Ulanbaatar

I recommend Naratuul Hotel which is close to Ramada hotel.

This hotel has big room size. I lived in there for two times. First time I had three rooms: guest room with sofa and mini bar table, one big bed room and one small bed room. Second time I had two rooms: guest room with sofa and mini bar table and one big bed room. Price was about 100USD per day. I felt relax in this hotel room.

I will live in Narantuul Hotel next time in UB.

Just a quick write down of my experiences. In short, elections are coming end of June and a major clean up is going on, so you need to know where things are going on, need to be prepared for backup plans and best, you really need to have friends or phone numbers otherwise you may end up disappointed. Just my experiences anyone knows better, happy to hear suggestions.

UB Massage.

Went to the train station branch not to near to the train station, now 40. 000 T for lousy service, as non erotic as possible, why would anyone go there at all? I never will again. Ugly girls and mediocre massage, what is the point?

Lenin Square.

Has become really scary with limited supply of women but many many boys and felt really dangerous (and I am not easily scared). Not recommended after dark, rate still 40. 000 T, but beware hygiene and lock all your personal belongings.

Strings.

Still in operation as always in principal but frequent sudden closures when LE comes by and in general 1am seems to be the normal curfew now.

Marco Polo.

12. 000 T entrance fee but reasonable quality available on site but also for off site if you play a little clever. Recommended if you can negotiate, if not 100 US$ or more is the starting point.

Vegas was announced closed, maybe only for foreigners, Riversound also officially closed but for 10. 000 T entrance fee good music but no WL, Orange wanted 20. 000 for supposed similar set-up to Marco Polo but that was too much finical investment to try out.

In general be careful and modest, the climate close to elections is a bit weird, LE is everywhere and playing the high spending foreigner is not a good choice currently.

Hope a bit more activity here.

FA

Anyone planning to be in ULN in 3rd or 4th week of June. Luck has it, my current consulting gig in Asia is ending and switching to India (ugh). This may be my last and only opportunity to have a go at Mongolian girl (s). This forum is pretty dead when it comes to ULN and the latest report seem dire. The only option seems to be the UB massage place which is not really my thing. I prefer pick up bars and I see from current reports that such an option is a hit or miss with Cassablanca having only fugglies hanging out. Is the scene really that dead? Should I try to get out of the upcoming ULN business trip and skip ULN all together? That thought kinda makes me sad! Anyone care to chime in or throw me a bone or two hahahaahha.

Thanks in advance.

Anybody in mongolia right now? I'm a korean staying in UB until early August. Can't speak any mongolian.

Went to the new orange strip club last night around 11. Its located on Jamyan Str. (based on google maps) right behind the blue sky hotel. Its fairly easy to find since the sign has a picture of a whole bunch of benjamins. I'm guessing its somewhat safe since I did not get beaten up and its right behind blue sky hotel.

Once your in, some fatass will greet you and the only english he can say is 20, meaning 20, 000 T (although the sign right behind him says 10, 000 T). I went by myself so I guess you might pay less if you go with a mongolian. You'll then go up a flight of stairs and see the tiny bar to your right and only two dance poles. Place was fairly empty. It was just an open area with less than ten tables.

The waiter will bring you the drink menu and of course will say that 90% of the things on the menu are not available. I just ended up getting a heineken for 6, 000 T. Later when I pay, the waiter will claim that they don't have any change for me LOL.

Most of the girls can speak basic english and seemed to be decent looking, although its very dark and hard to see their faces. Two girls will dance at a time and most of them will NOT take their top off. If a girl does have her top off, you are allowed to touch. Half the girls will ask you,"dance?" and the other half will just come at you. After the dance they'll say thank you. I tried giving only 3, 000 T on the first dance to see the girl's reaction and realized that 5, 000 T is expected.

Total damage was about 50, 000 T. I've never been to marco polo's but I guess compared to the states its extremely cheap, but the fact that there are no private rooms is just weird. Maybe I'll go there again later to see if I can pick up one of the girls.

I am Chinese American and speak some Mandarin. I will be traveling / touring in North China this November for about one month. Have been to Maggies in Beijing several times but the Mongolian girls were not interested in me even when it was a slow night. I am not bad looking so I assume they thought I was local Chinese (and cheap?). I am resolved to get at least one Mongolian p*why before I die so I am contemplating visiting UB. Apart from mongering, I also want to play tourist and see the beautiful country. I have RTFFed this thread from July 15, 2006 to present (17 pages) , so I have done a lot of reading.

There's a lot of info about MPs, WGs from bars & clubs, and WGs at Lenin Park / Square. There's not one single report on outcalls. Someone mentioned looking at the ads in English-language newspapers. But has anyone tried it? What's the normal prices to pay? Satisfied with the service?

