American Politics

[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]....No Black man in America should be tried by an all-white jury. I am sorry but I think time and time again this has proved to be detrimental to the Black guy. If he is guilty then OK but you know as of late they have been finding a lot of guys innocent after 20 years behind bars. My mother has a childhood friend who did 20 then was rewarded $5million after he was cleared. That money can’t get 20 years of his life back. His jury was all-white.

I don’t care if I get flamed for this next statement but I think Non-Blacks are inclined to assume Blacks are guilty regardless of the evidence. In my travels witnessed too much racism against Blacks to trust any race of people other then the original.[/QUOTE]

+1

Though I don't believe Doc isn't one of those, he just doesn't believe its possible that OJ might have been there to kill Nicole and Goldman but didn't actually KILL them.

They never found the murder weapon. Furman killed the case by being a racist idiot and LAPD has a trigger happy reputation anyway those things didn't help.

If the jury helped OJ because he was Black, so WHAT! Because if that was the case it doesn't explain why Blacks are more likely to do jail time in there life than than Whites in America, its no accident.

There are plenty of good documentaries to watch about how UNFAIR our court system is to not only Blacks, but Latinos and Poor Whites.

OJ put himself in a position to see jail time. I agree, he should have LEFT America.

Roman Polanski so they say banged a 13 year old girl and fled to France, is now a French Citizen and can't be extradited back to the US, tisk, tisk...

He could have lived in Europe banged all the white women he wanted, he is the "Juice" after all and women are stupid they don't seem to mind if your criminal at all, which is highly interesting...

[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]....No Black man in America should be tried by an all-white jury. I am sorry but I think time and time again this has proved to be detrimental to the Black guy. If he is guilty then OK but you know as of late they have been finding a lot of guys innocent after 20 years behind bars. My mother has a childhood friend who did 20 then was rewarded $5million after he was cleared. That money can’t get 20 years of his life back. His jury was all-white.

I don’t care if I get flamed for this next statement but I think Non-Blacks are inclined to assume Blacks are guilty regardless of the evidence. In my travels witnessed too much racism against Blacks to trust any race of people other then the original.[/QUOTE]

Dude every thread I read you on,you are griping about race. It is my contention that you are a racist. That is all you talk about. The Thailand threads, etc. YOU SIR ARE THE RACIST!!! OJ should be in jail for life if not executed!!!!

[quote=daddy warbucks 1]....no black man in america should be tried by an all-white jury. i am sorry but i think time and time again this has proved to be detrimental to the black guy. if he is guilty then ok but you know as of late they have been finding a lot of guys innocent after 20 years behind bars. my mother has a childhood friend who did 20 then was rewarded $5million after he was cleared. that money can’t get 20 years of his life back. his jury was all-white.

i don’t care if i get flamed for this next statement but i think non-blacks are inclined to assume blacks are guilty regardless of the evidence. in my travels witnessed too much racism against blacks to trust any race of people other then the original.[/quote]


i taught history in the hood while i was waiting for my clearance for a le job and when my students ecoched sentiments to yours i always provided them with this panacea to their situation: do not do things which are punishable by incaraceration and do not associate with those that do.

simple as that.

justice in america is more about the quality of counsel than anything else...see oj verdict 1 for a prime example of this....

re false convictions:

a classmate of mine worked with barry sheck's innocence project and the fact is that most of the dudes later exonerated were career criminals who had been playing in the criminal justice system for too long...ultimately, they lost a bet. they may have very well indeed been innocent of the crimes that they were put away for but it's highly likely that they walked for many more infractions for which they were not caught or convicted of.

police don't really set up innocent people....although i do believe that a certain level of force is often employed in arrests that may not be required...but this is not really a race issue as the local le on the task force i worked on were a little rough with everyone.

one of the many reasons why i didn't last long was that i never really was enamored with the busting down doors and manhandling people aspect of the job...i thought the work would me much more cerebral.

of course, i think that before the 80s the situation was worse

about the only thing that a brotha will be surely shit outta luck is if he's in the deep south and messing with intoxicated **** white girls.

that's a no no.

[quote=looking for eden]dude every thread i read you on,you are griping about race. it is my contention that you are a racist. that is all you talk about. the thailand threads, etc. you sir are the racist!!! oj should be in jail for life if not executed!!!![/quote]

i will use the typical white guy defense when they are called a racist. "hey i have (black) white friends." :d the last few posts i dropped were (thailand) in the "thailand racism against foreigners thread." what the hell are we suppose to be discussing there baseball?

please enlighten me as the other threads i have made racist comments.

your personal attacks are groundless and baseless!

oj was found not guilty in his first trial end of story. in this one he was judged by a jury that was prejudice and were not his peers. the way you feel about oj is typical of your brethren. i think george bush punk ass should be in jail for life but hey who is keeping count?

thanks for stopping by.

