. It's impossible to inspect a vagina for sores. And getting one of those vaginal condoms out is just a killer! As for receiving BBBJ. Sure its a much greater risk than CBJ but save for using Sagamis (hard to get) its so much better.

All of the above is why I won't go to Dietz. Not just because of the apparently poor facilities (which I wouldn't like either) but because AO is not for me. Far too risky to get something fairly serious from someone who is having unprotected sex with that many guys.

Well done again to Optimist. It shows it does happen and we should all be a little more cautious.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2266165]A couple of points: First, in Artemis the girls are most definitely required to have tests and indeed the club brings its own team in once per week to get the girls tested. If they fail they are given the required drugs (assuming its the usual STDs treatable by drugs) and are not allowed to work in the club for 7 days / nights. In fairness to one girl who refused to give my a BBBJ post July 2017 she said it was nothing to do with trying to get more money for her. She did not want to risk losing a week's income. Can't really argue with that. I appreciate this might be rare example of a club forcing testing. But it does happen. Girls who miss tests in Artemis are also not allowed to work until they take and pass one. That was the policy pre July 2017 but it remains so. I have a regular who I see out of the club who still works there and confirms for me that this is how it works.

Secondly. Massive respect to Optimist for his bravery and willingness to share this personal information. I've posted about STD risks in the past and been roundly attacked and told that some guys have had 5000 rooms and never caught a cold let alone an infection. It's almost like guys think STDs are banned from FKKs! It has always surprised me that it is not more common. A decent looking girl in one of these clubs can easily work for 10 hours in rooms giving maybe up to 20 BBBJs or more in a day (we all know some girls get guys off in 10 minutes, quick wash and on to the next! So the risk of picking something up for the girls must be quite high. But guys are unlikely to post "oh dear. Got an STD last week here". Do you know it must be from an FKK Optimist or could it have been from the RLD or elsewhere? Just wondered what percentage chance of it being in an FKK. I know it isn't really important. I'm just interested!

As for posts saying "don't go to FKKs if you don't want to catch anything" that's just crazy. I'm afraid the positives of visiting a venue with 100+ totally naked girls mainly under 30 is far too tempting to just play completely safe. Just unrealistic if you are a guy with blood in your veins who likes sex with pretty girls. But being careful is possible. I've only just stopped giving DATY unless I have been with a girl a few times. It's impossible to inspect a vagina for sores. And getting one of those vaginal condoms out is just a killer! As for receiving BBBJ. Sure its a much greater risk than CBJ but save for using Sagamis (hard to get) its so much better.

All of the above is why I won't go to Dietz. Not just because of the apparently poor facilities (which I wouldn't like either) but because AO is not for me. Far too risky to get something fairly serious from someone who is having unprotected sex with that many guys.

Well done again to Optimist. It shows it does happen and we should all be a little more cautious.[/QUOTE]Duh! You realize that BBBJ is also unprotected sex, right? Well, unless your real name is William Jefferson Blythe III Clinton, in which case BJ is not even sex LOL 😂.

We all know the L / you can sometimes be poor in early-mid January with ladies still on their extended holiday breaks.

I've never been in January but I have an opportunity to visit for just a day on 11th and I know one of my favourite ladies will definitely be working so I'm tempted.

However after meeting Mandy last month for the first time after many failed attempts I would love to see her again, she ticks all my boxes.

Does anyone have information as to whether Mandy is likely to be back at Sharks on the 11th? (She told me she usually works Tues, Wed, Fri & Sat).

I'm from the UK so to get a cheap flight I will have to book very soon.

If Mandy will definitely be at Sharks I will go, 100%, but if she is unlikely to be there I must decide whether to go and gamble on the L / you (although knowing one of my favourite ladies will be there) or waiting until later in the year to break my 2019 duck.

Sorry for the ramble.

Thanks.

I will be at sharks from January 24th until 27th. See you there all senior members and regulars. Nick G hope to see you there.

[QUOTE=Canary;2266218]We all know the L / you can sometimes be poor in early-mid January with ladies still on their extended holiday breaks.

I've never been in January but I have an opportunity to visit for just a day on 11th and I know one of my favourite ladies will definitely be working so I'm tempted.

