Angeles City

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2955826]To fuck a starfish ST and pay 8000 Peso. For sure there is no taker.[/QUOTE]I think in truth there are several reasons why the town is very very quiet and girls are still in the bar near closing time and have not been bar fined.

1, there are very few girls that are pretty young and slim working on angeles bars.

2,The very few girls that have ok looks and are fairly young can earn more money as drinks only girls from high salaries, large drinks commissions, tips and making it rain money all without fucking anyone.

3, Of course some of the younger, cuter girls are cherry girls (virgins) and as such will not fuck for a living.

4,Of the few ok looking girls most are asian only girls as in as much they will only give attention, drink, fuck with asians, this is plain to see in many bars, group of westerners walk into a bar and bar girls mainly ignore such, group of asians walk info any bar and the girls go crazy with excitement, smiling, screaming and generally very eager to be chosen for drinks.

5, The biggest kicker is that even if the princess bar girl accepts a bar fine and promises the world in the bar and that she will fuck, suck and stay long time many times once the whole bar fine has been paid in full at the bar (bar and girls share up front) then there is very little incentive for the said bar girl to perform any of the promised service back at the room, try to complain to the bar that the girl would not fuck, suck or stay the agreed time will be met by the standard answer from the bar of sir, prostitution is highly illegal in the phills as such all the punter paid very large sums of money for was in fact just for the bar to release said girl on early work release (ewr) and at no time is sex a part of that payment.

Its not rocket science, why should guys travel half way around the world at great expense, pay high ewr prices, extortunate lady drinks prices for very mediocre girls that can be very choosy who they give attention and some pussy too.

As many have said over multiple trip reports many won't be back to angeles, preferring to visit other asian destinations that have thousands more asian girls that are far slimmer, younger and better looking with no prejudice who they fuck with and who accept payment of such once the deed has been done and the customer satisfied at very similar or cheaper prices than angeles.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2955877]Well, we're paying here 1500-5000 LT, and I never had a starfish, maybe you're not doing something right.[/QUOTE]It is getting harder to get street girls for ST for 1500 p. Near impossible to get a pretty bar girl for ST for 1500 p. Either you are hunting in another pond (not AC) or your girls are old or fat or something. 1500 p for LT is very hard to believe.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2955877]Well, we're paying here 1500-5000 LT, and I never had a starfish, maybe you're not doing something right.[/QUOTE]You are talking about FL's.

But the pics showing bargirls: BF plus LD plus tips. Get real.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2956039]

Its not rocket science, why should guys travel half way around the world at great expense, pay high ewr prices, extortunate lady drinks prices for very mediocre girls that can be very choosy who they give attention and some pussy too.

As many have said over multiple trip reports many won't be back to angeles, preferring to visit other asian destinations that have thousands more asian girls that are far slimmer, younger and better looking with no prejudice who they fuck with and who accept payment of such once the deed has been done and the customer satisfied at very similar or cheaper prices than angeles.[/QUOTE]Napa, you make some really good points.

As I've mentioned previously, I've only visited AC when my work has taken me to the vicinity.

And it's not my scene.

Back in the day, maybe.

Yes, it's obvious the Koreans have taken over and the place is a shithole.

The prices are sky high and if you're an international traveler, it's probably a better option to pay the same at home.

Or _ discover there are many other places in the Phils where you can hook up with some beautiful Filipinas and form genuine 'friendships' with.

Just because AC may have seen its best times, the Phils is a blast with some absolutely gorgeous women.

Just my opinion _ Phil.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2956054]It is getting harder to get street girls for ST for 1500 p. Near impossible to get a pretty bar girl for ST for 1500 p. Either you are hunting in another pond (not AC) or your girls are old or fat or something. 1500 p for LT is very hard to believe.[/QUOTE]I'm in the Philippines now and prices are around 3 k pesos (500).

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2956080]You are talking about FL's.

But the pics showing bargirls: BF plus LD plus tips. Get real.[/QUOTE]2 postings about 2 different things, the one with the pics was about the lack of customers, the other one was about prices and performance in general, has nothing to do with the pics.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2956054]It is getting harder to get street girls for ST for 1500 p. Near impossible to get a pretty bar girl for ST for 1500 p. Either you are hunting in another pond (not AC) or your girls are old or fat or something. 1500 p for LT is very hard to believe.[/QUOTE]I saw many people with fat girls in tow, I guess that's what they like, and probably this is why the bar owners hire the fat ones, when the majority of girls in the Philippines are slim.

