Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2526288]Dying with or dying from Covid19 is a big difference, and generally isn't mentioned in the media, just like any normal flu is suddenly labelled "Covid19."[/QUOTE]Whatever cause of death you want to label it, the net effect of all of this is that ICU's are over capacity despite hospitals doubling and tripling their allotment of ICU beds, doctors, and nurses. Cities aren't using sporting venues to treat the less sick just because healthcare workers wanted a change of scenery. I personally will be seeing patients in a unit constructed from shipping containers tonight. Not sure why we'd go through the trouble of constructing this multi-mullion dollar temporary facility just to keep up the covid charade.

Really man, just step way from this topic. I think deep down you know better and I'll leave this as an appeal to your morality.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2526410]Polio, smallpox, tetanos, rabid? Doesn't work?.[/QUOTE]You know how many times that statement has been ignored by the guys here rooting against the vaccine?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2526431]More than 4000 deaths in US on last day, wish for news mistake. Biden has really hard job after crazy, when he seems so much more clever for words: unity, peace and supporting US employment and companies, then even as foreigner, but can only agree with him. Wish him to make US much better again.

Everybody in Western Europe except few bullshting specialists here, tell UK is the most risky country for virus with their mutant spreading now in Europe and no revenge about brexit, Europeans would just prefer they don't send us their more killer mutant, when they don't even put mask in streets, easing spreading. I hate mask, difficult to breathe when you walk stairs, but I put when I m in streets or stores, just for respect for others, even I don't worry much about covid and mutant, keeping on kissing girls from abroad or France.[/QUOTE]Biden was vice President for 8 years, he and Obama made Trump possible, both have a big responsibility. He is not a new comer and nothing will really change in the US.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2526446]What mean 1,8 million German cured? Vaccined? Then protected for how long? Really protected versus mutants? I think Germany is clever to try to protect their citizens health. Much more important than brothels.[/QUOTE]Could I say Siri? I think so. I took your questions from the general info thread to the chat, not to mess up the other thread.

Sorry for my amateur English, I am trying.

"Cured" in the meaning of recovered. I guess every country has these statistics. Number of infections, number of recovered and number of "active" infections. So far Germany has overall 2.178.828 million corona "cases" and 1.883.700 million of them are counted as recovered. So do the math, Germany has about 240.800 "active cases". These "active" people are in quarantine, maybe.

Recovered people went through their infections. The majority of them are okay. Symptomless sick people are symptomless healthy now. Really. But of course, some have long-term problems. The virus is hitting hard, mainly the old people.

From what I know, you can get the infection more than once. But who knows anything these days.

So far Germany has vaccinated 2. 1 million people. But I don't know if they had already the second needle, the "booster". I think some of them still waiting for the second shot.

The vaccine helps against the mutants, of course, LOL, otherwise nobody would want it anymore. It is a ugly business. Creating so much fear is not healthy, especially for the old humans.

Of course government want to protect the health. But even some of the elderly are not okay with the way government is doing. You know, shutdown shit could make sick too. No team sports for the youth, no social contact's and and and. What comes after shutdown? Next shutdown.

What is concerning me the most, that so many people are choosing the "healthy prison" over the "sick freedom". If you believe propaganda.

For example, weapon industry is still open, because they are making Germany rich. But the puffs are dangerous? This is wrong.

Fuck the government!

(I posted "fake news" about the number of people who are right now in hospital. But the adults know how to handle information. Excuse).

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2526492]Biden was vice President for 8 years, he and Obama made Trump possible, both have a big responsibility. He is not a new comer and nothing will really change in the US.[/QUOTE]I think they can't be much worst than Trump made them with 430.000 covid deaths, exploding unemployment, even threatening democracy, supporting racism. At least, Biden seems a bit more clever and safe for his words. I wish them better days when they had 2 pandemics: virus and crazy.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2526471]Seriously. Just try to not contribute to the problem. All of you.[/QUOTE]Ah yes, now we're getting testy when we run out of links and arguments? If we don't follow Dictator Mursenary's orders, we all "contribute to the problem. All of you. " The big problem is people who switch off rational thinking, allow the media induced panic to permanently settle in, and who blindly follow their fascist government orders!