However after meeting Mandy last month for the first time after many failed attempts I would love to see her again, she ticks all my boxes.

Does anyone have information as to whether Mandy is likely to be back at Sharks on the 11th? (She told me she usually works Tues, Wed, Fri & Sat).

I'm from the UK so to get a cheap flight I will have to book very soon.

If Mandy will definitely be at Sharks I will go, 100%, but if she is unlikely to be there I must decide whether to go and gamble on the L / you (although knowing one of my favourite ladies will be there) or waiting until later in the year to break my 2019 duck.

Sorry for the ramble.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Small advice never book flights such for 1 girl except you know her very well and have a fix appointment. If she will have some escort, or her days she will not be at Shark.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2266180]Duh! You realize that BBBJ is also unprotected sex, right? Well, unless your real name is William Jefferson Blythe III Clinton, in which case BJ is not even sex LOL 😂.[/QUOTE]For sure. But the risk factor on receipt of BJ unprotected is significantly less than unprotective penetrative sex. But I accept its still a risk, albeit lower.

[QUOTE=Canary;2266218] I'm from the UK so to get a cheap flight I will have to book very soon…….If Mandy will definitely be at Sharks I will go, 100%, but if she is unlikely to be there I must decide whether to go and gamble on the L / you[/QUOTE]Book your flight at a bargain price and come to Sharks on 11 January. You never have a 100% probability even a girl might confirm the day before to come or expecting to see her because she usually was there on a certain day during the week. There are too many other nice options who will make your day anyway.

[QUOTE=Tedesco;2266353]Book your flight at a bargain price and come to Sharks on 11 January. You never have a 100% probability even a girl might confirm the day before to come or expecting to see her because she usually was there on a certain day during the week. There are too many other nice options who will make your day anyway.[/QUOTE]I met big tits Branda in August. Is she around these days? Any expert can tell if her tits are natural or fake? Touched like natural but you never know. Her other two measurements are also very good, slim but with huge tits.

[QUOTE=AllForBb;2266498]I met big tits Branda in August. Is she around these days? Any expert can tell if her tits are natural or fake? Touched like natural but you never know. Her other two measurements are also very good, slim but with huge tits.[/QUOTE]Easy to know, even without going with her, Newton fall. Amazing naturals, but not pretty face for me.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2266321]For sure. But the risk factor on receipt of BJ unprotected is significantly less than unprotective penetrative sex. But I accept its still a risk, albeit lower.[/QUOTE]I guess this is where comes two different schools of thoughts. One is that if I like the girl, I would rather take the full plunge to enjoy the full natural GFE sex as it is supposed to be, like the way God intended to, and knowing that life is short and we all will definitely die sooner or later, from STDs or something else. Other school of thought is to do the half-ass thing, chosing the perceived lower risk option of BBBJ but not BBFS even knowing that the girl might have some STD from all the BBBJs she's doing and spreading all day all year long, like most mediocre risk averse people live to remain in the middle-class bracket for the whole life. Two different philosophies of (mongering) life: living full (maybe shorter) vs living half-ass (maybe longer). To each (monger) his own (way of enjoying the mongering life). 😊

[QUOTE=Gino02;2266703]I guess this is where comes two different schools of thoughts. One is that if I like the girl, I would rather take the full plunge to enjoy the full natural GFE sex as it is supposed to be, like the way God intended to, and knowing that life is short and we all will definitely die sooner or later, from STDs or something else. Other school of thought is to do the half-ass thing, chosing the perceived lower risk option of BBBJ but not BBFS even knowing that the girl might have some STD from all the BBBJs she's doing and spreading all day all year long, like most mediocre risk averse people live to remain in the middle-class bracket for the whole life. Two different philosophies of (mongering) life: living full (maybe shorter) vs living half-ass (maybe longer). To each (monger) his own (way of enjoying the mongering life).[/QUOTE]When you fuck AO a girl fucked AO by many other guys, this is as risky as if I made my free ride runs in flog or when snow is not solid enough yet, or as a avalanches hunter I play sometimes, in Tignes Guerlain Chicherit area, but resort slopes safety staff don t like this kind of game. No disease caught from FKK land, more than 30 free riding years, looking now only for most extreme spots, for adrenaline and passion, and spark in FKK land where one is just enough.