[quote=daddy warbucks 1]i will use the typical white guy defense when they are called a racist. "hey i have (black) white friends." :d oj was found not guilty in his first trial end of story. in this one he was judged by a jury that was prejudice and were not his peers. the way you feel about oj is typical of your brethren. i think george bush punk ass should be in jail for life but hey who is keeping count?

thanks for stopping by.[/quote]and you think oj is innocent of his current crime, or are you just upset that poor oj is getting reamed by the man? and your feelings aren't racially-motivated? what if it was joe montana?

i'm hardly a staunch defender of the american legal system, as there have been enough examples of where it is unfair. for example marion jones served time for her doping crimes. do you think the same would happen to mark mcgwire? who knows.

nonetheless, why not be happy that oj is behind bars. he's a criminal... and now he's even a convicted one.

[quote=doctor_skank]and you think oj is innocent of his current crime, or are you just upset that poor oj is getting reamed by the man? and your feelings aren't racially-motivated? what if it was joe montana?

i'm hardly a staunch defender of the american legal system, as there have been enough examples of where it is unfair. for example marion jones served time for her doping crimes. do you think the same would happen to mark mcgwire? who knows.

nonetheless, why not be happy that oj is behind bars. he's a criminal... and now he's even a convicted one.[/quote]

i think he was guilty as all hell. it was not like he was robbing a bank or your local liquor store. he went to retrieve things that were his to begin with and as i said he put himself in this position. i said it once and i am saying it again i have an issue with the all-white jury.

it was still armed robbery and he should be in jail for it as anyone. i don't think no one should be judged by jury opposite of his race. if joe montana was on trial it should not be a bunch of daddy warbucks sitting on the bench. can i relate to joe? is he my peer? would i be inclined to really listen to the evidence presented? by joe being not what i am would i be inclined to not give a damn if he rots in prison?

[quote=daddy warbucks 1]can i relate to joe? is he my peer? would i be inclined to really listen to the evidence presented? by joe being not what i am would i be inclined to not give a damn if he rots in prison?[/quote]so you are promoting segregation?

black juries for black people and white juries for white?

what about latinos and asians?

and what is a peer? oj's peers are overpaid, egotistic, often above-the-law athletes. should oj be judged by the university of miami football team? i'm sure they'd find him innocent and then hit the strip clubs together, maybe [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] somebody along the way or beating up the bouncer.

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]OJ got off the first time because of his race and the fact that following the Rodney King fiasco, LA was afraid of a race riot upon his conviction. Glad to see him get his come-uppance.[/QUOTE]OJ got off the first time because he had the best lawyers in America and he was prosecuted by 2 bumbling attornies who went on to become rich due to their ineptitude.

Second, I think a lot of White Americans got pissed at Black Americans because they felt people were cheering because OJ got away with a crime. I did not feel this way and many of my Black friends didn't either. I don't mean to sound crude but I didn't know or really care about the 2 victims. I wanted to see if a rich Black man could manipulate the judicial system the same way rich White men have been able to. So the first OJ verdict actually told me to go put some money in the bank because that levels the playing field. So I can say without remorse that I was happy for the first OJ verdict because it exposed what actually runs our judicial system and now I know the rules. Any rich person can get away with a crime! But God help you if you are poor.

Now, coming from a Black man. Why didn't OJ just disappear? Why was his big fucking head always on the news? What the fuck was up with "If I did it"?

Just my 2 centavos.

[quote=doctor_skank]so you are promoting segregation?

black juries for black people and white juries for white?

what about latinos and asians?

and what is a peer? oj's peers are overpaid, egotistic, often above-the-law athletes. should oj be judged by the university of miami football team? i'm sure they'd find him innocent and then hit the strip clubs together, maybe [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] somebody along the way or beating up the bouncer.[/quote]

in situations like this i am all for segregation.

peers...people from racial/social backgrounds as is the defendant.
my my...is that what you think young college football players do in their spare time [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]? i am surprised at you.

oj is kind of a special case, he is famous and wealthy. the average minority who faces the justice system is not, and the us system is extremely harsh against minorities. many times its a case of someone being at the wrong place at the wrong time, there are countless cases of black men being arrested just for being in the vicinity of a major crime. my newly adopted country of australia, people say there is a racism problem down under but frankly speaking its a huge crock of shit because certain ethnic groups that live in australia would have some serious issues in america. the system in europe is a total joke as well, that is why you have areas in europe where the police are too cowardly to enter. i went to asia on a trip and saw a group of perverts closely follow an attractive girl in a shopping area in hong kong, if they pulled that in the us they would be all arrested for either assault or attempted [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] in less than a nyc minute.