So let's have more lockdowns, because they work so well? Here is the WHO and their view that lockdowns do not work, and should only be used as a short term measure to buy a little bit of time for overloaded hospitals: [URL]https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/herd-immunity-lockdowns-and-covid-19[/URL].

Quotes: "However, these measures can have a profound negative impact on individuals, communities, and societies by bringing social and economic life to a near stop. " and "Governments must make the most of the extra time granted by 'lockdown' measures by doing all they can to build their capacities to detect, isolate, test and care for all cases; trace and quarantine all contacts; engage, empower and enable populations to drive the societal response and more."

By the way, you never post many links anyway, to back up your misinformation and lies. How come you almost never back up your claims? Is it just a huge gaslighting campaign sponsored by your Big Pharma buddies?

So with the WHO's recommendation to NOT have lockdowns in mind, we now go back to March 2020 and the "2 weeks lockdown to flatten the curve" lie, supposedly to reduce the stress on hospitals.

Here is a video of German and Austrian hospitals in 2017 and 2018: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwSrEXYQfJE[/URL] Here is a video in English about the USA: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKM_nV2luUI[/URL].

Notice a pattern here?

Why haven't governments increased hospital capacity in 2020? Why haven't they looked into successful treatments like Hydroxychloroquin or Ivermectin? Especially ivermectin seems to be very very successful in treating Covid19 patients (and would therefore be a huge help for overloaded hospitals! Yet nobody wants to talk about it.

Why? Is it incompetence from governments, or are they deliberately creating a crisis for their Great Reset? I'll leave it up to ISG readers to make up their own mind, but I expect the usual gaslighting posts from the usual suspects, without any proof.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2526513]Could I say Siri? I think so. I took your questions from the general info thread to the chat, not to mess up the other thread.

Sorry for my amateur English, I am trying.

"Cured" in the meaning of recovered. I guess every country has these statistics. Number of infections, number of recovered and number of "active" infections. So far Germany has overall 2.178.828 million corona "cases" and 1.883.700 million of them are counted as recovered. So do the math, Germany has about 240.800 "active cases". These "active" people are in quarantine, maybe.

Recovered people went through their infections. The majority of them are okay. Symptomless sick people are symptomless healthy now. Really. But of course, some have long-term problems. The virus is hitting hard, mainly the old people..[/QUOTE]I wish Germany to be better than on beginning of this year, even being under strict confine since 1 month, but still in big trouble. More important in my opinions, than brothels. We just have to control to wait. No ski is much bigger frustration for me. Didn't you see shameful riots with hooligans breaking, burning, in NL, when government try to get less deaths, really crazy when I m sure they would cry if old mother died from virus.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2526492]Biden was vice President for 8 years, he and Obama made Trump possible, both have a big responsibility. He is not a new comer and nothing will really change in the US.[/QUOTE]What do you mean nothing will change. Hedge funds and billionaires are playing games in the stock market and the everyday people will lose their life savings chasing the dream. Keystone XL pipeline is stopped so close to 50000 jobs are lost and subsidies to oil companies are stopped so gas prices start to climb, which will consume the increase in minimum wage. Biden has set in motion to stop deportations of people who illegally enter the country and to withdraw patrols along the borders, on land, in the air and at sea.

I don't mind immigrants. Let them fill out papers and enter legally like I did in Europe. If the French like Biden so much they should give him control of their country and feel the pain. Wait, then their wealth would all start Jumping the border to Belgium again.

[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2526513]Could I say Siri? I think so. I took your questions from the general info thread to the chat, not to mess up the other thread.

Sorry for my amateur English, I am trying.

"Cured" in the meaning of recovered. I guess every country has these statistics. Number of infections, number of recovered and number of "active" infections. So far Germany has overall 2.178.828 million corona "cases" and 1.883.700 million of them are counted as recovered. So do the math, Germany has about 240.800 "active cases". These "active" people are in quarantine, maybe.