I guess you never had something green, slimy and smelly dripping from your cock do you?

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2266165]

All of the above is why I won't go to Dietz. Not just because of the apparently poor facilities (which I wouldn't like either) but because AO is not for me. Far too risky to get something fairly serious from someone who is having unprotected sex with that many guys.

Well done again to Optimist. It shows it does happen and we should all be a little more cautious.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with everything you wrote in your post and well done to Optimist for disclosing (like me in a couple of occasions) to have caught an infection. As a matter of fact, I was in Sharks at the end of November and I also caught a bacterial infection, which sadly started to manifest itself on Christmas day! The infection has now been successfully treated with an injection of antibiotic and I probably also know which girl gave me this bacterial Christmas gift! This is the second time I've caught a bacterial infection at Sharks over the last year and, as much as I love this club, I will think twice about attending in the future.

I didn't know that Artemis was so strict in STD testing for the girls and I wish Sharks had a similar policy. In fact, one of my favourite girls once told me she wanted to move to Artemis because they had an internal doctor in the club.

In addition, for the record, many bacterial infection can be transmitted also via cross contact. Such as when the girl put the lube in her vagina and then touches your erected sword to put on a condom, that can be a way of transmitting a bacterial or viral infection.

I appreciate it's hard to play safe all the time, but get tested regularly if you visit the clubs often because many infections show no symptoms for a long time.

Rock.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2266766]I totally agree with everything you wrote in your post and well done to Optimist for disclosing (like me in a couple of occasions) to have caught an infection. As a matter of fact, I was in Sharks at the end of November and I also caught a bacterial infection, which sadly started to manifest itself on Christmas day! The infection has now been successfully treated with an injection of antibiotic and I probably also know which girl gave me this bacterial Christmas gift! This is the second time I've caught a bacterial infection at Sharks over the last year and, as much as I love this club, I will think twice about attending in the future.

Rock.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing, this post will make me think not twice but 100 times before visiting Sharks again. How can this happen in maybe the most popular club?

[QUOTE=Gino02;2266703]I guess this is where comes two different schools of thoughts. One is that if I like the girl, I would rather take the full plunge to enjoy the full natural GFE sex as it is supposed to be, like the way God intended to, and knowing that life is short and we all will definitely die sooner or later, from STDs or something else. Other school of thought is to do the half-ass thing, chosing the perceived lower risk option of BBBJ but not BBFS even knowing that the girl might have some STD from all the BBBJs she's doing and spreading all day all year long, like most mediocre risk averse people live to remain in the middle-class bracket for the whole life. Two different philosophies of (mongering) life: living full (maybe shorter) vs living half-ass (maybe longer). To each (monger) his own (way of enjoying the mongering life). 😊[/QUOTE]Certainly an even-handed assessment of both schools of thought. :)

[QUOTE=Gino02;2266703]I guess this is where comes two different schools of thoughts. One is that if I like the girl, I would rather take the full plunge to enjoy the full natural GFE sex as it is supposed to be, like the way God intended to, and knowing that life is short and we all will definitely die sooner or later, from STDs or something else. Other school of thought is to do the half-ass thing, chosing the perceived lower risk option of BBBJ but not BBFS even knowing that the girl might have some STD from all the BBBJs she's doing and spreading all day all year long, like most mediocre risk averse people live to remain in the middle-class bracket for the whole life. Two different philosophies of (mongering) life: living full (maybe shorter) vs living half-ass (maybe longer). To each (monger) his own (way of enjoying the mongering life).[/QUOTE]Usually guys speaking like this are not sick when you are sick from STD you will for sure regret not to always choose the second option.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2266703]I guess this is where comes two different schools of thoughts. One is that if I like the girl, I would rather take the full plunge to enjoy the full natural GFE sex as it is supposed to be, like the way God intended to, and knowing that life is short and we all will definitely die sooner or later, from STDs or something else. Other school of thought is to do the half-ass thing, chosing the perceived lower risk option of BBBJ but not BBFS even knowing that the girl might have some STD from all the BBBJs she's doing and spreading all day all year long, like most mediocre risk averse people live to remain in the middle-class bracket for the whole life. Two different philosophies of (mongering) life: living full (maybe shorter) vs living half-ass (maybe longer). To each (monger) his own (way of enjoying the mongering life).[/QUOTE]The other aspect to consider, besides potentially shortening your own life, is the effect that your decision to participate in AO may have on others and the community. For instance, if you catch something serious (the most serious) are you going to stop the mongering life? Some part of you might say "yes I will stop", but once you're in that position with nothing to lose, then very unlikely that you will sacrifice and forego pleasure, out of integrity. And then if you're not stopping, you're then knowingly putting others, many of us, at risk (which in some countries is considered a crime, for a reason). The best way to avoid this dilemma is to minimize your chances of ending up in that situation.