As for me, I assure you that my type is Adriana Lima and Alessandra Ambrosio like they looked 20 years ago. Cannot find that in the PH, but I'm trying my best.

Now about the prices: I was talkin about what you may be able to find out there if you take your time, yes 1500 is the starting price for freelancers and is rarely that low but it exists, sometimes you can find real gems, out on the street or on the app for the first time, in need for tuition money, or rent or who knows what, just don't rush and choose wisely. Also you may find a cute massage girl that just started working, and convince her to do it for the same low price, or you can get some action for that price or less in the BJ bars also, where most of the girls are old fat and ugly, but if you pass by few times a day like I do, when going or coming home, you will see that sometimes there may be a young cutie in there. BGs are avail for 2500 at perimeter bars, and for 4-5000 on walking street. Yes the 1500 ones are not LT, but if you treat them right, not like cattle, occasionally you may find one that doesn't want to leave. I hope this explains my posting.

I never heard of 8000 BF like Amadeuss posted, since Barnana reopened last year, and they gave up on that VIP bullshit pretty quick.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2956231]I saw many people with fat girls in tow, I guess that's what they like, and probably this is why the bar owners hire the fat ones, when the majority of girls in the Philippines are slim.

As for me, I assure you that my type is Adriana Lima and Alessandra Ambrosio like they looked 20 years ago. Cannot find that in the PH, but I'm trying my best.

Now about the prices: I was talkin about what you may be able to find out there if you take your time, yes 1500 is the starting price for freelancers and is rarely that low but it exists, sometimes you can find real gems, out on the street or on the app for the first time, in need for tuition money, or rent or who knows what, just don't rush and choose wisely. Also you may find a cute massage girl that just started working, and convince her to do it for the same low price, or you can get some action for that price or less in the BJ bars also, where most of the girls are old fat and ugly, but if you pass by few times a day like I do, when going or coming home, you will see that sometimes there may be a young cutie in there. BGs are avail for 2500 at perimeter bars, and for 4-5000 on walking street. Yes the 1500 ones are not LT, but if you treat them right, not like cattle, occasionally you may find one that doesn't want to leave. I hope this explains my posting.

I never heard of 8000 BF like Amadeuss posted, since Barnana reopened last year, and they gave up on that VIP bullshit pretty quick.[/QUOTE]I think in truth you will find that there is no cheap pussy left in angeles and generally one gets what one pays for.

Want to pay 1,500-2,000 peso for a street walker or an online girl then one will get a homeless crack head granny with one tooth in her head.

Want to pay 2,500-3,000 peso for a perimeter road bar girl then she will be fat, old and very plain in looks, on my few visits to perimeter road bars then I can only describe the very few women working there as rough, very rough.

On to walking street bars and girls then fully expect any younger, ok looking girls to be 6,000 peso short time (1 pop, as soon as one cums she's out the door) and as said previously the ok looking girls are not available to whitey.

Prostitutes in general will try to earn the biggest pay day with the least amount of effort, a girl that has the youth, body, looks does not lower her price for any one, why, because she has her choice of drink slutting or many high spending asians fighting to see the colour of her panties.

It is what it is comes to mind, want cheaper and one has to fuck older fatties, want young, slim and ok looking then one has to try to compete with the high spending asians and unfortunately there is only one winner there.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2956135]I'm in the Philippines now and prices are around 3 k pesos (500).[/QUOTE]You post info but only halfway. Need to be more precise. So is that ST or LT?

Kinda like this:

I am here too. Province: Abra. City Bangued. Bar girl price is 2500 p for 3 hours. 1st bar 9 girls (1 doable). 2nd bar 6 girls (busy drinking with customers so could not see any). 3rd bar 7 girls (no good). Mamasan brought freelancer (nobody is standing in the street) and wanted 2500 p. I gave 2000 p for ST and told her not to return. She was going to be trouble I could feel it. I showed her pix of what I wanted and she was going to keep bringing me girls. The first was fat wearing a hoody sweatshirt to try and hide her size. She brought another which I did not ask for. But the 2nd one was very doable and was very good in bed. Tried to meet her again through Facebook but no go. But I am not trying very hard. Here for waterfalls but the weather is not doing what it is supposed to when I want it to do it. The water level is shrinking much faster than I had expected compared to Cebu.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2956245]I think in truth you will find that there is no cheap pussy left in angeles and generally one gets what one pays for.

Want to pay 1,500-2,000 peso for a street walker or an online girl then one will get a homeless crack head granny with one tooth in her head.

Want to pay 2,500-3,000 peso for a perimeter road bar girl then she will be fat, old and very plain in looks, on my few visits to perimeter road bars then I can only describe the very few women working there as rough, very rough.