Recovered people went through their infections. The majority of them are okay. Symptomless sick people are symptomless healthy now. Really. But of course, some have long-term problems. The virus is hitting hard, mainly the old people.

From what I know, you can get the infection more than once. But who knows anything these days.

So far Germany has vaccinated 2. 1 million people. But I don't know if they had already the second needle, the "booster". I think some of them still waiting for the second shot.

The vaccine helps against the mutants, of course, LOL, otherwise nobody would want it anymore. It is a ugly business. Creating so much fear is not healthy, especially for the old humans.

Of course government want to protect the health. But even some of the elderly are not okay with the way government is doing. You know, shutdown shit could make sick too. No team sports for the youth, no social contact's and and and. What comes after shutdown? Next shutdown.

What is concerning me the most, that so many people are choosing the "healthy prison" over the "sick freedom". If you believe propaganda.

For example, weapon industry is still open, because they are making Germany rich. But the puffs are dangerous? This is wrong.

Fuck the government!

(I posted "fake news" about the number of people who are right now in hospital. But the adults know how to handle information. Excuse).[/QUOTE]The irony is that in China life goes on as if nothing has happened. Crowded streets, clubs, gyms, trains, parties, etc. with no one wearing masks. What a pity they cracked down on prostitution there!

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2526472]Such a request amounts to a waste of breath or typing energy, whichever the case may be. He's going to get in the way at every opportunity while relishing each moment. There's a subset, typically dumb white Americans and Euros full of misguided passion and fringe media sources, that we are going to have to live with. The line gets drawn when they start to get violent. And private media platforms can of course censor them as they wish.[/QUOTE]Yep, you're right. But you still give people a shot and let them make their own decisions. Didn't hurt me any to appeal to his better angels and give him the opportunity to have a second of reason and logical clarity. We.

On the flip, being a incessant inbox bombing crybaby is also pretty distasteful.

He and Shoe are eerily like minded countrymen.

Ah, the wheel. The horse & buggy days. Industrial Revolution, anti Semite Henry Ford. Mister Boeing. Changes. "General Motors sets goal of going largely electric by 2035" Getting the message Neanderthals?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2526478]We need to be more culturally sensitive. Leprechaun math is different. Something about conversion rates for the schillings in the pot of gold.[/QUOTE]How interesting you brought up the Schilling! I like this! Monetary history! Do you know more about the relation / link between the money supply and politics / wars / disasters too? Or say a certain virus made in Wuhan?

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2526453]This isn't a "fact" but a ridiculous lie. I'd be laughing my ass off if there weren't a bunch of people out there dumb enough to believe you.

Yawn. This isn't the information age, it's the misinformation, click bait age where lies are sold to dumb people. Just ask Alex Jones. It's all very profitable.[/QUOTE]The misinformation age has been with us for thousands of years. But with the internet, misinformation has been democratized.

You should read two books:

1. The Media is the Message. It shows how it is the actual medium (as in speach, tv, radio, internet) that drives the conversation paradigm.

2. The Prince. How state rulers have always relied on misinformation.

My two most well read professors at university have both been very clear about this. 99% of all we hear and read about in msm in misinformation.

We can go even further and say that everything we hear is misinformation. The entire reality we live in is subjective. And as soon as you hear something from another point of view, it is misinformation the very second you try to disect it.

[QUOTE=Ararat;2526405]No, it was according to German newspapers that quoted unnamed officials. This report has been denied by the German authorities. The explanation is apparently that 8% was the number of participants in the test of the relevant age range.

We'll soon find out if there was any truth to it.[/QUOTE]1 word: Spindoctors!

And you believe it because?

How do you pick out one article you choose to believe, and not the former?

I don't think you actually grasp the reality of blue feed / red feed.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2526410]Polio, smallpox, tetanos, rabid? Doesn't work?[/QUOTE]1. Are these diseases mutating at a high pace over time?

2. Never underestimate the result of other societal factors such as smaller households and improved cleanliness. When did the washing machine arrive? How was the case numbers year by year of those diseases prior to the vaccines arriving? Questions never asked in the grand scheme of cherry picked news agenda.