If your goal is to maximize your potential for pleasure and happiness over the course of your life, than participating in certain risky behaviors is simply irrational. Some risky behaviors are worth it -- take financial risks to grow your wealth, because it's a financial risk (something you can re-earn), and the end result is a desirable one. Choosing to participate in a marginally more pleasurable act (AO)- that mild increase in pleasure does not seem like it's worth the risk to your health and your life. The risk is permanent (irreversible), the end result is undesirable, and the only thing you get is a mild increase in pleasure for a very short term activity. This is akin to taking hard life-threatening drugs like meth.

Your analogy about this middle class sounds inaccurate. If you take financial risks to try to ascend the social hierarchy, then if you succeed, you achieve success -- something admirable by all and objectively good. You are equating the pursuit of financial success and striving to achieve an objectively good thing, with catching harmful and potentially fatal STD's by an inability to make responsible choices. A more accurate analogy for participating in AO is someone who chooses to gamble their live savings in a casino or take heroin on a regular basis. This would be because they "want to live life to the fullest". With respect, this just sounds like an attempt to internally justify an inability to control a very low impulse and poor decision making.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2266582]Easy to know, even without going with her, Newton fall. Amazing naturals, but not pretty face for me.[/QUOTE]Sagging big tits, nice body well trained, not cute face, very pro in the room at least with me, she has 0 chance I will book her again.

[QUOTE=Cassius8;2266828]The other aspect to consider, besides potentially shortening your own life, is the effect that your decision to participate in AO may have on others and the community. For instance, if you catch something serious (the most serious) are you going to stop the mongering life? Some part of you might say "yes I will stop", but once you're in that position with nothing to lose, then very unlikely that you will sacrifice and forego pleasure, out of integrity. And then if you're not stopping, you're then knowingly putting others, many of us, at risk (which in some countries is considered a crime, for a reason). [/QUOTE]You have got to be shitting me! How do you know a guy who gets an STD will not stop? You are clearly assuming any guy who does AO will take the attitude ' fuck everyone else I will continue to AO since it is too late for me. ' What do you base that on? Do you know any guys who have done this or are you just making a statement of opinion with absolutely no facts or evidence to back such a selfish claim up? One well known member recently posted he got an STD and stopped, others simply stop. And you have some magic crystal ball that tells you guys are unlikely (' very unlikely' as you worded it as well) to stop if they contract an STD while it clears up . IMHO that is extremely judgmental of you although I do agree the guy who doesn't stop is putting others at risk. Yes, you are right if one doesn't not cool. I fully agree with you however you have made a very opinionated assumption on other guys and what they would do. The onus falls on the girl to stop as well and girls have STDs and continue to work in many cases (also wrong) so when you (or anyone else) goes to any club it is YOU taking on your own risk. YOU meaning anyone not you personally. The truth of the matter is AO is common, very popular, goes on much more than people think and if I were you I might reconsider your choice in a hobby as the majority of guys I know that do not go to the RTCs are barebacking some regular in a mainstream FKK. One can knock AO as dangerous but one shouldn't knock an activity based solely on their opinion of what someone else would do in fact what you post actually tells me personally more about what you might do if you were the unlucky one to contract an STD not others; usually we judge or predict others' behaviors based on our own. I personally would stop till clear. I hope you would do the same. That being said, why do you assume guys with an STD would continue to fuck? How did you arrive at such an assumption to cast upon others?