[quote=daddy warbucks 1]in situations like this i am all for segregation.

peers...people from racial/social backgrounds as is the defendant.
my my...is that what you think young college football players do in their spare time [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]? i am surprised at you.[/quote]was metaphorically speaking... and used the once-notorious miami football team as an exaggerated example. i thought you'd be able to see through that. of course i don't throw all college athletes into one pot.

but there's another double standard for you... college athletes get away with almost anything on campus. at my university there were a couple of alleged [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124][CodeWord124][/url] (which most believed actually occured) that were brushed under the rug in the name of the school's reputation and the football and basketball program. i'm sure this is the case at a lot of schools.

and you think segregation would work? by that logic there should be double standards for crimes committed? that's a step backwards, or not?

bet you are all for affirmative action too.

"The Norwegian stunt reporter Pia Haraldsen would cover the U.S. election campaign for Norwegian TV 2 Entertainment, but the Americans remembered her previous performance as a reporter. Therefore, they said no to grant her journalist visa.

Pia made great success as "political editor" in the "Rikets Røst" on TV2, and managed to irritate the U.S. politician James Oddo so that he swored and threw Haraldsen and the film team on the door. The video quickly found the way to You Tube, where it has been seen by hundreds of thousands of people. According to VG, this is the reason why Haraldsen unable to cover the election campaign as a journalist.

Satire should be element why the U.S. security ministry has turned thumbs down Haraldsen application and has not granted her a journalist visa. Pia Haraldsen is a graduate in media and communications at Goldsmiths College in London, is a member of the Norwegian Journalists association and have international press cards."

Enclosed the video link and some photos.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1iNH7W9SC8[/url]

[QUOTE=Balluba]"The Norwegian stunt reporter Pia Haraldsen would cover the U.S. election campaign for Norwegian TV 2 Entertainment, but the Americans remembered her previous performance as a reporter. Therefore, they said no to grant her journalist visa.

Pia made great success as "political editor" in the "Rikets Røst" on TV2, and managed to irritate the U.S. politician James Oddo so that he swored and threw Haraldsen and the film team on the door. The video quickly found the way to You Tube, where it has been seen by hundreds of thousands of people. According to VG, this is the reason why Haraldsen unable to cover the election campaign as a journalist.

Satire should be element why the U.S. security ministry has turned thumbs down Haraldsen application and has not granted her a journalist visa. Pia Haraldsen is a graduate in media and communications at Goldsmiths College in London, is a member of the Norwegian Journalists association and have international press cards."

Enclosed the video link and some photos.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1iNH7W9SC8[/url][/QUOTE]That's funny. Guess Oddo was having a bad day. He looked annoyed as hell.

I'd have thrown her out to for asking such inane and unfunny questions, her wannabe Borat approach was 4th great drama class at best. Maybe would have asked for her phone number first though...

And now she's restricted from entering the US and can't fully execute her job as a international journalist, not that she seemed to have much talent anyway. Maybe she ought to try porn.

Rejected... now who laughs last, Pia?

An gross overreaction for sure on Oddo's part, but still give the guy some credit...

Oddo: 1
Pia: 0

One small step in the emanzipation of the male species in America.

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]That's funny. Guess Oddo was having a bad day. He looked annoyed as hell.

I'd have thrown her out to for asking such inane and unfunny questions, her wannabe Borat approach was 4th great drama class at best. Maybe would have asked for her phone number first though...

And now she's restricted from entering the US and can't fully execute her job as a international journalist, not that she seemed to have much talent anyway. Maybe she ought to try porn.

Rejected... now who laughs last, Pia?

An gross overreaction for sure on Oddo's part, but still give the guy some credit...

Oddo: 1
Pia: 0

One small step in the emanzipation of the male species in America.[/QUOTE]

She have "punked" numerous of politicians thought the world, and have met more important people than this "gentleman". Keep in mind she is just acting, and yes, Mr. Oddo made a complete fool out of himself.

I dont think she is so funny at all, but she is not a criminal. What is surprising is the fact that US authorities refused her to perform her work. It would hardly have happened in any other Western country.

It looks more and more like an Obama landslide, many of the battleground states that were favoring McCain are now strongly Obama. The attacks Palin has been chucking at Obama like Bill Ayers is absolutely lame. Honestly if an idiot like Palin gets into the White House, and you know she will take over for McFossil who is too old, America is screwed.

Pollster and RealPolitics which tracks all major polls show Obama at 330 to 341 safe or leaning electoral votes.