Morocco

For the reasons you mentioned, why would anyone bother with going to Morocco. You can't bring a girl to an Airbnb and there's no websites to find WGs so the only options are hammams and nightclubs. Not great.

[QUOTE=Hhann;3066812]Great insights and agree with you on all aspects.

Morocco is not an open & inviting mongering-touristy place like Dubai.

Apart from Spa / Hammams, those who like off the beaten path for mongering and pickup thrills, in my view it is the best place.

Be prepared for failures. It is normal. Basic conversational French is a must with local professional working women.

If you are targeting non-WGs, it does carry a certain amount of risk especially if the girl is local and in a customary marriage.

So the moment you sense any danger play it safe, stop listening to your dick just withdraw yourself the very next moment.

Re: Airbnb, it is a never ending problem..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YoungVeteran;3066973]For the reasons you mentioned, why would anyone bother with going to Morocco. You can't bring a girl to an Airbnb and there's no websites to find WGs so the only options are hammams and nightclubs. Not great.[/QUOTE]Yea. I use to entertain Morocco but I am good on Morocco. Too much headache it seems. The biggest "no thanks" for me is the no bringing woman back to your Airbnb. No thanks. I'm going to Senegal and Senegal does not have this fuckery.

[QUOTE=BigZozoIntl;3066993]Yea. I use to entertain Morocco but I am good on Morocco. Too much headache it seems. The biggest "no thanks" for me is the no bringing woman back to your Airbnb. No thanks. I'm going to Senegal and Senegal does not have this fuckery.[/QUOTE]It can be very problematic. I lived there 6 months back in 2010. Did some girls at hotels in Casablanca and would. Pay the hotel vig bribe of 200 Dh.

Got so drunk 1st time a girl asked for 300 Dh post the fee hours and I said no but pulled out US $200.

Next time I saw her she has a new hairdo and dress and make-up.

I gave her 2 months salary there.

I then had a 1 br Penthouse on Moulay Idriss near Regie Tabacs off Rue 2 Mars.

I took 11 different WL there and would just give my doorman some money and cigarettes daily but 1 girl I wrote about one this forum would scream loudly while getting bonked and a neighbour called police.

By the way, I forget to mention, almost all the girls I saw in those clubs and lounges are working girl. No shortage of supply of the girls, only issue is having right place to bring them.

They always ask higher than what they will actually agree on. So, one should always negotiate. Full night rate is usually between 1000 MAD to 1500 MAD. Most of the girl will agree with 1200 MAD. If you don't discuss beforehand then they will demand 200 MAD extra for taxi driver which I find unnecessary. So, it's better to discuss that at the time of negotiation.

You can hire them for short time as well. I have less experience on this but for one hour, they usually agree somewhere between 600 MAD to 800 MAD.

You can check my previous two posts for more info.

[QUOTE=Titu04;3065808]Yeah, it does have a fair number of issues. Most of them come from unnecessary restrictions imposed by the administration and police. Everyone knows what's going on, but the laws are still there, which mostly ends up making life harder for tourists.

Some of the places are more like cafes or lounges. For example, Mabrouk ([URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/UuyqnhSozkUyhDeW8[/URL]) is more of a lounge atmosphere food, music, and a relaxed environment where you can just enjoy the evening. Others are clubs, but not really like Western-style clubs where everyone is standing and dancing. They feel more like pubs, just with louder music and a livelier vibe..[/QUOTE]

Agree, neighborhood vigilantes & watchdogs are common. That's why most of the AirBnB host does not allow bringing girl.

I referred a few here via DM and thanks to my generosity.

That's a good lesson I should learn from you. I don't want to lose my places as well. LOL.

[QUOTE=Hhann;3066812]Great insights and agree with you on all aspects.

Morocco is not an open & inviting mongering-touristy place like Dubai.

Apart from Spa / Hammams, those who like off the beaten path for mongering and pickup thrills, in my view it is the best place.

Be prepared for failures. It is normal. Basic conversational French is a must with local professional working women..[/QUOTE]

From my experience a lot of Airbnb are owned by French / foreigners and they do not mind tourist enjoying their personal freedom bringing guests.

However, the local tradition has a separate 'force' and they act totally against tourists enjoying their own freedom at will.

Even govt of Morocco realizes this and hence they relaxed laws which now allows sharing of hotel rooms for unmarried non-Moroccan foreign couples.

Technically, this means the law now allows to take a girl to your room as long as the girl has a valid ID to show at the reception.

But not many hotels still do not allow due to the stigma and cultural boundaries. Hopefully time will change and things will get better.

[QUOTE=Titu04;3067728]Agree, neighborhood vigilantes & watchdogs are common. That's why most of the AirBnB host does not allow bringing girl.

I referred a few here via DM and thanks to my generosity.

That's a good lesson I should learn from you. I don't want to lose my places as well. LOL.[/QUOTE]

Agree, the chances of failure are more when it comes to arranging a girl, pickup and of course finding a place. Avoid asking taxi drivers they are not of help as most of them just like to do a false promise and take additional money as tip. Also the setback and getting scammed are very high and there are very clever scammers including girls who touts tourists at hammams / spa's by taking advance money, especially around madina areas.

My advice is never give money to anyone else other than the girl. Even if a local pimp promises to arrange the girl, agree with him that you will give money directly to the girl only after seeing the girl and within a safe area. I have been visiting Morocco since 2018 and got scammed once in a hamman at Marrakech during my second trip. The girl gave a happy ending and took additional cash promising a next day meet up at a cafe and never turned up. So learnt the lesson hard way.

I think I can confidently say once you get the hang of how things work in Morocco it is easy to spot such criminal minds and avoid. From my experience as there are still hidden opportunities especially for people who enjoy intimacy, nature seeking freedom and thrill of adventures and some of them may not have a price tag attached, which is indeed a bonus!

[QUOTE=YoungVeteran;3066973]For the reasons you mentioned, why would anyone bother with going to Morocco. You can't bring a girl to an Airbnb and there's no websites to find WGs so the only options are hammams and nightclubs. Not great.[/QUOTE]

I completely agree — that's very well said.

[QUOTE=Hhann;3068088]From my experience a lot of Airbnb are owned by French / foreigners and they do not mind tourist enjoying their personal freedom bringing guests.

However, the local tradition has a separate 'force' and they act totally against tourists enjoying their own freedom at will.

Even govt of Morocco realizes this and hence they relaxed laws which now allows sharing of hotel rooms for unmarried non-Moroccan foreign couples.

Technically, this means the law now allows to take a girl to your room as long as the girl has a valid ID to show at the reception.

But not many hotels still do not allow due to the stigma and cultural boundaries. Hopefully time will change and things will get better.[/QUOTE]