I just want to be clear, I am not arguing guys who AO can potentially put others at risk what I am not at all in agreement with is the casting of judgments on others when one has zero clue how another would behave. I appreciate your input but it is insulting in some ways but for discussion purposes, thank you for posting it. Your point is very valid, it is your assumption which is not.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2266703] Two different philosophies of (mongering) life: living full (maybe shorter) vs living half-ass (maybe longer). To each (monger) his own (way of enjoying the mongering life). 😊[/QUOTE]Reminds me of when I left Mainhatten waiting on Tram 11 smoking a cigarette talking to an Egyptian man. He told me an expression in Arabic that means ' live short and well not long and miserable' ; as he lit up a second smoke.

Everything good (including Big Mac's that I love) well mostly everything good can be bad for you. Not always. But much truth to the two schools of philosophies. To each their own.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2266766]
In addition, for the record, many bacterial infection can be transmitted also via cross contact. Such as when the girl put the lube in her vagina and then touches your erected sword to put on a condom, that can be a way of transmitting a bacterial or viral infection.
[/QUOTE]Very true, my doctor who knows of my adventures tells me UTIs are often forgot about as a risk of this game. Cross contact is very easy to transmit.

I think all would agree BBBJ is less risky than AO but not risk free but I am not reading too much about DATY as a risk, infections in the mouth can occur very easily so guys who fuck with condoms only but get BBBJ are not only taking on some degree of risk but add in DATY to the mix the risk increases. Vaginal fluids in to a guy's mouth are not filtered for bacteria and viruses. Girl gets fingered or somehow gets a cut in her pussy and the next guy sticks his tongue up her kunt all the way in could prove to be risky. Or not. Just never know.

The above thoughts are not casting judgments on others behaviors just pointing things out, at the end of the day we all decide the risk level we want (as do the girls) but no matter how you slice the pie all of us are taking on a risk in this game. Several girls in the states have told me over the years and no way girls in Germany do not practice this either (in fact I know of one who does in one club and she is not the only one) shoves a tampon or The Today sponge up her pussy when on the rag (and bleeding.) I know one guy at one of these clubs who once told me when he pulled his dick out it was red, I told him this girl is known to work with a tampon in during her period. Just another ' trick' in their book.

And just to add to others sentiments, if you are that scared of STDs take up coin or stamp collecting but in the event you need to get in your car and merge on to a highway to go to the store make sure to double check your rear and side view mirrors, car accidents are quite common especially with merges at high speeds; often with deadly or life threatening injuries not treatable with pills or a shot. Just saying.

We may see on the ISG here (Sharks thread) over the last few months a few reports of guys getting infections but it also happens to be one of the most populated and busiest clubs and one needs to simply look at the post counts for the Sharks and oase threads for that matter. When the American boards were open (some still) the majority of reviews are always Sharks and Oase. That being said of course the number of ' admissions' would be higher at this club than at a tiny club but if anyone thinks as a percentage of all the girls working at clubs that Sharks is STD infested while a smaller club such as Mainhatten or Living Room (I am told it is small) are STD free think again.

Glad this thread comes up again (despite being slightly off-topic).

There is a lot of wisdom in what you write. I totally refrain from BBBJ. My theory is, that the girl cannot do a covered BJ well. She won't be able to do a BBBJ well either. But a well done CBJ can indeed only be marginally improved with a BBBJ (imo! But you pay often much more money, and run into those risks.

Just my question: if the lady is already having an STD and the BBBJ is risky, how risky would be DFK too?

[QUOTE=Cassius8;2266828]The other aspect to consider, besides potentially shortening your own life, is the effect that your decision to participate in AO may have on others and the community. For instance, if you catch something serious (the most serious) are you going to stop the mongering life? Some part of you might say "yes I will stop", but once you're in that position with nothing to lose, then very unlikely that you will sacrifice and forego pleasure, out of integrity. And then if you're not stopping, you're then knowingly putting others, many of us, at risk (which in some countries is considered a crime, for a reason). The best way to avoid this dilemma is to minimize your chances of ending up in that situation.