From the most recent reports, there were a lot of lonely visitors who struck out and returned to their hotels empty-handed. I hate to end up like that, especially after the financial investment to get there.

I appreciate any response here or via PM. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Funman13; 1326123]I am Chinese American and speak some Mandarin. I will be traveling / touring in North China this November for about one month. Have been to Maggies in Beijing several times but the Mongolian girls were not interested in me even when it was a slow night. I am not bad looking so I assume they thought I was local Chinese (and cheap?). I am resolved to get at least one Mongolian p*why before I die so I am contemplating visiting UB. Apart from mongering, I also want to play tourist and see the beautiful country. I have RTFFed this thread from July 15, 2006 to present (17 pages) , so I have done a lot of reading.

There's a lot of info about MPs, WGs from bars & clubs, and WGs at Lenin Park / Square. There's not one single report on outcalls. Someone mentioned looking at the ads in English-language newspapers. But has anyone tried it? What's the normal prices to pay? Satisfied with the service?

From the most recent reports, there were a lot of lonely visitors who struck out and returned to their hotels empty-handed. I hate to end up like that, especially after the financial investment to get there.

I appreciate any response here or via PM. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Funman,

Bad timing, Mongolia is past election and currently a risky place especially for Chinese (looking) people. No judging just stating. Better stay in Inner Mongolia and North-West China, same type of girls and much easier to score.

FA

Hey,

New to UB. Moved here a few weeks ago. Loving the scenery, with regards to the women, obviously!

Where is the best place for a massage now? Anyone got any advice?

Also, can anyone advise as to best way of picking up WGs discreetly. Can you make arrangements with massauese?

Cheers,

Matt

FernandoAlonso,

Thank you for your advice which I will follow. I have never thought of Inner Mongolia. Can I really get the same kind of women, I. E. Mongolians? I have to start reading that thread.

I will stay in touch with this Mongolian thread. Maybe next year will be better. Thanks again.

Funman13.

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso; 1327576]Funman,

Bad timing, Mongolia is past election and currently a risky place especially for Chinese (looking) people. No judging just stating. Better stay in Inner Mongolia and North-West China, same type of girls and much easier to score.

FA[/QUOTE]

Funman13,

Mongolia is the most risky place for Chinese looking person, even you speak English. Mongolian can know your nationality from your face and they will be very angry. Mongolian people hate Chinese for historical reason and recent political reason. It will not change soon.

If you have trusted Mongolian friend in UB, you can try Mongolian women. If not, it is very risky for your own search of Mongolian women.

Sen1234

[QUOTE=Funman13; 1328348]FernandoAlonso,

Thank you for your advice which I will follow. I have never thought of Inner Mongolia. Can I really get the same kind of women, I. E. Mongolians? I have to start reading that thread.

I will stay in touch with this Mongolian thread. Maybe next year will be better. Thanks again.

Funman13.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sen1234; 1332155]Funman13.

Mongolia is the most risky place for Chinese looking person, even you speak English. Mongolian can know your nationality from your face and they will be very angry. Mongolian people hate Chinese for historical reason and recent political reason. It will not change soon.

If you have trusted Mongolian friend in UB, you can try Mongolian women. If not, it is very risky for your own search of Mongolian women.

Sen1234[/QUOTE]Sen1234,

100% accurate and unlikely to change any time soon. Russia is back in favour now.

FA

Anybody knows a (reliable) site for apartment rentals in U. B?

Thanks

Had an hour to spare recently. Made the quick trip over to the UB massage near the train station. This one was by far the hardest to find (and I've been to 3 of the UB Massages now). Prior to this official trip, I had gone a few times around that area without luck. However, I ended up finding it this one time but unfortunately they were closed.

Anyway, went with the 1 hour Japanese hot massage at 35K. Girl's name was "Honda" or something. Typical Mongolia girl (fair complexion, nice small, medium boobs). Tried to do chit-chat, but she does not seem to speak English. Hence, it was a little difficult to communicate.

At the end of the massage (typical, nothing to write home about) , got the HJ. She was open to me feeling her up as well (outside clothes, but top and bottom). So that was nice.

Anyway, I am actually really interested whether anyone has had success getting one of these girl's numbers and have them join you in the hotel at the end of their shift. Is that even possible?

TR below, but what I want to know is whats the closest to a sure fire way of finding a girl to bring back to my hotel?

- UB Massage (basement of Springs hotel) : T35k for 1 hour massage, T20k for the 30 minute soapy wash. I did both. HJ ending, a bit mechanical, but overall a very nice experience. The girls were friendly, and I bet that if you were a regular you could meet them outside of the venue.