On to walking street bars and girls then fully expect any younger, ok looking girls to be 6,000 peso short time (1 pop, as soon as one cums she's out the door) and as said previously the ok looking girls are not available to whitey.

Prostitutes in general will try to earn the biggest pay day with the least amount of effort, a girl that has the youth, body, looks does not lower her price for any one, why, because she has her choice of drink slutting or many high spending asians fighting to see the colour of her panties.

It is what it is comes to mind, want cheaper and one has to fuck older fatties, want young, slim and ok looking then one has to try to compete with the high spending asians and unfortunately there is only one winner there.[/QUOTE]OK. If you say so. There is no need on my side to argue that.

Here is a pic that I posted before of a "fat" massage girl I picked up to the right of the entrance to the Hotel Royal Amsterdam about 10 days ago, fresh from the rice fields of Samar, I forgot exactly how much I gave her, but was very little, because at that particular moment I was saturated, and got her to my room just out of boredom. From the same exact spot, a few months ago I got another "fat" one that I actually used for a few repeats, and last time I met her, she brought another one with her even more "uglier" than herself, one that I never saw before, or after, and I was staying at HRA, and passing by them 20 times a day, I do have a pic somewhere, if I find it I'll post it.

You need to let go your confrontational attitude, open your eyes, and most importantly, if you're not a weekend warrior: take your time, do little chit chat with the street vendors, give a little to the beggars, feed the street kids once in a while and you may find out that not everything is as it looks at the first glance. The girls see you, and what your doing on the street, and exactly how we categorize them, they do the same about us, and they remember you and treat you accordingly, if they end up in your bed.

I don't need to prove nothing, but I suggest you eat your lunch at Night Moves few days in a row, and spend some time there, then go back to your post, and make some corrections, because there is more than what you see if you just pop your head in and out, there and elsewhere.

I found one 2023 thumbdrive, here are some more examples of the "fat starfishes" of AC. I do barfine sometimes, when I'm in a hurry, but most of the girls in the pics are freelancers and massage girls, some are repeats, some didn't want to pose naked.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2956245]Want to pay 1,500-2,000 peso for a street walker or an online girl then one will get a homeless crack head granny with one tooth in her head.[/QUOTE]Earlier this year I had 5 new street girls and 3 were very nice and I repeated several times with each. Paid 1500 - 1700 p ST. I have had over 250 street girls all over the Philippines in the past and never saw any girls over the age of 30 so please stop with all your granny crap talk. I had plans to go straight to Manila when I leave but would love to meet you in Angeles and show pictures of the 3 young pretty girls to you and you can show me these grannies you are so fond of and can not get out of your mind. Also, you can take me to some of your Korean bars and introduce me to all the Korean managers you know so well.

And, some more "fat starfishes" from past year. I do have lots of videos, but we only do photos here, therefore you can't really hear how "fake" they are.

I hope this brings some clarity in regards to my tastes and preferences. Lately I'm too lazy to take pics, my GF does, but she deleted whatever was on my phone and on her phone, she has jealousy outburst sometimes, even if she pics the girls up, or if she shows up home with one.

Like I said, put some effort in it, treat them well, don't be arrogant, open your eyes and don't rush, the outcome will be a pleasant experience.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2956259]You post info but only halfway. Need to be more precise. So is that ST or LT?

Kinda like this:

I am here too. Province: Abra. City Bangued. Bar girl price is 2500 p for 3 hours. 1st bar 9 girls (1 doable). 2nd bar 6 girls (busy drinking with customers so could not see any). 3rd bar 7 girls (no good). Mamasan brought freelancer (nobody is standing in the street) and wanted 2500 p. I gave 2000 p for ST and told her not to return. She was going to be trouble I could feel it. I showed her pix of what I wanted and she was going to keep bringing me girls. The first was fat wearing a hoody sweatshirt to try and hide her size. She brought another which I did not ask for. But the 2nd one was very doable and was very good in bed. Tried to meet her again through Facebook but no go. But I am not trying very hard. Here for waterfalls but the weather is not doing what it is supposed to when I want it to do it. The water level is shrinking much faster than I had expected compared to Cebu.[/QUOTE]Sorry that's ST but up 3 hours (usually around one hour).

And I'm in Makati, Metro Manila sourcing from PinaLove and then branching off to referrals from the PL girls. Been averaging 3 k for ST BBFS.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2956135]I'm in the Philippines now and prices are around 3 k pesos (500).[/QUOTE]This was supposed to say 3 k plus or minus 500.