If your goal is to maximize your potential for pleasure and happiness over the course of your life, than participating in certain risky behaviors is simply irrational. Some risky behaviors are worth it -- take financial risks to grow your wealth, because it's a financial risk (something you can re-earn), and the end result is a desirable one. Choosing to participate in a marginally more pleasurable act (AO)- that mild increase in pleasure does not seem like it's worth the risk to your health and your life. The risk is permanent (irreversible), the end result is undesirable, and the only thing you get is a mild increase in pleasure for a very short term activity. This is akin to taking hard life-threatening drugs like meth.

Your analogy about this middle class sounds inaccurate. If you take financial risks to try to ascend the social hierarchy, then if you succeed, you achieve success -- something admirable by all and objectively good. You are equating the pursuit of financial success and striving to achieve an objectively good thing, with catching harmful and potentially fatal STD's by an inability to make responsible choices. A more accurate analogy for participating in AO is someone who chooses to gamble their live savings in a casino or take heroin on a regular basis. This would be because they "want to live life to the fullest". With respect, this just sounds like an attempt to internally justify an inability to control a very low impulse and poor decision making.[/QUOTE]

Interesting!

Two things:

A) she should first put the condom on your willi.

B) she should 100% have washed her hands (we can assume that 90% of the girls will do that- right? Right?

[QUOTE=RockyV;2266766]..... many bacterial infection can be transmitted also via cross contact. Such as when the girl put the lube in her vagina and then touches your erected sword to put on a condom

Rock.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I believe that she is asian. "North Korea" sounds so unlikely a lie, so it must be true. Ultimately, I do not care, as others said. You can get awesome service from anyone.

Kylie is a very rare asian with her rack though.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2263050]At Kuni042.

Believe it or not. 80-85 percent are from Romania. And 2 greek girls? Forget that Kylie is from Greece. She's from North Korea.[/QUOTE]

120 girls? I totally doubt it. They only have max 40 "rooms", 23 rooms upstairs, 4 rooms downstairs, 12 "tents" inside.

That would mean you should see 80 girls outside, which is simply not true. Do your own count again too, Nick!

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2263088]Last Wednesday, there were more than 120 girls. The last weekend, Friday to Sunday, was Christmas party weekend and the last big chance to harvest money for many of the girls. Reliable sources on a german forum report that on Saturday there were approx. 150 girls there. And true, more german girls as usual were there for the party only. I don't assume that on Friday there were significantly less girls at Sharks altogether.

So it might be the time to calculate again! Do it again, Kuni042![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2266889]Very true, my doctor who knows of my adventures tells me UTIs are often forgot about as a risk of this game. Cross contact is very easy to transmit.

I think all would agree BBBJ is less risky than AO but not risk free but I am not reading too much about DATY as a risk, infections in the mouth can occur very easily so guys who fuck with condoms only but get BBBJ are not only taking on some degree of risk but add in DATY to the mix the risk increases. Vaginal fluids in to a guy's mouth are not filtered for bacteria and viruses. Girl gets fingered or somehow gets a cut in her pussy and the next guy sticks his tongue up her kunt all the way in could prove to be risky. Or not. Just never know..[/QUOTE]Dear KK,

First at all I want you to know I really enjoy reading your reports, which are always very entertaining and well written. So thank you for that, you are a great writer!!

1) In response to your doubts about the risks with DATY, yes, you can catch an STD in your throat just like gay men get them in their anus. According to the nurse that treated me, the worst situation is when you catch them in your eye, through cross contact, as it can have a long lasting damage and it is more difficult to treat.

2) No, I'm not that scared about STDs if you can treat them easily, but I am scared of other viral infections that you can't treat. That's why I never do AO. However, I wish that Sharks management would adopt a policy to monitor STDs in girls like Artemis' does. This would not eliminate the risk altogether, but it would reduce the chances of catching something. STDs monitoring like in Artemis would actually protect the health of girls more than the costumers', but it is better than not having anything in place.

3) Yes, I accept your point that the size of the club matters (just like size matters in other aspects of life! But that should be one more reason to implement some kind of STDs monitoring.

Cheers.