- Lenin square, in front of UB hotel: Went twice (9pm and midnight) , couldn't see anyone other than 40 year old homeless women in blankets. What time is the scene there?

- Casablanca: 10pm it was dead. 2 white guys at the bar only.

- Marco Polo: T20k entry, T5k dances. Some very nice women there, was about to try to take one home and one of the strippers fell off the pole onto her head, which upset all the girls and basically killed the mood. She was able to walk away, so I don't think there's any long term damage.

Shocked to see that I'm becoming the expert here! Adding what else I've learned:

- Lenin Square: the statue was sold in 2010, as UB moves further away from its communist roots. Maybe the WGs left along with it? After 4 visits there, I've only ever seen one woman who might possibly have been a pro. She was 45 and thick set, so unless someone else has better info, I'd say steer clear of this. Have heard that there are sometimes some women around here. In the bus stop etc. Personally found it hard, as its generally light outside and there are families, couples and normal people milling around, so its hard to tell.

- Casablanca bar: Went again, and this time there was a hint of action. Reasonably attractive girl sat on her own at a table. The scene is the opposite of Thailand etc, where the girls stand around, maybe extreme eye contact with you and are fairly aggressive. Here, the girl (only one in the bar who was a pro) sat at a table drinking a glass of wine, looking like she was waiting for her date. She offered near zero eye contact, I had to approach her, sit down and initiate. After a few minutes she said she was headed to Strings, I went with. After hours! Of flirting, and her drinking whiskey, she agreed to come back to my hotel, but in the end, I was too tired after we together finished a 750ml bottle of scotch. It felt like pulling a girl back home.

- UB Massage: Asked the shower girl to come meet me in my room. That didn't work, she was polite, but said it wasn't possible.

- Marco Polo: Asked one of the girls there about outcall, but they said they didn't provide such a service. Seems to be the way to do it would be to befriend a girl and meet her after her shift finishes at 2am. Possible, but again, on a par with pulling back home.

- Strings: I was there until 1. 30am on a weekend. It doesn't get busy until 12. There may be some WGs there, but its very hard to tell. Looked mainly like groups of friends out for a good time.

- Other freelancers: Chinngis Khan Hotel, Corporate Hotel (next to Casablanca) are both supposed to have FLs in the lobby or bar at times. There's also supposed to be a couple of girls hanging out in Marco Polo's near the bar who are in plain clothes and available. There's also supposed to be some girls hanging around slightly west of Marco Polo. 20m west in a bus shelter I believe. Haven't personally verified any of these.

- Massage: Got a tip and tried to call one of the massage numbers in the back of the Mongol Messenger (english newspaper). There are 3 numbers. 1 larger ad in a box (I did not call this one, but its 24/7, so might be worth trying) and 2 smaller ads. I called both smaller ads. The first one hung up on me when I asked specifically for Extras / Sex. The second did not hang up when I asked for Extras.

$30 for an hour in theory, but the story of how this went down epitomizes the scene here: Girl shows up 90 minutes later, on time. She claimed to be 25, but she looked more like early 30s. Fairly attractive, with a few extra pounds. Not fat, not chubby, just not skinny. 5'4" 120lbs ish. 6/10 for looks. Very nice, spoke good english. But some combination of shyness or lack of experience turned the whole event into what felt like more of a date.

30+ minutes of chit chat before she even mentions massage. I say yes, and lie down on the bed. She gives a professional mediocre massage. 4/10 for sports therapy. 7/10 for relaxing massage. No happy ending, no touching there. Then its another hour! Of chit chat, before she asks for a drink (beer). She basically guzzles it to calm her nerves, and starts on the second. Eventually, I realize nothing will happen unless I do it, so just lean in and kiss her and pull her on the bed. Lots of foreplay and sex ensues. She stays from 8pm until 10am the next morning and we go 3 times.

Its pure GFE with a girl who's a bit shy and will do what she's told, but otherwise a bit out of her depth. She blows me when I ask, but not before, for example. Its really like bringing a girl home for the first time. Fun, a lot of fun, if thats what you are looking for, but the most work I've ever had to put into a pro. Again, the opposite of Brazil / Thailand, where the girls know exactly how to play the game.

She doesn't discuss money at all, and on the way out the door I press a bundle of notes into her hand, she looks embarrassed, and doesn't count them. I paid her T120k, as on the phone I asked how much more for extras, and through her embarrassment she said $50USD, so $80 USD in total.

Net: Mongolia is not a place to plan a mongering trip, better to go to Brazil, Thailand, Phils etc. There you can bang 3 girls a day, and do all the crazy things on your bucket list easily. However, if you are here, and want to put the time in, it's possible to find nice girls, who have very little experience, but who enjoy sex, appreciate the cash and will give you a tender GFE.