Andrea.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2266893]Interesting!

Two things:

A) she should first put the condom on your willi.

B) she should 100% have washed her hands (we can assume that 90% of the girls will do that- right? Right?[/QUOTE]A) Ideally yes, but not before she washed her hands thoroughly or with an antibacterial gel.

B) You should not assume that. One of the girls, I went with during my visit at the end of November, started touching her pussy as soon as she jumped on the bed. Although a very sexy thing to see, it wasn't hygienic at all.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2266889]
Reminds me of when I left Mainhatten waiting on Tram 11 smoking a cigarette talking to an Egyptian man. He told me an expression in Arabic that means ' live short and well not long and miserable' ; as he lit up a second smoke.

Everything good (including Big Mac's that I love) well mostly everything good can be bad for you. Not always. But much truth to the two schools of philosophies. To each their own.

Very true, my doctor who knows of my adventures tells me UTIs are often forgot about as a risk of this game. Cross contact is very easy to transmit.

I think all would agree BBBJ is less risky than AO but not risk free but I am not reading too much about DATY as a risk, infections in the mouth can occur very easily so guys who fuck with condoms only but get BBBJ are not only taking on some degree of risk but add in DATY to the mix the risk increases. Vaginal fluids in to a guy's mouth are not filtered for bacteria and viruses. Girl gets fingered or somehow gets a cut in her pussy and the next guy sticks his tongue up her kunt all the way in could prove to be risky. Or not. Just never know.

The above thoughts are not casting judgments on others behaviors just pointing things out, at the end of the day we all decide the risk level we want (as do the girls) but no matter how you slice the pie all of us are taking on a risk in this game. Several girls in the states have told me over the years and no way girls in Germany do not practice this either (in fact I know of one who does in one club and she is not the only one) shoves a tampon or The Today sponge up her pussy when on the rag (and bleeding.) I know one guy at one of these clubs who once told me when he pulled his dick out it was red, I told him this girl is known to work with a tampon in during her period. Just another ' trick' in their book.

And just to add to others sentiments, if you are that scared of STDs take up coin or stamp collecting but in the event you need to get in your car and merge on to a highway to go to the store make sure to double check your rear and side view mirrors, car accidents are quite common especially with merges at high speeds; often with deadly or life threatening injuries not treatable with pills or a shot. Just saying.
[/QUOTE]That's an excellent way to put it KK - "live short and well, not long and miserable".

Most FKK girls work thru their periods if they really need the money in that week, obviously using those sponges or tampons. Sharks front desk even sells those sponges to the girls in need. Few girls get more horny during periods, and work through that week even if they do not need the money. It's gross to me, but apparently there are customers who also like when the girls are in period. Again, to each his own.

Anything we (both girls and the guys) do in any of these FKKs or such establishments are riskier than any safe-sex options (one regularly tested partner or self-help as I mentioned earlier). For example, when we lick an FKK girl's nipples, how sure are we that she washed them well with disinfecting soap etc after the last session when that customer (maybe just came from an Ebola infested country, who knows) devoured those beautiful boobs for 20 minutes?

Live long and well.

I hope to live long enough to see the end of the never ending discussions on risk in having paid sex lol

Everybody has to make up their own minds. Just for fun I would argue that most clients indulging in AO are more likely to die from obesity related illnesses than from an std :D. Everybody worried about catching an std should lose weight if they want to improve their life survival chances :D (only kidding, but just wanted to show how different perspectives can frame the issue differently)

[QUOTE=Optimist;2266929]Live long and well.

I hope to live long enough to see the end of the never ending discussions on risk in having paid sex lol

Everybody has to make up their own minds. Just for fun I would argue that most clients indulging in AO are more likely to die from obesity related illnesses than from an std :D. Everybody worried about catching an std should lose weight if they want to improve their life survival chances :D (only kidding, but just wanted to show how different perspectives can frame the issue differently)[/QUOTE]You are so on point with your argument Optimist! We have a choice of dying out of obesity related illnesses or opening a McDonald to spread such illnesses, but we don't have the choice of taking the risk of enjoying AO sex which is statistically much less risky than bad food or road accidents. Such a balanced free world 😣.